Re: ghostscript problem

[john]

I wrote:
> I have used dselect to install ghostview 1.5-13, gs 4.01-2,...

joost witteveen writes:
> You definately need to upgrade you gs to gs-aladdin-4.03.

Thanks.  Where do I find it?  And why didn't dselect tell me about this
dependency?
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Re: netscape communicator 4.03

[Remco Blaakmeer]

On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Ed wrote:

> There is a temporary solution that does not involve downgrading:
> 
> I clipped this from the Sept. debian-devel archive:

Yes, but that only solves the problem with netscape. Another problem is
that files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults can't be found. I have seen
a solution for that using a symlink, but I haven't got that to work. For
me, the simplest solution still is to keep xlib6 at version 3.3-5. No
package in hamm has a problem with that (or at least less problems than
with xlib6_3.3-6) and you won't have to remove all the ugly kludges when
xlib6_3.3-7 comes out.

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why /var/tmp/ not be cleaned at boot time

[Lawrence]

any reason why /tmp be cleaned at boot time while /var/tmp not?

lawrence


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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

[Ed]

Pete Harlan wrote:
> 
> > How well/is the AWE64 GOLD Sound card supported under Linux?  ..or will it
> > act/function like the SB16?
> 
> The alternative to doing backflips getting this card to work under
> Linux is to pay $20 to 4front-tech for their commercial driver for
> Linux.  It's hassle-free, works, and is good for five years of
> upgrades.
> 
> But it's not as cool as getting it to work for free (though you'll
> need to spend the $20 anyway on a hat after you tear your hair out).
> 

$30.  30 dollars, US, I tell you.  If you read the fine print at 4front,
you will find a 10 dollar surcharge for AWE 32/64 support.


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Re: Cyrix kernel patch

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Mon, Oct 06, 1997 at 02:19:00PM -0400, Shaleh wrote:
> Is there a patch against 2.0.29 for cyrix chips??  Is anyone using it??

I never found the Cyrix patches terribly useful anyway;
CPU identification in /proc/cpuinfo was about the best thing, I
never saw any performance increase.

I have K6 now anyway. It's a lot faster and my Cyrix had the
NT writeback cache bug too (and I use NT a lot here).


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Re: [off topic] Re: ghostscript problem

[Will Lowe]

On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Lucas wrote:

> At 10:41 PM 06-10-97 +0200, joost witteveen wrote:
> 
> >
> >.. but that's hamm only.
> >
> Please enlighten me as to the meaning of "hamm" ?

The current project leader of Debian,  Bruce Perens,  works for Pixar,
the computer company that made the "Toy Story" movie in the US.  I think
it was marketed by Disney,  which means it's probably available ALL OVER
the world. 

Anyway,  it's been a debian inside joke now for a while to name
upcoming releases with codenames taken from the "Toy Story" movie.  I
think Debian 1.2 was "rex",  1.3 was "bo" and now the Debian 2.0
development tree is code-named "hamm".  

It's lead to some confusion because some people use the "hamm"
links,  some use "unstable",  and some use "2.0".  They're all the same.

Will

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Re: [off topic] Re: ghostscript problem

[Adam Klein]

On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Lucas wrote:

> At 10:41 PM 06-10-97 +0200, joost witteveen wrote:
> 
> >
> >.. but that's hamm only.
> >
> Please enlighten me as to the meaning of "hamm" ?
> 
> 
> Ignorant
> 

"hamm" is the unstable distribution of Debian.  The name comes from the
pig in Toy Story.


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Re: Cyrix kernel patch

[Adam Heath]

>On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Shaleh wrote:
>
>> Is there a patch against 2.0.29 for cyrix chips??  Is anyone using it??
>
>I tried the patch for 2.0.30 kernels (on a 2.0.30 kernel,  of course) and
>it locked up a few times ... so if anyone has had better luck with this
>patch,  please let me know.  At this point I'm considering downgrading to
>kernel 2.0.27,  as I'm told a lot of 2.0.30 is broke anyway.
>
> Will
>

Where could I get the kernel patch?

>***
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>Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear.
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I'm glad someone else likes animaniacs.

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RE: why /var/tmp/ not be cleaned at boot time

[George Bonser]

Yeah, so you can have some temporary scratch space that survives a reboot.

Anything that can evaporate at reboot time, you put in /tmp, anything you want 
to survive a reboot, you put in /var/tmp.


On 07-Oct-97 Lawrence wrote:
>any reason why /tmp be cleaned at boot time while /var/tmp not?
>
>lawrence
>
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smail error

[Paul Miller]

I keep receiving error messages from Cron about smail... here is what they
say:

---
/usr/lib/smail/checkerr: .newerrors: Permission denied
mv: .newerrors: No such file or directory
---

I beleive this has something to do with the permissions on the
/var/spool/smail/errors directory, but I'm not sure what the permissions
should be... currently it is drwxr-sr-x  root  root

Any ideas?

Thanks, Paul


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RE: smail error

[George Bonser]

Mine are set owned  mailroot

with the same permissions that you have.

chown -R might be your friend here.


On 07-Oct-97 Paul Miller wrote:
>I keep receiving error messages from Cron about smail... here is what they
>say:
>
>---
>/usr/lib/smail/checkerr: .newerrors: Permission denied
>mv: .newerrors: No such file or directory
>---
>
>I beleive this has something to do with the permissions on the
>/var/spool/smail/errors directory, but I'm not sure what the permissions
>should be... currently it is drwxr-sr-x  root  root
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks, Paul
>
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Re: Cyrix kernel patch

[Will Lowe]

On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Adam Heath wrote:

> Where could I get the kernel patch?
http://www.linuxhq.com/upatch20.html

> I'm glad someone else likes animaniacs.
Yeah,  sometimes I feel silly cuz' I'm 20 years old and I'd rather watch
animaniacs than Star Trek ...
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Re: Cyrix kernel patch

[George Bonser]

On 07-Oct-97 Adam Heath wrote:
>>On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Shaleh wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a patch against 2.0.29 for cyrix chips??  Is anyone using it??
>>
>>I tried the patch for 2.0.30 kernels (on a 2.0.30 kernel,  of course) and
>>it locked up a few times ... so if anyone has had better luck with this
>>patch,  please let me know.  At this point I'm considering downgrading to
>>kernel 2.0.27,  as I'm told a lot of 2.0.30 is broke anyway.
>

I always had trouble with my Cyrix workstation locking up.  I fixed it by UNDER
clocking the CPU.

After I did that, I have never had a problem with it.


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Re: wn 1.18.3-1 problems

[Joey Hess]

Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> Should I included a dependency on this?  I believe that the policy
> manual says that essential packages don't need to be mentioned.  But
> this may not be useful in the case where the interface provided by an
> essential package changes as in this case.

