Problem w/ sh at boot
I am getting the following at boot and shutdown, with linux 2.0.29. What should I do? Starting system daemon: syslogd klogd Starting kerneld, version 2.1.34 (pid 119) sh: no job control in this shell sh-2.00# _ Stopping periodic command scheduler: cron. sh: no job control in this shel sh-2.00# _ rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xemacs and mailcrypt?
I use gnus in xemacs for my mail, so I have tried to run mailcrypt for pgp encoding messages. Every time I try it I get the message "Found no signed message in this buffer", but I clearly see there is a signed message with the pgp headers: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- -END PGP SIGNATURE- If I save the message, then pgp can verify the signature, so pgp is not the problem. I have reduced my .xemacs-options, .emacs, and .gnus to about the minimum usable, but I do have the hooks set up as the gnus documentation specifies. Mailcrypt will allow me to sign my own messages, but then can't verify the signature because of the above problem. Is this an xemacs package problem, or have I missed something in configuring my system? Is anybody else using xemacs with gnus and mailcrypt? I looked through the bug tracking system, but I didn't see any related reports under either xemacs or mailcrypt. -- Carl Johnson[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: using menu in debian 1.3.1?
joost witteveen wrote: > rulcmc:/usr/lib/menu$ ls |wc > 75 75 519 Unless you have ls aliased to ls -l or something, that's not a very accurate number. ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/menu>ls -l | wc -l 102 > So, that's 74 packages on my system, and I don't have all packages installed > that use it. I estimate that about 1/2 or more of all packages that should > have menu entries have them now. But that is in "unstable". 1/2 seems about right. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Textbook for Sys Admin with Linux
I will teach System Administration this autumn as part of the U Chicago CS Dep't's "conversion masters" program, for graduates of non-CS curricula who want computing jobs. The intent of the course is not to train them for direct employement as sys admins; rather we intend to acculturate them as hackers and give them a useful experience. The course will use Linux, with Debian as the standard distribution. I will value any advice regarding the best way to conduct such a course. I *particularly* need to find a good textbook. Thanks in advance for your help. If you would like to reply to me directly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I will summarize replies for the list. Thanks, Mike O'Donnell -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: installing debian packages to an other fs as root
Martin Steigerwald writes: > Is it possible to use dpkg to install debian packages to an other > filesystem as /root? dpkg --root=/I-am-a-idiot/ -i pkg1.deb pkg2.deb Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / Mensch soll es nicht glauben:/ /eMail ist zum Kommunizieren geeignet. -- Lutz Donnerhacke / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
installing debian packages to an other fs as root
Hi! Is it possible to use dpkg to install debian packages to an other filesystem as /root? I might need to install a new base system onto a free partition in order to get my broken debian system fixed without to much hassle. I would then like to boot this base system and install working base packages over the broken ones in my broken system. I therefore want to mount this broken system under e.g. /I-am-a-idiot/ and then tell dpkg to just install the packages there... then installing libreadline2 onto my broken system again might already get it so far that I can boot it. Ideally I would like a way to get it to boot from a rescue discs, but I dont think that this is possible as I have to get the packages from the internet cause the cd-rom drive is broken and I have only Debian 1.2 CD. -- |_| _ |o _ _ Martin Steigerwald | |(/_||(_)_> http://home.pages.de/~helios -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Modprobe error and kerneld question
I fixed the binfmt_java problem. It seems that there was an alias (I know not from where it is not in conf.modules) for binfmt-310 binfmt_java. When I try to run java progs it looks for binfmt--310 (note the two dashes), so I added an alias to binfmt--310 and voila it worked. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How I fixed my trashed Debian system
> OK. If this helps just one person I think it's worth typing up. I welcome > any suggestions of things I may have missed fixing or cleaning up. Thank you very much. Hmmm, this looks rather complicated and time consuming. I which there would be an easier way... I am always thinking wether it is enough to get libreadline working and to try if the system might boot then again. Once I am in and once I can at least run dpkg from a console I might be able to get at least that base packages to work again. Geee... I am looking for a way to fix this broken system without sitting ours upon it. Richard Morin told me to look at /etc/inetd.conf and to copy the backup of this file back and he told me that this should help me to get into the system. But that I thought this problem is libreadline related cause of the error messages that librealine.so.2 could not be loaded. Hmm at least that will teach me not to use an unstable distribution once again on a system I need for work. (It at least should tell me that;-) -- |_| _ |o _ _ Martin Steigerwald | |(/_||(_)_> http://home.pages.de/~helios -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
