'libfdisk error reading sector' during debian installation

1998-12-04 Thread Kris van Heghe
As i am new in LINUX, a few suggestions about solving the following
problem would be most helpful. I try to install the debian version
(floppy media) on an old Compaq Deskpro 386/20. I installed a
non-standard harddisk (Conner, not recognized by the BIOS)so I boot from
my rescue disk with the startup options : hd=683,16,38 to indicate the
correct disk geometry. To create the partitions, I use CFDISK with the
same parameters (-c, -h and -s) In-between the installation phases, when
I get 'Installation program is determining the current state. etc'
an error message comes in-between: 'libfdisk error reading sector
311296. Operation not permitted' This sector must be the last sector in
the first partition. Even when I changed the size of my 2 partitions
(Ext Linux and Linux swap), the number changes and still seems to
indicate the last sector of the first partition. I can continue the
installation, file system creation and bad-track checking seems to work
but at the installation of the base system, after copying the 6
'base'-floppies, uncompression of the zipped file doesn't work and I
should copy the 6 floppies again and again. Is there a solution 


Re: sudo doesn't ask for passwd

1998-12-04 Thread Alexander N. Benner
hi

Ship's Log, Lt. Joey Hess, Stardate 031298.0612:
> 
> This is quite normal, if you have used sudo a few minutes before and it
> asked for a password.

The prob. is that it always does so and not only after using it. :(
I cannot figure out how this can be ...
I'll tried to check /etc/pamd. but it looks fine ...
Donnow what else I could check.

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Thinkpad 755C files

1998-12-04 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.


ok, here's the xf86config & gpm files for the thinkpad 755C; I forget 
who needed them.




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Re: libstdc++.so.2.8 problem

1998-12-04 Thread Joe Emenaker
Here's something someone posted a few days ago

--

Folks,

If you are getting the error

/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info

after upgrading to slink, please go through the mail below.  Mitch's
solution worked for me.  This issue may be irrelevent when the new
stuff shows up on the servers.

This is just a repost; I have little other info.

Regards

-- Ghane

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec  1 10:05:41 1998
>Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:51:06 -0500
>From: Mitch Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Sanjeev Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgraded to unstable, now unstable

Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Have used Debian for critical office uses for over two years now.  And
> last saturday, being in Office, decided to upgrade from hamm to slink.
> (Please do not shoot yet).
>
> Near the end, I started getting:
>
> update-menus: error in loading shared libraries
> /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
>
> Hmmm.  No problem, will right it self, I thought.  The same sort of
> library problems had occured when upgrading my Debian/Sparc installtion.
>
> But no way.  Many tools have stopped working (groff, etc); and to top it
> all, apt-get and dselect too.  So no hope of the next day's updates on
> slink righting matters.
> [snip]

There is another way to do this that I've seen bouncing around,
but I don't have the link to it yet.

Downgrade your dpkg to 1.4.0.31 and upgrade your libstdc++ if it
hasn't been already.  Make sure apt is at 0.1.9.

You can get a tarball of all these debs from
http://blevins.simplenet.com/foobar/

dpkg should still work, although dselect and apt are hosed.
After installing the files above, both dselect and apt should work.
Other packages may still have problems with the __register_frame_info
problem, but they are being recompiled and uploaded so they should
work themselves onto your mirror after a few days.

Hope this helps,
-Mitch



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Re: Linux newbie needs help

1998-12-04 Thread Olafur Jens Sigurdsson
Þann 04. desember 1998 reit Jiri Baum svohljóðandi:
> Hello,
> 
> Jeff wrote:
> > Thanks but when I dpkg the .deb file, it says qt1g depends on xlib6g. 
> > Where could I get that? Thanks.
> 
> Same place as the first .deb file, in the directory main/x11.
> 
> Actually, if you don't have xlib6g, that most likely means you are missing
> most or all of X11, too.
> 
Seems like Jeff is having the same problem as im having. I have xlib6g on 
my Debian but i cant install qt1g couse my xlib6g is of an older version 
(i installed the version x.3.xx something but qt1g needs x.5.xx something 
i think) so be aware what version of xlib6g your downloading.

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mouse speed in X

1998-12-04 Thread Daniel Elenius
Does anyone know how to change the BASIC mouse speed (not the
acceleration) in X. The 'xset m' only changes the acceleration and
threshold, but what I want is a faster non-accelerated mouse
speed. I've tried 'xset m 4 1' which gives a good speed, but it makes
the mouse 'jerky', since it moves the pointer 4 pixels at a time.
Happy for any suggestions... 


Re: Who's the ian part in Debian?

1998-12-04 Thread Greg Vence
Just another Ian... ;)  President of SPI, Highly Worshiped Grand Poohba
of the Debian Project.

Hah, just another Ian!  Now, what about Ean...

Ok, its friday and I'm still caged at work -- Greg.

Shaleh wrote:
> 
> Ian Murdock is the "ian".  Debra is his wife.
> 
> Ian Jackson is just another Ian (we have a few).
> 
> On 04-Dec-98 zhaoway wrote:
> > Just curiousity from a, hmmm  :-)
> > Who is the ian part in debian?
> > Ian Jackson or Ian Murdock? What's the relationship between the two?
> > And where'e debra mentioned in the debian faq? Just curiosity,
> > in no means I want to be offensive. And sorry for my poor english :-)
> 

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Re: suid script

1998-12-04 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Jiri Baum wrote:

> The way I remember it is:
> 
> 1) kernel opens the file, finds it suid
> 2) kernel executes the shell with that uid
> 3) shell opens the same filename
> 
> If some fast file-moving is done between (1) and (3), one can substitute
> something else for the suid script.
> 
> Don't forget the user can copy / link a suid script into his home directory.

Ahh, link is the thing I was looking for.  Otherwise, the person who made
the suid script would be responsible for the exploit, which wasn't making
sense to me.  I think it's probably the kernel that does the open on step
3, but it's no big difference in the point you were making.  I wonder how
other unix variants that allow suid scripts do this?  Or better question:
are there any?  This has been very interesting, thanks for all the info.

Brandon

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dpkg-buildpackage

1998-12-04 Thread Preston Landers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Daniel Elenius wrote:
> 
> > Is it possible when installing a debian package with:
> >
> > dpkg-source -x packagename.dsc
> > , followed by ./configure, make, make install,
> 
> The correct method is:
> 
> dpkg-source -x packagename.dsc
> cd packagename.dsc
> debian/rules build
> debian/rules binary
> 
> cd ..
> dpkg -i packagename.deb
> 

Ummm, what's wrong with

dpkg-source -x packagename.dsc
cd packagename
dpkg-buildpackage
cd ..
dpkg -i packagename.deb

I think you don't even have to be root if you use the fake-root package,
whatever that is.

I used to use debian/rules build, until someone pointed out the
dpkg-buildpackage command to me.

---Preston


Re: Glossary and Nomenclature generation (LaTeX)

1998-12-04 Thread Richard Lyon

>Please could someone inform me as to the 'standard' way of generating
> glossary and nomenclature entries within a latex document 
> 

\makeglossary   in the preamble
\glossary{entry}in the text part

works in a similar manner to index.





Re: Rar for Linux

1998-12-04 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
   Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 10:50:00 +0100
   Resent-from: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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   On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 09:54:59AM +1100, Austanners Wet Blue Pty Ltd wrote:
   > I have a copy of rar for linux, in the form of the file rarlinux. How do i 
install or execute this?
   > I have done a chmod (755) on the file

   What does `file rarlinux` say?

rarlinux is self-exe archive, just chmod u+x and run it

OK


My experiences with a scanner

1998-12-04 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hello!

Just wanted to share with you my recently lived experiences with a 
scanner.

This week I bought an UMAX Astra 1220S scanner. I had been looking for
a scanner that worked unfer Linux for some time. I always read
carefully all scanner-related messages posted to the Debian lists and
to the "Ask Slashdot" section of /.

Well, I read pretty good comments about the UMAX scanner so I decided
to give it a try.

My experience has been completely positive! Everything worked out of
the box with no problems at all. I installed SANE, recompiled my
2.1.131 kernel with generic SCSI support and voila!

SANE is pretty cool. It even allows you to scan over the network. The
command line scanimage utility is very good and the xscanimage X-based
utility is very nice too.

Debian has packages to convert the output from scanimage (PNM
-portable aNyMaP- formats) to almost any graphic format.

The scanner+SANE combination together with the HylaFAX fax software is
a powerful team that allows to send faxes just like a normal fax
machine does.

peloy.-


gawk: bug or feature?

1998-12-04 Thread Marco Frattola
Hi,
this is not -probably- debian specific, but I have no other distribution to
test, so here's my question.

I'm filtering a file using gawk. since there are line that look alike, but
differ only by two chars, I decided to take this approach:

/pattern/   { if line-of-type-1 {
FIELDWIDTHS=fields1; 
flag=1;
} else {
FIELDWIDTHS=fields2;
flag=2;
}

flag==1 { do something }
flag==2 { do something else }

my understanding of gawk working:

get a line from file
scan pattern in order of appearance and if a match is found, execute action
until end-of-file

so it should do:
get line 1
decide if it's type-1 or type-1 and set FIELDWIDTHS accordingly
apply FIELDWITDHS using one of the "do something" rules

instead, this is what I see:
FIELDWIDTHS is correctly assigned the right record len spec.

BUT

lines are splitted using the previous value of FIELDWITDHS (for ex, the
first line is splitted without caring of FIELDWIDTHS). by 'previous value I
mean the value FIELDWIDTHS had before /pattern/ rule.

