smbmount

2000-07-10 Thread zdrysdal
Hi

i have installed samba-2.0.5a-1.deb and it does not contain either
smbclient or smbmount.  the debian search-contents feature on the debian
home page has indicated that smbmount is in the "otherosfs/smbfs" which i
presume is the module smbfs which i have installed under modconf/fs.

but i cannot find it through updatedb/locate so how can i install
smbclient/smbmount?

Thanx

Zane




rm to mp3?

2000-07-10 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Does anyone know how to convert a .rm file to an mp3
format?  I have downloaded several real audio .rm
files (I can play them on the linux realplayer) but I
would like to convert them to mp3 format.  Any ideas?

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Re: Scale

2000-07-10 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 11:18:53PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 08:02:16PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> 
> > It is approximately round (spherical).  A better approximation is made
> > with an ellipsoid (rather than a spheroid).
> 
> The Clarke Geoid of 1866 (perhaps our first modern geoid) was an ellipsoid.
> Physically though, earth resembles more an oblate spheroid.

Yep, that Clark 1866 model works pretty good for the Americas.  Just
curious, how is an oblate spheroid different from an ellipsoid?  Does it
account for the differential flattening between the northern and
southern hemispheres?  Or does it just not satisfy the equation for an
ellipse rotated about its minor axis? Interesting stuff, this quest for
the "shape of the earth".

AFAIK, the Earth Gravitational Model of 1996 is
one of the best models of the Earth -- not to easy to work with
computationally, though ;-)  Guess there's a grid approximation of it...

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Re: remote shell question

2000-07-10 Thread John Galt

nohup it...

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Chris Mason wrote:

> Is there any way to SSH or telnet into an account, start a command line
> program such as an ftp session, get the download going, then log out and
> leave the process happeneing. I would like to be able to start downloading
> then close down the workstation from which I SSHed, and come back the next
> day to find the task complete.
> 
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> Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies
> Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463
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> 
> 
> 

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Re: Scale Was [Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?]

2000-07-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 08:02:16PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:

> It is approximately round (spherical).  A better approximation is made
> with an ellipsoid (rather than a spheroid).

The Clarke Geoid of 1866 (perhaps our first modern geoid) was an ellipsoid.
Physically though, earth resembles more an oblate spheroid.

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Scale Was [Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?]

2000-07-10 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 12:33:25AM +0200, Harald Thingelstad wrote:
> Sorry to break in but..
> Looking upon the earth as flat is a fine assumption if you're working on a
> small scale.

You've got that backwards. Small scale is large area, large scale is
small area, cartographically.  It helps to remember that cartographic
scales are a fractional representation.  1:5,000 is large scale, while
1:100,000 scale is small scale (1/5000 vs. 1/100,000).  That is :.

> And yes, it's rather popular to think of the earth as (approximately)
> round these days, but we may not always do so. It's entirely a matter of
> which simplifications we see as most important. 

It is approximately round (spherical).  A better approximation is made
with an ellipsoid (rather than a spheroid).  But, I didn't know it was
popular to think of the Earth as round.  It's flat on a map (Flat Earth
Society)!.

Okay, I'm done.

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Re: remote shell question

2000-07-10 Thread John Hasler
Chris Mason wrote:
> Is there any way to SSH or telnet into an account, start a command line
> program such as an ftp session, get the download going, then log out and
> leave the process happeneing. I would like to be able to start downloading
> then close down the workstation from which I SSHed, and come back the next
> day to find the task complete.

'nohup command_line_you_want_to_run &'

info nohup
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Re: remote shell question

2000-07-10 Thread Mike Werner
Chris Mason wrote:
> Is there any way to SSH or telnet into an account, start a command line
> program such as an ftp session, get the download going, then log out and
> leave the process happeneing. I would like to be able to start downloading
> then close down the workstation from which I SSHed, and come back the next
> day to find the task complete.

Check into the package 'screen'.  It basically starts a "sub-shell" (for
lack of a better term) that can be detached from the active session and
reattached later.  You would run screen on the system that you connected to,
not the one you connect from.  If you're not going to do anything too
terribly fancy, the man page will suffice to get you going.
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Re: apt sources

2000-07-10 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 10:36:28AM -0400, Derek Wueppelmann wrote:
> Is there anywhere that I can get a list of apt sources. I want to do a
> dselect install from floppies and use apt to get the distribution
> files afterwards. I'm looking for slink apt sources, preferably off
> the ca.debian domain.

http://www.debian.org/misc/README.mirrors

CA   ftp  http
---
ftp.ca.debian.org   /debian/ /debian/
ftp.crc.ca  /pub/systems/linux/debian/
conan.eecg.toronto.edu  /debian/ /debian/
mirror.direct.ca/linux/debian/   /linux/debian/
---

Take your pick.

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Re: __STDC__

2000-07-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman

Note I've sent a carbon to the list as I think this is still relevant.

itz> Hmmm.  I have actually solved the compilation problem, and it was
itz> unrelated; in other words, __STDC__ _is_ defined during normal
itz> compiles.  Any gcc guru here to explain why it doesn't show in
itz> the output of the above command?

John> I'm not a guru, but...  I can only guess that this is defined
John> internally by the compiler.  Only things that may change between
John> machines and compiler versions would be defined "externally"
John> like this. These defines are normally in a spec file
John> somewhere. "gcc -v" will tell you where the spec file is, under
John> /usr/lib/gcc-lib somewhere IIRC. The useful ones are the
John> architecture/CPU/binary formats, although we don't normally need
John> to worry about these unless you're embedding assembly code or
John> doing some cunning tweak.

I know where my specs it, I checked it and this symbol is not
mentioned.

John> I initially thought that maybe the -ansi flag was needed, but
John> this defines __STRICT_ANSI__.

I travelled the same road ..

John> so gcc's pre-processor defines a whole lot of macros.

Yes, but according to the info file spitting _all of them_ out is
exactly what the -dM flag should do.

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remote shell question

2000-07-10 Thread Chris Mason
Is there any way to SSH or telnet into an account, start a command line
program such as an ftp session, get the download going, then log out and
leave the process happeneing. I would like to be able to start downloading
then close down the workstation from which I SSHed, and come back the next
day to find the task complete.

Chris Mason
Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies
Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463
USA Fax (561) 382-7771
Take a virtual tour of the island
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Re: __STDC__

2000-07-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman

> kronstadt:/usr/include$ gcc -E -dM -xc /dev/null
> #define __linux__ 1 
> #define linux 1 
> #define __i386__ 1 
> #define __i386 1 
> #define __GNUC_MINOR__ 95 
> #define i386 1 
> #define __unix 1 
> #define __unix__ 1 
> #define __GNUC__ 2 
> #define __linux 1 
> #define __ELF__ 1 
> #define unix 1 

Mark> That doesn't define __STDC__ on Slink either.

Hmmm.  I have actually solved the compilation problem, and it was
unrelated; in other words, __STDC__ _is_ defined during normal
compiles.  Any gcc guru here to explain why it doesn't show in the
output of the above command?

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Re: What to use as an MTA

2000-07-10 Thread John Pearson
On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 07:52:19PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote
> Dave Sherohman wrote:
> 
> > 2)  Unless you've registered your own domain and it can accept mail, the
> > configuration generated by eximconfig won't quite work out of the box.
> > Specifically, if you tell it you're @isp.net it will assume that all 
> > @isp.net
> > addresses are local, preventing you from sending mail to other users who 
> > have
> > the same ISP as you.  If you go through the config by hand, though, the
> > comments in the generated file make it fairly clear how to fix this.
> 
> This was exactly my problem, when doing a quick configuration with
> eximconfig.  Mail sent to my fillow students would not be delivered to
> the university (my ISP), because the system thought, these mails were
> local.  Right now I am using Netscape, so this is not a big issue, but
> doing mail under Netscape is not the way to go.
> 

A quick solution is to change your machine's name; instead of
calling it machine.isp.net call it machine.localnet, and *don't*
tell eximconfig that you accept mail for people at mail.isp.net
(or wherever it got the idea that those are loacl addresses);
tell eximconfig to use a smarthost, your ISP's SMTP server.

