Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Brian N. Borg
I am in fact using 2.1.36 and it seems pretty stable, a lot more so 
than 2.1.31 or 2.0.30.  All my modules load without complaining 
about missing symbols.  The only problem is that kerneld won't load 
them on demand.  

--Brian


Rick Jones wrote:
> 
> I agree.  I thought I'd seen someone using 2.1.36 but thought it was a
> typo.  I would like to see the absolute latest kernel's in unstable.
> Seems to me that's what it's for.  I seems to be used more as pre-stable
> than unstable (a subtle difference).
> 
> --Rick
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Re: deselect

1997-05-09 Thread G.V.Livingston II
  I know the ZIP drive mounts properly with "-tmsdos" so I'm not sure what 
fs it 'really' has on it.  I'm going to test mounting it with "-tvfat" 
tonight.  I do have vfat support in linux but my original problem stems 
from the fact that the home machine doesn't have Win/95 on it, so I can't 
just copy the files from the work machine to the home machine using long 
filenames unless the ZIP supports VFAT also and I copy directly to the 
linux partitions.  

   I'd still rather install from the DOS partition because I have 100+meg 
free over there.  So I guess I'd really rather know how to set up the 
'Packages' files and run deselect from a directory structure totally 
inconsistent with the original Debian mirrors.

On  9 May 97 at 17:53, Rick Jones wrote:

> 
> Did you put VFAT in the kernel so dselect can read the partition
> correctly?
> 
> On Fri, 9 May 1997, G.V.Livingston II wrote:
> 
> >   If I plan to use the deselect  program to  install packages from a 
> > mounted MSDOS partition (mounted at /e) and I have the packages in 
> > /e/linux/stable, /e/linux/contrib, & /e/linux/non-free should I edit the 
> > 'Packages" files to refelect the new path information?  Or will deselect 
> > figure it out when I do the "step by step" entry of file locations?
> > 
> > 
> >I'm going to try thie install from scratch tonight and see if I can 
> > mount the ZIP disk I'm carrying the stuff home with (ftp via T1 from work 
> > move to ZIP disks carry home) with a VFAT fs since I am using it under 
> > Win/95 at work it may work, and allow me to use long filenames.
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Re: dpkg question

1997-05-09 Thread Igor Grobman
On May 9, Ryan Shaw wrote
> Check our new domain names!
> http://www.netforward.com
> v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
> 
> in redhat there are source packages and binary packages.  one may
> download the source package and use `rpm --rebuild ' to
> build binary packages from that.  quite easy, and useful in my case. 
> the gcc that shipped with redhat didn't function correctly on my AMD K5
> so i had to recompile it and then install the locally compiled package.
> 
> is there any feature like this in dpkg/debian?  i noticed there aren't
> any source packages per se, but there were .orig.tar.gz files.
> 
> how would i accomplish what i described above with debian/dpkg?

You need to get .orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz and .dsc files.  Then type 
dpkg-source -x name-of-package.dsc

This will unpack a debianized source into a package-version directory.  cd
there and type

debian/rules binary

The .deb will be built in the dir a step above current.

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dpkg question

1997-05-09 Thread Ryan Shaw
in redhat there are source packages and binary packages.  one may
download the source package and use `rpm --rebuild ' to
build binary packages from that.  quite easy, and useful in my case. 
the gcc that shipped with redhat didn't function correctly on my AMD K5
so i had to recompile it and then install the locally compiled package.

is there any feature like this in dpkg/debian?  i noticed there aren't
any source packages per se, but there were .orig.tar.gz files.

how would i accomplish what i described above with debian/dpkg?

thanks.


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Mutt Segmentation Fault at certain messages?

1997-05-09 Thread adavis

I am using Mutt 0.61, mostly happily.  I don't understand why very
infrequently, mutt stops loading with a segmentation fault error.  In a
number of cases, I noted this happens near a message that is a notification
or warning of undeliverable mail.

Can anyone shed a clue?

Alan


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Re: deselect

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones

Did you put VFAT in the kernel so dselect can read the partition
correctly?

On Fri, 9 May 1997, G.V.Livingston II wrote:

>   If I plan to use the deselect  program to  install packages from a 
> mounted MSDOS partition (mounted at /e) and I have the packages in 
> /e/linux/stable, /e/linux/contrib, & /e/linux/non-free should I edit the 
> 'Packages" files to refelect the new path information?  Or will deselect 
> figure it out when I do the "step by step" entry of file locations?
> 
>I'm asking because a first time install of debian is having some 
> problems at the deselect stage and I *HAVE* edited the Packages files to 
> say "msdos-filename: /e/linux/stable/xxx.deb".  I used this method 
> because the debian ftp distribution uses a directory name that is not DOS 
> legal for the MSDOS named binaries (/msdos-i386  -- 10 characters).  I 
> find that quite interesting as it seems that care was taken to keep all of 
> the internal directory names at 8 characters or less, as well as the 
> parent directories (eg. /linux/stable/msdos-i386/elctrncs is DOS legal 
> except for the 'msdos-i386' part).
> 
>I'm going to try thie install from scratch tonight and see if I can 
> mount the ZIP disk I'm carrying the stuff home with (ftp via T1 from work 
> move to ZIP disks carry home) with a VFAT fs since I am using it under 
> Win/95 at work it may work, and allow me to use long filenames.
> 
>Any help if I'm stuck with FAT appreciated though.
> Gerald V. Livingston II
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Re: Backspace in rxvt SOLVED

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> Rick Jones wrote:
> No, you want Delete to "do" backspace. When you hit the delete key
> the x client (in this case rxvt) receives the Keysym, which is
> Delete.
> > 
> > My backspace does what it should but delete just beeps at me.
> 
> You put my above resource string ("Rxvt.keysym.0xFFF: \b") into your
> ~/.Xresources or ~/.Xdefaults file? Are you sure you have version
> 2.18-5? The important change to the source which enabled this was
> made in debian rev 5.

I have 2.20-3 and no I haven't modified my resouces.

Why would you want delete to do backspace instead of delete?

Does this come in handy for some program?

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problem with "halt" command to shutdown

1997-05-09 Thread Dany Dionne
Hi,
i used the "halt" command to shutdown my linux box and i receive a 
message like: "unable to find the runlevel, using hard halt"
After that, my computer was totally frozen. So, i used the reset to reboot
my computer. My partition appear wasn't properly unmounted and a check was
needed. Fortunalety, all my partitions was ok.
Any one can help me to correct my halt command? Every time i used this
command before, everything was done properly.

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Re: Log-in prompt question

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Dirk Bernhardt wrote:

> > Lu Jimmy Chenji writes:
> 
> > Can someone tell me how to put a word before the Log-in prompt?
  


Maybe I just fell off the turnip truck or something, but doesn't the
~/.profile get read AFTER the login?!?  How can it know who's about to
login to put the right text in?

> If you use `bash' as your shell of choice, check out the PS1 environment
> variable.  Mine is currently set to "[\h] \w\$".  Check out /etc/profile or
> ~/.profile or... to find out where it's set.



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deselect

1997-05-09 Thread G.V.Livingston II
  If I plan to use the deselect  program to  install packages from a 
mounted MSDOS partition (mounted at /e) and I have the packages in 
/e/linux/stable, /e/linux/contrib, & /e/linux/non-free should I edit the 
'Packages" files to refelect the new path information?  Or will deselect 
figure it out when I do the "step by step" entry of file locations?

   I'm asking because a first time install of debian is having some 
problems at the deselect stage and I *HAVE* edited the Packages files to 
say "msdos-filename: /e/linux/stable/xxx.deb".  I used this method 
because the debian ftp distribution uses a directory name that is not DOS 
legal for the MSDOS named binaries (/msdos-i386  -- 10 characters).  I 
find that quite interesting as it seems that care was taken to keep all of 
the internal directory names at 8 characters or less, as well as the 
parent directories (eg. /linux/stable/msdos-i386/elctrncs is DOS legal 
except for the 'msdos-i386' part).

   I'm going to try thie install from scratch tonight and see if I can 
mount the ZIP disk I'm carrying the stuff home with (ftp via T1 from work 
move to ZIP disks carry home) with a VFAT fs since I am using it under 
Win/95 at work it may work, and allow me to use long filenames.

   Any help if I'm stuck with FAT appreciated though.
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Re: Another Netscape Question

1997-05-09 Thread Ralph Winslow
Jim Smith wrote:
> 
> Does Netscape (4.0b3) hog the colormap on everyone's system or just
> mine? Have they not heard of sharing? Is there a fix for this, I would
> like to see colored screensavers when netscape is running among other
> things.

Nope, it hogs the colormap for me, too.  I don't like to exit from
Netscape
because it comes up with a huge screen which I always reposition in the
top
left corner and shrink to fill my visible screen.  Eventually all other
color
apps look like crap.

> I'm running X11R6 in 1024 x 768 24bpp, Linux 2.0.30, Cirrus clgd5426.
> 
> Jim
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Re: Backspace in rxvt SOLVED

1997-05-09 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Rick Jones wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 9 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
> 
> > A little digging around shows that setting the proper resources for
> > rxvt should fix this. Here's an excerpt from the man page Resources
> > section:
> >
> >keysym.sym: string
> >   Associate string with keysym sym (0xFF00 - 0x).
> >   It may contain escape values  (\b:  backspace,  \e,
> >   \E: escape, \n: newline, \r: return, \t: tab, \000:
> >   octal number) and may enclosed with  double  quotes
> >   so  that  it can start or end with whitespace.  The
> >   intervening resource name keysym.  cannot be  omit­
> >   ted.  This resource is only available when compiled
> >   with FAKE_RESOURCES.
> >
> > So, putting the following line in ~/.Xresources should do it
> > (assuming /etc/X11/config has the line 'allow-user-resources'):
> >
> > Rxvt.keysym.Delete: \b
> 
> Should this be Rxvt.keysym.Backspace: \b ?

