[Fwd: swapfile and more ram]

1999-05-02 Thread add|ct|on
"David B.Teague" wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 1 May 1999, add|ct|on wrote:
> 
> > my question is this: i'm soon to be getting more ram, and i was
> > wondering if there's a way to resize my swap to make use of it. i have
> > 16 ram now, and my swap partition is about 32 megs. is it possible to
> > make it bigger after i move up to 32-48 ram without messing with
> > partitions again? i'm a relative newbie to this so if you reply please
> > speak in simple terms . thanks!
> 
> Hi
> 
> I refer you to Oliver Elphick's response about disk repartitioning
> for more swap.
> 
> If you *need* more swap space, you can create a swap file. It will
> be slower than a swap partition (you are running things through
> the file system) but it works. It got me out of the woods.
> 
> Actually, man mkwap will tell you all you need to know. Write me
> back if you need to.
> 
> --David
> David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
>  useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
>  (I'm hoping this is all of the above!)
thank you for your help, david. it's appreciated, and was by for the
most useful response i received. if the man confuses me i'll be sure to
drop another line, thanks.


Re: .debs using /usr/local/

1999-05-02 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  2 May, John Hasler wrote about "Re: .debs using /usr/local/"
> Michael Stenner writes:
>> I though that, as a general policy, .debs didn't put anything in the
>> /usr/local/ tree.
> 
> I believe I recall reading that it is ok for packages to create empty
> directories under /usr/local.

>From the policy manual

3.1.2. Site-specific programs
-

 As mandated by the FSSTND no package should place any files in
 `/usr/local', either by putting them in the filesystem archive to be
 unpacked by `dpkg' or by manipulating them in their maintainer
 scripts.

 However, the package should create empty directories below
 `/usr/local' so that the system administrator knows where to place
 site-specific files. These directories should be removed on package
 removal if they are empty.
[]

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-
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Re: swapfile and more ram

1999-05-02 Thread David B.Teague


On Sat, 1 May 1999, add|ct|on wrote:

> my question is this: i'm soon to be getting more ram, and i was
> wondering if there's a way to resize my swap to make use of it. i have
> 16 ram now, and my swap partition is about 32 megs. is it possible to
> make it bigger after i move up to 32-48 ram without messing with
> partitions again? i'm a relative newbie to this so if you reply please
> speak in simple terms . thanks!

Hi

I refer you to Oliver Elphick's response about disk repartitioning
for more swap.

If you *need* more swap space, you can create a swap file. It will
be slower than a swap partition (you are running things through
the file system) but it works. It got me out of the woods. 

Actually, man mkwap will tell you all you need to know. Write me 
back if you need to.

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (I'm hoping this is all of the above!)



XKB + changing X font

1999-05-02 Thread Micha Feigin
How do I set scroll-lock to modelock and alt to mode-shift in .xmodmap
(i couldn't find them under xkeycaps, only mode-switch which seemd to
do the same as mode-shift but couldn't get it to do mode-lock).
also how do i get the extra charachters to work (hebrew). when i set
them up to output the right values i got nothing on screen with
mode-switch (including in netscape where i really need it for
searching).
i also tried under vim but  it also did nothing (the that where not
defined acted as if the character wasn't pressed those that where did
nothing, and those maped to english characters, others then the normal
ones gave the changed characters).

also, how do i change the default font under x (I am using enlightment)
so it can display hebrew headers?);

Thanx

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Re: .debs using /usr/local/

1999-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Michael Stenner writes:
> I though that, as a general policy, .debs didn't put anything in the
> /usr/local/ tree.

I believe I recall reading that it is ok for packages to create empty
directories under /usr/local.
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI


lilo problems

1999-05-02 Thread tf
hey all

I just expanded the 2.2.6 kernal into /usr/src.  I have only the base system 
installed, but am getting debs and 
throwing them into a windows directory.  among them was "make".  so I got to 
the "make menuconfig" step and I got 
an error (sorry can't remember which one).  I thought I'd find out what files I 
might be missing, so I shut down.  
When I cranked old betsy back up, lilo was unresponsive.  I used the rescue 
disk to reload lilo, but it would then 
only boot to my debian partition.  Nothing there works yet, really, so I wound 
up toggling my windows partition 
bootable. (and now can't even boot from the debian boot disk)  oh yeah, I did 
look at lilo.conf--but I wasn't sure  
what to put there.  

btw, I used tomsrtbt's (the micro distro) fdisk to toggle, and will also be 
able to get at lilo.conf from there too.. 
Hmm.  hda1 is windows, hda2 is swap, and hda3 is Linux.  Can anyone, ah, tell 
me what to write or do?

Of course, I have questions about other stuff too, but I don't want to get 
tiresome. [|:-)  (that's supposed to look 
like a guy wearing a hat)

-tf


Re: checking promiscuous mode

1999-05-02 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
Eugene Sevinian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, ppl,
> Does anybody know how to test whether the network card
> set to promiscuous mode. It is supposed to run it from
> cron.

Just last week I tried a little program called "ifstatus" on
Solaris. The program is designed to run from cron so that only if
an interface is in promiscuous mode, it will print out a warning
message. Here is a snippet from its manual page:

DESCRIPTION
 Ifstatus checks all network interfaces on  the  system,  and
 reports any that are in debug or promiscuous mode, which may
 be a sign of unauthorized access to the system.

You can get it from
 ftp://coast.cs.purdue.edu /pub/tools/unix/ifstatus/

When you compile it for Linux you need to edit Makefile like this:

-- cut here 

--- Makefile.orig   Mon Sep 21 14:38:43 1998
+++ MakefileMon May  3 00:33:03 1999
@@ -43,8 +43,8 @@
 #  SUNOS55 -lkvm -lelf -lnsl -lsocket
 #  SUNOS56 -lkvm -lelf -lnsl -lsocket
 #
-OSNAME=SUNOS55
-LIBS=  -lkvm -lelf -lnsl -lsocket
+OSNAME=BSD
+LIBS=# -lkvm -lelf -lnsl -lsocket
 
 #
 # Change BINDIR, MANDIR, and MANSUF if you want.  They are used with the

-- cut here 

That is, change SUNOS55 to BSD and comment out any libraries.

> Thanks,

No problem.

> Eugene Sevinian

// Heikki
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Re: default run levels

1999-05-02 Thread Bernd Mayer


"Chad A. Adlawan" schrieb:
> 
> hi !
>   i was just wondering, what exactly will happen if i change the default run
> level specified in /etc/inittab from init 2 to init 3, or 4, or 5 ?
> TIA,
> Chad

hello Chad,

AFAIK they are identical. But you may adapt them if you need different
ones.

good luck

Bernd Mayer


Re: default run levels

1999-05-02 Thread David Z. Maze
Chad A Adlawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
CAA> i was just wondering, what exactly will happen if i change the
CAA> default run level specified in /etc/inittab from init 2 to init
CAA> 3, or 4, or 5 ?

Runlevels 2 and 3 are equivalent, as are 4 and 5, but the latter pair
only runs getty on tty1.  You can control what gets run at which
runlevel by changing /etc/inittab and by changing the symlinks in
/etc/rc?.d; see /usr/doc/sysvinit/README.runlevels.gz for more
information.

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Re: ? using "make-kpkg" for modules ?

