Disculpas por mensajes tontos
Disculpad por los absurdos mensajes que habreis recibido, no se como se me han podido escapar. Estoy configurando y probando sendmail, fetchmail y procmail, y estos mensajes eran pruebas que me estaba enviando a mí mismo. Yo juraría que en la dirección destinataria en ningun momento he puesto la lista-debian, pero claro ¿quien me va a creer? En fin, reitero las disculpas. Un saludo.
problemas con XF86Config
Hola, estoy teniendo problemas para configurar/instalar el X Window System. Las características de la tarjeta de vídeo son (comprobado con SuperProbe): First video: Super-VGA Chipset: S3 Trio64V+ (Port Probed) Memory: 2048 Kbytes RAMDAC: Generic 8-bit pseudocolor DAC He instalado con dselect los servidores de X S3 y S3V, y hecho la configuración con xf86config Al terminar de configurar (varias intentonas ya), ejecuto el startx (o xinit) y me da el siguiente error (al principio una serie de líneas que no consigo leer hasta: (--) S3V: Mode 400x300 needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ (--) S3V: PCI: unknown (please report), ID 0x8811 rev 54, linear FB @ 0xe000 (--) S3V: Unknown S3 chipset: chip_id = 0x8811 rev. 54 *** None of the configured devices were detected *** Fatal server error: no screens found When reporting a problem... _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno=111 giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. ¿Qué estoy haciendo mal, o qué no estoy haciendo? Gracias por adelantado. Desesperadamente, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: duda sobre el comando clock
J.Parera wrote: ... echo -e Sincronitzar el rellotje amb SLUG ... rdate slug.ctv.es.es clock -w el problema es que el comando clock no existe. En la Debian 1.3.1 si funcionaba sin ningún problema. En que paquete se encuentra? O es que ha cambiado de nombre dicha orden? ... Efectivamente cambió de nombre, ahora es hwclock, aunque si hacés man clock te aparece la página del hwclock. A propósito, yo uso una orden similar para la sincronización de relojes, y hace poco me rompí la cabeza toda una mañana en un sistema con RedHat, porque el default de rdate es mostrar la hora y no setearla, al contrario que en Debian. Solución inmediata: usar el calificador -s y no confiar en el default. Inquietud de mediano plazo: quién me garantiza que un comando funciona de la misma forma en distintas versiones de Linux? -- Saludos, O__ Enzo.,/ ()=\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-944-45208, 54-944-45100 Fax: 54-944-45299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.edu.ar/darie/darie.htm
RE: Uso de fuentes TrueType con xfstt e impresión con Ghost script
Ahora viene la duda, para instalar las fuentes (*.ttf) que debo hacer? Meter las fuentes en /var/ttfonts o ejecutar xfstt --sync nombrefuente.ttf? Yo las tengo copiadas en /usr/share/fonts/truetype o algo asi. lo copias y $ /etc/init.d/xfstt reload Estoy en lo cierto o falta alguna operación? Ni idea. Prueba y nos cuentas :-) Si, tambien tengo una linea añadida (no quitar ninguan de las que hay) FontPath unix/:7101 en XF86Config, y con esto he conseguido usar arial en el netscape. Aunque tengo entendido que segun la version de xfstt puede ser FontPath unix/:otro, e incluso el directorio donde residen las ttf, tambien es otro, habria que remitirse a la documentacion. Angel Vicente Perez Dpto. Informática KNIPPING ESPAÑA S.A. Tfno. +34-1-6070-311 Fax +34-1-6070-331 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: problemas con XF86Config
Las características de la tarjeta de vídeo son (comprobado con SuperProbe): First video: Super-VGA Chipset: S3 Trio64V+ (Port Probed) Memory: 2048 Kbytes RAMDAC: Generic 8-bit pseudocolor DAC He instalado con dselect los servidores de X S3 y S3V, y hecho la configuración con xf86config Al terminar de configurar (varias intentonas ya), ejecuto el startx (o xinit) y me da el siguiente error (al principio una serie de líneas que no consigo leer hasta: (--) S3V: Mode 400x300 needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ (--) S3V: PCI: unknown (please report), ID 0x8811 rev 54, linear FB @ 0xe000 (--) S3V: Unknown S3 chipset: chip_id = 0x8811 rev. 54 *** None of the configured devices were detected *** Fatal server error: no screens found Yo creo que estas utlizando el servidor incorrecto, tengo instalada una tarjeta igual, y el servidor que utilizo es el xserver-s3, el s3v debe ser para las S3 Virge. Yo desinstalaria el xserver-s3v, y volveria a reconfigurar; existe una opcion S3 Trio64V+ (Generic) en la lista de tarjetas de la configuracion (creo que es la 110 o por ahi). Angel Vicente Perez Dpto. Informática KNIPPING ESPAÑA S.A. Tfno. +34-1-6070-311 Fax +34-1-6070-331 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gracias
Querría agradecer a todos la ayuda prestada. Ya tengo en marcha la conexión Inet y todo lo demás. Gracias a todos. -- Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets
Problema con smail en hamm
Aupa gente, me he instalado la Debian 2.0 y tengo un problema con el smail, no me encola los mensajes y cuando estoy offline el pine me contesta con un mensaje de error (creo que me dice que no encuentra el host). Eso antes no me pasaba, era un paquete posterior al que venía en bo, aunque no tan nuevo como el que viene en la 2.0, y funcionaba correctamente :? He mirado toda la documentación que he podido pero no ha habido forma... De todas formas creo que me pasaré a sendmail, pero bueno, quisiera saber si a alguien más le ocurre y cómo lo ha arreglado. En online funciona correctamente, eso sí. agur, txakar e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problemas de conexión con el servidor
Estoy intentando conectarme a internet con Linux, y he seguido los pasos que ponen en la revista Programacin Actual. Al ejecutar pon hace la marcacin normal, mirando el fichero '/var/log/ppp.log' llega a decir que la conexin se ha establecido y ppp0 --> /dev/ttyS1, la siguiente linia dice: remote message: could not determine remote IP address. He revisado las direcciones, los ficheros y no se donde puede estar el error, me podis orientar? Gracias de antemano, David
Re: Inclusión de Debian 2.0 en Linux Actual 9/98
Siento responder a este mail tarde, pero he estado de vacaciones algo mas de una semana y, no, en Galicia no tenia conexion a la Red. Respecto a la inclusion de los CDs en LA os voy a dar mi punto de vista como colaborador de Linux Actual y Debian Developer, al mismo tiempo intentare ser realista. La distribucion completa de Debian GNU/Linux son 3 CD's= main+fuentes+contrib/fuentes, y la revista generalmente saca un CD con software relacionado con los articulos, y, a poder ser, software para el usuario de Linux en general. Este CD puede tener desde 500 Mbs, hasta tan pocos como 35 Mbs. En conversaciones con la Redaccion de LA yo les comente la posibilidad de sacar Debian en CD en setiembre (mas gente tambien se ofrecio). Al final me asignaron a mi la tarea, facil, en principio, porque las imagenes de los CDs no hay mas que cogerlas, grabarlas y probarlas. El problema reside en que les comento que se deberian distribuir, como poco 2 Cds (main+fuentes), y si es posible todos. A lo cual me han puesto pegas y, aunque no tengo confirmacion 100% es posible que se incluyan los 2, pero, me ha pedido que tenga espacio para incluir el sw de los articulos en uno de los CDs' (unos 30-40 Mbs). En resumen, lo mas probable es que finalmente, la cosa se quede intermedia entre tu 1) y 2), es decir, habra 2Cd's con main+fuentes y quizas haya que hacer algun apaño para meter lo de la revista. Se que contrib tiene muchas cosas interesantes, tambien non-free y non-US pero no creo que los responsables de la revista accedan. Ellos velan por otros intereses, quieren tener a los lectores contentos pero no se pueden permitir incluir 4 Cds en una revista. Algo que, por cierto, no he visto en ningun sitio. De todas formas me gustaria hacer un sondeo de opinion entre los presentes y, si veo respuestas, lo hare tambien en otras listas de distribucion de Linux españolas. Cuanto estarias dispuesto a pagar por una revista (Linux Actual) con CUATRO Cds? - 1500? - 1995 ? - 2250 ? - otra cifra? Quizas pueda convencer a la editorial si hay mucha gente que acepta que salgan 4 CDs con un incremento en el precio, que lo va a tener que haber con tantos CDs. Un saludo a todos Javi On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 11:19:57AM +0200, Ignacio Torres Masdeu wrote: Saludos a todos: Mi punto de vista sobre el tema este es que es mejor incluir los 3 compactos de la distribución original de debian en la revista en vez de meter 2 capados y con posibles errores (el que tiene boca se equivoca, y el que tiene una grabadora de CD's suele hacerlo con mas frecuencia, hablo por experiencia propia). Paso a analizar el problema desde dos puntos de vista. 1) Me copio la distribucion de 3 discos de un amigo y compro LA con 1 cd -Pros: si hay algun error en la copia vuelvo a empezar y no tengo mas problemas que el dinero. -Contras: Los CD-R son menos tolerantes a los roces y huellas que los estampados. -Presupuesto: Compra de LA con 1 CD: 995 Compra de 3 CDR: 600 ptas Copia (en caso de no tener grabadora disponible): 200 ptas/CD=600 Con lo que tirando por lo bajo, la copia hecha por uno mismo en un soporte menos fiable se pone en 1.000 ptas lo que sumado a la revista da un total de 1.995 ptas. 2) Compro LA con 4 cd's incluyendo la distribucion completa: -Pros: Las contras de (1) ;) -Contras: Los pros de (1) ;) -Presupuesto*: No puedo saberlo, pero estoy seguro de que no supera las 1.995 ptas del caso anterior. Teniendo en cuenta la comodidad que supone no tener que hacer uno mismo las copias, creo que vale la pena. No se si estareis de acuerdo con mi razonamiento, pero ahi lo dejo. Saludos Nacho PS: alguien sabe de alguna reunion linuxera en ciernes por Madrid? =) -- Enviado con Linux (Redhat 5.0) -- Ignacio Torres Masdeu [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RV: Problemas de conexión con el servidor
Estoy intentando conectarme a internet con Linux, y he seguido los pasos que ponen en la revista Programación Actual. Al ejecutar pon hace la marcación normal, mirando el fichero '/var/log/ppp.log' llega a decir que la conexión se ha establecido y ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1, la siguiente linia dice: remote message: could not determine remote IP address. He revisado las direcciones, los ficheros y no se donde puede estar el error, ¿ me podéis orientar? En las opciones del pppd tienes que añadir noipdefault. Un saludo Mariano Egurrola [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.omniware.es/personal/mayi
Dotfiles
Buenas ¿Para qué sirven exactamente las utilidades Dotfile que vienen en la nueva Debian 2.0? Según dice es una herramienta de configuración, con la cual configurar cosas básicas y características exóticas de nuestros programas favoritos (según dice la explicación + ó - del paquete). ¿Alguien podría proporcionarnos alguna explicación más... cómo diría... contundente? Gracias por todo. -- Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets
Re: Problema con smail en hamm
On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 02:00:19PM +, CARLOS MARTINEZ.CHACARTEGUI wrote: me he instalado la Debian 2.0 y tengo un problema con el smail, no me encola los mensajes y cuando estoy offline el pine me contesta con un mensaje de error (creo que me dice que no encuentra el host). Eso antes no me pasaba, era un paquete posterior al que venía en bo, aunque no tan nuevo como el que viene en la 2.0, y funcionaba correctamente :? He mirado toda la documentación que he podido pero no ha habido forma... Lo configuras como internet site con un smart host. (dale smail-config, o smailconfig, no recuerdo ahora). Marcelo
Re: Dotfiles
On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 05:34:15PM +0200, TooManySecrets wrote: ¿Para qué sirven exactamente las utilidades Dotfile que vienen en la nueva Debian 2.0? Es un programa en Tcl/Tk que con una interface grafica pasable te muestra TODAS las opciones que tienes en un archivo de configuracion. Por eso vez que existe bash-dotfile (o algo asi). Es para configurar bash. Tambien existe procmail-dotfile, etc. Mejor lo instalas, lo usas un poco y decides si te gusta. (A mi no...) Marcelo
Re: problemas con XF86Config
On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 01:54:32AM +0200, M.G. wrote: He instalado con dselect los servidores de X S3 y S3V, y hecho la configuración con xf86config Al terminar de configurar (varias intentonas ya), ejecuto el startx (o xinit) y me da el siguiente error (al principio una serie de líneas que no consigo leer hasta: prueba con xserver_svga. Algunas S3 usan ese servidor. Marcelo
[homega@correo.com: dselect]
-- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall ---BeginMessage--- Por fin logré hacer que el lilo me preguntase qué SO quería arrancar, gracias Roberto Ruiz por tu lilo.conf Ahora, he vuelto a instalarlo todo, pero estoy teniendo problemas con el dselect. Simplemente empieza a instalar, y de repente el no lee más del cdrom, se engancha. ¿A alguien le ha pasado esto antes? Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
[SADACIA@santandersupernet.com: ¿Como guardar los niveles de volumen de la AWE al salir?]
-- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall ---BeginMessage--- Hola otra vez ;-) ¿Sabeis como puedo guardar los niveles de volumen de la AWE32 al hacer un 'halt'? Es decir, que me guarde el estado del mezclador de volumen (el chip awemix) al salir y lo restablezca al reiniciar el sistema. Es que siempre tengo que estar regulando cada vez que entro, y es una incomodidad. Seria mas comodo lo qwe propongo. Se que habia algo asi en la pagina de AWEDRIVER, pero parece que ya no esta, o no lo encuentro. Gracias por adelantado: Juan Carlos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
[SADACIA@santandersupernet.com: Re: No me arrancan los programas delibc5]
-- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall ---BeginMessage--- El lun, 17 ago 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon escribió: Ejem... que es eso de configurator.debian.org? Pues si te digo la verdad, ni idea. Resulta que envie el otro dia el mensaje por medio del Kmail, y como me dio la sensacion de que no llego, lo hice por 'mailx' en la consola. Y eso de configurator tiene que ver con lo de la consola. Pero no me preguntes que es porque no lo se ;-) Me sabrias dar una pista? Gracias y perdon si esto ocasiona alguna molestia a alguien. Juan Carlos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
[parera@teleline.es: Abilitar tecla insert en bash y fuente para la consola]
-- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall ---BeginMessage--- Hola, se puede abilitar la tecla insert en bash de forma que actue como tal? Hay alguna fuente para la consola que no de muchos problemas con los caracteres gráficos? Un saludo, J. Parera -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
[cpereac@infomail.lacaixa.es: Re: Debian 2.0 llego]
-- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall ---BeginMessage--- El Sun, Aug 16, 1998, TooManySecrets... Por cierto, ¿cómo cambio el editor por defecto del mutt? Viene el Vi, pero me gustaría dejar otro, como el Pico, Joe, o por el estilo. He leído la documentaçao adjunta, pero no he encontrado nada de nothing. Seguramente que se tratará de algún dot-file, un .muttrc o algo así, pero la variable a cambiar no sé cuala es. Mutt (yo uso la 0.88 de 1.3.1) reconoce la variable de entorno $EDITOR. Yo tengo en el /etc/profile export EDITOR='joe' y funciona, :-) Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
[SADACIA@santandersupernet.com: Re: Mailx me saca directamente del programa.]
-- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall ---BeginMessage--- Bueno, otra cosa que tengo solucionada. Simplemente me he bajado el mailx de hamm y ya esta ;-) Perdon por las molestias y gracias: Juan Carlos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
[agmartin@aq.upm.es: Re: No me arrancan los programas de libc5]
-- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall ---BeginMessage--- Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 1998 at 03:17:30PM +0200, Juan Carlos Muro wrote: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/lib:/usr/lib/:/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/local/lib No se si dira esto algo ... Bueno, a ver que ideas hay (y gracias por lo menos por pensar). Quita LD_LIBRARY_PATH. No se necesita. Aprovechando el thread un poco de información que encontré ayer. Hablando del tema de los programas libc5 que no van bien con libc6, a mí me ha ocurrido con el asWedit, un editor HTML, que también da segmentation faults al arrancar. Al hacer ldd asWedit me da que depende de las dos librerías, libc5 y libc6, lo que provoca el problema. En el caso de este programa y probablemente en el de otros la dirección de libX11 está metida de forma dura en el binario (/usr/X11R6/lib) según la página de advasoft porque está compilado con un linker antiguo. Así que depende de libc6 a través de la libX11 que encuentra ahí y de libc5 a través de todo lo demás, es decir, castañazo seguro. La solución que proponen los de advasoft es parchear el binario, con algo que puesto junto en un script sería --- #!/bin/sh mv asWedit asWedit-3.0 cat asWedit-3.0 | sed -e s:/usr/X11R6/lib/:Xusr/X11R6/lib/: \ -e s:/usr/X11R6/lib: usr/X11R6/lib: \ -e s:Xusr/X11R6/lib/:/usr/X11R6/lib/: \ asWedit chmod 755 asWedit --- Exactamente que hace se me escapa, porque no veo la diferencia en el binario entre uno y otro camino, pero el caso es que funciona y es posible que se pueda probar con éxito en otros programas antiguos libc5 de los que se tiene solo el binario y que cascan al lanzarlos en un sistema libc6 por la misma razón. De hecho yo lo he probado con otro editor html que daba el mismo problema, xhtml, cambiando los nombres en el script, y ha funcionado, aunque en este caso recomiendo mejor recompilarlo ya que con el LessTiff de la 2.0 va bien incluso los acentos. Espero que pueda ser útil para algún otro programa en las mismas condiciones Saludos, -- = Agustín Martín Domingo, Dpto. de Física, ETS Arquitectura Madrid, (U. Politécnica de Madrid) tel: +34 91-336-6536, Fax: +34 91-336-6554, email:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/welcome.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
RE: problemas con XF86Config
En efecto, el problema era que teniendo instalados S3 y S3V, cogía por defecto S3V. Ahora he desinstalado S3V y... se ejecuta el X Window System PERO... el puntero del ratón no se mueve. Tan sólo veo una ventana de xterm, y el puntero (que no puedo usarlo). Pageando (con g, no con j, de página) por los man y otros docs, lo único que he visto ha sido un comentario en el man de /X11/README.Config que dice que algo sobre problemas con el ratón, que en el 99.99% de los casos tiene que ver con el SO, no con el sistema X. En una de las primeras instalaciones, ejecuté el XF86Setup, y reconocía el ratón, pero ahora no puedo ejecutar XF86Setup, no está por ningún lado... ¿alguna idea? Si, ese configurador esta en el paquete xserver-vga16. Yo lo que hice, y hago cuando actualizo es instalar primero xserver-vga16, y despues xserver-s3. Lo del raton, alguna vez me paso, y creo recordar que era porque le establecia un tipo de raton que no correspondia. Vale, finalmente he logrado configurar y ejecutar el X Windows System. Tuve que instalar xserver_16 para usar el XF86Setup (lo que no me hace mucha gracia, preferiría haberlo hecho todo manualmente con xf86config). Gracias. Ahora me gustaría saber qué procesador de textos podría utilizar. Instalé el LyX pero no aparece en ningún menú de X. El StarOffice creo que es gratis, pero difícil de instalar; WordPerfect es caro, pero imagino que es lo mejor que hay. Creo que hay otros, Papyrus, Scriptum (uno creo que es un procesador de textos, y el otro un editor, o vice versa). También me resulta extraño que en el poco tiempo que llevo en la lista, no se haya hablado del KDE o de GNOME (el primero lo probé con SuSE hace tiempo, del segundo no sé mucho... nada). Luego está el tema de la instalación/configuración de paquetes en Linux: si no lo he entendido mal, la mayoría de programas vienen en formatos como el .deb (debian), .rpm (RedHat), .tgz (Slackware). Para instalarlos basta con el comando: dpkg -i foo.deb (en el caso de Debian) o rpm -i foo.x.rpm (en el caso de RedHat). Pero la mayoría vienen en .tgz (Slackware) y se trata de hacerlo con el comando tar (-opciones... xvfz)... ¿es esto correcto, o estoy dejando algo/mucho en el tintero? Espero que no sean demasiadas preguntas a un tiempo (por cierto, al tiempo que pregunto, también miro la documentación). Saludos, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uso de fuentes TrueType con xfstt e impresión con Ghost script
Hola, Ahora viene la duda, para instalar las fuentes (*.ttf) que debo hacer? Meter las fuentes en /var/ttfonts o ejecutar xfstt --sync nombrefuente.ttf? lo copias y Si haces xfstt --sync nombrefuente.ttf te la copia en /var/ttfonts y te añade la descripción al archivo pertienente. Por lo que debe ser lo mismo que copiar todas las fuentes allí y reiniciar. $ /etc/init.d/xfstt reload Este script no existe, el más parecido es el xfs. [~/doc]$ cd /etc/init.d/ [/etc/init.d]$ xfs reload usage: xfs [-config config_file] [-ls listen_socket] [-nodaemon] [-port tcp_port] [-user username] [/etc/init.d]$ Lo anterior es lo que sale al hacer xfs reload. Por lo que he reiniciado la máquina con lo que tendría que ser lo mismo que reiniciar el xfstt. Ahora biene una dudilla, para comprobar que las fuentes se han instalado correctamente que hago? He probado con el Gimp y con el Fontmanager del KDE pero en ninguno de los dos sitios me salen las fuentes que acabo de instalar. Con que programa puedo utilizar las fuentes ttf? Aún no he instalado ninguna suite ofimática por lo que no puedo comprobarlo desde allí. Otra cosa, me he fijado que la fuente Times New Roman no está incluida entre las ttf, de que tipo es? Como uso/instalo dicho tipo de fuentes? Un saludo, Josep Parera P.D. ¿Porqué el uso de fuentes está tan poco documentado?
