[TR] Fitxers que m'agencio

2001-07-08 Thread Antoni Bella Perez

 De moment n'agafo tres seguint amb la meva norma de fer el directori arrel i 
anar profunditzant més endavant:

webwml/english/contact.wml
webwml/english/search.wml
webwml/english/sitemap.wml

 Aquest últim la web diu que està traduida al català però no es aixins, ja 
direu.

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Re: [TR] Re: [miquel@sindominio.net: traduit el contracte social i les dfsg]

2001-07-08 Thread isard
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Miquel Vidal wrote:

  Encoratgem els fabricants de CDs = Encoratgem als fabricants de CDs
 
 nope, encoratjar és transitiu, per tant va sense preposició.

Exacte.

  patch files = pedaços
 
 vaig dubtar molt perque coneixia la solució proposta per termcat
 (pedaç): aixi doncs patch files serien pedaços d'arxiu!!! :-/

Noo. :-) Seria arxius pedaç; és a dir, arxius que s'usen com a
pedaç. Pedaços d'arxiu seria *file patches*. Curiós l'anglés. :-)


Salut

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Re: [TR] Re: [miquel@sindominio.net: traduit el contracte social i les dfsg]

2001-07-08 Thread isard
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Jordi Mallach wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 12:56:54AM +0200, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote:
patch files = pedaços
  No, no?. Jo trobo pedaç == parche == patch. Em sona que ho va acceptar
  el TErmCAt...
 ca  pedaç, m   
 en  patch   
  Mmm... LA definició és molt rara, però les correspondències amb altres 
  llengües lliguen. 
 
 Hm, em sona extranyissim, serà que mai ho he sentit. Be, acceptem barco?
 :P

A mi em sona bé. A més, és açò mateix: un tros de codi que va sobre el
codi anterior (igual que un tros de tela que va sobre la peça de roba).
Més encara, tenim un verb que tradueix ·to patch·: *apedaçar*. 


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Ara per ara prou amb releases?

2001-07-08 Thread Ignasi Tura
Vaig acabar webwml/english/releases/index.wml fa uns dies, i considero que
no paga la pena traduïr ara per ara els apartats corresponents a les
versions més velles (incloent, apart de slink i hamm, la mateixa potato) si
volem tenir-ho tot plegat per a woody.

Us sembla bé? Si és així, ja puc enviar-lo a en Jordi.

Ara em quedo amb el dubte sobre que traduïr més, ja m'estic començant a
liar... :)

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Re: [TR] Consideracions sobre traducció de releases

2001-07-08 Thread Ignasi Tura
A Divendres 06 Juliol 2001 01:32, Ignasi Tura va escriure:

  La distribució frozen (congelada) és una distribució aspirant a ser la
  pròxima distribució llançada com a estable.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure:
  La distribució frozen (congelada) és una la aspirant a ser la
  pròxima distribució llançada com a estable.

Home, o és una o és la. Jo em vaig quedar sorprès a l'anar traduïnt de
trobar-me amb la que és ara la versió original:

The ``frozen'' distribution is _a_ release candidate as the next ``stable''
distribution.  

Així, qualsevol diria que n'hi ha diverses. Però jo no discuteixo res al 
redactat original, no sóc tècnic!

Salut,

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Duda Xfree

2001-07-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hola,

El 80% de las veces configuro las X, con el XF86Setup de potato o en la 
instalación con el anXious, pero hay ciertas tarjetas SiS 630 las cuales no las 
detecta el anXious, y el XF86Setup solo salen rayas y no se puede configurar, 
la única manera es con el xf86config, con ese nunca falla, pero no se que 
archivo modificar para que por defecto me arranque a 16 bits... que le muevo, 
es que a 8 bits no se ve muy bien el gnome y el kde... :).

Muchas gracias por la ayuda.



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Problema KDE

2001-07-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hola de nuevo.. :(,

El kde no me gunciona...

con startx, y con el kdm me pasa lo mismo... empieza a cargar el kde y no logra 
terminar el proceso, me sale lo siguiente:

DCOPServer up and running.

waiting for X server to shut down kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed

kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children
KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1
kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit: Exit.

Que será??, instale kdebase y los recomendados unicamente.. hay algo mas...

Muchas gracias por la ayuda que me puedan brindar..






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Re: Duda Xfree

2001-07-08 Thread Fabian Arias

El el /etc/X11/XF86Config (xfree86 3.3.6):

...
Section Screen
Driver  svga
Device  SiS 630
Monitor Monitor
DefaultColorDepth   16  -- esa linea
Subsection Display 

En el /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (Xfree86 4+)
...
Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Generic Video Card
Monitor Generic Monitor
DefaultDepth16 - esa linea
SubSection Display

Adios.


On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hola,
 
 El 80% de las veces configuro las X, con el XF86Setup de potato o en la 
 instalación con el anXious, pero hay ciertas tarjetas SiS 630 las cuales no 
 las detecta el anXious, y el XF86Setup solo salen rayas y no se puede 
 configurar, la única manera es con el xf86config, con ese nunca falla, pero 
 no se que archivo modificar para que por defecto me arranque a 16 bits... que 
 le muevo, es que a 8 bits no se ve muy bien el gnome y el kde... :).
 
 Muchas gracias por la ayuda.
 
 
 
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Re: Duda Xfree

2001-07-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:) muchas gracias, perdon por mi torpeza O:).

Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 11:59:26 -0400 (CLT)
 Fabian Arias [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: 
 debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Re: Duda Xfree

El el /etc/X11/XF86Config (xfree86 3.3.6):

...
Section Screen
Driver  svga
Device  SiS 630
Monitor Monitor
DefaultColorDepth   16  -- esa linea
Subsection Display 

En el /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (Xfree86 4+)
...
Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Generic Video Card
Monitor Generic Monitor
DefaultDepth16 - esa linea
SubSection Display

Adios.


On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hola,
 
 El 80% de las veces configuro las X, con el XF86Setup de potato o en la 
 instalación con el anXious, pero hay ciertas tarjetas SiS 630 las cuales no 
 las detecta el anXious, y el XF86Setup solo salen rayas y no se puede 
 configurar, la única manera es con el xf86config, con ese nunca falla, pero 
 no se que archivo modificar para que por defecto me arranque a 16 bits... 
 que le muevo, es que a 8 bits no se ve muy bien el gnome y el kde... :).
 
 Muchas gracias por la ayuda.
 
 
 
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 Cartago - Colombia
 
 
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RE: Problem loading KDE

2001-07-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, i am very stupid...

old .xinitrc

kdeinit

new .xinitrc

kde2

:) that is all


I am very hapy, thanks!!!


Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 08:32:54 -0700
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-kde@lists.debian.org Problem 
 loading KDE


Hi, my name is Ricardo

Excuseme, i don't speak english.

I'm desperate, KDE not load.

--
DCOPServer up and running.

waiting for X server to shut down kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed

kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children
KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1
kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit: Exit.


Only install whit $ apt-get install kdebase

What does it pass? 

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reciclar paquetes.

2001-07-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hola, en un pc he dist-upgradeado mi debian potato r0 e instalado el kde, el 
cache del apt no lo he tocado estan ahi todos los paquetes, no tengo red asi 
que podría coger el disco que tiene los paquetes y copiarlos al otro que tiene 
instalada la r0 unicamente.. que archivos fuera de los paquetes debo copia o 
modificar..??

Muchas Gracias


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Re: Galeon.No funciona

2001-07-08 Thread Amaya
Humberto dijo:
 La aplicación /usr/bin/galeon-bin ha fallado debido a un error fatal
 (violacion de segmentO)

Haz un strace, igual está intentando abrir un archivo o librería que no existe.
Eso ya te daría más pistas. ¿Qué versión de Galeon tienes?

