Lyx with typein

1999-01-08 Thread IBMackey
Okay, everybody says lyx is great, but for the darnest, I can't get it
to work with latex's \typein.

Here's the text ...

Now is the time for all good men to party.
\typein[\name]{What is your name?}  <--- This marked red for Tex command
You, my dear \name\ , are invited.


When I try to view or print,

On lyx version 0.12 An error box opens and says,

There were errors during the Latex run.
One error detected you should
try to fix it.

Dismiss |
<---|

And then the file shows the word "Error" in a box beside the \typein
command.

Sorry, I can't be clearer but I've tried this many times. The file
works without typein, errors with it. Any ideas?

i.b.



Re: Keyboard and KDM

1999-01-08 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Becher, Andrew wrote:

> I'm having a problem with the keyboard and KDM in slink.  The keyboard won't
> respond after the system boots.  I understand someone recently posted a fix
> for this, but I wasn't subscribed then.  Could someone please send it to me?

If it's the same as a recent xdm problem, try typing "linux 4" at the LILO
prompt (assuming linux is the name of your kernel).  If that fixes it,
edit /etc/inittab and change the default runlevel to 4.  It's a work, not
a real fix.

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: My PC's internal (built-in) speaker.

1999-01-08 Thread UNO Takeshi
Hello.

Please check CONFIG_SOUND in Documentation/Configure.help.

I can use pcspeaker with kernel 2.1.127 + patch-pcsp-soundcore-2.1.126-v2.
and you can use normal sound device(i.e. /dev/dsp), not /dev/pc*. (no need 
sound card.)

UNO Takeshi


Unidentified subject!

1999-01-08 Thread 2_dookie
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Modifying /usr/info/dir (EMACS)

1999-01-08 Thread Richard Lyon
Hi,

I have a number of aliens in my system with infomation files stored in 
/usr/local/info. In theory I can make these files visible to the emacs help by 
the following procedure:

1. Add the following line to .bashrc

export INFOPATH=/usr/info:/usr/local/info

2. Modify /usr/info/dir to include entries for the aliens.

Will custom modifications to dir cause a problem?

What will happen if I install a debian package at a later date which contains 
info files? Will dir be maintained correctly?

Regards ...



Re: Hamm to Kernel 2.2.0

1999-01-08 Thread Carey Evans
Ruud de Bruin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> a) It seems that the initailisation of the COM ports is changed. I saw a
> message during boot that something was wrong.

Install the new version of "setserial" from slink or potato.

> b) I could not find a way to access my ZIP drive (parallel). It seems that
> ppa is not present anymore(?)

This is dependent on how the kernel was compiled.  You need at least
CONFIG_PARPORT, CONFIG_PARPORT_PC, CONFIG_SCSI, CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD, and
CONFIG_SCSI_PPA (all as modules in my case), and you might need to
configure the parallel port with the necessary parameters.  In
/etc/conf.modules, I have

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7

> What changes should I made to a "standard" Hamm 2.03 system so I am able
> to use a 2.2.0(Pre) kernel?

BTW, 2.2.0-pre5 was out last time I checked.

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PC with no hard disk

1999-01-08 Thread Serge Gavrilov
Hello All!

Does the standart way to install Debian (Hamm) on PC without harddisk exist?
(I mean that root=/dev/nfs).

Thank you,

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Re: My PC's internal (built-in) speaker.

1999-01-08 Thread shaul
Thank you all.
Replaced the speaker. Works fine. First time I noticed that my bash also uses 
the speaker to get the user attention.
I still do not know which device is used for the speaker, if any.
grep pcspeaker /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt gives noting with my 
Debian 2.0 (kernel 2.0.34).
Which utility are you using for the phone ringer ?

> Rich Harran. wrote:
> > 
> > When you turn on your computer, it should make a beep noise through the
> > internal speaker as the BIOS initialises (POST).  This is so you know it
> > has started correctly, for example if your monitor fails.  If you do not
> > get any sort of sound at start up, the speaker may be broken, or
> > disconnected.  If you don't mind doing this, take the case off your
> > computer, and check the connection between the speaker and the motherboard
> > - there should probably be a pair of thin plastic-coated wires going via a
> > little plastic plug to two metal prongs somewhere around the edge of the
> > motherboard: check nothing has come loose or is broken.  
> > 
> > It is possible (unlikely?) that your Bios doesn't beep to say everything
> > is ok on start-up, but it definitely should if something is wrong.  You
> > could try taking out your graphics card (if you haven't turned the
> > computer off by now, do so, and take precautions against static dischage),
> > and then re-starting your computer.  If the speaker is working, there will
> > be loads of beeps, as the bios tells you it can't find the primary video
> > (I've heard the knew ACME bios avoids all this noise by printing an
> > informative error message on the screen!).
> 
> I would suggest just unplugging the keyboard to force a bios failure.
> 
> > If your speaker isn't working, I wouldn't worry about the cost of
> > replacing it, as the ones supplied with PC's are invariably cheap crappy
> > ones, and you should be able to get one for around a fiver (english
> > money).  The one I have in my computer was bastardised from a broken
> > cheap radio.
> > 
> > Hope some of this helps, or at least makes sense.  If the speaker is
> > working physically, I can't think of any debian stuff which would use it,
> > but if you've got dos installed, most games will use it.
> 
> 

> Im been trying to use pcspeaker too. Without luck... creating /dev/pcspeaker 
> with MAKEDEV did work either (kernel 2.1.128). I found a utility that play 
> with tha speaker. I use it as a phone ringer...





Re: slink PPP hangup problem

1999-01-08 Thread shaul
Isn't the failing of chat (2nd line of in your messages) means that you were 
connected at all ?

> Hello All
> 
> I have been using Debian Slink Linux for a while now, but I have a problem
> hanging up (terminating) a PPP connection.
> 
> I have the latest version of PPPD installed, I have edited the chatscripts
> ect... to dial the interent, and i use pon to logon to the internet.
> 
> But when it comes time to log off the internet I do have a problem. The
> problem is that when I run /usr/bin/poff. The program does not 'terminate'
> thet PPP connection properly. The connection is terminated but in
> /var/log/syslog I get the following messages:
> 
> Jan  6 07:01:49 indolent pppd[296]: Terminating on signal 2.
> Jan  6 07:02:34 indolent chat[851]: Failed
> Jan  6 07:02:34 indolent pppd[296]: disconnect script failed
> Jan  6 07:02:35 indolent pppd[296]: Exit.  
> 
> I have no clue how to fix this problem. I know that poff does work on this
> other debian box that I have, and it hangs up instantly off the internet.
> When I use poff of this machine I can't get off the intenret instantly it
> takes a few minutes then puts some errors out to syslog (shown above), I
> was just wondering if anyone has nay idea how to fix this. Or what kind of
> problem this is... And once in a long while sometimes the modem won't
> hangup when i execute /usr/bin/poff and I am forced to reboot the box.
> Does anyone have any idea what the problem could be?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Nikhil
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Netscape 4.08 vs. 4.5?

1999-01-08 Thread Serge Gavrilov
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 04:23:39PM -0600, Paul Miller wrote:
> Sergey Imennov wrote:
> > 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > 
> > Hello.
> > 
> >  I'm having a hard time deciding what to use -- either
> >  Netscape 4.08 or 4.5.
> > 
> >  What are the differences anyway. It seems as though work
> >  on 4.08 is still being done, while 4.5 is ?
> > 
> As far as I can tell, 4.08 is the latest Netscape Navigator version, 4.5
> if the latest Netscape Communicator version. Communicator comes with
> Navigator, Composer, Messenger, and possibly other little tidbits.
> 

In Netscape 4.5 there are a lot of bugfixes, especially important for russian
users. Russian www-pages with cp1251 encoding look almost in a right way :).


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Re: Ugrading using apt-get?

1999-01-08 Thread Paul Miller
Will Lowe wrote:
> 
> > 3. Execute 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
> >
> > I see that all of the packages to be updated are simply held back.
> > Essentially nothing gets upgraded at all. Why is this? I have tried to
> > use the -f parameter in step three as well to no avail.
> 
> Do you have them marked "hold" in dselect? (they'll have an equals sign
> "=" in the action field) ...
> Will

This is true. They are all on hold. I was confused because apt-get also
has a dselect-upgrade parameter. I assumed that dist-upgrade ignored the
dselect action choices.

Thanx for the correction.

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Re: Ugrading using apt-get?

1999-01-08 Thread Will Lowe
> 3. Execute 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
> 
> I see that all of the packages to be updated are simply held back.
> Essentially nothing gets upgraded at all. Why is this? I have tried to
> use the -f parameter in step three as well to no avail. 

Do you have them marked "hold" in dselect? (they'll have an equals sign
"=" in the action field) ...
Will


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Re: Ugrading using apt-get?

1999-01-08 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Paul Miller wrote:

> I see that all of the packages to be updated are simply held back.
> Essentially nothing gets upgraded at all. Why is this? I have tried to
> use the -f parameter in step three as well to no avail. 

You have probably set them all to hold in dselect, you need to unhold them
all.

Jason


Re: 2.2 ready ?

1999-01-08 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 07:05:00PM +0100, Anders Arnholm wrote:

>  > potato definately, slink possibly

> Slink works, over here (I think I have mostly slink installed now, SANE is 
> the 
> only packet I know is potato, and a loot of other package are still hamm. 
> Apt-tells me that it is holding back a bit over 100 packets.)

Slink appears to be working mostly fine here.  The only problems I've
noticed here so far are that PCMCIA support needs the potato version plus
a small patch, and that dhcpd is broken (I'm about to try the other one
which has had favorable reports on linux-kernel).

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Re: XDM

1999-01-08 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi,
> > My last question/issue/problem is I didn't answer "yes" to making XDM the
> > default logon prompt, therefore one must sign onto the box in text mode,
> > then type "XDM" then sign on again.  The first signon must be root.
> > 
> > Is there anyway of changing this as to make the box ALWAYS come up with XDM
> > as the default logon ?
> > 
> Go to /etc/X11/config and uncomment the last line that says 
> #start-xdm
> 
Assuming that you have hamm installed.  It's not the case in slink.
Sasha.



Re: Search and Replace

1999-01-08 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi,

Yes there are quite a few ways to do that, another example:

GLOBAL REPLACE in the files:
awk '{gsub("call", "mall", $0); print > FILENAME}' *.kumac
change call to mall in all *.kumac files

Word of CAUTION: If you process really big files you may run into trouble, 
that only part of your file will be processed.  Above procedure has a limit 
about 32K lines, rest of your file will be lost!  (that was my IRIX gawk 
experience) I think sed is better, but it may have limit too.  Better check.

Sasha.

> sed was made for that.  there are lots of other tools
> that are more programming-oriented (awk, perl, python...);
> sed is simple and a bit cryptic but good to get to know.
> 
> 
> 
> John Greer wrote:
> > 
> > I know that this is not Debian specific but I thought I would give it a
> > shot anyway.  I need to search a series of files for a text string
> > (grep I know) and then I need to replace that string with another.  Is
> > there a command or string of commands that I can do this in?  If
> > this is possible it will make my life much easier!!  Thanks
> > 
> > John
> > 
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Re: Netscape 4.08 vs. 4.5?