I ran into the same problem with one of my packages, and you're right, you
shouldn't declare a dependancy. Guy Maor suggested to do something like:

TMP=`tempfile` || TEMP="/tmp/$$"

Of course to be safe, you should really use some directory other than /tmp/
on the right hand side.

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Re: libc5 Sendmail 8.8.7?

[Eloy A. Paris]

At 06:16 PM 10/6/97 -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote:

>On Mon, Oct 06, 1997 at 01:45:52AM +, Eloy A. Paris wrote:
>
>: I do need some of the anti-spam features present in Sendmail 8.8.7
>: (8.8.5, the latest libc5 version, should have these anti-spam
>: features but they seem to be broken).
>
>8.8.5 works just fine && dandy...  I build my .cf's from the sendmail 
>sources, however.  Here's my .mc file...

8.8.5 is broken if you use maps. I applied the following patch that I found
in www.sendmail.org and now my Sendmail 8.8.5 works fine. I'll start
fighting Spam right now!!! (Yah :-)

(this patch should be in 8.8.6 or greater)

See ya.

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Last Update 1997-04-14 

From: Gregory Neil Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: Spamproofing a domain - the patches and hooks out there
Date: 24 Feb 1997 08:50:27 -0500
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As promised, here is a patch so check_relay will be able use maps as well.
This change should be in 8.8.6.  You should change from using classes to using
maps to avoid the need to restart.

*** src/daemon.c~   Thu Feb 20 21:55:43 1997
--- src/daemon.cSat Feb 22 19:18:52 1997
***
*** 398,403 
--- 398,407 
OutChannel = outchannel;
DisConnected = FALSE;
  
+ /* Open maps for check_relay ruleset in
+validate_connection */
+ initmaps(FALSE, e);
+ 
  /* validate the connection */
  HoldErrs = TRUE;
  nullconn = !validate_connection(&RealHostAddr, RealHostName, e);


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Re: Lilo and Ext2 woes :)

[David Stern]

> On October 6, 1997, Nolan Darilek asked how to remove LILO.

>From _Running Linux_ (p.130)
--
Removing LILO

If you have LILO installed on your MBR, the easiest way to remove it is
to use MS-DOS FDISK.  The command

FDISK /MBR

runs FDISK and overite the MBR with a valid MS-DOS boot record.

LILO saves backup copies of your original boot record in the files
/boot/boot.0300(for IDE drives) and /boot/boot.0800 (for SCSI drives).
These files contain the MBR of the drive before LILO was installed.  You
can use the dd command to replace the boot record on the drive with this
backup copy.  For example:

[WARNING SYMBOL]

dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1

copies the first 446 bytes of the file /boot/boot.0300 to /dev/hda.
Even though the files are 512 bytes in size, only the first 446 bytes
should be copied back to the MBR.

Be very careful when using this command!  This is one of those cases
where blindly executing commands you find in a book can cause real
trouble if you're not sure what you're doing.  Only use this method as a
last resort and only if you're certain that the files /boot/boot.0300 or
/boot/boot.0800 contain the boot record you want.  Many distributions of
Linux come installed with bogus versions of these two files; you might
need to delete them before you install LILO.

The LILO documentation contains further hints for removing LILO and
debugging your LILO configuration.
---

I was unclear if this would help you, but now that you can see it, you
can decide for yourself.  

If you restore boot records, manually verify the file creation dates
beforehand.  If they're not from the original install, you may get
something other than what you expected, and that is NOT a good thing.
I've only tried this a few times.  The first time it worked, the other
two times it failed (to do anything).  I haven't tried it with debian. 

Running (dos) fdisk /mbr has worked for me many times and is far safer.
I wasn't sure if you could use that or not, though.

Most of this and a lot more is in:

/usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz

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Re: Cyrix kernel patch

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Mon, Oct 06, 1997 at 08:03:57PM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
> On 07-Oct-97 Adam Heath wrote:
> >>On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Shaleh wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is there a patch against 2.0.29 for cyrix chips??  Is anyone using it??
> >>
> >>I tried the patch for 2.0.30 kernels (on a 2.0.30 kernel,  of course) and
> >>it locked up a few times ... so if anyone has had better luck with this
> >>patch,  please let me know.  At this point I'm considering downgrading to
> >>kernel 2.0.27,  as I'm told a lot of 2.0.30 is broke anyway.
> >
> 
> I always had trouble with my Cyrix workstation locking up.  I fixed it by 
> UNDER
> clocking the CPU.
> 
> After I did that, I have never had a problem with it.

I had this problem too, but it seemed to go away just a couple of weeks
before I upgraded to K6 anyway. I got a new voltage regulator,
that was about it. I haven't used the onboard one in ages.


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Bo-Hamm was Re: ghostscript problem

[Dave Restall]

Hi,

> >
> >.. but that's hamm only.
> >
> Please enlighten me as to the meaning of "hamm" ?
> 
> 
> Ignorant
> 
> 

Because this question or a variance on it is asked SO OFTEN, shouldn't
the people who decide these things be thinking "Hey perhaps we're doing
something wrong here ?".


'nuff said,

Dave Restall
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Re: unable to load debian

[Carey Evans]

Pere Camps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[snip]

>   If I put an image that works on that PC (used to run Slackware),
> and execute boot.bat, the kernel loads but I get the error:
> 
>   "VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00"
>   "Kernel panic: VFS ..."

Do you have the working kernel with RAM disks configured in?  Block
major device 1 is the RAM disk.

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Re: re- floppy=thinkpad

[Carey Evans]

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> Problem :
> The suggestion to put "floppy=thinkpad"
> into the lilo.conf did not work.

My lilo.conf looks like the following.  I have a non-standard CD-ROM
(a Sony CDU-33A), so put the command for the non-standard floppy in
the same place.

boot=/dev/hda1
root=/dev/hda1
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=10
message=/boot/message

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
append="isp16=0x340,10,Sony cdu31a=0x340,10"
read-only

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Re: wn 1.18.3-1 problems

[Tibor Simko]

hi

> "jean" == Jean Pierre LeJacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

jean> Thanks for the report.  The program /usr/bin/tempfile is
jean> part of the debianutils package from at least version 1.6.
jean> Could you have an earlier version that doesn't include this
jean> program?

thank you; yes, that was it.  i was upgrading from "stable" in a
selective manner and didn't know of the need to upgrade debianutils
package, too.

jean> Should I included a dependency on this?  I believe that the
jean> policy manual says that essential packages don't need to be
jean> mentioned.  But this may not be useful in the case where the
jean> interface provided by an essential package changes as in
jean> this case.

hmm, i think it's not unusual for debian users to use "stable"
distribution and to upgrade to "unstable" only those packages one
really needs or is interested in.  therefore, personally, i would
prefer to have it included in dependencies... of course only during
its unstable period.  but anyway, it's not really needed, since you
replies so fast to the mailing list!  thanks again.

btw, jean-pierre, i'm glad to see that the wn package gets nicer and
nicer :-)

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my first package - xvgr

[Lukas Eppler]

Hi!

