Re: iptables firewall help

2001-06-26 Thread john
Matt,

I can't remember the exact URL, but somewhere in the IBM developer forums is a
really good tutorial on using iptables to create a firewall. It includes some
nice scripts, and is much clearer than Rusty's guides.

John P Foster
http://www.golden-orb.com


Matthew Garman wrote:

> I would like to upgrade my kernel from 2.2 to 2.4.  The main thing that
> concerns me is building a new iptables-based firewall (as opposed to
> ipchains).
>
> 
> So for starters, I'd like to have a good, secure, well-commented iptables
> firewall script that I could use and learn from.  Then I'd like to see
> some online documentation on firewall considerations.
> 
> If anyone can point me in the right direction to get started, I would be
> very appreciative :)
>
> Thanks!
> Matt
>
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Re: What kind of attack is this?

2001-06-26 Thread Eugene Tyurin
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 09:23:56AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
  
> I've gotten the same sort of message. It appears in the lpr.log and
> syslog. I think it's an internal problem and not an attack from outside.

Portsentry didn't detect anything.  I briefly looked at the config
files for lprng, and it looks like they leave lpd listening to outside
connections.  So, yes, it looks like somebody was trying to mess with
my lpd - this is why portsentry didn't pick up on it.  So, meanwhile I
just purged lprng as I found myself not printing anything for the past
few months.

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Re: headers in mutt

2001-06-26 Thread Janto Trappe
On [26-06-01 19:40], Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

> Using the option ignore in the muttrc file seems to be endless, because there 
> is a lot of things to be ignored. I think that is better to tell mutt what to 
> keep instead...

'ignore all' and 'unignore what-you-want-to-see':

ignore *
unignore date from: to cc subject x-mailer reply-to user-agent

Janto

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iptables firewall help

2001-06-26 Thread Matthew Garman

I would like to upgrade my kernel from 2.2 to 2.4.  The main thing that
concerns me is building a new iptables-based firewall (as opposed to
ipchains).

I was using the TrinityOS firewall for ipchains.  I read through it,
somewhat, but basically accepted its security on blind faith.

I figure that with the switch to 2.4 and iptables, now would be a good
time to really learn how to write a good firewall script.

So for starters, I'd like to have a good, secure, well-commented iptables
firewall script that I could use and learn from.  Then I'd like to see
some online documentation on firewall considerations.

For the summer, I want a firewall that works with dynamic IP addresses so
my dad and I can share a modem (standard, ultra-slow serial analog modem),
running no services.

Then, when I go back to school, I'll want to change the script so I can
share a cablemodem with my roommates.  I'll also run a couple basic
services at that time, such as a mailer, an SSH daemon, and probably
Apache.

If anyone can point me in the right direction to get started, I would be
very appreciative :)

Thanks!
Matt

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Re: Java and flash plugin for Mozilla

2001-06-26 Thread DvB

Chun Kit Edwin Lau wrote:


Hi,

Can you plz tell me which version of mozilla are you using. Mine is 
0.9.1 (the latest)? In my case, the program seems to install normally, but just 
that xpicleanup.dat that causes mozilla not to start.  Also, flash doesn't even 
work for me.

Edwin Lau



I'm currently running the 2001062609 nightly build which is a 
development version of 0.9.2.
As I mentioned in my last follow-up, you might want to try running a 
kill -HUP on the xpicleantup process instead of deleting the file. That 
process is what's making mozilla think that it's still running.


As to flash, how are you going about installing it? Your problem might 
be there.




Re: How to install cdrom (Samsung CDR-RW, SW-208; Debian Potato 2.3

2001-06-26 Thread Stephen Taylor
mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom

no. I've tried every variation except 
`for i in /dev/* ; do mount -t iso9660 -o ro $i /cdrom; done`
because I have not documented the consequences
I skimmed through a HOW-TO today; it referred to the loop device. Another
possibility - but first I will restore the cmos; lastly I will reformat the
hard drive.

Thanks/st

At 05:25 AM 6/27/01 +0800, you wrote:
>On Monday 25 June 2001 23:40, Stephen Taylor wrote:
>> Thanks for the suggestions; it still doesn't recognize the cd..
>> - if it reads a disk I'll try another console to catch the device -
>> but it's apt-get and it may not stay mounted
>>
>> These don't work:
>> - mount /dev/hdb
>> - boot: linux ide-scsi=hdb
>
>But does this work:
>
>mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom
>
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Re: OT: C++ Newbie and KDE/QT

2001-06-26 Thread John
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 05:06, Brendon wrote:
> This summer holiday I took on the task of learning C++ with (shamefully :)
> the help of C++ For Dummies.
>
> Having tried to learn C++ in the past I'm now reasonably familar with it's
> synax so i thought i'd also try learning QT/KDE programming at the same
> time. But the tutorials I've been through on the doc.trolltech.com site
> have left me a little disappointed.
>
> Does anyone know of a good site where QT/KDE programming is explained? And
> what did you start with when learning C++?
>
> any suggestions are appreciated.

what ive been doing lately, and find the best, is to decide what you wanted 
to do ,(in my case, figure out QGL) find the source to a simple example, and 
then create your own simpler project. Learn how to copy and past, and in the 
process learn the topic, and get some kind of app out of it.

John



Re: Netscape 4.77 Java Fonts too large

2001-06-26 Thread Harold Bibik
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 09:31:16PM +0200, Guy Geens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
scribbled


> I long time ago, I found a page with tips on how to make Netscape
> fonts look better. I can't find it now, but this page seems to have
> the information you need:
> http://www2.arnes.si/~mrihta3/ns-unix.html
> 
> Also, install the msttcorefonts package. This gives you access to
> Microsoft's TTF fonts which are used by many web sites.

Already have the msttcorefonts installed and the Netscape.ad modified
but there was some interesting stuff about scalable fonts at the
bottom of the page you mentioned...thanks for the URL, I'll play
around with scalable fonts and see if that helps.





mounting qnx filesystems

2001-06-26 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hey people. 

Does anyone know of any work being done to permit Linux to mount QNX
filesystems? I didn't see any such work in the kernel source. 

Thanks,

Mike

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custom upgrades

2001-06-26 Thread Dana S. Wheeler
I have a really slow modem connection (rural phone line) so updating by
apt-get on line is not really an option. Is there some
web site where you can compile your own custom cd and have them mail it
to you?

Thanks

Dana S. Wheeler

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things of man.





Re: resent, manpage pg-up & pg-dn not working

2001-06-26 Thread Eric Boo
Okay, I got it, sorry for the double post. Something screwed up.

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Re: mount (2.4.4)

2001-06-26 Thread Robin Gerard
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 08:04:21PM +, Robin Gerard wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 01:38:44PM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote:
 > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 07:43:20PM +, Robin Gerard wrote:
 ...
 > :fatfs : bogus cluster size
 > :VFS:can't find a valide MSDOS filesystem on dev 02:00
 > :mount:you must specify the filesystem type
 . 
 > You probably have a raw kernel image on the floppy (no filesystem at
 > all).  Try "rdev /dev/fd0" you should get back something like "Root
 > device /dev/hda1" if you have a kernel image there.
 
 ok but I can write my boot diskette of the kernel 2.2.17 
 
 > You're probably better off using lilo or another boot loader to boot
 > of the HD, boot ing from floppy is Soo tedious :)
 
 I agree with you but I have potato 2.2r2 and an other OS on one 
 hdd second master (hdc) and potato 2.2r0 on an other hdd first
 master (hda). Lilo boot linux and the other OS on hdc and
 I boot linux with a boot diskette on hda.
 Can I boot the three systems with lilo ?
 I guess that I must use grub to do this.   
 > -Jon
 > 
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resent, manpage pg-up & pg-dn not working

2001-06-26 Thread Eric Boo
Hi,

This message was resent because it didn;t seem to appear on the list.

How do I at least get page up to work when I'm viewing man pages? Right now all
I get are beeps when I try the page-up and page-down keys.

Page-down isn't so important as I can use the spacebar instead.

Neither do the up and down arrows work.

Using SID.

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Re: Java and flash plugin for Mozilla

2001-06-26 Thread Chun Kit Edwin Lau
Hi,

Can you plz tell me which version of mozilla are you using. Mine is 
0.9.1 (the latest)? In my case, the program seems to install normally, but just 
that xpicleanup.dat that causes mozilla not to start.  Also, flash doesn't even 
work for me.

Edwin Lau


On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 07:57:35PM -0500, DvB wrote:
> Chun Kit Edwin Lau wrote:
> 
> >  Hi everyone,
> >  
> > After a long and exhausted trial and error, I am giving up.  I can't 
> > get the java and flash plugin work for mozilla.  Anyone care to tell me how 
> > they get it working?  Java doesn't seem to properly finish the installation 
> > even it said so.  After Java 2 plugin installation, I can't really start 
> > mozilla again unless I delete the file /usr/lib/mozilla-0.9.1/xpicleanup.dat
> >  
> > 
> 
> Flash has always worked for me just by copying the .so file into 
> $MOZILLA/plugins. Java, however, has given me some trouble lately. I 
> finally did get it to install after a couple tries and them, as with 
> you, it refused to start. I fixed that by running a ps ax and noticing 
> that xpicleanup (or something similar) was still running. After kill 
> -HUP'ing this process, mozilla started and java worked fine.
> 
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Re: Raid; mkraid /dev/md0_HELP?

2001-06-26 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya...

i had zero problems upgrading to linux-2.2.18 based debian sw raid5
( was previously built very old raid5 ... still cranking away )

http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid-howto.2.2.18.txt

- dont know if there's any major diff between *.18 and *.19

have fun
alvin
http://www.Linux-Sec.net ... Security Stuff ..


On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Frans Schreuder wrote:

> Well you're partially right. I did not recompile (but used the
> 'install'-
> /kernel module 'selector' to get the modules for raid in.)
> /I applied kernel-patch-2.2.19 (Preparing to replace
> kernel-patch-2.2.19-/raid
> /2
> /(using kernel-patch-2.2.19-raid_2_all.deb) ...
> /Unpacking replacement kernel-patch-2.2.19-raid ...
> /Setting up kernel-patch-2.2.19-raid (2) ...)
> /Can it be that kernel-patch-2.2.10-raid and ...-2.2.10-raid coexist on my
> /system?
> /
> /installed raidtools-2
> /
> /There is more?/
> 
> Yes there is. Boldly went where probably the donkey went.
> I did a clean install.(2.2r0 via FTP)
> Got me:
> - the 2.2.19 kernel image with raid and linear
> - the 2.2.19 kernelpatch 2 all
> - raidtools2
> - bzip2
> - other dependencies..
> 
> mkraid gives the same errors.
> Still not able to get a clue from the /proc/mdstat (has linear too now)
> or from the  /var/log/syslog.
> 
> VFS reports an error on IDE1 (can't find ext2 filesystem.. having just
> shutted down that machine so more on that.Ok booting it...)
> 
> "VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide1(22,65).
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1, or too many
> mounted filesystems" (is that possible? by the way).
> 
> 



Re: Java and flash plugin for Mozilla

2001-06-26 Thread DvB

Chun Kit Edwin Lau wrote:


 Hi everyone,
 
 	After a long and exhausted trial and error, I am giving up.  I can't get the java and flash plugin work for mozilla.  Anyone care to tell me how they get it working?  Java doesn't seem to properly finish the installation even it said so.  After Java 2 plugin installation, I can't really start mozilla again unless I delete the file /usr/lib/mozilla-0.9.1/xpicleanup.dat
 



Flash has always worked for me just by copying the .so file into 
$MOZILLA/plugins. Java, however, has given me some trouble lately. I 
finally did get it to install after a couple tries and them, as with 
you, it refused to start. I fixed that by running a ps ax and noticing 
that xpicleanup (or something similar) was still running. After kill 
-HUP'ing this process, mozilla started and java worked fine.




