RE: Debian
-Mensaje original- De: Emilio de Miguel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: miércoles, 13 de enero de 1999 06:32 a.m. Asunto: Re: Debian Aunque con retraso (problemas con el modem) ahí va mi granito de arena. Andres Hirane escribió: ¿ Puedo tener linux y windows 98 en un mismo HD (disco duro)? ¿Como? Claro que puedes tener ambos. Eso si, el disco ha de ser algo grande para que te quepan los dos: A partir de 2G para una cierta comodidad. Tienes que mirar si tienes espacio libre suficiente en el disco: 1 Gb para una cierta comodidad, pero si tienes mucho disco y quieres meterte la Debian puedes dedicarle 2 o mas. No te asustes si te parece mucho, el linux mas sencillo cabe en un disquette, y con X muy basicas lo tienes en dos disquettes. Una vez decidido y conseguido el espacio, desde el win corres defrag con la opcion desfragmentacion plena. Despues sales al DOS (No creo que valga una simple ventana de DOS) y No vale una ventana DOS bajo windows. Ni siquiera lo intentes, en el mejor de los casos tendrías que reinstalar WINDOWS, en el peor tendrías que reformatear el disco duro a bajo nivel, es decir, lo perderías todo, todo, todito, todo.. buscas por el CD de linux una aplicacion que se llama FIPS.EXE, esta es la que te recortara la particion de windows dejandole sitio al linux. Te creara una particion para linux, si no vas a usar swap, deja esa, sino, borrala y durante la instalacion creas las particiones precisas. En cuanto al programa de particiones (si todavía no te has metido con ello) te recomiendo uno más compatible con DOS-WINDOWS y que te permita instalar un gestor de arranque. Yo utilicé PARTITION MAGIC de POWERQUEST que es muy intuitivo y fácil de usar tanto desde DOS como desde WINDOWS, pero es un programa comercial (hay que apoquinar), aunque creo que tiene una versión shareware. Para instalarlo te sera de gran ayuda conocer un poco el hard de tu maquina, y que tengas predisposicion a leer. Muy cierto. acostúmbrate a leer toda la documentación que puedas encontrar, no te limites a preguntar, así no sólo se aprende algo sino que además te evitas problemas tontos. Esta regla es general, vale para cualquier cualquier cosa que vayas a poner en el ordenador, tanto soft como hard. Ante la duda, tira de manual. A partir de aqui, comienza realmente el proceso de instalacion: -Arrancando un fichero bat que suele venir en el cd (se llama install.bat normalmente) -Haciendo que la maquina arranque desde el cd (tienes que tocar las opciones de la bios y solo las placas modernas te lo permiten). Yo tuve un problema en este modo, la Debian 2.0 no montaba el CD para pillar los drivers en medio de la instalacion. -Creando los discos rescue y drivers con la utilidad rawrite.exe (mira la documentacion para la sintaxis) La instalacion en si no suele ser demasiado compleja. Si montas la Debian lo peor es el paso del dselect: suele ser muy tedioso. De todas formas, si tienes problemas vuelve a escribir. A mi me gustaria tener linux, pero tengo un problema. Mi familia usa windows y no me dejarian borrarlo. Una vez instalado, configuras el lilo para que por defecto arranque el windogs y nadie se te va a quejar. Si instalas un gestor de arranque puedes elegir el sistema operativo al encender el ordenador. Para ello, cuando el programa de instalación de DEBIAN te pregunte si quieres arrancarlo como principal le dices NO. El propio programa de instalación se encarga de instalar en el gestor de arranque la opcion DEBIAN. La opción WINDOWS del gestor se la tienes que dar cuando lo instalas. Tengo 14 años y no entiendo mucho sobre esto. No te preocupes, la edad lo cura todo. Lo unico que se es que quiero tener linux, porque windows me tiene aburrido con sus fallas. A mi me tenia aburrido ;) A mi me sigue aburriendo: 6 reinstalaciones en 3 semanas (MIERDOWS 98). Antonio A. Rivas
Instalación de Linux
Me ocurre que quiero instalar diversas aplicaciones, configurar y compilar el Kernel y me dice que no encuentra el gcc, el cc ni el make. He instalado el debian con diskettes creo que es la versión 2.0.34. Espero que me entendáis pues soy nuevo en esto del Linux. De momento me parece bueno. Pepe.
Re: Instalación de Linux
El Sun, Jan 17, 1999, José Valcarce Alonso... Me ocurre que quiero instalar diversas aplicaciones, configurar y compilar el Kernel y me dice que no encuentra el gcc, el cc ni el make. He instalado el debian con diskettes creo que es la versión 2.0.34. Para el primero, [anarres]~# dpkg -l gcc* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==-== ii gcc 2.7.2.3-4.8The GNU C compiler. Para el tercero [anarres]~# dpkg -l make* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==-== ii make3.76.1-8 The GNU version of the make utility. y `cc' es un enlace simbólico a `gcc', solo necesitas instalar este. A ver si es sufuciente, ;-) Saludos. -- Cosme = -=-=- A través de Debian GNU/Linux -=-=- -=-=- Software Libre -=-=- -=-=- Computadora de 1992 -=-=- http://www.linux.org/ S.O. Multi-[plataforma, tarea, usuario] http://www.gnu.org/ Free Software Foundation http://LuCAS.ctv.es/ Linux Documentation Project CAStellano =
Re: Ibernet ha desaparecio !?
El Sat, Jan 16, 1999, Han Solo... [anarres]~# host diana.ibernet.es diana.ibernet.es does not exist (Authoritative answer) Lo que pasa es que han cambiado de nombre. Y por lo que parce no han avisado a nadie. Los nuevos nombres son: news.mad.ttd.net news.bcn.ttd.net Gracias, ha funcionado a la primera, :-) Saludos. -- Cosme = -=-=- A través de Debian GNU/Linux -=-=- -=-=- Software Libre -=-=- -=-=- Computadora de 1992 -=-=- http://www.linux.org/ S.O. Multi-[plataforma, tarea, usuario] http://www.gnu.org/ Free Software Foundation http://LuCAS.ctv.es/ Linux Documentation Project CAStellano =
Re: Ibernet ha desaparecio !?
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Cosme Perea Cuevas wrote: llevo dos días sin poder bajar las news. Hoy, después de recibir otro Bad Status del Suck Yo al suck lo llamo desde /etc/ppp/ip.up.d/ así que no veo errores, pero hoy no vino ningún mensaje nuevo. que algún colistero que tenga acceso desde un servidor gratuito sin problemas, pues que me lo recomiende, por si lo de Ibernet se alarga. Por lo visto han cambiado el dominio, precisamente hoy hice un tcpdump para ver un asunto y me encontré con news.mad.ttd.net (pensé que sería .ttd.es). -- Los sueños no se descubren hasta que uno despierta (Abre los ojos) David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX - Linux 2.0.34 Linux Registered User no. 87069 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc
Compilación del Kernel 2.0.36
Al hacer make depend me da el siguiente mensage: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cpp': No such file or directory y he buscado el cpp y existe, con lo que es posible que no esté bien situado.
Re: Compilación del núcleo
Hue-Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: La ventaja de este método es, a) más rápido hacer actualizaciones (make-kpkg configure; make-kpkg ... kernel_image); b) se crean paquetes que se pueden instalar y desintalar Pues yo no veo ventaja en eso. ¿Para qué vamos a andar con un oscuro dpkg cuando sabemos poner a rular un núcleo? Después de pasar por las siguientes pesadillas uno aprecia el make-kpkg: * Actualizar un kernel en un 'laboratorio' de máquinas, las cuales, por motivos obscuros, cuentan todas con configuraciones distintas * Compilarle el kernel a un compañero y tratar de explicarle como instalarlo, donde poner los módulos, que archivos cambiar, y tratar de preveer todos los miserables problemas no previsibles * Desintalar el kernel que instalé hace dos meses y que realmente había olvidado que estaba allí (el que compilé hace 20 minutos tiene 60+ archivos) ¿Qué hace el dpkg -i para instalar el núcleo? Nada muy especial, si eso es lo que quieres decir. Revisar el estado del sistema, verificar enlaces por aquí y por allá, revisar la configuración de lilo, las cosas que se supone que uno debe hacer cuando instala un kernel pero que siempre olvida al menos una. Yo creo que si supiese instalar programas a pelo, tampoco lo haría con el dpkg. Pero eso forma parte de la filosofía de cada uno. Ah... sí. Siempre es bueno saber realmente como se hacen las cosas, pero llega el punto donde uno se aburre de hacer lo mismo una y otra vez ad nauseum. Quiero decir, yo compilo todas y cada una de las versiones de Window Maker que salen, y me siento un rato a despulgarlo y hacer parches, y lo encuentro entretenido, pero si estuviese haciendo eso con todos los programas que realmente uso, no hago nada más, y realmente quiero hacer algo más... To : Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc : debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org ¿No hay alguna forma de hacer To: debian-user... en lugar de hacer un Cc:? Es que toi un poco cansadito de andar cambiándolo a mano. Uso pine 3.96. Sí, usa un programa de verdad... (perdón, perdón, perdón, no pude resistirlo, he desarrollado aversión al pine) Si no recuerdo mal, el pine tiene algún tipo de función que es 'reply-to-list' (o 'reply-to-all') o algo por el estilo. Nada más para referencia, mutt tiene tres funciones distintas: reply contestar al autor list-replycontestar a una lista de correo group-reply contestar al autor y todos los destinatarios Creo que pine hace lo primero y lo último (al menos hay una forma de decirle que pregunte si desea contestar a todos los destinatarios). Para las listas de correo yo uso generalmente lo segundo... Si no tienes problemas con leer un manual un poco gordo, mutt es una joyita. Marcelo
Re: Migrar a 2.2.0
Xose Manoel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* paquete del kernel 2.2. (fuentes o binario)
Hay un paquete del 2.1.125, con sus parches y sus cosas...
