Re: registrarse
Guenas On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 02:08:30AM +0200, Miquel wrote: he visto que alguna gente pone en su firma que es usuario registrado de linux. ¿qué sentido tiene registrarse? Mas que nada es para tener referencias de la cantidad de usuarios de Linux que hay. Ademas, el pinguinito con tu numero de registro queda bonito :) Saludines -- -- POWERED BY Linux. Debian 2.0 - Kernel 2.2.9/2.3.2 - User reg. 66054 Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antequera (Malaga) - Spain Grupo LIMA (Asociacion de Usuarios de Linux de Malaga) http://iaeste.cie.uma.es/lima Yo tambien exijo drivers para Linux: http://www.ezfind-dir.com/firmas
Re: Reinstalar?
El viernes 04 de junio de 1999 a la(s) 06:53:16 +0200, Barbwired contaba: La pregunta es: reinstalo? O hay alguna posibilidad de recuperar el sistema? No es urgente, pues dispongo de otra Debian (tambien ligeramente magullada por el uso indiscriminado de rm -rf), que me sirve para ir tirando. Lo que realmente me gustaría es diagnosticar el problema y aprender a solucionarlo/prevenirlo. Sé que puede ser harto complicado, pero me gustaría intentarlo. Si quieres llegar a hacker, ya sabes... ;-) Pero necesitas mucho tiempo, mucha doc y sobre todo, muchas ganas. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User no. 87069 http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX. Linux 2.2.9 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc pgp0AQOrr2LPL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: registrarse
El viernes 04 de junio de 1999 a la(s) 02:08:30 +0200, Miquel contaba: ¿qué sentido tiene registrarse? Más que nada estadístico, y para fardar ;-) -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User no. 87069 http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX. Linux 2.2.9 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc pgpCUeC4qKyya.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: permisos write
El viernes 04 de junio de 1999 a la(s) 11:50:33 +0200, Pablo Martín contaba: ¿Como se activan permisos para que un usuario normal pueda usar el write? dice : permisions turned off $ man write [...] SEE ALSO mesg(1), talk(1), who(1) $ man mesg Y a leer ;-) -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User no. 87069 http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX. Linux 2.2.9 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc pgpE5ErEoN53M.pgp Description: PGP signature
Actualizar la hora...en potato
Me pasa lo siguiente ...: 8=== elsa:~$ rdate 129.127.28.4;hwclock --systohc Sun Jun 6 17:26:34 1999 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server XView error: Cannot open connection to window server: :0 (Server package) 8=== Package: netstd Version: 3.07-7slink.3 ¿ideas ...? =8 ___ _ _ / ___|_ _| (_) ___ Grupo de Usuarios de LInux de Canarias | | _| | | | | |/ __| Pasate por nuestro web | |_| | |_| | | | (__ http://www.gulic.org/ \|\__,_|_|_|\___| Clave PGP en las paginas de Gulic =8
Re: ¿Utilidad para desinstalar librerías sin usar?
El viernes 04 de junio de 1999 a la(s) 18:00:10 +0200, Xose Manoel Ramos contaba: Puede ser muy util. Tambien las otras utilidades para comprobar la lista de dependencias, como por ejemplo, `pkg-deptree': pkg-deptree libjpeg62 libjpeg62 gimp libjpeg-progs libtiff3g gimp-nonfree libtiff3g-dev libwraster1 wmaker ¿En qué paquete está esta maravilla? :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User no. 87069 http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX. Linux 2.2.9 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc pgprtGCmCYSia.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A Debian em Portugues! Avancos
Ola pessoal, eu estava um pouco ausente nestes dias, mas estou de volta. Por favor, me inclua neste projeto de traducao. Quero seguir em frente com este projeto. Aquela ideia do dominio debian-pt.org.br podemos defini-la, se alguem tive interesse. Gostaria muito de receber a traducao feita pelo Gleydson, eh possivel? um abraco, Anderson Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Oi gente, revisei a traducao do manual de instalacao da Debian que o Gleydson traduziu e mandei para ele. Espero a resposta... :) Vou atualizar a pagina com os e-mails das pessoas envolvidas. Quero colocar links tambem para outros projetos de traducao de portugues. Qual e' a URL do LIE-BR? Alias, esse nome e' horrivel... (LIE=mentira). Vou melhorar o visual da pagina aos poucos... Abracos,PH A Debian em portugues: http://linuxlabs.lci.ufrj.br/debian-pt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Debian em Portugues! Avancos
O Manual que o Gleydson traduziu esta na pagina: http://linuxlabs.lci.ufrj.br/debian-pt. Abracos,PH Christiano Anderson wrote: Ola pessoal, eu estava um pouco ausente nestes dias, mas estou de volta. Por favor, me inclua neste projeto de traducao. Quero seguir em frente com este projeto. Aquela ideia do dominio debian-pt.org.br podemos defini-la, se alguem tive interesse. Gostaria muito de receber a traducao feita pelo Gleydson, eh possivel? um abraco, Anderson Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Oi gente, revisei a traducao do manual de instalacao da Debian que o Gleydson traduziu e mandei para ele. Espero a resposta... :) Vou atualizar a pagina com os e-mails das pessoas envolvidas. Quero colocar links tambem para outros projetos de traducao de portugues. Qual e' a URL do LIE-BR? Alias, esse nome e' horrivel... (LIE=mentira). Vou melhorar o visual da pagina aos poucos... Abracos,PH A Debian em portugues: http://linuxlabs.lci.ufrj.br/debian-pt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A Debian em Portugues! Avancos
Christiano Anderson wrote: Ola pessoal, eu estava um pouco ausente nestes dias, mas estou de volta. Por favor, me inclua neste projeto de traducao. O projeto do manual de instalação(pelo menos a parte Intel X86 que é a mais utilizada) esta concluída. Ainda, assim voce pode pegar o manual traduzido no endereço citado pelo Paulo, instruções sobre o estilo que adotei na tradução pode ser encontrado em estilo.txt, no arquivo leiame.txt, voce encontrará maiores detalhes sobre a ordem de leitura e outros. As alterações podem ser enviadas em patches. Quero seguir em frente com este projeto. Aquela ideia do dominio debian-pt.org.br podemos defini-la, se alguem tive interesse. Gostaria muito de receber a traducao feita pelo Gleydson, eh possivel? Este projeto é só o inicio e o básico para que Brasileiros e pessoas que falam o idioma Portugues tenham acesso a Debian. Existem muitos outros projetos ligados a este que precisam ser traduzidos. Desde já contamos com a sua participação e de todos os interessados da lista. Mais na próxima mensagem Manual de Instalação - Sombra x Escondida Gleydson MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil! Use você também! http://www.mailbr.com.br
Manual de Instalação - Sombra x Escondida
Este tema é referenta a tradução da palavra shadow (shadow passwords mais especificamente). Na tradução do manual de instalação, optei por sombra, e Paulo Henrique Baptista sugeriu a troca por Escondida. Qual é a opinião do grupo? qual é o termo mais popular para ser colocado no manual de instalação, supondo que esta lista seja democrática, então qual a opinião de voces? e porque? Aguardo opiniões Gleydson MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil! Use você também! http://www.mailbr.com.br
O q pode ser traduzido
Olá, Estive passeando pelo www.debian.org, na seção de Documentação, e encontrei alguns (muitos) textos q poderiam ser traduzidos: Debian FAQ http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Debian Tutorial http://www.debian.org/~hp/debian-tutorial.html Debian User Reference Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/user/index.html Debian GNU/Linux System Administrator's Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/system-administrator/index.html Debian GNU/Linux Network Administrator's Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/network-administrator/index.html Encontrei isso tudo em http://www.debian.org/~elphick/ddp/manuals.html, e de acordo com essa página, a única coisa q não está em processo de desenvolvimento é a própria FAQ da Debian. Acho q o debian-pt pode ajudar no término desses guias junto com a tradução. É verdade q tem muita coisa pra fazer, mas acho q se esses manuais estiverem completos e traduzidos, a Debian vai ter uma documentação excelente, faltando apenas traduzir o termo RTFM. :-) PS: Instalei o pacote debiandoc-sgml, e ele vem com um guia para criar documentos SGML q pode ser interessante... -- Thiago Jung Bauermann Encrypted mail preferred Fingerprint = B015 5564 7EAB 6501 72E7 7FE2 A767 6DDA 7ECE 4E0F Send mail with get-key (no quotes) as subject to get my key pgpSH1EYtyB5L.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Manual de Instalação - Sombra x Escondida
Ola Gleydson, ola todos, Referente ao termo Shadow Passwords, porque nao utilizar Senhas protegidas... A palavra shadow tem o significado de sombrio, escuro, que nos da a ideia de protecao, abrigo... E por que nao senhas protegidas?? []s Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Este tema é referenta a tradução da palavra shadow (shadow passwords mais especificamente). Na tradução do manual de instalação, optei por sombra, e Paulo Henrique Baptista sugeriu a troca por Escondida. Qual é a opinião do grupo? qual é o termo mais popular para ser colocado no manual de instalação, supondo que esta lista seja democrática, então qual a opinião de voces? e porque? Aguardo opiniões Gleydson MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil! Use você também! http://www.mailbr.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: O q pode ser traduzido