1999-05-02 Thread David Z. Maze
rich  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
rich> Today I tried to set up module support for my kernel and
rich> "modulize" a bunch of stuff, and I'm having some
rich> problems. First, from reading the
rich> /usr/doc/kernel-source-2.2.1/debian.README file, I thought that
rich> 'make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.5 kernel_image' was supposed to
rich> take care of the modules. So I did that, installed the .deb
rich> package, and rebooted.  Now printing works (I'm pretty sure that
rich> lp should be a module now), pon works (same for ppp support) but
rich> sound does not.

rich> Here is what my /proc/modules file says:
rich> sound  54484   0 (autoclean) (unused)
rich> soundlow 208   0 (autoclean) [sound]
rich> soundcore   2084   3 (autoclean) [sound]

You need to do some tweaking to get sound support to work properly as
a module.  If you don't do anything special, a read request on
/dev/audio tells the kernel to try to get sound support, so it loads
the 'sound' module.  Since there's no module installed that can
provide actual audio data, the read fails.

My /etc/modutils/sound contains:

post-install soundcore modprobe -ks sb
post-install sb modprobe -ks adlib_card
options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
options adlib_card io=0x388

This has modprobe install the sb module when the kernel loads the
soundcore module, and then loads the adlib_card module after that.  It 
also specifies correct I/O, IRQ, and DMA information for the modules,
which is essential for them to work correctly.

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.debs using /usr/local/

1999-05-02 Thread Michael Stenner
I though that, as a general policy, .debs didn't put anything in the
/usr/local/ tree.   However, I'm pretty (i.e. 99%) sure that in my slink
r0 install, a few things were put in there - some python, tex, and emacs
things, actually.  Anyone know anything about this?  Am I just nuts?

-Michael

  Michael Stenner   Office Phone: 919-660-2513
  Duke University, Dept. of Physics   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Box 90305, Durham N.C. 27708-0305


? using "make-kpkg" for modules ?

1999-05-02 Thread rich
Hello all,

I have compiled my kernel using 'make-kpkg' before and found it
relatively painless - as long as I didn't use modules.. Today I tried to
set up module support for my kernel and "modulize" a bunch of stuff, and
I'm having some problems. First, from reading the
/usr/doc/kernel-source-2.2.1/debian.README file, I thought that
'make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.5 kernel_image' was supposed to take care
of the modules. So I did that, installed the .deb package, and rebooted.
Now printing works (I'm pretty sure that lp should be a module now), pon
works (same for ppp support) but sound does not. So I see elsewhere
buried in the documentation that you're also supposed to do 'make-kpkg
--revision=custom.1.5 module_image' I did that, and it spent a couple of
minutes going through the routine, but no modules .deb package was
created (that I could find...). Now if I try that command again, it goes
through a very quick program listing and stops as if it's done... but
still no .deb package... My kernel IS smaller by a couple hundred bytes
now...

Here is what my /proc/modules file says:
ppp_deflate38516   0 (autoclean)
sound  54484   0 (autoclean) (unused)
soundlow 208   0 (autoclean) [sound]
soundcore   2084   3 (autoclean) [sound]
bsd_comp3468   0
ppp17712   2 [ppp_deflate bsd_comp]
slhc4136   1 [ppp]
lp  4268   0 (unused)


What am I doing wrong here?

Thanks in advance...

Rich


compiling and packaging vim

1999-05-02 Thread Micha Feigin
I compiled vim ver 5.4h for my computer (i needed the hebrew support),
only it made only vim without gvim.
When i run vim -g i get the graphical interface.
How do i make gvim itself?
It also gives me a message when run under rxvt:
'rxvt'not known. Known terminals are:
GUI
ansi
xterm
...

defaulting to ansi.

Any way to solve this?

Also on the debian package i saw that it was compiled wtih a -DDEBIAN
flag. Is it important, and if so, how do i use it?

And last, how do i package it, so it can be installed and removed
easily (mainly removed when the time comes)?
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Test -

1999-05-02 Thread Bob Goodwin
This is the only way I could figure to transfer my address files to
Linux.

Sorry about that ...


Re: X, netscape

1999-05-02 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 1999-05-02 14:47, Anonymous Coward wrote:

> now i am getting very, very annoyed.  with all the talk about how stable
> etc. debian is then i try it and all the claims are invalid.

I would like to point out that mozilla is just one package out of the
2500+ debian packages available.  You are of course free to draw any
conclusion you want.

> first with the default everything on X etc. mozilla comes up with
> errors (actually they are X errors, like "error invalid ButtonX
> call" etc. you get the idea).  on mozilla also i can not hit enter
> in the location box to goto a page, i must do file:open.  so then i
> use dselect to get a newer version of navigator to see if it'll
> solve the problems i find out i have to d/l the archive i do that (
> i d/led ver. 4.51) and installed it etc. only to get an error about
> missing libraries when netscape starts up

Communicator is made available by Netscape and they choose to depend
on certain libraries.  You're probably missing the xpm4.7 package
(well documented in the mailing list archives at http://www.debian.org).


/Allan

P.S. I will advise a positive attitude for maxium support from the
 Debian community.
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Re: X, netscape

1999-05-02 Thread Horvath Robert
On Sun, 2 May 1999, Anonymous Coward wrote:
Hi,
All I can say to you is to calm down and download the glibc2 version of
netscape then you won't get those library problms.
By the way Debian is a very good distribution. But it's a little bit hard
to get started with it. Don't worry it is extremely stable. I have been
running it for five months and not one crash!

Good luck
Robert

> now i am getting very, very annoyed.  with all the talk about how stable
> etc. debian is then i try it and all the claims are invalid.  first with
> the default everything on X etc. mozilla comes up with errors (actually
> they are X errors, like "error invalid ButtonX call" etc. you get the
> idea).  on mozilla also i can not hit enter in the location box to goto
> a page, i must do file:open.  so then i use dselect to get a newer
> version of navigator to see if it'll solve the problems i find out i
> have to d/l the archive i do that ( i d/led ver. 4.51) and installed it
> etc. only to get an error about missing libraries when netscape starts
> up i've had library errors on the other distro's so this was one
> reason i wanted to try debian.  from expierence i know that ldconfig
> sometimes works although i have no idea why (it worked on SuSE one time
> when i upgraded GTK).  is this a normal thing on slink (an official
> CD-ROM ordered from cheapbytes)?  will upgrading X help?  man how do i
> fix these errors?  man without netscape linux really is useless for a
> home user
> 
> 
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Re: X, netscape

1999-05-02 Thread Ed Cogburn
Anonymous Coward wrote:
> 
> now i am getting very, very annoyed.  with all the talk about how stable
> etc. debian is then i try it and all the claims are invalid.  first with
> the default everything on X etc. mozilla comes up with errors (actually
> they are X errors, like "error invalid ButtonX call" etc. you get the
> idea).  on mozilla also i can not hit enter in the location box to goto


How stable Debian is depends largely on the kind of software you
use. Debian as a server OS (without any of the end-user type of
software) is very stable.  You are attempting to use software that
is either still under heavy development and *not* ready for
primetime (Mozilla) or is known to have problems that haven't been
fixed by the commercial owner (Netscape).