Then add a re-writing rule to the end of your /etc/exim.conf like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Fh

to automatically rewrite (in this case) the envelope from field
and all headers, substituting your "true" email address for the
locally-visible machine name.  That gives you a solution which
works; the only drawback is that mail that you send to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is delivered via your ISP, rather than
directly.

> The other problem I have with eximconfig is that it will only deliver 10
> mails at a time and then pause for a (unknown) delay.  This occurs when
> fetchmail gets mail from my ISP and passes it on to exim.  Again, not a
> big issue, and I haven't even tried to fix it.
> 

To quote from exim's info page (under "SMTP Processing"):

 Exim normally starts a delivery process for each message received,
 though this can be varied by means of the -odq' command line option
 and the `queue_only', `queue_only_file', and `queue_only_load' options.
 The number of simultaneously running delivery processes started in this
 way from SMTP input can be limited by the `smtp_accept_queue' and
 `smtp_accept_queue_per_connection' options. When either limit is
 reached, subsequently received messages are just put on the input queue.

 The controls that involve counts of incoming SMTP calls
 (`smtp_accept_max' `smtp_accept_queue', `smtp_accept_reserve') are not
 available when Exim is started up from the `inetd' daemon, since each
 connection is handled by an entirely independent Exim process. Control
 by load average is, however, available with `inetd'.


HTH,


John P.
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Re: lobotamy via HD swap

2000-07-10 Thread zdrysdal
i do not have hwclock... only "clock" as the debian version is 1.3 (bo)
running kernel 1.3. old aye :)




John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/07/2000 13:58:02

To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
cc:(bcc: Zane Drysdale/Diagnostic Labs/64)
Subject:  Re: lobotamy via HD swap




Zane writes:
> Ie.  our current box seems to be prone to the y2k bug and thinks it is
> 1994.

Have you tried the --badyear option to hwclock?
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Re: lobotamy via HD swap

2000-07-10 Thread John Hasler
Zane writes:
> Ie.  our current box seems to be prone to the y2k bug and thinks it is
> 1994.

Have you tried the --badyear option to hwclock?
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Re: How to print? (Xerox DocuPrint C15)

2000-07-10 Thread Corey Popelier
Erm one thing I noticed reading that was the first half made reference to
lp0, whereas the printcap referes to lp1.

Cheers,
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Horacio MG wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> (please, Cc: the answer to me as I'm not on the list)
> 
> just got this new brand printer, and I'm trying to get something printed
> with it, but never configured a printer before now.
> 
> The printer is recognized, as advertised by the relevant parts of dmesg:
> 
>   parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,ECP,ECPEPP,ECPPS2]
>   parport0: detected irq 7; use procfs to enable interrupt-driven
>   operation.
>   parport0: Printer, Xerox DocuPrint C15
>   
>   lp0: using parport0 (polling).
> 
> 
> I had lpr installed, and have just installed several other programs
> (Aladdin Ghostscript).  Then went to read the relevant howtos, but I
> can't see it clear enough.
> 
> I've tried to print a postscript file from 'gv', and also tried a
> simpler 'man man | col -b | lpr', but all I get is those jobs in the
> spool:
> 
> $ lpq
> waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?)
> Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
> 1sthoracio2/home/horacio/tmp/phakic.ps   496596 bytes
> 2ndhoracio5(standard input)  23645 bytes
> 
> and the status is:
> 
> $ lpc status
> lp:
>   queuing is enabled
>   printing is enabled
>   2 entries in spool area
>   waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?)
> 
> Ok, so there must be something I haven't done... sure, I haven't set the
> environment variable in .profile.  According to the howtos this should
> be set as:
> 
>   PRINTER="printer_name"; export PRINTER
> 
> Ah, but what's printer_name?  Is it perhaps that I have to make a
> symlink in /dev/ to /dev/lp0 (say, /dev/xerox -> /dev/lp0), and then:
> 
> PRINTER="xerox"; export PRINTER
> 
> or?
> 
> Also, I didn't apply any changes to /etc/printcap, so the only
> uncommented lines are:
> 
> lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry:\
> :lp=/dev/lp1:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
> :df=/etc/filter.ps:\
> :tf=/etc/filter.pcl:\
> :af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
> :lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\
> :pl#66:\
> :pw#80:\
> :pc#150:\
> :mx#0:\
> :sh:
> 
> should I then change "Generic" by "xerox"?  And how about the
> "dot-matrix" stuff?  My printer is a deskjet!
> 
> In case it's of any importance, my /var/spool/lpd/lp/ dir looks:
> 
> 
> total 520
>1 drwxrwxr-x   2 root lp   1024 jul 10 17:47 ./
>1 drwxrwxr-x   5 root lp   1024 jul 10 16:08 ../
>1 -rw-rx   1 root lp  4 jul 10 17:47 .seq
>1 -rw-rw   1 daemon   lp102 jul 10 17:15 cfA002AL6s9Ty
>1 -rw-rw   1 daemon   lp 72 jul 10 17:47 cfA005An49Sei
>  488 -rw-rw   1 horacio  lp 496596 jul 10 17:15 dfA002AL6s9Ty
>   25 -rw-rw   1 horacio  lp  23645 jul 10 17:47 dfA005An49Sei
>1 -rw-r--r--   1 root root4 jul 10 17:15 lock
>1 -rw-rw-r--   1 root root   43 jul 10 17:15 status
> 
> 
> where the file lock is a number... meaning?
> 
> 
> *Please, send me a Cc: as I am not subscribed*
> 
> 
> TIA
> 
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Re: lobotamy via HD swap

2000-07-10 Thread Gregory T. Norris
I did that recently, when upgrading to a new motherboard.  Assuming
that the new machine has compatible hardware (i.e. that your kernel was
compiled with all the necessary support included) it should work just
fine.

If you're configured to boot directly into X via xdm (or whatever),
you may want to disable that first... especially if you aren't keeping
the original monitor and/or video card.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 12:16:07PM +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
> 
> is there any side-effects from transporting the HD from a working
> slink machine to another machine.  Ie.  our current box seems to be
> prone to the y2k bug and thinks it is 1994.  What will happen if i
> grab the disk from that machine and plonk it into a newer machine
> which is y2k safe?  Will it start up and work properly?
> 
> thanx
> 
> Zane



lobotamy via HD swap

2000-07-10 Thread zdrysdal
Hi

is there any side-effects from transporting the HD from a working slink
machine to another machine.  Ie.  our current box seems to be prone to the
y2k bug and thinks it is 1994.  What will happen if i grab the disk from
that machine and plonk it into a newer machine which is y2k safe?  Will it
start up and work properly?

thanx

Zane




Re: Lilo-problem

2000-07-10 Thread John Hasler
Tom writes:
> This line in your /etc/lilo.conf is what clobbered your /dev/hda1
> partition:

> boot=/dev/hda1

> What that did was install Lilo in the boot sector of your DOS/Windows
> partition and wiped out the DOS boot record.

Which could have been restored with 'lilo -u'.
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Re: Lilo-problem

2000-07-10 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Johann Spies wrote:
> 
> Hello Ashby,
> 
> > If you are getting binary data from your /dev/fd0, then it should
> > have nothing to do with your partitioning. Sounds like the boot disc
> > you are using may be corrupt. Are you trying to boot off /dev/fd0 or
> > /dev/hda?
> 
> /dev/hda
> 
> I also found that my dos partition could no longer be mounted by linux
> and after starting dos from a stiffie, I could not access files on
> /dev/hda1. So I reformatted it.  Fortunately I have backups :)
> 
> Thanks for your reply.  It seems that my DOS partition was destroyed
> by lilo.  I could also not run fdisk /mbr in DOS.  DOS was complaining
> that it could not write on c:

This line in your /etc/lilo.conf is what clobbered your /dev/hda1
partition:

boot=/dev/hda1

What that did was install Lilo in the boot sector of your DOS/Windows
partition and wiped out the DOS boot record.