I just packaged xvgr for debian sucessfully - my first package. I'd like
to tell all of you who never did that, but already have compiled software
on their own that it is not very difficult. It's almost fun! 

(xvgr is a plotting tool for X. I am not sure if it is already in hamm, I
just wanted to try out how it works.)

Now, I need someone who can help me with some questions from time to time.
I will have (and already have) questions which are not answered in
info or man or /usr/doc. I need some 'daddy' to help me find the way :-)
I could go to the debian-devel list, but I am afraid I would bother them
with my stupid questions. And, I don't want to upgrade to unstable yet, so
I may need someone who helps me with publishing.

Let me advertise a bit more: If you think you may be able to debianise a
program, try it. Let debian be growing. :-)

Have fun,
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Re: Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting)

[Marcus . Brinkmann]

It is in general a good advice to install first the actual lib* package,
and then the appropriate lkib*g package. So it is necessary for svgalib
and others.

Perhaps something like this could be included in the HOWTO

Thank you
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Re: [off topic] Re: ghostscript problem

[joost witteveen]

> At 10:41 PM 06-10-97 +0200, joost witteveen wrote:
> 
> >
> >.. but that's hamm only.
> >
> Please enlighten me as to the meaning of "hamm" ?

Well, you are using debian-1.3.x, codenamed "bo".
We (the developpers) are working on debian-2.0 (not released yet),
and we haven't quite finished with that yet. So, we call
it "unstable". But the codename for debian-2.0 will be "hamm".

These names are characters from a movie I haven't seen,
but the graphics in the movie were generated in the Pixar
Studio's. As it happens, our director, Burce, works for Pixar.

That's how we got the codenames.

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Re: non-English Linux use

[Santiago Vila Doncel]

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On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Lukas Eppler wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, G. Crimp wrote:
> > 
> > #!/bin/sh
> > /usr/bin/setfont iso01.f16
> > 
> > There are a lot of fonts to choose from. See /usr/share/consolefonts.
> 
> This is somewhat away from the original question, but: When loading one of
> the iso-fonts, I lose the graphic characters used by dialog, make
> menuconfig/kernel, mc and others, [...]

This is because some chars are letters in iso-8859-1 and angles in the
default font. If they share the same character code [*], I'm afraid
(but I may be wrong) you can not see both at a time.

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Re: libc5 Sendmail 8.8.7?

[Jason Costomiris]

On Tue, Oct 07, 1997 at 12:44:28AM -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote:
: 8.8.5 is broken if you use maps. I applied the following patch that I found
: in www.sendmail.org and now my Sendmail 8.8.5 works fine. I'll start
: fighting Spam right now!!! (Yah :-)

Welcome to the battle!

I see what the problem is now, and why I haven't seen the bug you 
are speaking of...

1) I don't use Scheck_relay (I use Scheck_rcpt and Scheck_compat to
do refusals on a per domain basis, and do the anti-relay stuff)

2) I don't use maps in Scheck_*, although I was considering modifying
my rules to do that, since with maps you don't need to reload sendmail.

Of course, someone's now going to jump in and say "Use Q-Mail".  I like
using procmail to sort my mail, thanks very much.  I've also shut down
the areas of sendmail most commonly exploited.  For example, using
smrsh as the Mprog, instead of just sh (aka bash).  Yeesh.  Anyone who
lets someone send mail to an arbitrary program is BEGGING for trouble,
and smrsh lets me avoid that...

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Re: ghostscript problem

[joost witteveen]

> I wrote:
> > I have used dselect to install ghostview 1.5-13, gs 4.01-2,...
> 
> joost witteveen writes:
> > You definately need to upgrade you gs to gs-aladdin-4.03.
> 
> Thanks.  Where do I find it?  And why didn't dselect tell me about this
> dependency?

You find it in debian. Same section where you found gs-4.01-2 (non-free).

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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

[Marcus . Brinkmann]

On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Ed wrote:

> Pete Harlan wrote:
> > 
> > > How well/is the AWE64 GOLD Sound card supported under Linux?  ..or will it
> > > act/function like the SB16?
> > 
> > The alternative to doing backflips getting this card to work under
> > Linux is to pay $20 to 4front-tech for their commercial driver for
> > Linux.  It's hassle-free, works, and is good for five years of
> > upgrades.
> > 
> > But it's not as cool as getting it to work for free (though you'll
> > need to spend the $20 anyway on a hat after you tear your hair out).
> > 
> 
> $30.  30 dollars, US, I tell you.  If you read the fine print at 4front,
> you will find a 10 dollar surcharge for AWE 32/64 support.

Let me say that the awe driver package works just fine with a SB AWE32.
Don`t know about the 64 yet. Any people tried?

Marcus


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Re: remove menubar from netscape 4.03

[Curtis Brown]

Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> One way I've heard to do this is start up netscape with a geometry that puts
> the menubar off the top of the screen. Set up the window manager so windows
> cannot be moved (or run w/o a window manager). If they can't click on it,
> they can't use it. :-)

But can't they still use the keyboard equivalents?  For example with
the menubar off the screen, I can type Atl+O and then enter a URL of
my choosing.

Regards,
Curt


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Re: remove menubar from netscape 4.03

[Paul]

Hi this is the owner of the orginal message.  We have told it that alt+O
to be undefind.  We have stopped all access accept the menubar.
Paul

On 7 Oct 1997, Curtis Brown wrote:

> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > One way I've heard to do this is start up netscape with a geometry that puts
> > the menubar off the top of the screen. Set up the window manager so windows
> > cannot be moved (or run w/o a window manager). If they can't click on it,
> > they can't use it. :-)
> 
> But can't they still use the keyboard equivalents?  For example with
> the menubar off the screen, I can type Atl+O and then enter a URL of
> my choosing.
> 
> Regards,
> Curt
> 
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pine config remove header info

[Paul]

Hi everybody, I was wondering if there was a way to configure pine not to
show all the header information.  The debian maillist's header has 8
lines.  Can we cut that down to about 3 ie date, from, subject.  Let me
know, I would really appreciate it.
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to see if it pine config

[Paul]

hi everybody, I'm just trying a new pine config.  disreguard this message.
Paul



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Re: pine config remove header info

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Paul wrote:

> Hi everybody, I was wondering if there was a way to configure pine not to
> show all the header information.  The debian maillist's header has 8
> lines.  Can we cut that down to about 3 ie date, from, subject.  Let me
> know, I would really appreciate it.

