ext2fs:64: et/com_err.h: No such file or directory

[Paul Miller]

I'm trying to build quota with the setquota patch and I'm missing a header
file.  Does anyone know what package contains "et/com_err.h"?

$ debian/rules build
test -f quota.c -a -f debian/rules
make CC=gcc CFLAGS="-O2 -DRPC -DEXT2_DIRECT"
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/quota-1.65/quota-1.65'
gcc -O2 -DRPC -DEXT2_DIRECT   -c quotacheck.c -o quotacheck.o
In file included from quotacheck.c:44:
/usr/include/ext2fs/ext2fs.h:64: et/com_err.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [quotacheck.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/quota-1.65/quota-1.65'
make: *** [build] Error 2

Thanks
-Paul

Re: Apt how, why, where

[Pete Harlan]

>  E> kernel-image package offer the option of copying the kernel to the
>  E> place loadlin expects it in your setup?  I would figure that
...

>   There is no real standard place where loadlin users keep the
>  images; and any hardwired solution is unlikely to satisfy more than a
...

>   Comments?
> 
>   manoj

Isn't there a config file in /etc?  I accept the defaults when
installing my custom-made kernel packages, but even there it would be
easier if I could specify it once in the conf file.  This should make
the loadlin people happy, and the ask-questions-all-at-once install
folks too.

Just a thought.  Bloat good.

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS: Anyone know why Meta-backspace doesn't work in an xterm in hamm/slink?
It works on the console, or when emacs has its own X window, but not
on the xterm[-debian] command-line or emacs when it's in an xterm.

diald and ppp problems

[Will Lowe]

I'm using the hamm pppd and diald packages.  I've got ppp working fine I
can do (as root)
pppd call myisp 
and it connects.

I'm trying to set up diald to do it and it's not working.  Diald
1) doesn't seem to realize that pppd is successful in making a connection
-- it kills pppd with a "connect script failed" message _after_
pppd has set up the link
2) isn't manipulating my routing tables right.  "route" just hangs after
it prints column headings.  Is there some way to get diald
to just start pppd and let _it_ handle setting up routes?

Here's /etc/diald/diald.options:

#fifo /var/run/diald/diald.fifo
device /dev/ttyS2
mode ppp
connect "/usr/sbin/pppd call myisp"
lock
modem
crtscts
local 192.168.0.1
remote 192.168.0.2
dynamic
defaultroute
include /etc/diald/standard.filter

Will


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RE: fixing my host name!

[Hank Fay]

dynip does have a linux port, which I will be exploring shortly as I attempt
to put up my ipmasq + portforwarding machine.  I'm using the service on
Win95 right now, and it works as advertised.  For the dynip.com domain (you
prepend your subdomain) the price is $24.95/year, with a 60-day free trial
first.

Hank


Using  VFP: MS's OOP Production Tool
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/fayhj

-Original Message-
From: Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 1998 7:25 PM
To: Matt Garman; Debian User's List
Subject: Re: fixing my host name!


Although the scenerio you paint shouldn't be causing a problem, you could
get a permanent hostname through dynip.com (see www.dynip.com).  It is a for
$ service but pretty cheap last I checked.  No I do not use it (yet) but a
friend of mine does and he is very happy.  I understand they have or are at
least working on a Linux port.

Good luck.
-

Re: fixing my host name!

[Lane]

Although the scenerio you paint shouldn't be causing a problem, you could
get a permanent hostname through dynip.com (see www.dynip.com).  It is a for
$ service but pretty cheap last I checked.  No I do not use it (yet) but a
friend of mine does and he is very happy.  I understand they have or are at
least working on a Linux port.

Good luck.
-Original Message-
From: the lone gunman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian User's List 
Date: Wednesday, August 19, 1998 3:54 PM
Subject: fixing my host name!


>
>Several of my emails are getting returned by the intended receiever's
>ISP.  The emails are returned with "invalid hostname" -- *my*
>hostname.  Since I am currently only using PPP to connect to the 'net,
>I have a bogus hostname.
>
>I believe, though, that some mailers reject my name because of spam
>filters or whatever.  At any rate, what should I change my hostname to
>(and how) so that it appears okay for strict mail systems?  My ISP IP
>is dynamic, so I can't use that (those?).
>
>Help!
>Thanks.
>
>
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>

stable-updates?

[Gary L. Hennigan]

What's the plan for files in the stable-updates directory on
ftp.debian.org? Will these eventually be moved into the hamm
distribution? I understand they're bug fixes for stable but why are
they in a separate directoy instead of just replacing whatever's buggy 
in hamm/stable?

Thanks,
Gary

Re: Installion: Uncorrectable Error

[shaul]

Doesn't it simplly says that the HD has bad sectors ?
> 
> I am trying to install debian onto a partition on my second hard drive,
> I get finished installing, and making my boot floppy, by i get a lot of
> error messages,when I reboot to continue installion. There are so many
> messages after a while the computer just sits there, and doesnt do
> anything.  I tried reinstalling probably 20+ times, and it is still
> doing this, I got further than that once, but there was another problem
> later on, in hardware, so was going to reinstall, and it is screwed up
> again, the error message that I get is:
> 
> hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error}
> hdb: read_intr: error=0x40 {UnCorrectable Error}, CHS=40/3/25
> sector=34548
> end_request: I/O Error, dev 03:42, sector 34548
> 
> Any info on this message would really help, I get so many of them, they
> just fill up the whole screen. Even the time I got past them, I still
> had them, just not as many. If it matters, I have a Pentium 100mhz 24
> RAM Linux Partition=225 megs and I am installing from a CD, which I
> purchased at linuxcentral.com
> 
>   Kenneth L. Smart
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Creating debian packages

[Kyle Amon]

Try...

man deb

and read all the SEE ALSO's too.  It's pretty simple really.  Maybe disect
a few odd .deb files first to get the lay of the land.  Also, I believe 
you need to have installed the deb package building tools as well since I
don't believe they are part of the base install.

- Kyle

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Wayne Cuddy wrote:

> I have just installed Debian Hamm so I am new to this distribution.  I
> have been a long time user of RedHat.  I was quite pleased with the
> book 'Maximum RPM' describing the packing building and usage of the
> RPM system.  Is there something similar for dpkg?  I downloaded
> something called the 'dpkg programmers manual' which I don't think I
> am the target audience for.  I would like the complete procedure for
> building binary and source .deb files.  A small sample walk-through
> would be nice.  If anyone can point me to this information or send me
> anything I would greatly appreciate it.
> 
> Wayne Cuddy
> CRB-WEB (C & H Consulting)
> http://www.crb-web.com
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> 
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RE: Debian Knowledge Base ?

[Hank Fay]

Well, wish and it shall be... or about to be.  Linux.org has a search engine
which will search all the relevant sources of information, it would appear.
It's not up yet; and I would hope that the Debian site would be included in
their searches.

http://www.linux.org/search/index.html

Hank

-Original Message-
From: Greg "Tower" Starkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 1998 8:06 AM
To: Hank Fay
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra;
phillip Neumann; Debian User
Subject: Re: Debian Knowledge Base ?


On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Hank Fay wrote:

> What I think would be helpful would be a Keyword search which then
provided
> the title and link for results; on the order of the  MSKB.  That
way,
> when you searched on kernel you'd come up with 'make-kpkg' in a couple of
> locations.  I responded to RMS on his article on the need for "free
> documentation" as well as "free software" (as the maillist is testament
to,
> it's darned hard to use the second without the first), and he suggested I
> write it (I knew this was a risk when writing him ).  Keywords of
"sound
> software" would bring up titles and links.

I'll second that. These searches could also be tied into the bug tracking
system as well.


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Re: linux laptop resources?

[Gary L. Hennigan]

"Richard E. Hawkins Esq." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| does anyone know of a mailing list or whathaveyou for linux & laptops?  
| there's some (probably) easy answers I need from folks who have
| already solved them, but i don't know where to look.
| 
| (such as, how to get a thinkpad to charge)

There is a laptop mailing list for Linux. It's address is

linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu

To subscribe to it send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the
single line in the body of the message

subscribe linux-laptop

I don't recall it being very high volume though. Worth a shot
I guess. 

For Thinkpads there's also:

http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux

Good Luck!
Gary

Re: Linux security

[Michele Bini]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:21:37 -0500, the lone gunman wrote:
> 
> >only to the Microsoft programmers.  In my mind, it just seems that the
> >more folks there are looking at code, the better the chances of
> >discovering bugs, security concerns, etc.
> 
> It is the glass half empty versus the glass half full problem.
> 
> He sees the glass half empty.  Open source means more people looking for
> security holes to *exploit*.
> 
> You see the glass half full.  Open source means more people looking for
> security holes to *plug*.
> 
> You're both correct.  Open Source means more people looking for security
> holes to exploit/plug.  ;)

IMHO the point is another: who do you trust more, Microsoft (a per-profit
dictatorship, which hides security problems to user but not to crackers)
or Debian (non-profit organization, which shows security problem and
fixes them, making life hard to crakers)?

Ciao
Michele

Re: new user needs help

[AJT60]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Brian D Kellogg wrote:

> hello,
> 
> I have the following problems after installing Debian.
> 
> 1.  I can't mount the cdrom.
>   i get this error--can't find /dev/hdc in /etc/mtab or /etc/fstab.  
>   It's a standard Atapi cdrom.

How are you trying to mount it? It sounds like you're typing 
mount /cdrom (or something similar), which won't work unless you have
information in /etc/fstab telling mount what the filesystem is, etc. 

try
mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt

where /mnt is an empty directory. I use /cdrom
if that works, put a line like

#
/dev/hdb/cdrom  iso9660;ATAPI (IDE)
CDROM
 
in your /fstab. (I copied this out of a post about setting up partitions,
and I think there's a column missing. do a man fstab to see what you need. 

then you should be able to mount /cdrom without problems. 
I forget what /etc/mtab is exactly. 

> 3.  I can't start x
>   i get this error--x: exec of /usr/bin/X11/XF86_NONE failed
> I have a notebook computer.  I know X will work on it because I used to
> have SUSE linux on it.

Have you run xf86config or XF86Setup? It sounds like you're X server
hasn't been configured. 

Andrew Tarr

"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate"
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Re: Driver for Intel Ether Express 10+

[Lee Bradshaw]

On Sat, Aug 15, 1998 at 10:23:35PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just installed Debian 2.0 but there is no driver for the
> Intel EtherExpress 10+ ISA card. Does anyone know
> where to get one?
> 
> --Greg

The last time I used an Intel EtherExpress card I had to turn on
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL (code maturity level options/prompt for development
drivers). With this on, I could pick the etherexpress driver in the
network section. Hope this will help you.