If you want Lilo in the MBR of /dev/hda you need to change that to:

boot=/dev/hda

Tom



Re: packages contained with the xfree86 distribution

2000-07-10 Thread Ron Rademaker
I don't know, but I guess this will be a working workaround:

change the name of /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11
create phony /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6
run apt-get dist-upgrade
change all dirs back again

Ron

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Michael O'Brien wrote:

> Hola~
> 
> >-- On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 12:34:53AM +0200, % wrote:
> > xfree86 4.0 isn't packaged for debian (yet), patience... patience
> 
> Right. However, I needed to install it so I could use my graphics card. So, I
> ran the binary install from xfree86.org. Now, I would like to update the
> versions of the correct debian packages so that I can still use apt-get
> dist-upgrade and not have to worry about apt stomping all over my xfree86
> installation.
> 
> For example, xf86setup and xserver need to be updated. What are the others?
> 
> MO
> 
> > 
> > On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Michael O'Brien wrote:
> > 
> > > Hola~
> > > 
> > > I had to upgrade my xserver to 4.0. Does anyone know which debian 
> > > packages I
> > > need to version to 4.0 so that I can safely use apt-get dist-upgrade?
> > > 
> > > MO
> > > 
> > > 
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> > 
> > 
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Re: packages contained with the xfree86 distribution

2000-07-10 Thread Michael O'Brien
Hola~

>-- On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 12:34:53AM +0200, % wrote:
> xfree86 4.0 isn't packaged for debian (yet), patience... patience

Right. However, I needed to install it so I could use my graphics card. So, I
ran the binary install from xfree86.org. Now, I would like to update the
versions of the correct debian packages so that I can still use apt-get
dist-upgrade and not have to worry about apt stomping all over my xfree86
installation.

For example, xf86setup and xserver need to be updated. What are the others?

MO

> 
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Michael O'Brien wrote:
> 
> > Hola~
> > 
> > I had to upgrade my xserver to 4.0. Does anyone know which debian packages I
> > need to version to 4.0 so that I can safely use apt-get dist-upgrade?
> > 
> > MO
> > 
> > 
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Re: __STDC__

2000-07-10 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 09:00:55PM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

> kronstadt:/usr/include$ gcc -E -dM -xc /dev/null
> #define __linux__ 1 
> #define linux 1 
> #define __i386__ 1 
> #define __i386 1 
> #define __GNUC_MINOR__ 95 
> #define i386 1 
> #define __unix 1 
> #define __unix__ 1 
> #define __GNUC__ 2 
> #define __linux 1 
> #define __ELF__ 1 
> #define unix 1 

That doesn't define __STDC__ on Slink either.

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Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Harald Thingelstad  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sorry to break in but..
>Looking upon the earth as flat is a fine assumption if you're working on a
>small scale.
>And yes, it's rather popular to think of the earth as (approximately)
>round these days, but we may not always do so. It's entirely a matter of
>which simplifications we see as most important. 
>(This is getting *really* off-thread..)
>
>At a smaller scale, when you're not dealing with the current lack of
>"official" IP adresses, sorting the IP addresses into "classes" is a damn
>fine way of avoiding chaos. And when you don't want to follow these rules
>strictly, you can revolve around them.

Well, I have explained IP addressing and routing to quite a number of
people. If you start with CIDR and then later explain classfull
routing as something from the past, they understand completely.
Whereas if you do it the other way around they will always be
slightly confused about CIDR.

Mike.



Re: packages contained with the xfree86 distribution

2000-07-10 Thread Ron Rademaker
xfree86 4.0 isn't packaged for debian (yet), patience... patience

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Michael O'Brien wrote:

> Hola~
> 
> I had to upgrade my xserver to 4.0. Does anyone know which debian packages I
> need to version to 4.0 so that I can safely use apt-get dist-upgrade?
> 
> MO
> 
> 
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Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Harald Thingelstad
On 10 Jul 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

> Sorry to break in on this thread and being off-topic, but...
> CIDR is 10 years old! Anyone still thinking in class A and class C
> is probably still using COBOL too... sigh
> 

Sorry to break in but..
Looking upon the earth as flat is a fine assumption if you're working on a
small scale.
And yes, it's rather popular to think of the earth as (approximately)
round these days, but we may not always do so. It's entirely a matter of
which simplifications we see as most important. 
(This is getting *really* off-thread..)

At a smaller scale, when you're not dealing with the current lack of
"official" IP adresses, sorting the IP addresses into "classes" is a damn
fine way of avoiding chaos. And when you don't want to follow these rules
strictly, you can revolve around them.

I've spent too much time thinking rules are dumb, spending
my resources wading in chaos. Yes, rules are dumb if you follow
blindly, but we don't have any "infinite amount of genius" to take from
and patterns are fine for orientation.

And it would be some coincidence if the 10.x.x.x adresses used in
this example were actually official.


Harald

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packages contained with the xfree86 distribution

2000-07-10 Thread Michael O'Brien
Hola~

I had to upgrade my xserver to 4.0. Does anyone know which debian packages I
need to version to 4.0 so that I can safely use apt-get dist-upgrade?

MO



Re: Xfree Mode Switching?

2000-07-10 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
ktb wrote:

> If that doesn't work for you make sure you in fact have different
> resolutions to switch to in your /etc/XF86Config file.

Different resolutions within the same color depth that is.  This one had
me for a while.

MfG Viktor
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Re: What to use as an MTA

2000-07-10 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Dave Sherohman wrote:

> 2)  Unless you've registered your own domain and it can accept mail, the
> configuration generated by eximconfig won't quite work out of the box.
> Specifically, if you tell it you're @isp.net it will assume that all @isp.net
> addresses are local, preventing you from sending mail to other users who have
> the same ISP as you.  If you go through the config by hand, though, the
> comments in the generated file make it fairly clear how to fix this.

This was exactly my problem, when doing a quick configuration with
eximconfig.  Mail sent to my fillow students would not be delivered to
the university (my ISP), because the system thought, these mails were
local.  Right now I am using Netscape, so this is not a big issue, but
doing mail under Netscape is not the way to go.

The other problem I have with eximconfig is that it will only deliver 10
mails at a time and then pause for a (unknown) delay.  This occurs when
fetchmail gets mail from my ISP and passes it on to exim.  Again, not a
big issue, and I haven't even tried to fix it.

Anyway, I guess I'll go with exim.

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Re: equivs problem-o

2000-07-10 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Hi,

Brien> Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This has to be:

Maintainer: Michael O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ciao,
Martin



Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Werner  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
>
>> Still, it's simply wrong. It's like assuming the sun revolves around
>> the earth simply traveling along a weird path (remember Keplers
>> equasions?).
>
>Kepler's equations were for the orbits of the planets going around the sun. 
>I think it's probably Tycho Brahe you're thinking of.

Ah yes, Kepler was the assistant of Tycho Brahe, right? Hmm, I must
have misremembered, or they taught me wrong at school. Probably
the former ;)

Mike.



Re: equivs problem-o

2000-07-10 Thread Michael O'Brien
Hola~

I've attached the file. I've tried equivs-build with a blank Changelog: line,
without a Changelog: line, and with an empty Changelog file.

MO

>-- On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 09:53:45AM +0200, % wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Brien> dh_installchangelogs
> Brien> parsechangelog/debian: error: badly formatted trailer line, at 
> changelog line 5
> Brien> dh_installchangelogs: changelog parse failure
> Brien> make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1
> Brien> Error during the build process: Illegal seek at /usr/bin/equivs-build 
> line 162,  chunk 44.
> 
> Please send me the contol file you use with equivs-build, I'll check this.
> 
> Ciao,
> Martin
> 
Section: graphics
Priority: optional
Standards-Version: 3.0.1

Package: nvidia-libgl1
Version: 1.0
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pre-Depends: 
Depends:
Recommends:
Suggests:
Provides: libgl1
Architecture: all
Copyright:
Changelog:
Readme:
Extra-Files:
Description: 
 nvidia OpenGL libraries.
 .
 MO


Re: IMP issue

2000-07-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 01:05:14PM -0700, Matthew Thompson wrote:
> > What does your /etc/nsswitch.conf look like?  Is it only
> > using DNS for host name resolution?  If so,
> > 
> > 1) insert "files " before "dns", or
> > 2) is there any internal nameserver for your LAN?
> > One that'll forward queries for the rest of the world?
> >Then put that first in the nameserver entries in
> > /etc/resolv.conf.
> 
> Both of those files are indeed set up as you suggest and the problem
> persists.  It seems strange that imp would be interested in the IP for
> doma.
> 
> Can anyone shed some light?

