making bootable CD from running debian setup
Point me to the faq -- i don't know where to look for it or what it might be named... Objective: to create a bootable CD for a Debian network hub-like system that'll have NO hard drive (and probably no keyboard or monitor, either). booting from rad-only media assures simplicity of recovery in case anything gets borked (black hats, misfortune, unintentional changes). I'm setting up a debian/potato install to fit on a CD rom that i'd like to have as bootable -- in that i'd like to use the CD rom as the SOLE non-network device on a no-disk server. I.e. old pentium box with a cd rom and floppy drive (for variable settings) but no hard drive, eventually. Of course, to get there, i'm installing and testing and tweaking on a hard drive. But the end result should be a bootable CD that doesn't need a hard drive at all. I can partition my current drive with a 600mb partition which would fit on a CD, and get it working -- on hard disk, anyway -- and create an ISO image (mkisofs i presume?) But there's so much writing to /var and /tmp by ordinary procedures that i wonder if a read-only boot can work at all! Is there some way to make a ram disk (as i think the debian rescue/install CD does) during boot-up from such a CD rom? and then, once i have an ISO image, can i ftp that to a win or mac box to burn the cd? i haven't got a burner for my debian monster yet... :( so, regarding all these points: - what's it take to create a cd image - that's bootable - from a working hard-drive based system - that'll peel off into ramdisk for /var & /tmp writing - and that will be able to read (settings) from /dev/fd0 - perhaps logging remotely, based on those settings i ask: how? <-- such a little question, needing such a big answer :) pointers hither and yon are requested. -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: debian 2.2r3 ?
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001, Rick Commo wrote: > Thanks, > > Did the three steps - now running r3 I guess. Interestingly creating the > boot floppy seems to have awry. > > It asked me if I wanted to format the floppy. I answered yes. At some > point it threw up an error message saying "mformat not found" Rick, Hi. I think it'll let you proceed with formatting the floppy even if it doesn't have the final binary 'mformat' to do the final stage. My guess is that an initial 'apt-get install mtools' should let you do this in the future. Hope this helps, Daniel -- Daniel A. Freedman Laboratory for Atomic and Solid State Physics Department of Physics Cornell University
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Ross Boylan wrote: > I have a similar problem, but slightly different packages: > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: > libgnomesupport0: Depends: gnome-libs-data (>= 1.2.13-4) but > 1.2.11-ximian.1 is installed > libgnomeui32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (>= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is > installed > > Could anyone explain what is going on? Would apt-get install on the > two packages fix things up? When I do it as a trial run it seems to > work, though I get a large number of packages it would reconfigure. I upgraded a couple potato systems to woody and then sid and got very similar errors. apt-get dist-upgrade got stuck at a point like this. I finally did apt-get install libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32 gnome-libs-data (or maybe it was just gnome-libs-data; sorry I'm not sure) which worked, and then I went back to dist-upgrade and continued. I have two more potato systems to upgrade. I think I'll try purging helix stuff first as suggested. ...RickM...
RE: debian 2.2r3 ?
Thanks, Did the three steps - now running r3 I guess. Interestingly creating the boot floppy seems to have awry. It asked me if I wanted to format the floppy. I answered yes. At some point it threw up an error message saying "mformat not found" It did some more stuff, printed more message lines, including some that indicated the number or records in and number of records out. Wished I hadn't rebooted so fast and made a copy! I assume that the format would have been msdos - but is that necessarily true? -rick -Original Message- From: Ethan Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . upgrading from r0 or r1 or r2 to r3 is as simple as: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19 . . .
newbie faq
here's another proposal for a meta-faq for newbies-- http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0008/msg02823.html -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
:: Ross Boylan :: > Is this a bug with anything, or just an inevitable result of trying to put > unlike things (ximian and debian) together? If you are running unstable (sid), you should not be running Ximian's Gnome. Purge their packages (they have ximian or helix in their version) and use Debian's. // joey tsai
lists.debian.org: FAQ / tip-of-the-day
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 02:01:24PM -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 09:05:43AM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote:
> > What might help is a daily post to the list with a subject line
> > "NEW TO LIST? READ THIS!!"
> >
> > containing some basic advice on how to ask for help and on one or two
> > basic resources (like "man foo" and "apropos foo"). Not knowing how to
> > ask seems a recurring problem that often sparks the kind of debate we've
> > just seen.
>
> I think this is a wonderful idea and I'd love to help out. I would
> suggest that instead of a daily post, this FAQ should be included in
> the confirmation that you get when you subscribe to the list, or
> perhaps sent as a second message at the same time; I've copied this
> post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to ask if this is feasible.
daily is waaay too often. there's plenty of traffic on the list
already... YET a periodic re-post is not a bad (or original)
idea. many newsgroups publish their faq, sometimes multi-part
faq's, monthly or quarterly.
another thing for lists.debian.org and the team to consider might
be a random "TIP" in the email signature. the postgresql mailing
list bot does this, altho i've only seen five distinct tips (or
is it four) with debian we could have hundreds, easily!
something like
Looking for apt-related commands? At your command prompt,
type "apt" and then press TAB instead of ENTER.
or
How do you set up your /etc/apt/sources.list file for
apt-get? Try apt-setup!
or
Looking for commands dealing with web servers? Try the
command "apropos http"!
similar to a fortune-of-the-day, but instead it's a
tip-of-the-email (three lines, max!) appended to the end of any
plain text message broadcast through the listbot server. hmm?
and we could munge together a way to have your average joe submit
his own (or jane, her own) tips to be included at random, surely.
--
and a list-related faq is still a good idea!
> I imagine the following format:
>
> --- begin hypothetical message ---
> Subject: Frequently Asked Questions on debian-user
nice start so far. add it to http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net?
[snip]
> This document is designed to help you ask good questions. Your
> question has a greatly increased chance of getting a useful answer if
> it:
>
> o indicates that you have read the relevant documentation, or at
> least tried to (section 1);
> o is precise about the problem, including model numbers of relevant
> hardware, the exact output of error messages, software version
> numbers, etc. (section 2);
> o [follows some other advice ...]
> o is polite :)
>
> To that end, the rest of this document has the following structure:
>
> 1. How to Find (and Understand) Documentation
> 1.1 Figuring Out the Name of a Command
> apropos
> [tab][tab]
> ... ?
> 1.2 Figuring Out How to Use a Command
> man
> info
> /usr/doc/
that's /usr/share/doc/* these days
> READMEs
HOWTOs
> ... ?
> 1.3 Installation Documentation [should perhaps be first?]
> URLs
> files on the CD-ROM
> ... ?
> 1.4 More General Documentation
> LDP & /usr/doc/HOWTO/
> 1.5 ...?
redundancy in mentioning a document source is NOT a bad thing.
HOWTOs can be mentioned in fifteen different places on this FAQ
document, and it won't hurt a thing.
> 2. How to Ask A Good Specific Question
> 2.1 Copy the Exact Text of Error Messages!!!
> 2.2 Identifying Software
> foo --version, man foo, dpkg {-S,-L,--status} foo, ... ?
> 2.3 Identifying Hardware
> find the manual, contact the manufacturer (phone or
> web), open the case & look at the numbers, ... ?
> 2.4 ... ?
>
> --- end of hypothetical message ---
>
> Please comment.
don't let anyone put a damper on this effort. it's important!
(and when you're done -- we prefer sgml, docbook style, but we'll
accept html -- add it to our itty-bitty library at newbiedoc over
at http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc/ !)
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Re: domain name: internet vs. intra-net
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 04:54:48PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:19:40PM -0500, will trillich wrote: > > and can you give an example or two on how to use /etc/bind/* to > > set that up? (all my attempts give dlint conniptions, though > > things seem to work-though-they-wobble, with exceptions.) > > (This had better not be a sly attempt to collect a new newbiedoc...) not until we get it hammered down all nice and flat, no. :) > I have recently inherited a network which was set up with company.com > as the official, registered external domain name and company.net for > the internal systems. It is not pleasant and even somewhat confusing. > (There are other poor practices in place which make it worse, such as > foo.company.com and foo.company.net sometimes being the same machine > and sometimes not, depending on which machine you're on at the time, > but I digress...) I am now in the process of migrating the internal > network from company.net to east.company.com and west.company.com. > (Yes, it spans two buildings. Without subnets. (Yet.)) I'm finding > it _much_ easier to keep things straight with the new names. how do you manage the migration? i've got /etc/bind/ serensoft serensoft.rev lan lan.rev > What sorts of complaints is dlint giving you? So far, I've been keeping > everything on one name server with separate zone files for everything and > it doesn't bother BIND at all. (I'm having some odd routing problems, > but that doesn't have anything to do with DNS...) ERROR: "mail.serensoft.com. A 208.33.90.85", but the PTR record for 85.90.33.208.in-addr.arpa. is "ns.serensoft.com." One of the above two records are wrong unless the host is a name server or mail server. To have 2 names for 1 address on any other hosts, replace the A record with a CNAME record: mail.serensoft.com. IN CNAME ns.serensoft.com. WARNING: the zone serensoft.com. has an A record but no reverse PTR record. This is probably OK. and i'd like 208.33.90.85 to be serensoft.com eth1, visible everywhere (as it already is) 192.168.1.100 to be mac.serensoft.com but invisible to the outside net, and it should be able to ping win.serensoft.com 192.168.1.200 would be win.serensoft.com which is not visible to the outwise world 192.168.1.1 to be server.serensoft.com eth0, internal-lan only how to i separate the internal/private 'no-update' addresses from the public 'update'-able addresses, in bind/dns? -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: 2.2r3 and pseudo-image
At 10:10 PM 4/17/2001 -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote: >On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:48:22PM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote: >> I have an iso image of 2.2r2 binary 1, built using the pseudo-image kit. >> >> Q: Can I loop mount this puppy and use rsync to convert it to 2.2r3 >>binary 1? > >I converted a 2.2r1 image to 2.2r2 by using rsync on the file >directly, as if I'd just done "mv pseudo-image binary-i386-1.iso" in >the pseudo-image kit's REAME. > if, of course, any of the rsync mirrors had r3 up.. does anyone have the appropriate rsync line?
Re: boot up commands
That's good for perfect modules. What about modules that need forcing, I mean 'insmod -f '. My module has a kernel mismatch, and I have to force insmod it. I think it is not possible with /etc/modules. Once upon a time, Kevin Easton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> found a keyboard. And typed: > >Hi, > >Just stick the name of the module you want to load at boot time in >/etc/modules. > >- Kevin. > >- Original Message - >From: "V.Suresh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Debian List" >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 1:38 AM >Subject: boot up commands > > >> I want a insmod command to beperformed during booting. In which file >should >> I put it up? SHould I write a new script, and put it in /etc/init.d? >> But I don't know how to implement the start/stop functions? >> Help. >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> .---. >> | V Suresh |ILUG-Madurai Co-ordinator | >> | Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | >> | URL - www16.brinkster.com/vsuresh |[EMAIL PROTECTED]| >> |---| >> | Powered by Debian GNU/Linux Potato | >> --- >> LINUX IS NOT FOR THE FAINT-HEARTED >> >> 9:37pm up 9 min, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.06 >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > End of Original Message=Know Gnu, Know Freedom= -- Regards, .---. | V Suresh |ILUG-Madurai Co-ordinator | | Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | URL - www16.brinkster.com/vsuresh |[EMAIL PROTECTED]| |---| | Powered by Debian GNU/Linux Potato | --- LINUX IS NOT FOR THE FAINT-HEARTED 10:07pm up 39 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: flawed thinking on dist upgrade?
D Hoyem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DH> Being a Debian newbie and running Potato2.2r on a PII
DH> 350 this is the course of action that I'm thinking of
DH> taking to do a upgrade to Woody is it flawed?
DH> 1. Do a apt-get install on Adrin Bunk's .deb files
DH> 2. Do a apt-get install kernel 2.4.3 image and
DH> headers.
DH> Question...Once I do the kernel install how do I
DH> install the updated ppp that I said no to when I did
DH> the Adrin update?
DH> 3. Add the deb-src lines from Dave's Debians Doc's
DH> at dharris.freeshell.org/linux
What are these particular sources? AFAIK they aren't essential to
running the Debian testing distribution...
DH> 4 Do a apt-get update woody.
DH> 5. Do a apt-get source woody.
