Re: Minor help with X
Jens B. Jorgensen writes: Gith wrote: [snip] [ XF86Config file deleted ] Check to make sure that you have the right file. When I ran the auto-XF86 config program I ended up with /etc/X11/XF86Config and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config as separate files and I think that /etc/X11/XF86Config needed to be linked to the later. It confused the hello out of me while I was trying to get it working. Actually, it is the reverse. /etc/X11/XF86Config should be the original file with /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config as a link to it. Stuff stored in the /etc directory was meant to be altered and files under /usr weren't. It seems that the configuration program looks and writes to /etc/X11, but the servers look at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. Confusing, huh?! This is not correct... I'm running XFree86 here, non-debian... the file in /usr/lib/X11/X11/ XF86Config should be left alone. This one is only for referance. The debian package uses /etc/X11/XF86Config, and the XFree86 uses /etc/XF86Config file... you should make these a symbolic link to each other. Not the original, fall back default file... -- Ørn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A proposal to improve dselect
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hamish Pressing / and entering the same search just takes you
Hamish back to the first result again. This is counter-intuitive
Hamish for users of vi, less etc. Lynx uses n to repeat a
Hamish search but dselect doesn't use that either.
I thought the same thing. It should work like 'less' does. And have
{C-s} and {C-M-s} incremental searching like Emacsen do as well,
perhaps.
This begins to look like a religeous discussion ;-)
The real question is: What key does dselect use for repeat searches?
rather than What key should it be?.
I'm not an expert on dselect. I use dpkg almost exclusively to do my
incremental upgrades. I don't know if there is such a key, or not, but
it's clear it isn't documented very well if there is one. If there isn't
the bug is in the software instead of the docs (or including the docs).
Do we have an expert out there who can answer this question?
I am no expert either, but pushing / and entering the search string does
take you to a different package IF it exists. Otherwise, it just takes
you back to the one package that matches the string.
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Re: Netscape 3.01
Brian C. White wrote: Anyone have any comments on the stability of Netscape 3.01? In particular, I'm curious if it runs o.k. with the lastest libc, or do I need to continue loading Netscape with the older malloc etc. If you install it with the Debian package (in contrib), then it works just fine. Does anyone use CoolTalk from Netscape? Thanx -- Greg. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Too many packages!
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Kendrick Myatt wrote: Ok, so somehow I downloaded a lot of stuff I just don't want, like X, emacs, TeX, and a host of little things like the little calculator program... I fire up Dselect and go to remove, and then it comes back to the menu screen with Exit highlighted. Is this normal? Yes, because you didn't select what you want to remove. Use select first. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 3.01
Hi All,
Brian C. White wrote:
:
: Anyone have any comments on the stability of Netscape 3.01? In
: particular, I'm curious if it runs o.k. with the lastest libc, or do I
: need to continue loading Netscape with the older malloc etc.
:
:If you install it with the Debian package (in contrib), then it works
:just fine.
:
I thought the netscape package in contrib/ was just the installer.
The real Netscape binary still needed from somewhere? Is that right?
BTW, can someone tell me where and what version of the Netscape
for Linux/Debian should I down?
Thanks!
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Mail servers: share your experience with us
There are a number of mail server products like sendmail and smail. If you have experience in managing a mail server, I would like to ask you to give your opinion about it by answering some of these questions: - What product are you using? - Are you satisfied with it? Does it do what you expect from it? - How does it behave at higher loads? Performance losses? Brain deads? - If you know of other mail servers, I would also like to ask you: - Why did you choose what you have chosen? Please, make this mailing list even more valuable: share your info now. if this list gets overloaded, you can email to me and I will make a some kind of digest. TIA Leander Berwers Antwerp, Belgium -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Documentation Improvements (Was:Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE)
I agree... Now that I am in love with my Debian box, I can tell that a LOT of work must have gone into this, and the benefits are great. In my case, all that I needed to do was NOT put commas between my nameservers. If this had been in my install.html file, then I never would have had confusing problem one that sparked so much traffic back and forth. Now, I'm also wondering if I am the first person to run into this, but I don't think so. I think it would be easy to simply update the install.html to tell first-timers (like myself) to NOT put the commas. Heck, I'll change the page myself if anybody wants me to :) I know that documentation is always the last phase of any project, though. I expect that it will all work out in time, especially with all the input from users. Hopefully I'll even be able to contribute somehow, maybe a package or such. Regards, Kendrick At 11:19 PM 1/9/97 -0500, Daniel S. Barclay wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) My first Linux installation was Slackware 2.3. I did it with no access to [snip] thereby saving a great deal of time? Or, better yet, providing good documentation? All my problems with both Slackware and Debian were due to ^ AMEN! poor documentation. (Not to ignore all the hard work that has gone into the system, and all software and documentation we do have, but to emphasize something that is needed to take advantage of all that hard work.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Too many packages!
Thanks :) I appreciate everyone who answered this for me politely, although I was deserving of a RTFM, no doubt :) D'oh! Regards, Kendrick At 04:29 PM 1/10/97 -0500, David Gaudine wrote: Yes, because you didn't select what you want to remove. Use select first. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Custom kernel and boot problems still...
Hmmm... In my /etc/modules file I only have the following: #auto serial lp ne However, each time I boot it is still going and polling for all the nic cards and CD-ROMs, which effectively hoses my LAN. I tried modconf and according to it, nothing is loaded except the above. How hard is it to compile a kernel on Debian? I suppose I will have to find out :) TIA for any options or ideas! Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gravis Ultrasound PnP sound card, How to make work with debian ?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Stan Brown wrote: I asked around a little, and decided to buy a Gravis Ultrasound card for my debian machine. It turns out to be a PnP device. I don't think there's a Debian package for this yet, but there is a Linux Gravis Ultrasound Project with their own loadable driver as a replacement for the standard USS sound support. Check ftp://ftp.pf.jcu.cz/pub/perex/ultra/. It is still in development but already is an excellent driver. Included with the distribution is isapnptools, which will allow you to configure your Plug'n'Pray device. I'm going to try and package the Ultralib for Debian sometime soon - I'm just waiting for the next stable release. -- Steve McIntyre, CURS Secretary, Cambridge, UK. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also available from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, +-- Tongue-tied twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I... |Finger for PGP key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rescue Disk (was Password)
I'm sorry to hear you didn't get it to work on the first try. After receiving your message, I went ahead and manufactured the floppy on my (Debian) system. Here's how I did it. First, I noticed that superformat is already installed on my system. I think it's part of the default Debian installation. Second, I noticed that the /dev file for the 1743K floppy drive already exists on the system, but under a different name! In the readme for CatRescue, it is referred to as /dev/fd0H1743 but on my system it is /dev/fd0u1743. Third, I formatted a blank floppy using the command superformat -s21 -t83 /dev/fd0 Fourth, I ran the following command from the top of the CatRescue101E source tree: zcat image.gz | dd bs=1024 of=/dev/fd0u1743 Note the lowercase 'u' instead of the uppercase 'H' in the device file name. My advice: try the installation again -- this product is worth the effort :-) Thanks Nathan. I did everything you recommended. Still no go. I will assume now that my floppy drive cannot handle non standard format. I can rawrite to it and make new INSTALL BOOT and ROOT disks. The floppy diskette still gave me errors. And when I tried to boot from it anyway, just to see. I get: LILO CatRescue Error 0x04 LILO CatRescue Error 0x04 Until I reset the system via the RESET push button. I really appreciate your assistance. Chuma Agbodike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XPMs?