Some G450 dual-head problems

2001-06-26 Thread Byeong-Jun Park
I use Maxtrox G450 dual-head whith
Samsung Syncmaster 950NF (First screen)
 and 17Gli (Second Screen) Monitors

My working environments are
Sid,  X 4.0.3 
I have two problems.

1. I can not apply gamma correction value online
  to screen 1 (second monitor) with xgamma utility
  ( xgamma -screen 0  ...  good work but
xgamma -screen 1  ...  no change )
 and Anyone knows gamma correction widzard running on X ?

2. glx not work.
   If I turn on glx module,
  X hangs up with message,  "Can not find /dev/nvidia0"
 I have had nvidia geforce2 MX, but now it is removed
 and I remove nvidia-glx package.

Thank you for your reading this message..  ;-)

>From Korea, Republic of
  Byeong-Jun Park



Re: Build a new Kernel

2001-06-26 Thread Shaul Karl
> Hello,
> 
> How can I build a new kernel? Where is the source?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Juan José Velázquez Garcia
> Web Development
> www.htmlspider.com.br
> 



One way is to by using the kernel-package deb.

Script started on Wed Jun 27 03:20:33 2001
[03:20:34 tmp]$ grep-available -PX kernel-package
Package: kernel-package
Priority: optional
Section: misc
Installed-Size: 744
Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Version: 7.43
Depends: perl5, dpkg (>= 1.4), dpkg-dev (>= 1.4.0.9), fileutils (>= 4.0)
Recommends: libc-dev, gcc, debianutils, make
Suggests: kernel-source, libdb3-dev, libncurses-dev
Filename: pool/main/k/kernel-package/kernel-package_7.43_all.deb
Size: 180642
MD5sum: 27d2338a0a95acd8dee594fc0131dd2a
Description: Debian Linux kernel package build scripts.
 This package provides the capability to create a debian kernel-image
 package by just running make-kpkg kernel_image in a kernel source
 directory tree.  It can also package the relevant kernel headers into
 a kernel-headers package. In general, this package is very useful if
 you need to create a custom kernel, if, for example, the default
 kernel does not support some of your hardware, or you wish a leaner,
 meaner kernel.  It also scripts the steps that need be taken to
 compile the kernel, which is quite convenient (forgetting a crucial
 step once was the initial motivation for this package). Please look at
 /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/Rationale.gz for a full list of advantages
 of this package.
 .
 If you are running on an intel x86 platform, and you wish to compile a
 custom kernel (why else are you considering this package?), then you may
 need the package bin86 as well.  (This is not required on other platforms).

[03:21:06 tmp]$ exit
exit

Script done on Wed Jun 27 03:21:21 2001

/usr/share/doc/kernel-package has detailed instruction on building and 
installing a new kernel.

As for the kernel source, you might search for kernel-source* in 
http;//packages.debian.org



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Re: How to fetchmail from ISP-b using SSH when ISP-a has socks?

2001-06-26 Thread Robert Cymbala

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joost Kooij) wrote:
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:51:47 +0200
 [...]
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 07:00:36PM -0700, Robert Cymbala wrote:
 [...]
> Or install ssh-socks, but it is a non-free package, rms doesn't like it.


I've got an unrelated, yet perhaps still important, question about
packages.  If package A conflicts with package B, should package B say
that it conflicts with package A?

For example (a biased example, involving ssh):

$ awk '/^$/{if (p ~ /^ssh/) {print p, c;} p=c="";} \
> /^Package:/{p=$2} /^Conflicts:/{c=$0}' /var/lib/dpkg/status

ssh-nonfree Conflicts: ssh, ssh-askpass (<= 1.2.27-4)
ssh Conflicts: ssh-nonfree, ssh-socks, ssh2, debconf (<< 0.2.17), debconf-tiny 
(<< 0.2.17)
ssh-socks 


Package ssh-socks doesn't conflict with anything, but ssh conflicts
with ssh-socks and ssh-nonfree.  Do rules for making packages say that
conflicts have to be indicated by control-information of both
packages?

Cheers,
Robert



Re: How to fetchmail from ISP-b using SSH when ISP-a has socks?

2001-06-26 Thread Robert Cymbala

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joost Kooij) wrote:
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:51:47 +0200
 [...]
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 07:00:36PM -0700, Robert Cymbala wrote:
 [...]
> Or even crawling?  The '-v' option to ssh is your friend, and together with
> the manpages, there's suddenly a whole cosy circle of friends.  ;-)


I'm using the version of ssh with SOCKS support,
judging from stdout of this command:
 # apt-get install ssh-socks

Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Sorry, ssh-socks is already the newest version
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.

But there's no manpage for "ssh-socks":
 # man ssh-socks

No manual entry for ssh-socks

Do I read ``man ssh'' to find out why it said "No route to host" when
I used the "-v" option of ssh?


Cheers,
Robert



Re: printing to a windows shared printer with smbprint

2001-06-26 Thread Karsten Heymann
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 11:57:50AM +0200 or thereabouts, Jeroen Valcke wrote:

> I installed smbprint to be able to print to a printer attached to a
> windows pc. However it doens't work
> Anybody an idea what I did wrong.
> I found some doc's on the net.
> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch07_02.html and
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-10.html

> First I installed the package printtool. 

If you installed it, why don't you use it? It's quite nice in my
opinion. Just start it under X and install your printer.

my 2c,

Karsten

BTW: I never used RedHat, just like that tool.

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RE: Using different DNS per ISP

2001-06-26 Thread Ian Perry
Here are just a few

rip.psg.com IP address = 147.28.0.39
NS.RIPE.NET IP address = 193.0.0.193
B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 192.33.14.30
C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 192.26.92.30
E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 192.12.94.30
F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 192.35.51.30
G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 192.42.93.30
H.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 192.54.112.30
I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 192.36.144.133
J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 210.132.100.101
K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 213.177.194.5
L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 192.41.162.30
M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET  IP address = 202.153.114.101

It all depends on where you are in the world.

Try this one
ADDITIONAL RECORDS:... London ?
->  ns0.gradwell.com.
type = A, class = 1, ttl = 37921, dlen = 4
IP address = 195.149.39.7

Ian



-Original Message-
From: Vector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:41 AM
To: Marcus
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Using different DNS per ISP


You could just find a nameserver out there somewhere to use that doesn't
restrict lookups in the way your ISP's do (I'm not sure why they're
doing that anyway.)  There are plenty of them out there and they would
probably work just as well (obviously the closer/faster the traffic to
the DNS server you use the better performance you will see.)

vector


On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Marcus wrote:

>
> I'm using two different ISPs depending on time of day, and cost.
> Problem is that they will only accept their own nameserver under
> /etc/resolv.conf. Is there a way around this, or do I need a script
> which changes resolv.conf before dialing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>


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Re: How to fetchmail from ISP-b using SSH when ISP-a has socks?

2001-06-26 Thread Robert Cymbala

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joost Kooij) wrote:
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:51:47 +0200
 [...]
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 07:00:36PM -0700, Robert Cymbala wrote:
 [...]
> Or even crawling?  The '-v' option to ssh is your friend, and together with
> the manpages, there's suddenly a whole cosy circle of friends.  ;-)


Below is stderr from this command:
$ ssh-socks -v -C -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] -L 0:redpraxis.org:110 sleep 5

SSH Version 1.2.27 [i686-unknown-linux], protocol version 1.5.
Standard version.  Does not use RSAREF.
debian: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh-nonfree/ssh_config
debian: Applying options for *
debian: ssh_connect: getuid 1000 geteuid 0 anon 0
debian: Connecting to redpraxis.org [64.176.182.204] port 22.
debian: Allocated local port 1023.
debian: connect: No route to host
debian: Trying again...
debian: Connecting to redpraxis.org [64.176.182.204] port 22.
debian: Allocated local port 1023.
debian: connect: No route to host
debian: Trying again...
debian: Connecting to redpraxis.org [64.176.182.204] port 22.
debian: Allocated local port 1023.
debian: connect: No route to host
debian: Trying again...
debian: Connecting to redpraxis.org [64.176.182.204] port 22.
debian: Allocated local port 1023.
debian: connect: No route to host
Secure connection to redpraxis.org refused; reverting to insecure method.
Using rsh.  WARNING: Connection will not be encrypted.
/usr/bin/rsh redpraxis.org -l cymbala -n sleep 5
/usr/bin/rsh: No such file or directory

-Robert



Re: xfree 4.1 packages

2001-06-26 Thread Jimmy Richards
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 12:48:38AM +0200, Thomas Hess wrote:
> hi,
> 
> anyone knows a location for xfree 4.1 deb-packages? thx in advance.
> 
> tom

Hi There Tom,

You can check out this web site.

http://people.debian.org/~branden/


Good Luck,

Jim Richards

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Java and flash plugin for Mozilla

2001-06-26 Thread Chun Kit Edwin Lau
 Hi everyone,
 
After a long and exhausted trial and error, I am giving up.  I can't 
get the java and flash plugin work for mozilla.  Anyone care to tell me how 
they get it working?  Java doesn't seem to properly finish the installation 
even it said so.  After Java 2 plugin installation, I can't really start 
mozilla again unless I delete the file /usr/lib/mozilla-0.9.1/xpicleanup.dat
 
-- 
Edwin Lau ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: Proliant 1000 pains in the butt

2001-06-26 Thread Frans Schreuder
Thanx for the response,

A question though..
I would like some pointers/pointing on how to look for a way to determine
the specific controller (the onboard-one and the array (probably is the
kernel smart-2; although the kernel doesn't recognize it on boot)).
>
> my experience is when trying to use a cdrom drive under dos is to boot up
> with a win98 rescue disk.

Well that worked...but it's not what I want (wasn't easy either).

>
> But, if you do not get the drive to work under Linux install either, do
> not expect it to work when the drive works under DOS.
>
> The kernel you have compiled, did you do that from scratch or did you use
> the default config?