I've tested this behaviour with gawk 3.0.0, 3.0.1 and 3.0.2, with debian
distribs from 1.1 to 2.0. same behaviour. so maybe this is the intended way
of working for awk. is this the right answer? I've read awk manpage, but ..
I don't find anything that confirms or denies it.
Can anybody help me? I'd submit a bugreport, if this is a bug. but I don't
want to bother the mantainer, if I'm wrong.

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Timezone Problem

1998-12-04 Thread Eric Gillespie, Jr.
I posted this to the list not too long ago, and the only response was I
got was a message saying "That's what you get for running unstable
distributions." As stated in my original message, the problem began with
hamm. The reason I was trying the unstable distributions was to attempt to
clear up the problem. After seeing that it did not help, I went back to
hamm. This message is being sent on a hamm system, and, as you can see, it
contains an invalid timezone stamp. Any help would be appreciated.

On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote:
> What's wrong with the Debian timezones? I never had any problems with bo
> (that I remember), but when I upgraded to hamm, then slink, and now
> potato, something's wrong with the timezone. I have my system set up so
> that the system time is GMT, but the local time is Central. /etc/timezone
> contains one line:
> CST6CDT
> 
> The above looks correct, because I am in Central and we have Daylight
> Savings Time in the summer. And Central is 6 hours east of GMT, so it all
> looks good. *However*, on outgoing mail (such as this message), it says
> "-0600 (EST)". This is not correct. I am not in Eastern, and if I were,
> that would be -0500. I checked in /usr/doc/timezone, but it's just glibc
> info. Not very useful. I checked some of the headers on this list, and I
> am not the only one experiencing this problem. What's up?
> 

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RE:Serial port problem/modem

1998-12-04 Thread John Greer
I have a 28.8 modem that worked under Windows 3.1 before I 
switched my machine over to Debian 2.0.34.  I have a serial mouse 
that I got working fine using gpm and now I would like to configure 
the machine to use my modem.  THe problem is that I can not seem 
to get the machine to recognize that there is anything in COM2.  The 
modem is internal and not a WinModem.  The /dev/ttyS0 is the only 
COM port that the kernel sees on boot-up.  ANy hints out there??  
TIA

John Greer


Re: [Re: Netgear NIC card support]

1998-12-04 Thread rathon
TO all:
Thanks again to all who have responded to this request of mine.
While following all your tips and suggestions, I also decided to drop
by the BayNetworks website (http://NETGEAR.baynetworks.com) and
selected the FA310TX Drivers section.

For ver4.0 and higher, BayNetworks is providing a Linux Driver for
web download along with FAQ's.

Ian is right, this FA310TX shows a NETGEAR logo and not a DEC logo
on the chip. Also interesting is BayNetworks recommends using their
Linux Driver instead of Tulip.

Thanks again to all,
Rathon.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is a Tulip-compatible card. The origional card was actually a DECchip
Tulip, but the one with the Netgear logo is a Tulip clone. I don't know if
it's as good as the DECchip one, but I have gotten it to talk to a
network, using both kernel 2.0.34 and 2.1.125

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to try it out on a multi-card
configuration. I do know the DECchip works flawlessly with two (That's
what my gateway is running) and do know of another no-name card that my
ISP wanted me to use, that wouldn't work with another network card
installed. It just couldn't detect the interrupt.

Don't return the card unless you can't get it to work with either kernel's
Tulip driver. I have eight of these cards in my home network, including
one of the new ones, and I haven't yet had a problem. The drivers even
detected when I swapped my 10M hub for a 10/100 and worked at TX without
rebooting. I wish I could say the same for the one 3com card I'm using.

Hope this helps. I just happen to like Bay Networks.

--Ian


 On 1 Dec 1998, rathon wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I bought a Netgear Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter card - FX310tx by Bay Networks.
> 
> Then I looked thru the EthernetHOW-TO and this card is not listed anywhere.
> 
> I am using Debian2.0. Does this mean no driver, no support ???
> 
> Can anyone confirm for me pls ? 
> 
> I need to know if I should return this and get something else. The price
> was good though.
> 
> Regards,
> Rathon
> 
> 
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Re: Linux newbie needs help

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

Jeff wrote:
> Thanks but when I dpkg the .deb file, it says qt1g depends on xlib6g. 
> Where could I get that? Thanks.

Same place as the first .deb file, in the directory main/x11.

Actually, if you don't have xlib6g, that most likely means you are missing
most or all of X11, too.


If you are connecting to the Internet directly from your Debian box, it's
probably easiest to point dselect at the ftp site (read the guide carefully),
select what you want and then let it automatically download everything it
thinks it needs.

However, if you only have an ordinary modem, this will take quite a while - it
may be better to buy, beg or borrow a CD.

Otherwise, if you want to keep on with dpkg, someone else already pointed you
to www.debian.org - on the pages listing the packages, each page has links for
related packages. Here's what the words mean: "Depends" - you need to have
this other package "Recommends" - you probably need to have this other package
"Suggests" - you might want to have this other package

Note that dpkg won't let you install any packages that have a "Depends" until
you get the other package, too.


HTH

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: problems+suggestions

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> Would dpkg --get-selections >> foo
>   dpkg --set-selections << foo
> 
> not do this?

Single '>' and '<', please.


Sorry to nitpick, but a beginning user would probably be quite confused by the
prompt for the here-document.

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: Name suggestion

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> Witness a post of mine on Monday: "Upgraded to unstable, now unstable" ;-)

Mind you, the problem was actually in "broken", I mean, "frozen".


Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: Should be installing Linux soon. Questions.

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> 1. Could someone please explain X-Windows to me.

You realise that entire volumes have been written on that topic? :-)

> What are desktop environments,

A desktop environment is a bunch of X programs that are designed to work well
together. Typically, there's some sort of button-bar for launching the
individual pieces (file browser, mail program, whatever else is there). To
complete the look'n'feel, some desktop environments include their own window
manager.

> window managers, etc.?

A window manager is a program that provides title bars to windows, so that you
can move them, resize them, iconify them etc. It also provides menus on the
"desktop" and on the title bars.

Theoretically, windows come without title bars. In practice, you always have a
window manager running, so you almost never see that. The only time I've seen
it is when I quit out of one window manager and start another (you can do that
while applications are running).

> Does it have a spell checker.

A spell checker is fairly standard in Linux. Debian definitely has one (for
quite a few languages).

> 3. I currently have two networked computers. Both with Windoze 98. I am only
> going to install Linux on one of them. Is there any way that I could network
> them so when I install Linux, I can FTP Netscape, KDE, Star Office, etc.
> from the Windoze computer to the Linux one?

Better still - you can have Linux show up in the network neighborhood. I'm
using that here at home - my Linux computer shows up as T: on my Win95 box.
Let me know if you want any more details...


HTH

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: suid script

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> > Because shell scripts are supposidly very often full of securitry holes when
> > suid.
...
> the executable (bash, whatever) opens the file 
> it closes it
> it changes uid/gid to reflect suid status -> so it becames root or whatever
> it reopens it
> and executes it

The way I remember it is:

1) kernel opens the file, finds it suid
2) kernel executes the shell with that uid
3) shell opens the same filename

If some fast file-moving is done between (1) and (3), one can substitute
something else for the suid script.

Don't forget the user can copy / link a suid script into his home directory.

> I heard that some Unix systems (Solaris i think but not sure) provide a way to
> overcome this by feeding the script to the executable through /dev/3 or
> something like it (like a new STDIN)

Presumably the kernel hands the open file to the shell, rather than the
filename - which agrees with what you are saying (file handle 3).


The other way is to use sudo which grants access based on the filename rather
than on the inode information. Since the filename is what the shell is given,
you get agreement between the two.


HTH

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: Is this really the right thing to do?

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> An option for showing only those packages that nothing depends on 
> could be useful.

That bit's easy. My first PERL script did that. But what about alternatives?

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
#!/usr/bin/perl

print <) {
  next unless /^Status:\s*\S+ ok installed\s*?$/mi;

  s/^(\S+?:)/lc($1)/emg;
  %pkg = ('',split /^(\S+?):\s*/m); chomp %pkg;

  $_ = "$pkg{depends},$pkg{recommends},$pkg{'pre-depends'}";
  s/\(.*?\)//g; s/\|/,/g; s/\s+//g; s/,,/,/g; s/,$//; s/^,//;
  for (split /,/) {$used{$_}=1};

  next if $pkg{essential} =~ /yes/i or $pkg{priority} =~ /required/i;

  push @inst,$pkg{package};
  $desc{$pkg{package}}=$pkg{description} if $v;
}

if ($v) {
  for (sort @inst) {print "$_ - $desc{$_}\n\n" unless $used{$_}};
} else {
  for (sort @inst) {print "$_\n" unless $used{$_}};
}


Re: Newbie needs help

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

Firstly, I'm not sure which way you'll want to go, so please don't hesitate to
ask me for more details on some point that I skim over...

> The install worked fine (minus I can't boot from the HD).

I don't have any experience with this, but the most common response I've seen
to this problem is: have you re-run lilo?

> I'm having problems with the FTP.  The modem connects fine to my ISP
> (i'm using ppp) but when I try to open a site I get "unable to look up
> host" error.

Have you tried to ftp by IP number?

> Also I have no clue how to install the software packages. 

Probably easiest to get FTP working first, and then tell dselect to use the
ftp access method. That way it'll do everything for you.

