PPP Configuration
Is there a tool to set up ppp links or should I be doing things like #!/bin/sh PATH="/usr/bin:/usr/sbin" pppd connect chat -v -f /etc/ppp.chatscript /dev/ttyS0 38400 modem crtscts etc... I dont have this working yet but, this should be enough to get the idea across... -Jeff
Re: portmapper problems
i am replying to my own message but i finally found out what the problem is. /etc/inetd.conf got wiped out, probably because of the upgrade to either netbase 2.11 or 2.12. i'll check to see which one is the culprit and i will file it as a bug against it (2.12 that is, 2.11 seems to have been obsoleted although both are still just sitting in Incoming). --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Debian 1.3 again
On Apr 12, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote : Not a complete answer but ... : : I wouldn't recommend using /dev/modem link. This makes it : more difficult to gurantee the uucp locking protocol. Use : the actual device name instead. No, if all your call out programms use /dev/modem, it's ok. And then it's simple, to change the real device by changing the symlink/link. (In my experience it should be a HARDlink, since mgetty won't work with a symlink. But perhaps this bug/misfeature is fixed meanwhile.) Heiko -- email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp : A1 7D F6 7B 69 73 48 35 E1 DE 21 A7 A8 9A 77 92 finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpTr0PkgGYMm.pgp Description: PGP signature
portmapper problems
i just realized that i cannot telnet/ftp into my machine although i can go out with no problems. i've checked to make sure the portmapper and inetd are running (they are). at the time i realized this is happening i was running netbase 2.12-1 but in the mean time i downgraded to 2.10-1 hoping this will solve the problem. i've checked hosts.allow hosts.deny (nothing changed there), everything is running as it should but i can't telnet/ftp into this machine. does anybody have any ideas? --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: 'Frozen' boot disks
On Apr 14, Richard L Shepherd wrote > > 4/6/97 I put a copy at ftp.greenbush.com, look in /pub/bodisks. The files > > are dated by time of transfer, but they are the 4/4 set. > > > > > I have the same problem. I had thought it may be because I mirror a > > > mirror (which in turn may not directly mirror ftp.debian.org) and so my > > > mirror was effectively a few days behind. However I just checked on > > > ftp.debian.org and it really is empty so > > > > > > Where are they then? > > So my next question then is: is not ftp.debian.org the authoritative > source for the Debian Distribution? i.e. I seek to maintain a mirror of > ftp.debian.org thinking that this will ensure I have an up-to-date Debian > Distribution for my linux fans. Am I doing the right thing? You're quite corerct. ftp.debian.org is the authoritative Debian mirror for users. (for developers and ftp.debian.org there is also master.debian.org, but that doesn't matter). Unfortunately at this moment our incoming directory isn't processed. I believe that some organisatoric (sp?) issues have to be finished first. Please mirror ftp.debian.org or one of its mirrors. Sometimes ftp.debian.org is one or two days behind master.debian.org. I don't know why - this shouldn't happen... Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Re: 'Frozen' boot disks
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Paul Wade wrote: > > 4/6/97 I put a copy at ftp.greenbush.com, look in /pub/bodisks. The files > are dated by time of transfer, but they are the 4/4 set. > > > I have the same problem. I had thought it may be because I mirror a > > mirror (which in turn may not directly mirror ftp.debian.org) and so my > > mirror was effectively a few days behind. However I just checked on > > ftp.debian.org and it really is empty so > > > > Where are they then? So my next question then is: is not ftp.debian.org the authoritative source for the Debian Distribution? i.e. I seek to maintain a mirror of ftp.debian.org thinking that this will ensure I have an up-to-date Debian Distribution for my linux fans. Am I doing the right thing? 8<--->8 Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 8<--->8
Trolltech changing license for QT?
Has everyone seen this announcement in c.o.l.a? -- Jaldhar > Xref: nonexistent.com comp.os.linux.announce:3197 > Path: > news.new-york.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!194.100.36.3!liw.clinet.fi!not-for-mail > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce > Subject: Qt 1.2 released (C++ GUI framework) > Followup-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 14:51:17 GMT > Organization: EUnet Norway > Lines: 102 > Approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Wirzenius) > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost > X-Server-Date: 13 Apr 1997 14:51:20 GMT > Old-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:43:17 +0200 > X-Auth: PGPMoose V1.1 PGP comp.os.linux.announce >iQBVAwUBM1Dy+ziesvPHtqnBAQFfdwH/aVIKyxSjIN/ESbHpV3VxoGIM1Qzn+mdU >onLO5Lm2Ks6XxXz4E90UJjOaWf031WmZIOvRkSPmmkITTNV7yd28lQ== >=5eKW > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Troll Tech AS (http://www.troll.no) is proud to release Qt version 1.2 > (see LSM at the end of this posting). > > Qt is a complete and well-designed multi-platform object-oriented > framework for developing graphical user interface (GUI) applications > using C++. > > Qt 1.2 supports seamless integration with OpenGL/Mesa 3D graphics > libraries. > > Qt is free for development of free software on the X Window System. It ^^ > includes the complete source code for the X version and makefiles for > Linux, Solaris, SunOS, FreeBSD, OSF/1, Irix, BSD/OS, NetBSD, SCO, HP-UX > and AIX. > > Qt also supports Windows 95 and NT, with native look and feel. Code > developed for the X version of Qt can be recompiled and run using the > Windows 95/NT version of Qt, and vice versa. > > Qt is currently used in hundreds of software development projects world > wide. For some examples, see http://www.troll.no/qtprogs/ > > Qt can be downloaded from http://www.troll.no/dl/ or via anonymous FTP > from ftp.troll.no. It is available in both RPM and tar.gz format. > > Qt has excellent documentation: around 500 pages of postscript and fully > cross-referenced online html documentation. It is available on the web: > http://www.troll.no/qt/ > > Qt is easy to learn, with consistent naming across all the classes and a > 14-chapter on-line tutorial with links into the rest of the > documentation. > > Qt dramatically cuts down on development time and complexity in writing > user interface software for the X Window System. It allows the programmer > to focus directly on the programming task, and not mess around with > low-level Motif/X11 code. > > Qt