1999-01-08 Thread Paul Miller
Sergey Imennov wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> Hello.
> 
>  I'm having a hard time deciding what to use -- either
>  Netscape 4.08 or 4.5.
> 
>  What are the differences anyway. It seems as though work
>  on 4.08 is still being done, while 4.5 is ?
> 
As far as I can tell, 4.08 is the latest Netscape Navigator version, 4.5
if the latest Netscape Communicator version. Communicator comes with
Navigator, Composer, Messenger, and possibly other little tidbits.

-- 
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Ugrading using apt-get?

1999-01-08 Thread Paul Miller
Ok here are the steps I took to try and upgrade from 2.0 to 2.1.

1. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to frozen on http.us.debian.org
server.

2. Execute 'apt-get update'

3. Execute 'apt-get dist-upgrade'

I see that all of the packages to be updated are simply held back.
Essentially nothing gets upgraded at all. Why is this? I have tried to
use the -f parameter in step three as well to no avail. 

Thanx in advance.

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RE: version control systems

1999-01-08 Thread Jon Burchmore
> I think "doesn't restore timestamps correctly" is a little bit too strong, 
> but 
> I agree that timestamps are painful.

As an example, we had some very unhappy customers after shipping a version
of comctl32.dll with an incorrect timestamp due to CVS' (non-existant) timestamp
handling.  I've used several other revision control managers, and all of them
honored the timestamp of the file, rather than clobbering it with the time
that the file was checked in.

> Just my 2 cents:  Tag your code (cvs tag tag_name) reasonably often (for 
> example once you code is working - tag it).  We maintain about 200k lines 
> code 
> with about 20 developers and this technique proved to be quite helpful.  I 
> also find time stamps much less convenient than tags.  (You have to scratch 
> your head trying to remember when was the last time your code was actually 
> running).

I might add to this that you should make those tags branches, otherwise you'll
have to re-tag the code if you ever want to do concurrent development (or go
back and fix bugs in a stable release while working on a non-stable one).

-Jon Burchmore


Re: version control systems

1999-01-08 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi,

> > Summary: can anyone recommend a good multi-user version control system
> > with Windows and Unix support, that runs in an acceptable time on a WAN,
> > which supports binary files?
> > 
> > cvs almost fits the bill, but I need to store Delphi source files in it,
> 
> I use CVS at work to manage several projects.  It *is* capable of storing
> binary files--use the -kb option to cvs add.  My only gripe with it is that
> it doesn't restore timestamps correctly.
> 
I think "doesn't restore timestamps correctly" is a little bit too strong, but 
I agree that timestamps are painful.

Just my 2 cents:  Tag your code (cvs tag tag_name) reasonably often (for 
example once you code is working - tag it).  We maintain about 200k lines code 
with about 20 developers and this technique proved to be quite helpful.  I 
also find time stamps much less convenient than tags.  (You have to scratch 
your head trying to remember when was the last time your code was actually 
running).
Good luck,
Sasha.



OT: Opensource Forum

1999-01-08 Thread Yasmine, Edith

To all those interested in opensource program development (or the
movement in general), a channel has been formed on IRC's EFNet server,
called #opensource.

We're particularly interested in those that work a sysadmin job during
the day (allowing them to access IRC), as we're looking for reliable
chan-ops.

We hope to make #opensource a friendly, professional atmosphere in
which to discuss the opensource revolution. :)




Re: dhcp and boot-up network configuration

1999-01-08 Thread Rahsheen Porter
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 08:01:27PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I have setup a dhcp successfully, It works great
> But, it is started by rc* scripts _after_ /etc/rcS.d/S40network script
> wich uses static config info

Well, all my network script does is: 
1. set up lo
2. set up eth1 (local network)
3. do some ipfwadm stuff for IP Masquerading
4. set up default gw 
5. and add 255.255.255.255 as a route (for dhcpd) 

I don't set up eth0 because this is done by the dhcp stuff.
Which I assume comes later...or before. I guess it really
doesn't matter with this setup. 

That guy


Re: IP firewall chains

1999-01-08 Thread Chris Leishman
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 08:05:07AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 03:02:18 +1100, Chris Leishman wrote:
> 
> >Wouldn't this mean that trying to, say, telnet out of the box would fail, as
> >the remote machine could not return any data?
> 
> No, because the connection is already made.  It is only new connections
> that have problems.  Established connections are fine.
> 

Really?  I though that you had to specify to a -y flag to the command line to
specify SYN packets only (see "Specifying TCP SYN packets only.").

Chris

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RE: Remote Booting Question

1999-01-08 Thread Russ Swallow




-Original Message-From: Ben Messinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Cc: 
debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: 
Thursday, January 07, 1999 7:37 PMSubject: Re: Remote boot 
question>If I understand you correctly you are just trying to 
re-boot win95 pc's>from a Linux box. Is this right? Ok, here is the easy 
solution. Many>will cringe and scoff, but it works and it is free. Use 
BackOrofice>(yea, the one from the "cult of the dead cow"). It 
should work great for>this. It is free and can be configured so as to be 
secure.Actually, we were trying to remove the OS from the clients 
altogether;although if I am understanding you correctly :1)  
Windows will boot and can then be configured to reboot immeditely usingthe 
OS stored remotely on the server2)  BackOffice can be configured to 
ensure safety (I've never heard thatsaid before)3)  The Linux 
server (client) is readily available (and not difficult tofind)Is 
this correct?>>You will need "BackOrofice" server to 
place on the win95 pc's, and the>BackOrofice Linux client to control 
them.I found the BackOffice serveron the M$ site.  Where may I 
locate the Linuxsystem and are there any tips to 
configuration?>>Opinions?>>-Ben 
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Re: Why not as a newsgroup?

1999-01-08 Thread Laurent PICOULEAU
Hi,

On Thu, 07 Jan, 1999 à 04:54:49PM -0500, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> Didier Verna wrote:
> > 
> > Mosl Roland writes:
> > 
> > Mosl> I find the current method with email very unpractical.
> > 
> > I find it very practical.
> 
>   Not everyone out here agrees with that statement.
> 
> > Mosl> Why not organize as a newsgroup only available as
> > Mosl> news.debian.org ?
> > 
> > I hope not. The signal/noise ratio on mailing lists is always so 
> > much
> > better than on a newsgroup.
> 
>   Not if its a 'private' news feed as in news.debian.org, and not
> the Usenet.
[snip]
>   The issue is not how many features your news reader/mail reader
> has. The problem is that email lists require you to download
> *every* message, whether you want to read them or not.  With a
> news server, you only have to download the subject lines, and only
> the messages you want to read.
>
You can do that with a pop account too. It's a waste of time unless you only
download a very small amount of your mails : when you do decide to download
a mail you get its headers a second time !
> 
> > Mosl> So why not change it to a privat (only on one server available)
> > Mosl> newsgroup?
> > 
> > It might be possible to have a newsgroup mirroring the list, but 
> > even
> > that, I don't like at all.
> 
>   Well, I *do* like the idea; so take that.
> 
>   I realize that debian.org may not have the resources to setup a
> 'private' non-Usenet news server on debian.org, but look, we've
[snip]
> subject lines), a newsgroup is more efficient for those of us who
> don't have the T1, or better, connections that the rest of you
> apparently have (how long does it take you to download 500 emails,
> Hmmm?).  If debian.org doesn't have the resources then say that,

It's not that long. I do collect about 200 Mails a day with a 33600 modem
in about 3 minutes.

> or give a more concrete reason, instead of just telling us 'I like
> it better'.
>   All I'm asking is for the majority to show a little more
> understanding of the minority's position.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ed C.
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Re: "make-kpkg" terminated before completion

1999-01-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
>>"Charles" == Charles Kaufman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Charles> I repeated the make-kpkg exactly as before, as far as I
 Charles> could tell. This time it completed, except for the lack of
 Charles> pgp, which is correct-I don't have it-and I presume not
 Charles> critical. The tail of the output:

May I suggest the kernel_image target for make-kpkg? For most
 people, the kernel-image-XXX-YYY package is the only one relevant;
 everything else is only there for completeness. And for personal use,
 you do not need the pgp signature. kernel-image target does not
 invoke pgp.

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NIS netgroup entries in /etc/passwd under glibc2/Debian 2.1

1999-01-08 Thread Richard Kaszeta
I have a machine on which I want only a small subset of my users to
have a valid shell...

Under debian 1.3, I made an NIS netgroup called 'admin' with these
users in it, and put the following entries in /etc/passwd

[EMAIL PROTECTED]::0:0:::  
+::0:0:::/bin/false

So that users in the admin netgroup 

This doesn't seem to work under debian 2.1... the [EMAIL PROTECTED] entry
doesn't seem to do anything.

Since I use nis, my /etc/nsswitch.conf is as below.  From the glibc
documentation I can't seem to figure out how to get netgroups
working... 

Is there a solution to this problem, or is this yet another case where
linux doesn't seem to implement NIS netgroups?

Thanks for the help.

(Flames for using NIS will be sent to /dev/null, they are not relevant
to the discussion)


# /etc/nsswitch.conf
#
# Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality.
# Information about this file is available in the `libc6-doc' package.

passwd: compat
group:  compat
shadow: compat

hosts:  files dns nis
networks:   files

protocols:  db files
services:   db files
ethers: db files
rpc:db files

netgroup:   nis





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Quantum Bigfoot

1999-01-08 Thread Simeon W Farrington
Not sure that my hamm installation on a Quantum Bigfoot 8GB would wholly
agree with you there...

Maybe my setup is OK - I have a maxtor 2.5GB primary master disk, with the
bigfoot as the primary slave, on which Debian 2.0 is happily installed.

Actually the fireball disks are supposed to be faster, so you've probably
done as well out of it - I just needed (wanted??) a huge amount of space
to work with;-)

Simeon


-
"Debian Linux 2.0.34 will not install on Quantum Bigfoot 8Gb. I swaped it
for a Quantum Fireball 5Gb which works fine, I suspect all the Fireball
disks
work just as well (The 7.XGb is fine too).
I highly recommend the Fireball disks, they are fast, low noise, and
small.
I also see that there are problems with the Bigfoot with Red Had Linux
too.

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Re: Network Installtion problem.

1999-01-08 Thread Paul Miller
1. Check the output of the command 'dmesg'. Look for text that pertains
to your network card.  If 'dmesg' shows that the drivers loaded
successfully goto step 3. 
If 'dmesg' did not show anything look at the output of 'lsmod'. Look for
the module names '8390' and 'ne'. 

2. If the modules are not listed, then try 

insmod 8390 <-- This module must be loaded before the ne module.
insmod ne

and see if these two modules load. If they load, try the ifconfig stuff
below. If they do not load, you need to compile your own kernel.

