Can't get color in xterm!
At some distant point in the past I used to get color in my xterms... I had even customized the colors using X resources. But after installing a bunch of things, I don't get color anymore. The xterm still understands the color escape sequences, but it maps them all to either black or white It doesn't look like my /etc/X11/Xresources file it causing the problem. Does anyone have a clue as to where the problem might be? Because it's really annoying... For instance, the default configuration of lynx now gives my black on white for both the highlighted link and the other links. I'm tracking unstable. Thanks, Christian pgpJhNESQzVEn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signing in Exmh locks X
Try typing your passphrase and hitting Enter. You may be experiencing a problem with the visibility of the dialog window (it may be off the edge of the screen). That was one of the first things I tried. As far as I can tell, PGP is never actually run. It seems that X or FVWM2 balks when Exmh tries to spawn an xterm with PGP in it. The xterm is not displayed and PGP doesn't start. All I can do is move the mouse pointer around (can't click on anything) or switch to another console. The ps command doesn't show any relevant pgp or sh processes. Only the xterm that's supposed to start PGP but never appears: 6592 ? S 0:00 xterm -l -lf /tmp/exmh.5641.xterm.0 -title PGP -e sh -c -u nset PGPPASSFD;\012pgp +armorlines=0 +keepbinary=off -stab /tmp/e xmh.5641.msg.0 -u 0x9F317269 -o /tmp/exmh.5641.pgp.0;\012\011echo\012 Killing that process brings my X session back into working order. PGP works fine in an xterm with the exmh PGP View and PGP extract keys options. I would be guessing that the passphrase has something to do with it except for the fact that pgp doesn't seem to be running.
tset?
When telnetting into a remote Debian box I want to have the screen size set automatically to 100x40 to suit my home Debian box. At the moment I am using: export LINES=40 COLUMNS=100 after I log in. As I sometimes use the first box in local mode I want the screen size to depend on how I access it and I want it to stick when I su to root. Pointers, anyone? Lindsay
Re: PGP signing in Exmh locks X
That was one of the first things I tried. Got me, then. Sorry.
Modem not detected
Hello all I just installed Debian 1.1 today and it refuses to see my modem during the boot-up process /dev/cuaX = no such device I'm new to linux, but not that new... I have been running RH for a few months. I ran setserial /dev/cua1 and it returned the correct values BTW, usr 33.6 pnp ( but jumpers r set to com2 or cua1) under redhat I had no problems using it, for my ppp connection I tried minicom out to see if I could get the modem to dial with no luck I've spent about 3-4 hours looking in the doc's that I can find on the web and as of yet had no luck. I hope this isn't on the FAQ list.. or if it is plz send it to me :) TIA any and all help is welcome flames pleasently ignored :) Peter __ / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . . *** There are 2 major products to come out of Berkley: LSD and UNIX. I do not believe this to be a coincidence. ***
Re: tset?
As I sometimes use the first box in local mode I want the screen size to depend on how I access it and I want it to stick when I su to root. I generally put something like this in login files (as well as aliasing it to 'rs'): eval `resize` stty cols $COLUMNS rows $LINES You may find it useful to do conditional checking on the terminal type before doing this or your fixed configuration.
Lilo and CDROM
I just installed Debian Linux v1.2.0 for the first time and im having some problems. I have a 486dx2/66 16 MB RAM, 540 HD. Linux partition about 200 MB and Linux Swap partition 16 MB. I have to boot off of my rescue disk because my lilo wont work. When i try to go to the Boot of the Hard Disk option it gives me this error: sbin/dinstall: cannot creat /target/etc/lilo.cong: directory nonexistent How do i fix this? I dont know many commands. Also when i boot off of my rescue disk (its the only way i can get in unless i set my Linux partition as bootable but i need access to my win95) it loads up hundreds of drivers that dont work. Several for each thing...like 5 for the CD ROM but none of them work, is this normal? Even when my linux was booting off of the hard drive it did this. It took over 3 minutes to load. Another problem: I can't install any packages because I cant mount my CD-ROM. I tried: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /cdrom/ ( and many others) but they still will not work. I get this error EVERY time: mount: /dev/hdd is not a valid block device I get the same error when im in dselect trying to configure the CD ROM. Thank you, Chris Trantau [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: I tried being logged in as ROOT and normal user but with the same results.
Re: Modem not detected
In your email to me, Peter Yarych, you wrote: Hello all I just installed Debian 1.1 today and it refuses to see my modem during the boot-up process /dev/cuaX = no such device I'm new to linux, but not that new... I have been running RH for a few months. I ran setserial /dev/cua1 and it returned the correct values BTW, usr 33.6 pnp ( but jumpers r set to com2 or cua1) under redhat I had no problems using it, for my ppp connection I tried minicom out to see if I could get the modem to dial with no luck I've spent about 3-4 hours looking in the doc's that I can find on the web and as of yet had no luck. I hope this isn't on the FAQ list.. or if it is plz send it to me :) in /etc/modules, either uncomment the line #auto by removing the #, or add the line serial and reboot. This will add the serial module, and you should be all set. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps I have abandonded my search for the Truth, and now am looking for a good fantasy... Ashleigh Brilliant ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
Re: Modem not detected
Use modconf and add the serial module. It's under misc on the modconf menu. Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, Peter Yarych wrote: Hello all I just installed Debian 1.1 today and it refuses to see my modem during the boot-up process /dev/cuaX = no such device I'm new to linux, but not that new... I have been running RH for a few months. I ran setserial /dev/cua1 and it returned the correct values BTW, usr 33.6 pnp ( but jumpers r set to com2 or cua1) under redhat I had no problems using it, for my ppp connection I tried minicom out to see if I could get the modem to dial with no luck I've spent about 3-4 hours looking in the doc's that I can find on the web and as of yet had no luck. I hope this isn't on the FAQ list.. or if it is plz send it to me :) TIA any and all help is welcome flames pleasently ignored :) Peter __ / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . . *** There are 2 major products to come out of Berkley: LSD and UNIX. I do not believe this to be a coincidence. ***
Re: tset?