is fully object-oriented. All widgets and dialogs are C++ objects, > and, using inheritance, creation of new widgets is easy and natural. > > Qt's revolutionary signal/slot mechanism provides true component > programming. Reusable components can work together without any knowledge > of each other, and in a type-safe way. > > Qt has a very fast paint engine, in some cases ten times faster than other > toolkits. The X version is based directly on Xlib and uses neither > Motif nor X Intrinsics. > > Qt is available under two different licenses: > - Professional, for commercial use: see http://www.troll.no/pricing.html > - Free, for developing free software (X Window System only) > Note that the toolkit is the same, only the licenses differ. > > Join the qt-interest mailing list by sending a message containing the > single word "subscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can contact Troll Tech at > > Troll Tech AS > Postboks 6133 Etterstad > N-0602 Oslo > Norway > > fax: +47 22646949 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Begin3 > Title: Qt toolkit > Version:1.2 > Entered-date: 7Apr97 > Description:C++ GUI class library with Motif and Windows95 look and feel > Keywords: gui library motif x11 > Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Maintained-by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Primary-site: ftp.troll.no /qt/source > Alternate-site: sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/X11/devel/libraries/c++libs > Platform: linux/X11R6 > Copying-policy: freely distributable with certain restrictions > End > > > - -- > This article has been digitally signed by the moderator, using PGP. > http://www.iki.fi/liw/lars-public-key.asc has PGP key for validating signature. > Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION. > This group is archived at http://www.iki.fi/liw/linux/cola.html > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: 2.6.3i > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBM1Dy+YQRll5MupLRAQH0kAQAl0kbrhYY9T+eS7bFfRdh1SdgvoprJJel > VQlexFSmieSD72o7b6NjZWb2ucjD79tjUKwkQkmXeM5az0PaQUDJIbejr76rmChx > Du/PRGcXD5CLrEutkqtUM08XtRuPBrfb4mxPzlmd3xqU7DdxHeu+F2B5+TKHAEpy > enzCKVLC0Dk= > =K7Ld > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: next release of debian...
> > On Apr 13, A. M. Varon wrote > > > Hi, > > > > > > I would like to know the date of the next release of debian. I'm a bit > > > confused, some say debian 1.3 ... others say that it's debian 2.0? > > > > At the moment official documents date it on April 28. We'll see if > > this is reasonable. > > And April 28 will be the release date of 1.3. I really doubt that's going to happen. Just look at the number of packages in Incoming waiting to be put into frozen. Are all of those going to just get dumped into 1.3 a few days before it's released? If this happens, we're going to cement our reputation for having the worst-testing distribution around. I hope the release date gets pushed back another month. Cheers, - Jim pgpSsgP9vh2kG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: "dselect" replacement project ("deity")y
> This is the real issue. If you could select the 'high level' groups > and only deal with the components if you want the option it would > be fine. But if I select a group I want it to mean 'install what > it takes to make this work', not 'tell me about some other things > I need to do first in some unknown order'. It would be really nice to have some highlever package order, like some commercial UNIX vendors have. For example one might have the choice to install everything as it suits himself or choose some highlevel packages like a KDE environment using Dutch locales or a OpenLook environent or just good old non-graphic install. It makes it much easier for newbies. We need some hierarchy in the package structures. > > Les Mikesell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Best regards, Pascal
Re: cua /ttys
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Kevin J Poorman wrote: > hi > > Ok I have heard from one source that the cua* devices are being kept > up... and from this list that the cua* devices are not being kept up... > and that we should use the ttyS* devices ... and comments ... > > > -kevin > Not too long ago, I was chastised for using the "/dev/cu word". I have had no problems with my newer test installs using ttyS* for the /dev/mouse and /dev/modem symlinks. Probably there are some old FAQ's and HOWTO's that differ. Maybe even some of the other distributions. From what I remember, I believe that one potential problem involved the proper locking and unlocking of the resource. If it was only accessed as a ttyS*, the problem was eliminated. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.wtop.com/What does W.T.O.P. mean? + +--+
Re: Debian FTP Problems
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I apologize in advance for what may be a silly question, but, I am > attempting to download Debian Linux from the US site (130.207.9.21), so > I log on and go to the directory: > /ac184/linux/distributions/debian/rex-fixed/binary-i386/base > and attempt to click on one of the many directory, for instance, > getty_1.45a-3.deb and get an error saying > 550 getty_1.45a-3.deb: no such file or directory > It works fine when I log into my shell account, and ftp the files to my > shell, then download them, but I'd prefer to download them right from > the ftp site to my HD. I'm using CuteFTP to do this, and just having no > luck, as I outlined above. Any suggestions? > Sounds like your FTP client is not following symbolic links. Try checking the configuration, or try ws_ftp. Perry -- If red tape were nutritious, we could feed the world. Perry Piplanihttp://perrypip.netservers.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netservers.com
cua /ttys
hi Ok I have heard from one source that the cua* devices are being kept up... and from this list that the cua* devices are not being kept up... and that we should use the ttyS* devices ... and comments ... -kevin
Re: dselect
> Hahaha...I know exactly what you mean. That's part of the problem I > have now. I used the hold command to put a stop to that and now have > to select file by file to upgrade since nobody seems to know how to > clear the status in dselect. If you go on the line saying "Updated packages (newer version is available)" and type "G", this should unhold all the packages that were updated. At least it works here. For some obscure reason, Hold and Unhold do not work if you are on the line saying "All packages". Does someone know why ? -- Michel Beland [EMAIL PROTECTED] professionnel de recherchetel: (514)369-5223 fax: (514)369-3880 CERCA (CEntre de Recherche en Calcul Applique) 5160, boul. Decarie, bureau 400(423), Montreal (Quebec), Canada, H3X 2H9
Re: next release of debian...