Ola Thiago, Voce nos passou uma variedade boa de URLs! Deve ter muita coisa interessante la no meio. Nao devemos esquecer dos direitos de copyright de alguns materiais, ja que alguns autores nao permitem reproducao, exceto para uso pessoal. Legal saber que o povo da lista esta empolgado nesta ideia da traducao dos documentos, todos nos so temos a ganhar com isto! []s Anderson Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote: Olá, Estive passeando pelo www.debian.org, na seção de Documentação, e encontrei alguns (muitos) textos q poderiam ser traduzidos: Debian FAQ http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Debian Tutorial http://www.debian.org/~hp/debian-tutorial.html Debian User Reference Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/user/index.html Debian GNU/Linux System Administrator's Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/system-administrator/index.html Debian GNU/Linux Network Administrator's Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/network-administrator/index.html Encontrei isso tudo em http://www.debian.org/~elphick/ddp/manuals.html, e de acordo com essa página, a única coisa q não está em processo de desenvolvimento é a própria FAQ da Debian. Acho q o debian-pt pode ajudar no término desses guias junto com a tradução. É verdade q tem muita coisa pra fazer, mas acho q se esses manuais estiverem completos e traduzidos, a Debian vai ter uma documentação excelente, faltando apenas traduzir o termo RTFM. :-) PS: Instalei o pacote debiandoc-sgml, e ele vem com um guia para criar documentos SGML q pode ser interessante... -- Thiago Jung Bauermann Encrypted mail preferred Fingerprint = B015 5564 7EAB 6501 72E7 7FE2 A767 6DDA 7ECE 4E0F Send mail with get-key (no quotes) as subject to get my key Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: O q pode ser traduzido
Em dom, 06 jun 1999, Thiago Jung Bauermann escreveu: %_Olá, Fala jung :) Estive passeando pelo www.debian.org, na seção de Documentação, e encontrei alguns (muitos) textos q poderiam ser traduzidos: ...etc etc e tal O que deviamos fazer e' dividir o trabalho entre os membros... E comecar a fazer, e como o Adriano falou, temos que saber tambem dos direitos dos autores, alguem ficaria encarregado de verificar isso? Vamos la pessoal, colocar isso para frente :) Debian FAQ http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Debian Tutorial http://www.debian.org/~hp/debian-tutorial.html Debian User Reference Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/user/index.html Debian GNU/Linux System Administrator's Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/system-administrator/index.html Debian GNU/Linux Network Administrator's Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/network-administrator/index.html Encontrei isso tudo em http://www.debian.org/~elphick/ddp/manuals.html, e de acordo com essa página, a única coisa q não está em processo de desenvolvimento é a própria FAQ da Debian. Acho q o debian-pt pode ajudar no término desses guias junto com a tradução. É verdade q tem muita coisa pra fazer, mas acho q se esses manuais estiverem completos e traduzidos, a Debian vai ter uma documentação excelente, faltando apenas traduzir o termo RTFM. :-) PS: Instalei o pacote debiandoc-sgml, e ele vem com um guia para criar documentos SGML q pode ser interessante... Colocar em uma pagina disponivel seria bom, se quiser eu coloco na minha, pode mandar para o meu E-Mail. -- Thiago Jung Bauermann Encrypted mail preferred Fingerprint = B015 5564 7EAB 6501 72E7 7FE2 A767 6DDA 7ECE 4E0F Send mail with get-key (no quotes) as subject to get my key -- Hugo Cisneiros Eitch - UIN 6991401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +55 (079) 2319608 http://www.netdados.com.br/tlm/The Linux Manual! Did you Linux-SE today? http://come.to/linux-se !!
Re: Manual de Instalação - Sombra x Escondida
'As 11:03 de 6 Jun 99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] enviou o texto que respondo abaixo. Este tema é referenta a tradução da palavra shadow (shadow passwords mais especificamente). Na tradução do manual de instalação, optei por sombra, e Paulo Henrique Baptista sugeriu a troca por Escondida. Qual é a opinião do grupo? qual é o termo mais popular para ser colocado no manual de instalação, supondo que esta lista seja democrática, então qual a opinião de voces? e porque? Sugiro oculta, pois a pronuncia fica melhor: senha oculta, arquivo de senhas ocultas. Pelo menos, e' menos pior do que senha escondida... ;-) O que nao faz muito sentido em portugues e' senha sombra, ou senha sombreada. []'s Alexander Gieg Alexander GiegSao Paulo / Brazil [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 2200285 http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/3222/ Nick: AlexG Amados, nao deis credito a qualquer Espirito: antes, provai os Espiritos se procedem de Deus. (1 Joao 4:1) - Leia: O Livro dos Espiritos, de Allan Kardec
O q pode ser traduzido
Ola Thiago, Seria interessante a tradução de documentos já prontos ou prontos/em revisão, que tem maior parte do seu objetivo atingido, muitos documentos na página manuais existentes e sugeridos estão ainda em fase de desenvolvimento em alguns sendo planejados. Os prontos e prontos/em revisão são: -Debian GNU/Linux FAQ -Debian-user FAQ-O-MATIC -Linux Magazines Estes acima, pelo meu ponto de vista, deveriam ser os primeiros a terem suas traduções iniciadas, eles são uma importante fonte de consulta para o usuário iniciante e experiente (quem afinal nunca teve dúvidas que foram solucionadas com uma simples consulta em uma FAQ quando iniciou no Linux?). Os dois acima estão de acordo com os termos da distribuição Debian. Quanto ao Linux Magazines, ele é formado por matérias das revistas Linuz Gazette, Pluto Journal, L'Echo de Linux (descrito na página), é necessário verificar a sua licença e direitos autorais antes de iniciar qualquer tradução. Ainda sendo desenvolvidos: -Debian Tutorial -Debian User Reference Manual -Debian System Administrator's Manual -Debian Network Administrator's Manual O Debian Tutorial atualmente vem apresentando grandes evoluções, acho que em breve estará terminado e teremos condições de fazer uma tradução sem problemas. Há 2 ou 3 meses atrás o seu conteúdo poderia ser comparado ao Debian Network Administrator's Manual que temos hoje. Os outros documentos estão muito imcompletos, é preferivel entrar na tradução de um documento já desenvolvido do que passar 3 meses (ou mais) fazendo alterações na tradução de um documento que ainda está sendo desenvolvido, que ocorre com muita frequencia. Quem se candidata a iniciar a tradução destes? Gleydson Olá, Estive passeando pelo www.debian.org, na seção de Documentação, e encontrei alguns (muitos) textos q poderiam ser traduzidos: Debian FAQ http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Debian Tutorial http://www.debian.org/~hp/debian-tutorial.html Debian User Reference Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/user/index.html Debian GNU/Linux System Administrator's Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/system-administrator/index.html Debian GNU/Linux Network Administrator's Manual http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/network-administrator/index.html Encontrei isso tudo em http://www.debian.org/~elphick/ddp/manuals.html, e de acordo com essa página, a única coisa q não está em processo de desenvolvimento é a própria FAQ da Debian. Acho q o debian-pt pode ajudar no término desses guias junto com a tradução. É verdade q tem muita coisa pra fazer, mas acho q se esses manuais estiverem completos e traduzidos, a Debian vai ter uma documentação excelente, faltando apenas traduzir o termo RTFM. :-) PS: Instalei o pacote debiandoc-sgml, e ele vem com um guia para criar documentos SGML q pode ser interessante... - Gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil! Use você também! http://www.mailbr.com.br
O q pode ser traduzido
Olá Hugo, O que deviamos fazer e' dividir o trabalho entre os membros... E comecar a fazer, e como o Adriano falou, temos que saber tambem dos direitos dos autores, alguem ficaria encarregado de verificar isso? Vamos la pessoal, colocar isso para frente :) Concordo, é importante que um voluntário da lista possa verificar a possibilidade de tradução de possíveis documentos selecionados pela lista, sem violar os direitos autorais. A maioria (quase todos) os documentos desenvolvidos dentro da comunidade Debian podem ser distribuidos/copiados livremente, isto está dentro do espírito da distribuição. Colocar em uma pagina disponivel seria bom, se quiser eu coloco na minha, pode mandar para o meu E-Mail. Paulo Henrique Baptista criou uma página para abrigar as traduções, projetos desenvolvidos. Bom, com o crescimento do projeto de tradução, e aumento do número de voluntários, provavelmente será necessário a divisão de responsabilidades e tarefas entre os WebMasters da Lista (novas versões da documentação, projetos a serem desenvolvidos e iniciados). Espero que isto aconteça(não estou dispensando o abrigo e responsabilidade que Paulo Henrique ofereceu em colocar e manter a documentação dos projetos em sua página, mas é uma situação que toda a lista deseja). Os usuários da lista provavelmente decidirão quando isto deverá ser feito, desde já esperamos contar com voce e Cristiano Anderson. Gleydson PS: Qual o endereço da sua página? já saiu uma versão mais nova que a 3.4 do TLM? - Gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil! Use você também! http://www.mailbr.com.br
Re: Disabling Ice WM panel
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to do this? I went through all the usr/doc files, but I couldn't find anything that would let me turn the panel off. Thanks. Just edit your preferences file and set ShowTaskBar=0 -- Madarasz Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/
Re: International Business Opportunities
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 07:25:55AM -0700, Ecotech Technologies, L.L.C. wrote: [spam] isn't there some way of stopping this spam? can't posting ability be restricted to those who subscribe to the list? -- alisdair mcdiarmid [i won't tear again i won't breathe in the shards of what is left]
su problems with xdm
I've got problems running X apps as root with xdm. If I log in as alisdair (my main user) and su root in a terminal window, any attempt to run an X application fails: [root%letdown /home/alisdair] # xmcd Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: :0.0 This doesn't occur if I use startx as alisdair, and then su, or login from xdm as root. Why is this happening and how can I fix it? Thanks, -- alisdair mcdiarmid [i won't tear again i won't breathe in the shards of what is left]
fetchmail won't work in slink
I got fetchmail working in redhat5.2 and set up the same .fetchmailrc in slink. When I run the app I get this output: ollollo:~# fetchmail5 messages for ollollo at mail.cpinternet.com (9348 octets).reading message 1 of 5 (1922 octets) .fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]'fetchmail: can't even send to postmaster!fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.cpinternet.comfetchmail: Query status=10ollollo:~# Is there a way to get an recipient address that the SMTP listener will like?