> I tried to download to floppy and then transfer over (which is a problem
> since my zip program doesn't do a split) and then run DSELECT.  When I
> choose the floppy access method, it says to enter the floppy with the
> packages file. 

The Packages file is a list of all the packages.

Since you only downloaded an individual deb, it's probably easier to do it
manually. Mount the floppy

  mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt

and then install the packages with dpkg

  dpkg -i /mnt/*.deb

Don't forget to unmount the floppy afterwards

  umount /mnt

Note that if dpkg complains about a missing dependency, it means it *hasn't*
installed that package (so don't delete it yet).


You can switch between using dselect and using dpkg as you wish - so you can
use dselect for ordinary stuff, but dpkg when there's something special (like
broken ftp, or if you need to use force).

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: problems+suggestions

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,


Did you *intend* to upgrade to slink? I have the feeling that you might be
upgrading to it inadvertently, which would explain most of your problems...

If so, you'll have to consider what you want to do now. In general, unless you
have a particular reason to go for unstable or frozen, it's probably best to
stick with the stable distribution as much as possible. However, if you got
this far already, it might be easier to stay here than to go back.


Glossary:
  2.0 = hamm = stable  (the latest released version)
  2.1 = slink = frozen (the next version, not yet released)
  2.2 = potato = unstable  (the version after that)

> I'll take the suggestion first :)

Others already answered this.

BTW, many Debian programs will give you a short help text if you run them with
just a --help switch, for example:

  dpkg --help

> And well, wouldn't it be possible to have a HUGE warning if trying to remove
> things that dselect (or whatever package program running) depends on?

Actually, dselect won't let you do that at all, and the dpkg help says:
"WARNING - use of options marked [!] can seriously damage your installation."
for the relevant option.

> dselect: error in loading shared libraries
> /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol
> __register__frame__info
> 
> What deb(s) do I have to do to fix it?

Actually, this isn't a problem with a missing deb, it's a miscompiled library.

You'll need to download the very latest libstdc++ (check Incoming just to make
sure) and manually install that:

  dpkg -i filename.deb

> As if that wasn't enough, I can't start X anymore after upgrading the
> hardware. I swapped motherboard+mem+kbd+mouse(from ps/2 to serial). It
> just hangs on a black screen or the gray grid like screen at X startup..

Two suggestions:

  (a) Fix the __register_frame_info problem first, just in case it's related.

  (b) If you are upgrading to slink from hamm, the X packages were
  reorganized; you'll be almost certainly missing xterm, and maybe other
  things. Make sure you either have the old xbase or the new xterm (depending
  on what you want to do).

  (xterm is the program that gives you a command prompt in X)


HTH

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: Unused libs for deletion?

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello Gunnar,

> Is there some script I can use to find out which installed packages
> aren't used by other packages.

Something like the below?

Note that it doesn't even attempt to do are alternatives and virtual packages.
This means that it'll miss some things that aren't necessary, and it'll list
some things that provide something useful.


Hope it helps...

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--
#!/usr/bin/perl

print <) {
  next unless /^Status:\s*\S+ ok installed\s*?$/mi;

  s/^(\S+?:)/lc($1)/emg;
  %pkg = ('',split /^(\S+?):\s*/m); chomp %pkg;

  $_ = "$pkg{depends},$pkg{recommends},$pkg{'pre-depends'}";
  s/\(.*?\)//g; s/\|/,/g; s/\s+//g; s/,,/,/g; s/,$//; s/^,//;
  for (split /,/) {$used{$_}=1};

  next if $pkg{essential} =~ /yes/i or $pkg{priority} =~ /required/i;

  push @inst,$pkg{package};
  $desc{$pkg{package}}=$pkg{description} if $v;
}

if ($v) {
  for (sort @inst) {print "$_ - $desc{$_}\n\n" unless $used{$_}};
} else {
  for (sort @inst) {print "$_\n" unless $used{$_}};
}



Re: No more C++ ?

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,
 
> Really?  I couldn't find that thread.  In any case, the problem is
> that there's no file libstdc++.so - I fixed this by (as root) doing
> the following:
>   cd /usr/lib
>   ln -s libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.so libstdc++.so

Did you try ldconfig first? It *should* do this for you - that's its job.
(Just wondering if you didn't think of it or if something's broken...)

Hmm, I guess something's broken either way, because the relevant postinst
should have run ldconfig for you.

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: how to shut pppd in script

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> The idea is to disconnect from ISP after all scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/
> are executed.

I do this also. My way is to have a script in ip-up.d, called "zzz-hangup",
which calls "poff" - that way it doesn't have to check anything (the scripts
get done in alphabetical order).

>   kill 'cat /var/run/ppp0.pid'
...
> kill 'cat /var/run/ppp0.pid'

You need backticks (`) in both cases. Like this:

  kill `cat /var/run/ppp0.pid`

However, since poff exists, it's probably better to use that.


HTH

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: Rar for Linux

1998-12-04 Thread Thomas Adams
On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 09:54:59AM +1100, Austanners Wet Blue Pty Ltd wrote:
> I have a copy of rar for linux, in the form of the file rarlinux. How do i 
> install or execute this?
> I have done a chmod (755) on the file

What does `file rarlinux` say?


Re: dpkg-source -x

1998-12-04 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Daniel Elenius wrote:

> Is it possible when installing a debian package with:
> 
> dpkg-source -x packagename.dsc
> , followed by ./configure, make, make install,

The correct method is:

dpkg-source -x packagename.dsc
cd packagename.dsc
debian/rules build
debian/rules binary

cd ..
dpkg -i packagename.deb

> to get dpkg/dselect to understand that the package has been installed, 
> so that I can later uninstall it with dpkg/dselect?

If you do this, then yes.

HTH,

Matthew

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RE: USR; dialing wrong number

1998-12-04 Thread Shaleh

On 04-Dec-98 Eugene Sevinian wrote:
> Hi all,
> Could someone explain my why the USR33600 modem which was working 
> without any problem under w95 does not work under Debian. It simply 
> pretends that it works but dial absolutly wrong phone number :(((.
> The only differens is that under w95 it  was installed with explicitly 
> set port/irq. However,on my computer, which has w95 as well, it is set to
> PNP mode. Any tips are welcomed.
> 

Eugene, the phone number is controlled by the script in /etc/chatscripts/. 
Edit the number after the ATDT.


USR; dialing wrong number

1998-12-04 Thread Eugene Sevinian
Hi all,
Could someone explain my why the USR33600 modem which was working 
without any problem under w95 does not work under Debian. It simply 
pretends that it works but dial absolutly wrong phone number :(((.
The only differens is that under w95 it  was installed with explicitly 
set port/irq. However,on my computer, which has w95 as well, it is set to
PNP mode. Any tips are welcomed.

TIA,
Eugene



Re: What installation with Debian 2.0?

1998-12-04 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:51:43 +0100 Georg Lohrer writes:
> after many obstacles I have running a Debian 2.0 installation. But
> without looking at the cryptic usage of dselect it's still a secret
> for me what installation is the best/correct/only one. On the CD-ROM
> are the directories:

[...]

> What's with these different directories?

You are using the JFL CD-ROM set, aren't you?  All 4 directories are
actually the same, there are some symlinks causing this trouble.  You
can choose any one of those.  

Torsten

BTW: Please disable HTML postings/mailings.


Re: suid script

1998-12-04 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: 03 Dec 1998 12:58:14 -0600 john  writes:
> 
> Joey Hess writes:
>> Because shell scripts are supposidly very often full of securitry holes when
>> suid.
> 
> There's a bit more to it.  There is a race condition that would
> permit you to substitute a script of your choice for the suid script
> and have it run suid.

Other Unixes provides an alternate mechanismus[1].  Is it secure and
does Linux support it?

Torsten

Footnotes: 
[1] The kernel opens the script by itself and the interpreter/shell
uses a /dev/fd/ devices to access the already open file.


Re: Unused libs for deletion?

1998-12-04 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:06:15 +0100 Gunnar Isaksson writes:
> 
> Is there some script I can use to find out which installed packages
> aren't used by other packages.
> 
> It's about time for me to get rid of all the unused libraries that
> has been installed when testing various games and other stuff.
> 
> I need some simple way to list all such deletion candidates. Is
> there a script for this somewhere?

I will email Gunnar a little perl script I wrote recently.  If more
people are interested please tell me and I will put it onto my
webpage.

Torsten


pcmcia card...

1998-12-04 Thread Alan Su
Hi everyone-

i'm having some problems with pcmcia on a laptop here.  i'm trying to
get it to recognize a 3com 3c575bt cardbus ethernet card, and the
stock pcmcia modules aren't cutting it.  so, i'm installing hamm from
scratch.  then, i install new libc6 (v2.0.7u) so that i can install
v3.0.6 pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules (modules corresponding to the
2.0.34 kernel).  this actually works pretty well, and at this point,
the card is usable with the kernel that comes in the kernel-image
package.

now i want to recompile the kernel for apm, ps/2 mouse, etc., so i:
 - install kernel-source (still version 2.0.34)
 - reconfigure kernel for apm, ps/2, and pcmcia
 - compile and install new kernel image.

when i reboot with the newly compiled kernel, the 3c575_cb module
doesn't want to load.  the relevant errors are:
 pcmcia/3c575_cb.o: unresolved symbol netif_rx_R6a97aa56
 pcmcia/3c575_cb.o: unresolved symbol unregister_netdev_R84fb480b
 pcmcia/3c575_cb.o: unresolved symbol init_etherdev_Rc8833d67
 pcmcia/3c575_cb.o: unresolved symbol dev_kfree_skb_R61d50ea2
 pcmcia/3c575_cb.o: unresolved symbol eth_type_trans_R81c3bb43
 pcmcia/3c575_cb.o: unresolved symbol dev_alloc_skb_R36d7a14b

are there kernel configuration options that i've missed in order to
get these symbols defined?  do i basically need to install
pcmcia-source and recompile modules myself?  thanks in advance...

