Re: mgetty counting rings

1998-05-08 Thread Bill Mitchell


On Sat, 9 May 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:

> On Thu, 7 May 1998, David Wright wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 7 May 1998, Remco van de Meent wrote:
> > 
> > > Is there a way to have mgetty (or something else) counting the number of
> > > RING's it receives on the modem line? I want it to write the results with 
> > > a
> > > timestamp in a logfile, if possible.

> > Or is it the precise number of rings that's important to you?
> > I'm not convinced that the number of rings I hear in the earpiece
> > precisely matches what's being "heard" and logged at the other end.
> 
> In New Zealand, the system is thus:
> 
> One end  : RING  RING  RING  RING  RING  RING
> Other end:  RING  RING  RING  RING  RING  RING
> 
> So that the same number of rings is not always heard at both ends. It is
> never more than one either side though.

Generally, the piece of apparatus which generates rings to be sent
to the phone of the called party (usually about 90VAC at about 20HZ,
interrupted in some pattern which varies from country to country, as I
recall) is completely independent from the piece of apparatus which
generates supervisory tones to be sent to the phone of the calling
party.  The `ringback' supervisory tone which is intended to reassure
the calling party that the called phone is ringing has no direct
connection with, and is not in sync with the ringing of the called
party's phone.  It could well be:

Called:RINGRINGRINGRINGRING
Calling: RING  RING  RING  RING  RING  RING



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Getting mail via POP3 (Filtering to correct user?)

1998-05-08 Thread Adam Edwards
Hi,  
  Bo system. Tweaked 2.0.30 Kernel.  Got Diald dialing on d and sendmail
sending.  The problem I'm having is with fetchmail (I think)  I've run
fetchmail from the command line and it has no problem finding my pop server
but the mail addressed to wolfatpandora.org doesn't get interpreted as
being for wolfatlocalhost so it just goes back out onto the Net instead of
being sent local to the user wolf.  Question would be...Is it an alias I
need to configure?  An Option I have to configure in
fetchmail([EMAIL PROTECTED]@localhost)?  Or something I'm just not
getting at all?

TIA,
Adam
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Re: Connecting to a different LAN

1998-05-08 Thread Ian Lynagh
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Patrick Ouellette
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>IMHO the best way to handle moving machines between
>networks is to have a DHCP server on the lans and let
>the machine use a DHCP client to get the necessary
>network information.  It takes some work to set up
>the DHCP server, but the client is a plug in and
>go package (at least it was in hamm).

It is not possible to run a DHCP server on either LAN  :-(

Any other suggestions?

How does Win'95 manage to automagically cope, BTW?

TIA
Ian
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elf-x11r6lib

1998-05-08 Thread Chris Betz
I have come across a number of programs requiring elf-x116lib however I
cannot find it anywhere. Can anyone suggest where to look?

Thanks,

Chris


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Re: ISDN

1998-05-08 Thread Timothy C. Phan
Hi Ian,

  Please do explain what is the router and what the advantage
  and disadvantage of the modem and router in term of cost,
  performance, setup/configuration, etc.


Ian Keith Setford wrote:
> 
> Yo-
> 
> >   I'm think to change my phone to ISDN.  I'd like to know if
> >   PPP/IP masquerade setup for the Linux box would be the same
> >   for ISDN.
> Will you be using an ISDN "modem" or a router?  Most routers will do
> address translation negating the need for IP masquearading.
> 
> -Ian
> 
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Re: libc6 2.0.7 is not installing...

1998-05-08 Thread Oliver Elphick
"Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella" wrote:
  >
  >After I installed libc6 2.0.7pre1, the libc6 found by ldconfig is
  >still the old one. Why?
...
  >Setting up libc6 (2.0.7pre1-4) ...
  >
  >nr# ldconfig -v | egrep libc
...
  >libc.so.6 => libc-2.0.6.so

This is OK.  do dpkg -L libc6 for a list of the package contents:
...
/lib/libc.so.6
...

I suppose that 2.0.7pre1-4 means that this is a pre-release to 2.0.7, so it's
not actually 2.0.7 yet.

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Re: printing postscript with HP 670 C

1998-05-08 Thread Wojciech Marek Zabolotny


On Fri, 8 May 1998, Jesus Ruiz de Infante wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> I have a Hewlett Packard Desk Jet 670 C printer, and I haven't been able
> to configure ghostscript version 4.0 to print with it black and white
> papers. Well, actually it prints ok but the top margin gets  reduced to
> zero.  Printing in color works ok with cdeskjet or dj-500c
> ghostscript filters. So the question is:
> 
> Is it possible to print with HP 670C using the black cartidge and
> ghostscript ?? 
> 

I'm using HP 670C with ghostscript 5.10 under debian bo (1.3.r6), without
any problems.
This is my printcap definition of this printer:

dj-postscript:\
   :lp=/dev/lp1:sh:\
   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/dj-postscript:\
   :if=/var/spool/lpd/filter-dj:\
   :mx#0:

This is the contents of my '/var/spool/lpd/filter-dj' file

#!/bin/sh
gs -q -sPAPERSIZE=a4 @cdj550.upp \
-sOutputFile=- -

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Re: sudo no do

1998-05-08 Thread Jack Kern
On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 02:32:41PM -0400, Shaleh wrote:
> 1. hamm is not kernel dependent.  I have used 2.0.29-34 on it.

Thanks.

> 2. make sure /etc/sudoers is ok (i.e. read sudo's man page)

/etc/sudoers and /etc/hosts are unchanged from bo to hamm but the new
"sudo" did not accept the "hostname" (as in my lower-case output of the
hostname command):

jkern   ludd=   

A "Host_Alias" spec is required to be in upper-case as "man sudoers"
confirmed.  Nevertheless, I changed "ludd" to "localhost" (in
lower-case) with no "Host_Alias" spec and it also worked:

jkern   localhost= 


Thanks again.


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Re: E(nlightenment)

1998-05-08 Thread Shaleh
E right now looks in /usr/local/enlightenment/themes for themes.  There
is no easy way to allow user mods w/o keeping copies in ~/.  This can
lead to a good deal of hd usage.  E is very hard to make use the menus
program.  Other little things.  .14 will use a global and user config. 
Menus will be rather easy to implement.  I have not seen it yet though. 
It may need some work.

Greg Vence wrote:
> 
> Shaleh wrote:
> >
> > The debs on E.org are WAY WAY WAY out of date.  and do odd things.  E
> > .14 is out the 28th of this month.  I will have a package up as soon
> > after that as possible.  If you can not wait I suppose I could make a
> > temporary package that is NOT an official policy following package.
> > However E is not that hard to compile -- it compiles almost out of the
> > box for me (I remove a few of its -l flags).
> >
> 
> Does this mean that E will be (more) Debian compliant?
> 
> Also, are .13 Themes compatable with .14?
> 
> Thanx -- Greg.
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Re: ISDN

1998-05-08 Thread Greg Vence
Timothy C. Phan wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   I'm think to change my phone to ISDN.  I'd like to know if
>   PPP/IP masquerade setup for the Linux box would be the same
>   for ISDN.
> 
There would be some tweekings.  However, it should run pretty much the
same with externals being easier here.

Also, in the USA, currently only SpellCaster supports Linux on internal
cards.  The M$ drivers that come with it suck.  I'm not running Linux on
that box, yet...