 Tengo Ximian Gnome y Mozilla 0.9.1

Yo tengo estas líneas en el sources.list, con Ximian Gnome, y me va de lujo:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep galeon
#deb ftp://galeon.sourceforge.net/pub/galeon/nightly/debian galeoncvsm18/
#deb-src ftp://galeon.sourceforge.net/pub/galeon/nightly/debian galeoncvsm18/
deb ftp://galeon.sourceforge.net/pub/galeon/nightly/debian galeon/
deb-src ftp://galeon.sourceforge.net/pub/galeon/nightly/debian galeon/
deb http://galeon.ufies.org/galeon/ sid/

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Re: Instalacion de un servidor ...como particionar el disco duro?

2001-07-08 Thread Amaya
Jaume Sabater dijo:
 /dev/hda3 1G  /var

Me parece muy poco darle 1GB a /var si va a alojar el correo de la gente (que
se come mucho disco) y los paquetes que te bajes con apt. Por no hablar de logs
que también ocupan mucho la final... Teniendo 40 GB, sé generoso con tu /var
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Re: reciclar paquetes.

2001-07-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
el apt-move me serviria para esto alguien lo ha manejado alguna vez??

thanx

 debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 Sun, 08 Jul 2001 09:54:39
 reciclar paquetes.
Hola, en un pc he dist-upgradeado mi debian potato r0 e instalado el kde, el 
cache del apt no lo he tocado estan ahi todos los paquetes, no tengo red asi 
que podría coger el disco que tiene los paquetes y copiarlos al otro que tiene 
instalada la r0 unicamente.. que archivos fuera de los paquetes debo copia o 
modificar..??

Muchas Gracias


Ricardo Rodríguez
Cartago - Colombia



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Re: reciclar paquetes.

2001-07-08 Thread MaX in the FaX
Alle ore 18:54, domenica 08 luglio 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 Hola, en un pc he dist-upgradeado mi debian potato r0 e instalado el
 kde, el cache del apt no lo he tocado estan ahi todos los paquetes,
 no tengo red asi que podría coger el disco que tiene los paquetes y
 copiarlos al otro que tiene instalada la r0 unicamente.. que archivos
 fuera de los paquetes debo copia o modificar..??

es bastante facil..

se tiene que crear una structura así:

.disk (directory)
.disk/info (fichero de testo con el nombre de el cdcorto!)
dists   (symlink -- debian/dists)
debian/dists/TU-PAQUETES

con un terminal entra en debian/dists y executa esto comando:

# dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null  Packages ; gzip -c9 Packages  
Packages.gz

grabar el cd...and enjoy!!

para grabar el cd se tiene que crear una imagine iso con esta forma (un 
poco rara en verdad :)

# cd nombre-directorio de el futuro cd
# mkisofs -v -r -T -J -V NombreCD  -o ../imagine.iso .

Cuidato! es muy importante el punto final!

para grabar el cd con esta imagine es una tonteria:

# cdrecord -v -eject speed=X dev=x,y,z imagine.iso

# cdrecord -scanbus 
para mirar el x,y,z, y X es la velocidad de tu grabadora.


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Re: reciclar paquetes.

2001-07-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gracias por la respuesta tan rapida..

 MaX in the FaX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: reciclar paquetes.Date: Sun, 8 Jul 
 2001 18:50:21 +0200

Alle ore 18:54, domenica 08 luglio 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 Hola, en un pc he dist-upgradeado mi debian potato r0 e instalado el
 kde, el cache del apt no lo he tocado estan ahi todos los paquetes,
 no tengo red asi que podría coger el disco que tiene los paquetes y
 copiarlos al otro que tiene instalada la r0 unicamente.. que archivos
 fuera de los paquetes debo copia o modificar..??

es bastante facil..

se tiene que crear una structura así:

.disk (directory)
.disk/info (fichero de testo con el nombre de el cdcorto!)
dists   (symlink -- debian/dists)
debian/dists/TU-PAQUETES

con un terminal entra en debian/dists y executa esto comando:

# dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null  Packages ; gzip -c9 Packages  
Packages.gz


Si configurara el sources.list para que me mirara en este directorio desde ahi 
podría instalarlos?? sin necesidad de copiarme un cd..?

de todos modos lo voy a intentar.. :)


grabar el cd...and enjoy!!

para grabar el cd se tiene que crear una imagine iso con esta forma (un 
poco rara en verdad :)

# cd nombre-directorio de el futuro cd
# mkisofs -v -r -T -J -V NombreCD  -o ../imagine.iso .

Cuidato! es muy importante el punto final!

para grabar el cd con esta imagine es una tonteria:

# cdrecord -v -eject speed=X dev=x,y,z imagine.iso

# cdrecord -scanbus 
para mirar el x,y,z, y X es la velocidad de tu grabadora.


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Re: reciclar paquetes.

2001-07-08 Thread MaX in the FaX
Alle ore 21:13, domenica 08 luglio 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Gracias por la respuesta tan rapida..

estoy connectato a tu maquina!!  ;-)

 # dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null  Packages ; gzip -c9 Packages 
 Packages.gz

 Si configurara el sources.list para que me mirara en este directorio
 desde ahi podría instalarlos?? sin necesidad de copiarme un cd..?

esto comando es importante para crear el Packages y el Packages.gz

dselect va a buscar esto fichero y no el directorio... in realidad 
Packages es una base de datos.

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Ximian Gnome

2001-07-08 Thread Miguel Angel

Hola gente, tras muchos apt-get he conseguido instalar
el Ximian Gnome y funciona casi... se empeña en _no_
usar el gestor de ventanas sawfish  (por cierto que el
sawmill no hay manera de instalarlo).  De momento está
usando el gestor del XFCE (pq he desinstalado todos lo
demás y no le queda otra opción).   ¿Cómo arreglo esto
para que funcione como es debido?  Gracias desde ya.

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Re: Ximian Gnome

2001-07-08 Thread Miquel Vidal
Miguel Angel dijo:

 
   Hola gente, tras muchos apt-get he conseguido instalar
   el Ximian Gnome y funciona casi... se empeña en _no_
   usar el gestor de ventanas sawfish  (por cierto que el
   sawmill no hay manera de instalarlo).  

sawfish es el reemplazo de sawmill (hubo problemas legales con el nombre
sawmill, que al parecer estaba previamente registrado, y se cambió por
el de sawfish).

instala tb sawfish-gnome. Seguramente tienes por defecto otro gestor,
por eso se empeña en no usar sawfish: añade sawfish a tu xinitrc o a tu
xsession.

 De momento está
   usando el gestor del XFCE (pq he desinstalado todos lo
   demás y no le queda otra opción).   ¿Cómo arreglo esto
   para que funcione como es debido?  Gracias desde ya.

# apt-get install sawfish sawfish-gnome gdm

si no quieres gdm, invoca a sawfish desde tu $HOME/~xinitrc junto a
'gnome-session', por ejemplo asi:

exec gnome-session
sawfish 

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Re: Debian en un 486

2001-07-08 Thread Patricio Calderon
On Saturday 07 July 2001 07:11, AYMA Agua y Medio Ambiente wrote:
 Hola,

 ha caido en mis manos una CPU 486 a 66 MHz, con 32 MB de RAM y dos discos
 de 200 y 500 MB. Me gustaría experimentar con el, y usarlo como servidor en
 una minired (tengo otros dos equipos, uno con Win 2000 y otro con Potato).

 ¿Alguien sería tan amable de indicarme que versiones sería más conveniente
 instalar en ese equipo? Tengo conexión a internet por cable, así que me
 puedo permitir montar casi de todo, y es lo que me gustaría, poder
 experimentar a fondo, aunque no preciso prestaciones para dar servicio
 simultáneo a muchos usuarios (en realidad sólo a dos .-).