There's an option in pine to control the header display.  With full
headers on you see everything, with it off you see only the essential
fields.  See the configuration form the main menu.

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Re: Time Zone & mount points

[David Wright]

On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Nelson, R.A (Richard/Rick) wrote:
> 
> >   *) I've got /bin mounted seperately as r/o.  Now, I'd like to move
> >  /sbin there as well.  I assume that what I need to do is to mount
> >  a new directory (say /mnt/robins) and have /bin,/sbin directories
> >  therein and symlinked in root?
> 
> Please do not do this. /bin and /sbin are required to be on the root file
> system. They contain binaries you need to fix things when you have
> troubles mounting file systems other than the root file system. The same
> goes for /lib and /etc. 

Agreed. /etc gets written to anyway.

> 
> What puzzles me is that you have /bin on a seperate mount point and you
> are still able to mount it. On my system, the only 'mount' binary is in
> /bin.

Conceivably, mount could be in a /bin in the root directory which gets 
occluded (or whatever the correct un*x term is) by being mounted over.
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Re: Bo-Hamm was Re: ghostscript problem

[Dale Scheetz]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Dave Restall wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> > >
> > >.. but that's hamm only.
> > >
> > Please enlighten me as to the meaning of "hamm" ?
> > 
> > 
> > Ignorant
> > 
> > 
> 
> Because this question or a variance on it is asked SO OFTEN, shouldn't
> the people who decide these things be thinking "Hey perhaps we're doing
> something wrong here ?".
> 
Not necessarily ;-)

Rex, bo, and hamm are "internal" code names for 1.1, 1.2 and 2.0
respectivly. Every project I have ever worked on had some kind of "cute"
code name (Debian code names come from the movie "Toy Story") for
internal identification. While this will probably continue to be
"confusing" to some users, I don't think this constitutes "something wrong
here". The reason this creates "regular" questions is that these are not
the names that are publicly assigned to these different releases.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: Cyrix kernel patch

[Shaleh]

I have never had an ounce of problem with my chip.  I have a 150+ that
behaves well.  The problem I have seen is that everyone uses the wrong
clock setup.  My 150+ is actually a 120Mhz.  The other problem I have
seen is that not everyone makes motherboards that behave well with
cyrix/IBM chips.  We use several cyrix/IBM's here at work and have sold
many IBM 200+'s to customers.  No problems.  I just want my boot to say
CyrixInstead 6x86 instead of unknown 486.  set6x86 has solved my heat
concerns in my rather unventilated case.


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Re: netscape communicator 4.03

[Scott Ellis]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
> Yes, but that only solves the problem with netscape. Another problem is
> that files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults can't be found. I have seen
> a solution for that using a symlink, but I haven't got that to work. For
> me, the simplest solution still is to keep xlib6 at version 3.3-5. No
> package in hamm has a problem with that (or at least less problems than
> with xlib6_3.3-6) and you won't have to remove all the ugly kludges when
> xlib6_3.3-7 comes out.

My solution to the entire problem was to symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 to
/usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/X11, thereby giving it all the symlinks it could
possibly need in one fell stroke.


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Re: slang and lynx

[Scott Ellis]

On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> after upgrading to the newest version of slang0.99.34 and slang0.99.38 I get
> the following error with lynx: can't open libslang.so.0.99.34
> 
> I tried making a symlink to libslang.so.0.99.38 and this results in lynx
> doing a core dump when I attempt to start it.
> 
> I thought the slang0.99.34 package was meant to allow libc5 packages that
> still need libslang.so.0.99.34 to work

The -7 release of slang0.99.34 was mislinked with libc6, the -8 release
fixes this.


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Re: Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting)

[Scott Ellis]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> It is in general a good advice to install first the actual lib* package,
> and then the appropriate lkib*g package. So it is necessary for svgalib
> and others.
> 
> Perhaps something like this could be included in the HOWTO

I'll try to make mention of it.  However, it is policy that the newer
libfoog package should conflict with old versions of libfoo that put their
libraries in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib/libc5-compat.  Any package that
doesn't do this has a bug.  In addition, the both packages are installed
at the same time, you'll get the right thing even if it does complain
about overwrites, and most other libraries can stand to be broken for a
few minutes.


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What is pam.conf?

[Alberto Otero Garcia]

Hi!
I'd like to know what is pam.conf, what is it use, and why when I
make root & boot disks with the yard tool ask for it when I'm gonna
login.

Thank you very much in advance for your answers.

Note: I'm new with Debian, I think this is why I don't know anything
about.

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Re: Cyrix kernel patch

[Al Youngwerth]

[snip]
>CyrixInstead 6x86 instead of unknown 486.  set6x86 has solved my heat
>concerns in my rather unventilated case.

What is set6x86 ?

Thanks,


Al Youngwerth
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Re: Cyrix kernel patch

[Shaleh]

set6x86 is a program that sets various cpu registers (run it during boot
in an rc script).  For me it made a large difference in heat output. 
Running windows I could feel the heat just touching my case.  In Linux I
can safely touch my cpu fan and motherboard heatsink.  I have the page
that has the cyrix mini-howto at home.  I will send that in tonight.  My
only problem was it had a 2.0.31-pre patch.  linuxhq.com is back online
and I found the cyrix patch against 2.0.x there.


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can't load library

[Mathias Haessig]

Hi!
My problem is the following:
I tried to install XFree86 on my linux. Now I've got all files but I
can't set up the XWindows because when I run "XF86Setup" I get the error
message "can't load libXaw.so.6".
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Re: Cyrix kernel patch

[George Bonser]

It is a program that allows you to set certain bits in the CPU control
register. I run the rc.cyrix that comes with it at boot time on my cyrix box. I
still had trouble with the system locking up.  The two ways I was able to fix
it were 1): Disable internal CPU cache in the CMOS setup  OR 2) underclock the
CPU.

I was continuing to have trouble even with the 6x86 package.  Voltage
regulators are a big deal but this MTech motherboard has a MONSTER heatsink on
the voltage regulator and it is designed to support the cyrix chips.

The one thing that I have not done, that I probably SHOULD do, is go to Radio
Shack and get a small tube of that silicone heatsink compound and put a thin
layer between chip and heatsink.  This can more than double heat transfer.

On 07-Oct-97 Al Youngwerth wrote:
>[snip]
>>CyrixInstead 6x86 instead of unknown 486.  set6x86 has solved my heat
>>concerns in my rather unventilated case.
>
>What is set6x86 ?
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Al Youngwerth
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Madge Token Ring Cards

[Anand Kumria]

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On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Bob Jonkman wrote:

> Hi all:  Are "Madge Smart 16/4 Ringnode" or "Madge Smart 16/4 ISA 
> Client Plus Ringnode" Token Ring cards usable? I saw nothing 
> about them in the HOWTO Hardware compatibility list, so I assume the 
> worst...