I have .bashrc setup for remote login differences. I also have executable scripts in my home directory to account for other differences. I usually give them single-letter names because I am not a great typist. Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
Re: can't umount /usr(/dev/hdb3)
On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, David Puryear wrote: I upgrade a lot of packages, don't know exactly which ones though, and now shutdown -h now and umount will not unmount /usr(aka /dev/hdb3). It gives me same error: umount: /dev/hdb3: device is busy Does anyone have any idea as to what is causing this? If you are in any of the mounted directories (including the top, e.g. /mnt), then umount would give this message and refues to unmount the device. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: TeX fonts
On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, Ralf Comtesse wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, When I use some of the not so common fonts in a TeX document, MakeTeX* of debian 1.2.7 cannot generate them automatically anymore. The *.tfm files are present and I think all paths in texmf.conf are correct. Is there a fix for that? I don't know, but I'm very happily using the new tetex packages from unstable which seem to fix most of the previous problems with the tex packages. I'm doing this on two machines that I upgraded to the bo distribution. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Lilo and CDROM
On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, Chris Trantau wrote: I have to boot off of my rescue disk because my lilo wont work. When i try to go to the Boot of the Hard Disk option it gives me this error: sbin/dinstall: cannot creat /target/etc/lilo.cong: directory nonexistent The partition has to be mounted. I seem to remember that the 1.2 rescue disk has an option to mount without reinitializing the partition. How do i fix this? I dont know many commands. Also when i boot off of my rescue disk (its the only way i can get in unless i set my Linux partition as bootable but i need access to my win95) it loads up hundreds of drivers that dont work. I may get flamed for saying this: If your system boots w95, create a boot floppy for Linux. W95 is garbage and sometimes needs to be reinstalled. When you reinstall it, it will overwrite your lilo boot. I had it setup to boot Linux unless I typed w95 within 10 seconds. This seemed to create problems when I wanted to restart w95 in dos mode. I hardly ever use w95, so I leave the linux boot floppy in the drive. It's not a big problem because Linux doesn't have to be rebooted after every 2 or 3 internet sessions like 95 does. You can create one using the rescue disk. I think you should do this and test it before you do anything else. for each thing...like 5 for the CD ROM but none of them work, is this normal? Even when my linux was booting off of the hard drive it did this. It took over 3 minutes to load. I can't install any packages because I cant mount my CD-ROM. I tried: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /cdrom/ ( and many others) Make sure you only select one CD-ROM from the device drivers. This is available from the rescue disk. If the system is booted it is the modconf command. The iso9660 support is also selected this way. If you have unecessary drivers selected, it will take a long time to boot. Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
Re: can't umount /usr(/dev/hdb3)
David Puryear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I upgrade a lot of packages, don't know exactly which ones though, and now shutdown -h now and umount will not unmount /usr(aka /dev/hdb3). It gives me same error: umount: /dev/hdb3: device is busy Try doing `fuser -m /usr', then you'll find out what process it is that's still using /usr (you probably want to put it into your /etc/init.d/halt script at an approprate point, then exit from the script to get more information). /etc/init.d/halt should send SIGTERM then SIGKILL to all processes before umounting filesystems, so it is strange that there is still a process that's alive. Hope that helps you work it out, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Debian Package Finder
Does anyone know what happenedn to the http://rae.ton.tut.fi/preview/? I loved this page. It made life *s* much nicer evertime I wanted to find a new package. Thanks, Adam.
Qpopper: what happened to /etc/popper.deny
Hi. I noticed that the debian version of qpopper doesn't seem to use the /etc/popper.deny file which our old version of qpopper did. Does anyone know what I need to do in order to be able to use this file again to restrict POP access to mail? Thanks, Adam.
