how to watch VCD?

2000-11-18 Thread Jerry
I'm trying to watch VCD with gtv and plaympeg
but it always tell me "vedio memory protecting",
what does that mean?
what sould I do before I can watch VCD?
please help me about it, thanks



Re: Okay, I give up. What do I put in apt-get's sources.list?

2000-11-18 Thread Brad
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 06:14:03PM -0800, Joe Emenaker wrote:
> I want apt to be able to get to the goodies at:
>   http://www.sandalwood.net/~terubou/linux/deb/
> 
> What do I put in sources.list?

Read http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0002/msg02422.html

So, the line looks like it should be:
 deb http://www.sandalwood.net/~terubou/linux/deb ./

Verifying that is left as an exercise for the reader ;)


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Re: Network config

2000-11-18 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 11:11:02AM +0800, Gilbert.Li (§õ«Â¾§) wrote: 

1. I am reading te list so there is no need to send me a private mail
too.
2. Please start to write at the beginning of a line. Your mails are
very hard to read.

> > What do you mean? Are you talking about a driver, which is not in the
> > kernel source-tree? You compile it and load the module via insmod or
> > modprobe.
> > Phil
>
>  The kernel source-tree have the network driver I need.
>  When I make menuconfig, I select built-in option for my network
> driver.
>  I don't use a module driver for my network card. I use built-in
> driver. I don't really think
>  I need insmod and modprobe, because the drivers is built-in in the
> kernel.

Ok, sure there is a driver in the kernel-tree but you should under all
circumstances try to compile the driver as a module because you can
load and unload it this way and not have to reboot every time you try
to set up your network.

>  And it seemed that kernel can detect my card. 
>  
> $cat /proc/pci

That does not mean, that the kernel detects your card but the the
PCI-system does.
What do your logfiles report while booting?
What type of card do you have and what driver did you select?

>   Is that possible this driver didn't  support built-in option. I can
> use this driver when I 
>   use it as a module. I will work fine. But when I compile it as a
> built-in driver, I want 
>   to know what should I do to make it work.  I tried to use
> /etc/network/interfaces and 
>   ifup and still didn't work. Please help me. Thanks. 

It's really simple and very well described in the Ethernet-HOWTO.
You compile the module. Yes, make it a module and not what you refer
to as a "built in"-driver.
Then you can load it. Check /var/log/messages or syslog to see if
everything was ok. Then you can start to set it up with ifup or add
the correct entrys to /etc/network/interfaces.
Phil



Re: Last woody upgrade = chaos?!

2000-11-18 Thread Ben Collins
> since woody runs great for me with 2.2, i suspect these failing packages
> are just the old ones build for libc6 2.1.x

Programs compiled against libc6 2.1.x should run perfectly fine under
libc6 2.2. So that isn't the issue.

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Re: Last woody upgrade = chaos?!

2000-11-18 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:05:29AM +0100, Toens Bueker wrote:
> 
> Hi *,
> 
> I use woody for quite a long time already - but during the update from 
> libc6 2.1.97-1 to libc6 2.2 something went wrong.
> 
> Several packages, which seem to use networking functions are now broken:
> 
> - syslogd
> - ping
> - ftp
> - emacs
> - apt-get
> 
> 
> Some of those try to open a socket in /var/run/.nscd_socket (which 
> does not exist). 

Trying to open that file is moot if you don't have nscd installed. They
will always try to open it, for any nss functions, and ignore the failure
if it doesn't not exist.

> Some just segfault (emacs).
> 
> >From former threads in this list I know, that there might be issues 
> with libnss*.
> 
> I really need that machine up and running again urgently - what can I do?
> Are there fixed packages maybe already somewhere in incoming?

I don't see these problems, and I haven't heard of anyone else having
these problems. What kernel are you running? What is your network
configuration? Sounds like an isolated local problem, most likely not even
related to glibc. Also saying "broken" is not really very helpful. Exact
error messages, and test cases are important. Neither of which you have
produced, so there is nothing I can go on to help you.

Ben

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Re: Compile error.

2000-11-18 Thread Corey Popelier
No, this driver will work with a 2.2.x kernel (I'm running it with
2.2.18pre21).
As for the error, is this definately the 0.9.5 drivers from nvidia?
And which TNT card have you got?
Mine says rev 4 in /proc/pci.

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On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> doesnt this driver require kernel 2.4.x ?
> 
> nate
> 
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Adam Wilson wrote:
> 
> adamw >I am trying to compile the drivers from nVidia's site for the TNT.
> adamw >I am running Debian Woody with kernel 2.2.17 and this is the error I
> adamw >recieve when I compile the driver.  Any hint to what may be the 
> problem?
> adamw >
> adamw > rm -f nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o Module-linux NVdriver
> adamw > cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O  -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE
> adamw >-D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1
> adamw >-Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I.
> adamw >-I/usr/src/linux/include nv.c
> adamw > cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O  -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE
> adamw >-D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1
> adamw >-Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I.
> adamw >-I/usr/src/linux/include os-interface.c
> adamw > cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O  -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE
> adamw >-D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1
> adamw >-Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I.
> adamw >-I/usr/src/linux/include os-registry.c
> adamw > ld -r -o Module-linux nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o
> adamw > ld -r -o NVdriver Module-linux Module-nvkernel
> adamw > size NVdriver
> adamw >text  data bss dec hex filename
> adamw >  387607 26944  40  414591   6537f NVdriver
> adamw > /lib/modules/2.2.17/video/NVdriver: unresolved symbol tqueue_lock
> adamw > /lib/modules/2.2.17/video/NVdriver: insmod
> adamw >/lib/modules/2.2.17/video/NVdriver failed
> adamw > /lib/modules/2.2.17/video/NVdriver: insmod NVdriver failed
> adamw >
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RE: Network config

2000-11-18 Thread 李威儒


> 
> > > Yes you need to have the module loaded for your network card
> > > before you can actually use the eth0 interface w/ 
> ifconfig and such.
> > > Silver
> > 
> >if I don't have a built-in network driver, how do I 
> configure the driver.
> 
> What do you mean? Are you talking about a driver, which is not in the
> kernel source-tree? You compile it and load the module via insmod or
> modprobe.
> Phil
   
 The kernel source-tree have the network driver I need.
 When I make menuconfig, I select built-in option for my network
driver.
 I don't use a module driver for my network card. I use built-in
driver. I don't really think
 I need insmod and modprobe, because the drivers is built-in in the
kernel.
 And it seemed that kernel can detect my card. 
 
$cat /proc/pci
Bus   0, device 14, function  0:
Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies Unknown device (rev 66).
Vendor id=1106. Device id=3065.
   Medium devsel.   IRQ 11.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=3.
Max Lat=8.
   I/O at 0x6100 [0x6101].
   Non-refectchable 32 bit memory at 0xe400 [0xe400].

  Is that possible this driver didn't  support built-in option. I can
use this driver when I 
  use it as a module. I will work fine. But when I compile it as a
built-in driver, I want 
  to know what should I do to make it work.  I tried to use
/etc/network/interfaces and 
  ifup and still didn't work. Please help me. Thanks. 
 
 




Re: capt & locale-zh

2000-11-18 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:43:14PM +0100, Johannes Zellner wrote:
> wow!
> 
> Trying to updgrade `locale-zh' with capt results in:
> 
> [-] Packages that will be deleted 
> 
>   [+] Req libc6base 2.2-1   3083   8312GNU C 
> Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data
> [-] Packages that will be upgraded
>   [+] Opt locale-zhadmin0.9+0.05-5 0.9+0.05-5 6152288Locale 
> definition files for Chinese (pre-glibc 2.1.94)

IMO, capt is broken if it thinks it can remove libc6, and not a few
hundred other packages :)

> After thinking a while about it, I guess I can delete `locale-zh'
> uncomment the entries in /etc/locale.gen, isn't it ?

That's the new deal. The locale-zh package is specific to libc6 2.1.3, so
it should actually be removed from woody. I show 5 zh locales in the libc6
2.2 i18ndata package.

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Re: Postscript printers

2000-11-18 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 11:58:27PM +0100, Moritz Schulte wrote: 

> Philipp Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > The 12i/n does speak TCP/IP too. I think it is really cool to connect
> > to my printer's ftp-server ;)
> 
> Hey, does it also have a builtin webserver? :)

I am pretty sure one would be able to flash a webserver in the EEPROM
but the problem is limited memory. But if there is a webserver for a
Palm why not for a printer?
Phil



# bye

2000-11-18 Thread makoto sugimoto


# bye

2000-11-18 Thread makoto sugimoto


Re: Minor? kernel woes...

2000-11-18 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:19:12PM -0800, brian moore wrote:

:That's normal.  Fix it by rm'ing it.  2.4 doesn't support
:'/dev/sndstat'.

Oh :)

:> I did complile in the correct card driver (twice), I get the same
:> behavior for /dev/pppox0.
:
:Never heard of that device.

It's for PPP encapsulation over whatever hence the "x", but really
it's for PPP over ethernet, this is a kernel option I *know* I hit,
even patched and rebuilt pppd to support it.

Well, not a huge problem have a userspace hack that keeps the DSL
PPPoE link running, maybe I did miss a dependency in the kernel
config.

Third time's a charm,
-Jon



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# bye



Re: Minor? kernel woes...

2000-11-18 Thread brian moore
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 09:01:51PM -0500, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Perhaps I should go to a kernel list with this, but...
> 
> Just installed 2.4.0-test10 and now a bunch of my devices are behaving
> oddly, such as:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] drivers]$ cat /dev/sndstat 
> cat: /dev/sndstat: No such device
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] drivers]$ ls -l !$
> ls -l /dev/sndstat
> crw-rw1 root audio 14,   6 Nov 17 18:45 /dev/sndstat

That's normal.  Fix it by rm'ing it.  2.4 doesn't support
'/dev/sndstat'.

> I did complile in the correct card driver (twice), I get the same
> behavior for /dev/pppox0.

Never heard of that device.

> I've tried both modular and compiled in with no change.

Won't make a difference with /dev/sndstat.

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Re: Q: RSA Authentication vs. Password Authentication in SSH

2000-11-18 Thread Brian May
> "Viktor" == Viktor Rosenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Viktor> What's the advantage of RSA Authentication vs. Password
Viktor> Authentication except that under the first one the sshd
Viktor> server does not trust the client unless he has authorized
Viktor> himself with a key listed in authorized keys.  This is
Viktor> desireable if the the client resides on the internet and
Viktor> can't be trusted, but on my local network that's not an
Viktor> issue.

Under RSA authentication, the server never sees your password. This
means that even if the remote server is compromised, your password
wont be (would be significant if you use the same password on multiple
computers).

Also, with ssh-agent, you only need to enter your passphrase once,
when first logging in to your local computer. This reduces the risk
that somebody looking over your shoulder will notice your password as
you type it in for the X millionth time (if your usage is anything
like mine...)

Viktor> However, if I disable the fallback to Password
Viktor> Authentication I can only log in from clients, that I have
Viktor> previously generated a key for and added to my
Viktor> authorized_keys database -- not practical, if I want to be
Viktor> able to log into my system from anywhere in the world.  So
Viktor> disabling fallback is not an option, rendering the RSA
Viktor> Authentication useless.

I don't think there is any need to disable password authentication.
Just be aware that both the client and the server could see your
password, and could potentially steal it.

Viktor> The key from an untrusted client needs of course to be
Viktor> protected with a passphrase, otherwise it may be easily
Viktor> compromised by the client's root and allow connections to
Viktor> my system without providing a password -- big security
Viktor> hole.

Of course. Use ssh-agent means you don't have to enter your passphrase
every-time though.

