Re: Tarjetas gráficas AGP

1999-01-09 Thread Roberto Ruisanchez Mazo
Antonio Angel Sanz Arróspide wrote:

 He intentado instalar el gestor KDE porque he oído que es muy
bueno
 y con muchas utilidades. Lo he intentado instalar desde el tercer
CDROM
 de la distribución de Debian, pero se queja de que faltan librerías,
 etc. ¿ Alguien lo ha instalado desde aquí sin problemas ?.

Yo lo he instalado pero no se puede decir que sin problemas... Tal y
como dices el
programa se quejaba de que le faltaban librerías que yo sabía que si
estaban instaladas.
Despues de preguntar a un amigo, este me dio la solución. Solo tuve
que pasar el
'ldconfig' que, por las pocas explicaciones que me dio, actualiza los
links que se produjeron
en la instalación, y ya *casi* funcionó.
Digo casi porque para hacerlo funcionar tengo que cargar el 'xinit'
primero (creo que para
cargar el servidor de ventanas) y luego hacer 'startkde' (con lo que
cargo el entorno de
ventanas).
Se que lo correcto sería modificar el fichero '.xinitrc', pero es
que... no lo encuentro!!
En mi directorio de root no esta, y aunque en el man he leido que tira
de otro fichero cuando
no encuentra xinitrc, lo cierto es que admito mi inutilidad para
encontrarle.  Un poco de
ayuda, por favor... :-)
Otra cuestion. He intentado compilar el nucleo para darle soporte a
mi tarjeta de sonido,
y lo he hecho pasando primero 'make menu-config' y luego 'make-kpkg
kernel-image', y resulta
que la compilación se me para precisamente cuando llega a la compilación
del sonido y se
interrumpe con un error que dice algo como 'use CONFIG-AUDIO para la
configuración del
sonido'.
Alguno sabeis a que se refiere o que debería hacer??
Gracias por todo por anticipado...
--
Roberto Ruisanchez Mazo
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://welcome.to/ruisan-world



TO-TH: Informe de progresos

1999-01-09 Thread Antonio A. Rivas Ojanguren





Saludos tocayo.

 Hay novedades que hacen del ltimo 
mensaje que te mand un monton de palos de ciego.

 Siguiendo las indicaciones de Marcelo E. 
Magalln he logrado arrancar el sistema que instal en el disco 
duro. Ello me permiti obtener una copia de los mensajes del kernel 
(archivo adjunto mensajes_kernel.txt); hchale una ojeada a ver 
qu se te ocurre. 
 Su 
acertada sugerencia fue utilizar LOADLIN.EXE desde la particin DOS, a 
modo de puerta trasera, de la siguiente forma: loadlin linux rescue root=/dev/sda4

 En el archivo SISTEMA.TXT tienes detallada 
la configuracin de mi ordenador as como la descripcin de 
las particiones de los discos. Leelo, te ayudar a entender algunos 
mensajes del kernel que puedan parecerte sorprendentes o sospechosos por 
inesperados.

 Ahora el problema se reduce a cmo 
arrancar el sistema directamente, sin tener que pasar por MIERDOWS (lo siento, 
creo que se me ha notado). Cualquier idea que se te ocurra ser 
bienvenida, yo estoy 'out'.

 Cambiando un poco de tema y dado que ya 
puedo acceder al sistema. te importara orientarme sobre 
cmo configurarlo, qu mdulos instalar, y dnde? 
Olvida de momento las x-windows y cntrate en lo mnimo para tener 
un sistema apaadito y coqueto, lo justo para ir aprendiendo, ms 
adelante ya veremos.

 Se me olvidaba, he instalado DEBIAN 
2.0.

 Hasta la prxima.

Antonio A. Rivas
PLANTILLA DE CONFIGURANCION DEL SISTEMA

Procesador : 486DX4
Velocidad  : 100MHz
Fabricante : Intel
Placa Madre:80486 Motherboard   Chipset : Ami Bios
Memoria Ram: 24MB
Puertos:
serie:  COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4
paralelo:   LPT1, LPT2
Raton : Marble TrackBallFabricante: LogitechTipo: serie Puerto: 
COM1 (ttyS0)
Discos duros:   Tipo:   Tamaño
 1 Seagate ST3630AIDE 602MB
 2  Seagate ST34520W  SCSI   4.5GB  Controladora:: Adaptec  
 Modelo: 2940UW
Sistema Operativo: Windows 9x/Linux
Disco: 1Partición: Primaria FAT16  Tamñao: 504MB
Arrancable: SI
Disco  2Partición: PrimariaTamaño: 7.8MB
Arrancable: SI
Partición: Primaria FAT16  Tamaño: 1733.55Mb
Arrancable: SI
Partición: Primaria Linux Ext2  Tamaño: 203.96MB
Arrancable: SI
Partición: Lógica Linux SwapTamaño: 94.15MB Arrancable: NO
Partición: Lógica FAT16 Tamaño: 6043.23MB   Arrancable: NO
Partición: Lógica Linux Ext2Tamaño: 604.01MB
Arrancable: NO
Partición: Lógico Linux Ext2Tamaño: 1051.13MB   
Arrancable: NO
CD-ROM: IDE-ATAPI   Fabricante: Toshiba Modelo: XM-6302B
X-Windows: NO
Video Card: SVGAFabricante: S3  Modelo: Trio64UV+ (767) 
Rev C   RAM: 2MB
Monitor: SVGAFabricante: SONY Co.   Modelo: CPD-200SX   Max Scan 
Rate:72Hz (*)
Sonido: SI  Fabricante: Desconocido Modelo: Audio Excel 16 (SB Pro 
Compatible)
Networking: NO
Modem:SIFabricante: Sitre Telecom   Modelo:  Rockwell 33.6 DPF PnP  
Puerto serie: COM4 (ttyS3)
Computer hostname: debian
NIC: NO

(*) De éste dato no estoy seguro.

NOTAS ADICIONALES:
-Particiones del disco SCSI:
sda1 - Primaria FAT16  1733.55MB
sda2 - No definida  0.04MB
sda3 - Boot Manager   7.8MB
sda4 - Linux Ext2 203.96MB/
sda5 - Linux Swap   94.14MB
(**)sda6 - Lógica FAT16   643.23MB
sda7 - Linux Ext2 604.01MB/usr
sda8 - Linux Ext21051.13MB   /home
(**) esta es la partición desde la que instalo debian (la reservo para una 
futura instalación del OS2, y para los archivos de trabajo:
textos, programas, gráficos, etc...)

-Disco IDE
hdc1 - Primaria FAT16504MB
  Éste disco es identificado como 'hdc' porque lo tengo conectado al puerto 
secundario de la placa y en las opciones de la BIOS
 éste conector lo desactivo para que la BIOS asigne al disco SCSI la C: Es la 
única manera que encontré de arrancar desde
 el disco SCSI (si crees que sería interesante ampliar esta información no 
tendré empacho en contarte mis peripecias con mi
 ordenador mágico y los discos fastasma). Dado que desde windows puedo acceder 
a él lo utilizo como backup del sistema. Así,
 cuando windows me regala un hermoso cuelgue irrecuperable sólo tengo que 
activar el puerto secundario en la BIOS para arrancar
 desde el disco IDE y hacer un volcado de la copia en la partición SCSI donde 
tengo el windows colgante para recuperar sistema en
 unos minutos.


   Creo que está todo, pero seguro que olvido algo, así que si necesitas 
información adicional, ya sabes..., para eso está 'emilio'.Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000f7800
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xf7810
pcibios_init : PCI BIOS 

off-topic (freebsd)

1999-01-09 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a todos y por supuesto feliz año a todos.

He estado leyendo articulos sobre FreeBsd, tambien he visitado la pagina en
español, y tengo muchas dudas.

¿Habeis usado este sistema operativo?
¿Que me podeis contar sobre el? (comparando con las distribuciones Debian de
Linux)

El sistema de paquetes, ¿es mas facil que el de Debian?

Saludos.


help

1999-01-09 Thread El NeNE KaKa
help


prueba, no leer

1999-01-09 Thread Ismael Valladolid
Disculpad este mensaje, pero creo que mi correo no esta llegando a la lista.


Re: Tarjetas gráficas AGP

1999-01-09 Thread Ismael Valladolid
El 09 de enero de 1999 a las 01:30, Roberto Ruisanchez Mazo escribió:
 Digo casi porque para hacerlo funcionar tengo que cargar el 'xinit'
 primero (creo que para
 cargar el servidor de ventanas) y luego hacer 'startkde' (con lo que
 cargo el entorno de
 ventanas).
 Se que lo correcto sería modificar el fichero '.xinitrc', pero es
 que... no lo encuentro!!

Situate en tu home y teclea

$ echo exec `which kde`  ~/.xsession
$ chmod +x ~/.xsession

Con esto creas el fichero ejecutable .xsession que carga tu gestor de
ventanas. Puedes hacerlo en .xinitrc, pero entonces te vale solo para
startx, mientras que .xsession vale tambien para xdm.

 En mi directorio de root no esta, y aunque en el man he leido que tira
 de otro fichero cuando
 no encuentra xinitrc, lo cierto es que admito mi inutilidad para
 encontrarle.  Un poco de
 ayuda, por favor... :-)

Si no esta, crealo, majo, que te lo tienen que dar todo hecho ;)

Suerte y un saludo.
-- 
Ismael Valladolid Torres
Rubens 26, 1ºA, Móstoles
28933 MADRID (SPAIN)

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Error al imprimir

1999-01-09 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a todos...

Estoy experimentando el siguiente error al imprimir con lpr 

lp: Link_send: PROTOCOL ERROR - pending input from 'localhost' after ACK 
received
job 'cfA496angel.dominio.angel' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed

y no llega ni a cargar el modulo lp, tal y como hacia antes.

Antes (hace unos dias), funcionaba perfectamente, he actualizado libc6 a la
version 2.0.7v-1 y el gs-5.10-1 (entre otras cosas). En particular, sospecho
de libc6.

Tambien he activado niveles mas altos de debug en lpr, pero no alcanzo a
comprender los mensajes.

Utilizo lprng 3.5.2-1 y magicfilter.

¿Sabeis que puede ser?

Saludos.