lilo and linux
Hi there.., I am a newbie in linux( debian ), I had just installed the debian linux in hdb1, but I had trouble configuring the lilo, my system is 166mmx, 64 megs of sdram, previously installed NT40 and win95, can anyone out there please tell me where to start with this so call lilo? Please.. The next will be installing the inet stuffs, like browser, mail, news and irc client.., can anyone suggest me a good one, where how am I going to start.., I am totally blind with this new os, how am I going to connect to my Isp? Actually I had a lot more to ask, but I think it will be enough for this mail. ps. I can not find any book regarding linux or unix in my country (Indonesia), but I had ordered unix unleashed, so it will take some time for me to get it. regards gulp -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [XINETD] manpage missing FIXED
On 7 Aug, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Do I have to upgrade man page index somehow? > Lesson learned: Debian is always right. Read man page carefully :) > You could try mandb, although I never called it mayself and never had problems when I installed manpages to /usr/local. Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: configuring lilo
On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Wiria Atmadja Kusuma wrote: > Hi there.., I am a newbie in linux( debian ), I had just installed the > debian linux in hdb1, but I had trouble configuring the lilo, my system is > 166mmx, 64 megs of sdram, previously installed NT40 and win95, can anyone > out there please tell me where to start with this so call lilo? Please.. Debian has documentation for most packages in /usr/doc, for example /usr/doc/lilo. You can also look at the man pages. lilo is not too difficult to set up with the documentation in hand. -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help: How do I change my display mode
On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, T.G.H. de Grunt wrote: > Hi, > > I'm programming in C++ and I want to > change my displaymode to the 132 columns mode. > How do I do that ?! Get svgatextmode in /admin Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Fwd: qmail]
"Davinder Pal Singh \(STEP\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello Friends, > I am pretty new to Debian Linux. I have installed Debian 1.3.xx on a > 100 Mhz Pentium PC. > But I am unable to start openwindow. I have installed the olvwm > *.deb package with the help of dpkg and xserver etc. before > that. But somehow I am not able to start openwin. The message I get > is > > xterm: no available ptys. > > My question is do I have to insatll ptys. If yes then where do fidnd > the (which package). I will thankful if someone could help. ptys are devices located in the /dev directory. The easiest way to install them is to cd to /dev and run ./MAKEDEV ptys Hopefully the error message will go away after this, Torsten -- "What a depressingly stupid machine" The Restaurant at the End of the Universe PGP Public Key is available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Outputting tabs with sed
"Oliver Elphick" writes: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, writes: > > > > How can I output tabs with sed? > > > > I need something like: `s//\t' > > In theory, sed -e 's// /' >^ >| >tab char > > should work, but it doesn't. I think that bash gets in the way when you > do it from the command line. Remember to quote the tab pressing Ctrl-V prior while inserting it. Maybe this the reason for the sed command not working in the command line. Torsten -- "What a depressingly stupid machine" The Restaurant at the End of the Universe PGP Public Key is available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems when booting from the OfficialCD
Nils Inge Lilleheie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have problems when I try to boot from the (binary) official CD on the > Digital Celebris GL180 PC's. > > The PC recognize the CD to be bootable and displays: > >LDLINUX.SYS 1.30 96/11/04 Copyright (C) 1994-96 H. Peter Arvin > > on the screen, but nothing more happens.. > > Does anybody know what might be the solution to this problem ? > > With regards What kind of BIOS do you have for booting from CD-ROM? I have the Adaptec 2940 (BIOS v1.23) with SCSI CD-ROM drive and run into the same problem (with Debian 1.3.1 as distributed by the german J.F.-Lehmann book shop). I assume it is some kind of BIOS problem, maybe I need a BIOS update of the SCSI controller for bootable CD-ROMs to work. BTW: I also tried the bootable FreeBSD 2.2.2 CD-ROM from Walnut with exactly the same result. Torsten -- "What a depressingly stupid machine" The Restaurant at the End of the Universe PGP Public Key is available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help: How do I change my display mode
> Hi,
>
> I'm programming in C++ and I want to
> change my displaymode to the 132 columns mode.