Viktor> But what about keys from clients from my trusted local
Viktor> network.  In order to get them one has to get access to
Viktor> the local machine first, and then they are useless,
Viktor> because the intruder has already access to my machine.
Viktor> Unless of course, a user key has no passphrase and is
Viktor> listed in root's authorized_keys file.  Then an intruder
Viktor> of my user account has instant root access on my machine
Viktor> -- but how likely is this?  Having no passphrase on user
Viktor> keys of the local network makes managing it very
Viktor> convenient.

I am afraid you have lost me here. Are you asking how you can securely
transfer the public keys of your clients (not an easy task), or have I
misunderstood you?
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Re: Postscript printers

2000-11-18 Thread C. Falconer

I have 4 HP Jetdirects at work - they're truely sexy.

Theres also a Lantronix print server which was legacy... it lacks syslog 
support, so when users tell me its not working I have to go run special 
software.  The jetdirects all log to loghost, which I have displayed on an 
old serial terminal.


Its great to be able to fix problems before the users report them thats 
the mark of a good network.


OKI lasers are (were) all rip-offs of HPs anyway.

At 11:58 PM 11/18/00 +0100, you wrote:

> The 12i/n does speak TCP/IP too. I think it is really cool to connect
> to my printer's ftp-server ;)

Hey, does it also have a builtin webserver? :)


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Re: Last woody upgrade = chaos?!

2000-11-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Toens Bueker wrote:
> I really need that machine up and running again urgently - what can I do?

If you need the machine that desperately, why is it running unstable?
This sounds like you made a bad choice..

Wichert.

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Minor? kernel woes...

2000-11-18 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
Hi,

Perhaps I should go to a kernel list with this, but...

Just installed 2.4.0-test10 and now a bunch of my devices are behaving
oddly, such as:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] drivers]$ cat /dev/sndstat 
cat: /dev/sndstat: No such device
[EMAIL PROTECTED] drivers]$ ls -l !$
ls -l /dev/sndstat
crw-rw1 root audio 14,   6 Nov 17 18:45 /dev/sndstat

I did complile in the correct card driver (twice), I get the same
behavior for /dev/pppox0.

I've tried both modular and compiled in with no change.


-Jon



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@#@%! debian list software!

2000-11-18 Thread Brendan Cully
Apparently the list manager automatically forwards any mail with
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>
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Q: RSA Authentication vs. Password Authentication in SSH

2000-11-18 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi list,

first some stats: Ten weeks without internet access (actually without a
phone line) directly translate into 11000+ messages on Debian User --
Argh!  Once again, thanks to my telco "Deutsche Telekom" for their great
service.  Not.

Anyway, guess I had a lot of time for reading and catching up on system
administration.  Here are my first questions:

What's the advantage of RSA Authentication vs. Password Authentication
except that under the first one the sshd server does not trust the
client unless he has authorized himself with a key listed in authorized
keys.  This is desireable if the the client resides on the internet and
can't be trusted, but on my local network that's not an issue.

However, if I disable the fallback to Password Authentication I can only
log in from clients, that I have previously generated a key for and
added to my authorized_keys database -- not practical, if I want to be
able to log into my system from anywhere in the world.  So disabling
fallback is not an option, rendering the RSA Authentication useless.

The key from an untrusted client needs of course to be protected with a
passphrase, otherwise it may be easily compromised by the client's root
and allow connections to my system without providing a password -- big
security hole.

But what about keys from clients from my trusted local network.  In
order to get them one has to get access to the local machine first, and
then they are useless, because the intruder has already access to my
machine.  Unless of course, a user key has no passphrase and is listed
in root's authorized_keys file.  Then an intruder of my user account has
instant root access on my machine -- but how likely is this?  Having no
passphrase on user keys of the local network makes managing it very
convenient.

Okay, anybody with more understanding of ssh help me out?  BTW, I'm
still running ssh 1.2.26 protocol version 1.5 that comes with slink, but
the issues should be the same with protocol version 2.0.

TIA,
Viktor
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NCR53C9x (MCA) SCSI problem with scanner

2000-11-18 Thread Shawn D'Alimonte
I am trying to hook a scanner up to my NCR 3350 using the built in SCSI 
controller but the machine is crashing when I try to use it.  I tried 
searching with Google and Deja but couldn't find anything.  

The machine is:
NCR 3350 (486dx2 upgraded to AMD586, 16MB RAM, MCA bus)
Debian Potato 2.2r1/DRDOS 7.02 (Linux loaded by Loadlin)
Built in NCR53C9x SCSI controller with:
2 Harddrives, and CDROM internal
HP ScanJet IIp scanner
No ID conflicts, no other SCSI problems.

When I run find-scanner I get the message "NMI generated from unknown 
source!" and the SCSI bus locks up (LED on solid).   Does anyone 
know what causes this?

Here is the SCSI info from dmesg:

SCSI ID 7  Clock 25 MHz CCF=0 Time-Out 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) detected
 Adapter found in slot  5: io port 0x240 irq 5 dma channel 3
scsi0 : NCR 53c9x SCSI
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: SEAGATE   Model: ST31230N  Rev: HP04
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
  Vendor: CONNERModel: CP30540 545MB3.5  Rev: B0C2
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0
  Vendor: HPModel: C1790ARev: 3226
  Type:   Processor  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
  Vendor: TOSHIBA   Model: CD-ROM XM-3401TA  Rev: 2873
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total.
esp0: target 1 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI]
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2051460 [1001 MB] 
[1.0 GB]
esp0: target 2 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI]
SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 1045242 [510 MB] [0.5 
GB]
eth0: SMC Ethercard PLUS Elite/A UTP/AUI (WD8013WP/A) found in slot 4
eth0: Parameters: 0x800, 00 00 C0 DB B9 09, IRQ 10 memory 
0xc-0xc3fff.
Partition check:
 sda: sda1 sda2
 sdb: sdb1  
   
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Re: I want out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:23:56PM -0800, rik M antropov wrote:
> I want to be off all your mailing lists and forums.

?? So leave. 

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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
Hi,

There's quite a bit on the list about your question, but it doesn't
seem like you're getting all of it, so to summarize:

To unpack the driver you downloaded:
you can `tar -xzvf whaterveritcallsitsself`
or
mv foo~1 driver.tgz then untar it
or
mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy to get long filenames on the floppy

-Jon



Re: Last woody upgrade = chaos?!

2000-11-18 Thread Toens Bueker
Alson van der Meulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > When was your last 'apt-get dist-upgrade'? I don't really know what's wrong
> > - and that worries me ...
>
> yesterday
> 
> attached is a ls -l of my /lib, so you can compare some versions of libs

That was very helpful - I had one lib more than you (libnss-ldap). And
obviously that one was the problem. I purged and re-installed it - and now 
it didn't reconfigure /etc/nsswitch.conf. Et voilá - we're back to business.

Thank you.

by
Töns



Re: I want out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2000-11-18 Thread rik M antropov
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[OT] Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx

the three R's of NT system administration (as occationally practiced
by me), Retry, Reboot, Reinstall...

Thankfully folks around here (MIT) are smart enough not to rely on
Windows being stable.

-Jon



Re: Last woody upgrade = chaos?!

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 01:00:43AM +0100, Toens Bueker wrote:
> Alson van der Meulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > Several packages, which seem to use networking functions are now broken:
> > > 
> > > - syslogd
> > > - ping
> > > - ftp
> > > - emacs
> > > - apt-get
> > > 
> > > Some of those try to open a socket in /var/run/.nscd_socket (which 
> > > does not exist). 
> > > 
> > > Some just segfault (emacs).
> >
> > are you sure these packages really are upgraded? it is possible apt stopped
> > for some reason (some time) after libc was upgraded, and didn't install new
> > versions of these packages. it's also possible your mirror doesn't have all
> > new packages, that's the reason i've 3 mirrors in sources.list, try adding
> > an other mirror (or ftp to a mirror by hand and look for new apt package).
> 
> Hmm. I checked the version of those packages on ftp.debian.org - they're all 
> on the current version.
> 
> > since woody runs great for me with 2.2, i suspect these failing packages
> > are just the old ones build for libc6 2.1.x
> 
> I would be really happy if it was that easy :-)
> 
> When was your last 'apt-get dist-upgrade'? I don't really know what's wrong
> - and that worries me ...
yesterday

attached is a ls -l of my /lib, so you can compare some versions of libs

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total 4849
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 Oct 23 01:33 cpp -> /usr/bin/cpp
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root98325 Nov 11 02:20 ld-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   18 Oct 23 01:21 ld-linux.so.1 -> 
ld-linux.so.1.9.11
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root24789 Oct 19 04:02 ld-linux.so.1.9.11
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Nov 12 21:18 ld-linux.so.2 -> 
ld-2.2.so
-rwxr-xr-x2 root root99552 Oct 19 04:02 ld.so
-rwxr-xr-x2 root root99552 Oct 19 04:02 ld.so.1.9.11
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3640 Nov 11 02:20 libBrokenLocale-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   22 Nov 12 21:18 libBrokenLocale.so.1 -> 
libBrokenLocale-2.2.so
-rw-r--r--1 root root10708 Nov 11 02:20 libSegFault.so
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1074568 Nov 11 02:20 libc-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 Feb  1  2000 libc.so.5 -> 
libc.so.5.4.46
-rw-r--r--1 root root   586720 Feb  9  1999 libc.so.5.4.46
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   11 Nov 12 21:18 libc.so.6 -> libc-2.2.so
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 1024 Feb  9  1999 libc5-compat
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 Jul  2 15:36 libcfont.so.0 -> 
libcfont.so.0.0.0
-rw-r--r--1 root root12376 Jun 19 22:12 libcfont.so.0.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 Oct 23 00:59 libcom_err.so.2 -> 
libcom_err.so.2.0
-rw-r--r--1 root root 5288 Aug  3 00:38 libcom_err.so.2.0
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   19 Jul  2 15:36 libconsole.so.0 -> 
libconsole.so.0.0.0
-rw-r--r--1 root root61268 Jun 19 22:12 libconsole.so.0.0.0
-rw-r--r--1 root root20788 Nov 11 02:20 libcrypt-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   15 Nov 12 21:18 libcrypt.so.1 -> 
libcrypt-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   19 Jul  2 15:36 libctutils.so.0 -> 
libctutils.so.0.0.0
-rw-r--r--1 root root18296 Jun 19 22:12 libctutils.so.0.0.0
-rw-r--r--1 root root   237708 Nov 11 02:20 libdb-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   13 Nov 12 21:18 libdb.so.2 -> 
libdb1-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 Nov 12 21:18 libdb.so.3 -> 
libdb-2.2.so
-rw-r--r--1 root root50876 Nov 11 02:20 libdb1-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   13 Nov 12 21:18 libdb1.so.2 -> 
libdb1-2.2.so
-rw-r--r--1 root root 8792 Nov 11 02:20 libdl-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   15 Oct 23 01:21 libdl.so.1 -> 
libdl.so.1.9.11
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 6188 Oct 19 04:02 libdl.so.1.9.11
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 Nov 12 21:18 libdl.so.2 -> 
libdl-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   13 Oct 23 00:59 libe2p.so.2 -> 
libe2p.so.2.3
-rw-r--r--1 root root12984 Aug  3 00:38 libe2p.so.2.3
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   16 Oct 23 00:59 libext2fs.so.2 -> 
libext2fs.so.2.4
-rw-r--r--1 root root67556 Aug  3 00:38 libext2fs.so.2.4
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 Oct 23 00:56 libhistory.so.4 -> 
libhistory.so.4.1
-rw-r--r--1 root root21084 Oct  9 20:42 libhistory.so.4.1
-rw-r--r--1 root root   117224 Nov 11 02:20 libm-2.2.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   13 Feb  1  2000 libm.so.5 -> 
libm.so.5.0.9
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:52:05PM -0500, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote:
> 
> 
> You most certainly *do not* need to reboot
> 
> 
> That's what loadable modules are all about, inserting kernel level
> code without a reboot :)

:) Indignity justfied. 