RE: Uso de fuentes TrueType con xfstt e impresión con Ghost script
Hola, Si, tambien tengo una linea añadida (no quitar ninguan de las que hay) FontPath unix/:7101 en XF86Config, y con esto he conseguido usar arial en el netscape. Aunque tengo entendido que segun la version de xfstt puede ser FontPath unix/:otro, e incluso el directorio donde residen las ttf, tambien es otro, habria que remitirse a la documentacion. puedes explicarme mejor eso del unix/:? Sintaxis, uso, etc. Un saludo, J. Parera
Re: Inclusión de Debian 2.0 en Linux Actual 9/98
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:05:26 +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: Cuanto estarias dispuesto a pagar por una revista (Linux Actual) con CUATRO Cds? - 1500? - 1995 ? Este, aunque preferiria el anterior, claro ;-) - 2250 ? - otra cifra? Otra opcion es sacar dos versiones de LA como hacen los ingleses con sus versiones CD y FD Saludos David Requena e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fido: 2:343/302.2 RedBBS: 757:1102/1.2 irc-ibernet:mckennan ** TagIt/2 v1.2 ** +++ ...MENSAJE RECIBIDO LA JOLLA...
Más sobre: En el NS Communicator 4.05 an dejado de funcionarme los acentos!!!
Hola, He reinstalado el Netscape Communicator 4.05 y aún continua sin funcionarme los acentos por lo que el fallo tiene que ser debido a un archivo externo a la aplicación pero relacionado con las caracteristicas del Communicator 4.05. Hace como unos 3-5 días (no recuerdo exactamente) al arrancar la máquina me hizo un fsck por lo que debió detectar algún sector mal (algún microcorte de la red electrica?) y creo recordar que me borro (por decirlo de alguna manera) algunos sectores que detectaba como archivos invalidos o algo asi (no recuerdo lo que dijo el programa). Lo que no entiendo es, suponiendo que esté en lo cierto, que asta hace poco el Communicator no me fallase (por lo que creo que eso no es, pero hay que comprobarlo). De todas maneras, hay alguna forma de verificar que no haya sido dañado ningún archivo? Mediante el dpkg o lo que sea. Debo reinstalar algún paquete? Entiendan que volver a reinstalar la Debian 2.0 no es precisamente sencillo. (algo bueno tenía el W95, al menos se reinstalaba rápido :-D) Y suponiendo que todo lo anterior sea descabellado, por fuerza debe tratarse de un archivo de configuración que se debe haber modificado por accidente por lo que les agradecería que e diesen una lista de posibles archivos candidatos al premio y una forma de poder verificarlos (eso ya lo veo más dificil ...). En fin, saludos desde un mozillero descafeinado Josep Parera
Problemas en X-Window con tarjeta AGP
Saludos a los miembros de la lista: Mi ordenador dispone de una tarjeta gráfica Leadtek Winfast 3D S900 con 4 Mb de memoria video. Está equipada con el chip i740 de Intel y es del tipo AGP. Mi problema es que supongo que no existe soporte aún en Linux para hacerla funcionar en Debian 1.3.1 (Linux Actual 1) y ni siquiera a mano puedo configurar las X para que se comporte como una simple VGA a 16 colores y 640x480 pues sistemáticamente me genera un macro-escritorio a una resolución de 300x200 más o menos y en monocolor. ¿Podría alguien indicarme cómo solucionar este problema? Gracias de antemano. Pedro F. Pareja
Re: modprobe
hi to all, when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10 does anyone know what to do to eliminate this annoying message ? i don't know what is this module for . thanks samuele tonon
smail configuration problem
hi to all , every 20 minutes linux give me this message Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:03:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] runq runq: setgroups() failed: Operation not permitted what's that mean ? where is the problem? where can i find info on how to correctly setup smail ( i try sendmail but my system crashes so i prefer smail which seems to be easyier) thanks samuele tonon
Re: cfdisk: Fatal error: Bad Primary partition
Nope, I looked at the source and cfdisk won't show you anything about the partition table if it doesn't make sense to it. However, this perl script will (all one line, my mailer my break it up): perl -e 'open(IN,/dev/hda);sysread(IN,$buf,512);printf(boot ind: %u, start(h %d, s %d, c %d), type 0x%02x, end(h %d, s %d, c %d), lba %d, lba-len %d\n, unpack(x446LL,$buf));' This will print out your first primary partition. On my system: boot ind: 128, start(h 1, s 1, c 0), type 0x83, end(h 63, s 191, c 46), lba 63, lba-len 2253825 'boot ind' is for boot indication. It's 128 if the partition is bootable, zero otherwise. There there's your partition start, with head, sector, and cylinder, the partition type (0x83 is Linux, 0x82 is Linux Swap), the end of the partition and then the partition start sector and length in sectors (lba, lba-len, respectively). cfdisk will puke if the numbers aren't consistent (start is before end, etc.) so you can check these out yourself. To look at partitions 2, 3, and 4, change 'unpack(x446LL' to 'unpack(x446x16LL', 'unpack(x446x32LL', and 'unpack(x446x48LL', respectively. It goes without saying you have to be root to run this script. Nebu John Mathai wrote: Has anone got this error? On installing Debian 2.0 I used cfdisk to partition my 8.4Gig drive. The first time I did it, I did not like the partition sizes (after writing the partition info and initializing my root partition) and so rebooted the machine (by going into the installation option to reboot the machine) to do the install once more. However, this time, when I went to partition the drive cfdisk stated fatal error: ban primary partition. So I went to fdisk and erased the partition info (fdisk seemed to work) and ran cfdisk once more and all was fine. I installed debian and everything worked fine. Now, a few days later I went to install NT (unfortunately I have to run some NT software for school), and NT disabled the bootability of Linux. So I used a boot disk to get back to Linux, and tried running cfdisk to get the partition with linux (the primary partition) bootable, but cfdisk now complains: Fatal error: bad primary partition. Any ideas on what this error means? Is my hard drive bad? I noticed that cfdisk gives me cylinder/head/sector information on my drive that does not matchmy hard drive specs ... should I use cfdisk to change that info? Thanks for any advice! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendmail Help
Hello Everyone, I have changed my ISP recently and do not have a static IP any longer. I have tried setting up Sendmail to send and am using Fetchmail to retrieve messages. Fetchmail gets the messages Ok, but I never get the messages in my /var/spool/mail/htuttle mailbox. Here is the log message that I get after fetchmail gets the messages. Aug 18 17:51:52 user-38lcgom sendmail[1834]: RAA01832: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=nullclient, relay=mail.mindspring.com. [207.69.200.191], stat=Sent (SAA04691 Message accepted for delivery) Aug 18 17:51:54 user-38lcgom sendmail[1837]: RAA01835: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=nullclient, relay=mail.mindspring.com. [207.69.200.196], stat=Sent (SAA09795 Message accepted for delivery). But I can't figure out where the mail is going. I have set up sendmail as a transfer to the HUB, but locally, I can't see where it is going. Anyone using Sendmail with a Dialup ISP only? Thanks for any help. Mike Acklin
Re: cfdisk: Fatal error: Bad Primary partition
Ok, here's an even better script for printing all partitions. Just run it like 'showpart.pl /dev/hda'. Nebu John Mathai wrote: Has anone got this error? On installing Debian 2.0 I used cfdisk to partition my 8.4Gig drive. The first time I did it, I did not like the partition sizes (after writing the partition info and initializing my root partition) and so rebooted the machine (by going into the installation option to reboot the machine) to do the install once more. However, this time, when I went to partition the drive cfdisk stated fatal error: ban primary partition. So I went to fdisk and erased the partition info (fdisk seemed to work) and ran cfdisk once more and all was fine. I installed debian and everything worked fine. Now, a few days later I went to install NT (unfortunately I have to run some NT software for school), and NT disabled the bootability of Linux. So I used a boot disk to get back to Linux, and tried running cfdisk to get the partition with linux (the primary partition) bootable, but cfdisk now complains: Fatal error: bad primary partition. Any ideas on what this error means? Is my hard drive bad? I noticed that cfdisk gives me cylinder/head/sector information on my drive that does not matchmy hard drive specs ... should I use cfdisk to change that info? Thanks for any advice! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] showpart.pl Description: Perl program
Re: Little/Big endian discussion (was: Re: can I burn the output of mpg123 -s?)
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 08:46:20AM -0400, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: currently xfstt bombs out if it gets a connection of a differnt endianess than the system it is on...I have been meaning to fix that but maybe the PowerPC may have an easier fix... nah...ill just look into fixing it right Ouch.. use htons(), htonl(), ntohs(), ntohl() to convert; you don't have to know what endianness the machine is you're using, you rely on libc knowing and implementing those functions appropriately. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Linux security
I was having a discussion with my ISP about Linux. He said he uses Windows NT because it is much more secure than Linux. He stated that since the source code was available that it was very unsecure. He mentioned something about attaining root access by downloading /etc/passwd and de-crypting the passwords. He bases this on a source called cicia.org. He said it reflected several cases of insecurity regarding Linux. I would like to know from a more qualified source as to how to respond to this. I have been using Debian for a few months now and thoroughly enjoy it. Not only as an operating system, but for the documentation and the learning experience. Thank you for your time and attention.