Hi there, I'd like to propose a little change for some of the existing packages (including fvwm95, dosemu, afterstep, fvwm-common, elvis, tgif, ctwm, wily, xsok, offix and some others). Is there really a *NEED* for each package to have its icons somewhere else (just to name a few of the directories where icons are stored /usr/X11R6/icons, /usr/images, /usr/include/pixmaps, /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps, /usr/X11R6/lib/ctwm/images). Also, if someone were willing, could someone maybe put all those icons together into a single package (stored in a single directory) that is required by the others? Benedikt signoff --- Benedikt Eric Heinen - Muehlemattstrasse 53 - CH3007 Bern - SWITZERLAND email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: ++41.79.3547891 RIOT, n. A popular entertainment given to the military by innocent bystanders. Ambrose Bierce ``The Devil's Dictionary'' -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PEX? XIE?
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:15:35 CST Carlo U. Segre ([EMAIL PROTECTED] it.edu) wrote: More importantly, some packages will not install unless the X11R6 is placed in the ld database. In particular xv has problems. Can you elaborate on that (I'm the xv maintainer) ? Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 3.01
Anyone have any comments on the stability of Netscape 3.01? In particular, I'm curious if it runs o.k. with the lastest libc, or do I need to continue loading Netscape with the older malloc etc. Paul Serice Seems fine here, although I have yet to get java or javascript enabled properly. At least it doesn't crash my browser anymore. ;-) Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: improvements
When Kendrick Myatt, et. al. wrote, I replied: Somebody wrote: communications non-networking communications documentation all documentation development as is currently games all games graphicsanything which creates, massages, transforms graphics misccatch all- math, electronics, hamradio, misc, etc. networking any networking functions- mail, news, utilities, etc. printinganything dealing with printing- TEX, lout, etc. system admin, base, shells, X windows, etc. IMHO X deserves a heading of its own. Perhaps TEX/Ghost*/(the package that handles MIME)/etc. need an area as they cut across printer/X. # I am really in favor of this as well, if it would be possible. The way it is laid out now is more than a little muddy. Right now I seem to be getting the emacs package, which I do not want. I was thinking the interface of the packages would be more like above. It is an *awful* lot to scroll through once you get the list of packages, IMHO, and it was easy for me to get lost. Mainly breaking it up a little more into categories would have let me build the system I want better. Like, I could go into a Utilities menu and choose editors and then choose vi and pico, but not emacs. Then go back and under networking go to mail and get pine, then back up and go to news There needs to be an automated way to find specific packages which are at leaf positions without knowing the path from the top. I often try to surmise what the purpose of a package whose name i've overheard by looking at the source modules names (or by grepping the source, itself). I might not have a clue as to what its top-level entry is. and get tin, but not INN since I just want to read from another server, not host news. I know, it's easy for me to suggest all this when someone else would have to do the work :) But, it's just some ideas from a first-time Debian I'd build a perl DB to do this and other keen things, but I lack experience with the internals of dselect and organisation of the current dependancy info (and probably some other things I haven't anticipated) and I don't know anything about dpkg (I think dpkg is the what dselect uses as prinitives???). user. Mainly I expected the interface to make things LESS confusing instead of MORE. I really like the way Slackware does their install ( that's about it) and I like being able to manipulate packages like I can in Solaris. I think that Debian is almost a best of both worlds system, but can still use some work, especially in the initial setup area. Example, why do I seem to be getting the British ispell dictonary!!! *sigh* Little things like that :) I still think it's way cool all in all :) I may re-do it from scratch just for the experience :) Regards, Kendrick I just wish my selections were stickier. And a mode that simply includes required packages, rather than getting user confirmation on a per-package basis would be appreciated. The What you need to dselect using ftp should be the minimum and included automatically (if you want a more minimalist package, strip it yourself. It all begins to sound like a more formal DB may be desirable. I remain, Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 and keymaps on debian 1.2
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christian Lynbech [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However now, even though it still boots up nicely with a danish keymap, X now provides a US layout. I could of course fix it with xmodmap but that shouldn't really be necessary I hope. I had this problem to. It is because XFree86 3.2 has a new way to select another keyboard layout (the XKEYBOARD extension). Here is the section of my (new) XF86Config: # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. #XkbDisable # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: #XkbModelpc102 # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: #XkbModelmicrosoft # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: #XkbLayout de # or: #XkbLayout de #XkbVariant nodeadkeys # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: #XkbOptions ctrl:swapcaps # These are the default XKB settings for XFree86 #XkbRulesxfree86 #XkbModelpc101 #XkbLayout us #XkbVariant #XkbOptions XkbKeymap xfree86(de) ^ --- I think the postinst of the x packages should keep the keyboard setting (altough I don't know how cause I don't remember how national keyboard selection was done in XFree86 3.1 ;-/ ) Bye ... Rainer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems.
Kevin Traas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. From the docs, I thought diald would establish the default route to the gateway automatically. Am I wrong in my assumption? If so, is what I did to fix the problem the right way to go about it? The right way is to add `defaultroute' to /etc/ppp/options. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PnP modem under Debian
Hi, does anyone have any experience getting a US Robotics Sportster 28.8-33.6 PnP modem to work with linux? Or any PnP modem for that matter. I've done all the common setup stuff for the modem. I found that if I want to use the modem under NT, I have to disable PnP in my bios. But if I do this for linux it changes nothing. -Jay Hi! I'm using a Sportster 14.4 PnP, and it works fine. I don't use the PnP features, even in W95, and I've set its jumpers to SEL, COM4, IRQ 3. Try this. Don't forget that in Linux, COM4 is /dev/ttyS3 (or /dev/cua3, which isn't good). Alexander Gieg =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= By: Alexander Gieg E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/3222 IRC: AlexG =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems.