A common joke at work is why, when we produce products that can do
in-service upgrades of software without dropping network traffic (Nortel
Networks), so many people seem to use PCs running an OS that requires them to
reboot if they change anything but their wallpaper. ;-)

Mike

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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:49:14PM -0500, Brett Singer wrote:

> nothing that starts with a '3c' seems to work - i think i have the tulip
> driver (3c90x), but it's on a windows machine, and when i try to move it to
> the linux box via floppy the filename truncates.  what to do?

Hmm. The tulip driver for me is called "tulip". Do you have a tulip.o in
your net directory?

Mike

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Re: Last woody upgrade = chaos?!

2000-11-18 Thread Toens Bueker
Alson van der Meulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Several packages, which seem to use networking functions are now broken:
> > 
> > - syslogd
> > - ping
> > - ftp
> > - emacs
> > - apt-get
> > 
> > Some of those try to open a socket in /var/run/.nscd_socket (which 
> > does not exist). 
> > 
> > Some just segfault (emacs).
>
> are you sure these packages really are upgraded? it is possible apt stopped
> for some reason (some time) after libc was upgraded, and didn't install new
> versions of these packages. it's also possible your mirror doesn't have all
> new packages, that's the reason i've 3 mirrors in sources.list, try adding
> an other mirror (or ftp to a mirror by hand and look for new apt package).

Hmm. I checked the version of those packages on ftp.debian.org - they're all 
on the current version.

> since woody runs great for me with 2.2, i suspect these failing packages
> are just the old ones build for libc6 2.1.x

I would be really happy if it was that easy :-)

When was your last 'apt-get dist-upgrade'? I don't really know what's wrong
- and that worries me ...

by
Töns



Re: anXious usage?

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:50:40PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
>   Wehn I isntalled from Potato afewhours gao, the install ran a nice 
> program
>   which I have found to be called abXious and prompted me through the X 
> setup.
>   Well to be honest, I made bad choices.
> 
>   I found this programs  name as a comment in the begining of
>   /etc/X11/XF86config. Now when I run it, it just does nothng. The prompt 
> comes
>   right back :-(
> 
>   How can I use this program to re setup my X server?
XF86Setup and xf86config are a bit less nice, but at least xf86config should 
work,
since it's text-only. XF86Setup requires vga16 to work with your card, which 
doesn't
happen for me but should usually happen, if XF86Setup fails, try xf86config.
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread urbanyon
i think that modconf gets you back to that part of the installation - the
only thing is, it doesn't help you if your device isn't listed.  that
said, it's waaay better than starting from scratch (which i've done a few
times now).

On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:27:26PM -0600, sc wrote:
> 
> > This was an option in the installation process if I'm not mistaken where 
> > it asks you what's the main way you'll be connecting to the Internet or 
> > if you computer is on a network already.  Then you enter in all the 
> > relevant info (IP address, router info, etc.)  You could modify the 
> > network files by hand though.
> 
> Is there a way of invoking that state of the installer? Seems like a nice
> tool for beginners and it'd be a pain to tell them to install all over again.
> Or can you just skip ahead in the install process?
> 
> Mike
> 
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:45:35PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

:...or do you have to reboot first? Probably not. That's mostly a winblows
:thing. 


You most certainly *do not* need to reboot


That's what loadable modules are all about, inserting kernel level
code without a reboot :)

-Jon




RE: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Brett Singer
> Did you need to install any software on the Windows machine (other
> than the ethernet device driver)?  If not you're probably in luck and
> the protocol between your machine and the DSL box is "normal" IP
> stuff.  If you're connection from windows just involves setting TCP/IP
> on the card to use DHCP, this is good

no other software other than the driver - oh good, something that works :)

> The OS is not seeing your card, as a wild shot (not really knowing
> your card) try, as root:
>
> bash# insmod 3c59x
>
> this will (try) to load the driver for newer 3com PCI cards, if this
> fails, you can `cd` to /lib/modules//net
>
> an `ls` will show you the available drivers, yours will probably start
> with 3c although some 3com cards use a tulip chip set. Try `insmod
> ` untill you don't get an error message :)

nothing that starts with a '3c' seems to work - i think i have the tulip
driver (3c90x), but it's on a windows machine, and when i try to move it to
the linux box via floppy the filename truncates.  what to do?

thanks,

-b


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan D. Proulx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 6:39 PM
To: Brett Singer
Cc: Jonathan D. Proulx; urbanyon; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: HELP!!!


On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:24:40PM -0500, Brett Singer wrote:


:not sure i follow you - tell me if this helps to clarify the situation:
:
:on the windows machines i'm using, it was pretty much plug and go - once
the
:cards were installed, i plugged in the ethernet cable, got an 'automatic'
IP
:address, and that was it.  the router does the rest.  which, of course, is
:what's going to make the linux install more difficult ;-)

Did you need to install any software on the Windows machine (other
than the ethernet device driver)?  If not you're probably in luck and
the protocol between your machine and the DSL box is "normal" IP
stuff.  If you're connection from windows just involves setting TCP/IP
on the card to use DHCP, this is good


:tried this:
:
:> bash$ /sbin/ifconfig -a
:
:which got me:
:
:lo Link encap:Local loopback
: 

The OS is not seeing your card, as a wild shot (not really knowing
your card) try, as root:

bash# insmod 3c59x

this will (try) to load the driver for newer 3com PCI cards, if this
fails, you can `cd` to /lib/modules//net

an `ls` will show you the available drivers, yours will probably start
with 3c although some 3com cards use a tulip chip set. Try `insmod
` untill you don't get an error message :)

-Jon



anXious usage?

2000-11-18 Thread Stan Brown
Wehn I isntalled from Potato afewhours gao, the install ran a nice 
program
which I have found to be called abXious and prompted me through the X 
setup.
Well to be honest, I made bad choices.

I found this programs  name as a comment in the begining of
/etc/X11/XF86config. Now when I run it, it just does nothng. The prompt 
comes
right back :-(

How can I use this program to re setup my X server?

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Re: X setup help, please

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:39:28PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Sat Nov 18 18:10:07 2000 Alson van der Meulen wrote...
> >
> >On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:59:50PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> >>Seting up a recycled machine for Dabian Potato. Superprobe returns:
> >> 
> >>First video: Super-VGA
> >>Chipset: Trident GUI 9680 (PCI Probed)
> >>Memory:  1024 Kbytes
> >> 
> >>RAMDAC:  Trident Built-In 15/16/24-bit DAC
> >>(with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))
> >> 
> >> 
> >>So what sort of resoloutin/color depth cobos should I be able to get? I
> >>selected 24 bit color during install and would up with a truly horible
> >>resolutin. Something like 480x360 or something :-(
> >
> >i get 800x600 for 16-bit and 1024x768 for 8-bit with a similar card, s3 
> >trio64,
> >1 mb vidram. 24-bit will probably do 640x480 (640*480*3 <= 1mb), you can 
> >calculate
> >it yourself by multiplying the width with the height and with (color depth / 
> >8),
> >for example 800*600*2 (=800x600, 16 bit) = 96 <= 1mb
> 
>   Cool. I think I'll try the 800x600 at 16 bit.
> 
>   Now what was the name of that nice friendly config program that ran at 
> install
>   time? It told me it's nae, but I forgoti it.
XF86Setup or xf86config
XF86Setup is more user-friendly, but needs the vga16 server to work for your 
card
(it does not for mine, but it should usually do)

if XF86Setup fails, try xf86config, it works too, though not too user-friendly
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:32:20PM -0500, urbanyon wrote:

> Fast Ethernet PCI Network Interface Card, Model # 3CSOHO100-TX.
> 
> i downloaded what i think is the same driver (3c90x), but the thing is, it
> comes as a tar file, and when i move it (via floppy) from my windows
> machine to the linux box, the filename truncates.  of course, i could
> just download the driver directly to the linux machine, BUT I CAN'T GET 
> THE CARD INSTALLED!  any way around that?

You can rename the file with mv. Or you can make sure you mount the floppy
as filesystem vfat, so that it supports win95 long filenames. The name is
irrelevant anyway. If it's a tarfile, you can untar it. 

mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy

or something like that, to mount the floppy at /floppy. 

cat /etc/mtab to see what's mounted, and as what. You should have full
win95 filename support. 

Once you build the driver, if it's the correct driver the rest should be
fairly simple. 

BTW, there's a few there with the 3c prefix...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ ls /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/3c*
/lib/modules/2.2.17/net/3c501.o  /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/3c515.o
/lib/modules/2.2.17/net/3c503.o  /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/3c523.o
/lib/modules/2.2.17/net/3c505.o  /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/3c527.o
/lib/modules/2.2.17/net/3c507.o  /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/3c59x.o
/lib/modules/2.2.17/net/3c509.o

Not the same as the one you downloaded, but one might be compatible. 

man modprobe
man depmod

When you install yours, do a depmod -a to rebuild the dependencies file,
and then modprobe  should load it. Then try that ifconfig -a again and
see if you've got a card. 
...or do you have to reboot first? Probably not. That's mostly a winblows
thing. 

Mike

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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:32:20PM -0500, urbanyon wrote:
> >
> > What's the make and model?
> Fast Ethernet PCI Network Interface Card, Model # 3CSOHO100-TX.
> 
> > Mine wasn't seen either, until I loaded the correct kernel module.
> I'm
> > using a 3COM PCI Fast Ethernet card, which was compatible with the tulip
> > driver. I just tried it out and it worked.  
> 
> i downloaded what i think is the same driver (3c90x), but the thing is, it
> comes as a tar file, and when i move it (via floppy) from my windows
> machine to the linux box, the filename truncates.  of course, i could
> just download the driver directly to the linux machine, BUT I CAN'T GET 
> THE CARD INSTALLED!  any way around that?
the 3c59x driver is the usual driver for 3c900/3c905 nics, try loading that
one, it should work. the 3com driver is possibly better, but you can try
that after your network is configured, try using the 3c59x driver that should
be listed in modconf for now. it works fine for me for pretty some time now.

> 
> 
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:10:33PM -0500, urbanyon wrote:
> > > sorry about the last message - "dmesg" does work, but i don't see the
> > > ethernet card.  what to do?
> > 
> > What's the make and model? 
> > 
> > Mine wasn't seen either, until I loaded the correct kernel module. I'm
> > using a 3COM PCI Fast Ethernet card, which was compatible with the tulip
> > driver. I just tried it out and it worked. 
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:32:20PM -0500, urbanyon wrote:

:i downloaded what i think is the same driver (3c90x), but the thing is, it
:comes as a tar file, and when i move it (via floppy) from my windows
:machine to the linux box, the filename truncates.  of course, i could
:just download the driver directly to the linux machine, BUT I CAN'T GET 
:THE CARD INSTALLED!  any way around that?

you can just rename the file using `mv 
`, asssuming it's a .tgz (or .tar.gz) file:

$ tar -xzvf file.tgz

will open it up (x = extract, z = zipped, v = verbose, f = file)

-Jon



Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:27:26PM -0600, sc wrote:

> This was an option in the installation process if I'm not mistaken where 
> it asks you what's the main way you'll be connecting to the Internet or 
> if you computer is on a network already.  Then you enter in all the 
> relevant info (IP address, router info, etc.)  You could modify the 
> network files by hand though.

Is there a way of invoking that state of the installer? Seems like a nice
tool for beginners and it'd be a pain to tell them to install all over again.
Or can you just skip ahead in the install process?

