TeTeX (was Re: SGML-Tools)

1998-03-03 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
In an article [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|However, I don't have latex (nor latex2e). I have tetex instead. I
|thought tetex is a latex substition, at least when looking at basics
|functionality. Indeed the sgml-tools package did not comment on this,
|even though latex is one of its sugestions. And in any case,

Just a point of clarification. TeTex is just a LaTeX2e distribution,
just as Debian is a linux distribution. TeTeX includes various things
that make it easier to get a LaTeX installation up and running.

Gary Hennigan

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Parallel Computational Sciences; Div. 9221
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Have a question about Debian..

1998-03-03 Thread P. D. Tisdale
I just downloaded all of the "chunks" that make up the Debian Binary CD.

I also downloaded the MD5SUM.EXE and MD5SUMS files.  However, when I use
MD5SUM to test the chunks, EVERY single one fails!  What are the chances
that every chunk is bad??  Is it possible I have downloaded an old
version of the MD5SUMS file?

If not, what do I do next?

Thanks in advance,

Paul


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Re: dpkg thinks my pentium is an i486 ?

1998-03-03 Thread Bill Leach
I'm not so sure that it doesn't.  That is certainly well within the
capabilities of make itself...

Joost Kooij wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, joost witteveen wrote:
> 
> [A very interesting and informative expose, thanks Joost!]
> 
> As it works now (as I understand) the rules makefile effectively tries to
> make the build independent of the actual machine it is built on. Of course
> this is great for maintainers who create a binary for distribution.
> 
> It would also be nice to have an easy way to rebuild a package as user and
> have the building optimized for the particular machine that the user has.
> 
> If the rules file could take standard parameters like the cc to use,
> optimization flags to use, another architecture altogether than the
> machine on which is built etc., that would be a nifty thing to have.
> 
> Oh well,
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Joost
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Re: Ultra ATA HD Controller Comaptibility

1998-03-03 Thread Ender Wigin


-K
Kevin Poorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Do the Free-Ride 

On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Joe Hill wrote:

> I am looking for a version of Linux that is compatible with my IDE HD
> controller, which is an "Ultra ATA" controller on a recent Gateway 2000 PC 
> (300
> MHz P II).  According to the Redhat site, this controller is not compatible 
> with
> Redhat ... my questions are:  to anyone's knowledge, is the current version of
> the Debian/Linux compatible (is this version 2.0.33 of the kernel?) and what 
> is
> it that makes Redhat not compatible with this particular controller?  Thanks 
> for
> your help ...

This is one of those UDMA cards ... that are not suported AFAIK by the
linux kernel team ... However I belive you will find that you can use the
Hard drive in EIDE mode by conecting it to your motherboard directly and
removing the "Ultra ATA" card ... (IIRC you need to tell the bios that you
want to use the on-board controler... ) 

> 
> 
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Re: Slackware--->Debian

1998-03-03 Thread Ender Wigin


-K
Kevin Poorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Do the Free-Ride 

On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Holden Caulfield wrote:

 I am very new to LINUX so I apologize for the insignificance of this question. 
 I have Slackware installed on my computer and want to get rid of it so I can 
install Debian 1.3.1 rev.  Is there a LINUX equivalent to the DOS format 
command or is there some special process I need to follow in order to remove 
slackware from my system.

Yep sure is ... The Format command is called mke2fs for more info RTBM
(man mke2fs)

> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
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making room

1998-03-03 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

Sometimes we install packages just to test, and end up with a HD full
of things we never use.

Well, I don't care about small things, but the big ones...

Is there a way to check how much space a package is using? I looked
for an option for the "dpkg -l", so that the size of each package
would be shown, but found nothing.

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afterstep

1998-03-03 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

I upgraded afterstep to 1.4, but I had to downgrade it back to 1.0,
cuz the new one did not get any of my old confs, and looked horrible!

Did I do anything wrong?

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Re: I need help

1998-03-03 Thread Igor Grobman

> On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, "I&IR" == Ivan & Ines Rojas wrote:

  I&IR> Hi there, I just finish installing and setting my linux box, which
  I&IR> wasn't a easy job for a windows user :-) and then I decided to use PPP.
  I&IR> I install the module accordingly with the PPP-HOWTO but I'm missing the
  I&IR> ppp-on and ppp-off files.

PPP-HOWTO's way is not quite compatible with debian.  I suggest you read 
http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=20 and ask questions here if it doesn't 
help.

 
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Re: smail - Is smarthost behavior correct?

1998-03-03 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  I have always understood that when I deliver mail to a smarthost,
> the smarthost is supposed to handle everything transparently to my
> machine.  I have smail configured with my ISP, metrolink.net, as a
> smarthost for all mail.  However, smail seems to wait for the
> smarthost to resolve the address before handing over the mail.  Is

Where do you see it resolving adresses? In the next two lines?

>[EMAIL PROTECTED]: mc.seflin.org matched by smart_host router:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]: metrolink.net matched by smart_host router:

This is OK. Smail checks which router (in /etc/smail/routers) it should
use for delivering this mail and says that the smart_host router matches.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: Kernel Customization.

1998-03-03 Thread shaul
>   You seem to only have one kernel on your machine. That is the
> reason that you have judt /vmlinuz and no /vmlinuz.old. When you
> install the next kernel version, you shall get the second link in /.
>
>   As to the names in /boot, the names are /boot/vmlinuz- 
> If you need more than one instance of a kernel image for the same
> kernel version, you should get kernel-package and read
> /usr/doc/kernel-package/Flavours.gz. Umm, I am unsure if this exists
> in a Bo version of kernel-package.

You are right. /usr/dockernel-package/Flavours.gz does not exists in a Bo 
version of kernel-package.
I think it should be.
And another thing: I think that the kernel-package and the kernel-source 
documantaion had to tell me what you have told me. They are quite ambigious, 
if not unaccurate.


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Re: Activate Lilo

1998-03-03 Thread shaul
If Linux and Win95 are on different partitions of the same HD, I think that 
the Win95 installation forces the Win95 to be the active partition. Therefor, 
you might try to use fdisk from the DOS prompt in order to make the Linux 
partition active.

>  First I have windows 95 system and I installed Debian system.
> After I installed debian system I can choose through lilo which system
> I want start. After some time Some problem was occured in windows 95,
> which make me reinstall windows 95 again. At that time lilo don't work.
>
> How can I activate it.
> or How can I choose between windows 95 and Linux.




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Re: Installing with LS-120 drive

1998-03-03 Thread shaul
> Hi,
>   This is a really interesting problem... Sorry I cannot be of any help.

It was Paul Rightley (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) question (if I remeber correctly). I 
was only trying to help.

>It however is of interest to me as, just this afternoon, I was thinking of
>the possibility of putting a minimal installation (<90Mb) on a 120Mb disk
>drive and running linux off that. Concievably there will be a second
>floppy disk drive on the machine which could then be mounted as the
>utility floppy drive The (non-x) possibilites apear to be endless with
>such. 
>  I wonder what your thoughts about this are ...

I think it is a good idea. 
Moreover, people are actualy doing that. From time to time you can see 
something like "I took an old unused 386, installed linux and using it for ... 
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Moved harddisk

1998-03-03 Thread Hunter H Marshall
I have a 1.2.8 system that I boot from floppy. I
moved the harddrive from (effectively) /dev/hda to
/dev/hdb. I then used rdev to change the boot
device and the swap device to their hdb
counterparts. Should that have been sufficient?

Is there a primary/secondary IDE issue (if I'm
saying that right)? What about the /etc/fstab
which reference /dev/hda?

Thanks

hunter


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Re: SGML-Tools

1998-03-03 Thread shaul
> $ sgml2latex -a example.sgml 
> SGML-Tools driver version 0.99.7

The filenames have not changed accidentally, I am running the command from the 
same directory where the sgml file is, I have tried it with the the sgml-tools 
pkg (which was not an upgrade, but a fresh installation) and it is the 
standard example created long ago by Matt Wels.

However, I don't have latex (nor latex2e). I have tetex instead. I thought 
tetex is a latex substition, at least when looking at basics functionality. 
Indeed the sgml-tools package did not comment on this, even though latex is 
one of its sugestions. And in any case,

bash-2.00$ man sgml2latex

SGML2LATEX(1)   SGML2LATEX(1)

NAME
  sgml2latex  -  create plain text output from a SGML source
 file

SYNOPSIS
  sgml2latex  [-2e]  [-aCdglps]  [-style  s  ]   [-t   n   ]
]
  file[.sgml]

DESCRIPTION
  sgml2latex  converts  a  SGML source file to LaTeX output,

[...]
OPTIONS
   -2eUses LaTeX2e instead of LaTeX 2.09

I had other difficulties with sgml2latex, for example with the -p (postscript) 
option.
Eventualy, I succeded made sgml2latext convert the sgml file into dvi. Which I 
used with dvips to create the desired postscript file.
 



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crt1.c

1998-03-03 Thread Bruce Dobrin
Hi all,


I'm trying to compile a tool from Irix,  What I'm currently getting is a syntax 
type error in something called "crt1.o"  checked the source and the original 
stable release and it is distributed as crt1.o.  Does anyone know what this is 
and where I can get the uncompiled code?

Thanks 


Bruce Dobrin
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Sony Pictures Imageworks
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Re: Out of PTTY's

1998-03-03 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, C.J.LAWSON wrote:

>   ... Its one problem after another ... When I try to run the script
> program I get a message saying "out of PTTY's" and the program aborts.
> Does anyone have a clue as to what on earth brings this about ..

You may be using all your available pseudo-tty devices.  Check to see
how many /dev/ptyp[??] you have.  You can create additional devices
using the MAKEDEV script in that same directory.

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Re: 80M Thanks, and new question :)

1998-03-03 Thread Bill Leach
If you have successfully run autoup.sh then you need to run dselect
(though do read the upgrade howto's, etc.).

Autoup.sh is designed to get you to the point where deselect CAN do the
upgrade.  One of the problems is that with the libc5 --> libc6 upgrade
many of the things that dselect/dpkg rely upon as a system are
interdependent.  Thus, the Autoup.sh checks the current status of some
very critical packages and then upgrades the packages that are essential
for dselect/dpkg to be able to complete the job.

When you run dselect you should notice that there will been a large set
of groups of packages that will be the catagory of "Updated Available"
(IIRC the heading title).  These are the packages that dselect 'thinks'
that should be upgraded on your system (based upon the packages
fundamental relationship to linux--ie:  essential packages as well as
based upon what packages you currently have installed, including
packages that you might not have had installed but are now dependencies
for such packages)

I suggest that you run dselect without making any changes to what
dselect has 'decided' that you need (except on the off chance that in
dependency resolution dselect has choosen an alternative that you don't
care for).

Once that has completed then add the development packages (or whatever
else) that you want on your system that are not installed.


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Re: New (hamm) afterstep info

1998-03-03 Thread Kevin Traas
>just wondering: is it me or is there no info on the Net on the changes that
>were incorporated into the afterstep version 1.4*? I found the European
mirror
>that carries the tarball, but no info on what the differences are between
the
>1.0 and 1.4 . Any pointers would be welcome..


I'm running the new 1.4 on a few machines here and it's great!  Many changes
from the previous version.

ftp the tarball and untar it.  The README/INSTALL provide info on changes
from the original - however, these files are themselves a little dated

Anyway, works great and no complaints from my end!

Later,
Kevin Traas


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Re: Problem

1998-03-03 Thread Bill Leach
Unless I am hopelessly dense (a distinct possibility) the 1024 cylinder
'limit' is a BIOS/ROM specific issue and that there are now motherboards
with BIOS/ROMs that no longer impose that limit (and that this situation
has existed for a long enough period of time that virtually all newer
machines will not have the problem).

I am almost as much an anti-PC hardware bigot as I am an anti-M$ bigot
and have been 'flamed' several times (even on this list) for my 'style'
of discussing this issue.

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Re: LI instead of LILO:

1998-03-03 Thread Bill Leach
I don't remember the specific meaning of lilo stopping at LI either but
as mentioned it is explained in the LILO HOWTO.

Answering (at least partially) the question that I think that you are
asking...

You probably DO NOT need to reinstall.  The problem is likely just a
lilo configuration problem and should be correctable without starting
all over again.  One potential proplem however is that your hard disk is
'created' in a CMOS 'normal' mode when it should have been a LBA or
'linear' mode.

Do read the LILO documentation, it will be well worth the time invested.
A not very detailed explanation of what you need to do is:
Boot your Linux system from floppy.  If you use the rescue/installation
disk then answer the first couple of questions (color console, keyboard)
and then hit alt-F2 to go to the extra console.

type 'mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 /target' (substituting whatever is the
correct location for your linux root partition where I have '/dev/hda2')

edit (or at least check) the text file /target/etc/lilo.conf.

run lilo by typing
'lilo -r /target'

Unless told otherwise, lilo assume that its' configuration file is
/etc/lilo.conf and that the location for lilo's working files is /boot
(which is not the case if you boot from a kernel that uses a ram
filesystem or some other partition as the root filesystem).