Re: (off-topic) Linux Actual y cedés defectuosos.

1999-01-09 Thread EB3DOL
Gabriel B. wrote:
 
 Hola.
 
 Me parece que alguien de Linux Actual envió un mensaje diciendo que cambiaban 
 los cds
 defectuosos del nº4. He perdido algo de correo. Si alguien me puede enviar 
 ese mensaje se
 lo agradecería.
 
 Un Saludo.
 Gabriel B.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Es una pena, pero LINUX ACTUAL no hace puto
caso, ni a los email, ni a los cds enviados
para cambiar. No te molestes, son asi.

El 20 de noviembre de 1998 mande los mios 
para el cambio y sigo esperando. No se han
molestado en responder para nada.

Por mi, la revista ya puede quebrar, me 
importa un bledo. Ni un duro mas para esta
gente. 




Alguna forma de añadir las fuentes de las x a ghostcript y staroffice

1999-01-09 Thread Antonio Calvo Rodriguez
He estado viendo como añadir las fuentes de los paquetes sharefont y
freefont a 
ghostscript y a staroffice 5 y no lo he conseguido.
Alguien sabe de alguna forma sencilla de añadir fuentes a ghostscript y
a staroffice
-- 
Antonio Calvo Rodriguez
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vigo/Galicia/España
--


Re: 2.2 ready ?

1999-01-09 Thread Bert Barbe
Thanks for all the responses I got. I think I'm going to check out Slink :)

Thx

Bert

Bert Barbe wrote:
 
 Is there a distribution that is kernel v. (pre-)2.2 ready (= having
 the right versions of neccessary tools to run linux (pre-)2.2)
 
 Thanks
 
 Bert
 
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recite: sprache zu shcnell

1999-01-09 Thread Alexander N. Benner
hi
When I play something with recite I only get a muffeld fast sound but no text.
Can this be a mistake in the sound mod. ?

What parameters could I tune.

Greetings

-- 
Alexander N. Benner - Christen im Internet - http://www.christen.net/
pgp : E7BCBEBD   53 5F 48 0A 0D 3E 4A 38  A8 11 B1 AF BE 08 C8 B0

You can't be american if you don't have children. I need a wife soon.
  MegaHAL


Re: 2.2 ready ? (APT holding packages back. Way off original topic)

1999-01-09 Thread Christian Lavoie
 Slink works, over here (I think I have mostly slink installed now, 
SANE is the
 only packet I know is potato, and a loot of other package are still 
hamm.
 Apt-tells me that it is holding back a bit over 100 packets.)

BTW:

Why in hell does sometimes APT holds packages back? Last time it 
happened to me, it was a gnome build. I think it was having trouble 
between libungif3g and giflib3g. What was going on?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Starting KDE at boot time

1999-01-09 Thread MallarJ
In a message dated 1/8/99 12:31:30 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

  1) About runlevels, I currently run at level 2, do I just change the value
in
   the inittab to 5 and be done with it?  or are there more things to
consider?
  
  You can do that.  Is that really something you need to do, though?

No, I was just under the impression that you needed to be at runlevel 5 to run
xdm at startup.  If I can run at level 2, fine with me.  Is there a
policy/standard on this?

   2) I figured out how xdm starts.  Init does it via the rc.* files.  All
of
   them link back to /etc/init.d/xdm - a script that does the dirty work.
It
   uses start-stop-daemon to actually start the xdm program.  Question is, I
need
   to start kdm instead of xdm.  Is it acceptable to just rename the xdm
program
   to xdm.old and put a link to kdm in it's place?  or is it better to
change  the
   script to start kdm?
  
  There should be a /etc/init.d/kdm file that starts KDM for you.  The
  symlinks should have been created in the appropriate /etc/rcX.d
  directories as well.  All you should have to do is edit /etc/X11/config so
  it says start-kdm instead of start-xdm.

I compiled my KDE (as there weren't any binaries available for the 1.0
version), and it didn't created any of these files.  I have no start-kdm file,
no symlinks to the kdm program, and no start-kdm line in my X11 config.  This
is part of my confusion.

   3) The startx is self-explanatory.  The startkde brings up the kwm and
other KDE
   utils that bring up the desktop.  There are actually 5 or 6 things that
get
   started.  How do I get all of these to come up when kdm starts?  The
   instructions with KDE didn't help much.  Should I just add these to the
bottom
   of the xdm script in init.d?  Or is there a better way to do it?
  
  No no no, that would be bad.  You do not want kwm, kfm, kpanel, and all
  that other stuff to be running when kdm is up.  You want those things
  to run AFTER the person gives a valid login/passwd combo to KDM.  Having
  all those things running along with kdm would be a lot like having an
  xterm up on your xdm screen.  What's the point in having the login screen
  there when there's already a root shell up???
  
  You should edit /etc/X11/window-manages and put startkde alone on the
  first line.  The first line of that file is the default window manager.
  Of course, we know that startkde isn't a window manager, but it will run
  the window manager, and everything is good.
  

Okay, I see your point on this one.  I'm still trying to figure out what to
start when.

I reread the help files that I do have for KDE and they say the following:

* kdm is a drop-in replacement for xdm.  It mentions renaming the current
xdm and linking kdm to xdm instead of messing with inittab.

* it says to add kdedesktop to my Xsetup_0 file - but I don't have a clue why
or what this does.

So, I'm still clueless on how this all works.  If anyone has KDE running (from
the binaries), would they mind running through their scripts and config files
and letting me know what to set where?

TIA
-Jay


Re: Lyx with typein

1999-01-09 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
 Okay, everybody says lyx is great, but for the darnest, I can't get it
 to work with latex's \typein.
Hi,

This is my personal opinion.  I'm not particularly enthusiastic about Lyx, it 
does not give me any speed up at all to build TeX file.  It's quite limited 
also.But more importantly thing that worries me is that there seems to be 
very little support behind LyX,  project looks dying to me.  Please, please 
tell me that I am wrong, after all I would love good interface around TeX.

I use Xemacs AucTeX

Sasha.


Re: Modifying /usr/info/dir (EMACS)

1999-01-09 Thread john
Richard Lyon writes:
 Will custom modifications to dir cause a problem?

No.

 What will happen if I install a debian package at a later date which
 contains info files? Will dir be maintained correctly?

Yes.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI


Re: make-kpkg terminated before completion

1999-01-09 Thread Charles Kaufman


On 8 Jan 1999, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

 Hi, 
   May I suggest the kernel_image target for make-kpkg? For most
 Yes you may-who better?
  people, the kernel-image-XXX-YYY package is the only one relevant;
  everything else is only there for completeness. And for personal use,
  you do not need the pgp signature. kernel-image target does not
  invoke pgp.
 
   manoj
That's a very valuable hint. When I saw the .deb packages produced
all but one did seem superfluous and I only installed that one. man pages
seem ritually diffident. Are  examples or suggestions for typical use 
formally forbidden or discouraged? Or did I miss such a suggestion
in the make-dpkg page? 
 Thanks again for the help (and the program).
   chuck


D-Link DE 220 Ethernet Card

1999-01-09 Thread Ken Galloway
Hi All,

Asked this question yesterday, anybody have any hints how to get
this to work with Debian 2.0, crashes on installation and using
the rescue disk

if u want to flame me great... i just want to get it working
with debian... if not hey it works great with redhat


Ken Galloway


Re: D-Link DE 220 Ethernet Card

1999-01-09 Thread Mike Brownlow
Ken Galloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Asked this question yesterday, anybody have any hints how to get
 this to work with Debian 2.0, crashes on installation and using
 the rescue disk
 
 if u want to flame me great... i just want to get it working
 with debian... if not hey it works great with redhat
 
 
 Ken Galloway
 
 
 -- 
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null

I had problems with that card as well. Although I think I got it to work once
by changing which slot it was in. Have you tried all the many IRQ's and base
addresses? I remember having to switch to the console screen and play around
with insmod for a while. But for the record, I haven't gotten it to work since.

Too little too late did I see that DE220's are in the bad_clone_list in
ne.c that they none-the-less recognize.

Didn't have problems with a DFE-500TX from D-Link though.

HTH,

-- 
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To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. Romans 16:27


Re: D-Link DE 220 Ethernet Card

1999-01-09 Thread shitsu
I have that card, actually three, in the driver it advised against, I cannot
recall the reason but make sure you are using a recent kernel

The card works find for me under linux-2.0.35 linux-2.0.36 linux-2.2.0pre1


Re: D-Link DE 220 Ethernet Card

1999-01-09 Thread Mike Brownlow
Mike Brownlow mike wrote:
 Ken Galloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All,
  
  Asked this question yesterday, anybody have any hints how to get
  this to work with Debian 2.0, crashes on installation and using
  the rescue disk
  
  if u want to flame me great... i just want to get it working
  with debian... if not hey it works great with redhat
  
  
  Ken Galloway
 
 I had problems with that card as well. Although I think I got it to work once
 by changing which slot it was in. Have you tried all the many IRQ's and base
 addresses? I remember having to switch to the console screen and play around
 with insmod for a while. But for the record, I haven't gotten it to work 
 since.
 
 Too little too late did I see that DE220's are in the bad_clone_list in
 ne.c that they none-the-less recognize.
 
 Didn't have problems with a DFE-500TX from D-Link though.
 
 HTH,

Ok, just tried it with my newer computer (and 2.0.36) and it worked ok. It
didn't work before on my older 486 (with 2.0.34).

-- 
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To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. Romans 16:27


Installing hamm on a HP Vectra VL 8

1999-01-09 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Folks,

Has anyone sucessfully install hamm on a HP Vectra VL8?  I am having
problems with my built in ethernet card.  NT says that the card is
3C905B  I compiled the kernel with support for 3C59X and bootup is
fine.  But I am not even able to ping my gateway.