Mike

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Re: X setup help, please

2000-11-18 Thread Stan Brown
On Sat Nov 18 18:10:07 2000 Alson van der Meulen wrote...
>
>On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:59:50PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
>>  Seting up a recycled machine for Dabian Potato. Superprobe returns:
>> 
>>  First video: Super-VGA
>>  Chipset: Trident GUI 9680 (PCI Probed)
>>  Memory:  1024 Kbytes
>> 
>>  RAMDAC:  Trident Built-In 15/16/24-bit DAC
>>  (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))
>> 
>> 
>>  So what sort of resoloutin/color depth cobos should I be able to get? I
>>  selected 24 bit color during install and would up with a truly horible
>>  resolutin. Something like 480x360 or something :-(
>
>i get 800x600 for 16-bit and 1024x768 for 8-bit with a similar card, s3 trio64,
>1 mb vidram. 24-bit will probably do 640x480 (640*480*3 <= 1mb), you can 
>calculate
>it yourself by multiplying the width with the height and with (color depth / 
>8),
>for example 800*600*2 (=800x600, 16 bit) = 96 <= 1mb

Cool. I think I'll try the 800x600 at 16 bit.

Now what was the name of that nice friendly config program that ran at 
install
time? It told me it's nae, but I forgoti it.

-- 
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Charleston SC.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:24:40PM -0500, Brett Singer wrote:


:not sure i follow you - tell me if this helps to clarify the situation:
:
:on the windows machines i'm using, it was pretty much plug and go - once the
:cards were installed, i plugged in the ethernet cable, got an 'automatic' IP
:address, and that was it.  the router does the rest.  which, of course, is
:what's going to make the linux install more difficult ;-)

Did you need to install any software on the Windows machine (other
than the ethernet device driver)?  If not you're probably in luck and
the protocol between your machine and the DSL box is "normal" IP
stuff.  If you're connection from windows just involves setting TCP/IP
on the card to use DHCP, this is good


:tried this:
:
:> bash$ /sbin/ifconfig -a
:
:which got me:
:
:lo Link encap:Local loopback
: 

The OS is not seeing your card, as a wild shot (not really knowing
your card) try, as root:

bash# insmod 3c59x

this will (try) to load the driver for newer 3com PCI cards, if this
fails, you can `cd` to /lib/modules//net

an `ls` will show you the available drivers, yours will probably start
with 3c although some 3com cards use a tulip chip set. Try `insmod
` untill you don't get an error message :)

-Jon



Re: Netscape 6.0

2000-11-18 Thread kmself
>   - NS 4.57:  still primary for graphics, though I curse it every time I
s/4.57/4.75/

Bah!

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 Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc.  http://www.zelerate.org
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread urbanyon
> prevent you from setting up your network card successfully unless your
> card is supported by the list on the CD. 

that's it - it's not supported.

> Have you tried using modconf and selecting other network cards to see if
> there's another 3COM listing you can use?  

none of the others seem to work - the install just hangs.

> Can you at least ping the network or your own machine's IP address?  

nope, not yet.

On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, sc wrote:

> On 11/18/00 3:21 PM, urbanyon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >i am using a cdrom that came with the book 'learning debian gnu/linux'
> >(oreilly).  various packages that even the book tells i need are not on
> >there.  
> 
> I've done installations from that CD before on LAN network connected 
> systems successfully.  There shouldn't be anything missing from the CD to 
> prevent you from setting up your network card successfully unless your 
> card is supported by the list on the CD.
> 
> >i am connecting to the 'net via a
> >dsl-type connection, using a netopia router.  the network card in the
> >potential debian machine is a 3com PCI card, model # 3CSOHO100-TX.  
> 
> Have you tried using modconf and selecting other network cards to see if 
> there's another 3COM listing you can use?
> 
> >here are my questions:
> >
> >1. is there a program that i can use to set up a 'net connection using my
> >NIC?
> 
> This was an option in the installation process if I'm not mistaken where 
> it asks you what's the main way you'll be connecting to the Internet or 
> if you computer is on a network already.  Then you enter in all the 
> relevant info (IP address, router info, etc.)  You could modify the 
> network files by hand though.
> 
> >2. do i need to do anything to check that the NIC is, in fact, installed?
> 
> Can you at least ping the network or your own machine's IP address?
> 
> 
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread urbanyon
>
> What's the make and model?
Fast Ethernet PCI Network Interface Card, Model # 3CSOHO100-TX.

> Mine wasn't seen either, until I loaded the correct kernel module.
I'm
> using a 3COM PCI Fast Ethernet card, which was compatible with the tulip
> driver. I just tried it out and it worked.  

i downloaded what i think is the same driver (3c90x), but the thing is, it
comes as a tar file, and when i move it (via floppy) from my windows
machine to the linux box, the filename truncates.  of course, i could
just download the driver directly to the linux machine, BUT I CAN'T GET 
THE CARD INSTALLED!  any way around that?


On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:10:33PM -0500, urbanyon wrote:
> > sorry about the last message - "dmesg" does work, but i don't see the
> > ethernet card.  what to do?
> 
> What's the make and model? 
> 
> Mine wasn't seen either, until I loaded the correct kernel module. I'm
> using a 3COM PCI Fast Ethernet card, which was compatible with the tulip
> driver. I just tried it out and it worked. 
> 
> Mike
> 
> -- 
> Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
> of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
> PGP Public Key: http://www.storm.ca/~msoulier/personal.html
> 



Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread sc
On 11/18/00 3:21 PM, urbanyon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>i am using a cdrom that came with the book 'learning debian gnu/linux'
>(oreilly).  various packages that even the book tells i need are not on
>there.  

I've done installations from that CD before on LAN network connected 
systems successfully.  There shouldn't be anything missing from the CD to 
prevent you from setting up your network card successfully unless your 
card is supported by the list on the CD.

>i am connecting to the 'net via a
>dsl-type connection, using a netopia router.  the network card in the
>potential debian machine is a 3com PCI card, model # 3CSOHO100-TX.  

Have you tried using modconf and selecting other network cards to see if 
there's another 3COM listing you can use?

>here are my questions:
>
>1. is there a program that i can use to set up a 'net connection using my
>NIC?

This was an option in the installation process if I'm not mistaken where 
it asks you what's the main way you'll be connecting to the Internet or 
if you computer is on a network already.  Then you enter in all the 
relevant info (IP address, router info, etc.)  You could modify the 
network files by hand though.

>2. do i need to do anything to check that the NIC is, in fact, installed?

Can you at least ping the network or your own machine's IP address?



RE: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Brett Singer
thanks for the quick response!

> I have some user space hacks to get PPPoE to work (this is what most
> ISP around the US use), if you need this email me directly and I will
> forward it off the list so as not to suck up everyone's band width.

not sure i follow you - tell me if this helps to clarify the situation:

on the windows machines i'm using, it was pretty much plug and go - once the
cards were installed, i plugged in the ethernet cable, got an 'automatic' IP
address, and that was it.  the router does the rest.  which, of course, is
what's going to make the linux install more difficult ;-)

if you want to forward something to me directly, send it to this address:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

tried this:

> bash$ /sbin/ifconfig -a

which got me:

lo  Link encap:Local loopback
  

any thoughts?

thanks!

-b



-Original Message-
From: Jonathan D. Proulx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 6:15 PM
To: urbanyon
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP!!!


Hi,

you're in a world of hurt with DSL and I feel your pain :)

I have some user space hacks to get PPPoE to work (this is what most
ISP around the US use), if you need this email me directly and I will
forward it off the list so as not to suck up everyone's band width.

Note if your ISP is using PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE) encapsulation you
cannot just configure your ethernet card and go, infact your ethernet
card needs *not* to have any IP info configured, but that comes later.

First things second:

bash$ /sbin/ifconfig -a

if you see something like:
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:C9:06:30:9B
  

You're in buisiness with the card, if not `man modconf`, modconf is a
utility for dealing with kernel modules like the ethernet drivers.

good luck,
-Jon



Re: Help with cron settings?

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:03:01PM -0600, sc wrote:
> On 11/18/00 4:26 PM, Alson van der Meulen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >try 5,10,15 * * * * sunkcost /bin/tar -cf /home/sunkcost/test.tar 
> >/home/sunkcost/test.txt
> >
> >you forgot a *, so cron tried to interpet sunkcost as day of week, which
> >doesn't really work
> 
> Oops.  This was a mistake on my part in writing the e-mail.  I've got 4 
> *s in the actual file.  
you can run crontab -e as user sunkcost, and put
5,10,15 * * * * sunkcost /bin/tar -cf /home/sunkcost/test.tar 
/home/sunkcost/test.txt
there

if this doesn't work, there's probably something wrong with cron, read the logs
(/var/log/syslog for me), or try adding something very simple, like
* * * * * /usr/bin/touch /tmp/cron_ran
with crontab -e in root's or sunkcost's crontab

if you want to edit a user's crontab, always use crontab -e, /etc/cron.d is
mainly meant for packages to install cron entries.

-- 
,---.
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> Personal:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   <
> School:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]<
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:10:33PM -0500, urbanyon wrote:
> sorry about the last message - "dmesg" does work, but i don't see the
> ethernet card.  what to do?

What's the make and model? 

Mine wasn't seen either, until I loaded the correct kernel module. I'm
using a 3COM PCI Fast Ethernet card, which was compatible with the tulip
driver. I just tried it out and it worked. 

Mike

-- 
Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:06:12PM -0500, urbanyon wrote:
> 
> :-)  Can you suggest a better book?  it's nice to have a reference.

If you don't know Unix at all, then the Sams-Net Debian book looks good. I
didn't get it since there's too much basic knowledge there that I already have
and not enough Debian-specific material. 

Hmm. Here's a nice list.

http://www.de.debian.org/distrib/books

> "dmesg" doesn't work.  try something else, or is it something i need to
> install?

It's in the util-linux package. There's some rather vital stuff in there,
are you sure it's just not in your path?

dpkg -l "*util*" | grep ^i

Should be in the /bin directory. It gives you all the messages sent to the
console during boot. 

Mike


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Re: Last woody upgrade = chaos?!

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:05:29AM +0100, Toens Bueker wrote:
> 
> Hi *,
> 
> I use woody for quite a long time already - but during the update from 
> libc6 2.1.97-1 to libc6 2.2 something went wrong.
> 
> Several packages, which seem to use networking functions are now broken:
> 
> - syslogd
> - ping
> - ftp
> - emacs
> - apt-get
> 
> 
> Some of those try to open a socket in /var/run/.nscd_socket (which 
> does not exist). 
> 
> Some just segfault (emacs).
> 
> >From former threads in this list I know, that there might be issues 
> with libnss*.
> 
> I really need that machine up and running again urgently - what can I do?
> Are there fixed packages maybe already somewhere in incoming?
are you sure these packages really are upgraded? it is possible apt stopped
for some reason (some time) after libc was upgraded, and didn't install new
versions of these packages. it's also possible your mirror doesn't have all
new packages, that's the reason i've 3 mirrors in sources.list, try adding
an other mirror (or ftp to a mirror by hand and look for new apt package).

i'm running libc6 2.2 for some time now, and all are working ok.
if you can't use ftp/wget/lynx, download them from another machine and
transport them to the broken one via nfs or floppy disks.

since woody runs great for me with 2.2, i suspect these failing packages
are just the old ones build for libc6 2.1.x

-- 
,---.
> Name:   Alson van der Meulen  <
> Personal:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   <
> School:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]<
`---'
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-



Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
Hi,

you're in a world of hurt with DSL and I feel your pain :)

I have some user space hacks to get PPPoE to work (this is what most
ISP around the US use), if you need this email me directly and I will
forward it off the list so as not to suck up everyone's band width.

Note if your ISP is using PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE) encapsulation you
cannot just configure your ethernet card and go, infact your ethernet
card needs *not* to have any IP info configured, but that comes later.

First things second:

bash$ /sbin/ifconfig -a

if you see something like:
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:C9:06:30:9B  
  

You're in buisiness with the card, if not `man modconf`, modconf is a
utility for dealing with kernel modules like the ethernet drivers.

good luck,
-Jon



Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread sc
On 11/18/00 5:06 PM, urbanyon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> Ah. What a crappy book. It was my first Debian book, and install,
>> too.
>
>:-)  Can you suggest a better book?  it's nice to have a reference.