No, you want Delete to "do" backspace. When you hit the delete key
the x client (in this case rxvt) receives the Keysym, which is
Delete.
 
> >
> > I did this and what do you know, it didn't work. I will say that
> > after using xterm exclusively for so long, I was please to see that
> > *colors* worked Out Of The Box with rxvt (cool!). I can only assume
> > from this exercise that the maintainer of rxvt didn't compile the
> > package with FAKE_RESOURCES. However, /usr/doc/rxvt/changelog.debian.gz
> > shows:
> >
> > rxvt (2.18-5) unstable; urgency=low
> >
> >   * Enabled FAKE_RESOURCES and KEYSYM_RESOURCE
> >
> >  -- Brian Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:50:19 -0400
> >
> > So he *did* make this change. How come it doesn't seem to work then?!
> > Being the curious type I had to see it to believe it, so I downloaded
> > the source and YUP, he did make this change (sorry for doubting you
> > Brian). So I went into the source that actually *reads* these resources
> > and here's what I find (*much* to my chagrin). The "fake" xresources
> > reading which rxvt does can't understand symbolic keysyms (so what's
> > the "sym" for, huh?). It can only understand the hex-numeric value
> > of the keysym. The solution is to put the following line in your
> > ..Xresources:
> >
> > Rxvt.keysym.0x: \b
> >
> > That's it. For the likewise curious, I found the Delete keysym's value
> > in the source itself for rxvt (xdefaults.c):
> >
> > /*
> >  * look for something like this (XK_Delete)
> >  * rxvt*keysym.0x: "\177"
> >  */
> > # ifdef KEYSYM_RESOURCE
> > n = strlen ("keysym");
> > if ((str [n] == '.') && !strncmp (str, "keysym", n))
> >   {
> >
> > You can find all the numeric values of keysyms (if you have the X11
> > source--and this is why I object to rxvt only taking the numeric
> > values) in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/keysymdef.h. I hope I've redeemed
> > myself for my earlier misinformation. mea culpa.
> 
> My backspace does what it should but delete just beeps at me.

You put my above resource string ("Rxvt.keysym.0xFFF: \b") into your
~/.Xresources or ~/.Xdefaults file? Are you sure you have version
2.18-5? The important change to the source which enabled this was
made in debian rev 5.
 
> What does mea culpa mean?

Latin: my fault
 
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Re: Log-in prompt question

1997-05-09 Thread Ralph Winslow
Lu Jimmy Chenji wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> Can someone tell me how to put a word before the Log-in prompt?
> E.g. Mypcname:# or Mypcname:$.  I know there a lot of fancy
> things I can do.  Is there a HOWTO I can look?
> Thanks in advance,
> Jimmy

I don't know that there's a HOWTO, but you can set the environment
variable PS1 to any string you like (including some dynamic things like
the current directory) and that changes your prompt.  In bash/sh/ksh the
command:

 PS1="`hostname`:$ "

should do what you want - there are about a bazillion variations on this
theme.  My prompt is:

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prompt that takes up at least 1/3 of the screen and more if he's far
down some directory tree.  Yuck!
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Re: dselect and updating the system

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
On Sat, 10 May 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:

> Gernot wrote:
> > 
> > When I start dselect (using the ftp-method) I get a list of available
> > "Updated Standard packages". This list tells me that there are new
> > versions of my installed components available, they are marked with the
> > asterix (*) but they are not installed when I try to install them
> > (selection 3 in dselect). Is this the way the whole thing should work or
> > am I missing something?
> > 
> 
> Occasionally, I have this problem and I simply wrote down the packages
> and install
> them using dpkg manually :)

This will work if the packages are reported missing during install.  I got
the idea he was sayin they don't even show up for install which is a
problem, I think.

Try using " G" or ":" in select on the line that says Updated
packages etc...  That is the upgrade/unhold command.

If they are coming up missing during install it means the file names are
off.  Usually a new version has replaced the one in the package list
making the name "somepkg.1.0.1-2" wrong because it's now named 
"somepkg.1.0.1-3".  In which case you do have to d/l them manually.

Hope this helps.



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Re: DNS question

1997-05-09 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Rick Jones wrote:
> 
> I think I know the answer to this already, BUT is it possible to run a
> secondary DNS through an IP masq firewall?
> 
> Just wondering since I'm about to network my home systems via an IP masq
> firewall and would rather use one of my other systems as secondary.
> 
> I haven't researched IP masq firewalling yet.  Is this the BEST way to put
> a machine on the net without it's own IP?

Well, I prefer socks because you can do more with it and you have
more control, but I know there are a lot of people out there who
will argue the point with me.

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Re: Debian at Home

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:

> On Fri, 9 May 1997, Matthew Tebbens wrote:
> 
> > I assume that dial-up ppp can still be configured after I answer 'no'
> > to the network question ?
> 
> I've set up many such systems, but off the top of my head, I'm not 100% 
> sure.  I believe it goes as follows:  Answer 'yes' to the general network 
> connection, then answer 'no' to the question of whether you have a 
> continuous (i.e. ethernet) connection.  Then, as best you can, fill in 
> info about IP address, gateway, DNS, netmask, machine name, domain name, 
> based on information about your ISP.  If your ISP uses dynamic IP, then 
> just make up an IP address.  Putting more than one DNS address used to 
> cause a problem--I think it must have been fixed though.  BTW, a lot of 
> this info might be in the Install doc in the disks directory at your ftp 
> site.

Much of this won't even be asked during the install.  Just don't install
named (DNS,bind) or it will want to be configured and it sounds like you
don't need it anyway.

Just make your machine a forward only machine.  It will be asked during
the install.

Then setup your /etc/ppp.chatscript and /etc/ppp.options_out to dial the
right number, give the right uname and passwd, and use the right port to
access the modem.  Type pon and it should connect.

Hostname and nameservers must be set for a dial-up connection.
/etc/hostname and /etc/resolve.conf. Also set "hosts bind" in
/etc/hosts.conf

Most of this will be setup during the initial install via a script.

If you get stuck use "man" to read the man pages.  (i.e. man man shows the
man page on man command.  man bind shows the page on bind)

> > On Fri, 9 May 1997 10:38:33 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
> > >On Fri, 9 May 1997, dcypher wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would like to install Debian on a system I have at home.
> > >> Are there any packages that should not be installed when
> > >> I install Debian ?  I'm thinking that some packages might
> > >> require DNS services or other services, and would hang
> > >> Debian if the services were not found.
> > >> I guess my question is: Can Debian be installed 'out-of-the-box'
> > >> on a system that is not connected to any network, or do I have
> > >> to pull some packages ? 
> > >> (disregarding the access to the packages)
> > >
> > >Debian can be installed on an isolated machine without any (additional) 
> > >problems.  During the "configure the network" step, you will be asked if 
> > >your system is connected to a network.  Simply answer "no" and proceed.
> 
> Syrus.
> 
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Re: Debian at Home

1997-05-09 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Matthew" == Matthew Tebbens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Matthew> I assume that dial-up ppp can still be configured after I
Matthew> answer 'no' to the network question ?

 I found that you can get ppp working by simply editting the
"/etc/ppp.chatscript", using `ae` (Anthony's Editor), filling in your
provider's modem number, your login, and password, and then typing
`pon` to bring the link up, and `poff` to shut it down again.  It is
possible to use `dselect`'s ftp method this way.  (then install diald.)

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Re: Backspace in rxvt SOLVED

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> A little digging around shows that setting the proper resources for
> rxvt should fix this. Here's an excerpt from the man page Resources
> section:
> 
>keysym.sym: string
>   Associate string with keysym sym (0xFF00 - 0x).
>   It may contain escape values  (\b:  backspace,  \e,
>   \E: escape, \n: newline, \r: return, \t: tab, \000:
>   octal number) and may enclosed with  double  quotes
>   so  that  it can start or end with whitespace.  The
>   intervening resource name keysym.  cannot be  omit­
>   ted.  This resource is only available when compiled
>   with FAKE_RESOURCES.
> 
> So, putting the following line in ~/.Xresources should do it 
> (assuming /etc/X11/config has the line 'allow-user-resources'):
> 
> Rxvt.keysym.Delete: \b

Should this be Rxvt.keysym.Backspace: \b ?

> 
> I did this and what do you know, it didn't work. I will say that 
> after using xterm exclusively for so long, I was please to see that
> *colors* worked Out Of The Box with rxvt (cool!). I can only assume
> from this exercise that the maintainer of rxvt didn't compile the
> package with FAKE_RESOURCES. However, /usr/doc/rxvt/changelog.debian.gz
> shows:
> 
> rxvt (2.18-5) unstable; urgency=low
> 
>   * Enabled FAKE_RESOURCES and KEYSYM_RESOURCE
> 
>  -- Brian Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:50:19 -0400
> 
> So he *did* make this change. How come it doesn't seem to work then?!
> Being the curious type I had to see it to believe it, so I downloaded
> the source and YUP, he did make this change (sorry for doubting you
> Brian). So I went into the source that actually *reads* these resources
> and here's what I find (*much* to my chagrin). The "fake" xresources
> reading which rxvt does can't understand symbolic keysyms (so what's
> the "sym" for, huh?). It can only understand the hex-numeric value
> of the keysym. The solution is to put the following line in your
> ..Xresources:
> 
> Rxvt.keysym.0x: \b
> 
> That's it. For the likewise curious, I found the Delete keysym's value
> in the source itself for rxvt (xdefaults.c):
> 
> /*
>  * look for something like this (XK_Delete)
>  * rxvt*keysym.0x: "\177"
>  */
> # ifdef KEYSYM_RESOURCE
> n = strlen ("keysym");
> if ((str [n] == '.') && !strncmp (str, "keysym", n))
>   {
> 
> You can find all the numeric values of keysyms (if you have the X11
> source--and this is why I object to rxvt only taking the numeric
> values) in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/keysymdef.h. I hope I've redeemed
> myself for my earlier misinformation. mea culpa.


