Re: tripple booting dos/win/linux

[Coronya]

System Commander is not a boot manager but if you're considering using it
then beware! I lost a ext2 partition because of this program. I wasn't able to
know what exactly happened but even superblocks seemed to be damaged. This
was the last partition of my harddisk. So if you go on with your idea of
using system commander, then backup!

On the other hand, I would like to suggest XOSL for that job. It has very
nice features and can be installed on a dedicated partition or a normal dos
partition. It has many features and has been very reliable (I've used it for
a couple of months). Even better, it is free and under the GPL. I can't
suggest enough you take a look at this program since I got nothing but
trouble from system commander.

If you're interested:
http://www.xosl.org

PS. Did I mention XOSL is very good looking? ;)

Coronya
Debianized for now 37 days!


On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Ken Weingold wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > hi, how is it possible to tripple boot dos/win/linux?  what i have done so
> > far is:
> > 1.  installed dos
> > 2.  changed the fs type for fat16 to xenix, and windows then installs fine
> > since it doesn't find dos.
> > 3. installed linux.
> > 4. now, i can boot either windows or linux fine.
> > 5. if i now change xenix back to fat16 i cannot boot either dos or windows.
> > what i require is a way, in lilo.conf for example, for hiding the dos
> > partition when windows loads and hiding the windows partition when dos
> > loads. how is this possible? could you send a sample lilo.conf?
> > dos is on hda1, win on hda2, linux on hda3 and swap is hda5 (extended.
> > saqib
>
> I would highly recommend System Commander.  It is a boot manager that
> will deal with all this seamlessly.  You can even have it hide
> partitions, so you can install Windows with DOS already there.  Right
> now I have running on my system: DOS 6.22, Win95 OSR2, Windows 2000,
> and Linux.  All running just fine.
>
>
>
> -Ken
>
>

Re: Two Mice and no Cursor

[Brian May]

> "Kent" == Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> prw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 25 15:33 gpmdata crw--- 1 root
>> root 10, 1 Jul 5 2000 psaux
>> 

Kent> "c" means it's a character device, sending one character of
Kent> data at a time, like a mouse or keyboard. "b" is a block
Kent> device, like a hard drive, where a whole chunk of
Kent> information (sector? cluster?) is sent at a time. I'm not
Kent> sure what "p" means, but it may be part of the /proc system,

"p" is a named pipe, typically used for interprocess communication.
-- 
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Re: Two Mice and no Cursor

[Kent West]

CORRECTION:

Kent West wrote:

gpm.conf's "device=" line needs to point to the real mouse device;  
gpmdata is only a middle-man between gpm and X. If it's a ps/2 style  
connector, you probably want it to read "device=psaux". For a generic  
PS/2 mouse, the "type=" line probably needs to read "type=ps/2" (or  
"type=imps2" if you have a wheel).



Should be "type=ps2", not "type=ps/2".

About Debian documentation

[Dr. Aldo Medina]

I recently installed Debian 2.2 and I'm reading the documentation
provided at debian.org. However, I believe it's a little disorganized
(or I didn't knew how to read it), because I can understand many things
yet.

For example, Why are so many packages from older version of programs.
For example X-chat, wwwoffle ,ncftp and even XFree's packages are from
very old versions of the actual programs.
I believe dpkg is the absolute best in terms of packaging system (I come
from RedHat's rpm). That's why I think twice to install a new non-deb
version of some program, even when I need some of the new features (like
XFree 4). So what do you recommend?

What is in your opinion the best place to look for information for a
not-so newbie RedHat's user who tries Debian for the first time? TIA.

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Re: Two Mice and no Cursor

[Kent West]

hammack wrote:

Long time and still no cursor.  I've tried two pointers, Kensington 
"Expert Mouse" serial, and a PS/2 Generic.  I have tried all the 
combinations of Protocol and Device that I can and still don't have a 
pointer in X.  Below are files and excerpts of interest. 

Any Help appreciated  John  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



 

Do you have it working in the text-based console? If not, you might try 
to get it to work there before tackling X, just to make sure the 
hardware is functional. Also, if you use gpmdata, you need to have a 
working console mouse, as the gpmdata grabs it's mouse information from gpm.


apt-get install gpm
gpmconfig

dir of home files for the below:  What is "p" and "c" in the 2nd and 
3rd lines?  gpmdata appears to be an empty file and psaux is very small. 


lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Dec 20 22:49 mouse -> gpmdata
prw-r--r--1 root root0 Jan 25 15:33 gpmdata
crw---1 root root  10,   1 Jul  5  2000 psaux

"c" means it's a character device, sending one character of data at a 
time, like a mouse or keyboard. "b" is a block device, like a hard 
drive, where a whole chunk of information (sector? cluster?) is sent at 
a time. I'm not sure what "p" means, but it may be part of the /proc 
system, which is not real devices but temporary "magic" ones, in this 
case, being a temporary magic device that reads mouse movement from the 
gpm program and passing it on to the X server.



 


XF86Config:
Section "Pointer"
Protocol"MouseMan"
Device  "/dev/mouse"   
##  Protocol   "PS/2"

##  Device "/dev/gpmdata"
   BaudRate1200
   Emulate3Timeout 50
   Resolution  100
#   Buttons 3
   Emulate3Buttons
EndSection

 


gpmconf:

 

device=/dev/gpmdata   
responsiveness=
repeat_type=raw   
type=MouseMan 
append=""


 

 

gpm.conf's "device=" line needs to point to the real mouse device; 
gpmdata is only a middle-man between gpm and X. If it's a ps/2 style 
connector, you probably want it to read "device=psaux". For a generic 
PS/2 mouse, the "type=" line probably needs to read "type=ps/2" (or 
"type=imps2" if you have a wheel).


hth
Kent

Re: ~New~ installation ...

[C-Cose Masters]

Greetings,

Although I wasn't clear in my original email, the headers ~should~ show the
Stormix groups in addition to "debian" lists. Storm Linux ~is~ a debian
distribution.

Thanks,
C. Masters

"David B. Harris" wrote:

> To quote C-Cose Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> # I'm about to re-install Stormix Hail after several unsuccessful
> attempts to
> # install and upgrade the Rain version. I've also invested in VMware, so
> I will be
> # completely formatting my HD, and installing W98 as a Guest OS through
> VM. As
> # this will be my ?teenth attempt at installing debian, I'd like to get
> some
> # advice from all the gurus out there.
>
> I'm only speaking for myself, and not for everyone here.
>
> But this is debian-user. You're using a Storm Linux, a commercial
> distribution. Don't you think you should contact your vendor for
> support?
>
> David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
> Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
>
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Two Mice and no Cursor

[hammack]

Long time and still no cursor.  I've tried two 
pointers, Kensington "Expert Mouse" serial, and a PS/2 Generic.  I have 
tried all the combinations of Protocol and Device that I can and still don't 
have a pointer in X.  Below are files and excerpts of interest.  

Any Help appreciated  
John  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
dir of home files for the below:  What is "p" 
and "c" in the 2nd and 3rd lines?  gpmdata appears to be an empty file and 
psaux is very small.  
lrwxrwxrwx    1 
root 
root    7 Dec 20 
22:49 mouse -> gpmdataprw-r--r--    1 
root 
root    0 Jan 25 
15:33 gpmdatacrw---    1 root 
root  10,   1 Jul  5  2000 
psaux
 
XF86Config:Section 
"Pointer"Protocol    
"MouseMan"Device  
"/dev/mouse"    ##  
Protocol   "PS/2"##  
Device "/dev/gpmdata"   
BaudRate    1200   
Emulate3Timeout 50   Resolution  
100#   Buttons 
3   Emulate3ButtonsEndSection
 
gpmconf:
 
device=/dev/gpmdata    
responsiveness=repeat_type=raw    
type=MouseMan  
append=""
 
 

Dnews in debian

[Dr. Aldo Medina]

> I just installed Dnews 5.4j in my recently installed Debian 2.2. However
> I had to tweak some settings to make it work. Is there any way I can
> make a debian package or something to automatize the process. I can
> barely make a "program" in bash, and don't understand the package
> documentation in Debian. Any suggestion? Or maybe there is already an
> installer package? Thanks.

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Re: [Fwd: ~New~ installation questions]

[David B . Harris]

To quote C-Cose Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# I'm about to re-install Stormix Hail after several unsuccessful
attempts to
# install and upgrade the Rain version. I've also invested in VMware, so
I will be
# completely formatting my HD, and installing W98 as a Guest OS through
VM. As
# this will be my ?teenth attempt at installing debian, I'd like to get
some
# advice from all the gurus out there.

I'm only speaking for myself, and not for everyone here.

But this is debian-user. You're using a Storm Linux, a commercial
distribution. Don't you think you should contact your vendor for
support?

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)

Re: problem playing audio cd's

[Harry Barnes]

Hi, I had the same problem as Phillip. I was advised to add the user to 
audio and disk ...


I have already undone this, after reading the post. My problem is I do not 
seem to have /dev/cdrom

To get gtcd to play I had to change the device from /dev/cdrom to /dev/hdc.

Looking through the /etc/group file I noticed that I have a cdrom group.

Any ideas?

Intermediate newbie :)


Hi,


I solved my "problem" :)  - I just didn't log out and back in before 
>trying to

setup cdcd 
I also changed myself and the cd-drive to the cdrom group :)



Thnaks a lot!
Philipp



Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

Hi Philipp,

Did u log out, and back in? This typically takes care of that. And btw,
I just read through more of this string and I really like changing the
group to cdrom and then just adding yourself and whoever else will use
the cdrom - it's much more sanitary then adding yourself to disk.

hth, tatah

On Wednesday 24 January 2001 14:21, Philipp Bliedung wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thanks for your responses!
> I can now access audio-cd's BUT ONLY AS ROOT!
> I changed my setting in  /dev to this:
>
> brw-rw 1 rootdisk   3   Oct  29  00:03 
/dev/cdrom

> ->hdc
> brw-rw 1 rootdisk22, 0  Jul  5   2000  /dev/hdc
>
> I added the user (user1) to this group:
> # adduser user1 disk
>
> now ROOT can play CD's but not user1 - is there any other group I don't
> belong to?
> When I try to specify the device in cdcd I get 'Permission denied' 
(trying

> to add /dev/cdrom)
> What else can I do?
> BTW cdcd is working great :) (but just for root for now)
>
> TIA,
> Philipp
>
> Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> > Philipp,
> >
> > No worries. Many have been here before :)
> >
> > You don't mount an audio cd! You just play it etc. So, under
> > your gnome, just fire up the cdplayer that comes with it. If you
> > use kde, use the cdplayer that comes with it. Just need to confinger
> > your device (/dev/hdb, /dev/hdc etc).
> >
> > Also, add yourself to your cdgroup.
> >
> > ~ pts/0> ls -al /dev/hdd
> > brw-rw1 root disk  22,  64 Feb 22  1999 /dev/hdd
> > YOU ARE ROOT!! on bogus
> > ~ pts/0> ls -al /dev/hdc
> > brw-rw1 root disk  22,   0 Feb 22  1999 /dev/hdc
> > YOU ARE ROOT!! on bogus
> >
> > Here you see it's owned by root and belongs to 'disk', so I added 
myself

> > to that group:  'adduser me disk'  as root.  There are also safer
> > ways to do this, check back with the list.
> >
> > also, I like the cdcd package for playing my cdroms in pure console 
mode
> > (no x running). 'apt-get install cdcd' will do the trick. For 
adjusting

> > the volume, I like aumix, again, 'apt-get install aumix' :)
> >
> > I really hope this helps.
> >
> > tatah
> >
> > On Wednesday 24 January 2001 10:49, Philipp Bliedung wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm new to the multimedia things under Linux :)
> > > I have the problem that I can't play audio CD's on my computer.
> > > I've installed everyhting that's related to sound properly - so I'm
> > > able to play mp3s, *.wav,etc. with freeamp for example, but when I 
put
> > > in a CD (even CD's I bought, no CD-R or CD-RW) and I want to mount 
it I

> > > get:
> > >
> > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom or 
too

> > > many mounted file systems
> > >
> > > Even as root I can't do it!  This is how /etc/fstab looks like:
> > >
> > > /dev/cdrom   /cdrom   iso9660
> > > defaults,user,noauto,ro  00
> > >
> > > When I start 'gcd 2.91' under Gnome I get this:
> > >
> > > "Unable to open cd device. Please make sure that you are using teh
> > > correct device and that you have permission to access the 
device.."
> > > The cd-drive works perfectely fine with every CD (cd-rom). So it's 
not

> > > the cd-drive that's not working!
> > >
> > > What am I missing, or what am I doing wrong? Any ideas for a good
> > > cd-player?
> > >
> > > TIA!!
> > > Philipp
> >
> > --
> >
> > Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074
> > http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145
> > This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian
> > If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.