3. Try configuring the card by hand using ifconfig? 

ifconfig eth0 up
or
ifconfig eth0  netmask 



Hope this helps,

> Tom Champion wrote:
> 
> I hope someone can help me.
> 
> I can't get my network card working and as the CDRom is on another
> machine I cannot install the packages until I can get an ftp
> connection between the Linux machine and NT server.
> 
> When I installed the base system the network card that I have,
> installed properly as a ne200 compatible, it even came up when I ran
> ifconfig under the shell from the installation menu.
> 
> When I rebooted the into Linux the network card had disappeared.  I
> only get the loopback when I run ifconfig.
> 
> I am a newbie to Linux and hope that someone can solve this problem, I
> have been searching through the debian archives and other sources for
> this answer.
> 
> I had problems with installing RedHat onto the machine and gave up in
> the end, so it could be a problem with the machine.  The strange thing
> is that it configured and displayed in the installation, but won't
> when it is running.
> 
> Tom..

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Re: XDM on >1 vt...

1999-01-08 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
I think you have to setup more then one Xsetup file: should be Xsetup_0 for the
first one and Xsetup_1 for the second one. And in those file you should specify
the correct display.

Bye,
Giuseppe

[...]
> Ok, got that... :>  But how do I get Xbanner running correctly on the
> 2nd vt?  I _do_ have it set up in the Xsetup file, and
> it tries to run the xbanner scripts, but they don't appear
> to work...


RE: version control systems

1999-01-08 Thread Jon Burchmore
> Summary: can anyone recommend a good multi-user version control system
> with Windows and Unix support, that runs in an acceptable time on a WAN,
> which supports binary files?
> 
> cvs almost fits the bill, but I need to store Delphi source files in it,
> half of which are binary. I would also like a Windows front end for some
> of our users, but that's not essential.

I use CVS at work to manage several projects.  It *is* capable of storing
binary files--use the -kb option to cvs add.  My only gripe with it is that
it doesn't restore timestamps correctly.

There is a Windows GUI frontend for CVS, but in my experience those things
hardly ever get used.  "Real" developers just stick version control commands
in their IDEs' "Tools" menu, or use a DOS prompt.

-Jon Burchmore


Re: Windows 98 and Debian Dual Boot

1999-01-08 Thread pqa
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   On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Danny R. Gray wrote:

   > Hello all,
   > 
   > I'm sure this has been answered a hundred times.  I have a Win98 machine
   > that was up and
   > running.  I added a new drive to run Debian "hamm" on.  The installaion
   > went great but I am 
   > still booting from the floppy.  I noticed that Win98 has an operating
   > systems loading message before the Windows 98 message.  How do I set up
   > dual boot using Win 98?  Or should I  use lilo even if it is not the
   > "normal" boot drive?  I want to keep the user choice simple like "NT
   > BootLoader" since my wife uses the machine and is not very technical.
   > 
   > A pointer to a Mini-HowTo would be great. 

   You can use LILO, just set up Windows98 as a default OS to boot.
   The HOWTO on LILO is located at sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO
   or just look in /usr/doc/lilo/

   Andrew

   > -- 
   > Danny R. Gray
   > Research Technician


And your /etc/lilo.conf file may look like this

i) For a Linux (default) and Windows machine

boot=/dev/hda2
root=/dev/hda2
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
image=/vmlinuz
  label=Linux
  read-only
other=/dev/hda1
  label=dos
  table=/dev/hda

ii) For a Windows (default) and Linux machine

boot=/dev/hda2
root=/dev/hda2
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
other=/dev/hda1
  label=dos
  table=/dev/hda
image=/vmlinuz
  label=Linux
  read-only


In either cases you can choose the OS at boot time.

At\'e breve

Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
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P-3000 COIMBRA, PORTUGAL
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dhcp and boot-up network configuration

1999-01-08 Thread ulisses
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Hi all

I have setup a dhcp successfully, It works great
But, it is started by rc* scripts _after_ /etc/rcS.d/S40network script
wich uses static config info

To use dhcp provied configuration, I suposse I should:

start the /etc/inid.d/dhcp script in /etc/rcS.d/S35dhcp
remove /etc/rc2.d/S13dhcp 
modify /etc/rcS.d/S40hostname.sh and /etc/rcS.d/S40network to use dhcp
provided configuration

any comment will be greatly appreciated

regards,

Ulisses
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Re: your mail

1999-01-08 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On 6 Jan 1999, ERIIX wrote:

> The idea has come that it might be possible to use a mini-dist. of
> Linux as a OS to boot the system ...use DHCP or BOOTP to get IP
> information... then have the Win 95 image be downloaded into memory...
> and boot as if it were the only operating system there. 

 Hmmm. I think that'd be difficult. Loadlin or something like that is easy
enough in DOS or Windows 9x, since they don't offer any kind of memory
protection. If you tried to do this from userspace the kernel would fight
you. The only thing that might work is a kernel module. I've never heard
of one that would do that, but it probably could be written.

 You'd be more likely to find something like this in the DOS world. DOS is
small and not protected, so it's fairly easy to replace it in memory. I
did a quick web search on "bootp NEAR DOS" that turned up some message
forum. You could email some people on that and see if anyone knows
something.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  a trout traveling that fast can inflict on the human skull knows that
  such photographs are very valuable. I paid $20 for mine." - Dave Barry


Re: Reduce scope to one distribution?

1999-01-08 Thread Andrew R Wilson

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From: Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian-Users 
Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Reduce scope to one distribution?


>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Morgan Fletcher writes:
>> > What happened: I had a system pointing at unstable, then I realized
that
>> > unstable is not slink, but rather potato. I didn't want a bleeding-edge
>> > distribution, so I pointed the system at slink (frozen). Now when I run
>> > dselect, there are potato-era packages listed that aren't really
>> > available to me, like kernel-source-2.0.36. Since apt can only see
>> > packages in slink, I'd rather my package database reflected that. How
can
>> > I restrict the package database and/or dselect to just encompass slink
>> > packages?
>>
>> Sounds like you would like to run the nonexistent command
>> 'apt-get dist-downgrade'.  So would I.

No it sounds like he wants dselect to forget about packages it thinks are
available that arn't available any more.

> If you are feeling adventurous, take a look at 'man dpkg'.  There
>is a couple of switches that might be useful, like
>--forget-old-unavailable and the --get-selection/--set selection
>combo.  Please make a full backup of both /var/lib/dpkg/, and
>/var/cache/apt, before tinkering.
> --forget-old-unavailable might do what you want.  The selection
>switches might be use in concert with an update of the Packages
>file.  Lets say you use --get-selection to get the list of
>packages you have installed.  Now remove the data files in the
>dpkg & apt dir and select Update from dselect (a clean rebuilding
>of the data files).  Now run --set-selections so dpkg knows which
>packages are already installed.
> Try the -forget-old-unavailable and/or --clear-avail first.  One
>of these may help.
> There's bound to be a dpkg guru out there, somewhere.  Anyone?
>

I don't consider myself a guru but this sounds unnecessary to me.
>From what I read in the manual page dpkg has exactly the feature
you are looking for.

dpkg --update-avail | --merge-avail Packages-file
  Update  dpkg's and dselect's idea of which packages
  are  available.   With  action  --merge-avail,  old
  information is combined with information from Pack­
  ages-file.  With action --update-avail, old  infor­
  mation  is  replaced  with  the  information in the
  Packages-file.  The Packages-file distributed  with
  Debian  GNU/Linux  is  simply named Packages.  dpkg
  keeps  its  record   of   available   packages   in
  /var/lib/dpkg/available.

If you run dpkg with this option (--update-avail) it will forget about all
the packages that you don't want it to know about.  The option is about
available packages not installed packages so the get-selections,
set-selections thing is unnecessary.

I have used this option on a running system, it does not "forget" which
packages are installed, just the ones that were available but arn't in the
revised Packages file.

So to recap, just run

dpkg --update-avail Packages-file

where Packages-file is pacakages you do want your system to know about :-)



Re: XDM on >1 vt...

1999-01-08 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
If I remeber correctly you have to add a second line with display :1 in
/etc/X11/xdm/Xserver. Then you will have a sencond xserver on vt8
(control-alt-f8 key combination.)

Bye,
Giuseppe

Evan Van Dyke wrote:
> 
> After reading through the X documention that I've seen, I get the
> impression that
> it is possible to have X running on two virtual terminals concurrently,
> with XDM up and running on both... however I havn't be able to tweak the
> settings to have it happen.  Is there anyone out there has has succeeded
> at this and can give me a hand?  Thanks.
> 
> --Evan


XDM on >1 vt...

1999-01-08 Thread Evan Van Dyke
After reading through the X documention that I've seen, I get the
impression that
it is possible to have X running on two virtual terminals concurrently, 
with XDM up and running on both... however I havn't be able to tweak the
settings to have it happen.  Is there anyone out there has has succeeded
at this and can give me a hand?  Thanks.

--Evan

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Re: Starting KDE at boot time

1999-01-08 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 1) About runlevels, I currently run at level 2, do I just change the value in
> the inittab to 5 and be done with it?  or are there more things to consider?

You can do that.  Is that really something you need to do, though?

> 2) I figured out how xdm starts.  Init does it via the rc.* files.  All of
> them link back to /etc/init.d/xdm - a script that does the dirty work.  It
> uses start-stop-daemon to actually start the xdm program.  Question is, I need
> to start kdm instead of xdm.  Is it acceptable to just rename the xdm program
> to xdm.old and put a link to kdm in it's place?  or is it better to change the
> script to start kdm?

There should be a /etc/init.d/kdm file that starts KDM for you.  The
symlinks should have been created in the appropriate /etc/rcX.d
directories as well.  All you should have to do is edit /etc/X11/config so
it says start-kdm instead of start-xdm.

>   The startx is self-explanatory.  The startkde brings up the kwm and 
> other KDE
> utils that bring up the desktop.  There are actually 5 or 6 things that get
> started.  How do I get all of these to come up when kdm starts?  The
> instructions with KDE didn't help much.  Should I just add these to the bottom
> of the xdm script in init.d?  Or is there a better way to do it?

No no no, that would be bad.  You do not want kwm, kfm, kpanel, and all
that other stuff to be running when kdm is up.  You want those things
to run AFTER the person gives a valid login/passwd combo to KDM.  Having
all those things running along with kdm would be a lot like having an
xterm up on your xdm screen.  What's the point in having the login screen
there when there's already a root shell up???

You should edit /etc/X11/window-manages and put startkde alone on the
first line.  The first line of that file is the default window manager.
Of course, we know that startkde isn't a window manager, but it will run
the window manager, and everything is good.

noah

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Re: Chat scrpit trouble

1999-01-08 Thread Jeff Katcher


Terry Maton wrote:
> 
> I am new user and I am having a real problem connecting to my isp.
> First yes I do have a win modem and from what I hear it isnt a good
> start. But onto the problem, when I run the logs for chat script I get
> down to the "expect ok" then I get "alarm" then "failed"
> Then the system says "pppconnect script failed"
> "exit".
> ANy help you can give I would appreciate, I talked to a user on irc
> and he suspects "no carrier" but I am using the same system with win98
> . HELP!
> Terry Marton
> 


These opinions are mine, and have nothing to do with the Linux community


Sorry bud, but your winmodem isn't really a modem.  From what i
understand, it
is a chopped down sound card that needs special drivers to understand
what the
phone line is telling it.  These drivers are PROPRIETARY ie secret.  It
seems
that no-one in the Linux community is willing/able to write drivers for
these.
Not that I blame them its like playing darts blindfolded on a turntable,
you 
may hit the targetbut only by trial an error. and to boot you won't
even 
know if you have hit it.