* paquetes con las utilidades necesarias para compilarlo
a ver... gcc, ld, make, bin86, libncurses{algo}-dev (si quieres usar
'make menuconfig'). Son todas cosas que ya tienes instaladas o que
están en tu CD de Debian.
* ¿Que paquetes hay que actualizar para utilizar este Kernel?
Mira: http://www.mindspring.com/~nunez/info/linux/LinuxBleed.html
netbase = 3.09-1 si quieres usar ipchains.
ppp = 2.3.5
además de que los cua* ya son definitivamente obsoletos.
Quizás sea necesario un fdutils más nuevo que el que tienes, pero yo
uso el 5.2pl4-3 y no recuerdo haberlo actualizado.
Puede ser necesario un makedev recuente (tengo 2.3.1-11 aquí) y
también la biblioteca de C, pues creo que hamm tenía libc6 2.0.7pre4,
y es recomendable tener una 2.0.7pre6 o mayor (la que está en este
momento en slink sirve)
También una versión más reciente de modutils es requerida
Los puertos paralelos son diferentes (/dev/lp1 - /dev/lp0 en la
mayoría de los casos)
necesitas un pciutils reciente
Casi todas estas cosas están en Debian 2.0, pero no sé a ciencia
cierta cuales no (la que recuerdo es ppp)
Marcelo
Re: Enmascaramiento del dominio y sendmail¿¿?¿?
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote: Hola a todos, tengo un problema con el sendmail que hasta ahora no me había dado cuenta de el. Resulta que no puedo enviar e-mails a direcciones [EMAIL PROTECTED] pues tengo enmascarado el dominio ctv.es como akela, que es el nombre de mi máquina, la cual por otra parte se conecta a Internet vía módem (no está en red local). La configuración de sendmail la realicé según indicaba el documento: fetchmail+sendmail-COMO.txt que me bajé de http://lucas.ctv.es ¿Alguien sabría cómo meterle mano a este problema?... por que yo ¡ni idea!. Gracias. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] No sé si alguien ha contestado ofreciendo una solución a este problema y se me ha pasado por alto. El caso es que yo tengo el mismo problema -no puedo enviar correos a direcciones que coinciden con el dominio enmascarado- y tampoco sé cómo solucionarlo. Javier ¿lo has resuelto? Gracias Miquel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pipes en Linux
Hola, ¿cuantas pipes se pueden abrir a la vez en C?. Gracias
Re: still fighting for normality
On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 03:27:55PM +, Rich Harran. wrote: I've been trying to get a dos partition mounted in group 'dos', with read-write permissions for those in this group. I found an old thread on this, and now have: /dev/hda1 /mnt vfat unmask=0002,gid=101,uid=0,showexec 0 2 in fstab, (where 101 is dos gid). However, the drive mounts with permissions: drwxr_xr_x This works for me: /dev/hda1 /windoze vfatdefaults,uid=1000,gid=101,umask=003 0 0 in /etc/fstab yields 19:26 $ ls -d /windoze/ drwxrwxr-- 7 alphengl windoze 16384 Dec 31 1969 /windoze/ with everybody below that having those same permissions. I think unmask may be a typo. HTH, Rob -- Crazee Edeee, his prices are INSANE!!!
Language
I have been lurking on this group. What text do I need to get to interpret what all this language means, such as: /dev/hda1 /dos vfat defaults,umask=002,uid=0,gid=35 0 0 I am a complete novice and want to install Linux, but I see I need to learn a new language before I start. TIA Sam
Re: terminal based schedule program
Ciao Pere, On Saturday 16 January 1999, alle 06:43:04 +, Pere Camps wrote: I'm looking for a telnet accesible (ie: terminal) program that will allow to set some schedules: meetings, appointments, date limits, etc. Does anybody know any package that does that? look for: calendar gcal in your linux-distribution -- Paolo Pedaletti, Como [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: still fighting for normality
Ciao Rich, On Saturday 16 January 1999, alle 15:27:55 +, Rich Harran. wrote: I found an old thread on this, and now have: /dev/hda1 /mnt vfat unmask=0002,gid=101,uid=0,showexec 0 2 in fstab, (where 101 is dos gid). However, the drive mounts with permissions: drwxr_xr_x here is my /etc/fstab: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass /dev/hda3 / ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda8 swapswapsw 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/hda5 /usrext2defaults0 2 /dev/hda6 /usr/local ext2defaults0 2 /dev/hda7 /varext2defaults0 2 /dev/cdrom /mnt/CDROM iso9660 ro,conv=auto,user,exec,noauto,async 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/C vfatrw,conv=auto,user,exec,noauto,async,umask=000 0 0 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/D vfatrw,conv=auto,user,exec,noauto,async,umask=000 0 0 /dev/hdc5 /mnt/E vfatrw,conv=auto,user,exec,noauto,async,umask=000 0 0 /dev/hdc6 /mnt/F vfatrw,conv=auto,user,exec,noauto,async,umask=000 0 0 /dev/sda4 /mnt/ZIP autorw,conv=auto,user,exec,noauto,async,umask=000 0 0 /dev/sda1 /mnt/zip autorw,conv=auto,user,exec,noauto,async,umask=000 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/A autorw,conv=auto,user,exec,noauto,async,umask=000 0 0 and when I do: /usr/local/home/paolop$ mount /D I see: /usr/local/home/paolop$ dir /D/ total 688 -rwxrwxrwx 1 paolop paolop 240398 gen 7 19:38 Image1.bmp* -rwxrwxrwx 1 paolop paolop 260114 gen 7 19:39 Image2.bmp* -rwxrwxrwx 1 paolop paolop 114554 gen 7 19:39 Image3.bmp* -rwxrwxrwx 1 paolop paolop 3888 mag 31 1998 dirfile.xcd* drwxrwxrwx 4 paolop paolop 8192 mar 14 1998 dos-dati/ drwxrwxrwx 11 paolop paolop 8192 mar 14 1998 dos-prg/ drwxrwxrwx 2 paolop paolop 8192 apr 10 1998 recycled/ -rwxrwxrwx 1 paolop paolop 34661 giu 25 1998 sd.ini* drwxrwxrwx 12 paolop paolop 8192 mar 12 1998 win-prg/ but when I am under fabiop name (my brother): niels:18:46:22:fabiop$ mount /D niels:18:47:26:fabiop$ dir /D/ total 688 -rwxrwxrwx 1 fabiop fabiop 240398 gen 7 19:38 Image1.bmp* -rwxrwxrwx 1 fabiop fabiop 260114 gen 7 19:39 Image2.bmp* -rwxrwxrwx 1 fabiop fabiop 114554 gen 7 19:39 Image3.bmp* -rwxrwxrwx 1 fabiop fabiop 3888 mag 31 1998 dirfile.xcd* drwxrwxrwx 4 fabiop fabiop 8192 mar 14 1998 dos-dati/ drwxrwxrwx 11 fabiop fabiop 8192 mar 14 1998 dos-prg/ drwxrwxrwx 2 fabiop fabiop 8192 apr 10 1998 recycled/ -rwxrwxrwx 1 fabiop fabiop 34661 giu 25 1998 sd.ini* drwxrwxrwx 12 fabiop fabiop 8192 mar 12 1998 win-prg/ before or later I will change the umask to a more secure one. But for me (and now) this works well. -- Paolo Pedaletti, Como [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RH vs Debian (Switch to Red Hat ?)
A registered company maintains legal liability. A profit making company also is insured, which makes it feasible to sue if they decide to break a contract, etc. Sean Henning Makholm wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (shaul) writes: There is the difficulty that Debian is an organization that is based on volunteers, where RH is a registered company. So managements tend to see RH as much more solid and stable organization then Debian. No doubt you are true about that, but I've never completely understood why managements think that way. A registered company can quit business, go broke, or simply decide to skip the product. A volunteer effort of individuals spread out over the internet is unstoppable as long as anyone, anywhere, thinks the product should live on. -- Henning Makholm http://www.diku.dk/students/makholm -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Xi - Xserver
On 16-Jan-99 Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, Has anyone tried out the Xi graphics video server?? Is it really much better that XF86?? Depends on the card, monitor, etc. However it does not interface nicely with the Debian X packages. Personally I would suggest supporting Xfree. Hell, send them the money you were going to give to Xi -- help fund some free development and not a business. A few months ago I had just purchased the Matrox G200, so I got the Xi graphics server. Before, through xdm, I ran three simultaneous X servers: one for my child, one for my wife, and one for me. Facing troubles figuring how to use the Xi Graphics card with xdm, I sent them email. Response: xdm is compicated and they do not support xdm. However, I did for a while enjoy Xi graphics slightly different look. I believe they gave XFree its first video driver software, so Xi Graphics gets my ear. I decided to do what would give me the most flexibility, have the most support, and what I could share with others: my Xi graphics expenditure became a sunk cost and I returned to XFree. -- Jim Burt, NJ9L, Fairfax, Virginia, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mnsinc.com/jameson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (703) 235-5213 ext. 132 (work) A poor man associating with a rich man will soon be too poor to buy even a pair of breeches. --Chinese Proverb
Re: Debian Weekly News
Shao Zhang wrote: I found this great link from LWN. But, then I went back to the debian home page, and coundn't find it... Am I missing something?? It's not linked to from the debian homepage yet, being only 3 weeks old. The url to it is http://www.debian.org/~joeyh/weeklynews/ -- see shy jo, Debian Weekly News editor
Re: Program to chart ppp through-put?