DH> 6. Do dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b
DH> 7. Comment out the deb-src lines then do a dpkg -i
DH> woody.deb
It sounds like you're confused on what 'woody' is. It's not a single
package; it's a constantly-updated version of all of Debian that's
newer than stable (currently 'potato') and (in theory) less broken
than unstable ('sid').
You described yourself as a Debian newbie. Why do you want to run
woody? If it breaks, are you prepared to fix it? Unless you already
have a good understanding of Unix/Linux/Debian, I'd recommend you
stick with the stable distribution since it will Just Work, a
guarantee that can't be made for either testing or unstable.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/
"Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal."
-- Abra Mitchell
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #379
ls -ld /.* > gub;ls -ld /* >> gub;cat gub -- DaveA (Debian User)= The journey of a thousand miles begins with but a single KITA. =
Re: Which package has Foul Egg game?
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 06:00:31PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > I installed Debian Sid on a machine the other day, and a new tetris-like > game appeared on the KDE menu called Foul Eggs. > I didn't think to see what package that was in, and I no longer have > access to that machine. I haven't been able to figure out what package > it's in; does anyone have the answer? ksirtet -- Dave Thayer Denver, Colorado USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 06:28:04PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > How is information destroyed by being replicated many times? > > will trillich writes: > > it's not. the RESOURCE will dry up. > > > if everybody takes and nobody gives. > > > imagine the debian team -- their time spent, unappreciated, unrewarded, > > unrecognized. they'd go elsewhere (or at least underground) without a > > community based on 'produce more than you consume'. > > You are creating a false dichotomy. It doesn't matter how many people > don't contribute. It only matters how many _do_. Which would you rather > have: a billion users and a million contributors, or a thousand users and a > hundred contributors? good catch. grammar, semantics, vocabulary. sloppily used, begets slopy thought. nice job -- i stand corrected! that was my intended point, but i mis-worded it. > > with linux, currency is 'and i helped'. with microso~1, currency is > > 'reduce your bank account'. remove the currency from the market, and the > > market -- not the products, but the market -- shrivels and dies. > > Markets are about scarcity. There is no scarcity of copies of free > software. Each additional user of pppconfig costs me absolutely _nothing_. and each additional contributor enriches you (me, us) unmeasurably. -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 03:01:09PM -0500, Brian Nelson wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:10:50AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > I'll dispute (mildly) the "it's by design" and "we like it that way". I > > think part of the issue with GNU/Linux / Unix is that it sort of > > happened that way -- with some guiding principles. But it's not crafted > > or designed so much as evolved. And it would be preferable to have a > > gentler introductory curve. > > Well, I would argue that configurability and flexibility are inversely > proportional to easy of learning. The more options you have and > different ways of accomplishing the same thing, the more you have to > learn. And since we love the configurability and flexibility of > linux, we are willing to accept a taller learning curve. I believe it > is possible to make the slope gentler, but it is very hard to do > without making the hill shorter. aha! you can also gentle-ify the slope by making the hill WIDER. if the debian.org team had a documentation-supervisor task force to run eyeballs over the docs to try to compare existing manpages & such with actual running software -- and update to match, before a major release -- i'd think it would be WONDERFUL. now how can we trick some wordsmith people into wanting to do that? > I should have said "newbie documentation". I agree that once you've > become familiar with Debian, it's very easy to find the documentation > you're looking for. With the archives of this list, and all the > additional non-Debian-specific documentation, there's a plethora of > documentation out there. > > However, these resources aren't particularly obvious for a newbie. > Just looking at the documentation section of debian.org alone isn't > very helpful. > > I can be fairly subjective about this because I've only been using > Debian for about a month, and my Debian newbie experiences are fresh > in my mind. I found initially that I had a bitch of a time finding > the answers to my questions. I always did find the answers, but it > was a struggle. have you written a 'finding this-n-that on debian: a newbie howto' yet? > > Again, most of the Debian defaults are pretty sane. I tend to roll > > stuff out and have it work. Though reading docs is useful, some > > packages require configuration. And yes, you have to be there for it. > > Yep, but you're not new to Debian. You know too much. ;) If you are > new to it, it is quite difficult. -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: How to partition hard drive?
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001, will trillich wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 05:57:44PM +0200, Allan Andersen wrote: > > If it's for personal use I would use something like similar to this: > > > > /boot - 16 MB bootable > > swap - 2 x amount of RAM in the PC > > / - the rest > > that's a great first-install concept. > > how big your partitions are will depend ENTIRELY on what you use > your computer for. graphics leans this way, web server leans that > way, and gamer's paradise is completely different altogether. > there's no set defined best way for all instances. you gotta > figure it out for yourself. > > after you munge and install and remove and configure and add and > download and tweak -- for a month -- you'll finally have things > running the way you like. > > THEN you do a > > du /usr/local > du /var > du /home > du /etc <-- just kidding > du /usr <-- subtract /usr/local, of course > > to find out how much you've used. > > i'd rank each as a PERCENTAGE of the entire disk space, unless > you feel like keeping a large partition at the end in case of > "i'd sure like to break off this subtree" emergency... > > then do > > dpkg --get-selections '*' > ~/installed.packages > > and back up /home and /usr/local, reformat, repartition to > reflect your usage percentages: > > /boot = 10mb or less? > / = % from 'du' above > /home = % from 'du' above > swap= 2 * ram > /var= % from 'du' above > /usr/local = % from 'du' above > /usr= % from 'du' above > > the partitions that are busiest should be in the middle, IMHO. > > now you can restore /usr/local and /home, then reinstall your set > packages with > > dpkg --set-selections < ~/installed.packages Hi, I think Will makes a good suggestion for this "empirically"-tuned hard-drive partitioning scheme. The only thing I might add is that the above outlined approach will lose any customization you might have made to config files in /etc (of course dotfiles in your home directories have been backed up). Therefore, I would probably add a backup of the /etc directory to archive these customizations. Debian's smart enough not to mess with config files via 'apt-get upgrade', but, as great as it is, it still can't manage to preserve them through a hard-drive wipe :) Hope this adds something and take care, Daniel -- Daniel A. Freedman Laboratory for Atomic and Solid State Physics Department of Physics Cornell University
Storm Linux 2000
Hello, I just got Storm Linux 2000 Debian and I was planning on using it as my server for my website. I was using nothing but Windows before, so I have no clue about how to use this. So I have a couple questions, and all the how-to guides I have read are only telling me stuff that I don’t know how to do. First of all, how do I change the display resolution? I set it to 800x600 during setup, but once I got into the OS it was down to a much lower resolution & I looked all over the settings and there is nothing there that will let me change the display resolution. Second, I set up the special broadcast and gateway IPs and stuff that my ISP gave me for Linux during setup, but again – its not saving it or anything once I got into the OS. So how do I set up my Ethernet card and get it connected to the internet? And my final question is about the apache server that I know is running behind it. I looked all over, and found an apache directory, but I do not see any executable files in it. How do I get the apache server up and running? I need to be able to publish to it from Frontpage 2000 for my website. One more thing, I need to use this Linux machine to share the 2 working IPs that my ISP gave me to my 2 existing Windows 95 and Windows 2000 Professional machines. How do I do that? I am usuing a dsl line through a cisco router. Thanks!!! Anyone knowing anything about any of those things please e-mail me step by step how to do them! I will mention any one who helps on my website when I get it all running again. J Sean [Webmaster] http://www.ufounderground.net/
Re: debian 2.2r3 ?
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:24:58AM +1000, Kevin Easton wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:13:44PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > > > > apt-get update > > > apt-get dist-upgrade > > > > don't you mean apt-get upgrade? It's not a full release of the distro but > > rather just an upgrade to a few packages. (also, from another perspective, > > how ARE you to recognise that we just went from r2 to r3 when the changes > > are merely merged to the potato tree...) > > Subscribe to debian-announce. I have. Looks like the announcement got lost in the 600 msgs I wake up to every morning. Need better colour coding. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *** Jenna has joined the channel. speaking of mental giants.. me, a giant, bullshit And i'm not mental - An IRC session, 20/12/2000
Re: 2.2r3 and pseudo-image
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:48:22PM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote: > I have an iso image of 2.2r2 binary 1, built using the pseudo-image kit. > > Q: Can I loop mount this puppy and use rsync to convert it to 2.2r3 >binary 1? I converted a 2.2r1 image to 2.2r2 by using rsync on the file directly, as if I'd just done "mv pseudo-image binary-i386-1.iso" in the pseudo-image kit's REAME. Rob -- "How to make a million dollars: First, get a million dollars." -- Steve Martin
Re: debian 2.2r3 ?
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:51:02PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > the point releases don't tend to get annouced, or at least right away > since they are really quite boring. That's funny, I got an announcement through the debian-announce mailing list. Rob -- Neglect of duty does not cease, by repetition, to be neglect of duty. -- Napoleon
Re: Unidentified subject!
Or ... find -type d -maxdepth 1 At Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:58:18 -0700 , "Dean A. Roman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Another easy way is to issue the command: > >ls -l | grep "^d" > > >Thanks, >---Dean Roman. > > > >Unknown wrote: > >> What is the best way to get the equivalent of the DOS command >> "dir /ad" in linux? That command will show just the (sub)directories >> and not ordinary files. >> >> I thought that "ls -d" would be the equivalent but it is not. >> >> I know I can do "ls -f | grep /" to get the directory, but putting it >> into a script like this fails because the / does not appear when the >> output of ls is redirected: >> --- >> #!/bin/sh >> if [ ! -z "$1" ] >> then >> WAAR=$1 >> else >> WAAR=. >> fi >> ls -f $WAAR | grep / >> -- >> >> The following script works: >> - >> #!/bin/sh >> if [ ! -z "$1" ] >> then >> WAAR=$1 >> else >> WAAR=. >> fi >> ls -la $WAAR | grep ^d >> - >> >> Is there another way of doing this? >> Johann >> -- >> J.H. Spies - Tel. 082 782 0336. Posbus 4668, Tygervallei 7536 >> "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his >> righteousness; and all these things shall be added >> unto you." Matthew 6:33 >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
ftp to gateway machine
Hi, I have a computer connected to a cable modem, which then connects to a hub with two other computers on it. I use ipchains to share the connection. Connecting to anything external works great. However, if I want to ftp from one of the internal computers to the gateway machine, it takes a long time to connect and then the transfer speeds are pretty slow. I use 192.168.0.1 for eth1of the gateway computer, so that's the address I used for ftp. It appears that even though I use 192.168.0.1, it still connects using my ip address for eth0 (which is connected to the cable modem). I would have expected that going from my laptop (192.168.0.4) to the gateway would be really fast, especially since both ethernet cards are 10/100. Am I misunderstanding something? Any suggestions? Thanks.
Re: Unidentified subject!