I compiled it from scratch (i think it is with a standard setup) but bumped
in the overload on scsi-drivers. Forrest and Trees;  looking?
I made a bzImage, copied it to the rescue flop ( that part worked) renaming
it linux.
Boot worked, but it doesn't get to recognize the CD (that's half the way,
then I can "remote-configure" it i.e. get the monitor and keyboard out of
the way)

>The config files used for the kernel is in
> /boot/Config-2.2.17, copy this to /usr/src/linux/.config

I don't really get that. Copy and run # configure ?

>and configure
> your scsi adapters. This way your compiled kernel is most likely to boot
> and compatible to the kernel used for installation.

> Greetz,
> Sebastiaan
>
>
>
>  On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Frans Schreuder wrote:
>
> > Hai,
> >
> > Still trying to get that thing working my way..
> >
> > Trying to be as complete as possible.
> > Proliant 1000
> > Pentium 60 :-)
> > 128MB ram
> > 5x4.3GB Fast wide scsi2 (?) on a smart array-2 compaq controller
> > 1x1.05 Seagate .scsi on the onboard controller
> > 1x CDrom on the onboard controller.
> > 2x tokenring-cards (don't know how to use them though)
> > 1x ISA NE2000.
> >
> > I have installed the SoftPaQs for Dos.
> > I can boot from both controllers into dos.
> > But I can't get the CD-rom to work.
> >
> > Here's my config.sys:
> > DEVICE=smartscsi.SYS /D:MSCD000
> > device=fsw2aspi.sys
> > device=fws2cd.sys
> > device=fws2disk.sys
> >
> > And my autoexec.bat:
> > MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD000 /L:E
> >
> > Please bear with me for I DOS not know ;-)
> >
> > Somebody suggested to use the bootfloppies, the compact-flavour, but
that does not find either scsi-controller/harddisk/cdrom.
> >
> > Trying to do it the loadlin-way, got me to the root.bin file, that I
cannot get on a floppy. Thus blocking that road.
> >
> > I even went on compiling a kernel with everything that smells scsi in
it. bzImage reported an error on it being to big.
> > But with just the smart array and all the ram stuff in the kernel, it
wouldn't see the controllers either.(on bootflop).
> >
> > Does anybody have some enlightning suggestions or pointers so that I
need not learn anything (although I did a lot lately).
> >
> > And again thank you for your patience.
> > Regards,
> > Frans Schreuder.
> >
> >
>
>




Re: xmms 1.2.5 package

2001-06-26 Thread Daniel T. Chen
Tom, Josip (the official maintainer) released 1.2.5-1 on Wed, 20 June, at
00:49:08 +0200. Run `apt-get update && apt-get upgrade` to pick up the new
packages.

Cheers,
dtc

---
Dan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPG key: www.cs.unc.edu/~chenda/pubkey.gpg.asc

On 27 Jun 2001, Thomas Hess wrote:

> hello again,
> 
> I'm also looking for a xmms 1.2.5(-final) deb-package.
> 
> Daniel T. Chen: u once gave me the location for your 1.2.5-pre packages,
> if u are still on this list: do u have 1.2.5 packages? I lost the URL and
> your Email-address.



Re: xfree 4.1 packages

2001-06-26 Thread Sebastian Drews
"Thomas Hess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> anyone knows a location for xfree 4.1 deb-packages? thx in advance.

http://www.debian.org/~branden/


Sebastian
-- 
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

Henry Spencer



Re: SOLVED: Defaulting system to mono display

2001-06-26 Thread Karsten Heymann
I needed to deactivate any colors on my mono-terminal (mda
textmode-card). The main point is to set 

TERM=linux-m

when working locally. Grepping /etc for TERM I found 

#TTYTYPE_FILE=/etc/ttytype

in /etc/login.defs. I did as noted there (created /etc/ttytype and
uncommented the ttytype-line but with no effect, so I inserted

TERM=linux-m

into /etc/environment and am happy. 

[...]
> > Again:
> > How do i tell my system that the _textmode console_ is
> > black/white? 
> 
> Don't know for sure, but I'd start looking at the terminal
> configuration.  Looking at the terminfo database, 

And that did it. Thanks, Karsten!

-- 
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Netzwerkverwaltung  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Forschungsstelle für ÖkosystemtechnikUniversität Kiel



Re: OT: C++ Newbie and KDE/QT

2001-06-26 Thread D-Man
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 10:12:56PM +0200, Brendon wrote:
| On Tuesday 26 June 2001 19:14, D-Man wrote:
| > On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 12:06:50PM +0200, Brendon wrote:
| > | Does anyone know of a good site where QT/KDE programming is explained?
| > | And what did you start with when learning C++?
| >
| > I don't use KDE and I don't like Qt's LnF so I don't know about that
| > part.  As for learning C++ -- it is big and complicated and the little
| > details will get you.  I would recommend starting out with an easier
| > language to get the basics of programming down first.  Then move into
| > C++ once you understand how to program.  I highly recommend Python as
| > an easy, powerful, and clean language to learn.  It also allows you to
| > choose the most appropriate paradigm -- you can start out procedurally
| > (simpler) and move into OO (class-based) when you are ready for it.
| > Alan Gauld has an excellent tutorial for beginners at
| > http://www.crosswinds.net/~agauld.  Python also has bindings to Qt
| > (PyQt) so you can do Qt/KDE programming using Python and forget about
| > the headaches that C++ can give you.  If you decide to try python,
| > check out the tutor mailing list, it is very helpful
| > (tutor@python.org, http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor).
| 
| i'll check it out. just another question, what advantages and disadvantages 
| does python have over C++? Also, is C++ really that complicated to learn? In 

Python is dynamically typed.  This means you don't need to type (with
the keyboard, that is) the type (kind) that each identifier will be.
The syntax is clean and really easy to read.  Pointers and memory
management is taken care of for you.  You can use the interactive
interpreter to try small snippets of code and see the result
immediately.  High-level concepts such as lists and dicts are built in
to the language.  A list is like an array that can hold different
kinds of things and will resize when needed.  A dict is also called a
hashtable, map and associative array.  They are _very_ useful.  Also
in Python functions and classes are first class objects.  This
combined with the dynamic typing makes using callbacks (very typical
in GUI programming) quite easy and doesn't involved any extra
complicated syntax.  As a side effect of this many things that are
non-trivial in C or C++ (or even Java) take so few lines of Python
code that it is almost ridiculous.  (For example quite a few Design
Patterns in the GoF book are trivial or built-in to Python while they
have non-trivial C++/Java implementations)

C++ has things like templates, pointers, no built-in lists or dicts.
Also functions are not first class objects.  To handle callbacks a
pointer to a function must be used.  This, combined with static type
checking, makes callbacks harder to use and harder to read.  In C++
you must also deal with memory management.  If you don't "delete"
objects then you have a memory leak.  If you delete it too soon you
will get a segmentation fault later on (if you're lucky!).  Also be
careful not to run off the end of an array, especially while writing
to it.

The other major difference is that Python will give you a stack trace
when you have an error, along with a message telling you what the
error was.  With a compiled language like C or C++,
"Segmentation Fault - core dumped" is all the information you will
get.  Then you need to load the program and core dump into a debugger
to examine the stack trace.  Also with Python the dev cycle is
edit-run.  With C and C++ it is edit-compile-run-load in debugger.

| the learning process i haven't run into any problems (except understanding 
| pointers.. kept on getting confused because of the different uses of  * ). 
| Though when looking at the source of Konverse, i was a little overwhelmed. 
| But I presumed this was because i didnt know how to work with QT.
| 
| > You may also want to try Java.  It is basically C++ with pointers,
| > manual memory management, and freestanding functions removed.  Also
| > the class definition conicides with the declaration (not in 2 separate
| > files).  Its syntax is nearly identical, yet it simplifies quite a few
| > things.  IMO Python is much better designed, much easier to use, and
| > more powerful (and flexible) than Java.
| 
| But also awfully slow was it not? 

Take a look at this report that was in IEEE Computer magazine about a
year ago :
http://wwwipd.ira.uka.de/%7Eprechelt/documents/jccpp_tr.pdf


The key to it is not that C is faster than Python, or something like
that.  The speed of an application is more dependent on the
programmer's skill than it is on the language.  Sure, each Python
statement is slower that a C or C++ statement.  This is obvious since
Python is implemented in C, thus takes several C statements for a
single Python statement.  If you talk about Jython, then Python is
implemented in Java which is implemented in C.  This is all irrelevant
though.  80% of the execution time is spent in 

xmms 1.2.5 package

2001-06-26 Thread Thomas Hess
hello again,

I'm also looking for a xmms 1.2.5(-final) deb-package.

Daniel T. Chen: u once gave me the location for your 1.2.5-pre packages,
if u are still on this list: do u have 1.2.5 packages? I lost the URL and
your Email-address.

tom

-- 
Thomas Hess
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ:112712215



ident spoof ? now what ?

2001-06-26 Thread J.F.Gratton

Hi,

As some people here, I had problems with libpam when I updated my (-Sid-) 
distro yesterday. I did what was suggested, I got my hands on the newest 
version coming from http://incoming.debian.org and everything went OK.


Now there's something funny happening. I'm also running oidentd on the 
server (one of the few ident daemon that supports IP Masquerading. I have 
no choice here since Undernet prevents some ISPs (mine for instance) to get 
on their net without Ident.


Anyway, to make a long story short, somewhere on my system there's a config 
file that says that on IRC my full id should be : 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Now ... 1- What does that, and 2- how do I revert to previous config ?

It's not a oidentd thing by the way. I tried pIdentd, same result (anyway 
oidentd's spoofing feature was off, before you ask).


So how do I put a correct ident there ?

Is it as I suspect a PAM issue ? I swear the only configuration change I 
had lately was the PAM upgrade of yesterday.


Regards,

Jeff



Re: Raid; mkraid /dev/md0_HELP?

2001-06-26 Thread Frans Schreuder
Well you're partially right. I did not recompile (but used the
'install'-
/kernel module 'selector' to get the modules for raid in.)
/I applied kernel-patch-2.2.19 (Preparing to replace
kernel-patch-2.2.19-/raid
/2
/(using kernel-patch-2.2.19-raid_2_all.deb) ...
/Unpacking replacement kernel-patch-2.2.19-raid ...
/Setting up kernel-patch-2.2.19-raid (2) ...)
/Can it be that kernel-patch-2.2.10-raid and ...-2.2.10-raid coexist on my
/system?
/
/installed raidtools-2
/
/There is more?/

Yes there is. Boldly went where probably the donkey went.
I did a clean install.(2.2r0 via FTP)
Got me:
- the 2.2.19 kernel image with raid and linear
- the 2.2.19 kernelpatch 2 all
- raidtools2
- bzip2
- other dependencies..

mkraid gives the same errors.
Still not able to get a clue from the /proc/mdstat (has linear too now)
or from the  /var/log/syslog.