Ciao Jim, On Saturday 16 January 1999, alle 01:31:54 -0500, Jim Foltz wrote: Is there some program that can log ppp data through-put? I'd really like to see what's happening while I am downloading for extended periods, like when I upgrade Debian. I use this: /usr/sbin/pppstats -w 10 /var/log/pppstats.log and during the download do: tail -f /var/log/pppstats.log Then, later, you can plot usefull data using gnuplot. using a line like: plot /tmp/pppstats.log using 1 with linespoints, \ /tmp/pppstats.log using 7 axes x1y2 with linespoints Easy, isn't it? :-) Happy GNU Year -- Paolo Pedaletti, Como ITALYa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: terminal based schedule program
Frank, I haven't found any, but there are some good web-based programs around if you have a browser. Come to think of it, you could probably use Lynx (a text-only web browser) to access one of those. Do you recall the name of those programs / CGIs? I am very used to lynx... TIA! -- p.
Re: terminal based schedule program
Paolo, calendar gcal I've checked them, and I need more powerful programs. Thanks anyway! -- p.
Re: Language
Sam Franc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /dev/hda1 /dos vfat defaults,umask=002,uid=0,gid=35 0 0 I am a complete novice and want to install Linux, but I see I need to learn a new language before I start. The precise line you're quoting is an entry in a table. Knowing the column headings helps a lot when understanding what it means, but everyone in the discussion did not quote them because they are there to see in everyone's local linux installation. I know it can look confusing, but you wouldn't expect to be able to understand random lines from a CONFIG.SYS file on a dos/windows instalation just as that, either, would you? The good news are 1) You do *not* need to learn how to parse this before you start. In fact, the best way to learn linux (or any other OS) is to try to install it and mess with it until it works the way you want it to. 2) You don't need to *learn* it at all, not as in being able to memoize it when away from your computer, at least. I don't think anybody knows the syntax of every configuration file in a Debian system by heart, but most of us get along anyhow. The most important ability to have is the ability to look up the precise details in the on-line documentation when one needs them. 3) Linux offers more knobs and turns for controlling precisely how it behaves than any other OS you've ever worked with. The full amount of customability is much too big for a pretty graphical set-up screen to handle well, so one has to use text-based config files instead. It pays off tremendously, though. 4) It is usually possible to actually understand what the black magic in linux configuration files do. The role and format of each file is generally well documented in the on-line help. Contrast this to the situation on a windows box where the CONFIG.SYS file (not to mention the registration database) mostly consists of opaque entries that some automatic installation tool decided you want, without also deciding that you want to know why you want them. -- Henning Makholm http://www.diku.dk/students/makholm
Re: Program to chart ppp through-put?
Thank you Paolo, this is what I needed. In fact, gnuplot was on my list to experiment with to see if I could make it plot the data from pppstats. -- Jim Foltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACORN techie AOL/IM: jim foltz
lowmem install
Kudos to the developer who fixed lowmem.bin!!! Recall that it would not do the required swap partition tricks. The new lowmem.bin dated Dec 98 and carried in the slink directory worked like a charm. It had hamm installed in about an hour smooth as silk. Quite a treat after three months of pussyfooting with the July 98 version. Now my next problem is getting the ppp software to recognize com 7 as a valid com port. Com 7 is 3E8 IRQ5.
Re: terminal based schedule program
Here's a sample page to try out with lynx (I'm on a winbloze box at the moment and can't see how it works with lynx): http://www.extropia.com/cgi/Calendar/4.0/calendar.cgi The distribution is on the same site. When I was looking for web groupware calendaring programs a year or so ago, a search turned up quite a few of them in Java and Perl with various features and prices (many were free). My bookmarks on the subject were mostly personal home pages that now just return 404s, but I'm sure a search engine can locate current links. If you are looking for a personal appointment reminder instead of a groupware calendar, maybe some of the normal unix commands others on the list have mentioned would better meet your needs. Frank
Logitech Soundman Wave support not compiling
Has anyone built the sound driver with Soundman Wave support? I've tried under 2.0.34, 2.0.35, and 2.0.36 (I'm scared to inflict 2.1.125 on my unsuspecting hamm system), but always with the same result. Following is stderr of 'make zImage': soundcard.c:387: warning: `debugmem' defined but not used sound_switch.c: In function `sound_open_sw': sound_switch.c:400: warning: unused variable `retval' sound_switch.c: In function `sound_ioctl_sw': sound_switch.c:532: warning: unused variable `mixdev' drivers/sound/sound.a(dev_table.o): In function `sound_install_audiodrv': dev_table.o(.text+0xa8e): undefined reference to `DMAbuf_init' dev_table.o(.text+0xa93): undefined reference to `audio_init' make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 I'm using 'menuconfig', and selecting the 'Old configuration script'. If my kids don't get some sound in their games, I might have to recreate my dos partition. (Okay, I'm not that desperate.) Thanks, Matt Miller - 'Choose portability over efficiency.' Mark Gancarz, 'The Unix Philosophy' - Tenet 4
CDROM ISE-SCSI: Help please!
Hello! I have compiled my kernel with IDE-SCSI emmulation to try and burn CDs. However, I can no longer mount my CDROM drives using /dev/hd[x]. Can someone point me to the new devices they are being seen as, and|or the relevant manpages? /dev/sd[x], /dev/sg[x], /dev/scd[x] don't seem to work. :(. Thanks! Timothy -- E-Mail: Timothy Hospedales [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16-Jan-99 Time: 21:07:49 This message was sent by XFMail --
setleds and num lock
Hi, I have been working on this problem for a while. I can't get my number lock to default in the on position while in X. This is what I have done: In the /etc/init.d/rc file I placed: --- # I add the following for NumLock ON by default INITTY=/dev/tty[1-8] for tty in $INITTY; do setleds -D +num $tty done --- This activates my num lock on all terminals (tty1 through tty6) but not my X terminal tty7. I tried adding the linesetleds -D +num$ to /home/kent/.bash_profile like so: - #!/bin/bash # ~/.bash_profile: executed by bash(1) for login shells. umask 002 setleds -D +num$ crossyourfingers:/home/kent# ls -l /home/kent/.bash_profile -rwxr--r-- 1 kent kent 113 Jan 16 14:34 /home/kent/.bash_profile This creates the following error I don't understand, at the top of my xterm windows, when I open them: KDGETLED: Invalid argument Error reading current led setting. Maybe stdin is not a VT? ~$ I have also changed the line to read setleds -D +num and recieved the same error message. I have also tried both lines in the /etc/csh.login file. I get the same error message. I am using xdm and afterstep if that makes any difference. Once again I need some help. Thanks, Kent
Re: Netscape4.5 cannot find libraries
Hi Torsten, you wrote on: 16 Jan 99 at 09:28 (received 17.01.99) about : _Re: Netscape4.5 cannot find libraries_ I also have serious trouble with Netscape 4.5 (from ftp.netscape.com, only version available for Linux). I run the kernel 2.0.34 First try installing the xlib6 and xpm4.7 packages from the oldlibs section. Those packages are installed on my machine. If you still got problems, please check if /etc/ld.so.conf contains at least the following lines: /lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/libc5-compat /lib/libc5-compat If you still got any problems, please ask us again. My /etc/ld.so.conf looks like this: /lib /usr/lib/tkstep /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/libc5-compat /lib/libc5-compat ldd netscape gives me the following (ran ldconfig several times as root) libXt.so.6 = not found libSM.so.6 = not found libICE.so.6 = not found libXmu.so.6 = not found libXpm.so.4 = not found libXext.so.6 = not found libX11.so.6 = not found libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x4000a000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4000d000) libg++.so.27 = /lib/libg++.so.27 (0x400cb000) libstdc++.so.27 = /lib/libstdc++.so.27 (0x40103000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x4014) libstdc++.so.2.7.2 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.7.2 (0x40149000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40186000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4019f000) ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40244000) The first missing libs (did not check all of them) are located in /usr/ X11R6/lib. Since I am a linux-newbie, I may have messed with the system in earlier tries to get netscape running. I copied some libs, made soft- links, etc. but to the best of my knowledge, I un-did all this again. My previous attempts caused netscape to find all libraries, but abort on startup with message segmentation fault :-( Shall I de-install and re-install some components (dselect, apt-get)? Kind regards Frederick
Apt rocks; Gnome rocks.