L8r -- Greg.
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Re: ISDN

1998-05-08 Thread Ian Keith Setford
Yo-

>   I'm think to change my phone to ISDN.  I'd like to know if
>   PPP/IP masquerade setup for the Linux box would be the same
>   for ISDN. 
Will you be using an ISDN "modem" or a router?  Most routers will do
address translation negating the need for IP masquearading.

-Ian

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Re: Books or Debian wrong? and other stuff

1998-05-08 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 02:05:21PM -0500, Pete Harlan wrote:
> > Kermit is full of bugs, and hamm does not have a current version.
> 
> Kermit is easy to download, compile and install, and works well.
> Ctrl-\ is the escape character, but you have to follow it with another
> character to cause anything to happen.  For example, Ctrl-\ C will get
> you back to the kermit prompt, and Ctrl-\ ? will give you a list of
> other escaped commands.

I think some of the issues I've had with kermit are libc6-related,
because libc5 versions always worked well for me.  Among other problems,
I've found it impossible to exit from kermit on occasion.  I have to
put it in the background and kill it.  :)

Thanks

Jeff


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Re: Books or Debian wrong? and other stuff

1998-05-08 Thread Pete Harlan
> > And as long as I am here, I have noticed that the escape charactor in 
> > kermit does not work ^\.  Neither does there seem to be anyway to exit 
> > dosemu other than killing the process.
> 
> Kermit is full of bugs, and hamm does not have a current version.

Kermit is easy to download, compile and install, and works well.
Ctrl-\ is the escape character, but you have to follow it with another
character to cause anything to happen.  For example, Ctrl-\ C will get
you back to the kermit prompt, and Ctrl-\ ? will give you a list of
other escaped commands.

--Pete, who has downloaded, compiled and installed A LOT of things by
hand, thanks to using Debian's prehistoric "stable" 1.3.  I've got so
much stuff in /usr/local now, my computer tipped over...  "Debian?
That's like Slackware, only they never come out with a new CD." ;)


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Re: E(nlightenment)

1998-05-08 Thread Greg Vence
Shaleh wrote:
> 
> The debs on E.org are WAY WAY WAY out of date.  and do odd things.  E
> .14 is out the 28th of this month.  I will have a package up as soon
> after that as possible.  If you can not wait I suppose I could make a
> temporary package that is NOT an official policy following package.
> However E is not that hard to compile -- it compiles almost out of the
> box for me (I remove a few of its -l flags).
> 

Does this mean that E will be (more) Debian compliant?  

Also, are .13 Themes compatable with .14?

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ISDN

1998-05-08 Thread Timothy C. Phan
Hi,

  I'm think to change my phone to ISDN.  I'd like to know if
  PPP/IP masquerade setup for the Linux box would be the same
  for ISDN. 

  Thanks!
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My kernel is lost and can't find his map!

1998-05-08 Thread Matthew D. Myers
What does it mean when at boot up you get a message about not able to find
map file?




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Re: Connecting to a different LAN

1998-05-08 Thread Patrick Ouellette
IMHO the best way to handle moving machines between
networks is to have a DHCP server on the lans and let
the machine use a DHCP client to get the necessary
network information.  It takes some work to set up
the DHCP server, but the client is a plug in and
go package (at least it was in hamm).

Pat

On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 01:38:57PM +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote:
> 
> Once I install Debian I hope to set my laptop up so that the network
> card has IP 192.168.37.mumble, mask 255.255.255.0. It will also connect
> to the 'net via the modem.
> 
> However, if I take it to a friends LAN which uses IPs 1.0.x.y then will
> I need to change anything? What's the best way of doing this?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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libc6 2.0.7 is not installing...

1998-05-08 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

After I installed libc6 2.0.7pre1, the libc6 found by ldconfig is
still the old one. Why?

nr# dpkg -i dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/base/libc6_2.0.7pre1-4.deb 
(Reading database ... 27209 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libc6 2.0.7pre1-4 (using .../base/libc6_2.0.7pre1-4.deb) 
...
Unpacking replacement libc6 ...
Setting up libc6 (2.0.7pre1-4) ...

nr# ldconfig -v | egrep libc
/usr/lib/libc5-compat/neXtaw:
/usr/lib/libc5-compat:
libcompface.so.1 => libcompface.so.1.0.0
/lib/libc5-compat:
libcompface.so.1 => libcompface.so.1.0.0
libcrack.so.2 => libcrack.so.2.7
libcrypt.so.1 => libcrypt-2.0.6.so
libcom_err.so.2 => libcom_err.so.2.0
libc.so.5 => libc.so.5.4.38
libc.so.6 => libc-2.0.6.so

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Re: sudo no do

1998-05-08 Thread Shaleh
1. hamm is not kernel dependant.  I have used 2.0.29-34 on it.
2. make sure /etc/sudoers is ok (i.e. read sudo's man page)

Jack Kern wrote:
> 
> I upgraded from bo to hamm with little difficulty thanks to the
> autoup.sh script and the testimonials herein as to the systems readiness
> for users.  Thanks again.
> 
> Now, sudo won't let the sudoers do.  I thought there was a file to
> delete somewhere when this happened but I don't know how to find it.
> 
> I am using kernel 2.0.30.  I didn't see any comments about what kernels
> would be required with the change to hamm.  Is it necessary to upgrade
> the kernel?
> 
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sudo no do

1998-05-08 Thread Jack Kern
I upgraded from bo to hamm with little difficulty thanks to the
autoup.sh script and the testimonials herein as to the systems readiness
for users.  Thanks again.

Now, sudo won't let the sudoers do.  I thought there was a file to
delete somewhere when this happened but I don't know how to find it.

I am using kernel 2.0.30.  I didn't see any comments about what kernels
would be required with the change to hamm.  Is it necessary to upgrade
the kernel?

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Re: E(nlightenment)

1998-05-08 Thread Shaleh
The debs on E.org are WAY WAY WAY out of date.  and do odd things.  E
.14 is out the 28th of this month.  I will have a package up as soon
after that as possible.  If you can not wait I suppose I could make a
temporary package that is NOT an official policy following package. 
However E is not that hard to compile -- it compiles almost out of the
box for me (I remove a few of its -l flags).

Rick wrote:
> 
> >E works fine on hamm and w/ a little help bo.  It requires numerous
> >graphic libs.  Some of which bo has older versions of.  I am the E
> >maintainer for Debian.  A package will appear when .14 comes out (I have
> >posted imlib packages already).  .13 breaks most of Debian's policy.
> >There is a E mailing list and a channel on efnet devoted to it -- #E.
> >Any specific questions to E send there or to the mailing list for E.
> >Lots of great people.  Debian specific stuff I would be glad to help.
> 
> being very new to all of this, what of the deb packages do i need to
> download form the Enligh. ftp site, and err, what do i do with them when i
> have them?
> 
> Rick

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Re: Books or Debian wrong? and other stuff

1998-05-08 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 01:07:44PM -0400, Thomas J. Malloy wrote:
> When I, an linux and unix novice, find that commands I am entering are not
> yielding the results I expect how do I know if this failure is caused by a
> program bug, an error in the book or man page, my error or something else?
> For example on page 104 of "Learning the Bash Shell" O'reilly there is the
> following command
>  vi $(grep -l 'command substitution' ch*)
> 
>  According to the text should load into the vi editor a file that is a list
> of the files in the PWD that begin with "ch" which contain the string  
> "command substition".  The man page for grep would seem to confirm this
> However when I typed
>  vi $(grep -l 'linux' *.txt) 
> it loaded all the documents into vi not a list of documents.  Is  the book 
> wrong?