VFS reports an error on IDE1 (can't find ext2 filesystem.. having just
shutted down that machine so more on that.Ok booting it...)

"VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide1(22,65).
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1, or too many
mounted filesystems" (is that possible? by the way).


Regards Frans Schreuder.

- Original Message -
From: "Guy Geens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Raid; mkraid /dev/md0_HELP?


> I had a system crash recently, and I took a good look at my own syslog
> messages and /proc/mdstat. And my own entries look very different from
> yours.
>
> My question is: did you recompile and install the patched kernel?
>
> I suspect that you didn't, and you're trying to use the new-style raid
> tools on a kernel which doesn't support that.
>
> Here are the steps to take:
> 1. Install the kernel source package and kernel-package.
> 2. Apply the patch (see the files in /usr/share/doc/patch-raid-*/ for
>more information).
> 3. Configure (make menuconfig) and compile (make-kpkg kernel_image)
>the kernel. (See man make-kpkg and the documentation in
>/usr/share/doc/kernel-package .)
> 4. Install the resulting package (dpkg -i kernel-image-*.deb).
>
> Post here if you have problems anywhere along the way.
>
> --
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> WWW: http://users.pandora.be/guy.geens/
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Re: headers in mutt

2001-06-26 Thread Alexander Wasmuth
* Marcelo Chiapparini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I am using mutt. When I read a message sometimes appears a lot of stuff in 
> the 
> header. I want only the "From:", "To:" and "Subject:" fields. How can I do 
> that?
> Using the option ignore in the muttrc file seems to be endless, because there 
> is a lot of things to be ignored. I think that is better to tell mutt what to 
> keep instead...

Add this to your ~/.muttrc:

| # Show or suppress headers:
| ignore *
| unignore to: from: subject: reply-to:
| hdr_order from: reply-to: to: subject:

Alex



Re: headers in mutt

2001-06-26 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hi!

Thank you! it worked fine!

On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 03:53:41PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote:
> On 06/26/01 19:40:52 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> > I am using mutt. When I read a message sometimes appears a lot of stuff in 
> > the 
> > header. I want only the "From:", "To:" and "Subject:" fields. How can I do 
> > that?
> > Using the option ignore in the muttrc file seems to be endless, because 
> > there 
> > is a lot of things to be ignored. I think that is better to tell mutt what 
> > to 
> > keep instead...
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What I do is ignore all headers with:
> 
>   ignore *
> 
> Then I uignore the headers I want to see:
> 
>   unignore from: date subject to cc
>   
> HTH!
> -- 
> Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 

-- 
Marcelo Chiapparini
DFT-IF/UERJ
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: headers in mutt

2001-06-26 Thread Mark Wagnon
On 06/26/01 19:40:52 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> I am using mutt. When I read a message sometimes appears a lot of stuff in 
> the 
> header. I want only the "From:", "To:" and "Subject:" fields. How can I do 
> that?
> Using the option ignore in the muttrc file seems to be endless, because there 
> is a lot of things to be ignored. I think that is better to tell mutt what to 
> keep instead...

Hi,

What I do is ignore all headers with:

  ignore *

Then I uignore the headers I want to see:

  unignore from: date subject to cc
  
HTH!
-- 
Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



xfree 4.1 packages

2001-06-26 Thread Thomas Hess
hi,

anyone knows a location for xfree 4.1 deb-packages? thx in advance.

tom

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ICQ:112712215



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headers in mutt

2001-06-26 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hi!

I am using mutt. When I read a message sometimes appears a lot of stuff in the 
header. I want only the "From:", "To:" and "Subject:" fields. How can I do that?
Using the option ignore in the muttrc file seems to be endless, because there 
is a lot of things to be ignored. I think that is better to tell mutt what to 
keep instead...

Thanks in advance for the help!

Marcelo   
-- 
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DFT-IF/UERJ
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Re: Using different DNS per ISP

2001-06-26 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya

in your ppp scripts 

if they give you dynamic ppp and dynamic dhcp...
you probably dont need any of this stuff ???

isp#1
cp /etc/resolv.isp1.conf /etc/resolv.conf
hostname  my_server.isp1.com

isp#2
cp /etc/resolv.isp2.conf /etc/resolv.conf
# hostname dhcp.isp2.com

blah...

have fun
alvin


On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Anthony Campbell wrote:

> On 26 Jun 2001, nico de haer wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Is there a problem why you cna't use dynamic assigned dns servers? (see
> > pppconfig, has that option somewhere...)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Nico de Haer
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:50 AM
> > Subject: Using different DNS per ISP
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > I'm using two different ISPs depending on time of day, and cost.
> > > Problem is that they will only accept their own nameserver under
> > > /etc/resolv.conf. Is there a way around this, or do I need a script
> > > which changes resolv.conf before dialing?



Re: Local Host Name

2001-06-26 Thread Nick Jennings
Looks like your hostname isn't set, you can set by editing the
/etc/hostname file. as well as the cmnd: export HOSTNAME=''

or 

edit your /etc/apache/httpd.conf and add the line

ServerName 

where  is the name you want to be know as by apache.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 07:07:34PM -0300, Juan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After install Apache I get the following error:
> 
> apache: cannot determine local host name
> Use ServerName directive to set it manually.
> /usr/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started
> Configuration failed! Run "apacheconfig" to try this again later.
> 
> My question is: where should I define the Local Host Name? I don't mean the 
> Apache SeverName directive.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Juan José Velázquez Garcia
> Web Development
> www.htmlspider.com.br
> 
> 
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Re: package naming?!

2001-06-26 Thread Joey Hess
Andre Alexander Bell wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I'm using testing and while installing on my system I've noticed some thing 
> about the available package names.
> 
> Examples:
> If you want to _use_ telnet. Install package telnet.
> If you want to _provide_ telnet. Install package telnetd.
> If you want to _use_ ftp. Install package ftp.
> If you want to _provide_ ftp. Install package ftpd.
> If you want to _use_ ssh. Install package ssh.
> If you want to _provide_ ssh...
> 
> Oh, there is no sshd. This is part of ssh. Maybe it would be more convenient 
> if this is the same to all packages. To use the service you can start with 
> the package of the services name. (Sure there are alternatives) If you want 
> to provide a service use d to install the daemon...
> Or is there any problem with this naming convention?

http://bugs.debian.org/39741
http://bugs.debian.org/71864

Have a look at ppp, for a package that breaks your rule of thumb
even more, for very good reasons (ppp is not a client-server protocol,
though most people use it as one, and think of it as one).

-- 
see shy jo



Local Host Name

2001-06-26 Thread Juan

Hi,

After install Apache I get the following error:

apache: cannot determine local host name
Use ServerName directive to set it manually.
/usr/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started
Configuration failed! Run "apacheconfig" to try this again later.

My question is: where should I define the Local Host Name? I don't mean the 
Apache SeverName directive.


TIA,

Juan José Velázquez Garcia
Web Development
www.htmlspider.com.br



Re: apt-get source

2001-06-26 Thread Petr \[Dingo\] Dvorak
thanks for the reply, alias works great :)

Dingo.


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   -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ 369D93 ]=-=-
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Re: More on mutt losing its keymap

2001-06-26 Thread dmaziuk
* Daniel Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
[ the answer I was looking for snipped ]
 
Thank you very much indeed. Yes, I was using vt100, yes, jed and slrn
are not affected -- only mutt, and sure, the bad thing went away as soon
as I fixed terminfo entry. 

That's what I get for being a command-line freak: everyone else is using
xterms and xterm termcaps seem to work fine between linux, irix and 
solaris. I guess I have to sit down and set up linux termcaps on our sun/sgi 
boxen -- using vt100 as I do now is clearly sub-optimal.

Thanks again
Dima
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"That is the sort of arrant pedantry up with which I shall not put."
  -- Dan Birchall and Shmuel Metz in asr



Re: Build a new Kernel

2001-06-26 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 04:54:44PM -0300, Juan wrote:
> How can I build a new kernel?

Generic Linux answer:  Go to google and do a search for "kernel-howto".

Debian-specific answer:  `apt-get install kernel-package`, `cd
/usr/share/doc/kernel-package`, and read the files there.

> Where is the source?

`apt-get install kernel-source-`, `cd /usr/src`, `tar xvIf
kernel-source-.tar.bz2`, `cd kernel-source-`.

-- 
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Re: linux + win95 + grub partition woes

2001-06-26 Thread Timothy H. Keitt
My solution was to move the win 95 partition to the front of the disk. 
Had to reinstall windows, but managed to keep my linux partition with a 
bit of jockying with partitions and ext2resize.


T.

D-Man wrote:


On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 04:30:09PM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote:
| At what point do I unhide the partitions?
| 
| I have something like
| 
| title linux

| unhide (hd0,0)
| ...
| 
| title windows

| hide (hd0,0)
| ...

That looks right to me.  Maybe Carel, or someone else who knows more
than I do will explain it.  They explained it to me last time and the
messages should be in the archive.

-D




--
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Department of Ecology and Evolution
State University of New York at Stony Brook
Stony Brook, New York 11794 USA
Phone: 631-632-1101, FAX: 631-632-7626
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How to get Radeon 3D features working in Sid

2001-06-26 Thread Steve R. Hastings
I successfully got my Radeon working, with 3D acceleration using DRI,
under Debian Unstable.  I wrote up how I did it for Debian Planet.  If
you have a Radeon, take a look at this.  I hope you will find it
helpful.

http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=253


P.S. Tux Racer is a really fun game!  I'm hooked.
-- 
Steve R. Hastings   "Vita est"
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Re: How to install cdrom (Samsung CDR-RW, SW-208; Debian Potato 2.3

2001-06-26 Thread csj
On Monday 25 June 2001 23:40, Stephen Taylor wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions; it still doesn't recognize the cd..
> - if it reads a disk I'll try another console to catch the device -
> but it's apt-get and it may not stay mounted
>
> These don't work:
> - mount /dev/hdb
> - boot: linux ide-scsi=hdb

But does this work:

mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom



Re: manpages page-up and down not working

2001-06-26 Thread krst
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Eric Boo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> How do I at least get page up to work when I'm viewing man pages? Right now 
> all I get are beeps when I try the page-up and page-down keys.
> Page-down isn't so important as I can use the spacebar instead.
> Neither do the up and down arrows work.
> Using SID.
> 
> -- 
> Eric Boo

Try to set $PAGER for less or zless or change symlink to
/etc/alternatives/pager for less or zless

Krzysztof Urbanski.



Re: big IBM harddisk

2001-06-26 Thread csj
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 11:38, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> Good info. I had a 486/66MHz system. I pulled out the huge 350mb
> hard drive and installed my 20Gb wd. The bios seen *something* and
> then I installed debian. Never had a hitch with it.I don't really
> think debian gives a rip what the bios thinks at any rate!