My backspace does what it should but delete just beeps at me.

What does mea culpa mean?


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A note on dpkg release engineering

1997-05-09 Thread Klee Dienes

[ I posted this to debian-devel a few minutes ago, and just realized I
  should have sent it to debian-user as well.  My apologies to those
  of you who are seeing it twice. ]

I'd like to thank all of the people who have been downloading and
testing the versions of dpkg I have been uploading to 'experimental'.
I appreciate your time and effort in helping me debug and test the new
versions.

However, given that this number of people is much greater than I had
expected, I should re-iterate a warning: the versions of dpkg I put in
'experimental' should be considered of alpha-quality only, and are
frequently uploaded with little or no testing on my part.  I use
'experimental' as a snapshot directory, primarily for the benefit of
people who are coordinating with me on dpkg development.

I welcome people to run the versions of dpkg from 'experimental', and
welcome any feedback they can give me --- I just want to make sure
everyone knows that little or no release engineering is being done on
those versions, and that they run them at their own risk.

Once 'bo' is released, I will be making somewhat more stable releases
of dpkg on a moderately frequent basis to 'hamm' for more widespread
testing.

Thanks,
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Re: Unidentified subject!

1997-05-09 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 9 May 1997, it was written:

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Re: Another Netscape Question

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Brian White wrote:

> > Does Netscape (4.0b3) hog the colormap on everyone's system or just
> > mine? Have they not heard of sharing? Is there a fix for this, I would
> > like to see colored screensavers when netscape is running among other
> > things.
> > I'm running X11R6 in 1024 x 768 24bpp, Linux 2.0.30, Cirrus clgd5426.
> 
> Try giving it the "-ncols" option.  I use "-ncols 64" and find images still
> look quite good.  I find with that, fvwm2, and a few other apps that I still
> have 120-128 colormap entries free.


Maybe "-ncols 256" since netscape only uses gif images and you have 24
bpp?


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Re: motherboard

1997-05-09 Thread Richard Morin
On Fri, 9 May 1997, John Maheu wrote:

> Hi all: 
> 
> I'm in the market for a new motherboard. I want to run a P100 and
> eventually a P166. Any suggestions? What about Gigabyte?
> 
> thanks
> John
> 

Hi John, I have a Gigabyte GA 586 ATE here.  I suppose it is kinda dated
now, being over a year old and all...;-)

The nicest thing I've found so far about this MB is the pnp bios.  It was
able to handle my pnp sound card without any fuss I see others go through.
I like the three banks for memory too.  Keep those old simms around a
little longer before trading in.

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Re: Another Netscape Question

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones

This would be "-install" which makes it use it's own color map.

On Fri, 9 May 1997, Rick Rutledge wrote:

> I have not tried the new version of netscape but the old version was less
> than gentle with the color maps.  Check the docs for a command line switch
> that tells netscape to go into a color map sharing mode.  I dont remember
> what it is or where I put the sticky note but I know that it can be done.
> The result is that while the netscape window is active the rest of your
> screen will be smashed and when the main window is active netscapes window
> will be smashed.  Hope this helps.
> 
>   Rick.
> 
> On Thu, 8 May 1997, Jim Smith wrote:
> 
> > Does Netscape (4.0b3) hog the colormap on everyone's system or just
> > mine? Have they not heard of sharing? Is there a fix for this, I would
> > like to see colored screensavers when netscape is running among other
> > things.
> > I'm running X11R6 in 1024 x 768 24bpp, Linux 2.0.30, Cirrus clgd5426.
> > 
> > Jim
> > -- 
> > 
> > Debian Linux! Where I REALLY went today!
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DNS question

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
I think I know the answer to this already, BUT is it possible to run a
secondary DNS through an IP masq firewall?

Just wondering since I'm about to network my home systems via an IP masq
firewall and would rather use one of my other systems as secondary.

I haven't researched IP masq firewalling yet.  Is this the BEST way to put
a machine on the net without it's own IP?



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Re: sysklogd dumps core

1997-05-09 Thread Victor Torrico
Victor Torrico wrote:
> 
> Alex Romosan wrote:
> >
> > i think the problem is with the latest dpkg packages (1.4.0.14). i've
> > downgraded to 1.4.0.8 from unstable and it works fine. it seemed to
> > have worked fine up until 1.4.0.13 but i could be wrong.
> >
> > --alex--
> >
> 
> You hit the nail on the head and fixed my problem.  I was using dpkg
> (1.4.0.14) and this was causing the problem.  I purged and reinstalled
> sysklogd (-15 package) using dpkg (1.4.0.8) and all was well. No more
> core dumps and segmentation faults.  Thanks bunches!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Victor
> 

The new dpkg (1.4.0.15) seems to have corrected the problem.  sysklogd
package works fine now after I purged and reinstalled it using dpkg
(1.4.0.15). Haven't used all the functions of this new dpkg yet so don't
know how well it works.

Victor


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su vs. su - -- ignore

1997-05-09 Thread Colin Telmer
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Sorry, I stupidly did not check if DISPLAY was set (which is wasn't) when
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Re: motherboard

1997-05-09 Thread System Account
Hi John,

I have just built my own system. The mainboard i bought is a Tyan 
S1563D Tomcat IIID. I got the duel but there is also a single one. you can
use a 75-200 MHz processor in it. the chipset is Intel 430HX. For slots it
has 4 32-bit PCI and 5 16-bit ISA. It works great and can be found in the
190.00 - 220.00 cost range. Tyan's URL is http://www.tyan.com for more
info.

-Rob 

On Fri, 9 May 1997, John Maheu wrote:

> Hi all: 
> 
> I'm in the market for a new motherboard. I want to run a P100 and
> eventually a P166. Any suggestions? What about Gigabyte?
> 
> thanks
> John
> 
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Re: chmod 640 and not 644 /var/log/messages*

1997-05-09 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
 In the global /etc/profile or in the "personal" ~/.bash_profile
put (or change its arg from the usual 022 value) the command: 
 umask 027

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On Fri, 9 May 1997, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

> How can I configure my box to chmod o-r the files:
> 
> /var/log/messages*
> 
> ?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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su vs. su -

1997-05-09 Thread Colin Telmer
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run emacs in either the foreground or the background (ie. "emacs" or
"emacs &"). However, when I use "su -" rather than "su" I can only run
emacs in the foreground. What can I do to get it to run in the background
as well? I don't know what extra information I should supply except that
as telmerco I set xhost +terrapin so that root can display on a X server
owned by telmerco. Cheers, Colin.

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motherboard

1997-05-09 Thread John Maheu
Hi all: 

I'm in the market for a new motherboard. I want to run a P100 and
eventually a P166. Any suggestions? What about Gigabyte?

thanks
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Re: Debian at Home

1997-05-09 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Matthew Tebbens wrote:

> I assume that dial-up ppp can still be configured after I answer 'no'
> to the network question ?

I've set up many such systems, but off the top of my head, I'm not 100% 
sure.  I believe it goes as follows:  Answer 'yes' to the general network 
connection, then answer 'no' to the question of whether you have a 
continuous (i.e. ethernet) connection.  Then, as best you can, fill in 
info about IP address, gateway, DNS, netmask, machine name, domain name, 
based on information about your ISP.  If your ISP uses dynamic IP, then 
just make up an IP address.  Putting more than one DNS address used to 
cause a problem--I think it must have been fixed though.  BTW, a lot of 
this info might be in the Install doc in the disks directory at your ftp 
site.

Also, I didn't mention this before, but don't worry about installing the 
default packages, they won't break your system even if it is isolated.  
However, I don't know about all the 1000+ packages because I just use a 
subset of them.  I always "deselect" the news-related packages before 
installing on a home machine because I have no interest having direct 
usenet access from a relatively isolated machine.

> On Fri, 9 May 1997 10:38:33 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
> >On Fri, 9 May 1997, dcypher wrote:
> >
> >> I would like to install Debian on a system I have at home.
> >> Are there any packages that should not be installed when
> >> I install Debian ?  I'm thinking that some packages might
> >> require DNS services or other services, and would hang
> >> Debian if the services were not found.
> >> I guess my question is: Can Debian be installed 'out-of-the-box'
> >> on a system that is not connected to any network, or do I have
> >> to pull some packages ? 
> >> (disregarding the access to the packages)
> >
> >Debian can be installed on an isolated machine without any (additional) 
> >problems.  During the "configure the network" step, you will be asked if 
> >your system is connected to a network.  Simply answer "no" and proceed.

Syrus.

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Re: Linuxthreads and MySQL

1997-05-09 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Dirk Herr-Hoyman, you wrote:
> 
> And since we are on the subject of MySQL...
> 
> I'm trying to install directly from the source distribution at www.tcx.se.
> This version want Linuxthreads and I'm not quite clear on what I need to
> install.

You can get linuxthreads from the web site, or install the debian
'pthreads' package.

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Re: Debian at Home

1997-05-09 Thread Matthew Tebbens
I assume that dial-up ppp can still be configured after I answer 'no'
to the network question ?