 Saludos

 Juan
holas
yo tengo un 486 con 20 en ram y disco de 10 gigas
le instale potato r2 y ningun problema lo uso para samba nfs
y masquerade 

adios 
y suerte



Instalacion de Debian.

2001-07-08 Thread juan




Saludos a la 
lista

Despues de varios fracasos logre 
instalar Debian en mi pc,no obstante ahora tendre que hacerle unos ajustes 
finos,asi que ahi van mis consultas:

Como hago para que la pc arranque en 
modo consola?,ya que por ahora se me presenta el xdm.tendre que editar unos 
ficheros?,cuales?..
Tambien se me presentaron problemas con 
el teclado ya que lo tengo en espaol
habra alguna utilidad para configurarlo 
correctamente?,por ahora lo tengo configurado como teclado de usa,con los 
inconvenientes que esto acarrea.
Por otra parte la conexion a internet me 
ha fallado,lo intente hacer con wvdial(ya que vengo de SuSE,me parecio mas 
amigable)no obstante esto me fallo(no se porque)se que esta pppconfig o halgo 
asi(ahora no recuerdo),que me pide los dns primarios y secundarios,ahora bien 
teniendo yo un proveedor dial-up o de acceso telefonico por moden hace falta 
poner estos datos?,
Siguiendo con el tema de la red como hago para que un 
usuuario normal po ejemplo juan tenga acceso al moden?,tendre que editar algun 
fichero?,cual?
Por ultimo quisiera saber si la copia 
que tengo de Debian instalada en mi pc se puede (o debe) registrar en www.debian.org .
Ahora si me despido y pido disculpas por 
la longitud de mi mensaje pero las dudas me aquejan :(
Saludos...
Juan Ortiz



Re: ELÄNDES LJUDSTRUL

2001-07-08 Thread Martin Juhlin
Hej

Ditt Sound dma time out error låter som att du har 
något isa kort felinställt i din dator, något pci kort 
och ett isa som har samma adresser. Jag föreslår att du 
gör följande : 

1) Välj att du har ett icke pnp-os samt att du vill 
manuellt fördela irq och dma adresser, alltså låt inte 
biosen eller linux/windows ställa in irq etc.

2) Reservera dom dma och irq som dina isa kort 
använder, det finns säkert en lista under /proc 
någonstans om vilka kort som använder vilka irq. Vet 
dock ej vilken och kan tyvärr inte kolla just nu. Men 
reservera inte mer än nödvändigt.

För att göra en gissning skall du säkert reservera irq 
5 och dma 1 till isa och resten till pci, men kolla upp 
det föresäkerhetsskull.

Om inte detta löser det vet jag inte ... men informera 
gärna user-swedish listan isf om vilka kort du har i 
din dator och vilka som är pci/isa och hur dina irq och 
dma är fördelade

MvH
Martin



HMM.

2001-07-08 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hej!
LOvade att jag skulle återkomm med mina ljudproblem och ev ösningar.
Att stänga av pnp i  bios blir svårt eftersom min lilla
punktskriftsdisplay inte är hårdvarustyrd.
Men vist kan jag stänga av pnp i Linux ja, det är ju inga problem.
Fast det ser ut om om både irq och dma är rätt och allt är frid och fröjd.
Dock funkar vissa wavfiler men inte andra, och vissa program men inte
andra.
Det här är ett mycket lustigt ljudproblem.
Här kommer min irq och dma lista.
   CPU0   
  0: 128412  XT-PIC  timer
  1:   3024  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  3:  15702  XT-PIC  serial
  5:  1  XT-PIC  soundblaster
 13:  1  XT-PIC  fpu
 14:  17528  XT-PIC  ide0
 15:  18787  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0
ERR:  0
Dma fil
 1: SoundBlaster8
 4: cascade
 5: SoundBlaster16
Visst ser det väl tämligen rätt ut.
Fattar inte vad som är fel.
Men nu till en liten undring i min av alltför mycket tankeverksamhet
reducerade hjärna.
Om jag konfigurerar ljudet som moduler, hur ska jag göra då?
Ska jag välja att konfigurera huvuddelen som modul eller bara den del som
rör mitt soundblaster awe64?
Det är väl oss som driverne heter tror jag?
Sen skaman ju installera modulerna och sen ska man ju ha någon form av
modulloader.
Sen kan jag ju efter det köra sndconfig och kanske den vägen få till
något.
Vad tror ni?
/Anders.




Re: HMM.

2001-07-08 Thread Karl Pihlblad

 Fast det ser ut om om både irq och dma är rätt och allt är frid och fröjd.
 Dock funkar vissa wavfiler men inte andra, och vissa program men inte
 andra.

 
Det verkar vara osannolikt att soundblasterkortet vägrar spela vissa 
ljud... Min erfarenhet är att har man sparkat igång ett ljudkort så
att det låter EN gång så funkar det sen... Möjligen så orkar inte kortet
med en viss samplingsfrekvens. Borde gå att testa med tex sox?
  
Ljud kodade i Wav-filer kan vara ihopbakade av en hel massa
olika format och din spelare kanske inte stöder alla?
(Kanske bara gamla RIFF och inte GSM och allt vad det nu kan vara...
Det var en helt horribel lista senast jag orkade titta på min 
windows 98 maskin...)

Vissa program är beroende av ljuddemoner för själva spelandet - xmms 
använder esound (esd) tex. Det kanske är bra om det är installerat i så
fall. Jag har inte någon närmare koll på hur textbaserade spelare fungerar
men jag har för mig att mpg123 och sox skriver direkt till devicen.

Kan det vara något sådant?

Kolla förresten i /dev/sndstat för lite mer info... Vad jag förstår är
Audio Device själva dac:en och resten är midispelare mm...


Hepp!

-kalle 








Re: HMM.

2001-07-08 Thread orange

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Om jag konfigurerar ljudet som moduler, hur ska jag göra då?
Ska jag välja att konfigurera huvuddelen som modul eller bara den del som
rör mitt soundblaster awe64?

du kan ju alltid testa med alsa? jag har haft problem
med ljudet på 2 datorer, ett sb o ett crystal, så jag
började forska o någon tipsade mig om alsa. alsa funkar
hur bra som helst för mig, www.alsa-project.org har
jag för mig det var, eller apt-get install alsa-source

rätt enkelt att göra dom till *.deb också med kernel-
package från debian.

 [x] icq - 496723 [x] url - www.fobie.net



conecção instavel

2001-07-08 Thread Death Angel
Oi

estou tendo problemas com meu modem, a conecção esta muito instavel
acredito que seja apenas um problema com string. procurei na net encontrei
uns sites mas naum resolveu, tentei ate o site do fabricante encontrei os
comandos AT mas naum prontos eu teria que montalos tentei mas
o modem naum respondia.

se algue souber um comando AT que seja estavel e naum faça som (me conecto
de madrugada e naum quero incomodar niguem) por favor me mande.
ou se quiser os comados AT que baixei do site do faricante ele tem 400k.

eh um lucent winmodem
estou usando o modulo ltmodem-5.99b.tar.gz
compildo na minha maquina,
acho que esse naum preciso informar mas o kernel eh o 2.2.17
tb compilado eh configurado na minha maquina




Re: programação em C

2001-07-08 Thread Emerson Val Silva
On Thursday 05 July 2001 02:42, Death Angel wrote:
 ola, agradeço a atenção em relação a msg anterior.

  como ja disse comecei a estudar linguagem C, e logo no começo
 do livro encontrei um programa que naum funciona, o livro eh
 C A linguagem de programação de Brian W. Kernighan  Dennis M. Ritchie,

Eles foram os criadores do C e desenvolvedores do Unix juntamente com Ken 
Thompson, mas acho que esse livro é uma tradução de uma edição lançada antes 
da padronização do C pelo ANSI (American National Standards Institute).

 se naum  for um bom livro me avisem.
Livros do Kernighan e Ritchie são sempres excelentes, mas hoje em dia usa-se 
mais o ANSI C do que o C de Kernighan  Ritchie (como é conhecido).

 o prama eh minusculo, como ja foi dito o erro foi no começo do livro
 ele conta caracteres.