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Re: Console question (2x)

[ktb]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 10:25:23PM -0500, RAccess wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, ktb wrote:
> 
> >
> > I'm running 2.2.17 stock kernel that came with potato and the "vga=ask"
> > option works fine.  I don't remember ever compiling it into any kernel.
> > Course I don't know what the original poster is running.
> > kent
> >
> 
> ktb: I am running 2.2.18pre21, which i compiled myself. I don't recall
> seeing that option while compiling, but I think it must be there. I just
> wasn't looking. Thanks for the information.
> 
> 

Sounds like that is the best bet.  I got curious and took a look.  It is
option -
[ ] Video mode selection support
in the -
Console drivers 
section.  Let us know if you missed that.  I just gota know:)
kent
 
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How can I install VMware inside Debian?

[Dr. Aldo Medina]

I used VMware without problems inside RH 6.2. Now I just upgraded to
Debian 2.2, and I'm looking forward to reinstall my VMware. Is there any
guide to how to do this inside debian?. I will try the tar.bz, but maybe
there exists some installer like the real-player's one. Thanks for any
suggestion.

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Problem with spanish characters in terminal

[Dr. Aldo Medina]

I just installed Debian 2.2, using a spanish keyboard (selected in the
installation.

If I type some spanish character, like ñ or á, in Netscape or vi, it
displays just fine. However, if I type it in console mode, or in a
terminal inside X, it just beeps and doesn't show anything. Where could
my problem be?

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Re: Another newbie (problems with installation)

[ktb]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:40:24PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Patrick Klee wrote:
> 
> >> I'm not sure what problem you're describing.
> >> 
> >> If your machine will boot off the CD, don't worry about floppies (except
> >> to make a boot floppy near the end of the install for emergency
> >> purposes). If your machine won't boot off the CD, you have to create
> >> some boot/root floppies to get the process started, but rather than go
> >> into details, let me just ask that you post further information as to
> >> what problems you're having.
> >> 
> >> Kent
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > I can't boot off of the CD's but I start to install the drivers off of
> > floppies, and it loads for about 5 seconds, then says it can't find the
> > file, something like /lib/modules/ not found.
> > 
> > Oh, now I just found out that when I boot from the rescue floppy.  After it
> > loads into the install screen, or as it is loading, I get a rolling screen
> > of errors, that says can't load something/li b/modules, I think.  No my
> > friend, burnt the CDs and created the floppies and he got everything
> > working, so I know it is probably me, I just can't find the problem, and I
> > am pretty sure I tried everything at least I can think of.  It there a
> > troubleshooting HOWTO?  HELP!!!  :-)
> > 
> > I REALLY want this install to work, I am usin debian in college and I want
> > to be able to comple and run my homework at home.
> > 
> 



It has been a long time since I've done a floppy install.  I do remember
having the problem your describing.  I also remember "solving" it by
either downloading fresh floppy images from a different mirror of the
current version at that time or grabbing the images from the prior
release and then upgrading once I had the base installed.  If no one
else has a better idea you might try that.
hth,
kent

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Re: ntpd not setting time

[hanasaki]

Actally that seems to be one of the problems.. . I just found it in the
syslog.  ntpd -g should take care of this but it doesn't.  The time was
intentally set to 1999 to test ntpd and see if it is working.  Even with
the "-g" option I am getting:

Jan  1 01:38:38 portal ntpd[841]: time error 286216465 over 1000
seconds; set clock manually

It is as if the -g is a valid command line option but ignored.

brian moore wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jan 01, 1992 at 01:27:39AM -0600, hanasaki wrote:
> > it is serving the time fine to others but:
> > it wont set my server's time from another time server
> >
> > I have entered "server... " lines into /etc/ntp.conf
> 
> If your time is too far off, ntpd will not know whether to trust the
> remote sites or yours and will refuse to change the time.
> 
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> unpack
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KDE2 in Debian testing/unstable not working?

[Bart Szyszka]

Hi,

What's the status of KDE2 in testing and unstable? I tried
doing an apt-cache search for 'task-kde' in testing and got
nothing, but under unstable all I got was task-kde and
task-kde-devel. When I did a dist-upgrade from testing to
unstable, some X-related packages had unmet dependencies
and doing an apt-get install for task-kde just gave me a
long list of packages it wouldn't download. Is there currently
a way for me to be able to get a decent testing/unstable
system working with KDE2? What's going on with testing/
unstable anyway? It's been several days since I've been able
to do anything with apt (mostly dist-upgrades) without getting
some dependency problems or just broken packages.

- Bart

I'm lost without linux.3dfx.com

[Cameron Matheson]

Hey,
 
I just got done formatiing/re-installing my 
computer (various reasons, none important), and I was starting to set up my 3dfx 
card, but I can't remember how to do the device file, and I can't find it in the 
2.4 kernel docs.  I remember it was in a subdirectory, and the file was 
called card0 (i think), but I don't know device numbers etc.  Please supply 
me all needed info
 
Thanks,
Cameron matheson

Re: xinitrc isn't being read??

[Eric G . Miller]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 03:55:45PM +, Pollywog wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 05:41:27 -0800, Eric G . Miller said:
> 
> >  
> >  Actually, I think on Debian at least, one only needs an .xsession file
> >  for both modes (other distributions are different).  At least, it has
> >  always worked here.  Should be that /etc/Xsession is always run, and it
> >  sources ~/.xsession.  Check /etc/xinit/xinitrc (which is run by startx).
> 
> Doesn't ~/.xsession have to be executable?  Also, I don't believe kdm
> and friends use ~/.xsession but they have their own startup scripts.

Yes (for chmod +x ~/.xsession). I believe your correct about kdm, GDM
may or may not use it depending on whether you choose GNOME session or
Debian or Xsession.  In most other [normal?] cases, it should be
sourced.

-- 
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Re: NIS with shadow passwords

[Rodrigo Morais Araujo]

Richard Cobbe wrote:


Lo, on Thursday, January 25, Nate Amsden did write:


Pedro Pereira wrote:


Hi.
I have NIS installed and working good on my LAN.
But I'd like to install shadow passwords as well.
I've tried it, but as I compile the NIS maps, the users aren't no longer
able to login :(
Could somebody please help me?
Thanks.


use NIS+ ..i believe the NIS with linux does not support shadow.
although i am
not aware of a NIS+ solution that is debianized in stable.



Is this the NIS server, or the NIS client?  I'm about to try installing
potato on a machine at work, and I need to be able to work off our MIS
department's NIS server on a Solaris box upstairs.  This works just fine
with RH 6.2, so I'm guessing it'll be fine with potato, but confirmation
before the install would be nice.

Will that work?

Richard


  I got this problem a moth ago, the error began when I tried to make 
the NIS maps. But I edited a Makefile turnig on some think about 
"merging shadown files" (I don't remember more and I don't have the 
system more).


[]'s

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[Fwd: ~New~ installation questions]

[C-Cose Masters]

--- Begin Message ---
Greetings,

I'm about to re-install Stormix Hail after several unsuccessful attempts to
install and upgrade the Rain version. I've also invested in VMware, so I will be
completely formatting my HD, and installing W98 as a Guest OS through VM. As
this will be my ?teenth attempt at installing debian, I'd like to get some
advice from all the gurus out there.

1.I have a 20G HD that I plan to partition into several logical drives, in
order to minimize data loss should things not go well. I know that it's wise to
have separate partitions, but don't know what sizes I should use for the
following, or in which order they should be listed in fstab (I may as well take
care of load order while partitioning):

/
/home
/usr
/temp
/var

Note: the docs for VMware inform me that W98 will be loaded to the /usr
directory for the user from which it is installed. I've decided to set aside a
fat32 partition for ease of access to data for W98 programs; I figure a max of
5G should do it. Comments?

2.I've also had ~serious~ trouble getting my mouse to work in through Debian
(though that may be related to corrupt installs in the past). I'd like some
advice on if/which display manager I should load (xdm, kdm, gdm ...). I've
noticed that the majority of instruction for activating whell-mice assume
activity through gdm.

3.I've also ~never~ gotten my printer (HP820) to work in linux. I'd like
some pointers on the best install and filter options and/or would it be better
to simply allow printing to be done through VM's samba app's?

4.Lastly, for now, I'd like some opinions of gui sign-ins vs. "startx" for
logging in.

TIA

C. Masters

p.s. I've been trying to get my system debianized since late november of last
year, so you can appreciate my desire to ~finally~ do this the right way.

Thanks again.


--- End Message ---

Re: fstab entry for cd-rw device?

[Osamu Aoki]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:14:06PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Should have checked that I was answering the right question.  I've got
> a CDR, not RW, on my box.  So the 'ro' option makes sense.  Might make
> writing difficult though for an RW.

Nope, I do not think ro is only for CDR.

I do have CD-RW/R drive to be precise.  I can still write to it throgh
cdrecord.  Since cdrecord does not write access through /dev/scd0 for
writing but uses /dev/sg device and SCSI bus address, this works.  
(Correct me if I am wrong)

The only difference between CD-RW and CD-R is option used for cdrecord.
Just add "blank=fast" in command line and use right kind of disk for 
burning CD-RW!

If you know way to use CD-RW disk on /dev/scd0 with harddisk like 
R/W access, let me know.  I am sceptical though.