Another easy way is to issue the command: ls -l | grep "^d" Thanks, ---Dean Roman. Unknown wrote: > What is the best way to get the equivalent of the DOS command > "dir /ad" in linux? That command will show just the (sub)directories > and not ordinary files. > > I thought that "ls -d" would be the equivalent but it is not. > > I know I can do "ls -f | grep /" to get the directory, but putting it > into a script like this fails because the / does not appear when the > output of ls is redirected: > --- > #!/bin/sh > if [ ! -z "$1" ] > then > WAAR=$1 > else > WAAR=. > fi > ls -f $WAAR | grep / > -- > > The following script works: > - > #!/bin/sh > if [ ! -z "$1" ] > then > WAAR=$1 > else > WAAR=. > fi > ls -la $WAAR | grep ^d > - > > Is there another way of doing this? > Johann > -- > J.H. Spies - Tel. 082 782 0336. Posbus 4668, Tygervallei 7536 > "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his > righteousness; and all these things shall be added > unto you." Matthew 6:33 > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:Roman;Dean x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;-1312 fn:Dean Roman end:vcard
Re: How to partition hard drive?
hiya... I'd combine /boot or where-ever thekernel is kept into / partition - so that if the root partition is okay ..you can always get into single user mode - if /boot is a separate partition, you'd need both root and /boot to be a "good" partition to be bootable ?? i'd also add /tmp to be a separate partition c ya alvin my partition preferences / 64Mbor ( smaller the better ) /tmp128Mb for silly temp files ( i use it for import/export w/ nfs ) /usr2048Mb for /usr stuff /var512Mb or whatever..depending on email and web servers stuff -- stuff above is already back'd up on the initial cdrom... -- things you did to the box /home rest of disk...including /usr/local - backup only /home and /etc and logs if you want those swap...512mb or 2x"real-memry" whichever is less On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, will trillich wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 05:57:44PM +0200, Allan Andersen wrote: > > If it's for personal use I would use something like similar to this: > > > > /boot - 16 MB bootable > > swap - 2 x amount of RAM in the PC > > / - the rest > > that's a great first-install concept. > > how big your partitions are will depend ENTIRELY on what you use > your computer for. graphics leans this way, web server leans that > way, and gamer's paradise is completely different altogether. > there's no set defined best way for all instances. you gotta > figure it out for yourself. > > after you munge and install and remove and configure and add and > download and tweak -- for a month -- you'll finally have things > running the way you like. > > THEN you do a > > du /usr/local > du /var > du /home > du /etc <-- just kidding > du /usr <-- subtract /usr/local, of course > > to find out how much you've used. > > i'd rank each as a PERCENTAGE of the entire disk space, unless > you feel like keeping a large partition at the end in case of > "i'd sure like to break off this subtree" emergency... > > then do > > dpkg --get-selections '*' > ~/installed.packages > > and back up /home and /usr/local, reformat, repartition to > reflect your usage percentages: > > /boot = 10mb or less? > / = % from 'du' above > /home = % from 'du' above > swap= 2 * ram > /var= % from 'du' above > /usr/local = % from 'du' above > /usr= % from 'du' above > > the partitions that are busiest should be in the middle, IMHO. > > now you can restore /usr/local and /home, then reinstall your set > packages with > > dpkg --set-selections < ~/installed.packages >
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
I have a similar problem, but slightly different packages: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libgnomesupport0: Depends: gnome-libs-data (>= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is installed libgnomeui32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (>= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is installed Could anyone explain what is going on? Would apt-get install on the two packages fix things up? When I do it as a trial run it seems to work, though I get a large number of packages it would reconfigure. Is this a bug with anything, or just an inevitable result of trying to put unlike things (ximian and debian) together?
flawed thinking on dist upgrade?
Being a Debian newbie and running Potato2.2r on a PII 350 this is the course of action that I'm thinking of taking to do a upgrade to Woody is it flawed? 1. Do a apt-get install on Adrin Bunk's .deb files 2. Do a apt-get install kernel 2.4.3 image and headers. Question...Once I do the kernel install how do I install the updated ppp that I said no to when I did the Adrin update? 3. Add the deb-src lines from Dave's Debians Doc's at dharris.freeshell.org/linux 4 Do a apt-get update woody. 5. Do a apt-get source woody. 6. Do dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b 7. Comment out the deb-src lines then do a dpkg -i woody.deb I have read lots of posts on this site where people have done a apt-get dist-upgrade and their system has been really messed up. Is my approach hosed ? I have a tough skin so all comment appreciated. Don __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: http://www.debian.org/contact
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:38:59PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Having a problem installing the sound modules; sound.o, uart401.o, > sb.o sb16.o, etc from the slink, v2.1 distribution cd's.. > > Tried dpkg the ALSA binaries but still can't find the drivers > anywhere.. I don't remember what state the sound driver stuff was in for slink, but You should probably consider upgrading to Debian 2.2 (potato), the third revision of which was just released a couple days ago. Sound support is one of those things where Linux is constantly making great strides, so much is bound to have changed since slink. To install ALSA, I have traditionally just downloaded the source for the modules and installed it by hand. I know it's possible to do it within the Debian system, but installing it by hand worked well enough and was easy enough that I never bothered to see how well it worked. ALSA is quite well documented. Have a look at http://www.alsa-project.org/ Note that to build the alsa modules you'll need to either install the full sources for your kernel or at least the kernel-headers package. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpnVwCj3knO3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Looking for keymap to install: NONE
Hello, I get the subject message when I install the console-tools package (I am running unstable). My keyboard is not properly recognized by a few applications (sawfish and xemacs-gtk for example). How do I get a default keymap for a standard us-101 keyboard to install? Thank you, -- Pedro
Re: GPG key not found
on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 02:26:09PM -0800, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:01:52PM +0200, Andre Berger wrote: > > I've uploaded my GPG public key to www.keyserver.net some days ago. The > > key ID is 07182FBC, but you can only get the key as 0x07182FBC, or > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's wrong? How do I keep people from > > besieging me to upload a key to a key server that has already been > > uplaoded? > > keyserver.net uses a fairly new proprietary keyserver, and it very > much appears to not like GnuPG keys. my GPG key is on most keyservers > (the ones using the tried and true free pks) but i think it still does > not appear on keyserver.net (i haven't checked in a few monthes, i had > tried to upload it and it ignored it, so i waited for syncronisation > to occur and it never did). > > my suggestion is use a different keyserver. pgp.ai.mit.edu was my > favorite as it was quite reliable and did not use any of these > proprietary keyservers. but its been down for days. I'm also having problems with the "round-robin" keyserver (I think), wwwkeys.pgp.net. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't (about one in three or four attempts fails), and responses are dog slow. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpUkn5Z1X0LA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel NULL pointer
on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:37:42PM +0200, David Jardine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:20:58PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:38:17AM +0200, David Jardine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > wrote: > > > Following a re-compilation of my kernel (2.0.36) pon is > > > behaving erratically, to say the least. After a reboot > > > it works quite often the first time, less often the > > > second, rarely the third... and once it's failed, it > > > always fails after that. > > > > > > When it fails, it spews out a couple of screenfuls of > > > something too fast to capture and then hangs - sometimes > > > ^C kills it, sometimes ^D, sometimes I have to reboot. > > > > > > The straces of failed and successful connections seem > > > identical (except for pids and times, of course). > > > > > > This is the syslog account (the same every time, I think): > > > > > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer > > > dereference at virtual address c000 > > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = > > > 00101000 > > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: *pde = 00102067 > > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: *pte = > > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: Oops: > > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: CPU:0 > > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kerneld: error: exit: Identifier removed > > > > > > If anyone recognizes the symptoms, I'd be most grateful > > > for pointers in the direction of a solution. > > > > It's a bug ;-) > > Don't kid me. I can bring the stablest of systems crashing > round my ears by sheer stupidity. Meet you and raise you ten. I'd gone through an extremely frustrating three months last spring with 2.2.14 in which sambafs and something else were rendering my system unstable -- crashes every 2-14 days, most indicated with "NULL pointer dereference". Turned out to be a known, but obscure, bug. > Anyway, I'm ashamed to say that I've decided to try potato again. > (Ashamed because of the trouble you took to help me, for which > many thanks.) No, no, no. I'm an arrogant, abuse ass heaping scorn on newbies, remember? > May I ask one more stupid question? I don't understand the exact > connection between kernel versions and distribution versions. There is none. Or at least no strong link. Most Debian distros are released against a set of kernel binaries which have been compiled for the distro. For 2.2 (Potato) this includes several flavors of 2.2, and possibly 2.0 and 2.4, kernels. > I tried to upgrade from slink to potato but found that the one thing I > really needed (jdk) had been replaced by something else (jikes and > kaffe) that I couldn't get working. Will I have problems if I try to > install the stuff from my slink CDs on my potato system? You should be able to backtrack packages so long as you don't get dependency conflicts. Don't have the dope on these particular packages though. I'd look into why these aren't working for you (kaffe, jikes). > Thanks -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpuycf5Rcu4g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Getting winprinter+MIDI+ppp to work under wine
Is it actually possible? On a 99+ % M$-free box I'm talking about the sort of printer drivers that you install using the standard floppies that come with the printer, the one that delightfully instructs you to (1) Insert disk into Drive A: (2) From start, choose settings, blah. It seems that wine doesn't have its own control panel that would let you install winprinter drivers (which aren't executable, so you can't do wine on it). GS obviously won't work. As for MIDI, I'm look for the sort of software support that allows me to transparently play multimedia titles like Encarta 97 (which I have successfully installed) and who knows, an old-fashioned first-person shooter. Timidity of course won't do. As for the ppp, I'm looking to install a freemail (no dialup cost) service which expectedly comes only in a M$ variety. Obviously I need to get ppp working (after I hoepfully figure out some way of installing the software). Or maybe, just how to connect the normal DUN way, and get to browse using Explorer.
Re: jpeg php and gd potato
Hi! I think that you need a third-party library. Check the PHP documentation. regards Marcelo Gulin James Tapping wrote: Hello I have installed apache , php4 and gd everything is ok except that I don't have jpeg support in php. A 'phpinfo' dosen't show the support either. In my php.ini file I have the correct line 'gd.so' etc. Is this a bug? Or have a missed something? Thanks James
Trouble booting Debian on Firewire iBook
Okay... so I've (supposedly) gotten Debian installed on my iBook, and did the voodoo with the bootstrap partition (mkofboot --boot /dev/hda9 -m /target/etc/ofboot.b --root /dev/hda11 --partition 11). When I try to do "boot hd:9" or "boot hd:9, yaboot", though, I get this message: MAC-PARTS: LOAD (noninterposed) not supportedload-size=0 adler32=1 LOAD-SIZE is too small Any idea why this is? Just for reference, here's my partitioning scheme: hda1-8: Apple stuff hda9: Apple_Bootstrap hda10: swap hda11: / hda12: MacOS Thanks! Brian Dunnette
Re: libglide.so.2 error (3dfx)
Hey, sounds like you need to install the glide libs. It's been a while since I've used such outdated versions of 3dfx stuff, but i think something along the linesof 'apt-get install libglide2' should fix that for you... Cameron Matheson On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:07:02PM +0200, Bert Nijkoops wrote: > Hi > > I get an error message: cannot open shared object > file libglide.so.2 ( no such file or directory)..when I try > to run test 3Dfx. > > I have Corel Linux 1.0 and a Voodoo3 2000 vid. card. > > Are you familiar with this problem? > > Thanx > > Bert _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: kernel NULL pointer
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:37:42PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: | | May I ask one more stupid question? I don't understand the | exact connection between kernel versions and distribution | versions. I tried to upgrade from slink to potato but found | that the one thing I really needed (jdk) had been replaced by | something else (jikes and kaffe) that I couldn't get working. | Will I have problems if I try to install the stuff from my | slink CDs on my potato system? I think slink used libc5 which is incompatible with libc6. You would need the libc5 backwards-compatibility package. Why is it that kaffe didn't work for you? You might be able to get the jdk for potato from the blackdown people. I have heard that IBM's jvm is really good. jikes is a a good and fast compiler -- I use it at work. -D
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:48:57PM -0400, - wrote: > >I don't know your parents well enough to comment on the > >bastard part, but if you want to take without giving, that > >pretty much is the textbook definition of selfish. > > What does this wise ass expect someone who knows very little > about Linux to contribute to the Linux community? Isn't > describing the faults in itself a contribution? Who knows the > problems a beginner has better than the beginner? there was nothing unique or particularly insightful from this ranting weenie whose message was "stop what you're doing and write better documents for me, right now". cmopare that with brian's recent "the documentation is sparse, maybe we need to come together and work on this..." > Contrast this guy's attitude with that of others we see on the > list. What is he contributing? the one who issued the textbook definition, helps folks here, a lot. the one who drove him to the smarminess hasn't benefitted anybody, yet (from what i've seen). no new bugs spotted, no new ideas spawned, no new concepts spread, no new joy to share. > Selfishness is also having something shareable and not being > willing to share it. selfishness is the root of all good. i cannot benefit you tomorrow if i do not take pains to ensure my own survival today. i can't help if i'm not here. if i don't take time to keep my clients happy, i'll not be able to afford to spend time at http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/ ... it's in my own best interest to create more than i consume, to operate at a profit -- otherwise, how could i possibly contribute anything to anybody -- and thus it's better for you, too, that i do so. anything good in the human world was created by someone who had the selfish thought "*I* would like it better if..." -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: GPG key not found
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:01:52PM +0200, Andre Berger wrote: > I've uploaded my GPG public key to www.keyserver.net some days ago. The > key ID is 07182FBC, but you can only get the key as 0x07182FBC, or > [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's wrong? How do I keep people from > besieging me to upload a key to a key server that has already been > uplaoded? keyserver.net uses a fairly new proprietary keyserver, and it very much appears to not like GnuPG keys. my GPG key is on most keyservers (the ones using the tried and true free pks) but i think it still does not appear on keyserver.net (i haven't checked in a few monthes, i had tried to upload it and it ignored it, so i waited for syncronisation to occur and it never did). my suggestion is use a different keyserver. pgp.ai.mit.edu was my favorite as it was quite reliable and did not use any of these proprietary keyservers. but its been down for days. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp6OTsW0NCrz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: floppy permissions
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:06:33AM -0700, JC Portlock wrote: > Hello all. > > New subscriber to the list and have the following situation. > > Running a potato box. > > I wanted to save a document created in StarOffice to /mnt/floppy/ but it told > me I didn't have the right perms. As user, I am already added to the group > 'floppy'. So I checked the perms and found I didn't have write privs. Went > to chmod to correct the situation and had these results: > > YOU ARE ROOT!! on jchammin > /mnt pts/4> chmod 777 floppy > YOU ARE ROOT!! on jchammin > /mnt pts/4> ls -al > total 17 > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 Jan 15 21:45 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 1024 Jan 20 11:01 ../ > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 7168 Dec 31 1969 floppy/ > drwxrwxrwx 60 root root 8192 Dec 31 1969 windoz/ i don't understand why the chmod made `windoz' world writable instead of floppy... unless it already was and your point is that chmod is not working on floppy. is a msdos filesystem mounted on floppy/ ? if so that is why. msdos does not have any concept of file permissions, you cannot change the faked ones the kernel enforces with chmod. instead you need to do: mount -t msdos -o uid=1000,noexec /dev/fd0 /floppy which will cause all files on the msdos filesystem to be owned by uid 1000 (most likely you, do a `getent passwd yourusername' to see what your uid is) note that changing permissions on the mountpoint directory when nothing is mounted does nothing but open security holes. permissions on the mountpoint have no effect on any filesystem mounted on top. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpN6gLUSLUSi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian 2.2r3 ?
