First Mars Pictures

[Jim Pick]

Anyone watching NASA Select TV for the first pictures of Mars?

The desktop they're using looks hauntingly familiar...

fvwm2 is there, and xv too...

:-)

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: off topic: password strategy as an ISP

[John Foster]

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> cat <<__EOF__
> No telnet login allowed.
> 
> ** Insert the motd here **
>  
> __EOF__
> sleep 5
> exit 0
> 

And if the remote user managed to interrupt it would they get
/bin/sh?, with EUID 0?

And what if the sleep call was suspended?

I don't think a shell script could ever be a secure shell...

John Foster


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Re: What programs make disks spin up?

[Andy Spiegl]

According to  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Andy Spiegl writes:
> > I read that when a disk has been running for a very long time it sort of
> > dug a ditch into the ball bearing.  And when it spins up after a shutdown
> > chances are high it won't find that 'ditch' or stumbles across it and
> > fails.
> 
> You read wrong.  I doubt anyone has made a disk that doesn't use air
> bearings for decades.
Oh, okay, I didn't know that.  But I wrote "sort of" to express that
I am not exactly sure what is happening.  But the effect is just as
if that what I described is happening.  The real technical reason
may be different.  Oh, boy this paragraph is screwed up.  I hope
you could follow my thoughts.

Bye,
 Andy.

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GS mode for Epson Stylus Color 800 ???

[Andy Spiegl]

Hi!

I just recently got my new printer.  It was easy to set up the
magicfilter so that I can print anything I want.  But the highest
resolution I got was 360x180.  Like this:
 /usr/bin/gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r360x180 -sDEVICE=epsonc

If I write anything higher than that, like -r360x360 or so, the
printer output is distorted or completely garbled.  So I am wondering
whether it's at all possible to get it to print at a higher resolution.
The printer supports up to 1440x1440.

Thanks a lot in advance,
 Andy.

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Re: 3COM 3C905-TX PCI NIC

[Dave Cinege]

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:36:29 -0700, Kevin Traas wrote:

>I installed using May 30 diskette set (Debian 1.3.0, Kernel 2.0.29).  From
>there, I chose the 3c59x module (I got this information from the above URL
>- like Dave mentioned, this should definitely be identified in modconf).
>
>I tried setting various options for this driver (as per the above web page)
>and, while the driver happily accepted them, loaded, and reported the
>options as active, I couldn't communicate on the network.  I finally went
>with the default "options=7" and now everything is working great!

Where did you put this? LILO? You mention in your other post that you didn't 
use the DOS config. What you said above is what happens if you don't lock
the card at one speed. It looks like this options thing is a way around it. 
(Maybe the right way. The locking it from DOS I saw mentioned many months 
and revisions of the driver ago)

>The only "funny" thing is that `ifconfig` reports eth0 as being "10Mbps
>Ethernet"; however, it *is* operating at 100Mbps.

Hmmm I think it's broken. If I remember right it reported some DEC FDDI 
boards I worked with as 10Mbps also. FDDI ain't nowhere near 10Mbps  ; >


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Problem linking with publib library and g++

[Oliver Elphick]

I have a linking problem when I try to include functions from the
publib library in a C++ program.  This worked before I upgraded
to the new releases (see below).

An easy example:
 #include 
 main()
 {
  char *x = "This   is  a string with   spaces ";
  char y[256];

  strcpy(y, x);
  strmtrim(y);
  strtrim(y);
  printf ("%s-\n%s-\n", x, y);
 }

When I try to compile this as C++:
 linda:~/cprogs$ g++ main.c -lpub
 /tmp/cca132571.o: In function `main':
 /tmp/cca132571.o(.text+0x2b): undefined reference to `strtrim(char *)'

but as C, it's fine:
 linda:~/cprogs$ gcc main.c -lpub
 linda:~/cprogs$ 

I can't work out what has changed and why this no longer works.

System: Pentium Pro
Kernel: 2.0.30
Debian: 1.3 from unstable
gcc:2.7.2.2-4
binutils:   2.8.1-1
publib-dev: 0.26-1
libc6:  2.0.3-4
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xemacs19 dumps core w. XFree 3.3

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

After installing the new XFree 3.3 packages xemacs 19.15 (from the
unstable dir) dumps immediatly core after starting.
I had to go back to 3.2.
Is it possible that xemacs19 doesn't work with the new xlib6?

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Re: Audio support

[Christian Hudon]

On Jul 4, Jason Westervelt wrote
[snip]
> After asking several sound card questions, I get
> error messages stating that stdio.h and 4 other *.h files could not be
> found.

Do you have libc5-dev installed? If not, install it and try again.

  Christian


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Re: No man

[Christian Hudon]

On Jul 4, Will Lowe wrote
> Ok.  I upgraded from 1.2 -> 1.3 the other day.  Got an error saying that
> "mandb" conflicted with "man",  so I purged man and installed "mandb",
> thinking that the latter replaced the former.  Now I've got no man.  Any
> clues?

Reinstalling mandb should fix it.

  Christian


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Audio support

[Jason Westervelt]

I apologize in advance for being such a newbie at Linux, but I do know a
little.

I managed to install the Debian base set along with X11, and got it all
up and running, even got the Afterstep package up, that was easy and
straightforward.  When I tried to recompile the kernel to add in sound
support, things started to get weird.
I have used Slackware in the past (i didn't like it at all) and I got
the sound up and running fine.  When I download the kernel-source
package, and get all the compilers and everything that I *think* I need
and install them, running 'make config' works fine until I get to the
sound card section.  After asking several sound card questions, I get
error messages stating that stdio.h and 4 other *.h files could not be
found.

If anyone could suggest to me how to start fresh, what packages to DL
and what commands to run to get a sound supporting kernel, I'd be very
happy.  I think Debian is pretty cool, and hopefully its users are
supportive on this ML.. =)

Jason Westervelt

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Re: ideas: tutorial and mail filter

[Martin Schulze]

Brandon Mitchell writes:

>   2) Is there a way to convert the following from my .procmailrc:
> :0:
> * .*(@mega.net|\
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
> ...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 
> to search for one of these e-mail addresses in a file?  The idea being I
> can get a list of spam addresses, append them to a file, and procmail does
> it's dirty job if the address is in the file.  Otherwise, I'll get one
> long and dirty .procmailrc file.

procmail supports Blacklists, please check out its documentation.

Regards

Joey

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ideas: tutorial and mail filter

[Brandon Mitchell]

I was thinking about two ideas that may help Debian and general linux
systems:

  1) How about a simple tutorial that comes up after installing debian.
Something that would offer 3 steps: 1. a general linux tutor for those
people who are completely new, 2. a sys admin tutor for those who haven't
had to admin before, and 3. a debian tutor explaining dselect, dpkg, the
filesystem layout, features, etc.
  I would be nice if this could be e-mailed, printed (for pamplets to go
with cd's along the the install notes), easily exported to the web, and
automatically come up when a new user logs in (maybe something like: for
help using linux or debian, type "tutor" (or maybe "learn", "help" was
already taken) implemented by cating an /etc/README.newuser from the
.profile, .bash_profile, or .bashrc).
  If I'm reinventing the wheel, if someone want's to do this, if someone
wants to help me, or if you would find this helpful or needed on a debian
system, let me know.