Re: bug package
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Francesco Tapparo wrote: I'm a happy debian user: I have a bo installation. I have noticed that rxvt and emacs don't run automatically update-menus after the installation. I think that these are bugs, and I have reported thes using bug. Bug has mailed the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I don't have received any answer. Is this a problem of bug? Is this a problem of the bug tracking System? Try reading smail logfiles to find out what happened with the mail... -- Nicolás Lichtmaier.- | Try visiting #debian in Undernet. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The channel of the debian developers =)
RE modem not detected
Thanks to everyone for the tips. modem now works :)) __ / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . . *** There are 2 major products to come out of Berkley: LSD and UNIX. I do not believe this to be a coincidence. ***
RPM
From Redhat's blurb about their new Maximum RPM book. RPM currently runs on Linux, IRIX, Solaris, SunOS, AIX, HP/UX, AmigaOS, and FreeBSD, and is quickly becoming the de-facto packaging standard for free software on the Internet. I have to say up front that I don't like RPM. I'd like to hear more about the direction DPKG is going in. All this RPM talk is giving me a complex. - Willie Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.quicklink.net/~gith/ Linux-GGI Project: http://synergy.foo.net/~ggi/ -
Debian Book list
For those that remembered a few weeks ago when I had posted my idea for a Debian Manual/Book. I got such a good response on it. I have started the outline but I don't feel that the current debian lists that are out are the proper place for this. So I have started up a list for the book. You can subscribe to it by sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] With a body message of: subscribe debian-book-discussion Then to send messages, send your email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The current outline is located at http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/Book.outline.html I encurage feedback on what should be included. Also, if you go onto Undernet IRC, I am usually on the channel #Debian with the nick WildOne- Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/
XFree86 3.2, XDM and Chooser
I'm trying to get the Chooser to work with XDM, so I can select what machine I want to use. (In other words, I want to use my own machine as an X-Terminal.) I've managed to get the chooser to select a couple of machines (including my own), but whenever I try to select one of them I end up with the xdm-login-promt for my own machine. Relevant configuration information: /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess (Added one line) blight.somewhere.net CHOOSER blight final retry maleficium anguish /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers (192.168.200.20 is my own machine, eg. blight) :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 16 -indirect 192.168.200.20 When I log in it seems to use rsh to start something on the machine I'm on (using remote, perhaps?). I tried starting xdm with -debug 9 and the output MIGHT indicate that something is going wrong: --- select returns 1. Rescan: 0 ChildReady: 1 Process chooser socket Accepted 6 Read returns 14 Read from chooser succesfully Got indirect choice back signals blocked, mask was 0x0 --- Manager wait returns pid: 16024 sig 0 core 0 code 0 Display exited with OBEYSESS_DISPLAY --- --- Also, I'm using xdm-shadow, not xdm. Vebjorn Forsmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 13 6B 4B 7C 83 B7 DC 5C 9C A8 AE C0 AD 22 F4 2048/00952325 1995/05/13 To err is human, to forgive is Not Company Policy.
Re: Postgres95 - missing library
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi there, I've recently downloaded the latest stable POSTGRES95 package and installed it (Debian 1.2; kernel - 2.0.27). Apparently I'm missing a package, as postmaster keeps on complaining: can't load library 'libbsd.so.1.0.0. I will appreciate advise as to the whereabouts of the above mentioned library. This bug has already been reported - there has never been a shared libbsd.so in Debian. It's only an hour that I've asked postgres95's maintainer if he is still maintaining the package and offered to drop in. I'm running a locally compiled version of postgres using the upstream sources. Thanks Siggy -- Siggy Brentrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** PGP public key available from keyservers *** PGP fingerprint = C8 95 66 8C 75 7E 10 A2 05 61 C7 7F 05 B6 A4 DF
Re: Debian Book list
The developers have realized more and better documentation is needed. Did you know there is now a mailing list for discussing this type of thing? ([EMAIL PROTECTED] the subscription address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]) This might be a better place to discuss a Debian book. (which is something we desperately need IMO.) -- Jaldhar On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, Chad Zimmerman wrote: For those that remembered a few weeks ago when I had posted my idea for a Debian Manual/Book. I got such a good response on it. I have started the outline but I don't feel that the current debian lists that are out are the proper place for this. So I have started up a list for the book. You can subscribe to it by sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] With a body message of: subscribe debian-book-discussion Then to send messages, send your email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The current outline is located at http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/Book.outline.html I encurage feedback on what should be included. Also, if you go onto Undernet IRC, I am usually on the channel #Debian with the nick WildOne- Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/
Firewall logging... where?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi! I've got a little question: I'm setting up a firewall and wanted to examine what happened with the packets I put through it. I've configured the kernel for firewall logging but somehow, nowhere in the logs in /var/log the information shows up. Is there anything else that I have to do, or is something wrong with the 2.0.29 kernel. BTW I'm running Debian 1.2. Thanx in advance! Pascal van Dam -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBMz5A5rwDCjuP8XUxAQFwmwL/SAX/2W6Haj3Kap/MhJUtU2kp1E5wY5pZ J8cPXShK2sZ5p+exgIvVbV1+UZoFsbtc5Q4jipDaWWA1ogu//A+YqTomKWIU7xhc e1GkE5tgJhdr+w3DmrOZKjkK/VeDfqFE =/0FI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Type Bits/KeyIDDate User ID pub 768/8FF17531 1997/02/28 Pascal van Dam [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3i mQBtAzMXItEAAAEDAMECacZmToXi6H+Vmxe1yJzdhK67uIYi/4i0yboZvhStdxzu mv3JvA50lLYg8vvIHmPY4QjdkRCHmSkc4HxJPx6xWFkmjZdP7QjGnfQSpEVNvWOA 8c0vKlK8Awo7j/F1MQAFEbQoUGFzY2FsIHZhbiBEYW0gPHBhc2NhbEByYW1vdGgu eHM0YWxsLm5sPokAdQMFEDMXItG8Awo7j/F1MQEBHNEDAJnVqk1ZWKJMrpIDwJei jVoGE2Xu53KalSVdxFJ/W89vQmW5lQQsr1sZyrYmhxIaBhW/EQISW7ZfE/SBA+VK CZXhBI+xRFAy8VSX0QhxbgCIGTRpsSdsFY0v775d9p+hmQ== =9TJu -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Re: RPM