Osamu

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Re: Console question (2x)

[RAccess]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, ktb wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 04:07:48PM -0500, Mike McGuire wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. I have heard that its possible to run console in multiple 
> > > > > resolutions.
> > > > > How do I do this in debian, specifically?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. How can I have more console windows than the default 6? I want to 
> > > > > bump
> > > > > up tty7 and above used for X. Also, what happens if I want more 
> > > > > terminals
> > > > > than 12? There are only 12 function keys!
> > > > >
> > > > > I am running debian testing (maybe it matters). I am untrained in the
> > > > > mystic ways of the console. Any help would be appreciated. :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Put "vga=ask" in your /etc/lilo.conf run "/sbin/lilo" and you will be
> > > > given a choice of resolution on boot.
> > >
> > > I added vga=ask and I got no such choice option at boot time. yes. I did
> > > run lilo after i edited the conf file. Also, I tried vga=extended and that
> > > doesnt work either. There are no errors and the 'normal' mode is always
> > > used. Here is the response from dmesg:
> > >
> > > Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> >
> > I'm fairly sure you need kernel support for the additional vga modes. and I 
> > think it needs to be compiled in, since this stuff happens way before the 
> > modules. anyway, from the kernel config help:
> >
> > Video mode selection support
> > CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT
> >   This enables support for text mode selection on kernel startup. If
> >   you want to take advantage of some high-resolution text mode your
> >   card's BIOS offers, but the traditional Linux utilities like
> >   SVGATextMode don't, you can say Y here and set the mode using the
> >   "vga=" option from your boot loader (lilo or loadlin) or set
> >   "vga=ask" which brings up a video mode menu on kernel startup. (Try
> >   "man bootparam" or see the documentation of your boot loader about
> >   how to pass options to the kernel.)
> >
>
> I'm running 2.2.17 stock kernel that came with potato and the "vga=ask"
> option works fine.  I don't remember ever compiling it into any kernel.
> Course I don't know what the original poster is running.
> kent
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ktb: I am running 2.2.18pre21, which i compiled myself. I don't recall
seeing that option while compiling, but I think it must be there. I just
wasn't looking. Thanks for the information.


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Re: Console question (2x)

[Coronya]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Hall Stevenson wrote:

> > > Incidentally, X uses the next free tty. So if you have
> > > 'getty's up to tty11, X will be on tty12.
>
> > I was under the impression that X had tty7 hardcoded
> > into it (or was that xdm?)
>
> I don't think it's hard-coded because I've had X running on tty8 before
> and don't know how or why it was there. As long as I've been using
> Linux, it's always been on tty7 and I could hit "Crtl-Alt-F7" without
> looking. I did it and all I got was a flashing cursor... tried it again
> and made sure I was hitting "F7". Still no X. Tried "F8" and there it
> was.
>
> Regards
> Hall
>
>
>

No it's not hard-coded since I modified inittab to have 2 less virtual
terminals (I'm fine with only four and I want to save memory). The result is
that X start under tty5. It's really the next available tty that is chosen.
However, I do remember that when I was using XF86Setup (long time ago :)),
usually X would start on tty6 for no reason, like if tty5 was still under X
control. However, I'd really like to know why X is doing that.

Since we are talking about X (and don't want to start a new thread), has
anyone had success using SVGALIB along with X? On Mandrake, I had to wait
a couple of second between terminal switching...

Since I'm a french user, please forgive my bad english :).

Coronya

Re: apt-get install / remove / install looses files

[David B . Harris]

To quote hanasaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# I did an:
# 
# apt-get install squid
# messed some things up
# apt-get remove squid
# rm /etc/squid.conf since it was left behind
# apt-get install squid
# 
# /etc/squid.conf was not installed this time.
# 
# How do i get squid to fully install again?

'dpkg -r --purge squid' or maybe just 'dpkg --purge squid'.

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)

Re: Debian Newbie

[Brian May]

> "kmself" == kmself   writes:

kmself> OK, just walked through this myself.  Most recent Potato
kmself> kernel (2.2.17) doesn't appear to have USB support.

kmself> I D/L'd the 2.2.18 pre kernel from Woody for my Potato
kmself> system.  There *is* USB support, though I've no idea how
kmself> well things are supported.  I just compiled it plus one
kmself> boatload of modules into a new kernel (still haven't
kmself> booted ).

I have had no problems with USB support in 2.2.18 except for with my
HP scanner (takes a long time to respond, then complains something
about a NAK received).

Other USB devices, eg. mouse, camera card reader seem to work fine.

Sometime I should try 2.4.0 with the same setup and see if that helps.
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Re: ntpd not setting time

[brian moore]

On Wed, Jan 01, 1992 at 01:27:39AM -0600, hanasaki wrote:
> it is serving the time fine to others but:
> it wont set my server's time from another time server
> 
> I have entered "server... " lines into /etc/ntp.conf

If your time is too far off, ntpd will not know whether to trust the
remote sites or yours and will refuse to change the time.

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Boot launches X, but after login, get stuck. Still trying....

[DTi4565459]

It is a Mitsubishi laptop, so that may be part of the problem.  Anyway, when 
I reboot, the graphical Debian/GNU login screen comes up.  I think it must 
have launched XF86.So when I enter login & password, I get speckled 
screen with a big X in the middle and a dead mouse.  With cont-alt-F2, I can 
get to a console and login again; but if I try startx, I get fatal server 
error: "Server is already active for display 0".  I've tried removing lock 
file in /tmp; but it does not help.  

I did complete install from the 6 disk Debian distro, everything, but 
gnome-session doesn't work, and I don't think KDE is even there.  Minicom is 
not there, along with a lot of other stuff I expected I could use.  Newbie 
always appreciates help.  I'm no systems engineer or MIS mavin.  Best wishes, 
 dave

apt-get install / remove / install looses files

[hanasaki]

I did an:

apt-get install squid
messed some things up
apt-get remove squid
rm /etc/squid.conf since it was left behind
apt-get install squid

/etc/squid.conf was not installed this time.

How do i get squid to fully install again?

Re: Debian Newbie

[kmself]

on Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 02:23:42PM +0100, Vittorio De Martino ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Il Tuesday 23 January 2001 08:59, kmself@ix.netcom.com ha scritto:
> 
> > > on Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 08:04:30AM +0100, Vittorio De Martino 
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > I've been using RedHat 6.2 and 7.0 for about a year and now I think I'm
> > > ready to have a go at some other Linux distro.  Being fascinated by
> > > Debian stability and real "Open Source" nature I put the following
> > > straightforward preliminary questions:
> > >
> > > Migrating to Debian potato can I have a USB working
> > > support (for an Epson  scanner)  as I have now  automatically set up
> > > under RH7?
> >
> > Check your kernel configuration and USB support included there.  Are you
> > running 2.4 or a 2.2.x series kernel?
> 
> RedHat 7 comes with kernel 2.2.16-22 which includes an activated USB
> support by default; I had a chance to have a look at the kernel
> tailoring it to fit my hardware.  I wonder whether it's the same for
> Debian kernel, I mean is there a USB support included whether
> activated or not? If there isn't what should I do?

OK, just walked through this myself.  Most recent Potato kernel (2.2.17)
doesn't appear to have USB support.

I D/L'd the 2.2.18 pre kernel from Woody for my Potato system.  There
*is* USB support, though I've no idea how well things are supported.  I
just compiled it plus one boatload of modules into a new kernel (still
haven't booted ).

That's the route I'd tend toward.  About to take this puppy down.

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Linuxdoc DTD under Potato?

[kmself]

I'm trying to parse some LDP SMGL source docs on Potato, but am told by
Emacs that DTD LINUXDOC isn't found.  Is it generally available for
Potato, and as what?  Package sgmltools-2 (installed) claims to be the
package formerly known as Linuxdoc-SGML.  But it doesn't appear to
provide the Linuxdoc DTD.

Who's go the cluestick?

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Re: Gathering mail from multiple POP servers

[will trillich]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 06:52:16PM -0500, Samuel Hathaway wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been thinking about this for a while, and haven't really found much
> comprehensible documentation on it...
> 
> I like to be able to check my mail from several locations. I also have a
> bunch of pop mail accounts. I want to have my debian box "collect" mail from
> all of those accounts and put each account's mail into a separate mail box
> in my home directory. Then, I'd like to be able to access all of these mail
> boxes (as well any others I create to store mail in) through a IMAP
> interface. I can probably figure out the IMAP part once I have the mail
> gathering set up.
> 
> Could someone recommend a HOWTO or tell me how to do this? Thanks in
> advance.

you can use fetchmail to yank email from pop3 or imap
servers. here's my ~/.fetchmailrc :

# fetchmail -a -u trillich mail.speedex.net
defaults
user ispLoginName is will
password hiddn4now
server mail.speedex.net

poll mail.pinncomp.net protocol pop3
user remoteName is will
password isSekrit
fetchall

then when i "fetchmail" (or leave "fetchmail -d 300" running to
yank stuff every so often) it gets email from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... directing them both to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

but wait -- you need to have EXIM set up, first (i think).
it'll take a few weeks before you understand THAT manual! exim
listens for incoming mail connections, which is what fetchmail
forwards your 'email yanks' to. i'll let someone else step in
with a wise configuration setup there.

then with debian, exim defaults to looking for a ~/.procmailrc
file and if it exists, your email is filtered thru procmail
according to the recipes you've got there. here's a sample:

#  based on settings from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ('fish'.org')

PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin

MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
PROCMAILDIR=$HOME/.procmail
LOGFILE=$PROCMAILDIR/procmail.log

SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail

DEBIAN=$MAILDIR/debian
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox


#
# pinncomp and speedex mail (via fetchmail)
#
:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]/(pinncomp|speedex)\
$MATCH
# stow it into mbox "pinncomp.com" or "speedex.net"


#
# debian mailing lists
#
:0
* ^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* ^X-Loop: debian-\/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
{ DN=`echo $MATCH | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'` }
:0A:
$DEBIAN-$DN


#
# if all else fails, forward it to different local user
#

:0
!otherguy
# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> will get anything else that isn't
# routed above

there's an awful lot you can do with all these -- it's kinda
like killing a mosquito with a nuclear bomb...

"man fetchmail" has several nice examples to get you started.
also,
man exim.conf
man procmailrc
man procmailex

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Re: Console question (2x)

[ktb]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 04:07:48PM -0500, Mike McGuire wrote:
> 
> > > >
> > > > 1. I have heard that its possible to run console in multiple 
> > > > resolutions.
> > > > How do I do this in debian, specifically?
> > > >
> > > > 2. How can I have more console windows than the default 6? I want to 
> > > > bump
> > > > up tty7 and above used for X. Also, what happens if I want more 
> > > > terminals
> > > > than 12? There are only 12 function keys!
> > > >
> > > > I am running debian testing (maybe it matters). I am untrained in the
> > > > mystic ways of the console. Any help would be appreciated. :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Put "vga=ask" in your /etc/lilo.conf run "/sbin/lilo" and you will be
> > > given a choice of resolution on boot.
> > 
> > I added vga=ask and I got no such choice option at boot time. yes. I did
> > run lilo after i edited the conf file. Also, I tried vga=extended and that
> > doesnt work either. There are no errors and the 'normal' mode is always
> > used. Here is the response from dmesg:
> > 
> > Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> 
> I'm fairly sure you need kernel support for the additional vga modes. and I 
> think it needs to be compiled in, since this stuff happens way before the 
> modules. anyway, from the kernel config help:
> 
> Video mode selection support
> CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT
>   This enables support for text mode selection on kernel startup. If
>   you want to take advantage of some high-resolution text mode your
>   card's BIOS offers, but the traditional Linux utilities like
>   SVGATextMode don't, you can say Y here and set the mode using the
>   "vga=" option from your boot loader (lilo or loadlin) or set
>   "vga=ask" which brings up a video mode menu on kernel startup. (Try
>   "man bootparam" or see the documentation of your boot loader about
>   how to pass options to the kernel.)
> 

I'm running 2.2.17 stock kernel that came with potato and the "vga=ask"
option works fine.  I don't remember ever compiling it into any kernel.
Course I don't know what the original poster is running.
kent

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Re: Installing Debian

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

First of all, this was newbie question of potato install.  printtool
is not in current released version of potato.  (Yes, it was dropped)
Thus it is not fit to recommend it to newbie user.