Re: HELP! emufs doesn't work with FreeDos under dosemu in Debian
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 12:31:33 +0200 (EEST) Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just had to run some DO$ software on my Linux Box (exactly: the monitor for DSP56002EVM evaluation module and DSP56002 assembler). I have decided to install the dosemu. To keep my box M$-free I wanted to use the FreeDOS (included in dosemu package). And here my problem begins: I was unable to use neither emufs, nor lredir to get access to Linux filesystem. All I could see was the starting hdimage :-(. The disks mounted with emufs seemed to contain scrambled rubbish, and lredir did not mount anything at all returning the errors (0x3a, 0x3c or 0x40). When I switched the starting boot image into one containing DO$6.2 (without changing anything else in /etc/dosemu/conf) everything started to work. Has anybody managed to get emufs working with FreeDOS under dosemu? I seem to recall reading somewhere that lredir does not work with FreeDOS, or something along those lines. If you want an alternative to M$-DOS, think about Caldera's OpenDOS or DR-DOS. This is free for non-commercial use (Hence, not strictly 'free' as we debian ppl. tend to think of free...) and can be downloaded from their FTP site. Quite a nice DOS, IMHO. HTH, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | As my head fell in the basket, Network Administrator | And was everyone dancing on the casket... EmpireNET | - TBMG, Dead
Re: qmail package for debian?
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 19:02:23 -0500 the lone gunman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a qmail package for debian? I've installed it on my slackware system in the past, and would like to install it on debian. There are some source debs either in contrib or non-free (can't remember which off the top of my head). The program's author has various restrictions on distribution of binary packages, mainly because he can't guareentee that the code is pure and still secure. I wouldn't let the fact that it's source put you off. It's very easy to compile and install. The instructions are pretty detailed, and have lots of tests to ensure it's all working. I haven't had any trouble getting it working on my debian (Hamm) system (actually, my qmail predates Hamm, but upgrading to hamm didn't seem to break anything...) HTH, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | As my head fell in the basket, Network Administrator | And was everyone dancing on the casket... EmpireNET | - TBMG, Dead
Re: newest distribution?
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 06:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I'm looking for qmail-src 1.03 ... version 1.03 has been around for quite awhile... has the author released an update? 1.03 is the latest version of qmail. damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | As my head fell in the basket, Network Administrator | And was everyone dancing on the casket... EmpireNET | - TBMG, Dead
Re: OFF-TOPIC (How do you guys sort your mail?)
Hi all, It's actually really easy to sort mail according to mailing lists with qmail. The linux machine I administer is RedHat, so I like to keep track of the RedHat lists, but I don't want to actually pick them all up with pop. For eg, I subscribed to redhat-list with the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put ./Mail/redhat-list in .qmail-redhat And likewise for a few other lists. This just creates standard mbox format mailboxes which can be read by mailers such as mutt (and presumably pine). For my debain mail, I grab it all with a windoze pop email client, which filters it all (Becky), but I guess you're not really interested in any of that :) damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | As my head fell in the basket, Network Administrator | And was everyone dancing on the casket... EmpireNET | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Linux security
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Clearly, you were speaking with a Junior Level individual. Call back and ask for Second Level Support next time. :-) - - Kyle On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was having a discussion with my ISP about Linux. He said he uses Windows NT because it is much more secure than Linux. He stated that since the source code was available that it was very unsecure. He mentioned something about attaining root access by downloading /etc/passwd and de-crypting the passwords. He bases this on a source called cicia.org. He said it reflected several cases of insecurity regarding Linux. I would like to know from a more qualified source as to how to respond to this. I have been using Debian for a few months now and thoroughly enjoy it. Not only as an operating system, but for the documentation and the learning experience. Thank you for your time and attention. Kyle Amon email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix Systems Administratorphone: (203) 486-3290 Security Specialist pager: 1-800-759- PIN 1616512 IBM Global Services or [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] url: http://www.gnutec.com/kyle KeyID 1024/26DD13D9 Key fingerprint = 7D 86 D1 AE 4B E9 91 6A 4B BC B5 B4 12 F0 D3 1A GNU does not eliminate all the world's problems, only some of them. - Richard Stallman The GNU Manifesto, 1985 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAgUBNdn+RcTIuZsm3RPZAQG6dgP8DSwWUdb9TwoZ/knSpgNkIQKEBDzmfcCO VNWayTmSQeyhjD0bpAiEyo7/kwh7QYiMi+sL6WmWl48XusxJD0zHQRewZEdM4d9S 8wk07HiDanAe5+ujy8WIwEUPoMxV20A6uvJZmervMPSLTG204u527bs7glDFttik Su6k5OhNdrM= =R7uP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Libforms?
Hi, What means : ./DAP: can't load library 'libforms.so.0.88' ?? I have this file: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/X11R6/lib -- ls *forms* libforms.alibforms.so libforms.so.0.88 thanks, Phillip Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Linux security
I was having a discussion with my ISP about Linux. He said he uses Windows NT because it is much more secure than Linux. He stated that since the source code was available that it was very unsecure. He mentioned something about That is apparently a VERY wrong statement. Just because the source is out, does not make the system insecure. Open source allows programmers from around the world to collaborate, and eliminate bugs fast. With open source, one has complete insurance there are no back doors, or some other nasty things. attaining root access by downloading /etc/passwd and de-crypting the passwords. He bases this on a source called cicia.org. He said it reflected People who do not use shadow should be shot! In ancient versions of UNIX, passwords were indeed stored ( encrypted ) in /etc/passwd. Shadow passwords eliminates that. It moves all of the encrypted files to a file, that is readable by administrator ( root ) only. ( If root is compromised, system is doomed anyway ) In short -- it's not true. If passwords are stored in /etc/passwd, whoever is responsible for the system is not worth $1/day. several cases of insecurity regarding Linux. I would like to know from a more 'Several cases' out of what -- 1000? What about NT? Open source allows for patches to be distributed v. quickly, and problem is fixed before MS publicly admits that bug is present in their products... qualified source as to how to respond to this. I have been using Debian for a few months now and thoroughly enjoy it. Not only as an operating system, but for the documentation and the learning experience. Good luck in your quest. I'm ready to put Linux against NT any day. ( I'm not even talking about day-to-day administration. ) If you want to hear more assurances from people who actually run ISPs, e-mail debian-isp list. Thank you for your time and attention. No problem. -Nikita -- Even God cannot change the past. -- Joseph Stalin
Re: Linux security
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was having a discussion with my ISP about Linux. He said he uses Windows NT because it is much more secure than Linux. He stated that since the source code was available that it was very unsecure. He This is known as 'security through obscurity' NT is more secure because some smart person can't look at the source code and find a bug. Trouble is there is a 50/50 chance of a smart person looking at linux's source code and: 1 - Exploiting the bug 2 - Reporting the bug So it all manages to work out : With NT the people looking for bugs generally do so with an intent to exploit. mentioned something about attaining root access by downloading /etc/passwd and de-crypting the passwords. He bases this on a source called cicia.org. He said it reflected several cases of insecurity This is cute : No, you can't decrypt unix passwords, they use a hashing technique, the best you can do is guess. NT uses an IDENTICAL system of password management, save for the fact that they use MD4 hashes. If you donwload the windows registry from an NT machine you can subject it to the same attack. regarding Linux. I would like to know from a more qualified source as to how to respond to this. I have been using Debian for a few months There is a site someplace with security holes in NT, it's quite the impressive list and is esially comparable to the unix list (which includes alot more software) I don't have the url unfortunately. Jason
Re: Linux security
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : I was having a discussion with my ISP about Linux. He said he uses : Windows NT because it is much more secure than Linux. He stated that : since the source code was available that it was very unsecure. He : mentioned something about attaining root access by downloading : /etc/passwd and de-crypting the passwords. He bases this on a source : called cicia.org. He said it reflected several cases of insecurity : regarding Linux. I would like to know from a more qualified source : as to how to respond to this. I have been using Debian for a few : months now and thoroughly enjoy it. Not only as an operating system, : but for the documentation and the learning experience. Thank you for : your time and attention. Uh ... boy, I sure do like NT administrators. They make me worth more money :) I am by no means a Linux guru, but here's what I know: First, the /etc/passwd file can not be decrypted. First reason: on modern unices, the actual crytped passwords are kept in /etc/shadow, not /etc/passwd. Of course, you can disable shadow passwords, but if you do not you now have file permissions protecting your crypted passwords. However, let's assume someone grabs a copy of your /etc/passwd file, and you aren't using shadow passwords. All is not lost (yet). See, you can't decrypt the information stored on disk - your plaintext password is encrypted using a one-way hash (the crypt function), and every time you are prompted for your password your INPUT is again encrypted, and compared to the already encrypted version stored on disk. Given today's machines, it is possible to mount a brute force dictionary attack against crypted passwords - I take every word I can think of and crypt it using all 4096 salts. If I can produce a match against one of the password fields in your /etc/passwd file I have guessed the password! However, you can eliminate the success of a dictionary attack by employing triviality checks against proposed passwords. The Debian password suite does implement some of these checks, though it will allow the root user to assign any user a weak password. The makepasswd command can also be used to produce hard to guess passwords. I've seen quite a few programs that will attack the Windows Registry anbd retrieve passwords for you. Some security. As a non-trivial OS, Linux does of course have bugs. So does NT. Since the Linux source code is readily available, it can be perused for bugs at your leisure. Of course, some people will use this information for harm. Others will use it to produce a fix, and more often then not they propagate the fix throughout the community. Soon, most machines are no longer vulnerable to that security hole! Contrast this to NT, where source code is not available. In time, someone will discover some scheme where NT can be crashed, or its security m,odel compromised (remember OOB data?). However, even if the person discovering the bug is a conscientious person, tehy cannot fix the bug, even for themselves! No, you must go to Microsoft and either retrieve a patch or hgope they write one soon (this is my gripe with commercial unices as well). In the meantime, you are insecure! Not a great option for an ISP especially. opinion+rant Even if NT and Linux had similar security features and availability of source code were not an issue, I still choose Linux because of cost of ownership issues. Never mind the software license costs: have you priced an NT based news server lately? Or an NT based webserver? Or even an Exchange server? NT places gross demands on the hardware, often with no immediate benefit to the user (other than a pretty face). Linux, on the other hand, can extend the life of a 486, and if given enough RAM and disk can outperform many higher horsepower boxes running proprietary OSes. /opinion+rant Having said all that, I use NT on my desktop at work - I need Lotus Notes and I couldn't deal with Win95 crashing 3 times a day. NT crashes about every ten days, so that's not too bad (compared to 95). All of my servers do run Linux, and with the exception of two machines (one with flaky hardware; the other with a hodge-podge of add-on software anbd kludged scripts) they are rock solid - they never crash. Hmm - I just noticed you asked for a qualified source - that's not me :) Point him to on of the O'Reilly books on Internet security. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: Linux security
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 11:46:43AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was having a discussion with my ISP about Linux. He said he uses Windows NT because it is much more secure than Linux. He stated that since the source code was available that it was very unsecure. He mentioned something about attaining root access by downloading /etc/passwd and de-crypting the passwords. He bases this on a source called cicia.org. He said it reflected several cases of insecurity regarding Linux. I would like to know from a more qualified source as to how to respond to this. I have been using Debian for a few months now and thoroughly enjoy it. Not only as an operating system, but for the documentation and the learning experience. Thank you for your time and attention. I am no security expert but...I have been reading BUGTRAQ and have some understanding of security issuesbut here is what I have to say. First The only computer system that is truely secure is one whith all of the cords pulled out (ESPECIALLY POWER) locked in a thick steel safe and dropped to the bottom of the ocean The opion I have seen expressed form most security experts is that opensource tends to make thing sMORE SECURE. The reason is that people are able to read the source and find the problems...this allows them to be identified and fixed. NT not having open source meerly hides its vulnerabilities...and a hidden vulnerability is a ticking time bomb! ALso...personal experiance... At work we are a Microsoft shop...we had an NT machine where the admin password was lost. We were able to brute force the admin password in about 2 hours! In fact...the entire keyspace of the NT passwords can be searched in under 3 days on a modest desktop computer. This was with physical acess...to prove th epoint a co-worker then used his system to brute force another persons password...by pasively grabbing the password hash then brute forcing it...with NO physical acess to the NT machine wa sjust on the network As for his claims about Unix passwords... 1) Unix passwords are hashed NOT encrypted. This means that there is no magic that can give you the password if you know the right keys To get a unix password this way you must take possible passwords and hash them and test the hash against the original hash... this can be a dictionary attack (using a word list for weak word-based passwords) or brute force (trying every possible password from a to ) This WILL takew you allot longer than 3 days ;) 2) With shadow passwords the password hashes are hidden...only root can read them. Here is the difference: old style: root:JKzdgcbnwej:0:0:Info Field:/bin/bash ^^^ password hash used in cracking shadow (this is actually from the password file on MY system..cut and paste: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash ^ The hash is stored in /etc/shadow...which is NOT readable by anyone but root. This is a fairly standard security setup. To get back to open source... Often on Bugtraq I will see someone with a report saying There is a insert hole type in insert program name. The following is the source code for how to exploit it...insert exploit code and here is a patch to fix the problem: insert patch and with NT vulnerabilities... There is an exploit in this...here is how to exploit it (14 days later) Microsoft has releaces a patch... See a difference? see the advantage of Open Source? Note: i mean Open SOurce not free software... any program where source is available a patch like this can be made... even if its not free ..this is completely impossible with NT (unless you are into disassembly) -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux pgpDf44rVN3OJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Little/Big endian discussion (was: Re: can I burn the output of mpg123 -s?)