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:31:43 PST Kevin Traas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 1. Why does diald drop my connection 30 seconds after establishing it, even though there are packets being sent across that would normally keep it alive. (Note - I can do anything across the connection once established, but no matter what (ftp, telnet, etc.) diald still kills the connection.) This is normal. Diald is an intelligent connection handler. It can enable different timeouts depending on the various kinds of packets which go through the link. I guess the ICMP ECHO packets are not maintaining the link. The default is 10minutes for standard TCP packets. Try a telnet, and the link should stay up for 10 minutes. If you want to modify the different timeouts, I'd suggest to read the manpage carefully (thing you're likely not to have done :-). 2. From the docs, I thought diald would establish the default route to the gateway automatically. Am I wrong in my assumption? If so, is what I did to fix the problem the right way to go about it? Do you have a `defaultroute' command in your diald.options file ? Are the addresses of both sides of the link correct in this file too (`local' and `remote') ? Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.mirror file request
i was wondering if someone could send me their mirror configuration file that they use to mirro the debian distribution tree so that i can work off of it. many thanks in advance. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just a Proposition....:-)))
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: installation...:-)) I think installing and upgrading under X by just using the mouse pointer should be possible...and BTW other so called OS Well, instead of X... something like SVGALib would be better... because its less to install than X. But.. like my machine i'm typing away on now, Well, I think there are too many systems where SVGAlib is not an option (or at least not a good one) either. My primary system, for example, has a fixed frequency monitor that works in X and text mode (because I can configure the slightly non-standard mode it requires with XF86Config and SVGATextMode), but not SVGAlib (unless its mode setup is as flexible as X nowadays). While that may be a rather rare example (and I do have a slightly broken VGA monitor as a `backup', for changing CMOS settings and such, though it's a pain to change monitors), I wouldn't be surprised to hear of people using Debian with MDA/Hercules/CGA/EGA monitors or even no monitor at all (network servers, configuration via a serial port or the network interface). And I think it's even more common (especially for network servers) not to have a mouse. I think something as important as package installation should be as platform-independent as possible. Or we could do it the way the Linux kernel does it and have multiple interfaces... But, frankly, I think a text-mode interface is good enough. Dselect is a bit confusing now (or I thought so when I first installed Debian 1.1 a few months ago, though now I've got used to it), but I think it can be improved while keeping it in text mode. I think graphics and pretty pictures wouldn't make it easier to use. As for possible improvements, maybe you could have a package installation system `even easier than dselect', i.e. where you could select more generic things (`no X' / `X with a minimal amount of apps' / `X with most apps' / `X with everything', and so on). It should probably also have an `override' option where you could select the invidual packages (I think the current dselect would be good enough for this, though maybe a help page for `most commonly used keys' or something would be a good thing to add). Something else that I thought of: Maybe we could have a stripped-down version of dselect for first-time installations (as opposed to upgrading), so that first-time users wouldn't be confused by the multitude of options related to upgrading (e.g. the difference between _ and - to deselect packages). This could also save boot disk space (if the stripped-down dselect was a separate binary, and the installation procedure would install the full dselect later), though probably not by much. Just some ideas... -- -=- Rjs -=- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- / I took the one less traveled by, / And that has made all the difference. -- Robert Frost, `The Road Not Taken' -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the best window manager?
Hello, all! I like to know more about the window managers. There are many ones, and I think that a good thing would be a list of main resources, memory uses and so on about all of them. I'm now using FVWM2, but I don't know if it's the best for my needs. And learning all of the window managers to select one is (IMHO) a waste of time. One more thing: what's the menu package that some persons are talking about? Thanks for all. Alexander Gieg =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= By: Alexander Gieg E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/3222 IRC: AlexG =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troubleshooting (was Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE)
Joseph I really do appreciate the Joseph help that incompetents like me can get from more expert Joseph individuals -- but how do we get to be able to fix stuff Joseph for ourselves ??? That's a very interesting question. I've often found myself getting desperate and going to a listserv for help, only to arrive at a solution to the problem (by troubleshooting, BTW) minutes after sending off a desperate message to hundreds or even thousands of people... Perhaps the answer is 'patience'. Maybe we should start a new mailing list, debian-dumb-questions. It would cut my traffic down from debian-user. Mark -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows video modes
Eric == Eric Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric I have been trying to instal X on my linux box, and Eric everythig in theinstallation went ok. whenever I start Eric xinit or startx, however, it rolls by some startup mgs and Eric then gives me the following: Eric (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named 640x480 (--) SVGA: Removing mode 640x480 from list of valid modes. Eric (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named 320x200 (--) SVGA: Removing mode 320x200 from list of valid modes. Eric Then the screen blanks out for a second, comes back up, Eric gives me a fatal server error, andgoes back to the root Eric prompt. Whenever I try xdm, it goes really wacko, with the Eric screen flashing, text jumping around, and all sorts of Eric interesting and disturbing things. Eric I have de-installed and re-installed several times, checked Eric my XF86Config (and several others) and everything seems to Eric be set up right for my card (a Paradise Accelerator Value Eric card) and my monitor. The two modes ARE defined in Eric XF86Config, both in /etc/lib and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, but Eric it's not picking them up. I've been pulling my hair out Eric trying to figure out why. Eric Help me before I go bald! Usually, behavior of this sort is caused by faulty configuration information in /etc/X11/XF86Config. You claim to have checked the file and confirmed that everything is set up right for your card and monitor, so that would not seem to be the problem. The second thing to check is whether you have the proper X server installed and set as default. The most reliable way to do this under Debian is to simply reinstall the X server package and answer yes when it asks you if you want to set this server as default. Another possibility is that you have multiple XF86Config files on your system and X is looking at the wrong one. 'locate' can be useful in tracking down problems of this nature. Good luck. -- Nathan L. Cutler Linux Enthusiast http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~nlc -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys
From: Steve Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I figured it out by reading the XF86Config man page and all the keyboard description files, and working backwards. Perhaps I should put a mini-HOWTO on my todo list... Sounds like an X or XFree86 bug (insufficient documentation). Daniel -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DNS lookup failure was (Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE)
In response to the DNS lookup failure I was advised that removing the commas was sufficient to get things working, and have been reporting that fact to folks on debian-user. Although it is true that dpkg-ftp will now work, if the first nameserver on the list works, it will not make any use of the remaining addresses in the list. The proper method is to have one address per nameserver line. So: nameserver a b c should actually be: nameserver a nameserver b nameserver c Which will exhibit the correct behavior. This will be fixed on the next set of base disks. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postgres95(postmaster errors)
I installed postgres95 and postgres95-dev, and get this message when I try to start postmaster: postmaster: can't load library 'libbsd.so.1.0.0' so I look for libbsd and find a libbsd.a, so I make a symlink. Now when I run postmaster: postmaster: '/usr/lib/libbsd.so.1.0.0' is not an ELF file postmaster: can't load library 'libbsd.so.1.0.0' What can I do? Thanks, Walter L. Preuninger II -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems.