 /*aqui esta o fonte*/

 main ()
 {
 long nc;

 nc = 0;
 while (getchar () != EOF)
 ++ nc
 printf (%|d\n, nc);
 }

 eh acho que receberei uma resposta logo, visto que o programa eh
 muito simples.

 muito obrigado pela ajuda.


#include stdio.h  /* printf e getchar estão em stdio.h */
int main( int argc, char **argv )
/* Funcao main deve sempre retornar valor, 
   nunca untyped (sem tipo) ou tipo void ( nao retorna valor, ex. void 
main(... )
   int argc retorna numero de parametros de linha de comando
   char **argv retorna string contendo os parametros de linha de comando
*/
{
long nc;

nc = 0;
while (getchar () != EOF) /* EOF é igual ao CTRL+D */
++nc;

printf (%d\n, nc);

return 0; /* Recomenda-se que main sempre retorne valor
 visto que esse valor retornado possa ser
 usado por outros programas pra saberem se
 o seu programa obteve sucesso ou falha na
 execução. */
}


veja a documentacao da bliblioteca C do projeto GNU, essa bliblioteca que 
você tem no Linux:

http://www.gnu.org/manual/glibc-2.2.3/libc.html

Manuais e informações sobre o GCC (GNU C Compiler) o compilador dos sistemas 
GNU:

http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/onlinedocs/


Saiba um pouco mais sobre o sistema de documentação do Linux e do C nesses 
sites abaixo:

http://www.gnu.org/doc/doc.pt.html (portugues)
http://www.linuxdoc.org (ingles)



Re: Fw: Re: Usando ogg ao invés de mp3

2001-07-08 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Fri, 06 Jul 2001 12:30:35 -0300
Wanderlei R D Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Quer dizer que é melhor esperar um pouco?? Tudo o que tenho que fazer (e quero
 fazer) na minha máquina agora é passar pro Woody. Só saí dele quando passou 
 pra
 testing, eu continuei no Unstable e depois passei pra esse detestável 
 potato...
se você usou testing e unstable, você deve ter experiência pra se dar
bem no upgrade pro woody... que é o testing atual

 Preciso de programas que não existem pro Potato. 
 Se vocês acharem que não devo ter maiores problemas com o querido Woody, 
 baixo tudo
 configuro e recompilo tudo esse fim de semana!! E depois espero sair esse NMU 
 do
 grande Kov!
bem... esse NMU provavelmente demora hehehe... se quebrar quebrou e você
vai ter de consertar... senão o apt-get não deixa você mexer em
mais nada...

[]s!

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Re: Reconhecimento de voz

2001-07-08 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sat, 7 Jul 2001 22:05:09 -0400
Lúcio Pimenta de Moraes [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  Exite algum programa que permita o comando de programas ou o login no 
 sistema por
 comando vocal ?
Caro Lúcio,

fazer cross-posting como você fez nào é nada agradável... com certeza
as pessoas dessa lista não estão interessadas nas respostas que
você receber na linux-bh ou na linux-br da cnc e é isso que elas vão 
ver se a pessoa der um group reply... não é certo, não faça...

Obrigado,

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Re: audio de cd

2001-07-08 Thread Rodrigo Morais Araujo
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Celso Andrade wrote:


 Ola pessoal,

 to com um pequeno problema, nao estou conseguindo tocar cd's de audio com meu 
 usuario. Ja coloquei ele no grupo audio, disk, cdrom.. ja mudei as permissoes 
 do cdrom e nada.. o que pode estar acontecendo? to tentando tocar com o gcd e 
 gtcd. Tem algum player pra cd via console?

N?o seria o caso de olhar se aquele cabo que liga o cd na placa de som
est? em ordem?


 valeu.
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] programação em C

2001-07-08 Thread Hilton Fernandes
Emerson,


seu email foi excelente: muitas informações quentes sobre programação
em C e páginas de documentação.

Gostaria de complementar duas coisas: de fato, Kernighan  Ritchie
criaram um C que não é mais usado.  Contudo, o livro de Kernighan 
Ritchie tem (pelo menos) duas edições: a primeira é sobre o C que eles
criaram, o K  R C.  A segunda é sobre o ANSI C, definido por um
comitê.

Problema: no Brasil a 2a. edição foi assassinada pela editora que o
traduziu.  Até o índice remissivo está errado. :-(

A primeira edição teve uma boa tradução.

O mais triste é que os dois livros foram muito bem escritos, e vale a
pena lê-los em inglês.

Talvez por serem os criadores do C original, mesmo a 2a. edição ainda
mantém o estilo antigo. Por isso, valem as correções do Emerson para o
programa de contagem de linhas mostrado por Death Angel.

Além dos padrões K  R e ANSI, saiu o próximo padrão internacional do
C, chamado C99, que já deve estar sendo implementado nos compiladores
mais recentes.  Apesar de aceitar o ANSI C como subconjunto, o C99
oferece um monte de alterações que todo programador C vai ter de
aprender.  

Tenho visto na revista C/C++ Users Journal uma série de colunas
interessante sobre C99.

Seguindo os links sugeridos pelo Emerson, chega-se em 

http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.0/c99status.html

que informa que o suporte ao C99 disponível no GCC 3.0 ainda é muito
limitado.  De qlq modo, deve ser melhor do que o suporte oferecido por
muitos compiladores comerciais. Como de costume. :-)


[]s, Hilton


--- Emerson Val Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 05 July 2001 02:42, Death Angel wrote:
  ola, agradeço a atenção em relação a msg anterior.
 
   como ja disse comecei a estudar linguagem C, e logo no começo
  do livro encontrei um programa que naum funciona, o livro eh
  C A linguagem de programação de Brian W. Kernighan  Dennis M.
 Ritchie,
 
 Eles foram os criadores do C e desenvolvedores do Unix juntamente com
 Ken 
 Thompson, mas acho que esse livro é uma tradução de uma edição
 lançada antes 
 da padronização do C pelo ANSI (American National Standards
 Institute).
 
  se naum  for um bom livro me avisem.
 Livros do Kernighan e Ritchie são sempres excelentes, mas hoje em dia
 usa-se 
 mais o ANSI C do que o C de Kernighan  Ritchie (como é conhecido).
 
  o prama eh minusculo, como ja foi dito o erro foi no começo do
 livro
  ele conta caracteres.
 
  /*aqui esta o fonte*/
 
  main ()
  {
  long nc;
 
  nc = 0;
  while (getchar () != EOF)
  ++ nc
  printf (%|d\n, nc);
  }
 
  eh acho que receberei uma resposta logo, visto que o programa eh
  muito simples.
 
  muito obrigado pela ajuda.
 