> How do I do that ?!
Take a look at "svgatextmode" package.
Alex Y.
>
> Thanx,
>
> Tom
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: File impossible to delete
I have the same problem. I have been running Debian 1.3.0 on a 2.0.30 kernel since April; before that I was running Slackware and this file has probably been around since then. Last fall when it was a Slackware system I tried running some 2.1.x kernels for a short time, probably 2.1.1x or 2.1.2x vintage, but not 2.1.4x. I have tried all the recent suggestions (except debugfs), and like Peter, none of them have worked. My undeletable file is: crw-rw-rw- 1 65535tty4, 65 Jul 17 1994 ttyS1 (Note the interesting owner name.) Just thought I would raise my hand and let you all know that Peter is not the Lone Ranger out there WRT this problem. :-) --ken -- __ Ken Lauffenburger / /__ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / D e b i a n G N U \ \/ / / / __ __ __ \ / / / / / / _ \ / / / / / \ ...Look out Bill, / /___ / / / / ) // (_/ / / /\ \ here comes... (__)(_/ (_/ (_/ \/ (_/ \_) http://www.debian.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Help: How do I change my display mode
Hi, I'm programming in C++ and I want to change my displaymode to the 132 columns mode. How do I do that ?! Thanx, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
quick one
my hopes are higher now than ever that Linux will rise above the frankenstein gangster alliances. i'd also like to extend my appreciation to everyone involved with the Debian project! m* -- "The Shining One" -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Driver installation problems
>>Rob Browning wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> The modem in the PC is an ISA card modem. Will this map to one of >> the /dev/ ttyS's? Rember, I'm primarily a Mac person, so I don't >> know an IRQ from my left knee, and to me an I/O address is a place >> one one of the moons of Jupiter that the postman delivers mail to. ... > >What you'd really like is something like this: > >/dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) >/dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) >/dev/ttyS2 at 0x0??? (irq = 5) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) Hopefully your modem is smart enough to have jumpers or dip switches selecting COM port and IRQ. Selecting COM3 and IRQ5 should give you this from setserial: /dev/ttyS2 at 0x03e8 (irq = 5) is a [8250|16450|16550A] There are couple of gotchas, though. Hopefully you won't run into them... >> I'll download the software directly that way. In the meantime, >> anyone else have any ideas? I could use MacGZip to gzip the .deb >> files and transfer them on a PC-formatted floppy, but would I get >> much compression, or are the files already compressed to the max? > >.deb files are already compressed, so you'd be wasting your time. Disk images, however, will probably compress. Get gzip.exe for DOS to uncompress them and you'll be able to use 1.44 floppies. I think nobody had "can't find misc.o" problems with 1.44 floppies recently. -- Dimitri reply to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au --- What color is a chameleon on a mirror? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
configuring lilo
Hi there.., I am a newbie in linux( debian ), I had just installed the debian linux in hdb1, but I had trouble configuring the lilo, my system is 166mmx, 64 megs of sdram, previously installed NT40 and win95, can anyone out there please tell me where to start with this so call lilo? Please.. The next will be installing the inet stuffs, like browser, mail, news and irc client.., can anyone suggest me a good one, where how am I going to start.., I am totally blind with this new os, how am I going to connect to my Isp? Actually I had a lot more to ask, but I think it will be enough for this mail. ps. I can not find any book regarding linux or unix in my country (Indonesia), but I had ordered unix unleashed, so it will take some time for me to get it. regards gulp -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
libpthread.so and unstable/libreadline2
I've been upgrading a large part of my system to hamm so that I can use the hamm version of debmake. I've been getting _lots_ of ldconfig messages, especially one that says ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libpthread.so is not a shared library, skipping Also, installing libreadline2 out of hamm, I got ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libreadline.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libhistory.so (No such file or directory), skipping Is something wrong? Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: printers