Jeff Katcher


joe and debian was Re: Switch to Red Hat? No thanks...

1999-01-08 Thread Jack A Walker
I just upgraded to hamm via a cheapbytes cd.
I was never able to upgrade any of my red hat installs.
At least not without reformatting and starting over from scratch.

 Had joe before.  Have newer joe now.  Joe is in debian.
Why not just install joe? ;^)

Jack



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Subject:  Re: Switch to Red Hat? No thanks...





The main package that I miss is joe, I cant get by without it...
much easier to work with than vi.


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Re: 2.2 ready ?

1999-01-08 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Shaleh wrote:
 > On 08-Jan-99 Bert Barbe wrote:
 > > Is there a distribution that is kernel v. (pre-)2.2 ready (= having
 > > the right versions of neccessary tools to run linux (pre-)2.2)
 > potato definately, slink possibly

Slink works, over here (I think I have mostly slink installed now, SANE is the 
only packet I know is potato, and a loot of other package are still hamm. 
Apt-tells me that it is holding back a bit over 100 packets.)

/ Anders


Re: Switch to Red Hat? No thanks...

1999-01-08 Thread Christian Lavoie
> I've managed to teach people to install debian, it took an
> afternoon to do and these people didn't know anything about
> Linux before they started.

I thought myself to install Debian in a day. Never saw Linux before 
that day, and I successfully installed it twice so far (a friend of 
mine got hooked to... Hmm... I hooked a friend of mine.) The only real 
problem with installing Linux is that you don't get the habit as 
quickly as you would using Windows. =P

As for Debian vs Red Hat packaging, there always is Alien if it really 
is THAT bad.

> John.
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Starting KDE at boot time

1999-01-08 Thread MallarJ
Okay, I have my system running, and X runs, and xdm runs, and kdm runs and I
can get the KDE environment up.  But I have some questions on how to do all of
this automagically.  

1) About runlevels, I currently run at level 2, do I just change the value in
the inittab to 5 and be done with it?  or are there more things to consider?

2) I figured out how xdm starts.  Init does it via the rc.* files.  All of
them link back to /etc/init.d/xdm - a script that does the dirty work.  It
uses start-stop-daemon to actually start the xdm program.  Question is, I need
to start kdm instead of xdm.  Is it acceptable to just rename the xdm program
to xdm.old and put a link to kdm in it's place?  or is it better to change the
script to start kdm?

3) When I bring KDE up currently, I do the following:

startx
startkde

The startx is self-explanatory.  The startkde brings up the kwm and 
other KDE
utils that bring up the desktop.  There are actually 5 or 6 things that get
started.  How do I get all of these to come up when kdm starts?  The
instructions with KDE didn't help much.  Should I just add these to the bottom
of the xdm script in init.d?  Or is there a better way to do it?

TIA for the help.

-Jay


Re: Search and Replace

1999-01-08 Thread David Coe
sed was made for that.  there are lots of other tools
that are more programming-oriented (awk, perl, python...);
sed is simple and a bit cryptic but good to get to know.



John Greer wrote:
> 
> I know that this is not Debian specific but I thought I would give it a
> shot anyway.  I need to search a series of files for a text string
> (grep I know) and then I need to replace that string with another.  Is
> there a command or string of commands that I can do this in?  If
> this is possible it will make my life much easier!!  Thanks
> 
> John
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Snooping program

1999-01-08 Thread Wakko Warner
I'm looking for a program similar to the linspy that will work under kernel
2.2.x.

If you're reading this and don't know what linspy is.  It's similar to
ttysnoop except that it's not a daemon.  Linspy loads into the kernel and
attaches to the write or read functions (forgot which).  There's a program
that reads /dev/ltab (a device you create) and will allow you to attach to
tty* and take control.  I mainly use this at work when I have to unmount a
drive. sometimes I leave a shell in that dir and don't want to kill the
xterm.


Re: "make-kpkg" terminated before completion

1999-01-08 Thread Charles Kaufman
Manoj:

On 8 Jan 1999, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>   Are you sure that the source tree was not somehow corrupted? I
>  can't reproduce the problem here. I do have include/net/rosecall.h
> 
>   manoj
> 

I repeated the make-kpkg exactly as before, as far as I could tell. This
time it completed, except for the lack of pgp, which is correct-I don't
have it-and I presume not critical. The tail of the output:

hown -R root.root debian/tmp-headers
chmod -R og=rX debian/tmp-headers
dpkg --build debian/tmp-headers ..
dpkg-deb: building package `kernel-headers-2.0.36' in
`../kernel-headers-2.0.36_1.00_i386.deb'.
rm -rf debian/tmp-headers
touch stamp-headers
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux'
 signfile kernel-source-2.0.36_1.00.dsc
/usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: pgp: command not found
make: *** [stamp-buildpackage] Error 127

But I don't know why it's different this time.
Thanks
  Chuck


Re: 2.2 ready ?

1999-01-08 Thread Dale E. Martin
Bert Barbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there a distribution that is kernel v. (pre-)2.2 ready (= having
> the right versions of neccessary tools to run linux (pre-)2.2)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bert

I'm running 2.2.0-pre4 with (99.9%) slink.  The only problem I've noticed
is that I've made a new 256M swap partition (which should be supported by
the new kernels) and mkswap complains about it.  I've not investigated if
potato has the newer version with support for larger partitions.

Later,
Dale


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Re: Switch to Red Hat? No thanks...

1999-01-08 Thread John Stevenson
"Richard E. Hawkins Esq." wrote:
> 
> john jabbed,
> 
> > I have found that there is much more packages available for
> > debian than there are for Red Hat, so if you did move to Red Hat
> > then you would be missing out on a lot of Linux goodies.
> >

> Yes, I found that as well.  In addition to being harder to install at
> the moment (a *big* reversal from two years ago), redhat is missing
> some basic stuff.  The last time i looked was probably almost a year
> ago, but they were missing some pretty basic stuff--a "vanilla" fvwm2
> (If 2 was even available; i couldn't quite tell), exmh 2.x (1.x was,
> uhh, awkward at best, and button-heavy), and a couple of odds and ends.

I did recently install Red Hat on my laptop. To me it was less
intuative and the install instructions were a bit waffley.  I
had real problems installing pcmcia stuff and never managed to
successfully install it.  With debian pcmcia stuff was a
doddle..

The main package that I miss is joe, I cant get by without it...
much easier to work with than vi.

> I also flirted with FreeBSD, which is easier to install than either RH
> or debian, if it supports your equipment.  BUt just try and get an
> answer on their mailing lists; you need your own personal guru.

I've managed to teach people to install debian, it took an
afternoon to do and these people didn't know anything about
Linux before they started.

John.
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Re: version control systems

1999-01-08 Thread Mike Touloumtzis
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 10:38:01PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> 
> Summary: can anyone recommend a good multi-user version control system
> with Windows and Unix support, that runs in an acceptable time on a WAN,
> which supports binary files?
> 
> cvs almost fits the bill, but I need to store Delphi source files in it,
> half of which are binary. I would also like a Windows front end for some
> of our users, but that's not essential.
> 
> I use ClearCase at work. I like the feature set, but $4000 per single
> user license (US), with no Linux support? No thanks! Perforce (perforce.com)
> is $600 per user and they have Linux client and SERVER support. That's a nice
> touch.
> 

I use Perforce at work and have been happy both with its quality and
with the responsiveness of Perforce support.  Their software has run on
Linux for quite a while now, which is a nice positive.

miket


Keyboard and KDM

1999-01-08 Thread Becher, Andrew
I'm having a problem with the keyboard and KDM in slink.  The keyboard won't
respond after the system boots.  I understand someone recently posted a fix
for this, but I wasn't subscribed then.  Could someone please send it to me?
 
Thanks!
 
Andy


Re: Switch to Red Hat? No thanks...

1999-01-08 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
john jabbed,

> I have found that there is much more packages available for
> debian than there are for Red Hat, so if you did move to Red Hat
> then you would be missing out on a lot of Linux goodies.
> 
> If there is an odd package that is only available in a .rpm,
> then just convert the .rpm to a .deb file (takes two minutes).
> 
> I have three .rpm packages installed on my Debian 2.0 install. 
> If I installed Red Hat I would be missing out on at least 20% of
> the packages I use daily...

Yes, I found that as well.  In addition to being harder to install at 
the moment (a *big* reversal from two years ago), redhat is missing 
some basic stuff.  The last time i looked was probably almost a year 
ago, but they were missing some pretty basic stuff--a "vanilla" fvwm2 
(If 2 was even available; i couldn't quite tell), exmh 2.x (1.x was, 
uhh, awkward at best, and button-heavy), and a couple of odds and ends.

I also flirted with FreeBSD, which is easier to install than either RH 
or debian, if it supports your equipment.  BUt just try and get an 
answer on their mailing lists; you need your own personal guru.

Finally, someone pointed me to /etc/issue, and I was able to s/GNU//g  
:), which will get me by until I find the time to build the BSD 
utilities to replace the GNU stuff . . .


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Re: XDM

1999-01-08 Thread Andrew Ivanov
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Frederic Breitwieser wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> My last question/issue/problem is I didn't answer "yes" to making XDM the
> default logon prompt, therefore one must sign onto the box in text mode,
> then type "XDM" then sign on again.  The first signon must be root.
> 
> Is there anyway of changing this as to make the box ALWAYS come up with XDM
> as the default logon ?
> 
> I kinda like single sign on :)

Go to /etc/X11/config and uncomment the last line that says 
#start-xdm

This will automaticly start xdm on the login.
Also, make sure that there is a symbolic link to execute xdm
in /etc/rcX.d , where X is a runlevel number.
(link should be present in all of them and look like this
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Nov  1 17:25 S99xdm ->
../init.d/xdm)
Andrew


XDM

1999-01-08 Thread Frederic Breitwieser
Greetings,

My last question/issue/problem is I didn't answer "yes" to making XDM the
default logon prompt, therefore one must sign onto the box in text mode,
then type "XDM" then sign on again.  The first signon must be root.

Is there anyway of changing this as to make the box ALWAYS come up with XDM
as the default logon ?

I kinda like single sign on :)

Oh, and will this effect telnetting to the box?

Thanks!


Frederic Breitwieser
Bridgeport, CT 06606

Homebrew Automotive Website:
http://www.xephic.dynip.com/

1993 Supercharged Lincoln Continental
1989 HMMWV
1973 Lincoln Continental (460cid)
1975 Dodge D200 3/4 ton Club Cab
2000 Buick-Powered Mid-Engined Sports Car

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Samba

1999-01-08 Thread Frederic Breitwieser
Greetings Folks,

I'm having a bit of a snafu with Samba... and its clearly a security issue.
 I *think* its a security issue with linux itself, rather than the samba.