Recovering the original boot sector
Hi, When I purchased my PC, it came with Win95 preloaded. After installing linux on it, lilo did back up the original bootsector and stored it in /boot, but over the past two years, and after a couple of Linux reinstalls, I lost the original bootsector (blush). Now, I am planning to reorganize my Win95 partition again, and I need to recover the original bootsector. The CompUSA support people that I talked to said that there is no way I could recover just the bootsector - they could recover to the original configuration shipped. But this is useless to me. They did say that 'fdisk /MBR' would recreate the original bootsector. So here is what I propose to do : 1. Take backups of th existing bootsector. Create Linux bootdisk. 2. Run 'fdisk /MBR' from within Win95. This should wipe out my existing partition table in the MBR (first 512 bytes). 3. Reboot using my Linux boot disk. Now create a copy of the old (backed up) bootsector (file A). 4. do 'dd if=/dev/hda of=/boot/B bs=446 count=1' 5. do 'dd if=/boot/B of=/boot/A bs=446 count=1' This should give me the original bootsector with the current partition tables. Am I right? Or am I shooting myself in the foot? Better ideas are welcome. Jor-el
Re: su problems with xdm
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: [root%letdown /home/alisdair] # xmcd Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: :0.0 Yeah, xdm is more paranoid than startx. You can disable access controls by running, as alisdair, xhost +. Check the man page for more info.
Re: Recovering the original boot sector
Jor-el wrote: Hi, When I purchased my PC, it came with Win95 preloaded. After installing linux on it, lilo did back up the original bootsector and stored it in /boot, but over the past two years, and after a couple of Linux reinstalls, I lost the original bootsector (blush). Now, I am planning to reorganize my Win95 partition again, and I need to recover the original bootsector. Effectively, if you reinstalled Linux, the boot0, have gone. The CompUSA support people that I talked to said that there is no way I could recover just the bootsector - they could recover to the original configuration shipped. But this is useless to me. They did say that 'fdisk /MBR' would recreate the original bootsector. So here is what I propose to do : They're (unfortunately) right, MacroSOB products don't care about other OS; making 'fdisk /MBR' will bring you back to the beginning... winbrock only... You MUST have a Linux boot floppy to reboot under it, and re-run lilo to recover your multi-boot (silly, isn't it?) -- Jean-Yves Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Membre fondateur du CGE L'amour sans passion, c'est une réforme sans pension. P. DAC Boycott Intel, watch: http://www.bigbrotherinside.com
Re: su problems with xdm
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 07:58:36PM -0400, Jason Willoughby wrote: Yeah, xdm is more paranoid than startx. You can disable access controls by running, as alisdair, xhost +. Check the man page for more info. great, thanks! -- alisdair mcdiarmid [i won't tear again i won't breathe in the shards of what is left]
Re: fetchmail won't work in slink
hi, $ locate fetchmail | grep bin /usr/bin/fetchmail /usr/bin/fetchmailconf have you tried fetchmailconf ? hafi
Re: Getting Netscape to use my mailer
Christian Dysthe wrote: Hi, I am not able to make Netscape open and use my email program when I click on an email link. I have tried all kinds of commands, but no go. I use XFmail, but it should be a standard way to do this? i have collected an url from some messages, because i also want to do something similar - if only i had the time ... anyway, you could have a look at http://developer.netscape.com/software/sdks/mailnews.html hafi
Re: netscape 4.6
Serge Gavrilov wrote: Hello! Does anybody know: is (unoffficical) netscape 4.6 packed for Slink system exists somewhere? in order to keep my slink clean from the ´horrible´ glibc 2.1, i also had to found a way. i decided to download the tarball from netscape and to use the debian-installer. till now no problem (fingers crossed) hafi
Re: International Business Opportunities
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System beep
Is there any way of intercepting the horrible PC case beep and sending a nice sample to /dev/dsp instead? I really hate the grunt my case generates on tab completion in bash and so on. -- alisdair mcdiarmid [i won't tear again i won't breathe in the shards of what is left]
Re: netscape 4.6
*- On 6 Jun, Hartmut Figge wrote about Re: netscape 4.6 Serge Gavrilov wrote: Hello! Does anybody know: is (unoffficical) netscape 4.6 packed for Slink system exists somewhere? in order to keep my slink clean from the ´horrible´ glibc 2.1, i also had to found a way. i decided to download the tarball from netscape and to use the debian-installer. The communicator/netscape v4.6 as well as X 3.3.3.1 and a few other newer debs for slink can be found at, http://ftp.netgod.net/x, or add the line below to your sources.list file for apt. This is a Debian developers site, they are built from the potato sources against a slink system, so they are safe. deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/ -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
How do I access dos partitions?
Hi, as a novice linux user, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to access my dos partition from within linux. My computer is setup with a linux partition, a linux swap partition and a dos partition. Also, is there any program that will let me choose which operating system to boot up with? Any help is greatly appreciated. Chris
Re: How do I access dos partitions?
Hi, as a novice linux user, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to access my dos partition from within linux. My computer is setup with a linux partition, a linux swap partition and a dos partition. Create a directory where you want the dos partition to be. Lets call it dos/ in /. then just issue a command mount partition /dos where partition is /dev/hd??, where your dos partition is located. You may have to specify a filesystem type: mount -t type partition /dos For that to work the support for that file system type has to be compiled into kernel (dos and vfat are usually there by default). Also, is there any program that will let me choose which operating system to boot up with? Any help is greatly appreciated. LILO. Chris Andrew --- Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN 12402354 http://members.tripod.com/AnSIv --Little things for Linux. http://www.missouri.edu/~c680789 --Computer languages of the world My work in progress. ---
Monitoring remote server
Hi, we have recently gotten our web server set up running Debian slink (What a joy!). I was wondering what the easiest way would be to monitor the server and get an email and/or page if the server goes down. I have seen some tools that are available in potato (one of them being bigbrother), but I would not like to experiment on a web server serving 2.000.000 hits a week installing from unstable. The easiest would maybe be to run something on my workstation (Debian potato) that monitors the web server (the web server is only accessable for me over the Internet, no lan etc). Any advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe ICQ 3945810 Date: 05-Jun-99 Time: 21:25:46 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux --- Clones are people two
Repartition swap?
Hi, Is there a way to repartition the swap space? I think I don't need that much swap, and want to squeeze out some extra partition for filesystem. The whole filesystem is on an extended partition (the primary partition is a DOS system) and I did not create logical drives of it, so the whole HD looks like hda1, hda2 (hda5=filesystem hda6=swap). I don't know if I can do it from DOS, since fdisk will not tell hda5 from hda6). I don't know if I can do it from Linux, since after I delete hda6, and recreate a partition, I cannot seem to create two partitions on the same space. Anyway, am I out of luck? Best wishes, Chip
Re: System beep
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: Is there any way of intercepting the horrible PC case beep and sending a nice sample to /dev/dsp instead? I really hate the grunt my case generates on tab completion in bash and so on. From the Sound-HOWTO (should be in /usr/doc/HOWTO on your system, unless you purged the doc-linux-* packages) 6.29. Can I use a sound card to replace the system console beep? Try the oplbeep program, found at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/sound/oplbeep-alpha.tar.gz Another variant is the beep program found at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/patches/misc/modreq_beep.tgz The modutils package has an example program and kernel patch that supports calling an arbitrary external program to generate sounds when requested by the kernel. Alternatively, with some sound cards you can connect the PC speaker output to the sound card so that all sounds come from the sound card speakers.
Re: Monitoring remote server
Greetings Christian, I run several Debian boxes doing many things, as well as a few NT boxes. I have found that NOCOL (http://www.netplex-tech.com/software/nocol/) does the job VERY well. Hope this helps... Anthony At 09:25 PM 6/5/99 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote: Hi, we have recently gotten our web server set up running Debian slink (What a joy!). I was wondering what the easiest way would be to monitor the server and get an email and/or page if the server goes down. I have seen some tools that are available in potato (one of them being bigbrother), but I would not like to experiment on a web server serving 2.000.000 hits a week installing from unstable. The easiest would maybe be to run something on my workstation (Debian potato) that monitors the web server (the web server is only accessable for me over the Internet, no lan etc). Any advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe ICQ 3945810 Date: 05-Jun-99 Time: 21:25:46 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux --- Clones are people two -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: How do I access dos partitions?