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:22:16PM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > I track unstable/sid and also routinely do "apt-get upgrade" with no > apparent problems. Every once in a while, I'll answer 'no' to doing the > upgrade and then do a "apt-get -u dist-upgrade" and will have the exact > same packages to be updated. Other times it will want to update > different ones. > > I must admit that I'm confused... is there much reason to do "upgrade" > vs "dist-upgrade". I get the idea I should start using the latter just > about all the time. i don't see any point to using upgrade instead of dist-upgrade. > So that's why "dist-upgrade" sometimes want to add new packages that I > either don't want or don't currently have installed, right ?? I suppose > I could make a note of these packages and then remove them right after > it's finished. see the man page on a description of what dist-upgrade does. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgphcWRnjNf4l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Postfix | Upgrade: Nobody?
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:17:10PM +0200, Willi Dyck wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 04:40:19PM +0200, Willi Dyck wrote: > > Nobody here, who can point me into the right direction? i did not have any problem upgrading 4 machines to r3 all running postfix, but here is my guess: is /usr/sbin/postdrop setgid postdrop? [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ ls -l /usr/sbin/postdrop -r-xr-sr-x1 root postdrop66140 Dec 5 13:50 /usr/sbin/postdrop and is /etc/postfix-script a symlink to /etc/postfix-script-sgid ? and are the permissions of /var/spool/postfix as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ ls -ld /var/spool/postfix/ drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Apr 16 19:45 /var/spool/postfix/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ ls -l /var/spool/postfix/ total 56 drwx--2 postfix root 4096 Apr 17 06:27 active drwx--2 postfix root 4096 Apr 10 03:02 bounce drwx--2 postfix root 4096 Mar 15 2000 corrupt drwx-- 18 postfix root 4096 Mar 15 2000 defer drwx--2 postfix root 4096 Mar 27 14:40 deferred drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Mar 15 2000 etc drwx--2 postfix root 4096 Apr 17 06:27 incoming drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 16 19:51 lib drwx-wx--T2 postfix postdrop 4096 Apr 17 06:27 maildrop drwxr-xr-x2 postfix root 4096 Apr 6 2000 pid drwx--2 postfix root 4096 Apr 16 19:51 private drwxr-xr-x2 postfix root 4096 Apr 16 19:51 public drwx--2 postfix root 4096 Mar 15 2000 saved drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Mar 15 2000 usr [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpXkjU33Z2Y9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to partition hard drive?
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 05:57:44PM +0200, Allan Andersen wrote: > If it's for personal use I would use something like similar to this: > > /boot - 16 MB bootable > swap - 2 x amount of RAM in the PC > / - the rest that's a great first-install concept. how big your partitions are will depend ENTIRELY on what you use your computer for. graphics leans this way, web server leans that way, and gamer's paradise is completely different altogether. there's no set defined best way for all instances. you gotta figure it out for yourself. after you munge and install and remove and configure and add and download and tweak -- for a month -- you'll finally have things running the way you like. THEN you do a du /usr/local du /var du /home du /etc <-- just kidding du /usr <-- subtract /usr/local, of course to find out how much you've used. i'd rank each as a PERCENTAGE of the entire disk space, unless you feel like keeping a large partition at the end in case of "i'd sure like to break off this subtree" emergency... then do dpkg --get-selections '*' > ~/installed.packages and back up /home and /usr/local, reformat, repartition to reflect your usage percentages: /boot = 10mb or less? / = % from 'du' above /home = % from 'du' above swap= 2 * ram /var= % from 'du' above /usr/local = % from 'du' above /usr= % from 'du' above the partitions that are busiest should be in the middle, IMHO. now you can restore /usr/local and /home, then reinstall your set packages with dpkg --set-selections < ~/installed.packages -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: Postfix | Upgrade
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:24:22PM +0200, Willi Dyck wrote: > > Did I get that right, if it's set, postfix stops delivary? > Why is this bit set then? And more, why does it work on an other box I know? no that is wrong, the sticky bit is set for the same reason its set on /tmp and /var/tmp. removing it adds a security hole. > That doesn't work. As soon as the "r" bit is set on "other" > postfix/postdrop denies permission on that folder. At least on my box. > ...strange... the problem is most likely that /usr/sbin/postdrop is not setgid postdrop. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpHqrcp6gVaF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: domain name: internet vs. intra-net
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:19:40PM -0500, will trillich wrote: > and can you give an example or two on how to use /etc/bind/* to > set that up? (all my attempts give dlint conniptions, though > things seem to work-though-they-wobble, with exceptions.) (This had better not be a sly attempt to collect a new newbiedoc...) I have recently inherited a network which was set up with company.com as the official, registered external domain name and company.net for the internal systems. It is not pleasant and even somewhat confusing. (There are other poor practices in place which make it worse, such as foo.company.com and foo.company.net sometimes being the same machine and sometimes not, depending on which machine you're on at the time, but I digress...) I am now in the process of migrating the internal network from company.net to east.company.com and west.company.com. (Yes, it spans two buildings. Without subnets. (Yet.)) I'm finding it _much_ easier to keep things straight with the new names. What sorts of complaints is dlint giving you? So far, I've been keeping everything on one name server with separate zone files for everything and it doesn't bother BIND at all. (I'm having some odd routing problems, but that doesn't have anything to do with DNS...) -- That's not gibberish... It's Linux. - Byers, The Lone Gunmen Geek Code 3.1: GCS d? s+: a- C++ UL++$ P++>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r y+
Euro in spanish keyboard
I have got to get the euro simbol on console, but it doesn work on the xterm neither on other programs like netscape, Where can I find some instalation instructions?? Thank you for all, Angel
Re: named/bind vs. /etc/hosts.deny -- can't verify hostname
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:50:17PM -0500, Rich Puhek wrote: > Will, > > A few questions, mostly to ask yourself, that may help you find what's > going on. > > Why mess with bind on the internal machines? Why not just populate > /etc/hosts and be done with it? will that help win.* and mac.* machines use dns? on the mac i should be able to ping (via mac software, of course) "win" or "duo" and have it work just like on a linux command line. > Regardless, which machines are entered into /etc/hosts on duo? okay, fine. thakyouVERYmuch for pointing out how dweebie i'm being. thanks! :) > Does an nslookup or a dig against the DNS server jive with the /etc/bind > files? it did. apparently dns and dig use the same resources; the /etc/hosts file is some arbitrary "we'll use it when we damn well feel like it" sort of thing. ? > Shouldn't you have a "$ORIGIN lan." in your first file (after the "@" > sections)? isn't that assumed? or provided for by the named.conf file? > How does your machine show up in the logfiles? (something like "telnetd > ... connect from mac (192.168.1.100)" or "...connect from mac.lan. > (208..."? the conflict was DNS (/etc/bind/*) vs /etc/hosts ... heh. thanks much! -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: FW: OT : GUI Interfaces
[Blackbox] > That begs the question. How then do I jump to the terminal if it's > behind a number of open windows? Use the Blackbox toolbar or keyboard shortcuts (-> bbkeys). Ciao, Mark Weinem
Re: GUI Interfaces
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, csj wrote: > Take Blackbox (a favorite from the > posts I have read). To open a new app you have to click at the > desktop (or is there some abstruse keyboard shortcut?) to bring up > the app-ropriate menu It's not possible to use the Blackbox menus via keyboard > The problem: how do you click at the desktop > when you have a maximized app filling the screen? Just shade the app window and click at the desktop (or move the windows)! Maximized applications don't fill the whole Blackbox screen - only manually oversized application windows do. You can also use keyboard shortcuts to start applications (if you install bbkeys). [about MS-Windows taskbar] > Here's one problem the Windows folks have solved pretty well. It looks soo ugly, is out of use most of the time, and you cannot stick the menus. Ciao, Mark Weinem
Re: kernel NULL pointer
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:20:58PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:38:17AM +0200, David Jardine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > Following a re-compilation of my kernel (2.0.36) pon is > > behaving erratically, to say the least. After a reboot > > it works quite often the first time, less often the > > second, rarely the third... and once it's failed, it > > always fails after that. > > > > When it fails, it spews out a couple of screenfuls of > > something too fast to capture and then hangs - sometimes > > ^C kills it, sometimes ^D, sometimes I have to reboot. > > > > The straces of failed and successful connections seem > > identical (except for pids and times, of course). > > > > This is the syslog account (the same every time, I think): > > > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer > > dereference at virtual address c000 > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000 > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: *pde = 00102067 > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: *pte = > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: Oops: > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: CPU:0 > > Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kerneld: error: exit: Identifier removed > > > > If anyone recognizes the symptoms, I'd be most grateful > > for pointers in the direction of a solution. > > It's a bug ;-) Don't kid me. I can bring the stablest of systems crashing round my ears by sheer stupidity. Anyway, I'm ashamed to say that I've decided to try potato again. (Ashamed because of the trouble you took to help me, for which many thanks.) May I ask one more stupid question? I don't understand the exact connection between kernel versions and distribution versions. I tried to upgrade from slink to potato but found that the one thing I really needed (jdk) had been replaced by something else (jikes and kaffe) that I couldn't get working. Will I have problems if I try to install the stuff from my slink CDs on my potato system? Thanks > > Sounds like you're getting a few oopses before the system dies entirely. > > You'll want to roll through your kernel and debug logs to see what else > is going, as well as capture some additional information. There's a > guide to reporting kernel-level information in > /usr/src/linux/REPORTING-BUGS. I've converted this to a self-generating > report as a shell script, attached. > > You're going to want a couple of utilities on your search path which may > not be there, ksymoops is the biggie. Note also that you can grab > kernel debugging info from several places. If the system locks or > crashes immediately after the event, /var/log/kern.log is going to do > you more good than dmesg, which is regenerated on boot and won't have > much interesting data in it. > > If you can get this to trigger automatically (say, with swatch -- don't > ask me, I haven't done this but think it can be done), you might > actually catch system state following one of the oopses. > > Hunting through Google or newsgroup archives is probably a good attack > strategy. > > Cheers. > > -- > Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ > What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal > http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org > #!/bin/bash > > # Kernel bug report generator script > # Script generated from prior bug report form by Karsten M. Self > # $Revision: 1.3 $ $Date: 2000/05/13 07:48:36 $ $Author: root $ > > > # > # [Some of this is taken from Frohwalt Egerer's original linux-kernel FAQ] > # > # What follows is a suggested procedure for reporting Linux bugs. You > # aren't obliged to use the bug reporting format, it is provided as a guide > # to the kind of information that can be useful to developers - no more. > # > # If the failure includes an "OOPS:" type message in your log or on > # screen please read "Documentation/oops-tracing.txt" before posting your > # bug report. This explains what you should do with the "Oops" information > # to make it useful to the recipient. > # > # Send the output the maintainer of the kernel area that seems to > # be involved with the problem. Don't worry too much about getting the > # wrong person. If you are unsure send it to the person responsible for the > # code relevant to what you were doing. If it occurs repeatably try and > # describe how to recreate it. That is worth even more than the oops itself. > # The list of maintainers is in the MAINTAINERS file in this directory. > # > # If you are totally stumped as to whom to send the report, send it to > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] (For more information on the linux-kernel > # mailing list see http://www.tux.org/lkml/). > # > # This is a suggested format for a bug report sent to the Linux kernel > mailing > # list. Having a standardized bug report form makes it easier for you n
Re: GPG key not found
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:01:52PM +0200, Andre Berger wrote: | I've uploaded my GPG public key to www.keyserver.net some days ago. The | key ID is 07182FBC, but you can only get the key as 0x07182FBC, or | [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's wrong? How do I keep people from | besieging me to upload a key to a key server that has already been | uplaoded? In several environemnts (C, Java, Python, etc) numerical literals beginning with '0' are interpreted as octal numbers while numeric literals beginning with '0x' are hexadecimal. The number, as first shown, in octal is not valid (only digits 0..7 allows). The second case looks like hex to me. I would recommend giving people the explicitly hexadecimal version, or maybe convert it to a different base (decimal, octal, whatever). As decimal that ID is 119025596. I don't really know anything about the key itself and how those mechanisms work. HTH, -D
Re: The Heart Is An Open Source: A Romance
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Sherohman) writes: I can remember when smail was the *default* -- that cured me of using debian defaults! Interesting story. > > Actually, given all the Debian-centric info on BIND, I was kind of surprised > that he wasn't running Debian's default MTA: exim. (OTOH, exim's handling > of aliases and virtual domains is a lot simpler than sendmail's (oh, hell - > damn near _anything_ is simpler than configuring sendmail), so the story > would've lost at least 30-40 lines of explanations if exim was used.) > -- * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 *
Re: Postfix | Upgrade
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:04:01PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Not that I know postfix... Me too... > This is sticy bit. Some mailer usethis as locking mechanism. (I had > similar problem with q-mail). Setting this bit like yours lock mailbox > and stops delivary. So I guess you change this from 1750 to 750 than > problem is gone. Did I get that right, if it's set, postfix stops delivary? Why is this bit set then? And more, why does it work on an other box I know? > # chmod 750 maildrop > > I do not know it works or not but why not try That doesn't work. As soon as the "r" bit is set on "other" postfix/postdrop denies permission on that folder. At least on my box. ...strange... -- ...is a registered (#210445) user of:Debian 2.2r3 GNU/Linux icq# 49564994###AIM: wdyck###GnuPG-Key: 1024D/8BFCA69B Fingerprint: DAD2 E564 B725 E6A3 5A0F 1497 4411 F30F 8BFC A69B pgpHXbXrtQbfJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim?