A good reason I think for having a separate /boot directory. There I 
dump kernels from various linux distros and have grub boot them 
even if I mark the second hard drive as Uninstalled in the bios. Also 
allows me to merrily repartition without grub saying it can't find 
its second stage (or something similar).



libpam*

2001-06-26 Thread Robert L. Harris


Ok,
  just redid the distupgrade on my unstable and noticed there's a -27
version of the libpam stuff and all's well...

  One of the things I LOVE about debian is not having to wait weeks for 
fixes (redhat) or months (windows)...  Debian developers are really on
the ball.

Great going,
  Robert


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Re: Installation

2001-06-26 Thread Joost Kooij
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 09:56:11AM -0700, Alan Wu wrote:
> I have downloaded ash_0.3.8-13_i386.deb. How can I proceed to install this
> package?

[snip]

> P.S. My machine:
>   OS: Windows Advanced Server 2000
>   Pentium III

Are you kidding us?  You cannot install linux packages just like that
on windows.  Microsoft does not support it.

Your best try is to install cygwin on your windows machine.  It is free
software, comes with a compiler (IIRC), so you can try to build any
software in debian on your windows system.

Go to http://google.com and type "cygwin".  

Cheers,


Joost



manpages page-up and down not working

2001-06-26 Thread Eric Boo
Hi,

How do I at least get page up to work when I'm viewing man pages? Right now all 
I get are beeps when I try the page-up and page-down keys.

Page-down isn't so important as I can use the spacebar instead.

Neither do the up and down arrows work.

Using SID.

-- 
Eric Boo
Wednesday, June 27, 2001, 04:32 AM
3 minutes

http://magicman.freeshell.org




Re: OT: C++ Newbie and KDE/QT

2001-06-26 Thread Brendon
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 20:16, you wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Brendon wrote:
> > This summer holiday I took on the task of learning C++ with (shamefully
> > :) the help of C++ For Dummies.
> >
> > Having tried to learn C++ in the past I'm now reasonably familar with
> > it's synax so i thought i'd also try learning QT/KDE programming at the
> > same time. But the tutorials I've been through on the doc.trolltech.com
> > site have left me a little disappointed.
> >
> > Does anyone know of a good site where QT/KDE programming is explained?
> > And what did you start with when learning C++?
>
> Have you installed the kdevelop package.  iirc, it comes with a
> tutorial and some other KDE programming material, their site should
> also have some good stuff.

I've tried it. but the tutorial is based on the QT one, basically only giving 
the KDE specific info.



Re: Careers in Linux

2001-06-26 Thread Robert Waldner

>> :Iam finding it very hard to even get looked at by
>> :empolyeers.Basically i have made a career change 1 1/2 years ago
>> :from being a factory worker to supporting pc's (sadly win9x/win2k
>> :for a uk comapany,name withheld to protect my job :-), at least it
>> :got my foot in the door).

Hmm, my experience (ok, not just mine, that goes for at least ~ 40 
 people I know personally, in a small country like .at) your best bet 
 would be looking for a job at an ISP. Preferably somewhat less 
 $VBC-like than AOL or T-online. If you don´t mind doing 
 1st-level-helpdesk for a year or two, this gets not only your foot in 
 the door, but puts you also in very close proximity to the local gurus.

And believe me, nothing´s more valuable than being on good terms (and 
 preferably only one cubicle away from) the local gurus. Cluons (see 
 jargon) tend to emanate from them in high concentrations ;-)

>> Try to leverage that foot in the door, can you work in a cheap linux
>> box to do firewalling, mail, fileserving, intranet webserver, VPN ?
>> 
>> Be creative and see if there's anything you can do with old machines
>> going out of service or a really low end PC, so it won't cost your
>> employer much if anything, and then you'll have "official" linux admin
>> on your CV

If you already know enough for a basic file-/print-/web - server and 
 masquerading box, I think it would be more profitable (and not only to 
 your knowledge level) to aim for very small businesses and admin their 
 firewall-boxes in your spare time. I did (and even do) that for some 
 years now, and it doesn´t exactly look bad on your CV:
"adminning $NUM servers for $NUM customers in spare time"

>Also try to learn at home as much as possible. Networking, mailing,
>firewalling, etc. I would especially take care of things like volume
>management, high availability, shared filesystems (Coda, GFS) and
>other enterprise features. If you have knowledge in this fields, no
>matter on which flavor of unix, you can pick out your
>employer. Scripting is a must, I would recommend python. Try to
>automate with failure checking and everything needed in a production
>environment.

That´s self-explanatory, AOL.

>> :Also I would be inclined as Iam to start playing with something like
>> :Solaris as its more Unix based than say debian/rh/mandrake (if you
>> :know what I mean)

Doesn´t really matter, if you know your way ´round Debian and some of 
 the more horrible (hey, all software sucks) distributions (did anyone 
 say SuSe!?) you´ll catch up with the admin-side of Slowlaris over a 
 single weekend. Been there, done that.

>> All my "important" servers are Sun machines running Solaris, so yes
>> it's important to know.
<...>
I'd go so far as to say the
>> difference between RH and Debian is greater than the difference
>> between Debian and Solaris.

 I second that. Except for AIX[0].

>> That said, they're running Solaris because of the Sun hardware, and
>> Sparc Linux isn't quite where we'd need it to be.
>
>Here the same. No one decides to use solaris, but to use SUN hardware.

obSunHardware: just got a shiny (well, dusty, actually) SS1 for playing 
 ´round (I adminned a Debian/Sparc-box a while ago, but need to get some 
 more recent hands-on-experience), fscking micropolis-harddrive, in the 
 docu there are jumpers for SCSI-terminations, but all hardware sucks, 
 too, so they aren´t present physically. Anyone in .at-land who could 
 provide me with a external SCSI- (8bit, single-ended) terminator?

0: to quote a fellow cow-orker:
   AIX: Space animals ate my UNIX compatibility!

cheers,
&rw
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Re: Custom kernel won't boot - unable to mount root fs

2001-06-26 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 10:01:39PM +0200, Joost Kooij wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 02:07:55PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
>  $ modprobe -c | grep ' block-major-8 '
>  alias block-major-8 sd_mod

Both SCSI support and SCSI disk support are built into the kernel, according
to make menuconfig.  There shouldn't be any modules involved.  (IDE support
is a module, since the only IDE drive is a CD-ROM, but SCSI is internal.)

> My guess is that your kernel does not know what a "scsi disk" is.
> 
> Can you grep for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD in the config for your kernel (if
> you used make-kpkg and installed a kernel-image.deb, it is installed
> as /boot/config-2.4.5)?  It should be set to "y", not "m".

/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.5$ grep CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD .config
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y

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Re: OT: C++ Newbie and KDE/QT

2001-06-26 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Brendon wrote:

> This summer holiday I took on the task of learning C++ with (shamefully :)
> the help of C++ For Dummies.
>
> Having tried to learn C++ in the past I'm now reasonably familar with it's
> synax so i thought i'd also try learning QT/KDE programming at the same time.
> But the tutorials I've been through on the doc.trolltech.com site have left
> me a little disappointed.
>
> Does anyone know of a good site where QT/KDE programming is explained? And
> what did you start with when learning C++?

Have you installed the kdevelop package.  iirc, it comes with a
tutorial and some other KDE programming material, their site should
also have some good stuff.


- Bruce



Re: apt-get source

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Shutko
"Petr [Dingo] Dvorak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> is there any way how i can set up the apt-get source so it unpacks the source
> in /usr/src/ and drops the original tarball in /usr/src ?

(cd /usr/src ; apt-get source whatever)
?

Set up an alias or shell-script to do the cd.

-- 
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Toothpaste never hurts the taste of good scotch.



Re: apt-get source

2001-06-26 Thread Robert Waldner

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:47:15 CDT, "Petr [Dingo] Dvorak" writes:
>is there any way how i can set up the apt-get source so it unpacks the source
>in /usr/src/ and drops the original tarball in /usr/src ?

apt-get source puts whatever you request in the current dir.

just 
  ORIG_DIR=`pwd`; cd /usr/src/; apt-get source <$package>; cd $ORIG_DIR
 does the trick.

IMHO /usr/local/src/ would be more to the FHS, but it´s your system 
 after all ;-)

cheers,
&rw
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Re: vmware on Debian?

2001-06-26 Thread Nuhn Yobiznez

--- Robert Voigt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 25 June 2001 21:54, nico de haer wrote:
> > I use it on Debian 2.2r2 (kernel 2.2.19pre21)
> works fine!
> 
> Can your Windows apps access hardware like USB,
> soundcard, scanner? This 
> would be interesting. A lot of people could use all
> their hardware while 
> running Linux.

It has to be configured on your regular linux machine
first before the virtual machine can access it. I run
vmware on 2.4.4 kernel (UNSUPPORTED by vmware) without
too many problems. It can't access my floppy correctly
(but does do CDROM access from my Plextor SCSI burner,
it doesn't like my Plextor UW SCSI CDROM though).
Other than those problems, I haven't found any
others.yet (just found the floppy problem
yesterday.

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Re: OT: C++ Newbie and KDE/QT

2001-06-26 Thread Brendon
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 19:14, D-Man wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 12:06:50PM +0200, Brendon wrote:
> | Does anyone know of a good site where QT/KDE programming is explained?
> | And what did you start with when learning C++?
>
> I don't use KDE and I don't like Qt's LnF so I don't know about that
> part.  As for learning C++ -- it is big and complicated and the little
> details will get you.  I would recommend starting out with an easier
> language to get the basics of programming down first.  Then move into
> C++ once you understand how to program.  I highly recommend Python as
> an easy, powerful, and clean language to learn.  It also allows you to
> choose the most appropriate paradigm -- you can start out procedurally
> (simpler) and move into OO (class-based) when you are ready for it.
> Alan Gauld has an excellent tutorial for beginners at
> http://www.crosswinds.net/~agauld.  Python also has bindings to Qt
> (PyQt) so you can do Qt/KDE programming using Python and forget about
> the headaches that C++ can give you.  If you decide to try python,
> check out the tutor mailing list, it is very helpful
> (tutor@python.org, http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor).

i'll check it out. just another question, what advantages and disadvantages 
does python have over C++? Also, is C++ really that complicated to learn? In 
the learning process i haven't run into any problems (except understanding 
pointers.. kept on getting confused because of the different uses of  * ). 
Though when looking at the source of Konverse, i was a little overwhelmed. 
But I presumed this was because i didnt know how to work with QT.

> You may also want to try Java.  It is basically C++ with pointers,
> manual memory management, and freestanding functions removed.  Also
> the class definition conicides with the declaration (not in 2 separate
> files).  Its syntax is nearly identical, yet it simplifies quite a few
> things.  IMO Python is much better designed, much easier to use, and
> more powerful (and flexible) than Java.