-- 
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Alantro Communications   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: new user needs help

[Darren Benham]

On 19-Aug-98 Brian D Kellogg wrote:
> 1.  I can't mount the cdrom.
>   i get this error--can't find /dev/hdc in /etc/mtab or /etc/fstab.  
>   It's a standard Atapi cdrom.
try mount /dev/hdc /cdrom

> 
> 2.  command make menuconfig doesn't work.
>   i get error--no rule to make target.
where are you when you run make menuconfig?

Oh.. and it looks like you have some remenants of SuSE in your X Config.. and
/usr/X11R6/bin is set as a link that eventually resolves itself to *_NONE...
I'm not sure (yet) how debian resolves the XServers.

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Re: new user needs help

[Robert Ramiega]

On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 06:12:31PM -0400, Brian D Kellogg wrote:
> hello,
> 
> I have the following problems after installing Debian.
> 
> 1.  I can't mount the cdrom.
>   i get this error--can't find /dev/hdc in /etc/mtab or /etc/fstab.  
>   It's a standard Atapi cdrom.
 issue
mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/hdb /cdrom
(i assume that CD-ROM is slave on first IDE BUS) or correct entry in
/etc/fstab to read soemthing like:
/dev/hdb/cdrom  iso9660 noauto
> 
> 2.  command make menuconfig doesn't work.
>   i get error--no rule to make target.
hmm... You are in directory with kernel sources, aren't you? (most often
/usr/src/linux)
> 
> 3.  I can't start x
>   i get this error--x: exec of /usr/bin/X11/XF86_NONE failed
 This would indicate that either You didn't install any X Server package or
You didn't configure installed one.

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Re: debian 1.2 or 1.3

[David Stern]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:13:43 CDT, "Alan Maciel Salcedo." wrote:
> 
> Anyone have the debian 1.3 base disk set or the 1.2
> or anyone knows where to get it?
> 
> thanx.


http://www.debian.org  says
---
Old versions of Debian
 Debian 1.3 (codenamed bo) can be found at
 ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/debian/dists/bo/. 


So, I click on the link, and then go to bo/disks-i386 and what do you 
know!

-- 

new user needs help

[Brian D Kellogg]

hello,

I have the following problems after installing Debian.

1.  I can't mount the cdrom.
i get this error--can't find /dev/hdc in /etc/mtab or /etc/fstab.  
It's a standard Atapi cdrom.

2.  command make menuconfig doesn't work.
i get error--no rule to make target.

3.  I can't start x
i get this error--x: exec of /usr/bin/X11/XF86_NONE failed
I have a notebook computer.  I know X will work on it because I used to
have SUSE linux on it.

Could someone shed some light on my ignorence.

thanx,

Brian
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Creating debian packages

[Wayne Cuddy]

I have just installed Debian Hamm so I am new to this distribution.  I
have been a long time user of RedHat.  I was quite pleased with the
book 'Maximum RPM' describing the packing building and usage of the
RPM system.  Is there something similar for dpkg?  I downloaded
something called the 'dpkg programmers manual' which I don't think I
am the target audience for.  I would like the complete procedure for
building binary and source .deb files.  A small sample walk-through
would be nice.  If anyone can point me to this information or send me
anything I would greatly appreciate it.

Wayne Cuddy
CRB-WEB (C & H Consulting)
http://www.crb-web.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Little/Big endian discussion (was: Re: can I burn the output of mpg123 -s?)

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Stephen A. Witt wrote:

[ snip network vs. host order discussion ]

[ I wrote ]

 : > I'm coming into this late, and perhaps under-armed ... but no, I don't
 : > understand.  Network order == big-endian ... so on little-endian
 : > machines htons(), htonl() et. do actually perform a conversion.  On a
 : > big-endian system, no conversion is necessary because network order ==
 : > host order on these machines.  

[ Steve wrote ]

 : wrong.  The htons(), htonl(), etc. routines should ALWAYS be used
 : regardless of whether they are needed (little endian) or not (big endian). 
 : This is just good software engineering practice. Anyone making this kind
 : of mistake will not be looked upon favorably by the other members of their
 : software development team are will likely receive a sharp retort.

Bummer; as I re-read my email I see that I didn't express myself well at
all.  I agree that systems exchanging information should always use the
routines in question (even though I didn't explicitly state that) ... my
point about "no conversion necessary" was in response to Steve
Carpenter's assertion that the functions "did nothing" on big-endian
machines.  Even though the functions do nothing, they should still be
used for portability.

Sorry about that!

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fixing my host name!

[the lone gunman]

Several of my emails are getting returned by the intended receiever's
ISP.  The emails are returned with "invalid hostname" -- *my*
hostname.  Since I am currently only using PPP to connect to the 'net,
I have a bogus hostname.

I believe, though, that some mailers reject my name because of spam
filters or whatever.  At any rate, what should I change my hostname to
(and how) so that it appears okay for strict mail systems?  My ISP IP
is dynamic, so I can't use that (those?).

Help!
Thanks.

linux laptop resources?

[Richard E. Hawkins Esq.]

does anyone know of a mailing list or whathaveyou for linux & laptops?  
there's some (probably) easy answers I need from folks who have already solved 
them, but i don't know where to look.

(such as, how to get a thinkpad to charge)

rick

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Re: win98/hamm dual boot problem

[Robert Wilderspin]

On 19 Aug 98 13:39:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Following instructions I found on this list some time ago, I installed
>hamm and win98 separately: each have their own drive - only one was
>hooked up at a time.  Than, I put both drives in:  Linux as hda and win
>as hdb.  THis was nothing new for linux, so I started up linux and ran
>lilo with the following lilo.conf:
>
>boot=/dev/hda1
>delay=50
>image=/vmlinuz
>  root=/dev/hda1
>  label=linux
>  read-only
>other=/dev/hdb1
>  label=win
>  table=/dev/hdb
>
>linux boots well via lilo now, but windows doesn't boot at all:  after
>typing "win" at LILO:, it just hangs.  Any ideas at all would be very
>much appreciated.

When you installed Win98 it put itself on the C: drive (hda1), and
you've now placed another disk in that position.  Problem is, Windows
still thinks it should be on hda1, and is getting confused.  As far as
I know, Win95/98 will not boot from the secondary IDE channel.

I would suggest swapping the drives aroung again, and re-installing
LILO onto hda (change the parameters in lilo.conf beforehand).  Linux
is less picky about which drive you stick it on, or even if you move
it after installation.


Rob Wilderspin
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reboots are the only chance I get to sleep..."
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Re: big file problem

[Robert Wilderspin]

On 19 Aug 98 16:51:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi All, 
>today I have changed the harddisk on my PC from 1.1G to ~4G WD
>Caviar 24300.  I was quite happy when I have got running system by simply
>'cp from_old_disk to_new_disk'. Everything was fine until I tried to work
>with big files (~400M). First I used 'dd' to make copy but system hungs at
>some point. Then I decided to use 'cp' and I got a lot of horrible
>messages about disk errors. As I remember, during 'mkfs.ext2 -c /dev/hdx'
>there was only "read only testing". Is there any way to do read/write
>test? Or, may there are other idea about this problem?

The best way I know to perform a direct copy of one disk to another is
the following:

cd /
find . -xdev -print | cpio -padm /mnt

Where you're copying everything from the root filesystem downwards,
including mount points (but not their contents), onto a filesystem
mounted at /mnt.

I hope that this helps you.


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Re: Linux security

[the lone gunman]

On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 11:42:25AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:21:37 -0500, the lone gunman wrote:
> 
> >only to the Microsoft programmers.  In my mind, it just seems that the
> >more folks there are looking at code, the better the chances of
> >discovering bugs, security concerns, etc.
> 
> It is the glass half empty versus the glass half full problem.
> 
> He sees the glass half empty.  Open source means more people looking for
> security holes to *exploit*.
> 
> You see the glass half full.  Open source means more people looking for
> security holes to *plug*.

I think the linux community can boast that it fixes exploits pretty
quickly.  Although exploits may be easier to discover with open
source, they are arguably easier to fix.

Perhaps it's harder to find the exploits in closed source
(i.e. Windows), but once the exploit is discovered, Microsoft must be
relied on to fix the problem (for the most part).

Re: xv package for deb?

[Gary L. Hennigan]

the lone gunman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Is there an xv package for debian?  By xv, I mean the "XView" program
| by John Bradley.
| 
| When migrating from Debian 1.3 to 2.0, I just backed up the important
| stuff, and did a total reinstall.  (Too many upgrade problems posted
| to this mailing list scared me :).  Anyway, I had xv on my Deb 1.3
| system, and I believe I had to get the source and apply a patch to get
| xv for my system.  Does anyone know where these files are?  I did a
| search for "xv" in the packages list on Debian's website and nothing
| came up.
| 
| Any hints?

That search engine must not be complete. You're the second person who
couldn't find a package in non-free via the web page. Look in
/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/graphics. It's in the
package xv_3.10a-16.deb

Gary

Re: xv package for deb?

[Shaleh]

XV lives in non-free -- it is shareware.

the lone gunman wrote:
> 
> Is there an xv package for debian?  By xv, I mean the "XView" program
> by John Bradley.
> 
> When migrating from Debian 1.3 to 2.0, I just backed up the important
> stuff, and did a total reinstall.  (Too many upgrade problems posted
> to this mailing list scared me :).  Anyway, I had xv on my Deb 1.3
> system, and I believe I had to get the source and apply a patch to get
> xv for my system.  Does anyone know where these files are?  I did a
> search for "xv" in the packages list on Debian's website and nothing
> came up.
> 
> Any hints?
> 
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Re: Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff]

[the lone gunman]

On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 01:02:14PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Michele Bini hat gesagt: // Michele Bini wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:37:15 PDT , phillip Neumann  said:
> Unfortunatley SLab refuses to work with my old and dusty Mozart soundcard, 
> so I can't say anything regarding its functionality.

I've installed it, but didn't really get anywhere with it.  To do what
I really want it to do, anyway, I'd need to buy the full duplex
drivers for my SoundBlaster AWE32.

My question: has anyone used the SB AWE32 with slab and had good
results?

Thanks!

xv package for deb?

[the lone gunman]

Is there an xv package for debian?  By xv, I mean the "XView" program
by John Bradley.

When migrating from Debian 1.3 to 2.0, I just backed up the important
stuff, and did a total reinstall.  (Too many upgrade problems posted
to this mailing list scared me :).  Anyway, I had xv on my Deb 1.3
system, and I believe I had to get the source and apply a patch to get
xv for my system.  Does anyone know where these files are?  I did a
search for "xv" in the packages list on Debian's website and nothing
came up.

Any hints?