I do not know if lilo's options can get you 'around' the problem where
the drive's structure does not match 'normal mode' or 'LBA mode'.
Lilo does have an option switch '-l' which says 'generate linear mode
addresses' and '-P fix|ignore' which tells lilo to fix or ignore a
fouled up structure (ie:  translation of head/sector does not yield the
correct LBA).

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Re: I need help

1998-03-03 Thread Bill Leach
I presume that you installed the 'bo' or stable release (ver 1.3.1) and
that you installed close to the latest packages...

ppp-on and ppp-off were replaced with /usr/bin/pon and /usr/bin/poff.

Have you determined if your ISP uses PAP or CHAP?
Do you have to login with a 'username' or 'account' and 'password'?

Have you tried loggin in with a term program such as miniterm yet?


Unfortunately, the HOWTOs were originally write almost exclusively from
the standpoint of a Slackware distribution.  People using debian,
redhat, caldera, unifix, (as far as I know even slackware now), and
other distributions are sometime mislead in various ways by the HOWTOs.

Debian, in particular differs from the the specifics of the HOWTO.  This
deviation is not done 'just to be different' and indeed the entire Linux
community often eventually adopts the 'debian way'.

The debian effort is intended to produce a system that is upgradeable
with minimum impact on your configuration (and thus on you!).  However,
to do that usually requires that the debian distribution does things a
little bit differently than some of the other distributions have done
things in the past.

Unlike DOS and a number of other operating systems, Unix/Linux is pretty
famous for allowing users (and system administrators where applicable)
to choose many different ways to accomplish a given task.

As a practical matter, some restraint must be imposed upon system
administration if it is to be possible to produce a package mainenance
system that can upgrade packages while retaining the specific
configuration that you choose to run.

Thus, debian differs a bit from other distributions because alteration
that you make to your system should comply with the 'debian way' or
future upgrades could fail to properly install (in most of those cases
you would have to do your configuration over again).

Ivan & Ines Rojas wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> I just finish installing and setting my linux box, which wasn't a easy job
> for a windows user :-) and then I decided to use PPP.
> I install the module accordingly with the PPP-HOWTO but I'm missing the
> ppp-on and ppp-off files.
> 
> I have no idea if I did something wrong, eventhough I didn't do much either.
> 
> But any ways, my question is: how can I put these files in my system? can I
> just create them from the scratch using emacs or any editor? if that's so,
> where can I get the file templates?
> 
> Please help me, I really want to try linux connected to internet, I've been
> trying 4 months to setup this machine and right now I just can logon, mess
> around and type "shutdown -r now". I'm starting to feel a little frustrated
> :-(
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> Ivan

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Re: disk partitions (part 3) ... :D

1998-03-03 Thread Bill Leach
Hi Helmut;

I am not really much of an expert in this sort of problem but would like
to see if I can help you to have a little better understanding of what
is going on with your system (as best as I understand anyway)...

The ROM portion of DOS loads and executes the mbr, including accessing
the disk drive for the mbr code.  Thus for your system to boot, it is
necessary for the ROM code to be able to find the files needed by lilo
(the files in /boot).

The was 'created' as a 'normal' disk and not a 'lba' disk.  The ROM code
then has to use the 'normal' mode to find the files needed by lilo.  If
you change the mode to 'lba' then when the ROM code interprets the disk
structure information to produce the block numbers that should be used
by the drive to seek to the requested files, the resulting numbers are
NOT the blocks where the files are actually located.

As far as I know the DOS portition of this problem IS not solvable by
any practical method other than reformating the disk under DOS with the
mode set to LBA.  It is actually possible to hand edit the disk
structure information used by the DOS based ROM code and I am told that
there are people that have done this but it is anything but a trivial
task!

IF you do not need to have DOS access to this drive (that would include
Win95 and OS2) you MIGHT be able to do a 'work around'.  First I don't
KNOW that this will work and can't quite tell from your posting if you
already have indication that it will not...

IF the ROM code can load and execute the mbr with the CMOS mode set to
LBA then I think that this will work otherwise it is just a waste of
your time and effort.  My suggestion is:

Set the CMOS to LBA for the drive (this BTW is something that I CAN NOT
do on my own system -- if a drive on my system was formatted in normal
mode then a change to LBA in the CMOS is automatically changed back).

Boot your system using a Linux boot floppy (rescue/installation) if you
don't have something else.

Run lilo (note that if you boot Linux such that your hard disk is NOT
the root filesystem (such as is the case with using the
rescue/installation disk) then it is necessary to tell lilo where the
normal root partition is currently mounted (see the lilo HOWTO or man
page) with something like "lilo -r /target" (assuming of course that you
mounted your normal hard disk Linux root filesystem on the rescue disk's
ram filesystem on the directory named 'target').

Now AGAIN, I have no idea whether this will work or not.  For this to
work it is necessary that 1)  the ROM code actually will access the disk
when there is a mode mismatch and 2) that lilo _uses_ that code to
determine what the location of the files that are needed during boot
WILL be.

I was just going to send this to you privately but I believe that it is
better to subject this to critical review of those that know the lilo
code as well as the details of exactly how the disk information is used
and interpreted by the ROM code.


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Re: X install/config query

1998-03-03 Thread Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131
>> Hello:
>> 
>> I recently installed Debian 1.3 on a '386, but apparently did not complete
>> the process correctly.  X was not configured (although everything else
>> that I have tried seems to be).
>> 
>> I cannot find 'xf86config' or 'XF86Setup' on the system.

I made the smae mistake when I first installed Debain,  I hadn't installed the
xbase package, this includes the xf86config program and startx scripts and some
other stuff.

>> Should I remove X and re-install, or is there another way?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dean Provins

Regards

Graham
>> 
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Re: dpkg thinks my pentium is an i486 ?

1998-03-03 Thread Joost Kooij
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, joost witteveen wrote:

[A very interesting and informative expose, thanks Joost!]

As it works now (as I understand) the rules makefile effectively tries to
make the build independent of the actual machine it is built on. Of course
this is great for maintainers who create a binary for distribution.

It would also be nice to have an easy way to rebuild a package as user and
have the building optimized for the particular machine that the user has.

If the rules file could take standard parameters like the cc to use,
optimization flags to use, another architecture altogether than the
machine on which is built etc., that would be a nifty thing to have.

Oh well,

Cheers,


Joost


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dpkg doesn't configure perl_5.004.04-2bo1.1.deb

1998-03-03 Thread LOPARIC Marko
Hi,

I use bo and needed perl 5.004. I installed perl-base_5.004.04-2bo1.1
without problems, but had problems that when installing
perl_5.004.04-2bo1.1.deb (I lost the output, as far as I can remenber dpkg
seemed to complain about files from perl 5.004 already present belonging
to other packages). 

Now `dpkg -l perl' shows:

iF  perl5.004.04-2bo1. Larry Wall's Practical Extracting ...

where F stands for Failed-config. When I run `dpkg --configure perl' I get

Setting up perl (5.004.04-2bo1.1) ...
dpkg: error processing perl (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 123
Errors were encountered while processing:
 perl

(I have already forced a downgrade and tried the same upgrade again to get
the original error messages, but I got only the same output as in `dpkg
--configure perl' above.)

Is there a way to know which configuration is missing? I made some tests
and apparently perl is running well, but this big F gives such a bad
feeling...

Thanks,

Marko


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Re: How to remove Boot block

1998-03-03 Thread C.J.LAWSON
The fastest way to remove the master boot record (I assume that is what
you want) is to use a MS_D*S boot disk (sorry, I've carvoted with the
opposition in times past)

Boot the machine with the boot disk and run "fdisk /mbr" to clear the
record, you will then have to run reinstall lilo (simply by running it)

Regards
Jonathan


On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Bob Clark wrote:

> Pascal MIQUET wrote:
> > 
> > I've install Linux with LiLO as super boot block.
> > 
> > I'd like to change it and make only LiLO for my LiNUX partition.
> > 
> > How can I remove this kind of information on ms SCSI PS/2 boot disk !
> > 
> > Thanks for your help.
> > 
> I don't understand what you are asking.  Post your
> /etc/lilo.conf file and your partition information.  If you
> want to revert to your old MBR or reinstall a DOS boot
> record then there are a couple of ways to proceed.  Do you
> want to keep Linux on your machine?
> 
> --Bob
> 
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Re: wierd ppp/pon bug?

1998-03-03 Thread Brandon Mitchell
You may want to reset your modem between dials (in a chatscript):
""   "\nATZ\n"

Actually I have a fairly complicated ppp setup (multiple numbers and login
methods that are tried in order), so I have a seperate reset script that
looks like:

ABORTOK
ABORT"NO CARRIER"
TIMEOUT  5
""   "\nATZ\n"
"OK" "\d\d\d+++\n"
""   "\d\nATZ\n"
"OK"

and I don't care if it aborts (actually, I want it to).  The +++ is a
signal to the modem to pay attention to you and stop sending data.

Brandon

P.S. if you are interested, I'll send you all my configs (minus
passwords).

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Debian install source (Was Re: Yikes, sorry.)

1998-03-03 Thread Lorens Kockum
On Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 07:51:19PM +0200, Tommi Virtanen wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 04:14:37PM +, Lorens Kockum wrote:
> > Are there any reasons at all for keeping crypted passwords in
> > /etc/passwd ?
> 
>   NIS is notorious for not working with shadowed passwords

Of course, forgot that.  Should have stayed in bed yesterday.

As a corollary, where do you find the source of the programs 
executed during the install of debian?  I ask because I wanted
to check if the install points out the NIS problem when it asks
whether to use shadow passwords.


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Out of PTTY's

1998-03-03 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Hello everyone,
... Its one problem after another ... When I try to run the script
program I get a message saying "out of PTTY's" and the program aborts.
Does anyone have a clue as to what on earth brings this about ..

Regards
Jonathan


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Re: I need help

1998-03-03 Thread IBMackey


On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ivan & Ines Rojas writes:
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > I just finish installing and setting my linux box, which wasn't a easy job
> > for a windows user :-) and then I decided to use PPP.
> > I install the module accordingly with the PPP-HOWTO but I'm missing the
> > ppp-on and ppp-off files.
> > 
> > I have no idea if I did something wrong, eventhough I didn't do much either.
> > 
> > But any ways, my question is: how can I put these files in my system? can I
> > just create them from the scratch using emacs or any editor? if that's so,
> > where can I get the file templates?
> > 
> > Please help me, I really want to try linux connected to internet, I've been
> > trying 4 months to setup this machine and right now I just can logon, mess
> > around and type "shutdown -r now". I'm starting to feel a little frustrated
> > :-(
> > 
> > Thanks a lot.
> > 
> > Ivan
> 
> You probably need to force the de-installation of the PPP package and
> re-install it from scratch. I ran into that problem when I first tried to
> finalize PPP. Once you re-install the PPP package, follow the directions in
> /usr/doc/ppp/README.debian.gz  That file will have the most "up-to-date" info.
> I kept reading horror stories about how difficult PPP was. When I
> de/re-installed PPP and followed the indicated file directions, PPP started up
> ok! The only thing which you might want to shutoff from the debian default in
> /etc/ppp/options file is the "proxyarp" option if you don't need it.
> 
> -- 
Get this article from the net:

Novice to Novice - A 10-minute Guide for Using PPP to Connect Linux To The
Internet -

http://www.ssc.com/lj/issue36/ppp.html

It shows setup, testing, and in 10 minutes you're done. By the way, use
Pico for a beginning editor switch to VIM later

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Re: dpkg thinks my pentium is an i486 ?

1998-03-03 Thread joost witteveen
In an attempt to save the world from disaster, Joost Kooij wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> 
> > Sorry, I missed the beginning of the thread, but these are the facts:
> > 
> > "uname -a" will report your machine type, the same as in "cat 
> > /proc/cpuinfo".
> > 
> > Then, when you compile, you can specify an architecture. This can be i386,
> > i486, i586 for intel. BUT all compiled programs by gcc will run on every
> > architecture. If you compile for i586, you still can run it on i386. The
> > only difference is the order of tha machine instructions. By default, no
> > i486 or i586 specific instructions will be used, it is all about
> > optimization. The programs may differ in speed and memory usage.
> 
> Apparently, if you build a kernel for other than i386 (say, i486), it
> won't run on i386

Yes, but that is because of parts in the kernel that are coded in asm, not
in C. The kernel hackers do real tricky things, and they are i{3,4,5}86
specific. But the code gcc creates (from C input files) is 
(at the moment at least) not specific to i{3,4,5}86 -- all gcc is able to
do is to optimize for one processor.

> > If I missed the topic of the thread, please tell. Maybe I also know the
> > answer of the original question ;)
> 
> Well, I was experimenting with builing packages from source and I noticed
> that they were compiled for i486. The rules file calls 
>  dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture
> to determine the machine. 

Yes, I think this is because dpkg cannot be sure that
  - gcc in the future still produces binaries that run on i486 when
i586 is specified
  - gcc is compiling the stuff. Maybe some completely other compiler is
creating the objects, and maybe that compiler can produce i{3,4,5}86 
specific code. (i.e. code that doesn't run on i386 when optimised
for i586).
So, with these considerations, I agree that dpkg should (on the intel)
always return "i386". I believe that the reason for dpkg to return "i486"
is that at the moment at least, there are still no compatibility problems
(code optimised for i486 will run on any intel >= i386). So "we" were free
to choose between i{3,4,5}86 as the machine dpkg returns. Appartenly
i486 was chosen.