On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 10:54:52AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 08:46:20AM -0400, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: currently xfstt bombs out if it gets a connection of a differnt endianess than the system it is on...I have been meaning to fix that but maybe the PowerPC may have an easier fix... nah...ill just look into fixing it right Ouch.. use htons(), htonl(), ntohs(), ntohl() to convert; you don't have to know what endianness the machine is you're using, you rely on libc knowing and implementing those functions appropriately. well... thats the problem... htons et al are empty functions on big-endian systems and thge situation actually requires they perform the swap because in this case endian-ness matters and sending it in Network order is NOT apropriate unless Network Order is the same as host order on the client. see teh problem? if the other side doesn't ntoh the data then it doesn't work ;) -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux pgpump2lR501D.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux security
On 08/18/98 at 11:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I was having a discussion with my ISP about Linux. He said he uses Windows NT because it is much more secure than Linux. He stated that since the source code was available that it was very unsecure. He mentioned something about attaining root access by downloading /etc/passwd and de-crypting the passwords. He bases this on a source called cicia.org. He said it reflected several cases of insecurity regarding Linux. I would like to know from a more qualified source as to how to respond to this. I have been using Debian for a few months now and thoroughly enjoy it. Not only as an operating system, but for the documentation and the learning experience. Thank you for your time and attention. I know you are talking about NT vs Linux; but does anyone know how well Win95 password protection works? It doesn't the morons made the default configuration one where all the invader has to do is hit the ESC key to by pass the login. What is the _first_ thing some lacking in skill vandal would do upon seeing a login screen? I can't get in here. Better get rid of the evidence as he hits the ESC key. Any company that makes that configuration the default isn't capable of making a secure OS. It is beyond there mental ability. BTW, this is still the default for Win95 OSR2. Even better, there is no obvious way to change the default and the change takes some involved steps. George
Re: Linux security
In my experiance the only thing that happens when you press escape at the login screen is some machines on the network won't be visable/accesable On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, George R wrote: On 08/18/98 at 11:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I was having a discussion with my ISP about Linux. He said he uses Windows NT because it is much more secure than Linux. He stated that since the source code was available that it was very unsecure. He mentioned something about attaining root access by downloading /etc/passwd and de-crypting the passwords. He bases this on a source called cicia.org. He said it reflected several cases of insecurity regarding Linux. I would like to know from a more qualified source as to how to respond to this. I have been using Debian for a few months now and thoroughly enjoy it. Not only as an operating system, but for the documentation and the learning experience. Thank you for your time and attention. I know you are talking about NT vs Linux; but does anyone know how well Win95 password protection works? It doesn't the morons made the default configuration one where all the invader has to do is hit the ESC key to by pass the login. What is the _first_ thing some lacking in skill vandal would do upon seeing a login screen? I can't get in here. Better get rid of the evidence as he hits the ESC key. Any company that makes that configuration the default isn't capable of making a secure OS. It is beyond there mental ability. BTW, this is still the default for Win95 OSR2. Even better, there is no obvious way to change the default and the change takes some involved steps. George -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Linux security
On 08/18/98 at 11:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, George R wrote: I know you are talking about NT vs Linux; but does anyone know how well Win95 password protection works? It doesn't the morons made the default configuration one where all the invader has to do is hit the ESC key to by pass the login. What is the _first_ thing some lacking in skill vandal would do upon seeing a login screen? I can't get in here. Better get rid of the evidence as he hits the ESC key. Any company that makes that configuration the default isn't capable of making a secure OS. It is beyond there mental ability. BTW, this is still the default for Win95 OSR2. Even better, there is no obvious way to change the default and the change takes some involved steps. George In my experiance the only thing that happens when you press escape at the login screen is some machines on the network won't be visable/accesable I haven't tried it on a networked Win95 box. That is a real scarry result, bypass MS non-security and get limited network access. I _really_ don't want to depend on security in a MS OS now. Why bother with security like this? George
Re: Linux security
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 09:43:13PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: However, let's assume someone grabs a copy of your /etc/passwd file, and you aren't using shadow passwords. All is not lost (yet). See, you can't decrypt the information stored on disk - your plaintext password is encrypted using a one-way hash (the crypt function), and every time you are prompted for your password your INPUT is again encrypted, and compared to the already encrypted version stored on disk. I thought what happened was that the password entered is used to encrypt a string of 0's and the encoded (not encrypted) password is also used to encrypt the same string of 0's and if they match the password is correct. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my CC: from news not wanted or appreciated| skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+-
Re: Linux security
At 11:22 PM 8/18/1998 +, you wrote: On 08/18/98 at 11:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, George R wrote: I know you are talking about NT vs Linux; but does anyone know how well Win95 password protection works? It doesn't the morons made the default configuration one where all the invader has to do is hit the ESC key to by pass the login. What is the _first_ thing some lacking in skill vandal would do upon seeing a login screen? I can't get in here. Better get rid of the evidence as he hits the ESC key. Any company that makes that configuration the default isn't capable of making a secure OS. It is beyond there mental ability. BTW, this is still the default for Win95 OSR2. Even better, there is no obvious way to change the default and the change takes some involved steps. George In my experiance the only thing that happens when you press escape at the login screen is some machines on the network won't be visable/accesable I haven't tried it on a networked Win95 box. That is a real scarry result, bypass MS non-security and get limited network access. I _really_ don't want to depend on security in a MS OS now. Why bother with security like this? George Here on our university campus we tried putting a bunch of Win95 boxes in our several labs. It didn't take long to discover that that was not going to work. So the following year we converted to NT WS. I'm not really part of that side of things, so I'm not sure how things are working now, but as soon as I get more literate in Linux, I'll be pushing wherever I can to get away from the MS mentality. === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
Re: Linux security
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 11:22:37PM +, George R wrote: On 08/18/98 at 11:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, George R wrote: I know you are talking about NT vs Linux; but does anyone know how well Win95 password protection works? It doesn't the morons made the default configuration one where all the invader has to do is hit the ESC key to by pass the login. What is the _first_ thing some lacking in skill vandal would do upon seeing a login screen? I can't get in here. Better get rid of the evidence as he hits the ESC key. Any company that makes that configuration the default isn't capable of making a secure OS. It is beyond there mental ability. BTW, this is still the default for Win95 OSR2. Even better, there is no obvious way to change the default and the change takes some involved steps. George In my experiance the only thing that happens when you press escape at the login screen is some machines on the network won't be visable/accesable I haven't tried it on a networked Win95 box. That is a real scarry result, bypass MS non-security and get limited network access. I _really_ don't want to depend on security in a MS OS now. Why bother with security like this? At work we have a setup like this...it requires that you log in to even use the computer. If you hit cancel (or esc) it denies acess...but... hit alt-esc and presto the login screen is still there but the task manager comes up... then you merrily goto file-run and run explorerbang...startr menu...works...fully acessable and to add insult to injury... the login screen is STILL THERE waitin gfor you to login while you do your nasty deeds (of course even without thois/...as a demonstration we captured and brute forced someone s password in under a day) -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux pgpgiEdLUcl27.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux security
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: : On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 09:43:13PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: : However, let's assume someone grabs a copy of your /etc/passwd file, and : you aren't using shadow passwords. All is not lost (yet). See, you : can't decrypt the information stored on disk - your plaintext password : is encrypted using a one-way hash (the crypt function), and every time : you are prompted for your password your INPUT is again encrypted, and : compared to the already encrypted version stored on disk. : : I thought what happened was that the password entered is used to encrypt : a string of 0's and the encoded (not encrypted) password is also used to : encrypt the same string of 0's and if they match the password is correct. No. The first two characters of the Encrypted password field are the salt; the plaintext password collected from loogin or wherever is crypted using that salt, and the result compared to the entire field. The Perl Camel book has a function which demonstrates a simple implementation of this system. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: Linux security
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:27:40 -0500 (CDT), Nathan E Norman wrote: No. The first two characters of the Encrypted password field are the salt; the plaintext password collected from loogin or wherever is crypted using that salt, and the result compared to the entire field. Hrm, guess things have changed since the other nutshell book was printed. :/ -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+-
Re: New Debian user needs help: Problems about partitioning, booting from harddisk, etc.