-alan


Re: Xemacs scrolling

1998-12-04 Thread servis
*- Daniel Elenius wrote about "Xemacs scrolling"
> I would really like it if xemacs didn't scroll two lines short of a
> full screen on C-v/M-v. Is this configurable?
> 
> 

Lets see:

The help(describe-key) for C-v says
===
C-v runs `scroll-up'

`scroll-up' is an interactive built-in function
(scroll-up &optional N)

Scroll text of current window upward ARG lines; or near full screen if no ARG.
A near full screen is `next-screen-context-lines' less than a full screen.
Negative ARG means scroll downward.
When calling from a program, supply a number as argument or nil.

If `signal-error-on-buffer-boundary' is nil, the usual error and
loss of zmacs region is suppressed when moving past end of buffer.
==

And the help(describe-variable) for next-screen-context-lines says
==
`next-screen-context-lines' is a built-in integer variable.

Value: 2

Documentation:
*Number of lines of continuity when scrolling by screenfuls.
==

So it looks like you need to put a 

(setq next-screen-context-lines N)

in your .emacs and change N to whatever number you want.

Hope this helps,
-- 
Brian 
-
"Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes,  
 because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." 
   - unknown  

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Upgrading from hamm to slink

1998-12-04 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
I've decided I can't wait any longer and want to perform the upgrade
from hamm to slink this weekend. Is there anything I need to watch out
for? My plan is to first upgrade to the latest version of apt (I think
I'm using 0.16 on my hamm system) and then just firing off an "apt-get
dist-upgrade" from a slink mirror on my local disk. Any caveats? Any
documents I should read first?

TIA,
Gary


Re: dpkg-source -x

1998-12-04 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Daniel Elenius wrote:

> Is it possible when installing a debian package with:
> 
> dpkg-source -x packagename.dsc
> , followed by ./configure, make, make install,
> 
> to get dpkg/dselect to understand that the package has been installed, 
> so that I can later uninstall it with dpkg/dselect?

No, because that would be the wrong way.

The right way to install a package "from the source" would be:

dpkg-source -c packagename.dsc
cd packagename
debian/rules build
su
debian/rules binary
cd ..
dpkg -i packagename.deb 

Then yes, you will be able to uninstall it by using dpkg.


dpkg-source -x

1998-12-04 Thread Daniel Elenius
Is it possible when installing a debian package with:

dpkg-source -x packagename.dsc
, followed by ./configure, make, make install,

to get dpkg/dselect to understand that the package has been installed, 
so that I can later uninstall it with dpkg/dselect?


VM and mail folders

1998-12-04 Thread Daniel Elenius
Hi list!
I hope some kind soul can help me with this problem. I use
fetchmail/procmail/VM for mailing system, and I have the following
problem:

When I start VM, the contents of my /var/spool/mail/daniel are moved
to ~/INBOX, which is good, since it voids the problem of the mailbox
being written to by procmail while I'm reading it.
The problem is that this doesn't apply to my other mail folders. For
example, I have this list in ~/mail/debian. In VM, to read the mail in 
that folder, I just open that file, but it's not copied to its own
INBOX, which I would like. Can this be done with VM? If not, how does
it work with other mail readers?
Thanks in advance.


Xemacs scrolling

1998-12-04 Thread Daniel Elenius
I would really like it if xemacs didn't scroll two lines short of a
full screen on C-v/M-v. Is this configurable?


RE: Subjects not so comfortable

1998-12-04 Thread Brandon Mitchell
> > I have a small config feeling question?
> > Since we spawn hundreds of messages each day, it
> > would be more comfortable to have a constant string
> > in subjects such as [ DEBIAN ] that allows easy

> You could filter on part of the footer.  I hae my xfmail filter set to
> work on debian-user string in the message.

Of course the proper way is with the X-Mailing-List header :-)

Brandon

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GPM + Xemacs

1998-12-04 Thread Daniel Elenius
I am unable to copy text with gpm into my xemacs (that is, in the
console, not X). The other way doesn't work either. I can't even copy
within xemacs with the mouse.  Anyone knows how this can be fixed? 


Re: [how to shut pppd in script]

1998-12-04 Thread Vladimir Popov
Hi,

Thanks to all responded, the problem was cured by specifying full path
for each command (thanks, Javi).

best regards,
Vladimir


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ACER extensa 390

1998-12-04 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Hi

I have an ACER Extensa 390 and I am having problems with the
configuration o X11.

I have Debian 2.0.

Any sugestions?

At\'e breve

Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Departamento de Matem\'atica
Faculdade de Ci\^encias e Tecnologia
Universidade de Coimbra
P-3000 COIMBRA, PORTUGAL
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.mat.uc.pt/~pedro/
phone: 351 39 791170


RE: Subjects not so comfortable

1998-12-04 Thread Mark Ciciretti
You could filter on part of the footer.  I hae my xfmail filter set to
work on debian-user string in the message.
 
On 04-Dec-98 Andrea Novara wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have a small config feeling question?
> Since we spawn hundreds of messages each day, it
> would be more comfortable to have a constant string
> in subjects such as [ DEBIAN ] that allows easy
> filtering.
> 
> If anyone have better suggestions or cat filter
> using other header than from, can mail such
> tips? I'm using elm's filter program now!
> 
> Many thanks
> -- 
> Saluti, Andrea
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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> 
> There's no Linux 95 or 98 because Linux is forever!!
> 
> 
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RE: What's in kernel 2.1/2.2?

1998-12-04 Thread Mark Ciciretti
IIRC there was an article about the 2.2 kernel in the December issue of
Linux Jornal.  It might be on the web page , http://www.linuxjornal.com ,
if you don't get the magazine.  For information about the 2.0 and 2.1
kernels look at LinuxHQ, http://www.linuxhq.com .  The kernel patches
section list what was changed from the previous release of the kernel, and
there is a link the the actual kernel patch
 
On 04-Dec-98 Moore, Paul wrote:
> Hi,
> I see that people are hoping for kernel 2.2 to be released by Christmas.
> I've looked (honest!) and yet I can't see a straightforward list of the
> major new features expected in 2.1/2.2. Can anybody point me at
> something I could look at? (Short of the sources :-)
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul Moore.

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RE: Subjects not so comfortable

1998-12-04 Thread Darren Benham
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There's a header line that I use to sort by.  In one of messages, look for:

X-Mailing-List:

It will list what mailing list the message came from and you should be able to
sort by it.

On 04-Dec-98 Andrea Novara wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have a small config feeling question?
> Since we spawn hundreds of messages each day, it
> would be more comfortable to have a constant string
> in subjects such as [ DEBIAN ] that allows easy
> filtering.
> 
> If anyone have better suggestions or cat filter
> using other header than from, can mail such
> tips? I'm using elm's filter program now!
> 
> Many thanks

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autofs question

1998-12-04 Thread Tim Buller
Hi all-
Is it possible to use the autofs (kernel based automounter)
package to do Sun hosts type maps? Thanks,

Tim


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RE: error linking X11 lib (FIXED)

1998-12-04 Thread Mário Olímpio de Menezes
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Shaleh wrote:

> Make sure you have xlib6g-dev and/or xlib6-dev (for libc5)

very strange that I have xlib6g-dev installed and libX11.so was missing. I
reinstalled it and it's fixed now. 

Thanks,

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes | "Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP   | is the Lord's purpose that prevails" Prov. 19.21


RE: error linking X11 lib

1998-12-04 Thread Mário Olímpio de Menezes
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Shaleh wrote:

> Make sure you have xlib6g-dev and/or xlib6-dev (for libc5)

just after I replyed I checked the file list for xlib6g-dev and found that
libX11.so is missing in my system. Is it a symlink for libX11.so.6.1?
Thanks

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes | "Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP   | is the Lord's purpose that prevails" Prov. 19.21



Re: Who's the ian part in Debian?

1998-12-04 Thread Mitch Blevins
zhaoway wrote:
> Just curiousity from a, hmmm  :-)
> Who is the ian part in debian?
> Ian Jackson or Ian Murdock? What's the relationship between the two?
> And where'e debra mentioned in the debian faq? Just curiosity, 
> in no means I want to be offensive. And sorry for my poor english :-)

http://debian.org/intro/about#history


Re: error linking X11 lib

1998-12-04 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Mário Olímpio de Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|
| The error is:
| gcc -O -I../inc -I/user/openwin/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -o
| ../bin/Linux/hierarchy hierarchy.c ../lib/Linux/libIM.a
| ../lib/Linux/libFFT.a ../lib/Linux/libjpeg.a -lm -L/usr/lib
| -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib/X11 -lX11
| ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory

Do you have xlib6g-dev installed?

ld wants to find /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so, but that is a symlink
made by the -dev package.

--
Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up)
   (Brian White)
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RE: error linking X11 lib

1998-12-04 Thread Mário Olímpio de Menezes
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Shaleh wrote:

> Make sure you have xlib6g-dev and/or xlib6-dev (for libc5)

 linux1: ~/progs/magick$ dpkg -s xlib6g-dev 
Package: xlib6g-dev
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 3234
Maintainer: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: xfree86
Version: 3.3.2.3a-8


xlib6-dev isn't installed (but I'm running slink).

thanks


Mario O.de Menezes | "Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP   | is the Lord's purpose that prevails" Prov. 19.21


Dual Booting w/Lilo ?