> On Apr 13, A. M. Varon wrote > > Hi, > > > > I would like to know the date of the next release of debian. I'm a bit > > confused, some say debian 1.3 ... others say that it's debian 2.0? > > At the moment official documents date it on April 28. We'll see if > this is reasonable. And April 28 will be the release date of 1.3. The release after 1.3 will be 2.0, and will have glibc in it. For 1.3 is at the moment being tested by a special testing team, and is thus, for that team only, already released. There is already talk about what should be in the release after 1.3, and people discussing this may say "the next release should have glibc in it", forgetting that, officially, 1.3 hasn't been released yet. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/bin/perl -sp0777i
Re: "dselect" replacement project ("deity")y
> > Note that RedHat gets this right, at least on the initial install. They > > prompt for groups of programs that generally would be chosen together > > and hide the ugly details unless you ask to pick individual items. > > It may be nice to individually pick every file on a unix distribution > > but most people have better things to do. These days you probably > > can't buy a disk that is too small to hold a fairly complete > > installation. > > I don't know. I was quite thrilled when I found that debian was giving me > the option to know more or less exactly what was going on my system. You have to compare against RedHat, not slackware. They have a checkbox for 'select individual components'. So you get your choice. > I was of course less thrilled by the problems > mentioned above, especially the confusing way the dependencies are > presented. This is the real issue. If you could select the 'high level' groups and only deal with the components if you want the option it would be fine. But if I select a group I want it to mean 'install what it takes to make this work', not 'tell me about some other things I need to do first in some unknown order'. > Nevertheless I think individual package selectin on install is > something we should keep, at least as a perfectly accesable option. I > would like to see the energy go into that rather than a more general > packaging scheme. I think more new users like it than you think. Watch someone else install both Debian and RedHat, then think about that again. New users want something that works the first time. On the other hand, dselect might be fine once you get past the initial install. Perhaps all it really needs is a special install mode where it knows that you have to take certain things in a certain order. Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: next release of debian...
On Apr 13, A. M. Varon wrote > Hi, > > I would like to know the date of the next release of debian. I'm a bit > confused, some say debian 1.3 ... others say that it's debian 2.0? At the moment official documents date it on April 28. We'll see if this is reasonable. > What are some of the features of the next release? Ah.. I'll step on this train as I want to give out some public information on this, too. ;) o Shadow passwords Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Re: Auto updating the hardware clock on shutdown.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes: > Now what might have happened is that you have your CMOS clock running on GMT. > Some BIOSes try to be smart and update the CMOS clock when you boot if they > see DST has come into effect since the latest reboot.. You should be able to > turn that off. If not, you loose :) %^*&*%$%! You get the prize. I just realized that I've rebooted to windows once since the time change, and now I recall it telling me that it was fixing the clock for daylight savings. I was busy at the time, and so I didn't think anything of it (actually forgot about it), but your comment reminded me that it, of course, screwed up the hardware clock which was on GMT. Serves me right for running that beast :> Thanks -- Rob
Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v11)
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote: > I just installed the new Debian Logo Page (v11) today. You can have a > look at it via > > http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/ Why does your page still have this comment: "(There once was an official logo with a baby gnu on it (see above), but it has been dropped with the separation of Debian and the FSF.)" We kissed and made up long ago. Below I've quoted this page: http://www.debian.org/cooperation.html Even if our relationship is such that it isn't appropriate to use a "baby gnu", the statement is misleading. --- quote --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 96 18:04 PDT To: debian-announce@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian and FSF Cooperate Some time ago, the Debian group decided to decline continued FSF sponsorship. This was followed by some well-meaning but very poorly stated messages that enraged many Linux participants. After an interval of broken communications, Debian and FSF have resumed cordial relations and are cooperating, even though FSF no longer has the control over the project that came with their former sponsorship of Debian, and Debian will _not_ ask for a resumption of sponsorship. Both groups have decided that this should not keep us from working together, and we are confident that we can mend any remaining Linux-FSF schism. What will come of this? And end to the annoying and useless "FSF vs. Linux" net discussion. More support for Linux in GNU software, and more support for FSF's goals in Linux software. To commemorate our decision that GNU and Linux should be partners, we will resume use of the name "Debian GNU/Linux" for our system. Bruce Perens Debian Project Leader --- end quote ---
Re: next release of debian...