Please understand this situation.

I understand printtool in woody can be used on debian system with lprng.
(Some bug report mention permission problem though)

I got printtool to work with lpr by modifying printtool so have 
not tried lprng.  Major problem occured because current BSD lpd
does not set CONTROL environment parameter.

Regards,

Osamu

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:50:20PM -0800, Terry Carney wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> 
> > Currently printtool is only available in testing/woody.  
> > (Buggy, seems to require lprng, see bug reports for details)
> 
> It certainly does need lprng. After many unsuccessful attempts to make
> it work with the stock lpr it occurred to me to try lprng. After that
> it worked fine. I did have to tell printtool on a local Linux box that
> the remote printer on another Linux box was an SMB printer. Printing
> from Windows to remote was fine but I couldn't make Linux to Linux
> work without using SMB. Doesn't matter I guess - it works.
> 
> > To be safe, I suggest try apsfilter first.  Stable and simple.
> 
> I didn't consider that.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Terry.
> 
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ntpd not setting time

[hanasaki]

it is serving the time fine to others but:
it wont set my server's time from another time server

I have entered "server... " lines into /etc/ntp.conf

Gathering mail from multiple POP servers

[Samuel Hathaway]

Hello,

I have been thinking about this for a while, and haven't really found much
comprehensible documentation on it...

I like to be able to check my mail from several locations. I also have a
bunch of pop mail accounts. I want to have my debian box "collect" mail from
all of those accounts and put each account's mail into a separate mail box
in my home directory. Then, I'd like to be able to access all of these mail
boxes (as well any others I create to store mail in) through a IMAP
interface. I can probably figure out the IMAP part once I have the mail
gathering set up.

Could someone recommend a HOWTO or tell me how to do this? Thanks in
advance.
-samuel

upgrading to Mozilla 0.7

[Jeroen Valcke]

Hello,
Recently I use Mozilla a lot, So I would like to keep up, and use the most
current version. Mozilla is now at version 0.7
But when I upgrade my system throught dselect it still uses M18.
0.7 has been out for a while now, how long does it usually take before a
package is upgraded?
Should I upgrade manually?

Thankx

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Re: building pine from debs

[Romain Lerallut]

All right, that did it!

I had tried direct compilation previously but not with slx, so somewhere
it was complaining and I didn't look further into it.

Thanks, now I can put mutt back where it belongs and go to bed with a
clear conscience :-) 


PS: I'd _still_ like to know why those debs didn't work in the first
place...


"Christopher W. Aiken" wrote:
> 
> I didn't play with the debs.
> I just went to: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/
> and downloaded:  pine4.32.tar.gz
> 
> Use: tar -xzvf  pine4.32.tar.gz
>  cd  pine4.32
>  ./build slx
> 
> In a few minutes Pine 4.32 was built!!!  As "root" I copied
> the  pine4.32/bin/pine executable to /usr/local/bin and I was
> done.  No patches were needed.  Also worked on SuSE 7.0
> 
> --
> Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
> chris at cwaiken dot com,   www.cwaiken.com
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.2_r2 & FreeBSD 4.2 RELEASE
> 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Romain Lerallut wrote:
> 
> ->Sorry if it's a usual problem, but I can't find info in the archives.
> ->Here it is
> ->(it's pine 3-96)
> ->
> ->
> ->apt-get source -b pine
> ->
> ->
> ->
> ->
> ->and then:
> ->
> ->install bin/pine debian/tmp/usr/bin
> ->install: cannot stat `bin/pine': No such file or directory
> ->make[1]: *** [binaryPine] Error 1
> ->make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine-3.96M'
> ->make: *** [binary-arch] Error 2
> ->Build command 'cd pine-3.96M && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.
> ->
> ->
> ->Thanks for any help, I don't like mutt that much (besides, I'm used to
> ->pine:)
> ->Romain
> ->
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Re: fstab entry for cd-rw device?

[kmself]

on Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 04:06:23AM -0800, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Usually Karsten's comment are correct on this mailing list but this time
> I think differently.

Should have checked that I was answering the right question.  I've got
a CDR, not RW, on my box.  So the 'ro' option makes sense.  Might make
writing difficult though for an RW.

Yes, I *do* make mistakes.

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Re: Installing Debian

[Terry Carney]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Osamu Aoki wrote:

> Currently printtool is only available in testing/woody.  
> (Buggy, seems to require lprng, see bug reports for details)

It certainly does need lprng. After many unsuccessful attempts to make
it work with the stock lpr it occurred to me to try lprng. After that
it worked fine. I did have to tell printtool on a local Linux box that
the remote printer on another Linux box was an SMB printer. Printing
from Windows to remote was fine but I couldn't make Linux to Linux
work without using SMB. Doesn't matter I guess - it works.

> To be safe, I suggest try apsfilter first.  Stable and simple.

I didn't consider that.

Regards,


Terry.

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Re: building pine from debs

[Christopher W. Aiken]

I didn't play with the debs.
I just went to: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/
and downloaded:  pine4.32.tar.gz

Use: tar -xzvf  pine4.32.tar.gz
 cd  pine4.32
 ./build slx

In a few minutes Pine 4.32 was built!!!  As "root" I copied
the  pine4.32/bin/pine executable to /usr/local/bin and I was
done.  No patches were needed.  Also worked on SuSE 7.0

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Romain Lerallut wrote:

->Sorry if it's a usual problem, but I can't find info in the archives.
->Here it is
->(it's pine 3-96)
->
->
->apt-get source -b pine
->
->
->
->
->and then:
->
->install bin/pine debian/tmp/usr/bin
->install: cannot stat `bin/pine': No such file or directory
->make[1]: *** [binaryPine] Error 1
->make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine-3.96M'
->make: *** [binary-arch] Error 2
->Build command 'cd pine-3.96M && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.
->
->
->Thanks for any help, I don't like mutt that much (besides, I'm used to
->pine:)
->Romain
->
->
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Re: building pine

[Romain Lerallut]

I took a closer look at what gcc says when it's compiling:

This does not look good:
os.c:1235: conversion to non-scalar type requested
os.c:1236: invalid operands to binary ==
os.c: In function `fset_pos':
os.c:1246: incompatible type for argument 2 of `fseek'
os.c: In function `post_reap':
os.c:1745: warning: passing arg 2 of `waitpid' from incompatible pointer
type
make[1]: *** [os.o] Error 1


and there is a lot of:
maildir.c: In function `maildir_ping':
maildir.c:854: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible
pointer type
maildir.c:854: warning: passing arg 4 of `scandir' from incompatible
pointer type

So of course the "install" can't stat the bin/pine file since the make
pine thread is clobbered by those errors. However, the rest of the stuff
, like pico is compiled.


I'm using kernel 2.4.0 , so my best guess (FWIW )is that the bloody
source code isn't compatible really with 2.4 kernels.


Benjamin Pharr wrote:
> 
> At 01:38 PM 1/25/01 , you wrote:
> >Sorry if it's a usual problem, but I can't find info in the archives.
> >Here it is
> >(it's pine 3-96)
> >
> >
> >apt-get source -b pine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >and then:
> >
> >install bin/pine debian/tmp/usr/bin
> >install: cannot stat `bin/pine': No such file or directory
> >make[1]: *** [binaryPine] Error 1
> >make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine-3.96M'
> >make: *** [binary-arch] Error 2
> >Build command 'cd pine-3.96M && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.
> >
> >
> >Thanks for any help, I don't like mutt that much (besides, I'm used to
> >pine:)
> >Romain
> 
> I got the same error while trying to build pine a couple of weeks ago.  I
> posted to the list, but got little or no response.  Let me know if you
> figure anything out.
> 
> Ben Pharr
>

cpqarray issue

[Eric N. Valor]

I've got a Compaq Proliant server with a RAID array upon which I'm trying 
to load 2.2.r2.  I've got a load of 2.2.17 on it already, but because I've 
been installing and screwing around with stuff I'd like to wipe it and get 
a clean load.  The RAID array is the only HDD system in the 
box.  Previously I'd cart over a floppy with cpqarray.o on it and load that 
module after booting with the CDROM.  Then I could do the partitioning, etc.


Now when I try to do the same thing it quietly fails.  I can depmod the 
module no problem, modprobe it with no error, but when I do an lsmod it 
returns "(not used)" by the cpqarray module.  Matter of fact, every module 
I try loading gets the same treatment.  The module was created on another 
system from the exact same 2.2.r2 CD as the one I'm trying to load on the 
Compaq.


Anyone got any bright ideas?  Something interesting is that if I do a 
"depmod -a", I get a rash of "unresolved symbols" but if I depmod the 
modules individually it seems to work fine.

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SOLVED: Re: ~/.xsession causes X to restart (infinite loop)

[Xucaen]

--- "Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:20:54PM -0500, David
> B. Harris wrote:
> 
> > You know, it *might* be useful to include
> your .xsession.
> 
> Just a bit. :)
> 
> The fact that you have one means that it
> overrides any system default, no?
> Are you exec'ing a WM?
> 

this was exactly my problem. I thought that fvwm
was being started by some other process. I didn't
think it was an if/else situation, but rather a
do this and that situation.

exec fvwm solved it.

thanks everyone!!

xucaen


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Re: KMail + GMX-Mailaccount

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> My mailadress is [EMAIL PROTECTED] POP3 server for incomming mails is
> pop.gmx.at. I have no problem with this. But i don't know what i have to
> do for a working output. SMPT server is calling mail.gmx.at. but what is
> the port? I tried port 25 and no mail was going out. What shall i do?

I haven't used GMX for a long time, but maybe you're tricked by the
smtp-after-pop policy.  That means that you have to authenticate
yourself by checking your mail via the pop account, before you can send
via smtp.  You might be missing the time-out.

Oh, and another thing comes to mind.  I remember reading, that GMX now
supports passwords for the smtp transfer.  I think you have to configure
that on their web interface, maybe something is wrongly configured
there.

HTH,
Viktor
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Re: xsetroot -bitmap???

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:51:55PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls
> > aim.xpm  new.bmp  test  test.xpm
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xsetroot -bitmap ~/new.bmp
> > xsetroot: bad bitmap format file:
> > /home/xucaen/new.bmp
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> > 
> > I made new.bmp using gimp.
> > any clues?
> 
> Why not use something like "jpeg" instead ??

xsetroot doesn't take anything but a bitmap. 

I use xv myself...

# Set up the background image with xv.
image=/home/msoulier/wdmc1.jpg
if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xv ] && [ -e $image ]
then
/usr/bin/X11/xv -maxp -quit -root $image
fi

Are you sure that bmp is correct? That's a windoze format, is it not? I
was thinking xpm myself...

Mike

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Re: ~/.xsession causes X to restart (infinite loop)

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:20:54PM -0500, David B. Harris wrote:

> You know, it *might* be useful to include your .xsession.

Just a bit. :)

The fact that you have one means that it overrides any system default, no?
Are you exec'ing a WM?

Mike

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Re: NIS with shadow passwords

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Nate Amsden wrote:

> you can search the www for how to do NIS+ in linux but the process seems
> quite involved if your not using a supported distro like SuSE (since i
> think
> most of the NIS+ development is done by SuSE employees ..) i tried doing
> it with debian 2.0 ..and..ended up reinstalling because i hosed my libc
> bad.