  2) Is there a way to convert the following from my .procmailrc:
:0:
* .*(@mega.net|\
[EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
[EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
[EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
[EMAIL PROTECTED]|\
...
[EMAIL PROTECTED])

to search for one of these e-mail addresses in a file?  The idea being I
can get a list of spam addresses, append them to a file, and procmail does
it's dirty job if the address is in the file.  Otherwise, I'll get one
long and dirty .procmailrc file.

Thanks,
Brandon

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Re: Q: How to change icon bitmap for rxvt-xpm??

[Randy Edwards]

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, jim wrote:

> I'd like to have a special icon bitmap for when rxvt-xpm is
> minimized.  Read the man page and nothing.  Any ideas??

   I believe this is done in your window manager.  I run fvwm2 and
accomplished this by adding a line of:

Style "rxvt"Icon xterm-linux.xpm

into my /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc file.

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Off topic satellite information...

[Dale Scheetz]

To appologize for wasting bandwidth, I will keep this short.

This has a very vague connection to Debian, in that seesat5 was first
distributed as a Debian package, so users of this program will be
interested.

Check out the following url if you have any "global security" interests:

http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/5345238

This is a patent on "stealth" satellite technology. Although IBM provides
the web link to this information, they are not the patent holder.

Please make comments by private e-mail (take the lists off your cc) and if
the response (from my two seesat users) is overwhelming I will summarize
to the lists.

Waiting is,

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Re: Digests

[Emilio Lopes]

> "T" == Tommy  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

T> Are the various debian lists available in digest formant?  If so
T> what is the procedure for setting delivery for digest.  Thanks

Just subscribe to debian-user-digest, etc.

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Re: off topic: password strategy as an ISP

[Martin . Bialasinski]

On  4 Jul, Nils Rennebarth wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Pavel Galynin wrote:
>>> attempts to telnet from the one source, but as we've disabled shell
>>> access for dial-in clients it'll just give them motd if they do get in
>>> that way!
>>
>>i'm not at all knowledgeable in linux, but chsh changes a default shell
>>of the user in /etc/passwd. (at least on sunOS)
> Yes, but how do you run it without getting a shell login in the first
> place?
> 
Easy. The users login shells are:

#!/bin/sh
cat <<__EOF__
No telnet login allowed.

** Insert the motd here **
 
__EOF__
sleep 5
exit 0

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: 3COM 3C905-TX PCI NIC

[Kevin Traas]

> >Well, I just bought one after my transceiver died on an old 3c509, and
to my disapointment, it didn't work under 2.0.30 (device or resource busy
it said).
> >I went to the hardware howto, and found a link to Donald Becker's
homepage.
> >There's an upgraded version of 3c59x.c which works ok with my 3c905.
> >It's a drop-in replacement.
> 
> Yes they do work under 2.0.30 and have several kernels back. The only
trick, 
> is you have to turn the auto speed detect off and lock it to 10 or 100
with
> the DOS config utility. Maybe the new driver you got fixes this. 

I'm running 2.0.30.  I didn't follow and of the "tricks" you mentioned.  I
pulled the card out of the box/static bag, plugged it in, and went from
there.  No DOS config was required

Later,

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
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Re: 3COM 3C905-TX PCI NIC

[Kevin Traas]

> > are the 90x cards even supported yet?
> 
> Well, I just bought one after my transceiver died on an old 3c509, and to
my disapointment, it didn't work under 2.0.30 (device or resource busy it
said).
> I went to the hardware howto, and found a link to Donald Becker's
homepage.
> There's an upgraded version of 3c59x.c which works ok with my 3c905.
> It's a drop-in replacement.
> 
> The URL is:
>   http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
> 
> I've haven't tried it with 100Mbps though...

I'm now running this card at 100Mbps.  No problems.  You shoulda seen the
FTP install go!!!

Anyway, here's my story.

I installed using May 30 diskette set (Debian 1.3.0, Kernel 2.0.29).  From
there, I chose the 3c59x module (I got this information from the above URL
- like Dave mentioned, this should definitely be identified in modconf).

I tried setting various options for this driver (as per the above web page)
and, while the driver happily accepted them, loaded, and reported the
options as active, I couldn't communicate on the network.  I finally went
with the default "options=7" and now everything is working great!

My /var/log/messages entries are as follows:

Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel:   3Com EtherLink III: Overriding PCI latency
timer (CFLT) setting of 32, new value is 255.
Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel: eth0: 3Com 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at
0x6000, 00:60:97:b5:ad:75, IRQ 11
Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel:   Internal config register is 16302d8,
transceivers 0xe040.
Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel:   8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split,
autoselect/MII interface.
Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel: 3c59x.c:v0.30-all 12/23/96
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...
Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel: eth0: Initial media type MII.
Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel: eth0: vortex_open() InternalConfig 016302d8.
Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel: eth0: vortex_open() irq 11 media status
8802.
Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel: eth0: Media selection timer tick happened,
MII.
Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel: eth0: Media MII is has no indication, 8802.
Jul  4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel: eth0: Media selection timer finished, MII.

The only "funny" thing is that `ifconfig` reports eth0 as being "10Mbps
Ethernet"; however, it *is* operating at 100Mbps.

Anyway, that's my "success" story

Later,
Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
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Re: Q: How to add helpers on Netscape which require a file as input

[Shaya Potter]

add a %s to the filename. EX. use playaudio %s to play .au files.

Shaya

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, jim wrote:

> Using Netscape 4.0b5.  I need to add maplay as the MPEG helper 
> app.  HOWEVER, just adding the application does nothing.  The
> online help in netscape and at the web site doesn't tell me how
> to tell helper applications where to find the temporary file.
> 
> What I suspect is happening is that netscape downloads the .mpeg file
> and stores is in its cache area under some temporary file name.
> It is then up to the user adding the helper app to supply an incantation
> with a %X macro character which is then expanded by netscape to
> produce a valid shell command.  I tried %f (filename) but it didn't
> work.  
> 
> Does anyone know how to do this stew??
> 
> Also, is anyone working on using menus to do a bulk add of helper 
> apps to netscape??
> 
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Re: mc problem

[Dima]

>>David Puryear wrote:
 >Hi,
 >
 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindsay Allen) wrote:
 >  
 >  > I am nearly certain that, some time back, I could put the cursor (in mc)
 >  > over a .deb file, press Enter and find myself "inside" the package.  I ca
>n
 >  > do it right now on .tar.gz files, but with .deb files it shows a
 >  > directory OTHER with a filesize of 0.  
 >  > 
 >In your /etc/mc/mc.ext you should have these:
 >
 ># deb
 >regex/\.deb$
 >Open=%cd deb:%d/%p/
 >View=%view{ascii} dpkg-deb -c %f
^^^
Thanks. Using '%f' is recommended, tho'.