>From this newbie's standpoint, I didn't think the O'Reilly book was all 
that bad as an intro for a beginner in terms of providing a broad 
overview.  It was good enough for me to easily install on a dusty 586 and 
use as a file/print server at work.  

As a reference, it's too skimpy.  I got more mileage out of the Sams' 
Debian Unleashed doorstop, particularly the Samba section.  Still haven't 
gotten to the point where I can just totally rely on man pages, I guess.  
 ;)



Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread urbanyon
sorry about the last message - "dmesg" does work, but i don't see the
ethernet card.  what to do?

On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, urbanyon wrote:

> 
> > Ah. What a crappy book. It was my first Debian book, and install,
> > too.
> 
> :-)  Can you suggest a better book?  it's nice to have a reference.
> 
> > Try "dmesg | grep eth". Typically your first NIC on a PC will be
> called
> > "eth0". 
> 
> "dmesg" doesn't work.  try something else, or is it something i need to
> install?
> 
> thanks!!!
> 
> -b
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:21:54PM -0500, urbanyon wrote:
> > > 
> > > i am using a cdrom that came with the book 'learning debian gnu/linux'
> > > (oreilly).  various packages that even the book tells i need are not on
> > 
> > Ah. What a crappy book. It was my first Debian book, and install, too.
> > Note: It is _not_ Debian 2.1. It's a modified copy of Slink, with some 
> > Potato
> > packages thrown in, and the kernel was modified by VA Linux Systems. 
> > When I tried to enable networking, I got void pointer errors from the
> > Kernel and then it panicked. As soon as I got a stock Debian kernel all the
> > problems that I was having went away. I'd recommend you replace the kernel 
> > on
> > the CD ASAP. 
> > 
> > > 1. is there a program that i can use to set up a 'net connection using my
> > > NIC?
> > 
> > Not really, but you don't really need one. If your NIC is recognized, 
> > you
> > can set yourself up with a static IP via ifconfig and route. If your ISP 
> > wants
> > you to use dhcp, use dhcpcd or pump. 
> > 
> > > 2. do i need to do anything to check that the NIC is, in fact, installed?
> > 
> > Try "dmesg | grep eth". Typically your first NIC on a PC will be called
> > "eth0".
> > 
> > > 3. i've been using apt-get - what should my sources.list file read?
> > 
> > This'll do for potato.
> > 
> > deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian potato   main contrib non-free
> > 
> > You'd need a working connection of course. For the CD, just use
> > 
> > deb file:/cdrom stable main contrib
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > -- 
> > Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
> > of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
> > PGP Public Key: http://www.storm.ca/~msoulier/personal.html
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: X setup help, please

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:59:50PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
>   Seting up a recycled machine for Dabian Potato. Superprobe returns:
> 
>   First video: Super-VGA
>   Chipset: Trident GUI 9680 (PCI Probed)
>   Memory:  1024 Kbytes
> 
>   RAMDAC:  Trident Built-In 15/16/24-bit DAC
>   (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))
> 
> 
>   So what sort of resoloutin/color depth cobos should I be able to get? I
>   selected 24 bit color during install and would up with a truly horible
>   resolutin. Something like 480x360 or something :-(

i get 800x600 for 16-bit and 1024x768 for 8-bit with a similar card, s3 trio64,
1 mb vidram. 24-bit will probably do 640x480 (640*480*3 <= 1mb), you can 
calculate
it yourself by multiplying the width with the height and with (color depth / 8),
for example 800*600*2 (=800x600, 16 bit) = 96 <= 1mb

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> Personal:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   <
> School:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]<
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Re: Help with cron settings?

2000-11-18 Thread sc
On 11/18/00 4:26 PM, Alson van der Meulen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>try 5,10,15 * * * * sunkcost /bin/tar -cf /home/sunkcost/test.tar 
>/home/sunkcost/test.txt
>
>you forgot a *, so cron tried to interpet sunkcost as day of week, which
>doesn't really work

Oops.  This was a mistake on my part in writing the e-mail.  I've got 4 
*s in the actual file.  



Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread urbanyon

> Ah. What a crappy book. It was my first Debian book, and install,
> too.

:-)  Can you suggest a better book?  it's nice to have a reference.

> Try "dmesg | grep eth". Typically your first NIC on a PC will be
called
> "eth0". 

"dmesg" doesn't work.  try something else, or is it something i need to
install?

thanks!!!

-b



On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:21:54PM -0500, urbanyon wrote:
> > 
> > i am using a cdrom that came with the book 'learning debian gnu/linux'
> > (oreilly).  various packages that even the book tells i need are not on
> 
> Ah. What a crappy book. It was my first Debian book, and install, too.
> Note: It is _not_ Debian 2.1. It's a modified copy of Slink, with some Potato
> packages thrown in, and the kernel was modified by VA Linux Systems. 
> When I tried to enable networking, I got void pointer errors from the
> Kernel and then it panicked. As soon as I got a stock Debian kernel all the
> problems that I was having went away. I'd recommend you replace the kernel on
> the CD ASAP. 
> 
> > 1. is there a program that i can use to set up a 'net connection using my
> > NIC?
> 
> Not really, but you don't really need one. If your NIC is recognized, you
> can set yourself up with a static IP via ifconfig and route. If your ISP wants
> you to use dhcp, use dhcpcd or pump. 
> 
> > 2. do i need to do anything to check that the NIC is, in fact, installed?
> 
> Try "dmesg | grep eth". Typically your first NIC on a PC will be called
> "eth0".
> 
> > 3. i've been using apt-get - what should my sources.list file read?
> 
> This'll do for potato.
> 
> deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian potato   main contrib non-free
> 
> You'd need a working connection of course. For the CD, just use
> 
> deb file:/cdrom stable main contrib
> 
> Mike
> 
> -- 
> Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
> of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
> PGP Public Key: http://www.storm.ca/~msoulier/personal.html
> 



Last woody upgrade = chaos?!

2000-11-18 Thread Toens Bueker

Hi *,

I use woody for quite a long time already - but during the update from 
libc6 2.1.97-1 to libc6 2.2 something went wrong.

Several packages, which seem to use networking functions are now broken:

- syslogd
- ping
- ftp
- emacs
- apt-get


Some of those try to open a socket in /var/run/.nscd_socket (which 
does not exist). 

Some just segfault (emacs).

>From former threads in this list I know, that there might be issues 
with libnss*.

I really need that machine up and running again urgently - what can I do?
Are there fixed packages maybe already somewhere in incoming?

Thx

by
Töns



X setup help, please

2000-11-18 Thread Stan Brown
Seting up a recycled machine for Dabian Potato. Superprobe returns:

First video: Super-VGA
Chipset: Trident GUI 9680 (PCI Probed)
Memory:  1024 Kbytes

RAMDAC:  Trident Built-In 15/16/24-bit DAC
(with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))


So what sort of resoloutin/color depth cobos should I be able to get? I
selected 24 bit color during install and would up with a truly horible
resolutin. Something like 480x360 or something :-(

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Re: Postscript printers

2000-11-18 Thread Moritz Schulte
Philipp Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The 12i/n does speak TCP/IP too. I think it is really cool to connect
> to my printer's ftp-server ;)

Hey, does it also have a builtin webserver? :)

moritz
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Re: Help with cron settings?

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:41:45PM -0600, Damian Menscher wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, sc wrote:
> 
> > I'm having troubles getting my backups automated.  I set up a file "test" 
> > in the cron.d directory with the settings...
> > 
> > 5,10,15 * * * sunkcost /bin/tar -cf /home/sunkcost/test.tar 
> > /home/sunkcost/test.txt
> > 
> > I thought that cron was supposed to check through its crontab and related 
> > files every minute or so, but nothing happens.  I tried restarting cron 
> > manually, root as the user, and editing crontab directly, but no dice.
> > 
> > I'm probably missing something really obvious for what seems like a 
> > straightforward setup, but I'm stuck.  Can somebody give me some help 
> > here?
> 
> man crontab
> 
> You're supposed to use the crontab command to modify cron
> settings.  Updating files by hand won't work.
for /etc/cron.d ?
afaik crontab can only update user's crontab, not systemwide
like the files in /etc/cron.d, they are just processed by cron
periodically.

part from 'man 8 cron' :

DEBIAN SPECIFIC
   cron treats the files in /etc/cron.d as extensions to  the
   /etc/crontab  file (they follow the special format of that
   file, i.e. they include  the  user  field).  The  intended
   purpose  of this feature is to allow packages that require
   finer   control   oftheirschedulingthanthe
   /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}  directories allow to add
   a crontab file to /etc/cron.d. Such files should be  named
   after  the  package that supplies them. Files must conform
   to the same naming convention  as  used  by  run-parts(8):
   they must consist solely of upper- and lower-case letters,
   digits, underscores, and hyphens. Like  /etc/crontab,  the
   files  in  the  /etc/cron.d  directory  are  monitored for
   changes.

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Re: Help with cron settings?

2000-11-18 Thread Damian Menscher
On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, sc wrote:

> I'm having troubles getting my backups automated.  I set up a file "test" 
> in the cron.d directory with the settings...
> 
> 5,10,15 * * * sunkcost /bin/tar -cf /home/sunkcost/test.tar 
> /home/sunkcost/test.txt
> 
> I thought that cron was supposed to check through its crontab and related 
> files every minute or so, but nothing happens.  I tried restarting cron 
> manually, root as the user, and editing crontab directly, but no dice.
> 
> I'm probably missing something really obvious for what seems like a 
> straightforward setup, but I'm stuck.  Can somebody give me some help 
> here?

man crontab

You're supposed to use the crontab command to modify cron
settings.  Updating files by hand won't work.

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Re: Help with cron settings?

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:17:32PM -0600, sc wrote:
> 
> (don't think this one went through.  Apologies if this is a repost)
> 
> I'm having troubles getting my backups automated.  I set up a file "test" 
> in the cron.d directory with the settings...
> 
> 5,10,15 * * * sunkcost /bin/tar -cf /home/sunkcost/test.tar 
> /home/sunkcost/test.txt
try 5,10,15 * * * * sunkcost /bin/tar -cf /home/sunkcost/test.tar 
/home/sunkcost/test.txt

you forgot a *, so cron tried to interpet sunkcost as day of week, which
doesn't really work

> 
> I thought that cron was supposed to check through its crontab and related 
> files every minute or so, but nothing happens.  I tried restarting cron 
> manually, root as the user, and editing crontab directly, but no dice.
> 
> I'm probably missing something really obvious for what seems like a 
> straightforward setup, but I'm stuck.  Can somebody give me some help 
> here?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> --SC
> 
> 
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Re: fetchmail won't fetch

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:01:47PM -0600, ktb wrote:
> I'm a little farther along with my mail trials.  Out going works
> fine but I can't receive with fetchmail.  I'm using exim, fetchmail
> and pine on Potato.  
> My /etc/hosts contains the following line -
> 192.168.10.7 debian.local debian
> 
> This is how I answered the questions from eximconfig:
> *Visible mail name = debian.local
> *Other names appearing on incoming = none
> *Relay for domains = none
> *Relay for local machines = 192.168.10.0/24
> *RBL = no
> *Which machine is smarthost = mail.peoplepc.com
> (I wasn't sure if I should put smpt.peoplepc.com hear or
> mail.peoplepc.com)
> *Postmaster mail to = kent
> 
> My .fetchmailrc:
> # Configuration created Sat Nov 18 15:38:41 2000 by fetchmailconf
> set postmaster "kent"
> set bouncemail
> set properties ""
> poll smtp.peoplepc.com with proto POP3
>user [EMAIL PROTECTED] there with password  is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] here
change this to your local user name, it is sent on your local machine
to this address, so i suggest you replace this with:
user [EMAIL PROTECTED] there with password  is kent here
> 
> (here again I'm not sure if it should be smpt.peoplepc.com or
> mail.peoplepc.com)
they refer to the same ip, so it doesn't really matter, mail
is a bit more usual then smtp for a pop3 server

> 
> 
> Readout of fetchmail after sending a test mail to my isp:
> ###
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fetchmail -av
> fetchmail: 5.3.3 querying smtp.peoplepc.com (protocol POP3) at Sat,
> 18 Nov 2000 15:43:02 -0600 (CST)
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> fetchmail: POP3> USER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK 
> fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK 
> fetchmail: POP3> STAT
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 656
> 1 message for [EMAIL PROTECTED] at smtp.peoplepc.com (656 octets).
> fetchmail: POP3> LIST
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK
> fetchmail: POP3< 1 656
> fetchmail: POP3< .
> fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK 
> reading message 1 of 1 (656 octets)
> fetchmail: SMTP< 220 debian ESMTP Exim 3.12 #1 Sat, 18 Nov 2000
> 15:43:11 -0600
> fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250-debian Hello localhost [127.0.0.1]
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250-SIZE
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 HELP
> fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=656
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is syntactically correct
> fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is syntactically correct
> fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
> fetchmail: SMTP< 354 Enter message, ending with "." on a line by
> itself
> #***fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 OK id=13xFlP-0002Zh-00
>  flushed
> fetchmail: POP3> DELE 1
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK
> fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK
> fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
> fetchmail: SMTP< 221 debian closing connection
> fetchmail: normal termination, status 0
> #
> 
> I don't see any errors here.  It seems to be fetching but I can't
> find the email on my machine.  It should be in /var/spool/mail/kent
> as that is where exim is pointed to.  Sorry for the length here. 
> What am I doing wrong?
the ' . is [EMAIL PROTECTED] here ' line, mail is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
so will never reach [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Help with cron settings?