On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Paul Miller wrote: > Is there a huge index or something that has all the settings for each > printer? I have a HP Deskjet 660C (600 dpi b&w, 300 dpi color).. any know > the settings? (I think everything is placed in the /etc/printcap) I assume you are using the standard Debian install of apsfilter. This, in turn, calls ghostscript and the printer-specific information is in the ghostscript binary. Version 4.03 (in Debian 1.3) supports several deskjets, but the 660C is not specifically named. Version 5.02 is the latest, but is not available yet in a Debian package. I expect that the cdj550 driver is probably your best bet for a 660C at this time. If you get the 5.02 sources and compile them yourself (not trivial) you might be able to access more of the newer features. For more information on printer compatibility, see: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/printer.html Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re.: printers
Yes! This is what I wanted... do you know if there are any other printer filters? -- It only supports up to Deskjet 550C (which is very similar and works) and what file types does it filter? -Paul On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Alan Eugene Davis wrote: > > > By the way, I may not have told you that I found that magicfilter was > just the thing. The debian package practically installs itself, and > it will step you through the process, and even create a working > /etc/printcap for you. > > Save your old printcap, and perhaps tack it on the end? > > Alan > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
magicfilter & Espon Stylus Color II
Has anyone already gotten magicfilter to work with the Espon Stylus Color
II (ink jet) printer? Is is compatiable with one of the other Espon ink
printers? I don't want to write my own configuration file if it has
already been done.
Thanks.
Bob
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Re: /etc/crontab.daily and the security hole in find | xargs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 9 Aug 1997, Carey Evans wrote: >> The only solution is to come up with a program that >> never follows syslinks, and checks that the i-node of the file it is >> removing remains the same. > >Actually, i-nodes can be recycled, so it isn't a good idea to depend >on that: The perl program that the discoverer of this security hole proposed will take care of this. It uses a lot of checks to make sure, the files to be deleted are the ones intended, and checking the inode number is only one of many tests. Unfortunately I forgot the URL where I read about this Nils - -- \ /| Nils Rennebarth --* WINDOWS 42 *-- | Schillerstr. 61 / \| 37083 Göttingen | ++49-551-71626 Micro$oft's final answer | http://www.nus.de/~nils -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBM+xqzVptA0IhBm0NAQFjDQL/ew6F2xXKldFd4jGNfopEyXDcxPmbtmLD SCp8l0zTmb+efcqWeSQx0W/tvZjhq0VEpvYIFoWYtwqXnGaYuZ9X5l6bhzxxsij2 n0Xyc4rSi4hoDbLaL8bpb2qPTWSHz0TW =N8PX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [XINETD] manpage missing FIXED
Hi, and many thanks to all the kind people who answered my question(*). I found xinetd.conf man page, so I checked out xinetd man page to see if a bug was lying there (referring to xinetd (5) instead of xinetd.conf (5)), but it was all ok. So I was wrong. But I remember not seeing a pointer to xinetd.conf somewhere. So I tried man -k xinetd.conf, and that's what it shows xinetd (1) - the internet extended service daemon xinetd.log (5) - xinetd service log format Do I have to upgrade man page index somehow? Lesson learned: Debian is always right. Read man page carefully :) (*) especially to Dimitri (Dima), Martin.Bialasinski and Oliver Elphick (thanks for manpage) -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]"No" is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
postgres uid/gid
I am running Debian 1.3.1. The following lines from /etc/passwd seem strange: majordom:x:30:31:majordom:/usr/lib/majordomo:/bin/sh postgres:x:31:32:postgres:/var/postgres:/bin/sh Is there a canonical list of what the preinstalled users should be? Thanks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: using menu in debian 1.3.1?