RE: win98/hamm dual boot problem

[Bob McGowan]

On Wed 19 Aug 1998, Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Following instructions I found on this list some time ago, I installed
> hamm and win98 separately: each have their own drive - only one was
> hooked up at a time.  Than, I put both drives in:  Linux as hda and
win
> as hdb.  THis was nothing new for linux, so I started up linux and ran
> lilo with the following lilo.conf:
>

If I read this correctly, you have done the following:

1.  Installed Linux on a drive that is seen by the BIOS as drive C.
2.  "Removed" this drive and replaced it with another.
3.  This new drive, also seen by the BIOS as drive C, has Win98
installed.
4.  You set this second drive to be the second (changing its
address)
and replaced the Linux drive so it is the first.
5.  This means the Linux drive is seen as C and the Win98 as D.

If this is true, then it may be that your Win98 is failing because the
"addressing" is wrong for where it is installed.  It expects to be on
the
first drive but isn't.

You could try re-installing the Win98 to the second drive (maybe you
want to
nuke the existing Win98 partition so it doesn't think you are trying to
do
an upgrade) and let it handle the MBR on the first disk (note I am not
too
experienced with the Win95/98 way of doing things - this would work for
WinNT
no problem).  Then redo the lilo.conf (you should have a Linux boot disk
before
this, just to be sure you can get back to your Linux installation).

There is a How-To for setting up a dual boot for WinNT/Linux (using the
NT
boot loader) which may be helpful in your situation.  I do not have the
URL for
it but I found it in a search of the mailing list archives (look for
'dual
boot').  The NT details may or may not be useful but the over all
discussion
is very good.

Hope this helps ;-)

---
Bob McGowan
i'm:  bob dot mcgowan at artecon dot com

Re: Runaway X

[Michele Bini]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Hersh, Harry wrote:

> Debian 2.0 installed on my machine amazingly easy, including ppp
> connectivity. However, now that I'm trying to get X up, things have
> bogged down.  In trying to debug XF86Config, my system is caught in an
> endless loop it cannot get out of. The problem is that xdm somehow is in
> the boot sequence and now I can't shut it off. Ctrl/Alt/BS kills the
> server, but it immediately comes back up. I've tried rebooting with the
> boot floppy and the rescue floppy, but as soon as the file system is
> mounted and fsck'ed, the disfunctional X comes right back. 
If you use lilo you can, at the lilo prompt (keep the caps lock on during
the boot to see it), type "linux single", so that starts in single-user
mode (and do not start X).

Ciao
Michele

Re: [2] Libforms?

[Michele Bini]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, phillip Neumann wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> Well i know that inside libforms88 is the lib libforms.so.0.88. I have 
> already install this package. Thats why i found it curious. The file 
> libforms.so.0.88 is in my /usr/X11R6/libdirectory.
> What is happening? Why cant `DAP' find this lib?
> 
> (DAP said: can't load library 'libforms.so.0.88')
Have you already tried ldconfig?

Ciao
Michele

Re: win98/hamm dual boot problem

[Shaya Potter]

On Wed 19 Aug 1998, Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> Following instructions I found on this list some time ago, I installed
> hamm and win98 separately: each have their own drive - only one was
> hooked up at a time.  Than, I put both drives in:  Linux as hda and win
> as hdb.  THis was nothing new for linux, so I started up linux and ran
> lilo with the following lilo.conf:
> 

I can't help with this setup exactly, but I can give a tip I have discovered 
with debian about having them both (at least win95, and no reason why it 
shouldn't work with win98) on the same drive.  I don't use lilo as the mbr, I 
just use Debian's mbr program, I also don't have lilo started automatically.  
I put win95 on the first partition and linux on the second.  Since lilo 
doesn't start automatically at all (never runs), I always boot into win95 w/o 
a problem. If I want to boot into linux, I press the shift key during bootup, 
this causes the mbr to print out a veyr brief and mysterious prompt: like 
1AF:
I press A, (for all partitions I guess?) which puts out a prompt like
1234F:
I then press 2 (for the second, i.e. linux partition), this then execs lilo.  
With this method, I can always make my kernels using make bzlilo and also gain 
the advantage of not annoying my mother and sisters in having to boot through 
lilo.

Shaya

Re: Samba passwords

[peloy]

Hi,

Brian Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone know how to set a Samba user password to NONE, if a password
> already exists?  I've tried smbpasswd [user] and hit return twice, only
> to find that "Samba password not changed." 

Well, firstly, are you using password encryption? If you are, then
passwords are stored in /etc/smbpasswd and you need to fill that file
with valid account names and passwords (hint: use smbpasswd -a
).

If not, then the security depends on the setting of the "security ="
parameter in /etc/smb.conf.

Recommended readings are: /usr/doc/samba/{ENCRYPTION.txt,security_level.txt}

Finally, Samba by default does not allow acces to accounts that have
null passwords. To change this add this to the [global] section of
/etc/smb.conf:

null passwords = yes

See man smb.conf for more info.

Regards,

peloy.-

Re: Linux security

[Steve Lamb]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:21:37 -0500, the lone gunman wrote:

>only to the Microsoft programmers.  In my mind, it just seems that the
>more folks there are looking at code, the better the chances of
>discovering bugs, security concerns, etc.

It is the glass half empty versus the glass half full problem.

He sees the glass half empty.  Open source means more people looking for
security holes to *exploit*.

You see the glass half full.  Open source means more people looking for
security holes to *plug*.

You're both correct.  Open Source means more people looking for security
holes to exploit/plug.  ;)


-- 
 Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my
http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's.  They hired me for my
 ICQ: 5107343  | skills and labor, not my opinions!
---+-

Re: Connection Refused

[Paul McDermott]

Hello you need the following package:
Package: netstd
Version: 3.07-2
Priority: standard
Section: net
Maintainer: Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pre-Depends: netbase (>=3.00), libc6, libreadlineg2 (>= 2.1-4),
libstdc++2.8 (>=2.90.26-1), ncurses3.4
Suggests: wu-ftpd, mail-transport-agent
Replaces: pftp (<<0.7.6-1), wu-ftpd, wu-ftpd-academ
Architecture: i386
Filename: dists/stable/main/binary-i386/net/netstd_3.07-2.deb
Size: 611710
MD5sum: b080885426b364a6c0a9009db621c769
Description: Networking binaries and daemons for Linux
 The netstd package provides you with the standard networking services
 (server and clients).  This includes services like ftp, telnet, nfs,
 pcnfsd, bootp, tftp, finger, rsh, rlogin and others.
installed-size: 1302
Hope this helps
Paul

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Kennedy Mutio wrote:

> I have just installed debian linux onto a machine and added it to my
> network but I cannot telnet frm any other machine on the network to this
> new machine. I have checked the hosts.allow and hosts.deny files in /etc
> and changed them. I might have done this wrong but does anyone know what
> else I should change/configure?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ken.
> 
> 
> 
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> 

Re: Linux security

[the lone gunman]

On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 11:46:43AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was having a discussion with my ISP about Linux.  He said he uses
> Windows NT because it is much more secure than Linux.  He stated
> that since the source code was available that it was very unsecure.

I have trouble with this statement.  It seems to me, with the source
code open and available, *anyone* can take a gander at Linux's
source.  Naturally, hundreds of people can see where there are
potential security holes in the code.  All Windows systems are limited
only to the Microsoft programmers.  In my mind, it just seems that the
more folks there are looking at code, the better the chances of
discovering bugs, security concerns, etc.

> He mentioned something about attaining root access by downloading
> /etc/passwd and de-crypting the passwords.  He bases this on a

The only sensible way to run a multi-user Linux system (e.g., an ISP),
is with shadow passwords.  *Only* root can read the shadow password
file (/etc/shadow).  By the time the root account is compromised,
/etc/shadow really doesn't mean much.

I wouldn't put too much confidence in the person with whom you spoke
at your ISP.

Gook luck!

Re: Connection Refused

[Kennedy Mutio]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, George Bonser wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Kennedy Mutio wrote:
> 
> > I have just installed debian linux onto a machine and added it to my
> > network but I cannot telnet frm any other machine on the network to this
> > new machine. I have checked the hosts.allow and hosts.deny files in /etc
> > and changed them. I might have done this wrong but does anyone know what
> > else I should change/configure?
> > 
> 
> What do your hosts.deny and hosts.allow files look like? Is there a reason
> for dropping the connection in /var/log/daemon.log?
> 
> 
> George Bonser
> 
> The Linux "We're never going out of business" sale at an FTP site near you!
> 
> 
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My hosts.allow file reads (after the intro/example)
ALL: .earlham.edu

My hosts.deny file reads (after the intro/examples)
#ALL: PARANOID

An exerpt from var/log/daemon.log reads as follows

pascal kerneld: started, pid=108, qid=0
pascal init: Switching to runlevel: 6
pascal cardmgr[98]: starting, version is 3.0.0
pascal cardmgr[98]: no sockets found!
pascal cardmgr[98]: exiting

I hope this is helpful. Please ask any questions that would help you help
me.

Thanks,

Ken.

Re: Connection Refused

[detre]

I don't think that telnetd is installed in the base(diskette) version.

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Simon Holgate wrote:

> Actually I have this problem too, so I'm glad someone else brought it
> up. I followed the Net-3-HOWTO and I can ping localhost (and other
> machines on the network). I can telnet/ftp to other machines on the
> network but not from other machines to my host. Nor can I telnet
> localhost. I have deleted everything from hosts.deny and I have the
> line:
> ALL: localhost magnux.seos.uvic.ca #the domain name of my host
> in the hosts.allow file (I aalso tried removing the file altogether to
> see if that made a difference)
> 
> By the way, at present I only have the base (diskette) installation.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>   Simon
> 
> -- 
> 
> Simon Holgate,Tel: (+1) (250) 721 6080
> Centre for Earth and Ocean Research,(FAX) 721 6200 
> University of Victoria,
> P.O. Box 3055,   E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Victoria, B.C.  
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Connection Refused

[Simon Holgate]

Actually I have this problem too, so I'm glad someone else brought it
up. I followed the Net-3-HOWTO and I can ping localhost (and other
machines on the network). I can telnet/ftp to other machines on the
network but not from other machines to my host. Nor can I telnet
localhost. I have deleted everything from hosts.deny and I have the
line:
ALL: localhost magnux.seos.uvic.ca #the domain name of my host
in the hosts.allow file (I aalso tried removing the file altogether to
see if that made a difference)

By the way, at present I only have the base (diskette) installation.

Cheers,

Simon

-- 

Simon Holgate,Tel: (+1) (250) 721 6080
Centre for Earth and Ocean Research,(FAX) 721 6200 
University of Victoria,
P.O. Box 3055,   E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Victoria, B.C.  
CANADA. V8W 3P6 http://george.seos.uvic.ca/people/simon/simon.html

Re: Samba passwords

[Kyle Amon]

RTFM... /usr/doc/samba/ENCRYPTION.txt.gz

- Kyle

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Brian Morgan wrote:

> Does anyone know how to set a Samba user password to NONE, if a password
> already exists?  I've tried smbpasswd [user] and hit return twice, only
> to find that "Samba password not changed."  I've also tried modifying
> the /etc/samba/debian_config file to
> "password set = no," and it still requires my previous password.
> Anything else I can do to eliminate the Samba password?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian Morgan
> --
> Brian Morgan[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Computer Service Specialist  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Greenville College  http://www.gvc.net/~jedi
> 
>  
> "El Nino shot JFK"
> 
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Security Specialist   pager: 1-800-759- PIN 1616512
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  The GNU Manifesto, 1985

Re: Linux security

[Richard E. Hawkins Esq.]