2000-11-18 Thread sc

(don't think this one went through.  Apologies if this is a repost)

I'm having troubles getting my backups automated.  I set up a file "test" 
in the cron.d directory with the settings...

5,10,15 * * * sunkcost /bin/tar -cf /home/sunkcost/test.tar 
/home/sunkcost/test.txt

I thought that cron was supposed to check through its crontab and related 
files every minute or so, but nothing happens.  I tried restarting cron 
manually, root as the user, and editing crontab directly, but no dice.

I'm probably missing something really obvious for what seems like a 
straightforward setup, but I'm stuck.  Can somebody give me some help 
here?

TIA,

--SC



Re: imagemagick is not installable

2000-11-18 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:31:09PM +0100, Johannes Zellner wrote:
> Hi, me again,
> 
> If I've installed geomview installing imagemagick fails because:
> 
> ...
> Unpacking imagemagick (from .../imagemagick_5.2.5-2_i386.deb) ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/imagemagick_5.2.5-2_i386.deb (--unpack):
> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/animate.1.gz', which is also
> in package geomview Errors were encountered while processing:
> /var/cache/apt/archives/imagemagick_5.2.5-2_i386.deb E: Sub-process
> /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> hmm. What to do now ?

File a bug against geomview (imagemagick has been around longer). The
geomview man page should be renamed.

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fetchmail won't fetch

2000-11-18 Thread ktb
I'm a little farther along with my mail trials.  Out going works
fine but I can't receive with fetchmail.  I'm using exim, fetchmail
and pine on Potato.  
My /etc/hosts contains the following line -
192.168.10.7 debian.local debian

This is how I answered the questions from eximconfig:
*Visible mail name = debian.local
*Other names appearing on incoming = none
*Relay for domains = none
*Relay for local machines = 192.168.10.0/24
*RBL = no
*Which machine is smarthost = mail.peoplepc.com
(I wasn't sure if I should put smpt.peoplepc.com hear or
mail.peoplepc.com)
*Postmaster mail to = kent

My .fetchmailrc:
# Configuration created Sat Nov 18 15:38:41 2000 by fetchmailconf
set postmaster "kent"
set bouncemail
set properties ""
poll smtp.peoplepc.com with proto POP3
   user [EMAIL PROTECTED] there with password  is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] here

(here again I'm not sure if it should be smpt.peoplepc.com or
mail.peoplepc.com)


Readout of fetchmail after sending a test mail to my isp:
###
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fetchmail -av
fetchmail: 5.3.3 querying smtp.peoplepc.com (protocol POP3) at Sat,
18 Nov 2000 15:43:02 -0600 (CST)
fetchmail: POP3< +OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
fetchmail: POP3> USER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 656
1 message for [EMAIL PROTECTED] at smtp.peoplepc.com (656 octets).
fetchmail: POP3> LIST
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3< 1 656
fetchmail: POP3< .
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 
reading message 1 of 1 (656 octets)
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 debian ESMTP Exim 3.12 #1 Sat, 18 Nov 2000
15:43:11 -0600
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-debian Hello localhost [127.0.0.1]
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-SIZE
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 HELP
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=656
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is syntactically correct
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is syntactically correct
fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
fetchmail: SMTP< 354 Enter message, ending with "." on a line by
itself
#***fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 OK id=13xFlP-0002Zh-00
 flushed
fetchmail: POP3> DELE 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
fetchmail: SMTP< 221 debian closing connection
fetchmail: normal termination, status 0
#

I don't see any errors here.  It seems to be fetching but I can't
find the email on my machine.  It should be in /var/spool/mail/kent
as that is where exim is pointed to.  Sorry for the length here. 
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
kent



Re: Help getting PS/2 mouse working, please

2000-11-18 Thread Stan Brown
On Sat Nov 18 13:51:07 2000 Moritz Schulte wrote...
>
>"Stan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>[PS2 mouse]
>> How can I test and make certain it is working, and get it configured
>> corectly so that it works in console mde, and passes data on through
>> to the X server?
>
>Have you already installed 'GPM'? It should ask you some questions
>after it's installation. There you've to specify the "Repeat
>type". You can run /usr/sbin/gpmconfig again or edit /etc/gpm.conf
>manually. See 'man gpm' for more information on GPM and the repeat
>type. Set the repeat type to 'raw' - this seems to work good. Set the
>mouse protocol to 'ps2'; some so called "PS2 mice", e.g. the Logitech
>Cordless Wheel mouse, needs 'imps2' as protocol.
>
>Got it working in console mode?
>

More info. I have tried cahnging the type to imps2. Seperately I 
changed the
device to /dev/mouse. Non of ths change anything :-(

If I do a killall on gpm, and run it from the command line, about 2/3 
of on
line, and all of the next line on my console get highlighted. However, 
I get no
mouse pointer and pressing the keys does nothig.

I tried running gpm -D -V9, and I don't get any messages whatsover, 
shouldn't
Iget something?

I have tried 2 differnt mice, one 3 button, one 2 buttton both HP PS/2 
mice.
Both mice wokr fine with teh HP Vextra siting next to the Debian box. 
It's
runing FreeBSD.

This is getting frustrating, I need to move on to fighting the X 
battle, but
there is no use trying to even atempt that wihtou a working mouse!

Anyone got some troubleshooting tips?


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a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
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Re: HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:21:54PM -0500, urbanyon wrote:
> 
> i am using a cdrom that came with the book 'learning debian gnu/linux'
> (oreilly).  various packages that even the book tells i need are not on

Ah. What a crappy book. It was my first Debian book, and install, too.
Note: It is _not_ Debian 2.1. It's a modified copy of Slink, with some Potato
packages thrown in, and the kernel was modified by VA Linux Systems. 
When I tried to enable networking, I got void pointer errors from the
Kernel and then it panicked. As soon as I got a stock Debian kernel all the
problems that I was having went away. I'd recommend you replace the kernel on
the CD ASAP. 

> 1. is there a program that i can use to set up a 'net connection using my
> NIC?

Not really, but you don't really need one. If your NIC is recognized, you
can set yourself up with a static IP via ifconfig and route. If your ISP wants
you to use dhcp, use dhcpcd or pump. 

> 2. do i need to do anything to check that the NIC is, in fact, installed?

Try "dmesg | grep eth". Typically your first NIC on a PC will be called
"eth0".

> 3. i've been using apt-get - what should my sources.list file read?

This'll do for potato.

deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian potato   main contrib non-free

You'd need a working connection of course. For the CD, just use

deb file:/cdrom stable main contrib

Mike

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Re: System.map

2000-11-18 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 10:48:29AM -0600, Jason Holland wrote: 

> You can recreate your System.map by running make install in /usr/src/linux,
> or wherever your kernel source is that you recently recompiled.

Sure he can recreate it this way but he still needs to copy it to the
right place.
#cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-your.kernel (same as
vmlinuz-your.kernel)

Phil



Re: Problems wit ps/2 mouse

2000-11-18 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:48:33PM +0100, Edwin Hoff wrote: 

> I'm running debian potato on my computer. The problem is, that the
> system doesn't  initialize my ps/2-mouse automatically. To get access to
> the mouse i always run gpmconfig "manually" as root, after this
> procedure the mouse works. Which settings are necessary to have the
> mouse configured automatically.

Well, I can think of two situations, that might cause this problem:
1. gpm is not started
2. somehow your gpm.conf gets changed

Phil



Re: SB AWE64 configuration problem

2000-11-18 Thread Robert A. Jacobs
* Willy Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [181100 10:43]:
> "Willy" == Willy Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Regarding the problems I'm having with getting sound to work, I found
> a clue.  Now if I only knew what it meant!
> 
> This is what syslog says after attempting to modprobe to load the
> sound modules:
> 
> Nov 18 03:07:16 geldar modprobe: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than 
> /lib/modules/2.2.17/modules.dep

Not sure what this problem is but I've seen a lot of people who have had it.
Type:
depmod -a 

to fix it.

See my reply to "JD Kitch" in the "Couple of questions from a recent convert" 
thread for detailed instructions on how I got my SB AWE64 working.

Maybe you can glean some solutions from there.


rob jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~no witty sig required~



Re: Netscape 6.0

2000-11-18 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:20:53AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: 

> On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 01:57:39PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:

> > My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
> > Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.
> 
> i have found its certainly more of a pig, and its interface is very
> sluggish, it does tend to be less stable too, but only for certain
> sites.  i think for most people sticking with netscape 4.75 is
> probably the best thing for now.

What about beonex? I installed it yesterday on a friends system and it
seems to work good.
Phil 



Re: Postscript printers

2000-11-18 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:49:40PM +0100, Patrick wrote: 

> On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 10:33:05PM +0100, Philipp Schulte took time to write:
> > I got a OKI 12i/n and it works just great. It has a builtin NIC
> > (10BaseT) and 4MB RAM and of course speaks PS :)
> 
> The Oki 20 is also very cool... Very nice in a network environment
> (speaks TCP/IP, Appletalk, Netware, etc...)
> Just toner supplies are hard to find (at least in France)

The 12i/n does speak TCP/IP too. I think it is really cool to connect
to my printer's ftp-server ;)
Phil



Re: Skipstone [was: Netscape 6.0]

2000-11-18 Thread Daniel Borgmann
On Saturday 18 November 2000 20:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> |> i heared of skipstone and really really want to try it. but
> |> unfortunatly there is only a woody version :( is there any way to get
> |> skipstone for a potato system?
>
> I have Skipstone running fine on my potato system, and I really like
> it.
>
> I installed Mozilla from Debian (M18-3 in stable), and then I
> installed the pre-compiled binary available at the Skipstone web-site
> (skipstone-0.6.1-bin) in /usr/local. I've not had any problems so far.
>
> I needed this in .bash_profile:
>
> export MOZILLA_5_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla
>
> so that skipstone knew where to look for the parts of Mozilla that it
> uses.

thx it's working and great! 
but i can start it only in a terminal, not via "alt+F2". what's that? i run 
the terminal as the same user.. this is weird.