Matthew

On Fri, 9 May 1997 10:38:33 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>On Fri, 9 May 1997, dcypher wrote:
>
>> I would like to install Debian on a system I have at home.
>> Are there any packages that should not be installed when
>> I install Debian ?  I'm thinking that some packages might
>> require DNS services or other services, and would hang
>> Debian if the services were not found.
>> I guess my question is: Can Debian be installed 'out-of-the-box'
>> on a system that is not connected to any network, or do I have
>> to pull some packages ? 
>> (disregarding the access to the packages)
>
>Debian can be installed on an isolated machine without any (additional) 
>problems.  During the "configure the network" step, you will be asked if 
>your system is connected to a network.  Simply answer "no" and proceed.
>
>Syrus.
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laptop advice

1997-05-09 Thread David Perkinson
Hi,

I am new to this list.  I apologize in advance for asking a question
that is probably fairly common.

I will buy a laptop sometime soon and would like it to run X windows
under Debian Linux.  I am trying to set up something that is as much
like the sun sparc 2 I have at work as possible (but spend around
$3000!).  The programs that I use the most are emacs, TeX, and various
technical math programs, usually shareware things written in C, but I
will probably also run Maple.  I program in perl and C.  If anyone out
there has an opinion about which laptop to get and where I would
greatly appreciate advice.

Thanks,
Dave


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Mutt and aliases

1997-05-09 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Hi, 
I have been trying to get mutt to recognise the aliases but after quitting,
even thought it has saved them, it doesn't re-read the file because I can't
use them.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Linuxthreads and MySQL

1997-05-09 Thread Dirk Herr-Hoyman
And since we are on the subject of MySQL...

I'm trying to install directly from the source distribution at www.tcx.se.
This version want Linuxthreads and I'm not quite clear on what I need to
install.

>From MySQL configure:

checking LinuxThreads... Not found
configure: error: This is a linux system and Linuxthreads was not
found. On linux Linuxthreads should be used. So install Linuxthreads
and try again.
Exit 1

from the INSTALL-SOURCE:

=
LINUX notes:

LinuxThreads should be installed before configuring MySQL.
If you get an any error related to mysql_source/mit_threads/...
^^^ 
then configure didn't detect that you have LinuxThreads installed.

You should install libc 5.4.12 or newer before compiling MySQL.
glibc 2.0.2 should also work.

=

the libc we have:

danenet:/usr/local/src/mysql-3.20.18-gamma> whereis libc
libc: /lib/libc.so.5 /lib/libc.so.4.6.27 /lib/libc.so.4 /lib/libc.so.5.4.20
/usr/l
ib/libc.so /usr/lib/libc.a

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ftp dselect for unstable/non-free

1997-05-09 Thread Douglas Bates
Recently Tim Sailer mentioned that the mysql package is in hamm.  When
I ran dselect from ftp.debian.org using the ftp method I did not see
any trace of it.  I then looked a bit more closely and discovered that
it was in hamm/non-free.  

If I want to see the development versions of the non-free packages
listed in dselect instead of the stable versions what do I specify for
the debian directory and for the list of distributions? I tried a
couple of combinations such as the one below but with no joy.  Either
a Packages file is not available or the name under which a package is
being selected is off by one directory.

I enclose a sample run.

BTW, since this is an important piece of software for the Debian
release I will take the liberty of suggesting a spelling correction in
this output.  It should be "space separated", not "space seperated".
Some (human) editors would even insist upon "space-separated list" but
that may be getting too pedantic.

 Enter debian directory [/debian/hamm]: /debian

 Note: order here is important.  Package files are scanned in order so
 later distributions will override earlier ones.

 So put stable before unstable.

 Enter space seperated list of distributions to get
 [non-free contrib hamm]: hamm

 Enter directory to download binary package files to
 (relative to /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/)
 [debian]:

 Using FTP to check directories...(stop with ^C)

 Connecting to ftp.debian.org...
 Login as anonymous...
 Setting transfer mode to binary...
 Cd to /debian...
 Checking hamm/binary-i386...
 Warning: Couldn't find a Packages file in hamm/binary-i386
 This may not be a problem if the directory is a symbolic link
 Closing ftp connection...
 press return to continue 


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Re: Debian at Home

1997-05-09 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Fri, 9 May 1997, dcypher wrote:

> I would like to install Debian on a system I have at home.
> Are there any packages that should not be installed when
> I install Debian ?  I'm thinking that some packages might
> require DNS services or other services, and would hang
> Debian if the services were not found.
> I guess my question is: Can Debian be installed 'out-of-the-box'
> on a system that is not connected to any network, or do I have
> to pull some packages ? 
> (disregarding the access to the packages)

Debian can be installed on an isolated machine without any (additional) 
problems.  During the "configure the network" step, you will be asked if 
your system is connected to a network.  Simply answer "no" and proceed.

Syrus.

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Debian at Home

1997-05-09 Thread dcypher
I would like to install Debian on a system I have at home.
Are there any packages that should not be installed when
I install Debian ?  I'm thinking that some packages might
require DNS services or other services, and would hang
Debian if the services were not found.
I guess my question is: Can Debian be installed 'out-of-the-box'
on a system that is not connected to any network, or do I have
to pull some packages ? 
(disregarding the access to the packages)

Thanks,
Matthew


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Re: mailcap 'view' type conflicts

1997-05-09 Thread Bill Wohler
Brian K Servis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think the maintainers of xv, xanim, imagemagick, etc. need to agree
> on the description fields that go in the mailcap file.

  A hearty second!  I am so sick of xv and xanim continuously toggling
  this field needlessly.  Installations would go a lot faster if they
  could just get along!

  Also, when setting the "priority," the package should use the current
  order in the mailcap file as the default.

Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: sysklogd dumps core

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Alex Romosan wrote:

> i think the problem is with the latest dpkg packages (1.4.0.14). i've
> downgraded to 1.4.0.8 from unstable and it works fine. it seemed to
> have worked fine up until 1.4.0.13 but i could be wrong.

Along these lines, does anybody know why syslogd in package 1.3-15 takes
so long to start?  Is this a bug or added functionality making it take
longer?  If a bug, is it fixed?

Also.  The version for this package is 1.3-15. Is this the syslogd
version, the klogd version, are both concurrent, or is this a dpkg
version?


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Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 9 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>It's practically a moot point now with bo so close to release, but
> in the future perhaps it would make sense to include the latest and
> greatest (and thus presumably the most stable) 2.0 kernel in the stable
> distribution, and the latest 2.1 kernel in the unstable distribution?

I agree.  I thought I'd seen someone using 2.1.36 but thought it was a
typo.  I would like to see the absolute latest kernel's in unstable.
Seems to me that's what it's for.  I seems to be used more as pre-stable
than unstable (a subtle difference).


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Re: Backspace in rxvt SOLVED

1997-05-09 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Andreas Tille wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 7 May 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> 
> > > "Jens" == Jens B Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Jens> If typing Backspace on the shell command line prints "^H"
> > Jens> rather than doing a backspace, type the command "stty erase
> > Jens> ^h" (make sure you type "^" and "h", not CTRL-h. Note that
> > Jens> this only changes the current shell (terminal) so you'll
> > Jens> probably want to put it in your .profile.
> >
> >  I have the same problem--- in an `rxvt`, <-Backspace prints a '~', so
> > I have to use C-h to backwards-delete-char.  `stty` doesn't effect it
> > at all, as far as I can tell.  I think it's a bug in `rxvt`.
> No matter if I follow the hint of Jens (stty erase ^h) or not
> 
> does the job I expect of  (delete under cursor)
> does: ~
> 
> It is really a bug of rxvt? (As I mentioned xterm works OK)
> 

A little digging around shows that setting the proper resources for
rxvt should fix this. Here's an excerpt from the man page Resources
section:

   keysym.sym: string
  Associate string with keysym sym (0xFF00 - 0x).
  It may contain escape values  (\b:  backspace,  \e,
  \E: escape, \n: newline, \r: return, \t: tab, \000:
  octal number) and may enclosed with  double  quotes
  so  that  it can start or end with whitespace.  The
  intervening resource name keysym.  cannot be  omit­
  ted.  This resource is only available when compiled
  with FAKE_RESOURCES.

So, putting the following line in ~/.Xresources should do it 
(assuming /etc/X11/config has the line 'allow-user-resources'):

Rxvt.keysym.Delete: \b

I did this and what do you know, it didn't work. I will say that 
after using xterm exclusively for so long, I was please to see that
*colors* worked Out Of The Box with rxvt (cool!). I can only assume
from this exercise that the maintainer of rxvt didn't compile the
package with FAKE_RESOURCES. However, /usr/doc/rxvt/changelog.debian.gz
shows:

rxvt (2.18-5) unstable; urgency=low

  * Enabled FAKE_RESOURCES and KEYSYM_RESOURCE

 -- Brian Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:50:19 -0400

So he *did* make this change. How come it doesn't seem to work then?!
Being the curious type I had to see it to believe it, so I downloaded
the source and YUP, he did make this change (sorry for doubting you
Brian). So I went into the source that actually *reads* these resources
and here's what I find (*much* to my chagrin). The "fake" xresources
reading which rxvt does can't understand symbolic keysyms (so what's
the "sym" for, huh?). It can only understand the hex-numeric value
of the keysym. The solution is to put the following line in your
.Xresources:

Rxvt.keysym.0x: \b

That's it. For the likewise curious, I found the Delete keysym's value
in the source itself for rxvt (xdefaults.c):

/*
 * look for something like this (XK_Delete)
 * rxvt*keysym.0x: "\177"
 */
# ifdef KEYSYM_RESOURCE
n = strlen ("keysym");
if ((str [n] == '.') && !strncmp (str, "keysym", n))
  {

You can find all the numeric values of keysyms (if you have the X11
source--and this is why I object to rxvt only taking the numeric
values) in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/keysymdef.h. I hope I've redeemed
myself for my earlier misinformation. mea culpa.