It enables you to view contents on , but it's not what Lindsay asked
about.  That is done  by /usr/local/lib/mc/extfs/deb -- it's a Perl script
and I can't see anything wrong with it (I don't know much about Perl tho'.)
I guess either *.deb format has changed since it was written or the problem
is with Perl.
FWIW I've perl-5.004-2 here, and *.deb browser doesn't work for me.

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Q: How to add helpers on Netscape which require a file as input

[jim]

Using Netscape 4.0b5.  I need to add maplay as the MPEG helper 
app.  HOWEVER, just adding the application does nothing.  The
online help in netscape and at the web site doesn't tell me how
to tell helper applications where to find the temporary file.

What I suspect is happening is that netscape downloads the .mpeg file
and stores is in its cache area under some temporary file name.
It is then up to the user adding the helper app to supply an incantation
with a %X macro character which is then expanded by netscape to
produce a valid shell command.  I tried %f (filename) but it didn't
work.  

Does anyone know how to do this stew??

Also, is anyone working on using menus to do a bulk add of helper 
apps to netscape??


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Re: kernel panic fs?

[Bruce Perens]

If you are trying to boot from the hard disk root using the rescue floppy,
try this command line:

boot: linux load_ramdisk=0 root=/dev/hd??

Replace the "??" with the appropriate details for your system, like "b2".

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Re: 3COM 3C905-TX PCI NIC

[Dave Cinege]

On Fri, 04 Jul 1997 01:00:34 -0700, Philippe Troin wrote:

>
>On Thu, 03 Jul 1997 16:49:14 CDT m* ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>> Dave Cinege wrote:
>> > 
>> > I call upon you Kernel gods. You see, it will not end by itself. Please put
>> > the words "and 3c90x" on the vortex driver line in the configs. (Or someone
>> > submit a patch. I don't know how)
>> 
>> are the 90x cards even supported yet?
>
>Well, I just bought one after my transceiver died on an old 3c509, and to my 
>disapointment, it didn't work under 2.0.30 (device or resource busy it said).
>I went to the hardware howto, and found a link to Donald Becker's homepage.
>There's an upgraded version of 3c59x.c which works ok with my 3c905.
>It's a drop-in replacement.

Yes they do work under 2.0.30 and have several kernels back. The only trick, 
is you have to turn the auto speed detect off and lock it to 10 or 100 with
the DOS config utility. Maybe the new driver you got fixes this. 

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Re: dselect ftp hamm

[Victor Torrico]

Igor Grobman wrote:

> > I have had no problems using dselect ftp to install files from all
> > directories but hamm.  I answer the ftp prompts in an obvious fashion
> > and voila everything works OK.
> >
> > What do I do to install files from /debian/hamm/hamm
> > /debian/hamm/contrib and /debian/hamm/non-free?  That is, how do I
> > answer the ftp prompts from dselect so that I can install the files from
> > the above directories?  I've tried various answers to the prompts with
> > no success.  It's driving me bananas.  Another of life's little
> > mysteries.
> >
>
> Below is the patch you need to apply to /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install
> Then, in access step of dselect, you have to choose debian/ as the top
> directory,  and  hamm/hamm hamm/contrib hamm/non-free as the distributions.
>
> --- /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install.orig Thu Dec  5 07:37:13 1996
> +++ /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install Wed Apr 16 01:47:34 1997
> @@ -139,6 +139,7 @@
>  print "\nProcessing Package files...\n";
>  my $dist;
>  foreach $dist (@dists) {
> +$dist =~ tr/\//_/;
>  my $fn = "Packages.$dist";
>  if (-f $fn) {
> print " $dist...\n";
>
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Thanks so much for your help.  Everything worked perfectly as you described.

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Re: Help! I broke 'man'!!

[Brandon Mitchell]

Tim,

Check for something like a "set -a" in the boot up scripts.  Comment it
out, login again.  I think this has been reported as a bug against bash
by now.

HTH,
Brandon

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On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Tim wrote:

> I think I broke 'man'.. It says it's updating the index cache, and hangs
> that way until it's stopped. I did delete a file in /tmp, called
> zman___aaa, since there was a message saying it couldn't do anything
> because this file was there. Was that a mistake? I though things is /tmp
> were temporary and that these files were not critical.
> 
> Thanks, 
> Tim
> 
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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

[Andrea Arcangeli]

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:

>> On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Anthony Fok wrote:
>> 
>> > On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Victor Torrico wrote:
>> > 
>> > > The new Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 installs nicely using the Debian
>> > > netscape-beta package.  It seems to be very stable but then again I
>> > > never had problems with Communicator 4.0b5.
>> > 
>> > [deleted for brevity]
>> > 
>> > Communicator 4.01b6 works great here too!  However, it seems to be a
>> > memory hog, and the memory usage just keeps growing, sometimes up to 40 MB
>> > virtual memory (?) (and X was taking over 30 MBs by then too) and by that
>> > time I would just quit and restart Netscape so I wouldn't run out of
>> > memory.  Maybe part of the reason is that I am using some big Chinese
>> > fonts?  :)  But other than that, it is one of the most stable release!
>> > The response was fast and quick too! 
>> 
>> And they include a dynamically linked version too.  
>
>Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
>for most of us who has Motif 2.0 :(

Works with lesstif too? ;)

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Re: Xprinter problem with StarOffice

[Bob Nielsen]

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Johnny Stevenson wrote:

> I have Debian 1.2 and (successfully) installed StarOffice in /usr/local.
> 
> I ran setup as a user successfully, with no errors reported.
> 
> Each time I run swriter3 I get an error:
> 
> Xprinter not found  
> XPPATH incorrectly set.
> 
> (or something very similar)
> 
> I have XPPATH set to:
> /usr/local/StartOffice-3.1/xpm
> 
> So unless this is wrong then I do not know how to fix the problem.
> 
> Any advice would be most appreciated.

You should be running the .sd.sh script which StarOffice installs.

>From .sd.sh:

XPPATH=/usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/xp3

Bob


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Re: Can't execute slrn in 1.3.1

[Bob Nielsen]

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, joost witteveen wrote:

> > On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
> > 
> > > Bob,
> > > 
> > > I believe I've seen this message on a script when the path is incorrect on
> > > the first line.  Try this: "file /usr/bin/slrn".  If that doesn't provide
> > > anything useful, and it doesn't say anything about it being ELF, view it
> > > with more or less to see what the first line points too.
> > 
> > It does say ELF.  When viewing it, I see /lib/ld-linux-so.2 whereas I have
> > /lib/ld-linux-so.1 (from ldso_1.8.10-2, which is the latest in bo).  Could
> > slrn have been built with a later version?
> 
> 
> Yes, slrn is fully libc6, whereas you don't have a libc6 capable
> ldso installed (nor, do I think, do you have libc6 on your system).
> Upgrad ldso to unstable, and install libc6.
> 
> Optional: check "dpkg -s slrn", and see if it does depend on
> libc6. If not, file a bug against slrn.