 
 #include stdio.h  /* printf e getchar estão em stdio.h */
 int main( int argc, char **argv )
 /* Funcao main deve sempre retornar valor, 
nunca untyped (sem tipo) ou tipo void ( nao retorna valor, ex.
 void 
 main(... )
int argc retorna numero de parametros de linha de comando
char **argv retorna string contendo os parametros de linha de
 comando
 */
 {
   long nc;
   
   nc = 0;
   while (getchar () != EOF) /* EOF é igual ao CTRL+D */
   ++nc;
 
   printf (%d\n, nc);
   
   return 0; /* Recomenda-se que main sempre retorne valor
visto que esse valor retornado possa ser
usado por outros programas pra saberem se
o seu programa obteve sucesso ou falha na
execução. */
 }
 
 
 veja a documentacao da bliblioteca C do projeto GNU, essa bliblioteca
 que 
 você tem no Linux:
 
 http://www.gnu.org/manual/glibc-2.2.3/libc.html
 
 Manuais e informações sobre o GCC (GNU C Compiler) o compilador dos
 sistemas 
 GNU:
 
 http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/onlinedocs/
 
 
 Saiba um pouco mais sobre o sistema de documentação do Linux e do C
 nesses 
 sites abaixo:
 
 http://www.gnu.org/doc/doc.pt.html (portugues)
 http://www.linuxdoc.org (ingles)
 
 
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Re: Waste of bytez?

2001-07-08 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
 Hmmm, muito interessante Acho, sim, que, na medida do possível, um
 programa deve ser aperfeiçoado em absulotamente todos os sentidos (ainda com
 o código aberto, isso torna-se uma tarefa muito mais rápida e fácil, não
 cabendo apenas ao desenvolvedor do programa).
 
 Aqui vai uma versão de 42 bytes :)
 
 GdK-WARNING **: can't set locate modifiers

Aqui vai uma de 1/2 byte:

 Gd-WRN: aint set loct modfrs

  Entendo que a mentalidade na criação de um software é sempre o
  aperfeiçoamento (ao menos no sentido Debian da coisa). Compreendo também que
  nem sempre o aperfeiçoamento esta relacionado com a modificação das técnicas
  de sua criação, mas com o aumento de desempenho em um software já existente.
  Acho que esta parte da computação acaba por tomar um grande tempo de minha
  vida, pois na possibilidade sempre tendo coloca-la em uso.
[...]
  Bem, não é bem isso. O que quero dizer é se deveriamos considerar isso como
  uma futura inclusão na lista de sugestões do responsável pelo pacote, ou
  esquecer. É obvio que seria um byte a menos no programa, um byte a menos a
  ser processado, um byte a menos a ser enviado na memória, etc., mas vale a
  pena? É sem dúvida um passo a ser tomado para a perfeição do pacote, mas
  faz-se necessário toma-lo agora?

Não vejo vantagem neste tipo de economia, principalmente quanto ao
quesito processamento.  Talvez num clp isto faça diferença, mas um byte
numa printf()...

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Re: audio de cd

2001-07-08 Thread Marcelo Elias Del Valle








  Isso tb aconteceu comigo. No windows toca, mas no linux, nem rodando 
  como root.
  
  ---Original Message---
  
  
  From: Rodrigo Morais Araujo
  Date: domingo, 08 de 
  julho de 2001 10:38:37
  To: Celso Andrade
  Cc: debian-user-portuguese
  Subject: Re: audio de 
  cd
  On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Celso Andrade 
  wrote: Ola pessoal, to com um pequeno 
  problema, nao estou conseguindo tocar cd's de audio com meu usuario. Ja 
  coloquei ele no grupo audio, disk, cdrom.. ja mudei as permissoes do cdrom 
  e nada.. o que pode estar acontecendo? to tentando tocar com o gcd e gtcd. 
  Tem algum player pra cd via console?







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Re: IPLOG, XMMS, GNOME + Windows Maker

2001-07-08 Thread Rafael Sasaki
Olá Fabio,

  Não estou usando o GNU/Linux a muito tempo, mas vou tentar responder sua
pergunta.

On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 07:29:36PM -0300, Fabio wrote:
 alguem usa o iplog ? o que acha dele ? tem como fazer ele nao logar as 
 conexoes de um determinado IP ?  nao achei isso no FM ( fuckin manual)

não uso...

 XMMS : hmmm eu coloco ele pra tocar a mp3 e tipo ta tocando normal dai depois 
 de um tempo em qualquer parte da musica ele comeca a avancar até o final da 
 musica sem tocar nada...ja tentei aumentar o buffer size mas nao resolveu 
 :-(, alguma sugestao ? outro player talvez ?

não sei e o meu também não está funcionando direito, mas o meu está travando...

 bom..eu uso o wmaker aqui, sempre usei..outro dia eu tava no X-Chat e tinha 
 um botao la que qdo eu passei o mouse encima apareceu Panelize sem saber o 
 que era eu cliquei e pra minha surpresa apareceu o menu do gnome e os icones 
 do gnome no windows maker, eu até achei dahora só que qdo eu reinicio meu 
 linux esse menu nao esta mais la :-( alguem sabe como faco pra usar wmaker + 
 gnome ? uma coisa estranha é q eu digito no prompt 'gnome' e ele da command 
 not found..

tenta colocar no ~/.xinit o comando gnome-session. Deixando somente
essa linha deve funcionar. Depois tente iniciar o wmaker pelo comando startx.

 Valeww

Espero ter ajudado...
[]`s
 Rafael Sasaki



NÃO MANDE EMAIL EM HTML

2001-07-08 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
NÃO MANDE EMAIL EM HTML

ainda mais com um jpg attachado...

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SPAM OFF TOPIC

2001-07-08 Thread Fabio
Oi,

nao sei o que acontece mas estou recebendo spam e responder cada email
separadamente xingando pessoa por pessoa nao da certo entao gostaria de
saber se tem algum lugar q eu denuncio essas pessoas, o email do kra é From:
Ivan Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED].

desculpe mas eu odeio spam.

desde ja agradeco qualquer resposta e\ou manifestacao quanto ao spam.

Fabio



Re: SPAM OFF TOPIC

2001-07-08 Thread Nitrogen
Fabio,

A postura correta seria encaminhar uma cópia do e-mail ao servidor (ieg, no
caso) relatando o acontecido e pedindo que as devidas providências sejam
tomadas. O usuário sera provavelmente expulso da comunidade.

Leonardo Custodio
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- Original Message -
From: Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 3:48 PM
Subject: SPAM OFF TOPIC


 Oi,

 nao sei o que acontece mas estou recebendo spam e responder cada email
 separadamente xingando pessoa por pessoa nao da certo entao gostaria de
 saber se tem algum lugar q eu denuncio essas pessoas, o email do kra é
From:
 Ivan Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED].

 desculpe mas eu odeio spam.

 desde ja agradeco qualquer resposta e\ou manifestacao quanto ao spam.

 Fabio


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Galera , alguem ja passou por esse erro ? :(

2001-07-08 Thread HardBeat404
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

No momento do apt-get dist-upgrade ele deu um erro e eu peguei
exatamente o erro com o -f install , vo colocar aqui:


Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  esound esound-common gnome-users-guide libgnomeprint-bin
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gnome-users-guide
3 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 170  not
upgraded.
300 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/3349kB of archives. After unpacking 4511kB will be
used.
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Unpacking replacement libgnomeprint-bin ...
Unpacking gnome-users-guide (from
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dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/esound_0.2.22-5_i386.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/esd.1.gz', which is also in
package esound-common
 dpkg: regarding .../esound-common_0.2.22-5_all.deb containing
esound-common:
  esound-common conflicts with esound ( 0.2.22-4)
esound (version 0.2.17-7) is installed.
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/esound-common_0.2.22-5_all.deb (--unpack):
 conflicting packages - not installing esound-common
 dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/libgnomeprint-bin_0.29-4_i386.deb (--unpack):
  trying to overwrite
`/usr/share/man/man1/gnome-font-install.1.gz', which is also in
package libgnomeprint11
  dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-users-guide_1.4.1-5_all.deb (--unpack):
   trying to overwrite
`/usr/share/omf/gnome-user-docs/glossary-C.omf', which is also in
package gnome-user-docs
   Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/esound_0.2.22-5_i386.deb
   /var/cache/apt/archives/esound-common_0.2.22-5_all.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libgnomeprint-bin_0.29-4_i386.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-users-guide_1.4.1-5_all.deb
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