S.
-- 
Now, sweetie, don't worry about a thing.  I'll teach you to comb it
 over so no one can tell.  Just like my hair! -- Homer J. Simpson
Sudhakar C13n   http://people.netscape.com/thaths/   Indentured Slave


Re: Chat scrpit trouble

1999-01-09 Thread Kent West
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Jeff Katcher wrote:
 Not that I blame them its like playing darts blindfolded on a turntable,
 Jeff Katcher


And the under-20 crowd says, What's a turntable?  :)

-- 
Kent West
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails.
Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC!
Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought


Re: D-Link DE 220 Ethernet Card

1999-01-09 Thread Kent West
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Ken Galloway wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 Asked this question yesterday, anybody have any hints how to get
 this to work with Debian 2.0, crashes on installation and using
 the rescue disk
 
 if u want to flame me great... i just want to get it working
 with debian... if not hey it works great with redhat
 
 
 Ken Galloway
 
 
 
Some time ago I got a DE-220 working; had to turn off the PnP feature of
the card (using D-Link's DOS-based SETUP22P utility).

-- 
Kent West
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails.
Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC!
Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought


RE: Remote Booting Question

1999-01-09 Thread Kent West
On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Russ Swallow wrote:

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Messinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 7:37 PM
 Subject: Re: Remote boot question
 
 
 If I understand you correctly you are just trying to re-boot win95 pc's
 from a Linux box. Is this right? Ok, here is the easy solution. Many
 will cringe and scoff, but it works and it is free. Use BackOrofice
 (yea, the one from the cult of the dead cow). It should work great for
 this. It is free and can be configured so as to be secure.
 
 
 Actually, we were trying to remove the OS from the clients altogether;
 although if I am understanding you correctly :
 
 1)  Windows will boot and can then be configured to reboot immeditely using
 the OS stored remotely on the server
 
 2)  BackOffice can be configured to ensure safety (I've never heard that
 said before)
 
 3)  The Linux server (client) is readily available (and not difficult to
 find)
 
 Is this correct?
 
 
 You will need BackOrofice server to place on the win95 pc's, and the
 BackOrofice Linux client to control them.
 
 
 I found the BackOffice serveron the M$ site.  Where may I locate the Linux
 system and are there any tips to configuration?
 
 
 Opinions?
 
 -Ben Messiger
 

No, not BackOffice. BackOrifice. I believe it's a utility that some group
wrote to expose some weaknesses in M$ NT/BackOffice/?. Do a web search on
it for more info.

-- 
Kent West
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KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails.
Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC!
Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought



Is there a deb that does this?

1999-01-09 Thread Amanda Shuler
Is there a program for Linux that will tell you do a monthly scan to see
if there are any users that have not logged in for at least four months
and then send an email to root with a list of these users?
  
I've been struggling with a bash shell script, and (due to my lack of
programming experience, I guess) have had no luck.
So I was wondering if I was trying to reinvent the wheel?

-
Amanda Shuler   | I don't want to start any
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   | blasphemous rumours, but...
-


Re: Lyx with typein

1999-01-09 Thread Jameson Burt
  Okay, everybody says lyx is great, but for the darnest, I can't get it
  to work with latex's \typein.
 Hi,
 
 This is my personal opinion.  I'm not particularly enthusiastic about Lyx, it 
 does not give me any speed up at all to build TeX file.  It's quite limited 
 also.But more importantly thing that worries me is that there seems to be 
 very little support behind LyX,  project looks dying to me.  Please, please 
 tell me that I am wrong, after all I would love good interface around TeX.
 
 I use Xemacs AucTeX
 
 Sasha.
 
 
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The author of lyx works heavily on kde.
Since lyx, he has developed klyx.
I believe the klyx version number is in the upper .9*,
more impressive than a lyx of 0.12.
Unfortunately, I don't see a debian version of klyx in either the
hamm or slink distributions.

-- 
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Re: version control systems

1999-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 09:22:26AM -0800, Mike Touloumtzis wrote:
 I use Perforce at work and have been happy both with its quality and
 with the responsiveness of Perforce support.  Their software has run on
 Linux for quite a while now, which is a nice positive.

The Windows client looks a bit average. The mechanism doesn't APPEAR
to cope with a development environment like Delphi, where you move between
files all the time. It wants to load your editor for a file, then close it
and open it again on the next.

I will look at some of the CVS frontends.

Hamish
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Re: bootlog on debian 2.0 missing: more people with problem

1999-01-09 Thread Jameson Burt
Benno Overeinder [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
 
   To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
   Subject: Re: bootlog on debian 2.0 missing in /var/log/messages 
   From: Benno Overeinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 12:01:46 +0100 
   cc: Jameson Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] 
   In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 06 Jan 1999 01:05:42 EST.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
 
  
  Where is it on the 2.0 version. the /var/log/messages is very abbreviated
  the /var/log/syslog is also very abbreviated
  
  ditto.
 [...]
  I suspect that a line must now be missing from some /etc/init.d/* file, eg,
  klogd -o -f /var/log/messages
  However, such a line would need to be early in the boot: after /etc/rcS.d/*
  files run but before most every other boot file since a permanent klogd
  daemon runs in the file
 /etc/rc2.d/S10sysklogd
  
  I could insert a klogd -o command in one of the boot files, 
  if that is what was used before, but I hate to do what should already
  be done somehow.
  Any ideas?  For example, does your
 grep klogd /etc/init.d/*
  reveal a klogd with the -o option?
 
 I have two Debian installations.  One of them is upgraded from 1.3 to 2.0.  
 On 
 this system the /var/log/messages contains the boot messages.  On the other 
 system, I installed a brand new Debain 2.0 distribution (no upgrade).  On 
 this 
 system, I only see the minimal mark messages, but _no_ boot messages.
 
 Next thing I did is to compare the files in the init.d directory of both 
 systems.  Apart from the network numbers, the files were identical.  So I am 
 afraid the problem is more subtle (and I still don't have any clue).
 

I checked with a friend who runs Debian.
He recently installed Debian on a new computer, getting the same 
missing boot-log messages in /var/log/messages.
Searching dejanews, I see many people being told they can see
their boot-log messages in /var/log/messages.
New users would not know that the trickle of messages now going 
to /var/log/messages all come after booting has finished.

I tried Bennow Overeinder's possible unqualified hostname in /etc/hosts.
I also tried variations in resolv.conf, nsswitch.conf, and hostname.
None resulted in boot-log messages to /var/log/messages.

In the past, I would see the following log messages on booting,
Dec 13 12:41:33 rabbit syslogd 1.3-3#17.1: restart.
Dec 13 12:41:33 rabbit kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Dec 13 12:41:33 rabbit kernel: Loaded 4466 symbols from 
/boot/System.map-2.0.33.
Dec 13 12:41:33 rabbit kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.0.33.
Dec 13 12:41:33 rabbit kernel: No module symbols loaded.
Dec 13 12:41:33 rabbit kernel: Console: 16 point font, 400 scans 
.
. 
.


I now see only these messages on booting,
Jan  8 22:51:36 rabbit syslogd 1.3-3#26: restart.
Jan  8 22:51:40 rabbit kernel: eth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. 
Jan  8 22:51:40 rabbit kernel: eth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. 
Jan  8 23:09:43 rabbit kernel: IP fw-out deny lo UDP 192.168.1.1:1026 
192.168.1.1:53 L=61 S=0x00 I=36 F=0x T=64
Jan  8 23:09:43 rabbit kernel: IP fw-out deny lo UDP 192.168.1.1:1027 
192.168.1.1:53 L=61 S=0x00 I=37 F=0x T=64
Jan  8 23:09:46 rabbit kernel: IP fw-out deny lo UDP 192.168.1.1:1028 
192.168.1.1:53 L=67 S=0x00 I=38 F=0x T=64
Jan  8 23:09:46 rabbit kernel: IP fw-out deny lo UDP 192.168.1.1:1031 
192.168.1.1:53 L=67 S=0x00 I=39 F=0x T=64
Jan  8 23:09:47 rabbit kernel: registered device ppp0 
Jan  8 23:09:47 rabbit pppd[710]: pppd 2.3.5 started by jameson, uid 1000
.
.
.

of which the last two messages come from an after boot ppp connection,
so you can see how brief the bootlog is.

I notice that /etc/rc2.d/S10sysklogd starts the syslogd and, in the good
case above, also the klogd daemon.  In the good case, immediately 
many messages are logged at the same time.

I have the latest sysklog package,
   sysklogd_1.3-26.deb
I run under the hamm distribution.
I ran hamm for about 8 months with no boot logging problems,
then I finally finished my hamm installation by running dselect 
several times [before I had only used dpkg additions to hamm].
Of course, when I upgrade I make other changes, so besides looking
at upgrade changes, I also try to remember my changes.

On writing this, I notice the System-map-2.0.33 in the good version,
so I'll try putting one corresponding to my current kernel in /boot.

This is taking a bit of sleuthing: this is a great hobby.
Any ideas why I and many others get no boot-log messages in /var/log/messages?

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Re: Is there a deb that does this?

1999-01-09 Thread Joey Hess
Amanda Shuler wrote:
 Is there a program for Linux that will tell you do a monthly scan to see
 if there are any users that have not logged in for at least four months
 and then send an email to root with a list of these users?
   
 I've been struggling with a bash shell script, and (due to my lack of
 programming experience, I guess) have had no luck.
 So I was wondering if I was trying to reinvent the wheel?

'lastlog' will get you part way there. You just have to somehow sort the
output by date. Sorry, I'm feeling lazy or I'd write it.

-- 
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Any good Debian books?

1999-01-09 Thread n0cwr
I am searching for a good Debian Linux book. 
Does one exist? I tried meta keyword searches as above and
didn't come up with anything specific to Debian.
I have Using Linux published by QUE - Slackware
and Linux Unleashed published by Sams - Redhat5.1, OpenLinux and Caldera.

Anything for Debian?

I've still got some hurtles to overcome.
Read my CD ROM. Dial my ISP. You know the basics.


MAN pages are good, but I would like a good book.


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Re: Is there a deb that does this?

1999-01-09 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote:
 'lastlog' will get you part way there. You just have to somehow sort the
 output by date. Sorry, I'm feeling lazy or I'd write it.

Not lazy anymore. :-)

lastlog | perl -MDate::Parse -ne 'm/((\s+\S+){4})$/  time - str2time($1)  60 
* 60 * 24 * 30 * 4  print $_'

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Re: Any good Debian books?