Re: Network config

2000-11-18 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 02:20:35PM +0800, Gilbert.Li (§õ«Â¾§) wrote: 

> > Yes you need to have the module loaded for your network card
> > before you can actually use the eth0 interface w/ ifconfig and such.
> > Silver
> 
>if I don't have a built-in network driver, how do I configure the driver.

What do you mean? Are you talking about a driver, which is not in the
kernel source-tree? You compile it and load the module via insmod or
modprobe.
Phil



Re: WARNING - Virus infected messages on list

2000-11-18 Thread Sean Furey
Hi Robert!

> Excuse my ignorance on the maintainance of distribution lists, but why not 
> just reject submissions with attachments that match the pattern *.EXE?

Thats the first idea I've seen that I'd agree with.  Much as I dislike
Outlook, I used to like it, I suspect many people still do, and that
even more are forced to use it.  EXE files should not be posted to the
list anyway, so blocking that would help, even though it would miss
scripts.


-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Simple apt-get question

2000-11-18 Thread Robert A. Jacobs
* Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [171100 17:16]:
> > 
> > I installed PostgreSQL to work with, and I noticed that it
> > said that it was version 6.5 or so, and to just grab the
> > newer package from the unstable tree.  So my question is,
> > how do I go about grabbing just _one_ package, and of
> > course, any dependencies (as few as possible, I hope.  I
> > have a very slow dial-up connection) from the unstable
> > branch when my /etc/apt.sources.list is set up for the
> > stable tree?
> > 
> 
> you don't.  If you want an unstable package you either:
> 
> a) upgrade to unstable
> 
> b) grab the source from unstable and compile it yourself.  This is fairly
> painless these days.  grab the orig.tar.gz, the dsc and the diff.gz file.  do
> dpkg-source -x foo.dsc.  cd foo-ver.  Look in debian/control.  If there is a
> Build-Depends line, install any packages listed there.  Make sure you have
> fakeroot installed.  Then do dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -tc.

I'm fairly new to Debian as well...but I run a few packages from unstable and I 
did not "upgrade to unstable".

All I did was add the following line to my sources.list:

deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free

I only use this line when I want to get one or two packages.  Most of the 
time I keep it commented out so Apt ignores it.

Do:

apt-get update
apt-get -s install  

-s "simulates" an install so you can see what apt is gonna do.  If you are 
okay with its actions, re-run the command without the -s

apt-get install 

rob jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~no witty sig required~



HELP!!!

2000-11-18 Thread urbanyon
apologies for the drama, i'm just at the end of my rope trying to install
debian.

i am using a cdrom that came with the book 'learning debian gnu/linux'
(oreilly).  various packages that even the book tells i need are not on
there.  i figured i would try and connect to the internet, but i can't
seem to get that to work either.  i am connecting to the 'net via a
dsl-type connection, using a netopia router.  the network card in the
potential debian machine is a 3com PCI card, model # 3CSOHO100-TX.  the
router lights up when i connect it to the card with a cable, and the NIC
lights up as well (i realize that this means nothing, but i'm including it
to show that the hardware is, in theory, working).

here are my questions:

1. is there a program that i can use to set up a 'net connection using my
NIC?

2. do i need to do anything to check that the NIC is, in fact, installed?

3. i've been using apt-get - what should my sources.list file read?

THANKS IN ADVANCE

-brett



Re: Couple of questions from a recent convert

2000-11-18 Thread Robert A. Jacobs
* JD Kitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [181100 14:17]:
> Does the default install support an SB AWE32 for sound without
> recompiling the kernel?  

No the default install does not support SB AWE32.  You need to 
patch the kernel and recompile.  If your SB AWE32 is a pnp card,
you will need to configure it using the isapnp tools.

References:  Sound HOWTO
 Soundblaster AWE HOWTO

These are the instructions I wrote for myself for configuring my own
SB AWE32 sound card.  Ignore the references to the USR modem. :)
Hope they are helpful.

Kernel Configuration Notes:

Make sure the following kernel modules are selected when you "make menuconfig"
Prior to configuring the kernel be sure to patch it with the awe-drv package:

   apt-get install awe-drv
   cd /usr/src/awedrv
   ./install.sh

   Sound
 Sound Card Support
 OSS Sound Modules
 100% Soundblaster Compatibles
 FM Synthesizer (YM3812/OPL-3) Support
Additional Low-Level Sound Drivers -->
 AWE32 Synth


## 
##   Sound Notes
## 

   Note 1:  The Kernel must be compiled with the appropriate sound modules
selected.  Prior to compiling the kernel, be sure to "patch" it
with the "awedrv" source code.

Following compilation, the following modules should be available
in the "misc" category when executing "modconf":

   adlib_card
   awe_wave
   opl3
   sb
   sound
   soundcore
   soundlow
   uart401

Configuring (i.e. starting) the "sb" module will start "sound", 
"soundcore", "soundlow", and "uart401" (see Step 5). 

Configuring the "adlib_card" module will start "opl3" (see Step 5).
   
   Note 2:  Save yourself a lot of headaches and create (pnpdump) and modify
/etc/isapnp.conf once.  That is, modify it for all your ISA PNP
devices at the same time.  Right now, that means your USR modem, if
it is installed.   

   1. Become Root
   2. mv /etc/isapnp.conf /etc/isapnp.conf.old  (see Note 2)
   3. pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf (see Note 2)
   4. modify /etc/isapnp.conf sound card entries to read (see Note 2):

  #SB AWE64 16-Bit Audio Configuration
  (CONFIGURE CTL00c5/18864389 (LD 0
(INT 0 (IRQ 9 (MODE +E)))
(DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))
(DMA 1 (CHANNEL 7))
(IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0280))
(IO 1 (SIZE 2) (BASE 0x0300))
(IO 2 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0388))
(NAME "CTL00c5/18864389[0]{AUDIO  }")
(ACT Y)
  ))

  #SB AWE64 Gameport Configuration
  (CONFIGURE CTL00c5/18864389 (LD 1
(IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0200))
(NAME "CTL00c5/18864389[1]{GAME  }")
(ACT Y)
  ))

  #SB AWE64 Wavetable Configuration
  (CONFIGURE CTL00c5/18864389 (LD 2
(IO 0 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0620))
(IO 1 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0A20))
(IO 2 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0E20))
(NAME "CTL00c5/18864389[2]{WAVETABLE }")
(ACT Y)
  ))
   
   5. Configure the sound modules for use with the kernel:

  a.  modconf
  b.  Configure "awe_wave" from the "misc" category with no parameters.
  c.  Configure "sb" from the "misc" category and provide
  the following parameters:

  io=0x280 irq=9 dma=0 dma16=7 mpu_io=0x300
  
  When "sb" is loaded, it will call "sound", "soundlow", 
  "soundcore" and "uart401"

  d.  select "adlib_card" from the "misc" category and provide
  the following parameters:

  io=0x388

  When "adlib_card" is loaded, it will call "opl3"
  
   6. Add users to the "audio" group

adduser  audio

   7. Reboot


rob jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~no witty sig required~



Re: XFree86 4.01

2000-11-18 Thread Michael Meding
Hi Ian,

what does "X -configure" does on your machine ? That should work, also
you can use a sample config like the ones supplioed by
dri.sourceforge.net on the ressources page.

http://dri.sourceforge.net/resources/XF86Config.voodoo3

Hope that helps.


Greetings


Michael Meding



Re: XFree86 4.01

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 08:45:57PM -, Ian Lee wrote:
> I am running Debian 2.2, with kernel 2.4 test10.
> I have downloaded and installed the glibc21 binaires of 4.0.1, I run 
> XF86Setup and find that there is no Voodoo 3 option in the cards list.
> 
> The XFree86 site days the card is supported but I can't find it.
shouldn't you use xf86cfg?
XF86Setup is the xf86 3.3.x version i guess, so that will not list all 4.0.1 
cards and will not write the correct config file, unless it's a specific xf4 
version
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XFree86 4.01

2000-11-18 Thread Ian Lee



I am running Debian 2.2, with kernel 2.4 
test10.
I have downloaded and installed the glibc21 
binaires of 4.0.1, I run XF86Setup and find that there is no Voodoo 3 option in 
the cards list.
 
The XFree86 site days the card is supported but I 
can't find it.
 
Can anyone help?
 
Ian.
 


Re: xfree 4: "unknown reason for exeption"; clock problems

2000-11-18 Thread Gerhard Kroder



On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, John Galt wrote:

> You probably wanted [EMAIL PROTECTED]

no, i intentionally posted to  mailinglist first. But since nobody could
help i'll goto bugs...

Gerhard



Re: Debian Package HOWTO. Who ?

2000-11-18 Thread Jesse Goerz
Uhh... In my opinion...



>As a provocation it served its purpose. However I admit that I was unfair.
>But I still think that my question for a more in-depth HOWTO is a valid one


>
> Some people suggest that I should read the developer's or packaging
> manuals or even the source. But I am not a developer, and i have
> never succeeded in reading more than ten lines of someone else's
> C code if it goes beyond the 'hello world' level.

Imagine how self-righteous this sounds to a developer of Debian?  You freely 
admit you do not contribute to the Debian project and then raise the standard 
for the product they produce.  If it is so disagreeable a prospect to use 
Debian, then don't use it.  You seem to be intelligent, have a good writing 
style, and insight into the matter, perhaps you should do something about it?

>
> My aspiration level is to be an intelligent end-user, but still to
> use more of the possibilities than only 'apt-get install ...',
> without the permanent fear of creating chaos.
> egbert

You are weird.



during make-kpkg I get i386-none not in remapping table

2000-11-18 Thread Michael Meding
Hi all,

I use potato with dpkg and debhelper from woody. When I try to compile
2.4.0-test11-pre7 after configuring it and doing a make-kpkg I get an
error saying that i386-none is not in remapping table and not found in
arch. So I have to specify --arch=i386. Doing this I get after a while
of compiling a make 1 error saying that i386-linux-gcc could not be
found. Doing an ln -s gcc i386-linux-gcc in /usr/bin I get i386-linux-ld
command not found again with error make 1.


So what is the proper way to do this, respectively, what am I doing
wrong.

Thanks in advance for your help.


With best regards


Michael Meding



Re: OT: working with cisco gear (Re: CISCO --> debian tool(s))

2000-11-18 Thread John Kramer
> > which are useful unless you have to manage lots of those boxes, 
> I wouldn't know.
> but isn't that what OpenView is for? and is unbeatable in that field?
> 

Openview doesn't manage those boxes specifically.  It's an expensive
SNMP-mib
collector/network-discovery-agent/oh-crap-this-node-went-down-page-someone
-agent.  If you're wanting GUI management of Cisco boxes, look at Cisco
Works.  The best platform you can get for it is Solaris (which is nothing
to sneeze at.)  It is nice to have CW go out and archive the software revs
and keep a database of all that.  I've never used CW for anything more
than an audit trail of changes.  The GUI, like all management GUI's, just
ain't natural for we command-line-folk.

For me, telnet and a tftp daemon do just fine.  Throw in a perl script
or two to scrog configs regularly and parse syslog entries, and add MRTG
on top of that.

my .02.


 --
John B. Kramer  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://24.17.57.58/~yoda/index.html





Re: Help getting PS/2 mouse working, please

2000-11-18 Thread Stan Brown
On Sat Nov 18 13:51:07 2000 Moritz Schulte wrote...
>
>"Stan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>[PS2 mouse]
>> How can I test and make certain it is working, and get it configured
>> corectly so that it works in console mde, and passes data on through
>> to the X server?
>
>Have you already installed 'GPM'? It should ask you some questions
>after it's installation. There you've to specify the "Repeat
>type". You can run /usr/sbin/gpmconfig again or edit /etc/gpm.conf
>manually. See 'man gpm' for more information on GPM and the repeat
>type. Set the repeat type to 'raw' - this seems to work good. Set the
>mouse protocol to 'ps2'; some so called "PS2 mice", e.g. the Logitech
>Cordless Wheel mouse, needs 'imps2' as protocol.
>
>Got it working in console mode?
>

Mmm, sorry I was not specific enough on my problems.