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Re: Log-in prompt question

1997-05-09 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Kevin Traas wrote:
> 
> > > Can someone tell me how to put a word before the Log-in prompt?
> > > E.g. Mypcname:# or Mypcname:$.  I know there a lot of fancy
> > > things I can do.  Is there a HOWTO I can look?
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Jimmy
> >
> > That goes in the /etc/issue file.  You can find the commands in the getty
> > man page.
> 
> I think the original question was worded a bit wrong  From the
> question, he may have been actually looking for command prompt settings -
> not login prompt.
> 
> Anyway, if so then, to set your command prompt to read "systemname#", put
> the following into your .bash_profile:
> 
> PS1="\\h\\$ "
> 
> Hope this helps,

Or, to be *completely* explicit about all you can do, I quote from the
bash manpage:

PROMPTING
   When  executing  interactively,  bash displays the primary
   prompt PS1 when it is ready to read  a  command,  and  the
   secondary  prompt PS2 when it needs more input to complete
   a command.  Bash allows these prompt strings  to  be  cus­
   tomized by inserting a number of backslash-escaped special
   characters that are decoded as follows:
  \t the current time in HH:MM:SS format
  \d the date  in  "Weekday  Month  Date"  format
 (e.g., "Tue May 26")
  \n newline
  \s the  name  of  the shell, the basename of $0
 (the portion following the final slash)
  \w the current working directory
  \W the basename of the current  working  direc­
 tory
  \u the username of the current user
  \h the hostname
  \# the command number of this command
  \! the history number of this command
  \$ if  the effective UID is 0, a #, otherwise a
 $
  \nnn   the character  corresponding  to  the  octal
 number nnn
  \\ a backslash
  \[ begin a sequence of non-printing characters,
 which could be used to embed a terminal con­
 trol sequence into the prompt
  \] end a sequence of non-printing characters

   The command number and the history number are usually dif­
   ferent: the history number of a command is its position in
   the history list, which may include commands restored from
   the history file (see HISTORY below),  while  the  command
   number  is  the  position in the sequence of commands exe­
   cuted during the current shell session.  After the  string
   is  decoded,  it is expanded via parameter expansion, com­
   mand substitution, arithmetic expansion, and  word  split­
   ting.

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Re: Another Netscape Question

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Rutledge
I have not tried the new version of netscape but the old version was less
than gentle with the color maps.  Check the docs for a command line switch
that tells netscape to go into a color map sharing mode.  I dont remember
what it is or where I put the sticky note but I know that it can be done.
The result is that while the netscape window is active the rest of your
screen will be smashed and when the main window is active netscapes window
will be smashed.  Hope this helps.

Rick.

On Thu, 8 May 1997, Jim Smith wrote:

> Does Netscape (4.0b3) hog the colormap on everyone's system or just
> mine? Have they not heard of sharing? Is there a fix for this, I would
> like to see colored screensavers when netscape is running among other
> things.
> I'm running X11R6 in 1024 x 768 24bpp, Linux 2.0.30, Cirrus clgd5426.
> 
> Jim
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Re: Log-in prompt question

1997-05-09 Thread JoKeR
Instead of putting '\h' use the word you would like ex:

PS1='vader :\w\$'


JoKeR

On Fri, 9 May 1997, Dirk Bernhardt wrote:

> > Lu Jimmy Chenji writes:
> 
> > Can someone tell me how to put a word before the Log-in prompt?
> 
> If you use `bash' as your shell of choice, check out the PS1 environment
> variable.  Mine is currently set to "[\h] \w\$".  Check out /etc/profile or
> ~/.profile or... to find out where it's set.
> 
> Ciao,
> - Krid -
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Re: debian-non-us archive

1997-05-09 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
On May 9, Camm Maguire wrote
: Greetings!  Are the source files for pgp and ssh no longer
: distributable?  The mirror at os.inf.tu-dresden.de has the permissions
: on these files set so that they are no longer available via anonymous
: ftp. 

... yup, I fixed the permissions in the binary dirs, but forgot
the source dir, sorry.

All should be readable now.

Sorry again.

Heiko
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Re: Log-in prompt question

1997-05-09 Thread Kevin Traas
> > Can someone tell me how to put a word before the Log-in prompt?
> > E.g. Mypcname:# or Mypcname:$.  I know there a lot of fancy
> > things I can do.  Is there a HOWTO I can look?
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Jimmy
> 
> That goes in the /etc/issue file.  You can find the commands in the getty
> man page.

I think the original question was worded a bit wrong  From the
question, he may have been actually looking for command prompt settings -
not login prompt.

Anyway, if so then, to set your command prompt to read "systemname#", put
the following into your .bash_profile:

PS1="\\h\\$ "

Hope this helps,

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
Edmondson Roper CA
http://www.eroper.bc.ca


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Re: Printing to Win95 printer via samba?

1997-05-09 Thread Colin Telmer
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On Thu, 8 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> > The printer I am trying to print to is called HPLIII as listed
> > from the output of  "smbclient -L Main" where Main is the server:
> > 
> > Added interface ip=130.15.134.30 bcast=130.15.134.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
> > Got a positive name query response from 130.15.134.16 (130.15.134.16)
> > read socket failed. ERRNO=111
> > Server time is Thu May  8 18:52:58 1997
> > Timezone is UTC-4.0
> > 
> > Server=[MAIN] User=[] Workgroup=[IIGR] Domain=[IIGR]
> > 
> > Sharename  Type  Comment
> > -    ---
> > D  Disk
> > HPLIII Printer
> > IPC$   IPC   Remote Inter Process Communication
> > PRINTER$   Disk
> > 
> > My first concern is with the read socket failed.
> 
> I can't solve your problem but I can tell you that errno 111 is
> ECONNREFUSED. Connection refused doesn't seem to really make sense.
> I've seen this error before from UDP in a CU-SeeMe reflector. I 
> didn't have the source so I couldn't see why I'd get it.

I am going to move this over to a samba list, but I thought I would run
one thing by you just in case it sheds some light. I received the
ERRNO=111 from the command "smbclient -L main" but when I also specify the
ip address using "smbclient -L main -I 130.15.134.16" I don't get the
error nor the "Got a positive name query...":
- 

Added interface ip=130.15.134.30 bcast=130.15.134.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
Server time is Fri May  9 10:55:22 1997
Timezone is UTC-4.0

Server=[MAIN] User=[] Workgroup=[IIGR] Domain=[IIGR]

Sharename  Type  Comment
-    ---
D  Disk
HPLIII Printer
IPC$   IPC   Remote Inter Process Communication
PRINTER$   Disk 
- 


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Doing the "dselect" portion of an installation

1997-05-09 Thread Brent Hutto
I apologize in advance for asking a tedious newbie-style question, but a couple 
hours reading FAQ lists, newsgroup archives and the last couple months of the 
archive of this mailing list still doesn't help me put it all together.

This week I've done test installations of RedHat 4.1, Slackware 3.1, FreeBSD 
and the "bo" distribution of Debian. I had CD's for RedHat and Slackware but 
attempted to do the Debian release by downloading the floppy images and then 
putting the "base", "libs", "net" and "x11" directories on a FAT partition on 
my hard disk drive.

At first I attributed the confusion surrounding my use of "dselect" to the fact 
that I didn't have a whole image of the CD on my disk partition. After doing 
some reading, though, it appears that everyone has this problem when they try 
their first Debian installation.

Is there a document some where that walks me through an example of installing a 
few packages at a time after a new installation? Once I get my hands on a 
Debian CD-ROM I'd like to do the basic installation and then add only a handful 
of things to my system. For instance, initially I'd put the following on my 
system: 1) enough of the compilers and libraries to build my own kernel, 2) 
XFree86 and a couple of window managers to try out, 3) just enough networking 
to dial my PPP ISP and do ftp, telnet and mail, 4) the Xemacs package, 5) LaTeX 
and maybe LyX. And being the conservative type that I am, I'd prefer to do 
these one at a time and in roughly that order. Of course, there a other nice 
applications I'll need to do my real work on the machine (xlisp-stat, g77, 
Maple, web browser, etc.) but I first want to get a basic system running and 
hammer on it enough to be convinced it is reliable and suited to my tasks at 
hand. 

Does each step in the process mean sorting through the package descriptions and 
figuring out what I need, then running several dependency-solving iterations 
through "dselect" until the messages stop? Or is there some grouping method 
that I missed (reading the "deity" discussion leads me to believe no such thing 
currently exists)? One reason I'm considering Debian rather than RedHat or 
Slackware is that I like to exercise control over what goes on my system. OTOH, 
I'm not infinitely patient in trying to get a usable system (that implies 
networking a X windows) up and running.

Oh, and one final query. Is the "Greenbush" source as good as any for getting 
Debian CD's? Seems like a good deal w.r.t. being up to date and reasonably 
priced.


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is the list still active?

1997-05-09 Thread Carlo U. Segre
Hello All:

I haven't been receiving any list mail for the last 2-3 days, is the list
server down or did I just get unsubscribed by accident?  A few days ago
our mailer was shut down due to a security problem and that is wehn the
mail stopped coming in.

If someone can reply to me directly, I will be happy to resubscribe if
need be.

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Re: help: mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered

1997-05-09 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Terrence M. Brannon wrote:
> 
> I get the above error on my Debian system when I try to mount NFS
> disks on a Solaris system.
> 
> How can I possibly fix this?

Are you sure rpc.mountd and nfsd are running on the remote system?
Try 'rpcinfo -p slowlaris-system'. You should see mountd and nfsd
in the output.