Here is what I'm trying to achieve:

Laserjet 4 attached to lp1, available and shared across the network to my
four NT servers, my 98 laptop, and my linux laptop.  In network
neighborhood, I can see the Linux server in question, expand to see the
shares available (minus the printer), yet I can't map a printer.  Tried the
net use command as well.

I want one file share, and one file share only :)  Called "www" which
allows my username "frederic" (not root) to have read/write/create access
to the /home/httpd directory.

The account "frederic" ended up being user "500" and group "500".  I've
read the man pages for a while, and don't quite get this.  Anyone have a
good link to a linux security/admin/samba config designed for people who
can barely sign on?

Thanks in advance!



Here is my config:

[global]
   workgroup =XEPHIC
   comment = Prod0 Samba
   volume = cdrom

; printing = BSD or SYSV or AIX, etc.
   printing = bsd
   printcap name = /etc/printcap
   load printers = yes

; Uncomment this if you want a guest account
  guest account = pcguest
   log file = /var/log/samba-log.%m
; Put a capping on the size of the log files (in Kb)
   max log size = 50

short preserve case = yes
preserve case = yes

; Security and file integrity related options
   lock directory = /var/lock/samba
   locking = yes
   strict locking = yes
;   fake oplocks = yes
   share modes = yes

   security = user

   socket options = TCP_NODELAY 

[homes]
   comment = Home Directories
   browseable = no
   read only = no
   preserve case = yes
   short preserve case = yes
   create mode = 0750

[www]
   path = /home/httpd
   case sensitive = no
   guest ok = yes
   locking = no
   read only = no
   browseable = yes
  user=frederic
  create mode = 0700

; NOTE: There is NO need to specifically define each individual printer
[printers]
   comment = All Printers
   path = /var/spool/samba
   browseable = no
   printable = yes
   public = yes
   writable = no
   create mode = 0700







Frederic Breitwieser
Bridgeport, CT 06606

Homebrew Automotive Website:
http://www.xephic.dynip.com/

1993 Supercharged Lincoln Continental
1989 HMMWV
1973 Lincoln Continental (460cid)
1975 Dodge D200 3/4 ton Club Cab
2000 Buick-Powered Mid-Engined Sports Car

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Re: IntelliMouse support???

1999-01-08 Thread servis
*- Bernd Mueller wrote about "IntelliMouse support???"
> Hey,
> 
> Where can i find a "driver" for a MS Intelli (comp.) Mouse connected to
> /dev/psaux?
> 
> bye
> / Bernd /
> 
> 
> 

Gpm and X both support this mouse.  You have to have ps/2(psaux) support
compiled into the kernel or as a module.

For gpm use the imps2(see 'gpm -t help') type and for X use the IMPS/2
type(see /usr/doc/X11/README.mouse and the Debian imwheel package).

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Re: Switch to Red Hat? No thanks...

1999-01-08 Thread John Stevenson
I have found that there is much more packages available for
debian than there are for Red Hat, so if you did move to Red Hat
then you would be missing out on a lot of Linux goodies.

If there is an odd package that is only available in a .rpm,
then just convert the .rpm to a .deb file (takes two minutes).

I have three .rpm packages installed on my Debian 2.0 install. 
If I installed Red Hat I would be missing out on at least 20% of
the packages I use daily...

John.

> > From: Jeff Miller[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 8:24 AM
> > To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:  Switch to Red Hat?
> >
> > Hello Debian users,
> >
> > I have been using the Debian distribution of Linux for many months now,
> > but am starting to recognize deficiencies in available, up-to-date
> > packages.  For example, the latest GNOME files are 0.99.2 but I cannot
> > find .deb files for it anywhere.  The best I could find was 0.30.  This
> > wouldn't be an issue if I could actually make my own, but many times the
> > packages simply won't build for me.  The *other* major distribution, Red
> > Hat, has .rpm files available for the GNOME project and they are pretty
> > much up to date but I can't get them to install on my Debian system.  I am
> > torn because I like the fact that Debian packages are easy to find and
> > download, but it seems that Red Hat is more up-to-date.  Are there others
> > that have found this as a problem?  Can someone convince me not to *cross
> > over*?  I am tempted to just run out and purchase Red Hat 5.2 and wipe my
> > Debian system and leave it all behind me.  Is there an alternative?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
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Re: "make-kpkg" terminated before completion

1999-01-08 Thread Charles Kaufman
Manoj

Thanks for the quick reply. The output from du is exactly what you have.
But the directory is /usr/src/linux/include/net, not the one you have, 
if that makes any difference.

The file sizes are 7924 Nov 15 13:33 rose.h
110 Jul 13 16:47 rosecall.h

I did a tar zxpv linux-2.0.36.tar.gz again and these two files came out 
exactly the same.
  

The program did write these files  to /usr/src before it terminated:


   403844 Jan  7 17:05 kernel-doc-2.0.36_1.00_all.deb
  293 Jan  7 16:44 kernel-source-2.0.36_1.00.dsc

  7284235 Jan  7 16:44 kernel-source-2.0.36_1.00.tar.gz 
  7317502 Jan  7 17:04 kernel-source-2.0.36_1.00_all.deb
  Jan  7 17:05 linux/

I'll try it all again to see what happens.
chuck




  


IntelliMouse support???

1999-01-08 Thread Bernd Mueller
Hey,

Where can i find a "driver" for a MS Intelli (comp.) Mouse connected to
/dev/psaux?

bye
/ Bernd /



0setserial and kernel 2.2pre

1999-01-08 Thread Alec Smith
I've been having trouble with the kernel 2.2pre releases with Debian 2...
Its been suggested that the setserial -W flags be removed, and I've done
that. Now I get messages to the effect "device does not support operation".

Can someone out there send me a working 0setserial for Debian 2.0 and
Kernel 2.2?

Thanks.


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Re: Switch to Red Hat?

1999-01-08 Thread keyoz
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Jeff Miller wrote:

> Hello Debian users,
> 
> I have been using the Debian distribution of Linux for many months now,
*crossover*?  I am tempted to just run out and purchase Red Hat 5.2 and
 wipe my Debian system and leave it all behind me.  Is there an 
alternative?> 

yes there is.  compile those latest packages yourself if you have the
luxury of time.  If ever there are debianized packages for those, those
files you compiled get overwritten.  It's fun compiling sometimes, you
should try it.

ciao!

k e c h i e



Re: IP firewall chains

1999-01-08 Thread Steve Lamb
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>Wouldn't this mean that trying to, say, telnet out of the box would fail, as
>the remote machine could not return any data?

No, because the connection is already made.  It is only new connections
that have problems.  Established connections are fine.

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IP firewall chains

1999-01-08 Thread Chris Leishman

[ Please CC all replies to me, as I dont read this list as often as I should ]

Hi all,

I am setting up a linux firewall using IP firewall chains.  However, I am
having difficulty understanding an example that is given in the IPchains
HOWTO.  The example (4.2) is included below.

What I don't get, is that the default rule for the input chain is DENY, with
exceptions only for connections from anywhere to the local ftp port, or from
anywhere originating at the ftp-data port.

Wouldn't this mean that trying to, say, telnet out of the box would fail, as
the remote machine could not return any data?  Why would ftp in work if it can
only access the ftp port - I thought connections only began at a certain port,
then moved into the upper port range?

I know I am probably missing something important - but I don't know what.
Thanks for any help, advice, tutoring.

Best regards,

Chris


-http://www.rustcorp.com/linux/ipchains/HOWTO-4.html

4.2 Useful Examples 

I have a dialup PPP connection (-i ppp0). I grab news (-p TCP -s
news.virtual.net.au nntp) and mail (-p TCP -s
mail.virtual.net.au pop-3) every time I dial up. I use Debian's FTP method to
update my machine regularly (-p TCP -y -s ftp.debian.org.au ftp-data).
I surf the web through my ISP's proxy while this is going on (-p TCP -d
proxy.virtual.net.au 8080), but hate the ads from doubleclick.net on the
Dilbert Archive (-p TCP -y -d 199.95.207.0/24 & -p TCP -y -d
199.95.208.0/24). 

I don't mind people trying to ftp to my machine while I'm online (-p TCP -d
$LOCALIP ftp), but don't want anyone outside pretending to have an IP address
of my
internal network (-s 192.168.1.0/24). This is commonly called IP spoofing, and
there is a better way to protect yourself from it in the 2.1.x kernels and
above: see How do I
set up IP spoof protection?. 

This setup is fairly simple, because there are currently no other boxes on my
internal
network. 

I don't want any local process (ie. Netscape, lynx etc.) to connect to
doubleclick.net: 

   # ipchains -A output -d 199.95.207.0/24 -j REJECT
   # ipchains -A output -d 199.95.208.0/24 -j REJECT
   # 

Now I want to set priorities on various outgoing packets (there isn't much
point in doing it
on incoming packets). Since I have a fair number of these rules, it makes
sense to put them
all in a single chain, called ppp-out. 

   # ipchains -N ppp-out
   # ipchains -A output -i ppp0 -j ppp-out
   # 

Minimum delay for web traffic & telnet. 

   # ipchains -A ppp-out -p TCP -d proxy.virtual.net.au 8080 -t 0x01 0x10
   # ipchains -A ppp-out -p TCP -d 0.0.0.0 telnet -t 0x01 0x10
   # 

Low cosr for ftp data, nntp, pop-3: 

   # ipchains -A ppp-out -p TCP -d 0.0.0.0/0 ftp-data -t 0x01 0x02
   # ipchains -A ppp-out -p TCP -d 0.0.0.0/0 nntp -t 0x01 0x02
   # ipchains -A ppp-out -p TCP -d 0.0.0.0/0 pop-3 -t 0x01 0x02
   # 

There are a few restrictions on packets coming in the ppp0 interface: let's
create a chain
called `ppp-in': 

   # ipchains -N ppp-in
   # ipchains -A input -i ppp0 -j ppp-in
   # 

Now, no packets coming in ppp0 should be claiming a source address of
192.168.1.*, so
we log and deny them: 

   # ipchains -A ppp-in -s 192.168.1.0/24 -l -j DENY
   #

I allow UDP packets in for DNS (I run a caching nameserver which forwards all
requests to
203.29.16.1, so I expect DNS replies from them only), incoming ftp, and return
ftp-data
only (which should only be going to a port above 1023, and not the X11 ports
around 6000).

   # ipchains -A ppp-in -p UDP -s 203.29.16.1 -d $LOCALIP dns -j ACCEPT
   # ipchains -A ppp-in -p TCP -s 0.0.0.0/0 ftp-data -d $LOCALIP 1024:5999 -j
   # ACCEPT
   # ipchains -A ppp-in -p TCP -s 0.0.0.0/0 ftp-data -d $LOCALIP 6010: -j
   # ACCEPT
   # ipchains -A ppp-in -p TCP -d $LOCALIP ftp -j ACCEPT
   #

Finally, local-to-local packets are OK: 

   # ipchains -A input -i lo -j ACCEPT
   # 

Now, my default policy on the input chain is DENY, so everything else gets
dropped: 

   # ipchains -P input DENY
   # 

NOTE: I wouldn't set up my chains in this order, as packets might get through
while I'm
setting up. Safest is usually to set the policy to DENY first, then insert the
rules. Of course,
if your rules require DNS lookups to resolve hostnames, you could be in
trouble. 