1998-12-04 Thread Kenneth Scharf
 
  From:
AJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello,
im a sort of *new* debian user (used it like 3 years on shells..
installed it like 3 weeks ago). anyway heres my question:
Right now im booting from a linux bootdisk which a) takes a few minutes
and b) is a pain in th ass...
Now i know if i use lilo linux will boot only but i also have a
windows95 partition that i need to use for some stuff like games and
junk that i cant do in linux.
Is it possible that when i turn on my computer i get a 'BOOT:' prompt
and i can type either: 'win' for windows or 'linux' for linux using
Lilo? if i can.. can someone give me an example of there lilo.conf file

thanx (sorry if this sounds confusing i didnt know how to write it any
other way),
AJ
-
Sure...just ad the following two lines to your /etc/lilo.conf:

other = /dev/hda1
label = windows

then run /sbin/lilo to write to disk.


This assumes that your windows partition is the first on your hard
disk, with linux being the second and third (for swap and os)

Now at the boot prompt (or at the lilo prompt hit left space to get
the boot prompt) type linux or windows.  If you forget what labels you
have, then hit  at the boot prompt.  Do nothing (if lilo is
configured not to prompt, with a timeout) and you get linux by
default.  You can of course make windows the default if you want by
specifing windows as the first thing lilo tries to boot.  

See man pages for lilo.conf and lilo.

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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


libstdc++.so.2.8 problem

1998-12-04 Thread Janne Lof

I just updated debian (slink) via dselect, there was about 40MB of updated
stuff and I did not look very carefully what got upgraded (I know I should
have been more careful).

Now I get this error with many programs (with dselect for example):

dselect: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info

What went wrong and what can I do to fix it?

I have following libstdc packages installed:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp# dpkg -l | grep libstdc
ii  libstdc++2.82.90.29-1  The GNU stdc++ library (old egcs version)
ii  libstdc++2.92.91.58-5  The GNU stdc++ library (egcs version)
ii  libstdc++2.9-de 2.91.58-5  The GNU stdc++ library (development files)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp# ldconfig -p | grep libstdc
libstdc++.so.272 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.272
libstdc++.so.27 (libc5) => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libstdc++.so.27
libstdc++.so.2.9 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.9
libstdc++.so.2.8 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8
libstdc++.so.2.7.2 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.7.2
libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2


-- 
Janne Löf



RE: Who's the ian part in Debian?

1998-12-04 Thread Shaleh
Ian Murdock is the "ian".  Debra is his wife.

Ian Jackson is just another Ian (we have a few).

On 04-Dec-98 zhaoway wrote:
> Just curiousity from a, hmmm  :-)
> Who is the ian part in debian?
> Ian Jackson or Ian Murdock? What's the relationship between the two?
> And where'e debra mentioned in the debian faq? Just curiosity, 
> in no means I want to be offensive. And sorry for my poor english :-)


Re: Understanding /root Re: My solution

1998-12-04 Thread Alexander N. Benner
Hi

Now I also want to write :)

Ship's Log, Lt. Jiri Baum, Stardate 041298.1122:
> 
> > Usually, when you see a system with a bunch of mount points, it's because
> > there's more than one disk.  Using 4 2GB drives is better than one 8GB
> > drive because:
> And a couple of others:
> 
>   3. cheaper
> 
>   4. you can do RAID if you like

one more :
I have a 2 GB partition and it neets hours to be checked. I would not want to
wait for a 8GB partition.
Sure now I have to wait for the others to ...
But geuess how fast my 60MB / is ready in case of an emergency ...


Filesystem 1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hdb1  63885   2864231944 47%   /
/dev/hdb9 761184  142804   579045 20%   /var
/dev/hdb52270179 210241050415 98%   /usr
/dev/hdb61014784  481124   481221 50%   /usr/local
/dev/hdb71014784  423447   538898 44%   /home
/dev/hdb81014784   71737   890608  7%   /tmp
/dev/hda3 653192  56610353347 91%   
/home/ftp/pub/data/sounds
/dev/hda1 307240  21889688344 71%   /misc/d00F

*sigh* I guess I need a new HD ...
(oh yes, the last one is my win partition 300MB should be enough for everyone
...)

bye
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Re: Subjects not so comfortable

1998-12-04 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Andrea Novara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|
| I have a small config feeling question?
| Since we spawn hundreds of messages each day, it
| would be more comfortable to have a constant string
| in subjects such as [ DEBIAN ] that allows easy
| filtering.
| 
| If anyone have better suggestions or cat filter
| using other header than from, can mail such
| tips? I'm using elm's filter program now!

Filtering on the subject may not be the safest solution. This
list has a header like this:

X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org

That should be a safe line to filter on.

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in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds)
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RE: error linking X11 lib

1998-12-04 Thread Shaleh
Make sure you have xlib6g-dev and/or xlib6-dev (for libc5)

On 04-Dec-98 Mário Olímpio de Menezes wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   I'm trying to compile some programs (like example.c) from
> imagemagick package, that require -lX11 option in gcc/g++ command line.
> Every time I tried this, I get an error from ld not been able to find
> libX11. But they are all installed.
> 
>linux1: ~# ldconfig -p | grep libX11
> libX11.so.6 (ELF) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
> libX11.so.6 (libc4) => /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout/libX11.so.6
> libX11.so.6 (ELF) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
> libX11.so.6 (libc5) => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6
> libX11.so.3 (libc4) => /usr/X11R5/lib/libX11.so.3
> 
> The error is:
> gcc -O -I../inc -I/user/openwin/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -o
> ../bin/Linux/hierarchy hierarchy.c ../lib/Linux/libIM.a
> ../lib/Linux/libFFT.a ../lib/Linux/libjpeg.a -lm -L/usr/lib
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib/X11 -lX11
> ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory
> 
>   What I'm doing wrong here? 
>   Thanks,
> []s,
> Mario O.de Menezes | "Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
> IPEN-CNEN/SP   | is the Lord's purpose that prevails" Prov. 19.21
> 
> 
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error linking X11 lib

1998-12-04 Thread Mário Olímpio de Menezes

Hi,

I'm trying to compile some programs (like example.c) from
imagemagick package, that require -lX11 option in gcc/g++ command line.
Every time I tried this, I get an error from ld not been able to find
libX11. But they are all installed.

 linux1: ~# ldconfig -p | grep libX11
libX11.so.6 (ELF) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
libX11.so.6 (libc4) => /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout/libX11.so.6
libX11.so.6 (ELF) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
libX11.so.6 (libc5) => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6
libX11.so.3 (libc4) => /usr/X11R5/lib/libX11.so.3

The error is:
gcc -O -I../inc -I/user/openwin/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -o
../bin/Linux/hierarchy hierarchy.c ../lib/Linux/libIM.a
../lib/Linux/libFFT.a ../lib/Linux/libjpeg.a -lm -L/usr/lib
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib/X11 -lX11
ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory

What I'm doing wrong here? 
Thanks,
[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes | "Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP   | is the Lord's purpose that prevails" Prov. 19.21


Re: Subjects not so comfortable

1998-12-04 Thread Mike Miller
> "Andrea" == Andrea Novara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi!  I have a small config feeling question?  Since we
> spawn hundreds of messages each day, it would be more
> comfortable to have a constant string in subjects such as
> [ DEBIAN ] that allows easy filtering.

There is an X-Mailing-List header that you can filter on - it
includes the list name.

Mike


Re: Kernel build

1998-12-04 Thread prabenec
i forgot to say: you can continue where you ended, with make zImage
time isn't lost - hey, i'ts linux !

--
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   one night is all that stands between them and freedom-
   but it's going to be one hell of a night

--- Begin Message ---


 

Javier Velasco schrieb:
hi javier
 Hi Debian
users: 
 I am trying to build a custom
kernel based on hamm. Basically I am trying to generate a new kernel with
Initio scsi card support, for Pentium processor and only the basic modules
I need at home (no more scsi drivers, a few filesystems etc). My
problem is that when "make zImage" gets to compile the files under ...arch/i386/boot
it gest stuck because it is missing as86. I have looked around the 3 CD
of the official hamm distribution but couldn´t find it. I also tried
to assemble the files with as, but with no success. I
will appreciate any help. Thanx
in advance.
 
you have to install (besides the
kernel-sources-package):
the kernel-package
bin86 (herein is the as86)-16-bit
assembler and loader
--
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   one night is all that stands between them and freedom-
   but it's going to be one hell of a night
 


--- End Message ---


Re: Kernel build

1998-12-04 Thread prabenec


 

Javier Velasco schrieb:
hi javier
 Hi Debian
users: 
 I am trying to build a custom
kernel based on hamm. Basically I am trying to generate a new kernel with
Initio scsi card support, for Pentium processor and only the basic modules
I need at home (no more scsi drivers, a few filesystems etc). My
problem is that when "make zImage" gets to compile the files under ...arch/i386/boot
it gest stuck because it is missing as86. I have looked around the 3 CD
of the official hamm distribution but couldn´t find it. I also tried
to assemble the files with as, but with no success. I
will appreciate any help. Thanx
in advance.
 
you have to install (besides the
kernel-sources-package):
the kernel-package
bin86 (herein is the as86)-16-bit
assembler and loader
--
    Peter Rabenecker
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   one night is all that stands between them and freedom-
   but it's going to be one hell of a night
 




Re: Linux newbie needs help

1998-12-04 Thread MallarJ
I'd suggest you read over the GCC-HOWTO... But the gcc compiler can be found
at:

ftp://ftp.debian.org/net/ac121/linux/distributions/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-
i386/devel

-Jay 

In a message dated 12/3/98 1:59:33 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> 
>  Uh, help. Where can I get a C-Compiler?
>  


Re: aol.com not blocked anymore? (was Re: just a test - please ignore)

1998-12-04 Thread MallarJ
Well, if you read this, I suppose that block has been lifted (maybe just in my
case?).  IMHO, blocking AOL is a BAD idea - I can understand the need to
control spam, but stopping messages from the world's number one e-mail service
isn't a very friendly thing to do.  There are people that still use AOL
constantly (especially here at the office) and run Linux as well.