Thanks a lot for your reply. Here's some answers to your questions: From: Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kevin Traas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: More diald problems. Date: Friday, January 10, 1997 3:04 PM On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:31:43 PST Kevin Traas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 1. Why does diald drop my connection 30 seconds after establishing it, even though there are packets being sent across that would normally keep it alive. (Note - I can do anything across the connection once established, but no matter what (ftp, telnet, etc.) diald still kills the connection.) This is normal. Diald is an intelligent connection handler. It can enable different timeouts depending on the various kinds of packets which go through the link. I guess the ICMP ECHO packets are not maintaining the link. The default is 10minutes for standard TCP packets. Try a telnet, and the link should stay up for 10 minutes. If you want to modify the different timeouts, I'd suggest to read the manpage carefully (thing you're likely not to have done :-). Uh, yes, I've gone over all the docs, examples, man pages, HOWTOs, minis, etc. that I could find on this - no luck so far, so I'm coming to the debian-user list as a last resort. *NOT* because I'm too lazy to RTFM! grin Anyways, what I was trying to get across is that the connection process works perfectly after I added the route command to setup the default route via /etc/ppp/ip-up. However, NO MATTER WHAT I DO across the connection, diald kills it after only about 30 seconds of uptime. In other words, even if I start a telnet or ftp session, I hardly manage to get connected to the remote site and diald drops the connection and my session hangs. Of course, with these connection-oriented utilities, I've got to start over again when I get reconnected. However, if I run a connection-less utility like ping, it'll ping merrily along for 30 seconds until diald kills the connection and then wait until diald again re-establishes it again. So, right now, I'm in this see-saw situation where even though there are packets that should be resetting the timeouts and stopping diald from dropping the connection, it's not happening. So, diald kills the connection, then realizes there's traffic to send, reconnects, drops, reconnects, drops, reconnects, drops, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Get the idea? Oh, and to restate. I haven't changed (or really even looked at) the diald.conf file where timeouts and filtering information is kept. That's all exactly as it came in the 0.14-8 distribution. 2. From the docs, I thought diald would establish the default route to the gateway automatically. Am I wrong in my assumption? If so, is what I did to fix the problem the right way to go about it? Do you have a `defaultroute' command in your diald.options file ? Are the addresses of both sides of the link correct in this file too (`local' and `remote') ? Yep! Even though it's there, it doesn't seem to establish the default route to the ISP's interface. As for the addresses, I've got the following lines in my diald.options file: local 127.0.0.2 remote 127.0.0.3 dynamic This is straight from the man pages and mini-HOWTO. The sl0 interface gets these addresses and then the ppp0 interface gets the real addresses from pppd once the connection is established - from the dynamic option. (I also read somewhere that those addresses *must* be different from the actual ones otherwise the routing changes won't work and everything'll get screwed up I don't have that reference right in front of me right now, but I could find it again, I think.) Do you have any suggestions as to what's wrong here? TIA for your reply, Kevin Traas Systems Analyst Edmondson Roper Chartered Accountants http://users.uniserve.com/~erca Chilliwack, B.C. Pager: (604) 918-2054 Office: (604) 792-1915 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows video modes
I have been trying to instal X on my linux box, and everythig in theinstallation went ok. whenever I start xinit or startx, however, it rolls by some startup mgs and then gives me the following: (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named 640x480 (--) SVGA: Removing mode 640x480 from list of valid modes. (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named 320x200 (--) SVGA: Removing mode 320x200 from list of valid modes. I have de-installed and re-installed several times, checked my XF86Config (and several others) and everything seems to be set up right for my card (a Paradise Accelerator Value card) and my monitor. The two modes ARE defined in XF86Config, both in /etc/lib and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, but it's not picking them up. I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out why. The file XF86Config, should be in /etc/X11, and /etc... Don't change the file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. Copy that file into /etc, if you are running plain XFree86, or into /etc/X11 if you are running the debian packages (and make /etc/XF86Config a symbolic link to /etc/X11/XF86Config). If the server is removing modelines from the valid modes list (and there are modelines defining these modes), it is because the modeline doesn't fit with the selected clock, horizontal sync range and vertical refresh rate. See if you find a message saying Modeline 640x480 needs some syncrange, if this given sync range is outside the syncrange given in the Modefile, this is the cause. I've also come to experience, that defining virtual screen size that is less (or equal) than your actual screen size, will give problems. There should be a message stateing this... But look at the last line, when the server returns to your console, or take the output of 'startx' and redirect it into a file, to see the entire message given by the server. It should also give you a reason, near the end of the output stating why the server didn't start... you may need that for further troubleshooting. -- Ørn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
talk problems? Have I seen this before?
I think I might have seen some questions/answers regarding talk/talkd recently, but ignored them because I did not know I had a problem. I try to talk to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and syslog spits this out: Jan 10 19:30:25 walterp in.ntalkd[889]: connect from 199.233.164.225 Jan 10 19:31:10 walterp talkd[893]: recv: Socket operation on non-socket Jan 10 19:31:34 walterp last message repeated 48669 times Jan 10 19:33:55 walterp in.ntalkd[903]: connect from 199.233.164.225 netbase is 2.06-1 and netstd is 2.08-1 Pointers, anyone? Walter L. Preuninger II -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems.
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:49:26 PST Kevin Traas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:31:43 PST Kevin Traas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anyways, what I was trying to get across is that the connection process works perfectly after I added the route command to setup the default route via /etc/ppp/ip-up. However, NO MATTER WHAT I DO across the connection, diald kills it after only about 30 seconds of uptime. In other words, even if I start a telnet or ftp session, I hardly manage to get connected to the remote site and diald drops the connection and my session hangs. Of course, with these connection-oriented utilities, I've got to start over again when I get reconnected. However, if I run a connection-less utility like ping, it'll ping merrily along for 30 seconds until diald kills the connection and then wait until diald again re-establishes it again. Do you know why diald terminates the connection ? If you've got `debug 31', diald should output a shitload of messages (in /var/log/messages). Would you give us an excerpt ? Basically, every packet that goes through the link causes a message, satsting what rule was applied and the timeout before the closing. BTW, are you able to get anything done during the 30 seconds delay ?I mean, if you telnet somewhere, do you get the login prompt ? Oh, and to restate. I haven't changed (or really even looked at) the diald.conf file where timeouts and filtering information is kept. That's all exactly as it came in the 0.14-8 distribution. I don't know if the stock diald.conf is correct, I've rolled my own one using an old one from an old diald version. I'm thinking of something: try to a `up' keyword to diald.options (meaning to keep the connection running all the time) to see if the problem comes from diald filtering or from something else... Do you have a `defaultroute' command in your diald.options file ? Are the addresses of both sides of the link correct in this file too (`local' and `remote') ? Yep! Even though it's there, it doesn't seem to establish the default route to the ISP's interface. As for the addresses, I've got the following lines in my diald.options file: [snip] Could you send your diald.options file ? That would be easier. Include diald.defs and diald.conf if you've changed them too... And maybe a trimmed (without comments) ppp.options. This will make things easier... Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xwindows video modes
Eric Budd writes: I have been trying to instal X on my linux box, and everythig in theinstallation went ok. whenever I start xinit or startx, however, it rolls by some startup mgs and then gives me the following: (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named 640x480 (--) SVGA: Removing mode 640x480 from list of valid modes. (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named 320x200 (--) SVGA: Removing mode 320x200 from list of valid modes. I had to remove or comment out all ModeLine commands but one. Then XF86Config worked for me. Here is the XF86Config for my Toshiba 2150CDS # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** # ** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ** Section Files # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like .txt or .db). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection # ** # Server flags section. # ** Section ServerFlags # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging #NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. #DontZoom EndSection # ** # Input devices # ** # ** # Keyboard section # ** Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line #Protocol Xqueue AutoRepeat 500 5 # Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required # when using pre-R6 clients #ServerNumLock # Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) #Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: #LeftAlt Meta #RightAltModeShift #RightCtlCompose #ScrollLock ModeLock EndSection #
Re: How much space does a Debian mirror take?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark W. Blunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ISDN is 64. T1 is a monster, and if you can't get ISDN, Its extremely unlikely that you could get one. Actually T1 is a much more available and mature (and reliable) transport than ISDN. But, not cheap at 1.536Mbps. All the ISPs seem to support only WFW3.11/95/Mac/NT and not Linux. Depends on what you mean by support. If you mean when you tell them you are using Linux, they can tell you how to set up your chatscript, then no, they usually don't support it. On the other hand, if it can run MS products, you should be able to set up Linux whithout to much of a problem. It's true -- PPP is PPP, and anything that supports it will work. I have people dialing up with Linux, SunOS, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, MacOS with MacPPP, MacOS with OTPPP, and dedicated routers from several vendors. It's all the same. That's why we have protocols. -- Shields, CrossLink. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 3.01
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Timothy Phan wrote: Hi All, Brian C. White wrote: : : Anyone have any comments on the stability of Netscape 3.01? In : particular, I'm curious if it runs o.k. with the lastest libc, or do I : need to continue loading Netscape with the older malloc etc. : :If you install it with the Debian package (in contrib), then it works :just fine. : I thought the netscape package in contrib/ was just the installer. The real Netscape binary still needed from somewhere? Is that right? BTW, can someone tell me where and what version of the Netscape for Linux/Debian should I down? Thanks! You need netscape 3.01. Download it from ftp.netscape.com or its mirror, and put the archive in /tmp. Then use the installer to install it. __ Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XPMs?