The answer is "no it's not working in console mode".


Here is what i have in /etc/gpm.conf

device=/dev/psaux
responsiveness=
repear_type=ms3
type=ps2
append=""

Think I should cahnge the tyep?

I ned to get it working in console mode first, before moving on to X

Thanks for the help

-- 
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Charleston SC.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
-
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Re: Network routes

2000-11-18 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 11:41:10AM -0800, Kyle J. Moore wrote:
> I have just started using Debian in something other
> than a simple network. I'm looking for what file and
> syntax I should put entries for static routes. I'm
> used to RedHat and things seem to be different in
> Debian. Most of the docs I've seen while researching
> this refer to putting things in the
> /etc/init.d/network script. This doesn't seem like a
> good idea as it would get overwritten during an
> upgrade and it also doesn't seem to be supported
> anymore as the script looks totally different? Do I
/etc/init.d/network is the 2.1/slink (old) way,
in potato and up, /etc/network/interfaces is used,
and /etc/init.d/networking that calls ifup/ifdown
and sets up some things like ip spoofing protection,
but i don't recommend to edit it directly, it's nice
(imho) that all routes are reset if you do
ifdown -a; ifup -a.


> put this in /etc/network/interfaces or what? An
> example of syntax would also be helpful.

i usually do it in /etc/network/interfaces like:
 iface eth0 inet static
 address 192.168.1.1
 network 192.168.1.0
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 broadcast 192.168.1.255
 gateway 192.168.1.254
 up route add -net 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0 gw 
192.168.1.250
 down route del -net 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0

after up/down, just normal commands can be enterd.
i constrol my firewalls this way too, like 

up /root/bin/firewall-eth0 start
down /root/bin/firewall-eth0 stop

man 5 interfaces for more info

it could be a good idea to make a seperate script for
adding/removing the correct routes for an iface,
like i did for firewalling.
it isn't very managable if you have 30 'up' lines
in interfaces.

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Re: OT: working with cisco gear (Re: CISCO --> debian tool(s))

2000-11-18 Thread brian moore
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:30:59PM +0100, Robert Waldner wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 17:18:31 +0100, Dariush Pietrzak writes:
> >> which are useful unless you have to manage lots of those boxes, 
> 
> >I wouldn't know.
> >but isn't that what OpenView is for? and is unbeatable in that field?
> 
> I consider BrokenView to be in the field of BigBuckMoneyBurn-ware ...

Indeed.  I've yet to meet anyone that has used it and -liked- it.

The most common reason to run OV is "we installed some vendor hardware
and they only let us manage it with OV".

As an example of its brokenness, when I had to run it, I also had to use
'mon' to ensure that OV was actually still running: periodically one
part of OV would core dump and take down the rest of it.  The irony of
using a couple thousand lines of GPL'd Perl to monitor hundreds of
thousands of lines of expensive crapware was amusing, though.

Then there was the day that OpenView refused to honor its own license,
which meant I had to call our evil VAR (HP refused to help, because we
got it as a VAR package) and have -them- call HP...  12 hours later HP
gave us a new license that OV didn't choke on.  Too bad the hardware
that OV was supposed to be controlling was offline for 12 hours.

> If you´re (for whatever reason) already forced to use expensive (and 
> much too often crappy) cisco-gear, I´d guess you don´t want to strangle 
> yourself further with more&more not-open-source-software.

OpenView is what made me as rabid 'give me source or keep it off
my network' as I am.  (And, thanks to the wonders of proprietary
software's inferiority, it even convinced management of the same
thing now -they- ask about source and standards compliance when
talking to sales wonks, and usually even specifically ask "will this
work with Linux?")




Network routes

2000-11-18 Thread Kyle J. Moore
I have just started using Debian in something other
than a simple network. I'm looking for what file and
syntax I should put entries for static routes. I'm
used to RedHat and things seem to be different in
Debian. Most of the docs I've seen while researching
this refer to putting things in the
/etc/init.d/network script. This doesn't seem like a
good idea as it would get overwritten during an
upgrade and it also doesn't seem to be supported
anymore as the script looks totally different? Do I
put this in /etc/network/interfaces or what? An
example of syntax would also be helpful.

Thanks.

-Kyle

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screensaver/dpms solved

2000-11-18 Thread Kevin C. Smith
Thanks for the help.

Adding xset -dpms s off
in /etc/X11/xdm/ Xsetup and Xreset files worked.


Kevin



Re: Question about shortcuts

2000-11-18 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Brian Kallinen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I had a question about about using shortcuts under Debian (kern
> 2.2) running Gnome desktop under Sawfish.  At the present time, I have
> shortcut icons for my applications in the bottom panel, but I was
> wondering how to setup up a key shortcut for the same applications, e.g.,
> mapping a function key (like F2) to launch an app, say Netscape.
>
>

I don't know if this is the more elegant solution, but you can try binding the 
F12
key in the "Global" context with "Run shell command your_command". In this case 
i
will place this "/usr/bin/gnome-moz-remote --newwin about:" to open a blank 
Navigator
window ...

You can set this with the gnome control center ("Shortcuts") or the Sawfish
configurator ("Bindings").


Andrea



Re: How to change imwheelrc to scroll with mozilla line by line ?

2000-11-18 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Damon Muller wrote:

> Quoth Michael Meding,
> > mozilla keeps scrolling a page up or down even after adding a mozilla
> > section in the imwheelrc (exactly like the navigator section) and then
> > changing Page_Up and Page_Down to just Up and Donw respectively.
>
> I have found that the best solution to this is simply turning imwheel
> off. I'm using Helix Gnome and recent mozilla nightlies on potato, and
> pretty much everything (gnome-terminal, Eterms, most apps, etc.) are now
> wheel-aware. After having turned imwheel off, the only thing that no
> longer works for me with the wheel is old (4.x) netscapes.
>
> It's probably not the solution you were after, but it works for me.
>

To use the wheel in Netscape 4.x i've added this .Xdefault in my home dir and
added "xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xdefaults" in my .xsession file.

Pressing the SHIFT and CTRL key change the scroll speed, and using ALT you go
back and forth with the page history...

With the included Xdefault you can use the wheel to scroll the output of an
x-term too...


Andrea
<>


Re: url forward

2000-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
Sebastiaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am new to domain name servers, so I may ask stupid questions, but I hope
>someone can help me. I have just set up a nameserver which works fine. 
>Now I want to forward my www to my internet provider, but there is a
>slight problem. My page does not have an ip, but is in fact a directory on
>the server of my provider. This is my situation:
>
>/etc/bind/db.dorpsnet contains the lines:
>local  A   192.168.1.254
>wwwA   194.235.126.184
>
>so when I acces www.dorpsnet.nl (local name) I succesfully reach the
>provider's home page. But unfortunately, my homepage is at
>194.235.126.184/~sebas
>
>Can you give me a hint or some tips how to manage this? Can this be done
>with DNS, or do I have to install another package?

You can't do this with DNS alone; your provider needs to run a virtual
host for you. Whenever any HTTP/1.1 client (or HTTP/1.0 client with
Netscape extensions, the two of which combined form the vast majority of
even vaguely recent browsers) sends a request for one of your pages, it
sends the HTTP header "Host: www.dorpsnet.nl". Your provider's web
server then needs to recognize that and send them back pages from the
directory ~sebas.

This should be trivial for a provider who knows anything at all about
web hosting.

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Skipstone [was: Netscape 6.0]

2000-11-18 Thread mcclosk

|> i heared of skipstone and really really want to try it. but
|> unfortunatly there is only a woody version :( is there any way to get
|> skipstone for a potato system?

I have Skipstone running fine on my potato system, and I really like
it.

I installed Mozilla from Debian (M18-3 in stable), and then I
installed the pre-compiled binary available at the Skipstone web-site
(skipstone-0.6.1-bin) in /usr/local. I've not had any problems so far.

I needed this in .bash_profile:

export MOZILLA_5_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla

so that skipstone knew where to look for the parts of Mozilla that it
uses.

Jim



Re: exim and mtt probs continue

2000-11-18 Thread Griffith Feeney
At 08:13 AM 11/18/00, you wrote:
i continue to have problems setting up my email configuration. I have run
eximconfig but have had trouble working out how to answer some of the
questions I am not sure what is meant by some of the terms i.e. what is my
visible mail name. To be honest i have used the default settings to set up
exim i have no idea in most cases whether this is correct. I am dialling up
to my isp using pon, I can't fine where to set up the isp smtp info re
sending mail.

>>>
Isn't this one of the last questions eximconfig asks you? Think so.
<<<

Fetchmail seems to be ok but where does it write the emails to. I have
installed mutt but when i run it i get the message that there is no
/var/spool/mail/jmj directory jmj being my user name. Apparently exim
should set this up for me/ I am truly at a loss.

>>>
I've just spent several evenings puzzling over an identical or similar
problem. The usual location for mailboxes (which are files, not
directories, as I initially thought) is /var/spool/mail. For reasons I
don't understand, the default Debian 2.2 setup makes this a symbolic (I
think symbolic, not hard) link to /var/mail. You see this from

ls -l /var/spool

which shows

mail -> ../mail

at the end of the line for mail. Mailboxes are thus in /var/mail. To see
them do

ls -l /var/mail

The mailbox for some_user should be named and owned by some_user, the group
should be mail, and the permissions should be -rw-rw. You may have to
create these files using touch, chown, chgrp and chmod to get the ownership
and permissions right. If I remember rightly,

touch some_user
chown new_user new_user
chgrp mail new_user
chmod 660 new_user

will do it.

In my case, I messed up the default configuration and had the same problem
with mutt not seeing my mailbox. Creating the above link and file solved
the problem.
<<<

Mutt is also supposed to make a file called .muttrc in my home directory
but this does not exist, apparently without it i cant specify which MTA i
am using.

>>>
I don't think you need to specify exim in .muttrc. If I understand
correctly, exim appends incoming mail to user's mailboxes in
/var/spool/mail or, in this case, /var/mail. mutt looks for it in
/var/spool/mail, which is linked to /var/mail. What mutt needs to know is
where to look for the mailbox, not what MTA put the mail there.
<<<

Is there a mutt configuration script.  If you have any idea how to proceed.

>>>You probably don't need this to solve your immediate problem. I don't
know of any script, but see the mutt home page for examples of
configuration files. Go to

http://www.mutt.org/

and more specifically

http://www.mutt.org/links.html#config

and perhaps more specifically still the (especially for newbies) link to
Telsa Gwynne's site.
<<<

If it would be easier to use another MTA i am happy to do so although i
hear that exim is the best.

>>>Again, this probably isn't your problem, so suggest sticking with exim
for the present. To investigate problems, look at the main exim log file,

/var/log/exim/mainlog

using more, less, vi, etc. Initially I had the mailbox locking problem
described in Q0201 of the exim FAQ (http://www.exim.org/FAQ.html). After
creating the link and mailbox files described above this problem stopped.
<<<

thanks for your help
 very confused

>>>
Hang in there! I'm trying to set up unix style email with
exim/fetchmail/mutt/procmail after many years of Eudora. It isn't coming
easily, in part because documenation, voluminous as it is, doesn't address
all someone new to this setup needs to know. I'm still puzzling out my own
setup.
<<<

jm



Re: global file for exporting variables (not profile)

2000-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
"Cameron Matheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I need a file that I could export variables such as MESA_GLX_FX (ones
>that do not depend on the shell), but I don't know of one, please, if
>you know of one, share it with me.

Try /etc/environment. This is read by pam_env, which needs to be
configured for the appropriate services in /etc/pam.d, but that's the
default in Debian so you should be OK. See section 6.5 of
/usr/share/doc/libpam-doc/html/pam.html if you have the libpam-doc
package installed.

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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