The book is wrong.  Debian's behavior is correct.  You'd have to save the
list of files _to_ a file before vi would be able to read it as a list:

grep -l linux *.txt > tmpfile
vi tmpfile

Instead, what you're doing is feeding the output of the grep command to
the command line.  Try this for clarification:

echo $(grep -l linux *.txt)

Or this:

echo `grep -l linux *.txt`

> And as long as I am here, I have noticed that the escape charactor in 
> kermit does not work ^\.  Neither does there seem to be anyway to exit 
> dosemu other than killing the process.

Kermit is full of bugs, and hamm does not have a current version.

You can exit dosemu by running the "exitemu" program.

Jeff


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Connecting to a different LAN

1998-05-08 Thread Ian Lynagh

Once I install Debian I hope to set my laptop up so that the network
card has IP 192.168.37.mumble, mask 255.255.255.0. It will also connect
to the 'net via the modem.

However, if I take it to a friends LAN which uses IPs 1.0.x.y then will
I need to change anything? What's the best way of doing this?

Thanks in advance
Ian
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Books or Debian wrong? and other stuff

1998-05-08 Thread Thomas J. Malloy
When I, an linux and unix novice, find that commands I am entering are not
yielding the results I expect how do I know if this failure is caused by a
program bug, an error in the book or man page, my error or something else?
For example on page 104 of "Learning the Bash Shell" O'reilly there is the
following command
 vi $(grep -l 'command substitution' ch*)

 According to the text should load into the vi editor a file that is a list
of the files in the PWD that begin with "ch" which contain the string  
"command substition".  The man page for grep would seem to confirm this
However when I typed
 vi $(grep -l 'linux' *.txt) 
it loaded all the documents into vi not a list of documents.  Is  the book 
wrong?

And as long as I am here, I have noticed that the escape charactor in 
kermit does not work ^\.  Neither does there seem to be anyway to exit 
dosemu other than killing the process.

Finally, if any Debian users would be interested in working through some
books together, sort of in an informal study group, please let me know and
I will set something up. 

As always thank you all for any help

Tom




 


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Re: mgetty counting rings

1998-05-08 Thread shaul
> Is there a way to have mgetty (or something else) counting the number of
> RING's it receives on the modem line? I want it to write the results with a
> timestamp in a logfile, if possible.
> 
I think it is done by default (unless you have changed considerbly the config 
files)

$ grep -A2 RING /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS1.log.0
05/07 22:24:04 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
05/07 22:24:04 yS1  waiting for ``RING''
05/07 22:24:14 yS1  timeout in chat script, waiting for `RING'
05/07 22:24:14 # phone stopped ringing (rings=1)

(That one rang once before I answered manualy)


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printing postscript with HP 670 C

1998-05-08 Thread Jesus Ruiz de Infante
Hello, 

I have a Hewlett Packard Desk Jet 670 C printer, and I haven't been able
to configure ghostscript version 4.0 to print with it black and white
papers. Well, actually it prints ok but the top margin gets  reduced to
zero.  Printing in color works ok with cdeskjet or dj-500c
ghostscript filters. So the question is:

Is it possible to print with HP 670C using the black cartidge and
ghostscript ?? 

Thaks
-Jesus Ruiz de Infante
ETSII Valladolid Spain


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Re: Debian 1.31

1998-05-08 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 9 May 1998, Rick wrote:
> 
> With a RH instalation, it gives you the option of writing LILO to the
> partition that is holding linux (in my case hda6) and then useing the IBM
> boot manager (the one that comes with Partition magik 3) i can select OS at
> boot.
> 
> Unfortunatly the IBM boot manager thingy requires LILO to be installed on
> the linux partition you are going to boot from.
> 
> as yet i have not managed to achive this with debian.

Here is what I have, which works fine with Boot Manager. 

boot=/dev/hda6
root=/dev/hda6
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only

> 
> So i recommend loadln, easy safe and convenatly handy when you need to
> escape the M$ propaganda machine :)

This also works, but requires booting to DOS before loadlin can be run.
I normally use Boot Manager (with Linux as the default), but have batch
files in my Win95 and DOS 6.2 partitions so I can easily use loadlin to
get back to Linux, including an icon on the Win95 screen to call up the
batch file (I need to change it to the penguin one of these days).

Bob


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Re: New tetex (0.9*) question

1998-05-08 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
"Damir J. Naden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> just curios: why is tetex package so much bigger (in installed size) than the
> 0.4* version? Are there that many new features?
> I use Lyx under hamm system and wonder if there are any advantages of
> installing the 0.9 version at this point?
> 
>From Thomas Essers README-file:

  News in release 0.9:
  - hyperlink-aware versions of xdvi / dvips
  - etex (version 1.1) and pdftex (version 0.11)
  - bluesky cm type1 fonts (just ``dvips -Pcmz ...'' or ``dvips -Pcm ...''
if the cm fonts are known to your Postscript interpreter)
  - some array sizes grow automatically, some are run-time configurable in
texmf.cnf
  - each texmf tree can have its own ls-R file
  - updated packages (incomplete): LaTeX2e <1997/06/01>, Catalogue, 
amslatex, de-tex-faq, fancyhdr, floatflt, fontname, german, graphics,
koma-script, mfnfss, modes.mf, natbib, psnfss, pstricks, seminar,
tools, ulem, xypic
  - some new packages (incomplete): ccfonts, hyperref, booktabs, 
colortbl, comma, exam, overpic, sidecap
  - texinfo-3.11

Maybe the most place take the etex- and omega-files (newer variants of TeX,
one time in the future thought to replace it); note also the bluesky-fonts,
which are PostScript-type1-versions of Knuths Computer Modern.

But I don't think that LyX can get any advantages of all this new stuff in its
present state -- besides the updated LaTeX2e of course.

Greetings,
joachim


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Re: Debian install an 'borrowed' PC for trial

1998-05-08 Thread Kevin Buhr
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>
>   Now my current problem, This PC doesn't have a CD, My
> boss won't let me connect this system to the NET( we use WindowsNT servers,
> no one knows how to use Linux/Unix around here) and I only have the Base
> installation. I need a way to download various packages with an NT machine
> to floppy so I can load them into the new Linux box.

First off, you can just grab "*.deb" package files off the most
convenient FTP site.  Once you get them onto the Linux system, it's a
matter of running:

dpkg -i name-of-file.deb

Of course, if the package depends on another package you haven't
installed, then "dpkg" will complain bitterly, and you'll have some
more downloading to do first.

One of the first packages you'll want to grab is "mtools" (from the
"otherosfs" section).  This is because, before you have "mtools",
reading files off a DOS floppy involves:

1.  Mounting the floppy using:

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy

   (or, possibly, "mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy", but I'm not sure
   if Windows NT puts VFAT filesystems on floppies or not.)

2.  Copying the files out of the "/floppy" directory.

3.  Unmounting the floppy using:

umount /floppy

After you get "mtools", you can use commands like:

mdir
mcopy a:whatever.dev .
mdel a:whatever.dev

without going through the mount/umount process.