Package: slrn
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: news
Installed-Size: 353
Maintainer: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 0.9.3.2-2.1
Provides: news-reader
Depends: perl, libc5 (>= 5.4.0-0), slang0.99.34 (>= 0.99.38)

I have the proper depends.

I'm not sure of the procedure for a bug report.

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Re: Can't execute slrn in 1.3.1

[Joey Hess]

The slrn in bo was horribly broken and wouldn't work on libc5 systems. I've
just uploaded a fixed version.

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Toshiba Tecra 500CDT internal modem register settings ?

[Stan Brown]

Does anyoe have any information on register settings for the ineternal
modem in a Toshiba Tecra 500CDT?

Toshiba is less than useless on this. I have spenst over an hour on the
phone to their support centere without any information.

I needto make mine ignorefax tones even if presented, and wait for the
data tones which will follow.

Thanks.

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No man

[Will Lowe]

Ok.  I upgraded from 1.2 -> 1.3 the other day.  Got an error saying that
"mandb" conflicted with "man",  so I purged man and installed "mandb",
thinking that the latter replaced the former.  Now I've got no man.  Any
clues?

Will

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kernel panic fs?

[K.Y.Lo]

Hi

I own an 386 with 4MB of ram, I want to do my best about solve the problem.
at other day, I installed Debian linux on my hard disk with DOS partition as
well. it takes a few mins but what happened.. I am beginner of new linux.

RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0.

VFS: Cannot open root device 03:42.

Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03.41.

What does that mean? I dont understand that 

I use loadlin 1.6 with zimage. any idea?

help me?

Kam

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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

[Bob Clark]

Philippe Troin wrote:
> 
> Well I still get:
> ERROR: File not found
> Cant load plugin /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/libnullplugin.so.
> Ignored.
> ERROR: File not found
> Cant load plugin /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/libnullplugin.so.
> Ignored.
> 
> But the files are there...
> Whatever, it seems to be working ok...

Just delete libnullplugin.so (or rename it) and it still works but
without the error messages.

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Q: How to change icon bitmap for rxvt-xpm??

[jim]

I'd like to have a special icon bitmap for when rxvt-xpm is
minimized.  Read the man page and nothing.  Any ideas??


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Re: emacs won't install if /usr/local is read-only

[James R. Van Zandt]

>My /usr/local mounted read-only when I install emacs. The package keep
>complaining about /usr/local is mounted read-only.

packages are not allowed to store files into /usr/local.  However, the
emacs package is installing only directories:

$ dpkg -L emacs|grep local
/usr/local
/usr/local/lib
/usr/local/lib/emacs
/usr/local/lib/emacs/site-lisp   

I believe that's okay.

 - Jim Van Zandt


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Re: X finally working! ...but in the wrong resolution...

[Dale Scheetz]

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

> 
> Evening, all. I finally have X working, olvwm is no longer
> crashing and burning. Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] for your pointing
> me in the right direction (and my finding the manual for the
> video card).

Glad to have been of help.

> 
> However, I am now in the unenviable positionn of 640x480 only.
> While the chip set was supported, none of the other information
> was clear as to what to set.
> 
During testing I found that this limitation was imposed when I chose a
"poor" monitor type in the configuration dialogue box (while making the
config file). I believe that I had to choose the last SVGA non-interlaced
option on the list provided.

Luck,

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emacs won't install if /usr/local is read-only

[Linh Dang]

1.2.8 and 1.3 exhitbit the same behaviour!!!

My /usr/local mounted read-only when I install emacs. The package keep
complaining about /usr/local is mounted read-only.

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emacs won't install if /usr/local is read-only

[Linh Dang]

1.2.8 and 1.3 exhitbit the same behaviour!!!

My /usr/local mounted read-only when I install emacs. The package keep
complaining about /usr/local is mounted read-only.

Linh



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Re: mc problem

[David Puryear]

Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindsay Allen) wrote:
  
  > I am nearly certain that, some time back, I could put the cursor (in mc)
  > over a .deb file, press Enter and find myself "inside" the package.  I can
  > do it right now on .tar.gz files, but with .deb files it shows a
  > directory OTHER with a filesize of 0.  
  > 
In your /etc/mc/mc.ext you should have these:

# deb
regex/\.deb$
Open=%cd deb:%d/%p/
View=%view{ascii} dpkg-deb -c %f

A while back, I reported this as bug, but I guess it was not fixed.

hth,
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Re: dselect ftp hamm

[Igor Grobman]

> hello,
> 
> Igor Grobman wrote:
> > 
> > > I have had no problems using dselect ftp to install files from all
> > > directories but hamm.  I answer the ftp prompts in an obvious fashion
> > > and voila everything works OK.
> > >
> > > What do I do to install files from /debian/hamm/hamm
> > > /debian/hamm/contrib and /debian/hamm/non-free?  That is, how do I
> > > answer the ftp prompts from dselect so that I can install the files from
> > > the above directories?  I've tried various answers to the prompts with
> > > no success.  It's driving me bananas.  Another of life's little
> > > mysteries.
> > >
> > 
> > Below is the patch you need to apply to 
> 
> are all install problems patched in 1.3.1?

I don't believe this particular problem is fixed in 1.3.1  There weren't any 
new
releases of dpkg-ftp other than those in experimental.  This particular 
problem only affects downloading from unstable, however, and shouldn't ever 
cause any problems with stable.


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Re: dselect ftp hamm

[Pavel Galynin]

hello,

Igor Grobman wrote:
> 
> > I have had no problems using dselect ftp to install files from all
> > directories but hamm.  I answer the ftp prompts in an obvious fashion
> > and voila everything works OK.
> >
> > What do I do to install files from /debian/hamm/hamm
> > /debian/hamm/contrib and /debian/hamm/non-free?  That is, how do I
> > answer the ftp prompts from dselect so that I can install the files from
> > the above directories?  I've tried various answers to the prompts with
> > no success.  It's driving me bananas.  Another of life's little
> > mysteries.
> >
> 
> Below is the patch you need to apply to 

are all install problems patched in 1.3.1?

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Re: dselect ftp hamm

[Igor Grobman]

> I have had no problems using dselect ftp to install files from all
> directories but hamm.  I answer the ftp prompts in an obvious fashion
> and voila everything works OK.
> 
> What do I do to install files from /debian/hamm/hamm
> /debian/hamm/contrib and /debian/hamm/non-free?  That is, how do I
> answer the ftp prompts from dselect so that I can install the files from
> the above directories?  I've tried various answers to the prompts with
> no success.  It's driving me bananas.  Another of life's little
> mysteries.
> 

Below is the patch you need to apply to /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install
Then, in access step of dselect, you have to choose debian/ as the top 
directory,  and  hamm/hamm hamm/contrib hamm/non-free as the distributions.