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Re: colored comman prompt

1999-01-08 Thread keyoz
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > is it possible to make the command prompt colored?
> > like the escape sequence that you do in DOS?
> 
> Apart from the solutions other people here suggested, you could install 
> the dotfile generator for bash. It has a point and click interface for 
> changing the colors in your prompt. 

Tried it.  too complex.

:-)

k e c h i e


Re: Search and Replace

1999-01-08 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 08:49:10AM -0700, John Greer wrote:
> I know that this is not Debian specific but I thought I would give it a 
> shot anyway.  I need to search a series of files for a text string 
> (grep I know) and then I need to replace that string with another.  Is 
> there a command or string of commands that I can do this in?  If 
> this is possible it will make my life much easier!!  Thanks 

You can do what you want with sed or with a simple perl script.

Example:

sed s/oldstring/newstring/g newfile

If you have a lot of files to do,

for x in file1 file2 file3 
do mv $x $x.old ; sed s/old/new/g <$x.old >$x ; done

You can use wildcards instead of file1...file3

Regards,

Jeff


RE: 2.2 ready ?

1999-01-08 Thread Shaleh
potato definately, slink possibly

On 08-Jan-99 Bert Barbe wrote:
> Is there a distribution that is kernel v. (pre-)2.2 ready (= having
> the right versions of neccessary tools to run linux (pre-)2.2)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bert
> 
> 
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Re: Search and Replace

1999-01-08 Thread John Greer
I know that this is not Debian specific but I thought I would give it a 
shot anyway.  I need to search a series of files for a text string 
(grep I know) and then I need to replace that string with another.  Is 
there a command or string of commands that I can do this in?  If 
this is possible it will make my life much easier!!  Thanks 

John


Re: Windows 98 and Debian Dual Boot

1999-01-08 Thread Andrew Ivanov
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Danny R. Gray wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I'm sure this has been answered a hundred times.  I have a Win98 machine
> that was up and
> running.  I added a new drive to run Debian "hamm" on.  The installaion
> went great but I am 
> still booting from the floppy.  I noticed that Win98 has an operating
> systems loading message before the Windows 98 message.  How do I set up
> dual boot using Win 98?  Or should I  use lilo even if it is not the
> "normal" boot drive?  I want to keep the user choice simple like "NT
> BootLoader" since my wife uses the machine and is not very technical.
> 
> A pointer to a Mini-HowTo would be great. 

You can use LILO, just set up Windows98 as a default OS to boot.
The HOWTO on LILO is located at sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO
or just look in /usr/doc/lilo/

Andrew
 
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2.2 ready ?

1999-01-08 Thread Bert Barbe
Is there a distribution that is kernel v. (pre-)2.2 ready (= having
the right versions of neccessary tools to run linux (pre-)2.2)

Thanks

Bert


Re: version control systems

1999-01-08 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
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   Summary: can anyone recommend a good multi-user version control system
   with Windows and Unix support, that runs in an acceptable time on a WAN,
   which supports binary files?

   cvs almost fits the bill, but I need to store Delphi source files in it,
   half of which are binary. I would also like a Windows front end for some
   of our users, but that's not essential.

   I use ClearCase at work. I like the feature set, but $4000 per single
   user license (US), with no Linux support? No thanks! Perforce (perforce.com)
   is $600 per user and they have Linux client and SERVER support. That's a nice
   touch.

   Obviously free software is preferred, but a good commercial solution is
   acceptable. The server software MUST run on Linux; we don't have any
   centralised NT servers. If CVS can do binary files, that's an option.

   I don't really need file locking, just version control.

take a look at 

www.bitmover.com

OK


Re: [Fwd: Installing debian with Win98]

1999-01-08 Thread Harrison, Shawn
The REAL question for the Debian list, is this:

How do I get a "logo" at startup in Debian/GNU Linux, before all of the 
init functions take off, using Lilo as bootloader? THAT would be the 
cat's meow, IMO. -- Or the penguin's waddle, if you wish.

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RE: Switch to Red Hat?

1999-01-08 Thread Person, Roderick
I would say don't do it. I switched to Red Hat for this reason and it the
biggest regret of my linux life! Red Hat ran slower in everything on my
sytstem. 
The installition is very simple but it make admin task very complex (without
using the graphical interfaces). The structure of the file system is
different and very annoying to me. The Red hat dist also make dependencies
that don't exist in Debian. For example, xdm is dependent upon xbanner. The
system also becomes bloated. I have a 250 MHD, withRed Hat I had 10M free
after the basic X Red Hat install. With Debian, I had near 100M and had X
tons of other stuff. Debian RULES!!!

Rod

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> Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 8:24 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Switch to Red Hat?
> 
> Hello Debian users,
> 
> I have been using the Debian distribution of Linux for many months now,
> but am starting to recognize deficiencies in available, up-to-date
> packages.  For example, the latest GNOME files are 0.99.2 but I cannot
> find .deb files for it anywhere.  The best I could find was 0.30.  This
> wouldn't be an issue if I could actually make my own, but many times the
> packages simply won't build for me.  The *other* major distribution, Red
> Hat, has .rpm files available for the GNOME project and they are pretty
> much up to date but I can't get them to install on my Debian system.  I am
> torn because I like the fact that Debian packages are easy to find and
> download, but it seems that Red Hat is more up-to-date.  Are there others
> that have found this as a problem?  Can someone convince me not to *cross
> over*?  I am tempted to just run out and purchase Red Hat 5.2 and wipe my
> Debian system and leave it all behind me.  Is there an alternative?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jeff 
> 
> 
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Re: hard drive

1999-01-08 Thread David Wright
Quoting Rick Knebel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> When I boot up redhat I have a 3rd hard dirve which is a seagate UDMA
> Seagate 3.2 gig that gives me unusual partition info as compared to my
> other 2 hard drives .
> 
> It says: " hde: [PTBL] [787/128/63] hde1 hde2"
> 
> All my other hard drives just have the drive and partition designation
> without the PTBL and extra numbers.

I had a 1GB disk that used to do this, and its twin in another machine
didn't. The difference was that the former had been formatted in a
486DX66 with a BIOS that supported LBA etc. and then later put back into
the old 486DX33 again. I had to add the linear option to lilo.conf
before it would boot.

Recently I installed hamm onto it from scratch, so I took the opportunity
of repartitioning and reformatting the disk for DOS (and doing fdisk /mbr
to get rid of lilo). That got rid of the "problem" (or difference).

It used to say
 hda: [PTBL] [523/64/63] hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 >
now it says
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
and fdisk reports
Disk /dev/hda: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 2093 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes

I also recollect that ataprobe (by PAP den Haan) had "block mode default"
in its output. Otherwise, the output for the two disks differed only
in their serial number.

So what appears to be happening is that there's some sort of geometry
conversion going on which linux is reporting on.

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RE: Switch to Red Hat?

1999-01-08 Thread jim r
Hi

 I grabbed all the 99.2 rpm's and alien -d'd them. there were error 
messages here and there, but the packages were debianized successfully 
(I had updated GTK and GLIB from the source to 1.1.11, so I didn't need 
those rpms). The first time I started 'gnome-session' I was flooded with 
messages "You are using png2.0.1, which has a known bug. use png1.0.1. 
After I got the rpm for the proper version (the version gnome 99.2 
wants), all went smoothBUTit seemed to slow down considerably. I 
mean WAY slow. 99.2 has some nice features, but I got rid of it and 
'downgraded' gnome to 30-2.
 I, too, suffered from 'should I move to RH' syndrome. Debian 
slink..(potato is too broken for my tastesthat and the fact that I'm 
doing dial up in Germany, so time on-line is at a premium for the cost) 
seems to get updated SO SLOWLY, whilest RH moves along at a brisk pace. 
But, I have tried out RH and Caldera OpenLinux, and for myself I can say 
that Debian is arranged the best, makes the most sense, and, if you 
stick to the .deb format for updates, will not get broken. A lot of 
stuff I expected to see in /home/user/ wasn't therethe X 
configuration files are all buried in /usr/X11R6/bin/X11/, versus the 
easy to find and use /etc/X11/, I can configure X under Debian...can't 
find the files on RH/Caldera, and the video drivers and other 
hardware-interface stuff in Debian 2 is, in my opinion, much better than 
what I get from RH and Caldera(especially caldera). Stick with 
Debianupdates may be slow, but you can be sure that anything you put 
on your system will work.

my 2cents

>From: "Paulo J. da Silva e Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:40:50 -0300
>To: "Jeff Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: RE: Switch to Red Hat?
>
>Jeff Miller writes:
> > Hello Debian users,
> > 
> > I have been using the Debian distribution of Linux for many months 
now, but am starting to recognize deficiencies in available, up-to-date 
packages.  For example, the latest GNOME files are 0.99.2 but I cannot 
find .deb files for it anywhere.  The best I could find was 0.30.  This 
wouldn't be an issue if I could actually make my own, but many times the 
packages simply won't build for me.  The *other* major distribution, Red 
Hat, has .rpm files available for the GNOME project and they are pretty 
much up to date but I can't get them to install on my Debian system.  I 
am torn because I like the fact that Debian packages are easy to find 
and download, but it seems that Red Hat is more up-to-date.  Are there 
others that have found this as a problem?  Can someone convince me not 
to *cross over*?  I am tempted to just run out and purchase Red Hat 5.2 
and wipe my Debian system and leave it all behind me.  Is there an 
alternative?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Jeff 
> > 
>
>Dear Jeff,
>
>Do you have other examples? I really agree with you that, at this 
moment, it
>is easier to fing .rpm's gnome files. But you can't forget how much 
effort
>RedHat is putting on Gnome, so it is natural that they should be ahead 
in this
>arena (on the other hand I think "in the old days of 0.30" Jim Pick 
have
>released Gnome .deb's before RedHat had done her .rpm's). If this 
problem is
>restricted to Gnome, wait a little, till 1.0 is out and there'll be no 
need to
>package a new version once a week. I am sure Debian will have gnome 1.0 
in
>their unstable distribution preaty soon.
>
>Meanwhile, I am planning to try using alien to install gnome 0.99.2. 
Have
>anyone tried this? My idea is installing libgtk1.1.12 and libblib1.1.12
>(required by the new gnome) from unstable (they are already packaged, 
as you
>can see Debian can be fast too) and the give 0.99.2 a try.
>
>Best regards.
>
>Paulo.
>
>
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Re: Re:[Fwd: Installing debian with Win98][OT?]

1999-01-08 Thread Gary Singleton
Hi David, agreed - I've become so used to HTML mail readers that I
forget everyone isn't using one.  I was in too much of a hurry it
seems to get it on the internet and my geocities space was the only
space accessible from behind my firewall here at work.  I will put it
on my Debian logo site @ http://www.cyberhighway.net/~gsinglet/ as
soon as I can and put a thumbnail / link to it.  I'm also cautious
about spamming the list with references to my websites.  I suppose I
was also _assuming_ that anyone interested in a '9x startup screen
would be using one of those so called operating systems at the time
and most don't use Lynx, Elm or Pine under '9x.  Thanks for the
reminder and my apologies to all.