I do have other e-mail accounts tho - so if I have to, I'll switch to my
Bigfoot address.  :)

My 2 cents
-Jay

In a message dated 12/3/98 12:39:53 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I always thought aol.com has been blocked, because the signal to spam
>  ratio is so high?
>  
>  Jens
>  
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  
>  > Sorry, but I needed to test my connection to this list - my messages
don't
>  > seem to be going out.
>  


Re: Dual Booting w/Lilo ?

1998-12-04 Thread Sean Johnson
Fist you need to boot up under linux, then using your favorite text editor (I 
like vi) open up your 
/etc/lilo.conf file.

delete the line that says 'delay='
replace it with the word 'prompt'

Then move to the end of the file, and add these lines:

other=/dev/hda
table=/dev/hda
label=95


If you're not sure which partition your W95 and Linux partions are on, switch 
to another terminal 
(Alt-F2), logon, and type: fdisk   Then at the prompt type the letter 'p' and 
enter. Your Windows95 
partition will be your other primary partition (it must have the number 1, 2, 
3, or 4.  Anything 
above number 4 is a logical drive that is living in an extended partition.)

Then you want to make the Linux partition bootable (which you can do either 
from Linux or 
Windows95) using fdisk.  If you use Linux's fdisk, be sure that you only have 
one partition 
marked as being active.

Sean









At 12/4/98 8:33:00 AM, you wrote:
>Hello,
>im a sort of *new* debian user (used it like 3 years on shells..
>installed it like 3 weeks ago). anyway heres my question:
>Right now im booting from a linux bootdisk which a) takes a few minutes
>and b) is a pain in th ass...
>Now i know if i use lilo linux will boot only but i also have a
>windows95 partition that i need to use for some stuff like games and
>junk that i cant do in linux.
>Is it possible that when i turn on my computer i get a 'BOOT:' prompt
>and i can type either: 'win' for windows or 'linux' for linux using
>Lilo? if i can.. can someone give me an example of there lilo.conf file
>
>thanx (sorry if this sounds confusing i didnt know how to write it any
>other way),
>AJ
>
>
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>
>


Re: Dual Booting w/Lilo ?

1998-12-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
AJ wrote:
...
  >Is it possible that when i turn on my computer i get a 'BOOT:' prompt
  >and i can type either: 'win' for windows or 'linux' for linux using
  >Lilo? if i can.. can someone give me an example of there lilo.conf file

Here's a sample /etc/lilo.conf that allows booting from a choice of
kernels as well as Windows 95.  This configuration delays for 20 deciseconds 
before booting the first image in the list.  If you press  before the
time limit expires, you get a prompt.  lilo also has options to prompt by 
default, and to timeout and boot the default if the prompt is not answered 
within some time limit.  Edit to fit your circumstances and then
run /sbin/lilo to implement it:

boot=/dev/hda3
root=/dev/hda3
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
# Linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.1.125
  label=Linux
  append="mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra parport=auto"
  read-only
# Linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33
  label=Linux-33
  append="mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra"
  read-only
# Linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.34
  label=Linux-34
  append="mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra"
  read-only
# Windows 95
other=/dev/hda1
  label=Win95

If your Linux root partition is not on the same drive as your DOS/Windows C:
partition, you must make boot=/dev/hda (1st IDE drive) or /dev/sda (first
SCSI drive), whichever holds the C: partition.

If they are on the same drive, you can have boot the same as your root
partition, as I do here.  This is somewhat safer.

-- 
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  Therefore despise thou not the chastening of the  
  Almighty." Job 5:17 



Re: Dual Booting w/Lilo ?

1998-12-04 Thread Andrew Ivanov
Ok, this is my lilo.conf:



boot = /dev/hda
root = /dev/hdb2
install = /boot/boot.b
map = /boot/map
vga = normal
delay = 50
ramdisk = 0

read-only
default = linux

image = /vmlinuz
label = Debian
alias = linux

image = /boot/vmlinbackup
label = backup

other = /dev/hda1
label = MS
table = /dev/hda

Now, translating this:
hda is my C drive, which contains Win95 on it.
hdb is D drive with Linux on it.
hdb2 is where my / is.
If you got anymore questions, email me.
HTH,
 Andrew
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Re: Kernel build

1998-12-04 Thread Andrew Ivanov

Get bin86 package from debian site. 



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Re: Netgear NIC card support

1998-12-04 Thread ferret

This is a Tulip-compatible card. The origional card was actually a DECchip
Tulip, but the one with the Netgear logo is a Tulip clone. I don't know if
it's as good as the DECchip one, but I have gotten it to talk to a
network, using both kernel 2.0.34 and 2.1.125

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to try it out on a multi-card
configuration. I do know the DECchip works flawlessly with two (That's
what my gateway is running) and do know of another no-name card that my
ISP wanted me to use, that wouldn't work with another network card
installed. It just couldn't detect the interrupt.

Don't return the card unless you can't get it to work with either kernel's
Tulip driver. I have eight of these cards in my home network, including
one of the new ones, and I haven't yet had a problem. The drivers even
detected when I swapped my 10M hub for a 10/100 and worked at TX without
rebooting. I wish I could say the same for the one 3com card I'm using.

Hope this helps. I just happen to like Bay Networks.

--Ian


 On 1 Dec 1998, rathon wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I bought a Netgear Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter card - FX310tx by Bay Networks.
> 
> Then I looked thru the EthernetHOW-TO and this card is not listed anywhere.
> 
> I am using Debian2.0. Does this mean no driver, no support ???
> 
> Can anyone confirm for me pls ? 
> 
> I need to know if I should return this and get something else. The price
> was good though.
> 
> Regards,
> Rathon
> 
> 
> Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
> 
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What's in kernel 2.1/2.2?

1998-12-04 Thread Moore, Paul
Hi,
I see that people are hoping for kernel 2.2 to be released by Christmas.
I've looked (honest!) and yet I can't see a straightforward list of the
major new features expected in 2.1/2.2. Can anybody point me at
something I could look at? (Short of the sources :-)

Thanks,
Paul Moore.


Who's the ian part in Debian?

1998-12-04 Thread zhaoway
Just curiousity from a, hmmm  :-)
Who is the ian part in debian?
Ian Jackson or Ian Murdock? What's the relationship between the two?
And where'e debra mentioned in the debian faq? Just curiosity, 
in no means I want to be offensive. And sorry for my poor english :-)

--zhaoway


Re: proxy ftp software ?

1998-12-04 Thread Guido Bozzetto
> -> The 'squid' package offers a very flexible and configurable FTP and HTTP
> -> caching-proxy server.
> 
> yes but it uses http protocol which is not very good (means it's unusable)
> for FTP client;

Use TIS firewall toolkit: fwtk_1.3-1.deb from Debian 1.3 distribution.

 Bye Guido.
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+++
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|   \/ I | E-mail:   :-)   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | che si lambiche
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+++


Dual Booting w/Lilo ?

1998-12-04 Thread AJ
Hello,
im a sort of *new* debian user (used it like 3 years on shells..
installed it like 3 weeks ago). anyway heres my question:
Right now im booting from a linux bootdisk which a) takes a few minutes
and b) is a pain in th ass...
Now i know if i use lilo linux will boot only but i also have a
windows95 partition that i need to use for some stuff like games and
junk that i cant do in linux.
Is it possible that when i turn on my computer i get a 'BOOT:' prompt
and i can type either: 'win' for windows or 'linux' for linux using
Lilo? if i can.. can someone give me an example of there lilo.conf file

thanx (sorry if this sounds confusing i didnt know how to write it any
other way),
AJ


Re: Subjects not so comfortable

1998-12-04 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Andrea Novara wrote:

> I have a small config feeling question?
> Since we spawn hundreds of messages each day, it
> would be more comfortable to have a constant string
> in subjects such as [ DEBIAN ] that allows easy
> filtering.
> 
> If anyone have better suggestions or cat filter
> using other header than from, can mail such
> tips? I'm using elm's filter program now!

Please install the Debian procmail package and read

/usr/doc/procmail/QuickStart

It tells you how to filter lists like this one. 


Re: recommendations for an X news client?

1998-12-04 Thread Dave Swegen
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 08:27 +, Peter Bartosch wrote:
> }-> I'm looking for something better than knews and netscape's news client --
> }-> any suggestions?
> 
> slrn?
> 
> if you've used mutt slrn won't be a problem ;-)

You could try news-peruser. I believe the latest version has switched to
gtk+.

As for slrn I'd use it if it had an option to just download the headers
and mark interesting articles for later retrieval.

Cheers
Dave

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Compressing hard disk

1998-12-04 Thread Gregory Vandenbrouck
Hi,

Did someone managed to install e2compr-1.06.orig ?