Stephen wrote,

> At work we have a setup like this...it "requires" that you "log in"
> to even use the computer.
> If you hit cancel (or esc) it denies acess...but...
> hit alt-esc and presto
> the login screen is still there but the task manager comes up...
> then you merrily goto "file->run"
> and run explorerbang...startr menu...works...fully acessable
> and to add insult to injury... the login screen is STILL THERE=20
> waitin gfor you to login while you do your nasty deeds=20

Years ago, I took over development of an application by a startup company.  
Upon launching, it asked the user for his security level . . .  and believed 
him. 
-- 
These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer.

Connection Refused

[Kennedy Mutio]

I have just installed debian linux onto a machine and added it to my
network but I cannot telnet frm any other machine on the network to this
new machine. I have checked the hosts.allow and hosts.deny files in /etc
and changed them. I might have done this wrong but does anyone know what
else I should change/configure?

Thanks,

Ken.

Re: Runaway X

[Brian Sheehan]

>Debian 2.0 installed on my machine amazingly easy, including ppp
>connectivity. However, now that I'm trying to get X up, things have
>bogged down.  In trying to debug XF86Config, my system is caught in> an
>endless loop it cannot get out of. The problem is that xdm somehow is in
>the boot sequence and now I can't shut it off. Ctrl/Alt/BS kills the
>server, but it immediately comes back up. I've tried rebooting with the
>boot floppy and the rescue floppy, but as soon as the file system is
>mounted and fsck'ed, the disfunctional X comes right back. 

I had exactly the same problem.

>How can I get out of this endless loop so I can fix XF86Config? This is
>a stand-alone machine, so it cannot be remotedly accessed. 

what I did was boot the machine with the CD I used for the installation.
Once this boots up, you're are able to switch to the second virtual
console with alt-F2. Once you do this you are root. Then I mounted my
root partition, and I was able edit the /etc/rc?.d directories and take
out XDM from the bootup. Probably not the right way to do things but I
don't really need XDM anyway. After that, I umounted the root partition,
took out the installation CD and booted with my normal boot floppy.

>Once I can stop the looping, I can start figuring out why the server
>only comes up in 340x200 mode and why /dev/psaux doesn't work as a
>Microsoft mouse port.

I'm suffering the same problem here aswell - so if you have any luck be
sure and mail me.

Brian Sheehan
>Thanks,

>Harry Hersh

Re: Linux and Security

[Kyle Amon]

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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Joey Hess wrote:

> George Bonser wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> > 
> > > Okay, true, but it was more of a feasability question, "if you can get the
> > > string, is it possible to use the following method to decrypt it??"
> > 
> > Sure ... the login program has to decrypt it, doesn't it? You can
> > cut/paste passwd entries between linux systems ... the encrypted password
> > is not system-specific.
> 
> No, it's not reversable. There is no way to get the original password from
> the data in the shadow password file.
> 
> Login simply takes the password the user enters, encrypts it using crypt(), 
> and compares it with that's in the password file. No decryption is done.

Actually a one way hash is used, not encryption.  This is why it is not
possible to decrypt it -- it quite simply is not encrypted in the first
place.

- - Kyle

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Fetchmail and multidrop mailboxes

[Rafael Cordones Marcos]

Hi guys! 

First time here. I have been reding you quite a long though.

I have a domain which is "bcnartdirecte.com" and all mail directed to

 "anything"@bcnartdirecte.com 

gets redirected to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is the only "real"
mailbox I have. 

At home/office we have 2 computers, one with Linux and the othe with
Win95. I have configured the Netscape on Win95 to deliver and get email
from my Linux box. It works now after modifying the hosts.allow file.

My linux box is called lazlo and I assigned it 192.168.1.1 and the
WinTel box 192.168.1.2.

My fetchmailrc file looks like:

-
defaults
envelope "To:"

poll pop3.redestb.es protocol POP3:
no dns, aka lazlo lazlo.bcnartdirecte.com bcnartdirecte.com
user bcnartdirecte with password ** 
to rafacm info here
-

One thing I have seen is that only the last "Received:" field
(see e-mail at the end) contains the fake address in the 
bcnartdirecte.com
domain in the "for" subfield. All the next "Received:" fields contain
the real [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox. I set up an account
on a free e-mail service to try the good reception and delivery of
e-mails originating on my local net (1 Linux and 1 Win95). 

I have tried with "envelope "To:"" in fetchmailrc and it works.
But when reciving
emails with my address in the "cc:" or "bcc:" fields I fear my emails
will get bounced. Also when I receive an email addressed to more than
one address in the bcnartdirecte.com domain I get more than one copy
of it. For instance, I got 2 copies of the e-mail at the end of this 
post. This I think I know why it happens.

I also have problems with reciving this list because the "To:" field
contains "debian-user@lists.debian.org"

So my question is: What's the good way of doing this?

SORRY, for this long post but I am to the neck with this.


Rafa


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Re: Little/Big endian discussion (was: Re: can I burn the output of mpg123 -s?)

[Stephen A. Witt]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote:
> 
>  : On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 10:54:52AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>  : > On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 08:46:20AM -0400, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote:
>  : > > currently xfstt bombs out if it gets a connection of a differnt 
>  : > > "endianess" than the system it is on...I have been meaning to fix that 
> but
>  : > > maybe the PowerPC may have an easier fix...
>  : > > nah...ill just look into fixing it "right"
>  : > 
>  : > Ouch.. use htons(), htonl(), ntohs(), ntohl() to convert; you don't
>  : > have to know what endianness the machine is you're using, you rely
>  : > on libc knowing and implementing those functions appropriately.
>  : 
>  : well...
>  : thats the problem...
>  : htons et al are empty functions on big-endian systems and thge situation
>  : actually requires they perform the swap because in this case endian-ness
>  : matters and sending it in "Network order" is NOT apropriate unless
>  : "Network Order" is the same as host order on the client.
>  : 
>  : see teh problem?
>  : if the other side doesn't ntoh the data then it doesn't work ;)
> 
> I'm coming into this late, and perhaps under-armed ... but no, I don't
> understand.  Network order == big-endian ... so on little-endian
> machines htons(), htonl() et. do actually perform a conversion.  On a
> big-endian system, no conversion is necessary because network order ==
> host order on these machines.  
> 
> This way, every host is transferring information in network order, so
> everyone's happy.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> 

No, you have correctly stated the network byte order rules. 

But, there is a more subtle point here.  As Hamish Moffatt pointed out a
couple of msgs previously in this thread, good software engineering
practice is to use the endian conversion routines regardless of the CPU
architecture and depend upon the development environment to perform the
conversion or be null or whatever.  This is the source of simple (but
deadly) bugs that are just unnecessary.  Among other things, I write
networking protocol software for 68K CPUs, SPARC CPUs, PowerPC CPUs, and
Intel CPUs (and who knows what CPU in the future). We do a lot of
socket-based communications and I want to write reuseable code that is as
architecture independent as possible.  I don't want to worry about which
CPU a particular piece of code is for and I want to minimize as much as
possible the amount of code that is necessary to account for CPU
architecture differences.  We can't afford the time (or frustration) of
tracking down a bug that is as silly as getting the network byte order
wrong.  The htons(), htonl(), etc. routines should ALWAYS be used
regardless of whether they are needed (little endian) or not (big endian). 
This is just good software engineering practice. Anyone making this kind
of mistake will not be looked upon favorably by the other members of their
software development team are will likely receive a sharp retort.

adbbs

[detre]

Does anyone use adbbs? I installed it and it runs fine except that all of
the variables aren't resolved 
here's an example:



%5aD%9!%5BBS 3%%13.%50
 %6The Next Generation In UNIX BBS's
 Brought to you by the aD%9!%6 Project
   %5(%6formerly  known as aD%9!%6 Data Systems%5)%6
   http:%5//%6www.netropolis.net%5/%6aD%5/  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


%6Do You Wish To Skip The Welcome Screens ? %5(%6Y%5/%6N%5)%9

User Exit, Have a Nice Day



I don't know perl at all so I couldn't look and see what was going on.
Please help.


Thanks,
Tod Detre

[2] Libforms?

[phillip Neumann]

Hi,


Well i know that inside libforms88 is the lib libforms.so.0.88. I have 
already install this package. Thats why i found it curious. The file 
libforms.so.0.88 is in my /usr/X11R6/libdirectory.
What is happening? Why cant `DAP' find this lib?

(DAP said: can't load library 'libforms.so.0.88')


Thanks, Phillip
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Re: Apt how, why, where

[Stephen J. Carpenter]

On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 11:14:37AM -0500, Mark Panzer wrote:
> Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > 
> > Mark Panzer wrote:
> > >
> > > Question,
> > >
> > > Apt is supposed to be a better replacement for dselect/dpkg right?  Can
> > > you install it on a HAMM system, and if so how?  I guess I kinda got
> > > left behind on the Apt thing.  Does Apt use the same .deb's as dselect?
> > > Also what is the proper way to compile and install a kernel in debian?
> > > I've heard make kpkg instead of make zlilo and other makeables.  Sorry
> > > for all the questions. Thanks.
> > >
> > > Mark Panzer
> > >
> > Apt is a replacement for dselect, not dpkg.  It is front-end to 
> > dpkg,
> > so the '.deb' packaging scheme is the same.  It currently has only a
> > command-line interface.  However it also installs itself as a 'access'
> > method under dselect.  dselect/apt is better than dselect/ftp.
> > 'make-kpkg' is supposed to be the Debian Way(TM), although, being 
> > lazy,
> > I still go the old zlilo/zImage route.
> > 
> If you make the zlilo will it "break" your system, by confusing dselect.
> Or is this an exceptable practice?  

Well I will admit... at first I hated make-kpkg so I rea dthe docs and...
NO doing the make by hand and installing the kernel should not
break ANYTHING (unless you do it wrong ;) then it could break
EVERYTHING ;) )

I never did a make zlilo...I alwas used to make zImage and then do the
rest of the install by hand. I did ONCE try zlilo I think...and it 
used some braindead defaults which required my fixing.