Regards, G.S.
---David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Quoting Gary Singleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Yep, or just shift+click on the link.  I just did it real quick
but it
> > would be cool to modify as a shut-down screen with a phrase
something
> > like 'It is now safe to boot into your _real_ OS'.  Or something. 
> > This may be getting off topic and since the list is already
extremely
> > busy...
> 
> I think their response might be that they don't have a link to
right-click
> on: they have a URL written on some screen (or even a piece of
paper). The
> URL ought to point to a page of HTML with the binary file's name as
a link
> within it.
> 
> But I like your unintended smiley (albeit upsidedown) in the
original posting:
> 
> > root directory (C:\).
> 
>  ^
> Cheers,
> 
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hard drive

1999-01-08 Thread Rick Knebel
When I boot up redhat I have a 3rd hard dirve which is a seagate UDMA
Seagate 3.2 gig that gives me unusual partition info as compared to my
other 2 hard drives .

It says: " hde: [PTBL] [787/128/63] hde1 hde2"

All my other hard drives just have the drive and partition designation
without the PTBL and extra numbers.

Anyone now what this means

Thanks 
Rick


Re: Why not as a newsgroup?

1999-01-08 Thread Steve Lamb
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*chuckle*  Here we go again.

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Windows 98 and Debian Dual Boot

1999-01-08 Thread Danny R. Gray
Hello all,

I'm sure this has been answered a hundred times.  I have a Win98 machine
that was up and
running.  I added a new drive to run Debian "hamm" on.  The installaion
went great but I am 
still booting from the floppy.  I noticed that Win98 has an operating
systems loading message before the Windows 98 message.  How do I set up
dual boot using Win 98?  Or should I  use lilo even if it is not the
"normal" boot drive?  I want to keep the user choice simple like "NT
BootLoader" since my wife uses the machine and is not very technical.

A pointer to a Mini-HowTo would be great. 

-- 
Danny R. Gray
Research Technician
Department of Pathology
UNC-CH School of Medicine


PyGreSQL package?

1999-01-08 Thread Glenn Rogers
Is there a .deb for the Python interface to Postgresql?


Re: Chat scrpit trouble

1999-01-08 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "TM" == Terry Maton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

TM> First yes I do have a win modem and from what I hear it isnt a
TM> good start.

This is an understatement. Winmodems don't work with Linux at all.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Re:[Fwd: Installing debian with Win98][OT?]

1999-01-08 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gary Singleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Yep, or just shift+click on the link.  I just did it real quick but it
> would be cool to modify as a shut-down screen with a phrase something
> like 'It is now safe to boot into your _real_ OS'.  Or something. 
> This may be getting off topic and since the list is already extremely
> busy...

I think their response might be that they don't have a link to right-click
on: they have a URL written on some screen (or even a piece of paper). The
URL ought to point to a page of HTML with the binary file's name as a link
within it.

But I like your unintended smiley (albeit upsidedown) in the original posting:

> root directory (C:\).

 ^
Cheers,

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Re: Slow system: problem isolated, need help with solution

1999-01-08 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:44:36 -0500 (EST), Brandon Mitchell wrote:
> 
> >128.239.214.7   hobbes.resnet.wm.eduhobbes
> 
> >The loopback address may be better for you (127.0.0.1).
> 
> Isn't loopback always supposed to be "localhost" else it breaks
> some programs?

localhost is on the loopback line as well.  I don't think there is a limit
to the number of symbolic names you can have on a line.  Thanks for
pointing it out though, that may not be obvious to others.

Brandon

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Re: Re: compiling a kernel

1999-01-08 Thread David Wright
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> In a message dated 1/7/99 3:41:51 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> treff.uni-koeln.de writes:
> 
> > M> Is there a way to find out what options the current kernel has been
> >  M> compiled with?  I don't want to miss anything or add anything that
> >  M> I don't already have and won't need.
> >  
> >  If you use a kernel made with kernel-package or one of the
> >  kernel-binary Debian packages, then the config is saved in /boot/
> >  
> >  Also the .config file may be in your old source tree.
> >  
> 
> Thanks for the try Martin, but that didn't give me what I need.

IIRC you need to fetch the kernel-image package in base, obviously
the appropriate version. Within the .deb file is /boot/config-2.0.xx
which I believe corresponds to installation kernel.

But if you compile a kernel with "make menuconfig" and read all the help
information (or browse to file /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help
when you've unpacked the kernel-source, it's not to difficult to see
what you need, and you'll learn a lot.

Just make sure you have a floppy for booting your current kernel in case
you leave out an essential (like SCSI drivers if you need them) and get
a kernel panic.

Cheers,

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Chat scrpit trouble

1999-01-08 Thread Terry Maton




I am new user and I am having a real problem 
connecting to my isp. First yes I do have a win modem and from what I hear it 
isnt a good start. But onto the problem, when I run the logs for chat script I 
get down to the "expect ok" then I get "alarm" then 
"failed"
Then the system says "pppconnect script 
failed"
"exit".
ANy help you can give I would appreciate, I 
talked to a user on irc and he suspects "no carrier" but I am using 
the same system with win98 . HELP!
Terry 
Marton 


RE: Switch to Red Hat?

1999-01-08 Thread Paulo J. da Silva e Silva
Jeff Miller writes:
 > Hello Debian users,
 > 
 > I have been using the Debian distribution of Linux for many months now, but 
 > am starting to recognize deficiencies in available, up-to-date packages.  
 > For example, the latest GNOME files are 0.99.2 but I cannot find .deb files 
 > for it anywhere.  The best I could find was 0.30.  This wouldn't be an issue 
 > if I could actually make my own, but many times the packages simply won't 
 > build for me.  The *other* major distribution, Red Hat, has .rpm files 
 > available for the GNOME project and they are pretty much up to date but I 
 > can't get them to install on my Debian system.  I am torn because I like the 
 > fact that Debian packages are easy to find and download, but it seems that 
 > Red Hat is more up-to-date.  Are there others that have found this as a 
 > problem?  Can someone convince me not to *cross over*?  I am tempted to just 
 > run out and purchase Red Hat 5.2 and wipe my Debian system and leave it all 
 > behind me.  Is there an alternative?
 > 
 > Regards,
 > 
 > Jeff 
 > 

Dear Jeff,

Do you have other examples? I really agree with you that, at this moment, it
is easier to fing .rpm's gnome files. But you can't forget how much effort
RedHat is putting on Gnome, so it is natural that they should be ahead in this
arena (on the other hand I think "in the old days of 0.30" Jim Pick have
released Gnome .deb's before RedHat had done her .rpm's). If this problem is
restricted to Gnome, wait a little, till 1.0 is out and there'll be no need to
package a new version once a week. I am sure Debian will have gnome 1.0 in
their unstable distribution preaty soon.

Meanwhile, I am planning to try using alien to install gnome 0.99.2. Have
anyone tried this? My idea is installing libgtk1.1.12 and libblib1.1.12
(required by the new gnome) from unstable (they are already packaged, as you
can see Debian can be fast too) and the give 0.99.2 a try.

Best regards.

Paulo.


ipacset

1999-01-08 Thread Ralph Winslow
Since I've upgraded to slink, I've been seeing hundreds of e-mails per
day which complain that ipac can't run and which suggest that ipacset
must not have been run. But when I run ipacset as root, I get the
message:

# ipacset
/usr/sbin/ipacset: cant read "/proc/net/ip_acct" - exit

ls /proc/net/ip_acct  doesn't, indeed, show anything.  Does anyone have
a clue for me?  TIA

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-
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whose IQ is lowest  divided by the number
of members.


Switch to Red Hat?

1999-01-08 Thread Jeff Miller
Hello Debian users,

I have been using the Debian distribution of Linux for many months now, but am 
starting to recognize deficiencies in available, up-to-date packages.  For 
example, the latest GNOME files are 0.99.2 but I cannot find .deb files for it 
anywhere.  The best I could find was 0.30.  This wouldn't be an issue if I 
could actually make my own, but many times the packages simply won't build for 
me.  The *other* major distribution, Red Hat, has .rpm files available for the 
GNOME project and they are pretty much up to date but I can't get them to 
install on my Debian system.  I am torn because I like the fact that Debian 
packages are easy to find and download, but it seems that Red Hat is more 
up-to-date.  Are there others that have found this as a problem?  Can someone 
convince me not to *cross over*?  I am tempted to just run out and purchase Red 
Hat 5.2 and wipe my Debian system and leave it all behind me.  Is there an 
alternative?

Regards,

Jeff 


Re: compiling a kernel

1999-01-08 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "DBT" == David B Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DBT> So how do I determine the various configuration details?  As you
DBT> suggest, I intend to use my current configuration and make some
DBT> guesses as to necessary changes.

If you have build your kernel with kernel-package, you will find the
configuration in /boot/. If you didn't, and also don't have the
.config, then there is no way to deduct the .config I am aware of.

Ciao,
Martin


ACER extensa 390's keyboard

1999-01-08 Thread pqa
Hi 

I have an ACER extensa 390 and I'm having difficulties ...


I already have X working with the mousepad working (ps2 in /dev/psaux), 
thank you very much for your help.

But the keyboard ...

What it is the type of the the keyboard in X? The keyboard is ok in Linux 
but in X no, the delete key is not present ... The keyboard options do not 
seems to have any good option for the ACER 390 keyboard.

At\'e breve

Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Departamento de Matem\'atica, Faculdade de Ci\^encias e Tecnologia
Universidade de Coimbra
P-3000 COIMBRA, PORTUGAL
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Re: IRCD

1999-01-08 Thread Vaibhav Shandilya


On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Matus "fantomas" Uhlar wrote:

> -> OK I am now getting somehwere with my Debian 2.0 install. But some things
> -> are now broken from 1.3.1 ?
> -> 
> -> For example my ircd refuses to start now. It is accompanied by an entry in
> -> syslog which reads...
> -> 
> -> Your M: line must have the Numeric, assigned to you by routing-com, behind
> -> the port number.
> -> 
> -> Ok so I know where the numeric goes ! But what is it. Where does it come
> -> from ! 
> 
> ok, if you don't know what with ircd, forget it ;)
> 
> btw M: line is line in ircd.conf, starting with "M:"
> and if you want really work with ircd, download sources ans install it by
> yourself...
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Re: compiling a kernel

1999-01-08 Thread David B. Teague

Martin Bialasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> "M" == MallarJ  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> M> Is there a way to find out what options the current kernel has been
> M> compiled with?  I don't want to miss anything or add anything that
> M> I don't already have and won't need.
> 
> If you use a kernel made with kernel-package or one of the
> kernel-binary Debian packages, then the config is saved in /boot/
> 
> Also the .config file may be in your old source tree.


Hi Martin

I'm about build a new kernel for new hardware, so I won't have a .config
that says anything about my hardware in my source tree. I too do not want
anything superflouous nor to miss anything.  How do I set the
configuration here?