Hi All, Benedikt Eric Heinen wrote: I'd like to propose a little change for some of the existing packages (including fvwm95, dosemu, afterstep, fvwm-common, elvis, tgif, ctwm, wily, xsok, offix and some others). Is there really a *NEED* for each package to have its icons somewhere else (just to name a few of the directories where icons are stored /usr/X11R6/icons, /usr/images, /usr/include/pixmaps, /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps, /usr/X11R6/lib/ctwm/images). Also, if someone were willing, could someone maybe put all those icons together into a single package (stored in a single directory) that is required by the others? It's good idea to put all the icons on same directory but let's not make another package with all the icons. Icons should come with package they belong in. Later, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Custom kernel and boot problems still...
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Kendrick Myatt wrote: Hmmm... In my /etc/modules file I only have the following: #auto serial lp ne However, each time I boot it is still going and polling for all the nic cards and CD-ROMs, which effectively hoses my LAN. I tried modconf and according to it, nothing is loaded except the above. How hard is it to compile a kernel on Debian? I suppose I will have to find out :) TIA for any options or ideas! Compiling your own custom kernel the the way to go. You need to have the kernel source installed. Then, you can use the following sequence of commands as root: $ cd /usr/src/linux $ make config $ make dep ; make clean $ make zImage The last step creates a compressed kernel image in a subdirectory of /usr/src/linux (you'll see which one at the end of a successful compile). make config is a primitive interactive script. make menuconfig is a console/xterm menu-driven version, and make xconfig is a tcl/tk version of make menuconfig. The advantage of the latter two is that you can go back and change previous settings without starting over. A great source of simple info about compiling kernels on linux, and configuring lilo to boot your kernel from the hard drive is the book _Running_Linux_ by Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman. A earlier version by Welsh, titled _Linux_Installation_and_Getting_Started_ should be freely available on the web in ps format. I've also heard a rumor that someone is working on a new commercial version of this book which will include Debian-specific information. Luck. Syrus. -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just a Proposition....:-)))
While that may be a rather rare example (and I do have a slightly broken VGA monitor as a `backup', for changing CMOS settings and such, though it's a pain to change monitors), I wouldn't be surprised to hear of people using Debian with MDA/Hercules/CGA/EGA monitors or even no monitor at all (network servers, configuration via a serial port or the network interface). And I think it's even more common (especially for network servers) not to have a mouse. Raises hand. Yes, you're correct. I have two machines running Debian here at home; my personal workstation with SVGA etc, but also a server. The latter is a 486-DX-33 with 12mb RAM, Hercules/CGA video card and monitor, and no mouse. No X, SVGALIB etc on this machine .. hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems.
On 10 Jan 1997, Guy Maor wrote: Kevin Traas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. From the docs, I thought diald would establish the default route to the gateway automatically. Am I wrong in my assumption? If so, is what I did to fix the problem the right way to go about it? The right way is to add `defaultroute' to /etc/ppp/options. I have a nagging problem with 'defaultroute' that maybe you can help me with. Everytime diald drops the link due to inactivity, it deletes the default route. After that, diald won't bring the link back up for non-loopback addresses because there aren't any routes. I have to manually force the link back up. Any ideas? David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1001 E. Arapaho Road (972) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Better Categorization (was: improvements)
Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think it would be a good idea to add a Keywords: line to the control information for Debian packages. This would be an extension to the Section: field with the section being considered the primary keyword. A user-interface utility would then allow the user to narrow/expand the list of package presented. For example: ^^ God, god, don't (necesary) need that fancy interface. Add a submenu in curent dselect betwen main-menus selct entry and the select screen. In that submenu You can chose one of the sections or all sections. Dselects standard way of going to the next menu item when returning from previus selection will make it real nice to browse all the sections one at the time. Keywords is god too, but a posability to view one section at the time will help allot (it's easy to get lost in 1.1's pakage-list, 1.2 is twice as big right?). The dependency/conflict screen must of corse show all involved pakages, regardless what section they in. Sections: [ ] admin [ ] base[ ] comm[ ] contrib [ ] devel [ ] doc [ ] editors [ ] experimental [ ] games [ ] graphic [ ] smail [ ] math [ ] misc[ ] net [ ] news[ ] nonfree [ ] shells [ ] sound [ ] text[ ] x11 contrib experimental and nonfree maybe should be prioritys (right term for Required, important... ?) rather then sections? Probably complicated but an editor is an editor even if exprimental or nonfree. I do like this prioritys. don't take them out of dselect - it's a graet hint to novice users. Like them so much I think they usefull to build an esy install tool on. EASY INSTALL TOOL SUGESTION Let the user chose a priority fore eatch section then install all pakages whit that or higer priority. Possably adding 'none' as an option on some sections (You dont need games at all). The install should be done in the least likely to break order. Debian is a Big and complicated. It's in the nature of an 'complet' Linux (U**X - or anny 'real' OS) distrubution. To make things worse, its a constantly moving target. The install must be able to stand some dependesy bugs I dont know the safest order but to give on exampel: Install all pakages of higest priority, then take every priority in order. For every priority start whith the base section follewed by the admin section and then the rest. In this way will the info that controlls the easy install be visible in dselect. That makes it easy to know what You have changed from the default and esy to recover to the default if You get 'lost'. This easy install tool will automaticly follow debians evulosion as pakages change priority and new sections is introdused. Thats a good thing too I do know You can make selections i dselect on sections and on different prioritys for eatch sections much as this easy install tool is sugested to. I think it's still is a point in an tool that makes that even MORE easy... Hope You can stand (and understand) my English... /Lars -- / / _/_ _/_ Lars Hallberg IT-konsult Micro++ /\_/\ / / www.micropp.se/lahwww.micropp.se / Micro++OOP C++ WWW-Design Utbildning LINUX FreeWare -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gravis Ultrasound PnP sound card, How to make work with debian ?
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Stan Brown wrote: I asked around a little, and decided to buy a Gravis Ultrasound card for my debian machine. It turns out to be a PnP device. Setting the kernel up to handle the Gravis card looks simple, but how do I deal with the PnP ? My machine does *not* have a PnP biso. Any advice would be greatly apprecited. At the moment there isnt any Gravis Pnp support in the linux kernel. You have to alternatives: 1. Purchase the commercial version of OSS which has Gravis Pnp support. or 2. Grab the third party Linux Ultrasound driver which supports 8 gravis cards including the PnP's.. Check out http://www.pf.jcu.cz/~perex/ultra Note: I use this driver and havent had many problems.. The driver is still being developed and there is a mailing list ..etc I would recommend option 2! Anthony -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ZyXEL CAPI driver
Is there anywhere a CAPI driver for zyxel's ISDN `modem's? TIA -- Ciccio C. Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WG: Just a Proposition....:-)))
-- Von:Hamish Moffatt Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Januar 1997 06:59 An: Riku Saikkonen Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff:Re: Just a Proposition:-))) While that may be a rather rare example (and I do have a slightly broken VGA monitor as a `backup', for changing CMOS settings and such, though it's a pain to change monitors), I wouldn't be surprised to hear of people using Debian with MDA/Hercules/CGA/EGA monitors or even no monitor at all (network servers, configuration via a serial port or the network interface). And I think it's even more common (especially for network servers) not to have a mouse. Raises hand. Yes, you're correct. I have two machines running Debian here at home; my personal workstation with SVGA etc, but also a server. The latter is a 486-DX-33 with 12mb RAM, Hercules/CGA video card and monitor, and no mouse. No X, SVGALIB etc on this machine .. I fully agree, too. We have a couple of routers here which are running debian. They have SVGA-Cards (hard to get anything less new in germany) but are only runnin in text-mode. No mouse and keyboard and monitor are multiplexed. Regards Thomas Tomiczek System Administrator SIRECO INTERNET SERVICES GmbH -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Q: How can I change the xaw libs?