The only problem with NOT using make-kpkg is that dpkg doesn't know
that you upgraded...as far as it knows you have some other kernel.
This means that if some program depends on a certain kernel version
you may need to force the depends...
of course there is always that package which lets you override the system
by makeing a dummy package...

btw speaking of hateing make-kpkg... I was wrong...
man it is GREAT! It works so well and works every time for me.
and its really nice to know I have a backup kernel + modules "just in case"

> I think it would be a good idea to
> have the "Debian Linux Kernel Compiling HOWTO" since everyone who wants
> sound has to recompile.

I didn't have to...then again...I payed for OSS/Linux

>  Also if you select modules (suppose I have to
> if I get a PnP card) will it compile all the drivers not selected in
> make [menu/x/config] into modules so you can use them or do you still
> have to select the ones you want in make?

if you want it to make the module you MUST select it in the config as a
module

> It would be kinda cool if you
> could just make a tiny kernel with only HDD support (and network) and
> then insmod or use kdeamon to put all the modules in, also if you added
> more hardware later you could just insmod that driver for it and not
> have to recompile. 

well whatever floats your boat really
I tend to compile everything I need into the kernel...
in fact if it wasn't fo rthe fact I needed BOTH ppa and lp my kernel would 
really be monolithic (well...except for OSS/Linux...but since the newer
2.1.x kernels have AudioPCI support, and I got a serial printer...
I may soon be able to have a truely monolithic kernel)

of course recently I did compile a completely monolithic kernel (without
even loadable module support) ...and I did it without kernel-package...
but it was for an XTerminal which was NFS-rooting

> (gee I think I'd like to delete that Win95 partition
> too bad I need Word for school).

nah...get staroffice ;)
-Steve
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Re: identd

[Joe]

Ridiculous is more what I'd call it.  You'll not be able to tell the
differernce if it complies to the RFC standard anyway, so save
your breath.



On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote:
> 
> > This mail will be forwarded to all IRC operator lists and all sites using
> > such identd will be K:-lined.
> 
> hey that's not very nice.  Besides, it appears that changing the ident is
> not possible without other account names, etc.  So if the users want
> multiple bots, they'll need to pay for it.  I, personally, don't know
> anything about bots...
> 
> -Paul
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in
> the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Samba passwords

[Brian Morgan]

Does anyone know how to set a Samba user password to NONE, if a password
already exists?  I've tried smbpasswd [user] and hit return twice, only
to find that "Samba password not changed."  I've also tried modifying
the /etc/samba/debian_config file to
"password set = no," and it still requires my previous password.
Anything else I can do to eliminate the Samba password?

Thanks,

Brian Morgan
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Re: OFF-TOPIC (How do you guys sort your mail?)

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"Richard" == Richard L Alhama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Richard> On 19 Aug 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 >> It is possible to extend the mailagent filtering commands by
 >> implementing them in perl and then having them automagically loaded
 >> when used.

 Richard> Thanks.

 Richard> Does mailagent use some kind of rc-file (rules?) like
 Richard> procmail?  Or do I have to write some perl program/module?

Yes, no, and not unless you want to. Even without enabling the
 generic command server and the @SH processing, the rules file for
 mailagent is a full fledged state machines, and one can apply the
 rules recursively, and the actio is idfferent depending on what state
 on is in.

I can send the mailagent man pages and example setup (included
 in the mailagent.deb), if anyone wishes. Also, mailagent shall not
 interfere with anything, and affect nothing (including your MTA)
 unless you actively edit files and configure it; so you can safely
 try installing it on your system.

manoj
 who wonders what his signature means
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Re: Problems with debian-user-digest?

[Mike Miller]

> "Gary" == Gary L Hennigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I haven't received anything from the digest version of this
> list in about 6 days. 

I've had the same problem - haven't received anything from either
debian-user-digest or debian-devel-digest since Aug 13.  I've
asked the listmaster about it and will follow up here when I hear
back. 

Mike

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  Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

Re: CDE

[Stephen J. Carpenter]

On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 10:57:47PM +0800, Richard L. Alhama wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Joe Stewart wrote:
> 
> > Chris, Try xfce .  It
> > does include the window manager xfwm, but does not require it. It is a
> > toolbar which resembles cde.  The binaries are in rpm.  Just run alien on
> > them and install with dpkg.
> > 
> > Hope this helped.
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Christopher Wesneski wrote:
> > 
> > > Is there a window manager for debian similar (if not the same as) to
> > > CDE? The closest one I can find is Openlook Virtual but I would rather
> > > not use it.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> 
> or FVWMCDE.  No debianized package for this.  And the server is located in
> here in the Philippines which may take some time to d/l.

hmm sounds cool...

> http://lilith.mozcom.com/~orly

um...is this the right url?
I checked there...all I found was no files and a single directory "admin"
which brings up a web based admin page for what looks like handling acounts
on the server...but um...all password protected.

I tried the root of the server...still nuthin.,...just about 10 lines of text 
and links off to other places.

-Steve
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Re: Designing a Linux lab.

[Liran Zvibel]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra wrote:
> 
> > Liran Zvibel wrote:
> > I think there's a diskless mini-HOWTO at http://sunsite.unc.edu./LDP/
> > and a xterminal tutorial at
> > http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta/unix/xterminal/index.html or something
> > like that
> 
> I didn't mean diskless, I meant automatic installation, when all of the
> details are taken from a file/server/etc..
> 
Just adding: I'm not even sure whether I want it to be X based (students
will be able to start X by startx. I just want the installation and most of
the configuration to be automatic (of course I'll have to supply hostname
and ip number, but I don't want to supply more then that. The
configuration of ethernet (they're all the same), other hardware and
software should be done automatically) -- so after I finish making it I
can give the inst. disk to almost everybody and he'll be able to install
it.

Moreover, I want to be able to change upgrade this lab the same way. (If
it was so easy, I wouldn't have to ask you for the solution...) (I can fix
that by putting /usr on our RAID, but I want the students to work
locally)

I hope I'm clear now.

TIA,
Liran.

debian 1.2 or 1.3

[Alan Maciel Salcedo.]

Anyone have the debian 1.3 base disk set or the 1.2
or anyone knows where to get it?

thanx.


Alan Maciel 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Apt how, why, where

[Gary L. Hennigan]

Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Hi,
| >>"E" == E L Meijer \(Eric\)  writes:
| 
|  E> Being lazy myself, I have a feature request on behalf of all the (lazy)
|  E> loadlin users.  Would it be possible to have the newly created
|  E> kernel-image package offer the option of copying the kernel to the
|  E> place loadlin expects it in your setup?  I would figure that
|  E> kernel-package_...deb could ask if there is a standard
|  E> `loadlin-kernel-directory', and store that in its configuration files.
|  E> Of course it should rename old kernels using some intelligent renaming
|  E> scheme (vmlinuz.1, vmlinuz.2, ...).
| 
|   Is it really that bad doing a 
|  # cp /vmlinuz /place/to/keep/images
|  ? The reason I have not done so is that some people keep the images
|  on dos partitions (which may or may not be mounted, and others keep
|  it on a floppy. 
| 
|   There is no real standard place where loadlin users keep the
|  images; and any hardwired solution is unlikely to satisfy more than a
|  fraction of the people (who could already use /boot if they so
|  desired, anyway).
| 
|   An interactive solution, as you suggest, is adding a bit of
|  complexity to a script that already is quite critical, and
|  complex. Also, I am under some pressure to winnow interactivity out
|  of the scripts, in preparation of attempting a install process where
|  questions are asked before an install, not during one, so one may
|  answer a set of questions, and walk away; and sore the answers to
|  automatically feed another machine in a farm of machines.
| 
|   So, unless there is compelling arguments in favour, I am
|  disinclined to further increase the complexity of the postinstall
|  script (since a simple cp command provides the workaround).
| 
|   Comments?

I agree with Manoj, no need to make it any more complex than it is. 

I can offer my own solution. I made /boot a small VFAT partition that
is mounted both under Linux and under Win98. So, whenever I install a
kernel_image*.deb package It gets put in there by default and if/when
I need to boot Linux from Win98 it's there the next time I go into
Win98. Not totally automatic if it's a new kernel version, but close
enough.

Of course I think I've used loadlin exactly once so it's not much of
an issue for me to begin with.

Gary

debian on a thinkpad 720

[Alan Maciel Salcedo.]

please I need help to install linux debian on a microchannel !
thank you very much




Alan Maciel 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Designing a Linux lab.

[Liran Zvibel]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra wrote:

> Liran Zvibel wrote:
>   I think there's a diskless mini-HOWTO at http://sunsite.unc.edu./LDP/
> and a xterminal tutorial at
> http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta/unix/xterminal/index.html or something
> like that

I didn't mean diskless, I meant automatic installation, when all of the
details are taken from a file/server/etc..

Thaks,
Liran.
---
http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~liranz/

Re: Apt how, why, where

[Mark Panzer]

Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> Mark Panzer wrote:
> >
> > Question,
> >
> > Apt is supposed to be a better replacement for dselect/dpkg right?  Can
> > you install it on a HAMM system, and if so how?  I guess I kinda got
> > left behind on the Apt thing.  Does Apt use the same .deb's as dselect?
> > Also what is the proper way to compile and install a kernel in debian?
> > I've heard make kpkg instead of make zlilo and other makeables.  Sorry
> > for all the questions. Thanks.
> >
> > Mark Panzer
> >
> Apt is a replacement for dselect, not dpkg.  It is front-end to dpkg,
> so the '.deb' packaging scheme is the same.  It currently has only a
> command-line interface.  However it also installs itself as a 'access'
> method under dselect.  dselect/apt is better than dselect/ftp.
> 'make-kpkg' is supposed to be the Debian Way(TM), although, being 
> lazy,
> I still go the old zlilo/zImage route.
> 
If you make the zlilo will it "break" your system, by confusing dselect.
Or is this an exceptable practice?  I think it would be a good idea to
have the "Debian Linux Kernel Compiling HOWTO" since everyone who wants
sound has to recompile.  Also if you select modules (suppose I have to
if I get a PnP card) will it compile all the drivers not selected in
make [menu/x/config] into modules so you can use them or do you still
have to select the ones you want in make? It would be kinda cool if you
could just make a tiny kernel with only HDD support (and network) and
then insmod or use kdeamon to put all the modules in, also if you added
more hardware later you could just insmod that driver for it and not
have to recompile. (gee I think I'd like to delete that Win95 partition
too bad I need Word for school).

Mark Panzer

> --
> Ed C.
> 
> --
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cannot map libnewt.so.0.20

[C.J.LAWSON]

Hi,
I am trying to run whiptail .. when I execute the command I get a
Fatal Error 

[winnie:popt:<04:35:03 PM>]~/local/bin/whiptail
7827:/home/me/fx942976/local/bin/whiptail: /sbin/loader: Fatal Error: 
cannot map libnewt.so.0.20

Does anyone know why what I have done wrong?