But also awfully slow was it not? I suppose Python -> Java -> C++ would be 
the right order to learn, considering the apparent ease of python, demand for 
java and complexity of C++. Any comments?


Brendon




emdebed Linux

2001-06-26 Thread Wayne Sitton
I've sent a couple of emails to the emdebian list, but have not gotten any
reply's, So I've decided to go on my own.
I've purchased a yopy, and have started compiling some apps for it, but I
find myself wanting some debian tool(such as apt/dselect).  I'm sure I could
compile both into the yopy's linux, but I want to set up my own source
server for the yopy to connect to.
With only packages I want on yopy.  I do not know how to do this.  Could
someone please either tell me how, or point me to a how-to?

Wayne



unstable broken

2001-06-26 Thread Robert L. Harris


I just upgraded my unstable box.  Now I can't login.  I enter root or any
user at "login: " and immediately get back password rejected, with no 
password prompt.  I booted off a root/rescue disk mounted root on /mnt
and did a "chroot /mnt /bin/bash" then "passwd"  and I get:

passwd: Module is unknown

I reverted libpam-modules, libpam-runtime and libpam0g and I'm fine.

Robert

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Re: Custom kernel won't boot - unable to mount root fs

2001-06-26 Thread Joost Kooij
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 02:07:55PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> I've got a SCSI-based quad P3 system which starts up just fine off the stock
> 2.2.19pre17 kernel from potato, but refuses to boot the 2.4.5 kernel that
> I've built for it.  It dies just after initializing the NET4 subsystem,
> saying:
> 
> NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
> request_module[block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted
> VFS: Cannot open root device "801" or 08:01
> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01

 $ modprobe -c | grep ' block-major-8 '
 alias block-major-8 sd_mod

> The SCSI controller (Adaptec AIC7899) is detected, although it looks like my
> 2.4.5 only detects one channel while the stock 2.2.19pre17 sees two channels.
> But that could just be a difference in how 2.2 and 2.4 report things.

My guess is that your kernel does not know what a "scsi disk" is.

Can you grep for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD in the config for your kernel (if
you used make-kpkg and installed a kernel-image.deb, it is installed
as /boot/config-2.4.5)?  It should be set to "y", not "m".

Cheers,


Joost



Re: Careers in Linux

2001-06-26 Thread Christoph Gaitzsch
"Jonathan D. Proulx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 01:52:02AM +0100, mark wrote:
> :Hi,
> 
> :Iam finding it very hard to even get looked at by
> :empolyeers.Basically i have made a career change 1 1/2 years ago
> :from being a factory worker to supporting pc's (sadly win9x/win2k
> :for a uk comapany,name withheld to protect my job :-), at least it
> :got my foot in the door).
> 
> Luck did have a big part in getting my current position!  I was "the
> guy who knows computers" in my last job (Public Works department of a
> local Municipality), but hat little official responsibility for them.

Similar here. At the university i studied social sciences the
department of mechanical engeneering was looking for a student with
,,programming knowledge´´. OK, I thought, after 7 jears of linux
experience, GEM - Programming on Atari ST, I have ,,programming
knowledge´´. I got the job, it was very bad payed, and I ended up with
13000 lines of C++ - Code (in the biggest program), a very good
attestation, much more knowledge than before and a lifelong job
guarantee. 

> 
> Try to leverage that foot in the door, can you work in a cheap linux
> box to do firewalling, mail, fileserving, intranet webserver, VPN ?
> 
> Be creative and see if there's anything you can do with old machines
> going out of service or a really low end PC, so it won't cost your
> employer much if anything, and then you'll have "official" linux admin
> on your CV
> 

Also try to learn at home as much as possible. Networking, mailing,
firewalling, etc. I would especially take care of things like volume
management, high availability, shared filesystems (Coda, GFS) and
other enterprise features. If you have knowledge in this fields, no
matter on which flavor of unix, you can pick out your
employer. Scripting is a must, I would recommend python. Try to
automate with failure checking and everything needed in a production
environment.

> 
> :Also I would be inclined as Iam to start playing with something like
> :Solaris as its more Unix based than say debian/rh/mandrake (if you
> :know what I mean)
> 
> All my "important" servers are Sun machines running Solaris, so yes
> it's important to know.  But I wouldn't call it "more Unix based"
> exept that Unix is a trademark Linux doesn't wear.  From an admin
> perspective some of the commands behave a little differently (though I
> use the GNU tools mostly so they are the same), and there's a few
> minor differences that can be trouble till you get used to them.  From
> a user view there's even less difference.  I'd go so far as to say the
> difference between RH and Debian is greater than the difference
> between Debian and Solaris.

Except that debian is much better. It´s cleaner, it has a clear
policy, an absolute superior package management and more I can count
here. I work in a major data processing center as a solaris sysadmin,
and I hate solaris. 

> 
> That said, they're running Solaris because of the Sun hardware, and
> Sparc Linux isn't quite where we'd need it to be.

Here the same. No one decides to use solaris, but to use SUN hardware.

Greetings, Christoph



Build a new Kernel

2001-06-26 Thread Juan

Hello,

How can I build a new kernel? Where is the source?

Thanks

Juan José Velázquez Garcia
Web Development
www.htmlspider.com.br



apt-get source

2001-06-26 Thread Petr \[Dingo\] Dvorak
Hey list,

after i spent 30 minutes looking where the last source package unpacked on my
machine, i started to look for a way how to unpack those in specific directory
.. but i guess i'm blind because i can't find it ..

is there any way how i can set up the apt-get source so it unpacks the source
in /usr/src/ and drops the original tarball in /usr/src ?


Thanks,

Dingo.


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Re: More on mutt losing its keymap

2001-06-26 Thread Daniel Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hi all,
> I whined before about mutt losing Up and Dn keys seemingly at
> random. Well, it looks like it's not random after all: keymap gets
> screwed after I telnet/ssh to other boxen on the network. Just now
> it happened after I telnetted to an irix machine and that killed the
> session with ^] - quit.
> 
> Any idea what's happening there? -- I'd like to get this fixed, it's
> very annoying when arrow keys stop working all of a sudden.

Ok, here's my guess:

Your cursor keys are getting stuck in "Cursor Mode" when they should
be in "Application Mode" or vice versa.  Briefly, vt100-like terminals
(such as xterm or the linux console, or that old vt220 rotting in my
parents' spare room) have two modes that cursor keys can be in - one
in which the keys transmit [A, [B, [C and
[D, and one in which they transmit O (that's a capital "o") as
the second character instead of [.  (The reason for this has something
to do with DEC marketing and the transition between the vt52 and
vt100, I think)

Anyway, terminals can be switched between the two modes simply by
getting the appropriate escape codes from the other end.  In an ideal
world, there'd be only one set of codes transmitted by the cursor
keys.  In an almost ideal world, mutt would switch to "Application"
mode on startup, switch back to "Cursor" mode if you spawned a shell
or put it into the background, and then back again to "Apllication"
mode once it either comes back to the foreground or the subprocess
exits.  (Or mutt would expect Cursor mode and switch there)

Now, one of these things is not happening, and from your earlier posts
my guess is that mutt expects the cursor keys to be in "Cursor" mode
and just assumes that they'll be that way.  I make this guess because
each vc initially starts in "Cursor" mode and switches to
"Application" mode only when told.
... ...

Ok, here's what I think the end result is:
1. "Cursor" mode is the "normal" mode; if an application switches the
   keys to "Application" mode, it damn well better switch back.
2. jed can deal with both the "Cursor" and "Application" mode key
   sequences no matter what terminal it's on.  I suspect that jed
   falls back on its own keybindings and isn't dependent on what
   slang tells it.
3. the Linux terminal responds to the vt100 codes that switch cursor
   state.  These codes are NOT documented in the console_codes
   manpage. (though the related codes to switch the numeric keypad
   between numbers and escape sequences are documented)
4. For vt100 (and relatives), the terminfo entry says that the
   key sequence for "up" is Escape-O-A.  The terminfo entry for the
   linux console says that the key sequence for "up" is Escape-[-A

So I'm undecided as to who's to blame here.

If all access to the console was done through the terminfo entries
that Debian has, then all would be fine - no program would ever send
the linux console the control codes to switch into Application mode,
and every application would expect the console to be in Cursor mode.

However, that's not what's happening here - something keeps switching
your arrow keys into Application mode - probably this is some program
on the far end that either has a terminfo entry for linux that says to
do this or is using a vt100 definition for your terminal.  I'll note
that the terminfo entry for vt100 says that applications which expect
to read in movement keys should, on startup, send the codes that
switch the arrow keys to Application mode and cause the numeric keypad
to send escape sequences.  At the end of the application, that same
terminfo entry says that they should send the codes that return the
keypad to just numbers and the arrow keys to Cursor mode.

As a temporary measure, if you've just disconnected and think that
your cursor keys may be messed up, you can do

TERM=vt100 tput rmkx

Your keys should then work the next time you start up mutt.  But what
you probably want is a permanent fix.  The most elegant solution I can
come up with to fix this is to do the following as root:

infocmp linux > /tmp/linux.tic
echo ' smkx=\E[?1l, rmkx=\E?1l,' >> /tmp/linux.tic
tic /tmp/linux.tic
rm /tmp/linux.tic

This will ensure that any application which wishes to use cursor keys
in linux at least has a chance of sending the codes to switch the
console into Cursor mode in case something switched it out.  (Yes, I
do mean for both smkx and rmkx strings to be identical)  You can also
run the same sequence of commands as a non-root user, but that won't
change the system-wide setting.  If you want, before you get rid of
/tmp/linux.tic, you can send it to that IRIX system and use tic there
to teach it about the linux terminal.

Perhaps this adjustment to the terminfo entries for linux could be
sent upstream; I guess filing a bug against ncurses is the way to do
that.[2]

By the way, I found the page
http://www.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/~rohm/computing/mpimf/notes/terminal.html
to be a great little page that explained all 

Re: deselect & aptitude show different packages !!!

2001-06-26 Thread Balbir Thomas
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 06:58:45PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 at 12:52:35 -0500, Balbir Thomas wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 05:57:37PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > Balbir Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >I am using ustable, with kernel 2.4.5. Aptitude shows many more packages 
> > > >than deselect .
> > > 
> > > Have you run 'dselect update' recently, or have you just been using
> > > 'apt-get update'?
> > 
> > Yep , I have done that and do so regularly. Though it should show broken
> > dependencies in any case ?? 
> 
> Well, 'apt-get update' doesn't update dselect's available database,
> hence the question. Beyond that, no idea, sorry ...
> 
You are right that was the problem. I was under the impression that apt
update update a common database which dselect shares.
Thank you 
bt



Re: Pluggin in Galeon

2001-06-26 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Hall Stevenson wrote:

> > Galeon is a great brower but is there any pluggin
> > like flash, java work under it?  Pluggin for network
> > work well (most of the time) just wanna switch to
> > galeon ASAP coz it is cool =)
>
> galeon is to a large extent just a front-end to mozilla (I
> don't mean that negatively towards galeon). Install plug-ins
> for mozilla and they should work with galeon. I don't know if
> galeon has it's own plug-in directory or not, but I don't
> think it does or should. In fact, you *have* to have mozilla
> already installed to use it, so why duplicate plug-ins ??
>
> Also, if there isn't a plug-in specifically for mozilla, ones
> designed for the "old" Netscape browser, navigator, are
> supposed to work.