--- /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install.orig Thu Dec  5 07:37:13 1996
+++ /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install Wed Apr 16 01:47:34 1997
@@ -139,6 +139,7 @@
 print "\nProcessing Package files...\n";
 my $dist;
 foreach $dist (@dists) {
+$dist =~ tr/\//_/;
 my $fn = "Packages.$dist";
 if (-f $fn) {
print " $dist...\n";



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Xprinter problem with StarOffice

[Johnny Stevenson]

I have Debian 1.2 and (successfully) installed StarOffice in /usr/local.

I ran setup as a user successfully, with no errors reported.

Each time I run swriter3 I get an error:

Xprinter not found  
XPPATH incorrectly set.

(or something very similar)

I have XPPATH set to:
/usr/local/StartOffice-3.1/xpm

So unless this is wrong then I do not know how to fix the problem.

Any advice would be most appreciated.
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Re: mc problem

[Paul Seelig]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindsay Allen) writes:

> I am nearly certain that, some time back, I could put the cursor (in mc)
> over a .deb file, press Enter and find myself "inside" the package.  I can
> do it right now on .tar.gz files, but with .deb files it shows a
> directory OTHER with a filesize of 0.  
> 
I have made my own mc-4.0.deb as well and don't experience the
problems outlined above.  Does this happen with'every *.deb you try?
One thing you might try is to delete all your ~/.mc.* files (better
back them up first!) and try using the defaults.
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Re: off topic: password strategy as an ISP

[Pavel Galynin]

hello,

Nils Rennebarth wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Pavel Galynin wrote:
> >> attempts to telnet from the one source, but as we've disabled shell
> >> access for dial-in clients it'll just give them motd if they do get in
> >> that way!
> >
> >i'm not at all knowledgeable in linux, but chsh changes a default shell
> >of the user in /etc/passwd. (at least on sunOS)
> Yes, but how do you run it without getting a shell login in the first
> place?

some admins suid cgi scripts, like phf, php, jj and glimpse (the latest
victim). all those buffer overflows in suid shell scripts, uid:0
daemons, etc. enough? ;))

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Re: octave

[Carey Evans]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Thanks to the many who helped yesterday. Octave complained that it needed
> libg++, even though it wasn't listed dependent on it. I tried to install
> libg++27_2.7.2.1-6.deb.
> When I did, dpkg found several packages in available that had the
> version field empty. I looked at the file and each of those packages had
> versions x:yz . I changed them to x.yz and that seemed to allow dpkg to
> proceed.

[snip]

Presumably you still have mostly Debian 1.1.  You should read the
parts of the upgrade notes for 1.3 about upgrading dpkg before doing
anything else to your system, although I'm not sure what state your
system will be in now that you fudged the version fields like that.

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Re: off topic: password strategy as an ISP

[Nils Rennebarth]

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On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Pavel Galynin wrote:
>> attempts to telnet from the one source, but as we've disabled shell
>> access for dial-in clients it'll just give them motd if they do get in
>> that way!
>
>i'm not at all knowledgeable in linux, but chsh changes a default shell
>of the user in /etc/passwd. (at least on sunOS)
Yes, but how do you run it without getting a shell login in the first
place?

Nils

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Re: off topic: password strategy as an ISP

[Pavel Galynin]

hello,

John Foster wrote:
> 
> We use the following strategy:
> 
> 1) Generate a list of passwords with pwgen

could you describe this utility?

> 2) On a SP2 supercomputer, try to crack them (after feeding them
> through crypt).

do you use a wordlist and if so, how big?

> 3) Those who can't be cracked go into a safe, to be allocated when
> users sign up.

then, you depend upon a wordlist. if you tested passwords on a small
one, crackers may get lucky on one of those 11 mb ones on the coast
security archives. as far as i know, all passwords can be cracked using
brute force. (at least i had a 100% success)

> The company I work for was very badly hacked (rm -fR *), which is how
> I got my job (as a repairman!). They are now somewhat paranoid!

then they must have been really insecure. only very lame people would
ever do that.

> Just as a Debian is cool story:
> 
> When they lost all their servers they were running Slacware 2
> (shudders!). I refused to rebuild the system with Slackware so they
> said, "OK, use Redhat". I installed Redhat (2 I think) and managed to
> crack it within a week.

Redhat - the breakin paradise. last week, the whole #hack channel sat on
#linux, noted down the ip addies of people who installed it and rooted
them. ever saw an inetd.conf on a fresh install of redhat 4.2? just one
unpatched version of imapd is sufficient ;)

> So I put Debian 1.2.4 on (I'd been using Debian in a research
> environment for some time), and since then I've seen a few attempts in
> the logs, but as far as I know no-one has got in who shouldn't!

it doesn't mean they haven't ;))

> I'm not so naive as to believe that Debian is 100% secure (that's
> impossible I reckon), but it seems to cope OK for a smallish ISP. I
> find some interesting things in the logs, like 500 consecutive
> attempts to telnet from the one source, but as we've disabled shell
> access for dial-in clients it'll just give them motd if they do get in
> that way!

i'm not at all knowledgeable in linux, but chsh changes a default shell
of the user in /etc/passwd. (at least on sunOS)

> On the subject of pwgen though, there is a definate pattern to the
> passwords it generates. This does concern me a bit.

yep, that would certainly make it more susceptible to lame newbie
attacks.

paul


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Re: Anyone using Real Audio

[Lawrence]

Jim Pick wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone got Real Audio working, when ever I have tried to use it, it
> > buffered the data, and then just quit, with the stderr going to netscape
> > saying "Signall 11".  Is this a case, where Real Audio has to be
> > LD_PRELOAD'd with something.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Shaya
> 
> Everytime I tried it, it crashed X on me - probably since I'm using
> the Matrox XFree86 driver in 24bit mode, which isn't 100% bug free.
> So I gave up.

Try their lastest version 3.1.5, it may fix your BUG.

Lawrence


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Re: Way to set up a MacFiles virtual drive?

[Craig Sanders]

On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote:

> Way back when I was working at one of my older jobs we used Macs and
> UNIX stations. Our unix accounts had a MacFiles directory that allowed
> a mac to connect to it like it was a regular mac drive.
>
> Now at my new job I am using Mac and Linux systems. Is there a way I
> can add MacFiles support to my system? I saw several mac programs, but
> non had MacFiles listed. Is there a MacFiles or will I have to use
> something else to accomplish this?

netatalk does what you want - it's an appletalk file & print server for
unix.  also allows unix machines to use other files & printers on other
appletalk servers.

netatalk is available as a debian package.  I used to use it on my network
here at home (I had a Mac IIcx with an ethernet card here for about a
year).

BTW, unless there is now a linux driver for localtalk cards then this
is only useful if your macs have ethernet cards. I have heard of a few
drivers being developed for linux, but don't know of any that have been
released.

craig

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Re: questions about new releases

[Jaakko Niemi]

>> How much faster? If it's a lot faster, it might be worth trying.


 It´s a bit faster (5->xx%). And I mean the binaries compiled. I tried it 
(almost two years 
 ago ?? :-)), and it didn´t quite work then. It would be though nice to have 
debianized
 packages of pentium-optimize pieces in (let´s say) "unstable-pentium". Well, 
the most
 speed-critical parts at least, and compiler. 