This is off the cuff, but I think the problem lies in your
/etc/apache/httpd.conf.  Try playing with the "ServerName" directive or
set "UseCanonicalName" to "off"

HTH,

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Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 02:33:58PM -0500, Bolan Meek wrote:
> Don't networking configuration tools default to using the "Classes"
> for computing netmasks, unless they are specified?

... and Ciscos default to using stupid proprietary protocols when you
set up a circuit.  How are stupid defaults relevant?

Yes, many people still talk about classes as if they exist (in fact
some providers still filter backbone routes with classful assumptions.
Bad.  Bad).  Some people talk about the earth being flat or mourn the
passing of horse-drawn carriages.  The simple fact is that CIDR
notation (variable length subnet addressing) is the STANDARD.  Anyone
who tells you otherwise is selling something (or worse, running RIP
v1).

Cheers,

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Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Mike Werner
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

> Still, it's simply wrong. It's like assuming the sun revolves around
> the earth simply traveling along a weird path (remember Keplers
> equasions?).

Kepler's equations were for the orbits of the planets going around the sun. 
I think it's probably Tycho Brahe you're thinking of.
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Re: Lilo-problem

2000-07-10 Thread Johann Spies
Hello Ashby,

> If you are getting binary data from your /dev/fd0, then it should
> have nothing to do with your partitioning. Sounds like the boot disc
> you are using may be corrupt. Are you trying to boot off /dev/fd0 or
> /dev/hda?

/dev/hda

I also found that my dos partition could no longer be mounted by linux
and after starting dos from a stiffie, I could not access files on
/dev/hda1. So I reformatted it.  Fortunately I have backups :)

Thanks for your reply.  It seems that my DOS partition was destroyed
by lilo.  I could also not run fdisk /mbr in DOS.  DOS was complaining
that it could not write on c:

Regards.
Johann

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Re: IMP issue

2000-07-10 Thread brian moore
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 01:05:14PM -0700, Matthew Thompson wrote:
> > Matthew Thompson wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello, all
> > > 
> > > I just installed imp/horde/mysql.  My server is located at mattyt.net.
> > > Here is my /etc/hosts:
> > > 
> > > 127.0.0.1   localhost
> > > ...
> > > 192.168.1.1 doma.mattyt.net doma
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > For some reason, when I point Netscape (from outside mattyt.net) at
> > > mattyt.net/imp, Netscape says 'Looking up host doma.mattyt.net', then it
> > > says 'Host doma.mattyt.net not found' of course, since the name doma is
> > > only know to the LAN, it's not a routed subnet.
> > 
> > What does your /etc/nsswitch.conf look like?  Is it only
> > using DNS for host name resolution?  If so,
> > 
> > 1) insert "files " before "dns", or
> > 2) is there any internal nameserver for your LAN?
> > One that'll forward queries for the rest of the world?
> >Then put that first in the nameserver entries in
> > /etc/resolv.conf.
> 
> Both of those files are indeed set up as you suggest and the problem
> persists.  It seems strange that imp would be interested in the IP for
> doma.

IMP doesn't care... Apache does.

> Can anyone shed some light?

Convince Apache of your hostname.

See http://www.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ.html#set-servername for why.

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MySQL and DBI

2000-07-10 Thread James Brown
I'm having a problem opening the data source of the MySQL server.  The set
up of my servers are as follows:

1.  My remote server is a Unix Apache and is with an ISP.  I've
installed/unzipped the Data-Dumper, DBI, MSQL-MySQL Module and the
CGI.pm into a folder just off the root.  I named the folder DBI.

2.  However, the MySQL server with the same ISP is on a separate Unix
server.

3. I have a client I downloaded onto my computer from the Artronic.com
web site which I use to connect to the MySQL server.  With this client, I
can create tables, run queries and other administrative things.  It's a good
client, but is still going through further development.

I believe that the script that I have so far needs only a little tweaking to
properly code the data source.  I've tried several different configurations
to  make this script work, but it's not happening.  HELP!!!  I've
been working on it for three days now.  I'm desparate.

Please give me a quotation for your assistance and let me know if you accept
credit cards.  I think either a telephone or private on-line chat session
would suffice.

Jim Brown
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Re: IMP issue

2000-07-10 Thread Matthew Thompson
> Matthew Thompson wrote:
> > 
> > Hello, all
> > 
> > I just installed imp/horde/mysql.  My server is located at mattyt.net.
> > Here is my /etc/hosts:
> > 
> > 127.0.0.1   localhost
> > ...
> > 192.168.1.1 doma.mattyt.net doma
> > ...
> > 
> > For some reason, when I point Netscape (from outside mattyt.net) at
> > mattyt.net/imp, Netscape says 'Looking up host doma.mattyt.net', then it
> > says 'Host doma.mattyt.net not found' of course, since the name doma is
> > only know to the LAN, it's not a routed subnet.
> 
> What does your /etc/nsswitch.conf look like?  Is it only
> using DNS for host name resolution?  If so,
> 
>   1) insert "files " before "dns", or
>   2) is there any internal nameserver for your LAN?
>   One that'll forward queries for the rest of the world?
>  Then put that first in the nameserver entries in
>   /etc/resolv.conf.

Both of those files are indeed set up as you suggest and the problem
persists.  It seems strange that imp would be interested in the IP for
doma.

Can anyone shed some light?

TIA :)

Matthew Thompson   http://mattyt.net
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Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Bolan Meek
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Walter Williams  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Sorry to break in on this thread and being off-topic, but...
> >>CIDR is 10 years old! Anyone still thinking in class A and class C
> >>is probably still using COBOL too... sigh
> >
> >Excuse me, for butting in, but, all the
> >documentation I have read on TCP/IP still
> >refer to "Classes".
> 
> I know - and I heard that they even teach it that way in Universities.
> 
> Still, it's simply wrong. It's like assuming the sun revolves around
> the earth simply traveling along a weird path (remember Keplers
> equasions?).
> 
> Good books and good professors do point that out.
> 

Don't networking configuration tools default to using the "Classes"
for computing netmasks, unless they are specified?

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Re: IMP issue

2000-07-10 Thread Bolan Meek
Matthew Thompson wrote:
> 
> Hello, all
> 
> I just installed imp/horde/mysql.  My server is located at mattyt.net.
> Here is my /etc/hosts:
> 
> 127.0.0.1   localhost
> ...
> 192.168.1.1 doma.mattyt.net doma
> ...
> 
> For some reason, when I point Netscape (from outside mattyt.net) at
> mattyt.net/imp, Netscape says 'Looking up host doma.mattyt.net', then it
> says 'Host doma.mattyt.net not found' of course, since the name doma is
> only know to the LAN, it's not a routed subnet.

What does your /etc/nsswitch.conf look like?  Is it only
using DNS for host name resolution?  If so,

1) insert "files " before "dns", or
2) is there any internal nameserver for your LAN?
One that'll forward queries for the rest of the world?
   Then put that first in the nameserver entries in
/etc/resolv.conf.
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XMailTool Package Market Research

2000-07-10 Thread Bolan Meek
Greetings: God bless you.

I'm not yet a Debian Developer, but my application is in the queue,
and I'm assaying to become the maintainer of the orphaned package
xmailtool, as well as the upstream maintainer.

But I'm wondering if I'll be wasting my time, and could better
contribute elsewise.  So I wonder:

Is anybody using xmailtool?
If not, is it because of a lack of features, so might if it had ...?
Is anyone interested in an X MUA that is not bundled in a browser?

I think that replies need not take up -user bandwidth, so please
just reply to me, not all (not cc: -user).  If anyone is interested
in what kind of response I get, I'll be glad to summarize.
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Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Walter Williams  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Sorry to break in on this thread and being off-topic, but...
>>CIDR is 10 years old! Anyone still thinking in class A and class C
>>is probably still using COBOL too... sigh
>
>Excuse me, for butting in, but, all the 
>documentation I have read on TCP/IP still 
>refer to "Classes".

I know - and I heard that they even teach it that way in Universities.

Still, it's simply wrong. It's like assuming the sun revolves around
the earth simply traveling along a weird path (remember Keplers
equasions?).

Good books and good professors do point that out.

Mike.