Oh, and of cource dpkg should never make the machine type depend on
the specific architecture you have: if you have a i386, dpkg-buildpackage
should build exactly the same package as dpkg-buildpackage on my i586.
(whatever processor a maintainer has does not influence the type of
processor the package will eventually be run on. So the whole "intel"
architecture should have one type of processor-optimisation).

> I wondered why it sees my i586 as a i486.

Well, because not everybody has a i586. The i486 was chosen as the
porcessor to best represent the intel architecture (note that this was
done some time ago). And we (every "intel" maintainer) should optimise
his packages for the same architecture.

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Re: e2fsprogs

1998-03-03 Thread Bob Clark
Bob Hilliard wrote:
> 
>  I have just upgraded to e2fsprogs 1.10-11, and no they ARE the
> same file.  Sorry to bother you about a non-current version!
> 
> bob:vc-2:bob>ls -li /sbin/mkfs.ext2
>   86036 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root root17116 Jan 29 12:56
> /sbin/mkfs.ext2*
> bob:vc-2:bob>ls -li /sbin/mke2fs
>   86036 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root root17116 Jan 29 12:56
> /sbin/mke2fs*
> 
>  What, if any, is the advantage of installing these (or any other
> files) as hard links instead of symlinks?
> 
> --
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One property (advantage?) of hard links is that the file
will not actually be removed until the *last* hard-link is
removed.  i.e. There can be no "dangling links" with hard
links.

--Bob


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Re: ncpmount: no server?

1998-03-03 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Can you send the output from "ifconfig -a" and "slist"?

E.-

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: I had been compiled the kernel with IPX and NCPFS driver which
: is already connecting to the Novell netware. I have configure nwe_mars.conf
: in /etc/ directory. Then I log on my user and testing 'nprint' command
: to output printer. It says:-

: ncpmount /home/fred
: ncpmount: No server found in find_conn_spec.

: nprint ascii.txt
: nprint: No server found when initializing connection.

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smail - Is smarthost behavior correct?

1998-03-03 Thread Bob Hilliard
 This seems to be open season for smail questions, so I'll ask one
that has been puzzling me for a long time.

 I have always understood that when I deliver mail to a smarthost,
the smarthost is supposed to handle everything transparently to my
machine.  I have smail configured with my ISP, metrolink.net, as a
smarthost for all mail.  However, smail seems to wait for the
smarthost to resolve the address before handing over the mail.  Is
this the proper behavior for an MTA handing over to a smarthost?  I
don't think my machine should wait to see if the smarthost can route
it.  

 When I use runq -v, I get the following:

   bob:vc-2:bob>runq -v
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mc.seflin.org matched by smart_host router:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]: metrolink.net matched by smart_host router:
   routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
   metrolink.net
   routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
   metrolink.net
   transport smtp uses driver tcpsmtp
   lock retry/smtp/post.metrolink.net
   lock succeeded (will defer failure) retry/smtp/post.metrolink.net
   transport smtp: connect to host post.metrolink.net
   [207.31.112.16]/smtp...connected
   unlock (success) retry/smtp/post.metrolink.net
   write_log:Delivered VIA:post.metrolink.net TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:smart_host TRANSPORT:smtp
   write_log:Delivered VIA:post.metrolink.net TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:smart_host TRANSPORT:smtp
write_log:Completed.

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Re: 80M Thanks, and new question :)

1998-03-03 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
"Russ Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have numerous packages installed on my system.  In the case of the
> xserver-svga package, the version number of the Bo package was higher than
> that of the Hamm package, and it was not apparent to me that I needed to
> reinstall it.  Is there a script similar to autoup.sh which will examine my
> system and compare my installed packages against the available Hamm
> packages, and tell me which ones need to be upgraded?

This sounds like the job dselect was designed for.

> BTW, I still can't email out from Linux using Pine and Sendmail.  I have to
> use Windows :(.  The problem seems to be in my username and domain.  My ISP
> doesn't recognize me.

Sigh... it seems as though everyone's having this problem lately.


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Re: smail (again..... sheesh..)

1998-03-03 Thread john
Michael Beattie writes:
> What I would like to know is what are peoples opinion's on their own
> configurations, and what the pro's and con's are. One I can think of;
> Daniel's rewriting of /etc/smail/config every login,...

I may try that.

> ... versus having visible_name set to your ISP's domain,...

That is what I am doing now, but I don't like it.  It would be fine if I
could get smail to use my complete popmail name, though.  Can sendmail do
that?

> ...to have a valid hostname.

I have one.  It just makes things worse, since it isn't in my isp's domain.

> What would people suggest in my situation, where my ISP's SMTP server
> does not mind invalid hostnames?

That may change.

> should I just use it as a smarthost, and forget about visible_name?

Those are unrelated.

> I have not understood how to set up a smarthost, how is this done?

In /etc/routers I have:

smart_host:
driver=smarthost, transport=smtp;
path=bucky.win.bright.net
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Re: dpkg thinks my pentium is an i486 ?

1998-03-03 Thread Joost Kooij
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

> Sorry, I missed the beginning of the thread, but these are the facts:
> 
> "uname -a" will report your machine type, the same as in "cat /proc/cpuinfo".
> 
> Then, when you compile, you can specify an architecture. This can be i386,
> i486, i586 for intel. BUT all compiled programs by gcc will run on every
> architecture. If you compile for i586, you still can run it on i386. The
> only difference is the order of tha machine instructions. By default, no
> i486 or i586 specific instructions will be used, it is all about
> optimization. The programs may differ in speed and memory usage.

Apparently, if you build a kernel for other than i386 (say, i486), it
won't run on i386

> If I missed the topic of the thread, please tell. Maybe I also know the
> answer of the original question ;)

Well, I was experimenting with builing packages from source and I noticed
that they were compiled for i486. The rules file calls 
 dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture
to determine the machine. 

I wondered why it sees my i586 as a i486.

Don't confuse this with the architecture which is i386, even for PentiumII
I guess.

Cheers,


Joost

$ dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture
i486
$ dpkg --print-architecture
i386
$ dpkg --print-installation-architecture
i386
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
cpu : 586
model   : Pentium 75+
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
stepping: 12
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: yes
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid   : yes
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8
bogomips: 66.56
$ uname -a   
Linux pc47 2.0.33 #1 Fri Feb 13 16:21:19 CET 1998 i586 unknown



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hwclock fails on some "unstable" machines

1998-03-03 Thread Bob Clark
I have three machines running hamm.  Two of them produce the
error "mktime() failed unexpectedly (rc -1).  Aborting." 
when I run hwclock.  The same version of sysvinit:

bash# dpkg -l sysvinit
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
|
Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems
(Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  sysvinit2.73-2 System-V like init.

all three kernels are different but all have the real-time
clock driver enabled.

Any ideas what could cause this situation?  BTW the two
machines have only recently started to give this error so I
guess that some package installed from "unstable" made this
happen.

--Bob


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Re: php3 + apache = undefined `table_elts'

1998-03-03 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On 3 Mar 1998, tibor simko wrote:

> hello / szia :-)

Szia! ;)

> i am sending this message to you as to the debian php3 maintainer,
> since nobody responded to my email on debian-user.  php3's cgi
> approach works fine for me, but not the apache module approach; here
> comes the original message i posted to debian-user...

Sorry about that, I didnt have time to read debian-user lately.

> 
>   Restarting apache daemon...Syntax error on line 93 of
>   /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf: dlopen() error in mod_dlopen:
>   /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_php3.so: undefined symbol: table_elts
>   loading php3_module failed.
> 
> how come that `table_elts' is not defined?  has someone been more
> succesful than me?

The current php3 package was compiled with apache 1.3b3. Since then apache
1.3b5 is available as a debian package, i just didnt have time to upload
the new php3.deb compiled against it... I'll upload them this week.

Greg

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lynx play sound files

1998-03-03 Thread Paul McDermott
hello everyone, I was wondering how to get lynx to play sound files ie
.wav and .au?  I know it can be done.  I think it has to do with a
.mailcap file. but i'm not sure.  Thanks in advance.
Paul



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Re: DE-660 PCMCIA Card problems

1998-03-03 Thread Brian Mays
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damon Muller) wrote:

> If anyone read my earlier message, I have resolved my problem of how
> to get the PCMCIA stuff onto a laptop without a CD-ROM or anything
> like that (just copied them off my windoze machine onto a floppy and
> mounted it as vfat on debian).

> Now I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck with getting a D-Link
> DE-660 PCMCIA Ethernet card running under Linux? This card is not
> on the supported list, but I believe it is an update of the DE-650,
> which is on the supported list.

> Anyway, I did RTFM (the PCMCIA-HOWTO), and followed the instructions,
> attempting to get it to run the same module as the 650 (pcnet_cs). This
> didn't work.

> After pottering around for a while, I eventual found my way to the
> daemon.log, in which the PCMCIA stuff is logged. This is included below,
> and to my (novice) eyes, it doesn't look very promising!

> BTW, I'm using Debian 1.3.1 (kernel 2.0.29), the PCMCIA-CS that was
> on the same CD and pcmcia-modules-2.0.29-7_2.9.6-3.deb.

> Any help would be muchly appreciated!

The PCMCIA modules have been compiled to accompany the kernel in the
kernel-image-2.0.29 package, which unfortunately for some reason,
is not the kernel used on the boot floppies.  If you install the
kernel-image-2.0.29 package, your PCMCIA card should work.

Unfortunately, the kernel-image-2.0.29 package is larger than one
1.4M floppy.  If you have access a Unix system, you can use the split
utility to break it into smaller parts, and you can reassemble them on
your laptop computer with cat (for example, cat xaa xab > kernel.deb;
dpkg -i kernel.deb).  If your stuck with Microsoft's products, I don't
know how to help you; I know of no obvious way to split a file into
multiple parts with DOS.

One more warning: make sure that your network configuration for your
PCMCIA card is in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts INSTEAD OF /etc/init.d/network.
In general, /etc/init.d/network should contain information only for the
loopback device when using a PCMCIA Ethernet card.

Brian


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80M Thanks, and new question :)

1998-03-03 Thread Russ Cook
First, thanks to all who offered me the solution to make Linux recognize my
80MB ram.  This user list is the best thing I've seen on the net.

Second, my xserver-svga is now working with my Matrox Mystique 220 card.  I
was still running the version from Bo.  I upgraded to the hamm version, and
all is well with the world (for X windows).  Which is the lead-in for my
next question.

I have numerous packages installed on my system.  In the case of the
xserver-svga package, the version number of the Bo package was higher than
that of the Hamm package, and it was not apparent to me that I needed to
reinstall it.  Is there a script similar to autoup.sh which will examine my
system and compare my installed packages against the available Hamm
packages, and tell me which ones need to be upgraded?

This would be a long, tedious, hit-and-miss procedure to do by hand.  I
tried to compile the famous "Hello World" program last night, and got the
error that stdio.h could not be found.  I tried to install libc6-dev, and
it won't install.  I get a script error.  I'm not at the machine right now,
I'm at work, so I don't have the exact message.  Other packages, such as
libperl-dev, won't install/configure without libc6-dev.

I have already run autoup.sh.  Are there additional scripts to help me
complete my upgrade?
Thanks for any and all help.

BTW, I still can't email out from Linux using Pine and Sendmail.  I have to
use Windows :(.  The problem seems to be in my username and domain.  My ISP
doesn't recognize me.

Thanks again,
Russ

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Re: dselect (Re: Using dpkg for a custom installation from cdrom media)

1998-03-03 Thread Joost Kooij
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote:

> 
> 
>   Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Joost Kooij wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote:
> > 
> > > > Was that a kernel you brewed yourself with kernel-package? Then it
> > > > probably wasn't mentioned in a "Packages" file. How would dselect know
> > > > about your package then? 
> > > 
> > > It's one from Herbert Xu that's not showing up in stable or bo-update:
> > > 
> > > http://cgi.debian.org/www-master/debian.org/Packages/unstable/devel/kernel-source-2.0.33.html
> > > 
> > > not sure why it's in unstable/devel since it looks like a stable (even
> > > number) release.
> > 
> > Stable and unstable kernel releases have nothing to do with stable and
> > unstable debian distribution trees. The Debian unstable tree always has
> > stable kernels for instance.
> > 
> > The stable and unstable debian distribution tree have different Packages
> > files though. Since the kernel included with "stable" has no major bugs
> > that needed to be fixed, it hasn't been changed in the bo tree and neither
> > in bo's Packages file. Maybe that explains why you didn't see it; you're
> > looking at the Packages file from bo.
> 
> What would point dselect at this particular kernel then?  (2.0.33)
> 
> unstable?

Yes, but since there's a big difference between current stable and
unstable (libc5 vs. libc6) there's slightly more to it than pointing
dselect at the unstable tree. 

Testing is currently being done to make the transition as smooth as
possible (another great thing of Debian; other distributions require you
to scrap your existing setup and reinstall completely.) 

You can move to unstable too, but you'll have to read the HOWTO on the
subject and follow the advice pretty closely, because it's a big thing to
go from one libc major version to another. 