> > > On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Johann Spies wrote: > > > How do I use the menu-program? I have read the README-file and after that > > I do not understand at all how it can be useful. > > > > I am using fvwm2 and thought it could help to create menus, but after > > reading the README-file I think it will be easier to edit the > > ..fvwm2rc-file by hand. > > Is this program supposed to be a shortcut or not? It's supposed to allow packages add menu entries to your menu tree, in about every window manager that you may run. All you need to do is install menu and a window manager, and use eighter the default system.fvwm2rc from that window manager, or include the # Read the auto-generated menus Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook Read .fvwm2/menudefs.hook Mouse 1 R A Menu /Debian lines at the right place. > > I think it should make menu-creation easier, but only a few pkgs provide > the neccesary files which update-menu needs to create the menus rulcmc:/usr/lib/menu$ ls |wc 75 75 519 So, that's 74 packages on my system, and I don't have all packages installed that use it. I estimate that about 1/2 or more of all packages that should have menu entries have them now. But that is in "unstable". -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: memory usage
> [I have 64 RAM (EDO) and 64 swap] > > When I have the 'xosview' program up, it says that 97% of my memory is > used and 0% swap. Of the memory about 40% is 'used' 55% is 'shared' and > 1% is 'buffered' > What does this mean? I remember xosview giving rather bogus statistics at some time. Personaly, I would trust the restuls from "free" more. > Am I short on ram? When I open netscape, and all > six StarOffice programs (writer,calc,draw,math,image,chart) mem reads > about 1% used, 97% shared and 0% buffered. swap reads 8% used.. whats > the deal here? what does 'shared' memory mean? It's memory shared by more than one programme. For example, /lib/libc6 is only loaded once in memory, but about every programme you run uses it. So the memory taken up by /lib/libc6 is listed as "shared". If I recal correctly, "shared" really is the amount of memory you saved by the above trick, so you want "shared" to be as high as possible. Also "shared" can be much bigger than the total amount of memory (just load /lib/libc6 a thousand times in memory, you'll have saved 614 M, even on a 6 M machine). So, what xosview does in calculating persentages of "shared" mem is just bogus. Just another reason I didn't want to maintain xosview. As long as swap usage is low, and you don't notice too much swapping, I don't think you've got too little memory. But the output of "free" certainly tells more than "xosview". -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libreadline..
> > Hi! I'm trying to compile librl-2.0.3, but I'm getting the > following errors: > > [stress]:/usr/src/librl-2.0.3/readline# make install > ... > > if [ -f /usr/bin/"ranlib" ]; then ranlib -t /usr//lib/libreadline.a; fi > ranlib: /usr//lib/libreadline.a: no arquive map to update > make: *** [install] Error 1 > [stress]:/usr/src/librl-2.0.3/readline# > > Any ideas? Well, the only idea I have is "try the debian version": get the sources (.dsc, .tar.gz, .diff.gz) from any debian source mirror, and run dpkg-source -x libreadline*.dsc cd libreadline-* dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us (or, change that last step to "./debian/rules build" if all you want is build it. But apparently you don't, as you also did a "make isntall") -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Emacs and Xemacs on same system
> I know I have read something about the possibility of running emacs and > xemacs on the same system, but at that time I did not consider trying it > out. > > Is it possible? Yes. > If so, how do I get around dselect's refusal to install both? Use the versions from ``unstable'', they don't conflict. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Samba -- netbios
On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Paul Miller wrote: : The smbmount command can't locate any servers by their name (it works : with the IP -- also, smbclient does work w/ names). I think this has : something to do w/ netbios. Anyone know how to get this to work? Well, a `man smbmount' would give you enough information: Currently smbmount uses gethostbyname() to find the IP number of the desired host. It is thus not really com¡ patible with Lan Manager conventions, where the netbios name of the server is not necessarily the same as the hostname. In environments which enforce a netbios name that's different than the hostname, you should use -s and -c to simulate appropriate behaviour. It just isn't possible with this version of smbmount. Remco. -- // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://oloon.student.utwente.nl // " Never make any mistaeks. " -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Driver installation problems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The modem in the PC is an