--
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Thermal Processes Unit 
Department of Applied Energy and Optical Diagnostics 
School of Mechanical Engineering, 
Cranfield  University, 
Cranfield, Bedford. UK.  
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...
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Angels'

Re: Apt how, why, where

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"E" == E L Meijer \(Eric\)  writes:

 E> Being lazy myself, I have a feature request on behalf of all the (lazy)
 E> loadlin users.  Would it be possible to have the newly created
 E> kernel-image package offer the option of copying the kernel to the
 E> place loadlin expects it in your setup?  I would figure that
 E> kernel-package_...deb could ask if there is a standard
 E> `loadlin-kernel-directory', and store that in its configuration files.
 E> Of course it should rename old kernels using some intelligent renaming
 E> scheme (vmlinuz.1, vmlinuz.2, ...).

Is it really that bad doing a 
 # cp /vmlinuz /place/to/keep/images
 ? The reason I have not done so is that some people keep the images
 on dos partitions (which may or may not be mounted, and others keep
 it on a floppy. 

There is no real standard place where loadlin users keep the
 images; and any hardwired solution is unlikely to satisfy more than a
 fraction of the people (who could already use /boot if they so
 desired, anyway).

An interactive solution, as you suggest, is adding a bit of
 complexity to a script that already is quite critical, and
 complex. Also, I am under some pressure to winnow interactivity out
 of the scripts, in preparation of attempting a install process where
 questions are asked before an install, not during one, so one may
 answer a set of questions, and walk away; and sore the answers to
 automatically feed another machine in a farm of machines.

So, unless there is compelling arguments in favour, I am
 disinclined to further increase the complexity of the postinstall
 script (since a simple cp command provides the workaround).

Comments?

manoj
-- 
 If wishes were horses, then beggars would be thieves.
Manoj Srivastava  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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Re: Howto Auto Archive Mail Folders

[Ramin Motakef]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

This is what i do:
- filter mail with procmail, sort mailinglists in different
  folders an forward copies to "special" user "maillists".
- sort into folders there too
- cronjob:  - convert the mail to html with mhonarc
- store them in
  /var/www/mail/$list/$month$year
- empty mail-folders for user "maillists"
- create index with glimpse
- make it possible to search with some html/cgi

I read mail with emacs/gnus, and have read mail in mailinglists
autoexpired (deleted) after some days, so that the folder keep a
reasonable size.

I can mail you the scripts if you are interested, 
Ramin

"Jay Barbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anyone have a script that will automatically archive or remove mail 
> messages out of a folder so that a list such as this one could be more 
> managable?
> 
> I invision a cron job simply coping ~/Mail/debian-user to debian-user- 
> and then gzipping it.  That way it would not take so long to open a mail 
> folder 
> that has hundreds of messages.
> 
> Any advice?
> --Jay Barbee

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Version: 2.6.3ia
Charset: noconv
Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface

iQCVAwUBNdqXtfQ9+Dm4/+DZAQHJdQQAiL45on7UYOpt3NmUpgnIw/E4tt/SVB4s
OIpfEw9aerjTyrJcsNf8Wx0K/Z3Fg06TBmjdxbA0htLRWpEYUGFULO0XHI3sF0Mk
WQft+x0OKemdFJfRSk3OtQPKi+y0/KRswD3d4jH+YXbIm9d4m+o3qBeGSqKSQhc3
WhnjnOy3Xgw=
=//+c
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Problems with debian-user-digest?

[Gary L. Hennigan]

I haven't received anything from the digest version of this list in
about 6 days. Our power went out for the weekend and I haven't
received anything since. I unsubscribed and re-subscribed to the list, 
and despite a successful subscription to debian-user-digest, as
automatically reported back to me, I haven't seen any messages.

I thought maybe I was black-listed because anything sent to me could
possibly have bounced if it was set to queue for anything less than 48
hours so I sent an inquiry to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but have yet to
hear anything back (it's only been about 24hrs though). Is anyone else
having trouble with the digest version of debian-user?

In the meantime I've subscribed to just debian-user and I'm getting it 
with no problem. I'd really like to get back on the digest version
though.

Anyone have any idea what's happened?

Thanks,
Gary Hennigan

big file problem

[Eugene Sevinian]

Hi All, 
today I have changed the harddisk on my PC from 1.1G to ~4G WD
Caviar 24300.  I was quite happy when I have got running system by simply
'cp from_old_disk to_new_disk'. Everything was fine until I tried to work
with big files (~400M). First I used 'dd' to make copy but system hungs at
some point. Then I decided to use 'cp' and I got a lot of horrible
messages about disk errors. As I remember, during 'mkfs.ext2 -c /dev/hdx'
there was only "read only testing". Is there any way to do read/write
test? Or, may there are other idea about this problem?

TIA, 

Eugene Sevinian


CRD, YerPhI, 375036, Armenia
URL: http://crdlx5.yerphi.am/
Phone: 374-2-344873

Crontab seems not to work

[M.C. Vernon]

Hi all,

I want to run analog once per week. as root I do
crontab -e

and have the following crontab file:

5 3 ** 2/usr/bin/analog

Why doesn't this do anything?

(I have adjusted this to:

5 3 * * 2/usr/bin/analog

as an expt., but I'm not confidant of success)

Yours,

Matthew

-- 
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo

Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society
Selwyn College Computer Support
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http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/

Re: OFF-TOPIC (How do you guys sort your mail?)

[Richard L. Alhama]

On 19 Aug 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>  It is possible to extend the mailagent filtering commands by
>  implementing them in perl and then having them automagically loaded
>  when used.

Thanks.

Does mailagent use some kind of rc-file (rules?) like procmail?  Or do I
have to write some perl program/module?

Admiral Charah
Tech Support, Cyberspace Laoag, ISP
http://www2.csi.com.ph/~keyoz

"Overuse of the smiley is a mark of loserhood" --The Jargon File V4.0.0

Re: CDE

[Richard L. Alhama]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Joe Stewart wrote:

> Chris, Try xfce .  It
> does include the window manager xfwm, but does not require it. It is a
> toolbar which resembles cde.  The binaries are in rpm.  Just run alien on
> them and install with dpkg.
> 
> Hope this helped.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Christopher Wesneski wrote:
> 
> > Is there a window manager for debian similar (if not the same as) to
> > CDE? The closest one I can find is Openlook Virtual but I would rather
> > not use it.
> > 
> > Cheers,

or FVWMCDE.  No debianized package for this.  And the server is located in
here in the Philippines which may take some time to d/l.

http://lilith.mozcom.com/~orly

Admiral Charah
Tech Support, Cyberspace Laoag, ISP
http://www2.csi.com.ph/~keyoz

"Overuse of the smiley is a mark of loserhood" --The Jargon File V4.0.0

Re: cfdisk: "Fatal error: Bad Primary partition"

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

Nebu John Mathai wrote:

> Thanks for the scripts!

No problem.

> The problem turned out to be when WinNT partitioned its part of the
> drive, it messed up an adjacent primary partition.
>
> I have one more problem ... cfdisk reads the wrong disk geometry (ie, the
> C/H/S are wrong for my drive). Perhaps this is why the partitioning
> conflicted between cfdisk and NT?

Sounds like a possibility. I'm no expert in this area though.

> I'm just a bit scared of changing the geometry because cfdisk says that
> only people who know what they're doing should do it. I plan to just
> replace cfdisk's number with the numbers on my drive manual. Does this
> seem alright?

I can only offer my own inclination but I would say it's definitely kosher to 
change
the geometry to what's in the drive manual. Then again, who knows if that might 
make
the NT partition unusable.

> Finally, is there a FAQ anywhere that discusses the whole idea of
> partitions (primary vs extended), disk geometries, and MBR? I'm obviously
> ignorant.

Take a look at /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz.

--
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Re: Installing XFSTT on HAMM

[Doug Thistlethwaite]

Thanks for the tips!  I got the package and it seemed to install just
fine by following your instructions.  I think the easiest order would be
to move the  fonts first before the install.  (I ran the install script
twice after it got angry about the fonts...)  If the fonts are there,
the install script does everything.

Do you (or anyone else) know how much overhead (if any) a bunch of fonts
have on the system (besides their storage space).  I ended up moving 330
ttf files from my win 95 disk.

Thanks again for your help!

Doug
   Thanks for the tips!  I got the package and it seemed to install just
fine by following your instructions.  I think the easiest order would be
to move the  fonts first before the install.  (I ran the install script
twice after it got angry about the fonts...)  If the fonts are there,
the install script does everything.

Do you (or anyone else) know how much overhead (if any) a bunch of fonts
have on the system (besides their storage space).  I ended up moving 330
ttf files from my win 95 disk.

Thanks again for your help!

Doug

Re: Runaway X

[Ed Cogburn]

Hersh, Harry wrote:
> 
> Debian 2.0 installed on my machine amazingly easy, including ppp
> connectivity. However, now that I'm trying to get X up, things have
> bogged down.  In trying to debug XF86Config, my system is caught in an
> endless loop it cannot get out of. The problem is that xdm somehow is in
> the boot sequence and now I can't shut it off. Ctrl/Alt/BS kills the
> server, but it immediately comes back up. I've tried rebooting with the
> boot floppy and the rescue floppy, but as soon as the file system is
> mounted and fsck'ed, the disfunctional X comes right back.
> 
> How can I get out of this endless loop so I can fix XF86Config? This is
> a stand-alone machine, so it cannot be remotedly accessed.
> 
> Once I can stop the looping, I can start figuring out why the server
> only comes up in 340x200 mode and why /dev/psaux doesn't work as a
> Microsoft mouse port.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harry Hersh


Look in /etc/X11/config, and change the line 'start-xdm' to
'no-start-xdm'.  This will stop xdm from automatically starting.


-- 
Ed C.

Re: modprobe

[Ed Cogburn]

Jens Ritter wrote:
> 
> count zero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >
> >  hi to all,
> >  when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message
> >
> >  modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10
> >
> >  does anyone know what to do to eliminate this annoying message ?
> >  i don't know what is this module for .
> 
> edit /etc/conf.modules
> 
> Jens
> 


Hmm, I've been allowing dselect/apt keep me updated against slink, and
recently had similar error messages show up that were never there
before.  Some package when installing said that conf.modules is
deprecated.  The new config files are in the /etc/modutils/ dir. 
Unfortunately, modprobe isn't aware of the change!  I had to reconstruct
a conf.modules to get rid of this problem.  Does someone know the
package that tells users about the switch to /etc/modutils?  Is this a
bug against modprobe, or the other package?


-- 
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fetchmail+exim broke for no reason?

[Brian Servis]

Hi all,

Yesterday my fetchmail+exim setup to retrieve mail from my pop3 server
was workign
without a hitch.  Today I dialup and now fetchmail will not download my
mail.  I 
have not changed a thing!  Below is the transaction between the two
machines. Can
anybody shed any light on what is going on?  I can use netscape to
retrieve the 
mail without any complaints.  But I don't use netscape for mail(except
for now when
my normal setup is broken, =) ).