NIS+ support in general can be found at
http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/nisplus/, but it's not an easy task to install
(at least on RedHat it's not).  You'll have to fiddle with the PAM
entries a bit, to get thinks working properly.

There is also a debianized version available at 
  deb http://www.realbodo.de/ debian/
  deb-src http://www.realbodo.de/ debian/
but I haven't played with that.  Chances are, it works quite well out of
the box.

Good luck,
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Re: NIS with shadow passwords

[Richard Cobbe]

Lo, on Thursday, January 25, Nate Amsden did write:

> Pedro Pereira wrote:
> > 
> > Hi.
> > I have NIS installed and working good on my LAN.
> > But I'd like to install shadow passwords as well.
> > I've tried it, but as I compile the NIS maps, the users aren't no longer
> > able to login :(
> > Could somebody please help me?
> > Thanks.
> 
> use NIS+ ..i believe the NIS with linux does not support shadow.
> although i am
> not aware of a NIS+ solution that is debianized in stable.

Is this the NIS server, or the NIS client?  I'm about to try installing
potato on a machine at work, and I need to be able to work off our MIS
department's NIS server on a Solaris box upstairs.  This works just fine
with RH 6.2, so I'm guessing it'll be fine with potato, but confirmation
before the install would be nice.

Will that work?

Richard

Re: SOLVED: Re: ~/.xsession causes X to restart (infinite loop)

[Richard Cobbe]

Lo, on Thursday, January 25, Pollywog did write:

> 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:22:51 -0800 (PST), Xucaen said:
> 
> >  
> >  does anyone know why creating .xsession causes
> >  fvwm to NOT load anymore? I'd really like to know
> >  why
> 
> I don't think you need the "&" following your window manager.

True,

exec fvwm &

is redundant.  Drop the &.

Note, btw, that

fvwm &

*won't* work---when .xsession (or its replacement process, in the face of
an exex) terminates, the X server quits.  (This bit me pretty badly when I
first started hacking my .xinitrc/.xsession a few years back.)

Either `fvwm' or `exec fvwm' is fine; the latter is somewhat preferable, as
it doesn't keep the shell process hanging around until you quit X.

Richard

KMail + GMX-Mailaccount

[timohart]

Hi!

Does somebody knows what i have to do, to send emails with KMail(KDE)?

My mailadress is [EMAIL PROTECTED] POP3 server for incomming mails is 
pop.gmx.at. I have no problem with this. But i don't know what i have to 
do for a working output. SMPT server is calling mail.gmx.at. but what is 
the port? I tried port 25 and no mail was going out. What shall i do?

the newbie
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Re: tripple booting dos/win/linux

[Bob Hilliard]

"Saqib Shaikh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> hi, how is it possible to tripple boot dos/win/linux?  what i have done so
> far is:

 I believe it can be done with lilo, but I'm not familiar with
lilo.   I do exactly what you want with GRUB.  Following is part of
my GRUB menu.lst file:

# Boot automatically after 10 secs.
timeout 10

# By default, boot the first entry.
default 0

# For booting Linux
title  Debian Woody
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro ether=0,0,eth1

# For booting DOS
title DOS 6.22 on /dev/hda1
hide (hd1,0)
unhide (hd0,0)
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader  +1
 
# For booting Windows95
  title WIN95 on /dev/hdb1
  unhide (hd1,0)
  hide (hd0,0)
  map (hd1) (hd0)
  map (hd2) (hd1)
  rootnoverify (hd0,0)
  makeactive
  chainloader  +1


 This has two minor problems.  When I boot Windows, I get the
following message:

 Non-System disk or disk-error
 Replace and press any key when ready

 When I press [ENTER], it boots normally. 

 After it is booted, Windows thinks hd1 (/dev/hdb) is C: and hd2
(/dev/hdc) is D:.  This is what is desired.  However, it thinks
/dev/hdc is also E:.  Neither of these problems are show-stoppers as
far as I am concerned.

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Re: building pine from debs

[Benjamin Pharr]

At 01:38 PM 1/25/01 , you wrote:

Sorry if it's a usual problem, but I can't find info in the archives.
Here it is
(it's pine 3-96)


apt-get source -b pine




and then:

install bin/pine debian/tmp/usr/bin
install: cannot stat `bin/pine': No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [binaryPine] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine-3.96M'
make: *** [binary-arch] Error 2
Build command 'cd pine-3.96M && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.


Thanks for any help, I don't like mutt that much (besides, I'm used to
pine:)
Romain



I got the same error while trying to build pine a couple of weeks ago.  I 
posted to the list, but got little or no response.  Let me know if you 
figure anything out.


Ben Pharr

Re: Installing Debian (printtool)

[Osamu Aoki]

Well, well, well, 

Do not get me wrong.  I am not putting printtool down without reason.

I am the one who added feature of uniprint support to printtool in
original RH version and I like this nice gui-tool.

It seems, at one point in potato before official release, there was working 
printtool.  But as I understand it, due to release critical issue, 
printtool did not make official potato.

Then maintainer upgraded source since then.  Once for better and once 
for worse. Now uniprint does not work.  Also now it requires lprng or 
some patch. (Bug reports are hidden recently due to debian bug track 
system glitch.)

Anyway, I had chat with maintainer and he admits he is behind correcting 
glitches.  So stay away from one available in woody.

I made a private deb package for printtool which is based on newer RH7 
version printtool.  I want to debug a little more. This is functional
with BSD lpr on my system. (Not ready for prime time but if you are 
interested, check my site and give me a feedback.)

Regards,

Osamu

PS: My archive site http://www.aokiconsulting.com/pub/ (sometimes
this site is not reachable, try later if so.)

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:34:25PM -0500, mike polniak wrote:
> Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > You can use printtool to set up printing and pppconfig to set up your
> > > dial up.
> > > kent
> > 
> > Currently printtool is only available in testing/woody.  
> > (Buggy, seems to require lprng, see bug reports for details)
>   
>   Well i used printtool to set up my Epson 860 with a stcolor driver.
> I use lpr and have had no problems with printing all kinds of docs.  
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mars_nwe compile probs

[Robert Fendt]

hi folks,
i'm running debian 2.1 (kernel 2.0.38, gcc version 2.7.2.3) on my server. now
i wanna access certain files on this server via a client running drdos7.0
(caldera), which is supposed to be a netware client. the client is attached to
my ethernet-lan (a sketch of my lan can be seen here:
http://www.kbrzs.de/whatis.html). for this purpose i've downloaded mars_nwe
(mars_nwe-0.99.pl12.tgz), untar'd it and ran make the first time. i browsed
mk.li and config.h but didn't feel i had to change them much. after i ran make
the 2nd time i got this:

...
make[2]: Entering directory '/usr/src/mars_nwe/obj'
cc -c -pipe -Wall -DLINUX -DQTAINSYS -DUSE-GDBM -D_VERS_H=0 -D_VERS_L_=99
-D_VERS_P=12 ../tools.c
../tools.c:42: initializer element is not constant
../tools.c: In function 'errorp':
../tools.c:208:warning: assignment discards 'const' from pointer target type
make[2]: *** [tools.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/mars_nwe/obj'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/mars_nwe/obj'

i assume that there's sth. wrong with the source, but as i'm no c-guru i'm
pretty helpless here.
any suggestions? does mars exist as pre-compiled binary package (.deb or .rpm)
somewhere?

thanx in advance
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Re: xsetroot -bitmap???

[brian moore]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 10:18:19AM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
> 
> --- brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:40:30AM -0800,
> > Xucaen wrote:
> > 
> > > I made new.bmp using gimp.
> > > any clues?
> > 
> > Yes.  '.bmp' is almost certainly a Windows
> > bitmap.  That's not what X
> 
> even if I create it from scratch with gimp? 

Yes, it's a Windows Bitmaap file.  (Just like a .DOC file would be a
Word file, even if some other program exported it.)

> > wants.  (X bitmaps are typically named '.xbm',
> > and are two-color.)
> > 
> > > I get "unable to open file" errors when I try
> > to
> > > use xmp files.
> > 
> > If you want to set the background to a color
> > image, use a color image
> > format (like jpeg, gif, xpm, whatever) and:
> > 
> >   xli image.jpeg
> > 
> > (xli is in the 'xli' package.)
> > 
> 
> I don't know what xli is. I looked for it using
> apt-cache search xli but didn't find anything.
> what is xli? is it some sort of image converter?

It should certainly be there.  It's included in potato, woody and sid,
and it's old enough to probably be in slink as well.

Package: xli
Priority: optional
Section: graphics
Installed-Size: 310
Maintainer: James R. Van Zandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 1.16-12
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1), libpng2, libz1, xlib6g (>= 3.3.5)
Filename: dists/potato/main/binary-i386/graphics/xli_1.16-12.deb
Size: 156254
MD5sum: a819bd8b7b76b2d5a02044a59f7a293d
Description: view images under X11
 Can view the following image types under X11: FBM Image, Sun
 Rasterfile, CMU WM Raster, Portable Bit Map (PBM, PGM, PPM), Portable
 Network Graphics (PNG), Faces Project, GIF Image, JFIF style jpeg
 Image, Utah RLE Image, Windows, OS/2 RLE Image, Photograph on CD
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Re: Console question (2x)

[Mike McGuire]

> > >
> > > 1. I have heard that its possible to run console in multiple resolutions.
> > > How do I do this in debian, specifically?
> > >
> > > 2. How can I have more console windows than the default 6? I want to bump
> > > up tty7 and above used for X. Also, what happens if I want more terminals
> > > than 12? There are only 12 function keys!
> > >
> > > I am running debian testing (maybe it matters). I am untrained in the
> > > mystic ways of the console. Any help would be appreciated. :)
> > >
> >
> > Put "vga=ask" in your /etc/lilo.conf run "/sbin/lilo" and you will be
> > given a choice of resolution on boot.
> 
> I added vga=ask and I got no such choice option at boot time. yes. I did
> run lilo after i edited the conf file. Also, I tried vga=extended and that
> doesnt work either. There are no errors and the 'normal' mode is always
> used. Here is the response from dmesg:
> 
> Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
> 
> Any ideas?
> 

I'm fairly sure you need kernel support for the additional vga modes. and I 
think it needs to be compiled in, since this stuff happens way before the 
modules. anyway, from the kernel config help:

Video mode selection support
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT
  This enables support for text mode selection on kernel startup. If
  you want to take advantage of some high-resolution text mode your
  card's BIOS offers, but the traditional Linux utilities like
  SVGATextMode don't, you can say Y here and set the mode using the
  "vga=" option from your boot loader (lilo or loadlin) or set
  "vga=ask" which brings up a video mode menu on kernel startup. (Try
  "man bootparam" or see the documentation of your boot loader about
  how to pass options to the kernel.)

HTH
spoon

connect laptop via serial port

[Ville Harju]

 

  Hello !

 Is it possible to install debian into laptop trough serial port ?

Maybe null-modem cable or something would do it, but how ?
any suggestions ...

 TIA 
  
  Ville harju<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Help w/ pcmcia

[Moritz Schulte]

Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am currently using a compaq 1220,
> I have the linksys pcmcia 10/100 adapter
[...]
> I have a base installation of 2.1 w/ 2.0.38 kernel
> What driver can I use for this card

Ehm, Debian 2.1 with Linux 2.0 is very old. I don't know, wether Linux
2.0 has PCMCIA support - but, if it has, I don't think, it's as good
as the support in Linux 2.2, or even 2.4. Would be much better (not
only because of the PCMCIA support) to upgrade to Debian 2.2
("Potato"), which contains Linux 2.2.