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:01:44PM -0400, hammy wrote: Hi, as a novice linux user, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to access my dos partition from within linux. My computer is setup with a linux partition, a linux swap partition and a dos partition. mount -t msdos /dev/hda? /dos where /dev/hda? is your DOS partitions /dos is any directory that must be exist (if not, create it) Also, is there any program that will let me choose which operating system to boot up with? Any help is greatly appreciated. It's called LILO. Run 'liloconfig' to configure it, or run 'man lilo'. William Park
LPR/LPD error
Since I installed slink, I cannot print. lpr.log shows an error message lp: filter 'f' terminated (termsig=13) but when I try to print, as root, using lpr filename /dev/lp1, nothing comes out of the printer. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong here? I suspected it might be because I didn't have an /etc/hosts.lpd file, but even adding that did not help. Steve Martin
dselect/APT problems
I am having a bit of trouble getting some packages installed from the slink distribution. I have main and contrib on CD, and I have non-free in a separate partition on one of my hard drives (I wasn't able to find CD's for this). This was not a problem under the last version, as I could tell dselect that I was mounting from a directory that was already mounted, and it never noticed that part was on CD and part was on the hard drive. I am not using Apt, as according to the documentation, and in my experience, it has trouble with the CD's. I am using dselect with an access method of multi_mount -- this seems to be the only way to get dselect to recognize both the CD's and the partition. But when I use dselect to install, it runs through a certain portion of the packages, and then just stops, doesn't install the rest, and doesn't seem to recognize that the rest are still scheduled to be installed. In past distributions, as I recall, this indicated that there were broken packages yet to be handled. So I removed all broken packages from the install list, and re-ran install, but it still doesn't do anything with the rest of the packages slated for install. I don't want to use apt-get with HTTP or FTP, as long as I have everything downloaded locally. How can I get the rest of these packages installed? Steve Martin.
wmaker hangs
Hi, well I had to reinstall linux on my sparc again to fix a problem.. well, it root wmaker works fine when I type startx... but when I type startx as a user on my system xwindow hangs and doesn't start . hope someone has the answer for me.. Thanks Harold
Quick mounting question
Over the past few days, I've been slowly getting my Debian system set up, and I have a quick question about mounting. On hdc, I had 128 MB of unpartitioned space, so I decided to make it another Linux partition and decide what to do with it later. It was the only Linux partition on hdc, so after installation, I decided to mount it as /lib, just so the disk wouldn't be totally idle. I mounted it as a temporary directory, copied all the files from /lib over to it, and then set it to mount as /lib in fstab. Now, my questions: 1. Are the original files from the /lib directory on hda1 (my /) still there, but just invisible because another filesystem is mounted as /lib, or are they gone? I didn't think it would be a very good idea to delete them before mounting the new /lib, because I worried that stuff wouldn't work very well without access to the lib files. 2. In the future, if I decide to use my 128 MB partition on hdc for something else, how should I go about that? Will everything break if I unmount /lib? 3. When installing Debian packages, I often see Warning: /lib/somethingorother.2 is not a symlink. Is this because /lib is mounted on a different filesystem? Are there any consequences of this warning, or is it harmless? 4. Was mounting /lib on a different filesystem a completely dumb idea to begin with? What's something else I could put on my 128MB filesystem? Thanks for any help. I'm going to boot back into Debian wrestle with X more try to figure out why pine isn't working. Good day.
Re: Quick mounting question
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Over the past few days, I've been slowly getting my Debian system set up, and I have a quick question about mounting. On hdc, I had 128 MB of unpartitioned space, so I decided to make it another Linux partition and decide what to do with it later. It was the only Linux partition on hdc, so after installation, I decided to mount it as /lib, just so the disk wouldn't be totally idle. I mounted it as a temporary directory, copied all the files from /lib over to it, and then set it to mount as /lib in fstab. Now, my questions: 1. Are the original files from the /lib directory on hda1 (my /) still there, but just invisible because another file-system is mounted as /lib, or are they gone? I didn't think it would be a very good idea to delete them before mounting the new /lib, because I worried that stuff wouldn't work very well without access to the lib files. The files in the original /lib will still exist, unless you manually deleted them. However, *don't* do this - it *will* break your computer. 2. In the future, if I decide to use my 128 MB partition on hdc for something else, how should I go about that? Will everything break if I unmount /lib? Yes, everything will break (for all practical purposes - see below for true technical explanation). 3. When installing Debian packages, I often see Warning: /lib/somethingorother.2 is not a symlink. Is this because /lib is mounted on a different filesystem? Are there any consequences of this warning, or is it harmless? I suspect this may be an unrelated bug in the package. I have seen similar warnings myself, but do not have /lib mounted on a separate partition. 4. Was mounting /lib on a different filesystem a completely dumb idea to begin with? What's something else I could put on my 128MB filesystem? Now for the bad news - mounting /lib on another partition will not work (someone please tell me if I am wrong) because the libraries in it are required for booting the computer, and before partitions other then the root partition have been mounted. If you can find a to boot up to the point where /lib is mounted, everything should be OK So to answer your question above, will unmounting /lib break your system? the correct technical answer is that, no it won't break your system if it is already running, because the computer still will be using the old copy of the libraries for critical functions (eg /sbin/init). However, I don't think this is the answer you were looking for. If this doesn't make sense to you, don't worry about it. However, deleting the old copies of the libraries, will break your system, and won't be able to boot again. A better approach would be to do the same thing for /usr, as /usr is not required for boot. However, have a rescue disk handy in case you do anything wrong and can no longer boot. Others should be able to point out step-by-step instructions to prevent accidently hosing your computer. However, it looks like you have already done a significant part of the job yourself for /lib. You didn't say how you copied the files though - make you you preserve the file permissions when you do so. cp -a will do the right thing and recurse into subdirectories. Thanks for any help. I'm going to boot back into Debian wrestle with X more try to figure out why pine isn't working. Good day. I much prefer mutt to pine ;-) -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpdBB3GEZG6f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Monitoring remote server
Hey Christian, Big Brother 1.08 isn't unstable at all. Go to http://maclawran.ca/bb-dnld and get the latest tar ball (1.09b or c). It has many nice features and runs very well. John C. Ellingboe www.guntersville.net Christian Dysthe wrote: Hi, we have recently gotten our web server set up running Debian slink (What a joy!). I was wondering what the easiest way would be to monitor the server and get an email and/or page if the server goes down. I have seen some tools that are available in potato (one of them being bigbrother), but I would not like to experiment on a web server serving 2.000.000 hits a week installing from unstable. The easiest would maybe be to run something on my workstation (Debian potato) that monitors the web server (the web server is only accessable for me over the Internet, no lan etc). Any advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe ICQ 3945810 Date: 05-Jun-99 Time: 21:25:46 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux --- Clones are people two -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/nullbegin: vcard fn: John C. Ellingboe - KE4BPW n: Ellingboe - KE4BPW;John C. org:The Guntersville Computer Center email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] title: Owner/Admin x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Sound Card Problem
Hello Debian users!! I finnaly initilize my sound card in a Slink using kernel 2.2.9. But I had to load DOS drivers and use loalin before loading the sound modules (Without this step, I can olny use audio CD ). I can play midis and some wav without any problem. But some wav and all my MP3 sounds horrible in linux. I don't have any problem with theses files in DOS/Windows. I would like to know how to configure this soundcard for playing MP3 and how to ionitilizes this card without booting from DOS fist. This card, by Windows information, is an Aztech Sound Galaxy. Windows 95 use the folowing drivers for this card: AZT 2316/R Audio Driver I/O 0220-022F I/O 0530-0537 I/O 0388-038B IRQ 10 IRQ 11 DMA 01 DMA 00 MPU-401 Compatible I/O 0330-0331 IRQ 09 Using DOS, this sound card uses mode Sound Blaster at ports 220H, IRQ 07, DMA0 In MWSS mode, the card user port 530H MPU401 : Port 300H, IRQ2 On Linux, I use the DOS configuration for loading the modules. I'll show /dev/sndstat data: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /dev/sndstat OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130 Load type: Driver loaded as a module Kernel: Linux skywalker 2.2.9 #1 sáb jun 5 12:37:20 EST 1999 i586 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Card config: Audio devices: 0: Sound Blaster Pro (8 BIT ONLY) (3.01) Synth devices: 0: Yamaha OPL3 Midi devices: 0: Sound Blaster Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: Sound Blaster Running lsmod, I receive the following module information: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod Module Size Used by mpu401 18448 1 adlib_card 604 1 opl3 11208 1 [adlib_card] sb 33064 1 uart401 5968 1 [sb] sound 57152 0 [mpu401 adlib_card opl3 sb uart401] ppp19948 0 (unused) slhc4328 0 [ppp] dummy684 0 (unused) lp 5148 0 (unused) sd_mod 16956 0 (unused) scsi_mod 57256 1 [sd_mod] paride 3340 0 (unused) parport_pc 5556 1 (autoclean) parport_probe 2980 0 parport 7124 1 [lp paride parport_pc parport_probe] Getting /proc/ioports data: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/ioports -001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 0170-0177 : ide1 01f0-01f7 : ide0 0220-022f : soundblaster 02f8-02ff : serial(set) 0376-0376 : ide1 0378-037f : parport0 0388-038b : OPL3/OPL2 03c0-03df : vga+ 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f8-03ff : serial(set) 0778-077a : parport0 9000-9007 : ide0 9008-900f : ide1 DMA [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/dma 0: SoundBlaster8 4: cascade And viewing /proc/interrupts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0:2034983 XT-PIC timer 1: 14637 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 4: 275357 XT-PIC serial 7: 444695 XT-PIC soundblaster 13: 1 XT-PIC fpu 14: 145325 XT-PIC ide0 15: 29921 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 I hope that someone knows how to config this soundcard for initialize it without DOS boot and play all MP3 files. But, if this sound card is one of the unsupported by the kernel, I'll buy a new sound card (SB 16, 32, any card that can be used by Windows and Linux without any problem). Thanks for any help . []'s Adilson -- |-| |Adilson dos Santos Dantas - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil | |e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |URL: http://www.lci.ufrj.br/~adilsond ICQ UIN# : 4542346| | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7479 | |-|
Configuring Zip Drive
Hi! How can I give Zip Drive support in Linux 2.2.9. When I used monkey (kernel 2.0.30), I can load the Zip Drive module using a script that unload the printer , load Zip and mount it and another that umount the Zip and restoure the printer. But it's not easy to use my Zip Drive in a slink with Kernel 2.2.9. At boot time, the ppa drive say that it cannot detect the device :( I use the following modules: parport_probe parport_pc parport paride scsi_mod sd_mod ppa lp But, ppa drive give the error message when it loads but lp module connects the printer without any problem. If anyone knows how to config kernel 2.2.9 (It can be any kernel 2.2.x) for using Iomega Zip Drive and the pronter at the same port, reply this message. []'s Adilson -- |-| |Adilson dos Santos Dantas - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil | |e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |URL: http://www.lci.ufrj.br/~adilsond ICQ UIN# : 4542346| | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7479 | |-|
Re: su problems with xdm
On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 12:29:58AM +, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: I've got problems running X apps as root with xdm. See /usr/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ. -- G. Branden Robinson | Measure with micrometer, Debian GNU/Linux | mark with chalk, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | cut with axe, cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | hope like hell. pgpsmCx1kpsuA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Using hold (dselect)
Is there any simple way to toggle hold on all installed packages?