1999-01-09 Thread ktb
I haven't been in this game too long but the only Debian specific book I have 
come
across can be found here:
http://www.linuxpress.com/001002.htm

I have looked at several books and from a beginners perspective the only ones I 
have
found worth my money, at this point are:
Linux in a Nutshell, O'reilly Jessica Hekman
Running Linux, O'reilly  Matt Welsh  Lar Kaufman
A Practical Guide to Linux, Mark Sobell

Hope that helps,
Kent


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 I am searching for a good Debian Linux book.
 Does one exist? I tried meta keyword searches as above and
 didn't come up with anything specific to Debian.
 I have Using Linux published by QUE - Slackware
 and Linux Unleashed published by Sams - Redhat5.1, OpenLinux and Caldera.

 Anything for Debian?

 I've still got some hurtles to overcome.
 Read my CD ROM. Dial my ISP. You know the basics.

 MAN pages are good, but I would like a good book.

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kernel 2.2.0-pre3 and ppp

1999-01-09 Thread Brandon Mitchell
Ok folks, I just finished updating my slink system (it was a bit out of
date before).  However, I still can't get ppp working with a 2.2.0-p3
kernel I recently compiled.  

The symptoms are:
Jan  9 00:18:20 cnhobbes chat[280]: Password
Jan  9 00:18:20 cnhobbes chat[280]:  -- got it 
Jan  9 00:18:20 cnhobbes chat[280]: send (??)
Jan  9 00:18:21 cnhobbes pppd[279]: Serial connection established.
Jan  9 00:18:21 cnhobbes chat[280]: timeout set to 5 seconds
Jan  9 00:18:22 cnhobbes pppd[279]: Using interface ppp0
Jan  9 00:18:22 cnhobbes pppd[279]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/modem
Jan  9 00:18:52 cnhobbes pppd[279]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Jan  9 00:18:52 cnhobbes pppd[279]: Connection terminated.
Jan  9 00:18:55 cnhobbes pppd[279]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Jan  9 00:18:58 cnhobbes pppd[279]: Terminating on signal 15.
Jan  9 00:18:58 cnhobbes pppd[279]: Exit.

My ppp package version is 2.3.5-2.  Are others having this problem?  What
should I upgrade (potato or the kernel)?  

TIA,
Brandon

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Xfree86 3.3.3 for next Debian release or sooner?

1999-01-09 Thread Chris R. Martin
Just wondering if XFree86 3.3.3 is being considered for the next release
(2.2) or not... I would really like to have XF86 3.3.3 since it contains an
X-server for the Riva TNT chipset. 

Thanks,
Chris


Linux books (was Re: Any good Debian books?)

1999-01-09 Thread Anthony Wong
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 11:24:38PM +, ktb wrote:
|
|I have looked at several books and from a beginners perspective the only ones 
I have
|found worth my money, at this point are:
|Linux in a Nutshell, O'reilly Jessica Hekman
|Running Linux, O'reilly  Matt Welsh  Lar Kaufman
|A Practical Guide to Linux, Mark Sobell

Yesterday I saw a Linux book in a book store, I flipped through the book
and my first impression is it's quite suitble for beginners. I can't
commend more as I have not read it thoroughly. FYI, the book is called
Linux A-Z, by Phil Cornes, Prentice Hall. The price is about US$25.

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Is there a hamm to slink HOWTO?

1999-01-09 Thread Alan Eugene Davis
I have at last found time to reinstall hamm, and mounting the same
/usr/local filesystems with few problems.  My system has been out
of sync for quite some time.  Now I am able to compile C++ ok (wasn't 
able to for a while).  

I want to upgrade the packages necessary to compile newer
kernels---can I install them from slink with no problem, or do I need
to upgrade the distribution completely?

Hope springs eternal... !

Alan Davis

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kernel 2.2 and modutils

1999-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
There must be a trick to this.

I just installed kernel 2.2.0-pre6. modutils doesn't insert anything;
depmod -a says

[5:50pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# depmod -a
can't open /lib/modules/2.2.0-pre6/modules.dep

which is because the modules are in /lib/modules/2.2.0 instead.

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Re: kernel 2.2 and modutils

1999-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 05:52:48PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 There must be a trick to this.
 
 I just installed kernel 2.2.0-pre6. modutils doesn't insert anything;
 depmod -a says
 
 [5:50pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# depmod -a
 can't open /lib/modules/2.2.0-pre6/modules.dep
 
 which is because the modules are in /lib/modules/2.2.0 instead.

make-kpkg in potato, of course.

Hamish
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Re: Xfree86 3.3.3 for next Debian release or sooner?

1999-01-09 Thread Ed Cogburn
Chris R. Martin wrote:
 
 Just wondering if XFree86 3.3.3 is being considered for the next release
 (2.2) or not... I would really like to have XF86 3.3.3 since it contains an
 X-server for the Riva TNT chipset.
 
 Thanks,
 Chris


Just go to xfree86.org, download the 3.3.3 Xserver (by itself)
that you need, and drop it in in place of your current Xserver
(make a backup just in case).  Works for me, and a good way to get
the new functionality without having to wait for Debian 2.3.


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sd_mod in kernel 2.2.0-pre6

1999-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
The sd_mod module in 2.2.0-pre6 doesn't seem to work for me; lots of
missing symbols. Anyone else experienced this? Not serious since my
Zip drive is all that's affected here, but annoying because otherwise
everything works well.


Hamish
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A couple of simple questions... I think

1999-01-09 Thread Brant Wells
Howdy All...

1) I got Netscape 4.5 installed on my system... If I login as ROOT, I am 
not able to run Netscape... What do I do??

2) I've need to print to a printer that is shared on a WinNT 4.0 
machine... as \\DAHOUSE\HPDESKJE  how do I set that up in Linux?


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Brant Wells

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Re: A couple of simple questions... I think

1999-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 12:56:20AM -0800, Brant Wells wrote:
 1) I got Netscape 4.5 installed on my system... If I login as ROOT, I am 
 not able to run Netscape... What do I do??

That's deliberate. You shouldn't need to.

 2) I've need to print to a printer that is shared on a WinNT 4.0 
 machine... as \\DAHOUSE\HPDESKJE  how do I set that up in Linux?

I've never done this, but it looks like you would want do something
like this. Create a shell script, say /usr/local/bin/print-hpdeskje
with the contents

#!/bin/sh
smbclient dahouse\\hpdeskje password -U username -P -c 'print -'

(username and password are for the NT server.)

Then in /etc/printcap, put something like

lp|deskjet:\
:lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/local/bin/print-hpdeskje:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

Thus when you print to the deskjet, lpd will filter it through
the script, which will run smbclient and dump it to the printer on SMB.
(You need to install the samba package for this). Then nothing is sent
to the printer because lp=/dev/null.


Hamish
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Re: A couple of simple questions... I think

1999-01-09 Thread Chad A. Adlawan
cookies are sent to you as you browse thru diff websites and are saved in ur 
home directory

On 1/9/99, at 12:56 AM, Brant Wells wrote:

Howdy All...

1) I got Netscape 4.5 installed on my system... If I login as ROOT, I am
not able to run Netscape... What do I do??

cookies are sent to you as you browse thru diff websites and are saved in ur 
home directory, and you wouldnt want someone to send you .bash_profile w/ some 
crazy lines on it ... that is why netscape will not let you run it as root, (i 
think, just a theoy anyway) ... this is also the same reason it is a very bad 
idea to irc as root (while ur client is set to auto_dcc_get on) .


2) I've need to print to a printer that is shared on a WinNT 4.0
machine... as \\DAHOUSE\HPDESKJE  how do I set that up in Linux?

i know nothing about NT printing, sorry



Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Brant Wells


Upgrade to slink

1999-01-09 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi all,
I want to upgrade my hamm to slink. I have got no idea how to
start. I have heard about apt-get, havn't got into it yet...

But in the mean time, could someone point me out some
documentations for upgrading??

Thanks in advance..


Regards,

Shao.


Elm-me+ Mailboxes

1999-01-09 Thread Stephen M Lavelle
 Hello all

i'm using Elm-me+ to read mail and fetchmail to fetch from my ISP. I would like 
to know how to set up separate mailboxes (i.e 1 for messages from this list, 1 
for another list, 1 for work etc). The docs dont really mention this.

Regards,
Stephen
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Re: make-kpkg terminated before completion

1999-01-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
Charles == Charles Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Charles That's a very valuable hint. When I saw the .deb packages
 Charles produced all but one did seem superfluous and I only
 Charles installed that one. man pages seem ritually diffident. Are
 Charles examples or suggestions for typical use formally forbidden
 Charles or discouraged? Or did I miss such a suggestion in the
 Charles make-dpkg page?

Well, the detailed manual is in /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz,
 where I think it does indicate that only the kernel_image target is
 required 

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Re: Où est passé le paquet tetex-french?

1999-01-09 Thread Mario Bertrand
J'ai finalement réussi à configuré le tout grâce à la doc dans
/usr/doc/texmf/french/README.teTeX

1. tu fais cd /usr/bin et la commande suivante:
  ln -s tex frlatex

2. va faire un tour dans /etc/texmf/fmtutil.cnf décommente la ligne suivante:
  frlatex -mltex -ini frlatex.ini

ou fais le manuellement (moi j'ai passé par « texconfig » à l'étape 3)
et place le fichier frlatex.fmt dans le répertoire /var/lib/texmf/web2c
et exécute la commande texhash selon les instruction du README.

3. tu configure le reste avec  « texconfig » (tu peux y ajuster certains
éléments de base comme l'imprimante et d'autres trucs...), Dans le menu fais un
REHASH et HYPHEN sans rien modifier aux fichiers et le tour est joué. Le
fichier frlatex.fmt ira se placer à la bonne place.

J'ai fait le test sur d'anciens fichiers et cela a fonctionné :-)

Bon, c'était ma façon d'y arriver, mais c'est pas canonique. Tu peux
toujours essayer ou suivre le README, ou encore attendre d'autres répliques.


On 09-Jan-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:- 
:- Mario == Mario Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:- 
:- Mario Salut, Le paquet tetex-french n'est pas dans slink. Celui de
:- hamm
:- Mario est-il compatible avec slink?
:- 
:- Il est integre a tetex-extra car j'arrive toujours a compiler mes
:- fichiers latex en francais. 
:- 
:- 
:- Nicolas
:- 
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Re: Elm-me+ Mailboxes

1999-01-09 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 08:55:31 +1100, Stephen M Lavelle wrote:
 i'm using Elm-me+ to read mail and fetchmail to fetch from my ISP. I would
 like to know how to set up separate mailboxes (i.e 1 for messages from
 this list, 1 for another list, 1 for work etc). The docs dont really
 mention this.