ISA card modem. Will this map to one of > the /dev/ ttyS's? Usually. The kernel serial drivers will identify modems at standard locations, because they look like serial ports. > I could use > MacGZip to gzip the .deb files and transfer them on a PC-formatted > floppy, but would I get much compression, or are the files already > compressed to the max? The latter. They're basically a header and a .tar.gz. (But why don't you try?) > Anyone know of a compression/archive format > that allows multi-volume archives with tools available for both > platforms? I used suntar on the Mac and `tar xvf /dev/fd0' on my Linux box. You don't get compression but you easily get any sized files across. I think it might also be possible to use it to write the resc1440.bin to a disk. -- Carey Evans <*> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "[UNIX] appears to have the inside track on being the replacement for CP/M on the largest microcomputers (e.g. those based on 68000...)" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bash command history
On Sat, 09 Aug 1997 02:22:32 EDT Paul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Is there any way to get bash to work like 4dos? -- If you type the first > couple of characters of a command in history, it will only scroll through > those commands begining with those characters... ^R aka CTRL-R man readline Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Driver installation problems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The modem in the PC is an ISA card modem. Will this map to one of > the /dev/ ttyS's? Rember, I'm primarily a Mac person, so I don't > know an IRQ from my left knee, and to me an I/O address is a place > one one of the moons of Jupiter that the postman delivers mail to. Welcome. I was a Mac user for many years. Switched to Debian, and never looked back (although IRQ's are spawn of satan). The hardware can be a pain at times, but the quality of the OS, the support, the performance, the features, and not least of all the philosophy far more than make up for any hardware problems. Note that you generally solve the hardware problems once, and then forget about them. > If Linux can find my modem. Should be able to, unless it's one of those evil WinModems (leaves out some of the chips to save money, and "lets" your CPU handle the job the missing hardware should have been doing). Linux doesn't handle those, but if it's a good old fashioned modem, you should be fine. Prepare for an intro to IRQs and IO ports. I tell you all this because I'm in the mood, and because you *may* need to know it if you have trouble getting the modem to work. IRQ's and I/O ports are system resources, and for the most part you can think of them as a way for hardware to communicate with the rest of the system. For example, a serial port generally needs a hardware address (I/O port) to send data to other devices, and an IRQ (Interrupt ReQuest line) to notify the CPU (or whoever) that it needs attention. A PC has only 15 IRQ's, and these have to be assigned across all the devices that need them. Generally devices cannot share IRQ's, and some devices require more than one. Also some IRQ's are already reserved by the motherboard. It would be nice if the system would just automatically arbitrate who gets which resources without you ever having to muck around with things, but in the PC world, it's not that simple. The PC is an old crufty architecture, so sometimes you have to help it along. Plug and Pray is an attempt to "fix" some of this, but in many cases it's caused as many problems as it's solved. What it boils down to is that for some devices you have to tell them which IRQ they should use, then you have to tell the system about your decision too. Telling the device may mean moving a jumper on the device or flipping a DIP switch, or it may mean going to the machine's BIOS setup screen and selecting some values. Telling the system (at least under linux, if it's necessary (linux can often auto-detect this stuff), usually means running a config program at boot). Most serial ports require one dedicated IRQ, and you tell the serial port what IRQ to use (or put it on automatic) with the BIOS config program. On my computer you get there by pressing F1 during bootup. A PC normally has 2 serial ports, and Debian does a pretty good job of configuring them without any intervention, so you may be able to leave this alone. Unfortunately, the ISA modem card will have it's own on-board serial port, so you have to be a little careful. Basically, you want to make sure (if you can) that it ends up on a different IRQ and port than any other device (including the built in serial ports). You may be able to just set some jumpers on the card to put it where you want it, or you may need to disable one of the other built in serial ports using the BIOS config program so that the ISA modem can use the disabled serial port's now free resources. You can figure out how the serial ports are already configured on your machine (assuming that you have linux up), by