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:01:27 +0600, "V.Suresh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Now, with exim, I run 'runq -v', and all exim says is a pid number, and exits. >How do I make exim more verbose, and I want to actually see the mail transfer >over my console. Help. exim -v -q Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: Problems with 8139too driver in kernel 2.4.2
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:06:23 +0200, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >2.2.19 hat beide Treiber, und für 2.4.3 gibt es auf Sourceforge einen >noch neueren. Ich habe das Problem, dass eine ältere 8139-basierende >Karte zwar erkannt, aber nicht korrekt initialisiert wird (kein link >beat). Sorry, didn't mean to post that to the list. I need to wear a paper bag for some time. What I wrote is: 2.2.19 has both rtl8139 and 8139too, and sourceforge has a even later 8139too for 2.4.3 which fixes an initializing problem occuring on an older 8139-based card with the 8139 too from stock 2.4.3. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: The Heart Is An Open Source: A Romance
Hey, Just wanted to let you know that postfix is the greatest thing that ever hap- pened to mail. Setup was incredibly easy (i wasn't good enough to get send- mail working on my server), but postfix was up and *working* in five minutes, without even reading any doc (which could be a bad thing...) Oh yeah, could someone send me a copy of that letter, it seems that i accidentally deleted it before getting a chance to read... Cameron Matheson On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:10:16PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Damon Muller wrote: > > > I've got to say, this is the first 100+ line message I've read on the > > list for ages, and it was worth every prescious second! > > > > We *are* amused :) > > > Thanks. When I'm trying to avoid real work, I can get very inspired. > > > > > > > Although a real man would have been running qmail and courier-imap... > > > > > > Actually, that's a valid question. Sendmail, for better or worse, is the > industry standard. Sendmail knowledge has come in quite handy for me on > Solaris etc. Of course it is crufty beyond compare and it remains to be > seen how long they can keep patching up its' basically flawed design but > for now it remains one of the workhorses of the Internet. > > > qmail on the other hand, I've only seen used on Linux and FreeBSD. Also I > don't quite get the point of maildirs. Yes they're supposed to be > "better" but I've not really seen any difference in real life. Plus there > are the annoying license restrictions. One of these days I'll take a good > look at postfix, it seems to be as secure and well-designed but plays more > nicely with others than qmail. Exim, for some reason I've always thought > of as a toy. But my information is probably years out of date. > > > btw, I wish to call to the attention of the readers a little omission in > my story. You also have to add the new domain to /etc/mail/relay-domains. > In the bad old days, sendmail let any mail go through by default thus > allowing spammers unlimited access. Now it does the opposite. It will > refuse to deliver mail that comes from any domain except those listed in > this file. > > > -- > Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
libglide.so.2 error (3dfx)
Hi I get an error message: cannot open shared object file libglide.so.2 ( no such file or directory)..when I try to run test 3Dfx. I have Corel Linux 1.0 and a Voodoo3 2000 vid. card. Are you familiar with this problem? Thanx Bert
Re: Gnome taskbar
Hey, the "desktop map" and the taskbar are actually two different applets. What you need to use these, is to right click on the panel, go to applets, and then add the taskbar applet, and the gnome-pager applet (those names might be wrong, but they are at least similar). Then they'll load automatically after that. Cameron Matheson On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:13:48PM +0200, Duser wrote: > New questino from The Newbye: > how do I start up the gnome taskbar (you know, the one with applets > and a menu and the desktops map...) after I have initialized X? > Well to tell the truth i need some background on how Gnome works, > where can I start? > Goodbye and thanx for all the answer, past present and future. > > Michele > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: ftp security question
hi ya rob my wild guesses... i assume you removed "real" from /etc/ftpaccess you need change the shell to /bin/false in /etc/passwd for ftp c ya alvin On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Rob Zietlow wrote: > I have disabled anon. login for ftp. When I try to log into ftp using the > username ftp it says guest ok. But it will deny the user. My question is > how do I disable this? There is no ftp user in /etc/shadow /etc/passwd. > The only user named ftp is /etc/ftpusers which is the file that lists people > who are disabled. I take ftp out of this file and I still get the same > thing. guest login ok but I cannot actually login. How do I remedy this? > > Rob > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: named/bind vs. /etc/hosts.deny -- can't verify hostname
Will, A few questions, mostly to ask yourself, that may help you find what's going on. Why mess with bind on the internal machines? Why not just populate /etc/hosts and be done with it? Regardless, which machines are entered into /etc/hosts on duo? Does an nslookup or a dig against the DNS server jive with the /etc/bind files? Shouldn't you have a "$ORIGIN lan." in your first file (after the "@" sections)? How does your machine show up in the logfiles? (something like "telnetd ... connect from mac (192.168.1.100)" or "...connect from mac.lan. (208..."? --Rich will trillich wrote: > > Apr 17 14:58:33 duo xinetd[325]: warning: /etc/hosts.deny, line 15: can't > verify hostname: gethostbyname(kat.lan) failed > > aaugh! > > my wife's machine is windo~1 98 at 192.168.1.200; my machine is a > mac os 8.1 at 192.168.1.100. i have no trouble connecting via ftp > (or ssh or http) but she's bounced out with the > > xinetd[325]: warning: /etc/hosts.deny, line 15: > can't verify hostname: gethostbyname(kat.lan) failed > > we both have the same nameserver setup (name server is debian potato at > 192.168.1.1) ... what do i need to look for? here are the /etc/bind/lan* files > that pertain: > > ; > ; *.LAN bind/named/dns > ; > $TTL 2W > @ IN SOA lan. root.lan. ( > 200104171 ; Serial > 8H ; Refresh > 2H ; Retry > 1W ; Expire > 1D ); Default TTL > ; > @ NS ns > A 192.168.1.1 > ns A 192.168.1.1 > duo A 192.168.1.2 > mac A 192.168.1.100 > kat A 192.168.1.200 > > and here's the reverse-lookup file to match: > > ; > ; *.LAN reverse lookup bind/named/dns > ; (1.168.192.in-addr.arpa) > ; > $TTL 2W > @ IN SOA lan. root.lan. ( > 200104173 ; Serial > 8H ; Refresh > 2H ; Retry > 1W ; Expire > 1D ); Default TTL > @ NS ns.lan. > @ PTR lan. > ; > 1 IN PTR ns.lan. > ; > 2 IN PTR duo.lan. > 100 IN PTR mac.lan. > 200 IN PTR kat.lan. > > duo.lan is a secondary debian server, and she can't get in from 192.168.1.200 > because of a gripe against /etc/hosts.deny, which contains > > ALL: PARANOID > > but i can get in from 192.168.1.100 with no trouble. what gives? > > -- > don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. > http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! > http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us! > -- _ Rich Puhek ETN Systems Inc. _
RE: Gnome taskbar
Hi Michele! On 17-Apr-2001 Duser wrote: > New questino from The Newbye: > how do I start up the gnome taskbar (you know, the one with applets > and a menu and the desktops map...) after I have initialized X? > Well to tell the truth i need some background on how Gnome works, > where can I start? Type at your console "startx -exec "your_windowmananger"" (i. e. sawfish, blackbox,). Or you may type "gdm" (the gnome display manager). This is a graphical loginprompt (must have installed the programm). The command to rum the taskbar ist "panel" (type in at xterm when X is started). When you want to start with gdm after every systemstart you should copy gdm to /etc/init.d/ and symlink it to /etc/rc3.d/ (i. e. /etc/rc3.d/s99gdm). Ciao...Thomas --- Diese Mail wurde mit XFMail unter Debian 2.2 erstellt
Re: setting up VNC server on Linux
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:20:51PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:34:30PM -0600, Cameron Matheson ([EMAIL > PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Oh yeah, is ssh going to be fixed anytime soon? > > According to posts, I believe so. > > BTW, you shouldn't run VNC unsecured on an open network. You're going > to want SSH no matter what. so, who's written the newbiedoc-intro on "how to connect using ssh and then piggyback anything-you-fancy on top of that" including X, ftp, time, and (horrors!) telnet...? -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: CMI8738 audio
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:15:53AM -0300, Debian User wrote: > > My hardware is (from lspci): > > ASUS MB with VIA Apollo PRO133x (VT82C693A/694x) Host Bridge > VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP PCI Bridge > Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10) I'm trying to get the identical sound controller working under 2.2.18. I've built in the module code that came with the hardware, but it's still not working. I get "cmpci: DMA timed out??" errors in the syslog. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please reboot for changes to take effect." Yeah...right... 1:00am up 44 days, Linux 2.2.12
Re: Debian 2.2r2 on Compaq Proliant ML 350?
Antti Hermunen wrote: > > Hi, > I have to confess to being rather new. > > I've been trying to install 2.2 onto a ProLiant ML 350 with a > SmartArray 431 with little success. The install guide pointed to the > "compact" flavour which should work with "Compaq's SMART2 RAID > controllers." which I hoped would also include the RAID controller in > the ML350. Not so :-) > > I've checked the situation and the SmartArray 431 is supported under > RedHAT 6.2 and 7 with cpqarray from Compaq itself > (opensource.compaq.com). > > I scoured the mailing lists and one person had tried to install Debian > onto an ML350 but hadn't reported with success/failure. > > My question is whether I can somehow make all that RedHat stuff work > with the Debian installation CD's or if I have to create a custom > kernel (if so, how?) > > If you reply please cc me so that I don't miss anything (high traffic > etc.) I will summarize to the list. > > Thanks in advance, > -- > Antti Hermunen > IT Manager > Tel. +358-9-415 41124 / Mob. +358-40-550 4376 / Fax. +358-9-415 41122 > Contra - integrated creative services There have been several postings about installing on Compaq's with Smart Array controllers - try searching the mailing list archives for Compaq or Smart. Sorry - can't remember the details.