My hard disk is too small to fit everything, and I heard e2compr was
acting as stacker. But I was unable to install it on my linux, the
compilation and the kernel patch both failed. I have a 2.0.34 kernel.

Has someone tried and managed to do it ? With what kernel version ? Is
someone planning to do a deb file ? ( does one exist already ) ?

TIA

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Subjects not so comfortable

1998-12-04 Thread Andrea Novara
Hi!

I have a small config feeling question?
Since we spawn hundreds of messages each day, it
would be more comfortable to have a constant string
in subjects such as [ DEBIAN ] that allows easy
filtering.

If anyone have better suggestions or cat filter
using other header than from, can mail such
tips? I'm using elm's filter program now!

Many thanks
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/boot

1998-12-04 Thread Kevin McMillan
Hello. 
 I am about to try Debian 2.0.2, in an effor to decide which of the
distributions I intend to keep on my small network. 
 Was using RH 5.2, and on initial install of RH, created a 10 Mb /boot
partition. 
 Will Debian optimally use the /boot partition, during the install and
during use, or should I repartition /boot , to include it in the  / 
(root)directory ?
 Thanks for any and all assistance.
Kevin McMillan


Re: remove mail periodically?

1998-12-04 Thread Michel Verdier
Jiri Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> If so, then you should be able to simply delete them with an appropriate
> "find" command, perhaps from a cron job (add a file to /etc/cron.daily).
> 
> Try:
>   find . -mtime 7 -exec ls -l {} \;

find would return files wich are exactly 7 days old.
he will need to launch this each day.
I ahve seen a tool on readhat named tmpwatch which removed files older than
an amount of hours.

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Re: upgrading libc6

1998-12-04 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to upgrade libc6 from 2.0.7t to 2.0.7u to use apt and wine.
>But when I type: " dpkg -i libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb  ", it prompts 
>  
>  libc6 conflicts with sysvinit (<< 2.75)
>   sysvinit (version 2.72-3) is installed.
>  dpkg: error processing libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb (--install):
>   conflicting packages - not installing libc6

Get libc6_2.0.7u-7.deb

Mike.
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Re: Linux cannot use swap bigger then 460Mb ?

1998-12-04 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Jan Krupa wrote:

> I have Pentium II, 512 Mb RAM, Linux debian 2.0,
> kernel 2.0.36
> I need quite big swap, so I created 7 swap partitions
> hda3,hda5,...,hda10, as seen below:
[...] 
> When the system is loading it prints that the 7 (seven)
> sawp partitions are activating, and that's mean that I have
> 860Mb of swap.
> 
> Unfortunately when the mathematica3.0 is running,
> after using ("consuming") all RAM memory it can only 
> use up to 460Mb of swap and then it prints message:
> 'out of memory' and exits the calculations

 Hmmm. You might want to ask on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
list. That's where the real kernel gurus hang out. I just saw today that
the 2.0.x kernels have problems with more than 960MB of RAM. The 2.1.X
kernels do better. The figure 512+460=972 is so close to that 960 number
that I wonder if they're related?

 I also know that Linux can't use more than 128MB of swap per partition,
but that doesn't seem to be your problem. I suppose you could see if maybe
there's a bad spot in one of the swap partitions - run mkswap again or
something.

 Beyond that, I can't really offer any suggestions. If it's any
consolation, I'm green with envy - I have a 486-100 with 64MB of RAM and
32MB of swap. :->

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles(248) 377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 "Economies don't like step functions." - Dr. Leonard Bieman



Re: how to shut pppd in script

1998-12-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
Vladimir Popov wrote:
  >Hi,
  >
  >The idea is to disconnect from ISP after all scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ ar
  >e
  >executed. When I run script:
  >
  >=
  >#!/bin/sh
  >if test -e shut.ppp
  >then
  >  echo "It exists"
  >else
  >  echo "It doesn't exists"
  >fi
  >=
  >
  >everything is ok. But when I place script
  >
  >=
  >#!/bin/sh
  >if test -e shut.ppp
  >then
  >  kill 'cat /var/run/ppp0.pid'
  >fi
  >=
  >
  >in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d it isn't working. If I run in command line  
  >
  >kill 'cat /var/run/ppp0.pid'
  >
  >it works. Where I'm wrong?

[I assume those single quotes (') are actually backquotes (`)? Otherwise
it would never work.]

I suspect that the ppp0.pid file is not written until after the ip-up
script has run.  Try putting a line in ip-up to test this:

  ls -l /var/run/ppp0.pid >/tmp/ppp.test 2>&1

and see what you get in /tmp/ppp.test.

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Re: HELP: jikes & libstdc++.so.2.8 probs

1998-12-04 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 15:56:15 +0100, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
> 
> what can i do to get this solved?

Install libstdc++2.8_2.90.29-2 which should be on most mirrors by now.

Ray
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Re: Is ssh version 2.0.x going to be added to Debian ?

1998-12-04 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 14:14:18 -0800, Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote:
> Is this going to be put into Debian at some time ?

Perhaps. If someone volunteers to package it.

> If not, what are the issue (not enough free time to do it,
> not-freeware-enough-license, etc) ?

SSH2's license defines "commercial use" more broadly than SSH1. So broad,
that the SSH1 maintainer isn't interested in packaging it.

Ray - who encourages people to work on a free SSH 2 protocol implemenatation
- see http://www.net.lut.ac.uk/psst/
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have the decency to betray his country.  
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Re: egcs 1.1.1

1998-12-04 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 21:20:51 -0600, Chris Frost wrote:
> Has anyone grabbed egcs 1.1.1 and compiled it?

The last egcs 1.1.1 prerelease (which is identical to the release) is
available in both frozen and unstable.

Ray
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between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would
have the decency to betray his country.  
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Re: Linux newbie needs help

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> Just successfully installed my first linux box with no problems. Now I want
> to install KDE.

If you are using Debian, you need to install it the Debian Way...

Most of KDE is in the contrib, X11, extra section. If you select it with
dselect or apt, it'll automatically download whatever else you need (Qt
library, JPEG library, etc). So you shouldn't need to worry about it.

If you are doing it manually with dpkg, it'll tell you what's missing and you
have to go get it yourself before it'll let you go on.

> In the KDE install guide, it says that I need the Qt library.

The Qt library is in the qt1g package (non-free, libraries, optional). If you
install via dselect or apt, you don't need to worry about it.

> I downloaded Qt, untar-ed it. When I type ./configure (like 
> it says to do in INSTALL) it says: 
...
> Uh, help. Where can I get a C-Compiler?

It's called gcc, and Debian has it in the main, devel, standard section.
However, you don't need it for installing packages from Debian, because
they're all available pre-compiled.

> One more thing. Are there any free POP3 clients for Linux?

Yes.

In Unix the mail system is standardized, so you'll need several parts: a POP
fetcher (such as "fetchmail"), a user program (such as "mutt" or "elm" or
"pine" or whatever) and a program for general mail delivery, such as "exim".

All these are available within Debian.

The setup is like this:

   outside world
  |  ^
  |  |
  v  |
  fetchmail  /
  | / 
  |/
  v   /
mutt  <--->  exim

Terminology you'll see elsewhere:
  exim is a Mail Transport Agent (MTA)
  mutt is a Mail User Agent (MUA)


HTH

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: Understanding /root, /usr, /var and so on

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> ->   the /usr is the main area comparable to WINDOWS PROGRAMMS,
> 
> it contains programs, sometimes configs, docs etc etc
  ^^^

I thought /usr is not allowed to contain configs?

Configs should go into /etc, /var, the user's home directory or the current
directory.


If you find a Debian package that has a config in /usr, it's a bug, because
FSSTND compliance is mandated by the Policy.

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: Understanding /root, /usr, /var and so on

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> Please help me for the right understanding:

I think you have it almost right...

>   the /root contains only the kernel and the device drivers,

Actually, that's just "/". It's called the root directory, but it's not
actually under /root. (/root is the administrator's working area.)

>   the /home is the working area / space for the user (with space for  
>   store of their own data?),

Yes. Each user gets a subdirectory of /home.

>   the /usr is the main area comparable to WINDOWS PROGRAMMS,

Yes. If memory serves, it can actually be on a read-only partition.

>   /var for printer, mail, newsgroups.

Yes - also for other sundry things that need to be written, including system
logs in /var/log


Let's see what other directories I have:

/tmp - temporary files

/bin, /sbin, /lib - (part of /) system programs (programs that need to be
available even when /usr is missing)

/boot - boot file

/dev - (part of /) devices

/etc - (part of /) configuration files

/initrd - no idea - what is this?

/mnt or /mount - some admins use one of these for all their mount points

/proc - system information (not actually on disk)


HTH

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: procmail autoreply script?

1998-12-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Felix K.K. Chang wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I use a procmail/fetchmail/smail combination. I know that exim is 
> the recommended mta now, but I do not want to change right now.
> I was wondering if someone could help me with the following problem.
> 
> I have a mail address at [EMAIL PROTECTED] This address will be obsolete
> within a few weeks so I want to reply to people who use that
> address that I have a different setup. I may not use a .forward file,
> btw.
> 
> I basically want a procmail entry that sends the mail to my inbox as
> usual
> but also replies to the sender with some message like 'please use
> address
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> 
> Can some procmail guru help me with this? I find the procmail docs
> somewhat unclear.