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Re: latex/databases

1997-05-09 Thread Colin Telmer
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On Fri, 9 May 1997, Tim Sailer wrote:

> In your email to me, Dirk Herr-Hoyman, you wrote:
> > 
> > At 07:58 AM 5/9/97 -0400, Tim Sailer wrote:
> > >In your email to me, Rob Browning, you wrote:
> > 
> > >> I've kind of settled on postgress, partially because I was curious
> > >> about SQL, and also because it appears to be capable of anything I
> > >> could want to do.  It's probably overkill, but that's OK.
> > >
> > >You should take a look at MySQL also. It should do what you want,
> > >and is extremely fast too. Quite a few of us here on the mailing
> > >list use it already.
> > >
> > >Tim
> > >
> > 
> > MySQL does look like the real deal.  I was not aware of it, it certainly
> > looks to be better than mSQL.
> > 
> > Is MySQL stable enough to be included as a debian dpkg?  I did see that a
> > Redhat RPM package is available.  
> 
> mysql and the dbi/dbd perl drivers for it are already in hamm. I'm using
> both the debianized and scratch built versions. It's still under heavy
> development, but *very* stable. Bugs are fixed within hours of being
> reported in most caese.

Thanks for all the responses - I think I'll take a look at mySQL on the
weekend. Cheers, Colin.

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Re: latex/databases

1997-05-09 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Dirk Herr-Hoyman, you wrote:
> 
> At 08:58 AM 5/9/97 -0500, Rob Browning wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sailer) writes:
> >
> >> You should take a look at MySQL also. It should do what you want,
> >> and is extremely fast too. Quite a few of us here on the mailing
> >> list use it already.
> >
> >Thanks, but I wanted to stick to free software, if possible, and my
> >impression was that MySQL is not.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> It's as free as mSQL is, which is to say neither is completely free.  Read
> their LICENSING for more details, though.

I believe the client code is GPLed. The server code is free for personal
and other use as long as you don't charge for its use or sell it. (I think
this is correct)

Tim

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Re: latex/databases

1997-05-09 Thread Dirk Herr-Hoyman
At 08:58 AM 5/9/97 -0500, Rob Browning wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sailer) writes:
>
>> You should take a look at MySQL also. It should do what you want,
>> and is extremely fast too. Quite a few of us here on the mailing
>> list use it already.
>
>Thanks, but I wanted to stick to free software, if possible, and my
>impression was that MySQL is not.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

It's as free as mSQL is, which is to say neither is completely free.  Read
their LICENSING for more details, though.
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Re: Another Netscape Question

1997-05-09 Thread Brian White
> Does Netscape (4.0b3) hog the colormap on everyone's system or just
> mine? Have they not heard of sharing? Is there a fix for this, I would
> like to see colored screensavers when netscape is running among other
> things.
> I'm running X11R6 in 1024 x 768 24bpp, Linux 2.0.30, Cirrus clgd5426.

Try giving it the "-ncols" option.  I use "-ncols 64" and find images still
look quite good.  I find with that, fvwm2, and a few other apps that I still
have 120-128 colormap entries free.

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Re: Printer Resolution Problem.

1997-05-09 Thread Mike Schmitz
On May 8, Jim Smith wrote
> Forgot to mention that I'm using Magicfilter, maybe the resolution can
> be reduced to 150 dpi there somewhere.
> 
> Jim
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1. Find out where magicfilter put its' filter.

[mike:~] grep if= /etc/printcap 
:if=/usr/sbin/dj500c-filter:\

2. Edit that file, The postscript section is near the top.

# PostScript
0   %!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 -sDEVICE
=cdj500 -sOutputFile=- -^^^
0   \004%!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 -sDEVICE
=cdj500 -sOutputFile=- -^^^
 Change the 300 to 150

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mailcap 'view' type conflicts

1997-05-09 Thread Brian K Servis

I think the maintainers of xv, xanim, imagemagick, etc. need to agree
on the description fields that go in the mailcap file.  Whenever I
upgrade or install one of the packages they are always wanting to
change the description from what one of the other packages set it
to. Example, xanim suggests

This package recommends changing the value of 'description'
in the 'mailcap' file.

  old:  JPEG Image
  new:  JPEG Graphic Images

This may be fixed in bo, I don't know.  

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Re: X configuration

1997-05-09 Thread Paul McDermott
hi, the problem seems to be your XF86Config file is not configured 
properly. email me the file (XF86Config) and I will take a look at it.  
do you have the horizontal and vertical sinc rates set properly? check 
those settings they are in the monitor manual.  If you have any more 
questions email me.
Paul

On Fri, 9 May 1997, Kyriakos Nikos E. Gorogiannis wrote:

> Hi.
> 
>  I have an EISA 486, with an ISA 16-bit TIGA gr. card, with and onboard
> Tseng ET4000 SVGA chip. I have configured XF86_SVGA, with the correct
> settings about monitor and graphics adapter (one can never be too sure,
> but i have tripple-checked the configuration). However, window borders
> leave traces when moved and button borders frequently appear distorted
> and/or leave traces on screen. What can i do?
> 
>  And something secondary: if you know ways to speed-up this old VGA by
> configuring X differently (without upgrading, that is) i would be very
> gratefull.
> 
>  Thanks in advance and sorry, if i'm too irrelevant with the contents of
> the list, but i'm really new at this.
> 
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Re: latex/databases

1997-05-09 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sailer) writes:

> You should take a look at MySQL also. It should do what you want,
> and is extremely fast too. Quite a few of us here on the mailing
> list use it already.

Thanks, but I wanted to stick to free software, if possible, and my
impression was that MySQL is not.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Unidentified subject!

1997-05-09 Thread Carlos Camargo
HI
My name is Carlos Camargo how i can unsubscribe of this list?
tahnks


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Re: latex/databases

1997-05-09 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Dirk Herr-Hoyman, you wrote:
> 
> At 07:58 AM 5/9/97 -0400, Tim Sailer wrote:
> >In your email to me, Rob Browning, you wrote:
> 
> >> I've kind of settled on postgress, partially because I was curious
> >> about SQL, and also because it appears to be capable of anything I
> >> could want to do.  It's probably overkill, but that's OK.
> >
> >You should take a look at MySQL also. It should do what you want,
> >and is extremely fast too. Quite a few of us here on the mailing
> >list use it already.
> >
> >Tim
> >
> 
> MySQL does look like the real deal.  I was not aware of it, it certainly
> looks to be better than mSQL.
> 
> Is MySQL stable enough to be included as a debian dpkg?  I did see that a
> Redhat RPM package is available.  

mysql and the dbi/dbd perl drivers for it are already in hamm. I'm using
both the debianized and scratch built versions. It's still under heavy
development, but *very* stable. Bugs are fixed within hours of being
reported in most caese.

Tim

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debian-non-us archive

1997-05-09 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings!  Are the source files for pgp and ssh no longer
distributable?  The mirror at os.inf.tu-dresden.de has the permissions
on these files set so that they are no longer available via anonymous
ftp. 

Thanks!

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Re: dselect and updating the system

1997-05-09 Thread Lawrence Chim
Gernot wrote:
> 
> When I start dselect (using the ftp-method) I get a list of available
> "Updated Standard packages". This list tells me that there are new
> versions of my installed components available, they are marked with the
> asterix (*) but they are not installed when I try to install them
> (selection 3 in dselect). Is this the way the whole thing should work or
> am I missing something?
> 

Occasionally, I have this problem and I simply wrote down the packages
and install
them using dpkg manually :)

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Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Lawrence Chim
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 9 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 9 May 1997, Eduardo Goyanes wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I'm writing to satisfy my curiousity on why the llinux kernel 2.0.30 is in
> > >
> > > the unstable archives. When a.b.c  and b is even the file is stable.
> > >
> > > what is the best way to upgrade the kernel for a linux Debian v1.2?
> >
> >
> > A good question.  I'd also like to know what the actual current kernel
> > version is, since I see people on other list's using 2.0.35?
> 
> I do admit I haven't been following too closely lately, but the reason
> 2.0.30 is not in stable is more than likely because it is a pretty major
> adittion to the 2.0 kernels. The TCP/IP stack got many patches to improve
> speed. If we are up to 0.35 already then I'd say whoever decided not to
> put 0.30 in bo made the right choice :>
> 

Also, there is a pre-2.0.31 patch around that (supposted to) fixes the
2.0.30
*socket not close* problem.  Another reason 2.0.30 should be in hamm :)

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Re: latex/databases

1997-05-09 Thread Dirk Herr-Hoyman
At 07:58 AM 5/9/97 -0400, Tim Sailer wrote:
>In your email to me, Rob Browning, you wrote:

>> I've kind of settled on postgress, partially because I was curious
>> about SQL, and also because it appears to be capable of anything I
>> could want to do.  It's probably overkill, but that's OK.
>
>You should take a look at MySQL also. It should do what you want,
>and is extremely fast too. Quite a few of us here on the mailing
>list use it already.
>
>Tim
>

MySQL does look like the real deal.  I was not aware of it, it certainly
looks to be better than mSQL.

Is MySQL stable enough to be included as a debian dpkg?  I did see that a
Redhat RPM package is available.  
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Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:

> On Fri, 9 May 1997, Eduardo Goyanes wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm writing to satisfy my curiousity on why the llinux kernel 2.0.30 is in
> > 
> > the unstable archives. When a.b.c  and b is even the file is stable.
> > 
> > what is the best way to upgrade the kernel for a linux Debian v1.2?
> 
> 
> A good question.  I'd also like to know what the actual current kernel
> version is, since I see people on other list's using 2.0.35?  
> 
Anyone running a 2.0.35 kernel has a processor with time travel
capabilities ;-)

The latest stable/release kernel is version 2.0.30 and will be the kernel
released with Debian 1.3 (bo). The latest unstable/development kernel is
around 2.1.35 or higher and will probably never become part of a Debian
release. Debian's stable directory is currently pointing to 1.2.14 (rex)
and will continue to point there until the release of 1.3 at which time,
1.2 will fade into history and 1.3 will become stable.