The new machine is from Tiger. I has a K6-2 350, 512K L2 cache, 128 MB
SDRAM, 10.6 Gig ide HDD, PS/2 mouse, serial/paralled, and K56 FAX/Modem,
monitor, video is generic 1280x1024 AGP 8MB, not (likely) accellerated. MB
is a 100 MHz gigabyte super socket 7, Yamaha wave table sound on board. 

So how do I determine the various configuration details?  As you suggest,
I intend to use my current configuration and make some guesses as to
necessary changes.  

Please advise. 

--David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux: Because reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades.




Re: version control systems

1999-01-08 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "HM" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

HM> centralised NT servers. If CVS can do binary files, that's an
HM> option.

It can. You just have to mark them as binary (preferable during
import). See Chapter 9 of the CVS manual.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: System won't boot, "lilo.conf" problem

1999-01-08 Thread Rahsheen Porter
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 12:34:10PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
> I have the same situation to Tam. Whenever I boot my PC, It only 
> show " LI" and freeze. The different thing is I have only one disk ( 
> 2GB) and all dedicated to linux. No other operating system inside.
> The /etc/lilo.conf content is 
> boot=/dev/hda1
> root=/dev/hda1
> install=/boot/boot.b
> map=/boot/map
> vga=normal
> image=/vmlinuz
> label=Linux
> > [22:02:27 shaul]$ cat /etc/lilo.conf
> > # /etc/lilo.conf
> > 
> > boot=/dev/hda
> > compact
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > map=/boot/map
> > vga=normal
> > prompt
> > timeout=50
> > other=/dev/hda1
> > label=MS
> > table=/dev/hda
> > image=/vmlinuz
> > label=Linux
> > root=/dev/hdb1
> > read-only
> > image=/vmlinuz
> > label=single
> > append=single
> > root=/dev/hdb1
> > read-only
> > 
> > [22:02:59 shaul]$ 
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > >   I really need some (PLEASE). After I successfully installed the base 
> > > system, I configured the /etc/lilo.conf file and when I reboot, my sytem 
> > > displays this : 
> > >  LI   
> > > and then freezes. Hopefully someone can help me. 
> > > 
> > > Now I will give you a description of what I am trying to do so you can 
> > > understand my problem better.
> > > 
> > >   I have two hard drives and I'll call them "/dev/hda" and "/dev/hdc". 
> > > /dev/hda is a "master" on the first IDE chain and /dev/hdc is also a 
> > > "master" 
> > > but on the second IDE chain. I have DOS/win95 on /dev/hda and just 
> > > installed the base of Linux on /dev/hdc (dedicate only to Linux). 
> > > ***When I make the /root partition on /dev/hdc, I make it bootable***
> > >   
> > > This is what I want to do:
> > >   I want to have a choice to of DOS/win95 or Linux when I boot my system
> > > 
> > > This is what I did, I not sure if it is right or not:
> > >   -run liloconfig
> > > -said "YES" to the first question to install a partition boot 
> > >   record on /dev/hdc. 
> > > -said "NO" to making a master boot record on my second drive 
> > > /dev/hdc
> > >   cuz to want to boot from /dev/hda and I assume that it is 
> > >   right not making a mbr on /dev/hdc.
> > >   -said "NO" to the third question, not making my /dev/hdc active.
> > > 
> > > Now I go in "/etc/lilo.conf" and fix it by hand and this is what 
> > > it looks like: (I delete the original data that lilo provided such as 
> > > compact, install=/boot/boot.b, etc)
> > >   
> > >   boot=/dev/hda
> > >   delay=40
> > >   
> > > other=/dev/hda1
> > >   label=windows
> > >   table=/dev/hda
> > >   
> > >   image=/vmlinuz
are you sure this exists? ^
> > >   root=/dev/hdc2   #hdc2 is my root partition
> > >   label-Linux
 ^
should be:  label=Linux
> > >   read-only


Re: Why not as a newsgroup?

1999-01-08 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "RL" == Ryszard Lach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

RL> If we're spoking about functionality: how to make lists's adress
RL> appear in Reply-To field?

No, no, no. Again, this has been discussed to death. 

Reason:

If some recipient as not reachable, the sender of a mail to
debian-user gets a message from the particulta MTA (unfortunately,
this happens annoyingly often)

If the Reply-To: points to the list, many (all?) MTAs will send this
message to the list (to the annoyance of all subscribers) *and* this
message will be send to this particular subscribed. Again, it can't be 
delivered, and the MTA sends a message about this to the list 

Can you say ping-pong.

The whole list would be the not-so-cheerful audience of the MTA
talking to himself.

End of discussion I hope.

Ciao,
Martin


version control systems

1999-01-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt

Summary: can anyone recommend a good multi-user version control system
with Windows and Unix support, that runs in an acceptable time on a WAN,
which supports binary files?

cvs almost fits the bill, but I need to store Delphi source files in it,
half of which are binary. I would also like a Windows front end for some
of our users, but that's not essential.

I use ClearCase at work. I like the feature set, but $4000 per single
user license (US), with no Linux support? No thanks! Perforce (perforce.com)
is $600 per user and they have Linux client and SERVER support. That's a nice
touch.

Obviously free software is preferred, but a good commercial solution is
acceptable. The server software MUST run on Linux; we don't have any
centralised NT servers. If CVS can do binary files, that's an option.

I don't really need file locking, just version control.


thanks,
Hamish
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oops, gues MC is broken :)

1999-01-08 Thread John Leget
Just updated with potato, maybe not such a good idea :).

Anyway seems Midnight Commander has broken, now comes up

mc: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/lib/libgpm.so.1: undefined symbol: stdscr

bugger :(


cheers



Re: Why not as a newsgroup?

1999-01-08 Thread Didier Verna
Ryszard Lach writes:

Ryszard> If we're spoking about functionality: how to make lists's adress
Ryszard> appear in Reply-To field?

You don't want to do this, NEVER! If somebody posts without being
subscribed, there would be no way for him to get the answer, unless you add
him manually in Cc:. On the contrary, when the Reply-To: goes to the person:

- you can reply to him personnaly (reply)
- you can reply to him and to the list (forward)

If you're fed up with receiving two copies of answers to your message
and beleive it's because of the Reply-To: header, you're wrong. You can filter 
the messages so that only one copy is kept (gnus does this), or you can insert 
a `Mail-Copies-To: never' header in your messages (this assumes that your mail 
agent honors it).

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Re: Why not as a newsgroup?

1999-01-08 Thread Ryszard Lach
> 
> I agree with you, though, that a newsgroup would be nice.  But the current
> format is working just fine for me.  One possible problem with a newsgroup

If we're spoking about functionality: how to make lists's adress appear in
Reply-To field?

Siaco.

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Re: System very slow.

1999-01-08 Thread Ryszard Lach
On Thu, Jan 07, 1999 at 03:38:05PM -0600, Andrew Ivanov wrote:
> I replaced a processor in my computer yesterday, from P120 to P166, and it
> worked fine all day yesterday. But when I cam e back from work today, I
> got this problem:
> Some applications seem to be working very slow.
> For example, telnet/ftp now take about 20 seconds to start.
> But when it starts, speed of connection is almost as fast as always.
> xterm takes forever, between 30 seconds and a minute ( Not the initial one
> with the X startup, but ones after that.)

I had recently similar problem: all serwice started by inetd was delayed. Since
I had also other hardware-based problems (like VIM crash, manual crash etc) I
changed the mainboard and CPU. Now all works fine.

Siaco.

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analog and virtual hosts

1999-01-08 Thread Pere Camps
Hi!

Does anybody know a straightforward way to have stats for web
access for my different virtual hosts without having to have each host in
its own log file?

I'm now logging the hits with this format:

LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\" %T
%v"

And an example:

nodoiuna.lsi.upc.es - - [30/Dec/1998:16:02:34 +0100] "GET /curs99.html
HTTP/1.0" 200 7401 "http://ceo.upc.es/"; "Mozilla/3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS
5.5.1 sun4u)" 0 ceo.upc.es

Where ceo.upc.es is the virtual host.

I now have 7 virtual hosts residing on my system. All of them are
very low resource hungry.

TIA!

-- p.


Re: ld: warning / not elf file? /make menuconfig

1999-01-08 Thread Vaibhav Shandilya


On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, pjintel wrote:

> Hi
> Im using debian 2.0
> 
> 1)when i tried to install wmsysmon
> 
> I received this warning:
> ld: warning: libc.so.6, needed by /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so, may
> conflict with libc.so.5
> 
> And when i run wmsysmon i get a segmentation fault. Does anybody know
> how I can solve this?
> 
> 2) netscape communicator startup problems
> netscape: '/usr/local/netscape/plugins/cpPack1.jar.old' is not an ELF
> file ERROR: Not an ELF file
> Cant load plugin /usr/local/netscape/plugins/cpPack1.jar.old. Ignored.
> 
> Netscape startups but will anyone explain how i can solve this?
> 
> 3)make menuconfig
> 
> Installing 2.0.36, I got this error:
> There seems to be a problem with the lxdialog companion utility which is
> 
> built prior to running Menuconfig.  Usually this is an indicator that
> you
> have upgraded/downgraded your ncurses libraries and did not remove the
> old ncurses header file(s) in /usr/include or /usr/include/ncurses.
> 
> It is VERY important that you have only one set of ncurses header files
> and that those files are properly version matched to the ncurses
> libraries
> installed on your machine.
> 
> You may also need to rebuild lxdialog.  This can be done by moving to
> the /usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog directory and issuing the
> "make clean all" command.
> 
> If you have verified that your ncurses install is correct, you may email
> 
> the author <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or post a message on the
> linux.dev.kernel
> news group for additional assistance.
> make: *** [menuconfig] Error 139
> 
> Anyone help me pls?
> 
> 4) When I tried to run mtv(mpeg player)
> I get this error:
> 
> debian:~/mtv# ./mtv
> ./mtv: '/usr/lib/libforms.so.0.88' is not an ELF file
> ./mtv: '/lib/libforms.so.0.88' is not an ELF file
> ./mtv: can't load library 'libforms.so.0.88'
a>

I ran mtv on redhat 4.1 and redhat 5.2 there doesn't seem to be anything
wrong
with the library but since it's saying that libforms.so.0.88 is not an ELF
file .This shows that perhaps the file is corrupted so my advise is to
download the library again.

 
> I had earlier on according to the README mv libforms.so.0.88 to /usr/lib
> 
> and ran ldconfig:
> debian:~# ldconfig
> ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libforms.so.0.88 is not a shared library,
> skipping
> ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libpthread-mpegtv.so.0.7 is not a  shared
> library, skipping
> ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libpthread-mpegtv.so.0 is not a shared
> library, skipping
> ldconfig: warning: /lib/libpthread-mpegtv.so.0.7 is not a shared
> ldconfig: warning: /lib/libpthread-mpegtv.so.0.7 is not a shared
> library, skipping
> ldconfig: warning: /lib/libforms.so.0.88 is not a shared; ibrary,
> skipping
> 
> Any help would be appreciated
> Thanx
i
Seems like the same problem. Download the library again.
> 
> 
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