Install the procmail-lib package. Has many good examples. I use this for
my pgp reply script:


:0
* ^Subject:.*pgpkey
* ! ^FROM_DAEMON
* $ ! ^X-Loop: $MY_ADDR
{
# Save a copy just in case
:0 c:
pgp.requests

:0 fhw
| formail  -rI"Subject: PGP Key Request: Michael Beattie <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>" \
-I"From: Michael Beattie <$MY_ADDR>" \
-I"Precedence: junk" \
-I"X-Loop: $MY_ADDR" \
-I"Mime-Version: 1.0" \
-I"Content-Type: application/pgp; format=keys-only" \
-I"Content-Description: PGP Key: Michael Beattie <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>" \
-I"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit" 

:0 fbw
| cat - ; sh -c "pgp -kxaf $MY_ADDR 2>/dev/null"

:0 efbw
| cat - ; echo "Sorry, my PGP key is not available at the moment."

:0 w
* > 1
! -oi -t

}


HTH,

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Re: Understanding /root Re: My solution

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> > I decided to partition my hard disk into:
> > /boot   50MB
> > /home   50MB (maybe more)
> > /root   50MB
> > /var150MB (maybe more)
> > /usr700MB
> > /etc50MB
> > /swap   128MB
> > /dos200MB
> > /tmp50MB
> > -
> > Sum.1428MB  -> rest: 270MB for ???
> >
> >Would this be a good idea? Any criticism welcome!!!

Probably better to design it by starting out with everything in one big
partition ("/") and saying *why* you want things separate for each one.

As others have pointed out, having many partitions wastes space, because you
need to leave a bit to spare in each one separately. Perhaps more importantly,
it'll end up making things *messy* rather than organized, because when you run
out of space on one of them (and you will), you'll start putting things where
they don't belong, soft-linking them all over the place.

On my disk, the only thing I have separate is the swap partition.


That said, here's the things you might reasonably want to make separate:

Most likely:
  swap space - much more efficient
  /boot - if your disk is over 1023 cylinders and you boot with LILO

Maybe:
  /tmp, /var, /home - try & stop runaway processes (either 3 partitions or 1)
  /usr - to be mounted read-only

Probably not:
  /etc - some of the files are needed during boot
  /bin, /sbin, /lib - programs needed for boot and minimal admin
  /root - too small to worry about

You can, of course, divide it finer - eg have a partition for /var/spool to
guard against mailbombs, but leave the rest of /var on the root partition.

> Usually, when you see a system with a bunch of mount points, it's because
> there's more than one disk.  Using 4 2GB drives is better than one 8GB
> drive because:
> 
>   1.  if one drive goes down, you only lose the data on that one drive,
>   not the other 3.

>   2.  there are 4 I/O paths for data (i.e. you can read from more than
>   one disk simultaneously) which reduces I/O wait times and speeds up
>   the system.

And a couple of others:

3. cheaper

4. you can do RAID if you like


HTH

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: Installing .deb pkgs on other Linuxes?

1998-12-04 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

> Does anyone know how I can go abt installing .deb pkgs on other
> Linuxes such as Redhat?

Others have pointed out how to do via the "convert to RPM" route.

If you don't want to do that, or can't, you can do:
  ar x xyzzy.deb

Which will give you two tarballs, one with control information (which you
would read and carry out manually) and t'other with the program itself.


HTH

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: first attempt to run UUCP; failed

1998-12-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 03:20:54AM +0400, Eugene Sevinian wrote:
> 54.54 1060) Calling system spyur (port ttyS2)
> 54.54 1060) DEBUG: fcsend: Writing "ATZ\r" sleep
> 55.56 1060) DEBUG: icexpect: Looking for 3 "OK\r"
> 55.56 1060) DEBUG: icexpect: Got "\r\nATZ\r\r\nOK\r" (found it)
> 55.56 1060) DEBUG: fcsend: Writing sleep "ATM0L0E1Q0\r" sleep
> 57.60 1060) DEBUG: icexpect: Looking for 3 "OK\r"
> 57.60 1060) DEBUG: icexpect: Got "\nATM0L0E1Q0\r\r\nOK\r" (found it)
> 57.60 1060) DEBUG: fcsend: Writing "ATDP" \D "562635\r"
> 57.60 1060) DEBUG: icexpect: Looking for 7 "CONNECT"
> 57.61 1060) DEBUG: icexpect: Got "\nATDP562635\r\r\nNO CARRIER"
> 50.95 1060) DEBUG: icexpect: Found 10 "NO CARRIER"

Perhaps your delay is not long enough between dialing and connecting --
especially since you are pulse dialing, which is quite slow.

I can't remember how you increase it exactly though, it's been some
time since I played with this stuff.

Hamish
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procmail autoreply script?

1998-12-04 Thread Felix K.K. Chang
Hello all,

I use a procmail/fetchmail/smail combination. I know that exim is 
the recommended mta now, but I do not want to change right now.
I was wondering if someone could help me with the following problem.

I have a mail address at [EMAIL PROTECTED] This address will be obsolete
within a few weeks so I want to reply to people who use that
address that I have a different setup. I may not use a .forward file,
btw.

I basically want a procmail entry that sends the mail to my inbox as
usual
but also replies to the sender with some message like 'please use
address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Can some procmail guru help me with this? I find the procmail docs
somewhat unclear.

Thanks in advance,

Felix
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Re: serial terminal hangs at login prompt

1998-12-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, David Karlin wrote:

> Hello,
> I've tried connecting two different terminals to the serial port on my
> hamm box.  One was an old pc with terminal emulator software, the other
> is a genuine Digital VT100.  Both hang at the login prompt.
> 
> I ran 'getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100' most recently for the VT100.  I got
> the login prompt, but when I typed my username, there was no response
> on the screen.  I have also setup /etc/inittab to run getty and do get
> the login prompt on the VT100 when the hamm box boots. 


Okay, check `ps ax` when you have typed in your username and pressed
enter. I sometimes had this problem, and it was the cable I was using.
I get this:

...
  204  S1 S0:00 /bin/login -- 
...

> When I did 'man getty' I got the man page for 'agetty'.  It indicated
> that the '-L' switch should be used if the terminal hangs at the login
> prompt.  I did 'find / -name "agetty*"' and no files were found.  I
> looked up both getty and agetty in 'Linux in a Nutshell' and found
> that '-L' only works for agetty and not getty.  I searched 
> /stable/main/packages for 'agetty' and couldn't find it.

my options in /etc/inittab are so:

T1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty -L -w ttyS1 19200 vt220

(the -w tells it to wait for a CR before sending the login prompt - handy 
for when the terminal is off when my box boots.)

Try it with vt220. I use it because it supports all the function keys, and
,... etc


> Q1:  Where can I find 'agetty'?

I think mgetty IS agetty.

> Q2:  Is it possible my manpage and executable are mis-matched?

Have no idea. the options within the man page work for me, and I have
mgetty too. (with the agetty man page)

> Q3:  Is there something that I'm overlooking in trying to connect
>  a serial terminal?

Check the settings within the terminal. specifically if you are using a
direct or null modem cable.


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Re: mounting /cdrom only for group cdrom

1998-12-04 Thread Gregory T. Norris
Installing sudo is a good way to go about that sort of thing... it's a
very good general-purpose solution for this sort of requirement.  If you
like, I can email you the relevant portions of my configuration-file.

On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 07:26:51PM +, Pere Camps wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>   How can I make that the users of the group 'cdrom' (and only those
> users!) can mount /cdrom?
> 
>   I've tried with the 'user' option but then everybody can mount the
> cdrom. I've also checked the permisions of /dev/cdrom and they're allright
> (read for user+group).


Re: masq server hardware req's

1998-12-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, David Stern wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 04:09:47 PST, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 12:06:10AM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote:
> > > Sorry for the dig, but "Only in America"
> > 
> > America has nothing to do with it.  Only in the net-idiot land of
> > Gatesville and Windowstown.

Okay... Gatesville is in Redmond, and Windowstown? That must be american.
It's Windowscity over here. I hardly know anyone that uses a non-M$ OS.
 
> Not exactly.  Christmas email reindeer animations were a conspired by a 
> renegade faction of Santa's elves who have ties with Microsoft 
> headquarters hometown, Redmond, WA (U.S.) city officials.
> 
> In response to the U.S. Justice Department Microsoft antitrust lawsuit 
> investigation, Redmond city mayor said regarding the allegation of ties 
> to Santa's elves: "I don't remember .. I don't know what that means".

Something stinks of Bill here.

> The U.S. Justice Department now believes a splinter group of the 
> Santa's elves faction has fled to New Zealand and that Christmas email 
> reindeer animations will increase dramatically by December 25, 
> particularly for Debian Linux users.

ARRRGGHHH!!! NO!


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Kernel build

1998-12-04 Thread Javier Velasco




Hi Debian users:
 
I am trying to build a custom kernel based on 
hamm. Basically I am trying to generate a new kernel with Initio scsi card 
support, for Pentium processor and only the basic modules I need at home (no 
more scsi drivers, a few filesystems etc).
 
My problem is that when "make zImage" 
gets to compile the files under ...arch/i386/boot it gest stuck because it is 
missing as86. I have looked around the 3 CD of the official hamm distribution 
but couldn´t find it. I also tried to assemble the files with as, but with 
no success.
 
I will appreciate any help.
 
Thanx in advance.


Re: proxy ftp software ?

1998-12-04 Thread Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar
-> Pierfrancesco Caci wrote:
-> > 
-> > is there a package to create a proxy ftp server ?
-> 
-> The 'squid' package offers a very flexible and configurable FTP and HTTP
-> caching-proxy server.

yes but it uses http protocol which is not very good (means it's unusable)
for FTP client;
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