As an alternative to using "dpkg" package-by-package, the "friendly"
front-end to "dpkg", namely "dselect", provides a way to install
packages from, in its words, "a pile of floppies".  The idea is to
take the "Packages" file from:

ftp.debian.org:/pub/debian/dists/hamm/main/binary-i386/

and how ever many "*.deb" files you think you want from the
subdirectories, copy them, en masse, to a bunch of floppies (with the
"Packages" file on the first one), and run "dselect".  Use the
"Access" menu option to tell "dselect" that you are, indeed, going to
install from a pile of floppies, and away you go...

The "Packages" file is useful in its own right.  It's human-readable
and will tell you what each package contains and what other packages
it depends on (and what packages those depend on, and so on).

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Re: Problem with ppp-2.3.3-5 and authentication

1998-05-08 Thread Bill Leach
Sorry about the delay in responding James, we had a 'significant'
storm roll through yesterday...

I don't know the mechanism for how the authentication actually
takes place for PAP but it looks to me as though you are either
asking for or giving the 'null string' as a password for any
user at .

The format for the entries is (AFAIK):
   []

>From the ppp manpage, it looks as though there are several ways
that figuring out the correct hostname for the remote system 
could get fouled up.  Also,  could either be from the
'user' option or just be the hostname of your system.

I don't think that there is any interaction between PAP or
CHAP and your account password (as in /etc/passwd).

On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 04:17:11PM +1100, James Whitwell wrote:
> On 6/5/98 1:18 AM Bill Leach wrote:
> >My question would be, if Mr. Whitwell's machine is using PAP, are the
> >entries in the ppp/pap-secrets file correct?  AFAIK for the PAP
> >authentication to work (I don't use PAP but have used CHAP), the
> >Username, password, and IP address (or address range) have to match.
> 
> [Mr. Whitwell speaks]
> 
> I think they're OK.  In "/etc/ppp/pap-secrets" I have:
> 
> * ""
> 
> which the installation script put in, and which I haven't changed 
> ( is, of course, the name of the machine being dialed-up).

Do you mean 'dialing in' to this machine or being 'dialed-up' BY this
machine?  (I originally thought the former, also supported by the
following lines)

> I basically haven't changed anything from the default mgetty and ppp 
> install.
> 
> In "/etc/ppp/options", I uncommented an "ms-dns" line and added our DNS.
> 
> I copied "/etc/options.ttyXX" to "/etc/ppp/options.ttyS1" and changed it 
> to read ":".  Both of these are in our DNS.
> 
> In "/etc/mgetty/login.config" I have:
> 
> /AutoPPP/ - a_ppp /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login
> 
> which is unchanged from the installation (I don't seem to be having any 
> problems with mgetty in any case).
> 
> The client machines (that dial the Linux box) are a mix of Mac (running 
> OT/PPP 1.0.1) and Windows 95 machines.  Both have worked before with the 
> previous ppp (I think it was 2.2.0-f-).
> 
> 
> Can anyone see anything that I've missed.  I'd be thankful for any 
> further comments anyone can make.

The only thing that I can see that appears wrong to me is that there
actually is no secret in your pap-secrets file.

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smail without relay

1998-05-08 Thread Stef Hoesli Wiederwald
I use Debian 1.3.1

I want my smail not to relay. So I have to add the line
smtp_remote_allow = 127.0.0.1:
to the config file. This works only from smail_3.2.0.101 on, which
is a hamm package. So I need to upgrade libc5_5.4.33-3 to at least
libc5_5.4.33-7 first, in order to be able to upgrade to
libc6_2.0.7pre1-4. I already upgraded to ldso_1.9.8-1.

Is there anything else, I have to be aware of, when I upgrade to
libc6?
I read the Debian libc5 to libc6 mini HOWTO, but I also got the
following answer from USENET:

> But beware, cause it could force you to do a pretty big upgrade
> to hamm. If you still want to do the upgrade join debian-user and ask
> there.

So I wanted to be sure.

Stef
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WMF to Gif or Jpg

1998-05-08 Thread fealvar

Does anyone know about a filter to convert WMF (Windows meta file) to Gif
o Jpg, or to a format suported by NetPbm or ImageMagick??



Thanks.

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Telefono: 691.30.56

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There is a cat somewhere in my computer

1998-05-08 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Hi,
   I wonder if anyone knows what exactly is the matter with my linux box.
I have been running Linux now for well gone three years starting with a 
4mb DX2-66 and graduated to a 128mb DX4-133 (in textmode).

Of recent, though I have lost two mice within two months. At first, I
thought the reason was that the first one simply expired (three year plus
cheap jobbie), so I went out and bought a digital. It stopped working
within three weeks!!! So I bought /another/ logitec (all serial devices)
and to my dismay realised that the mouse wouldn't work on the computer at
all!! ... Some where with all this the port must have expired 

I have asked all the local gees. here about it and no-one has a clue as to
why this would have happened ... Is there anyone out there who has /any/
idea as to what happened and most importantly why??

Yours thankingly

Jonathan

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Dual eth card, floppy boot

1998-05-08 Thread Mike Patterson

I boot a system from floppy into Debian 1.3.1. How do I set it up to recognize
my second NE2100 card? 

In my other system, I boot off the hard drive, so I put the following line in
my lilo.conf:

append="ether=5,0x320,eth0 ether=9,0x300,eth1"

But since I'm booting off floppy on this system, there is no LILO. Help!

--Mike


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Re: changing a users group

1998-05-08 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:

> >Which is just the same as manually editing them. Is there a good
> >reason to use vipw, instead of just "vi /etc/passwd"?
> 
> only if something goes wrong :)  I forget exactly what it is, but vipw does 
> some checking before saving the file, preventing some types of dumb mistakes.
> 
> Also, if you have shadow passwords, directly editing /etc/passwd can give 
> strange results.  iirc, i actually had different passwords in single user 
> mode 
> and multiuser after that . . . . it took days and some help to figure out 
> what 
> was going on.

Would pwck and grpck have helped.  I always use these after editing
any of the user/group files.

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Re: changing a users group

1998-05-08 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
>> > How do you change a users group assignments without manually editing the
>> > passwd and group  and also shadowed files.
>> use vipw for editting your password file and vigr for the group file.

>Which is just the same as manually editing them. Is there a good
>reason to use vipw, instead of just "vi /etc/passwd"?

only if something goes wrong :)  I forget exactly what it is, but vipw does 
some checking before saving the file, preventing some types of dumb mistakes.

Also, if you have shadow passwords, directly editing /etc/passwd can give 
strange results.  iirc, i actually had different passwords in single user mode 
and multiuser after that . . . . it took days and some help to figure out what 
was going on.

rick

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Re: ftp-server without having installed one?

1998-05-08 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On 7 May 1998, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:

> It's surpring because I never installed any ftp-server on my system. The
> only servers I installed internally are boa (webserver) and leafnode (news).
> Can anybody explain this message? I would be interested to know how to 
> disable 
> this ftp-server -- I only have a dialup ppp-connection to the net five-six
> times a week.

Ftp is probably considered as common as telnet, making it a default
(although I think it may be split off since we have things like wu-ftp).
Simply comment out the appropriate line in /etc/inetd.conf and restart
inetd (killall -HUP inetd).