Re: 2.2r3 and pseudo-image
> "Nathan" == Nathan E Norman writes:
Nathan> On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:48:22PM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote:
>> Feel free to point me at a FM to R.
>>
>> I have an iso image of 2.2r2 binary 1, built using the pseudo-image
>> kit.
>>
>> Q: Can I loop mount this puppy and use rsync to convert it to 2.2r3
>> binary 1?
[snip]
> Since you've already got the image, I don't think you need to
> mount it at all. Substitute your iso image for the output of
> the pseudo-image kit and let rsync do it's best.
I tried this a while ago, trying to convert 2.2 i386 binary disc 2 to
2.2r2. It worked okay, but I ended up pulling almost 125 MB from the
rsync server, so I don't think I'll do it again.
It takes longer to do the full pseudo-image pull, but it's much kinder
to the network.
(Admittedly, I was going from 2.2 -> 2.2r2. I doubt that 2.2r2 ->
2.2r3 would be so big. In fact, I think I'll try it as soon as a
close mirror has got it.)
-Ansel
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Re: floppy permissions
Just using a bit of bandwidth to let y'all know I fixed my own prob. I had the appropriate line in /etc/fstab rem'd out. But thanx all the same. -- 73, JC Portlock KE6UME [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 14481033 === Professionals built the Titanic, but Amateurs built the Ark. === Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
Re: domain name: internet vs. intra-net
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:24:00AM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 03:17:00AM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> > at the risk of exposing another 'religious' issue--
> >
> > let's say you have a static IP 12.34.56.78 and a public domain
> > name 'mydomain.org' attached to it.
> >
> > now you add a private internal lan using 192.168.*.* so your
> > spouse and kids can surf for bomb recipes and porn...
> >
> > what kind of naming setup do you use for the intRAnet? something
> > totally different from the public access point ("timmy.my.lan"
> > for example) or do you branch off the original public name
> > ("timmy.private.mydomain.org" for example)?
> >
> > ...and explain your rationale. thanks!
>
> Think DNS. It doesn't matter what you call your boxen as long as
> DNS information doesn't propagate upstream from your name server.
> The only name(s) you want to publish to the world is the name of
> your public access point.
i've got DNS running. i highly recommend it. everybody ought to
run their own. it's not just a good idea,
my question is,
www.debian-o-rama.tld
is a hypothetical, publicly-available server address, which also
acts as a firewall for my home lan.
within the home lan i've got
192.168.1.1 -> eth1 (where eth0 serves the public above)
192.168.1.2 -> another debian monster
192.168.1.100 -> mac
192.168.1.200 -> win98
would it be good to use DNS/NAMED/BIND to treat the intra-lan
portion as
internal.debian-o-rama.tld = 192.168.1.1
monster.debian-o-rama.tld = 192.168.1.2
mac.debian-o-rama.tld = 192.168.1.100
win.debian-o-rama.tld = 192.168.1.200
or is it preferable to create a whole separate name space for the
lan items, such as
internal.mylan = 192.168.1.1
monster.mylan = 192.168.1.2
mac.mylan = 192.168.1.100
win.mylan = 192.168.1.200
and can you give an example or two on how to use /etc/bind/* to
set that up? (all my attempts give dlint conniptions, though
things seem to work-though-they-wobble, with exceptions.)
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named/bind vs. /etc/hosts.deny -- can't verify hostname
Apr 17 14:58:33 duo xinetd[325]: warning: /etc/hosts.deny, line 15: can't verify hostname: gethostbyname(kat.lan) failed aaugh! my wife's machine is windo~1 98 at 192.168.1.200; my machine is a mac os 8.1 at 192.168.1.100. i have no trouble connecting via ftp (or ssh or http) but she's bounced out with the xinetd[325]: warning: /etc/hosts.deny, line 15: can't verify hostname: gethostbyname(kat.lan) failed we both have the same nameserver setup (name server is debian potato at 192.168.1.1) ... what do i need to look for? here are the /etc/bind/lan* files that pertain: ; ; *.LAN bind/named/dns ; $TTL 2W @ IN SOA lan. root.lan. ( 200104171 ; Serial 8H ; Refresh 2H ; Retry 1W ; Expire 1D ); Default TTL ; @ NS ns A 192.168.1.1 ns A 192.168.1.1 duo A 192.168.1.2 mac A 192.168.1.100 kat A 192.168.1.200 and here's the reverse-lookup file to match: ; ; *.LAN reverse lookup bind/named/dns ; (1.168.192.in-addr.arpa) ; $TTL 2W @ IN SOA lan. root.lan. ( 200104173 ; Serial 8H ; Refresh 2H ; Retry 1W ; Expire 1D ); Default TTL @ NS ns.lan. @ PTR lan. ; 1 IN PTR ns.lan. ; 2 IN PTR duo.lan. 100 IN PTR mac.lan. 200 IN PTR kat.lan. duo.lan is a secondary debian server, and she can't get in from 192.168.1.200 because of a gripe against /etc/hosts.deny, which contains ALL: PARANOID but i can get in from 192.168.1.100 with no trouble. what gives? -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
GPG key not found
I've uploaded my GPG public key to www.keyserver.net some days ago. The key ID is 07182FBC, but you can only get the key as 0x07182FBC, or [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's wrong? How do I keep people from besieging me to upload a key to a key server that has already been uplaoded? Andre Berger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apm question: shutdown instead of user suspend
Hello What you can do is add the following line to your /etc/lilo.conf append="apm=on" then run /sbin/lilo After that it should power down when you shutdown your computer. /Fredrik - Original Message - From: "Martin Würtele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian user list" Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: apm question: shutdown instead of user suspend : hi, : : i'd like to change user suspend into shutdown so my notebook powers down : when i close it. i haven't found any useful information so far :-( : : any ideas? : : tia martin : -- : | /"\ ASCII RIBBON | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | .''`. | : | \ / CAMPAIGN AGAINST | work: http://www.factline.com | : :' : | : | X HTML MAIL| gpg-key: 30DC 1D28 1D79 32F5 5E67 | `. `' | : | / \ AND POSTINGS | 3ABB 28EE B35A 3E8D CCC0 | `- | : : : -- : To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :
Re: 2.4.3 + X 4.0.2 + star office = dead box
"Gerd Bürger" wrote: > > Hi, > > >Try running an xosview and watching your usage creep up. If you're > >really desperate to use StarOffice, try adding an extra swapfile as > >described in mkswap(8) and swapon(8). > > Same problem for me. I only have 8Mb memory and 30Mb swap. vmstat > shows the swapping (very!) slowly increasing, with heavy disk > activity. > > X applications run relatively fast, so it seems to come from > StarOffice. staroffice starts slowly on any machine, I have 1GHz pentium and 128MB RAM and it still takes much longer to start staroffice then all other apps (only netscape comes close). I think it's because of disk traffic, I use gkrellm to watch the swap, disks, load and cpu load does not go very high, it's mostly the disk, sometime swap (depending on how much memory was already used). kernel 2.4.2 (I think) has some VM problems, it is encouraged to use -ac patch (at least 18?), I had some problems - when netscape is running for a long time it takes up almost all the memory, when I start something memory intensive at that point the load on machine goes high (1000% and the mouse pointer is almost not moving, the window do not change fucos in an HOUR or more!), the machine is basically unusable (not sure if it would come back to its senses, I never waited more then few hours). But I guess this was fixed in 2.4.3 erik
Re: Postfix | Upgrade
Not that I know postfix... On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 04:40:19PM +0200, Willi Dyck wrote: > drwx-wx--T2 postfix postdrop 1024 Apr 17 11:59 maildrop > ^ > What's this Flag by the way? This is sticy bit. Some mailer usethis as locking mechanism. (I had similar problem with q-mail). Setting this bit like yours lock mailbox and stops delivary. So I guess you change this from 1750 to 750 than problem is gone. # chmod 750 maildrop I do not know it works or not but why not try -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + For my debian quick-reference, peek into: + + http://www.aokiconsulting.com/quick/ +
Re: Need help with apt and offline computer
Preben Randhol wrote:
> I have tried to follow the description in /usr/doc/apt/offline.text.gz,
> but I cannot get it to work.
>
> What I do:
>
>I take the status file from my offline computer to my online and then
>I do what the description says about setting the APT_CONFIG variable
>and my apt.conf is identical to the one in the doc. I then run
>apt-get update and apt-get upgrade or apt-get install
>task-helix-gnome or some other package.
>
>I take with me the whole disc directory home and unpack it on my
>computer. Then I do what it says but if I try apt-get upgrade it
>says that it is going to install a lot of files, but when I press y
>it just stops nothing happens. Other times it wants to download
>eventhough I have the --no-download. So I always end up doing a lot
>of dpkg -i -E *, dpkg --pending --configure, dpkg -r ... until all is
>in place.
>
>I also try the second aproach where one define where the archive is,
>but apt-get only says it cannot find the package...
>
> Is there somebody out there who has a working way of using apt-get on
> both machines so that I can get this process less painful?
>
> I'm using Debian testing on both machines now with some packages from
> unstable:
>gnat
>gvd (great debugger!!)
>ligtkada1-{art|dev|gnome|glade|gl}
>
> mainly.
>
I prefer the third approach = )
I think the procedure is well explained in the doc file, so i encourage you to
try. The only advice i can give you is, if apt exit with an error about a
"missing partial directory", create it yourself where you keep the downloaded
packages...
Andrea
Re: insmod at boot
giovanni sartoni wrote: > Hi everybody > > I just solved my troubles with my winmodem and got it working > under linux. What it got is installing the linux driver: > > >insmod -f pctel_pci.o > > this is then de-installed when I shutdown and I must repeat it > every time I reboot. > If I understand correctly a way to automate this is to put it > in a script and install the script with > >update-rc > > Is there any alternate way? You could put it in /etc/modules... > # > Second, I created a node to the new modem device with > >mknod /dev/pctel > > and made the /dev/pctel file writable to every user > but the "a+rw" seems to disappear at every reboot, > is it true? How to over come it? > Don't know if this is the right thing to do, but you could change ownership of the dev file (chown root.modem /dev/pctel) and add you to the modem group (addgroup your_username modem, this should be ritght sintax, for any problem try man addgroup)... Anyway, are you using an external modem plugged to a serial port? Andrea
apm question: shutdown instead of user suspend
hi, i'd like to change user suspend into shutdown so my notebook powers down when i close it. i haven't found any useful information so far :-( any ideas? tia martin -- | /"\ ASCII RIBBON | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | .''`. | | \ / CAMPAIGN AGAINST | work: http://www.factline.com | : :' : | | X HTML MAIL| gpg-key: 30DC 1D28 1D79 32F5 5E67 | `. `' | | / \ AND POSTINGS | 3ABB 28EE B35A 3E8D CCC0 | `- |
Re: The Heart Is An Open Source: A Romance
> > This is a HOOT! Send it to Slashdot or Linux.com; it needs to be published. > > /. ? Better send it to debianplanet.org... > > I'm afraid we can't do that. As you know we at Debian take copyright very seriously so I did a google search on the author and only came up with this: JALDHAR H. Vyas Pen name of Marguerite Gumbey, English writer [1895-1992]. Born to a genteel yet impoverished junior branch of the Hapsburg family, Marguerite Gumbey lived a quiet, undistinguished life until World War II when while flying bomber missions for the R.A.F., she wrote the first draft of her magnum opus, "The Heart Is An Open Source." Lambasted by the critics, the book suffered near disaster when the publisher tried to force the title to be changed to "The Heart Is Free (As In Speech, Not Beer) And Has No Affiliation With The Open Source Movement Which I Detest For Its' Insufficent Promotion Of The Idea Of Freedom." But it overcame such difficulties and became much beloved by readers, sending it to the top of the bestseller charts on all continents. (fifteen years later, the Klingon translation would acheive the same feat.) Although they never reached quite so dizzying heights, her later books such as 1964's "The Cathedral And The Boudoir", the 1965 short story collection, "Tales Of Lust, Treachery, And Emacs", and 1971's "Valley Of The Penguins", were also popular though not without controversy. For instance 1973's "RFC 4917: A Decongestion Algorithm For Symmetric Digital Subscriber Lines" was banned in Australia and New Zealand for its' explicit sexuality. In her final years, Marguerite retired to a Carmelite convent in Shropshire where she remained until her untimely death at 97 in a freak toner cartridge replacement accident. So you see without the permission of the author or her estate, this work cannot be reproduced elsewhere until it passes into the public domain around 2062. I've heard the Gutenberg Project have already expressed an interest. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [no relation]
Resolved: Re: problems with xfree86 3.3.6
on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 06:40:00PM -0700, Alvin Oga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > hi ya... > > if it used to work...and fails today what did you upgrade ?? I've heard from the poster off-list, believe this has been resolved. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpxk8na20OMg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel NULL pointer
on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:38:17AM +0200, David Jardine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> Following a re-compilation of my kernel (2.0.36) pon is
> behaving erratically, to say the least. After a reboot
> it works quite often the first time, less often the
> second, rarely the third... and once it's failed, it
> always fails after that.