 Of course separately, because 486 ain´t obsolete yet!


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Re: Can't execute slrn in 1.3.1

[joost witteveen]

> On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
> 
> > Bob,
> > 
> > I believe I've seen this message on a script when the path is incorrect on
> > the first line.  Try this: "file /usr/bin/slrn".  If that doesn't provide
> > anything useful, and it doesn't say anything about it being ELF, view it
> > with more or less to see what the first line points too.
> 
> It does say ELF.  When viewing it, I see /lib/ld-linux-so.2 whereas I have
> /lib/ld-linux-so.1 (from ldso_1.8.10-2, which is the latest in bo).  Could
> slrn have been built with a later version?


Yes, slrn is fully libc6, whereas you don't have a libc6 capable
ldso installed (nor, do I think, do you have libc6 on your system).
Upgrad ldso to unstable, and install libc6.

Optional: check "dpkg -s slrn", and see if it does depend on
libc6. If not, file a bug against slrn.

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dselect ftp hamm

[Victor Torrico]

I have had no problems using dselect ftp to install files from all
directories but hamm.  I answer the ftp prompts in an obvious fashion
and voila everything works OK.

What do I do to install files from /debian/hamm/hamm
/debian/hamm/contrib and /debian/hamm/non-free?  That is, how do I
answer the ftp prompts from dselect so that I can install the files from
the above directories?  I've tried various answers to the prompts with
no success.  It's driving me bananas.  Another of life's little
mysteries.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Victor


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Debian and Cybercash?

[Roger Endo]

Has anyone tried to install the cybercash module on a debian
system.  It is supposed to work on a red hat system, but since
it is a .tgz, we'd figure to try it on debian.  We get pretty
far except that it gets stuck on host name lookups.  It calls
remote addresses, and if I hardcode these remote addresses
into the /etc/hosts file, then it works.  If I rely on DNS,
then it doesn't work.  DNS works for all other applications.

Thanks in advance,
Roger
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Re: 3COM 3C905-TX PCI NIC

[Philippe Troin]

On Thu, 03 Jul 1997 16:49:14 CDT m* ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Dave Cinege wrote:
> > 
> > I call upon you Kernel gods. You see, it will not end by itself. Please put
> > the words "and 3c90x" on the vortex driver line in the configs. (Or someone
> > submit a patch. I don't know how)
> 
> are the 90x cards even supported yet?

Well, I just bought one after my transceiver died on an old 3c509, and to my 
disapointment, it didn't work under 2.0.30 (device or resource busy it said).
I went to the hardware howto, and found a link to Donald Becker's homepage.
There's an upgraded version of 3c59x.c which works ok with my 3c905.
It's a drop-in replacement.

The URL is:
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html

I've haven't tried it with 100Mbps though...

Phil.



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Re: epson Stylus 600

[Philippe Troin]

On Thu, 03 Jul 1997 03:27:15 MDT Anthony Fok ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
) wrote:

> which describes the EPSON Stylus COLOR printers support in Ghostscript
> 4.03.  The Stylus COLOR printer driver was written for older models, but
> they work with newer models including COLOR 500, 600 and 800, up to
> 720x720 dpi.  (No, not 1440x720dpi with gs 4.03.)  Also, the colour setup
> was probably optimized for older models, so they might not look good (too
> dark or too bright?) on your COLOR 600.  (At least it is so on my 500)

I've got a postscript initialization file to feed gs to correct colors for 
Stylus-500. Just in case you're interested :-)

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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

[Philippe Troin]

Well I still get:
ERROR: File not found
Cant load plugin /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/libnullplugin.so. Ignored.
ERROR: File not found
Cant load plugin /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/libnullplugin.so. Ignored.

But the files are there...
Whatever, it seems to be working ok...

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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

[Alex Yukhimets]

> On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> 
> > > > 
> > > > Communicator 4.01b6 works great here too!  However, it seems to be a
> > > > memory hog, and the memory usage just keeps growing, sometimes up to 40 
> > > > MB
> > > > virtual memory (?) (and X was taking over 30 MBs by then too) and by 
> > > > that
> > > > time I would just quit and restart Netscape so I wouldn't run out of
> > > > memory.  Maybe part of the reason is that I am using some big Chinese
> > > > fonts?  :)  But other than that, it is one of the most stable release!
> > > > The response was fast and quick too! 
> > > 
> > > And they include a dynamically linked version too.  
> > 
> > Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
>   ^^^
> 
> Does it mean it works with lesstif, which is claimed to be code
> compatible with Motif 1.2 ?

*Source* code compatible, not _binary_ compatible!
The answer is   NO, it won't work with lesstif. 

> 
> If so, it's a good news.
> 

Guys, Motif and Lesstif have very little in common, really...

Alex Y.

> HH
> 
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Help! I broke 'man'!!

[Tim]

I think I broke 'man'.. It says it's updating the index cache, and hangs
that way until it's stopped. I did delete a file in /tmp, called
zman___aaa, since there was a message saying it couldn't do anything
because this file was there. Was that a mistake? I though things is /tmp
were temporary and that these files were not critical.

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Re: Anyone using Real Audio

[Jim Pick]

> Has anyone got Real Audio working, when ever I have tried to use it, it
> buffered the data, and then just quit, with the stderr going to netscape
> saying "Signall 11".  Is this a case, where Real Audio has to be
> LD_PRELOAD'd with something.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Shaya

Everytime I tried it, it crashed X on me - probably since I'm using
the Matrox XFree86 driver in 24bit mode, which isn't 100% bug free.
So I gave up.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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X finally working! ...but in the wrong resolution...

[Curt Howland]

Evening, all. I finally have X working, olvwm is no longer
crashing and burning. Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] for your pointing
me in the right direction (and my finding the manual for the
video card).

However, I am now in the unenviable positionn of 640x480 only.
While the chip set was supported, none of the other information
was clear as to what to set.

So the question is: Trident TVGA8900CL with 1M, capable of 
1024x768x256 interlaced or non. I know the monitor worked fine
under wimpdoze95 in 1024x768x256, so what I need are the settings
for that resolution for that card. Hunting and pecking has not
yealded much success...

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Re: xinitrc vs. xsession (was Re: Window Managers)

[Buddha Buck]

> On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Gary L. Dolan wrote:
> 
> > I hate to think that my version of 1.2 (now 1.3) is idiosyncratic, but the
> > global xsession and the global xinitrc files are identical. I have attempted
> > in my own halting way to parse my way thru the file(s), and the result 
> > appears to me to be that some resource files do not get read. I would be
> > pleased if someone would correct my impression if I am wrong.
> 
> 
> My second point is (possibly a bug). Shouldn't /etc/Xsession have $startup
> defined as .xsession and /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc have $startup defined as
> ..xinitrc? At the moment, both files have $startup defined as .xsession. Is
> this a bug?

On my system (using XFree86 3.3-3, except for xbase, which is 3.3-2), 
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc is a symbolic link to /etc/X11/Xsession, which 
is how you described it.  So the global xsession and the global xinitrc 
are in fact the same file.