The following is a copy of email I have sent to a friend who has been working with Debian. I have expressed doubts to him many times concerning the problems I had been having with my own Debian system. I had been having trouble compiling 2.1.X kernels, and in other ways too the system was broken. I didn't have time to update/upgrade, and apt wouldn't deal with the kludged up system. Finally I have reinstalled from a 2.0 LSL CD, upgraded to up-to-date Hamm, and then straight up to Slink via apt-get dist-upgrade. Now I am selectively upgrading to some potato packages. The following is my take on the amazingly clean Debian distribution and its amazing tools. As a user of Debian for well over three years, I have been plagued by doubts. Today, I want to express my gratitude to the many Debian developers who have contributed to this system, not to mention to all of the thousands of programmers who have contributed to the extant free software base. (I over heard a local computer shop owner saying that Windows 98 upgrades are causing all kinds of problems; perhaps he was seeding his clientele with FUD, but all the same, it makes me laugh.) Thanks. (I have taken the liberty of mailing copies to debian-user and debian-devel). Alan Davis ---BEGIN MAIL TO MY FRIEND ABOUT DEBIAN-- I've been having fun with Debian since my upgrade. Apt is a FANTASTIC piece of work. Please try it. After I reinstalled from the older CD, I ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade to bring the installation up-to-date. It took a few hours. Apt goes out over the internet to Debian's main server, and ftps the files necessary to bring the system up to date, then installs. It works well. Only a few glitches. Solvable---right now X11 is a bit fragile if you update to slink, but to update Hamm is really cool. That is the CD was Hamm, and I told apt to update Hamm to the up to date files on the FTP site, since there have been a few fixes, etc. The update went well. Then I pointed apt to the slink area on the FTP site and told it to update the distribution to slink: apt-get update-dist. 100MB of files were required. There are currently some glitches, since slink is not yet stable, so I used the -d (download only, do not install) switch to apt-get. There is discussion on the mailing list about problems with the upgrade, but I couldn't get any answers (the list is much larger, the subscriber base has apparently grown beyond imagination, and what was once one-to-one help in virtually every case is not apparently happening. Maybe people are tired of my requests too.) I finally decided, the next day (after the 100MB of files had been FTPd automatically) to give the install a try. It took a bit over an hour, I guess. X was broken. A couple packages were broken. There were some glitches with apt downloading packages I hadn't requested, and apt not following the list of wanted upgrades and holds I had carefully tried to do with dselect---it's possible that I don't yet understand how to use it all. Dselect was always out of my control. Apt is amazing though. It updates to slink, finds no inconsistencies. I had to manually get the x11 files. The problem is that there is no one-to-one mapping of hamm to slink in some packages. One hamm package is found in four or more slink files. (More of the rampant fractionalization I have detected in Debian before.) It took a couple hours to get it fixed. By the way, outside of mainstream hours, suddenly there is a radical improvement in PCI. I was getting consistent 3.3 kb/s ftp speeds. Thus the 100MB took only a relatively few hours! Once I had slink going, I pointed to potato, the newer distribution that isn't yet even frozen, so all ongoing new compiles have been going in there since October. I have used apt to upgrade specific packages from potato, such as the packages needed to compile the newest kernels. AND THEY COMPILE OK! And there is new video code in the newest kernels, including multiple matrox support. Including a whole new way of abstracting the video hardware. It works well, I think. This is pre 2.2.0 code. 2.2 will be the next stable releases, it's been way over a year and a half that 2.1 has been in limbo. I started tweaking with apt, installing some specific packages, and decided to try to install some x11 files that I saw on the FTP site, in potato. I used apt-get install packagename. Well, some package couldn't be installed, cause of unmet dependencies on some libraries. Apt get told me, and suggested I try to reinstall with the -f switch to apt-get. It worked, installed all needed packages to meet the unmet dependencies. So I tried gnome. That's the subject of this message. Gnome ROCKS. There is a Gnome application called electric eyes for browsing directories of graphics---wow. Of course the GIMP is also more than compatible, since Gnome also depends on the GNU gtk+ libraries, etc. Mc was written by the guy who I
xconfig, menuconfig
Hi *.* I'm linux newbie and guess this is kind of a dumb question, but I cannot find menuconfig or xconfig (trying to make the config-files in order to compile my kernel). (Running hamm, 2.0.34) Which package do I need to install? RTFM-answer welcome, but please name the man or howto :-) Kind regardsFrederick
How to use mingetty instead of getty ?
Hello: I want to replace getty with mingetty as it uses minimal resources. I tried changing getty to mingetty in /etc/inittab but it did not work. How do I go about it on a Debian 2.0 box. Why is Debian using getty as the default instead of mingetty which is the default in a Red Hat box ? ragOO, VU2RGU. Keeping the Air-Waves FREEAmateur Radio Keeping the WWW FREEDebian GNU/Linux
Re: xconfig, menuconfig
Hi, There are no such packages. They are Makefile targets. Go into your Linux source directory and do make xconfig or make menuconfig. Have fun! -Ossama __ Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 58 60 1A E8 7A 66 F4 44 74 9F 3C D4 EF BF 35 88 1024/8A04D15D 1998/08/26
Warning on mounting partitions: automate e2fsck?
The system I'm typing this on gets rebooted daily. (Yes, yes, I know that's bad, but my landlord doesn't like my leaving the system on when I'm not home.) After foo number of mounts, the boot process automatically runs e2fsck on the root partition. However, I mount several other partitions automatically via fstab, and on those I will after foo number of mounts get a warning that the drive should be checked. However, it's a pain to switch to runlevel 1 and manually check all those partitions. Why should I have to? Why can't the same process (init?) that autochecks the root partition, just automatically check the others instead of warning me? I have only vague knowledge of what happens when a Debian system bootstraps, so please make any answers fairly basic. Thank you. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Science and Technology Programming, I-Con 18 April 9-11, 1999www.iconsf.org
Re: How to use mingetty instead of getty ?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:40:15 + Resent-from: debian-user@lists.DEBIAN.org From: Raghavendra Bhat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; Precedence: list X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/32880 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Authentication-warning: giasmd01.vsnl.net.in: [203.197.128.229] didn't use HELO protocol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 487 Hello: I want to replace getty with mingetty as it uses minimal resources. I tried changing getty to mingetty in /etc/inittab but it did not work. How do I go about it on a Debian 2.0 box. hmm... works for me in Debian 2.0. Just remove any options concerned with getty speed. Below is part of my /etc/inittab. And don't forget to install mingetty 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2 ... Why is Debian using getty as the default instead of mingetty which is the default in a Red Hat box ? i have no idea ragOO, VU2RGU. OK
Re: Warning on mounting partitions: automate e2fsck?
Hi automatically runs e2fsck on the root partition. However, I mount several other partitions automatically via fstab, and on those I will after foo number of mounts get a warning that the drive should be checked. However, it's a pain to switch to runlevel 1 and manually check all those partitions. Why should I have to? Why can't the same process (init?) that autochecks the root partition, just automatically check the others instead of warning me? Does your /etc/fstab entry for those filesystems have the fsck-pass entry defined? For example, in my /etc/fstab file I have: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass /dev/sda1 / ext2defaults1 1 /dev/sda2 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/sda3 noneswapsw 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/sda5 /usr ext2 rw 1 2 /dev/sda6 /tmp ext2 rw 1 2 /dev/sda7 /export/home/fuzzy ext2 rw 1 2 Notice that my last 3 filesystems are marked pass 2 meaning that they will get checked second, i.e. after the root filesystem. From what I recall, those filesystems always get checked automatically for me. Make sure you don't have a zero 0 in the pass column of your filesystem(s). Swap and proc never get checked for obvious reasons. -Ossama
Re: How to use mingetty instead of getty ?
RB == Raghavendra Bhat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RB I want to replace getty with mingetty as it uses minimal RB resources. I tried changing getty to mingetty in /etc/inittab but RB it did not work. This is what I have: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1 2:234:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2 3:234:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3 4:234:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4 Ciao, Martin
Re: Language
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Sam Franc wrote: I have been lurking on this group. What text do I need to get to interpret what all this language means, such as: snip Learning a new language isn't necessary to get a linux box running, and use it effectively. Sure, there are some new concepts (uptimes 1 day :) ), but IMHO, you don't _need_ to worry about the complex stuff to begin with. I'd suggest getting hold of a book: Debian Linux Users' guide (comes with 3CDs), which is available from www.linuxpress.com Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
CR key broken ?
I have asked this before, but I still can't get to the bottom of it ? When I telnet into Debian 2.0 from a Terminal on the Ethernet, the CR key becomes broken in a few things and doesn't fucntion right. The terminals are DOS based machines running NCSA telnet clients, and worked just fine to Debian 1.3.1 ? The problem started following my upgrade to 2.0. The problem.. At the Linux prompt all is well, nothing appears to be wrong. However start something like JOE (editor) up and the CR doesn't insert when you hit it, it just wraps to the next line. For example, if you are half way through a line of text, and you hit CR, the second half of the line will drop to a new line , and all other lines drop down to make room, yes ! But not here, if I do such an action, the text will just drop ontop of the line below, making editing impossible. Now the problem doesn't persist if I start JOE (or the likes) in a SCREEN session, or indeed if I export the TERM type to VT102 or 220. Trouble is exporting the TERM type then breaks so many other things, and starting SCREEN everytime I want to use JOE (or the likes) is a bit sad. Now, SCREEN has it's own config file to set things up... But just what is it changing to make CR work OK, that my normal BASH shell isn't? Ie if I can find the answer. I could perhaps just add it to my /etc/profile file eh ?? Ideas ! -- Nidge Jones
Re: Why not as a newsgroup?
On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 09:42:13AM -0500, Roger Pittman wrote: Per the source code, the standard (oversimplified) sequence is: Ahhh, yes, what you describe is how it works usually. It's fine if you're sitting at a leased line or pay a flat fee for your phone call to your ISP. But what we were talking about were newsreaders which grab the headers of your selected groups, disconnect and let you mark articles for retrieval at a later time. This is not that usual with Unix newsreaders than it is with Windows and Mac programs, unfortunately.
Re: CR key broken ?