I installed the new xaw3d package out of curiosity. It has become the one used in X at the moment. I'd like to change back to xaw95 (which is still installed) but don't know how. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan -- *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xnest problem
Does anyone know how Xnest gets its font path defined? The manpage doesn't say, but it does say that if it isn't right it won't work. It somehow maps its own font path to the real server's but I don't kow how that happens. I think if I can tell it to use the font path in /etc/X11/XF86Config it'll work, but I don't know how to feed Xnest a font path. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan -- *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
should X 3.2-2 go to rex-fixed?
Why X 3.2-2 go to bo, rather than rex-fixed? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the best window manager?
Hello, all! I like to know more about the window managers. There are many ones, and I think that a good thing would be a list of main resources, memory uses and so on about all of them. I'm now using FVWM2, but I don't know if it's the best for my needs. And learning all of the window managers to select one is (IMHO) a waste of time. well, fvwm95 is basically the same as fvwm2, just a different look. If you want a really extentable one, gwm is the way to go (but I don't speak elisp, so I don't really know). Personally, I'd just stick with fvwm2 One more thing: what's the menu package that some persons are talking about? That's the package that tries to take away part of the need to learn the window-manager your're using (the part of making the menus). The menuentries will be added/removed when the packages that provide the apps are installed/removed. Wait till tonight/tomorrow, install menu-0.10 (menu-0.9 is OK too, but the README is old, and doens't have any man [1] pages) Unfortunatly, at the moment most debian window-managers don't support the menupackage directly, though. If you want support for your window manager, read /usr/doc/menu/examples/README, and copy the appropriate files to /etc/menu-methods/, to ge the menu-entries in your window manager (olvwm (debian rev 2) is the only wm that at the moment supports the menus directly; pdmenu (a text-based menu system) also supports it). menu-0.10 will be available on master's incomming, but if you don't have access to that, check ftp://rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl/debian/upload (that's where it will appear first, and be removed shortly after it's moved to the main distribution). [1] manual files in menu-0.10 by Joey Hess -- Thanks! -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to get the window-managers from
joost witteveen wrote: and reinstalling fvwm95 will do. Or, of cource try fvwm2, or any of the other 9 (or more) available window managers. (but they all _should_ have the same problem if /etc/x11/window-managers doesn't exist) Speaking of window managers, I've noticed the absence of olvwm (as opposed to olwm). Does anybody know of a debian package that contains this, or at least a location for source code? Should be on any good debian mirror neary you (unstable/x11/olvwm_4.1-1.deb), or, wait for debian rev 2 that supports the menus directly. Oh, btw, the debian fvwm95 now also supports menus. -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Improvements -- Canning
Richard G. Roberto wrote: This can be done without changing package dependency data. We really just need to have a different interface for installing. The current installer only takes you as far as getting base installed and then throws us into dselect. There needs to be an intermediate step that allows for simplified installation of a choice of several install profiles. What if a set of packages were developed, one package for each specialized type of installation? This would place the burden on those who want such a specialized installation (of which there are many types (per this thread)). Some package types that come to mind: newbie: a package that installs basic stuff (no X) babushka: a package that installs much like Red Hat's initial setup appl-dev: a package that installs stuff used by application developers This is non-trivial however. All packages of a given section cannot be installed and someone needs to decide on which packages go in the canned profile and which don't. This needs to be a dynamic list that requires active management much like the existing release and it would not replace any part of the existing release process, so it means more work. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZyXEL CAPI driver
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, ciccio wrote: Dear Ciccio, Is there anywhere a CAPI driver for zyxel's ISDN `modem's? CAPI is a brain dead Win/DOS crap. You do not need CAPI for using your ZyXel with linux. Just use the tty like for normal modems. You may use e.g. ppp this way. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
S3V
Help would be appreaciated I am running debian 1.2 on a box with a S3 Virge card 4 mb. Runs fine with 8 bitplanes at 1280x1024, but how do I get 16 bitplanes ? Michael -- Associate professor Michael Gajhede, Department of Chemistry, Universitetsparken 5, Copenhagen University, 2100 Copenhagen Denmark. tlf 45-35320280, fax 45-35320299 internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: S3V
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Michael Gajhede wrote: Dear Michael, Help would be appreaciated I am running debian 1.2 on a box with a S3 Virge card 4 mb. Runs fine with 8 bitplanes at 1280x1024, but how do I get 16 bitplanes ? The support of the S3 Virge Chip is very new. I am not shure wether 16 aka hicolor is already supported in case it is please start your Xsession with 'startx -- -bpp 16' from your text console Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Too many packages!
Ok, so somehow I downloaded a lot of stuff I just don't want, like X, emacs, TeX, and a host of little things like the little calculator program... I fire up Dselect and go to remove, and then it comes back to the menu screen with Exit highlighted. Is this normal? Yes, because you didn't select what you want to remove. Use select first. Note: You DEselect what you want to remove. When I first used dselect, I unselected everything and then selected the packages I wanted to remove. You can guess the rest... Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 3.01
: Anyone have any comments on the stability of Netscape 3.01? In : particular, I'm curious if it runs o.k. with the lastest libc, or do I : need to continue loading Netscape with the older malloc etc. : :If you install it with the Debian package (in contrib), then it works :just fine. I thought the netscape package in contrib/ was just the installer. The real Netscape binary still needed from somewhere? Is that right? BTW, can someone tell me where and what version of the Netscape for Linux/Debian should I down? That is correct. The actual binary is available from ftp://ftp.netscape.com or http://www.netscape.com The 3.01 installer will only install the 3.01 version of netscape. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.01. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's up with SCSI tape drives in Debian 1.2?
Everytime I install the distribution I notice that despite configure the tape driver and seeing the system report st0. I still have to MAKEDEV nst0 _after making sure that omit stuff is all commented out_ in /etc/makedev.cfg. Also, if I interrupt gnutar after creating nst0 and just doing something like tar tf /dev/nst0 if I interrupt this I usually expect a rewind of my tape drive to occur but not is I continue with another tar it will start where it left off. My drive is a trusty reliable HP 1533A DDS2 mechanism. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems.
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, David Engel wrote: I have a nagging problem with 'defaultroute' that maybe you can help me with. Everytime diald drops the link due to inactivity, it deletes the default route. After that, diald won't bring the link back up for non-loopback addresses because there aren't any routes. I have to manually force the link back up. Any ideas? It's a bug in diald that has been fixed with the newest release of diald. However, the newest release hasn't been debianized yet by the maintainer (I don't think). I am going to do it myself if a new diald.deb doesn't show up in unstable soon. If you want a copy, email me. Erv ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
16bpp in X
i can make X run with 16bpp, no problem, by typing (as someone has noted) 'startx -- -bpp 16' the question is - how do i make 16 bpp the default (i.e. xdm starts up when i boot, but only in 8 bpp) thanks, brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://weber.u.washington.edu/~maximill -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PnP Zoom/ComStar 28.8 w/Linux?