Huang Yan wrote: I've just downloaded and installed Debian, the following problems were encountered: 1. My PC have 2 harddisks and 1 CD-ROM: Primary IDE Master: 4.3G (hda), LBA MODE Primary IDE Slave: NONE Secondary IDE Master:SONY CD-ROM(CDU611) Secondary IDE Slave: 2.1G (hdd), LBA MODE I installed Windows95 osr2 on hda first and then installed Debian on hdd from drive c. The installation of Debian seemed to be successful(except before LILO was installed, it's said that Debian would try to boot from my secondary harddisk but perhaps my CMOS doesn't support it), but after reboot Debian failed to boot from hdd. And I noticed that the size of my secondary harddisk(2.1G) in CMOS Setup Menu had been set to 528MB. How to explain this and how can Debian boot from my secondary harddisk? Should I set the harddisk mode from LBA to NORMAL before installing Debian? First, it sounds like you have an old? bios, if it reports 528m instead of 2.1g. I would double-check that; maybe cmos isn't setup correctly. Look in /etc/lilo.conf and see if it has 'boot=/dev/hda'. Since your machine aparently can't boot from hdd in your setup, try having lilo occupy the master boot record on the primary hard drive. Of course, don't change the root line which should still specify hdd1 as where linux is. LBA is not a problem, and shouldn't be for you unless you have a real old bios. Linux is quite happy with my 4g hard drive in LBA mode. 2. What's the difference between primary partition and logical partition in Linux? Which should I select when I partition my harddisk for Debian? logical parts are a creation of DOS/Win world. Linux works with both types. If you can, avoid using logical partitions. Since you have only one DOS/Win partition, there should be no need for a logical partition. A lot of thanks!! -- Ed C.
Re: [ale] SB16 PnP Problems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Dixon writes: I've never been able to get my SB16 ViBra Pnp to work. Using sndconfig I alaways get dsp reset failed. I'm pretty certain my isapnp.conf file is set up correctly as I see information pertaining to it just before I see the sound driver loading. When I try to play a sound I get a device busy error. Anyone know whats going on? Dejanews had nada. Does the sound.o (sound module of the kernel) match the settings of isapnp.conf? If the IRQ, BASE address, etc. are not consistant between the kernel, DOS/windowss. and isapnp.conf , you can have problems. Second thing, did you install the NAS package? It conflicts with stand-alone audio packages. Show us what the output of 'cat /dev/sndstat' is. -- Ed C.
Re: Almost there. . .HELP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was able to ping 130.207.7.21 as ftp.debian.org but when I run dselect, choose ftp access enter 130.207.7.21 as address, select anonymous login, the default directories and no proxies, I get the following: Using FTP to check directories. . .(stop with cntrlC) Connecting to 130.207.7.21. . . Login as anonymous. . . Setting transfer mode to binary. . . Cd to '/debian'. . . Checking dists/stable/main/binary-i386. . .FTP ERROR - Can't call method _close without a package or object reference at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 689, STDIN chunk 8. query/setup script returned error exit status 1. Press RETURN to continue. It seems I am connecting O.K. but something seems to fail part way. I've tried this several times tonight and I keep getting the same fail in the same spot. I'm clueless,. . . how about you? I'm probably doing something really stupid, but, I know nothing about this network stuff, I only need the connection long enough to finish installing Debian!!! Then I'll be happy : Cheers, John Gay 01:46am ~$ dpkg -S /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm libnet-perl: /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm Do you have the libnet-perl package installed? You really would be better off with apt. Get apt from slink, and install it. Then you can use it by the command line, or from within dselect as a special 'access' method (right after ftp in the list). -- Ed C.
Encrypt files?
Using SMB (or not, although accessing through Samba is the primary interest), is it possible to have the files encrypted with on-the-fly decryption? TIA, Hank
Passwd Encryption (Re: Linux security)
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:27:40 -0500 (CDT), Nathan E Norman wrote: No. The first two characters of the Encrypted password field are the salt; the plaintext password collected from loogin or wherever is crypted using that salt, and the result compared to the entire field. Hrm, guess things have changed since the other nutshell book was printed. :/ An extract from the crypt(3) man page: crypt is the password encryption function. It is based on the Data Encryption Standard algorithm with variations intended (among other things) to discourage use of hard? ware implementations of a key search. key is a user's typed password. salt is a two-character string chosen from the set [a-zA-Z0-9./]. This string is used to perturb the algo? rithm in one of 4096 different ways. By taking the lowest 7 bit of each character of the key, a 56-bit key is obtained. This 56-bit key is used to encrypt repeatedly a constant string (usually a string consisting of all zeros). The returned value points to the encrypted password, a series of 13 printable ASCII characters (the first two characters represent the salt itself). The return value points to static data whose content is overwritten by each call. Chris --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! --- Reply with subject 'key' for PGP public key. KeyID A9E087D5
Re: Linux and Security
After thinking about the crypt function, salts, etc... would it not be possible to do this: 1) obtain the source for the crypt function. 2) obtain by whatever method, the hashed/encrypted/whatever password from /etc/shadow. 3) reverse the technique in the crypt function, then apply that to the string obtained from /etc/shadow using salt #1 4) repeat step 3 for each of the 4096 (??) salts. would that leave you with 4096 possible passwords to try at login? maybe use a telnet script of some kind somehow? The above is only an Idea I thought of on the toilet (of all places.. sheesh). would it work? Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - Bother! said Pooh, as the Klingons opened fire. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: OFF-TOPIC (How do you guys sort your mail?)
Hi, __ dpkg -s mailagent Package: mailagent Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: mail Installed-Size: 1140 Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 3.63-1 Depends: libc6, perl, sendmail | smail | mail-transport-agent Description: An automatic mail-processing tool Mailagent allows you to process your mail automatically. This has far more functionality than procmail, and is easier to configure (providing, of course, that you grok perl). As a mail processing tool, this slices, it dices, it ... . Given a set of lex-like rules, you are able to file mails to specific folders (plain Unix-style folders and also MMDF and MH ones), forward messages to a third person, pipe a message to a command or even post the message to a newsgroup. . It is also possible to process messages containing some commands. . You may also set up a vacation program, which will automatically answer your mail while you are not there, but more flexibly than the Unix command of the same name. You only need to supply a message to be sent and the frequency at which this will occur. Some simple macro substitutions allow you to re-use some parts of the mail header into your vacation message, for a more personalized reply. . You may also set up a generic mail server, without the hassle of the lower-level concerns like error recovery, logging or command parsing. . The mailagent is not usually invoked manually but is rather called via the filter program, which is in turn invoked by sendmail. That means you must have sendmail/smail on your system to use this. You also must have perl to run the mailagent scripts. . It is possible to extend the mailagent filtering commands by implementing them in perl and then having them automagically loaded when used. manoj -- The degree of technical confidence is inversely proportional to the level of management. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E
Re: Apt how, why, where
Mark Panzer wrote: Question, Apt is supposed to be a better replacement for dselect/dpkg right? Can you install it on a HAMM system, and if so how? I guess I kinda got left behind on the Apt thing. Does Apt use the same .deb's as dselect? Also what is the proper way to compile and install a kernel in debian? I've heard make kpkg instead of make zlilo and other makeables. Sorry for all the questions. Thanks. Mark Panzer Apt is a replacement for dselect, not dpkg. It is front-end to dpkg, so the '.deb' packaging scheme is the same. It currently has only a command-line interface. However it also installs itself as a 'access' method under dselect. dselect/apt is better than dselect/ftp. 'make-kpkg' is supposed to be the Debian Way(TM), although, being lazy, I still go the old zlilo/zImage route. -- Ed C.
Re: Linux and Security
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, George Bonser wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: 2) obtain by whatever method, the hashed/encrypted/whatever password from /etc/shadow. Stop right there. Since /etc/shadow is readable only by root, if you can access the file, you must be root right? If you are root, you do not NEED a password to access a user's account. You can just become that user. You can also create your own user accounts. You can also change the root and user passwords or delete the passwords. In other words ... the whole point is to protect root and keep /etc/shadow readable only by root. If you can read the shadow file, you don't need it. Okay, true, but it was more of a feasability question, if you can get the string, is it possible to use the following method to decrypt it?? Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Samba and win98
I have just stumbled across an annoying little problem. A friend and I have a network between our PC's, and when I mount his smbfs shares, I get really screwy file listings. when there is 700 files or something (windows dir.. :) ) it comes out showing me 64, 128 etc... it changes intermitently. Anyone got an idea as to wtf is going on? TIA, Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 007 System price error - Inadequate money spent on hardware - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: Libforms?
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 07:27:57PM -0700, phillip Neumann wrote: What means : ./DAP: can't load library 'libforms.so.0.88' ?? It means ./DAP is linked against the library libforms.so.0.88 which cannot be found by the dynamic loader. Install the libforms0.88 package from the non-free section of the archives and try again. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Linux and Security
George Bonser wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: Okay, true, but it was more of a feasability question, if you can get the string, is it possible to use the following method to decrypt it?? Sure ... the login program has to decrypt it, doesn't it? You can cut/paste passwd entries between linux systems ... the encrypted password is not system-specific. No, it's not reversable. There is no way to get the original password from the data in the shadow password file. Login simply takes the password the user enters, encrypts it using crypt(), and compares it with that's in the password file. No decryption is done. -- see shy jo
Re: Samba and win98
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I have just stumbled across an annoying little problem. A friend and I have a network between our PC's, and when I mount his smbfs shares, I get really screwy file listings. when there is 700 files or something (windows dir.. :) ) it comes out showing me 64, 128 etc... it changes intermitently. Anyone got an idea as to wtf is going on? What kernel version are you using? You can find out by typing in uname -a. I have had problems using 2.1.109 accessing a Win98 computer, as I often get errors: Too many open files (or something similar). I am not sure if this is becuase of Linux or Win98.