Brandon

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RE: mgetty counting rings

1998-05-08 Thread Richardson,Anthony

Here in the US, the ringing signal (what the receiver hears) and the   
ringback
signal (what the caller hears) are completely separate signals.  The   
signals
are put on the line by the local central office serving each phone.  They   
are
completely independent signals and not necessarily in sync.  It's quite   
common
for one more (or one fewer) rings to be heard by the receiver than the   
caller.
I would suspect that this is what is going on in NZ too.

Tony Richardson

 -Original Message-
From: Michael Beattie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 8:36 AM
To: David Wright
Cc: Debian User List
Subject: Re: mgetty counting rings

On Thu, 7 May 1998, David Wright wrote:

> On Thu, 7 May 1998, Remco van de Meent wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to have mgetty (or something else) counting the number   
of
> > RING's it receives on the modem line? I want it to write the results   
with
a
> > timestamp in a logfile, if possible.
>
> Every ring of my phone is timestamped in /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS1.log   
thus:
>
> 05/07 09:17:38 yS1  waiting...
> 05/07 09:46:19 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:19 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:22 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:25 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:28 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:31 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:34 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:37 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:40 yS1  send: ATA[0d]
>
> Or is it the precise number of rings that's important to you?
> I'm not convinced that the number of rings I hear in the earpiece
> precisely matches what's being "heard" and logged at the other end.


In New Zealand, the system is thus:

One end  : RING  RING  RING  RING  RING  RING
Other end:  RING  RING  RING  RING  RING  RING

So that the same number of rings is not always heard at both ends. It is
never more than one either side though.

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Re: Supressing duplicate email

1998-05-08 Thread Bill Leach
There are several.  Be aware that there is a condition where you can
loose mail using the 'supress duplicate email' scripts (mentioned in
the man pages for procmail IIRC).

On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 11:21:23AM -0700, Mike Schmitz wrote:
> Does anyone have a procmail recipe to supress duplicate email? (Useful when
> subscribed to more than one Debian list).

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Re: Install problem - kernel problems with Adaptec 2740 EISA card

1998-05-08 Thread Bill Leach
I had essentially the same symptoms with an Adaptec 2840 (I believe
that is the correct model number).  I did try a kernel compiled with
only the AIC7XXX SCSI support and had no change in symptom.

I tried the 1.3.1 disks and the hamm disks (the aic7xxx only kernel
disk was tried only with the hamm installation attempt).  I did this
only over a weekend as the machine was needed for a Wind-blows task
and was unable to pursue the problem any further.  I did try several
different hd's ranging from a very old Micropolis, only slightly
newer CDC, a reasonably new quantum, to a brand new Maxtor.  Again,
with no change in symptoms.

Since Bob's experience is almost identical to mine, I see some
'comfort' in the idea that there probably IS a solution besides
replacing the scsi host adapter!


On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 02:12:13PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Thu, 7 May 1998, Bob McGowan wrote:
> 
[snip]
> : Initially, the kernel would find the 2740 cards, download "sequencer
> : code", reset the bus (3 times, once for each card), do a few other
> : things (qlogicisp probe and eata-dma probe) and panic with the message
> : "Encounterd spurious interrupt".  I checked the EISA config for the
> : cards and found they were set to "level" trigger on the interrupts,
> : changed this to "edge" trigger.  The kernel then reports 3 spurious
> : interrupts (1 per card, I presume), then aborts some scsi command due to
> : timeout, resets the scsi bus, then enter an endless loop timeing out and
> : resetting.  The abort message is "aborting command due to timeout: pid0,
> : scsi0, channel0, id0, lun0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00".
> 
> Have you tried a rescue disk with a kernel that has ONLY AIC7XXX SCSI
> support?  Most 2740s are pretty touchy about being probed by other
> drivers.
> 
> I haven't used my 486 VLB w/2740 for a long time (new toys) but I can
> break it out of retirement to do some testing ..
> 
> If you need a kernel compiled, let me know.
> 

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Re: changing a users group

1998-05-08 Thread Stephen Carpenter
I think vipw also performs some sanity checks...
(least that what it says)
I think that s anice thing...I would bet an extra charicter in juts the wrong 
spot

could suffciantly screw a system up
course..I only used vipw once...and I didn't change anything...
I immediatly exited the program as soon as I realized it was vi based
(as a matter of preference I hate using vi for anything)
-Steve


Joost Kooij wrote:

> On Fri, 8 May 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 08:03:51AM +0100, Joop Stakenborg wrote:
> > > Matthew D. Myers wrote:
> > > > How do you change a users group assignments without manually editing the
> > > > passwd and group  and also shadowed files.
> > > use vipw for editting your password file and vigr for the group file.
> >
> > Which is just the same as manually editing them. Is there a good
> > reason to use vipw, instead of just "vi /etc/passwd"?
>
> AFAIK vipw is supposed to lock the password file or at least perform the
> edits on a scratch copy of the original file and merge in the changes with
> the real /etc/passwd (which may have changed while you were editing) when
> you're ready.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joost
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Re: ppp, nethack problems in hamm

1998-05-08 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, 7 May 1998, Britton wrote:

> 
> Two small bugs I have noticed in hamm:
> 
> pon command only seems to work for root now, not even users who are in
> dialout group.  Is there some other group they need to be members of now?

Pass.. I use bo..
 
> nethack doesn't start up, complaining about read or write permissions on
> critical files.

I fixed this (in bo) by making the /var/lib/games/nethack directory have
group write permission.


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Re: mgetty counting rings

1998-05-08 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, 7 May 1998, David Wright wrote:

> On Thu, 7 May 1998, Remco van de Meent wrote:
> 
> > Is there a way to have mgetty (or something else) counting the number of
> > RING's it receives on the modem line? I want it to write the results with a
> > timestamp in a logfile, if possible.
> 
> Every ring of my phone is timestamped in /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS1.log thus:
> 
> 05/07 09:17:38 yS1  waiting...
> 05/07 09:46:19 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:19 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:22 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:25 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:28 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:31 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:34 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:37 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:40 yS1  send: ATA[0d]
> 
> Or is it the precise number of rings that's important to you?
> I'm not convinced that the number of rings I hear in the earpiece
> precisely matches what's being "heard" and logged at the other end.


In New Zealand, the system is thus:

One end  : RING  RING  RING  RING  RING  RING
Other end:  RING  RING  RING  RING  RING  RING

So that the same number of rings is not always heard at both ends. It is
never more than one either side though.

   Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: Tom's Unix on a Floppy

1998-05-08 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, 7 May 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:

> On Thu, 7 May 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> 
> : On Wed, 6 May 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
> : 
> : > Um lets see
> : > th efilename is tomsrtbt-1.1.4.38.tar.gz
> : > I have found that the most usefull tool in the web is AltaVista search 
> engine ...
> : > put in the filename you are looking for and...
> 
> Totally off topic, but if you know the filename, or something close to
> it, you can use FTP Search at http://ftpsearch.ntnu.no/
> 
> Hope someone finds this useful :)

Bookmarked :)

hehe Totally back on this topic..

I got this particular utility, and tried to install/create it, but I
cannot get it to work, the problem revolves around /dev/fd0H1722 not
being a valid device etc... even after being created... I have a resonably
new motherboard, and a very new floppy drive. Any ideas? I can read ye
old microsloth DMF disks.