> a page, i must do file:open.  so then i use dselect to get a newer
> version of navigator to see if it'll solve the problems i find out i
> have to d/l the archive i do that ( i d/led ver. 4.51) and installed it
> etc. only to get an error about missing libraries when netscape starts
> up i've had library errors on the other distro's so this was one
> reason i wanted to try debian.  from expierence i know that ldconfig
> sometimes works although i have no idea why (it worked on SuSE one time
> when i upgraded GTK).  is this a normal thing on slink (an official
> CD-ROM ordered from cheapbytes)?  will upgrading X help?  man how do i
> fix these errors?  man without netscape linux really is useless for a
> home user


Most distros, I suspect, don't install the old libc5 library by
default.  Either use the Debianized package of Netscape from slink
(maybe only potato?) which is libc6, or download the libc6 version
from ftp.netscape.com ('unsupported' dir tree, and use the old
netscape4 installer), or install the libc5 stuff from the oldlibs
section in dselect (libc5, xlib6, xpm4.7) to get the libc5 version
you already have working.
Using the Debianized package is strongly encouraged.  It isn't
easy, though, because of a number of 'base' packages that need to
be installed first.  Select the package which has the Netscape
binary (communicator-smotif-451, for example) and use the
subsequent dependency screen to select the other packages that are
needed.


-- 
Ed C.


Re: X, netscape

1999-05-02 Thread dyer
Anonymous Coward wrote:



> now i am getting very, very annoyed.  with all the talk about how stable
> etc. debian is then i try it and all the claims are invalid



you are absolutely right and should switch to RedHat.

--

dyer




Re: X, netscape

1999-05-02 Thread Havoc Pennington

You almost certainly broke something. Netscape works fine on several
different systems here. In fact it works great because of the magic
wrapper scripts Debian installs.

I suggest reading:

http://www.debian.org/~hp/tutorial/debian-tutorial.html/ch-docs.html#s-docs-support

then asking again. In particular, include the *exact error messages* 
and the dpkg --status output for relevant packages (e.g. Netscape).
Without these details all we can say is "works for us." 

Havoc




Re: X, netscape

1999-05-02 Thread Illo de' Illis
On Sun, May 02, 1999 at 02:47:09PM -0400, Anonymous Coward wrote:
> man without netscape linux really is useless for a
> home user

# apt-get install lynx

Ciao,
Illo.

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The views expressed above are entirely mine and do not represent the views,
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X, netscape

1999-05-02 Thread Anonymous Coward
now i am getting very, very annoyed.  with all the talk about how stable
etc. debian is then i try it and all the claims are invalid.  first with
the default everything on X etc. mozilla comes up with errors (actually
they are X errors, like "error invalid ButtonX call" etc. you get the
idea).  on mozilla also i can not hit enter in the location box to goto
a page, i must do file:open.  so then i use dselect to get a newer
version of navigator to see if it'll solve the problems i find out i
have to d/l the archive i do that ( i d/led ver. 4.51) and installed it
etc. only to get an error about missing libraries when netscape starts
up i've had library errors on the other distro's so this was one
reason i wanted to try debian.  from expierence i know that ldconfig
sometimes works although i have no idea why (it worked on SuSE one time
when i upgraded GTK).  is this a normal thing on slink (an official
CD-ROM ordered from cheapbytes)?  will upgrading X help?  man how do i
fix these errors?  man without netscape linux really is useless for a
home user


default run levels

1999-05-02 Thread Chad A. Adlawan
hi !
  i was just wondering, what exactly will happen if i change the default run
level specified in /etc/inittab from init 2 to init 3, or 4, or 5 ?
TIA,
Chad


PPP and masquerading

1999-05-02 Thread ferret


Yeah, I ran into this same problem while changing my gateway over from one
machine to another. I had forgotten to take out the default route on the
NEW masquerade system, so PPP didn't set the default route. But I was
getting 'Permission denied' errors from my ISP's nameserver from the
masquerade machine. Manually replacing the default route and restarting
ipmasq did not solve anything. Rebooting the entire network fixed it.
Also, interestingly enough, I upgraded the old gateway to kernel 2.2.4 to
use the video framebuffer, did not compile in anything other than basic
networking, and REMOVED the ipmasq and port forwarding packages. Turned
out I had forgotten to update the default gateway on my single windows
machine, so it was still sending to the old gateway. Well, it's STILL
connecting to the external network quite fine. Why?


On Sun, 2 May 1999, Ove Kaaven wrote:

> 
> On Sun, 2 May 1999, Johnny Thompson wrote:
> 
> > SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument <- I think this may be my problem
> 
> > Initializing IP Masquerading...done.
>   ^^ I think this may be your problem...
> the ipmasq package installs firewall rules
> 
> > PING 202.239.113.26 (202.239.113.26): 56 data bytes
> > ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
> > ping: wrote 202.239.113.26 64 chars, ret=-1
> 
> the firewall does not permit you to ping through the ppp interface
> 
> Purge and reinstall the ipmasq package, then answer "yes" to whether it
> should recompute firewall rules when PPP link is up (or touch
> /etc/ipmasq/ppp, which does the same, I think)
> 
> 
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PGP with netscape

1999-05-02 Thread Philip Thiem
In the past I have always used netscape for email, pgp for encyrption. 
And I have manually encrypted the email, and attached it to a message in
netscape.  I'm getting tried of this a 
bit, and I would like to know if there a plugin or program that would
better intergrate the two under linux?BTW: I'm using PGP 2.6.3a

Philip Thiem 
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Re: Recommendation for best Linux book

1999-05-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
So, its just another name for host? Talk about name polution ;-)

On Sun, 2 May 1999, John Galt wrote:

> 
> Package: dnsutils 1:8.1.2-6
> 
> Utilities for querying the DNS
> 
> This package includes the "nslookup", "dig", and "host" programs for
> querying information from the Domain
> Name System (DNS). It also includes several short aliases (mx, ns, soa,
> zone, ) for querying specific
> information. 
> 
> Looks like it's alredy there
> 
> On Sat, 1 May 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Joey Hess wrote:
> > 
> > > Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > > > copies of my latest efforts. The book is called "Linux Volume 1: ac to
> > > > zcat, the basics"
> > > 
> > > acat? What happened to ? :-)
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > see shy jo, who was amused to discover  last week.
> > 
> > Tell me more! What does it do? Where do I find it? Are you going to
> > package it?
> > 
> > Waiting is,
> > 
> > Dwarf
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> > 
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> 
> 
> 

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Re: who does something about the advertising ?

1999-05-02 Thread ivan
On Sun, May 02, 1999 at 11:37:15AM -0400,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
> On Sat, 1 May 1999, William R Pentney wrote:
> 
> > I would hope that :
> > 
> > 1) the proper complaints are made - is someone reading the headers
> >and complaining to the right people?
> > 
> > 2) the advertising policy is enforced. It'd be difficult, but it
> >might scare the bilker scum into leaving us alone.
> 
>  I'd be happy to contribute to the legal fund for such a case (over and
> above the contributions to Debian I've already made). :->

Put me on the (financial) donor list - if everyone a) made the pledge
&& b) kept the pledge; the individual commitment would be, IMHO, reasonably
low.

Regardless of cost ... count me in !