Debian releases travel from unstable thru frozen to stable while those
terms when applied to the Linux Kernel have quite different meanings. The
2.1.x kernels will never become "stable" but will magically metamorphize
into the 2.2.x kernel.

In point of fact, in neither case does the idea of stable vs unstable
provide any true hope of security. Both the 2.0.x and the 2.1.x series
have their "good" versions and their "killers". Debian does not mandate
the kernel you run on your system. It does try to provide the latest
functional kernel with every release, but with its method of dealing with
kernel headers you can typically run a wide range of kernel versions.

Waiting is,

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X configuration

1997-05-09 Thread Kyriakos Nikos E. Gorogiannis
Hi.

 I have an EISA 486, with an ISA 16-bit TIGA gr. card, with and onboard
Tseng ET4000 SVGA chip. I have configured XF86_SVGA, with the correct
settings about monitor and graphics adapter (one can never be too sure,
but i have tripple-checked the configuration). However, window borders
leave traces when moved and button borders frequently appear distorted
and/or leave traces on screen. What can i do?

 And something secondary: if you know ways to speed-up this old VGA by
configuring X differently (without upgrading, that is) i would be very
gratefull.

 Thanks in advance and sorry, if i'm too irrelevant with the contents of
the list, but i'm really new at this.


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chmod 640 and not 644 /var/log/messages*

1997-05-09 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
How can I configure my box to chmod o-r the files:

/var/log/messages*

?

Thanks in advance.

Andrea Arcangeli
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Re: latex/databases

1997-05-09 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Rob Browning, you wrote:
> 
> James LewisMoss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > > "Colin" == Colin Telmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> >  Colin> I am beginning a review of a literature on the relations
> >  Colin> between the governments of Canada and will be writing small
> >  Colin> summary reports on each article/book/etc.
> 
> I've been considering the same issue for keeping track of the
> references I read, notes about them, and having the ability to
> generate bibtex files from the data.
> 
> I've kind of settled on postgress, partially because I was curious
> about SQL, and also because it appears to be capable of anything I
> could want to do.  It's probably overkill, but that's OK.

You should take a look at MySQL also. It should do what you want,
and is extremely fast too. Quite a few of us here on the mailing
list use it already.

Tim

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Re: Backspace in rxvt

1997-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 7 May 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:

> > "Jens" == Jens B Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Jens> If typing Backspace on the shell command line prints "^H"
> Jens> rather than doing a backspace, type the command "stty erase
> Jens> ^h" (make sure you type "^" and "h", not CTRL-h. Note that
> Jens> this only changes the current shell (terminal) so you'll
> Jens> probably want to put it in your .profile.
> 
>  I have the same problem--- in an `rxvt`, <-Backspace prints a '~', so
> I have to use C-h to backwards-delete-char.  `stty` doesn't effect it
> at all, as far as I can tell.  I think it's a bug in `rxvt`.
No matter if I follow the hint of Jens (stty erase ^h) or not

does the job I expect of  (delete under cursor)
does: ~

It is really a bug of rxvt? (As I mentioned xterm works OK)

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Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Tomislav Vujec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>The latest Linux kernel versions available on ftp.funet.fi are 2.0.30
> (stable) and 2.1.36 (unstable).  These two kernels (2.0 and 2.1) are
> being developed in parallel, in an effort to avoid the stagnation we saw
> with 1.2 when 1.3 got going.  The 2.0 kernel gets almost exclusively
> bugfix patches, though some new features have been added where the
> impetus was great enough.  If you're using a 2.0 kernel because you want
> a stable kernel, it's in your best interest to use the highest-numbered
> 2.0 patchlevel.

That was true, and will be true again, when pre-2.0.xx schema starts
showing some results. But as of 2.0.30, it is not true! It isn't such
a bad kernel, but you can run into big problems at memory shortage
situations.

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Re: sysklogd dumps core

1997-05-09 Thread Victor Torrico
Alex Romosan wrote:
> 
> i think the problem is with the latest dpkg packages (1.4.0.14). i've
> downgraded to 1.4.0.8 from unstable and it works fine. it seemed to
> have worked fine up until 1.4.0.13 but i could be wrong.
> 
> --alex--
> 

You hit the nail on the head and fixed my problem.  I was using dpkg
(1.4.0.14) and this was causing the problem.  I purged and reinstalled
sysklogd (-15 package) using dpkg (1.4.0.8) and all was well. No more
core dumps and segmentation faults.  Thanks bunches!

Cheers,

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Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Tomislav Vujec
"Eduardo Goyanes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm writing to satisfy my curiousity on why the llinux kernel 2.0.30 is in
> 
> the unstable archives. When a.b.c  and b is even the file is stable.

Maybe version numbers suggests stable version, but 2.0.30 certanly
isn't one. It introduced few memory problems, and pre-2.0.31 patch is
almost required. Also pre-2.0.31 still has few problems, so if you
don't need 100Mbps on ethernet I'll suggest sticking with 2.0.29.

Debian stable tree contains stable release of lots of packages, and
kernel is one of them. It is now about 3 months old, and next stable
will come at Monday, 12th. In the mean time, between two stable
releases, only security and/or global system stability fixes are
accepted in that distribution tree, and 2.0.30 kernel doesn't belong
to either.

> what is the best way to upgrade the kernel for a linux Debian v1.2?

Get it from nearest kernel source mirror, unpack it in /usr/src, and
compile it. Or try the one in unstable/frozen debian tree.

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Re: Printer Resolution Problem.

1997-05-09 Thread Dan Haskell

On Thu, 8 May 1997, Jim Smith wrote:
[snip]
> memory. I can work around this in Winders95 by reducing the print
> resolution to 150 dpi, but I don't see any way to do this in Linux. Is
> there a config file for either Netscape or Ghostscript(-Aladdin) that
> will allow this? I read the online help for Netscape and the man for GS
> but must have missed it if it was there.

Do a search for xresolution and yresolution in the gs man page. Its been a
while since I messed with this, but I think it's what you're looking for. 



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dselect and updating the system

1997-05-09 Thread Gernot
When I start dselect (using the ftp-method) I get a list of available
"Updated Standard packages". This list tells me that there are new
versions of my installed components available, they are marked with the
asterix (*) but they are not installed when I try to install them
(selection 3 in dselect). Is this the way the whole thing should work or
am I missing something?

Gernot
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Re: Log-in prompt question

1997-05-09 Thread Dirk Bernhardt
> Lu Jimmy Chenji writes:

> Can someone tell me how to put a word before the Log-in prompt?

If you use `bash' as your shell of choice, check out the PS1 environment
variable.  Mine is currently set to "[\h] \w\$".  Check out /etc/profile or
~/.profile or... to find out where it's set.

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Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread kuzminsk
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Eduardo Goyanes wrote:
] I'm writing to satisfy my curiousity on why the llinux kernel 2.0.30 is in
] the unstable archives. When a.b.c  and b is even the file is stable.
] what is the best way to upgrade the kernel for a linux Debian v1.2?


On Fri, 9 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:
] A good question.  I'd also like to know what the actual current kernel
] version is, since I see people on other list's using 2.0.35?  


Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
] I do admit I haven't been following too closely lately, but the reason
] 2.0.30 is not in stable is more than likely because it is a pretty major
] adittion to the 2.0 kernels. The TCP/IP stack got many patches to improve
] speed. If we are up to 0.35 already then I'd say whoever decided not to
] put 0.30 in bo made the right choice :>


   The latest Linux kernel versions available on ftp.funet.fi are 2.0.30
(stable) and 2.1.36 (unstable).  These two kernels (2.0 and 2.1) are
being developed in parallel, in an effort to avoid the stagnation we saw
with 1.2 when 1.3 got going.  The 2.0 kernel gets almost exclusively
bugfix patches, though some new features have been added where the
impetus was great enough.  If you're using a 2.0 kernel because you want
a stable kernel, it's in your best interest to use the highest-numbered
2.0 patchlevel.

   The rex-fixed (stable) Debian distribution currently ships with
version 2.0.27 of the kernel.  The changes between 2.0.27 and 2.0.30
included some very important bugfixes (particularly in networking, as
noted by Jason Gunthorpe):  2.0.30 survives the "ping of death" and has
vastly improved resistance to the SYN-flood attack.


   It's practically a moot point now with bo so close to release, but
in the future perhaps it would make sense to include the latest and
greatest (and thus presumably the most stable) 2.0 kernel in the stable
distribution, and the latest 2.1 kernel in the unstable distribution?




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Another Netscape Question

1997-05-09 Thread Jim Smith
Does Netscape (4.0b3) hog the colormap on everyone's system or just
mine? Have they not heard of sharing? Is there a fix for this, I would
like to see colored screensavers when netscape is running among other
things.
I'm running X11R6 in 1024 x 768 24bpp, Linux 2.0.30, Cirrus clgd5426.

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help: mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered

1997-05-09 Thread Terrence M. Brannon

I get the above error on my Debian system when I try to mount NFS
disks on a Solaris system.

How can I possibly fix this?
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Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Jason Gunthorpe


On Fri, 9 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:

> On Fri, 9 May 1997, Eduardo Goyanes wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm writing to satisfy my curiousity on why the llinux kernel 2.0.30 is in
> > 
> > the unstable archives. When a.b.c  and b is even the file is stable.
> > 
> > what is the best way to upgrade the kernel for a linux Debian v1.2?
> 
> 
> A good question.  I'd also like to know what the actual current kernel
> version is, since I see people on other list's using 2.0.35?  

I do admit I haven't been following too closely lately, but the reason
2.0.30 is not in stable is more than likely because it is a pretty major
adittion to the 2.0 kernels. The TCP/IP stack got many patches to improve
speed. If we are up to 0.35 already then I'd say whoever decided not to
put 0.30 in bo made the right choice :>

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Re: Log-in prompt question

1997-05-09 Thread JoKeR
No no no. You want to set it like the following:

PS1='\h:\w\$ '

What this means is '\h' is your hostname. '\w' is the working directory.
'\$' is $ for users and # for root. 