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Re: E(nlightenment)

1998-05-08 Thread Rick


>E works fine on hamm and w/ a little help bo.  It requires numerous
>graphic libs.  Some of which bo has older versions of.  I am the E
>maintainer for Debian.  A package will appear when .14 comes out (I have
>posted imlib packages already).  .13 breaks most of Debian's policy.
>There is a E mailing list and a channel on efnet devoted to it -- #E.
>Any specific questions to E send there or to the mailing list for E.
>Lots of great people.  Debian specific stuff I would be glad to help.


being very new to all of this, what of the deb packages do i need to
download form the Enligh. ftp site, and err, what do i do with them when i
have them?

Rick


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Re: Debian 1.31

1998-05-08 Thread Rick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; debian-user@lists.debian.org

Date: 08 May 1998 01:01
Subject: Re: Debian 1.31


>On  7 May, Jeff Noxon wrote:
>> On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 04:42:23PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote:
>>> > I want to have the ability to dual boot with Debian and Windows 95 ?
(I
>>> > know with Windows NT and Windows 95 this is possible). Will such thing
>>> > be possible Debian & Windows 95?
>>
>>> Absolutely.  Lots of us do this all the time.  Very easy to configure
and
>>> use.


With a RH instalation, it gives you the option of writing LILO to the
partition that is holding linux (in my case hda6) and then useing the IBM
boot manager (the one that comes with Partition magik 3) i can select OS at
boot.

Unfortunatly the IBM boot manager thingy requires LILO to be installed on
the linux partition you are going to boot from.

as yet i have not managed to achive this with debian.

So i recommend loadln, easy safe and convenatly handy when you need to
escape the M$ propaganda machine :)

Rick



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LaTeX Font

1998-05-08 Thread Daniel Doro Ferrante


Hi All !

I know that this is not the main purpose of this list, but I got a
font from CTAN and I cannot manage to make it work. I installed it
(properly, I think) and used it as a commom font, but with no success...
Any hins ? What am I missing here ?

Thanks in advance.


Daniel.
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Re: changing a users group

1998-05-08 Thread Butch Kemper
At 04:57 -0500 on 5/8/98, Joost Kooij wrote:
> On Fri, 8 May 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 08:03:51AM +0100, Joop Stakenborg wrote:
> > > Matthew D. Myers wrote:
> > > > How do you change a users group assignments without manually
>editing the
> > > > passwd and group  and also shadowed files.
> > > use vipw for editting your password file and vigr for the group file.
> >
> > Which is just the same as manually editing them. Is there a good
> > reason to use vipw, instead of just "vi /etc/passwd"?
>
> AFAIK vipw is supposed to lock the password file or at least perform the
> edits on a scratch copy of the original file and merge in the changes with
> the real /etc/passwd (which may have changed while you were editing) when
> you're ready.

Did I miss something?  The command "usermod -g groupname userid" is what I
use to change the group assignment for a user.

I don't worry about the groups file because it is static so I use vi on it.

Butch

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xlock key events

1998-05-08 Thread Benjamin Cant
Hi,

does anyone know how to get xlock to pass the keypress to 
the calling process when not in lock mode? i.e. when xlock starts 
over a login prompt the first character pressed that stops xlock also 
gets passd to the login?

Is there any other x screen savers that might do this?

Cheers, Ben.

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Re: cleaning up bad configuration

1998-05-08 Thread Peter Iannarelli
The creative juices that flow while under the influence always
look really bad the next day. :-)

You are interested in the following:

/etc/ppp  <--- directory
/etc/ppp.chatscript
/etc/ppp.options_out

Also; if in your state you thought it would be a good time to
recompile your kernel, make sure you have select ppp from
the network options list

Peter

-Original Message-
From: Thomas J. Malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 6:02 AM
Subject: cleaning up bad configuration


>Lets suppose I go out to pub one night and come reeling home after 8 or 9
>pints of stout.  Now when I get home I decide this would be fine time to
>make some configuration changes on my system. ( in this particular case it
>was changing the ppp settings for my new isp) So I sit down, login as root
>and start blissfully banging away on the key board.  When I awaken the
>next day the application I had configured doesn't work correctly at all.
>( What a suprise!) Not with the old isp and not with the new. I have tried
>on and off for several weeks to fix this, but have had no success. Since I
>am not really sure what I changed, I would like to remove all files that
>relate to ppp and then reinstall the whole thing from scratch. Deselect
>seems to leave the old config files.  How would I remove everything using
>dselect, or dpkg, or If I have to do it by hand what files should I remove?
>Thanks for any help and I hope we have all learned an important lesson
>from my sorry tale.
>
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Re: cleaning up bad configuration

1998-05-08 Thread Joost Kooij
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Thomas J. Malloy wrote:

> Lets suppose I go out to pub one night and come reeling home after 8 or 9
> pints of stout.  Now when I get home I decide this would be fine time to
> make some configuration changes on my system. ( in this particular case it
> was changing the ppp settings for my new isp) So I sit down, login as root
> and start blissfully banging away on the key board.  When I awaken the
> next day the application I had configured doesn't work correctly at all. 
> ( What a suprise!) Not with the old isp and not with the new. I have tried
> on and off for several weeks to fix this, but have had no success. Since I
> am not really sure what I changed, I would like to remove all files that
> relate to ppp and then reinstall the whole thing from scratch. Deselect
> seems to leave the old config files.  How would I remove everything using
> dselect, or dpkg, or If I have to do it by hand what files should I remove? 
> Thanks for any help and I hope we have all learned an important lesson
> from my sorry tale. 

dpkg --purge ppp

Purging removes all conffiles and configuration files (whatever the
difference may be.)

Cheers,


Joost 


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cleaning up bad configuration

1998-05-08 Thread Thomas J. Malloy
Lets suppose I go out to pub one night and come reeling home after 8 or 9
pints of stout.  Now when I get home I decide this would be fine time to
make some configuration changes on my system. ( in this particular case it
was changing the ppp settings for my new isp) So I sit down, login as root
and start blissfully banging away on the key board.  When I awaken the
next day the application I had configured doesn't work correctly at all. 
( What a suprise!) Not with the old isp and not with the new. I have tried
on and off for several weeks to fix this, but have had no success. Since I
am not really sure what I changed, I would like to remove all files that
relate to ppp and then reinstall the whole thing from scratch. Deselect
seems to leave the old config files.  How would I remove everything using
dselect, or dpkg, or If I have to do it by hand what files should I remove? 
Thanks for any help and I hope we have all learned an important lesson
from my sorry tale. 


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Re: changing a users group

1998-05-08 Thread Joost Kooij
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 08:03:51AM +0100, Joop Stakenborg wrote:
> > Matthew D. Myers wrote:
> > > How do you change a users group assignments without manually editing the
> > > passwd and group  and also shadowed files.
> > use vipw for editting your password file and vigr for the group file.
> 
> Which is just the same as manually editing them. Is there a good
> reason to use vipw, instead of just "vi /etc/passwd"?

AFAIK vipw is supposed to lock the password file or at least perform the
edits on a scratch copy of the original file and merge in the changes with
the real /etc/passwd (which may have changed while you were editing) when
you're ready.