Nidge Jones wrote: At the Linux prompt all is well, nothing appears to be wrong. However start something like JOE (editor) up and the CR doesn't insert when you hit it, it just wraps to the next line. For example, if you are half way through a line of text, and you hit CR, the second half of the line will drop to a new line , and all other lines drop down to make room, yes ! But not here, if I do such an action, the text will just drop ontop of the line below, making editing impossible. Now the problem doesn't persist if I start JOE (or the likes) in a SCREEN session, or indeed if I export the TERM type to VT102 or 220. If you're only seeing this problem in joe, it's probably not that CR isn't working, and not that joe doesn't understand you've hit CR, but that joe doesn't properly update the screen when you do. You can test this by editing a file in joe and saving it and then looking at it with less or more and seeing if the CR's are really where you put them. Unfortunatly, joe has a very odd, messed up little termcap library all its own. It doesn't seem to work very well when used from things like windows telnet. -- see shy jo
Re: Language
On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 04:35:12PM -0800, Sam Franc wrote: I have been lurking on this group. What text do I need to get to interpret what all this language means, such as: /dev/hda1 /dos vfat defaults,umask=002,uid=0,gid=35 0 0 I am a complete novice and want to install Linux, but I see I need to learn a new language before I start. Hi Sam, now you got two excellent responses, but no answer what the line really means :) I will try to give that, but bear with me if I assume to much techno-knowledge. Ask questions! I realize that this information will be probably too much for you if you have not installed Linux yet. You probably want to safe this mail somewhere and return later, when you have more experience. You do *not* need to know this to install and explore Linux! The line is, as somebody else said, a line of a table. This table contains one line for each filesystem which can be mounted. A filesystem is something like a disk partition, a floppy, or a cdrom. It can even be a remote file system (Windows user would call it a file share), or a pseudo filesystem for communication with the operating system kernel (the proc file system, forget about it if you don't understand a word). The line comes from /etc/fstab (short for File System TABle). The first column contains the device file, which tells the system which device to use, especially which partition on the device. hd mean Hard Disk, a means the master on primary IDE controller (b is slave, c and d secondary IDE controller). The 1 means first primary partition. So, /dev/hda1 is the first primary partition on the master disk on primary IDE controller. The second column contains the location to mount the file system by default. In DOS, you use A:, B:, C: etc to mount your partitions. In Windows, you have Desktop\C, Desktop\D, or, in a network, network environment\workgroup\fileshare. In Linux, you can choose an *arbitrary* location, whereever you like. /dos means, the user has created a directory called dos in the top level directory (root directory), and he wants to mount the /dev/hda1 partition there. So, if /dev/hda1 has a file called foobar in the top level directory (C:\foobar in DOS), you could access it as /dos/foobar under Linux. The third is some special information about the TYPE of the filesystem. In Windows, you know that there can be fat, vfat, fat32 filesystems. In Linux, there are many more, ext2fs is the standard file system for Linux, so you will see this often. Linux supports all Windows file systems, macintosh, amiga, some Unix, network file systems etc. You can get a list of supported filesystems in your kernel with the command cat /proc/filesystems. I have: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/filesystems ext2 minix msdos vfat nodev proc iso9660 This means, proc is not a real filesystems (nodev), but the others are. BTW, iso9660 is the standard file systems for CD ROMS. The fourth columns contains a list of options to pass to the mount command. There are many options, the options above mean: defaults: use all defaults options (which these are you can find in the documentation). umask, gid, uid set the owner, group and permissions of the files. I would recommend not to worry about these at this stage of learning. The fifth and sixth columns are a bit cryptic. The fifth is related to some dump command, forget about it for now. The sixth means in which order the filesystems should be checked at boot time. 0 means, do not check this file system at boot time. 1 is usually rthe root file system, and 2 all others. I hope this clarified thiungs a bit. If you are interested, there is more information. Try man fstab, man mount in your Linux shell. Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
DEBIAN LINUX
Mein Name ist Peter Horatschek. Ich habe mir das CHIP LINUX-Spezial mit DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 2.0 gekauft. Aber jedesmal wenn ich das installierte Linux starte stürzt es ab. (Es reagiert auf keinen TAstendruck mehr). Was kann ich tun? Hilfe bitte an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Danke.
Re: Fw: Bitte weitersenden! B I T T E!!!! (fwd)
Michael Hammann wrote: Hallo, bitte macht bei diesem vielleicht lebenswichtigen Schneeball- eMail mit :-) Julian Weddige schrieb: Subject:Bitte weitersenden! B I T T E Denk Dir schon mal eine sehr gute Ausrede aus, die könnte für Dich lebenswichtig werden! Raphael P.S. Bitte NICHT antworten!
AMD K6-2 / Bogomips problem
Hi, I think i have a problem with one of my new K6-2 box. I have two boxes : same motherboard (ASUS P5A) , same amount of memory (128Mo). Same output of /proc/cpuinfo for both *except* for bogomips. One is a 350MHz and it gives me ~350 Bogomips the other is a 400MHz and it gives me ~800 Bogomips I think there is a problem. What do you think ? What should i check first ? Thanks for your help Patrick
Re: AMD K6-2 / Bogomips problem
On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 11:13:41AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One is a 350MHz and it gives me ~350 Bogomips the other is a 400MHz and it gives me ~800 Bogomips I think there is a problem. What do you think ? No. What should i check first ? Read the Bogomips mini-Howto. /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/BogoMips.gz Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
Re: DEBIAN LINUX
On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 12:14:59PM +0100, Peter Horatsche wrote: Mein Name ist Peter Horatschek. Ich habe mir das CHIP LINUX-Spezial mit DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 2.0 gekauft. Aber jedesmal wenn ich das installierte Linux starte stürzt es ab. (Es reagiert auf keinen TAstendruck mehr). Was kann ich tun? Als erstes könntest Du uns eine genaue Fehlermeldung geben, ohne die wissen wir nämlich gar nichts (stürzt ab ist nicht gerade inreichend informativ). Also: An welcher Stelle stürzt es ab, was sind die letzten paar Zeilen auf dem Bildschirm? Wenn die Bildschirmausgabe irgendetwas mit Hardware zu tun hat, welche relevante Hardware hast Du installiert (wenn Du nicht ahnst, was ich meine, beantworte nur die erste Frage). Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
RE: Learning more/Linux programming books
snip I think that it is worth considering skipping the Pascal stage and going straight to C, or equivalent languages. Taking this approach a bit further, I think it is even worth considering going straight to C++, perhaps by talking first about the procedural aspects of C++ and only then, as a second stage, talking about the OOP aspects. snip Are you crazy? He's a begginner and he wants learn programming not to get mad. Let me suggest a different angle toward this issue. You are interested in learning more about programming the Linux system, right? Linux is written in C -- not Pascal, not C++, for the most part. I am not disparaging those languages, and in fact am more interested in using C++ than C. Certainly the C++ advocates feel that you can just learn to program in C++ to start with. But I decided to go ahead with C because I want to understand the Linux system well. How can you run if you don't know how to walk? If you want to learn programming the best language is Pascal: a) It's closer to the natural language than C and, of course, C++, and all of us think in our own natural language (english, spanish, french, german, etc...) and this is the first language we use when we develope a program. b) It forces you to make a highly structured code. Bad programming habits appears easier with C than with Pascal. Learn C is not necessary the way to understand linux. To understand linux you must know how to programm devices like controllers, video cards, sound cards, etc..., and programm devices is something that you can do with Pascal also. Antonio A. Rivas[EMAIL PROTECTED] STARTEG project - Oviedo (Spain)
problem with video card
Hi there, I hope this won't be too much of an off-topic. I recently had to change my video card (S3 Trio64V+, 2MB) for a new one (from SuperProbe: Chipset: S3 VIRGE/DX (PCI probed) Memory: 2048 Kbytes RAMDAC Generic 8-bit pseudo-color DAC (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode)) Now, the problem is that it doesn't give any trouble in W95, but it does with Linux: every now and then I get like one or two refreshing-like movements on my screen. I thought this also happened during bootup with the BIOS, although I believe it's just when LILO is loading up. I contacted with the monitor manufacturer (Philips 104I SVGA) and could give me no support on this problem. Anyone knows what could be going on? Although this doesn't seem to be related, I also changed the box for a ATX one (the mainboard had support for AT and ATX). TIA -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiles
If you been following this topic, you will know I upgraded two 1.3.1 machines here to 2.0. And both were having similar kernel compile problems? In my last mail I explained how I had solved the Kernel compile problem, by purging and re-installing the libc6-dev package... Following a suggestion about the /usr/include structure being different??? I also said I was going to do the exact same thing on the remaining 2nd Debian 2.0 system (ie purge and re-install libc6-dev)... to see if by some miracle (or fluke, he he) the same would happen again. And guess what, it worked :-) Kernel compiles (2.0.36) work like a dream on both machines now, just as I would expect them to ! Well at least as far as the make 'dep' 'clean' and 'zImage' go. I still have to test make 'modules' and 'modules_install'. But I am now confident all is OK. So, my brokenly Debian 2.0 system isn't so brokenly now, and is getting back to what 1.3.1 used to be like - Heaven ! I Still know of a few more broken things, and I dare say I wil find more. But many are simple to solve. Like installing a needed OLDLIB package, or a little re-configuring etc. The nagging problem I have at the moment is with damm broken CR (see last mail), if only I could sort that out, I would be rockin again :- I must say thank you to all that helped on debian-user, Besides helping mend my brokenly box, you have also helped restore my faith in Debian once again. I have had some (lots) of *VERY* testing and frustrating times this last week or so? But fear not, I am holding the annual Redhat/Slackware CD burning ceromoney as per normal sometime later today :-)) In fact one of the Redhat CD's might just escape the ritual this year. As this last week it has become of great use (for a change)... Masquerading as a Coaster to stand my drinks on grin. Cheers -- Nidge Jones
LILO-problems
I have compiled a new kernel, I run make zdisk to make a boot-disk and that works just fine. But I can't make my hard-drive boot-able. When init is about to start I get an oops, 'unable to handle kernel paging request...'. I have also tried make-kpkg but I get the same error. lilo.conf points to /vmlinuz, I have tried /boot/vmlinuz, and placing a copy of zImage under / and /boot/ with various names (vmlinuz, zImage...) Any ideas? /Patrik (btw do posts to linux.debian.user find their way to this list?)
Re: CR key broken ?