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Gith wrote: From Redhat's blurb about their new Maximum RPM book. RPM currently runs on Linux, IRIX, Solaris, SunOS, AIX, HP/UX, AmigaOS, and FreeBSD, and is quickly becoming the de-facto packaging standard for free software on the Internet. Oh really? De-facto standard? This type of bloated marketing claim reminds of another very popular commerial software company that makes operating systems for PC's. And the fact that Redhat often reminds me of them is one of the reasons I choose not to use Redhat I have to say up front that I don't like RPM. I'd like to hear more about the direction DPKG is going in. All this RPM talk is giving me a complex. Sure, you can port dpkg or RPM to another Unix. Shouldn't be that hard. But different unixes have different directory structures and require different binaries. So you gotta get people to start making packages in that format for that particular system. Redhat my have ported RPM to other platforms but I don't see any of the free software distributed over the Internet for various Unixes in RPM format. It's all in tarballs as usual. Most commercial Unixes have their own packing systems anyways. Dpkg can swallow redhat RPM's via the alien feature. So even in the unlikely event that the entire planet were to convert to RPM, we can still use dpkg! Time flies like arrows, but fruit flies like bananas Perry Piplanihttp://perrypip.netservers.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netservers.com
ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v10)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi folks! I just installed the new Debian Logo Page (v10) today. You can have a look at it via http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/ The new page contains 14 new and 9 old logos and uses HTML forms to make it easy for you to tell us your opinion. We collect all the comments we get this way and make a ``feedback page'' out of it. The current version contains 217 comments. Thanks a lot to all that told us their opinion! Thanks a lot to all who submitted a logo so far! Our plans are to have an official logo until the next Debian release. If you think you can make a better logo or have a nice idea feel free to send me your drafts. We have set up an extra mailing list for discussing these issues: debian-publicity@lists.debian.org Our plans are to have a collection of, say 20 nice logos soon, so that we can start an election. Since we don't have much time left we would appreciate it if people would try to improve the old logos instead of making new ones. So if you want, just take on of those old logos, have a look at the comments at the feedback pages and try to improve it. The feedback page for the current logo page (v10) will be released on Sun Apr 6, 1997. The next logo page (v11) will be installed on Sun, Apr 13, 1997, the dead line for logo submittions is 10:00am MET DST (+0200) this day. Cheers, Chris - -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / \\\__/ !PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA \ / http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/ - -.-.,---,-,-..---,-,-.,.-.- DIE ENTE BLEIBT DRAUSSEN! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBMz5giU4c72jvRVaFAQHssgP/a2KN6JzxTZT7KjZpLTtR2wIlapEYP723 pLH1FXsMGQg+HSdVQ/TZBmDfvzvxwHDpR/5hHVxKBBhW2yiV4+inxTAAZeoTyVd2 KOeb7Z+qiiwNIqr7nvIiyIz+0nrO1gKD9AXjX/O+kJSZIseITIDyIBNpqzPJgbn7 IM8uypBR1kA= =p7Er -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Debian on Sparc...
I can't find any reference to the debian-sparc mailing list (or did one never exist?). Is anyone using Debian on a sparc (or barring that, is anyone using Linux on a sparc ;-). The heart of my question is this, is it possible to get Linux up and running on a sparc w/o a CD-ROM drive? Can Debian Linux/Sparc boot off a floppy and establish an ethernet connection so that the rest of the install can proceed off a mounted filesystem? --norm
Re: Debian on Sparc...
On 30 Mar 1997, Norman Walsh wrote: I can't find any reference to the debian-sparc mailing list (or did one never exist?). Is anyone using Debian on a sparc (or barring that, is anyone using Linux on a sparc ;-). The heart of my question is this, is it possible to get Linux up and running on a sparc w/o a CD-ROM drive? Can Debian Linux/Sparc boot off a floppy and establish an ethernet connection so that the rest of the install can proceed off a mounted filesystem? --norm The ftp site has debian-sparc archived. Looks like it's been growing. Check the debian-lists directory at ftp.debian.org . If you download the latest one, you can get some email addresses of participants. Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
Lilo booting
I finally got my CD ROM working and my packages installed but i still have a question. Is there a way to make like a menu that appears when i start my computer that asks me which OS (win95/linux) i would like to go to ? I have tried making my Linux partition bootable, but it goes there automatically and when my Windows partition is set as bootable it goes there. Should i make them both bootable (is this possible?) so that it forces lilo to make a choice? Thank You Chris
Re: Lilo booting
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Chris Trantau wrote: I finally got my CD ROM working and my packages installed but i still have a question. Is there a way to make like a menu that appears when i start my computer that asks me which OS (win95/linux) i would like to go to ? I have tried making my Linux partition bootable, but it goes there automatically and when my Windows partition is set as bootable it goes there. Should i make them both bootable (is this possible?) so that it forces lilo to make a choice? Yes. You can even do it from the rescue disk. When you get the lilo prompt, you can type in the image to boot. I think the tab key will give you a list of choices. Lilo seems to be fine, but win95 isn't. If you reinstall 95 you will have to run lilo again to restore the boot record. For this reason, you should make a boot floppy and test it first. You can also do this from the rescue disk. I just use the boot floppy for Linux. If I leave it in, the system boots Linux. If not, it boots w95 from the first drive. I would reverse this if I knew an easy way to boot from floppy into w95 installed as the 4th drive. I only use 95 with a 3-D home designer program or to export data from old files. I have it limited to a 233 mb drive and am almost ready to move it to an old 105 mb Seagate. On some of my other systems, I have to use a boot floppy because the Linux partition is huge and is not located in the first 1024 cylinders. Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
How do Ienable NIS (client) on my Debian system.