hi, On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, A. M. Varon wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to know the date of the next release of debian. I'm a bit > confused, some say debian 1.3 ... others say that it's debian 2.0? > > What are some of the features of the next release? > > If this is answered, i sure hope that it be published in www.debian.org > too... for others to see. > I was just going to suggest it here ... there should be information on www.debian.org, that helps you to determine if a mirror site is up to date, etc ... and planning the buying of CD's ... (that's a problem, when you are in europe ;) In other words: put the release date of next distrib (or every update) to webpage. Mart Klanberg, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v11)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi folks! I just installed the new Debian Logo Page (v11) today. You can have a look at it via http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/ The new page contains 35 new and 11 old logos and uses HTML forms to make it easy for you to tell us your opinion. We collect all the comments we get this way and make a ``feedback page'' out of it. The current version contains 302 comments. Thanks a lot to all that told us their opinion! Thanks a lot to all who submitted a logo so far! Our plans are to have an official logo until the next Debian release. If you think you can make a better logo or have a nice idea feel free to send me your drafts. We have set up an extra mailing list for discussing these issues: debian-publicity@lists.debian.org Our plans are to have a collection of, say 20 nice logos soon, so that we can start an election. Since we don't have much time left we would appreciate it if people would try to improve the old logos instead of making new ones. So if you want, just take on of those old logos, have a look at the comments at the feedback pages and try to improve it. The feedback page for the current logo page (v11) will be released on Sun Apr 20, 1997. The next logo page (v12) will be installed on Sun, Apr 27, 1997, the dead line for logo submittions is 10:00am MET DST (+0200) this day. Cheers, Chris - -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don't know Perl? [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA http://www.perl.com http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBM1EB504c72jvRVaFAQF9CwP/epSNc6CyanHfZ2yKDj+8sNKUm5Tw69kZ dmwT7ZpTd+nPR+pBV8UbvrKt5dLxbdLM13uWO3yGzNZKLHaOyiLu0SjXv6L/LSe6 DDr6yuhwRp2l1ip+Wf6B92Ng7LlhbbbWh9Pux+b4G46KmJhUGFC86AweRT1lSNG9 gtDb3GmKpw4= =yAS6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
next release of debian...
Hi, I would like to know the date of the next release of debian. I'm a bit confused, some say debian 1.3 ... others say that it's debian 2.0? What are some of the features of the next release? If this is answered, i sure hope that it be published in www.debian.org too... for others to see. Thanks. Andre --
Re: 'Frozen' boot disks
Use ftpsearch to find the Disks... Just type in 1997-04-04 and let it search...and there they are..!! Hope this helps...Jacek
Re: update-menus
> > > I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config > > > program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change > > > things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way > > > root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Where > > > user config is allowed, it would be placed on their menus, too. > > > > > > For now, I am trying to build a list of such config commands as I > > > encounter them. > > That's a good idea (nice to see you're using my pdmenu program, btw :-) > And that you're using the menu's, btw :-) But seriously, I emaild this to the list yesterday (I think), but it hasn't shown up here yet. So, I'll post it again (after modifying the some lines). I agree with Joey that Apps/System/Admin would be a better place. Also, I'd like to suggest these menuentries (in the new format): needs=text command=/usr/sbin/liloconfig section=Apps/ReConfig title=Lilo \ longtitle="Reconfigure the way you boot" \ privileges=root then the menu-methods can install this menuentry as something like (fvwm2): + "Lilo" Exec /usr/bin/X11/xterm -T "Lilo" -e /usr/sbin/needpriv -id root -c /usr/sbin/ liloconfig and /usr/sbin/needpriv will do things like: #!/bin/bash #set $command and $id if test $id != $USER; then echo You are about to run $command, but you'll need $id privileges for that. echo Enter $id password: . (su to $id, and so on). This way, you don't need to run the window manager as root to be able to run the lilo config programme. I'll supply the /usr/sbin/needpriv script with the menu package. Anyone any comments? Thanks, -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/bin/perl -sp0777i
Re: update-menus
> Joey Hess wrote: > > > > > > I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config > > > > program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time > > > > > That's a good idea (nice to see you're using my pdmenu program, btw :-) > > > > I'm cc'ing this to Joost, since he handles the menu package. Joost, I think > > this submenu for configuration scripts should be called Apps/System/Admin > > I'd prefer something that starts with /etc (or perhaps links from /etc/? > to Apps/...). As a long time sysadm that's where I hope to find system > administration stuff. We all like to see the _files_ appear in /etc. But Joey is talking about the location in the menu's (pdmenus, fvwm*, afterstep, whatever). And then, I'll agree with Joey that Apps/System/Admin is a very good place. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/bin/perl -sp0777i
Re: update-menus
> On Apr 12, Paul Wade wrote > > > I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config > > program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change > > things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way > > root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Where > > user config is allowed, it would be placed on their menus, too. > > Good point. This would bring us one step closer to a debian configuration > tool. Would you like to discuss this topic with the particular maintainer > to get them 'registrated' - and to let them look similar. I guess we should. However, the way I've been doing that so far is simply installing most of what happens to be on my system in /usr/lib/menu/default, to show a (by me) "accepted" look. After some time, people start to expect menuentries for stuff, and people automatically start fileing bugreports against packages that don't supply menuentries. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/bin/perl -sp0777i
Re: bo : upgrade or reinstall