Joey Hess Writes.. Unfortunatly, joe has a very odd, messed up little termcap library all its own. It doesn't seem to work very well when used from things like windows telnet. It has worked 100% excellent here for months, from my DOS/NCSA terminals to my Debian 1.3.1 server. The problem only started when I upgraded from 1.3.1 to 2.0 Just knowing what is broken isn't it ! -- Nidge Jones
Re: Apt rocks; Gnome rocks.
Previously Alan Eugene Davis wrote: The problem is that there is no one-to-one mapping of hamm to slink in some packages. One hamm package is found in four or more slink files. We are going to address this issue though. For X there will very likely be an upgrade path that does not suffer from this problem. For the netstd package that has been split up we have yet to find a good solution; if you use dselect to do the upgrade (dselect can use apt!) it should have installed the new packages automatically by the way. Mc was written by the guy who I think started gnome, Miquel van Smoorenberg (spelling wrong). This guy is in Mexico, and has been a key linux developer. I am now apt-getting the gnome mc package. You are confusing two people: we have Miquel van Smoorenburg, who wrote things like sysvinit and minicom and is a Debian developer, and lives in The Netherlands. The person you are referring to is Miguel de Icaza, who is responsible for a lot of the GNOME project, and is indeed also the author of mc. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpnHIm81OLBf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Warning on mounting partitions: automate e2fsck?
Does your /etc/fstab entry for those filesystems have the fsck-pass entry defined? No. I never actually read the docs on fstab and didn't realize what that field meant. Thank you very much. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Science and Technology Programming, I-Con 18 April 9-11, 1999www.iconsf.org
Re: AMD K6-2 / Bogomips problem
On 17-Jan-99, Marcus Brinkmann took time to write : One is a 350MHz and it gives me ~350 Bogomips the other is a 400MHz and it gives me ~800 Bogomips I think there is a problem. What do you think ? No. i think there is, see below What should i check first ? Read the Bogomips mini-Howto. /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/BogoMips.gz besides the fact it seems outdated (1997-12-13), it says like me: AMD K5/K6 clock * (2.00 plusminus 0.010) 11.1 and it lists K6 at 166Mhz having already ~330Bogomips ! so my AMD K6-2 at 350Mhz should have 700Bogomips isn't it ? so next part of my question: what should i check ? bios settings ? (the howto is not precise enough imho) Patrick
Re: still fighting for normality
On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 03:27:55PM +, Rich Harran. wrote: rwx for group), but this doesn't work, and I can't even chmod the permissions as root. If I type chmod --verbose g+w /mnt it claims to have changed the permissions, but doesn't actually. the vfat filesystem doesn't support permissions; everything you mount will have the permissions defined by your umask. if you need file perms you might want to look into the umsdos filesystem; try man fs for a little more. Rob -- The only difference between the saint and the sinner is that every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. -- Oscar Wilde
Dynamic IP addressing
Does Debian support DHCP/BOOTP IP addressing?
popularity-contest mail gets frozen
I have installed the popularity-contest package and the mail it generates is not sent, but rather frozen. This is what the first file in /var/spool/exim/input/ says: 101qNi-0005l7-00-D This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unrouteable mail domain debian.org -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from root by debian with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 101qMj-0005bU-00; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:27:37 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: popularity-contest submission Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:27:37 -0500 And then follows the package-usage info. And this is what the other file in /var/spool/exim/input/ says: 101qNi-0005l7-00-H mail 8 8 916572518 0 -ident mail -received_protocol local -body_linecount 362 -frozen 916581369 -localerror -manual_thaw XX 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 119P Received: from mail by debian with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 101qNi-0005l7-00; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:28:38 -0500 048 X-Failed-Recipients: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 050F From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] 022T To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 059 Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender 039I Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 038 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:28:38 -0500 I'm running the latest from potato with exim as my mailer. Exim seems to be configured properly for everything else I do. One other point that may be relevant--I'm not online all the time, but shouldn't this message get queued up and sent like all the other mail that I send while offline? What's going on here? Is it a misconfiguration on my part? If it would be helpful to provide any more information/config files I'll do so. Thanks, James
Re: CDROM ISE-SCSI: Help please!
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Timothy Hospedales wrote: Hello! I have compiled my kernel with IDE-SCSI emmulation to try and burn CDs. However, I can no longer mount my CDROM drives using /dev/hd[x]. Can someone point me to the new devices they are being seen as, and|or the relevant manpages? /dev/sd[x], /dev/sg[x], /dev/scd[x] don't seem to work. :(. Thanks! Timothy I'm using SCSI emulation on my burner and CDROM drive, and they both work fine. I mount them with devices /dev/scd0 and scd1. I have noticed that you must have SCSI support, SCSI CD-ROM support, and SCSI generic support compiled *in* the kernel, not as modules. /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
Re: Dynamic IP addressing
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Jonathan Burley wrote: Does Debian support DHCP/BOOTP IP addressing? Yes, I'm using DHCP via the dhcpcd program now. I've heard of others using bootp. There is a new dhcpcd program that you will need to use for the 2.2 kernels, but I forgot it's name. HTH, Brandon +--- ---+ | Brandon Mitchell * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/ | | The above is a completely random sequence of bits, any relation to | | an actual message is purely accidental. |
Re: Learning more/Linux programming books
On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 05:05:48AM +0100, Antonio A. Rivas Ojanguren wrote: snip I think that it is worth considering skipping the Pascal stage and going straight to C, or equivalent languages. Taking this approach a bit further, I think it is even worth considering going straight to C++, perhaps by talking first about the procedural aspects of C++ and only then, as a second stage, talking about the OOP aspects. snip Are you crazy? He's a begginner and he wants learn programming not to get mad. I agree with him. Yes, he is a beginner. However, OO programming and procedural programming are different enough. If you teach the bad habits you get in C first, it is harder to change to a type safe and well organized OO programming language. How can you run if you don't know how to walk? If you want to learn programming the best language is Pascal: a) It's closer to the natural language than C and, of course, C++, and all of us think in our own natural language (english, spanish, french, german, etc...) and this is the first language we use when we develope a program. This can also be a disadvantage, because programming _is_ much unlike natural language. b) It forces you to make a highly structured code. Bad programming habits appears easier with C than with Pascal. Then you should advocate C++, because it is type safe and enforces much more organization than C or Pascal. Procedural programming is more structured than BASIC, but OO programming is much more structured than procedural programming. Learn C is not necessary the way to understand linux. To understand linux you must know how to programm devices like controllers, video cards, sound cards, etc..., and programm devices is something that you can do with Pascal also. This I agree with. However, reading C code written by experts requries some understanding of C on its own. You can start with any language. For a complete beginner, I would advocate Scheme. Even if you don't want to do big projects in Scheme, you can start very fast. A good book on programming (using Scheme) is Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, Abelson/Sussman. Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
Re: AMD K6-2 / Bogomips problem
On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 03:34:42PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: besides the fact it seems outdated (1997-12-13), it says like me: AMD K5/K6 clock * (2.00 plusminus 0.010) 11.1 and it lists K6 at 166Mhz having already ~330Bogomips ! so my AMD K6-2 at 350Mhz should have 700Bogomips isn't it ? I don't know what -2 means at K6-2. so next part of my question: what should i check ? bios settings ? (the howto is not precise enough imho) Quote from the howto: Many CPUs are prone to faulty setups of · memory cache setting (write-back is wrong for BogoMips, often reported lower than 5; write-through is ok) · turbo-buttons (should be ON) · BIOS-software emulated fake cache (change it for real cache) · similar cache and clock related things. Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
GCC/e2fsck probs resolved
Thanks to all who replied. I did a e2fsck on the drive, then reinstalled the GCC package and have had no problem since. Life is good :) SJG
Re: man page for hwclock
James Dietrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simple question: Where did it go? I'm running the latest from potato. util-linux 2.9g-3 /usr/man/man8/clock.8.gz - hwclock.8.gz ls: /usr/man/man8/hwclock.8.gz: No such file or directory /var/catman/cat8/hwclock.8.gz does exist, so it used to be there. Please report a bug (but check the archive first). The man page for hwclock seems to be missing in this packages version. Torsten -- Homepage: http://www.in-berlin.de/User/myrkr
RE: CR key broken ?
On 17-Jan-99 Nidge Jones wrote: I have asked this before, but I still can't get to the bottom of it ? When I telnet into Debian 2.0 from a Terminal on the Ethernet, the CR key becomes broken in a few things and doesn't fucntion right. [snip] At the Linux prompt all is well, nothing appears to be wrong. However start something like JOE (editor) up and the CR doesn't insert when you hit it, it just wraps to the next line. For example, if you are half way through a line of text, and you hit CR, the second half of the line will drop to a new line , and all other lines drop down to make room, yes ! But not here, if I do such an action, the text will just drop ontop of the line below, making editing impossible. [snip] I'm not finding it easy to understand what's going on from your description, but if I understand aright then: In case A: you press return in the middle of a line, the line breaks, the second half and all below drop a line, and the second half begins at the left of the screen. In case B: you press return in the middle of a line, the line breaks, the second half and all below drop a line, and the second half begins vertically below where it was before. If that's the case, then in case A your screen display is executing a CR-LF combination, while in the second case it is executing a LF only. Quite where this arises is anyone's guess, since the relationships between keyboard input, file contents, and screen display depend on a variety of translations carried out internally. Normally, for keyboard input to a text file in any editor, the CR key inserts a LF into the file (the standard UNIX end-of-line delimiter). Normally, when a text file with LF EOL delimiters is output to screen, the LF is translated into a CR-LF pair. So case A looks normal, and case B looks like a failure to translate LF-CR-LF on output. This is possibly an stty problem: try giving the command stty -a in the relevant terminal, and compare the output with what man stty says. God luck, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 17-Jan-99 Time: 12:04:44 -- XFMail --
Thanks for help becoming normal and /dev/null problem
Thanks to everyone who helped me sort out the proper mounting of my dos drives so that the group 'dos' could access them rwx. As many of you suspected, it was my inability to distinguish between umask and unmask which was causing my problem (I have the same problem with umount: I read an 'n' which isn't there). For some reason, I wasn't getting an error message though? Anyway, I'm still having trouble with my /dev/null, which sometimes reverts to permissions: rwx__ when I reboot, causing X (and other) problems (it also did so after I had got X running today, possibly when I symlinked by ~/.netscape/cookies file to it). Could anyone please tell me why this happens, and how to stop it. Thanks in advance Rich
Re: Debian 2.1?