Re: Linux and Security
Hi, Michael == Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael After thinking about the crypt function, salts, etc... would Michael it not be possible to do this: Michael 1) obtain the source for the crypt function. Michael 2) obtain by whatever method, the hashed/encrypted/whatever Michaelpassword from /etc/shadow. That means you are root on the machine. Michael 3) reverse the technique in the crypt function, then apply Michaelthat to the string obtained from /etc/shadow using salt #1 Yup. You shall then have accomplished something that noone else has, so far. You probably shall then command large salaries as several corporations and government agencies vie for you talents ;-) Michael 4) repeat step 3 for each of the 4096 (??) salts. Why? You already know what the salt is, if you have read /etc/shadow. And if you can reverse crypt; you have the password. Michael would that leave you with 4096 possible passwords to try at Michael login? maybe use a telnet script of some kind somehow? Does your telent allow you to keep trying passwords ad infinitum? Does it not close connections after a fixed number of attempts? manoj -- Practice is the best of all instructors. Publilius Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E
Re: Apt how, why, where
Hi, Ed == Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ed'make-kpkg' is supposed to be the Debian Way(TM), although, being lazy, Ed I still go the old zlilo/zImage route. That is surprising; make-kpkg has been designed for the truly lazy ;-) These are really the steps I take (one is supposed to read the docs, but since I wrote 'em, I skip that step ;-) __ For the Brave and the impatient: 1% cd kernel source tree 2% make config # or make menuconfig or make xconfig and configure 3% make-kpkg clean 4% fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image 5# dpkg -i ../kernel-image-X.XXX_1.0_arch.deb 6# shutdown -r now # If and only if LILO worked or you have a means of # booting the new kernel. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! With the addition of fakeroot ( a really nice program, I recommend it) Steps 1 to 4 can be carried out as a non root user. Step 5 does require root privileges. __ manoj -- You can't depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus. Mark Twain Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E
Re: HELP! emufs doesn't work with FreeDos under dosemu in Debian
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Michele Bini wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote: Hi All! I just had to run some DO$ software on my Linux Box (exactly: the monitor for DSP56002EVM evaluation module and DSP56002 assembler). I have decided to install the dosemu. To keep my box M$-free I wanted to use the FreeDOS I experienced the same your problem (I was not able to access the linux fs using lredir), and solved it using Open DOS from Caldera. Yes... I used the M$ DOS (which I have bought with my computer, because it is very difficult to buy a computer in Poland without included M$ additions). However I think, that we should report this problem as a bug to the FreeDos team. May be they simply don't know about it... Greetings Wojtek Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: refocus photo?
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 10:59:44PM +0200, Joost Witteveen wrote: Hi, I've got (at least) one photo taken while the camera was moving. Only one? :) I'd really like to get rid of the vageness caused by this motion. Mmmh. I doubt that this is possible... but I'd like to be proofed wrong. Actually, missing sharpness is lost information. How can this information be regained? OTOH, maybe there are acceptable solutions for certain types of photos. No software can bring back lost information. However it is possible to enphasize the edges of an image 'refocusing' it a little. In GIMP you could use the 'enhance' filter.
Re: Formatting a file with mkfs.msdos
My problem is I want to get the FAT formatting onto a file (disk image may be a better word) that is 20Mb large so I can mount it under DOSEMU. Why do it that way, you ask? Simple, I don't have any room on my current HDs to make a real DOS partition and by doing it this way I can delete it later on down the road. The problem is, mkfs.msdos (or mkfs -t fat) cannot find the geometry of the drive (file) even when it is hooked up through a loopback device. If you can't tell mkfs.msdos the disk geometry of the disk (actually disk image), then I would file this as a bug (or wish list item) against the package which contains mkfs.msdos (Does the FAT filesystem even depend on the disk geometry? I didn't think it did, but I could be mistaken...)
Re: boot from an extended partition?
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Paul Miller wrote: Can Linux boot from an extended partition if I use a program such as System Commander? If System Commander is as powerful as LILO, it should be possible. Ciao Michele
Re: Linuxmusicface=2
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, phillip Neumann wrote: Linux isn't the crap, you should be refering to the lack of applications that exist. If you need one so bad you should start a project to create one, join debian-devel., learn C, etc... That's how the Linux/GNU thing works, everyone pitches in. If you don't like it improve it! Mark Panzer Hi, Well, your right. The Linux isnot crap. But for people that only use computer only for music, they dont see any app for music and so , for them, linux is crap. Fortunatly im not not one of these. And this situation is good for me. I can `kill 2 bird on one shot': i can learn programing without going away from my hobby... With a little searching, you can find several versatile sound/music packages (see URLs sent by people yesterday) - if you find one of those that does almost what you want, then it's probably more productive to use the source for that as a basis rather than starting from scratch. Yours, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: FAQ-o-MATIC
[this is cross posted to the user list, as I want to get some of our kind users to help with the FAQ-O-MATIC. The idea is that it is their FAQ. Please snip the CC list as appropriate] (and so some of us get it twice? :) ) I think we should get the users to use the fom. it is their FAQ, if they want it. Any users around here who want to see this, too? Part of the problem, I think, is that it isn't publicised, and so few people know how to submit things to it - but yes it is a good idea - and could avoid embarassment when you forget something obvious ;) Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: Apt how, why, where
Manoj wrote: These are really the steps I take (one is supposed to read the docs, but since I wrote 'em, I skip that step ;-) __ For the Brave and the impatient: 1% cd kernel source tree 2% make config # or make menuconfig or make xconfig and configure 3% make-kpkg clean 4% fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image 5# dpkg -i ../kernel-image-X.XXX_1.0_arch.deb 6# shutdown -r now # If and only if LILO worked or you have a means of # booting the new kernel. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! With the addition of fakeroot ( a really nice program, I recommend it) Steps 1 to 4 can be carried out as a non root user. Step 5 does require root privileges. __ Being lazy myself, I have a feature request on behalf of all the (lazy) loadlin users. Would it be possible to have the newly created kernel-image package offer the option of copying the kernel to the place loadlin expects it in your setup? I would figure that kernel-package_...deb could ask if there is a standard `loadlin-kernel-directory', and store that in its configuration files. Of course it should rename old kernels using some intelligent renaming scheme (vmlinuz.1, vmlinuz.2, ...). Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
format a floppy ?
Hello, as i upgraded from bo to hamm (and on other machine I installed directly hamm), I miss the fdformat command... where's that gone ? -- Matus fantomas Uhlar, sysadmin at NETLAB+ Kosice, Slovakia BIC coord for *.sk; admin of netlab.irc.sk; co-admin of irc.felk.cvut.cz
Re: Problem with KDE
According to Stefan Stefan: I have a problem with KDE an I try to describe it so exactly as possible. I have installed on my Debian Linux 1.3.1 the .deb packets from ftp.kde.org. These packets were: kdesupport0g_980710-1_0-1_i386.deb kdelibs0g_980710-1_0-1_i386.deb kdebase_980710-1_0-1_i386.deb I could install this packets without any error. To do this I used the following packets. [ some lines omitted ] If I enter startx starts the Kpanal and the blue Desktop Background appears. But on the Desktop were no icons (f. g. trash, autostart, ...,) I can click around in the KPanal Menu, but I can not start a program with it. If I tipp kfm into a xtreme window, appears the kfm and the symbols on the desktop for some seconds. According to my memory: You have to install the *-dev version for one of the above KDE libraries (kdesupport0g, kdelibs0g, don't remeber exactly which). If not, you are missing some important icons. This is a packaging bug, of course. Please help. Stehpan Hope it helps. Mfg K.-W. Schulte -- Dr. Karl-Wilhelm Schulte Bergische Universitaet-GH/HRZ (Computing Center) Gaussstr. 20 D-42097 Wuppertal (Germany) Tel. +49-202-4392807, Fax +49-202-4392910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Problems
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Jens Ch. Lisner wrote: I am really confused about this. Well, have you tried using a mixer to figure out where the noise originates from, e.g. MIC IN or so ? /(__ __|\ Lars Steinke, Research Student @ (\/ __)_www.fmf.uni-freiburg.de, Germany ) (_ / for PGP PKey and WWW-Page finger /___/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can apt-get do proxy-http req?
On 18 Aug 98 at 9:01, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: Set http_proxy to point to your proxy server, ie export http_proxy=http://172.16.1.1:3128/; The sources.list man page explains this. Thanks! I'm trying this now. (BTW the information on apt in the bottom half of the dselect access methods screen refers to the man page for source.list, apparently a typo!) Tony Tony Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +49-3341-30 99 99 Fax: +49-3341-30 99 98
non-interactive ispell
Howdy, is it possible to let ispell find all words that it doesn't understand store in a file? When checking a long text one can't concentrate by all these words that ispell doesn't know. Something like would be appreciated ispell -option file wrong-spellings ispell file |some-fitler wrong-spellings Regards, Joey -- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall
Re: Linux and Security
On 19 Aug 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Michael == Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael After thinking about the crypt function, salts, etc... would Michael it not be possible to do this: Michael 1) obtain the source for the crypt function. Michael 2) obtain by whatever method, the hashed/encrypted/whatever Michaelpassword from /etc/shadow. That means you are root on the machine. It was more of a by whatever means possible scenario. Michael 3) reverse the technique in the crypt function, then apply Michaelthat to the string obtained from /etc/shadow using salt #1 Yup. You shall then have accomplished something that noone else has, so far. You probably shall then command large salaries as several corporations and government agencies vie for you talents ;-) Great :) -- - Michael 4) repeat step 3 for each of the 4096 (??) salts. Why? You already know what the salt is, if you have read /etc/shadow. And if you can reverse crypt; you have the password. Ooops.. forgot the salt is right under yer nose. Michael would that leave you with 4096 possible passwords to try at Michael login? maybe use a telnet script of some kind somehow? Does your telent allow you to keep trying passwords ad infinitum? Does it not close connections after a fixed number of attempts? um, reconnect maybe? yeah, I know, my box is set to 5 attempts.. or is it 3? heh.. cant remember. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 003 Dynamic linking error - Your mistake is now in every file - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: Sound Problems
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Lars Steinke wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Jens Ch. Lisner wrote: I am really confused about this. Well, have you tried using a mixer to figure out where the noise originates from, e.g. MIC IN or so ? Yes, you are right! The bass volume seemed to be too high. Thanx for the hint! Jens
Re: Yet another WindowMaker question...
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Debian Apps OPEN_MENU menu.hook Yes - that's exactly what I wanted to get. Thank You a lot. e) Optionally, if you want to add your own items to the Debian Apps menu, create files in /etc/menu/ for the items you want there. (And read the menu documentation -- you have menu installed, don't you?) Well - its silly, but I still don't get how each user can customize Debian Apps using menu - I know that it is possible to overwrite some menu entry in ~/.menu (or ~/.menus) but I still don't know how to _add_ some new menu entry :( Bilbo
Re: modprobe
count zero [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi to all, when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10 does anyone know what to do to eliminate this annoying message ? i don't know what is this module for . edit /etc/conf.modules Jens -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] KeyID: 2048/E451C639 1998/01/28 Print: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 This is the difference: Unix is an OS with tradition, the other are illogical from scratch. -- free translation from Anselm Lignau's comment in de.comp.os.unix.discussion
Re: non-interactive ispell
Sorry to quote myself but suddenly Ray got the answer. Martin Schulze wrote: is it possible to let ispell find all words that it doesn't understand store in a file? When checking a long text one can't concentrate by all these words that ispell doesn't know. The program spell from the spell package does exactly this. One disadvantage though: it doesn't know how to use LaTeX encoded umlauts. Since I'm in Germany and have to write in German partially I'd like to check german texts. Any hint how I should encode umlauts? Ascii, Iso, HTML and LaTeX are no problems... Regards, Joey -- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall
Re: Samba and win98
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kernel version are you using? You can find out by typing in uname -a. I have had problems using 2.1.109 accessing a Win98 computer, as I often get errors: Too many open files (or something similar). I am not sure if this is becuase of Linux or Win98. Uhh, this was with Samba (the smbd daemon) or with smbmount-2.1.x? I've seen the Too many open files or something like that when using smbmount with Windows 95 clients, but have never seen the message with Samba. peloy.-
new Official 2.0 CD's?