They are unusabe under Linux withot drivers. I used to have spare Client
Pluses, but I couldn't even get device driver info. out of Madge to write
a driver. I gave up and bought a supported Ethernet card.

Anand.

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floppy=thinkpad mount/umount

[frank]

thank you very much Carey !

the magic word was "append="
in lilo.conf . I only had "floppy=thinkpad" .

AND I also have to insert the floppy just
after the systems starts to boot ! so that when
it gets to the mount from /etc/fstab it also
mounts the floppy correctly ! STRANGE !

If I do NOT include in /etc/fstab :
"/dev/fd0 /floppy msdos   defaults"

The system will NOT  mount it later !
complaining "/dev/fd0 is not a block device"  !

To change floppies I have to :
umount /dev/fd0
mount -a ( while the /dev/fd0 entry is uncommented in /etc/fstab )

However , If I use
umount /dev/fd0 /floppy
mount -a
the system complains "/dev/fd0 is not a block device"  !

Do YOU have any idea why the extra "/floppy" would cause this ?

It seems the append="floppy=thinkpad" in lilo.conf only takes
effect on BOOT TIME ! ( When boot mounts the floppy ).

If I boot WITHOUT inserting the floppy after the boot is in progress,
( and /etc/fstab file has the /dev/fd0 entry as above )
the boot process will error several times trying to mount the floppy and
timeout and eventually continue with the boot.

Then when I issue a "mount -a" it will mount the floppy
but making it only READ-ONLY !

Subsequent "mount -t msdos -rw /dev/fd0 /floppy"
complains with :
block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: block device /dev/fd0 is not permitted on its filesystem

only a "mount -a"  mounts the floppy !

What makes the /dev/fd0 READ-ONLY ? 

Is there an entry in /etc/fstab that sets this or is it in the boot process ?

Thanks,
frank naranjo


At 09:31 PM 10/7/97 +1300, Carey Evans wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> Problem :
>> The suggestion to put "floppy=thinkpad"
>> into the lilo.conf did not work.
>
>My lilo.conf looks like the following.  I have a non-standard CD-ROM
>(a Sony CDU-33A), so put the command for the non-standard floppy in
>the same place.
>
>boot=/dev/hda1
>root=/dev/hda1
>compact
>install=/boot/boot.b
>map=/boot/map
>vga=normal
>delay=10
>message=/boot/message
>
>image=/vmlinuz
>label=Linux
>append="isp16=0x340,10,Sony cdu31a=0x340,10"
>read-only
>
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Re: netscape communicator 4.03

[Stephen Zander]

Scott Ellis wrote:
> My solution to the entire problem was to symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 to
> /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/X11, thereby giving it all the symlinks it could
> possibly need in one fell stroke.

This, as has been observed before, is a BAD THING.XKeysymDB

Only the XErrorDB, XKeysymDB, app-defaults & locale dirs under
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11 need to be sym-linked to /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/X11.
(Thanks, Guy, for pointing this out to me :))

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RE- floppy=thinkpad mount/umount

[frank]

Thank s Carey,

the magic word is  > append="floppy=thinkpad"
in lilo.conf

this works ONLY if I have in /etc/fstab
"/dev/fd0   /floppy msdos   defaults"

If i do not insert a floppy during boot, it will error 
out and eventually timeout the floppy, making the device
READ-ONLY on subsequent "mount -a" .

If I insert a floppy just after the boot so that when it
mounts the floppy it is there, it will mount it and make it
Read/write.
I can then :
umount /dev/fd0
mount -a
to replace floppies with RW privileges.

Could you tell me why the filesystem /dev/fd0 is made READ-ONLY
when it errors out on the boot process. It will allow me to 
use "mount -a" and access the floppy but only (ro).

Is there an entry I can make in /etc/fstab ( or elsewhere )
so that the floppy may later be mounted as (RO) or (RW) ,
weather it is inserted during the boot process or NOT ?

thanks,
frank naranjo

At 09:31 PM 10/7/97 +1300, Carey Evans wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> Problem :
>> The suggestion to put "floppy=thinkpad"
>> into the lilo.conf did not work.
>
>My lilo.conf looks like the following.  I have a non-standard CD-ROM
>(a Sony CDU-33A), so put the command for the non-standard floppy in
>the same place.
>
>boot=/dev/hda1
>root=/dev/hda1
>compact
>install=/boot/boot.b
>map=/boot/map
>vga=normal
>delay=10
>message=/boot/message
>
>image=/vmlinuz
>label=Linux
>append="isp16=0x340,10,Sony cdu31a=0x340,10"
>read-only
>
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>kernel: validated probe(17f, 17f, 11557, 5010, -1645409555) 
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Re: netscape communicator 4.03

[Scott Ellis]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Stephen Zander wrote:

> Scott Ellis wrote:
> > My solution to the entire problem was to symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 to
> > /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/X11, thereby giving it all the symlinks it could
> > possibly need in one fell stroke.
> 
> This, as has been observed before, is a BAD THING.XKeysymDB
> 
> Only the XErrorDB, XKeysymDB, app-defaults & locale dirs under
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 need to be sym-linked to /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/X11.
> (Thanks, Guy, for pointing this out to me :))

Okay, only those items are NEEDED, what is the harm in the rest of it
being there?


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ssh

[Will Lowe]

Ok.  I'm trying to use ssh to connect between remote machines,  say from
my machine to master.debian.org.  I've read the docs but I'm still
confused:

1) how do I enter a host into the "list of named hosts" that ssh is always
talking about?  I've tried make-ssh-known-hosts but it always dumps with
"no such file".

2) How do I tell if my session is really encrypted or not?  Apparently if
there's no secure connection it just uses .rhost ... that's not real
great.




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scsi thinkpad cdrom

[frank]

Is anyone using a IBM THINKPAD with a cradle
that has a CD-rom with Linux ?

I cannot acces my CD-rom !

My previous NT 4.0 system labelelled the device
as Future-Domain 8xxx SCSI
IBM CDRM00201
SCSI Cd-rom
SCSI port = 0
Bus # = 0

Is there a special driver I need to load for this device ?

Where can I find/get it ?

How do I load it ?

thanks,
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Re: remove menubar from netscape 4.03

[Joey Hess]

Curtis Brown wrote:
> But can't they still use the keyboard equivalents?  For example with
> the menubar off the screen, I can type Atl+O and then enter a URL of
> my choosing.