Ivan.
(again :))

> 
>  Sincerely,
> 
>  Ray Ingles   (248) 377-7735   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
>  "Una saus victus nullam sperare salutem." - The one hope of the damned
>is not to hope for safety.
> 


Re: Download NEW Internet Radio Tuner

1999-05-02 Thread ivan
On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 10:38:19PM -0700, Maria Cantwell wrote:


All of the text that appeared in the original mail has
been included (unedited) in correct order and appears as quoted
text ( prefaced by '>' )


MARIA CANTWELL - PLEASE NOTE THE CC: ... Any interesting
comments made by those on the mailing list cc'ed will be
forwarded to you and your comments in response to this
document as well as other discussion will be forwarded to
that list.

ALL READERS - Do not trust my judgement of what is interesting
and what is not ... cc: all comments to RealNetworks so that
they, at least, are kept aware of the feelings of Debian
users.  Comments cc'ed to RN obviously, will not also be
forwarded by me :)


> 
> ABOUT THIS E-MAIL
> 
> You are receiving this email because you downloaded our 
> RealPlayer and indicated a preference to receive product 
> news, updates and special offers from RealNetworks.

Yes I did - maybe I wasn't being too clever at the time :)

> 
> To remove your name from future email communications, 
> simply visit the following URL and click on the Remove 
> button:  http://ml.real.com/ml/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I may just have to do that ... READ ON ...

> 
> 
> 
> Dear RealPlayer Customer, 
> 
> Did you know that there are over 1,600 radio and TV stations 
> broadcasting live in RealAudio and RealVideo? The only 
> hard part is finding all of them.

Yes I do know !  No it's not ... READ ON ...

> 
> With vTuner Plus, you have instant access to more than 1,600 
> radio and TV stations from around the world.

Oh really ? ... READ ON ...

>Try it now from 
> RealNetworks for only $14.95, a savings of $15. 

I'll play your game ... I accept that a special offer made exclusively
to _every_ user who asked for updates is truly exclusive ... READ ON ...

> 
> "Absolutely fantastic! ...  Before I discovered vTuner I 
> had to find stations one at a time." - Jade Jones, vTuner Customer

Jade,  I'm pleased you had such success with this product ... would
you mind confirming (just for my information ) that you use a Linux
kernel based system and explain exactly how you managed to install
this product ?  I use Linux and have been completely unable to get
this product to work

> 
> ==> http://www.realstore.com/specials/tuning.html

OHH ... I see ... this product isn't actually ready for
release to the General Public.  Presumably you, Maria, meant to
explain that you are advising that a beta release (binary only)
is available for testing before _the_company_that_employs_you_ is
prepared to release final sources and binaries ?   A ...
I get it now ... you don't plan on allowing _knowledgable_ users
access to this program until it is _reasonably_ perfect ... READ ON ... 

> 
> Here's how it works: 
> 
> · vTuner Plus is an amazing software application that seamlessly 
>   integrates with your RealPlayer, and organizes all the stations 
>   into one place on your desktop.

Great idea - wish I'd thought of it so _I_ could sell it to _you_ :)
... READ ON ...

> 
> · A single click gives you instant access to any station: 
>   hear cutting-edge tunes from the UK, LA or NYC; follow your 
>   favorite sports teams live on the air; or watch breaking news 
>   from around the world. 

Well I'll be blowed !!!  This, when it is available to *nix users,
is the only product that allows _single_ click access to _anything ...
even accessing vi requires _two_ clicks ( _v_ && _i_ )
... READ ON ...

> 
> · With vTuner, you're the DJ and the program director. You 
>   can create your own favorite groups of stations for quick 
>   access... even add new stations that you find over the Web. 

What ???  I understood, from your following paragraph, that vTuner
eliminated all of this stupid "search ... find ... bookmark ..."
carry-on ? ... READ ON 

> 
> · Listings are updated daily and rated for reliability, sound, 
>   speed, web site, and best overall stations -- so you are always 
>   ensured of the best stations and the most offerings.
> 
> We invite you to download vTuner today for only $14.95 at no 
> risk, and discover the wide world of Web entertainment that's 
> waiting for you. 
> 
> ==> http://www.realstore.com/specials/tuning.html

Ummm  I didn't see a *nix version that's available - I assume
that the continued support of your product is _so_ important that
the support even of those of us who use your product maybe twice a year
is essential to the financial well-being of the company ?

Quick Maria !  Sue that person that suggested that RealNetworks
is financially unsound and is totally reliant on selling unreliable
product to an unknowledgable market.  Sorry - I didn't archive
a copy of that message - wish I could help ... READ ON 

> 
> Thank you for continuing to use RealNetworks products. 

You're very welcome ... I greatly wish that I had more opportunity
to explore this "bra

Re: anyone get voodoo3 to work correctly on debian box?

1999-05-02 Thread Eric
I just got my voodoo3 a few days ago.  Actualy, alien converts the
xserver stuff very well because the package is quite simple, and it
runs well.  Just make sure you uninstall the Debian xserver-svga and
xf86setup before you install the voodoo accelerated ones.

Now if only the voodoo3 glide drivers would get ported...  :(

Eric.

On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 03:58:42PM -0400, Bosco Rage wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
>I really, really like the debian distro and am plannin to get a voodoo3 
> very soon.  I've been looking around and have noticed a beta X  server for 
> the voodoo3 but it's in rpms :( I think i can use alien to convert to .deb 
> but this isn't totally error free is it?
> 
>If anyone has gotten this card to work successfully or have tried,
> I am looking forward to any response.
> 
> thank you.

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Re: who does something about the advertising ?

1999-05-02 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Sat, 1 May 1999, William R Pentney wrote:

> I would hope that :
> 
> 1) the proper complaints are made - is someone reading the headers
>and complaining to the right people?
> 
> 2) the advertising policy is enforced. It'd be difficult, but it
>might scare the bilker scum into leaving us alone.

 I'd be happy to contribute to the legal fund for such a case (over and
above the contributions to Debian I've already made). :->

 Sincerely,

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Re: windowmaker

1999-05-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
KDE and GNOME support
-

Since 0.51.0-3 there are two additional pacakges, wmaker-gnome and
wmaker-kde.  They install:

/usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker-gnome [30]
/usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker-kde   [20]

They are registered with Debian's alternatives system (the numbers in
brackets are the priorities used -- GNOME is in Debian, KDE is not)

PLEASE NOTE: I don't use GNOME and I don't use KDE.  That should give
you a hint as how wonderfully tested the packages are.  I'm providing
them because some people have asked me to.  If you submit a bug
related to either GNOME or KDE support, PLEASE use the proper Package:
field.  You have been warned.

The KDE package is compiled with --enable-kde --enable-lite.  I won't
make a wmaker-kde-lite package.  If -lite doesn't work properly,
please let me know.  But please keep in mind: wmaker-kde is meant to
_replace_ kwm, if --enable-lite is not used, KDE users will have a
very hard time.  (If you just want to use some KDE apps, I think you
better use the normal wmaker package)

| Hints (information given by applications to integrate well with the window
| manager) for Motif(tm), OPEN LOOK(tm), KDE and GNOME are also supported. 
| So you can replace any of the window managers for these environments with
| Window Maker while keeping most, if not all, of the native window manager
| functionality.

(that's from /usr/doc/wmaker/README.gz)

>From Window Maker's NEWS file (/usr/doc/wmaker/NEWS.gz)

--- 0.50.0


KDE and GNOME
-

Added full support for GNOME and KWM hints. 
Read the INSTALL file to see how enable them.