You'll be better off with a fast net connection too, because almost all
packages have newer versions (linked against different libs and a lot of
newer versions.)

If you're on a 14k4 modem link, better wait a  month or two
until the debian 2.0 cd's are in the shops .

You can find the upgrade-HOWTO at

http://taz.net.au/autoup/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: Netscape fails to automatically open ps, ram, ...

1998-03-03 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Fernando Tadeu C Brandt wrote:
> 
> > Netscape is showing the following error box when I try to open 
> > postscripts, sound file, etc:
> > 
> > sh: -c line 1: missing closing ')' for arithmetic expression
> > sh: -c line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
> > sh: -c line 1: '((gv /tmp/MO34FAF5B0003B1); rm /tmp/MO34FAF5B0003B1 )&'
> This is the classic symptom of running the somewhat-buggy bash-2.0 in bo.
> 
> I would suggest upgrading to hamm to get around this.  There is a bo
> version of bash-2.05 around which provides a workaround, but you have to
> be very careful when you do upgrade to hamm if you have that version
> installed (I found out the hard way). 

Actually, that's bash-2.01 and the problems with it when upgrading to
hamm have been resolved (version numbering things).  There is now a
bash-2.01 in ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/bo-unstable/


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Re: hamm bugs

1998-03-03 Thread Joel Klecker
At 21:59 +0100 1998-03-02, Jonas Bofjall wrote:
>I tried to install the `hamm' distribution today on a fresh installation.
>Is that not possible yet? Anyway, I encountered the following problems
>during installation which might be of value to someone:
>
>* The disk partitioning program did not work. When I created a maximum
>  size partition it said it was 1 MB large. It also said that the previous
>  partition (which I deleted) was 1 MB (it was not). The disk is 500 MB.
>  I used the original `fdisk' program in another console and it worked.

Please file a bug against 'boot-floppies' regarding this. Be sure to
mention that 'cfdisk' is the program you're having trouble with.

>*  The `adduser' program doesn't work. When I specify a user name and
>   hit enter it responds with an error message that no user name was
>   specified, and asks me for user name again. I had to kill the script.

Hmm... that's odd. Is this when it is invoked after the system is initially
rebooted after the install of the base system? You probably should file a
bug against 'base' regarding this too.

>* Install by FTP did not work. It says "Perl 5.002 required--this is
>  only version 5.00404" ... "stopped /usr/lib/perl5/vars.pm line 3"
>  ... "BEGIN failed"..."FTP.pm line 14" ... "exit status 2".
>  NFS seems to work though (tried ftp.leidenuniv.nl).

The base system is missing some packages that dpkg-ftp needs (data-dumper
and libnet-perl, IIRC). A bug has been filed against base regarding this.

>* Gives me some error messages about "broken pipe" when I have specified
>  the NFS server and directory, but I don't think they are serious
>  because installation continues.

Probably just a transient network error of some sort.

>* There are very strange dependencies. "libc5 depends on libc6
>  (>=2.0.4-1)" and "libc6 conflicts with libc5 (<<5.4.33-7)". Does this
>  mean that it's impossible to install libc5?

No. It means libc5 depends on libc6[1] greater than or equal to version
2.0.4-1, and libc6 conflicts with libc5[2] less than version 5.4.33-7.

[1] This dependencany is because of the specially modified versions of
library routines that read/write utmp, the normal libc5 functions for this
are incompatible with the libc6 ones, so the hamm libc5 actually calls the
libc6 functions for those calls.

[2] This conflict is because prior versions installed in /lib (in hamm,
libc5 libraries go in /lib/libc5-compat and/or /usr/lib/libc5-compat so
libc5 and libc6 versions of libraries can coexist on the same system).

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Re: Netscape fails to automatically open ps, ram, ...

1998-03-03 Thread Joel Klecker
At 13:39 -0700 1998-03-02, Bob Nielsen wrote:
>This is the classic symptom of running the somewhat-buggy bash-2.0 in bo.
>
>I would suggest upgrading to hamm to get around this.  There is a bo
>version of bash-2.05 around which provides a workaround, but you have to
>be very careful when you do upgrade to hamm if you have that version
>installed (I found out the hard way).

You mean 2.01, and the bo-unstable version will work fine upgrading to hamm.

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RE: 80 MB ram in debian system

1998-03-03 Thread Joel Klecker
At 14:52 -0500 1998-03-02, Vladislav Papayan x285 wrote:
>I am also planning to add more than 64 mb to my machine.
>However I do not have /etc/lilo.conf. I always boot from
>a floppy disk (when creating a kernel I just do make bzdisk).
>What should I do in that case?

lilo's append option means "append the following arguments to the arguments
passed to the kernel", so you need to pass 'mem=m' to the kernel somehow.

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e2fsprogs

1998-03-03 Thread Bob Hilliard
 I have just upgraded to e2fsprogs 1.10-11, and no they ARE the
same file.  Sorry to bother you about a non-current version!

bob:vc-2:bob>ls -li /sbin/mkfs.ext2
  86036 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root root17116 Jan 29 12:56
/sbin/mkfs.ext2*
bob:vc-2:bob>ls -li /sbin/mke2fs
  86036 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root root17116 Jan 29 12:56
/sbin/mke2fs*

 What, if any, is the advantage of installing these (or any other
files) as hard links instead of symlinks?

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Re: smail (again..... sheesh..)

1998-03-03 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Beattie) writes:

> Okay... over the last 2-3 months I have been subscribed to this list, I
> have noticed a predominant percentage of messages are about smail, and
> it's configuration.
> 
> Obviously, I have a question. What I would like to know is what are
> peoples opinion's on their own configurations, and what the pro's and
> con's are. One I can think of; Daniel's rewriting of /etc/smail/config
> every login, versus having visible_name set to your ISP's domain, to
> have a valid hostname. (All of these questions relate to dial-up 
> configurations)

Well, I can give you some advantages/disadvantages of what I do.  The
advantage is that Sender: addresses are always correct in some sense,
and the envelope From: address seems to be written correctly as
well.  The disadvantage is that re-running smailconfig breaks this
setup (or rather, anything you get by running smailconfig is wiped out 
at the next ip-up).  It's probably the wrong thing to do for someone
whose box only ever has one user who's sending mail.

> Another question is, what is better: using a smarthost for all mail, or
> for mail that fails? opinions here

Well... any mail composed while offline is just going to end up going
through the smarthost anyway, so why not use a smarthost all the time?
The only time I'd consider not using a smarthost for all mail (for a
dialup ppp box) would be when one's smarthost was notoriously slow.

> What would people suggest in my situation, where my ISP's SMTP server
> does not mind invalid hostnames? should I just use it as a smarthost,
> and forget about visible_name? I have not understood how to set up a
> smarthost, how is this done?

Yep.  Setting this situation up is easy - in smailconfig choose the
"internet site" option, give your ISP's name as your visible name, and
enter their smtp server as your smarthost.  Or, if you insist on
editing your /etc/smail/routers file directly, replace all routes with 
this one:

smart_host:
driver=smarthost, transport=smtp;
path=your.isps.smtp.server


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Re: wtmp upgrade problems

1998-03-03 Thread Bob Clark
Paul McDermott wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody, I am having problems with some programs after the bo to
> hamm upgrade.  when I use last or any other commands that use the file
> wtmp.  I have some problems, ie last does give me garbage for people
> logged in.  The other problem is that wtmp does not update the anonymous
> ftp account.  I have 2 logged in for the past two days.  I did the steps
> after the upgrade to create a new wtmp file. mv wtmp, touch wtmp rm -f
> /var/log/utmp. touch utmp then shutdown -r now.  things did not change.
> At least this month I don't have garbage from the last output.  Anyone
> else have this problem.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Paul
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>From the excellent auotup.sh script:
# The latest version of this script can always be found at:
#   http://www.taz.net.au/autoup/autoup/
# and at:
#   http://csanders.vicnet.net.au/autoup/
#
# please check that you have the latest version before
running this
# script.
[ snipped ]
Finally, remember to fix up wtmp and utmp, otherwise last
and
who and sac etc wont work. here's what Miquel van
Smoorenburg
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> had to say about this recently in
debian-user
mailing list:

> 1. You need to update ALL your packages to hamm
> 2. Reboot if you haven't done that already
> 3. You need to move the wtmp file and truncate the
utmp file:
>cd /var/log
>mv wtmp wtmp.libc5
>touch wtmp
>cd /var/run
>cp /dev/null utmp
> 4. You might want to reboot again to make sure
> 
> This is because the "struct utmp" and thus the utmp
and wtmp
> "databases" are different between libc5 and libc6


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Re: e2fsprogs (Was: Unidentified subject!)

1998-03-03 Thread Bob Hilliard
Bill Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well on my hamm system they ARE the same file (hard link):
> 
> bash-2.01$ ls -li /sbin/mke2fs
>   19716 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root  root 17116 Jan 29 12:56 /sbin/mke2fs
> bash-2.01$ ls -li /sbin/mkfs.ext2
>   19716 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root  root 17116 Jan 29 12:56 /sbin/mkfs.ext2

 I have e2fsprogs 1.10-10 on my hamm system.  What version do
you have installed?

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Re: How to remove Boot block

1998-03-03 Thread Bob Clark
Pascal MIQUET wrote:
> 
> I've install Linux with LiLO as super boot block.
> 
> I'd like to change it and make only LiLO for my LiNUX partition.
> 
> How can I remove this kind of information on ms SCSI PS/2 boot disk !
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
I don't understand what you are asking.  Post your
/etc/lilo.conf file and your partition information.  If you
want to revert to your old MBR or reinstall a DOS boot
record then there are a couple of ways to proceed.  Do you
want to keep Linux on your machine?

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Re: dselect (Re: Using dpkg for a custom installation from cdrom media)

1998-03-03 Thread Henry Hollenberg


Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Joost Kooij wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote:
> 
> > Hello Joost and thanks for the reply.
> > 
> > I've been tinkering with dselect and I think I've figured out enough to
> > get it to do what it can for me..as far as that goes.
> 
> Oh, sorry, I didn't quite get that. 
> 
> You could have made a Packages file yourself, with dpkg-scanpackages and
> put that in a DIY archive and use it with dselect (making a custom
> archive). You'll have to make an "override" file too, to get
> dpkg-scanpackages to add sections to the packages entries in the Packages
> file. You can find examples in the ftp.debian.org /debian/indices/
> directory.

Is override.bo.gz the example you refer to?

I just downloaded it and will have a look a little later...have to run an
errand.

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Re: dselect (Re: Using dpkg for a custom installation from cdrom media)

1998-03-03 Thread Henry Hollenberg


Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Joost Kooij wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote:
> 
> > > Was that a kernel you brewed yourself with kernel-package? Then it
> > > probably wasn't mentioned in a "Packages" file. How would dselect know
> > > about your package then? 
> > 
> > It's one from Herbert Xu that's not showing up in stable or bo-update:
> > 
> > http://cgi.debian.org/www-master/debian.org/Packages/unstable/devel/kernel-source-2.0.33.html
> > 
> > not sure why it's in unstable/devel since it looks like a stable (even
> > number) release.
> 
> Stable and unstable kernel releases have nothing to do with stable and
> unstable debian distribution trees. The Debian unstable tree always has
> stable kernels for instance.
> 
> The stable and unstable debian distribution tree have different Packages
> files though. Since the kernel included with "stable" has no major bugs
> that needed to be fixed, it hasn't been changed in the bo tree and neither
> in bo's Packages file. Maybe that explains why you didn't see it; you're
> looking at the Packages file from bo.

What would point dselect at this particular kernel then?  (2.0.33)

unstable?


> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Joost
> 


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Re: dselect (Re: Using dpkg for a custom installation from cdrom media)

1998-03-03 Thread Joost Kooij
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote:

> > Was that a kernel you brewed yourself with kernel-package? Then it
> > probably wasn't mentioned in a "Packages" file. How would dselect know
> > about your package then? 
> 
> It's one from Herbert Xu that's not showing up in stable or bo-update:
> 
> http://cgi.debian.org/www-master/debian.org/Packages/unstable/devel/kernel-source-2.0.33.html
> 
> not sure why it's in unstable/devel since it looks like a stable (even
> number) release.

Stable and unstable kernel releases have nothing to do with stable and
unstable debian distribution trees. The Debian unstable tree always has
stable kernels for instance.

The stable and unstable debian distribution tree have different Packages
files though. Since the kernel included with "stable" has no major bugs
that needed to be fixed, it hasn't been changed in the bo tree and neither
in bo's Packages file. Maybe that explains why you didn't see it; you're
looking at the Packages file from bo.

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: LI instead of LILO:

1998-03-03 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Daniel Mashao wrote:

> I just installed a new Debian system. I had to copy the base1 disk X times
> on Y disks to get Debian to install. But now I get a LI instead of the
> expected LILO:
> What can I do without having to do a complete reinstall?

This is the boot loader providing some status.  Each letter indicates 
a particular phase of the boot process.  Take a look at the LILO
howto to see what "LI" refers to.

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remote execution

1998-03-03 Thread Ciccio
Hi,

I've a debian/linux box as a server for a LAN with all kinds of windows, 
running samba and ksmbfs. Is there any posibility to execute remotely a 
non-interactive program from the linux on any of the windows?