A quick look at /etc/init.d doesn't make it obvious how to do this? Could someone point me in the correct direction? Thansk. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
Re: How do Ienable NIS (client) on my Debian system.
At 10:27 AM 30/03/97 -0500, Stan Brown wrote: A quick look at /etc/init.d doesn't make it obvious how to do this? Could someone point me in the correct direction? Look at the file nis.debian.howto.gz in /usr/doc/nis - if you follow it to the letter it'll work fine - well, it did for me anyway. Regards -- Karl Ferguson Tower Networking Pty Ltd Tel: +61-9-456- [EMAIL PROTECTED] t/a STAR Online Services Fax: +61-9-455-2776 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RPM
From Redhat's blurb about their new Maximum RPM book. RPM currently runs on Linux, IRIX, Solaris, SunOS, AIX, HP/UX, AmigaOS, and FreeBSD, and is quickly becoming the de-facto packaging standard for free software on the Internet. Oh really? De-facto standard? This type of bloated marketing claim reminds of another very popular commerial software company that makes operating systems for PC's. And the fact that Redhat often reminds me of them is one of the reasons I choose not to use Redhat Randolph Chung has released a alpha-test version of a utility that will convert .deb files to .rpm files. http://132.236.56.9/pages/rc42/program/martian.html And Debian's alien package can already install .rpm files. What I'd personally like to see is some more interoperability between the packaging systems. Maybe we could make a collection of RPM's that worked on Debian (the files could end in .rpm.deb), and a collection of .deb's that worked on Red Hat (the files could end in .deb.rpm). For some packages (which don't have complex requirements), this should not be a tough thing to do. Of course, differences in system policy, filesystem structure, etc. will make it difficult to do this for any complex packages. But the packaging systems would probably evolve a bit over time to make this sort of thing more possible. The benefits to doing this are obvious: instead of having two maintainers developing packages for two different packaging systems - we could cut that down to one maintainer doing work for two different systems. In the end, that means less load on the maintainers, and higher quality software. Plus, I think it would be a boost to the Debian project -- since we're much better equipped to handle volunteer package maintainers. My impression of the people who develop contrib packages for Red Hat is that they are treated as second class citizens by that particular project (maybe that sounds too nasty). The RPM's developed by Red Hat Software themselves obviously get precedence over those developed outside the company. These contrib developers might like working with us better, even if their primary target is the Red Hat system. And nobody wants you to shell out $34.95 to contribute to our project. :-) (a book would be nice to have though) Cheers, - Jim pgpkdDz1gVRsU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RPM
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Jim Pick wrote: From Redhat's blurb about their new Maximum RPM book. RPM currently runs on Linux, IRIX, Solaris, SunOS, AIX, HP/UX, AmigaOS, and FreeBSD, and is quickly becoming the de-facto packaging standard for free software on the Internet. Oh really? De-facto standard? This type of bloated marketing claim reminds of another very popular commerial software company that makes operating systems for PC's. And the fact that Redhat often reminds me of them is one of the reasons I choose not to use Redhat Randolph Chung has released a alpha-test version of a utility that will convert .deb files to .rpm files. http://132.236.56.9/pages/rc42/program/martian.html And Debian's alien package can already install .rpm files. What I'd personally like to see is some more interoperability between the packaging systems. Maybe we could make a collection of RPM's that worked on Debian (the files could end in .rpm.deb), and a collection of ..deb's that worked on Red Hat (the files could end in .deb.rpm). For some packages (which don't have complex requirements), this should not be a tough thing to do. Of course, differences in system policy, filesystem structure, etc. will make it difficult to do this for any complex packages. But the packaging systems would probably evolve a bit over time to make this sort of thing more possible. The benefits to doing this are obvious: instead of having two maintainers developing packages for two different packaging systems - we could cut that down to one maintainer doing work for two different systems. In the end, that means less load on the maintainers, and higher quality software. Plus, I think it would be a boost to the Debian project -- since we're much better equipped to handle volunteer package maintainers. My impression of the people who develop contrib packages for Red Hat is that they are treated as second class citizens by that particular project (maybe that sounds too nasty). The RPM's developed by Red Hat Software themselves obviously get precedence over those developed outside the company. These contrib developers might like working with us better, even if their primary target is the Red Hat system. And nobody wants you to shell out $34.95 to contribute to our project. :-) (a book would be nice to have though) Cheers, - Jim Last September, I went through the process of putting dpkg and dselect on a system that was initially Red Hat with lots of stuff compiled and installed afterwards. It was no easy chore. It would be nice if the area of conversion to dpkg would be addressed more. Dpkg is totally free to use, sell, modify, etc. and I'm not sure that is the case with the others. Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