Anyone succeed in getting the Zoom/ComStar 28.8 so-called PnP modem to work with Linux? (Model #620) This modem insists you use the plug-n-play feature, as it does not have any jumpers you can use to bypass it. Under NT, I had to actually run a dos program called setmodem, after each time I did a hard-reboot, then soft-boot into NT before NT could recognize there was a modem installed. I fear I may have the same scenario with Linux, but there is one hope -- at least with Linux I can get source code to the modem driver and possibly add whatever it is that tells the modem to behave (and use COM3/IRQ5). Thanks for any help on this - I really need to dial into the Internet using Linux. Jim Blaney -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's up with SCSI tape drives in Debian 1.2?
Robert Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: nst0 _after making sure that omit stuff is all commented out_ in /etc/makedev.cfg. I think this, at least, is fixed in the latest install disks. Also, if I interrupt gnutar after creating nst0 and just doing something like tar tf /dev/nst0 if I interrupt this I usually expect a rewind of my tape drive to occur but not is I continue with another tar it will start where it left off. nst0 is the non-rewinding device. When a program closes it, the tape stays where it was. If you want rewind, use st0, the rewinding device. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any IRC channels for (Debian) Linux?
Are there any IRC channels specifically for discussing setup issues related to (Debian) Linux? thanks. Jim Blaney -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A proposal to improve dselect
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Chow Chi-Ming wrote: Then I don't think it can be considered a bug per se. If XF86Setup is Neither do I. not on your system, you are not expected to run it. You must come across XF86Setup from some other documents and from the same source Yes, but as a totally new user, how am I expected to know. I propose any of the following solutions: 1) Put some notice in the installation process, making the user aware that he/she *must* install vga16 if he/she is a newbie. Maybe in the configuration script (sorry, but if you wish to configure this you need to install vga16). 2) Create some sort of dependencies to force the inexperienced user to install vga16. 3) Run xf86config instead of XF86Setup during configuration, if the XF86Setup isn't available. There should also be a notice like you'll get a much nicer graphical setup if you install vga16. serious one. How would you know that you can use XF86Setup and that vga16 has to be installed without consulting docs. The same applies No, this is wrong. A new user should not have to read long documents prior to installation. The configure scripts which runs directly after the installation should make reading docs unnecessary. My totally-newbie friends were both given rex of my HD. They both called me after installation and asked how to get X started. Neither had configured X in any way. How are they supposed to know? The post-install configure script should take care of it. What we can do, I think, in Debian is that in each of the post-install scripts of xservers (except vga16 obviously), check the existance of XF86Setup. If it is not found, offer an option to users to install vga16 and get the nice XF86Setup ``or'' start xf86config if the user A very good idea! But it the user hasn't got XF86Setup he should be told so, and told what it is and how to install it. // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 16bpp in X
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Brad Bell wrote: i can make X run with 16bpp, no problem, by typing (as someone has noted) 'startx -- -bpp 16' the question is - how do i make 16 bpp the default (i.e. xdm starts up when i boot, but only in 8 bpp) From my XF86Config: # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) Section Screen Driver accel Device Stealth Video 864 Monitor Shamrock 15DF DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection Display Depth 8 Modes 1024x768 800x600 ViewPort0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 1024x768 800x600 ViewPort0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Syrus. -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to configure Xfree86 for 3 button mouse ?
I set up my system initialy with a 2 button microsoft comaptible mouse. Nw I have purchased a 3 button mouse. Both are serial. I have installed the new mouse and iw roks OK except that i don;t get the middle button functioanlity (Paste te in xterm for instnace). How can I fix this? Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1996 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A proposal to improve dselect
Jonas Bofjall writes: No, this is wrong. A new user should not have to read long documents prior to installation. No, this is wrong. The new user should be provided with copious documentation and be admonished to print it out and read it. The configure scripts which runs directly after the installation should make reading docs unnecessary. Every effort should be made in the design of these scripts to make reading the docs unnecessary, but, despite our best efforts, this will sometimes fail. Then the above mentioned docs will save the day. John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help
Hello I came on to linux two days ago. Bought a book with a cd in it. The cd was ver 1.2.x. But one problem I can't use my cd-rom (Reveal 4x) with it. It is not supported. I saw some web sights with some defferent versions but they all have extensions like .gz. Can anyone help me with taking one of these versions and installing it? Since I got the book I am going bonkers without being able to do what I am reading about. Can someone help me please? Whitney Warwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] GO PACKERS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZyXEL CAPI driver
Martin Konold says: Is there anywhere a CAPI driver for zyxel's ISDN `modem's? CAPI is a brain dead Win/DOS crap. You do not need CAPI for using your ZyXel with linux. Just use the tty like for normal modems. According to he manual, CAPI is the only way to access the second B-channel while the first is being used, not using another serial port (which is occupied by the mouse). -- Ciccio C. Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie questions
I am sure this is dead simple and explained in several places but I'm getting nowhere fast. I am using a Micron pentium 100 and have Win95 operating on a partitioned 2 gig HD. I choose win95 or debian through OS2 boot manager and debian boots from its partition with LILO. I also have a debian swap file partition. I have downloaded and (apparently) successfully installed 1.2.1(actually 1.2 first and then 1.2.1) and thrashed around in the Infomagic December cd-rom set with dselect. I understand the commands OK but the sheer volume of packages is overwhelming. Anyhow, I can't get the directory to display at the / level other than 3 bash files (or subdirectories). I have logged in as root and su. I can cd to subdirectories and ls -a or ls -f and see the trees from there but not at root. Also, following Zenon Fortuna's detailed posting regarding the Info Magic LDR (thank you Zenon!!) I can get to the point of trying to create a new kernel but the make config says command not found. I suspect this has to do with run levels or permisions but I am quite lost. And finally, every once in a while I hit an attempted command experimentally and the root prompt changes from # to and I can't use any commands. When I try to go back to the rot directory I get a not connected message. My only way out has been to shutdown. Any suggestions. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A proposal to improve dselect
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Igor Grobman wrote: I am no expert either, but pushing / and entering the search string does take you to a different package IF it exists. Otherwise, it just takes you back to the one package that matches the string. Good! That is what most would expect. If you don't want to type the search string in again the \ will find the next occurance. The real key of interest here should be the ? key. This will lead you to answers to questions like this without requiring any email. (at least in some cases) Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZyXEL CAPI driver
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, ciccio wrote: According to he manual, CAPI is the only way to access the second B-channel while the first is being used, not using another serial port (which is occupied by the mouse). Yes this is of course true. You need an extra tty if you want to use a second destination at the same time. I do not know about channel bundling. (this means 2 B channels aka 128kbit to the same site.) I does work for sync ppp for internal cards. You might consider getting a cheap passiv internal card (about $100). These are capable of using up to two channels withoput occupiing any tty. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Requesting December on the mailing list archives.
Could who ever manages the mailing archives put up the December files please.
Re: What is the best window manager?