 Alguem ja passou por isso ?? Tem alguma possivel solução pra isso ??
=o(

Estou usado os pacotes unstable ;ó(



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Re: OFF-TOPIC: Debian off-topic (era: Re: OFF-TOPIC Usando ogg aoinvés de mp3)

2001-07-08 Thread Raphael D Pereira
On Sat 07 Jul 2001 21:54, Usuario Universo Online wrote:
  Mensagem anterior 

 No dia 7/7/01, 1:51:09 AM, Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu

 o seguinte sobre o tema Re: OFF-TOPIC Usando ogg ao invés de mp3:
  Em Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:50:14 -0300
 
  Pablo Lorenzzoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   Quero evitar essa discussao politica OFF-TOPIC, como o KoV falou,
   vamos criar um debian-politics-portuguese :-))).
 
  boa! vou pedir ao djalma pra criar a debian-off-topic
  --
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 Oi-
   Não sei se você falou sério (acho que não...), mas eu acho uma grande
 idéia a debian off-topic!

Gostei tbm...

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Re: Galera , alguem ja passou por esse erro ? :(

2001-07-08 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sun, 8 Jul 2001 19:38:50 -0300
HardBeat404 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  dpkg: regarding .../esound-common_0.2.22-5_all.deb containing
 esound-common:
   esound-common conflicts with esound ( 0.2.22-4)
 esound (version 0.2.17-7) is installed.
ok... no caso desse erro, você tem de primeiro atualizar seu
esound... senão não vai instalar...

 /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnomeprint-bin_0.29-4_i386.deb
  /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-users-guide_1.4.1-5_all.deb
  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
pra esses roda dpkg --force-overwrite -i nomedecadadeb.deb


  Alguem ja passou por isso ?? Tem alguma possivel solução pra isso ??
 =o(
com certeza muitas pessoas já passaram por isso e...

 Estou usado os pacotes unstable ;ó(
em 90% dos casos essa era a razão...

usuários que não conhecem bem o dpkg e o apt (no que você acaba de
demonstrar que se encaixa) *NÃO* deveriam se arriscar com unstable...

o nome diz tudo, é instável... é pra testadores e pra quem quer aprender
(ou desenvolver, claro...) 

mas se você não sabe:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/] # dpkg --help | grep force
  dpkg --force-help | -Dh|--debug=help help on forcing resp. debugging
  --force-...Override problems - see --force-help
  --no-force-...|--refuse-...Stop when problems encountered
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/] # dpkg --force-help | grep overwrite
  overwrite  Overwrite a file from one package with another
  overwrite-diverted Overwrite a diverted file with an undiverted version
  overwrite-dir [!]  Overwrite one package's directory with another's file

ou de man dpkg, isso significa que você deve ficar no stable mesmo =)
sem ofensas, é só um warning... logo logo a woody fica em um estado
melhor pra atualizações... ah... usar pacotes externos ao Debian também
é procurar problema...

em 95% dos casos existe o deb qeu você quer no Debian stable 
(ainda mais depois do woody ser lançado! 7000 pacotes!)

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Re: SPAM OFF TOPIC

2001-07-08 Thread KrIsSkRoSs
Melhor ainda. Encaminhe a mensagem completa incluindo o cabeçalho para
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com cópia para [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Nitrogen wrote:

 Fabio,

 A postura correta seria encaminhar uma cópia do e-mail ao servidor (ieg, no
 caso) relatando o acontecido e pedindo que as devidas providências sejam
 tomadas. O usuário sera provavelmente expulso da comunidade.

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 From: Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 3:48 PM
 Subject: SPAM OFF TOPIC


  Oi,
 
  nao sei o que acontece mas estou recebendo spam e responder cada email
  separadamente xingando pessoa por pessoa nao da certo entao gostaria de
  saber se tem algum lugar q eu denuncio essas pessoas, o email do kra é
 From:
  Ivan Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
  desculpe mas eu odeio spam.
 
  desde ja agradeco qualquer resposta e\ou manifestacao quanto ao spam.
 
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Debian-BR-OffTopic (era: Re: OFF-TOPIC: Debian off-topic)

2001-07-08 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sun, 8 Jul 2001 17:12:03 -0300
Raphael D Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  Oi-
  Não sei se você falou sério (acho que não...), mas eu acho uma grande
  idéia a debian off-topic!
claro que falei =)!

 Gostei tbm...

http://listas.cipsga.org.br/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-br-offtopic

Debian-BR-Offtopic,

inscreva-se já =)

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Re: audio de cd

2001-07-08 Thread Luis Alberto Garcia Cipriano

Olá,

Além do cabo verifique também se o drive de cdrom está instalado como 
master do IDE secundário, pois o /dev/cdrom, usado normalmente pelos 
programas citados, apontam para /dev/hdc


Caso não esteja, e, por exemplo, esteja como slave na IDE primária, 
experimente o seguinte: abra o gtcd e em Preferences  altere o CDRom 
device para /dev/hdb . Se funcionar, você pode até alterar o link 
simbólico em /dev/cdrom, porém, por questões de desempenho o ideal é que 
ele fique como master na IDE secundária mesno.


Abraços,

Luis Alberto.

Rodrigo Morais Araujo wrote:


On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Celso Andrade wrote:


Ola pessoal,

to com um pequeno problema, nao estou conseguindo tocar cd's de audio com meu 
usuario. Ja coloquei ele no grupo audio, disk, cdrom.. ja mudei as permissoes 
do cdrom e nada.. o que pode estar acontecendo? to tentando tocar com o gcd e 
gtcd. Tem algum player pra cd via console?



Não seria o caso de olhar se aquele cabo que liga o cd na placa de som
está em ordem?


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Re: audio de cd

2001-07-08 Thread Francisco Maciel
Olá Celso
e demais companheiros da Lista.

A questão é que seu usuário não tem permissão para
ler o dipositivo de cdrom, por exemplo: /dev/hdc.

Descubra qual o despositivo e veja! É bem provável
que seus atributos estajam assim: brw-rw

Altere para: brw-rw-r--

Na minha máquina funcionou beleza!...

OBS.:
/dev/cdrom é apenas um link simbólico, o dispositivo.
ls -l /dev/cdrom você descobre rapidinho o dispositivo
para o qual ele aponta.



On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 21:23:45 -0500
Celso Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Ola pessoal,
 
 to com um pequeno problema, nao estou conseguindo tocar cd's de audio com meu 
 usuario. Ja coloquei ele no grupo audio, disk, cdrom.. ja mudei as permissoes 
 do cdrom e nada.. o que pode estar acontecendo? to tentando tocar com o gcd e 
 gtcd. Tem algum player pra cd via console?
 
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Re: audio de cd

2001-07-08 Thread Celso Andrade


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Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 18:33:55 -0500
From: Celso Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Francisco Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: audio de cd


Agora funcionou.
O cabo de audio sempre esteve em ordem pois no win funciona. O problema era na 
permissao do hdd.
Valeu.