Everything in the so called GNOME window manager bla bla bla pseudo-spec is
implemented.

As for KDE stuff, it implements 90% of everything kwm does, adds some
Window Maker specific extensions to it and still uses half of the memory
kwm does, which should be enough to let you dump kwm ;) For details on what
exactly is implemented, see comments in src/kwm.c Read the README.KDE file 
for more information.


WARNING: Some KDE hints are badly designed, so doing things like using
kpanel's desktop switcher/pager and Window Maker's internal workspace
management functions to create, destroy and rename workspaces at the same 
time might cause unknown effects. To be on the safe side, only
use either of them to manage workspaces. Switching workspaces is hopefully,
safe, so you can switch workspaces from wherever you want.



Marcelo


nis don´t work properly

1999-05-02 Thread Per-Olof Widstrom


 ( I posted this letter yesterday, and it didn´t make it 
to the list, so I´m trying again, if is not my intention
to flood this list)

I have been trying for a whole day to get nis to work, but it will not. I
have a minimal LAN with two computers. They both are running slink; the
server has been upgraded from hamm (2.0).

 I have managed to make ypcat work, it is also possible to finger. But
when I try to login on the nis-client with my user pow the xconsole window
tells me:
 
 May  1 17:06:21 lazy login[571]: no shadow password for `pow' on `ttyp2' 
 May  1 17:06:23 lazy login[571]: invalid password for `pow' on `ttyp2' 
 
 I have no idea why, I have tried many things. On the nis-server in
/var/yp I have done 'make' 'make passwd' 'make group' 'make shadow'
'make', I still don´t get it to work. 

When I was ready to give up I changed the password for pow on the
nis-client with yppasswd, then it worked, and I could change it on to
server to with out any problems. But that isn´t necessary in a working
system, is it? 
 I have added +:: in passwd, + in shadow and +::: in group and
in /var/yp/nicknames I´ve added 'shadow   shadow.byname', just in case. I
have done Somme on both the nis-client and the nis-server.

 If I restart the nis-server the console on the nis-client print out this
message: 
 May  1 18:42:27 lazy icmplogd: destination unreachable from
supreme.pow.com [192.0.0.7]
 I don't know why, after all ypcat works, as well as finger.

 The nis-client name is lazy and the server is supreme (but right now I
don´t think that it is so very great).


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Re: unresolved(able?) gnome install problems

1999-05-02 Thread David Z. Maze
Allen B Riddell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
ABR> I'm using apt-get (with ftp.us.debian.org unstable main contrib
ABR> non-free) and trying to install gnome, but nothing seems to be
ABR> working.

When I installed it last night, some of the crucial pieces were still
sitting in the 'Incoming' directory, waiting to be placed into the
archive.  Waiting another day or two to let the archive install
everything would probably help.  Or you can try to pick out the
relevant pieces from your favorite Incoming mirror and get it to
install.

ABR> Assuming I'm staying with a binary distribution, is the only way
ABR> to get gnome working by using RPM? Is that safe with debian, or
ABR> will it screw up the wonderful world of dselect which made me
ABR> convert from Redhat?

I suppose you *could* use alien to convert the GNOME RPMs into Debian
packages, but the official Debian packages were just released into
unstable... :-)  It also stands a good chance of confusing other
GNOME-aware applications you might try to install.

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Re: Bootdisking

1999-05-02 Thread Christian van Enckevort
Hi,

I do not know too much about this myself, but I have been able to create a
customized root/boot disk pair using Yard
(http://www.croftj.net/~fawcett/yard/). This consists of a set of perl
scripts that automate most of the process. I also needed the 
yard-1.17-patch1 (available from the same web page) to be able to use
kernel modules.

Good luck,

Christian van Enckevort


Re: Fw: PPP is HOAXED!

1999-05-02 Thread Ove Kaaven

On Sun, 2 May 1999, Johnny Thompson wrote:

> SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument <- I think this may be my problem

> Initializing IP Masquerading...done.
  ^^ I think this may be your problem...
the ipmasq package installs firewall rules

> PING 202.239.113.26 (202.239.113.26): 56 data bytes
> ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
> ping: wrote 202.239.113.26 64 chars, ret=-1

the firewall does not permit you to ping through the ppp interface

Purge and reinstall the ipmasq package, then answer "yes" to whether it
should recompute firewall rules when PPP link is up (or touch
/etc/ipmasq/ppp, which does the same, I think)


Re[2]: Fax software

1999-05-02 Thread Phillip Deackes
"Damir J. Naden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> My choice is efax, which requires very small part of the HD, and it
> does send
> faxes OK. It is a command line based, but I can send my faxes directly
> from
> within lyx with it. Don't know about other modems, but for me it works
> well
> with internal USR Sportster 33.3 flash upgraded to 56k.
> 
I agree - I too use efax. You can easily send a fax from the command
line. The following line will prepare a previously printed-to-file
postscript document for faxing and will call the document 'letter.00x':

gs -q -sDEVICE=tiffg3 -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=letter.%03d input.file.ps


Re: Printer stopped working with Kernel 2.2

1999-05-02 Thread Frank Barknecht
Wayne Topa hat gesagt: // Wayne Topa wrote:

> In reply to:Frank Barknecht
> 
> Have you changed /etc/printcap entries to reflect the change from
> lp1, as used in the 2.0.34 Kernel, to the lp0 used in the 2.2.x
> kernels?

Yes. 

> 
> Quoting Frank Barknecht([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I upgraded from kernel 2.0.34 to kernel 2.2.4 which came on my
> > Debian-CDs.  Now printing has stopped. I compiled lp and parport
> > as modules, changed the printcap to point to /dev/lp0 instead of
> > lp1. 
> > [...]
> > I did not change the formerly working lpd setup in other places except
> > the lp-device number:
> > 
> > # printcap
> > lp|nec|nec|Nec Silentwri:\
> > :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/nec:\
> > :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
> > :if=/usr/sbin/psonly300-filter:\
> > :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
> > 
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Re: basic question on splitting partitions

1999-05-02 Thread homega
~> I have a 3.2 GB hard drive and 16-bit addressing, so it's partitioned
~> into a C drive of about 2 GB and a D drive for the rest of the space.
~> I'd like to keep Windows 95 on the C drive while I work on installing
~> Linux on D.
~> 
~> >From reading the installation instructions it sounded like I should
~> create a Swap partition within "D."  So I created a system floppy with
~> the FIPS directory on it.  Upon execution it displayed the partition
~> table showing partition 1 consisting of 2047 MB and partition 2
~> consisting of 1047 MB.  It asked which partition to split, and I chose
~> "2."  The resulting error message said:  "Can't split extended
~> partitions.  FIPS can not yet split extended DOS partitions."

I'm not sure if there's something I'm misunderstanding here... you
already have your HDD partitioned into two, and you have windoze
installed into it (which you want to keep).  If that's correct, I can't
see what you need fips for (unless you want to reclaim some space from
your first partition).

All you have to do is move any data from d: to c:, leaving thus the
second partition empty, and then install Linux in the second partition.
The Linux setup will take you through the right steps (including
repartitioning the second drive to create both Linux swap part. and
Linux native part.)