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as I'm not currently on this list.

Thanks,

ciccio



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Re: dselect (Re: Using dpkg for a custom installation from cdrom media)

1998-03-03 Thread Henry Hollenberg


Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Joost Kooij wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote:
> 
> > Hello Joost and thanks for the reply.
> > 
> > I've been tinkering with dselect and I think I've figured out enough to
> > get it to do what it can for me..as far as that goes.
> 
> Oh, sorry, I didn't quite get that. 
> 
> > But I'm trying to do a "custom" install with alots of selected packages
> > for a bastion host/firewall.  This would be cumbersome to do by hand on
> > the three machines that would make up the firewall.
> 
> > therefore I believe dselect just will not have the functionality required
> > for this project and that is why I'm looking into dpkg.
> 
> You're probably wrong about that:
> - theoretically because: dselect builds on dpkg; it provides extra
> functionality that dpkg doesn't have and calls upon dpkg to do what dpkg
> can.
> - practically because: see suggestions below;
> 
> > It looks as if dpkg can probably pull it off.I'm just not sure how to
> > use it in this complex scenario.I've used it for simpler stuff and it
> > works great.installing a kernel dselect couldn't find for instance
> > (2.0.33).
> 
> Was that a kernel you brewed yourself with kernel-package? Then it
> probably wasn't mentioned in a "Packages" file. How would dselect know
> about your package then? 

It's one from Herbert Xu that's not showing up in stable or bo-update:

http://cgi.debian.org/www-master/debian.org/Packages/unstable/devel/kernel-source-2.0.33.html

not sure why it's in unstable/devel since it looks like a stable (even
number) release.

once I had the .deb file downloaded I cd'ed to that directory as su and
ran "dpkg -i ./*.deb

and I had my stable sources installed.

then I did "make menuconfig" in the new sources directory tree
then I did, "make-kpkg kernel-image"
then edited lilo.conf
then cd'ed to /usr/src where the new compiled kernel package .deb file was
and ran "dpkg -i *.deb"

and bingo I had a lean mean tuned kernel (also downloaded the latest 3com
driver source from Donald Becker and put that in the source tree before
compilation, 3c59x.c).

> 
> Dselect's standard way of getting to know what packages are available in
> an archive is to run dpkg --update-avail on the Packages file that comes
> with the archive. 
> 
> You could have made a Packages file yourself, with dpkg-scanpackages and
> put that in a DIY archive and use it with dselect (making a custom
> archive). You'll have to make an "override" file too, to get
> dpkg-scanpackages to add sections to the packages entries in the Packages
> file. You can find examples in the ftp.debian.org /debian/indices/
> directory.

Now we're getting somewhere!

I'm going to have to print this one and read and think awhile!

Thanks  hgh
> 
> Or (not using an archive at all) you could have used dpkg --avail
> custom-kernel.deb. I'm afraid you'd have to put the .deb on a floppy to
> use it with dselect, because that's the only way it knows how to deal with
> a non-archive. In this simple case, dpkg -i by hand is more convinient of
> course.
> 
> > so my question remains, what are the steps?
> 
> Another solution is to build a package with dependencies on all the
> packages you want to install. Create an archive that contains that
> package, the packages it depends on and packages that those depend on.
> Since you want to build a firewall, you'll probably want to put in a
> _lot_ of conflicts as well ;-).
> Use dpkg-scanpackages to generate a Packages file. Burn it on a cd or
> put it on your ftp site and it should work fine with dselect and deity.
> 
> If you're really serious about creating your own cd, then dselect is
> definately the way to go.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Joost
> 


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wtmp upgrade problems

1998-03-03 Thread Paul McDermott
Hello everybody, I am having problems with some programs after the bo to
hamm upgrade.  when I use last or any other commands that use the file
wtmp.  I have some problems, ie last does give me garbage for people
logged in.  The other problem is that wtmp does not update the anonymous
ftp account.  I have 2 logged in for the past two days.  I did the steps
after the upgrade to create a new wtmp file. mv wtmp, touch wtmp rm -f
/var/log/utmp. touch utmp then shutdown -r now.  things did not change.
At least this month I don't have garbage from the last output.  Anyone
else have this problem.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Paul
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Re: dselect (Re: Using dpkg for a custom installation from cdrom media)

1998-03-03 Thread Joost Kooij
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote:

> Hello Joost and thanks for the reply.
> 
> I've been tinkering with dselect and I think I've figured out enough to
> get it to do what it can for me..as far as that goes.

Oh, sorry, I didn't quite get that. 

> But I'm trying to do a "custom" install with alots of selected packages
> for a bastion host/firewall.  This would be cumbersome to do by hand on
> the three machines that would make up the firewall.

> therefore I believe dselect just will not have the functionality required
> for this project and that is why I'm looking into dpkg.

You're probably wrong about that:
- theoretically because: dselect builds on dpkg; it provides extra
functionality that dpkg doesn't have and calls upon dpkg to do what dpkg
can.
- practically because: see suggestions below;

> It looks as if dpkg can probably pull it off.I'm just not sure how to
> use it in this complex scenario.I've used it for simpler stuff and it
> works great.installing a kernel dselect couldn't find for instance
> (2.0.33).

Was that a kernel you brewed yourself with kernel-package? Then it
probably wasn't mentioned in a "Packages" file. How would dselect know
about your package then? 

Dselect's standard way of getting to know what packages are available in
an archive is to run dpkg --update-avail on the Packages file that comes
with the archive. 

You could have made a Packages file yourself, with dpkg-scanpackages and
put that in a DIY archive and use it with dselect (making a custom
archive). You'll have to make an "override" file too, to get
dpkg-scanpackages to add sections to the packages entries in the Packages
file. You can find examples in the ftp.debian.org /debian/indices/
directory.

Or (not using an archive at all) you could have used dpkg --avail
custom-kernel.deb. I'm afraid you'd have to put the .deb on a floppy to
use it with dselect, because that's the only way it knows how to deal with
a non-archive. In this simple case, dpkg -i by hand is more convinient of
course.

> so my question remains, what are the steps?

Another solution is to build a package with dependencies on all the
packages you want to install. Create an archive that contains that
package, the packages it depends on and packages that those depend on.
Since you want to build a firewall, you'll probably want to put in a
_lot_ of conflicts as well ;-).
Use dpkg-scanpackages to generate a Packages file. Burn it on a cd or
put it on your ftp site and it should work fine with dselect and deity.

If you're really serious about creating your own cd, then dselect is
definately the way to go.

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: Pine configuration changed

1998-03-03 Thread Leszek Gerwatowski
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Leszek Gerwatowski wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > In the latest (hamm) pine 3.96L-2,  I am getting asked (today, March 1)
> > > the question:
> > > 
> > > To save disk space, delete old SENT mail folder "sent-mail-jan-1998" ?
> > > 
> > > everytime I execute pine.  Formerly it was only asked once at the
> > > beginning of each month (maybe it will go away tomorrow!).
> > > 
> > > I checked both ~/.pinerc and /etc/pine.conf and neither has anything
> > > specified for pruned-folders.  Is there a way to stop this?
> > 
> > I noticed it also. Solution: change owner of your ~/.pinerc file. It's
> > owned by root (I don't know why) and it cannot be changed by normal user
> > (pine checks date of this file and if it's older than 1 month - it's
> > from month different than actual? - it asks about sent-mail* folders).
> 
> Thanks, that fixed it.  Funny though, it only changed ownership for my
> login account, not for the others on my system.
> 

This same way it was on my computer- only my account's .pinerc was
changed. Maybe because it was installed from my account (i was in my home 
and was installed from root's account).

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Re: Thanks :)

1998-03-03 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:

> Uh huh... that wasnt my question, but I have since installed procmail as a
> result of that thread. I guess I have another question, the smail
> configuration (transports) that procmail suggests, anybody had problems
> with it?? (this one:)
> 
> local:  return_path, local, from, driver=pipe; user=root,
> cmd="/usr/bin/procmail -d $($user$)"

I'll let the smail experts chime in on this one.

> and again, this rule for procmail, (above) where does this Resent-cc thing
> come in, and why does it need to be removed?

Put it in your "~/.procmailrc".  It will put all the debian realated mail
in a mail/Deb-user file.  BTW, the following should be at the top of your
.procmailrc:

# the following the the .procmailrc for Brandon Mitchell
# first some variables are initialized
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/home/bhmit1/bin
HOME=/home/bhmit1
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail  # you'd better make sure it exists
DEFAULT=/var/spool/mail/bhmit1  # completely optional
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.procmail/lockmail
LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail/from.log# you probably want to trim this
PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail   # put all procmail scripts here
VERBOSE=off # turn on for debuging the logfile

Then, in pine, add mail/Deb-user to the list of incoming-folders.  Tabing
at the end of one folder should offer opening the next one with new
messages in it.

Good luck,
Brandon

P.S. I almost forgot, removing the Resent-cc will eliminate the problem in
pine when replying to this group.  No more unexpected data in the cc list.

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Re: disk partitions (part 3) ... :D

1998-03-03 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello,
==

> I guess installing LILO on the boot sector of the linux partition will
> have the save result as placing it in the MBR. I installed Linux first,
> and then win95. It should still be possible to boot Linux, but as I have
> to init my soundcard with a DOS util, I use loadlin. 
> Installing LILO on the bootsector of the linux partition and making it
> bootable is quite a good way of booting and still having a win95 MBR.

Yes, it should be the same effect. At home my Linux partition is at
secondary drive, and I didn't want to mess my MBR and partition tables and
whatever they are, so I decided to put LILO on a floppy disk and when I want
to start Linux , I simply reset the computer with the floppy inserted and it
is (almost) as fast as having LILO at the hard disk.

All the best,
Peter

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LI instead of LILO:

1998-03-03 Thread Daniel Mashao
I just installed a new Debian system. I had to copy the base1 disk X times
on Y disks to get Debian to install. But now I get a LI instead of the
expected LILO:
What can I do without having to do a complete reinstall?


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Re: disk partitions (part 3) ... :D

1998-03-03 Thread M.C. Bezemer


On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Peter Paluch wrote:

>[snip]
> 
> I think that is rather simple by doing (in dos) 'fdisk /mbr'. However, I'm
> afraid it erases LILO out of the MBR as well.
> 
>[snip]

I guess installing LILO on the boot sector of the linux partition will
have the save result as placing it in the MBR. I installed Linux first,
and then win95. It should still be possible to boot Linux, but as I have
to init my soundcard with a DOS util, I use loadlin. 
Installing LILO on the bootsector of the linux partition and making it
bootable is quite a good way of booting and still having a win95 MBR.

Greetings,
 Maarten Bezemer



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Re: Netscape fails to automatically open ps, ram, ...

1998-03-03 Thread John Kloss

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Fredrik Ax wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Fernando Tadeu C Brandt wrote:
> > 
> > > Netscape is showing the following error box when I try to open 
> > > postscripts, sound file, etc:
> > > 
> > > sh: -c line 1: missing closing ')' for arithmetic expression
> > > sh: -c line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
> > > sh: -c line 1: '((gv /tmp/MO34FAF5B0003B1); rm /tmp/MO34FAF5B0003B1 )&'
> > > 
> [SNIP]
> 
> > This is the classic symptom of running the somewhat-buggy bash-2.0 in bo.
> > 
> 
> The problem is that bash interpretates "((" not as two seperate brackets
> but as a bracket for expression evaluated according to the arithmetic
> evaluation rules and therefore misses the closing "))" bracket.
> 
> 
> > I would suggest upgrading to hamm to get around this.  There is a bo
> > version of bash-2.05 around which provides a workaround, but you have to
> > be very careful when you do upgrade to hamm if you have that version
> > installed (I found out the hard way). 
> 
> A faster solution whould be to install "ash" wich is distributed in
> version 0.2-1 in bo. Use dselect, or for even faster install 
> "dpkg -i bo/binary/shells/ash_0.2-1.deb" from your Debian 1.3x
> distribution.
> 
> When installed change the symlink name sh in /bin to point at ash 
> instead of bash:
> 
> % cd /bin
> % ln -sf ash sh
> 

Okay, maybe this was a stupid thing to do, but I used emacs to edit the
binaries. On line 17183 of my version of netscape (4.04) I changed the
line

(([EMAIL PROTECTED] %s | ^@); rm %.200s )&

to

( ([EMAIL PROTECTED] %s| ^@ ); rm %.200s)&

and things seemed to work just fine. At least I got rvplayer to work that
way and netscape doesn't crash (so far).

I'm sure the better solution is to upgrade to hamm, but I'm waiting for
the code freeze before I order the cd's (I just have this hangup about
using something that says unstable).

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Re: dselect (Re: Using dpkg for a custom installation from cdrom media)

1998-03-03 Thread Henry Hollenberg

Hello Joost and thanks for the reply.

I've been tinkering with dselect and I think I've figured out enough to
get it to do what it can for me..as far as that goes.

But I'm trying to do a "custom" install with alots of selected packages
for a bastion host/firewall.  This would be cumbersome to do by hand on
the three machines that would make up the firewall.