Yes, they can. But not everything on the menus has a keyboard equivilant. 

It might be possible to edit the netscape Xresources file and get rid of
those keyboard equivilants, too.


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Re: netscape communicator 4.03

[Stephen Zander]

Scott Ellis wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Stephen Zander wrote:
> > This, as has been observed before, is a BAD THING.XKeysymDB
> > 
> > Only the XErrorDB, XKeysymDB, app-defaults & locale dirs under
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 need to be sym-linked to /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/X11.
> > (Thanks, Guy, for pointing this out to me :))
> 
> Okay, only those items are NEEDED, what is the harm in the rest of it
> being there?

The harm is that you return to the previous situation where a libc6 compiled 
library from xlib6 is being used with a libc5 compiled program.

Core dump city :(


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/etc/rc ?? ( where filesystems are mounted )

[David Stern]

Hi,

I'm looking for the place in /etc/rc ?? just after all the filesystems
get mounted and I don't seem to be able to find it.  In another common
linux distro, I put my isapnp/awe soundcard initialization in
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, but there seem to be a few differences in the
structure of the /etc/rc heirarchy between that other distro and debian
and I can't find the right place, would someone please help me out? 

Thanks,

David Stern



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user cron question

[G. Kapetanios]

Hi,

I have cron installed and it works fine. However, I need to run a backup
script as a user since I mount a novell network acount with the same
username and save my data. So I tried to set up a cron job as a user. 
I created a file called allow in /var/spool/cron which contained 
only my username. I edited my crontab file using the command crontab -e
and I restarted the cron daemon just in case , but the thing didn't work.

I am wondering what I might hve done wrong 

Any help will be appreciated 

   Thanks 
   George 





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Compaq NetFlex Adapter

[Alessandro Nisticò]

I have installed Debian 1.3.1 on a Compaq ProLiant 800 server. Unfortunately, 
the "Integrated NetFlex-3 PCI" Ethernet adapter doesn't work with any of the 
driver provided. I have temporarily solved the problem by installing a standard 
NE2000 card, but I would like to use both adapters.

Thank you very much in advance for your help.

Best regards

Alessandro


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Re: bug ?: Disappearing DOS partitions (fwd)

[Adrian Bridgett]

On Oct 02, G. Crimp wrote
> Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
>  phys=(259, 15, 63) logical=(64, 63, 63)

Have you changed your BIOS settings - LBA <-> Large <-> CHS? This might
have messed something up.

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RARP on MAC address?

[Richard . Dansereau]

Hello all!

I have a MAC address (ethernet address) that I'm trying to figure
out what IP is associated with it.  I know that there is a
Reverse Address Resolution Protocol (RARP) that these machines use
to determine these types of things transparent to the user.

Is there a command line version where I could enter a MAC address
and get it to do the RARP and return an IP to me?

Cheers!
Richard..

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Re: /etc/rc ?? ( where filesystems are mounted )

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, David Stern wrote:

> I'm looking for the place in /etc/rc ?? just after all the filesystems
> get mounted and I don't seem to be able to find it.  In another common
> linux distro, I put my isapnp/awe soundcard initialization in
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, but there seem to be a few differences in the
> structure of the /etc/rc heirarchy between that other distro and debian
> and I can't find the right place, would someone please help me out? 

/etc/init.d/rc.boot

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Re: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

[Paul Rightley]

On 06-Oct-97 Yann Dirson wrote:
>Philippe Troin writes:
> > 
> > Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
> > Philippe Troin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > $Id: packages.sgml,v 1.57 1997/10/06 09:59:38 phil Exp $
>...
> > 6.  Programs that aren't available yet in Debian
> > 
> > Programs listed in this section aren't yet available as Debian
> > packages, but there has been an expressed desire to include them.
> > 
> > If you want to create a Debian package, send me an e-mail.
> > 
> > 6.1.  Programming and development:
> > 6.3.  Graphics:
> > 6.4.  X11:
>
>Don't know in which of your section it would enter, but I suggest
>someone packages the "Khoros" system (Huge development stuff mainly
>aimed at data manipulation, with a powerful "visual programming"
>language, toolboxes for signal and image processing, 2/3D data
>visualization, matrix calculus, etc.)

As I understand it, although a version of Khoros is freely available, KRI
(the company that created Khoros) reserves the right to distribute Khoros to
itself.  Also, if this beast were packaged for Debian, everybody would be
repartitioning their systems to fit it (this "application" is why my /usr/local
is 500M)!

Paul Rightley

>
>It was one of the systems I had planned to package when I joined
>Debian at first, but I never found enough time to start it.
>
>In case anybody wants to take a look at it, primary site was
> last year, I think it would have stayed the
>same ;)
>
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Re: /etc/rc ?? ( where filesystems are mounted )

[Bruce Perens]

I'd suggest you place your script in /etc/rc.boot/ . This will get run
at boot time after local disks have been mounted. See the man page
for "run-parts", this will tell you how the scripts in that directory
are run. Run-parts itself is invoked in /etc/init.d/boot .

Bruce
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Re: Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting)

[Marcus Brinkmann]

On Tue, Oct 07, 1997 at 10:29:11AM -0400, Scott Ellis wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > It is in general a good advice to install first the actual lib* package,
> > and then the appropriate lkib*g package. So it is necessary for svgalib
> > and others.
> > 
> > Perhaps something like this could be included in the HOWTO
> 
> I'll try to make mention of it.  However, it is policy that the newer
> libfoog package should conflict with old versions of libfoo that put their
> libraries in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib/libc5-compat.  Any package that
> doesn't do this has a bug.  In addition, the both packages are installed
> at the same time, you'll get the right thing even if it does complain
> about overwrites, and most other libraries can stand to be broken for a
> few minutes.

I have to admit that I don't know what I'm really doing, but it works: I try
to install the (old) libc5-compat, and if it installs I install the libc6
one after. If it depends on libc6 and errors, I install the libc6 and then
the libc5 library a second time. Seems to work fine...

Once again, I don't know what I do but I'm impressed that all works
relativly flawless.

Thank you,
Marcus
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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

[Britton]

> On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Ed wrote:
> 
> > Pete Harlan wrote:
> > > 
> > > > How well/is the AWE64 GOLD Sound card supported under Linux?  ..or will 
> > > > it
> > > > act/function like the SB16?
> > > 
> > > The alternative to doing backflips getting this card to work under
> > > Linux is to pay $20 to 4front-tech for their commercial driver for
> > > Linux.  It's hassle-free, works, and is good for five years of
> > > upgrades.
> > > 
> > > But it's not as cool as getting it to work for free (though you'll
> > > need to spend the $20 anyway on a hat after you tear your hair out).
> > > 
> > 
> > $30.  30 dollars, US, I tell you.  If you read the fine print at 4front,
> > you will find a 10 dollar surcharge for AWE 32/64 support.
> 
> Let me say that the awe driver package works just fine with a SB AWE32.
> Don`t know about the 64 yet. Any people tried?