Regards

Horacio
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Harddisk troubles

1999-05-02 Thread Robert-Jan Kuijvenhoven
Hi all,

Yesterday I rebuild my kernel for the first time in my life. Compiling the 
kernel went very smooth when I rebooted my system it ran perfectly. I was very 
happy.However, today I booted my system and trouble started.

The system gave a message that the filesystem had not been unmounted properly 
and that a check was forced (I did shutdown the system using shutdown -h the 
day before). After checking the filesystem linux told me that the filesystem 
was mounted read-only and that I had to run fsck manualy. I did that and I let 
fsck fix some problems.

Now I can start the system, X/kde also starts, but I can not start any programs 
in X. The desktop also stays empty.

Could there be a connection between this problem and the kernel rebuild, or is 
this just a coincidence? To be on the safe side, I have booted my old kernel 
now. I do not think I made a lot of filesystem changes in the new kernel.

How can I restore the X system, so that my desktop returns and I can start X 
programs again?

Thanks very much,

Robert-Jan 


installin KDE

1999-05-02 Thread Arjen
Hello,
I want to install KDE on my comp. only if i want to use Dselect, i get the
message that it can't find the file "packages.gz". The files have all the
extension *.deb. Do i need to get other files (*.rpm, *.tar) or is there a
way to install them without that file packages.gz needed.
I have Debian 2.1 installed.
Please help me.

Arjen


Re: Recommendation for best Linux book

1999-05-02 Thread John Galt

Package: dnsutils 1:8.1.2-6

Utilities for querying the DNS

This package includes the "nslookup", "dig", and "host" programs for
querying information from the Domain
Name System (DNS). It also includes several short aliases (mx, ns, soa,
zone, ) for querying specific
information. 

Looks like it's alredy there

On Sat, 1 May 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> > Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > > copies of my latest efforts. The book is called "Linux Volume 1: ac to
> > > zcat, the basics"
> > 
> > acat? What happened to ? :-)
> > 
> > -- 
> > see shy jo, who was amused to discover  last week.
> 
> Tell me more! What does it do? Where do I find it? Are you going to
> package it?
> 
> Waiting is,
> 
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ange-ftp with ssh-tunnel?

1999-05-02 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi,

since I don't like passwords be transmitted in plain text I'd like
the ange-ftp facility of Emacs I'd like to use an ssh tunnel for the
command connection of FTP.

Has somebody gotten this to work?

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Gateway 2000 solo 2500se

1999-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sun, 2 May 1999 18:29:06 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

>Why not just "ifconfig ..."? That's what I do.

Easier this way than trying to remember the syntax for ifconfig.  'sides,
I have a script to spew out all of the network/netmask/ip/broadcast, etc
information based on just an IP and CIDR.

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Re: Gateway 2000 solo 2500se

1999-05-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, May 02, 1999 at 12:12:34AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Well, I can't speak for the Gateway series, but anything that is pcmcia,
> by definition, is hot swapable.  My network card and 14.4k modem work fine
> and I swap them in and out all the time.  In fact, the NIC is nice that way. 
> I change the settings in the network.opts file, pop it out, pop it back in,
> tada, new network.  Great for testing those customer networks in a flash.

Why not just "ifconfig ..."? That's what I do.

Hamish
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Re: Gateway 2000 solo 2500se

1999-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sat, 1 May 1999 17:45:14 -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote:

>Anyone with any series on the solo 2500 series from gateway, could you get
>back to me? Thanks in advance!

Well, I can't speak for the Gateway series, but anything that is pcmcia,
by definition, is hot swapable.  My network card and 14.4k modem work fine
and I swap them in and out all the time.  In fact, the NIC is nice that way. 
I change the settings in the network.opts file, pop it out, pop it back in,
tada, new network.  Great for testing those customer networks in a flash.

It looks like the pcmcia tools does have a configuration for cdroms.  I
didn't see anything about floppies, so I'm not too entirely sure about that
one.

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Gateway 2000 solo 2500se

1999-05-02 Thread Aaron Van Couwenberghe
I'm looking into getting a gateway laptop.

One thing I'm very leery of, however, is that both the CD-ROM drive and
floppy are hot-swappable PCMCIA. I've directed an inquiry at gateway's
techies about whether Linux will run on the thing, but I'd also like to ask
the debian audience.

Anyone with any series on the solo 2500 series from gateway, could you get
back to me? Thanks in advance!

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Re: basic question on splitting partitions

1999-05-02 Thread Oliver Elphick
Peter Christensen wrote:
  >Sorry if this question is too basic.  I've been following several
  >newsgroups for a while and haven't seen this situation addressed.
  >
  >I have a 3.2 GB hard drive and 16-bit addressing, so it's partitioned
  >into a C drive of about 2 GB and a D drive for the rest of the space.
  >I'd like to keep Windows 95 on the C drive while I work on installing
  >Linux on D.
  >
  >>From reading the installation instructions it sounded like I should
  >create a Swap partition within "D."  So I created a system floppy with
  >the FIPS directory on it.  Upon execution it displayed the partition
  >table showing partition 1 consisting of 2047 MB and partition 2
  >consisting of 1047 MB.  It asked which partition to split, and I chose
  >"2."  The resulting error message said:  "Can't split extended
  >partitions.  FIPS can not yet split extended DOS partitions."
  >
  >What should I do?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
Why not just delete the D partition?  When you install Debian, it will
give you the opportunity to repartition the free space; you can make
a swap partition then.

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Fw: PPP is HOAXED!

1999-05-02 Thread Johnny Thompson



- Original Message - 
From: Johnny Thompson 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 1999 2:04 PM
Subject: PPP is HOAXED!