Installing from disk
I'm installing my debian system from floppy disk, since I cannot use internet, due to having an AOL account (stupid parents.) Is there a way I can take large files and get them onto floppy disks? Even compressing some files wouldn't allow them to be transferred, and I was wondering if there was a way to do this. Perhaps using tar? I'm only familiar with zip files, from Windows. If you know a way to split files up, please let me know. Thanks. Colin Winters
tetex weirdness
I use TeX primarily for lilypond music typesetting. Ever since the upgrade from hamm to slink, I've been frustrated with tetex. Does creating the ls-R database really need to take 30 minutes on a K6-2/333? Does xdvi really need to take 15 minutes to pop up? Anytime I try to do anything with tetex, kpsewhich is eating 98.6% of CPU for 20 minutes. Did I screw up the install or is this normal behavior for tetex?
Re: Repartition swap?
Partition Magic 4.0 ($-ware) will do this. The CD-ROM has some files you can copy to a floppy which is bootable (DOS), so you don't need a Windows OS to use it. I recently used it to wipe Win98 off my HD and repartition it all for Linux, including chaning the size of the swap partition (enlarging it in this case). Bob On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Fu-Dong Chiou wrote: Hi, Is there a way to repartition the swap space? I think I don't need that much swap, and want to squeeze out some extra partition for filesystem. The whole filesystem is on an extended partition (the primary partition is a DOS system) and I did not create logical drives of it, so the whole HD looks like hda1, hda2 (hda5=filesystem hda6=swap). I don't know if I can do it from DOS, since fdisk will not tell hda5 from hda6). I don't know if I can do it from Linux, since after I delete hda6, and recreate a partition, I cannot seem to create two partitions on the same space. Anyway, am I out of luck? Best wishes, Chip -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --- Bob NielsenInternet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Quick mounting question
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Brian May wrote: 2. In the future, if I decide to use my 128 MB partition on hdc for something else, how should I go about that? Will everything break if I unmount /lib? Yes, everything will break (for all practical purposes - see below for true technical explanation). Assuming the technical explanation below is right, it's possible. 1. Install sash or something just in case it severely breaks. 2. Make sure you know how to boot to single user mode, using sash as the shell. This is important in case you hose everything that you have a chance to restore. 3. Get a copy of the Debian installation boot disk. Remember that you can do Alt-F2 to get to a VC when the install screen comes up. Make sure you can do this. This is in case your system gets _really_ hosed. 4. telinit 1 might not be a bad idea. 5. Let's assume you're going to use /mnt/hdc in the next step. Add that directory to your LD_LIBRARY_PATH 6. Umount /lib and remount it on that directory from step 5 (/mnt/hdc i'll assume) (using sash for this step might be a Good Idea) 7. Copy (cp -a) everything from /mnt/hdc to /lib (which should show the files you were mounting over all this time) 8. Copy down the proper entry from /etc/fstab, Just In Case. 9. Remove that proper entry from /etc/fstab, so it won't mount over /lib anymore. A. Cross your fingers and reboot to see if it works. Suggestions are welcome. i haven't tested this, so it could VERY easily be wrong. At least i tried to be excessively paranoid... 3. When installing Debian packages, I often see Warning: /lib/somethingorother.2 is not a symlink. Is this because /lib is mounted on a different filesystem? Are there any consequences of this warning, or is it harmless? I suspect this may be an unrelated bug in the package. I have seen similar warnings myself, but do not have /lib mounted on a separate partition. The way the libs work, a generic name (e.g. libc.so.6) is symlinked to the actual library the system uses (e.g. libc-2.1.1.so). This makes it easy to change libraries around, you can install a new version as normal, and only change the symlinks as the final step (more magic ;) i'm guessing that when you copied the libraries, you didn't use the -d option to cp... 4. Was mounting /lib on a different filesystem a completely dumb idea to begin with? What's something else I could put on my 128MB filesystem? Now for the bad news - mounting /lib on another partition will not work (someone please tell me if I am wrong) because the libraries in it are required for booting the computer, and before partitions other then the root partition have been mounted. If you can find a to boot up to the point where /lib is mounted, everything should be OK i _think_ it might be ok, but don't quote me on that. At any rate, /usr would be a much better thing to stick on a separate partition. Technical explanation, kept because i referred to it above: So to answer your question above, will unmounting /lib break your system? the correct technical answer is that, no it won't break your system if it is already running, because the computer still will be using the old copy of the libraries for critical functions (eg /sbin/init). However, I don't think this is the answer you were looking for. If this doesn't make sense to you, don't worry about it. However, deleting the old copies of the libraries, will break your system, and won't be able to boot again. A better approach would be to do the same thing for /usr, as /usr is not required for boot. However, have a rescue disk handy in case you do anything wrong and can no longer boot. Others should be able to point out step-by-step instructions to prevent accidently hosing your computer. However, it looks like you have already done a significant part of the job yourself for /lib. You didn't say how you copied the files though - make you you preserve the file permissions when you do so. cp -a will do the right thing and recurse into subdirectories. I much prefer mutt to pine ;-) Personally i prefer pine, but that's just because it's the mua i learned first. And i despise vi as a mail editor ;)
Re: dselect/APT problems
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have main and contrib on CD, and I have non-free in a separate partition on one of my hard drives (I wasn't able to find CD's for this). This was not a problem under the last version, as I could tell dselect that I was mounting from a directory that was already mounted, and it never noticed that part was on CD and part was on the hard drive. Grab the 0.3.6.1 version of APT from http://www.debian.org/~jgg - it is compiled for slink. Use the apt-cdrom tool to get APT to recognize your CD(s) and give APT a file: uri for your locally downloaded non-free mirror. You may also want to specify a http site for non-us, proposed-updates and the latest slink. If you list them in order of locallity (ie put the CD first, mirror next and the remote sites last) then when it choose the CD whenever possible. Jason
Re: Using hold (dselect)
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: Is there any simple way to toggle hold on all installed packages? Put the cursor on the line --- Up to date installed packages --- and press '='. You can do the same with the line --- Updated packages (newer version is available) --- To turn it off, press ':' instead of '='. One that i find useful is to press '_' on the --- Available packages (not currently installed) --- line, then select Remove from the menu. It gets rid of the cruft from packages uninstalled but not purged.
Re: Quick mounting question
On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 12:34:23AM -0500, Brad wrote: It was my assumption that the original poster hadn't made any changes to the old /lib directory - hence the only change required is to remove the fstab entry and reboot... However, if the original poster had deleted the original /lib directory, then procedure below would be required. Assuming the technical explanation below is right, it's possible. 1. Install sash or something just in case it severely breaks. 2. Make sure you know how to boot to single user mode, using sash as the shell. This is important in case you hose everything that you have a chance to restore. 3. Get a copy of the Debian installation boot disk. Remember that you can do Alt-F2 to get to a VC when the install screen comes up. Make sure you can do this. This is in case your system gets _really_ hosed. 4. telinit 1 might not be a bad idea. 5. Let's assume you're going to use /mnt/hdc in the next step. Add that directory to your LD_LIBRARY_PATH 6. Umount /lib and remount it on that directory from step 5 (/mnt/hdc i'll assume) (using sash for this step might be a Good Idea) 7. Copy (cp -a) everything from /mnt/hdc to /lib (which should show the files you were mounting over all this time) 8. Copy down the proper entry from /etc/fstab, Just In Case. 9. Remove that proper entry from /etc/fstab, so it won't mount over /lib anymore. A. Cross your fingers and reboot to see if it works. Suggestions are welcome. i haven't tested this, so it could VERY easily be wrong. At least i tried to be excessively paranoid... It looks ok to me... Now for the bad news - mounting /lib on another partition will not work (someone please tell me if I am wrong) because the libraries in it are required for booting the computer, and before partitions other then the root partition have been mounted. If you can find a to boot up to the point where /lib is mounted, everything should be OK i _think_ it might be ok, but don't quote me on that. At any rate, /usr would be a much better thing to stick on a separate partition. This is the first problem you will have: # ldd /sbin/init libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4000f000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) /sbin/init is the first program to run after the kernel has been booted. It needs the above files from /lib otherwise it wont work. Now, if /sbin/init, /sbin/mount, /bin/sh, etc were all statically linked, it might work, but that is a topic for another thread. Personally i prefer pine, but that's just because it's the mua i learned first. And i despise vi as a mail editor ;) I use vim ;-) -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpHkZ8R9ONBC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LPR/LPD error
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I installed slink, I cannot print. lpr.log shows an error message lp: filter 'f' terminated (termsig=13) but when I try to print, as root, using lpr filename /dev/lp1, nothing comes out of the printer. Given that error message, it sounds a bit like a problem with your /etc/printcap file and/or your magic filter. What happens when you do cat filename /dev/lp? where ? is probably 0 or 1 (try both)
CD-ROM floppy swap problem.
Hi, I was using a TEAC 4X IDE CD-ROM on a Compaq LTE 5200 notebook without problem to mount it, until I decided to test if I can mount the floppy. So, I swap the module, and found the floppy cannot be mounted. So, I switch back to the CD-ROM, and now I am having a problem mounting the CD-ROM! Earlier, /dev/hdb is where the CD-ROM connects to, now it doesn't seem to be working. Can anyone tell me what's going on here? Is there a way out? Thanks! Best wishes, Chip
CD-ROM and floppy problem update.