>
> When it fails, it spews out a couple of screenfuls of
> something too fast to capture and then hangs - sometimes
> ^C kills it, sometimes ^D, sometimes I have to reboot.
>
> The straces of failed and successful connections seem
> identical (except for pids and times, of course).
>
> This is the syslog account (the same every time, I think):
>
> Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
> dereference at virtual address c000
> Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
> Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: *pde = 00102067
> Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: *pte =
> Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: Oops:
> Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kernel: CPU:0
> Apr 17 00:17:07 gennes kerneld: error: exit: Identifier removed
>
> If anyone recognizes the symptoms, I'd be most grateful
> for pointers in the direction of a solution.
It's a bug ;-)
Sounds like you're getting a few oopses before the system dies entirely.
You'll want to roll through your kernel and debug logs to see what else
is going, as well as capture some additional information. There's a
guide to reporting kernel-level information in
/usr/src/linux/REPORTING-BUGS. I've converted this to a self-generating
report as a shell script, attached.
You're going to want a couple of utilities on your search path which may
not be there, ksymoops is the biggie. Note also that you can grab
kernel debugging info from several places. If the system locks or
crashes immediately after the event, /var/log/kern.log is going to do
you more good than dmesg, which is regenerated on boot and won't have
much interesting data in it.
If you can get this to trigger automatically (say, with swatch -- don't
ask me, I haven't done this but think it can be done), you might
actually catch system state following one of the oopses.
Hunting through Google or newsgroup archives is probably a good attack
strategy.
Cheers.
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#!/bin/bash
# Kernel bug report generator script
# Script generated from prior bug report form by Karsten M. Self
# $Revision: 1.3 $ $Date: 2000/05/13 07:48:36 $ $Author: root $
#
# [Some of this is taken from Frohwalt Egerer's original linux-kernel FAQ]
#
# What follows is a suggested procedure for reporting Linux bugs. You
# aren't obliged to use the bug reporting format, it is provided as a guide
# to the kind of information that can be useful to developers - no more.
#
# If the failure includes an "OOPS:" type message in your log or on
# screen please read "Documentation/oops-tracing.txt" before posting your
# bug report. This explains what you should do with the "Oops" information
# to make it useful to the recipient.
#
# Send the output the maintainer of the kernel area that seems to
# be involved with the problem. Don't worry too much about getting the
# wrong person. If you are unsure send it to the person responsible for the
# code relevant to what you were doing. If it occurs repeatably try and
# describe how to recreate it. That is worth even more than the oops itself.
# The list of maintainers is in the MAINTAINERS file in this directory.
#
# If you are totally stumped as to whom to send the report, send it to
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] (For more information on the linux-kernel
# mailing list see http://www.tux.org/lkml/).
#
# This is a suggested format for a bug report sent to the Linux kernel mailing
# list. Having a standardized bug report form makes it easier for you not to
# overlook things, and easier for the developers to find the pieces of
# information they're really interested in. Don't feel you have to follow it.
#
#First run the ver_linux script included as scripts/ver_linux or
# at ftp://ftp.sai.msu.su/pub/Linux/ver_linux> It checks out
# the version of some important subsystems. Run it with the command
# "sh scripts/ver_linux"
#
# Use that information to fill in all fields of the bug report form, and
# post it to the mailing list with a subject of "PROBLEM: " for easy identification by the developers
#
# indent by one tabstop
function tabout () { sed -e '/^/s// /'; }
kversion=$( uname -r )
dmesg=dmesg
dmesg="cat /var/log/kern.log" # for debugging only
oops_number=$( $dmesg | grep Oops | tail -1 | sed -e '/^.*:/s///' )
oops_module=$( $dmesg | g
Re: Postfix | Upgrade: Nobody?
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 04:40:19PM +0200, Willi Dyck wrote: Nobody here, who can point me into the right direction? -- ...is a registered (#210445) user of:Debian 2.2r3 GNU/Linux icq# 49564994###AIM: wdyck###GnuPG-Key: 1024D/8BFCA69B Fingerprint: DAD2 E564 B725 E6A3 5A0F 1497 4411 F30F 8BFC A69B pgpjBh5nlpU2F.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Still having problems with the blankscreen
"Russell May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This occurs under the console (no X) as well as X. setterm(1) only affects the console. Under X, see xset(1), probably something like 'xset s off'. >I have tired all the setterm commands listed in the man pages, but my >monitor still blanks out after 10 minutes of nonuse. I have looked >through the init.d stuff and haven't found anything. Any ideas, >suggestions? Thanks. If you're running potato, the setterm man page there was pretty useless, although it's been improved in woody/sid. You probably want some combination of these: -blank [0-60] (virtual consoles only) Sets the interval of inactivity, in minutes, after which the screen will be automatically blanked (using APM if available). Without an argument, defaults to 0 (disable console blanking). -powersave on|vsync Puts the monitor into VESA vsync suspend mode. -powersave hsync Puts the monitor into VESA hsync suspend mode. -powersave powerdown Puts the monitor into VESA powerdown mode. -powersave [off] Turns off monitor VESA powersaving features. -powerdown [0-60] Sets the VESA powerdown interval in minutes. With out an argument, defaults to 0 (disable powerdown). If the console is blanked or the monitor is in sus pend mode, then the monitor will go into vsync sus pend mode or powerdown mode respectively after this period of time has elapsed. 'setterm -blank 0' might well be enough. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem prices (was Re: sigh...big problems if anyone has time to help me out...)
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:38:30AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: | on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:31:09PM -0400, D-Man ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: | > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 06:11:14PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: | > | For starters, you have to find out whether or not you've got a WinModem. | > | If so, your best bet is to buy an external modem for about $100. Most | > | of the stuff that's GNU/Linux-compatible is now labled as such. | > | > $100 sounds rather high to me. I haven't actually bought a modem, all | > the ones I have were given to me. If you want I can send you a | > 14.4Kb/s external US Robotics modem. The only cost will be shipping. | > Otherwise you can probably find a used parts shop around and get one | > there. | | I picked up my last internal for about $80 or so. Externals are more | expensive. Winmodems tend to run half the cost or less -- I've seen | them as low as $25 or so. Don't be fooled. Wow. I really didn't think they were that much. Ethernet is a superior technology, and NICs run $15-$30 for decent ones. As I said I got all my modems as hand-me-downs so I didn't pay for any of them. The only one I got new was the 56K internal win^H^H^Hlosemodem that came with the Compaq I used to own. One of the more recent ones I got was a 28.8K ISA internal modem. It came from the scraps at the company my dad works at. I plugged it in and voila it worked. Much better than that winmodem ;-). Somewhat of a surprise since it came with no ESD protected, etc. and no documentation at all. -D
Re: Nautilus cannot display html
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:53:16AM +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote: > Has anyone tried out sid's nautilus packages? I've got 1.0-2 and 1.0-3 > installed, and both of them could not render html files (they were > displayed as text, meaning html source). It was not even capable of > rendering its own help page. Did I miss something? I thoght it used the > mozilla-rendering engine (which I have installed, even if it is not > listed in the dependencies) The package that enables Nautilus to do this is nautilus-mozilla. It depends on Mozilla .8 which is not packaged (officially) yet. The nautilus maintainer has created unofficial mozilla .8 packages at http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla BUT, it doesn't really matter because even then nautilus-mozilla doesn't work - instead of just displaying the source it grumbles a bit and gives you a very non-helpful error message (something akin to "there was an error" or something like that). -Rob
Re: any women here?
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 07:49:49PM -0400, melissa ion kibbe wrote: > > > That's not a bad idea. Women tend to have a more open-ended, inclusive > > "take" on things than men do. > > > > Ladies, join us at http://newbiedoc.sourceForge.net, and help make > > Debian a kinder, gentler place > > gee, do you think you included every stereotype about women you could > have? the only thing missing i guess would be something to the effect of > "they could bake us cookies at conferences." If the previous exhange wasn't so long I would have to make it part of my .sig : ). Great stuff... -Rob
Re: Nautilus cannot display html
on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:53:16AM +0200, Joerg Johannes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello List > > Has anyone tried out sid's nautilus packages? I've got 1.0-2 and 1.0-3 > installed, and both of them could not render html files (they were > displayed as text, meaning html source). It was not even capable of > rendering its own help page. Did I miss something? I thoght it used the > mozilla-rendering engine (which I have installed, even if it is not > listed in the dependencies) > Any idea? Is this a bug which should be reported? I believe it's a Mozilla dependency. Mozilla's a few revs behind in Debian, even in unstable, due to complexities in packaging. Check Nautilus help resources for more information. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpW1MjgoCRgS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.2r3 and pseudo-image
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:48:22PM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote: > Feel free to point me at a FM to R. > > I have an iso image of 2.2r2 binary 1, built using the pseudo-image kit. > > Q: Can I loop mount this puppy and use rsync to convert it to 2.2r3 >binary 1? > > Seems like it should be do-able, and minimize bandwidth hogging. Since you've already got the image, I don't think you need to mount it at all. Substitute your iso image for the output of the pseudo-image kit and let rsync do it's best. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpTeYbEmNgXy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: what i've learned, and explanation.
on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:17:45PM -0400, D-Man ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:29:42PM -0700, Phil Murphy wrote: > | > | Unless I convert my 486-sx to Debian, I'll never see those great > | uptimes I see posted. :) I may do that just because I can. 486-sx, > | 24 megs, should run properly I would assume. > > 24MB RAM!! It should run great, I think. I have an old 486sx here > with only 8MB RAM. It thrashes a lot. apt-get upgrade takes longer > to install the packages than to download them over a 33.6K modem! > > Any ideas on where I can find some RAM for it? It only has 2 slots, > so I need to get some relatively large SIMMS. SIMMs, IIRC. They're getting pretty expensive, though you might be able to find 'em used (buy extra in case of bad chips) pretty inexpensively. Test 'em hard (memtest is your friend). -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpdtdcjk02F2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sawfish screwed up after upgrade
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:39:48PM -0500, Larry Elmore wrote: > After upgrading to 'Unstable', Sawfish reverted to default settings and > any attempt to use the Gnome Control Center to change those settings > results in the Gnome Control Center being locked up. Has anyone else had > a problem like this? I've tried purging all packages that might be > related to this problem, then deleting all directories and files still > left behind by those packages, then reinstalling the packages. No luck. > Any ideas? I experienced these symptoms when I upgraded from potato+ximian to unstable. librep was the problem IIRC. I solved the problem by getting rid of all the ximian stuff. No problems since then. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpjVnSV6Mf7l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ip masquerade : which one?
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:13:34AM +1000, Kevin Easton wrote: > ipmasq is the go. ipmasq is cool. ipmasq rocks your world. > > Just setup your internet access on the gateway machine, then when it's all > working, apt-get install ipmasq - and you'll have ipmasquerading for all > your local networks. No configuration required. > > Well, it blew me away anyway. > > - Kevin. > > (And if you want to add any custom firewall rules, just add your own script > to /etc/ipmasq/rules/). On that note, I would like to see some example scripts that address that issue. As part of the upcoming task-harden, it would be nice if someone would take on the task of adding .rul files which close most of the ports - perhaps a simple script which checks what services you have (www, ssh, etc) and leaves only those ports between 1-1024 open to the outside world.