I have the awe driver working with the awe 64, I think.  At any rate the
module loads without any complaints and I can play sound.  /dev/mixer is
definately not working right, but this is probably something I'm doing
wrong.  I havn't actually been able to check the wave table device either
(I don't really know how yet).

> Marcus
> 
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Nuisances with Ethernet network.

[Dr. Daniel Mashao]

Hi,
My /var/log/messages file grows by leaps and bounds all because it keeps
getting the following message

Oct  7 16:54:03 vitasat kernel: eth0 EtherII and eth0 802.2
Oct  7 16:54:21 vitasat kernel: IPX: Network number collision 53
Oct  7 16:54:21 vitasat kernel: eth0 EtherII and eth0 802.2
Oct  7 16:54:25 vitasat kernel: IPX: Network number collision 53
Oct  7 16:54:25 vitasat kernel: eth0 EtherII and eth0 802.2

over and over. Now I cannot find out where it comes from and how to
disable it and of course what it means. My connection seems to work fine.

Any help?
//
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Re: Compaq NetFlex Adapter

[Peter S Galbraith]

> I have installed Debian 1.3.1 on a Compaq ProLiant 800 server. =
> Unfortunately, the "Integrated NetFlex-3 PCI" Ethernet adapter doesn't =
> work with any of the driver provided.

The Compaq uses an onboard network card called the Compaq Integrated
NetFlex-3/P.  James Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at Caldera is writting
a driver for it:

  ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/stuff/tlan-0.29.tar.gz

It works great!
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Gcc prints NAN for floats that are not NANs

[Dr. Daniel Mashao]

I have ported some code from Sparc to Intel. The code works fine except it
prints NaNs for some floats that are not NaNs at all. One of my co-workers
suggested I run the same code (of course compiled) on FreeBsd and see if
the NaNs appear. The FreeBsd code does not produce the NaNs. I have
searched the Web for Gcc and Nans and the closest I have come accross was
a mention of this problem on  the Alpha chips and not Intel processors.
(Does that mean Intel copied that much from Digital that they too have
NaNs for usual float? :) :) )

So any expert out there where should I look further?

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Re: /etc/rc ?? ( where filesystems are mounted )

[David Stern]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> I'd suggest you place your script in /etc/rc.boot/ . This will get run
> at boot time after local disks have been mounted. See the man page
> for "run-parts", this will tell you how the scripts in that directory
> are run. Run-parts itself is invoked in /etc/init.d/boot .
> 
>   Bruce

/etc/inet.d/boot is the file I was looking for.  And .. it looks like
isapnp is already setup in there.  I'll take your advice and put my
sound script in /etc/rc.boot and see how that works -- after I man
run-parts.

Thanks,

David Stern


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clock in /etc/init.d/boot ?

[Oleg Krivosheev]

hi,

i'm starting to get message during boot time:

"command clock in /etc/init.d/boot not found"

i don't remember removing any essential 
packages from my system

Any ideas how to fix it?

regards

OK


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Wierd crankiness update

[Darin Johnson]

Regarding my problem with login/passwd/su failing, I've tracked
it a bit further.  It seems that getpass() is failing, and more, that
it's actually /dev/tty that's completely screwed up.

Symptoms:
  $ echo howdy > /dev/tty
  $ cat /dev/tty
  howdy
  $ cat /dev/tty
  howdy
  $

That is, the first echo has no output, but each successive cat will
print the output.  This is contrary to a well running unix system,
where the first echo will print to the tty, and a cat /dev/tty will
block.

I've verified this under 2.1.55 and 2.0.30.  I have a mix of hamm and bo.
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Re: clock in /etc/init.d/boot ?

[Tommy Lakofski]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Oleg Krivosheev wrote:

> i'm starting to get message during boot time:
> 
> "command clock in /etc/init.d/boot not found"
> 
> i don't remember removing any essential 
> packages from my system

You didn't. 'clock' got renamed to 'hwclock'.

> 
> Any ideas how to fix it?
> 

ln -s /sbin/hwclock /sbin/clock

TL


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Re: .fvwm2rc question

[Austin Donnelly]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (joost witteveen) writes:

> > On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, G. Kapetanios wrote:
> > 
> > > Exec"Stop It"   exec kill -9 $(ps aux | grep xlock | grep
> > > -v grep | awk '{print $2}')
> > > 
> > > This works in the shell but not from the menu. Any ideas why ?
> > 
> > Because fvwm2 doesn't start a shell  the command you give above uses
> > the shell characters ( | $ etc., but there's no shell to interpret them.  
> 
> If that is true (and I don't know, really), then the answer
> would be:
> 
>  Exec"Stop It"   exec \
>   sh -c "kill -9 $(ps aux | grep xlock | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}')"

Yes, the behaviour of the "exec" command changed sometime during the
development of the 2.0.xx series of fvwm2.  It used to always run a
"sh -c" before your command, but now it does the more efficient
straight exec of the first argument.  If you want the old semantics,
you need to explicitly go "sh -c".

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Re: RARP on MAC address?

[Oliver Elphick]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  >I have a MAC address (ethernet address) that I'm trying to figure
  >out what IP is associated with it.  I know that there is a
  >Reverse Address Resolution Protocol (RARP) that these machines use
  >to determine these types of things transparent to the user.
  >
  >Is there a command line version where I could enter a MAC address
  >and get it to do the RARP and return an IP to me?

You don't need RARP except for a diskless boot.  RARP says, "Here I am
(with MAC address ...); what is my IP address?"

To find the IP address of a MAC interface *which*your*machine*has*seen*,
use `/usr/sbin/arp -a -n' (the -n returns the IP address rather than the
name).  I don't think that there is any way to find the IP address of
an arbitrary MAC device which isn't on the current network.

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Re: /etc/rc ?? ( where filesystems are mounted )

[Bob Nielsen]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, David Stern wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking for the place in /etc/rc ?? just after all the filesystems
> get mounted and I don't seem to be able to find it.  In another common
> linux distro, I put my isapnp/awe soundcard initialization in
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, but there seem to be a few differences in the
> structure of the /etc/rc heirarchy between that other distro and debian
> and I can't find the right place, would someone please help me out? 

All the rc stuff is symlinked to files in /etc/init.d

Not wanting to tinker with the debian-generated stuff, I created my own
script in a new /etc/init/d/local and ran update-rc.d to create the links.