Cheers,


Joost



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Re: changing a users group

1998-05-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 08:03:51AM +0100, Joop Stakenborg wrote:
> Matthew D. Myers wrote:
> > How do you change a users group assignments without manually editing the
> > passwd and group  and also shadowed files.
> use vipw for editting your password file and vigr for the group file.

Which is just the same as manually editing them. Is there a good
reason to use vipw, instead of just "vi /etc/passwd"?


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Re: Supressing duplicate email

1998-05-08 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Thu, 7 May 1998, Petra, Kevin J Poorman wrote:

 : > ## ELIMINATES DUPLICATE MESSAGES WITH SAME MESSAGE ID
 : > 
 : > :0 Wh: msgid.lock
 : > | $FORMAILZ -D 32768 $PMDIR/cache.msgid
 : 
 : Where does one place this script?

Have a look in procmail's manual page ('man 1 procmail').

 -Remco


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Re: Help! Windows95? Anyone?

1998-05-08 Thread C.J.LAWSON
> Thi sshould erase the defected MBR, I'm not sure what'd happen to the
> filesystems. 
Nothing

(I'm sure that it won't work if you have more then one
> partition.)
why not?

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Re: mgetty counting rings

1998-05-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
David Wright hat gesagt: // David Wright wrote:

> On Thu, 7 May 1998, Remco van de Meent wrote:
> 
> > Is there a way to have mgetty (or something else) counting the number of
> > RING's it receives on the modem line? I want it to write the results with a
> > timestamp in a logfile, if possible.
> 
> Every ring of my phone is timestamped in /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS1.log thus:
> 
> 05/07 09:17:38 yS1  waiting...
> 05/07 09:46:19 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **

> 05/07 09:46:37 yS1  waiting for ``RING'' ** found **
> 05/07 09:46:40 yS1  send: ATA[0d]
> 
> Or is it the precise number of rings that's important to you?
> I'm not convinced that the number of rings I hear in the earpiece
> precisely matches what's being "heard" and logged at the other end.

I often have lines like this in /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS0.log:

04/09 17:34:32 # phone stopped ringing (rings=2)

I think you should rais the debug level in 
/etc/mgetty/mgetty.config

I have debug 8


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Re: changing a users group

1998-05-08 Thread Joop Stakenborg


Matthew D. Myers wrote:

> How do you change a users group assignments without manually editing the
> passwd and group  and also shadowed files.
>

use vipw for editting your password file and vigr for the group file.

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Re: ftp-server without having installed one?

1998-05-08 Thread Joop Stakenborg
Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:

> Hi,
>
> playing around with netcat, I tried out the example fom its README,
> the command 'echo QUIT | nc -v -w 5 target 20-250 500-600 5990-7000',
> which should "inform you about a target's various well-known TCP servers",
> and I took as my 'target' 'localhost' (completely stand-alone PC).
>
> Surprisingly there showed up among other things even an ftp-server
> (output: "wabe.in-bonn.de [127.0.0.1] 21 (ftp) open
> 220 wabe.in-bonn.de FTP server (Version 6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.10) ready.")
>

The netbase package has a ftp server which will be installed on your 
system.Don't
worry, because it does not take up memory, it is started from inetd
on request. If you don't want this, just comment it out in /etc/inetd.conf.


> It's surpring because I never installed any ftp-server on my system. The
> only servers I installed internally are boa (webserver) and leafnode (news).
> Can anybody explain this message? I would be interested to know how to disable
> this ftp-server -- I only have a dialup ppp-connection to the net five-six
> times a week.
>
> The other strange thing was an unknown service on port 6000:
> "wabe.in-bonn.de [127.0.0.1] 6000 (?) open"
> What does this one mean?
>

Don't know about this, sorry.

> Thanks in advance
> joachim

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Debian install an 'borrowed' PC for trial

1998-05-08 Thread John_Gay
After reading several of the digests I was getting nervous of the install
disks I had made using rawrite2 in a DOS window on a WindowsNT( Yes, I CAN
hear you all cringe), I 'borrowed' an old PC here at work, put in a
pentium, 16M of Ram, and loaded Debian Linux. Surprise, surprise,
surprise... It worked first time from the first set of disks!!!(I made 4
copies, just in case) Now my current problem, This PC doesn't have a CD, My
boss won't let me connect this system to the NET( we use WindowsNT servers,
no one knows how to use Linux/Unix around here) and I only have the Base
installation. I need a way to download various packages with an NT machine
to floppy so I can load them into the new Linux box. I often have a few
hours here and there I can spend copying files. I need gcc, one of the good
word processors( similar to WordPerfect or M$ Word) and xcopilot to start.
Any assistance in this madness will be greatly appreciated so I can get
started learning Linux/Unix. I still want to set-up my home PC with Linux
and WindowsNT when I buy it ;->. Thanks for all your help. The set-up I
want for that system is; NT bootloader to select from WindowsNT or Linux
with a separate partition for Windows and several partitions for Linux;
Root ( just enough for a good package), Swap (128M), and any separate
partitions that would be recommended to protect my system from any bad
programmes I may write ;->.

Cheers,

 John Gay



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Problems with cfingerd

1998-05-08 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello friends,
==

I'm not sure whether you've got my last message about problems with
talk...it has been solved properly (I just forgot to insert a line
describing my machine and its IP address on PPP interface into
/etc/hosts ;-)

But now, I have another problem - I have cfingerd installed, but when I
try to finger somebody on that machine, it always tells me that that
user has the messages off although he hasn't!!!

I tried to experiment with it, but I didn't manage do get any further.
Everything seems that cfingerd is simply ignoring the setting of mesg
and still returns [MSG-N].

Is it just misconfiguration or something serious?

Thanks in forward.

All the very best,
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Re: make-kpkg error

1998-05-08 Thread Shaleh
Oliver Elphick wrote:
> The last line does not terminate with \, so the `if' construct is not
> terminated.  All lines before the final `fi' need to end with \.


Sure enough.  I edited the rules file and all is well.  Does a bug report need
to be filed here or is the maintainer aware of this?


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Re: make-kpkg error

1998-05-08 Thread Oliver Elphick
Shaleh wrote:
  >Can someone point me to the problem here??
  >if test -f debian/official -a -f debian/README.Debian ; then \
  >   install -p-o root -g root -m 644 debian/README.Debian \
  >debian/tmp-source/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/README.Debian

The last line does not terminate with \, so the `if' construct is not
terminated.  All lines before the final `fi' need to end with \.


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filesystem layout

1998-05-08 Thread Greg Norris
  Hi all!  I've got a quick question about the arrangement of different
filesystems, for all you smart types out there.

  When I originally installed Debian on my system, I created a number of
seperate filesystems in order to keep things logically seperated.  One
of them is mounted as /usr/local (it seemed like a good idea at the
time).  However, I've recently discovered that it was perhaps not the
best choice, as I need a program which is installed in /usr/local/sbin,
prior to any non-root filesystems being mounted.  I know that I could
move it into /sbin or /usr/sbin to get around that problem, but I'm
trying to keep things relatively clean so that future maintenance
doesn't get too intimidating.  For this reason, I've decided to try to
correct that mistake, rather than just working around it.

  Here's what I'm thinking of doing.  Remount the existing filesystem as
/some_fs_name, move it's /sbin component back to /usr/local/sbin, then
create symlinks under /usr/local to point all of the other directories
to their new locations.  Are there any problems with this approach that I
need to be aware of?  And if so, what would be a better solution?