I've tried both Shockwave 4.0 and 5.0 with mozilla and they works, the same is
for galeon. YMMV but with another debian box i've to disable esound ("esdctl
off") to start mozilla.

Don't know if it's the right place, but trying to put the  libflashplayer.so and
ShockwaveFlash.class under /usr/lib/mozilla-0.9.1/plugins/


Andrea



Re: My voodoo 3...

2001-06-26 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Jonathan Daugherty wrote:

> > I *haven't* created the tdfx device file (/dev/cards/tdfx?), because i
> > can't remember how to (or even what the name of the file is).  I
> > searched on google, without luck.
>
> It's /dev/3dfx, and you don't create it manually.  Get the device3dfx-source 
> package.  Build the deb from that (make-kpkg, it's in the README), and when 
> you
> install the deb, it'll load the module and create the dev entry.
>

You need /dev/3dfx if you want accelerated HW 3D with XFree 3.3.x, if you are 
using XFree 4.0.x (and above) you don't need the /dev/3dfx (or better /dev/3dfx
is not supported, i remember faster than DRI but with some drawbacks: work only 
in full screen and could lock solid the box)...


Andrea




Re: IP ALIAS

2001-06-26 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Dave Sherohman wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 08:05:10PM -0300, Juan wrote:
> > How can I configure an IP ALIAS ?
>
> 1)  Build a kernel with IP aliasing support
> 2)  Assign an address to eth0:0, eth0:1, etc.
>

And, IIRC, in the 2.4.x kernel tree aliasing is default (or better, you will not
find an alias options =)


Andrea



Re: Custom kernel won't boot - unable to mount root fs

2001-06-26 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 02:07:55PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> There's obviously something that I need to include in my kernel, but I've
> double- and triple-checked menuconfig and there's nothing which obviously
> should be required that isn't included.  What am I missing?

OK, I guess there's one thing I hadn't tried:  a stock 2.4.5-686 kernel.  It
dies the same way.  Am I correct to conclude that IBM Netfinity servers and
the 2.4 kernel don't play nicely with each other?

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Irritating eepro100 error

2001-06-26 Thread Andrew J. Perrin
I'm getting lots of this in my messages log:

Jun 26 10:06:36 geingob kernel: eth0: card reports no resources.
Jun 26 10:06:56 geingob last message repeated 9 times

The card is a built-in IBM fast ethernet card, driver eepro100.  It seems
like it's been fixed in the driver version on scyld.com, but I can't get
that to compile. Is anyone using debian with this card successfully?

geingob:/usr/src/eepro# uname -a
Linux geingob 2.2.19pre17 #1 Tue Mar 13 22:37:59 EST 2001 i686 unknown

Thanks.

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Custom kernel won't boot - unable to mount root fs

2001-06-26 Thread Dave Sherohman
I've got a SCSI-based quad P3 system which starts up just fine off the stock
2.2.19pre17 kernel from potato, but refuses to boot the 2.4.5 kernel that
I've built for it.  It dies just after initializing the NET4 subsystem,
saying:

NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
request_module[block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted
VFS: Cannot open root device "801" or 08:01
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01

The SCSI controller (Adaptec AIC7899) is detected, although it looks like my
2.4.5 only detects one channel while the stock 2.2.19pre17 sees two channels.
But that could just be a difference in how 2.2 and 2.4 report things.

There's obviously something that I need to include in my kernel, but I've
double- and triple-checked menuconfig and there's nothing which obviously
should be required that isn't included.  What am I missing?

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Re: Monitor not remembering settings

2001-06-26 Thread Bart Szyszka

This was also one of my problems and i solved it (or i worked arround it) I
run Windows and XWindow in different resolutions. My monitor can 'remember'
14 different settings at the same time.

Hmm... I'm already running Windows and X under different resolutions.

Windows is run under 1024x768 and X under 1280x1024. I'd appreciate
any more suggestions. If I reboot from Linux to Linux, the monitor's
geometry settings will stick just fine, but if I boot to Windows and
back to Linux, the geometry settings are reset.

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Re: single-user mode? strange

2001-06-26 Thread Aquila
The problem is caused by some problems in the libpam* packages.

To boot into single user mode, if you're using lilo, just append "s" to
the end of your image name when you boot, like:

LILO: linux s

It will then boot and ask you for root password, which will work. Then
download the libpam* packages from http://incoming.debian.org/ and
install them with dpkg. Reboot and all should be well.

On 26 Jun 2001 13:47:01 -0400, Daniel Patrick Berdine wrote:
> I recently ran dselect and did an upgrade with unstable which had the
> result that I can't log in at all (typing 'root' at the login promt
> returns Login Incorrect, I don't even get to try the password, similar
> results with the kdm login screen).
> 
> My first thought was to boot into single user mode and try and work things
> out from there, not sure how but it was a place to start.  I searched the
> archives and found several messages saying that to boot into single user
> mode I need to add the 'single' option at my lilo boot: prompt.
> 
> So I tried 'Linux single' 'Linux Single' 'LinuxText single'
> 'LinuxText2.4.3 single' and was inevitablly put into normal multi user
> mode.
> 
> My normal kernel is 2.4.5, but you can see I also tried 2.4.3.
> 
> Any suggestions?  I'm going to try using a boot floppy and such, but I
> would still like to know how to get into single-user mode...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Dan
> 
> P.S.  Please CC responses to my email, thanks
> 
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Re: deselect & aptitude show different packages !!!

2001-06-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 at 12:52:35 -0500, Balbir Thomas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 05:57:37PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Balbir Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >I am using ustable, with kernel 2.4.5. Aptitude shows many more packages 
> > >than deselect .
> > 
> > Have you run 'dselect update' recently, or have you just been using
> > 'apt-get update'?
> 
> Yep , I have done that and do so regularly. Though it should show broken
> dependencies in any case ?? 

Well, 'apt-get update' doesn't update dselect's available database,
hence the question. Beyond that, no idea, sorry ...

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Re: Installation

2001-06-26 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 09:56:11AM -0700, Alan Wu wrote:
> I have downloaded ash_0.3.8-13_i386.deb. How can I proceed to install this
> package?

> P.S. My machine:
>   OS: Windows Advanced Server 2000

debs aren't Windows software.  You'll have to install linux (and preferably
the debian flavor) to use them.  Instructions can be found at
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/#new-inst

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Re: mount (2.4.4)

2001-06-26 Thread Robin Gerard
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 01:38:44PM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 07:43:20PM +, Robin Gerard wrote:
...
> :fatfs : bogus cluster size
> :VFS:can't find a valide MSDOS filesystem on dev 02:00
> :mount:you must specify the filesystem type
. 
> You probably have a raw kernel image on the floppy (no filesystem at
> all).  Try "rdev /dev/fd0" you should get back something like "Root
> device /dev/hda1" if you have a kernel image there.

ok but I can write my boot diskette of the kernel 2.2.17 

> You're probably better off using lilo or another boot loader to boot
> of the HD, boot ing from floppy is Soo tedious :)

I agree with you but I have potato 2.2r2 and an other OS on one 
hdd second master (hdc) and potato 2.2r0 on an other hdd first
master (hda). Lilo boot linux and the other OS on hdc and
I boot linux with a boot diskette on hda.
Can I boot the three systems with lilo ?
I guess that I must use grub to do this.   
> -Jon
> 
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Re: vmware on Debian?

2001-06-26 Thread Robert Voigt
On Monday 25 June 2001 21:54, nico de haer wrote:
> I use it on Debian 2.2r2 (kernel 2.2.19pre21) works fine!

Can your Windows apps access hardware like USB, soundcard, scanner? This 
would be interesting. A lot of people could use all their hardware while 
running Linux.



Re: deselect & aptitude show different packages !!!

2001-06-26 Thread Balbir Thomas
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 05:57:37PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> Balbir Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I am using ustable, with kernel 2.4.5. Aptitude shows many more packages 
> >than deselect .
> 
> Have you run 'dselect update' recently, or have you just been using
> 'apt-get update'?

Yep , I have done that and do so regularly. Though it should show broken
dependencies in any case ?? 



Re: GMC working under Gnome?

2001-06-26 Thread Mart van de Wege
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:54:16 -0400
Chun Kit Edwin Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>   Just wondering if anyone get GMC working under Gnome in unstable.  I
> tried to start it but it gives me the following warning and then quit
> 
> Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation
> 
> 
> Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1
> 
 
> Anyone knows what's happening? And also, I noticed that the Missing
> charsets in FontSet creation error happen very often.  Any hints on how
> to fix it?
> 
Funny that you should mention it. I *have* seen behaviour like this
before, but the other way around. I have been trying to get my system to
talk dutch to my flatmate (she has an account of her own), and I ran into
the problem that dutch was defined as nl_NL.ISO-8859-1 in
/etc/locale.alias, but as nl_NL.ISO8859-1 in
/usr/X11/lib/locale/locale.alias (note the missing dash). Fooling around
with those config files is slowly bringing me nearer to a dutch system
here, so maybe your gmc failing is related?

Mart


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single-user mode? strange

2001-06-26 Thread Daniel Patrick Berdine
I recently ran dselect and did an upgrade with unstable which had the
result that I can't log in at all (typing 'root' at the login promt
returns Login Incorrect, I don't even get to try the password, similar
results with the kdm login screen).

My first thought was to boot into single user mode and try and work things
out from there, not sure how but it was a place to start.  I searched the
archives and found several messages saying that to boot into single user
mode I need to add the 'single' option at my lilo boot: prompt.

So I tried 'Linux single' 'Linux Single' 'LinuxText single'
'LinuxText2.4.3 single' and was inevitablly put into normal multi user
mode.

My normal kernel is 2.4.5, but you can see I also tried 2.4.3.

Any suggestions?  I'm going to try using a boot floppy and such, but I
would still like to know how to get into single-user mode...

Thanks,

-Dan

P.S.  Please CC responses to my email, thanks



Re: Starting with XML

2001-06-26 Thread burningclown

I don't know if it has been mentioned but you can also check out the
package xae, which is an emacs-based XML IDE, by the same person who
wrote jde (an emacs Java IDE).