On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 18:12:44 -0300
Francisco Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|Olá Celso
|e demais companheiros da Lista.
|
|A questão é que seu usuário não tem permissão para
|ler o dipositivo de cdrom, por exemplo: /dev/hdc.
|
|Descubra qual o despositivo e veja! É bem provável
|que seus atributos estajam assim: brw-rw
|
|Altere para: brw-rw-r--
|
|Na minha máquina funcionou beleza!...
|
|OBS.:
|/dev/cdrom é apenas um link simbólico, o dispositivo.
|ls -l /dev/cdrom você descobre rapidinho o dispositivo
|para o qual ele aponta.
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Re: audio de cd

2001-07-08 Thread KrIsSkRoSs
A solução mais correta é verificar o gid do dispositivo do cdrom e
adicionar o(s) usuário(s) que deve(m) ter acesso ao grupo em questão.

e.g.

linux:~# ls /dev/cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 May 30 22:49 /dev/cdrom - hdc
linux:~# ls /dev/hdc
brw-rw1 root disk  22,   0 Nov 30  2000 /dev/hdc
linux:~# adduser usuario disk


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On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Francisco Maciel wrote:

 Olá Celso
 e demais companheiros da Lista.

 A questão é que seu usuário não tem permissão para
 ler o dipositivo de cdrom, por exemplo: /dev/hdc.

 Descubra qual o despositivo e veja! É bem provável
 que seus atributos estajam assim: brw-rw

 Altere para: brw-rw-r--

 Na minha máquina funcionou beleza!...

 OBS.:
 /dev/cdrom é apenas um link simbólico, o dispositivo.
 ls -l /dev/cdrom você descobre rapidinho o dispositivo
 para o qual ele aponta.

 

 On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 21:23:45 -0500
 Celso Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Ola pessoal,
 
  to com um pequeno problema, nao estou conseguindo tocar cd's de audio com 
  meu usuario. Ja coloquei ele no grupo audio, disk, cdrom.. ja mudei as 
  permissoes do cdrom e nada.. o que pode estar acontecendo? to tentando 
  tocar com o gcd e gtcd. Tem algum player pra cd via console?
 
  valeu.
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Re: audio de cd

2001-07-08 Thread Celso Andrade
Eu ja havia feito isso, mas nao funcionou... eu dei um chmod o+r /dev/hdd e 
funcionou.


On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 19:23:59 -0300 (BRT)
KrIsSkRoSs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|   A solução mais correta é verificar o gid do dispositivo do cdrom e
|adicionar o(s) usuário(s) que deve(m) ter acesso ao grupo em questão.
|
|e.g.
|
|linux:~# ls /dev/cdrom
|lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 May 30 22:49 /dev/cdrom - hdc
|linux:~# ls /dev/hdc
|brw-rw1 root disk  22,   0 Nov 30  2000 /dev/hdc
|linux:~# adduser usuario disk
|
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|
|On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Francisco Maciel wrote:
|
| Olá Celso
| e demais companheiros da Lista.
|
| A questão é que seu usuário não tem permissão para
| ler o dipositivo de cdrom, por exemplo: /dev/hdc.
|
| Descubra qual o despositivo e veja! É bem provável
| que seus atributos estajam assim: brw-rw
|
| Altere para: brw-rw-r--
|
| Na minha máquina funcionou beleza!...
|
| OBS.:
| /dev/cdrom é apenas um link simbólico, o dispositivo.
| ls -l /dev/cdrom você descobre rapidinho o dispositivo
| para o qual ele aponta.
|
| 
|
| On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 21:23:45 -0500
| Celso Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| 
|  Ola pessoal,
| 
|  to com um pequeno problema, nao estou conseguindo tocar cd's de audio
|com meu usuario. Ja coloquei ele no grupo audio, disk, cdrom.. ja mudei
|as permissoes do cdrom e nada.. o que pode estar acontecendo? to tentando
|tocar com o gcd e gtcd. Tem algum player pra cd via console?
| 
|  valeu.
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RealPlayer

2001-07-08 Thread Electra
Povo,


Segui os passos descritos em
http://www.linux.com/enhance/newsitem.phtml?sid=125aid=12156 para
instalar o RealPlayer, mas a coisa não vai...
Ao testar, é como se eu não tivesse o plugin instalado.

Algo me diz que tem algo a ver com permissões, uma vez que instalei o
Real como root e quem está rodando o Netscape ou o Mozilla (que apesar
de lento, tá muito fofo!). Alguma dica?!

Michelle



Você sabia que pode ler esse grupo via news?

2001-07-08 Thread Usuario Universo Online
Oi-

O comentário vai parecer muito burro pros mais veteranos, mas eu 
descobri hoje uma coisa jóia: dá pra ler essas mensagens via news, no 
newsgroup linux.debian.user.portuguese.
Isso tem vantagens: dá pra descarregar apenas os cabeçalhos, poupando 
espaço em disco. Se você já está usando o news mesmo, já fica por alí, 
não precisa abrir um aplicativo de e-mail que, dependendo do caso, pode 
ser um pouco devagar (ou degavar, com a gente diz às vezes aqui no 
Sul).
O problema vai ser você achar um servidor gratuito de news. Com todo o 
escândalo de sexo na internet, eles estão mais tímidos e quase 
sumiram. Uma pena...News é muito democrático. Se você não está vinculado 
à uma universidade, pode ser difícil achar um servidor. Aqui no Brasil, 
onde o admin pode ser processado se um pervertido invadir o servidor 
(política do azar o seu), aí é que não tem mesmo...
Eu uso o seguinte servidor (dou a dica pra quem não quiser gastar tempo 
procurando um), que tem todas hierarquias que me interessam (comp., 
linux., sci.), e um pouco mais: news.cis.dfn.de 
É necessário se registrar antes, via http://news.fu-berlin.de/
[ ]s
Henry



Re: Apostilas Config Rede

2001-07-08 Thread Douglas S. Corrêa
Pessoal,

Enviei um email hoje para o autor da apostila (eu jah havia enviado mas
havia mudado o endereço), e assim que ele me responder eu passo a você.
Creio que ele fez a apostila do LaTex.
Caso ele não permita a divulgação, eu vou le-la e passerei um resumo, e
resumo não infringe nenhuma lei de copyright ainda mais para fins didáticos.


Um abraço

Douglas
- Original Message -
From: Leonardo Menezes Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Usuários Debian de língua portuguesa
debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: Apostilas Config Rede



  Como eu já disse na lista, eu possuo uma apostila que explica como
  configurar serviços de rede: DNS (Bind), DHCP, Sendmail, Apache, Samba,
  Ipchains.
  Como eu também expliquei foi um professor do CEFET-PR que preparou, não
  consegui falar com ele para ver se ele me arranja em arquivo, já que
tenho
  apenas em papel.
  Caso ele não tenha o arquivo ou não queira passar, eu já estou digitando
  ela, portanto de qualquer forma eu terei ela pronta daqui uns dias.
 
  Então gostaria que todos que quisessem ela me enviassem um email
solicitando.
 
  E se alguém da Debian-BR se interessar podemos libera-la para acesso na
HP
  da Debian-BR, já que o software é livre a documentação também é!
 
  Um abraço
 
  douglas


  Olá Douglas,

  Acho interessante o tipo de material que queres distribuir, mas acredito
  que antes de passa-lo adiante deves verificar se existe alguma nota de
  copyright do mesmo. Mesmo que seja informação sobre software livre, não
  quer dizer que a mesma seja livre. Seria interessante entrares em contato
  com o autor e verificar a possibilidade da livre distribuição do
material.

  Também tenho algum material sobre Software Livre para ser livremente
  distribuido, mas preciso fazer algumas alterações. Se por acaso alguém
  puder me ajudar com LaTeX e/ou SGML poderia disponibilizar esse material
  o mais rápido possível.


  []s

  Leonardo


  Ps.: Caso o autor desse material disponibilizá-lo para livre
distribuição,
  adoraria ficar com uma cópia. :)


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Acrobat Reader Linux distributions

2001-07-08 Thread Ted Harding
Hi Folks,

I'm having problems with Acrobat Reader (version 4.0) segfaulting
repeatedly on a SuSE-7.2. (This is with Smooth text and images
turned on -- turning this off seems to cure it).