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Re: fstab entry for cd-rw device?

[Martin Albert]

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Stefan Srdic wrote:
> I'm trying to get my cd-burner working under Debian 2.2. I've configured
> my system so that the ide-scsi module is loaded at boot time and I've

> I know that the module is loaded and functional because I can see the
> 
> However, I'm not sure which paramaters to add in the /etc/fstab file. My
> thoughts are to add something like the following:
> 
> /dev/scd0 /cdburneriso9660
> defaults,user,noauto00
> 
> Will this work? Or is there a better way to mount my cd-rw?

This should do fine.

I prefer to mount the rw as /dev/hdd, IDE, and when I actually want to
use the burner, i have a script to unmount/unload ide and start the
scsi environment. The direct ide reads seem to be faster with my drive
at least. I just a had a look, that script si too well documented to be
mine. Maybe you'll find it in cdrecord/contribution? Else ask me.

greetings and fun with yo new? rw, martin
.

RE: lpr(ng) not filtering through enscript for remote printer

[Lewis, James M.]

> Hi,
> 
> Normally, with magicfilter installed, printing out a .c file will give
> a two collumned small font sized landscape printout, because it uses
> enscript.
> 
> If you make a small tst.c and:
> $ cat tst.c|/etc/magicfilter/ljet4m-filter >~/me.ps
> $ gv me.ps
> you will see what I mean (and this works properly for me)
> 
> However, when I 
> $ lpr tst.c 
> 
> I do not get the formatting (I get plain text portrait).
> 
> /etc/printcap has:
> 
> lp|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\
> 
> :lp=lp:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hplj4l:rm=remoteprinter.lincrud:rp=hp:lpr_bounce:
> \
> :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
> :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4m-filter:\
> :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
> 
Is your printer really on a remote machine called
"remoteprinter.lincrud"?
If it is, then maybe you need to use ":lp=:".
How about a little more detail on the setup...

jim

> Is the 'if=' line not parsed for remote printing? I guess I
> could make a small script to force my printing through magicfilter.
> 
> Using lprng 3.7.4-1
> 
> regards,
> mark. 
> 
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how to configure a socks client?

[John F. Davis]

Hello

I am behind a socks firewall and I need to be able to get past it.
I put the following line in my /etc/socks.conf file:
sockd @socks.domain.com 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
direct 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0

Where domain.com is "changed to protect the innocent."

I tested the configuration by trying to do a ssh and a rtelnet
to a host outside the firewall.  Neither worked.

I'm not sure the ssh client will work anyway, but the rtelent should
have worked.

For what it matters, I can apt-get using proxy.domain.com and I can use
socks.domain.com with windows clients ok.

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Exim and critical Header

[Raffaele Sandrini]

Hi all

I saw, that exim is sending lots of critical data in the eamil header (you 
can watch it). How can i configure exim don't to do that? I don't want such 
things as my login name and domain name in the headers.

cheers,
Raffaele

problems with glide and voodoo2

[Erling Ringen Elvsrud]

Hello


I run debian 2.2 and have a creative voodoo2 card
when i run /usr/bin/test3dfx after installing libglide2-v2 and glide2-base
i get this error message:

test00:
Clear screen to blue
2.53
Resolution: 640x480
Press A Key To Begin Test.
gd error (glide): _GlideInitEnvironment: libglide2x.so expected Voodoo, none 
detected
 gd error (glide): grSstSelect:  non-existent SSTSegmentation fault


cat /proc/pci gives:

Bus  0, device   9, function  0:
Multimedia video controller: 3Dfx Voodoo2 (rev 2).
  Fast devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd800 [0xd808].


anyone can help?

thanks in advance, 

Erling

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Re: jpeg bad bitmap format file (was: xsetroot -bitmap)

[Xucaen]

--- Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > I just tried it and I got an error message
> saying
> > "bad bitmap format file"
> 
> 
> Heh, don't know... sorry ;-(
> 
> I've seen the program "xv" suggested before,
> but many get all worked up
> 'cause it's not a *free* program in the Debian
> sense of the word "free".
> 
> What does xsetroot say if you use a jpg file
> you downloaded from

I didn't try this, but I think it wn't work.
someone else on the user list told me that a
bitmap is 2(?) colors and that xsetroot expects a
2(?) color bitmap. anything else won't work.
I just discovered a program called xpmroot which
uses an .xpm. but so far I haven't found anything
that will use a .jpg. how are you doing it?

> somewhere else instead of one you made with
> gimp ?? Speaking of gimp,
> how are you telling it what format to use ?? I
> think you have to tell
> gimp to use "jpg" or "bmp" format ... just
> naming it that way *may* not
> do it.

correct. I tell it specifically which format to
save as. I have saved as "jpeg" and as "bmp"
ah well.. at least I can play around with xpmroot
now.


> 
> Good luck
> Hall
> 

my luck comes from this list.  :-)

thanks everyone!!

xucaen

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Re: Help w/ pcmcia

[Philipp Schulte]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:12:47PM -0800, Nick wrote: 

> I am currently using a compaq 1220,
> I have the linksys pcmcia 10/100 adapter
> I got it because it can w/ linux(turbo) so I had to assume it was compatible
> 
> I have a base installation of 2.1 w/ 2.0.38 kernel
> What driver can I use for this card

You need to install both pcmcia-cs (which provides the necessary
utilities like cardmgr) and pcmcia-modules (which provides the actual
driver).
If both packages are installed your card should be working out of the box.
Phil

Re: SOLVED: Re: ~/.xsession causes X to restart (infinite loop)

[David B . Harris]

To quote Xucaen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# Hi all..
# thanks foir all your help, because of you I
# figured it out.
# 
# for some reason, fvwm starts automatically (I
# haven't figured out why)
# and when I created my .xsession, fvwm no longer
# loaded, so I had to load it myself from my
# .xsession script.
# so now my last line of my .xsession is:
# exec fvwm &
# and all is well.  :-)
# 
# does anyone know why creating .xsession causes
# fvwm to NOT load anymore? I'd really like to know
# why

There is something like a default .xsession . Now, if you have your own,
it doesn't run that one, it runs yours. If it tried to run the default
one too, you might end up having two window managers fighting over the
desktop, and things like that.

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)

Re: Files that aren't supposed to be there

[Jon Forsberg]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:42:45PM -0600, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
> Greetings,
>   Someone recently mentioned a deb that would look through your system and
> basically find files that were not supposed to be there.  I would think that
> this would be to remove those last bits of configuration files that don't
> get cleanly removed by dpkg (i.e. foo not empty...), but it would also sniff
> out anything that might be there from a hack.  I would like it for the
> former reason, but I can't find the email, and I can't find it in the
> archives.  Does anyone remember what it was?

cruft?

--zzed

Re: HowTo Install SendMail on Debian2.2

[Rick Rezinas]

I did this on 2.0 and it seemed pretty straightforward.  If you are concerned
about compatibility with debian stuff, try installing the sendmail package,
configure it to your system, copy the mc and cf files, uninstall sendmail and
then do the manual install of 8.11 using the old configs as models.  But, you
should be able to just install it (and purge exim) anyhow.  

rick

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Vikas Jolly wrote:

>  Hi
> 
> I have been using the Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 ("potato").I want to install 
> sendmail. I have the latest version of sendmail : "sendmail.8.11.2.tar.gz". I 
> have searched different sites regarding the installation but everyone gives 
> different methods and
>  directory structures.
>  
> Kindly let me know the brief steps involved and the pre-requisites to install 
> SendMail On Debian 2.2
>  

Re: am i hacked?

[Philippe Marzouk]

Le jeu, 25 jan 2001 13:47:17, cls/cs a écrit :
> debs,
> 
> i just ran uptime on my single-user box connected to the office dsl
> pipe.
> 
> it shows 3 users; and there's only one non-root account.  
> 
> 1.  how do i find out who are the other 2 users?
> 
> 2.  does this mean that i've be hacked?
> 
> ia, t.
> 
w or who give you the users currently logged in

You should get a book on using and/or administering Unix...

Philippe
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SOLVED: Re: ~/.xsession causes X to restart (infinite loop)

[mike polniak]

Xucaen wrote:
> Hi all..
> thanks foir all your help, because of you I
> figured it out.
> 
> for some reason, fvwm starts automatically (I
> haven't figured out why)
> and when I created my .xsession, fvwm no longer
> loaded, so I had to load it myself from my
> .xsession script.
> so now my last line of my .xsession is:
> exec fvwm &
> and all is well.  :-)
> 
> does anyone know why creating .xsession causes
> fvwm to NOT load anymore? I'd really like to know
> why