To all who receive this,I have a big 
problem. I have a dialup account to usonet.ne.jp and my stuffwon't work 
after I've installed kernel 2.2.6. I'm pretty sure it's thekernel but the 
worse part is when I boot into kernel 2.0.36 stuff stilldoesn't work! I 
don't know what to do now because I've tried everything Iknow..This is 
Debian 2.1 and I really need help. I don't know what's going on. Ican't send 
or receive anything on my modem and if it helps, I don't have a/dev/ppp 
anything. I have an externel modem and the SD or RD (send data andreceieve 
data) lights don't blink @ all. I can connect to the net fine, myppp script 
is fine (I think) because It worked right before I installed thenew kernel 
but once I'm logged in, nothing works!   I don't know what elseto 
do.  All my other system configuration stuff is the same as it was.  I 
amwilling to re-install if that will help, but I think it's not 
workingbecause of the new kernel compilation.  I have not installed the 
kernel 2.2updates from debian.org because I can't get them off the net 
because pppshows the same error with default kernel.  If you can't help 
please forwardthis to anyone you may know who you think may be able to 
help.  If you needmore information please do not hesitate to 
relpy.--- This is what I get on bootup 
---Loading modules: ppp CSLIP: code copyright 1989 
Regents of the University ofCaliforniaPPP: version 2.3.3 (demand 
dialling)PPP line discipline registered.SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument 
<- I think this may be my problemInitializing IP 
Masquerading...done. When I start ppp ppp-go and try to 
ping a host 
--([EMAIL PROTECTED])(3/tty2)(12:33pm:05/02/99)-($:/root)- ping 
202.239.113.26PING 202.239.113.26 (202.239.113.26): 56 data bytesping: 
sendto: Operation not permittedping: wrote 202.239.113.26 64 chars, 
ret=-1ping: sendto: Operation not permittedping: wrote 202.239.113.26 64 
chars, ret=-1ping: sendto: Operation not permittedping: wrote 
202.239.113.26 64 chars, ret=-1--- 202.239.113.26 ping statistics ---3 
packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss--- 
What my syslog has to say May 2 12:33:00 crackhouse 
pppd[241]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 0f00> ]May 2 12:33:00 crackhouse pppd[241]: sent [IPCP ConfAck 
id=0x1 0f00> ]May 2 
12:33:00 crackhouse pppd[241]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 
210.163.154.231>]May 2 12:33:00 crackhouse pppd[241]: sent 
[IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 210.163.154.231> ]May 2 12:33:00 crackhouse pppd[241]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x3 80 fd 
01 01 000f 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f]May 2 12:33:00 crackhouse 
pppd[241]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 210.163.154.231> 
]May 2 12:33:00 crackhouse pppd[241]: local IP 
address 210.163.154.231May 2 12:33:00 crackhouse pppd[241]: remote IP 
address 210.136.198.196May 2 12:33:09 crackhouse named[154]: ns_forw: 
sendto([202.239.113.26].53):Operation not permittedMay 2 12:34:09 
crackhouse icmplogd: destination unreachable from 
crackhouse[127.0.0.1]- My ifconfig 
--([EMAIL PROTECTED])(35/tty2)(12:40pm:05/02/99)-($:/root)- 
ifconfiglo Link encap:Local Loopbackinet addr:127.0.0.1 
Mask:255.0.0.0UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1RX packets:5 errors:0 
dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 
carrier:0Collisions:0ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocolinet 
addr:210.163.154.231 P-t-P:210.136.198.196 Mask:255.255.255.255 
UPPOINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1RX packets:6 
errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 
overruns:0 carrier:0Collisions:0-- route 
-It just hangs @ this then prints outKernel IP 
routing tableDestination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use 
Iface /var/log/daemon.log -May 2 
12:30:23 crackhouse named[153]: Forwarding source address 
is[0.0.0.0].1024May 2 12:30:23 crackhouse named[154]: Ready to answer 
queries.May 2 12:30:26 crackhouse xntpd[204]: xntpd 3-5.93a Tue Aug 4 
00:44:47 MDT1998 (1)May 2 12:30:26 crackhouse xntpd[204]: tickadj = 5, 
tick = 1, tvu_maxslew=495, est. hz = 100May 2 12:30:26 
crackhouse xntpd[204]: precision = 12 usecMay 2 12:33:09 crackhouse 
named[154]: ns_forw: sendto([202.239.113.26].53):Operation not 
permittedMay 2 12:34:09 crackhouse icmplogd: destination unreachable from 
crackhouse[127.0.0.1]May 2 12:41:36 crackhouse icmplogd: destination 
unreachable from crackhouse[127.0.0.1]May 2 12:43:33 crackhouse 
icmplogd: destination unreachable from crackhouse[127.0.0.1]May 2 
12:44:18 crackhouse named[154]: ns_forw: 
sendto([202.239.113.26].53):Operation not permittedMay 2 12:45:18 
crackhouse icmplogd: destination unreachable from 
crackhouse[127.0.0.1]


Re: Fax software

1999-05-02 Thread William Park
On Sun, May 02, 1999 at 06:47:34AM -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
> I'm running a Debian 2.0-based system (with some newer packages
> installed as needed).  My CD-ROM contains these fax packages:
> 
>   1)Hylafax/tkhylafax
>   2)efax
>   3)mgetty-fax
> 
> I will primarily need software to *send* faxes, as I have set up an
> account with www.efax.com to receive them.  (I only have one phone
> line and my system isn't always turned on, so receiving faxes via my
> modem would be problematic.)
> 
> Which of the three programs/suites above do you folks recommend?  I
> don't need anything very elaborate, because I rarely have occasion to
> send a fax.  (Which is, of course, why I don't own a fax machine.)
> 
> Thanks for any help.  If desired, I can digest personal replies for
> the list, but that custom appears to be dying out.
> -- 
> Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy." 
>   -Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun

I have efax-0.8a, and used it to send text and postscript files.  I
chose it because it's small.

William


Re: does anyone know -

1999-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sat, 1 May 1999 22:42:20 -0800, mao jud wrote:

>what happened to freshmeat ?

In what regards?  Just checked and it is working fine here.

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does anyone know -

1999-05-02 Thread mao jud
what happened to freshmeat ?
tia,
mao


Re: IP forwarding for 2.2.x kernels

1999-05-02 Thread David H. Silber
On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 08:31:42PM -0700, Paul Nathan Puri wrote:
> On Sat, 01 May 1999 19:39:07 Debian project development discussion wrote:
> >Is there some magic involved with IP forwarding for the 2.2.x kernels?
> >
> >  # CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE is not set
> 
> IP MASQ should be set to y.

But I don't need to do address translation.  All I need is IP forwarding.
I don't think that IP forwarding depends upon IP masquerading.  (Quite
the contrary, in fact.)

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks,
David H. Silber


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Re: Fax software

1999-05-02 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Carl Fink; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
> I'm running a Debian 2.0-based system (with some newer packages
> installed as needed).  My CD-ROM contains these fax packages:
> 
>   1)Hylafax/tkhylafax
>   2)efax
>   3)mgetty-fax
> 
> I will primarily need software to *send* faxes, as I have set up an
> account with www.efax.com to receive them.  (I only have one phone
> line and my system isn't always turned on, so receiving faxes via my
> modem would be problematic.)
> 
> Which of the three programs/suites above do you folks recommend?  I
> don't need anything very elaborate, because I rarely have occasion to
> send a fax.  (Which is, of course, why I don't own a fax machine.)
> 
> Thanks for any help.  If desired, I can digest personal replies for
> the list, but that custom appears to be dying out.
> -- 

My choice is efax, which requires very small part of the HD, and it does send
faxes OK. It is a command line based, but I can send my faxes directly from
within lyx with it. Don't know about other modems, but for me it works well
with internal USR Sportster 33.3 flash upgraded to 56k.
HTH,
Damir

P.S. I'm running slink based system


Re: IP forwarding for 2.2.x kernels

1999-05-02 Thread David H. Silber
On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 11:18:23PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote:
> > Is there some magic involved with IP forwarding for the 2.2.x kernels?
> 
> Are you using IPCHAINS at all?  Are you trying to do NAT?

Yes to ipchains.  No to NAT.

David


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Fax software

1999-05-02 Thread Carl Fink
I'm running a Debian 2.0-based system (with some newer packages
installed as needed).  My CD-ROM contains these fax packages:

1)Hylafax/tkhylafax
2)efax
3)mgetty-fax

I will primarily need software to *send* faxes, as I have set up an
account with www.efax.com to receive them.  (I only have one phone
line and my system isn't always turned on, so receiving faxes via my
modem would be problematic.)

Which of the three programs/suites above do you folks recommend?  I
don't need anything very elaborate, because I rarely have occasion to
send a fax.  (Which is, of course, why I don't own a fax machine.)