Well, I don't know how and why, but I am now able to mount the floppy module on the system. Strange thing is, I can only mount the Debian boot disk as a msdos disk, although I have to mount a Redhat boot disk as ext2 disk. I also note, I can read, write and execute on my DOS partition, just like another filesystem. Is this normal, or I am having some problem with my system? But, again, my CD-ROM is not mountable at this point. Am I stuck here? Best wishes, Chip
Re: XDM problems
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 03:06:52PM -0400, Chris Flipse wrote I've got an issue with the *dm programs I had thought it was just an issue with xdm, but this just happened with kdm as well... I can log in through *dm, and everything works fine while I'm working in X. However, occasionally, when I log out, instead of bringing up the login app again, I get a series of red and black vertical stripes on my monitor, and my machine is hardlocked. Have to reboot it from the hardware, which is a bad thing. Does anyone have ANY idea about this? I'm not sure that it's an *dm problem; I occasionally see *exactly* this (right down to the red-and-black stripes) when swapping vts from X to text mode. I'm running xserver-s3v version 3.3.2.3a-11 on a Stealth 3D 2000 card, but my recollection is that I had the same problem with xserver-svga with different hardware (but, I could be wrong; I hadn't characterized the problem at that time). Everything stops: ssh connections are hung, inbound pings time out, a hard reset is required. I would have logged a bug report but I wasn't sure it wasn't hardware, or that it was the XServer. Let me know if anything comes to light... John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark
Re: Kernel with APM support.
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 12:31:57PM +0200, Colin Marquardt wrote: * Jens K Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to keep my system as it but with APM support. Since I have never compiled the kernel before, I have no idea what to select and what to leave out when runing make config. Is there a way I can use the default settings of the Debian package and just add APM support so I end up with the exact same kernel, but with APM support? Does anybody know what are the reasonable APM settings for server machine? I'd like it to reduce the clock frequency when it is idle, but keep the maximum clock frequency when background calculations are performed. Is it possible? Additionally the use of www server or loging in with telnet should restore the normal (ie. maximum) clock frequency. -- TIA Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gnupg.org Gnu Privacy Guard - Protect your mail data with the FREE cryptographic system
Re: Recovering the original boot sector
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:53:38 -0500 (CDT), Jor-el [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I purchased my PC, it came with Win95 preloaded. After installing linux on it, lilo did back up the original bootsector and stored it in /boot, but over the past two years, and after a couple of Linux reinstalls, I lost the original bootsector (blush). Now, I am planning to reorganize my Win95 partition again, and I need to recover the original bootsector. From your description I take it that when you say bootsector you actually mean master boot record. They are not the same. The master boot record is the very first sector of the harddisk, containing the partition table; a bootsector is the very first sector of a partition, (possibly) containing the partition boot code. What reorganization do you plan for your W95 partition, and why would you want to recover the original MBR for it? The partition table is not altered by LILO, and that's the only thing W95 cares about. LILO doesn't change the W95 bootsector. They did say that 'fdisk /MBR' would recreate the original bootsector. So here is what I propose to do : The (undocumented) MS-DOS command fdisk /mbr restores the original MS-DOS MBR software, but leaves the partition table as it is. Effectively, it gets rid of LILO. Is this what you want? If so, you may also want to use (DOS or Linux) fdisk to set the active flag to the partition you want to boot. 1. Take backups of th existing bootsector. Create Linux bootdisk. Both are always a wise thing to do. 2. Run 'fdisk /MBR' from within Win95. This should wipe out my existing partition table in the MBR (first 512 bytes). Your partition table will not be altered, just the MBR software (wiping out LILO instead). 3. Reboot using my Linux boot disk. Now create a copy of the old (backed up) bootsector (file A). 4. do 'dd if=/dev/hda of=/boot/B bs=446 count=1' 5. do 'dd if=/boot/B of=/boot/A bs=446 count=1' All this is redundant, and probably doesn't do what you think it does anyway. HTH, Gertjan. -- Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Boot Control home page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gklein/bcpage.html
Re: Recovering the original boot sector
On Sun, 06 Jun 1999 02:03:40 +0200, Jean-Yves F. Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're (unfortunately) right, MacroSOB products don't care about other OS; making 'fdisk /MBR' will bring you back to the beginning... winbrock only... You are not doing Linux or yourself any favors by displaying your ignorance about other operating systems. More importantly, you are doing the poster of the question you responded to a serious disservice. See my reply to his question for a more accurate answer. Gertjan. -- Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Boot Control home page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gklein/bcpage.html
Re: tetex weirdness
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I use TeX primarily for lilypond music typesetting. Ever since the upgrade from hamm to slink, I've been frustrated with tetex. Does creating the ls-R database really need to take 30 minutes on a K6-2/333? Does xdvi really need to take 15 minutes to pop up? Anytime I try to do anything with tetex, kpsewhich is eating 98.6% of CPU for 20 minutes. Did I screw up the install or is this normal behavior for tetex? Everything works fine for me... I don't use lilypond though, so I don't know what it involves. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpErlM6IzQ1U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How do I access dos partitions?
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:01:44 -0400, hammy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, is there any program that will let me choose which operating system to boot up with? Several boot managers exist that you could try; Linux comes with LILO. For some alternatives look at: http://www.linuxapps.com/browse.html?category=util-boot Gertjan. -- Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Boot Control home page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gklein/bcpage.html
Re: netscape 4.6
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 08:04:54PM -0500, Brian Servis wrote: Thank you! The communicator/netscape v4.6 as well as X 3.3.3.1 and a few other newer debs for slink can be found at, http://ftp.netgod.net/x, or add the line below to your sources.list file for apt. This is a Debian developers site, they are built from the potato sources against a slink system, so they are safe. deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/ -- Serge Gavrilov
Re: Quick mounting question
On 6 Jun 99, at 15:42, Brian May wrote: It was my assumption that the original poster hadn't made any changes to the old /lib directory - hence the only change required is to remove the fstab entry and reboot... I didn't do anything to the old lib directory; I was just asking what happened to a directory if you mounted over it, because I couldn't find that information anywhere, and was curious about whether my old /lib directory was still there underneath the mounted copy. I appreciate the explanations from everyone. However, it was before I downloaded any packages that I copied all the libs over to hdc3 and started mounting it as /lib. I didn't think at the time about the fact that that /lib directory wouldn't get mounted until later in bootup. After I started mounting hdc3 as /lib, I installed quite a few packages that stuck things in /lib, and so now I'm wondering, is the system using the libs in the /lib directory on hda1 during bootup, and then using the libs in hdc3 after mounting it as /lib? I know very little about library versions, but that sounds like it could become a problem at some point. If I unmount /lib but still have it mounted in fstab, the worst that can happen is that I'll have to reboot let it get remounted, correct? Since the old /lib directory should still be on hda1, my current plan is to copy everything from /lib (the /lib on hda1) to a temp directory, pray, unmount it, make sure the old lib directory is there, test everything out, mount hdc3 as something else in fstab, and then copy any new files that got put into the /lib on hdc3 back into the proper /lib. Would that work? Or should I just boot back into Windoze stay there, for my own protection? :) On the subject of what to mount on a seperate filesystem... I don't really have any place big enough to mount /usr (I install a LOT of software) except for hda1, which is my root partition, and I don't really have anywhere else to put my root partition that isn't WAY past 1024 cylinders. Currently, I just have my 2.1 GB / on hda, my 128MB /lib on hdc, and two 512MB partitions on hdb that I mounted as /var and /tmp because I couldn't decide what else to do with them. How much space is usually required in /var and in /tmp? Is that overdoing it? Is there something better I should mount them as? I believe I heard of someone symlinking tmp to var/tmp, or something like that. Is that a feasible idea? Thanks for the help with this, and pardon my extreme ineptitude. -- Craig McPherson The University of Arkansas, Fayetteville AR [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10262746 This man walks into a bar... and it hurts!
Re: lib termcap problems...
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, vmlinuz wrote: Hellow.. I have trying to compiling Pine 4.10 on slink and I get this error: ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory debian:/# ls -l /lib/libtermcap.so.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Jun 5 11:10 /lib/libtermcap.so.2 - libtermcap.so.2.0.8 Anyone can help me ? Check if the file libtermcap.so.2.0.8 exists. If not, edit the makefile of pine and exchange -ltermcap with -lncurses. Ncurses provides a termcap emulation. hth, CU, Holger -- Holger Mense
Re: tetex weirdness
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 02:23:13PM -0500, Joseph Chung wrote: I use TeX primarily for lilypond music typesetting. Ever since the upgrade from hamm to slink, I've been frustrated with tetex. Does creating the ls-R database really need to take 30 minutes on a K6-2/333? Does xdvi really need to take 15 minutes to pop up? Anytime I try to do anything with tetex, kpsewhich is eating 98.6% of CPU for 20 minutes. Did I screw up the install or is this normal behavior for tetex? I use tetex (in fact mainly LaTeX) on my pentium 75MHz /32MB with slink without such problems. Well, I don't use xdvi, because it can fail asleep for 5 minutes while changing the page, to generate lacking fonts. I always convert my docs to PS (with dvips) and view them with gv, which works MUCH faster. For me it seems that in your tetex installation the generated fonts are not kept, and are generated again and again everytime you run it. I don't know what can be the reason of such behavior :-(. -- Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org Use Linux - save your data and time
TV card doesn't work under Linux
Hi! I have a Typhoon TV card but I can't make it to work under Linux. I have the BTTV driver compiled as modules. The driver detects the card as a BT878 (Hauppage old) and outputs the correct configuration (IRQ, memory...) at startup, but the TV program (I'm using kwintv) isn't able to find any channels, so there's no image or sound. Is this card supposed to work with BTTV? Does anyone in the list have this card or know how to make it work? This is the only thing I still need Windows for, so I'd really like to solve this problem! Thanks, Bruno.
fvwm2 preference file?