Hi, I have an image of the debian 2.0 cd's called `binary-i386.raw', with md5sum 726e6e06379b4bb33a1726c00f2828d6. This matches the md5sum that was in the MD5SUMS file that I got from the same source. Now I find that the md5sum listed for binary-i386.raw on several mirror sites has the md5sum e25491474227b42f61e4185201f4120b listed. Is this a newer version? Wouldn't it be nice to inform people about the creation date of the image? I came across two problems using the first image in a fresh install: - I could not get the installation to write the configured kernel to a floppy (I don't use LILO). After formatting the floppy, the program announced that the floppy was bad. I got around this, using the rescue disk kernel and later compiling my own, and later the very same floppy proved perfectly ok for holding the kernel. Any comments? - The installation of xserver-something_...deb packages screwed up, due to an error in the preinst script. I downloaded a newer version (xserver-mach64_3.3.2.2-4.deb), and this installed ok, but I ended up with the XF86-VGA16 server installed. I think this happened at least to one other person on the list, who reported (s)he could not get a depth greater than 4. I edited the /etc/X11/Xserver file to point to the mach64 server, and now X11 works as expected. I also deleted some files called `newxserver' in /etc/X11. Does anyone know whether this could hurt? Question: has the new image the fixed xserver packages on it? Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: Samba and win98
Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just stumbled across an annoying little problem. A friend and I have a network between our PC's, and when I mount his smbfs shares, I get really screwy file listings. when there is 700 files or something (windows dir.. :) ) it comes out showing me 64, 128 etc... it changes intermitently. Anyone got an idea as to wtf is going on? Oh, the problem is with smbfs and NOT with Samba. I got confused by the subject line... Yup, what kernel version are you using? There's something wrong with smbfs in 2.1.x kernels when smbmount'ing a share from Windows 95 (and probably Windows 98 as well, as you report) servers. peloy.-
Re: non-interactive ispell
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
is it possible to let ispell find all words that it doesn't understand
store in a file? When checking a long text one can't concentrate by
all these words that ispell doesn't know.
The program spell from the spell package does exactly this.
One disadvantage though: it doesn't know how to use LaTeX encoded
umlauts.
Since I'm in Germany and have to write in German partially
I'd like to check german texts. Any hint how I should encode
umlauts? Ascii, Iso, HTML and LaTeX are no problems...
Why not write your texts with the real umlauts (requires:
\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} in the preamble)?
Greetings
jtr
Re: modprobe
On 18 Aug 98 at 23:10, count zero wrote: hi to all, when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10 Me too! Can you please forward any personal replies you get that don't go through the list? Tony Tony Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +49-3341-30 99 99 Fax: +49-3341-30 99 98
Re: modprobe
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Tony Crawford wrote: On 18 Aug 98 at 23:10, count zero wrote: when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10 Me too! Can you please forward any personal replies you get that don't go through the list? Hi Please, either cc: me any replies, or perhaps post a summary. Many thanks David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business.
Designing a Linux lab.
Hi. We have some Linux servers, and we want to build a new computer lab. We basically have two choices: 1. Install NT on all of them, and work with Xceed. 2. Install a dual boot Linux/NT on them. I'd like it to be the dual boot (If it was up to me, we wouldn't put the NTs at all...) I have one question, though, NT has an option to be installed and configured from the network (I don't mean installing via NFS, but actually get all the installation profile form the network, including the installed programs and conf. files (Of course the administrator has to give the ip and host name)). Is there such an option for Linux? If there is it will be much easier to convince my boss to make the systems dual boots. I can put a main /usr partition on our RAID, and just copy the /etc directory. But even in this way I'll have to change the ip and hostname manually for every computer. I want the students to be able to work locally on the Linux machines, and might add a third boot option to run XDM, connect to our chooser and work from the servers. TIA, Liran. --- http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~liranz/
Re: Debian Knowledge Base ?
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Hank Fay wrote: What I think would be helpful would be a Keyword search which then provided the title and link for results; on the order of the gasp! MSKB. That way, when you searched on kernel you'd come up with 'make-kpkg' in a couple of locations. I responded to RMS on his article on the need for free documentation as well as free software (as the maillist is testament to, it's darned hard to use the second without the first), and he suggested I write it (I knew this was a risk when writing him g). Keywords of sound software would bring up titles and links. I'll second that. These searches could also be tied into the bug tracking system as well. --- Greg Tower Starkes (http://www.cs.mun.ca/~gstarkes/) NLPA Secretary (http://www.infonet.st-johns.nf.ca/nlpa/) Player with Voodoo Reign (http://www.cs.mun.ca/~gstarkes/voodoo/)
Re: qmail package for debian?
On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 12:16:15PM +1000, Damon Muller wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 19:02:23 -0500 the lone gunman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some source debs either in contrib or non-free (can't remember which off the top of my head). The program's author has various restrictions on distribution of binary packages, mainly because he can't guareentee that the code is pure and still secure. Yes there is qmail source package but only 1.02 not the latest 1.03 And recently Bernstein has changed policy about distributing qmail in binary form. -- Robert Ramiega | [EMAIL PROTECTED]IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate IT Manager @ PDi | http://plukwa.pdi.net/| the power of Source
Runaway X
Debian 2.0 installed on my machine amazingly easy, including ppp connectivity. However, now that I'm trying to get X up, things have bogged down. In trying to debug XF86Config, my system is caught in an endless loop it cannot get out of. The problem is that xdm somehow is in the boot sequence and now I can't shut it off. Ctrl/Alt/BS kills the server, but it immediately comes back up. I've tried rebooting with the boot floppy and the rescue floppy, but as soon as the file system is mounted and fsck'ed, the disfunctional X comes right back. How can I get out of this endless loop so I can fix XF86Config? This is a stand-alone machine, so it cannot be remotedly accessed. Once I can stop the looping, I can start figuring out why the server only comes up in 340x200 mode and why /dev/psaux doesn't work as a Microsoft mouse port. Thanks, Harry Hersh
ppp connect trouble
Hello I am currently having a problem with ppp in Debian 2.0. When I first boot into debian and run my ppp script. It connects fine. But when I hang up (kill the pppd pid) and try to reconnect be re-executing the script nothing happens the system just sits here and does nothing. Aug 19 08:18:07 indolent pppd[6010]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 Aug 19 08:18:07 indolent pppd[6010]: Removed stale lock on ttyS3 (pid 238) Aug 19 08:18:54 indolent chat[6043]: Failed Aug 19 08:18:54 indolent pppd[6010]: Connect script failed Aug 19 08:19:50 indolent pppd[6010]: Serial connection established. Aug 19 08:19:51 indolent pppd[6010]: Using interface ppp0 Aug 19 08:19:51 indolent pppd[6010]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS3 Aug 19 08:19:54 indolent pppd[6010]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP Aug 19 08:19:54 indolent pppd[6010]: local IP address 204.213.187.95 Aug 19 08:19:54 indolent pppd[6010]: remote IP address 204.213.187.100 But if I wait for a while then it will work. Because the first time it does not work but the second time it does. Anyone know?
Re: Runaway X
Debian 2.0 installed on my machine amazingly easy, including ppp connectivity. However, now that I'm trying to get X up, things have bogged down. In trying to debug XF86Config, my system is caught in an endless loop it cannot get out of. The problem is that xdm somehow is in the boot sequence and now I can't shut it off. Ctrl/Alt/BS kills the server, but it immediately comes back up. I've tried rebooting with the boot floppy and the rescue floppy, but as soon as the file system is mounted and fsck'ed, the disfunctional X comes right back. How can I get out of this endless loop so I can fix XF86Config? This is a stand-alone machine, so it cannot be remotedly accessed. The mistake you have made is to tell xdm to start automatically before getting X configured correctly. Try starting it up in single user mode... and using the boot floppy shouldn't let xdm start - it's running its own programm... Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: Designing a Linux lab.
Liran Zvibel wrote: I have one question, though, NT has an option to be installed and configured from the network (I don't mean installing via NFS, but actually get all the installation profile form the network, including the installed programs and conf. files (Of course the administrator has to give the ip and host name)). Is there such an option for Linux? If there is it will be much easier to convince my boss to make the systems dual boots. I can put a main /usr partition on our RAID, and just copy the /etc directory. But even in this way I'll have to change the ip and hostname manually for every computer. I want the students to be able to work locally on the Linux machines, and might add a third boot option to run XDM, connect to our chooser and work from the servers. I think there's a diskless mini-HOWTO at http://sunsite.unc.edu./LDP/ and a xterminal tutorial at http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta/unix/xterminal/index.html or something like that -- Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra http://www.terravista.pt./Enseada/1989/ BRASIL _ Campanha da fita ASCII - contra correio HTML vcards X ASCII ribbon campaign - against HTML email vcards / \
CDE
Is there a window manager for debian similar (if not the same as) to CDE? The closest one I can find is Openlook Virtual but I would rather not use it. Cheers, begin: vcard fn: Christopher Wesneski n: Wesneski;Christopher org:STMicroelectronics adr:1310 Electronics Drive;;;Carrollton, Texas;;75006;USA email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] title: ASIC Design Engineer, PMG tel;work: (972) 466-8277 tel;fax:(972) 466-6572 note;quoted-printable:I skate to where the puck is going to be,=0D=0A= not where it has been. -Wayne Gretzky x-mozilla-cpt: http://sun4s023/~wesneski/;2 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: CDE
Chris, Try xfce http://www.linux-kheops.com/pub/xfce/en/index.html. It does include the window manager xfwm, but does not require it. It is a toolbar which resembles cde. The binaries are in rpm. Just run alien on them and install with dpkg. Hope this helped. Joe On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Christopher Wesneski wrote: Is there a window manager for debian similar (if not the same as) to CDE? The closest one I can find is Openlook Virtual but I would rather not use it. Cheers,