Re: can't umount /usr(/dev/hdb3)
On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, David Puryear wrote: I upgrade a lot of packages, don't know exactly which ones though, and now shutdown -h now and umount will not unmount /usr(aka /dev/hdb3). It gives me same error: umount: /dev/hdb3: device is busy Does anyone have any idea as to what is causing this? If you are in any of the mounted directories (including the top, e.g. /mnt), then umount would give this message and refues to unmount the device. I don't know that this is strictly true. For instance, my fstab mounts /usr from a seperate device, and, I assume, unmounts it during shutdown. At the time of shutdown, all my users are logged in and sitting in their user accounts. Now, I know that shutdown kills all the users off before it does the unmounts, so by then they are not an issue. I assume all root processes are killed off by then as well. I had a problem recently of this type. I tried to unmount /cdrom and was told that /dev/scd0 was busy. After going to each account logged in and checking for processes using /cdrom, and finding none, I eventually logged out all users but root at VC1 and was still unable to unmount. Since I REALLY wanted the cd that was in the drive, I shut the drive off and then back on. This let the drive open it's door so I could retrieve the cd, but created problems for the system (i/o errors from df) until I rebooted. I have learned since that I could probably have 'rmmod'ed the driver and re-'insmod'ed it, but still have no idea why the system thought that the device was busy. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_-
Re: RPM
Jim Pick: Randolph Chung has released a alpha-test version of a utility that will convert .deb files to .rpm files. http://132.236.56.9/pages/rc42/program/martian.html And Debian's alien package can already install .rpm files. Randolph is a close friend of mine (I'm the maintainer of the alien program), and we're working together on this, and in a week or so, alien will merge in martian's functionality and be able to convert in both directions. Plus, I think it would be a boost to the Debian project -- since we're much better equipped to handle volunteer package maintainers. My impression of the people who develop contrib packages for Red Hat is that they are treated as second class citizens by that particular project (maybe that sounds too nasty). The RPM's developed by Red Hat Software themselves obviously get precedence over those developed outside the company. These contrib developers might like working with us better, even if their primary target is the Red Hat system. That's why I switched to debian and became a debian developer. I was previously working on contrib rpm's, and it was exactly as you say. -- See shy Jo.
Re: Support for internal IDE Zip drive?
On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Mike L. Dickey wrote: I've read the Iomega ZIP HOWTOs and noticed that they only mention 3 versions of the hardware (parallel external, SCSI internal, SCSI external). I've also browsed through the Debian website (noticed the facelift) ... there is no good site-wide search engine there, so I couldn't be as complete in my search as I'd like. I have an internal drive that I KNOW I connected to one of my EIDE controllers (plus, I don't have a SCSI host adapter at all). Is there support for this drive yet/already? I'd prefer to be able to use it as install media (instead of several floppies or the network and versus installing Linux ON the ZIP drive). I can't say for 100% sure about the ZIP internal IDE drives but I have a Syquest removable IDE drive and it works just like and other IDE hard disk. No special software support is needed other than the normal hard disk support, and the removable IDE disk support that is already included in the 2.0.x kernels. You must have a disk in the drive at bootuop so the kernel can find it. Then you use fdisk, mke2fs, e2fsck mount umount like you would any other hard disk. One snag is that if you use it as your root / partition it will software locked even after you shutdown. So you have to boot another OS to be able to remove it. The old 1.2.x kernels had a serious problems when you umount, change disks, and mount the new disk. It would think it had the smae filesystem there and complain about corruption and e2fsck would totally trash it. But the removable disk support in 2.0.x seems to have fixed that. Like I said above, I'm can't be 100% sure but I don't see why ZIP would make their internal IDE drives any different, since it's already running off the IDE controller in your box. Time flies like arrows, but fruit flies like bananas Perry Piplanihttp://perrypip.netservers.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netservers.com
RPM
Wouldn't it be great to port dpkg to DOS/Win95? It then could be used by shareware/freeware authors... And people would be biased towards Debian when adopting Linux -- Nicolás Lichtmaier.- | Try visiting #debian in Undernet. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The channel of the debian developers =)
Re: Debian on Sparc...
Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't find any reference to the debian-sparc mailing list (or did one never exist?). Is anyone using Debian on a sparc (or barring that, is anyone using Linux on a sparc ;-). The heart of my question is this, is it possible to get Linux up and running on a sparc w/o a CD-ROM drive? Can Debian Linux/Sparc boot off a floppy and establish an ethernet connection so that the rest of the install can proceed off a mounted filesystem? You should be able to pull this off without a floppy - the boot rom knows how to do BOOTP and then load a kernel off the net. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package MODULES
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Paul Nelson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- When I upgraded to the Bo (Unstable) it tells me that package modules relies on package modutils (which is not available). With that I do not get a few files needed for kernel compilation (such as /sbin/genksyms (which is a symlink to /usr/bin/genksyms)). If I install the modules from the stable distribution, it works. Anybody have any ideas? It's in the base directory, maybe Packages is a day or so behind. You have 2 choices. 1) Make a Packages file that is correct for your copy of bo. 2) use dpkg to install modutils. Since you are using bo, you should get used to running dpkg without dselect. Write if you need more help with it. Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
Re: TeX fonts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hallo Syrus, On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: I don't know, but I'm very happily using the new tetex packages from unstable which seem to fix most of the previous problems with the tex packages. I'm doing this on two machines that I upgraded to the bo distribution. thanks a lot, that did the trick. No more immidiate problems (just 4 hours of using it). Cheers Ralf _ Ralf Comtesse Tel: +49-30-28599230 Gipsstr. 15 Fax: +49-20-28599231 10119 Berlin e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBMz6O8A+XSzNOWOS5AQH0XgL+P50eExp6jqzRY1d0MR9yuPMEVaSFzXcF 9OP1jJJ3XFFe5y/WehJ46OHDtBJcSOsGpv6/1sJVIH8k+e9gGLEwVoDSnyDWtl4V dD7zhKpbYgk+qedteHNjRIPlQ0MtQOWf =RdyZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Lilo booting
I've found that you have to mark the WIN95 partition as the bootable partition in the partition table or win95 has a hissy-fit. However, this DOES NOT affect the boot-ability of your linux partition. You can make both linux and win95 bootable on power-up by editing your lilo.conf file in your /etc directory. It should look something like this: # LILO configuration file # generated by 'liloconfig' # # Start LILO global section boot=/dev/hda compact delay=50 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map # End LILO global section # Linux bootable partition config begins image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 # -- this should be the device name of your LINUX partition label=linux vga=normal read-only # Linux bootable partition config ends # DOS bootable partition config begins other = /dev/hda1 # -- this should be the device name of your WIN95 partition label = win95 table = /dev/hda # DOS bootable partition config ends ONCE YOU'VE EDITED your lilo.conf file, run /sbin/lilo. On reboot, you'll see the LILO prompt. At this point press the LEFT SHIFT KEY to get the LILO boot: prompt. Then press TAB for a list of operating systems you can run. Type the name of the OS and then ENTER, and away you go... Let me know if you need more info. See the man page on lilo.conf and lilo for a more complete description. -- Harmon
Re: Pentium GCC
Maarten Boekhold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I was just thinking: wouldn't it be a nice idea to have a pgcc package around for ppl who want to get the most out of their pentium? Even if it means the package must be in experimental? I don't know to what extent it has been integrated, eventually using the -m586 flag in conjunction with -O? on gcc should optimize for pentiums. IMO there's no need for a special compiler version. Correct me if.I'm wrong. It would probably be mostly used to recompile kernels, don't know how big of an improvement you could get out of that. Most ppl won't take the trouble of recompiling every single package that have installed :). Just curious, how much would I gain with an 'pentium optimized' kernel? Maybe libc? And X? I doubt it is worth the hassle of maintaining processor specific binaries - YMMV. Siggy -- Siggy Brentrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** PGP public key available from keyservers *** PGP fingerprint = C8 95 66 8C 75 7E 10 A2 05 61 C7 7F 05 B6 A4 DF
Boot Files
Is it necessary, or even useful, to have the System.map-x.x.xx file in the /boot directory if loadlin is used for booting? Is there any need to have a kernel in / or /boot unless lilo is being used? Bob
Re: Pentium GCC
On 30 Mar 1997, Siggy Brentrup wrote: I don't know to what extent it has been integrated, eventually using the -m586 flag in conjunction with -O? on gcc should optimize for pentiums. IMO there's no need for a special compiler version. Correct me if.I'm wrong. Apparently the gcc people are slow (on an order of years) in integrating the pentium patches. I think there is some serious resistance to the way the patches fit into gcc. (someone clue us in here, these are vague memories) Although, I shiver everytime I hear someone say (I've heard this MANY times) that the pentium patches are the best thing since sliced bread and I was lonely, unemployed and worthless before the pentium patches and now I have a gorgeous girlfriend, a great job and a lot of money. Oh, and by the way, it compiles everything on my system... except for the kernel. I'd love to a tech overview about the pentium patches though. :) -douglas
Re: Pentium GCC
On 30 Mar 1997, Siggy Brentrup wrote: Maarten Boekhold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I was just thinking: wouldn't it be a nice idea to have a pgcc package around for ppl who want to get the most out of their pentium? Even if it means the package must be in experimental? I don't know to what extent it has been integrated, eventually using the -m586 flag in conjunction with -O? on gcc should optimize for pentiums. IMO there's no need for a special compiler version. Correct me if.I'm wrong. It would probably be mostly used to recompile kernels, don't know how big of an improvement you could get out of that. Most ppl won't take the trouble of recompiling every single package that have installed :). Just curious, how much would I gain with an 'pentium optimized' kernel? Maybe libc? And X? I doubt it is worth the hassle of maintaining processor specific binaries - YMMV. I suppose recompiling gcc optimized for the processor would speed it up a bit. If you really want more speed, the first things to optimize are kernel (including modules) and libraries. Notice that many programs that rely on libc are fairly compact. I'm sure many of them spend more time in library functions than the program code itself. Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
Re: Problems working with bash.