Hi, Can anyone tell me which file is fvwm2's preference? Thanks! Best wishes, Chip
Re: How do I access dos partitions?
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:01:44PM -0400, hammy wrote: Hi, as a novice linux user, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to access my dos partition from within linux. The previous advice is quite correct, however if you want to automate this at boot time you'll need to edit a file called /etc/fstab. $ man fstab This will give you all the gory details. fstab is also very useful for creating mount points for floppies and other removable media.
pdf to html
Is there any software that can convert acrobat .pdf file to .html format? Lawrence
mySql probs...
In dselect, from unstable, I get: libdbd-mysql-perl depends on libmysql6 libmysql6 does not appear to be available (and gnudip, which I'm trying to install, depends on libdbd-mysql-perl) This was working a bit earlier when I simply used the mysql package, instead of trying to go with mysql-base and -server. Does anyone use mysql and debian and gnudip? If so, do you have any recommendations? TIA, -- Jeff Bachtel Fix a host as root, and you fix it for a day. NOC,CIS,TAMU Teach the admin how to use root, and you fix http://www.cepheid.nu/~jeffthe system until the admin is rehired. finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key pgpSuKYvrcSKe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: netscape 4.6
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Brian Servis wrote: The communicator/netscape v4.6 as well as X 3.3.3.1 and a few other newer debs for slink can be found at, http://ftp.netgod.net/x, or add the line below to your sources.list file for apt. This is a Debian developers site, they are built from the potato sources against a slink system, so they are safe. deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/ I pointed apt to the above uri, but doing apt-get install navigator-smotif-46 made it complain about the netscape-base-4 package. It seems i have version 5 installed, and it needs version 10. Version 10 is in potato. Trying to install that one, apt complains about glibc 2.1 (figures). Is there a way to avoid my problem? --nico --:: Nico Galoppo ::-- --:: scratch at ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be ::- :: :: --:: Linux - Free power for the masses :::
GNOME startup
Sometimes GNOME does not startup immediately. Instead, the panel appears after a minute or so with the default settings and icons enabled. To get my session I've got to kill gnome-session and relogin. I've got two systems running potato and I've got the problem on both systems. Does anybody else have this problem, too?
Re: Netscape problem
Giorgio Gargiulo wrote: If in my HTML page I insert same frames by using : frameset border=0 frameborder=0 rows=69,8,... in Netscape browser the height of frames is different from 69 pixel, 8 pixel etc. If I use Explorer the height is correct. Can I solve this problem? Try example: frameset rows=*,50 border=0 frameborder=no frameborder=no instead of frameborder=0 should do the trick for Netscape thank you. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Regards, Ulrich Echterling
Re: Recovering the original boot sector
On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 02:03:40AM +0200, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: They're (unfortunately) right, MacroSOB products don't care about other OS; making 'fdisk /MBR' will bring you back to the beginning... winbrock only... This is exactly what you shouldn't install LILO in the MBR. The Debian default is /dev/hdaN, not /dev/hda, and there's a good reason for it. You see, if you have LILO in your Linux root's boot sector, to change whether to boot Linux or Win95 directly, all you have to do is change the active partition using FDISK on either linux or MS-DOS. I'm not sure why everybody seems to do this, but every few weeks I find myself posting the same thing on this list. Is it an old diehard Slackware habit or something? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: fvwm2 preference file?
Fu-Dong Chiou wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me which file is fvwm2's preference? Thanks! I assume you mean fvwm2's configuration file? Try /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc or ~/.fvwm2rc Also check out the hook files in the fvwm2 directory. If your files arn't located there, do a locate fvwm2 to find them. John Carline Best wishes, Chip -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Powered by the Penguin
Re: fvwm2 preference file?
Fu-Dong Chiou wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me which file is fvwm2's preference? Thanks! Take a look at the file .fvwm2rc there it explains the differernt *.hook files you can create in order to do it the debian way. I place the exterms and so forth that I want to load on startup in ~.fvwm2/init.hook. hth, kent
Re: Cooledit for debian?
Does anyone know whether somebody is packaging cooledit for Debian? It is a very nice, and fast X-editor with a lot of features. The place to check on things like this is the Debian Work Needing and Prospective Packages page (it's under the Developer's section of http://www.debian.org at http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html). If you check that page you'll find that Tom Lear mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has been working to package cooledit, smalledit, coolicon, coolman, and libcw for 11 days now. Why now E-Mail Tom and see if he needs a tester/guineau pig? -- Regards,| Microsoft -- innovative? Don't make me laugh. . | Randy | Subversion is always our best tactic. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | Microsoft Manager of Java Relations John Ludwig http://www.golgotha.net | (Quoted in Oct. 21, 1998 San Jose Mecury News)
Re: fetchmail won't work in slink
I got fetchmail working by changing my /etc/exim.conf. The line I changed was local_domains= , to: local_domains=localhost . thanks to all that replied. -jason - Original Message - From: Jason Loll To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 05, 1999 6:39 PM Subject: fetchmail won't work in slink I got fetchmail working in redhat5.2 and set up the same .fetchmailrc in slink. When I run the app I get this output: ollollo:~# fetchmail5 messages for ollollo at mail.cpinternet.com (9348 octets).reading message 1 of 5 (1922 octets) .fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]'fetchmail: can't even send to postmaster!fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.cpinternet.comfetchmail: Query status=10ollollo:~# Is there a way to get an recipient address that the SMTP listener will like?
re: GNOME startup
I also have this problem. During the slow startup period which eventually gives me the default panel settings, I monitor cpu and disk activity and find that there is almost none. Sometimes GNOME does not startup immediately. Instead, the panel appears after a minute or so with the default settings and icons enabled. To get my session I've got to kill gnome-session and relogin. I've got two systems running potato and I've got the problem on both systems. Does anybody else have this problem, too? - Bill Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quick mounting question
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Brian May wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 12:34:23AM -0500, Brad wrote: It was my assumption that the original poster hadn't made any changes to the old /lib directory - hence the only change required is to remove the fstab entry and reboot... However, if the original poster had deleted the original /lib directory, then procedure below would be required. If the poster had left it mounted for a while, the libs could easily have been modified such that the old ones wouldn't work. As a worst-case, start with slink, mount the drive, upgrade to potato (glibc 2.1)... When you unmount, everything not still linked against 2.0.7 will fail. bash, ls, mount, etc... Now for the bad news - mounting /lib on another partition will not work (someone please tell me if I am wrong) because the libraries in it are required for booting the computer, and before partitions other then the root partition have been mounted. If you can find a to boot up to the point where /lib is mounted, everything should be OK i _think_ it might be ok, but don't quote me on that. At any rate, /usr would be a much better thing to stick on a separate partition. This is the first problem you will have: # ldd /sbin/init libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4000f000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) /sbin/init is the first program to run after the kernel has been booted. It needs the above files from /lib otherwise it wont work. Which is why i said don't quote me on that ;) Now, if /sbin/init, /sbin/mount, /bin/sh, etc were all statically linked, it might work, but that is a topic for another thread. sash will take care of /sbin/mount and replace /bin/sh... Sort of. Sash seems more of a csh clone than sh.
Re: CD-ROM and floppy problem update.
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Fu-Dong Chiou wrote: Well, I don't know how and why, but I am now able to mount the floppy module on the system. Strange thing is, I can only mount the Debian boot disk as a msdos disk, although I have to mount a Redhat boot disk as ext2 disk. This is normal, it all depends on the type of filesystem the floppy was created with. I also note, I can read, write and execute on my DOS partition, just like another filesystem. Is this normal, or I am having some problem with my system? This is also normal. You might not want to be able to execute on the DOS partition though, since there aren't likely to be any Linux-compatible binaries there. Adding the -o noexec option to your mount command will turn off the executable bit, so nothing on the fs can be executed. You could also do the same thing in fstab. Here's a sample: /dev/hdb1 /DriveC vfatdefaults,noexec,gid=101,umask=007 This mounts /dev/hdb1 on /DriveC using a vfat filesystem (vfat == dos with win32 long filenames). It uses the default options except for noexec: rw (read-write), suid (which i believe has no effect on dos/vfat), dev (again, no effect), auto, (if you say mount -a, all fstab entries with auto will be mounted), nouser (only root can mount), async (asynchronous IO). The drive will have a gid of 101 and a umask of 007. The umask, combined with noexec, means the permissions will be rw-rw for files and rwxrwx--- for directories. This way, only root (the owner) and members of group number 101 can access the filesystem. umask=002 would make the permissions rw-rw-r-- and rwxrwxr-x for files and directories, only allowing write access to root and members of group number 101. There's two ways i know of to find the number for a group: look in /etc/groups or add a user to the group and use the id command as that user.
Re: GNOME startup
Did you use a mark after execing panel in your .xsession file? That may have caused the problem. Colin Winters
Re: lib termcap problems...
On 5 Jun 99, at 11:35, vmlinuz wrote: Hellow.. I have trying to compiling Pine 4.10 on slink and I get this error: ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory debian:/# ls -l /lib/libtermcap.so.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Jun 5 11:10 /lib/libtermcap.so.2 - libtermcap.so.2.0.8 Anyone can help me ? Thanks! I had the same problem when I compiled Pine 4.10. Just edit pico/Makefile.lnx and pine/Makefile.lnx and change ltermcap to lncurses and you can compile Pine without any problem. []´s Adilson |-| |Adilson dos Santos Dantas - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil | |e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |URL: http://www.lci.ufrj.br/~adilsond ICQ UIN# : 4542346| | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7479 | |-| Serocki's Stricture: Marriage is always a bachelor's last option.