Modem prices (was Re: sigh...big problems if anyone has time to help me out...)
on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:31:09PM -0400, D-Man ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 06:11:14PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > | on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:45:28PM -0700, GPswyft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > | > | > I install linux from the floppies. > | > | Which version? I'm going to assume Debian GNU/Linux 2.1, "Potato". > > I assume that's a typo and you meant "2.2", not "2.1". Wups. Yep. I usually refer by name, not number, anyway. > ... > | For starters, you have to find out whether or not you've got a WinModem. > | If so, your best bet is to buy an external modem for about $100. Most > | of the stuff that's GNU/Linux-compatible is now labled as such. > > $100 sounds rather high to me. I haven't actually bought a modem, all > the ones I have were given to me. If you want I can send you a > 14.4Kb/s external US Robotics modem. The only cost will be shipping. > Otherwise you can probably find a used parts shop around and get one > there. I picked up my last internal for about $80 or so. Externals are more expensive. Winmodems tend to run half the cost or less -- I've seen them as low as $25 or so. Don't be fooled. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpsRAj3RbzJO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Should arrogant, self-important people be encouraged to use L inux?
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:39:21PM -0400, Brenda J. Butler wrote: > Anyway, the chap who started the thread is right. The open > source collection now isn't the same as it was when we-all learned > linux. These days, it _is_ really confusing to try to learn it by > reading what comes on the system (all several gigs of it and > badly organised, and directed to people who want to run web > servers and other servers, and each new document features a reason > why an older simpler package can't be used and this new, more complicated > and more-integrated-with-other-stuff package should replace it). 1) kevin was factually right: documentation is a trouble spot. 2) kevin wanted someone else to fix it. for his sake. right now. After several iterations of folks asking for him a) to specify what troubles he was having so they could help out and b) to think about pitching in to be part of the solution, he merely got petulant ... And so we all chose -- independently, based on our tolerance levels -- to cut him loose. The trouble is, and this is probably what you're getting at -- is that folks coming over from the mac or from windo~1 bring their expectations with them, and the baggage that comes with it. When i first started posting here, i was frequently amazed and flabbergasted that anyone would be able to figure out any of this stuff. "find files containing" = grep. "upgrade my system" = apt. I got spanked a few times, and I'm Feeling Much Better Now. Figuring out HOW to find things and WHERE to look, is a big, big step. Especially for a debian/linux newbie. > So don't look down your noses at newbies. They face a different, > much more challenging world than you did when you learned it. Most of us don't actively scorn newbies; we give them a chance or two to really tick us off (search the archives for 'charles lamb') and THEN we look down our noses at them. And even then, we still go to http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ and write the docs they complain about not being able to find. Wanna help? :) -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Exim issue
After setting up exim I can send mail using Mutt it appears to send fine and there are no errors in the logs. When I send to one of my addresses from my ISP it sends it I can go out and look at the mail on the ISP's server. But no messages are getting sent to 3rd parties. I set up exim as a smarthost with home being the visiable the name and mail.sisna.com for the server to send non local mail to. I don't have the logs right now but does anyone know of a common reason why mails are not getting forwarded to a third party person. Thanks.
Re: server ID
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is a stupid question, but hopefully someone can answer. When you > telnet into a debian, or any linux box, at the login in prompt, it > shows the dist name, and server name. How and where can you customize > this. Also after you log in it shows warning info, where can that be > changed? man uname man motd man issue Cheers, Alex
Re: server ID
Not sure about the dist name/server name, but the "warning info" (I'm assuming you mean the licensing & warranty stuff) is in /etc/motd. -Brian Dunnette On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:51:35AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is a stupid question, but hopefully someone can answer. > When you telnet into a debian, or any linux box, at the login in prompt, it > shows the dist name, and server name. How and where can you customize this. > Also after you log in it shows warning info, where can that be changed? > > > rick
Re: Still having problems with the blankscreen
Hmmm... I would look into computer's bios settings. If I had to guess, I would say that your bios is using some sort of power management. On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:43:43AM -0600, Russell May wrote: > This occurs under the console (no X) as well as X. > I have tired all the setterm commands listed in the man pages, but my monitor > still blanks out after 10 minutes of nonuse. I have looked through the init.d > stuff and haven't found anything. Any ideas, suggestions? Thanks. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him." - Stanislaw Jerszy Lec (1909- )
Re: server ID
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This is a stupid question, but hopefully someone can answer. > When you telnet into a debian, or any linux box, at the login in prompt, it > shows the dist name, and server name. How and where can you customize this. > Also after you log in it shows warning info, where can that be changed? > > rick The text that is displayed before you log in is in the file /etc/issue.net (or /etc/issue if you are logging in on the console). The text displayed after you log in is in /etc/motd. Both files are plain text, so you can edit them with your favorite editor. -- Morgan Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: user config files for xterm?
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:37:22PM -0500, Bryan Walton wrote: > Can the xterm package utilize user config files that override universal > setttings on the box? If so, does anyone know what the file should be > called? Dug through the man page but didn't find anything on this. Yes. It's not documented because it's not xterm specific. In the old days all X apps were configured via the X resource database, which provided a more or less universal text interface to configuring your apps. Tools like editres can be used to grab a list of resources supported by X apps. You have a couple options. There is a generic ~/.Xresources file in which you can put customizations. So here's some stuff from mine: XTerm*background: black XTerm*foreground: white XTerm*scrollBar: true XTerm*saveLines: 1000 XTerm*font: fixed XTerm*loginShell: true To customize a particular app, you need to get its class name via the xprop command. XTerm happens to be xterm's class name. The problem with .Xresources is that every X app needs to parse it (or at least those that use the X resource db). If you have many customizations there it can slow things down. If you create a directory (say ~/.my_app_defaults/), set XAPPLRESDIR to point to that directory and put a file in that directory, the file will be parsed by the app whose class matches the filename. So xterm will parse $XAPPLRESDIR/XTerm. Of course, computers these days are fast enough that you don't necessarily care to make use of the XAPPLRESDIR method. You probably won't notice a difference. On a SPARC IPX, though, I notice a difference. 8^) noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpjiwGKINLSe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: The Heart Is An Open Source: A Romance
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:31:28PM +1000, Damon Muller wrote: ... > > Although a real man would have been running qmail and courier-imap... > Nah, real men run sendmail. For the same reason real men don't program in Pascal. Dima -- E-mail dmaziuk at bmrb dot wisc dot edu (@work) or at crosswinds dot net (@home) http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu/descript/gpgkey.dmaziuk.ascii -- GnuPG 1.0.4 public key Well, lusers are technically human. -- Red Drag Diva in ASR
server ID
This is a stupid question, but hopefully someone can answer. When you telnet into a debian, or any linux box, at the login in prompt, it shows the dist name, and server name. How and where can you customize this. Also after you log in it shows warning info, where can that be changed? rick
floppy permissions
Hello all. New subscriber to the list and have the following situation. Running a potato box. I wanted to save a document created in StarOffice to /mnt/floppy/ but it told me I didn't have the right perms. As user, I am already added to the group 'floppy'. So I checked the perms and found I didn't have write privs. Went to chmod to correct the situation and had these results: YOU ARE ROOT!! on jchammin /mnt pts/4> chmod 777 floppy YOU ARE ROOT!! on jchammin /mnt pts/4> ls -al total 17 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 Jan 15 21:45 ./ drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 1024 Jan 20 11:01 ../ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 7168 Dec 31 1969 floppy/ drwxrwxrwx 60 root root 8192 Dec 31 1969 windoz/ Even tried the symbols: YOU ARE ROOT!! on jchammin /mnt pts/4> chmod a+rwx floppy YOU ARE ROOT!! on jchammin /mnt pts/4> ls -al total 17 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 Jan 15 21:45 ./ drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 1024 Jan 20 11:01 ../ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 7168 Dec 31 1969 floppy/ drwxrwxrwx 60 root root 8192 Dec 31 1969 windoz/ And even: YOU ARE ROOT!! on jchammin /mnt pts/4> chmod --reference=windoz floppy YOU ARE ROOT!! on jchammin /mnt pts/4> ls -al total 17 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 Jan 15 21:45 ./ drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 1024 Jan 20 11:01 ../ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 7168 Dec 31 1969 floppy/ drwxrwxrwx 60 root root 8192 Dec 31 1969 windoz/ I did this after reading the man for chmod. What am I missing? -- 73, JC Portlock KE6UME [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 14481033 === Professionals built the Titanic, but Amateurs built the Ark. === Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
Re: any women here?
Romain writes: >It's hard to solve a problem when you don't see where the problem >exactly lies. Exactly! Based upon a real-life experience, a letter that attempts to demonstrate where (I feel) the problem lies: http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/careplan.html Men (especially men in Orange County) benefit from (need it be said?) patriarchy. (Well, maybe not all men, and especially not all men who volunteer with un-, anti- and non-corporate projects, such as debian.) Yours, -- Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...or [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG/PGP: www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/pubkey.html http://www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/airguard.html
Re: help! can't start X anymore
I got X working !!! :) well just IceWM is working - but that's ok there are still some error messages from some programs - I don't know how to fix them! Warning: Color name "black" is not defined Warning: Color name "red3" is not defined Warning: Color name "green3" is not defined Warning: Color name "yellow3" is not defined Warning: Color name "blue3" is not defined Warning: Color name "magenta3" is not defined Warning: Color name "cyan3" is not defined Warning: Color name "gray90" is not defined Warning: Color name "gray30" is not defined Warning: Color name "red" is not defined Warning: Color name "green" is not defined Warning: Color name "yellow" is not defined Warning: Color name "blue" is not defined Warning: Color name "magenta" is not defined Warning: Color name "cyan" is not defined Warning: Color name "white" is not defined or this can't parse black can't parse white What does that mean - any ideas how to fix this? when I try to run XF86Setup I get this: #XF86Setup Warning CHIPSET specification missing in Card database entry S3 Savage4 (line 1442). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident TGUI9420 (generic) (line 2186). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident TGUI9440 (generic) (line 2191). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident TGUI9660 (generic) (line 2196). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident TGUI9680 (generic) (line 2201). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident Cyber 9320 (generic) (line 2218). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident Cyber 939a (generic) (line 2241). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident Cyber 9520 (generic) (line 2252). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident Providia 9682 (generic) (line 2275). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident Providia 9685 (generic) (line 2280). Warning CHIPSET specification missing in Card database entry Intel 810 (line 2919). Warning CHIPSET specification missing in Card database entry Intel 740 (generic) (line 2925). Segmentation fault /home/user1# Could it be that I miss some xserver packages? Right now I just have xserver-svga and xserver-vga16 installed. when I start SuperProbe it gives me this: First video: Super-VGA Chipset: Yamaha 6388 VPDC (Port Probed) RAMDAC: Generic 8-bit pseudo-color DAC (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode) home/user1# does that mean I'm running the xserver in 8-bit mode? TIA!! Philipp
Re: Debian not ready for Euro? - disaster
Hello, On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 04:47:48PM +0200, Theo Herrmann wrote: > I installed the patch. The result is really strange. Now i have the Euro > symbol > in the console and xterm but it is impossible to type the number "1". If i > press "1" the terminal just peeps. X-free crash if i try to start icwm. > Well, I canceled all the changes now icwm works but the problem with the "1" > remains. > It seemed that due to my effort to get EURO running I corrupted the system. > (because I tried a really lot) Uups. The files and configs work perfectly here! You do have a i386 and german keyboard layout do you? Anyway, it is definitely impossible to corrupt a system with these keyboard configurations. So don't panic!!! Login as root and do the following steps: Delete the files ~./lat0-16.psf, ~/.Xresources, ~/.Xmodmap and /etc/X11/Xmodmap. Remove the entry for 'consolechars -f lat0-16.psf' that you added to your ~/.bash_profile. Copy /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1.kmap.gz to /etc/kbd/default.map.gz. Run install-keymap /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1.kmap.gz'. Reboot. Everything should be o.k. now. If it isn't you did something weird that was not said in the install instructions! Best luck, Guenter -- Linux: Who needs GATES in a world without fences?