Kai Grossjohann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you type, say, g then M-p repeatedly you get all command lines that begin with g. I use this *all* the time, as an alternative to !g because it lets me see if I got the right command line before I hit Enter. Still, none of this even begins to compare with the ease of use of (horror! shock!) the DOS command interpreter 4DOS! Why use separate keys like M-p for this, when you've got the arrow keys? The principle is this: if you have an empty commandline and you type the up arrow, you get the previous command. If you've already typed something, you get whatever previous command starts with that. This combines the two functions that bash uses (and needs two keys for) into one. I wish I could convince bash to work like this! Gertjan. -- Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Boot Control home page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gklein/bcpage.html
Re: Boot Files
Robert D. Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it necessary, or even useful, to have the System.map-x.x.xx file in the /boot directory if loadlin is used for booting? Yes, there are a lot of utilities referencing it - most notably ps. Is there any need to have a kernel in / or /boot unless lilo is being used? Don't know about this one, I'm using lilo and I don't care about 700K for the current and previous kernels. Siggy -- Siggy Brentrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** PGP public key available from keyservers *** PGP fingerprint = C8 95 66 8C 75 7E 10 A2 05 61 C7 7F 05 B6 A4 DF
Re: can't umount /usr(/dev/hdb3)
Hi all, I upgrade a lot of packages, don't know exactly which ones though, and now shutdown -h now and umount will not unmount /usr(aka /dev/hdb3). It gives me same error: umount: /dev/hdb3: device is busy Does anyone have any idea as to what is causing this? The other asnwers in this list are all very usefull, but sometimes I find that whatever I do, I cannot unmount for example /usr. In such cases, it's best to do mount -o remount,ro /usr i.e. remount it read-only, so that all data is written do the partition, and you can now safely switch off the computer (execute halt). (assuming all other partions are unmonuted properly). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: Problems working with bash.
Gertjan == Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gertjan I wish I could convince bash to work like this! Open up your info reader; either inside Emacs or XEmacs, by typing 'info' at a bash prompt, or via http and dwww, and read the 'readline' manual, which you've obviously not heard of yet... There is also a lot of information in the BASH manual page and its info's; also required reading. It'll take you a couple of hours, but the time is well spent! And here's a copy of the ~/.inputrc I have been using; I think I obtained it under similar circumstances. :-) .inputrc Description: Binary data Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t You tell me and we'll both know.
FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux Sven Rudolph, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: packages.sgml,v 1.38 1997/03/30 23:11:03 sr1 Exp sr1 $ 1. General Questions 1.1. Before reading this document You should have read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ ( http://www.debian.org/FAQ/ ). 1.2. Purpose of this document This document is intended to identify areas that need your contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite often, so it supplements the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ. 1.3. Getting newer versions of this document Newer versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP: o http://www.debian.org/Documentation/Debian/packages.html o ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective- packages.txt 1.4. Feedback Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mention to which version of this document your comments refer. 2. Packages needing a new maintainer Please inform me via e-mail: o when you find that you need to discontinue maintaining a package o when you believe that the following list is incomplete o when you would like to maintain one of the packages listed here. orphaned : o libc4 (a.out compatibility) David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o libc5, libc6 (potentially a lot of work) Christian Linhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o statserial o tgif o xarchie Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o hkgerman o html2latex o icmake o ntfs o watchdog o xftp Dale Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o lclint Ian Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o pmake Jim Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mh-papers o term o witalian o pari, paridoc o wnorwegian Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o seyon o lpr Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xarclock o xdaliclock o lha o dosfstools o sendfile o uudeview doesn't exist yet: o ssh (ITAR restricted, linked against rsaref, needs US maintainer) Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o fsp o lyx Doug Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o apsfilter Yves Arrouye : o compress-package o mush o ppd-adobe-common, ppd-adobe-extra, ppd-adobe-misc, ppd-gs o psptools Michael Nonweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o ipx o nas o ncpfs Joe Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o lxtools Erick Branderhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o glibcdoc o id-utils o mathpad o wenglish o wdutch o idutch Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o adbbs (needs a better setup of pre-customized files) o bridge/bridgex (Bridging Tools for Kernel 2.0.X/2.1.X) o chos o defrag o freefont o genromfs o ibcs o ircd o ncompress o ncsa (new Webstandards need to be implemented) o netdiag o newsx o pash o poppassd o sharefont o syslinux o upsd llucius [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dialog Karl Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o sysutils Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o info2www o hyperlatex o latex2rtf o dvi2tty Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xIrc David Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mh Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o opie 3. Packages that someone is working on Programs listed in this section aren't yet available as Debian packages, but someone is working on providing a package. If you would like to work on one of these packages please contact the responsible person listed below. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl R. Sackett) : o swarm - Objective-C based artificial life research tool o GNU Smalltalk o utf-mailx: scripts to add UTF support to mailx. o SATAN - net security scanner o courtney - detects SATAN scans o gabriel - detects SATAN scans o drone - automatically runs batch jobs of simulation programs. o xephem - interactive astronomical ephemeris program for X o empire - Wolfpack Empire war simulation o togl - a Tk widget for OpenGL rendering o MIT Scheme - scheme interpreter o nanocad - a freeware CAD system for nanotechnology o WISE - WWW-based project management and metrics system Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o giftool David H. Silber [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dbackup - A Debian-specific backup program. o lockstep - A program to keep various directory trees in sync. o uucpconfig - A configuration program which will become part of my uucp package. Brian Sulcer [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o vile (vi-like editor) o rogue o umoria Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o vtwm: Virtual Window Manager for X11 o yodl o w3-msql (W3 frontend for mSQL) Michael Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o amanda, the University of Maryland's free network backup system. o nntplink Christian Lynbech [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o ilisp (emacs interface to a number of lisp systems) o hyperbole (emacs hypertext/info management system) o oobr (emacs package for browsing OO programs) o STk (Scheme Tk, a scheme interpreter with Tk support) Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o qmail (waiting for license change) Dermot Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o Umich LDAP o Nocol (network admin/monitoring) o MRTG (Multi Router Traffic Grapher) o Minivend (WWW-based catalogues) o PMConsole (Livingston's