On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 06:02:25PM -0500, SEGV wrote: Okay, it's been another month. Are we any closer to a 2.1 release for x86? Hopefully. It's still slated for release this month. Is there a web site where I can more closely track progress? There is a list of release-critical bugs avalible on the web at http://master.debian.org/~wakkerma/report.html . These are bugs which must be dealt with in some way before release. Some bugs may be fixed already by uploads which haven't made it into the archive yet. Other than that, you can try following the debian-devel mailing list. Summaries are posted to debian-devel-announce and on the web somewhere, but obviously they aren't complete. Will it be out before or after kernel 2.2? Perhaps - depends when they are released :-) . It won't contain kernel 2.2, but it contains pretty much everything kernel 2.2 requires. All I've had to upgrade was PCMCIA and DHCP (the required PCMCIA support hasn't even been officially released yet, so problems are perhaps unsurprising). -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
Re: dosemu and freedos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (shaul) et.al. write: Also the setup-dosemu program appears to be missing, does anyone know if there is a deb with it in or do I need to get it from the sources. I do not know about it. It's part of the dosemu package, but it's located at a unconvenient place: $ locate setup-dosemu /usr/lib/dosemu/setup-dosemu I don't know if this should be reported as a bug. Greetings, joachim
Re: DPKG
I was wondering... (And this probably already has been mentioned but anyway), why wouldn't DPKG/APT/DSELECT use a real database server like mySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL/... to keep it's own database? Because a database has to be set up, as well as taking a significant amount of space that simply isn't available on the installation floppies. dselect/apt has to work as soon as the base system is installed. If you introduce a complex product like a RDBMS, there's just too much extra that can go wrong. Good point. Another one is that many low-end machines don't have the horsepower or disk space to run dpkg/apt with an sql server. We need to keep Debian as lean mean as possible. Actually, not all of dselect's methods work right out of the floppies. Neither does most of Debian's 1500 packages. But I think that to ALLOW, and not FORCE, dpkg to access a database server could be of use. Think of it on large networks where the admin must sync a few key packages, or in places where identical machines are a necessary, or highly appreciated thing. My point is that it actually can be quite useful to do, yours is that it's quite stupid to FORCE things that way. The hell with it, I'm fully agreeing with ya. ;) Does anyone really uses weekly all of dselect's methods? Why then would one use maultiple packages databases? I think were arguing on a 'one fits all' vs a specialized solution. Anyway, once you've got a database server installed, I think it should be a great thing to use, since anyway, next re-install is in a few decades. ;P Christian Lavoie
Re: AMD K6-2 / Bogomips problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: besides the fact it seems outdated (1997-12-13), it says like me: AMD K5/K6 clock * (2.00 plusminus 0.010) 11.1 and it lists K6 at 166Mhz having already ~330Bogomips ! so my AMD K6-2 at 350Mhz should have 700Bogomips isn't it ? so next part of my question: what should i check ? bios settings ? (the howto is not precise enough imho) I think I would be concerned too. I have an AMD K6-2 3D 350 MHz processor, overclocked to 400MHz and I get the following from cat /proc/cpuinfo: processor : 0 cpu : 586 model : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor vendor_id : AuthenticAMD stepping: A fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid : yes wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 syscr mmx 3dnow bogomips: 801.18 Sorry if I state the obvious, but you are running at 3.5 x 100 MHz? You do have 100 MHz memory? I have found in the past on a couple of occasions I have had ludicrously low bogomips figures and have re-compiled the kernel (not even changing the settings!) and the rate has gone up the next time i have re-booted. Only ever happened with a RedHat system - don't know why. What kernel are you using? There are a couple of AMD K6-2 patches around. -- Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux v.2.0
Re: Netscape4.5 cannot find libraries
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick Page) writes: [necessary Packages are installed, ld.so.conf is fine] The first missing libs (did not check all of them) are located in /usr/ X11R6/lib. Since I am a linux-newbie, I may have messed with the system in earlier tries to get netscape running. I copied some libs, made soft- links, etc. but to the best of my knowledge, I un-did all this again. My previous attempts caused netscape to find all libraries, but abort on startup with message segmentation fault :-( Please do the following and compare: ~$ ls /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX* /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6@/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6@ /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6.1 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6.0 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXIE.so.6@/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXp.so.6@ /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXIE.so.6.0 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXp.so.6.2 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXaw.so.6@/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4@ /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXaw.so.6.1 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4.10 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6@ /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6@ /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6.3 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6.0 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXi.so.6@ /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXtst.so.6@ /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXi.so.6.0/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXtst.so.6.1 You should have at least some libX11, libXpm files there. Some of the are symlinks. Shall I de-install and re-install some components (dselect, apt-get)? If the libaries are not in their directories, please manually install the oldlibs/xpm4.7 and oldlibs/xlib6 packages. Just something like: dpkg -i .../debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/oldlibs/xpm* You can also call ldconfig -p | grep 'libc5.*X' to check which libaries the dynamic linker knows of. My output is: $ /sbin/ldconfig -p | grep 'libc5.*X' libX11.so.6 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 libXtst.so.6 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXtst.so.6 libXt.so.6 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 libXpm.so.4 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 libXp.so.6 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXp.so.6 libXmu.so.6 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 libXi.so.6 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXi.so.6 libXext.so.6 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 libXaw.so.6 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXaw.so.6 libXIE.so.6 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXIE.so.6 libPEX5.so.6 (libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libPEX5.so.6 Torsten -- Homepage: http://www.in-berlin.de/User/myrkr
video capture--does Snappy run under linux? Other reccomendations?
Hi I am looking for a cheap way of capturing still images from my Hi8 camcorder. Looking around, Snappy ($100), seems to fit the bill. Is there anyway this will run under linux or linux/wine? Does anyone have any other recommendations? TIA Richard
TCP/IP Printing
Sorry to ask this again, but I realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list from this account last time, therefore if anyone replied I couldn't see it. I recently convinced my boss to buy me an ethernet card fo my linux box. I successfuly recompiled the kernel using the tulip driver and it all works. Now I want to be able to print to our office printer. It's a HP LaserJet 3 with an Axis MIO card. This could prove to be it's downfall, as the particular MIO card requires a windows based print server. In fact it recommends win 3.11. So that is our current configuration. I've never needed to print from Linux before, as until now it has simply been a hobby of mine. However the time has come for me to learn. I've read all the printing How-To's I can find and they haven't been a lot of help. Somewhere I read that there is a Printing-to-windows howto, but to quote the author, it's available out there somewhere. If anyone has any idea about where I could find that how-to, or if you just happen to know how to set up Linux to print in this configuration I would very much appreciate any help you could offer. -Colin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: AMD K6-2 / Bogomips problem
On 17-Jan-99, Marcus Brinkmann took time to write : On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 03:34:42PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: besides the fact it seems outdated (1997-12-13), it says like me: AMD K5/K6 clock * (2.00 plusminus 0.010) 11.1 and it lists K6 at 166Mhz having already ~330Bogomips ! so my AMD K6-2 at 350Mhz should have 700Bogomips isn't it ? I don't know what -2 means at K6-2. it's the new generation of K6 chips. also known as K6-3D so next part of my question: what should i check ? bios settings ? (the howto is not precise enough imho) Quote from the howto: Many CPUs are prone to faulty setups of · memory cache setting (write-back is wrong for BogoMips, often reported lower than 5; write-through is ok) less than clear to me · turbo-buttons (should be ON) in these days i rarely found units with turbo buttons anymore · BIOS-software emulated fake cache (change it for real cache) · similar cache and clock related things. yeah... but 'similar' doesn't tell me where to start searching... Thanks for your help, but besides the bios to check - and i'm not very optimistic with that, will see tomorrow - , i don't see anything to do... bad ! Patrick
start svgalib progs from X
I want to start qwcl (quake world) from xqf (an X game finder). I remember something that would change the current vt (via chvt maybe) and then run your non-X program, followed by a change back to X. Does anyone know of such a program/script? Thanks, Brandon +--- ---+ | Brandon Mitchell * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/ | | The above is a completely random sequence of bits, any relation to | | an actual message is purely accidental. |
Re: TCP/IP Printing
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Colin Boyd wrote: Sorry to ask this again, but I realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list from this account last time, therefore if anyone replied I couldn't see it. I recently convinced my boss to buy me an ethernet card fo my linux box. I successfuly recompiled the kernel using the tulip driver and it all works. Now I want to be able to print to our office printer. It's a HP LaserJet 3 with an Axis MIO card. This could prove to be it's downfall, as the particular MIO card requires a windows based print server. In fact it recommends win 3.11. So that is our current configuration. I've never needed to print from Linux before, as until now it has simply been a hobby of mine. However the time has come for me to learn. I've read all the printing How-To's I can find and they haven't been a lot of help. Somewhere I read that there is a Printing-to-windows howto, but to quote the author, it's available out there somewhere. If anyone has any idea about where I could find that how-to, or if you just happen to know how to set up Linux to print in this configuration I would very much appreciate any help you could offer. /usr/doc/SMB-HOWTO.gz (in the doc-linux-text package). Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: xconfig, menuconfig
Hi Ossama, you wrote on: 16 Jan 99 at 22:13 (received 17.01.99) about : _Re: xconfig, menuconfig_ There are no such packages. They are Makefile targets. Go into your Linux source directory and do make xconfig or make menuconfig. Thank you very much for your information, I will try so later. Kind regardsFrederick
Re: non-free/libs package gets installed into libs
Hi, When the packages was installed, you must have gotten an e-mail from maor-installer saying: | If the override file requires editing, reply to this email. If your | upload fixed reported bugs, you should close them now. I'm not sure which packages you're trying, but you should check override files on the ftp sites (debian/indices/override.*.*.gz) first and reply to the e-mail with notes what has changed. I didn't upload the packages to master by that time. The installation was local. I built the packages and then installed them as soon as I built them. I just sent the packages to master last night so I should find out if the problem persists once the package gets installed into Debian. Unfortunatley, I still can't figure out why the local installation went into libs instead of non-free/libs. -Ossama __ Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 58 60 1A E8 7A 66 F4 44 74 9F 3C D4 EF BF 35 88 1024/8A04D15D 1998/08/26
Browser with CSS1 support.