IMP issue

2000-07-10 Thread Matthew Thompson
Hello, all

I just installed imp/horde/mysql.  My server is located at mattyt.net.
Here is my /etc/hosts:

127.0.0.1   localhost

216.39.146.1emerald.oz.net  gateway

216.39.146.44   webmail.mattyt.net  webmail
216.39.146.44   mail.mattyt.net mail

192.168.1.1 doma.mattyt.net doma
192.168.1.5 igra.mattyt.net igra
192.168.1.10tpad.mattyt.net tpad
192.168.1.20jay.mattyt.net  jay
192.168.1.30angedon.mattyt.net  angedon

For some reason, when I point Netscape (from outside mattyt.net) at
mattyt.net/imp, Netscape says 'Looking up host doma.mattyt.net', then it
says 'Host doma.mattyt.net not found' of course, since the name doma is
only know to the LAN, it's not a routed subnet.

???

TIA for any help :)

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Re: slink to potato ssh failed

2000-07-10 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 18:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I recently upgraded my slink box to potato with apt. Everything works
> well but the new ssh:
> 
> neptun:/home/papt# dpkg --configure ssh
> Setting up ssh (1.2.3-5) ...
^
I think this was fixed around -7, and I believe -8 is current. Get the
current version and install it.

Luck,
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Cheers for Debian

2000-07-10 Thread Curtis M. Brune
I just wanted to drop you folks a line and say "Thank You" for making a 
great linux distribution.  I and my company have been using Debian since
late 1998 and it's great.  I recently upgraded my system to Potato and it
went without any problems.  Very well done.  Keep up the great work.

Cheers,
Curt

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How to print? (Xerox DocuPrint C15)

2000-07-10 Thread Horacio MG

Hi,

(please, Cc: the answer to me as I'm not on the list)

just got this new brand printer, and I'm trying to get something printed
with it, but never configured a printer before now.

The printer is recognized, as advertised by the relevant parts of dmesg:

  parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,ECP,ECPEPP,ECPPS2]
  parport0: detected irq 7; use procfs to enable interrupt-driven
  operation.
  parport0: Printer, Xerox DocuPrint C15
  
  lp0: using parport0 (polling).


I had lpr installed, and have just installed several other programs
(Aladdin Ghostscript).  Then went to read the relevant howtos, but I
can't see it clear enough.

I've tried to print a postscript file from 'gv', and also tried a
simpler 'man man | col -b | lpr', but all I get is those jobs in the
spool:

$ lpq
waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?)
Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
1sthoracio2/home/horacio/tmp/phakic.ps   496596 bytes
2ndhoracio5(standard input)  23645 bytes

and the status is:

$ lpc status
lp:
queuing is enabled
printing is enabled
2 entries in spool area
waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?)

Ok, so there must be something I haven't done... sure, I haven't set the
environment variable in .profile.  According to the howtos this should
be set as:

  PRINTER="printer_name"; export PRINTER

Ah, but what's printer_name?  Is it perhaps that I have to make a
symlink in /dev/ to /dev/lp0 (say, /dev/xerox -> /dev/lp0), and then:

PRINTER="xerox"; export PRINTER

or?

Also, I didn't apply any changes to /etc/printcap, so the only
uncommented lines are:

lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:df=/etc/filter.ps:\
:tf=/etc/filter.pcl:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\
:pl#66:\
:pw#80:\
:pc#150:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:

should I then change "Generic" by "xerox"?  And how about the
"dot-matrix" stuff?  My printer is a deskjet!

In case it's of any importance, my /var/spool/lpd/lp/ dir looks:


total 520
   1 drwxrwxr-x   2 root lp   1024 jul 10 17:47 ./
   1 drwxrwxr-x   5 root lp   1024 jul 10 16:08 ../
   1 -rw-rx   1 root lp  4 jul 10 17:47 .seq
   1 -rw-rw   1 daemon   lp102 jul 10 17:15 cfA002AL6s9Ty
   1 -rw-rw   1 daemon   lp 72 jul 10 17:47 cfA005An49Sei
 488 -rw-rw   1 horacio  lp 496596 jul 10 17:15 dfA002AL6s9Ty
  25 -rw-rw   1 horacio  lp  23645 jul 10 17:47 dfA005An49Sei
   1 -rw-r--r--   1 root root4 jul 10 17:15 lock
   1 -rw-rw-r--   1 root root   43 jul 10 17:15 status


where the file lock is a number... meaning?


*Please, send me a Cc: as I am not subscribed*


TIA

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locks and pppd

2000-07-10 Thread Lukas Eppler
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I have a strange problem with my serial port /dev/ttyS0.

/proc$ setserial /dev/ttyS0
/dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
/proc$ tail -f /dev/ttyS0 &
[1] 13643
/proc$ echo at > /dev/ttyS0

This hangs infinitely, BUT only if I have used pppd.

There are no lock files in /var/lock: 

/proc$ ls /var/lock
iptraf.tag iptraf_detstat.tag wtmplock

and there's no pppd running. ppp still runs fine if started up
again, and minicom works too. File locking seems to work fine
between minicom and pppd, but plain redirection with '>' fails after
having used pppd once. Rebooting helps :-) but that's definitely not
what I want to do that often.

You might want to know why I need that? I want to write a dialer
script using the modem to dial and taking over with the normal
phone. I'm sick of typing the numbers which are already on the
screen into the phone when I have a modem.

Please help me, I have spent hours trying to solve that problem
today. (which is probably not even worth the effort, but that's the
nerdy business, isn't it?)

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Re: Using Netmeeting thought a Debian Firewall

2000-07-10 Thread ferret

Closed-source software unfortunately. :/ I've been looking for something
like it myself, but they have neither source nor a sparclinux build.

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Marc Dubrowski wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, Jay Kelly wrote:
> > Will NetMeeting work thought a firewall or will I need to port
> > the box to let it out. If I reme\mber right in the past I was able to
> > send video out but not receive it for the other side. Anyone haveany
> > ideas to fix this ? And what port will I need to open if this is the case ?
> > Thanks Guys
> > -- 
> > 
> > It feels so good, It's a marginal risk, when I clear off windows with fdisk 
> >  
> > 
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> > http://www.debian.org
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RE: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Walter Williams

Excuse me, for butting in, but, all the 
documentation I have read on TCP/IP still 
refer to "Classes".


Walt

>Sorry to break in on this thread and being off-topic, but...
>CIDR is 10 years old! Anyone still thinking in class A and class C
>is probably still using COBOL too... sigh



Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Harald Thingelstad  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>First:
>The 10.x.x.x network range is, due to standard ip ranges, class A.
>You have used a subnet mask to divide it into 2^16 sub-ip-ranges, using
>four of them.
>
>So a simple solution might be (i've not actually done this) to treat it
>like the class A network it actually is.
>This requires reconfiguration of the windows machines however. (Or
>multiple broadcast adresses, if possible.)
>
>The free adress ranges for class C networks are 192.168.y.x  , y=0..255.
>(256 class C networks.)

Sorry to break in on this thread and being off-topic, but...
CIDR is 10 years old! Anyone still thinking in class A and class C
is probably still using COBOL too... sigh

Anyway - are the windows machines able to talk to each other
even though they are in different networks ?

If yes - see how they do this. Perhaps there is a router for each
network somewhere, or some funky route add statements.

If not - then your approach with the 3 aliases is the right one,
except that you should make sure that you use unused IP addresses
to prevent clashes like you've experienced

Mike.



Printer failure

2000-07-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
My printer has suddenly stopped working and I'm not having any luck
determining the cause...

I recently upgraded lprng from 3.6.2-2 to 3.6.12-6 and just made my first
attempt to print after the upgrade.  It fails silently and lpq just shows a
message of the form

Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  'Epson Stylus Color 400'
 Queue: no printable jobs in queue
 Status: removing job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' - ABORT at 12:05:41.092

Thinking it might be an incompatibility between the two versions of lprng, I
reinstalled the old deb.  Didn't work, but at least the older version
provided a little information instead of failing silently:

Status Information:
 sending job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1
 connected to 'localhost'
 requesting printer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 error 'LINK_TRANSFER_FAIL' sending str '^Blp' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed

/var/log/syslog shows only that localhost is trying to connect to the
printer.  /var/log/lpr.log is completely empty.

I've also double-checked that the parallel cable is secure and power-cycled
the printer.

Does this look more like a hardware or a software/configuration problem?  Any
suggestions on how to fix it?

(And no, I don't normally use root unless I'm troubleshooting.)