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Alexandre Lebrun wrote: > > I've just decided to upgrade from stable to bo, or unstable, whatever the > name is. > > Would it be useful for the projet if I do a full install and report > the bugs (if any) ? > I can easily backup my home directory and forget the rest. Yes. If the 4/4/97 disks are not uploaded to your mirror, you can get them at ftp://ftp.greenbush.com/pub/bodisks > But I could also upgrade whith dselect/dpkg-ftp > > I read tests of installation from scratch were needed, but it's perhaps > too late. I wait an hour or three for responses and I begin. > > Alexandre > +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.wtop.com/What does W.T.O.P. mean? + +--+
Re: Paging/memory allocation problem
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Alastair Gregory wrote: > Has anyone experienced the following problem? > > I recently installed Debian (from Stable disks I obtained > from debian.org a couple months back) on a Compaq Deskpro 50M > EISA box with 8MB RAM and a 340MB drive, 2 LAN cards > (SMC ELite 16 and Ultra) and an Orchid Fahrenheit > video adapter. This is a 486-50, I believe. > > Installation went fine (except that the install menus > were as slow as molasses). I only installed the base > system - no additional packages.I booted the machine > into multi-user mode, logged in as 'root' and left it > running for a day or so. > > Returning to the machine after a couple of days, I saw a > screenful of messages like: > "Couldn't get a free page." > > and finally, at the bottom of the screen: > "Out of memory for bash." > > I Alt-Fkey'ed to other virtual terminals, but couldn't log on. > > I haven't been able to re-create the problem, but left it > on over the week-end. I hope it's still running when I get to > work tomorrow. > > One possible explanation: my EISA config was out of sync > with reality, because someone had nicked memory from the machine. > I have since run the EISA config utility and fixed it. > > TIA, > Alastair Gregory Unless you don't have (enough) swap space. Use the free command to see what is happening. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.wtop.com/What does W.T.O.P. mean? + +--+
Paging/memory allocation problem
Has anyone experienced the following problem? I recently installed Debian (from Stable disks I obtained from debian.org a couple months back) on a Compaq Deskpro 50M EISA box with 8MB RAM and a 340MB drive, 2 LAN cards (SMC ELite 16 and Ultra) and an Orchid Fahrenheit video adapter. This is a 486-50, I believe. Installation went fine (except that the install menus were as slow as molasses). I only installed the base system - no additional packages.I booted the machine into multi-user mode, logged in as 'root' and left it running for a day or so. Returning to the machine after a couple of days, I saw a screenful of messages like: "Couldn't get a free page." and finally, at the bottom of the screen: "Out of memory for bash." I Alt-Fkey'ed to other virtual terminals, but couldn't log on. I haven't been able to re-create the problem, but left it on over the week-end. I hope it's still running when I get to work tomorrow. One possible explanation: my EISA config was out of sync with reality, because someone had nicked memory from the machine. I have since run the EISA config utility and fixed it. TIA, Alastair Gregory
bo : upgrade or reinstall
I've just decided to upgrade from stable to bo, or unstable, whatever the name is. Would it be useful for the projet if I do a full install and report the bugs (if any) ? I can easily backup my home directory and forget the rest. But I could also upgrade whith dselect/dpkg-ftp I read tests of installation from scratch were needed, but it's perhaps too late. I wait an hour or three for responses and I begin. Alexandre
Re: Auto updating the hardware clock on shutdown.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I assumed that the hardware clock was always written to reflect the >current system time on shutdown. Is that true? No, nothing touches the hardware clock until you tell it to (with clock(8)). >The reason I ask is >because we just had the daylight savings switch here, and at least one >of my systems came up after a reboot with the wrong time (it was an >hour off). If the clock is not by default written at shutdown, what's >the best way to make sure that it is, an appropriate rc.d script >perhaps? You don't _need_ to write the clock at shutdown time. If you set your CMOS clock to GMT, and use the right timezone settings everything will go automatically. Make sure that you configure the GMT= statement in /etc/init.d/boot correctly so that the system clock gets initialized correctly on bootup. Now what might have happened is that you have your CMOS clock running on GMT. Some BIOSes try to be smart and update the CMOS clock when you boot if they see DST has come into effect since the latest reboot.. You should be able to turn that off. If not, you loose :) Myself I have my clock running on local time, and let the BIOS do it's DST update. I need to boot DOS/windows sometimes. But it works fine with GMT="" in /etc/init.boot, and no problems with DST. Mike.
Re: update-menus
Joey Hess wrote: > > > > I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config > > > program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time > > That's a good idea (nice to see you're using my pdmenu program, btw :-) > > I'm cc'ing this to Joost, since he handles the menu package. Joost, I think > this submenu for configuration scripts should be called Apps/System/Admin I'd prefer something that starts with /etc (or perhaps links from /etc/? to Apps/...). As a long time sysadm that's where I hope to find system administration stuff. > The only thing that installs an entry in there right now is taper, but I > think it is a good name for a menu of things the sysadmin can use, which > should include these *config scripts. Also, it might be useful to add > something to the README saying that the *config scripts need to go in the > menus. > > -- > See shy Jo.
Re: update-menus
On Apr 12, Paul Wade wrote > I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config > program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change > things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way > root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Where > user config is allowed, it would be placed on their menus, too. Good point. This would bring us one step closer to a debian configuration tool. Would you like to discuss this topic with the particular maintainer to get them 'registrated' - and to let them look similar. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Re: Debian 1.3 again
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > mknod /dev/mcdx0 b 20 0 > mknod /dev/mcdx1 b 20 1 type ./MAKEDEV mcd or something... > Then I linked the modem to ttyS1...or is it vice versa?? > > ln -s ttyS1 modem > > Is this correct...??? It should be ``ln -s cua1 modem'' (AFAIK). Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990.