My $HOME on my system only has a .xsession, but on other accounts, I 
routinely have .xinitrc a symlink to .xsession, so I only have to deal 
with one startup file.

Perhaps it should be better documented that .xsession and 
/etc/X11/Xsession are the Debian way to do it.  When I was figuring 
this out months ago, it was a tedious matter of chasing through man 
pages to find the config files that specified the start-up scripts, 
which were symlinks to the real scripts, etc, all to find out that I 
was looking for .xsession.


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Re: Can't execute slrn in 1.3.1

[Bob Nielsen]

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> I believe I've seen this message on a script when the path is incorrect on
> the first line.  Try this: "file /usr/bin/slrn".  If that doesn't provide
> anything useful, and it doesn't say anything about it being ELF, view it
> with more or less to see what the first line points too.

It does say ELF.  When viewing it, I see /lib/ld-linux-so.2 whereas I have
/lib/ld-linux-so.1 (from ldso_1.8.10-2, which is the latest in bo).  Could
slrn have been built with a later version?

> 
> The other message about ldd should also be looked into.

ldd /usr/bin/slrn gives:

ldd: can't execute /usr/bin/slrn (No such file or directory)

Bob


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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

[Hong Huang]

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:

> > > 
> > > Communicator 4.01b6 works great here too!  However, it seems to be a
> > > memory hog, and the memory usage just keeps growing, sometimes up to 40 MB
> > > virtual memory (?) (and X was taking over 30 MBs by then too) and by that
> > > time I would just quit and restart Netscape so I wouldn't run out of
> > > memory.  Maybe part of the reason is that I am using some big Chinese
> > > fonts?  :)  But other than that, it is one of the most stable release!
> > > The response was fast and quick too! 
> > 
> > And they include a dynamically linked version too.  
> 
> Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
  ^^^

Does it mean it works with lesstif, which is claimed to be code
compatible with Motif 1.2 ?

If so, it's a good news.

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Re: About Debian CD Image

[Bruce Perens]

Many CD programs will take ISO image files. I don't have instructions on
many yet, here are the two I have so far.

Thanks

Bruce

Here are notes for writing Debian's ISO 9660 CD image files using various
CD-writing programs:



"Cdwrite"

Cdwrite is in a free Debian package. Most development of late seems to
be happening to a program called "cdrecord", which might eventually
replace "cdwrite". It works on drives from Yamaha, Philips, Kodak,
IMS, and HP.  I use "cdwrite" on my Yamaha 4X writer with no problem.
The flags I give it are:

cdwrite \
--eject \
--verbose \
--speed 4 \
--device /dev/sg0 \
--yamaha \
/mnt/binary.iso



"Easy CD" - Would more accurately be called "No CD".

"Easy CD", which comes with many drives shipped by Philips and other
companies, doesn't recognize the ISO image files created by the Debian
"mkisofs" program. It's no doubt a simple problem, since we conform to
the ISO 9660 CD standard, but their customer support staff says "We
don't support Linux" and won't tell us anything else. If you are
ordering a drive that comes with "Easy CD", tell the dealer you already
know it won't work for your application and you'd like another program
in its place. If you have it now, plug the drive into a Linux system
and use "cdwrite" or "cdrecord" instead.

Thanks

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mc problem

[Lindsay Allen]

I am nearly certain that, some time back, I could put the cursor (in mc)
over a .deb file, press Enter and find myself "inside" the package.  I can
do it right now on .tar.gz files, but with .deb files it shows a
directory OTHER with a filesize of 0.  

I had a look on the mc www page and saw a reference to this but no mention
of how to fix it.  The Debian mc package maintainer seems to have lost
interest and a self compiled mc-4 does exactly the same thing.

This is an extract from my mc.ext:-

# deb
regex/\.deb$
   Open=%cd deb:%d/%p/


and I have also tried this:-
# deb
regex/\.deb$
   Open=%cd deb:%d/%p/
   View=%view{ascii} dpkg-deb -c %f

Any ideas?
Lindsay


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Re: Can't execute slrn in 1.3.1

[Brandon Mitchell]

Bob,

I believe I've seen this message on a script when the path is incorrect on
the first line.  Try this: "file /usr/bin/slrn".  If that doesn't provide
anything useful, and it doesn't say anything about it being ELF, view it
with more or less to see what the first line points too.

The other message about ldd should also be looked into.

HTH,
Brandon

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On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> I updated to 1.3.1 from 1.3 and now I get the following when I try to run
> slrn:
> 
> [nielsen:nielsen]$ ls -al /usr/bin/slrn
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   171072 Jun 23 08:26 /usr/bin/slrn
> [nielsen:nielsen]$ /usr/bin/slrn
> bash: /usr/bin/slrn: No such file or directory
> 
> It's really there (or is it?)
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
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Re: Can't execute slrn in 1.3.1

[Christian Hudon]

On Jul 3, Bob Nielsen wrote
> I updated to 1.3.1 from 1.3 and now I get the following when I try to run
> slrn:
> 
> [nielsen:nielsen]$ ls -al /usr/bin/slrn
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   171072 Jun 23 08:26 /usr/bin/slrn
> [nielsen:nielsen]$ /usr/bin/slrn
> bash: /usr/bin/slrn: No such file or directory
> 
> It's really there (or is it?)

If memory serves, you get that error message when you're trying to run a
libc6 program without libc6's dynamic linker. Do "ldd /usr/bin/slrn" and
see what it tells you.

If the slrn from stable needs libc6, then you should definitely file a bug
report against it.

  Christian


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About Debian CD Image

[Alex Fan]

I can download the Debian Linux Distribution CD image from Debian FTP
site.  But anyone can tell me what CD-Writer software should I use to
write the image to the CD-W?

Thank you in advance.

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Re: A Basic Question

[Randy Edwards]

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Alex Fan wrote:

> Where can I find a Debian Distribution?  Is it avilable on CDs or just
> from download?

   Both.  You can find info for downloading from www.debian.org, you can ftp
it from ftp.debian.org or one of its mirrors, and if you want it on CD,
check out www.lsl.com who has the official Debian 2-CD set for $4.95.

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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

[Anthony Fok]

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Shaya Potter wrote:

> > memory.  Maybe part of the reason is that I am using some big Chinese
> > fonts?  :)  But other than that, it is one of the most stable release!
> > The response was fast and quick too! 
> 
> And they include a dynamically linked version too.  

Oh yeah!  Thanks!  :)  No wonder the download was over 9MB!  :)  Too bad I
don't have Motif... Maybe some day.  ^_^

Anthony


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source missing for pcmcia-modules

[Mark Phillips]

Am I mistaken or is the source for the two pcmcia-modules packages
missing in the source directory of bo?

First the modules package doesn't work properly, now I can't even get
the source to compile it myself!