Also, we are trying to come up with a somewhat automated and well worked
out procedure for building a Debian based firewall, see:

http://www.weikert.de/debwall/

and

debian-firewall@lists.debian.org

therefore I believe dselect just will not have the functionality required
for this project and that is why I'm looking into dpkg.

It looks as if dpkg can probably pull it off.I'm just not sure how to
use it in this complex scenario.I've used it for simpler stuff and it
works great.installing a kernel dselect couldn't find for instance
(2.0.33).

so my question remains, what are the steps?

?

base install

su
mount cdrom
cd /mnt/stable
dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/custom_package_list -R

?

I've got some new machines coming in this morning so I'll try this out
blindly soon, but would appreciate any guidance from the gurus.

Thanks

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Re: I need help

1998-03-03 Thread tko
Ivan & Ines Rojas writes:
> 
> Hi there,
> I just finish installing and setting my linux box, which wasn't a easy job
> for a windows user :-) and then I decided to use PPP.
> I install the module accordingly with the PPP-HOWTO but I'm missing the
> ppp-on and ppp-off files.
> 
> I have no idea if I did something wrong, eventhough I didn't do much either.
> 
> But any ways, my question is: how can I put these files in my system? can I
> just create them from the scratch using emacs or any editor? if that's so,
> where can I get the file templates?
> 
> Please help me, I really want to try linux connected to internet, I've been
> trying 4 months to setup this machine and right now I just can logon, mess
> around and type "shutdown -r now". I'm starting to feel a little frustrated
> :-(
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> Ivan

You probably need to force the de-installation of the PPP package and
re-install it from scratch. I ran into that problem when I first tried to
finalize PPP. Once you re-install the PPP package, follow the directions in
/usr/doc/ppp/README.debian.gz  That file will have the most "up-to-date" info.
I kept reading horror stories about how difficult PPP was. When I
de/re-installed PPP and followed the indicated file directions, PPP started up
ok! The only thing which you might want to shutoff from the debian default in
/etc/ppp/options file is the "proxyarp" option if you don't need it.

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dselect (Re: Using dpkg for a custom installation from cdrom media)

1998-03-03 Thread Joost Kooij
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote:

> I have a particular list of packages I would like to install saved in
> a file and am using a 3 CD-ROM Debian 1.3.1 set I got with Dale Scheetz's
> book as my media.
> 
> I imagine I need to mount the cdrom and use dpkg --get-selections and 
> dpkg --set-selections and maybe cd to the cdrom stable directory then do
> some sort of dpkg -R command

No, you just need to use the dselect program. 

> but I have no idea how to hang all these steps together.

Dselect takes care of most of the detail work.

> Anybody know how to do this?type/talk slowly so I can see your
> lips move.

First become superuser (root) to be able to make system-level changes; you
do this with the command "su -" and typing in root's password at the
prompt.

Next, type the "dselect" command.

Now, read slowly what messages dselect shows on screen, or you might get
confused at a later stage about the purpose of the questions dselect asks
you and what keypresses are at your disposition to instruct dselect.
Generally, every time dselect comes up with a screen of informative text,
read it thoroughly before hitting the "space" key. Another valuable
piece of knowledge is that pressing the "?" key brings you to a help
screen, where you can find out about the general purpose and setup of
dselect (more or less what I'm typing here) and about specific
keybindings.

The first time you are going to use your cd, you'll have to set the
"Access method". If you have installed the system from cd, then it
probably isn't necessary set the access method again and you can skip
this step.

Every time you insert a new cd, you have to "Update the available list",
so that the dselect engine (called dpkg) knows what packages are available
for installation. If you just want to add a package from a cd that you
have previously used, then you can safely assume that dpkg still knows
what's available and skip this step.

Next comes the "Select" part. This is often the most difficult and
confusing part because it requires the most user interaction. 
You're first shown an informative text. Read it. When you're finished, you
arrive at the list of available packages.  The list shows a lot of
information at once, so don't be confused. If you are not sure about the
meaning of symbols, just press "?" and read the on-line documentation. 

Because there are so many available packages (more then you would ever
want - or even could - install on your system,) it is the easiest to find
a package by its name if you know a part of that. Press "/" and type a
part of the package's name and hit "enter". If that gives a result that is
not quite right, press "\" (yes, I know, this isn't the most intuitive key
for the job) to search for the next match until you find what you're
looking for. 

To mark a package for installation, you move the selection bar to the line
that lists the package. You can also mark a group of packages by putting
the selection bar on the group's header in the list, but I don't advise
you to do this until you understand all about the dependency mechanism as
explained below. Selecting a lot of packages at once is very likely to
cause a bunch of dependency conflicts between packages at once and this is
very confusing, even to the initiated. 

There are a couple of keybindings to mark a package for installation, I
always use "insert", but that doesn't always work when I login remotely
over the net, so you might want to check all the possibilities. Just press
the "?" key and lookup the keybindings.

Assuming you have found the package you want to add to your system, mark
it for installation. This will not install it yet, it just tells dselect
that you want dpkg to install it in a later phase.  One reason to do
things this way is to allow the dselect program to check your wishes
against package dependencies. Some packages conflict, you can't have them
installed at the same time. Others depend, you must have one to install
the other. The dpkg engine won't install packages until these dependencies
are resolved.

This is what dselect is good at, it tries to help you along in resolving
the dependencies. When you change a package's status, by marking or
unmarking it, dselect will look for dependency issues and if it detects
cinflicts, it steps in and presents the (in)famous dependency screen. This
is one of the things that has so many people confused, while it is in fact
one of the best things since sliced bread. It is (apart from the high
standards and strong consistency of the distribution) the big difference
between Debian's packaging tools and The Others. 

What happens when dselect finds a dependency unresolved is that it first
shows you an informative message. Read it. Next, you see a sublist of the
entire packages list with only those packages that are in some way or
another involved in the dependency. Dselect has already suggested a
marking for each package involved, but you can still change the suggested
markings

How to remove Boot block

1998-03-03 Thread Pascal MIQUET
I've install Linux with LiLO as super boot block.

I'd like to change it and make only LiLO for my LiNUX partition.

How can I remove this kind of information on ms SCSI PS/2 boot disk !

Thanks for your help.



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Re: disk partitions (part 3) ... :D

1998-03-03 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello,
==

oh, and I forgot that you need to REPAIR the win95 MBR... thought you've
been having problem installing lilo... Sorry.

I think that is rather simple by doing (in dos) 'fdisk /mbr'. However, I'm
afraid it erases LILO out of the MBR as well.

Everything the best,
Peter

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newbie ppp.....i need help

1998-03-03 Thread Alain Toussaint
look like you've got the same problem as me when i choose to ditch win95
and go for Linux,you need 3 files for hooking PPP to a Linux box:

rule no.1-:the PPP HOWTO say that you dont normaly have to touch (read:
edit) the file /etc/ppp/options ,but the one you wrote (King) should not
cause problem to your setup.

rule no.2-:the 3 files needed are called /etc/ppp.chatscript,
/etc/ppp.options_out and /etc/resolv.conf,here's the template for doing
them:

/etc/ppp.chatscript

ABORTBUSY
ABORT"NO CARRIER"
ABORTVOICE
ABORT"NO DIALTONE"
""   ATDT(your ISP phone number here)
ogin (your login name,ask your isp for it if you dont know it)
word (your password)

/etc/ppp.options_out

/dev/ttyS1 115200
noipdefault
modem
crtscts
defaultroute

p.s.the first line is my serial number and the baud rate for my modem (a
33.6) for a 14 400,you should use a 38 400 baud rate and replace my serial
number for the one you modem is connected with.

/etc/resolv.conf-

search . (the . is clearly a DOT,you'd better include it)
nameserver 255.255.255.255 (this line is bogus,replace the 255.255.255.255
with the one your ISP use,if you dont know what it is,call your ISP and
ask for the address of the DNS server.)



if there's anything else you have problem,feel free to mail me,hope to
have helped !!
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Re: disabling remote xdm logins

1998-03-03 Thread Joost Kooij
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Ossama Othman wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to disable remote xdm logins from terminals and from some
> remote xdm login widgets.  I tried to modify the Xaccess file according to
> the docs and then restarting xdm but I still can't seem to get xdm to stop  
> broadcasting to the rest of the machines on the same subnet that it is
> accepting xdm logins.
> 
> Could someone please explain how I can configure my debian system to stop
> accepting xdm logins from remote machines?

Look at the file /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess, it is full of comments that
describe the file's function and format:

# The first form tells xdm which displays to respond to itself.
# The second form tells xdm to forward indirect queries from hosts matching
# the specified pattern to the indicated list of hosts.
# The third form tells xdm to handle indirect queries using the chooser;
# the chooser is directed to send its own queries out via the broadcast
# address and display the results on the terminal.
# The fourth form is similar to the third, except instead of using the
# broadcast address, it sends DirectQuerys to each of the hosts in the list

You are probably mostly interested in the first form.
On my machine, where I haven't changed it, the first form entry reads:

*   #any host can get a login window

If you change the "*" to "localhost" then I guess that would stop xdm from
responding to any display (xserver) but the one on your console.

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-03-03 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Martin at cush) writes:

> However, if smail is handed a from address (either by the SMTP "MAIL
> FROM:" command or by the "-f" or "-r" option to the senmail command),
> smail will use that address.  Therefore it may be perfectly possible
> to convince your MUA to hand smail a from address.

Here's an idea then.

First, move the official sendmail out of the way:

# dpkg-divert /usr/sbin/sendmail

Then put a new sendmail in its place (this is a very brain dead
example):

-
#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;

if ((grep {$_ == '-f'} @ARGV) || (!exists($ENV{RETURNPATH}))) {
  exec '/usr/sbin/sendmail.distrib', @ARGV;
} else {
  exec '/usr/sbin/sendmail.distrib', '-f', $ENV{RETURNPATH}, @ARGV;
}

die "sendmail: couldn't exec /usr/sbin/sendmail.distrib: $!\n";
-

Now set RETURNPATH in your environment and smail's sendmail will get
called with "-f $RETURNPATH" unless there's already a "-f" in the
command line.  (It could have been an sh script, but I don't know how
to look in "$@" for "-f" in bash.)  It could be rewritten in C.

This is all completely untested, of course.

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Re: disk partitions (part 3) ... :D

1998-03-03 Thread Peter Paluch
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>From peterp Tue Mar  3 10:59:38 1998
Subject: Re: disk partitions (part 3) ... :D
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from Helmut Leinfellner at "Mar 3, 98 10:11:20 
am"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Helmut Leinfellner)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:59:38 +0100 (CET)
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Content-Length:  1038

Hello,
==

I've never run in any of these problems, but try this:

Set your disk as LBA and in lilo.conf, specify option 'linear'. This might
(but maybe not!) fix the problem.

> I've set CHS in the BIOS to 14848 - 9 - 63. But this is "NORMAL" and
> therefore DOS is in trouble.
> If I set it to "LBA" and 524 - 255 - 63 I'm having trouble with the MBR
> because lilo rewrote it (the Win95 version of the MBR) and I don't have the
> original MBR anymore ... How can I recover the Win95 version of the MBR ?

Peter Paluch

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Re: Modifying Routing Tables on the fly

1998-03-03 Thread Carey Evans
"Ian Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> USER=$( who|grep ttyS1 | awk '{printf $1}')

In the interests of eliminating unneeded commands, did you realise you 
can write this more easily as the following?

  USER=$(who | awk '$2=="ttyS1" { print $1 }')

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disk partitions (part 3) ... :D

1998-03-03 Thread Helmut Leinfellner
Hi !

I've still not solved the partition problem.   :-(

I've set CHS in the BIOS to 14848 - 9 - 63. But this is "NORMAL" and
therefore DOS is in trouble.
If I set it to "LBA" and 524 - 255 - 63 I'm having trouble with the MBR
because lilo rewrote it (the Win95 version of the MBR) and I don't have the
original MBR anymore ... How can I recover the Win95 version of the MBR ?

Also, if the BIOS is not set to CHS: 14848 - 9 - 63 and "NORMAL" (but to
"LBA" - for DOS to recognize the partitions), the system complains with
"Secondary Access Mode (CHS) [does] not match with SETUP." This is very
confusing because it happens right at boot time, after the BIOS.
14848 - 9 - 63 is what's written on the hard disk. If BIOS does recognize
the correct CHS setting of the actual harddisk, why am I having trouble
with lilo, accessing the MBR ???

Help !   :D

Helmut




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Re: Thanks :)

1998-03-03 Thread Jim
> Here, learn to fish :)
>   http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym

Give a man a fish...
   he'll have a meal that day...

Teach a man to fish...
   he'll sit on the boat drinking beer all day...

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Re: Slackware--->Debian

1998-03-03 Thread Jim
(The question was: "I have slackware; want debian; how reformat?")

Ans: The debian installation process will take care of all that
for you. You can repartition your drives -- if you want a different
mix of OSes than what you had with slack. Remember to back up anything
you created: songs, scripts, programs, poems, essays, drawings, etc.
then go to http://www.debian.org/docs/ and choose the debian installation
link, read the whole thing and go for it...

-Jim


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Re: Netscape fails to automatically open ps, ram, ...