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Re: Browser with CSS1 support.
Hello, I'm looking for a web-browser that would handle CSS1 tests, provided by w3.org. I tried Mozilla ( slink .deb ), and, despite the claims of www.mozilla.org, tests were not 'passed'. Are there any suitable browsers? Emacs-W3 also claims CSS1 support. W3's own Amaya also has some support (but it shouldn't pass the tests, AFAIK) Christian Lavoie
Re: AMD K6-2 / Bogomips problem
On 17-Jan-99, Phillip Deackes took time to write : so my AMD K6-2 at 350Mhz should have 700Bogomips isn't it ? I think I would be concerned too. I have an AMD K6-2 3D 350 MHz I am ! processor, overclocked to 400MHz and I get the following from cat /proc/cpuinfo: processor : 0 cpu : 586 model : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor vendor_id : AuthenticAMD stepping: A fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid : yes wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 syscr mmx 3dnow bogomips: 801.18 i have : processor : 0 cpu : 586 model : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor vendor_id : AuthenticAMD stepping: M difference !!! what is it ? fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid : yes wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 syscr pge mmx 3dnow ^^^ difference ! what's that ? bogomips: 350.62 i will try to read the kernel sources if i understand anything... but i someone knows about these things... Sorry if I state the obvious, but you are running at 3.5 x 100 MHz? You ^ i have to check tomorrow directly on the main board (is that what you think : multiplier and bus frequency) do have 100 MHz memory? i have two 64Mo chips 100MHz coming from different manufacturers (could that be the cause ?) will bogomips change if memory changes ? I have found in the past on a couple of occasions I have had ludicrously low bogomips figures and have re-compiled the kernel (not even changing the settings!) and the rate has gone up the next time i have re-booted. Only ever happened with a RedHat system - don't know why. isn't that strange ? bogomips should only depend on hardware no ? What kernel are you using? There are a couple of AMD K6-2 patches around. 2.0.36 without any patch i can think of. otherwise the 'compile as [386/486/Pentium/PentiumPro]' option in kernel compilation could change the bogomips rating or not ? i compiled it as a 686. should i compile it as a 586 ? Patrick
Script..... cvs......
Hello, I need a hand with scripting... ive got a script that 'want' to update cvs things. But sometimes i get messages like: cvs [update aborted]: connect to anoncvs.gnome.org:2401 failed: Connection refused The script goes on ignoring the message and it think, it has update the module... How can i make it more intelligent trying again when this message apear? Thanks, -- Phillip Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: start svgalib progs from X
Hi Brandon, I want to start qwcl (quake world) from xqf (an X game finder). I remember something that would change the current vt (via chvt maybe) and then run your non-X program, followed by a change back to X. Does anyone know of such a program/script? There is a little program called switchvt... I hardly remember, but I think it was just a single C file. It might do the job as it talks to the kernel console code. (I haven't used it for a long time; neither do I know whether it should/will work with newer kernels as there have been 'some' changes to console code recently) HTH. Tino.
Re: AMD K6-2 / Bogomips problem
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: otherwise the 'compile as [386/486/Pentium/PentiumPro]' option in kernel compilation could change the bogomips rating or not ? i compiled it as a 686. should i compile it as a 586 ? From Configure.help: - Pentium for the AMD K5, K6 and K6-3D, Cyrix MediaGX, Cyrix/IBM/National Semiconductor 6x86 and GXm, IDT Centaur WinChip C6, and Intel Pentium/Pentium MMX - PPro for the Cyrix/IBM/National Semiconductor 6x86MX, MII and Intel Pentium II/Pentium Pro I don't know if it would affect bogomips, but it might be worth a try. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: C++ book.
everybody learns in different ways. that's for sure. so the stroustrup book may be the one for you. however, i have had much more success with other books (like the primer). while he may be a buddha when it comes to writing languages, i don't think stroustrup is that great of a teacher ... so far. the book is good to have because it is THE WORD on the language. but i'd go elsewhere to learn... best of luck, ari == shaul writes: Can you recommend a good C++ book ? How about the 3rd edition of Stroustrup's book ? Is it better then the new edition of the C++ Primer ?
Re: C++ book.
As far as a book to learn from goes, I would Recommend C++: How to Program, Deitel/Deitel 2nd Ed., Prentice Hall, 1998. I learned from the previous edition of this book. It's really good, IMHO. HTH, Steve /\ / \ /\ / /\/\ \ /\ Steve Beitzel / /\ /\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \/ \/ \ http://www.iit.edu/~beitste / /\ \ICQ#: 19510745 \ \/ / \ ___/ \ /___\ / \ \___/ / \ / \/ \ / \/ On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, ari gold wrote: everybody learns in different ways. that's for sure. so the stroustrup book may be the one for you. however, i have had much more success with other books (like the primer). while he may be a buddha when it comes to writing languages, i don't think stroustrup is that great of a teacher ... so far. the book is good to have because it is THE WORD on the language. but i'd go elsewhere to learn... best of luck, ari == shaul writes: Can you recommend a good C++ book ? How about the 3rd edition of Stroustrup's book ? Is it better then the new edition of the C++ Primer ? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
smail mail
I've read the documentation but I can't find what I'm looking for. mailq lists the mail waiting to be sent, but is there a command that says Send all waiting mail NOW! ? thanks tb
Re: start svgalib progs from X
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Tino Schwarze wrote: I want to start qwcl (quake world) from xqf (an X game finder). I remember something that would change the current vt (via chvt maybe) and then run your non-X program, followed by a change back to X. Does anyone know of such a program/script? There is a little program called switchvt... I hardly remember, but I think it was just a single C file. That's about all I remember, too. (Although I was trying runvt, loadvt, launchvt.) Anyone have ideas on where it's located/hiding, switchvt didn't show up in any packages. TIA, Brandon +--- ---+ | Brandon Mitchell * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/ | | The above is a completely random sequence of bits, any relation to | | an actual message is purely accidental. |
mail to multiple machines
Hallo all, I'm not all that well up on how mail works so it's a bit of a mess at the moment, but here's my current problem. I have two user accounts set up on my machine at home, this one for the Debian group and my 'normail' login account. It's like this for two reasons, firstly to keep Debian mail separate from my normal mail and secondly because I know diddly about routing mail to different mailboxes for a single user. Now I've just bought a laptop and set up my normal login account on that, but not this Debian account. If I now connect to my SMTP server, what happens to my mail? Both machines have a domain name of spoiler.demon.co.uk so will all the mail destined for this account be downloaded regardless of which machine connects? So if I do connect with the laptop and this account doesn't exist what happens to the mail? I thought all undeliverable mail went to the 'postmaster' but that hasn't happened. So where's it gone? tb
re: C++ book
When you get proficient you will want Stroustrup's books, Meyers' books, and perhaps Lakos' book. Until then, pick whichever introductory book works for you. The Primer is probably good. -- SEGVhttp://www.cgocable.net/~mlepage/
Filenames vfat-fs
I mounted on my notebook the win95-partition as shown: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win95 -t vfat It seems to be with no problems. But in each win95 is a directory named Program Files. I can't change in this dir, because it's a space in the filename. Has it a way to change in this dir - other than mount the partition as ... -t msdos where this dir is named Progra~1? Thanks Matthias
Re: smail mail
Hi! I've read the documentation but I can't find what I'm looking for. mailq lists the mail waiting to be sent, but is there a command that says Send all waiting mail NOW! ? runq :-) -- p.
Re: Filenames vfat-fs
Matthias Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win95 -t vfat It seems to be with no problems. But in each win95 is a directory named Program Files. I can't change in this dir, because it's a space in the filename. Have you tried escaping the space in the shell? Either of cd /mnt/win95/Program Files cd /mnt/win95/Program\ Files cd /mnt/win95/Program' 'Files should work unless there is a bug in the kernel's long filename support. -- Henning Makholm http://www.diku.dk/students/makholm
Montego sound setup
Can anyone point me to a doc that explains how to get sound support from a Turtle Beach Montego A3dXstream soundcard? I'm assuming a dedicated driver has yet to make it into the kernel, but I'm hoping I can get _some_ sound from it...Thanks. SJG
Problem booting for install
Ok, actually a friend of mine is having this problem. When he boots to the rescue disk, or uses the install batchfile with loadlin, he gets the LILO prompt, hits enter, sees a few lines of kernel messages and then his machine just reboots. He has an AMD K6 with an Award BIOS, a Western Digital 8 Gig as his primary master, a Maxtor 2 Gig as his primary slave, and a 24x CDROM as his secondary master. Any ideas?