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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

[Alex Yukhimets]

> On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Anthony Fok wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Victor Torrico wrote:
> > 
> > > The new Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 installs nicely using the Debian
> > > netscape-beta package.  It seems to be very stable but then again I
> > > never had problems with Communicator 4.0b5.
> > 
> > [deleted for brevity]
> > 
> > Communicator 4.01b6 works great here too!  However, it seems to be a
> > memory hog, and the memory usage just keeps growing, sometimes up to 40 MB
> > virtual memory (?) (and X was taking over 30 MBs by then too) and by that
> > time I would just quit and restart Netscape so I wouldn't run out of
> > memory.  Maybe part of the reason is that I am using some big Chinese
> > fonts?  :)  But other than that, it is one of the most stable release!
> > The response was fast and quick too! 
> 
> And they include a dynamically linked version too.  

Well, true, but it was linked against Motif 1.2 which make it useless
for most of us who has Motif 2.0 :(


Alex Y.

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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

[Shaya Potter]

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Anthony Fok wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Victor Torrico wrote:
> 
> > The new Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 installs nicely using the Debian
> > netscape-beta package.  It seems to be very stable but then again I
> > never had problems with Communicator 4.0b5.
> 
> [deleted for brevity]
> 
> Communicator 4.01b6 works great here too!  However, it seems to be a
> memory hog, and the memory usage just keeps growing, sometimes up to 40 MB
> virtual memory (?) (and X was taking over 30 MBs by then too) and by that
> time I would just quit and restart Netscape so I wouldn't run out of
> memory.  Maybe part of the reason is that I am using some big Chinese
> fonts?  :)  But other than that, it is one of the most stable release!
> The response was fast and quick too! 

And they include a dynamically linked version too.  

Shaya


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Re: laptop install problem - pcmcia-eth card can't access internet

[Adam Shand]

>>The problem could be that I can't install pcmcia-modules properly (as
>>outlined in my previous email) but I'm not sure if this is the problem or
>>the only problem.
>
>Just wanted to say that you are not alone. :-)

You are definately not alone.  I wrestled with this all last night and the
night before only to finally figure out that for reasons I don't understand
the i8234 (it's called something like this but I can't remember what)
module which seems to be the basic module that must be loaded before all else.

>But the driver complains about unresolvable symbols, some of these:
>netif_rx_R9117ffb8
>dev_alloc_skb_R24ee337ab
>ether_setup_...
>eth_type_trans_...
>dev_kfree_skb_...

These are the same errors I had only with New Media Ethernet LAN card.

>(My PCMCIA modem-card is working though.)

Mine works fine under Windows95.  It is now recogised (after I installed it
as source and compiled it) under Linux and I can ping the interface but I
can't make it any further then that (damn it).  I'll have a better play soon.

The only other thing I've found is that cardinfo (the pretty X program to
monitor PCMCIA ports) seems rooted and doesn't report anything true, unless
that's a symptom of the problem.  For example when everything reports the
card as being eth0 card info reports it as eth1.

I also found that hot swap doesn't seem fully supported since if you pull
the card out and then put it back in (yes the same slot) it swaps from eth0
to eth1.  It's also possible that I've missed something or that it's just
the driver itself that it faulty.

Adam.


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Re: A Basic Question

[Shaya Potter]

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Alex Fan wrote:

> Thanks for those who replied to my last question.
> 
> Here is another:
> 
> Where can I find a Debian Distribution?  Is it avilable on CDs or just
> from download?
> 

You can either download the floppies, and install the base system, and
then ftp the rest over.  This is workable if you have a decent internet
connection.  Otherwise, it would be better to buy a CD.  You can look at
LSL, homepage.  www.lsl.com

Shaya


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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 works fine

[Anthony Fok]

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Victor Torrico wrote:

> The new Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 installs nicely using the Debian
> netscape-beta package.  It seems to be very stable but then again I
> never had problems with Communicator 4.0b5.

[deleted for brevity]

Communicator 4.01b6 works great here too!  However, it seems to be a
memory hog, and the memory usage just keeps growing, sometimes up to 40 MB
virtual memory (?) (and X was taking over 30 MBs by then too) and by that
time I would just quit and restart Netscape so I wouldn't run out of
memory.  Maybe part of the reason is that I am using some big Chinese
fonts?  :)  But other than that, it is one of the most stable release!
The response was fast and quick too!  The thing that slows it down was all
the swapping and grinding that my hard drive makes.  (I have 32 MB RAM and
64 MB swap; Netscape and X together use over half of that... :)

Anyway, for some reason, 4.0b5 was very unstable on my computer.  It
crashed very often.  Maybe it wasn't built for libc 5.4.33?  ^_^

Anthony

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A Basic Question

[Alex Fan]

Thanks for those who replied to my last question.

Here is another:

Where can I find a Debian Distribution?  Is it avilable on CDs or just
from download?

Alex



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pcmcia modules problem

[Mark Phillips]

You wrote:

> I've had problems in the past with the pcmcia packages.  My
> solution was to use both the kernel source and pcmcia
> source packages and build custom binaries myself.  Make sure
> you build the modules from the kernel package.  You will
> probably have to define some aliases in /etc/modules.conf as
> well.

What do you mean here by defining "some aliases in /etc/modules.conf"?

Thanks for your help.



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Can't execute slrn in 1.3.1

[Bob Nielsen]

I updated to 1.3.1 from 1.3 and now I get the following when I try to run
slrn:

[nielsen:nielsen]$ ls -al /usr/bin/slrn
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   171072 Jun 23 08:26 /usr/bin/slrn
[nielsen:nielsen]$ /usr/bin/slrn
bash: /usr/bin/slrn: No such file or directory

It's really there (or is it?)

Bob


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Digests

[Tommy]

Are the various debian lists available in digest formant?  If so what is
the procedure for setting delivery for digest.  Thanks



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Is there a Debian mpr package?

[teague]

Hi

I uploaded the mpr-1.6.tar.gz from sunsite today.  I have looked for a
Debian mpr package without success at ftp.debian.org and at
debian.crosslink.net. 

Does a Debian mpr package exist? If not, would anyone find it useful for
me to package it?


About the program, from the lsm:

Title:  mpr - a poor man's memory profiler for Unix programs
Version:1.6
Entered-date:   16APR97
Description:mpr can be used to find malloc/realloc memory leaks and
memory allocation statistics and patterns - it does not
find memory corruption errors.
Keywords:   memory leak, memory profile, malloc
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Taj Khattra)
Maintained-by:  
Primary-site:   sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/devel/lang/c
93156   mpr-1.6.tar.gz
699 mpr-1.5.lsm
Alternate-site: 
Original-site:  
Platforms:  x86-linux, x86-sco, vax-ultrix
Copying-policy: almost public domain


The coping policy, from the package is:


Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any
purpose on any computer system, and to redistribute it freely,
subject to the following restrictions:

1. The author is not responsible for the consequences of use of
   this software, no matter how awful, even if they arise
   from defects in it.

2. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented, either
   by explicit claim or by omission.

3. Altered versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not
   be misrepresented as being the original software.

4. This notice may not be removed or altered.



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