Without the $HOME/.xsession file the realstartup=x-window-manager,
which links to  /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager (run update-alternatives
-- config x-window-manager to see your selections), in your case the default 
selection is fvwm. With the .xsession file the realstartup=$HOME/.xsession. 
This is from my reading of the script in:
file:/etc/X11/Xsession.d/50xfree86-common_determine-startup
-- 

~~~

Re: Files that aren't supposed to be there

[Glyn Millington]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:42:45PM -0600, thus spake Brooks R. Robinson:
> Greetings,
>   Someone recently mentioned a deb that would look through your system and
> basically find files that were not supposed to be there.  I would think that
> this would be to remove those last bits of configuration files that don't
> get cleanly removed by dpkg (i.e. foo not empty...), but it would also sniff
> out anything that might be there from a hack.  I would like it for the
> former reason, but I can't find the email, and I can't find it in the
> archives.  Does anyone remember what it was?

orphan  or cruft (not the dog show!)

Glyn

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   *the rest love not freedom but license *
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Re: am i hacked?

[Colin Watson]

cls/cs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i just ran uptime on my single-user box connected to the office dsl pipe.
>
>it shows 3 users; and there's only one non-root account.  
>
>1.  how do i find out who are the other 2 users?

Type 'who'.

>2.  does this mean that i've be hacked?

Chances are it's three local logins, so don't panic.

The output of 'who' (and perhaps 'w' as well) should make things clear.
It's probably just an X session and two xterms, or something.

-- 
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RE: am i hacked?

[Brooks R. Robinson]

man who

> -Original Message-
> From: Debian User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of cls/cs
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:47 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: am i hacked?
> 
> 
> debs,
> 
> i just ran uptime on my single-user box connected to the office dsl pipe.
> 
> it shows 3 users; and there's only one non-root account.  
> 
> 1.  how do i find out who are the other 2 users?
> 
> 2.  does this mean that i've be hacked?
> 
> ia, t.
> 
> bentley taylor.
> 
> 
> running: debian gnu/linux ( http://www.debian.org )
> kernel:  2.2.17
> 
> //
> 
> 
> 

Re: tripple booting dos/win/linux

[Ralf Batri]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:09:42PM -, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> hi, how is it possible to tripple boot dos/win/linux?  what i have done so

Just take grub, it's in debian stable/testing

It's GREAT booting WinXX, BSD and Linux without any probs !

Ralf

Files that aren't supposed to be there

[Brooks R. Robinson]

Greetings,
Someone recently mentioned a deb that would look through your system and
basically find files that were not supposed to be there.  I would think that
this would be to remove those last bits of configuration files that don't
get cleanly removed by dpkg (i.e. foo not empty...), but it would also sniff
out anything that might be there from a hack.  I would like it for the
former reason, but I can't find the email, and I can't find it in the
archives.  Does anyone remember what it was?

Thanks,

Brooks

am i hacked?

[cls/cs]

debs,

i just ran uptime on my single-user box connected to the office dsl pipe.

it shows 3 users; and there's only one non-root account.  

1.  how do i find out who are the other 2 users?

2.  does this mean that i've be hacked?

ia, t.

bentley taylor.


running: debian gnu/linux ( http://www.debian.org )
kernel:  2.2.17

//


Script started on Thu Jan 25 12:40:30 2001
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uptime
 12:40pm  up 3 days, 18:54,  3 users,  load average: 0.04, 0.02, 0.00
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ exit
exit

Script done on Thu Jan 25 12:40:37 2001

Re: Another newbie (problems with installation)

[Kent West]

Patrick Klee wrote:


I'm not sure what problem you're describing.

If your machine will boot off the CD, don't worry about floppies (except
to make a boot floppy near the end of the install for emergency
purposes). If your machine won't boot off the CD, you have to create
some boot/root floppies to get the process started, but rather than go
into details, let me just ask that you post further information as to
what problems you're having.

Kent




I can't boot off of the CD's but I start to install the drivers off of
floppies, and it loads for about 5 seconds, then says it can't find the
file, something like /lib/modules/ not found.

Oh, now I just found out that when I boot from the rescue floppy.  After it
loads into the install screen, or as it is loading, I get a rolling screen
of errors, that says can't load something/li b/modules, I think.  No my
friend, burnt the CDs and created the floppies and he got everything
working, so I know it is probably me, I just can't find the problem, and I
am pretty sure I tried everything at least I can think of.  It there a
troubleshooting HOWTO?  HELP!!!  :-)

I REALLY want this install to work, I am usin debian in college and I want
to be able to comple and run my homework at home.



I'm replying to this, and adding the Debian list back in as a recipient, 
so that:

  1) Other people who may know more than me can throw in their 2 cents
  2) The mail archives have a complete record for other people with 
similar problems in the future.


It's been a while since I've done a floppy-based install, so I don't 
remember off the top of my head all that's needed, and I'm short on time 
at the moment so can't do research. However, other people on this list 
may be able to help out soon, and I can get back to it later.


One thing that might help is to know what type of hardware you have: 
laptop/desktop, brand, CPU, SCSI vs IDE drives, ATAPI CD drive vs 
proprietary, RAM, size of hard drive, any odd hardware, etc.


Also, are the floppies labelled? How many do you have? What order are 
you putting them in? Do you ever get to the point where it asks for a 
second (third, etc) floppy?

Re: SOLVED: Re: ~/.xsession causes X to restart (infinite loop)

[Pollywog]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:22:51 -0800 (PST), Xucaen said:

>  
>  does anyone know why creating .xsession causes
>  fvwm to NOT load anymore? I'd really like to know
>  why

I don't think you need the "&" following your window manager.

--
Andrew

building pine from debs

[Romain Lerallut]

Sorry if it's a usual problem, but I can't find info in the archives.
Here it is
(it's pine 3-96)


apt-get source -b pine




and then:

install bin/pine debian/tmp/usr/bin
install: cannot stat `bin/pine': No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [binaryPine] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine-3.96M'
make: *** [binary-arch] Error 2
Build command 'cd pine-3.96M && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.


Thanks for any help, I don't like mutt that much (besides, I'm used to
pine:)
Romain

Re: nfs-common

[Colin Watson]

Brock Murch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have been getting this error every so often in the syslog:
>
>Is this a  nfs-common bug? or a syslogd bug?
>
>running:
>
>Linux brockwell 2.2.17 #2 Thu Sep 14 06:08:37 EDT 2000 i486 unknown
>
>all packages from the stable upgrade of that time.
>
>
>Jan 18 19:16:45 brockwell
>Jan 18 19:16:45 brockwell syslogd: Cannot glue message parts together
>Jan 18 19:16:45 brockwell 173>Jan 18 19:16:45 /sbin/rpc.statd[165]:
>gethostbyname error for ^X^X^Y
[...]

It could be someone trying an NFS exploit against your system, though
potato systems shouldn't be vulnerable to it.

>f
>Jan 18 19:16:45 brockwell
>^F/binF^D/shA0<88>F^G<89>v^L<8D>V^P<8D>N^L<89>^K<80>^A<80>^?

This, in particular, looks very suspicious. Notice the /bin/sh.

Just in case, check for anything odd on your system, perhaps running
debsums after booting from a floppy if you're worried about it; as I
said, I don't believe you're vulnerable to this one, so instead see if
you can figure out from tcpdumps or whatever who's responsible and
report them to the relevant authorities.

-- 
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Re: nfs-common

[Philippe Marzouk]

Le jeu, 25 jan 2001 19:19:11, Brock Murch a écrit :
> I have been getting this error every so often in the syslog:
> 
> Is this a  nfs-common bug? or a syslogd bug?

It is an attack attempt.

Look in the archives of debian-security there was some discussions on
this on January, 9th

Philippe
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unofficial pine 4.32 .debs available

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

I've updated my unofficial binary (i386) .debs of pine, pilot, and pico
to 4.32 which was released last week.

You can get them from http://www.braincells.com/debian/pine/
or by adding the following lines to your apt sources:

deb http://www.braincells.com/pub/debian/Local sid/
deb-src  http://www.braincells.com/pub/debian/Local sid/

(for woody/sid users)

or

deb http://www.braincells.com/pub/debian/Local potato/
deb-src  http://www.braincells.com/pub/debian/Local potato/

(for potato users)

Enjoy!

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Problem with X (Intel i810) ...

[NVasconcelos]

Hello,

I´m having problems with X instalation 

I won, one time, view the X, but when rebooted the machine the X crashed !!

Machine:

IBM NetVista 6229, chipset i810.


There are attached:

x.log -> X log;
dpkg.log -> out of dpkg --list | grep xfree
dmesg.txt -> dmesg > dmesg.txt


Thanks,
Nivaldo


Nivaldo A. P. de Vasconcelos
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: xsetroot -bitmap???

[Touloumtzis, Michael]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:40:30AM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
> hi all..
> sorry about all the stipid questions
> is there an xsetroot HOWTO out there?  :-)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls
> aim.xpm  new.bmp  test  test.xpm
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xsetroot -bitmap ~/new.bmp
> xsetroot: bad bitmap format file:
> /home/xucaen/new.bmp
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> I made new.bmp using gimp.
> any clues?
> 
> I get "unable to open file" errors when I try to
> use xmp files.
> 
> thanks all!!!
> 
> xucaen

Maybe you're looking for xsetbg (in the xloadimage package)?

-- 
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Ingres Product Development  Computer Associates International

Re: Compiling source .debs

[Colin Watson]

"Timothy H. Keitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Colin Watson wrote:
>> Johan Groth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'm a newbie to Debian (a former Red Hat user) and am wondering how to
>>> recompile a .deb from a src .deb with different compile options than the
>>> default ones? In Red Hat you change rpmrc and then type rpm -rebuild
>>> . I assume there is something similar in Debian.
>> 
>> Yes, you cd to the top-level directory of the unpacked source tree,
>> change debian/rules and possibly other files, and type
>> 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot' (you need the dpkg-dev and fakeroot
>> packages). If you install the devscripts package you can just type
>> 'debuild'.
>> 
>> (For both of those commands, adding '-us -uc' will stop the package
>> building scripts from trying to sign the source package or the .changes
>> file, which unless you're the maintainer you normally won't be able to
>> do.)
>
>Anyway to get this to work with 'apt-get --compile source '?  
>It would be really nice if there were a way to override the default 
>compile flags on a system wide basis.

Not yet. There's just way too much variation in the upstream Makefiles
that Debian packages are based on for this to be easily standardized.
Setting CFLAGS in your environment may often work, depending on the
package.

Debian policy is moving in this sort of direction, though, I think. For
example, packages at policy version 3.2.0 or above should support
setting DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug in the environment to compile with
debugging support, or DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug,nostrip to refrain from
stripping debugging symbols from the resulting binaries - if it makes
sense for them to do so, of course. Apart from that, I suppose the main
compiler flags you might want to set on a system-wide basis would be
optimization levels and processor-specific tuning. The pentium-builder
package may help with this.

-- 
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nfs-common

[Brock Murch]

I have been getting this error every so often in the syslog:

Is this a  nfs-common bug? or a syslogd bug?

running:

Linux brockwell 2.2.17 #2 Thu Sep 14 06:08:37 EDT 2000 i486 unknown

all packages from the stable upgrade of that time.


Jan 18 19:16:45 brockwell
Jan 18 19:16:45 brockwell syslogd: Cannot glue message parts together
Jan 18 19:16:45 brockwell 173>Jan 18 19:16:45 /sbin/rpc.statd[165]:
gethostbyname error for ^X^X^Y
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SOLVED! Re: problem playing audio CD's

[Philipp Bliedung]

Hi,

I solved my "problem" :)  - I just didn't log out and back in before trying to
setup cdcd 
I also changed myself and the cd-drive to the cdrom group :)

Thnaks a lot!
Philipp

Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

> Hi Philipp,
>
> Did u log out, and back in? This typically takes care of that. And btw,
> I just read through more of this string and I really like changing the
> group to cdrom and then just adding yourself and whoever else will use
> the cdrom - it's much more sanitary then adding yourself to disk.
>
> hth, tatah
>
> On Wednesday 24 January 2001 14:21, Philipp Bliedung wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > thanks for your responses!
> > I can now access audio-cd's BUT ONLY AS ROOT!
> > I changed my setting in  /dev to this:
> >
> > brw-rw 1 rootdisk   3   Oct  29  00:03 /dev/cdrom
> > ->hdc
> > brw-rw 1 rootdisk22, 0  Jul  5   2000  /dev/hdc
> >
> > I added the user (user1) to this group:
> > # adduser user1 disk
> >
> > now ROOT can play CD's but not user1 - is there any other group I don't
> > belong to?
> > When I try to specify the device in cdcd I get 'Permission denied' (trying
> > to add /dev/cdrom)
> > What else can I do?
> > BTW cdcd is working great :) (but just for root for now)
> >
> > TIA,
> > Philipp
> >
> > Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> > > Philipp,
> > >
> > > No worries. Many have been here before :)