This is a task for a mail delivery agent (like procmail or mailagent), not
for a mail user agent like elm-me+, or for fetchmail (which bridges between
your ISP's mail transfer agent and yours).  

I recommend you install procmail and read its docs.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: A couple of simple questions... I think

1999-01-09 Thread Anthony Wong
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 06:14:01PM +0800, Chad A. Adlawan wrote:
|1) I got Netscape 4.5 installed on my system... If I login as ROOT, I am 
|not able to run Netscape... What do I do??
|
|cookies are sent to you as you browse thru diff websites and are saved in ur 
home directory, and you wouldnt want someone to send you .bash_profile w/ some 
crazy lines on it ... that is why netscape will not let you run it as root, (i 
think, just a theoy anyway) ... this is also the same reason it is a very bad 
idea to irc as root (while ur client is set to auto_dcc_get on) .

I don't think this is the reason. Cookies are stored in ~/.netscape/cookies
only. And the server can't send you a .bash_profile as a cookie.

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Disk maintenance

1999-01-09 Thread Christian Lavoie
What is the best way to defrag/scan disks?

Mounted disks can't be defragged, and you can't umount the root
partition, can you?

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ddd problem

1999-01-09 Thread Waldemar Kocjan
Using Debian 1.3. When I try to do anything with ddd then I get error msg
Can not perform malloc and ddd exits, even if there should be enough
memory. Whats the problem ? 

W.


Re: SoundBlaster Vibra 16 jumperless card under Linux

1999-01-09 Thread John Galt

There is a secondary/tertiary problem: the CD I got with my vibra16 won't
install in strict dos, but requires win3x to install.  The second problem
is that the vibra16 configuration is dependent on two drivers: firstly the
config.sys device driver CTCM, then the autoexec.bat driver CTCU.  Then
you have to run diagnose--I don't play with dosemu too much; I usually
deal with a dual-boot system, so I can't tell you how to get dosemu to run
through all of the drivers in one fell swoop, just how dos treats it on
bootup.  The factory defaults are 0x220 i/o port, 0x300 MPU emulator i/o
port, IRQ 10, DMA 1, and secondary DMA 5 if you wanna configure other
cards around it.  HTH 

On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Damon Muller wrote:

 On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:39:54 -0600 (EST)
 Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What type of BIOS do you have? my PCI PnP bios auto-configured the
  card and I used win98 to find out the irq and dma. There is a package
  called isapnptools that has similar functions. Get it, read the docs,
  ask the list if you need more help. 
 
 This card isn't actually a PnP card, and is not seen by pnpdump. It's a
 jumperless card, so it doesn't have it's resources dictated by the OS,
 but by a configuration program.
 
 I'd perfer not to mess up my delicatly balanced windoze system by adding
 another card, then taking it out and hoping it keeps the same resources.
 
 damon
 
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Re: Disk maintenance

1999-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 01:32:02PM +, Christian Lavoie wrote:
 What is the best way to defrag/scan disks?
 
 Mounted disks can't be defragged, and you can't umount the root
 partition, can you?

I don't know how to defrag a disk (you rarely need to anyway), but the
following would work, for checking as well.

Either boot up the system in `single' or `emergency' mode
(at the LILO prompt, linux single or linux emergency). emergency
in particular will mount the root read-only and enter single user mode.

(I think single will mount all file systems read-write, and still enter
single user mode.)

Or you can shutdown the running system to single user mode;
shutdown -h now will get you to single user mode. Then unmount partitions,
and remount the root read only with

mount -o remount,ro -n /

To get the system back to multiuser, you can either reboot, or remount 
everything read/write and exit the single user shell. (I think the system
goes back to multiuser in this situation). If you forget to remount as read
write, it'll enter multiuser mode with the disk read/only, and you won't
like that.


Hamish
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Re: Elm-me+ Mailboxes

1999-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 12:22:24PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 08:55:31 +1100, Stephen M Lavelle wrote:
  i'm using Elm-me+ to read mail and fetchmail to fetch from my ISP. I would
  like to know how to set up separate mailboxes (i.e 1 for messages from
  this list, 1 for another list, 1 for work etc). The docs dont really
  mention this.
 
 This is a task for a mail delivery agent (like procmail or mailagent), not
 for a mail user agent like elm-me+, or for fetchmail (which bridges between
 your ISP's mail transfer agent and yours).  
 
 I recommend you install procmail and read its docs.

sortmail may be worth considering too. It's simple, but that's both
a shortcoming and an advantage. I've run it here for several years. It's
quite old. 

I now use an exim filter; it's more powerful than sortmail, and faster
to execute since it's built in. I have a procmail filter at one other
account (since it's the only .forward pipe allowed), but would prefer to run
sortmail.

Here's my old .sortmailrc for Debian.

# .rc file for sortmail, which files mail in the right places
# mail goes in to the incoming if unrecognised,
# or to the debian folder if appropriate

set mailbox='/var/spool/mail/hamish'
set folder='Mail'

/hamish/t:m

/debian-announce/h:m
/debian-devel-announce/h:m
/debian-private/h:+debian-private
/debian-changes/h:+debian-changes
/debian-devel-changes/h:+debian-devel-changes
/debian-devel/h:+debian-devel
/debian-user/h:+debian
/debian-policy/h:+debian-policy
/debian-mentors/h:+debian-mentors
/debian-qa/h:+debian-qa
/debian-68k/h:+debian-68k

You can do a lot better with exim or procmail, but it's pretty simple
to set up.

Hamish
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Re: hosts.allow - words of wisdom?

1999-01-09 Thread Carey Evans
Alexander Kushnirenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

 1. Does it have some striking errors?  I bet I forgot some service...

I prefer to put the denies in /etc/hosts.allow as well; something
like:

ALL : ALL : DENY

at the end, to catch anything not explicitly allowed.

I also prefer to use IP addresses instead of names, in case of spoofed 
DNS names and DNS servers being down, so, for example, I have a line:

ALL : 127.0.0.1 192.168.117. : ALLOW

 2. We run xntp3 to set time, but we don't want to be an NTP server.  Do one 
 need to allow some ntp service (NTP protocol is quite sophisticated :(

The xntp3 access control configuration is documented in
/usr/doc/xntp3/html/accopt.html in the xntp3-doc package.

I'm actually using the IP firewall code in Linux 2.2.0-pre5 to provide 
most of the protection to my system.  My ipchains rules are as follows 
(actually saved in /etc/ipchains.save and read by ipchains-restore in 
/etc/init.d/network).

-
# Don't accept any incoming packets not explicitly permitted.
ipchains -P input DENY

# Log any attempts at forwarding.
ipchains -P forward DENY
ipchains -A forward -j DENY -l

# Doesn't matter who we talk _to_.
ipchains -P output ALLOW

# Keep input rules separate for tidiness.
ipchains -N inet_in

# Accept anything on loopback interfaces.
ipchains -A input -i lo -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A input -i dummy0 -j ACCEPT

# Check input traffic on PPP links.
ipchains -A input -i ppp+ -j inet_in

# Accept and log ident lookup connections.
ipchains -A inet_in -d 0.0.0.0/0 133:113 -p TCP -j ACCEPT -l -y

# Only accept other TCP connections on ports FTP uses (and _not_ X).
ipchains -A inet_in -d 0.0.0.0/0 ! 1024:4999 -p TCP -j REJECT -l -y

# Accept NTP traffic with truechimer.waikato.ac.nz.
ipchains -A inet_in -s 130.217.76.16 123 -d 0.0.0.0/0 123 -p UDP -j ACCEPT

# Only accept other UDP traffic on non-privileged ports.
ipchains -A inet_in -d 0.0.0.0/0 0:1023 -p UDP -j REJECT -l

# Accept other traffic (including ICMP and existing TCP connections).
ipchains -A inet_in -j ACCEPT
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PostgreSQL error ...

1999-01-09 Thread Nuno Carvalho
Hi,

   I'm trying to run psql but without success! :(

  I get the following message:

-- cut here 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin$ psql
Connection to database 'template1' failed.
FATAL 1:  SetUserId: user nemanuel is not in pg_shadow
-- cut here 

  What should I do !?
   Should I add nemanuel user to pg_shadow !? How can I do it ?

 Doing: postgres template1 works fine.

 Thanks in advance.

  Best regards,
 Nuno Carvalho

¨¨
   Nuno Emanuel F. Carvalho
 Dep. Informatics Engineering
University of Coimbra

  PGP key available at finger
¨¨



Re: [Fwd: Installing debian with Win98]

1999-01-09 Thread Carey Evans
Gary Singleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 OK, so what I did is modify Rob @ slashdot's excellent 'Linux - Don't
 Fear the Penguins.' artwork (http://slashdot.org/linux/index.shtml) 
 resized/converted it to a 400x320x256 bitmap named logo.bmp.  I posted
 it at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2361/logo.bmp if
 anybody wants to try it.

Unfortunately that's the wrong size.  :(  MS went for a 320 wide by
400 high logo, with rectangular pixels.

Also, Geocities transmits .bmp files as text/plain, so Netscape tries
to display them.

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  He could see the way in, but the other end appeared to be sealed.


Re: mailtools filter

1999-01-09 Thread BitchX IRC for Linux




Re: Network Installation Problem

1999-01-09 Thread Tom Champion




Thank you for all the support that I have 
received.

I found the following commands 
worked.

insmod 8390
insmod ne io=0x340
sh 
/etc/init.d/network

Tom.




Trouble compiling C-Kermit

1999-01-09 Thread Blair Kelly
I am trying to compile C-Kermit (6.0.192) for Debian 2.0.34
and have run into a problem.