You should check http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/ that has lot's of stuff about window managers. A quick count gave 35 more or less known window managers. // Heikki I like to know more about the window managers. There are many ones, and I think that a good thing would be a list of main resources, memory uses and so on about all of them. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mime and elm (was RE: X-wm question and ZipDrive)
On 10 Jan 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Casper == Casper BodenCummins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Casper Couldn't you pre-filter your email with procmail and a MIME Casper extraction program? Maybe the packages mime-support (which Casper `can be used to turn virtually any mail reader program into a Casper multimedia mail reader') or mpack? The latest mailagent ships with example rules for detecting and un-miming messages automatically. Works quite well ... I don't want to start the mime wars up again. We went through this before and it was very unproductive. I do feel compelled to point out that mime between consenting adults is perfectly ok. It is an excelent way to avoid data mangling by some mail handlers, so will be preferred for certain information transfer. However, it is not an appropriate wrapper for general mail distribution. Different mail agents have varying degrees of support for mime which yields differing complexities depending on what is used, remembering that some folks don't have any choice. This goes for tools like munpack as well, some installations have them and some don't. Not everyone has a linux box to e-mail from, and are savy enough to set up the filters. Mail on the lists is intended to satisfy a GENERAL audience and mime doesn't yet comfortably fit everyone, or even most, of that audience. If you wish what you say to be heard by the complete group on the list, don't use mime to encode the e-mail. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any IRC channels for (Debian) Linux?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Jim Blaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are there any IRC channels specifically for discussing setup issues related to (Debian) Linux? I usually join #Debian when I go on IRC, but I've never seen anyone other than myself there. If anyone would like to come to the channel, I'll be there! :) Ben - -- Brought to you by the letters A and X and the number 18. Nerd. Loser. Jerk. Moron. Worm. Scum. Idiot. Fool. -- Pkunk, SCII Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQBVAwUBMtf6k/Tlx5Rynzi5AQFC6wIAjy8t4IAls10PDMrQZP+ubGS07Ree4tQE rtP7WoiWWY7aFVJTdwl6a+DMgABleQA9RrZnekFLlMkiKLSjxisIQQ== =QBnZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Custom kernel and boot problems still...
There's a package called 'kernel-package' that has Debian Linux kernel package build scripts in it. You can find kernel-package from section misc. Note that there might be a newer version in unstable than stable. I'm attaching a previous mail from debian-user about the same question. Make-kpkg is one of the files in package kernel-package. You wrote: [cut] How hard is it to compile a kernel on Debian? I suppose I will have to find out :) TIA for any options or ideas! [cut] // Heikki To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: A few questions. From: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 08 Jan 1997 03:56:23 -0600 Hi, About question 2: Jon == [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jon 2) I am use to directly building slackware kernals. Will Jon something like make config; make; make zImage; make zlilo; make Jon modules; make modules_install break any dependancy info? I Jon noticed make-kpkg; what options would be comparable to the makes Jon above? The procedure would work, but leave no record with dpkg about the kernel being used. I like being able to use dpkg to track kernel images/sources and easy install/de-install. The above sequence is equivalent to the excerpt from the README file: INSTALLATION NOTES: For the Brave and the impatient: 1% cd kernel source tree 2% make config # or make menuconfig or make xconfig and configure 3% make-kpkg -r=custom.1.0 kernel_image 4% dpkg -i ../kernel-image-X.XXX_1.0_arch.deb 5% shutdown -r now # If and only if LILO worked or you have a means of # booting the new kernel. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! Detailed instructions ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Beware of cnews upgrade!
The cnews upgrade in bo is dangerous if you do not back up your /var/lib/news directory first! It will leave SOME of your configuration files but will overwrite others with the default cnews files. Files that get changed are (at least) sys, batchparms, mailpaths. It seems to leave explist alone. I have not looked at controlperm yet. Is there any way that the maintainer can check for an existing set of these files and at least copy the existing ones safely out of the way instead of overwriting them? It also seems to use a different overview strategy with a duplicate tree under /var/spool/news/over.view instead of a simply .overview in each of the existing news directories. This resulted in errors every time newsrun is executed (could not open /var/spool/news/over.view/news/group/name/.overview ) George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 and keymaps on debian 1.2
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christian Lynbech [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However now, even though it still boots up nicely with a danish keymap, X now provides a US layout. I could of course fix it with xmodmap but that shouldn't really be necessary I hope. # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. #XkbDisable # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: #XkbModelpc102 # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: #XkbModelmicrosoft # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: #XkbLayout de # or: #XkbLayout de Det er faktiskt ret godt, hvor mange har sine egne metoder at sætte tastaturet paa under X. XFree86 kommer med et danskt symbol layout som default, saa du behøver faktiskt kun at vælge et danskt tastatur naar du kører xf86setup. Men ellers saa fylder du bare ind dk istedet for de i sætningen. #XkbVariant nodeadkeys # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: #XkbOptions ctrl:swapcaps # These are the default XKB settings for XFree86 #XkbRulesxfree86 #XkbModelpc101 #XkbLayout us #XkbVariant #XkbOptions XkbKeymap xfree86(de) ^ -- Ørn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New login logs everybody
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mathieu GUILLAUME) writes: Hi. It seems the latest login package now puts every login process in /var/log/auth.log, instead of the former root logins, su and login failures. Is there any way to revert to the former behavior without having to revert to the former package ? If so , which one ? Short of recompiling, no. Apparently it's an upstream source change, but I agree it's overzealous so I'll take it out but add an option to turn it on: -l. I need to release a new version anyway as I forgot to turn on the suid bit. (not a terribly big deal actually, but otherwise you can't change ids with `exec login'). Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any IRC channels for (Debian) Linux?
Jim Blaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are there any IRC channels specifically for discussing setup issues related to (Debian) Linux? I usually join #Debian when I go on IRC, but I've never seen anyone other than myself there. If anyone would like to come to the channel, I'll be there! :) Ben On which network? Efnet? Cheers, - Jim pgp1uSwDKAdy7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys
> > > From: Steve Dunham [emailprotected] > > > I figured it out by reading the XF86Config man page and all the > > keyboard description files, and working backwards. Perhaps I should > > put a mini-HOWTO on my todo list... > > Sounds like an X or XFree86 bug (insufficient documentation). > You mean BIGGER documentation for X, is gonna get someone to RTFM? :-) -- Ørn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Problem installing with Adaptec 2940 SCSI (fwd)
Hi, With my computer (PPRO, 2 SCSI-HD, 1 SCSI-CD) I have same trouble. Then I find out, that Debian only detect the TWO LOWEST numbered SCSI-HD'S for cfdisk. good luck Peter Prinzen e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail servers: share your experience with us
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Debian - Leander Berwers wrote: There are a number of mail server products like sendmail and smail. - What product are you using? Sendmail as made available from the debian developers. I've grown up as a sendmail junkie, and keep the O'Reilly book within arm's reach. I do need to buy the new one. - Are you satisfied with it? Does it do what you expect from it? Yup. Handles my unmoderated list very well. - How does it behave at higher loads? Performance losses? Brain deads? Minimal experience at high load, but then again, I used the sendmail bok to guide me when setting up my mailing list. My list would have to see a massive amount of email to cause the load to get crazy. It's set up so that mail to the list is delivered one at a time by a queue runner, not handled immediately. As such, I'd have to be delivering to all local mail boxes and have enough mail to last more than 30 minutes to push the load average above 1! So yes, I do like sendmail. --Pete ___ Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