Info:
pop3 server:  postoffice.purdue.edu
my machine: brian.servis.net(local name, not a real dns/ip name)

fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 3568 octets
fetchmail: reading message 1 of 132 (3568 bytes)
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 brian.servis.snet ESMTP Exim 1.92 #1 Wed, 19 Aug
1998 09:10
:52 -0500
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO brian.servis.snet
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-brian.servis.snet Hello root at brian.servis.snet
[192.168.
1.1]
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-SIZE
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 HELP
fetchmail: forwarding to brian.servis.snet
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<@postoffice.purdue.edu> SIZE=3568
fetchmail: SMTP< 501 <@postoffice.purdue.edu> : colon expected after
route
fetchmail: SMTP error: 501 <@postoffice.purdue.edu> : colon expected
after route
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM: SIZE=3568
fetchmail: SMTP< 501  : sender address must contain a domain
fetchmail: SMTP error: 501  : sender address must contain a domain
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< This is a MIME-encapsulated message
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from
postoffice.purdue.edu
fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
fetchmail: SMTP< 221 brian.servis.snet closing connection
fetchmail: sleeping at Wed Aug 19 09:10:52 1998

Thanks,

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Re: modprobe

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Tony Crawford wrote:

 : On 18 Aug 98 at 23:10, count zero wrote:
 : 
 : >  hi to all,
 : >  when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message
 : > 
 : >  modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10
 : 
 : Me too!  Can you please forward any personal replies you get 
 : that don't go through the list?

I've never seen this problem myself ... but, looking in
/etc/conf.modules I see two lines which may be helpful.

First, one finds this line:

  alias char-major-10-130 softdog

which is for the software watchdog.  If you aren't running a kernel with
software watchdog support, I think you could comment out this line.

Also, there is this line:

  #alias  off 

so in your case I would add a line which states

  alias char-major-10 off

Hope this helps!

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Re: Little/Big endian discussion (was: Re: can I burn the output of mpg123 -s?)

[Nathan E Norman]

On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote:

 : On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 10:54:52AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 : > On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 08:46:20AM -0400, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote:
 : > > currently xfstt bombs out if it gets a connection of a differnt 
 : > > "endianess" than the system it is on...I have been meaning to fix that 
but
 : > > maybe the PowerPC may have an easier fix...
 : > > nah...ill just look into fixing it "right"
 : > 
 : > Ouch.. use htons(), htonl(), ntohs(), ntohl() to convert; you don't
 : > have to know what endianness the machine is you're using, you rely
 : > on libc knowing and implementing those functions appropriately.
 : 
 : well...
 : thats the problem...
 : htons et al are empty functions on big-endian systems and thge situation
 : actually requires they perform the swap because in this case endian-ness
 : matters and sending it in "Network order" is NOT apropriate unless
 : "Network Order" is the same as host order on the client.
 : 
 : see teh problem?
 : if the other side doesn't ntoh the data then it doesn't work ;)

I'm coming into this late, and perhaps under-armed ... but no, I don't
understand.  Network order == big-endian ... so on little-endian
machines htons(), htonl() et. do actually perform a conversion.  On a
big-endian system, no conversion is necessary because network order ==
host order on these machines.  

This way, every host is transferring information in network order, so
everyone's happy.

Am I missing something?

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Re: Passwd Encryption (Re: Linux security)

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Chris wrote:

 : On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:
 : 
 : > On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:27:40 -0500 (CDT), Nathan E Norman wrote:
 : > 
 : > >No.  The first two characters of the "Encrypted password" field are the
 : > >"salt"; the plaintext password collected from loogin or wherever is
 : > >crypted using that salt, and the result compared to the entire field.
 : > 
 : > Hrm, guess things have changed since the other nutshell book was 
printed.
 : >  :/
 : > 
 : > 
 : 
 : 
 : An extract from the crypt(3) man page:
 : 
 : 
 :crypt is the password encryption function.  It is based on
 :the Data Encryption  Standard  algorithm  with  variations
 :intended  (among  other things) to discourage use of hard­
 :ware implementations of a key search.
 : 
 :key is a user's typed password.
 : 
 :salt  is  a  two-character  string  chosen  from  the  set
 :[a-zA-Z0-9./].   This  string is used to perturb the algo­
 :rithm in one of 4096 different ways.
 : 
 :By taking the lowest 7 bit of each character of the key, a
 :56-bit  key  is  obtained.   This  56-bit  key  is used to
 :encrypt repeatedly a constant  string  (usually  a  string
 :consisting  of  all  zeros).  The returned value points to
 :the encrypted password, a series  of  13  printable  ASCII
 :characters  (the  first  two characters represent the salt
 :itself).  The return value points  to  static  data  whose
 :content is overwritten by each call.

Ah!  Ok, I see what I was missing.

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Re: format a floppy ?

[Immanuel Yap]

Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> as i upgraded from bo to hamm (and on other machine I installed directly
> hamm), I miss the fdformat command... where's that gone ?

fdformat is obsolete; use superformat.

Noel

win98/hamm dual boot problem

[Michael Stenner]

Following instructions I found on this list some time ago, I installed
hamm and win98 separately: each have their own drive - only one was
hooked up at a time.  Than, I put both drives in:  Linux as hda and win
as hdb.  THis was nothing new for linux, so I started up linux and ran
lilo with the following lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/hda1
delay=50
image=/vmlinuz
  root=/dev/hda1
  label=linux
  read-only
other=/dev/hdb1
  label=win
  table=/dev/hdb

linux boots well via lilo now, but windows doesn't boot at all:  after
typing "win" at LILO:, it just hangs.  Any ideas at all would be very
much appreciated.
Thanks,
 Michael

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  Duke University, Dept. of Physics   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Box 90305, Durham N.C. 27708-0305

Re: cfdisk: "Fatal error: Bad Primary partition"

[Nebu John Mathai]

Thanks for the scripts!

The problem turned out to be when WinNT partitioned its part of the
drive, it messed up an adjacent primary partition.

I have one more problem ... cfdisk reads the wrong disk geometry (ie, the
C/H/S are wrong for my drive). Perhaps this is why the partitioning
conflicted between cfdisk and NT?

I'm just a bit scared of changing the geometry because cfdisk says that
only people who know what they're doing should do it. I plan to just
replace cfdisk's number with the numbers on my drive manual. Does this
seem alright?

Finally, is there a FAQ anywhere that discusses the whole idea of
partitions (primary vs extended), disk geometries, and MBR? I'm obviously
ignorant. 

Thanks for your help,
Nebu

Re: Designing a Linux lab.

[Stephen J. Carpenter]

On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 09:46:00AM -0300, Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete 
Dutra wrote:
> Liran Zvibel wrote:
> > 
> > I have one question, though, NT has an option to be installed and
> > configured from the network (I don't mean installing via NFS, but
> > actually get all the installation profile form the network, including the
> > installed programs and conf. files (Of course the administrator has to
> > give the ip and host name)).
> > 
> > Is there such an option for Linux? If there is it will be much easier to
> > convince my boss to make the systems dual boots.
> > 
> > I can put a main /usr partition on our RAID, and just copy the /etc
> > directory. But even in this way I'll have to change the ip and hostname
> > manually for every computer.
> > 
> > I want the students to be able to work locally on the Linux machines, and
> > might add a third boot option to run XDM, connect to our chooser and work
> > from the servers.
> 
>   I think there's a diskless mini-HOWTO at http://sunsite.unc.edu./LDP/
> and a xterminal tutorial at
> http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta/unix/xterminal/index.html or something
> like that

I don't think either of these are what he wants...
also as a note...I am myself working on a truely diskless XTerminal
"HOWTOish" doc. right now it is as people.delphi.com/sjc/xterm.txt
(that will change to a more permamnat web page RSN)

anyway
I think the proper answer is that the real answer to the question is much
simpler...
All you need to do is have 1 server with home dirs and have each machine
mount /home from that via nfs. 
Each user has a home dir and can store all their configs in there...that 
way when a (l)user logs in they have all their configs.

As for IP and hostname...that doies need to be configured on a per machine
basis...unless you want each user to have an ip/hostname
so that whatever machin ethey log into is always the same IP?
I don't THINK thats what you mean so...(at least I hope not)

Anyway...you can configure linux systems via bootp or rarp...
That way one central sevrer can "dish out" the IPs and hostnames
(or you can use DHCP)

As for xdmcheck out my XTerminal doc AND the one by Mr Kaszeta (URL above)
(he actually has been a bit helpfull with me writting mine)
My setup would allow you to boot a machine with a disk with nothing but
a kernel image on it (or this same image could be placed in lilo ;) )
and it will nfs mount its root and boot...right into X and give
a chooser. 

Once it is setup adding a new host is as easy as editing /etc/bootptab
it doesn't (YET) cover hetrogeneous XTerminal labs (ie if ALL of the
machines are similar hardware it will work flawlessly)
I AM working on it however
-Steve

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Installing part without installing everyting

[Martijn en Hilde]

Bezoek mijn homepage op:
www.knoware.nl/users/mbco

Dear Debian

On this moment I have runnig a linux system on my computer. I want te
install packed from your CD with removing every thing of mij HD. I just
want to add. How can I do this. I hope yout will tel me ow to install
Dselect en dpkg without insyalling every thing new.

Afz MB&CO

Re: CDE

[Joe Stewart]

Chris, Try xfce .  It
does include the window manager xfwm, but does not require it. It is a
toolbar which resembles cde.  The binaries are in rpm.  Just run alien on
them and install with dpkg.

Hope this helped.

Joe

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Christopher Wesneski wrote:

> Is there a window manager for debian similar (if not the same as) to
> CDE? The closest one I can find is Openlook Virtual but I would rather
> not use it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> 

CDE

[Christopher Wesneski]

Is there a window manager for debian similar (if not the same as) to
CDE? The closest one I can find is Openlook Virtual but I would rather
not use it.

Cheers,


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Re: Designing a Linux lab.

[Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra]

Liran Zvibel wrote:
> 
> I have one question, though, NT has an option to be installed and
> configured from the network (I don't mean installing via NFS, but
> actually get all the installation profile form the network, including the
> installed programs and conf. files (Of course the administrator has to
> give the ip and host name)).
> 
> Is there such an option for Linux? If there is it will be much easier to
> convince my boss to make the systems dual boots.
> 
> I can put a main /usr partition on our RAID, and just copy the /etc
> directory. But even in this way I'll have to change the ip and hostname
> manually for every computer.
> 
> I want the students to be able to work locally on the Linux machines, and
> might add a third boot option to run XDM, connect to our chooser and work
> from the servers.