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Re: email to fax

2000-07-10 Thread Simon Tennant
Chris -- 

You could try using www.tpc.int.  They have a neat service that turns
addresses of the form:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] into faxes with an
advertising cover sheet. 

Just setup and alias in your /etc/aliases file and rerun newaliases.

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slink to potato ssh failed

2000-07-10 Thread papt
Hi!

I recently upgraded my slink box to potato with apt. Everything works
well but the new ssh:

neptun:/home/papt# dpkg --configure ssh
Setting up ssh (1.2.3-5) ...
dpkg: error processing ssh (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Errors were encountered while processing:
 ssh

I don't know what's wrong with it. Could anybody help me?

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Re: Cannot echo capital M

2000-07-10 Thread David Wright
Quoting M.K.Pai ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> I am facing a rather strange problem.
> 
> I am unable to echo the character "M" on my bash prompt.
> 
> I am able to get M by 
> perl -e 'print chr(77);'
> 
> I am even able to put it in an email. Note the "M" right here.
> But at the bash prompt, I just don't get any M.
> 
> Most important, other users on this system, like root and all
> others, are having no problems at all

The last person who had this sort of problem couldn't type E.
The reason was that the file ~/.inputrc contained

"\e[E":beginning-of-line
"\e[H":beginning-of-line
"\eOH":beginning-of-line
"\eOF":end-of-line
"\EOF":end-of-line <-- the offending line
"\e[F":end-of-line
"\e[e":end-of-line

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RE: ethernet card

2000-07-10 Thread Walter Williams
You have to be careful in buying hardware for
your system. Not everything is supported. 
Investigate before you buy. You can simple 
check your kernel configuration to see 
what's supported with the standard issue 
kernel. I investigated my ATI graphics
card before I bid on it on Ebay at Xfree86's
and KDE's web site.

Believe me I know, I have bought stuff I could not 
use.

Walt

-Original Message-
From: Markus Fischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 10 July, 2000 1:15 AM
To: Debian User Mailing List
Subject: Re: ethernet card


On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 09:09:56PM -0400, Michael Soulier wrote : 
>   Hey guys. My apologies if this is really basic, but I'm having a
problem
> getting Debian to detect my new Soho PCI ethernet card on boot. What's the
> proper module name that I need to configure for this card, or how can I
find
> out?

Honestly, I don't know. But have you tried ne ne2k-pci
module; a generic module for pci ne200 compatible cards.

Markus

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RE: Making new "/dev" entries

2000-07-10 Thread Walter Williams
To be honest, I am investigating Debian by 
following this list server. The system I
am referring to is a 33mhz 386 with, ah well
SuSE 6.3 on it. It sounds to me like Debian
has more tools and capabilities that the
RH derivates. I will look into the docs
in the kernel source tree.

Thanks
Walt

-Original Message-
From: paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 10 July, 2000 9:27 AM
To: Walter Williams
Cc: Debian ListServer (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Making new "/dev" entries 


> Thank you 
> 
> I do have my kernel source installed. Others
> suggested using a script called MAKEDEV. I was
> unable to find it. Wonder where I can get it.
> Although "rolling my own" from scratch will, 
> no drought, prove to be more educational.
> 
> Walt
> 
The "MAKEDEV" script is in /dev.

 
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Re: Network problems

2000-07-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 12:37:57PM +0100, Oliver Schoenknecht wrote:

> Although the kernel (2.2.16) is compiled with network-support and 
> the module for the NIC is loaded properly, I get a "connect : 
> Network is unreachable"-message each time...

Insufficient data. Can you post the output of 'ifconfig' and 'route'? Can
you ping localhost? Can you ping yourself via your network name?

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chrony and local time

2000-07-10 Thread Marcin Chady
I recently installed chrony, but it seems to be setting my clock to GMT
rather than local time, i.e. it's one hour late compared to UK's current
time. My Linux was installed with the hardware clock set to local time,
because it shares the machine with Windows. How do I tell chrony about this?

Marcin



Re: Cannot echo capital M

2000-07-10 Thread Bolan Meek
"M.K.Pai" wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I am facing a rather strange problem.
> 
> I am unable to echo the character "M" on my bash prompt.
> 
> I am able to get M by
> perl -e 'print chr(77);'
> 
> I am even able to put it in an email. Note the "M" right here.
> But at the bash prompt, I just don't get any M.
> 
> Most important, other users on this system, like root and all
> others, are having no problems at all
> 
> Please help.

Do you have in .bash_profile, .bashrc, .profile, or any of
those other dotfiles, or in any script they call a `stty ...`
line that sets M to be a control character of some kind?
Maybe some editing mangled it.  Maybe a ^ was left out.

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Re: Making new "/dev" entries

2000-07-10 Thread paul
> Thank you 
> 
> I do have my kernel source installed. Others
> suggested using a script called MAKEDEV. I was
> unable to find it. Wonder where I can get it.
> Although "rolling my own" from scratch will, 
> no drought, prove to be more educational.
> 
> Walt
> 
The "MAKEDEV" script is in /dev.

 
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Re: HOW-TO report a bug?

2000-07-10 Thread Bolan Meek
zhaoway wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I cannot report a bug using neither reportbug nor bug.
> The problem is that even I have set the EMAIL environment
> or using the --email opt to set my from: line, the bug
> message sent were still using my local not-FQDN hostname
> hence got to be rejected by Debian's SMTP server. (only
> that reportbug sent a bcc: to the mail addr suggested
> in --email.) My message got rejected saying by Debian
> SMTP server that he cannot route to me after the MAIL
> FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .

Perhaps you can configure your MTA to rewrite the header
so that the out-going From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
What MTA are you using?  I've successfully done this kind of thing
with exim.

I took out the CC: to debian-simplified-chinese, since
I thought this was off-topic for that forum.
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Bug in ipchains... or is it...

2000-07-10 Thread Mark Janssen
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I was just updating my firewall and created this nice script to do it for
me (based on the ipmasq scripts). For readability I used a lot of
variables and the long options (--add --source --destination etc etc)
However, these long options do NOT work...

/sbin/ipchains --add  --> unrecognized option '--add'
/sbin/ipchains -A --> option requires an argument (ok)

None of the long options work:
--add
--source
--destination

even though 'ipchains --help or -h both do work and provide both the long
and the short options in the help screen...

Is this a known bug/problem... is someone working on it...

In the meantime i'll just update my script... but still

This was using ipchains version 'ipchains 1.3.9, 17-Mar-1999'
on a potato box (updated daily)

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RE: Making new "/dev" entries

2000-07-10 Thread Walter Williams
Thank you 

I do have my kernel source installed. Others
suggested using a script called MAKEDEV. I was
unable to find it. Wonder where I can get it.
Although "rolling my own" from scratch will, 
no drought, prove to be more educational.

Walt

-Original Message-
From: kmself@ix.netcom.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 07 July, 2000 9:11 PM
To: Debian ListServer (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Making new "/dev" entries


On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 08:21:01AM -0600, Walter Williams wrote:
> Good Friday Morning
> 
> Does anyone know where I can find info on how to
> make my own "/dev" entries. I am trying to setup
> an old 386 as a 4 port print server and would like to
> create an "lp3" device file. 

If you want to roll your own device files, the file
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt (provided you've got kernel
sources installed) lists out major and minor mode numbers for pretty
much everything under the sun.

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Debian + other distribution

2000-07-10 Thread Ricardo Gabriel Herdt
  Debianers,

   I have a HD 10.2 with win95 at the begin (first 1500MB) and another Linux
dist. on a partition of 3000MB. (The distribution is Conectiva Linux, similar to
RedHat). I want to install Debian 2.2 on another partition without remove
neither win nor my other dist. How should I proceed to do this? 
   Obs.: My computer has the limit of the 1024 cilinders and I want to know
where is this limits in megabytes and how to deal with this problem if the
Debian partition be created over the 1024 cilinders? 
 Maybe I'll remove win95 from my computer ( if my family accept). Will
this revolution (yeah!!) help me to install two Linux distributions on the same
HD?
   And more, I have a /boot partition of 16MB to boot my Conectiva Linux.
(said that because it can be an important information.)   