1998-03-03 Thread Fredrik Ax
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Fernando Tadeu C Brandt wrote:
> 
> > Netscape is showing the following error box when I try to open 
> > postscripts, sound file, etc:
> > 
> > sh: -c line 1: missing closing ')' for arithmetic expression
> > sh: -c line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
> > sh: -c line 1: '((gv /tmp/MO34FAF5B0003B1); rm /tmp/MO34FAF5B0003B1 )&'
> > 
[SNIP]

> This is the classic symptom of running the somewhat-buggy bash-2.0 in bo.
> 

The problem is that bash interpretates "((" not as two seperate brackets
but as a bracket for expression evaluated according to the arithmetic
evaluation rules and therefore misses the closing "))" bracket.


> I would suggest upgrading to hamm to get around this.  There is a bo
> version of bash-2.05 around which provides a workaround, but you have to
> be very careful when you do upgrade to hamm if you have that version
> installed (I found out the hard way). 

A faster solution whould be to install "ash" wich is distributed in
version 0.2-1 in bo. Use dselect, or for even faster install 
"dpkg -i bo/binary/shells/ash_0.2-1.deb" from your Debian 1.3x
distribution.

When installed change the symlink name sh in /bin to point at ash 
instead of bash:

% cd /bin
% ln -sf ash sh

Good Luck
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Re: Yikes, sorry. (Was Re: make-kpkg)

1998-03-03 Thread Jim
Lorens Kockum said something to the effect of:
"Why get asked at all whether to run shadow passwds?"

There are multiple buffer overrun bugs in the shadow 
passwd suite as used by debian. The bugs seem to take
different forms in hamm than they do in bo; I'm not sure
why. I reported this as a critical bug in login (to the
effect that if lines in /etc/group are too long, NO ONE
LOGS IN), but the only reply I have received to date is
the automatic reply from the debian bugs robot.

It is my opinion that the shadow passwd suite needs to be
thoroughly and completely shaken down.

It's my understanding:
 -that any bug that would prevent anyone logging in, is
  critical; if I'm wrong on this, let me know, and I'll 
  reset the bug severity to something less than this. 
  Note, however, that such a bug has security implications
  as well, especially in the presence of buffer overrun
  problems. The silence after posting the bug makes me 
  suspect this is maybe the case, or that the shadow 
  passwd suite is orphaned. Could someone please let me 
  know either way?

 -that if a bug which is critical is not resolved, new
  versions of debian will not be released.

-Jim


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smail (again..... sheesh..)

1998-03-03 Thread Michael Beattie
Okay... over the last 2-3 months I have been subscribed to this list, I
have noticed a predominant percentage of messages are about smail, and
it's configuration.

Obviously, I have a question. What I would like to know is what are
peoples opinion's on their own configurations, and what the pro's and
con's are. One I can think of; Daniel's rewriting of /etc/smail/config
every login, versus having visible_name set to your ISP's domain, to
have a valid hostname. (All of these questions relate to dial-up 
configurations)

Another question is, what is better: using a smarthost for all mail, or
for mail that fails? opinions here

What would people suggest in my situation, where my ISP's SMTP server
does not mind invalid hostnames? should I just use it as a smarthost,
and forget about visible_name? I have not understood how to set up a
smarthost, how is this done?

I have been contemplating this topic and a decent solution for a while,
and have simply not been able to decide what to do

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

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The following is my complete smail configuration, for whoever wants to
read it and make suggestions. enhancements.. etc..


 /etc/smail/config -

visible_name=omnic.rumpus.net< LONG story
-domains
hostnames=omnic.rumpus.net:localhost < to support fetchmail

max_load_ave=5
smtp_accept_max=20
smtp_accept_queue=10
rfc1413_query_timeout=15

require_configs
-second_config_file
-qualify_file
-retry_file
copying_file=/usr/doc/smail/copyright
max_message_size=10M

received_field="Received: \
${if def:sender_host\
   {from $sender_host ${if def:sender_host_addr ([$sender_host_addr]) }}\
   {${if def:sender_host_addr:from [$sender_host_addr] }}}\
by $primary_name\n\t\
${if def:sender_proto: with $sender_proto }\
${if def:ident_sender:(ident $ident_sender using $ident_method) }\
id $message_id\n\t\
(Debian $version_string); $spool_date"

 end /etc/smail/config -

 /etc/smail/routers 

inet_addrs:
driver=gethostbyaddr, transport=smtp;
check_for_local, fail_if_error

inet_hosts:
driver=bind, transport=smtp;
defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames,
gateways=uu.net:uucp:+:cunyvm.cuny.edu:bitnet

 end /etc/smail/routers 

 /etc/smail/transports -

#local: driver=appendfile, from, local, inet, return_path, unix_from_hack;
#   append_as_user, check_user, file=/var/spool/mail/${lc:strip:user},
#   group=mail, mode=0660, notify_comsat, suffix="\n",

local:  return_path, local, from, driver=pipe; user=root,
cmd="/usr/bin/procmail -d $($user$)"

smtp:   driver=tcpsmtp, max_addrs=100, -max_chars, inet,
remove_header="From",
insert_header="From: ${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
($from:$fullname)}}",
remove_header="Message-ID",
insert_header="Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>",
remove_header="Sender",
insert_header="Sender: ${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
($from:$fullname)}}";
use_bind, defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames

uux:driver=pipe, uucp, from, max_addrs=5, max_chars=200;
cmd="/usr/bin/uux - -r $host!rmail $(($user)$)",
pipe_as_sender, log_output

pipe:   driver=pipe, from, local, inet, return_path, unix_from_hack;
cmd="/bin/sh -c $user", -ignore_status, -ignore_write_errors,
log_output, parent_env, pipe_as_user, umask=0077

file:   driver=appendfile, from, local, return_path, unix_from_hack;
append_as_user, file=$user, expand_user,
mode=0660, suffix="\n"

 end /etc/smail/transports -

 /etc/smail/directors --

aliases:
driver=aliasfile, owner=postmaster, sender_okay;
file=/etc/aliases, proto=lsearch,
modemask=002, owners=root:mail:daemon, owngroups=root:mail:daemon

dotforward:
driver=forwardfile, owner=postmaster, nobody, sender_okay;
file=~/.forward,
checkowner, modemask=022, owners=root,
unsecure=0-99:~ftp:~uucp:/tmp:/var/tmp,

user:
driver=user;
transport=local

real_user:
driver=user;
trans

Re: DMA Bus Mastering Reset on WDC AC34300L

1998-03-03 Thread cleto
Hi,
 
> I had the same problem recently with the same motherboard.  Changing the
> 'PCI Latency' in  the BIOS from 0 to 32 completly eliminated this
> phenomenon.  Since then there is no problems with bus mastering or hdparm
> from bo (kernel 2.0.33).  My HDD is a Quantum 1.6 G.

Yes, that seems to have solved the problem! Thank you very much for the
tip!
BTW, where did you find this information (just in case I need such info
again in the future)?

Cleto


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Re: Pine configuration changed

1998-03-03 Thread Anthony Campbell
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> > Did you try to run 'pine' as root? Did it change .pinerc's onwership?
> 
> I just tried it.  No, it left the ownership alone.   I haven't made any
> changes to my shell setup (bash-2.01) that would affect this.
> 
> Bob
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I just tried it on my system (plain su, not su - ) and it DID change the
ownership.  So I think that must be what was happening in my case anyway.

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Re: newbie ppp install question...

1998-03-03 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello,
==

I can't tell you right now what's the problem, but please be so kind as to
send me (to my personal address) your files /var/log/daemon.log and
/var/log/ppp.log and I might figure out what's happening. Note that there
could be your passwords visible, so erase them before you send it to me.

And what you could do right now - triple check your modem init string.


Awaiting your answer,
and wishing all the best,
Peter

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Unidentified subject!

1998-03-03 Thread Rolland Mathieu
ls latest
get latest/12


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Re: I need help (fwd)

1998-03-03 Thread Peter Paluch
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>From peterp Tue Mar  3 08:30:27 1998
Subject: Re: I need help
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from Ivan & Ines Rojas at "Mar 2, 98 09:30:41 
pm"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ivan & Ines Rojas)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:30:27 +0100 (CET)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)]
Content-Length:  1366

Hello,
==

> I just finish installing and setting my linux box, which wasn't a easy job
> for a windows user :-) and then I decided to use PPP.
> I install the module accordingly with the PPP-HOWTO but I'm missing the
> ppp-on and ppp-off files.

Apart from compiling the module into kernel, you also need to instal the ppp
package. It provides both pon, poff scripts and all the daemons needed to
succesfully run PPP.

> Please help me, I really want to try linux connected to internet, I've been
> trying 4 months to setup this machine and right now I just can logon, mess
> around and type "shutdown -r now". I'm starting to feel a little frustrated

Head up! Until I happened to understand Linux a bit, it took five and half
months :)))

> Thanks a lot.

Don't mention it... Hope it helps. 
Just write when it won't work.


All the best,
Peter

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Re: DE-660 PCMCIA Card problems

1998-03-03 Thread Bob Clark
You're getting close.  It appears that you have customized
your kernel and now you need to downlod the pcmcia-source
package and recompile it too.  You are probably trying to
load pcmcia modules that were built to be compatible with
the stock kernel image.  Follow the directions in
/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/debian/README and I recommend the
make-kpkg approach.

--Bob

Damon Muller wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> If anyone read my earlier message, I have resolved my problem of how to get
> the PCMCIA stuff onto a laptop without a CD-ROM or anything like that (just
> coppied them off my windoze machine onto a floppy and mounted it as vfat on
> debian).
> 
> Now I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck with getting a D-Link DE-660
> PCMCIA ethernet card running under linux? This card is not on the supported
> list, but I believe it is an update of the DE-650, which is on the
> supported list.
> 
> Anyway, I did RTFM (the PCMCIA-HOWTO), and followed the instructions,
> attempting to get it to run the same module as the 650 (pcnet_cs). This
> didn't work.
> 
> After pottering around for a while, I eventual found my way to the
> daemon.log, in which the PCMCIA stuff is logged. This is included below,
> and to my (novice) eyes, it doesn't look very promising!
> 
> BTW, I'm using Debian 1.3.1 (kernel 2.0.29), the PCMCIA-CS that was on the
> same CD and pcmcia-modules-2.0.29-7_2.9.6-3.deb.
> 
> Any help would be muchly apreciated!
> 
> damon
> 
> Mar  3 08:28:33 annapuna cardmgr[96]: initializing socket 0
> Mar  3 08:28:33 annapuna cardmgr[96]: socket 0: D-Link DE-660 Ethernet Card
> Mar  3 08:28:33 annapuna cardmgr[96]: executing: 'insmod
> /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/8390.o'
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: + /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/8390.o:
> unresolved symbol dev_alloc_skb_Re1879ac7
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: + /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/8390.o:
> unresolved symbol ether_setup_R49e2786a
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: + /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/8390.o:
> unresolved symbol eth_type_trans_R5d6ef009
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: + /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/8390.o:
> unresolved symbol netif_rx_R4c16cac7
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: + /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/8390.o:
> unresolved symbol dev_kfree_skb_R7154554e
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: + /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/8390.o:
> unresolved symbol dev_tint_R3dd5ae2a
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: insmod exited with status 1
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: executing: 'insmod
> /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o'
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: +
> /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o: unresolved symbol ei_open
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: +
> /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o: unresolved symbol ethdev_init
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: +
> /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o: unresolved symbol ei_debug
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: +
> /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o: unresolved symbol
> unregister_netdev_R8ca4afc9
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: +
> /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o: unresolved symbol ei_interrupt
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: +
> /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o: unresolved symbol NS8390_init
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: +
> /lib/modules/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o: unresolved symbol
> register_netdev_R1a0543c6
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: insmod exited with status 1
> Mar  3 08:28:34 annapuna cardmgr[96]: bind 'pcnet_cs' to socket 0 failed:
> No such device
> 
> 
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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-03-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

Firstly, dmesg should show a lot of the kernel messages that
 scrolled off to fast. Secondly; it is risky installing another
 instance of the same kernel version on top of the forst one,
 especially the modules part.

My advice: before installing the new kernel (assuming 2.0.29)
 # mv /lib/modules/2.0.29  /lib/modules/2.0.29.old
  
  
  

In other words, move the old modules directory out of the
 way. 
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Re: Problem

1998-03-03 Thread Bob Clark
I think the kernel must reside in a partition below cylinder
1024.  The LILO manual (/usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz)
provides a detailed description.