running "setserial -bg /dev/ttyS*" as root (see "man setserial" for more info). This will list all the currently configured serial ports and what resources they are using. Here's a sample: # setserial -bg /dev/ttyS* /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) /dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) Note one port is using IRQ 4 and one is using IRQ 3. The 0x numbers are the I/O ports they are using. I didn't configure this myself; Debian did it at startup automatically. The script that handles this auto-configuration is /etc/rc.boot/0setserial. If I had your modem installed setserial -bg's output might look like this: /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) /dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) /dev/ttyS2 at 0x0??? (irq = 4) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) Note that the ??? would be filled in with some address, but I don't know what it would be. Note also that I depicted two serial ports "sharing" the same IRQ. Things could be set up that way, but you'd have to be sure to never, ever use both ports. The sytem would get confused about "who was saying what". What you'd really like is something like this: /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) /dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) /dev/ttyS2 at 0x0??? (irq = 5) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) where ??? is different from the other
Re: /etc/crontab.daily and the security hole in find | xargs
"Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] > The only solution is to come up with a program that > never follows syslinks, and checks that the i-node of the file it is > removing remains the same. Actually, i-nodes can be recycled, so it isn't a good idea to depend on that: % cd /tmp % touch foo % ls -li foo 14 -rw-rw-r-- 1 careycarey 0 Aug 9 17:47 foo % rm foo % touch foo % ls -li foo 14 -rw-rw-r-- 1 careycarey 0 Aug 9 17:48 foo If a program will be creating a file (like /tmp/.X0-lock) but another creates and deletes a file in the same file system just before this, it will probably have the same i-node. -- Carey Evans <*> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "[UNIX] appears to have the inside track on being the replacement for CP/M on the largest microcomputers (e.g. those based on 68000...)" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
A installation report...
hello debian users I just send a bug reported on these experiences, but would like to get some comments on this list: I'm a very convinced Debian user and will never switch to another distribution so I suggested a friend of mine to take a look on Debian, which he tried to install. He is not a linux newbie, though Debian newbie and tried to install Debian 1.3.1 from CD. Yesterday when I met him the system was totally corrupted with round about 100 packages that weren't in a clean state and it took several hours to fix this with dselect and dpkg by hand. One of the basic problems was that dselect can't say how many space is free on the harddisk and if a selected package fits on the disk or not. It installs all packages that are selected without any checking on the disk and doesn't report anything to the user (only dpkg gets an disk write error that is handled like any other). This resulted in "no space left on device" errors and dselect wasn't even able to write its status file. That's really ugly and one of the basic things a package management system should be able of. Then we deselected things for removing and many of the postrm-scripts returned errors cause other packages that they needed were allready removed. For example the linux gazette files from the doc directory weren't able to be removed cause the journal package was allready wiped from the disk. We managed this by installing the journal package one more time and than removing the gazette files. Another thing was that the netscape wrapper package from the contrib implies to the user a full netscape package. We had no netscape binary around and so the installation returned an error and netscape was half installed. Then dselect reports conflicts on packages like fvwm95 or others which have a "suggest netscsape" entry. Well even if dselect provides facilities ro prevent users from running in such problems, they are obviously hard to find. Btw: I'm not a very experienced dselect user, cause I used dselect only once for my installation and since then I'm doing the rest with dpkg on the command line. So I won't suggest a newbie to switch to the Debian distribution in the next time. Well, on the other side I'm a glad Debian user and will never take another distribution, cause I like the way the packages are set up and how Debian organizes the disk. Peter -- -- Peter Weiss, Sonnenstraße 17, D-26123 Oldenburg, Tel: 0441/ 81058 http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de:/~weissp -- -- Slow has got 4 letters so has calm; speed has got 5 letters so has death -- -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
disk activities on a notebook..