Thanx!


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Re: hamm

1998-05-08 Thread vanco
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On Wed, 6 May 1998, James R. Van Zandt wrote:

> 
> >> I maintain a hamm mirror at work.  According to my records, the
> >> traffic to keep hamm up to date amounts to about 20 MB/day.
> 
> >I'm a bit of a newbie with respect to Debian, and I've recently susbcribed
> >to some mailing lists. I'm still reading a lot of FAQ material, but since
> >I saw this thread I couldn't resist to ask: what's the recommended way
> >(program) to keep an updated unstable distribution for a home user?
> 
> I don't know of any easy way.
> 

There is an easy way. I do it at home.

My personal traffic amounts to about 40 megs a week. (that's a one
night update) This can be accomplished easily with apt.

If you want it done automatically, here is how you do it:

1) get apt. project/experimental on ftp.debian.org:/pub/debian
2) set up apt's resources. I have included a file sent to me by
culus (apt maintainer) that lists all available http resources.
3) create a cron job to get online and run "apt-get update;
apt-get dist-upgrade -m" (nightly or weekly -- your choice).
4) every time cron runs apt will automatically get every file you
need and fix everything in place, without needing any input from you.

Personally, I just use the easy method: su root and do it myself.

setting up apt's resources: I have attatched the master source list from a
while back -- it should still be good enough. however, remember to remove
the stable entry -- apt will not update stable correctly. Remeber that
having more than two actual servers listed in the sources list... is
overkill.

And btw -- this should have been on debian-user. I'm forwarding it there
now.

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non-free
deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian frozen main contrib 
non-free
deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian-non-US 
stable/binary-i386/
deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian-non-US 
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Network problme

1998-05-08 Thread King Lee
Hello, 

I have problem with my network.

On bootup, I get 

eth0: enabling 10TP port 
SIOCADDRT net is unreacheable

I can run telnet on the to a machine on the same local net,
but can't get out of the local net. 

The /etc/resolve.conf and /etc/host file are correct.  I do not understand
what should be in the /etc/gateways file.  I have Red Hat on my
system, and the it works fine for Red Hat; with Red Hat I get
a message  that they are enabling an AUI connection or port.


Can anyone tell me (1) here the netmask is stored and gateway is stored
so I can check those values. (2) what can the problem be.
I think those values are set correctly.

Thanks in advance

King  Lee
ultrix6.cs.csubak.edu




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Re: Problem with ppp-2.3.3-5 and authentication

1998-05-08 Thread Kevin Squire

If you've already received a response, forgive me--I only receive the
digest version of the mailing list.

> On 6/5/98 1:18 AM Bill Leach wrote:  
> My question would be, if Mr. Whitwell's machine is using PAP, are the
> entries in the ppp/pap-secrets file correct?  AFAIK for the PAP
> authentication to work (I don't use PAP but have used CHAP), the
> Username, password, and IP address (or address range) have to match. 
> 
> [Mr. Whitwell speaks]
> 
> I think they're OK.  In "/etc/ppp/pap-secrets" I have:
> 
> * ""

The required structure of the pap-secrets file changed slightly in version
2.3.x.  You must now add an extra "*" to the end of the line above, to
allow any ip addresses.  Buried within the pppd man page:

AUTHENTICATION
...
   ...Any following words on
   the same line are taken to be  a  list  of  acceptable  IP
   addresses  for  that client.  If there are only 3 words on
   the line, or if  the  first  word  is  "-",  then  all  IP
   addresses  are disallowed.  To allow any address, use "*".

I was burned by the same problem when setting up a ppp server for our lab.

-
Kevin Squire
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Research Student
Nakajima Research Laboratory
Tokyo Institute of Technology


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Re: 'w' doesn't show X session users

1998-05-08 Thread Steve Hsieh

It's not just xterm, but also rxvt. So unless they were both changed
simultaneously, I'd tend to suspect it's a library or something else
that's shared which has changed...



On Thu, 7 May 1998, Norbert Veber wrote:

> On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 12:33:21AM -0400, Steve Hsieh wrote:
> > 
> > Subject says it all.  The user shows up on 'last', but not on 'w'.  This
> > is a recent problem that started roughly around when the latest xserver*
> > debs were placed in hamm..
> > 
> > Any one know what the problem is?
> 
> I'm not sure if this is right, but I assume this is what happened:
> This goes back to a previous bug in xterm where it would update the wtmp
> when you run it, but not remove you from it once you quit the xterm
> (something about it giving up root privs too soon), so I assume that too
> many people complained, and wtmp updating was dissabled untill this bug is
> fixed..
> 


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make-kpkg error

1998-05-08 Thread Shaleh
Can someone point me to the problem here??

(cd debian/tmp-source/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34; \
rm -f stamp-building stamp-build stamp-configure
stamp-source stamp-image stamp-headers stamp-src stamp-diff stamp-doc
stamp-buildpackage stamp-libc-kheaders)
(cd debian/tmp-source/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include; rm -f asm; \
ln -s asm-i386 asm)
if test -f debian/official -a -f debian/README.Debian ; then \
   install -p-o root -g root -m 644 debian/README.Debian \
debian/tmp-source/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/README.Debian
/bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
make: *** [stamp-source] Error 2

I am trying as you can see to build 2.0.34pre12.  I did make-kpkg --revision
gestalt.1.9 binary.  It chugged for a few moments then, this.  It appears to be
a bug in the make-kpkg script.  Won't swear to it though.


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Re: Diskless Debian, Shared /usr, etc...

1998-05-08 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 03:10:57PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 09:13:58PM -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote:
> 
> > Thanks -- that was an excellent idea.  I had to massage nfsroot into
> > working with libc6, but it was a great starting point.  My client is
> > now taking up 2100K -- not bad.
> 
> Could you plubish the patched nfsroot somewhere? It would be useful for
> quite a few ppl.

That's opening a can of worms.  :-)

I haven't fixed it, but I did use it to figure out what I needed to make
everything work.  In my opinion, the package is far more complicated
than it needs to be -- at least for most people.

If you want to use it (or fix it), the main thing to look at are the
different libraries.  Hamm uses libc6, while nfsroot still tries to
use libc5.

Jeff


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Re: Debian 1.31

1998-05-08 Thread servis
On  7 May, Jeff Noxon wrote:
> On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 04:42:23PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote:
>> > I want to have the ability to dual boot with Debian and Windows 95 ? (I
>> > know with Windows NT and Windows 95 this is possible). Will such thing
>> > be possible Debian & Windows 95?
> 
>> Absolutely.  Lots of us do this all the time.  Very easy to configure and
>> use.
> 
> It might be helpful to explain how to do it.  I know the default
> installation will only let you boot off the primary drive, as LILO is
> installed into the partition and not the boot sector.  It's always easy
> to boot from the boot disk made during installation, but booting Linux
> off the secondary drive?  Is there a graceful and free way to do this
> without installing LILO in the primary drive's boot sector?
> 
> Jeff

Sure use loadlin instead.  It never touches the boot sector.  You don't
have to wory about Win95/98 erasing the LILO boot sector info.  Just
copy your kernel image to some directory on the Win95 partition and run
loadlin on it.  

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