I think there's a diskless mini-HOWTO at http://sunsite.unc.edu./LDP/
and a xterminal tutorial at
http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta/unix/xterminal/index.html or something
like that

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Re: Runaway X

[M.C. Vernon]

> Debian 2.0 installed on my machine amazingly easy, including ppp
> connectivity. However, now that I'm trying to get X up, things have
> bogged down.  In trying to debug XF86Config, my system is caught in an
> endless loop it cannot get out of. The problem is that xdm somehow is in
> the boot sequence and now I can't shut it off. Ctrl/Alt/BS kills the
> server, but it immediately comes back up. I've tried rebooting with the
> boot floppy and the rescue floppy, but as soon as the file system is
> mounted and fsck'ed, the disfunctional X comes right back. 
> 
> How can I get out of this endless loop so I can fix XF86Config? This is
> a stand-alone machine, so it cannot be remotedly accessed. 

The mistake you have made is to tell xdm to start automatically before
getting X configured correctly.
 
Try starting it up in single user mode...

and using the boot floppy shouldn't let xdm start - it's running its own
programm...

Matthew 

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ppp connect trouble

[ssnow]

Hello

I am currently having a problem with ppp in Debian 2.0.  When I first boot
into
debian and run my ppp script. It connects fine. But when I hang up (kill
the
pppd pid) and try to reconnect be re-executing the script nothing happens
the
system just sits here and does nothing.

Aug 19 08:18:07 indolent pppd[6010]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root,
uid 0
Aug 19 08:18:07 indolent pppd[6010]: Removed stale lock on ttyS3 (pid 238)
Aug 19 08:18:54 indolent chat[6043]: Failed
Aug 19 08:18:54 indolent pppd[6010]: Connect script failed   
Aug 19 08:19:50 indolent pppd[6010]: Serial connection established.
Aug 19 08:19:51 indolent pppd[6010]: Using interface ppp0
Aug 19 08:19:51 indolent pppd[6010]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS3
Aug 19 08:19:54 indolent pppd[6010]: Cannot determine ethernet address for
proxy ARP
Aug 19 08:19:54 indolent pppd[6010]: local  IP address 204.213.187.95
Aug 19 08:19:54 indolent pppd[6010]: remote IP address 204.213.187.100

But if I wait for a while then it will work. Because the first time it
does not
work but the second time it does.

Anyone know?

Runaway X

[Hersh, Harry]

Debian 2.0 installed on my machine amazingly easy, including ppp
connectivity. However, now that I'm trying to get X up, things have
bogged down.  In trying to debug XF86Config, my system is caught in an
endless loop it cannot get out of. The problem is that xdm somehow is in
the boot sequence and now I can't shut it off. Ctrl/Alt/BS kills the
server, but it immediately comes back up. I've tried rebooting with the
boot floppy and the rescue floppy, but as soon as the file system is
mounted and fsck'ed, the disfunctional X comes right back. 

How can I get out of this endless loop so I can fix XF86Config? This is
a stand-alone machine, so it cannot be remotedly accessed. 

Once I can stop the looping, I can start figuring out why the server
only comes up in 340x200 mode and why /dev/psaux doesn't work as a
Microsoft mouse port.

Thanks,

Harry Hersh

Re: qmail package for debian?

[Robert Ramiega]

On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 12:16:15PM +1000, Damon Muller wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 19:02:23 -0500
> the lone gunman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> There are some source debs either in contrib or non-free (can't remember
> which off the top of my head). The program's author has various
> restrictions on distribution of binary packages, mainly because he can't
> guareentee that the code is pure and still secure.
 Yes there is qmail source package but only 1.02 not the latest 1.03
 And recently Bernstein has changed policy about distributing qmail in binary
form.

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Re: Debian Knowledge Base ?

[Greg \"Tower\" Starkes]

On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Hank Fay wrote:

> What I think would be helpful would be a Keyword search which then provided
> the title and link for results; on the order of the  MSKB.  That way,
> when you searched on kernel you'd come up with 'make-kpkg' in a couple of
> locations.  I responded to RMS on his article on the need for "free
> documentation" as well as "free software" (as the maillist is testament to,
> it's darned hard to use the second without the first), and he suggested I
> write it (I knew this was a risk when writing him ).  Keywords of "sound
> software" would bring up titles and links.

I'll second that. These searches could also be tied into the bug tracking 
system as well.

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Designing a Linux lab.

[Liran Zvibel]

Hi.

We have some Linux servers, and we want to build a new computer lab. We
basically have two choices:

1. Install NT on all of them, and work with Xceed.
2. Install a dual boot Linux/NT on them.

I'd like it to be the dual boot (If it was up to me, we wouldn't put the
NTs at all...)

I have one question, though, NT has an option to be installed and
configured from the network (I don't mean installing via NFS, but
actually get all the installation profile form the network, including the
installed programs and conf. files (Of course the administrator has to
give the ip and host name)).

Is there such an option for Linux? If there is it will be much easier to
convince my boss to make the systems dual boots.

I can put a main /usr partition on our RAID, and just copy the /etc
directory. But even in this way I'll have to change the ip and hostname
manually for every computer.

I want the students to be able to work locally on the Linux machines, and
might add a third boot option to run XDM, connect to our chooser and work
from the servers.

TIA, 
Liran.
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Re: modprobe

[David B. Teague]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Tony Crawford wrote:

> On 18 Aug 98 at 23:10, count zero wrote:

> >  when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message
> >  modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10
> 
> Me too!  Can you please forward any personal replies you get 
> that don't go through the list?

Hi

 Please, either cc: me any replies, or perhaps post a summary.
 Many thanks

David
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Re: modprobe

[Tony Crawford]

On 18 Aug 98 at 23:10, count zero wrote:

>  hi to all,
>  when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message
> 
>  modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10

Me too!  Can you please forward any personal replies you get 
that don't go through the list?

Tony


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Phone: +49-3341-30 99 99
Fax:   +49-3341-30 99 98

Re: non-interactive ispell

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > is it possible to let ispell find all words that it doesn't understand
> > store in a file?  When checking a long text one can't concentrate by
> > all these words that ispell doesn't know.
> 
> The program "spell" from the spell package does exactly this.
> 
> One disadvantage though: it doesn't know how to use LaTeX encoded
> umlauts.
> 
> Since I'm in Germany and have to write in German partially
> I'd like to check german texts.  Any hint how I should encode
> umlauts?  Ascii, Iso, HTML and LaTeX are no problems...
> 
Why not write your texts with the real umlauts (requires:
\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} in the preamble)?

Greetings
jtr

Re: Samba and win98

[peloy]

Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have just stumbled across an annoying little problem. A friend and I
> have a network between our PC's, and when I mount his smbfs shares, I get
> really screwy file listings. when there is 700 files or something (windows
> dir.. :) ) it comes out showing me 64, 128 etc... it changes
> intermitently. Anyone got an idea as to wtf is going on?

Oh, the problem is with smbfs and NOT with Samba. I got confused by
the subject line...

Yup, what kernel version are you using? There's something wrong with
smbfs in 2.1.x kernels when smbmount'ing a share from Windows 95 (and
probably Windows 98 as well, as you report) servers.

peloy.-

new Official 2.0 CD's?

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

Hi,

I have an image of the debian 2.0 cd's called `binary-i386.raw', with
md5sum 726e6e06379b4bb33a1726c00f2828d6.  This matches the md5sum that
was in the MD5SUMS file that I got from the same source.  Now I find
that the md5sum listed for binary-i386.raw on several mirror sites has
the md5sum e25491474227b42f61e4185201f4120b listed.  Is this a newer
version?  Wouldn't it be nice to inform people about the creation date
of the image?

I came across two problems using the first image in a fresh install:

- I could not get the installation to write the configured kernel to a
floppy (I don't use LILO).  After formatting the floppy, the program
announced that the floppy was bad.  I got around this, using the rescue
disk kernel and later compiling my own, and later the very same floppy
proved perfectly ok for holding the kernel.  Any comments?

- The installation of xserver-something_...deb packages screwed up, due
to an error in the preinst script.  I downloaded a newer version
(xserver-mach64_3.3.2.2-4.deb), and this installed ok, but I ended up
with the XF86-VGA16 server installed.  I think this happened at least to
one other person on the list, who reported (s)he could not get a depth
greater than 4.  I edited the /etc/X11/Xserver file to point to the
mach64 server, and now X11 works as expected.  I also deleted some files
called `newxserver' in /etc/X11.  Does anyone know whether this
could hurt?

Question: has the new image the fixed xserver packages on it?

Eric

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Re: Samba and win98

[peloy]

Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What kernel version are you using? You can find out by typing in
> "uname -a".
> 
> I have had problems using 2.1.109 accessing a Win98 computer, as I often
> get errors: "Too many open files" (or something similar). I am not sure
> if this is becuase of Linux or Win98.

Uhh, this was with Samba (the smbd daemon) or with smbmount-2.1.x?
I've seen the "Too many open files" or something like that when using
smbmount with Windows 95 clients, but have never seen the message with
Samba.

peloy.-

Re: non-interactive ispell

[Martin Schulze]

Sorry to quote myself but suddenly Ray got the answer.

Martin Schulze wrote:
> is it possible to let ispell find all words that it doesn't understand
> store in a file?  When checking a long text one can't concentrate by
> all these words that ispell doesn't know.

The program "spell" from the spell package does exactly this.

One disadvantage though: it doesn't know how to use LaTeX encoded
umlauts.

Since I'm in Germany and have to write in German partially
I'd like to check german texts.  Any hint how I should encode
umlauts?  Ascii, Iso, HTML and LaTeX are no problems...

Regards,

Joey

-- 
All language designers are arrogant.  Goes with the territory...
-- Larry Wall

Re: modprobe

[Jens Ritter]

count zero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  
>  hi to all,
>  when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message
>  
>  modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10
>  
>  does anyone know what to do to eliminate this annoying message ?
>  i don't know what is this module for .


edit /etc/conf.modules

Jens

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Re: Yet another WindowMaker question...

[Waldemar Żurowski]

"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>"Debian Apps" OPEN_MENU menu.hook

Yes - that's exactly what I wanted to get. Thank You a lot.

> e) Optionally, if you want to add your own items to the "Debian Apps" menu,
>create files in /etc/menu/ for the items you want there. (And read the
>menu documentation -- you have menu installed, don't you?)

Well - its silly, but I still don't get how each user can customize
"Debian Apps" using menu - I know that it is possible to overwrite
some menu entry in ~/.menu (or ~/.menus) but I still don't know how to
_add_ some new menu entry :(

Bilbo

Re: Sound Problems

[Jens Ch. Lisner]

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Lars Steinke wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Jens Ch. Lisner wrote:
> 
> > I am really confused about this.
> 
> Well, have you tried using a mixer to figure out where the noise
> originates from, e.g. MIC IN or so ?
> 
Yes, you are right! The bass volume seemed to be too high. Thanx for the
hint!

Jens