Bob


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Re: Wierd crankiness update

[Remco Blaakmeer]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Darin Johnson wrote:

> Regarding my problem with login/passwd/su failing, I've tracked
> it a bit further.  It seems that getpass() is failing, and more, that
> it's actually /dev/tty that's completely screwed up.
> 
> Symptoms:
>   $ echo howdy > /dev/tty
>   $ cat /dev/tty
>   howdy
>   $ cat /dev/tty
>   howdy
>   $

Are you sure /dev/tty is a device and not a regular file? Try this:

$ ls -l /dev/tty
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys5,   0 Apr  5  1997 /dev/tty
$

If it is different from this (apart from the date), there probably is
something wrong. If it is different, try this as root:
# rm /dev/tty
# /dev/MAKEDEV tty
# ls -l /dev/tty
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys5,   0 Oct  8 00:07 /dev/tty
#

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Re: user cron question

[csmall]

> I have cron installed and it works fine. However, I need to run a backup
> script as a user since I mount a novell network acount with the same
> username and save my data. So I tried to set up a cron job as a user. 
> I created a file called allow in /var/spool/cron which contained 
> only my username. I edited my crontab file using the command crontab -e
> and I restarted the cron daemon just in case , but the thing didn't work.
What do you mean "didn't work".  Do you mean the script or program was not
called or the script or program did not do anything useful?

You can tell if something was run by making it say something, anything.  This
is because cron will mail you anything that is sent out STDOUT or STDERR.
So if you have a script, add the line
  echo "Hello, World!"
to it somewhere, perhaps near the top, to see if your script is being run
at all.

To check that the crontab has been entered in, try crontab -l as the user.

You might also want to run the script or program from the command line, to
see if that is working how you think it should be.

  - Craig




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RE: /etc/rc ?? ( where filesystems are mounted )

[Ralph Winslow]

On 07-Oct-97 David Stern wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for the place in /etc/rc ?? just after all the filesystems
>get mounted and I don't seem to be able to find it.  In another common
>linux distro, I put my isapnp/awe soundcard initialization in
>/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, but there seem to be a few differences in the
>structure of the /etc/rc heirarchy between that other distro and debian
>and I can't find the right place, would someone please help me out?

Create a file like:

/etc/init.d/package_name

where the package_name file contains your initialization code. Then 
make links as: ln /etc/init.d/package_name /etc/rc#.d/S##package_name
and ln /etc/init.d/package_name /etc/rc#.d/K##package_name where # is
the run level number(s) that you wish to S## start or K## kill your package.
The ## digits determine where in booting sequence your code will run.
If you specify S## the same (don't) for two different packages, they
start in indeterminate order.  rc1.d denotes single user mode while
rc2-7.d are flavors of multi-user modes. My system doesn't run X stuff
until rc3.d since X has failure modes which leave the system unuseable.
You want to be able to have multi-user mode (rc2.d) available for
debugging X. Some S/As isolate networking capabilities to a specific 
run-level. YMMV HTH
>
>Thanks,
>
>David Stern
>
>
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RE: Bo-Hamm was Re: ghostscript problem

[Ralph Winslow]

On 07-Oct-97 Dave Restall wrote:
>Hi,
>> >
>> >.. but that's hamm only.
>> >
>> Please enlighten me as to the meaning of "hamm" ?
>> 
>> Ignorant
>> 
>
>Because this question or a variance on it is asked SO OFTEN, shouldn't
>the people who decide these things be thinking "Hey perhaps we're doing
>something wrong here ?".

Isn't the answer in the FAQ? It'll surely be in one of the archives
or digests in any case; if you could let "Ignorant" know how those
are accessed, you'd be providing a valuable service.
>
>
>'nuff said,
>
>Dave Restall
>mail/debian/971007.tx  debian-user@lists.debian.org
>+++
>+ Dave Restall[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>+ Tel +31 (0) 40 2785701 
>+
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>+ Windows 95: n.(Author Unknown).
>+
>+  32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit
>+
>+  operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written 
>+
>+  by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. 
>+
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Re: clock in /etc/init.d/boot ?

[Galen Hazelwood]

>>
>> Any ideas how to fix it?
>>
>
>ln -s /sbin/hwclock /sbin/clock

Nope, that's not enough.  The behavior of the program has changed
slightly.

"hwclock -a" (--adjust) only tweaks the RTC, it doesn't use the RTC to
set the system time like it used to.  You need to invoke it as "hwclock
--hctosys" to do that.  So hack /etc/init.d/boot as follows:

Before:
#
# Set and adjust the CMOS clock.
#
if [ ! -f /etc/adjtime ]
then
  echo "0.0 0 0.0" > /etc/adjtime
fi
clock -a $GMT

After:
#
# Set and adjust the CMOS clock.
#
if [ ! -f /etc/adjtime ]
then
  echo "0.0 0 0.0" > /etc/adjtime
fi
hwclock --adjust
hwclock --hctosys $GMT

That should do the job.

--Galen



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Re: clock in /etc/init.d/boot ?

[Steve Mayer]

Oleg,

  The clock command has been replaced by hwclock.  It will accept the same
switch values that clock did.  I just replaced clock with hwclock in the
boot file and the error went away.

Steve Mayer
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Oleg Krivosheev wrote:

> hi,
>
> i'm starting to get message during boot time:
>
> "command clock in /etc/init.d/boot not found"
>
> i don't remember removing any essential
> packages from my system
>
> Any ideas how to fix it?
>
> regards
>
> OK
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installing PCMCIA support

[frank . gorishek]

I am attempting to install PCMCIA support on a DELL Latitude LX
notebook. I have used floppies (Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 built August 01,
1997) to install the base system and want to get my CDROM working (SCSI
PCMCIA adapter) working (I have the CD set 1.3.1).

I appear to be hitting a version conflict between the pcmcia-cs and
pcmcia-modules packages. On the Debian CD I have pcmcia-cs version
2.9.5-3 and pcmcia-modules versions 2.9.5-2 (for kernel 2.0.29) and
2.9.5-3 (for kernel 2.0.30).  The kernel version is 2.0.29, so I have to
use pcmcia-modules-2.0.29, but it depends on pcmcia-cs version 2.9.5-2
(which I can't find).

I have checked http://www.debian.org/packages and
http://hyper.stanford.edu/HyperNews/get/pcmcia/home.html to find a
compatible set of card services, kernel modules and kernel to no avail.
This seems pretty fundamental, so I must be missing something.

--frank


Frank Gorishek
Advanced Development Lab
Advanced Micro Devices M/S 621
Austin, TX 78749
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Re: clock in /etc/init.d/boot ?

[Tommy Lakofski]

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Galen Hazelwood wrote:

> Nope, that's not enough.  The behavior of the program has changed
> slightly.

Oops. I thought it said it was switch-compatible. Thanks.

TL


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