I have made the obvious changes from curses to ncurses and
also removed the makefile reference to termcap.  Now I get:

: Making C-Kermit 6.0.192 for Linux...
: make[1]: Entering directory `/root/kermit/orig/src'
: gcc -O -DPOSIX -DDYNAMIC -DCK_CURSES -DCK_POSIX_SIG
:   -DBIGBUFOK -DTCPSOCKET -DLINUXFSSTND
:   -c ckutio.c -o ckutio.o
: In file included from /usr/include/linux/vfs.h:4,
:  from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:14,
:  from ckutio.c:668:
: /usr/include/asm/statfs.h:20: parse error before `__kernel_fsid_t'
: /usr/include/asm/statfs.h:20: warning: no semicolon at end of struct
or union
: /usr/include/asm/statfs.h:23: parse error before `}'
: In file included from /usr/include/linux/net.h:23,
:  from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:15,
:  from ckutio.c:668:
: /usr/include/linux/socket.h:9: redefinition of `struct sockaddr'
: /usr/include/linux/socket.h:14: redefinition of `struct linger'
: /usr/include/linux/socket.h:26: redefinition of `struct msghdr'
: ckutio.c: In function `ttsspd':
: ckutio.c:4679: `TIOCGSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
: ckutio.c:4679: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
: ckutio.c:4679: for each function it appears in.)
: ckutio.c:4685: `TIOCSSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
: ckutio.c: In function `ttgspd':
: ckutio.c:4833: `TIOCGSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
: ckutio.c: In function `in_chk':
: ckutio.c:6092: warning: passing arg 3 of `select' from incompatible
pointer type
: ckutio.c:6092: warning: passing arg 4 of `select' from incompatible
pointer type
: make[1]: *** [ckutio.o] Error 1
: make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/kermit/orig/src'
: make: *** [linux] Error 2

Does anyone recognize any of this and have any suggestions?

Blair



Re: PostgreSQL error ...

1999-01-09 Thread Wayne Cuddy
This is discussed in the Postgresql documentation.  If you have problems you
are likely to get a better answer from the postgresql mailling list.

You need to add 'nemanuel' to the Postgresql system.  I think the command is
createuser or something similar.



On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Nuno Carvalho wrote:

 Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 14:54:49 +
 From: Nuno Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: PostgreSQL error ...
 Resent-Date: 9 Jan 1999 14:55:41 -
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;
 
 Hi,
 
I'm trying to run psql but without success! :(
 
   I get the following message:
 
 -- cut here 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin$ psql
 Connection to database 'template1' failed.
 FATAL 1:  SetUserId: user nemanuel is not in pg_shadow
 -- cut here 
 
   What should I do !?
Should I add nemanuel user to pg_shadow !? How can I do it ?
 
  Doing: postgres template1 works fine.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
   Best regards,
  Nuno Carvalho
 
 ¨¨
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  Dep. Informatics Engineering
 University of Coimbra
 
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Re: kernel 2.2 and modutils

1999-01-09 Thread Gregory T. Norris
The two options I used to get around it...

1) cd /lib/modules ; mv 2.0.0 2.2.0-pre6 ; depmod -a

 or

2) upgrade kernel-package to the version in potato, which will create
   the module-directory under the correct name

On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 05:52:48PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 There must be a trick to this.
 
 I just installed kernel 2.2.0-pre6. modutils doesn't insert anything;
 depmod -a says
 
 [5:50pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# depmod -a
 can't open /lib/modules/2.2.0-pre6/modules.dep
 
 which is because the modules are in /lib/modules/2.2.0 instead.


CD-sound problem

1999-01-09 Thread Lazar Fleysher
Hi Everyone,

I have recompiled the kernel to support sound and all sound applications,
which I tryed (midi-, wav-, au- players, xmix), work except CD. No sound
at all.

I aslo have noticed that if I boot win95 and then linux without powering
off the computer, the xmix does not work, but CD works. Thus, I conclude
that I made a mistake in setting up the sound card parameters or something
similar.

Any suggestions what I should check?


Thank you,


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Modprobe

1999-01-09 Thread Nidge Jones

This has maybe been asked before, so excuse my ignorance, not been paying
attention. (Too busy upgrading to 2.0).

Anyway, since upgrading my 1.3.1 machines to 2.0, I now see this error when
running 'depmod -a'

modprobe: ELF file not a relocatable object

Can some kind sole point me in the right direction to what this is about,
why, and how to mend !

Thanks in advance.

-- 
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Re: Xfree86 3.3.3 for next Debian release or sooner?

1999-01-09 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Chris R. Martin wrote:

 Just wondering if XFree86 3.3.3 is being considered for the next release
 (2.2) or not... I would really like to have XF86 3.3.3 since it contains an
 X-server for the Riva TNT chipset. 

Yes, as soon as Branden is done with the X in frozen(slink), he will start
working on 3.3.3 for unstable(potato).

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: ddd problem

1999-01-09 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 12:50:11 +0100, Waldemar Kocjan wrote:
 Using Debian 1.3

Debian 1.3 is quite old. Please consider upgrading to a more recent version
(2.0 or frozen). Recent versions of Debian contain newer versions of DDD
and LessTif, which are a lot more usable than the one in 1.3.

. When I try to do anything with ddd then I get error msg Can not perform
malloc and ddd exits, even if there should be enough memory. Whats the
problem ?

It might be a library problem. In any case, it doesn't ring a bell with me.

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Re: slink PPP hangup problem

1999-01-09 Thread Nikhil
Hi

I don't understand at all what you are trying to say. I was connected to
the internet. And then when i kill -INT pid of ppp I get the error that
the hangup chatscript failed

But the connection is terminated...


On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, shaul wrote:

 Isn't the failing of chat (2nd line of in your messages) means that you were 
 connected at all ?
 
  Hello All
  
  I have been using Debian Slink Linux for a while now, but I have a problem
  hanging up (terminating) a PPP connection.
  
  I have the latest version of PPPD installed, I have edited the chatscripts
  ect... to dial the interent, and i use pon to logon to the internet.
  
  But when it comes time to log off the internet I do have a problem. The
  problem is that when I run /usr/bin/poff. The program does not 'terminate'
  thet PPP connection properly. The connection is terminated but in
  /var/log/syslog I get the following messages:
  
  Jan  6 07:01:49 indolent pppd[296]: Terminating on signal 2.
  Jan  6 07:02:34 indolent chat[851]: Failed
  Jan  6 07:02:34 indolent pppd[296]: disconnect script failed
  Jan  6 07:02:35 indolent pppd[296]: Exit.  
  
  I have no clue how to fix this problem. I know that poff does work on this
  other debian box that I have, and it hangs up instantly off the internet.
  When I use poff of this machine I can't get off the intenret instantly it
  takes a few minutes then puts some errors out to syslog (shown above), I
  was just wondering if anyone has nay idea how to fix this. Or what kind of
  problem this is... And once in a long while sometimes the modem won't
  hangup when i execute /usr/bin/poff and I am forced to reboot the box.
  Does anyone have any idea what the problem could be?
  
  
  Thanks in advance,
  Nikhil
  
  
  
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Re: [Fwd: Installing debian with Win98]

1999-01-09 Thread Gary Singleton
I think I got it right this time :-).  I converted the image to the
right size / color depth and went ahead with naming it logo.sys.  It
is a link at http://www.cyberhighway.net/~gsinglet/.  You can
shift+click on it in Netscape Linux and it will download; I have to
assume '9x Netscape or Exploiter would also work.  I also loaded an
old (original) copy of '95 and it worked on it.  There is a thumbnail
image so you can kind of see what it looks like.  LMK if this doesn't
work this time.

Regards,
Gary Singleton

---Carey Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary Singleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  OK, so what I did is modify Rob @ slashdot's excellent 'Linux -
Don't
  Fear the Penguins.' artwork
(http://slashdot.org/linux/index.shtml) 
  resized/converted it to a 400x320x256 bitmap named logo.bmp.  I
posted
  it at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2361/logo.bmp if
  anybody wants to try it.
 
 Unfortunately that's the wrong size.  :(  MS went for a 320 wide by
 400 high logo, with rectangular pixels.
 
 Also, Geocities transmits .bmp files as text/plain, so Netscape tries
 to display them.
 
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   He could see the way in, but the other end appeared to be sealed.
 

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DPI

1999-01-09 Thread Stefan Baums
Hi,

I just read your dpi request on the Debian
mailing list archives. In case you don't have an
answer yet: I change my X dpi setting with the
command-line option -dpi (startx -dpi 96); if
you have learned of any more elegant way to do
this, please tell me.

Another thing seems to be the default resolution
for which xfs serves fonts. You set this in
/etc/X11/xfs/config (the factory setting in my
case was 75 and 100 dpi). See man xfs. If you
set the more general X resolution with -dpi, I
do not think that the xfs setting has much further
effect.

Regards,
Stefan


Re: Xfree86 3.3.3 for next Debian release or sooner?

1999-01-09 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

  Just wondering if XFree86 3.3.3 is being considered for the next release
  (2.2) or not... I would really like to have XF86 3.3.3 since it contains an
  X-server for the Riva TNT chipset. 

 Yes, as soon as Branden is done with the X in frozen(slink), he will start
 working on 3.3.3 for unstable(potato).


In the meantime, you can drop the binaries of the server into place in
a 3.3.2 installation.  I just dropped the SVGA_Server file onto my
desktop, hoping it will stop the crashes on my screwball card (they
only happen on some realvideo feeds, but the trial is coming up.)

So far, it's working, but i'll need to wait for a heavily loaded
server to see if it solves the problem.  And it didn't solve the
artifacts in 16bpp, but they might be better now . . .





















Re: version control systems

1999-01-09 Thread Mike Touloumtzis
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 03:59:07PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 09:22:26AM -0800, Mike Touloumtzis wrote:
 
  I use Perforce at work and have been happy both with its quality and
  with the responsiveness of Perforce support.  Their software has run on
  Linux for quite a while now, which is a nice positive.
 
 The Windows client looks a bit average. The mechanism doesn't APPEAR
 to cope with a development environment like Delphi, where you move between
 files all the time. It wants to load your editor for a file, then close it
 and open it again on the next.
 

The GUI client is for wimps ;-)  Most people here don't need it and
don't feel a strong need for it; the command line client is pretty
full-featured.

But it may not be what you need.  We chose it because it handles branching
extremely well; if you don't expect to be in a situation in which the code
will frequently be branched into sub-projects/working snapshots/etc.,
its advantages over CVS start to decline.

miket


Holy Wars..to be fought in Indian ISP soil.