--Bob

> Javier Leyba wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm trying to install a Linux version 2.0.29 on my PC with
> the following configuration:
> 
> Motherboard Soyo 430 TX
> Pentium 200MHz
> 32 MB RAM
> HD 2 GB Conner (Primary Master)
> HD 1 GB Seagate (Secondary Master)
> CD Sound Blaster ATAPI (Primary slave)
> 
> In the 2 GB disk I have installed Win95 and I tried to
> install Linux on the second disk (1 GB) putting LiLo in
> the first disk MBR.
> When I rebooted after installation I received the message
> "Bad CRC - System halted" at the boot time. If I install
> LiLo in the 1 sector of the second disk I receive the
> message (booting with the second disk) "LI" and LiLo hangs
> up (I suppose that LI is part of the message that LiLo
> shows at boot time).
> 
> After this, I tried to boot from a floppy, but when I go
> to the Linux partition there are so many errors and the
> system forced me to run fcsk.ext2 without -b option. When
> I run this system utility I get so many i-node errors.
> 
> I suppose that Linux have problems with 1 GB disks.
> 
> Does anyone know something about this error ?
> Could somebody help me ?
> 
> Please, reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I'm not subscribed to
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> 
> 
> Thanks in advance !
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Javier Leyba
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19980302 Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1998-03-03 Thread Johnie Ingram

  Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   $Id: prospective-packages.html,v 1.4 1998/03/03 06:18:57 johnie Exp $
   
   
   This document is intended to identify areas that need your
   contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
   often, so it supplements the regular Debian Developer documentation:
   [1]http://www.debian.org/developers_corner.html. This document
   provides the current list of packages which are either:
   
 * orphaned,
 * withdrawn from the unstable distribution,
 * maintained but its developer would like to find a new person,
 * currently being worked on to include in the distribution, and
 * good ideas -- they would be nice to have, but no one is yet
   working on them.
   
   New versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP:
   
 * [2]http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html
 * [3]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-pa
   ckages.txt
 * [4]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-pa
   ckages.html
   
   Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to the WNPP
   maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Please mention which version of this
   document your comments refer.
   
   Try to change the subject of your mail to reflect the packages you're
   talking about, it makes it easier for to sort out all "Re:
   Work-Needing and Prospective Packages" emails. A suggested subject
   line reads "WNPP: removing foopackage" or "WNPP: working on
   barpackage". Thanks.
   
 _
   
Recent Changes
   
Since version 1998/02/23

 * The vtwm, VRweb, newtonlink, and Xcopilot packages are now
   uploaded.
   
   Packages needing a new maintainer
 * The sendmail, bind, cfengine, libfcgi2, vtprint, iplogger, and
   yabasic packages are offered by Johnie Ingram ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The xfractint, fractxtra, xtron, fte, and gmod packages are
   offered by Riku Voipio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The WorldVU-Atlantis BBS package, giftool, and midiplay are no
   longer being worked on.
 * The metrox installer package is now orphaned.
   
   Packages adopted
 * The TIS firewall toolkit has been adopted by Christoph Martin
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
   
   Packages being created
 * 'Chain Reaction,' a strategy game for 2 - 4 players, is being
   worked on by Alistair Cunningham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * A urlview package is being created by Alistair Cunningham
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * Cold Project, A free Multi User Virtual Environment, is being
   worked on by Fabien Ninoles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The gpc pascal compiler, currently withdrawn, is being worked on
   by Patrick Ouellette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * A perlindex package is being created by Manoj Srivastava
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
   
   Packages someone could package
 * Pathchar, a device to measures bandwidth of remote pipes.
 * The pnmhisteq add-on that came with older versions of netpbm.
 * A free English dictionary (www.dict.org).
   
   
 _
   
   Orphaned packages
   
   An orphaned package is a package that has no current maintainer.
   Please inform the WNPP maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) via e-mail:
   
 * when you find that you need to orphan a package,
 * when you believe that the following list is incomplete, or
 * when you would like to maintain one of these packages.
   
   The following packages are orphaned:
   
   By the Debian QA Group (debian-qa@lists.debian.org):
   
 * 9wm -- An emulation of the Plan 9 window manager 8-1/2
 * bibindex -- fast lookup in BibTeX bibliography data bases
 * mcvert -- Tool to deal with specially encoded Macintosh files
   (non-free)
 * pari -- A package for number theorists (non-free)
 * paridoc -- The documentation and examples for the PARI system
   (non-free)
 * rc -- An implementation of the AT&T Plan 9 shell.
 * sam -- A plan9 derived text editor
 * ucbmpeg -- MPEG video encoder and analysis tools (non-free)
 * ucbmpeg-play -- Software-only MPEG video player (non-free)
 * xabacus -- Implementation of the classic Chinese abacus
 * xbattle -- A concurrent multi-player battle strategy game
 * xmcpustate -- Displays CPU/Swap/Memory/Network load
   
   By Andreas Jellinghaus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * The KDE Suite (contrib)
 * giflib -- shared library for GIF images (non-free)
   
   By Patrick Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * cfs -- cryptographic filesystem (non-us)
 * mailpgp (non-us)

Re: Thanks :)

1998-03-03 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> 
> > On 1 Mar 1998, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > > IIRC, you will see this header real quick if you tell pine to show all
> > > headers. Then you could use procmail to remove this header, I believe.
> > 
> > How do you get pine to show all headers? I can NEVER get it to work...
> 
> Did you see my post a while ago?
> 
> :0:
> * ^X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> |formail -I Resent-cc >>Deb-user
> 

Uh huh... that wasnt my question, but I have since installed procmail as a
result of that thread. I guess I have another question, the smail
configuration (transports) that procmail suggests, anybody had problems
with it?? (this one:)

local:  return_path, local, from, driver=pipe; user=root,
cmd="/usr/bin/procmail -d $($user$)"

and again, this rule for procmail, (above) where does this Resent-cc thing
come in, and why does it need to be removed?


   Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: Thanks :)

1998-03-03 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Bill Leach wrote:

> Pine is clearly one of the better documented programs in the world of
> computing.  If you press the '?' key from almost anywhere other than
> when in 'compose' then pine gives you help.
> 
> As Remco mentioned the 'h' command is the one that you want to toggle
> between 'all headers' and 'normal headers'.  However, in all of the
> recent distributions of pine that I have seen recently, this command is
> disabled by default.  So to enable 'toggling header display', from the
> main menu type:
> 's', then 'c', scroll down a couple of screenfulls until you see:
> '[ ] enable-full-header-cmd', with that entry highlighted, press 'x'.
> Then press 'e' answer the 'save/cancle' question.
> 
> When any of the entries is highlighted, pressing '?' will give you a
> help explanation.
> 

Yup... got it, thanks... I just never saw that option, Or I guess it
didn't occur to me what it was


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Re: Thanks :)

1998-03-03 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, M.C. Bezemer wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> 
> > On 1 Mar 1998, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > > IIRC, you will see this header real quick if you tell pine to show all
> > > headers. Then you could use procmail to remove this header, I believe.
> > 
> > How do you get pine to show all headers? I can NEVER get it to work...
> > 
> 
> switch it on in main menu/setup/config/enable-full-header-cmd
> and toggle it with 'h' in the message text.
> 

Thanks that got it

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I need help

1998-03-03 Thread Ivan & Ines Rojas
Hi there,
I just finish installing and setting my linux box, which wasn't a easy job
for a windows user :-) and then I decided to use PPP.
I install the module accordingly with the PPP-HOWTO but I'm missing the
ppp-on and ppp-off files.

I have no idea if I did something wrong, eventhough I didn't do much either.

But any ways, my question is: how can I put these files in my system? can I
just create them from the scratch using emacs or any editor? if that's so,
where can I get the file templates?

Please help me, I really want to try linux connected to internet, I've been
trying 4 months to setup this machine and right now I just can logon, mess
around and type "shutdown -r now". I'm starting to feel a little frustrated
:-(

Thanks a lot.

Ivan


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newbie ppp install question...

1998-03-03 Thread King Alfor
Hi,

   I downloaded the base install, and that seemed to work fine after intsalling 
it.  I also bought a book "The Debian Linus User's Guide", and I followed the 
install like it said.  I can log in as root, and dselect starts properly.  Now, 
I am supposed to go a second v-console, and configure ppp.  I entered in a 
script using ae, according to what the book said, and my modem lights blink on 
and off as if they're being tested, but then nothing happens.  I went back to 
set up the system again, but now the lights don't even blink on the modem...  
First, let me tell you my hardware...
TI Travelmate 4000 dx/2 50
8 MB RAM
mouse
intel 144/144e faxmodem (external)

Now, here's the scripts the book gave me...
/etc/ppp/options

debug
/dev/ttySN(I'm using 0 for my serial port, so I use /dev/ttyS0)
38400
modem
crtscts
lock
connect /etc/ppp/ppp-connect
asyncmap 0
defaultroute

--

/etc/ppp/ppp-connect

#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/chat -v -t 60 -f /etc/ppp/ppp-chat



/etc/ppp/ppp-chat

ABORT "BUSY"
ABORT "NO CARRIER"
""  AT&F\r
OK  AT&D2&C1\r
OK  ATD555-\r   (I'm using my providers number, of course)
ogin: LoginName\r
sword: password\r

Now, I have entered in all the correct settings for the network in 
installation(dns, ip address, netmask, nameserver)

Now, I went back to reinstall ppp thinking I did it wrong, and it said it had a 
few dependencies, which I then loaded/installed(serial.o and something else...) 
 After that(installing serial and the other one), the modem lights don't even 
blink like they did originally.  It appears to not be detecting the modem.  
I've tried other ttySx numbers, and none of those work either.  I'm sure the 0 
is the correct one.  In the book, it doesn't really say how to set up modems, 
just that in the driver part of install, the modem drivers should be configured 
here.  How do I do that?  I also notice that I have written down(I don't 
remember where I found it) "for ppp create config entries in 
/etc/init.d/network"  What does this mean, and how do I do it?  My debian book 
isn't really helping me.  Is there a good linux book I should get to help me 
learn the system?  When I run ifconfig, I just get info for lo, not for ppp0... 
 Perhaps ppp isn't staying connected?  I read something about that also... 
certain modems don't let ppp load long enough or something to that effect?

One last thing...  I ran Dos and Windows on the laptop before, and the system 
ran hot after a couple hours.  Just touching the bottom of the notebook, the 
heat was pretty incredible.  After running linux(at least the base system, 
looking through the directories, editing files, etc...) for about 8 hours, the 
system wasn't much warmer than it's turned off temperature!  That's a good 
thing, but does anyone know why it didn't heat up like it did when I was using 
DOS?  It's quite odd, and I couldn't believe my eyes(or hands...)  Anyways, any 
help anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated.  I don't have a CD-ROM 
drive, so I need to download the files off the net, that's why I really need to 
learn how to set up pppd... Of course, I still want to surf on my linux system 
regardless of downloading more files.  Also, I want to run xfree86, and I only 
have 8RAM, but I've set up a 40 MB Swap File... Would that allow xwindows to 
run decently on my system, or is it more complex than that?  How much disk 
space does xwindows take up.  I've only got a 200 MB Hard drive with a 160 MB 
hda0 partition, and the swap partition.  Can I comfortably fit xwin on it, and 
still have room for say, netscape navigator, and other files?  OK, I will 
honestly shut up this time.  Thanks for your time and help.

Peace,
-dave


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Q: New (hamm) afterstep info

1998-03-03 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi --

just wondering: is it me or is there no info on the Net on the changes that
were incorporated into the afterstep version 1.4*? I found the European mirror
that carries the tarball, but no info on what the differences are between the
1.0 and 1.4 . Any pointers would be welcome..

TIA

DamirN


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Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-03-03 Thread john
Bob Hilliard writes:
> It should be possible to make any other MUA put a proper From: field in
> the mail they send to smail.

That isn't the problem.  It is the MAIL FROM address in the smtp
transaction that causes difficulty.  BrightNet refuses my mail if this
address is not in their domain (even though they know my ip!).
'visible_name=win.bright.net' works, but smail insists on prefixing this
with $user to generate the address.  I'd like to make smail use jghasler
instead of $user.

> I had difficulty for a long time getting the return_path_field correct.

So did I, until I got a doamin name.  Now I just have to smuggle my mail
past BrightNet.  Others are not so fortunate, however.
-- 
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Re: wierd ppp/pon bug?

1998-03-03 Thread john
Britton writes:
> An odd thing happens when I have been connected for many (many) hours,
> generally anywhere from 6 to 12 or so.
> ...
> This has happened twice now.  I suspect a bug somewhere in ppp on the pon
> script, or possibly in the kernel.

Possibly related:  Back when I was using ppp as a poor-man's LAN I
observed that after a while, pppd lost it's environment.
-- 
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Re: Unidentified subject!

1998-03-03 Thread Bill Leach
Well on my hamm system they ARE the same file (hard link):

bash-2.01$ ls -li /sbin/mke2fs
  19716 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root  root 17116 Jan 29 12:56 /sbin/mke2fs
bash-2.01$ ls -li /sbin/mkfs.ext2
  19716 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root  root 17116 Jan 29 12:56 /sbin/mkfs.ext2



Bob Hilliard wrote:
> 
>  I have assumed that mkfs.ext2 and mke2fs were links to the same
> file.  Apparently they are not:
> 
> bob:vc-3:bob>ls -il /sbin/mkfs.ext2
>   86256 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root17116 Jan  7 21:10 
> /sbin/mkfs.ext2*
> bob:vc-3:bob>ls -il /sbin/mke2fs
>   86255 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root17116 Jan  7 21:10 /sbin/mke2fs*
> 
>  I believe they are the same file, and should have been installed
> as links, either hard or symbolic.  Is this a bug against e2fsprogs?
> The mkfs.ext2 man page _is_ a symlink to the mke2fs man page.

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