Debian FTP Problems
I apologize in advance for what may be a silly question, but, I am attempting to download Debian Linux from the US site (130.207.9.21), so I log on and go to the directory: /ac184/linux/distributions/debian/rex-fixed/binary-i386/base and attempt to click on one of the many directory, for instance, getty_1.45a-3.deb and get an error saying 550 getty_1.45a-3.deb: no such file or directory It works fine when I log into my shell account, and ftp the files to my shell, then download them, but I'd prefer to download them right from the ftp site to my HD. I'm using CuteFTP to do this, and just having no luck, as I outlined above. Any suggestions? Thanks, Steve Voss
Re: X-Windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim O'Brien) writes: > Both actually. First, user config details, then more about > programming. I'm at a point where I understand a good deal about > windowing systems in general, and programming as well. I've not had > much exposure to X, and though it seems quite powerful in terms of > its capabilities, the configuration/customization appears very > involved. Involved, in fact, almost to the point of overwhelming. Well, the runtime config stuff (at least the stuff you *need* to know) is not too bad. The place I learned about most of it was of course the manpages, and also the X books. I actually shelled out for a number of them, notably 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6(a/b), but I think they're naw available in the xbooks package. I did learn a reasonable amount of Motif, which might actually come in handy now that Lesstif's coming along. For my purposes Motif actually turned out to be a bad idea, but that was because you couldn't get the source to recompile with -D_REENTRANT so it would be thread safe(ish). X is quite layered, and from a user perspective, most of what you want to know about at first is actually probably in your window manager's docs, not the standard X docs. For a window manager I highly recommend fvwm2(1x) -- it has pretty good manpages. The other big issue is the handling of the X resource database. Many X apps list their resource configuration strings in their manpages. You manage these settings via xrdb(1x). Is this at all the kind of info you wanted? Feel free to ask more questions, but we should probably continue in private email. -- Rob
Re: Dependency ordering
On 13 Apr 1997, Richard Sharman wrote: > > Manoj is outlining a specification that would be great for the above > > method. Standardized components could be tied into mc and similar > > interfaces easily. I would love to be able to hit the F3 (view) key in mc > > on a .deb file and get a nice summary of control info and status. Then hit > Emacs has a nice feature that when you do a find-file on a (possibly > gzipped) tar file you can look at the individual files. I was > thinking it would be nice to be able to do the same with a .deb > file. Maybe there exists such a thing already? I wrote one last year, called "deb-view.el". I just sent a reminder to the list this morning. In case you missed it, I'll send you another copy in a private post after I hit "send" on this mail. ...RickM...
HotJava script
Does anyone have a script to run HotJava on debian, with the jdk packages installed? I followed the instructions at www.blackdown.org, but it assumes you have the jdk in /usr/local/java and the like. I modified the script but I still get "sun/misc/RequestProcessor" class not found, and it's not in any of the classes.zip files I have (one for HotJava, one for JDK. Nor in the Windows/Netscape one either.) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust[EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au/~moffatt (PGP key here) CPOM: [ ] 40%
Re: Dependency ordering
Paul Wade writes: ... > > Manoj is outlining a specification that would be great for the above > method. Standardized components could be tied into mc and similar > interfaces easily. I would love to be able to hit the F3 (view) key in mc > on a .deb file and get a nice summary of control info and status. Then hit > the F4 (edit) or other appropriate key and get an option menu (remove, > force, upgrade, ) and act on it. > > We definitely need a new dselect, but providing a way to handle packages > from existing shells, file managers, etc. would solve a lot of the interim > problems. > Emacs has a nice feature that when you do a find-file on a (possibly gzipped) tar file you can look at the individual files. I was thinking it would be nice to be able to do the same with a .deb file. Maybe there exists such a thing already?
How to setup SCSI Iomega Zip Drive
Hi, I am trying to set up Iomega Zip Drive in the Devian 1.1 system from iConnect. My Omega Zip drive is SCSI one and I have IDE hard disk, so, I baught a Zip Zoom(SCSI card). The driver for the Iomega Zip zoom was not found in the Linux CDROM. How can I get this drivers ?. Do I need to recompile Devian 1.1 kernel to support SCSI adaptor ?. Jongmook
bo: mgetty/mgetty-fax [faxrunq]
Apologies if this is already known: If one installs the new mgetty package, faxrunq is removed with the old version of mgetty, but not reinstalled (since it is now in mgetty-fax). This would be o.k. except the old mgetty seems to install a cron job for faxrunq by default. Hence messages like the following will get sent repeatedly to anyone who installs an upgrade of mgetty without also installing mgetty-fax: --- Start of forwarded message --- Return-Path: Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 00:19:40 -0400 (EDT) From: root (Cron Daemon) To: root Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> faxrunq ... /bin/sh: faxrunq: command not found --- End of forwarded message --- Perhaps this could be adjusted in bo. Regards, John
Re: Auto updating the hardware clock on shutdown.
Perry Piplani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> man 8 clock
>
> to learn how your hardware clock is read to and written from. You can run
> it in your shutdown script.
>
> I run it from a cron script that synchronizes to a timeserver first, my
> system clock is 45 sec fast per day.
>
> Also, you can can configure your system to use GMT on your hardware clock.
> See /etc/init.d/boot
Actually I think I found what I was looking for in the shutdown man
page. It looks like I want to add the hardware clock setting to
an rc.{0,6} script.
Just out of curiosity, why did my clock get out of whack when daylight
savings changed in the first place? If my hardware clock's set to
GMT, and my timezone (US/Central) knows about the time change,
shouldn't it have been fine?
Thanks
--
Rob
Re: How to list long package names?
Hi,
Well, I do not really know of a solution, really, but seeing
that I perpetrated this problem, (and I don't want to work on my tax
return), I worked this out on the command line (who needs editors?)
Pardon me for being cryptic, but long variable names make to much of
the command line scroll off.