   Thanks,
  Ricardo Gabriel Herdt



apt sources

2000-07-10 Thread Derek Wueppelmann
Is there anywhere that I can get a list of apt sources. I want to do a
dselect install from floppies and use apt to get the distribution files
afterwards. I'm looking for slink apt sources, preferably off the ca.debian
domain.

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Re: problem using mouse with X & potato

2000-07-10 Thread Lucas
> I can't manage to configure my mouse under X.
> My mouse is a Microsoft Serial Mouse 2.1A (2 buttons), of course on serial
> port.

forget this, I finally managed to get it working :)
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problem using mouse with X & potato

2000-07-10 Thread Lucas
Hello !
I can't manage to configure my mouse under X.
My mouse is a Microsoft Serial Mouse 2.1A (2 buttons), of course on serial
port.

I've tried to use gpm, but I get this (the mouse worked properly in
XF86Setup) :
Warning: /dev/gpmdata unable to get status of mouse fd (Invalid argument)
then X stops ...

Please tell me where I could find some documentation about my problem, or
tell me the proper way to make my mouse working.

Thanks a lot for having read me.
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Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 08:59:13AM +0200, Harald Thingelstad wrote:
> First:
> The 10.x.x.x network range is, due to standard ip ranges, class A.
> You have used a subnet mask to divide it into 2^16 sub-ip-ranges, using
> four of them.
> 
> So a simple solution might be (i've not actually done this) to treat it
> like the class A network it actually is.
> This requires reconfiguration of the windows machines however. (Or
> multiple broadcast adresses, if possible.)

The real world hasn't used classful addressing for years.  Ever hear
of variable length subnetting?

Try a whois on net 24 sometime.

To "answer" the original question:  what happens if you use the IP
your sysadmin has assigned and set a default route pointing to the
gateway for that /24?

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Re: Compaq Armada 1750

2000-07-10 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
What packages I need.
I did modprobe tlan and installed pcmcia-cs but when inserting 
the network card it doesnt beeps. What can be wrong?
Thanks, Paulo Henrique
Quoting Stuart Andrews ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira) writes:
> > Hi all Debian users,
> > I have to install Debian at a Compaq Armada 1750. I cant get the network
> > pcmcia card to work. Anyone can help on this?
> > Thanks, Paulo Henrique
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hmmm, from memory of a Compaq, try the TLAN module.  From memory
> you may also be limited to slink 2.0.30   or thereabouts.  I have 
> seen the module listed in 2.0.38 but haven't tried it yet.
> 
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Re: Network problems

2000-07-10 Thread Ron Rademaker
What do you get if you do:

ifconfig
route

Ron Rademaker

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Oliver Schoenknecht wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am currently building my own webserver but still I do have a 
> problem with my 3com 3C900-NIC.
> 
> Although the kernel (2.2.16) is compiled with network-support and 
> the module for the NIC is loaded properly, I get a "connect : 
> Network is unreachable"-message each time I try to ping any 
> machine - neither the ones in our network are reached nor any 
> external... of course ! I have also defined our standard gateway 
> here and our DNS so what do I still do wrong ?
> 
> Any clues are really appreciated !
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Network problems

2000-07-10 Thread Oliver Schoenknecht
Hello everyone,

I am currently building my own webserver but still I do have a 
problem with my 3com 3C900-NIC.

Although the kernel (2.2.16) is compiled with network-support and 
the module for the NIC is loaded properly, I get a "connect : 
Network is unreachable"-message each time I try to ping any 
machine - neither the ones in our network are reached nor any 
external... of course ! I have also defined our standard gateway 
here and our DNS so what do I still do wrong ?

Any clues are really appreciated !

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Mutt and IMAP - Specifying server

2000-07-10 Thread Patrick Kirk
Hi all,

Does anyone have an example of a .muttrc that works with an IMAP server?
I can
do everything except put the name of the server in.


Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Patrick Kirk

Mobile: 0044 (0) 705 004 9046



Re: Using Netmeeting thought a Debian Firewall

2000-07-10 Thread Marc Dubrowski
On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, Jay Kelly wrote:
> Will NetMeeting work thought a firewall or will I need to port
> the box to let it out. If I reme\mber right in the past I was able to
> send video out but not receive it for the other side. Anyone haveany
> ideas to fix this ? And what port will I need to open if this is the case ?
> Thanks Guys
> -- 
> 
> It feels so good, It's a marginal risk, when I clear off windows with fdisk   
>
> 
> Powered by Debian GNU/Linux. 
> http://www.debian.org
>  
> 
> 
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Re: Cant find bzImage

2000-07-10 Thread Frank Barknecht
David Gisborne hat gesagt: // David Gisborne wrote:

> Sorry for my igorance, but what exactly does installing the kernel-package
> do... Does it set it up for recompiling?

Hi David,

kernel-package greatly simplifies the process of compiling a kernel. You
just configure the kernel, call make-kpkg, that builds a Debian-package
with the new kernel-image. After that you just install that package with 

$ dpkg -i kernel-image-2.2.16_???.deb

and all is fine. I have found that a lot of the errors people have with
compiling and installing the kernel disappear if they use make-kpkg. 
make-kpkg might be the second most useful debian tool besides  apt-get ;-)

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Two screens

2000-07-10 Thread Frodo Baggins
Hi,
  I run a (almost) pure potato distrib with 2.2.17 kernel. Problem is, 
I have a Intel740 graphic card and a 17" monitor as standard output
device. But I also have a S3 card a 15" monitor from an old PC which
died sometimes ago. I would like to set up all this things such that I 
have a dual monitor setup. I understand that XFree 4 does the thing,
but I would like to stick to stable things. 

  Looking at the documentation, it seems to me that it should be
possible to start two X servers, one by XFREE86_SVGA :0 (the standard
monitor) and one by XFREE86_S3 :1, then use x2x to link the
dislpays. This brings up some more questions that I could nmot answer
by looking at the doc:

  1. I suppose I must add a Device section to the XF86Config file, but 
 how I specify which card is which?
  2. at startup XFREE86_SVGA :0 is automagicaly launched on
 pseudoterminal 7, so there is some script file that do that. I
 suppose I should change it, but... where it is?

Thaks a lot.

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Re: ethernet card

2000-07-10 Thread Corey Popelier
Do cat /proc/pci , and see exactly what it says about the type of ethernet
card you have. Then goto a Ethernet-HOWTO or a hardware list in relation
to Debian and you will get more of an idea as to what is required.

Or install PCIUTILS, which will also give you further information on your
PCI devices.

http://www.ind.mh.se/linuxdoc/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO.html is one such place
with this sort of information.

Cheers,
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Markus Fischer wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 09:09:56PM -0400, Michael Soulier wrote : 
> > Hey guys. My apologies if this is really basic, but I'm having a problem
> > getting Debian to detect my new Soho PCI ethernet card on boot. What's the
> > proper module name that I need to configure for this card, or how can I find
> > out?
> 
>   Honestly, I don't know. But have you tried ne ne2k-pci
> module; a generic module for pci ne200 compatible cards.
> 
> Markus
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Re: Helix Gnome Updater

2000-07-10 Thread Mark Herrick
Oh - I was under the impression it was a bit smarter than that :(
I don't think I'll bother then - Thanks Joachim.

On 09/07/00 at 22:44 Joachim Trinkwitz spake the following magic words:

>"Mark Herrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I've installed Helix Gnome on my potato system using:
>> apt-get install task-helix-gnome
>> and it works great, but does anyone know where I can get debs for the
>> helix-updater?
>
>Not packaged after all I know, but what would you do with it? (The
>updater is only an imitation of apt, isn't it, and Helix is updating
>the GNOME debs quite so often.)
>
>Greetings,
>joachim


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a mgetty.conf for elsa-microlink?

2000-07-10 Thread Bruno Boettcher
hello,

i just bought a elsa-microlink modem for receiving faxes, installed it but it
doesn't want to work

i asked some friends to try to send me a fax, i even tryed to send a fax
through a locally installed fax, the modem beeing triggered by the answer_fax-
script nothing helps, mgetty is configured to try only faxmode (not data)
the last try only yielded a waiting for fax ok in the mgetty-log...

so if anyone has a working setup (for receiving faxes, sending is not prob)
together with a elsa-microlink modem, i would be happy to look into his config
files.