Thanks for any help.  If desired, I can digest personal replies for
the list, but that custom appears to be dying out.
-- 
Carl Fink   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy." 
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun


basic question on splitting partitions

1999-05-02 Thread Peter Christensen
Sorry if this question is too basic.  I've been following several
newsgroups for a while and haven't seen this situation addressed.

I have a 3.2 GB hard drive and 16-bit addressing, so it's partitioned
into a C drive of about 2 GB and a D drive for the rest of the space.
I'd like to keep Windows 95 on the C drive while I work on installing
Linux on D.

>From reading the installation instructions it sounded like I should
create a Swap partition within "D."  So I created a system floppy with
the FIPS directory on it.  Upon execution it displayed the partition
table showing partition 1 consisting of 2047 MB and partition 2
consisting of 1047 MB.  It asked which partition to split, and I chose
"2."  The resulting error message said:  "Can't split extended
partitions.  FIPS can not yet split extended DOS partitions."

What should I do?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Peter Christensen


Re: IP forwarding for 2.2.x kernels

1999-05-02 Thread Will Lowe
> Is there some magic involved with IP forwarding for the 2.2.x kernels?

Are you using IPCHAINS at all?  Are you trying to do NAT?

Will


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unresolved(able?) gnome install problems

1999-05-02 Thread Allen B. Riddell


Hey,

	I'm using apt-get (with ftp.us.debian.org unstable main contrib non-free) 
and trying to install gnome, but nothing seems to be working.


Assuming I'm staying with a binary distribution, is the only way to get 
gnome working by using RPM? Is that safe with debian, or will it screw up 
the wonderful world of dselect which made me convert from Redhat?



-abr



Re: Installation on an i386 with *only* 40 Mb HDD

1999-05-02 Thread David H. Silber
On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 07:36:11PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
>  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
> >  I managed to get Debian on a 386/6MB, but it had two 40MB drives. As
> > others have advised, you're likely to want to go with something smaller.
> > Tom's root-boot (http://www.toms.net/rb/home.html) is a good start.
> > There are links on that page to other "micro-Linux" projects.
> 
> I don't know - base.tgz extracts to 26 mb, and that's a complete,
> functioning debian system. I think a 40 mb install should be doable.

I have such a system, so yes, it is doable.  But after setting aside 
swap space, plus that 26 MB from the base installation, there isn't a 
whole lot of room left.

Regards,
David H. Silber



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Re: mgetty conflicts with pppd

1999-05-02 Thread John Hasler
I wrote:
> It [lock] is in the distributed options file.

Hamish writes:

> Ahh, that's probably it then. It's not in my options file, because my
> setup is rather customised because I use diald for one link.

> I have two other /etc/ppp/peers/ files which have the lock
> option in them, though, created by pppconfig in hamm if I'm not mistaken.

'lock' is one of the options that diald claims must not be given to pppd if
diald is to work correctly.

>From the diald man page:

  Note that some pppd commands should not be specified, not even in the
  /etc/ppp/options file, because they will interfere with the proper
  operation of diald.  In particular you should not specify the tty
  device, the baud rate, nor any of the options crtscts, xonxoff,
  -crtscts, defaultroute, lock, netmask, -detach, modem, local, mtu and
  proxyarp.  Use the equivalent diald commands to control these pppd
  settings.

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IP forwarding for 2.2.x kernels

1999-05-02 Thread Debian project development discussion
Is there some magic involved with IP forwarding for the 2.2.x kernels?

I have a box with a brand-new Debian installation (slink), a custom-
built 2.2.5 kernel, and a pair of ne2000 ethernet cards.  I can ping
systems going out through both cards, so I know they are both working.
I just cannot get packets to route _through_ the system.  I have done
the arcane bit of magic mentioned in the kernel help file:
  echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
  echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0
  echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth1

The routing appears to be correct.  I have specified routes to networks
through each of the ethernet cards and a default route to one of the
hosts on one of the networks.

Networking part of the kernel .config:
  #
  # Networking options
  #
  CONFIG_PACKET=y
  CONFIG_NETLINK=y
  CONFIG_RTNETLINK=y
  # CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV is not set
  CONFIG_FIREWALL=y
  # CONFIG_FILTER is not set
  CONFIG_UNIX=y
  CONFIG_INET=y
  # CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
  CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER=y
  CONFIG_RTNETLINK=y
  CONFIG_NETLINK=y
  # CONFIG_IP_MULTIPLE_TABLES is not set
  # CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH is not set
  # CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_TOS is not set
  # CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_VERBOSE is not set
  # CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_LARGE_TABLES is not set
  # CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set
  CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL=y
  # CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL_NETLINK is not set
  CONFIG_IP_ALWAYS_DEFRAG=y
  # CONFIG_IP_TRANSPARENT_PROXY is not set
  # CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE is not set
  CONFIG_IP_ROUTER=y
  # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set
  # CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set
  CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=y
  # CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES is not set

(Note that I have aliased eth1, to that there are two virtual networks
on that physical network, but I don't think that should affect this.)

I have a system with 2.0.35, through which packets route just fine, so I
don't think I'm totally lost.  I suspect I either mis-set something when
I built the kernel, or there is some new configuration that I don't know
about.  Someone please enlighten me.

Thanks,
David H. Silber


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Re: Installation on an i386 with *only* 40 Mb HDD

1999-05-02 Thread Joey Hess
 Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
>  I managed to get Debian on a 386/6MB, but it had two 40MB drives. As
> others have advised, you're likely to want to go with something smaller.
> Tom's root-boot (http://www.toms.net/rb/home.html) is a good start.
> There are links on that page to other "micro-Linux" projects.

I don't know - base.tgz extracts to 26 mb, and that's a complete,
functioning debian system. I think a 40 mb install should be doable.

-- 
see shy jo


Re: mgetty conflicts with pppd

1999-05-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 07:56:35AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Madarasz Gergely writes:
> > do you have an option "lock" to pppd ? it should be in peers/isp or in
> > the options file.
> 
> It is in the distributed options file.

Ahh, that's probably it then. It's not in my options file, because my
setup is rather customised because I use diald for one link.

I have two other /etc/ppp/peers/ files which have the lock
option in them, though, created by pppconfig in hamm if I'm not mistaken.

I do seem to recall the port being locked in /var/lock, though, and
the diald-managed link is certainly locked in that directory.


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Star Wars Trailers????

1999-05-02 Thread Paul Nathan Puri
I know this is offtopic, but does anyone know where I can get some Star Wars 
trailers that will play in xmovie?  Thanks

NatePuri
Certified Law Student
Debian GNU/Linux Monk
McGeorge School of Law
Sacramento, CA
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slin, nmh and exmh

1999-05-02 Thread shaul

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On 1999/04/28, shaul wrote:
> I am having problems with inc in exmh.
> I understand that nmh 1.0.3 fixed that. 
> However, the current deb package requires glibc2.1, which is in the unstable 
> tree.
> Before trying to package the current nmh sources with glibc2 (never made a 
> deb 
> before) I wanted to ask you if you can upload your most recent glibc2 version
> to slink's proposed updates dir ?

I have compiled the most recent version of nmh with glibc 2.0.  You can get it 
at:

http://www.debian.org/~ruud/nmh_1.0-7slink1_i386.deb

Because this version does not fix security problems or other critical issues, 
it is not appropriate to place it in proposed-updates.

Thanks for your report,

Ruud de Rooij.
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