This does work. But the real answer is that we have to wait
for a re-written dpkg for a solution. I am sorry for any
inconvenience caused.
manoj
__> perl -e '$/="\n\n"; for (grep (/install ok install/, grep (/Package:
kernel-source/, <>))) {/Package:\s+(\S+)/ && print "$1\n";}'
/var/lib/dpkg/status
kernel-source-2.1.32
kernel-source-2.0.29
__>
--
"In the cafeteria just after lunch, (well, not *just* after, more
like *during* lunch, about 12:28; say 12:30, give or take a few
minutes), I leaned back in my chair (it was one of those aluminum
chairs, good strength-to-weight, like titanium but not quite; but
then of course titanium would be a bit of an overkill). Anyway, I
heard one of the girls talking about how boring she thought engineers
could be." Alan Denney ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Manoj Srivastava mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mobile, Alabama USAhttp://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/>
Re: 'Frozen' boot disks
I put a copy on my linux box. I got it directly from Dale's computer, which has a slow link. I've been working on configuring everything, so if there is something wrong, feel free to let me know. ftp://128.239.205.139/pub/bhmit1/ It's a 100M ethernet, so you'll get it quick, but it's turned off at night. I'll leave it on later if someone is downloading though. Enjoy, Brandon - Brandon Mitchell E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7877/home.html PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] "We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." --Linus Torvalds On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Richard L Shepherd wrote: > > Is anyone else having trouble finding the disks for 1.3? I'd appreciate > > any > > pointers. The 'bo/disks-i386/1997-04-04/' directory seems to be empty.
Re: X-Windows
>On Apr 12, Tim O'Brien wrote >>I really would like to learn a lot more about the X-Windows >Do you mean you're looking for useful applications that run in X? >You don't really use X to do work, but you can use it and a I understand that.. What I'm trying to do is become an X guru. I already program in several languages, and understand windowing systems in general. What I need is info on X configuration, use, programming, etc. for a beginner. Thanks, Tim O'Brien - LINUX 2.0.8 i486 Because reboots are for upgrades!! - Please direct Email to: tjobrien(at)traveller.com
Re: X-Windows
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim O'Brien) writes: > >> What I'm trying to do is get to where I can use X to get some actual work > >What were you interested in learning? Programming X, or user >configuration details? Both actually. First, user config details, then more about programming. I'm at a point where I understand a good deal about windowing systems in general, and programming as well. I've not had much exposure to X, and though it seems quite powerful in terms of its capabilities, the configuration/customization appears very involved. Involved, in fact, almost to the point of overwhelming. I appreciate your help! Tim O'Brien - LINUX 2.0.8 i486 Because reboots are for upgrades!! - Please direct Email to: tjobrien(at)traveller.com
Re: Auto updating the hardware clock on shutdown.
On 12 Apr 1997, Rob Browning wrote: > > I assumed that the hardware clock was always written to reflect the > current system time on shutdown. Is that true? The reason I ask is > because we just had the daylight savings switch here, and at least one > of my systems came up after a reboot with the wrong time (it was an > hour off). If the clock is not by default written at shutdown, what's > the best way to make sure that it is, an appropriate rc.d script > perhaps? > Type: man 8 clock to learn how your hardware clock is read to and written from. You can run it in your shutdown script. I run it from a cron script that synchronizes to a timeserver first, my system clock is 45 sec fast per day. Also, you can can configure your system to use GMT on your hardware clock. See /etc/init.d/boot Perry -- If red tape were nutritious, we could feed the world. Perry Piplanihttp://perrypip.netservers.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netservers.com
Re: Debian 1.3 again
Not a complete answer but ... I wouldn't recommend using /dev/modem link. This makes it more difficult to gurantee the uucp locking protocol. Use the actual device name instead. -- Jean Pierre On Sat, 12 Apr 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi again, > > It seems that the following devices are missing after the installation > from the base disks: > > /dev/mcd > /dev/mcdx > /dev/modem > > I managed to create /dev/mcdx0 and /dev/mcdx1 by typing > > mknod /dev/mcdx0 b 20 0 > mknod /dev/mcdx1 b 20 1 > > Is this correct...?? > But I don't know how to create /dev/mcd. I need mcd because mcdx won't > read the superblock...I remember that in an previous installation some > months ago only mcd worked with my CD-ROM. > Man is currently not working...because I cannot mount the cd...the mcd > is missing. > > Then I linked the modem to ttyS1...or is it vice versa?? > > ln -s ttyS1 modem > > Is this correct...??? > How do I create /dev/mcd and why are all the devices not created > automatically...?? Someone told me, that this problem would be > solved...but this was some months ago!
Striped swapping?
Long ago I used two swap-partitions with the same priority to make linux stripe the swap between the two partitions. However, the system still behaved as if the first swap-partition I mounted up had a higher priority than the second. The second hd didn't seem to do much of anything, and thing would really slow down if there was a lot of data being transferred to and from the hd with the first swap- partition on. I then installed the MD-driver and raid0'ed the two partitions together, and then used md0 as swap. This was OK with the /etc/init.d/boot too, as it mounted the md-partitions before it added swap. To me things seemed to improve quite a bit. Both hd's would now work if swapping, and high activity on first hd(my /usr-area) had lesser impact on system performance. Now the /etc/init.d/boot-file has changed to first mount swap and only much later mount the md-partitions. The comment in this file says that the striping ability of the swap code should be used instead. Some monts ago someone (possibly on the kernel list) said let the swap-code handle swapping, and the md-code disk-striping" or somesuch. I'm feeling a bit confused now. Could someone with knowledge in this matter shed some light on wheter the md-code or the striping-support in swap is best for striping swap? And in the meantime, some warning when upgrading sysvinit would be nice. My system would have ended up without any swap on the next reboot... -- Vebjorn Forsmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 13 6B 4B 7C 83 B7 DC 5C 9C A8 AE C0 AD 22 F4 2048/00952325 1995/05/13 To err is human, to forgive is Not Company Policy.