> > >
> > > You don't mount an audio cd! You just play it etc. So, under
> > > your gnome, just fire up the cdplayer that comes with it. If you
> > > use kde, use the cdplayer that comes with it. Just need to confinger
> > > your device (/dev/hdb, /dev/hdc etc).
> > >
> > > Also, add yourself to your cdgroup.
> > >
> > > ~ pts/0> ls -al /dev/hdd
> > > brw-rw1 root disk  22,  64 Feb 22  1999 /dev/hdd
> > > YOU ARE ROOT!! on bogus
> > > ~ pts/0> ls -al /dev/hdc
> > > brw-rw1 root disk  22,   0 Feb 22  1999 /dev/hdc
> > > YOU ARE ROOT!! on bogus
> > >
> > > Here you see it's owned by root and belongs to 'disk', so I added myself
> > > to that group:  'adduser me disk'  as root.  There are also safer
> > > ways to do this, check back with the list.
> > >
> > > also, I like the cdcd package for playing my cdroms in pure console mode
> > > (no x running). 'apt-get install cdcd' will do the trick. For adjusting
> > > the volume, I like aumix, again, 'apt-get install aumix' :)
> > >
> > > I really hope this helps.
> > >
> > > tatah
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 24 January 2001 10:49, Philipp Bliedung wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm new to the multimedia things under Linux :)
> > > > I have the problem that I can't play audio CD's on my computer.
> > > > I've installed everyhting that's related to sound properly - so I'm
> > > > able to play mp3s, *.wav,etc. with freeamp for example, but when I put
> > > > in a CD (even CD's I bought, no CD-R or CD-RW) and I want to mount it I
> > > > get:
> > > >
> > > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom or too
> > > > many mounted file systems
> > > >
> > > > Even as root I can't do it!  This is how /etc/fstab looks like:
> > > >
> > > > /dev/cdrom   /cdrom   iso9660
> > > > defaults,user,noauto,ro  00
> > > >
> > > > When I start 'gcd 2.91' under Gnome I get this:
> > > >
> > > > "Unable to open cd device. Please make sure that you are using teh
> > > > correct device and that you have permission to access the device.."
> > > > The cd-drive works perfectely fine with every CD (cd-rom). So it's not
> > > > the cd-drive that's not working!
> > > >
> > > > What am I missing, or what am I doing wrong? Any ideas for a good
> > > > cd-player?
> > > >
> > > > TIA!!
> > > > Philipp
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074
> > > http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145
> > > This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian
> > > If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
>
> --
>
> Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074
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> This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian
> If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.

SOLVED: Re: ~/.xsession causes X to restart (infinite loop)

[Xucaen]

Hi all..
thanks foir all your help, because of you I
figured it out.

for some reason, fvwm starts automatically (I
haven't figured out why)
and when I created my .xsession, fvwm no longer
loaded, so I had to load it myself from my
.xsession script.
so now my last line of my .xsession is:
exec fvwm &
and all is well.  :-)

does anyone know why creating .xsession causes
fvwm to NOT load anymore? I'd really like to know
why

thanks again!! 

xucaen
--- "David B. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> To quote Xucaen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> # Hi all..
> # here's what's happening:
> # I created ~/.xsession and it causes X to
> restart
> # immediately upon login (I type my password,
> hit
> # return(enter) and poof! the screen flickers
> and
> # I'm prompted again for user name and
> password)
> # 
> # I've tried about 5 different variations of
> the
> # contents of ~/.xsession, including all lines
> # commented out.
> 
> You know, it *might* be useful to include your
> .xsession.
> 
> David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
> Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or
death.)


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Re: IRC and Firewall

[Rino Mardo]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:12:15PM -0500 or thereabouts, Hall Stevenson wrote:
> > I'm sitting behind a firewall and want to use IRC. The
> > firewall does masquerading and is also limiting incoming
> > and outgoing traffic. I thought the problem may be identd
> > which can not access my machine behind the firewall.
> > But iptraf shows also that my connection is not
> > answered (the S bit is displayed).
> 
> Don't some or most IRC servers require being able to "ident" you ?? You
> may have to install or enable it.
> 

ident is not required.  what you need to do is allow port 6667 thru your
firewall
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Re: my maxed out memory - still ok?

[Dietmar Schultz]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:33:49PM -0600, Casey Webster wrote:
> any time you are lookin at memory usage, you need to subtract out the
> totals for buff and cache.  Right now your system is only using roughly
[...]

If you use free instead ot top, it shows you (or me):

oskar:~$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers  cached
Mem:128372  99580  28792  72096   2720   36008
-/+ buffers/cache:  60852  67520   <--+
Swap:   192772   1540 191232  |
 /
the values you want to see. Would be more impressive if I had more
memory.

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Re: xsetroot -bitmap???

[Xucaen]

--- brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:40:30AM -0800,
> Xucaen wrote:
> 
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls
> > aim.xpm  new.bmp  test  test.xpm
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xsetroot -bitmap
> ~/new.bmp
> > xsetroot: bad bitmap format file:
> > /home/xucaen/new.bmp
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> > 
> > I made new.bmp using gimp.
> > any clues?
> 
> Yes.  '.bmp' is almost certainly a Windows
> bitmap.  That's not what X

even if I create it from scratch with gimp? 


> wants.  (X bitmaps are typically named '.xbm',
> and are two-color.)
> 
> > I get "unable to open file" errors when I try
> to
> > use xmp files.
> 
> If you want to set the background to a color
> image, use a color image
> format (like jpeg, gif, xpm, whatever) and:
> 
>   xli image.jpeg
> 
> (xli is in the 'xli' package.)
> 

I don't know what xli is. I looked for it using
apt-cache search xli but didn't find anything.
what is xli? is it some sort of image converter?

thanks!!

xucaen

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Re: ~/.xsession causes X to restart (infinite loop)

[David B . Harris]

To quote Xucaen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# Hi all..
# here's what's happening:
# I created ~/.xsession and it causes X to restart
# immediately upon login (I type my password, hit
# return(enter) and poof! the screen flickers and
# I'm prompted again for user name and password)
# 
# I've tried about 5 different variations of the
# contents of ~/.xsession, including all lines
# commented out.

You know, it *might* be useful to include your .xsession.

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)

poff doesn't exit connection properly (was: Problems with apt-get and pppd)

[Frank Preut]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:01:49AM +0100, Frank Preut wrote:
> hello everyone,
> 
>   i have two problems with my potato system which _really_ get on
> my nerves..
> 
> 1) i use pon/poff for my dialup connection.. the problem with this is
> that poff somehow doesn't seem to completely close the connection or
> something because when i try to re-connect with pon nothing happens..
> that's also the reason why dial on demand isn't feasible.. i have to
> repeat poff twice to be able connect again.. i have checked syslog but
> the last message is pppd: exit..
> 

okay to elaborate further on this: again i work on potato and haven't
fiddled with the ppp stuff other than setting up the connection with
pppconfig.. since the problem *might* be related to some modem issues: i
have an elsa microlink 56k.. i don't see this problem when i use, for
instance, wvdial, but i don't want to use wvdial and i would like to use
dial on demand..

any pointers to a possible solutions appreciated,
frank.

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Re: xsetroot -bitmap???

[brian moore]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:40:30AM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
> hi all..
> sorry about all the stipid questions
> is there an xsetroot HOWTO out there?  :-)

Just the man page.

> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls
> aim.xpm  new.bmp  test  test.xpm
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xsetroot -bitmap ~/new.bmp
> xsetroot: bad bitmap format file:
> /home/xucaen/new.bmp
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> I made new.bmp using gimp.
> any clues?

Yes.  '.bmp' is almost certainly a Windows bitmap.  That's not what X
wants.  (X bitmaps are typically named '.xbm', and are two-color.)

> I get "unable to open file" errors when I try to
> use xmp files.

If you want to set the background to a color image, use a color image
format (like jpeg, gif, xpm, whatever) and:

  xli image.jpeg

(xli is in the 'xli' package.)

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Re: Mutt, unnoticed new mail and improper access/change times

[David Wright]

Quoting Carel Fellinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):> 
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 03:42:47PM +, David Wright wrote:... 
> > Thanks - I've had to modify it slightly for a Sun because touch isn't
> > so clever, and it becomes either

> wonder what happens of you go to far west and hit the date border:)

Yes, also the time is too far into the future, it seems; so I've come
up with the following which seems to work, and should avoid the 2 sec
locking time:

{
:0:
| cat >>$BOX
:0
| sleep 2 && touch -m $BOX
}

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jpeg bad bitmap format file (was: xsetroot -bitmap)

[Xucaen]

--- Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls
> > aim.xpm  new.bmp  test  test.xpm
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xsetroot -bitmap
> ~/new.bmp
> > xsetroot: bad bitmap format file:
> > /home/xucaen/new.bmp
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> > 
> > I made new.bmp using gimp.
> > any clues?
> 
> Why not use something like "jpeg" instead ??
> 
> Hall
> 

I just tried it and I got an error message saying
"bad bitmap format file"


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Re: xsetroot -bitmap???

[Hall Stevenson]

> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls
> aim.xpm  new.bmp  test  test.xpm
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xsetroot -bitmap ~/new.bmp
> xsetroot: bad bitmap format file:
> /home/xucaen/new.bmp
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> I made new.bmp using gimp.
> any clues?

Why not use something like "jpeg" instead ??

Hall

Re: Netscape Woes

[Ray Percival]

apt-get install netscape Also works well and get all the depends 
right. I do agree though that three or four installs are about 
right for learning. I would suggest that you try to apt-get 
everything you can things IMHO just work better that way.
-- Original Message --
From: kmself@ix.netcom.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:46:00 -0800

>on Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 12:51:45PM -0600, ktb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 

wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 08:12:22AM -0500, Howell Caton wrote:
>> > 
>> > As a complete newbie, I had to install linux 2.2 several 

times before I got
>> > all the kinks worked out.  Each time I downloaded netscape 

2.76 from
>> > ftp.netscape.com.  I'd get the error message 

"libstdc++=libc6.1-1.so.2
>> > not available".  I solved that by linking it to 

libstdc++=libc6.1-2.so.3,
>> > which is probably not relevant, but I don't know for sure.  

Anyway, it
>> > worked.
>> > 
>> > The last time I re-installed, I used netscape 3.? from the 

Debian
>> > distribution.  It worked, but was hopelessly outdated.  So I 

downloaded
>> > 4.76 again and installed it over my 3.? installation.  When I 

ran it, I got
>> > a "bus error" message.  Thinking that some files from my 3.? 

version
>> > wer still around causing incompatibitites with 4.76 stuff, I 

ripped
>> > everything out
>> > and re-installed 4.76.  I still got the "bus error" message.
>> > 
>> > I don't have a clue about how to troubleshoot this problem.  

Can anyone
>> > help?
>> > Thanks!
>> > 
>> 
>> First I don't know why you did the multiple installs of debian.
>> Sometimes it is warranted but for the most part you can fix 

problems
>> without reboots and reinstalling.  I'm sure you gained some 

valuable
>> install experience though.
>
>My experience has been that three installs of a new distro are 

often
>warrented:  once to see how it works, twice to try to get it 

right,
>thrice to get it right.  And yes, it's a good way to learn.  Best 

thing
>to do is to keep the install to a minimum, allowing you to cycle 

through
>the sequence quickly.  I tend to like to play extensively with
>partitioning and such.  I almost always find I did something that 

I'd
>prefer to have differently.
>
>> As to your current dilemma I would suggest you make life easy 

for
>> yourself and use "apt-get."  I would clean out the netscape 

stuff you
>> already have and "apt-get install netscape-smotif-476"
>
>Ditto.
>
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>
>

Re: tripple booting dos/win/linux

[ktb]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:05:27PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > where can i get system commander? is it free? saqib
> 
> No, but it's worth it.  Check out http://www.systemcommander.com .
> 

This is just a suggestion but there is a free boot loader called -
"os-bs"  You can get it at any openbsd mirror such as - 
ftp://ftp.src.uchicago.edu/pub/openbsd/2.8/tools/

I believe it will fit your needs.  Worth a look anyway.
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xsetroot -bitmap???

[Xucaen]

hi all..
sorry about all the stipid questions
is there an xsetroot HOWTO out there?  :-)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls
aim.xpm  new.bmp  test  test.xpm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xsetroot -bitmap ~/new.bmp
xsetroot: bad bitmap format file:
/home/xucaen/new.bmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

I made new.bmp using gimp.
any clues?

I get "unable to open file" errors when I try to
use xmp files.

thanks all!!!

xucaen

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