1999-01-09 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Hello friends:  Let me draw your attention to a discussion going on in the
board of Rediffusion on the Net,  an on-line daily from India.

http://www.rediff.com/computer/1999/jan/08dgos25.htm

Kindly follow this link and post your comments fast.  Comments from persons
who have had real exposure from an ISP angle is  required urgently.

Post your message NOW.


ragOO, VU2RGU

Keeping the Air-Waves   FREEAmateur Radio
Keeping the WWW  FREEDebian GNU/Linux


Re: Any good Debian books?

1999-01-09 Thread David B. Teague

On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am searching for a good Debian Linux book. 

Since I have no connection to either Linux Press nor to Dale Sheetz, I
will give a plug for a book I have found to be very useful. 

Dale Sheetz is one of the Debian Developers.  He has written The Debian
Linux User's Guide, billed as the Official Debian GNU/Linuxbook. The
2nd edition, for Debian 2.0, is published by the Linux Press, ISBN
0-9659575-0-0.  It is very clear. 

The price is still about $38 US, and include 3 CD, 2.0 binary, source, and
extras.  For details see http://www.linuxpress.com. 

If anyone knows of any other Debian Linux books, I'd like to hear from
you. 

--David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux: Because I want to be there TODAY! Besides, reboots are
  for hardware and kernel upgrades.





Re: make-kpkg terminated before completion

1999-01-09 Thread Charles Kaufman
Manoj:

On 9 Jan 1999, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 
   Well, the detailed manual is in /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz,
  where I think it does indicate that only the kernel_image target is
  required 
 
Point well taken. I should have found it. Thanks for being so gentle.

On the other hand

Let's see...
man
info
FAQ?
/usr/doc (in disguise as kernel-something, not under its real name)
... who knows where else?

Anyway I'm sure you get the idea. Persistence required.

In the FILES part of the man page you do mention the Problems.gz file-
why not mention the the README, too?

All of which takes away nothing from how nice a package it is.
Thanks again.
chuck


Re: PostgreSQL error ...

1999-01-09 Thread Peter Berlau
Hi Nuno,
You must do some steps of configuration before psql You can
psql.

(sorry sitting on front of wintendo, so I can have a look to the
environment, but I'm sure You easilly will  find the rigth settings on Your
system, )
1. Einvironment-Variables-Settings:
Environment-Variables, e.g. (changes will be need to settings for Your
system here)
PGHOME   /var/lib/pgsql
PGDATA /var/lib/pgsql/data
PGLIB/usr/lib/pgsql/lib
PGPATH/usr/bin
2. login as user postgres

start:
postgres$ createuser nemanuel
Enter user's postgres ID or RETURN to use unix user ID:  600 -
Is user nemanuel allowed to create databases(y/n)   y
Is user nemanuel allowed to add users (y/n) y
createuser: nemanuel was succesfully added
postgres $

after the above changings in dependencies of Your system
You will be able to run psql


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Nuno Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Datum: Samstag, 9. Januar 1999 15:58
Betreff: PostgreSQL error ...


Hi,

   I'm trying to run psql but without success! :(

  I get the following message:

-- cut here 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin$ psql
Connection to database 'template1' failed.
FATAL 1:  SetUserId: user nemanuel is not in pg_shadow
-- cut here 

  What should I do !?
   Should I add nemanuel user to pg_shadow !? How can I do it ?

 Doing: postgres template1 works fine.

cYa
Peter



smail setup details

1999-01-09 Thread Kevin McEnhill


pgpQNxEqgIAKD.pgp
Description: PGP message


Re: Samba and NT Wkstn?

1999-01-09 Thread wb2oyc
Leo,

Well then, I guess wishing you good luck is all I can do!

OK, and I understand.  I was hoping I could get an answer here, but
I guess I have to try Samba's site because no one here seems to have
any idea.  Its crazy, 'cause everything I've read about it suggests 
that NT 3.51 Wkstn should just flat out work!  In this case, machines
running WfW, Win95 or NT 4.0 all work just fine, but NOT 3.51!  And,
the doc's just seem to say it should not be an issuebut it is!
On three different versions of Samba, it refuses to connect to a 
resource, all giving the same Access is Denied error box.

Actually, the 3.51 is installed on my laptop along with  Linux
and WfW.  The WfW works fine, no problem, but not the NT 3.51.  It
does everything just fine except map a drive from Samba.  Oh well...
Interesting that NT 4.0 (non-SP3) has no trouble either...

If you have time, when you solve it I'd like to hear what went awry.

Sure will let you know.  Thanks for your help.

Paul


how to umount /floppy with superblock error?

1999-01-09 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi, everybody --

I wanted to reuse the OS/2 warp floppies I had hanging around. I wanted to make 
them ext2 filesystem, so issued the command (with the floppy in /dev/fd0, but 
_not_ mounted):
mke2fs /dev/fd0

The drive light was on for a while and I got the info about formatting; and
the prompt returned. Then I wanted to mount it and used:
mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy

where I got the message about can't read superblock ( I know this is not a
good thing). Then I tried to umount it, thinking I'll just toss the floppy.
But issueing:
umount /floppy gives me: umount: /floppy: can't write superblock

and my /var/log/messages shows:
Jan  9 12:23:29 cmt kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x13) failed 
Jan  9 12:23:30 cmt kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 19

Doing a df:
df: /floppy/: Input/output error

Could someone tell me or point me to the place on the Net where I can read
up on it how to get my /floppy back? Is it possible to fix this?

TIA,
damir


Re: XDM

1999-01-09 Thread Alain Toussaint
 Assuming that you have hamm installed.  It's not the case in slink.
 Sasha.

it's not xfree86,it's a commercial one (doesn't remember it though).

Alain T.



Exim

1999-01-09 Thread Andrew Ivanov
Hi. 
I'm trying to setup a mail agent on my computer, so I can mail using exim
to remote domains. The question is : how do I specify my smtp server?
Thank you,
 Andrew


Re: slink PPP hangup problem

1999-01-09 Thread john
Nikhil writes:
 I don't understand at all what you are trying to say. I was connected to
 the internet. And then when i kill -INT pid of ppp I get the error that
 the hangup chatscript failed

Not the hangup chatscript: there is no such thing.  What is failing is your
'disconnect' script.  Somewhere you must be passing pppd the 'disconnect'
option, with an argument like chat blah blah  The command in the
argument gets run after pppd has terminated the link, and in this instance
is garbled.

 When I use poff of this machine I can't get off the intenret instantly it
 takes a few minutes then puts some errors out to syslog (shown above), I
 was just wondering if anyone has nay idea how to fix this. Or what kind
 of problem this is... And once in a long while sometimes the modem won't
 hangup when i execute /usr/bin/poff and I am forced to reboot the box.

Sounds like the modem is either not responding to the hardware modem
control signals or they are for some reason not being sent.  Check the
modem configuration, and make sure that pppd is getting the 'modem' and
'crtscts' options.  If that doesn't work fix the disconnect script so that
it sends 'ATH' to the modem.  This disconnect line in
/etc/ppp/peers/provider will do so:

disconnect /usr/sbin/chat \'\' ATH
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Ricoh MP6201S Buslogic Flashpoint anyone using this ?

1999-01-09 Thread Dave Restall - System Administrator
Hi,

From the subject, you will get a good idea of my message :-)

I bought a Buslogic Flashpoint controller a while ago and then a Ricoh
MP6201S CD/RW drive.

The two never worked very well together, though when I was using them
under Debian 1.3 they did what I wanted them to do.  They wouldn't work
with anything but mkisofs and cdrecord and as I didn't want to make
music CD's this was fine.  I upgraded to Debian 2.0 a few months ago and
backed up my drives etc before doing so to CDROM.  Since the upgrade, I
have been unable to write to the CDROM.

I have applied patches from the manufacturer to the PROM on both the
SCSI card and the CDROM, I have also tried using Kernel 2.0.36 and I
still can't write CD's.  I can read them fine.

I realise the Flashpoint controller support is flaky under Linux but I
did have the system working.  I now can't write anything to the drive.

It may be a processor/speed problem.  I've been in touch with the
developer of cdrecord and also with the unofficial Ricoh site but have
not had any success there.  I've been through all the settings in my BIOS
and in the SCSI card bios and can't see anything that would cause the
problems.  In short it all looks fine (+ it did partially work before).

What I'm trying to find out is if there is anybody on the list using the
same combination of HW and if they had any success.  To summarise :-

SCSI Controller : Buslogic Flashpoint
SCSI CD/RW  : Ricoh MP6201S
Processor   : AMD K5 running at 90MHz.

Regards,


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Re: make-kpkg terminated before completion

1999-01-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
Charles == Charles Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Charles Anyway I'm sure you get the idea. Persistence required.

 Charles In the FILES part of the man page you do mention the Problems.gz file-
 Charles why not mention the the README, too?

I have done so in my local sources; it shall be in the next
 upload. 

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Re: make-kpkg terminated before completion

1999-01-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
Charles == Charles Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Charles Anyway I'm sure you get the idea. Persistence required.

 Charles In the FILES part of the man page you do mention the Problems.gz file-
 Charles why not mention the the README, too?

Hmmm. Sorry to follow up my last posting so quickly, but I did
 notice that the man page mentions /usr/doc/kernel-package in the see
 also section.

As I said, I have now included a reference in the files
 section as well.

manoj

MAKE-KPKG(8) Debian GNU/Linux manual MAKE-KPKG(8)

SEE ALSO
   kernel-pkg.conf(5), dpkg-deb(1), dpkg-source(1),  make(1),
   The Programmers manual,   The GNU Make manual,   and   the
   extensive documentation on the directory  /usr/doc/kernel-
   package

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printing to a win95 shared printer *sigh*

1999-01-09 Thread Richard A Nelson

Has anyone setup lprng to print to a win95 shared printer?
The printer in question is a HP DeskJet 870.

I've been printing to the printer locally, but had to move the printer
to a box that runs mostly lose 95.