Netbios/LanManager over a ppp interface
Hello all: Can some tell me how or point me in the direction to learn how to route netbios over a ppp interface. I am using samba and have two lans connected via ppp. I would like each to be visable to each other. Each lan has a combination of Linux and Win95. Thanks in advance. Peter Iannarelli
Re: Auto updating the hardware clock on shutdown.
> I assumed that the hardware clock was always written to reflect the > current system time on shutdown. Is that true? The reason I ask is > because we just had the daylight savings switch here, and at least one > of my systems came up after a reboot with the wrong time (it was an > hour off). If the clock is not by default written at shutdown, what's > the best way to make sure that it is, an appropriate rc.d script > perhaps? Same deal here. The clock had been adjusted properly. Then, upon re-boot, the time went back to standard time. Paul Serice
Re: update-menus
I haven't had time to play with menus and pdmenus. I installed them and began using them "as is". That's a compliment. Now, whenever I install a few packages, I run update-menus as root just in case. Then I run pdmenu and restart fvwm2 to see if anything got added. It's always a joy to see new entries added automatically. That way I don't have to agonize over whether to use ae or vi to edit the config files :-) On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Joey Hess wrote: > > > I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config > > > program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change > > > things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way > > > root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Where > > > user config is allowed, it would be placed on their menus, too. > > > > > > For now, I am trying to build a list of such config commands as I > > > encounter them. > > That's a good idea (nice to see you're using my pdmenu program, btw :-) > > I'm cc'ing this to Joost, since he handles the menu package. Joost, I think > this submenu for configuration scripts should be called Apps/System/Admin > The only thing that installs an entry in there right now is taper, but I > think it is a good name for a menu of things the sysadmin can use, which > should include these *config scripts. Also, it might be useful to add > something to the README saying that the *config scripts need to go in the > menus. > > -- > See shy Jo. > +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.wtop.com/What does W.T.O.P. mean? + +--+
Re: 'Frozen' boot disks
4/6/97 I put a copy at ftp.greenbush.com, look in /pub/bodisks. The files are dated by time of transfer, but they are the 4/4 set. On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Richard L Shepherd wrote: > On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Lamar Folsom wrote: > > > Is anyone else having trouble finding the disks for 1.3? I'd appreciate > > any > > pointers. The 'bo/disks-i386/1997-04-04/' directory seems to be empty. > > I have the same problem. I had thought it may be because I mirror a > mirror (which in turn may not directly mirror ftp.debian.org) and so my > mirror was effectively a few days behind. However I just checked on > ftp.debian.org and it really is empty so > > Where are they then? > > 8<--->8 > Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 8<--->8 > +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.wtop.com/What does W.T.O.P. mean? + +--+
Re: "dselect" replacement project ("deity")
[ followups trimmed ] Leslie Mikesell: > In that case it seems like the world would be a nicer place if > you could mix-n-match things from different distributions easily. > Unfortunately it isn't all that easy. I'd like to have a system > where everything knows about shadow passwords, the ndbm emulation > uses gdbm, and a one-disk nfs installation works the first time. > > I tried several times (over NFS) and it never completed. That was > probably a month ago - perhaps it is fixed now, but I have RedHat > loaded. I'll try again on the next machine if shadow support is > available by then. What I'd really like is the ability to load > .deb's into a redhat or slackware base. Alien should be able to convert deb's to rpm's for you, if you download the latest version from unstable. Shadow support is included in unstable, btw, and will be in the next release. -- See shy Jo.
Re: update-menus
joost witteveen: > > > > I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config > > program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change > > things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way > > root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Where > > user config is allowed, it would be placed on their menus, too. > > You can run update-menus any time you want. > > But: Update-menus is more like /usr/sbin/install-info than > gpmconfig: update-menus doesn't ask the user questions. In that > respect, it isn't very usefull to run update-menus every so often > (it just takes time). I think you're misunderstanding him. He wants to see spacheconfig, etc on the debian menus. -- See shy Jo.
Re: debian in a lab
On 9 Apr 1997, Graeme Stewart wrote:
> The ideal situation, I think, would be for dselect to have an option
> where by it can be told that certain directories are NFS mounted.
> It should then do the installation as normal, but not copy files to
> these directories (or attempt to delete them upon uninstalling).
> Would that be hard to implement? I don't think so, though I never
> got farther than thinking... If one wanted to be really clever,
> one could get dselect on a client to download the server's list of
> installed packages and issue a warning if the client tried to install
> a different version of the package or a package that the server didn't
> have. I think that with those sort of changes Debian could be made
> very user friendly to NFS networks like ours.
that's a really good idea.
what is needed is a dpkg --option or wrapper script which communicates
with a specified NFS server ("ssh $SERVER dpkg --get-selections"?) and
extracts it's list of installed packages.
For packages installed on the server but not on the client, it should
install ONLY the config files & package.{pre,post}{rm,inst} scripts,
plus any files/directories NOT in NFS mounted directories (e.g. /bin,
/sbin, /var, /etc)
There should be a command line option or config file for specifying which
directories are NFS, and an exclusion list for those which aren't (to
allow for situations like /usr is NFS, /usr/local is not). Alternatively,
dpkg can simply be told to ignore errors caused by a file or directory
being read-only.
The {pre,post}inst scripts should be run at install time on the client
machine.
For packages which are on the client but not on the server, it should
run the {pre,post}rm scripts and delete files which are not on NFS
mounted disks.
this should be as automated as possible, so that when the server is
upgraded or new packages are installed it should be possible to use a for
loop wrapper around rsh or ssh or something to automatically update the
clientsbut that depends a lot on the scripts in the individual
packages.
craig