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Lilo-problem

2000-07-10 Thread Johann Spies
My hd setup is as follows:

/dev/hda  10Gb  with 6meg dos partition /dev/hda1 on it and the rest free.
/dev/hdb  8.4Gb with /dev/hdb2 (about 8Gb) containing my slink/potato.

The previous Lilo would not work because of the 1024 cilinder
problem. So I installed the new lilo and it ran without a problem
using the -L option.

But when I boot, /dev/fd0 keeps running with a lot of 

01 01 01 01 01 01 01 

on the screen and nothing further happens.

My /etc/lilo.conf looks like this (comments removed)
-
boot=/dev/hda1
root=/dev/hdb2
compact
lba32
install=/boot/boot.b
delay=20
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only
 other=/dev/hda1
   label=dos
-

I hope somebody can help me to fix this.

Johann.

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Re: HW for UPS

2000-07-10 Thread Johann Spies
I recently bought a Tripp Lite OnmiSmart 1000 TNT PNP and uses it with
powstatd.  It is my first UPS and I am quite happy with the way it behaves.


On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 02:35:58PM +0200, Werner Reisberger wrote:
> Does someone know which UPS hardware could be used with the debian
> ups packet.

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Re: Helix Gnome Updater

2000-07-10 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
"Mark Herrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've installed Helix Gnome on my potato system using:
> apt-get install task-helix-gnome
> and it works great, but does anyone know where I can get debs for the
> helix-updater?

Not packaged after all I know, but what would you do with it? (The
updater is only an imitation of apt, isn't it, and Helix is updating
the GNOME debs quite so often.)

Greetings,
joachim



Re: ethernet card

2000-07-10 Thread Markus Fischer
On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 09:09:56PM -0400, Michael Soulier wrote : 
>   Hey guys. My apologies if this is really basic, but I'm having a problem
> getting Debian to detect my new Soho PCI ethernet card on boot. What's the
> proper module name that I need to configure for this card, or how can I find
> out?

Honestly, I don't know. But have you tried ne ne2k-pci
module; a generic module for pci ne200 compatible cards.

Markus

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Re: email to fax

2000-07-10 Thread Davide Libenzi

> Can anyone suggest an automate way to route all the email sent to one
email
> address to be faxed to one fax machine. The purpose is to allow orders
taken
> by email to be automatically faxed to a store that does not have email.

You can use custom mail processing of XMail :

http://www.maticad.it/davide/xmail.asp

to redirect either a single account or an entire domain mails to external
programs execution
( mailproc.tab and custdomains ).
AFAK also sendmail, qmail, exim and postfix have similar features.




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Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Harald Thingelstad
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Jameson Burt wrote:

> I run Debian potato Linux (upgrading it weekly) within a network 
> that others have setup for Microsoft Windows 95/98.
> This network has (over the same ethernet cables) 
> computers and printers covering 4 C-class networks
> as follows [first 2 digits altered],
>10.129.206.0
>10.129.207.0
>10.129.208.0
>10.129.209.0
> My computer has the IP address,
>10.129.208.230
> HOW DO I GET MY LINUX COMPUTER TO WORK WELL IN A NETWORK OF 4 C-CLASSES?
> 

First:
The 10.x.x.x network range is, due to standard ip ranges, class A.
You have used a subnet mask to divide it into 2^16 sub-ip-ranges, using
four of them.

So a simple solution might be (i've not actually done this) to treat it
like the class A network it actually is.
This requires reconfiguration of the windows machines however. (Or
multiple broadcast adresses, if possible.)

The free adress ranges for class C networks are 192.168.y.x  , y=0..255.
(256 class C networks.)

> 2. Aliasing
>I largely followed ideas in the IP-alias mini-HOWTO.
> 
>I turned on IP Aliasing in the kernel, then put the following in
>   /etc/network/interfaces
>
>  iface eth0 inet static
> address   10.129.208.230
> netmask   255.255.255.0
> network   10.129.208.0
> broadcast 10.129.208.255
> gateway   10.129.208.1
> 
>  iface eth0:0 inet static
> address   10.129.206.1#but this is another computer's address
> netmask   255.255.255.0
> network   10.129.206.0
> broadcast 10.129.206.255
> gateway   10.129.208.1
> 
>  iface eth0:1 inet static
> address   10.129.207.1#but this is another computer's address
> netmask   255.255.255.0
> network   10.129.207.0
> broadcast 10.129.207.255
> gateway   10.129.208.1
> 
>  iface eth0:2 inet static
> address   10.129.209.1#but this is another computer's address
> netmask   255.255.255.0
> network   10.129.209.0
> broadcast 10.129.209.255
> gateway   10.129.208.1
> 

I still believe IP aliasing should be done with eth0:0, eth0:1, eth0:2,
eth0:3 instead of eth0, eth0:0, eth0:1, eth0:2.
The documentation says nothing about the latter, as far as I know.
The non-IP-aliasing method of eth0 and the IP-aliasing method of eth0:0
may be mutually exclusive, or eth0 may be an alias for eth0:0 when kernel
IP aliasing is turned on.

>This approach worked well for Samba for 5 minutes until, I presume, 
>other computers like 10.129.206.1 conflicted with 
>my multiple assignment of IP addresses to the same ethernet card,
>including this very "address 10.129.206.1" above.
>Of course, I have but one IP address, so my eth0 card 
>should be assigned but one IP address.
>I last tried this approach 2 days ago.
> 
> 
> 
> So, you can see I would like all 4 C-class subnets to be somehow 
> recognized as one network by my Debian computer,
> which would probably require the following settings,
> 
> a. address of my eth0 interface
>10.129.208.230
> 
>I can get but one address for my computer from my administrators.
>I don't need all the IP aliasing that lets my computer respond 
>to several IP address; I only need my computer to interract 
>in a network that has 4 C-class networks. 
> 

This is in order to reduce netbios socializing, I guess. ("Hello! Here I
am! Does anybody hear me?". Does a huge amount of traffic on large
networks). Netbios isn't meant for larger networks and
wondiws doesn't support the tcp/ip-tools (for example) out of the box.
They should probably have used a WINS server instead. It centralizes the
netbios socializing and keeps it down. 
Making clients have to listen to several ip ranges is downright idiotic
if you ask me, but you are in a "windows network" so who should expect
any less. (Apply the old joke: "How many microsoft engineers do you
need to change a light bulb? None. They just define darkness as a new 
standard.")

> b. broadcast addresses
>10.129.206.255
>10.129.207.255
>10.129.208.255
>10.129.209.255
> 
>I believe I need all these standard C-class broadcast addresses 
>because all other computers on the network use one 
>of these four lines as a broadcast address. 
> 
> c. netmask and network
>I don't know what I need for these.
>Indeed, with the problems I have with trying to solve 
>my networking problem through IP subnetworking and IP aliasing,
>I am unsure what approach to use with the above (a) and (b) restrictions.
>Any ideas?
> 

Harald

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Cannot echo capital M

2000-07-10 Thread M.K.Pai
Guys,

I am facing a rather strange problem.

I am unable to echo the character "M" on my bash prompt.

I am able to get M by 
perl -e 'print chr(77);'

I am even able to put it in an email. Note the "M" right here.
But at the bash prompt, I just don't get any M.

Most important, other users on this system, like root and all
others, are having no problems at all

Please help.

PAI



Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?

2000-07-10 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> I run Debian potato Linux (upgrading it weekly) within a network that
> others have setup for Microsoft Windows 95/98. This network has (over
> the same ethernet cables) computers and printers covering 4 C-class
> networks as follows [first 2 digits altered],
>10.129.206.0
>10.129.207.0
>10.129.208.0
>10.129.209.0
> My computer has the IP address,
>10.129.208.230
> HOW DO I GET MY LINUX COMPUTER TO WORK WELL IN A NETWORK OF 4 C-CLASSES?

[...]

In short, run these four commands as root on your Linux box:

route add -net 10.129.206.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0
route add -net 10.129.207.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0
route add -net 10.129.208.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0
route add -net 10.129.209.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0

This alters your routing table to tell the kernel that those four IP
networks are on the same physical network card.  Keep in mind, though that
the Win9x machines need the same done to them if they are to see your
system.

Do these four networks all use at the same router to get access to the
outside world?  It would make things a lot easier if you can get your
sysadmin to make these changes to the router's routing tables to get this
to work.

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