On Aug 8, 1997, at 07:05, David Puryear wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know what is accessing the hard drive every 3 or four > seconds? I'm using debian 1.3.1 with 2.0.29 on a laptop, so I > trying to make the battery last as long as possible. But with > constant accessing of the disk when I'm just typing is draining the > battery way too fast.:( Hope someone has idea as to how to change > this behavior. > > Any hint as to how to find out would be appreciated, thanks, > > David Let's see, how much physical memory do you have? If it is less than 16 MB, then X is going to swap a lot. That could explain it. -- Gonzalo A. Diethelm G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bash command history
Is there any way to get bash to work like 4dos? -- If you type the first couple of characters of a command in history, it will only scroll through those commands begining with those characters... -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
printers
Is there a huge index or something that has all the settings for each printer? I have a HP Deskjet 660C (600 dpi b&w, 300 dpi color).. any know the settings? (I think everything is placed in the /etc/printcap) -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: signify
If signify is the one that uses a fifo for .signature, I tried that and it worked fine. Doing a cat .signature generated different signatures each time. Pine didn't like it at all. On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Michael B. Taylor wrote: > > > > Does anybody know how to use signify with pine? I've copied one example > > as my .signify in my $HOME dir., but I'm clueless on how to make it work > > with pine. > > Try .signature +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Now shipping version 1.3.X + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mgetty/faxrunq.pid
This is somewhat of a bug report, but its really not a real 'bug'... The mgetty+sendfax package places its faxrunq.pid in the etc directory.. Who ever maintains this package should probably recompile it to use /var/run instead. -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Samba -- netbios
The smbmount command can't locate any servers by their name (it works with the IP -- also, smbclient does work w/ names). I think this has something to do w/ netbios. Anyone know how to get this to work? -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Samba -- netbios
The smbmount command can't locate any servers by their name (it works with the IP -- also, smbclient does work w/ names). I think this has something to do w/ netbios. Anyone know how to get this to work? -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: signify
> > Does anybody know how to use signify with pine? I've copied one example > as my .signify in my $HOME dir., but I'm clueless on how to make it work > with pine. Try .signature Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Proposal and questions about chemistry Debian packages
On Fri, Aug 08, 1997 at 11:51:05AM +0200, Frits Daalmans wrote: > I have some questions regarding Debian's attitude towards scientific > programs. [...] > Now my questions are these: > - there is no section for chemistry or quantum chemistry yet in the > Debian distribution. Do you think there would be anyone besides me who > would like to have one? To start collecting the freeware programmature > floating around on the 'net to an interoperating suite of quantum > chemistry, modelling, and data conversion programs for both students > and professionals in chemistry. Similarly I have some ideas for some electronics packages (mostly related to microcontrollers/microprocessors); there is one or two similar packages at present; is there sufficient interest for me to do some? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 51% Your train has been cancelled due to defective government at Spring Street.. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Does Linux use BIOS parameters for disk?
On Thu, Aug 07, 1997 at 11:03:10AM -0400, Mike Miller wrote: > On my machine at home I'm running a 486sx33 IBM PS/1 with an old BIOS. > For dos, I installed the western digital overlay that allows access, but > in Linux, it ran perfect w/o it. According to WD, however, if you ask > them, Linux is "broken" because it doesn't use the BIOS. Yeah, and Win95 > is "fixed". That'll be the day. There's a largedisk howto (or maybe it's > a mini-howto). Check it out, I found it to be very helpful. Good luck. Fortunately, if you do need Disk Manager anyway (due to booting to DOS etc), Linux is fine with it. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 51% Your train has been cancelled due to defective government at Spring Street.. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Threads information, book recommendation.
On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Oleg Krivosheev wrote: > something like "Programming with POSIX threads" "Programming with Pthreads", from ora.com, seems a good title for me. :] done. Aldrin Leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