-Glenn

On 26 Jun 2001, Ilya Martynov wrote:

>
> ER> I recommend.
> ER> apt-get install emacs20
> ER> apt-get install psgml
> ER> Psgml parses XML and gives it color. With a DTD you can find out what
> ER> elements are valid.
> ER> I think there is also a debian-sgml list.
>
> You have forgotten
>
> apt-get install tdtd
>
> :)
>
> Without it emacs doesn't provide DTD edition mode.
>
>

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Re: IBM Java 1.3 - Anyone get to work?

2001-06-26 Thread Eric Richardson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to get DB2 to install and run on my Debian box.  One of the
> programs it needs is java.  IBM is highly recommending that you install and
> run their version of java.  I have pulled down the .rpm for it and
> installed it both as a rpm and as a deb (not at the same time).  Anyway, no
> matter which way I install it. running any programs that use java (i.e.
> db2cc) complain that libjava.so can not be found.
> 
> I have added the path to /etc/ld.so.conf where libjava.so is founc, but to
> no avail.  I also tried adding symbolic links to the .so files to
> /usr/local/lib.   This did not work either.
I recommend jdk1.3 from blackdown.
deb ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian
potato non-free
apt-get install j2sdk1.3

JAVA_HOME will be /usr/lib/j2sdk1.3 and the installer handles all the
/etc/alternative stuff. the symlinks are like /usr/bin/java ...

Have fun,
Eric



Re: Pluggin in Galeon

2001-06-26 Thread Chun Kit Edwin Lau
Hi

So will plugger works under galeon as well?

Edwin Lau


On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 12:45:00PM -0400, Leo Laursen wrote:
> "Chun Kit Edwin Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > Galeon is a great brower but is there any pluggin like flash, java work
> > under it?  Pluggin for network work well (most of the time) just wanna
> > switch to galeon ASAP coz it is cool =)
> > 
> It seems to use Mozilla plugins in /usr/lib/moxilla/plugins
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] % ls /usr/lib/mozilla-0.9.1/plugins 
>{ ~ }
> javaplugin.so  libflashplayer.so  libnullplugin.so  ShockwaveFlash.class
> 
> I do have some java and flash in Galeon, automagically.
> 
> Leo

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Re: Unidentified subject!

2001-06-26 Thread Mart van de Wege
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:36:06 +0200
Mart van de Wege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, it seems like this is one of those weeks. Just did an upgrade
> (running sid), saw some pam packages being upgrade, and now I can't log
> in
> to my desktop machine anymore. It even refuses ssh connections from my
> laptop. Thank $WHOEVER that I had a shell running on a virtual console,
> but aside from that? He's dead Jim.
> Anyone else see this? should I rush out and file a bug for this, or will
> it be fixed tomorrow, so just upgrading will fix it?
> 
> Mart
> 
Ok,

Thanks all for the quick reaction. Sorry for the Subject line, but I send
all my mail through my desktop machine, and it seems that postfix uses
pam, as it stopped accepting connections from the laptop as well, so
after the original message failed, I just changed the smtp host in
Sylpheed, pasted the text into a new message and resent without checking
the subject. As I said, it turns out to be of *those* weeks :(
Also thanks to Sam for being on the ball and fixing this quick.

Mart



Re: Starting with XML

2001-06-26 Thread Ilya Martynov

ER> I recommend.
ER> apt-get install emacs20
ER> apt-get install psgml
ER> Psgml parses XML and gives it color. With a DTD you can find out what
ER> elements are valid.
ER> I think there is also a debian-sgml list.

You have forgotten

apt-get install tdtd 

:)

Without it emacs doesn't provide DTD edition mode.

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SID USERS READ THIS!

2001-06-26 Thread D-Man

This message is for all sid users who have a broken PAM :

The message referenced below was sent to debian-devel-announce last
night.  It is from the PAM maintainer and explains what happened and
how to fix your system.  Read it, then go subscribe to
debian-devel-announce so you get these sort of announcements.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0106/msg00011.html

Sorry for the tone of this message, but it is rather annoying to see
numerous threads on debain-user repeating the same "how do I fix
unstable" question when the answer was already sent by the maintainer
(not to mention several different techniques already discussed on
-user).

-D



Re: Installation

2001-06-26 Thread Hall Stevenson
> I have downloaded ash_0.3.8-13_i386.deb. How can
> I proceed to install this package?
>
> Thanks
>
> Alan Y. Wu
> Senior NT Systems Engineer
> Camstar Systems, Inc.
> 900 Hamilton Avenue
> Campbell, CA 95008
>
> P.S. My machine:
> OS: Windows Advanced Server 2000
> Pentium III

Step 1: Install Debian Linux or a distro based on Debian
Step 2: At a command prompt, type "dpkg --install
ash_0.3.8-13_i386.deb" and then hit your "Enter" key.

Hall



Re: Starting with XML

2001-06-26 Thread Eric Richardson
Victor wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In my job I now need to transfer data between application using XML.
> 
> As an absolute beginner in this field I'm asking you the very very
> basic of XML.
> 
> As far as I know having leafed through debian documentation XML as a
> tagged language is a subset of SGML therefore:
> 
> 1) What deb packages should I install to build and view XML documents?
Check out the following packages.

http://packages.debian.org/stable/text

I recommend.
apt-get install emacs20
apt-get install psgml
Psgml parses XML and gives it color. With a DTD you can find out what
elements are valid.
I think there is also a debian-sgml list.

> 
> 2) Where can I find documentation both on the packages themselves and,
> above all, on XML?
http://www.w3.org/ is a good place to start

Hope this helps,
Eric



Re: OT: C++ Newbie and KDE/QT

2001-06-26 Thread D-Man
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 12:06:50PM +0200, Brendon wrote:
| This summer holiday I took on the task of learning C++ with (shamefully :) 
| the help of C++ For Dummies. 
| 
| Having tried to learn C++ in the past I'm now reasonably familar with it's 
| synax so i thought i'd also try learning QT/KDE programming at the same time. 
| But the tutorials I've been through on the doc.trolltech.com site have left 
| me a little disappointed. 
| 
| Does anyone know of a good site where QT/KDE programming is explained? And 
| what did you start with when learning C++?

I don't use KDE and I don't like Qt's LnF so I don't know about that
part.  As for learning C++ -- it is big and complicated and the little
details will get you.  I would recommend starting out with an easier
language to get the basics of programming down first.  Then move into
C++ once you understand how to program.  I highly recommend Python as
an easy, powerful, and clean language to learn.  It also allows you to
choose the most appropriate paradigm -- you can start out procedurally
(simpler) and move into OO (class-based) when you are ready for it.
Alan Gauld has an excellent tutorial for beginners at
http://www.crosswinds.net/~agauld.  Python also has bindings to Qt
(PyQt) so you can do Qt/KDE programming using Python and forget about
the headaches that C++ can give you.  If you decide to try python,
check out the tutor mailing list, it is very helpful
(tutor@python.org, http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor).

You may also want to try Java.  It is basically C++ with pointers,
manual memory management, and freestanding functions removed.  Also
the class definition conicides with the declaration (not in 2 separate
files).  Its syntax is nearly identical, yet it simplifies quite a few
things.  IMO Python is much better designed, much easier to use, and
more powerful (and flexible) than Java.  

-D



Re: Can't login, won't ask for password

2001-06-26 Thread Stephen Waters
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:49:23 Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Stephen" == Stephen Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Stephen> I got bit by this one, too. Here's how I went diagnosing
> Stephen> it: ## to get list of recent changed logs # ls -ltr
> 
> Sorry about this; fix at
> http://incoming.debian.org/libpam-modules_0.72-26_i386.deb.

Hey, no sweat man. I run unstable as a learning experience. :-) oh, i think
you meant 0.72-27, right?

I went ahead and subscribed to devel-announce as another person suggested
in this thread.

-s



Installation

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Wu
Hello,

I have downloaded ash_0.3.8-13_i386.deb. How can I proceed to install this
package?

Thanks

Alan Y. Wu
Senior NT Systems Engineer
Camstar Systems, Inc.
900 Hamilton Avenue
Campbell, CA 95008

P.S. My machine:
OS: Windows Advanced Server 2000
Pentium III



Re: deselect & aptitude show different packages !!!

2001-06-26 Thread Colin Watson
Balbir Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am using ustable, with kernel 2.4.5. Aptitude shows many more packages 
>than deselect .

Have you run 'dselect update' recently, or have you just been using
'apt-get update'?

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: gnome quicklaunch

2001-06-26 Thread D-Man
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 08:04:43PM -0400, Jacob Stowell wrote:
| Hello, 
| 
| I am having a problem and was wondering if someone might be able to help
| me out. I have a quicklaunch applet on my gnome panel. Interestingly,
| when i start xterm or axyftp from the quicklaunch, /root shows up as the
| default home directory:
| 
| satchel[/root]% 

No, that is not "the default home directory".  If it was you would see
"~", not "/root" as the path.  It is the "default /current working/
directory".

| I tried removing ~/.gnome/quicklaunch completely and creating a new one,
| but ran into the same problem.  I also removed it from the panel, shut
| down and placed a fresh quicklauncher with the same result. I thought
| that it may be a permissions problem and I did a recursive chmod 770
| ~/.gnome to give user access to the necessary directories.  Again, this
| approach failed.
| 
| What is strange is that when I start quicklaunch_applet from a console
| as user, it places the launcher on the panel, and when i open xterm or
| axyftp the default is my home directory:
| 
| satchel[~]%
| 
| I am not sure why this is happening, 

Probably a session thing.  For some reason it was probably started or
has a default config file somewhere with /root as the current
directory.  The next time it is run it uses the same.  Maybe it has
the default of using root's home directory?  Maybe it is run by root
(during startup of system) and thinks it should use $HOME (/root) as
the default dir, but when you run it later as joeuser it uses $HOME
(/home/joeuser) as the current directory.  I don't know why it would
do that, just some speculation on the matter.

You can probably find a config file (maybe ~/.gnome/quicklanuch) where
the current working directory is installed and you can set it to what
you want.  It may even allow configuring by right clicking on the
applet and select "Properties" in the menu.  I'm really not sure
because I don't use that applet (in fact, at the moment I hardly have
any applets because gnome-applets isn't in woody).

-D



Re: Can't login, won't ask for password

2001-06-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Stephen" == Stephen Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Stephen> I got bit by this one, too. Here's how I went diagnosing
Stephen> it: ## to get list of recent changed logs # ls -ltr

Sorry about this; fix at
http://incoming.debian.org/libpam-modules_0.72-26_i386.deb.



Re: linux + win95 + grub partition woes

2001-06-26 Thread D-Man
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 04:30:09PM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote:
| At what point do I unhide the partitions?
| 
| I have something like
| 
| title linux
| unhide (hd0,0)
| ...
| 
| title windows
| hide (hd0,0)
| ...

That looks right to me.  Maybe Carel, or someone else who knows more
than I do will explain it.  They explained it to me last time and the
messages should be in the archive.

-D



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