JoKeR

On Thu, 8 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:

> On Fri, 9 May 1997, Lu Jimmy Chenji wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> > Can someone tell me how to put a word before the Log-in prompt?
> > E.g. Mypcname:# or Mypcname:$.  I know there a lot of fancy
> > things I can do.  Is there a HOWTO I can look?
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Jimmy
> 
> That goes in the /etc/issue file.  You can find the commands in the getty
> man page.
> 
> Have a good one,
> 
> --Rick
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Re: sysklogd dumps core

1997-05-09 Thread Alex Romosan
i think the problem is with the latest dpkg packages (1.4.0.14). i've
downgraded to 1.4.0.8 from unstable and it works fine. it seemed to
have worked fine up until 1.4.0.13 but i could be wrong.

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Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Eduardo Goyanes wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm writing to satisfy my curiousity on why the llinux kernel 2.0.30 is in
> 
> the unstable archives. When a.b.c  and b is even the file is stable.
> 
> what is the best way to upgrade the kernel for a linux Debian v1.2?


A good question.  I'd also like to know what the actual current kernel
version is, since I see people on other list's using 2.0.35?  


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Re: latex/databases

1997-05-09 Thread Rob Browning
James LewisMoss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > "Colin" == Colin Telmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>  Colin> I am beginning a review of a literature on the relations
>  Colin> between the governments of Canada and will be writing small
>  Colin> summary reports on each article/book/etc.

I've been considering the same issue for keeping track of the
references I read, notes about them, and having the ability to
generate bibtex files from the data.

I've kind of settled on postgress, partially because I was curious
about SQL, and also because it appears to be capable of anything I
could want to do.  It's probably overkill, but that's OK.

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Printer Resolution Problem.

1997-05-09 Thread Jim Smith
Forgot to mention that I'm using Magicfilter, maybe the resolution can
be reduced to 150 dpi there somewhere.

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Printer Resolution Problem.

1997-05-09 Thread Jim Smith
I have a printing problem using Netscape under Linux. When I print a
page, either from Netscape Mail or from the browser, my printer burps
with a "Page Overflow" error. I believe this is caused by several
things. First my printer is a Star LS-5 which is running as a clone of
an LJ 2P. Problem with this is a LJ 2P came with 1Meg of RAM and mine
only has 512K. Secondly, Netscape, either Mail or Browser, prints thru
Ghostscript. (I checked this with Top while it was printing)
Thus a page printed at the default 300dpi resolution can overrun the
memory. I can work around this in Winders95 by reducing the print
resolution to 150 dpi, but I don't see any way to do this in Linux. Is
there a config file for either Netscape or Ghostscript(-Aladdin) that
will allow this? I read the online help for Netscape and the man for GS
but must have missed it if it was there.

Thanks in advance
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stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Eduardo Goyanes
Hello,

I'm writing to satisfy my curiousity on why the llinux kernel 2.0.30 is in

the unstable archives. When a.b.c  and b is even the file is stable.

what is the best way to upgrade the kernel for a linux Debian v1.2?






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Re: Log-in prompt question

1997-05-09 Thread Rick Jones
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Lu Jimmy Chenji wrote:

> Hello all,
> Can someone tell me how to put a word before the Log-in prompt?
> E.g. Mypcname:# or Mypcname:$.  I know there a lot of fancy
> things I can do.  Is there a HOWTO I can look?
> Thanks in advance,
> Jimmy

That goes in the /etc/issue file.  You can find the commands in the getty
man page.

Have a good one,

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Log-in prompt question

1997-05-09 Thread Lu Jimmy Chenji
Hello all,
Can someone tell me how to put a word before the Log-in prompt?
E.g. Mypcname:# or Mypcname:$.  I know there a lot of fancy
things I can do.  Is there a HOWTO I can look?
Thanks in advance,
Jimmy



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Re: latex/databases

1997-05-09 Thread James LewisMoss
> "Colin" == Colin Telmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Colin> I am beginning a review of a literature on the relations
 Colin> between the governments of Canada and will be writing small
 Colin> summary reports on each article/book/etc. Rather than just
 Colin> filling a directory with latex files, I am wondering if the is
 Colin> a simple-to-use database that I could use to store and
 Colin> manipulate these reports? That's quite an open-ended question
 Colin> and I am happy with filling a directory with latex articles,
 Colin> but I thought I would ask if there is a practical
 Colin> alternative. My first thought was to just use bibtex and store
 Colin> the report in the optional notes section, but that doesn't
 Colin> seem like the best way to go if the report is anything beyond
 Colin> an abstract. Any thoughts, no matter how off base they may
 Colin> seem to be, are welcome. Cheers, Colin.

I'd use qddb.  Is a flat text database based on tcl/tk.

Jim

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Re: Several stand-alone boxes

1997-05-09 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 8 May 1997, Brad Bell wrote:

> On Thu, 8 May 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 1.Maintaining uniform installations without nfs-mounting a
> > >   common filesystem.  We'd rather have redundant /usr
> > >   filesystems than have our machines freeze after each hiccup on
> > >   the net.  Is there a way to turn the output of "dpkg -l" into
> > >   a useable script for reproducing one machine's setup on
> > >   another?
> > > 
> > Try dpkg --set-selections to create the file and dpkg --get-selections on
> > the new machine.
> 
> I believe it's the other way around...
> 
Yep, I think you're right :-S

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Re: popclient .poprc file

1997-05-09 Thread James LewisMoss
> "mono" == mono   writes:

 mono> Hello, I just edited my .poprc file so it looks like this:

 mono> defaults proto pop3 localfolder /var/spool/mail/troop server
 mono> mail.chiparus.org user blah pass secret server
 mono> mail.chiparus.org user blah pass secret server pop.pi.net user
 mono> blah pass secret

 mono> Problem is, as soon as i start popclient it exits with a
 mono> segmentation fault. As soon as i comment 2 out of the 3
 mono> 'server' lines in the .poprc (so only 1 is active) it works
 mono> okay.

 mono> question: am i missing something in configuration? as far as i
 mono> know the above file should work fine.

First off stop using popclient and get fetchmail.  The rc files are
basically the same (took me about 15 minutes to convert), and it is
much more stable, and does much more.

Second if you decide to ignore the above. :)  Make sure that the last
line in the file is a blank line.  I.e. make sure there is a return
after the last command line.

Jim

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Re: Printing to Win95 printer via samba?

1997-05-09 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Colin Telmer wrote:
> 
> I have being trying to figure out how to print to a printer attached to a
> networked win95 machine using samba for about 2 hours now and I don't seem
> to be getting anywhere. I was hoping someone could shed some light on the
> matter if I supply some details.
> 
> First of all, I also have win95 on my machine and it prints to the other
> machine fine. So there is no problem on the hardware side.
> 
> The printer I am trying to print to is called HPLIII as listed
> from the output of  "smbclient -L Main" where Main is the server:
> 
> Added interface ip=130.15.134.30 bcast=130.15.134.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
> Got a positive name query response from 130.15.134.16 (130.15.134.16)
> read socket failed. ERRNO=111
> Server time is Thu May  8 18:52:58 1997
> Timezone is UTC-4.0
> 
> Server=[MAIN] User=[] Workgroup=[IIGR] Domain=[IIGR]
> 
> Sharename  Type  Comment
> -    ---
> D  Disk
> HPLIII Printer
> IPC$   IPC   Remote Inter Process Communication
> PRINTER$   Disk
> 
> My first concern is with the read socket failed. But I don't know what to
> do about this (some debuging info below). I have setup a printcap entry as
> specified in the print2win mini-howto with a device created by
> "touch /dev/iigr" as specified in the bottom of that document. The
> printcap entry is:
> 
> iigr|Remote samba printer:\
> :cm=HP III Printer in IIGR Room 301:\
> :lp=/dev/iigr:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/iigr:\
> :af=/var/spool/lpd/iigr/acct:\
> :mx#0:\
> :if=/usr/local/bin/smbprint:
> 
> Question 1: Is acct supposed to be a file that I create or a directory?
> 
> I have also copied smbprint from the /usr/doc/samba/example directory and
> placed it in /usr/local/bin as specified above (my exact smbprint is
> listed at the end of this file).
> 
> my /etc/smb.conf is
> 
> [global]
>printcap name = /etc/printcap
>load printers = yes
>guest account = nobody
>invalid users = root
> [printers]
>comment = All Printers
>browseable = no
>path = /tmp
>printable = yes
>public = no
>writable = no
>create mode = 0700
> [hpliii]
>path = /tmp
>readonly = yes
>printable = yes
>public = true
> 
> and my /var/spool/lpd/iigr/.config is
> 
> server=Main
> service=hpliii
> password=""
> user=terrapin
> 
> So, when I go to print a file using lpr -Piigr foo.txt nothing happens at
> the other end. /var/spool/lpd/iigr/status says "lp is ready and printing"
> and /tmp/smb-print.log states
> 
> server Main, service hpliii
> server Main, service hpliii
> 
> I really don't know what else to add except for the output from testparm,
> the output from "smbclient main//hpiii -d 4 -P" and my smbprint file:
> 
> PS. I also tried to use the print command from the prompt in smbclient
> without sucess. Any help is very much appreciated. Cheers, Colin.
> 

I can't solve your problem but I can tell you that errno 111 is
ECONNREFUSED. Connection refused doesn't seem to really make sense.
I've seen this error before from UDP in a CU-SeeMe reflector. I 
didn't have the source so I couldn't see why I'd get it.

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