Thanks,
-- 
Rick Nelson


HP 4000 N

1999-01-09 Thread Matt Kopishke
I am trying to set up printing on a Linux box (Slink) running lpr.  The
printer is on a network, and has an IP address, how do I set this up?  I
tried using the default network setup in the printcap that magicfilter
make and pluging in the IP, but it does not work,
Thanks, 

-Matt-

BTW: I also need to have WordPerfect print, and from what I can see it
uses it's own priter setup, how would I set this up?

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fvwm95 menus

1999-01-09 Thread Matt Kopishke
What's the simplest way to completly over ride the menus the are used by
default under fvwm95, for certen users (probly using ~/.fvwm95 and
hook files?).  I need a simple menu (to apps, Netscape  Wordperfect) for
our xterinals, the default debian-menu is confusing, and give them access
to too many Apps.
Thanks, 

-Matt-


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Re: HP 4000 N

1999-01-09 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Matt Kopishke wrote:

 I am trying to set up printing on a Linux box (Slink) running lpr.  The
 printer is on a network, and has an IP address, how do I set this up?  I
 tried using the default network setup in the printcap that magicfilter
 make and pluging in the IP, but it does not work,
 Thanks, 

I use lprng not lpr,

hplj4000n:HP Laserjet 4000 N:\
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hplj4000n:\
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/ps-hplj-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

 BTW: I also need to have WordPerfect print, and from what I can see it
 uses it's own priter setup, how would I set this up?

Tell it that it is a postscript printer and then make it feed into lpr.

Jason


Re: Chat scrpit trouble

1999-01-09 Thread Stephan Engelke
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 09:35:34PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
 And the under-20 crowd says, What's a turntable?  :)

Gee, I am getting old - I still USE one of those things once in a while :-)
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Re: Why not as a newsgroup?

1999-01-09 Thread Thomas Adams
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 01:09:59AM -0800, Martin Waller wrote:

 I for one would no longer to be able to get the list.  I access the 
 internet through a firewall.  The policy is restricted viewing only of 
 some newsnet news groups.
 
 There is no way to either connect to a different news server nor post to 
 usenet.
 
 So the newsgroup way would be impossible for me to access.

O, pity you... Can't afford a private ISP? Come on, this is the most 
ridiculous argument I've ever read. If your employer's net access doesn't work 
properly, get a real ISP account for home.


smail: mail lossage

1999-01-09 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Debian 2.0/i386, smail 3.2.0.101-4.5.

I'm seeing mail lossage here.

What happens is that messages to alias addresses--aliases which have
existed for months and which are perfectly fine and deliverable--are
bounced with ERR100 (unknown user).

Usually I get my mail through rsmtp and I haven't noticed this lossage
before. There are no cases of it in a week's worth of mail logs. Due to
a server outage I'm receiving mail directly by SMTP today. So far about
15 messages out of 500 have been bounced for no good reason. The
aliases concerned *are* valid. These very aliases *have* received mail
earlier and later on today. However, *some* messages are bounced with
unknown user for no discernable reason.

This is getting serious.

Has anybody observed anything similar?
Is there a newer smail package I should upgrade to?

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Re: Disk maintenance

1999-01-09 Thread Christian Lavoie
 On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 01:32:02PM +, Christian Lavoie wrote:
  What is the best way to defrag/scan disks?
 
  Mounted disks can't be defragged, and you can't umount the root
  partition, can you?

 I don't know how to defrag a disk (you rarely need to anyway), but the
 following would work, for checking as well.

 Either boot up the system in `single' or `emergency' mode
 (at the LILO prompt, linux single or linux emergency). emergency
 in particular will mount the root read-only and enter single user 
mode.

 (I think single will mount all file systems read-write, and still 
enter
 single user mode.)

 Or you can shutdown the running system to single user mode;
 shutdown -h now will get you to single user mode. Then unmount 
partitions,
 and remount the root read only with

 mount -o remount,ro -n /

 To get the system back to multiuser, you can either reboot, or remount
 everything read/write and exit the single user shell. (I think the 
system
 goes back to multiuser in this situation). If you forget to remount as 
read
 write, it'll enter multiuser mode with the disk read/only, and you 
won't
 like that.

Hmmm...

I've got a single ext2fs partition, so it is the root partition. 
That's the one I need to defrag/scan, so even having it mounted as 
read only won't help. (At least for the defrag)

So as far as I can tell I need either: 
- A win95/dos based tool to defragment a linux partition (yeah right)
- A floppy (or CD-ROM) based dist that won't access my HD at all. (And 
has the adequate tools)
- Another computer with linux installed. (Forget it)
- A way to boot without any root partition.

But then, how does UNIX administrator were dealing with such issues? 
How can one scan and/or defrag a ext2fs?





named/BIND 8.1.2-5 won't accept inbound zone xfers

1999-01-09 Thread Ian Eure
I'm having a really nasty time getting my BIND zone slave to update from the
zone master. the slave keeps saying:
---
Jan  9 13:24:21 Phaktory named[145]: Zone zone.domain (class 1) SOA serial# 
(10719991) rcvd from [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] is  ours (121219981)
--- (names/ips changed to protect he innocent)
but it never gets updated. Anyways, here is the relevant part of my named.conf
on the slave ns:
---
zone zone.domain {
type slave;
file zone.domain/zone.hosts;
allow-query { any; };
allow-update { none; };
allow-transfer { localservers; };
masters { xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx; };
};
---
and the master:
---
zone zone.domain {
type master;
allow-query { any; };
allow-update { none; };
allow-transfer { localservers; };
file zone.domain/zone.hosts;
};
---
localservers is an acl with the ips of both nameservers:
---
acl localservers {
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx;
yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy;
};
---
So, can anyone suggest what's wrong here?

Thanks in advance

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RE: fvwm95 menus

1999-01-09 Thread Shaleh
Matt, go to /usr/doc/menu and it will explain how to make your own menu entries.

On 09-Jan-99 Matt Kopishke wrote:
 What's the simplest way to completly over ride the menus the are used by
 default under fvwm95, for certen users (probly using ~/.fvwm95 and
 hook files?).  I need a simple menu (to apps, Netscape  Wordperfect) for
 our xterinals, the default debian-menu is confusing, and give them access
 to too many Apps.
 Thanks, 


RE: printing to a win95 shared printer *sigh*

1999-01-09 Thread Shaleh

On 09-Jan-99 Richard A Nelson wrote:
 
 Has anyone setup lprng to print to a win95 shared printer?
 The printer in question is a HP DeskJet 870.
 
 I've been printing to the printer locally, but had to move the printer
 to a box that runs mostly lose 95.
 

I am under the impression that this is one of the uses of Samba.


help wanted for kernel install

1999-01-09 Thread jpjevans
Hi, folks

I want to update my kernel (2.0.34) to 2.0.36. I've already
upgraded the rest of my system slink, so today I used apt-get to
install the new kernel-source.

When I switched to the /usr/src/linux directory, I found it was
still pointing to kernel-source-2.0.34. I also found that the
2.0.36 stuff had not been unpacked. It still existed as a
.tar.gz file, so I used gzip and tar to unroll it. Now I have a
kernel-source-2.0.36 directory but /usr/src/linux was still
pointing to 2.0.34. I rm'd the linux* links and created one
pointing to 2.0.36. My /usr/src now looks like this:

debian:/usr/src# l
total 29991
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 1024 Oct 13 13:54 kernel-headers-2.0.32
drwxr-xr-x  16 root root 1024 Jan  9 14:11 kernel-source-2.0.34
drwxr-xr-x  15 root root 1024 Jan  9 14:12 kernel-source-2.0.36
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 30586880 Nov 27 23:58 kernel-source-2.0.36.tar
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root src20 Jan  9 14:23 linux - 
kernel-source-2.0.36

Ok, now I cd to linux and I'm in 2.0.36. This seems right to me,
 but I must still missing something, because make menuconfig
 produces the following errors:

 debian:/usr/src/linux# make menuconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts/lxdialog all
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
gcc -O2 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE  -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c 
lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2

So, what's happing? Why didn't apt-get install unroll everything
and set it up properly? Have I got myself hopelessly screwed up?
And, how can I get things set up so that I may get on with this?

TIA!!  :-)

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Re: Why not as a newsgroup?

1999-01-09 Thread Mike Touloumtzis
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 08:12:40PM +0100, Thomas Adams wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 01:09:59AM -0800, Martin Waller wrote:
 
  I for one would no longer to be able to get the list.  I access the 
  internet through a firewall.  The policy is restricted viewing only of 
  some newsnet news groups.
  
  There is no way to either connect to a different news server nor post to 
  usenet.
  
  So the newsgroup way would be impossible for me to access.
 
 O, pity you... Can't afford a private ISP? Come on, this is the
 most ridiculous argument I've ever read. If your employer's net access
 doesn't work properly, get a real ISP account for home.


Whether or not you choose to acknowledge it, the firewall issue is
a real one for many people (myself included).

miket


Re: help wanted for kernel install

1999-01-09 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq


On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Ok, now I cd to linux and I'm in 2.0.36. This seems right to me,
but I must still missing something, because make menuconfig
produces the following errors:
 
debian:/usr/src/linux# make menuconfig
 rm -f include/asm
 ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
 make -C scripts/lxdialog all
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
 gcc -O2 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE  -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c 
 lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
 In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
 make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
 make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2

You need to install the curses3.4-dev package.

-- 
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Re: fvwm95 menus

1999-01-09 Thread Mike Touloumtzis

If you want to completely override the default values, just copy the
default configuration file in full to the user's directory (as .fvwm95rc
or whatever it uses) and edit it to remove the Read statements (for
the hooks) and to change the menus to just the apps you want.

miket

On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 04:15:38PM -0500, Matt Kopishke wrote:

 What's the simplest way to completly over ride the menus the are used by
 default under fvwm95, for certen users (probly using ~/.fvwm95 and
 hook files?).  I need a simple menu (to apps, Netscape  Wordperfect) for
 our xterinals, the default debian-menu is confusing, and give them access
 to too many Apps.
 Thanks, 
 
   -Matt-



'time' protocol client/server for Debian?

1999-01-09 Thread Chris R. Martin
Does anyone know of a simple time protocol client/server pair for
Debian/Linux? I am refering to RFC868, not NTP.  It would be simple enough
to write, but if someone has already done the work...

thanks,
Chris


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