Re: GNOME startup
Thanks for the response, but no, I use just a straight exec /usr/bin/gnome-session I should have mentioned that this is an intermittent problem that occurs about 50% of the them time, and the panel always reappears correctly after I log back in the second time. On 06-Jun-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you use a mark after execing panel in your .xsession file? That may have caused the problem. Colin Winters - Bill Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: International Business Opportunities
* Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: isn't there some way of stopping this spam? can't posting ability It's not _all_ bad, because of this (from http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe) # Mailing list advertising policy # # This policy is intended to fight mailing-list spamming. # # The Debian Linux mailing lists accept commercial advertising for # payment. We offer a fee waiver if you can show us the canceled check for # a $1000 (U.S.) or more donation to Software in the Public Interest # (SPI). One donation per advertisement, please. If you don't wish to Yeah, but is this ever claimed? Colin -- Colin Marquardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Riva TNT Linux drivers
On 3 Jun 1999, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: Has anyone taken the plunge and installed all the new Riva TNT OpenGL stuff? Any gotcha's? I've been using the XF86_SVGA 3.3.1 server for quite some time with my TNT card and haven't had a problem. The new X server they provide has the VMWare DGA patch, so it works a little faster with VMWare's full-screen mode. I can't really see a speed difference in 2D X, but it was plenty fast to begin with. In 3D, the difference ranges from noticeable to astounding. In the demos that come with GLUT, the underwater and glflare demos seem to show it the most. The chess demo is still slow for some reason... I've been waiting for EONS for a GLX implementation to allow me to display results from my SGI visualization software back to my PC and, even if it's not ready for prime time yet, NVidia seems to be heading in that direction pretty quickly. Haven't tried that yet, I don't have an SGI handy. :- Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Engineering is like having an 8 a.m. class and a late afternoon lab every day for the rest of your life. - Anonymous
Re: International Business Opportunities
On 6 Jun 1999, Colin Marquardt wrote: * Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: # Mailing list advertising policy # # This policy is intended to fight mailing-list spamming. # # The Debian Linux mailing lists accept commercial advertising for # payment. We offer a fee waiver if you can show us the canceled check for # a $1000 (U.S.) or more donation to Software in the Public Interest # (SPI). One donation per advertisement, please. If you don't wish to Yeah, but is this ever claimed? i certainly hope it is! You'd have to ask the mailing list maintainer to find out for sure...
Re: apt-get configuration for multi cd set
On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:22:54 +0200, you wrote: How should I configure apt-get to use 1) my 2 CD binary distribution 2) ftp.debian.org in this order? specifying file:/cd for the CD set seems inappropriate, because there are 2 CDs, and it should tell me which one to insert, just like dselect does, or go to ftp. Is this possible at all? I'd suggest installing a later apt (such as the potato version) and using its new feature apt-cdrom. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: netscape 4.6
Subject: Re: netscape 4.6 Date: Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 08:04:54PM -0500 In reply to:Brian Servis Quoting Brian Servis([EMAIL PROTECTED]): *- On 6 Jun, Hartmut Figge wrote about Re: netscape 4.6 Serge Gavrilov wrote: Hello! Does anybody know: is (unoffficical) netscape 4.6 packed for Slink system exists somewhere? in order to keep my slink clean from the ´horrible´ glibc 2.1, i also had to found a way. i decided to download the tarball from netscape and to use the debian-installer. The communicator/netscape v4.6 as well as X 3.3.3.1 and a few other newer debs for slink can be found at, http://ftp.netgod.net/x, or add the line below to your sources.list file for apt. This is a Debian developers site, they are built from the potato sources against a slink system, so they are safe. deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/ -- Brian I tried to install, with apt dselect, communicator/v4.6 from your site but kept running into a problem with netscape-base-4 (=10). I can't find that version on your site, in potato or in Slink. I settled on 4.51 even tho I know it has its problems. -- As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error. -- Weisert ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I access dos partitions?
Hi, as a novice linux user, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to access my dos partition from within linux. My computer is setup with a linux partition, a linux swap partition and a dos partition. In addition to what Andrei pointed out, a more primitive and limited way would be access via mtools. Read the mtools manpages for information what to specify in the relevant system file (sorry, forgot its name; it's somewhere in /etc). This is a possible way if you just want to copy things from that partition, ie treat it the same way as you treat a diskette, allowing access without mounting the device. Thomas -- Thomas Ruedas Institute of Meteorology and Geophysics, J.W. Goethe University Frankfurt/Main Feldbergstrasse 47 D-60323 Frankfurt/Main, Germany Phone:+49-(0)69-798-24949 Fax:+49-(0)69-798-23280 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geophysik.uni-frankfurt.de/~ruedas/
Re: International Business Opportunities
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 07:38:05PM -0500, Brad wrote: On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: It's not _all_ bad, because of this (from http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe) # Mailing list advertising policy # # This policy is intended to fight mailing-list spamming. # # The Debian Linux mailing lists accept commercial advertising for # payment. We offer a fee waiver if you can show us the canceled check for # a $1000 (U.S.) or more donation to Software in the Public Interest # (SPI). One donation per advertisement, please. If you don't wish to # donate, simply post your advertisement to the list, and the operator of # the mailing lists will bill you $1999 (U.S). The list operator will # donate this amount, minus the expense of collecting it, to SPI. Please # note that the lists are distributed automatically - messages are # generally not read or checked in any way before they are distributed. # # By the act of posting your advertisement you agree to accept # responsibility for the fee, you agree to indemnify the mailing-list # operator against any legal claims from you or others in connection with # your advertisement, and you agree to pay any legal and business expenses # incurred in collecting late payment. Our liability to you is limited to # a good-faith effort to deliver your message. # # Reduced rates and/or waiver of fee are available for Debian-related # advertisements. You must consult the mailing-list operator in advance of # posting for any reduction or fee waiver. Just one question... Is there any case, that someone has paid for his SPAM (sent without previous agreement with list operator), or got succesfully sued? -- Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org Use Linux - an OS without trojan horses inside
Re: su problems with xdm
Jason Willoughby hat gesagt: // Jason Willoughby wrote: On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: [root%letdown /home/alisdair] # xmcd Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: :0.0 Yeah, xdm is more paranoid than startx. You can disable access controls by running, as alisdair, xhost +. Check the man page for more info. I would not recommend this if your connected to a network like the internet. Better read man xauth. I suggest you write a little shellscript for root, that automates xauth-authorization like this: #!/bin/sh # xauth4root - sets Xauthority the way I want it export DISPLAY=:0.0 xauth -f /home/YOUR_USERNAME_HERE/.Xauthority extract - $DISPLAY | xauth merge - $* Then you can start e.g gvim with: % xauth4root gvim -- ____ Frank Barknecht __ __ trip\ \ / /wire __ / __// __ /__/ __// // __ \ \/ / __ \\ ___\ / / / / / / / // // /\ \\ ___\\ \ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_//_// / \ \\_\\_\ /_/\_\
new to linux sorta
okay so i have installed debian from a pile of floppys to a machine wich has 4 hard drives i took one of the drives a parted it for linux. now how do i add packages to the system over my network from my wiondows 95 ftp server. i downloaded the squid proxy server no how do i put it on my linux machine where do i put the file ?? how do i install it ? what packages are the bare minimum for programming on my machine ?? thats alot of questions!!! ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
X fonts.
Hi all, I am having some problem with emacs. Can anyone tell me how to make the Chinese fonts available in X? I have the following fonts in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc cmex24m.pcf.gz etl14-sisheng.pcf.gz etl16-sisheng.pcf.gz etl24-sisheng.pcf.gz gb16fs.pcf.gz gb16st.pcf.gz gb24st.pcf.gz guobiao16.pcf.gz taipei16.pcf.gz taipei24.pcf.gz but they are not available under fonts menu in Emacs 20.3. I think I should somehow list them in fonts.alias fonts.dir, but not sure how to do it. Would appreciate any help! Thanks in advance! Best wishes, Chip
/tmp symlink problems in man
Hi! Is debian affected too? For the message it seems it is as slink uses 2.3.10. Any confirmation would be appreciated. -- p. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:02:19 +0200 From: Marc Heuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: /tmp symlink problems in SuSE Linux 6.1 Hi, we confirmed the link vulnerablity in the man package. The culprit is zsoelim which creates the file without looking left and right. :-( All linux distributions using man 2.3.10 should be affected. A fixed package from us will be available soon. Greets, Marc -- Marc Heuse, SuSE GmbH, Schanzaeckerstr. 10, 90443 Nuernberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Function: Security Support Auditing lynx -source http://www.suse.de/~marc/marc.pgp | pgp -fka Key fingerprint = B5 07 B6 4E 9C EF 27 EE 16 D9 70 D4 87 B5 63 6C
VT options.
Hi, Can anyone tell me how I can modify the configuration file of xterminal, so that I can set different background color as well as make it scrollable by default without having to use middle button + ctrl to call up VT options and enable the setting every time a new xterm is opened. Thanks! Best wishes, Chip
Netscape.ad ...
... should allow to customize communicator/netscape. a quick test in one of mine parallel-linuxes: Open Page... - Open the Page... (search and replace, 2 occurences) gives the expected change in the File menu of the communicator. but not in slink. perhaps someone can save me from diving into the depths of the debian way to handle netscape. hafi p.s. under debian testet on /usr/lib/netscape/Netscape.ad for communicator 4.5 (installed from .deb´s) and communicator 4.6 (tarball from netscape with debian-installer)