What are people's experiences with this version of Acrobat Reader on
other recent Linux distributions?

With thanks,
Ted.



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Re: Problem with grep ?

2001-07-08 Thread Dominique Deleris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joost Kooij) writes:

 No.  It appears to work fine, here.
 
 $ type grep
 grep is hashed (/bin/grep)

This is it ! Some days ago, I put an alias in my .bashrc as
follows:
alias grep='grep -l'

Commenting out this alias makes everything work fine again. I
simply did not remember having set this alias :-)

Anyhow, what's wrong with this alias ?

Thanks for your help !

Dominique



Unidentified subject!

2001-07-08 Thread dude

Hi all.

I am looking for software that
help documentation.

Something like a note-taking system,
but where i can add subcategories
to a sectiona dn continually add to it
as need.

Thanks



Re: [OT] detecting the RAM speed

2001-07-08 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 02:04:18PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote:
 hi guys,
 a guy on ebay is trying to cheat. i got a 256Mb/133 SDRAM module from
 him, which wwas defective (according to memtest86). so i sent it back,
 and received a replacement. this replacement was not detected by my
 machine until i changed the bus speed for the RAM slots to 100Mhz (it
 was at 133MHz) before. aside from the fact that this module was also
 defective, how can i determine *for sure* whether the module is 100MHz
 or 133MHz? it has a sticker on it saying 133MHz, but that doesn't mean
 anything.
 
 martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
   \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, I guess one way you could tell would be from the memory chips'
latency.  For 133MHz, it would have to be lower than 7.5ns (inverse of
133MHz) to be able to run.  Can memtest86 detect the latency?  Or
maybe the latency is marked on the chips?

-- 
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Re: Problem with grep ?

2001-07-08 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 03:29:20PM +0200, Dominique Deleris wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joost Kooij) writes:
 
  No.  It appears to work fine, here.
  
  $ type grep
  grep is hashed (/bin/grep)
 
 This is it ! Some days ago, I put an alias in my .bashrc as
 follows:
 alias grep='grep -l'
 
 Commenting out this alias makes everything work fine again. I
 simply did not remember having set this alias :-)
 
 Anyhow, what's wrong with this alias ?

The grep(1) manpage:

   -l, --files-with-matches
  Suppress normal output; instead print the name of each 
  input file from which output would normally have been
  printed.  The scanning will stop on the first match.

As you're pipe-ing data to grep -l, grep prints standard input as the
name of the file.  It puts brackets around it, because it knows that
this is not a real file.

Cheers,


Joost



gcc problems compiling pcmcia

2001-07-08 Thread Matteo Semplice
Hi guys,
I am a little screwed up here... I upgraded some time ago to
potato (from slink) but I haven't yet upgraded to 2.2 kernels. The story
starts when I decided to recompile my 2.0.38 kernel to include vfat
support (not sure why it wasn't in in the first place given that I have a
win installation on the same machine as well!). To cut a long story short,
despite all my efforts, I broke my pcmcia modules, with the results that I
can't use my ethernet card under linux. (I hate to admit that I had to
rebbot into Win95 to write you!)

Ok, so now I have a 2.0.39 kernel that compiled flawlessly, but I
can't compile pcmcia modules to match it. I tried both with the .tar.gz
files and with the debian package and make-kpkg with no luck. I fixed the
obvious error, i.e. pointed \usr\bin\cc to gcc272 (i.e. version 2.7.2 of
gcc) and not gcc (which as in potato is version 2.95.2), but I still get
errors and the modules wouldn't compile. The log is at the bottom. I get
the same errors with make and make-kpkg.

I suspect that the problem is with gcc (gcc272 doesn't include the
g++ libraries: is that the problem? It suggests to get them from slink,
but the slink package is expecting gcc to be 2.7.2 and wouldn't install.
Would it be safe to force its installation or would that break my gcc
2.95.2?). Anyway, how would you come out of this? If I get a kernel and
pcmcia-modules from slink and start on those would I have at least
internet access without rebooting? And what about recompiling then?

Thanks,
matteo

Transcript of make-kpkg:


Warning: The d6r2.01.07.08 option only has an effect during
the configure phase -- in other words, since the file
stamp-configure exists, this option has no effect 
run make-kpkg clean or  if you know what you are doing,
manually remove stamp-debian, stamp-configure and 
debian/changelog for it to have an effect
Please hit return to continue
for module in /usr/src/modules/* ; do \
  if test -d  $module; then\
(cd $module;   \
  if ./debian/rules KVERS=2.0.39 KSRC=/usr/src/linux \
 KMAINT=Matteo Semplice KEMAIL=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  \
 KDREV=Custom.1.00 kdist_image; then\
  echo Module $module processed fine;\
  else  \
   echo Module $module failed.;  \
   echo Hit return to Continue;   \
   read ans;\
  fi;   \
 ); \
  fi;   \
done
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs'
test -f man/pcmcia.5 -a -f debian/rules
test root = `whoami`
test -f man/pcmcia.5 -a -f debian/rules
rm -f debian/files
make -f debian/rules MOD_DIR=/usr/src/linux clean-modules binary-modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs'
test -f man/pcmcia.5 -a -f debian/rules
umask 022; make ALL=`sed -ne '/ALL *= */{;s///;s/cardmgr.*$//;p;q;}' 
Makefile` clean
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs'
make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/modules'
rm -f core core.* *.o .*.o *.s *.a *~ .depend .depfiles/*.d
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/modules'
make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/clients'
rm -f core core.* *.o .*.o *.s *.a *~ .depend .depfiles/*.d
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/clients'
make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/wireless'
rm -f core core.* *.o .*.o *.s *.a *~ .depend .depfiles/*.d
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/wireless'
rm -f .prereq.ok config.mk include/pcmcia/config.h
rm -f include/linux/modversions.h
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs'
rm -f build-modules
test -f man/pcmcia.5 -a -f debian/rules
test root = `whoami`
KVERS=2.0.39 ./Configure -n --kernel=/usr/src/linux --srctree \
  --cardbus --rcdir=/etc

 Linux PCMCIA Configuration Script 

The default responses for each question are correct for most users.
Consult the PCMCIA-HOWTO for additional info about each option.

Linux source directory [/usr/src/linux]

The kernel source tree is version 2.0.39.
The current kernel build date is Sat Jul 7 15:33:01 2001.

Build 'trusting' versions of card utilities (y/n) [n]

The PCMCIA drivers need to be compiled to match the kernel they
will be used with, or some or all of the modules may fail to load.
If you are not sure what to do, please consult the PCMCIA-HOWTO.

How would you like to set kernel-specific options?
1 - Read from the currently running kernel
2 - Read from the Linux source tree

[OT] sendmail FEATURE access_db - configuration help needed

2001-07-08 Thread Jimmy Richards
Greetings GNU/Linuxer's,

I am hoping someone might be able to help me with the access_db
feature in sendmail. Here's what I did to try and get it to work. I
made a file /etc/mail/access containing one line followed by a newline,
is the newline ok to have in there? (username changed to protect the
guilty)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   REJECT

then ran...

makemap hash access  access

Then I edited my sendmail.mc(inserted at bottom of this message) and
ran sendmailconfig and said 'Y' to use the current sendmail.mc file.
The config ran with no errors. Then I said yes to restart sendmail with
the new config. Then I wrote myself an e-mail and tried to send it off.
But the mailq command said 'Connection refused by localhost'

c243491-a:~# mailq
MSP Queue status...
/var/spool/mqueue-client (1 request)
-Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient---
f68Cq8m7009404   21 Sun Jul  8 06:52 longshot
 (Deferred: Connection refused by localhost)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Total requests: 1
MTA Queue status...
/var/spool/mqueue is empty
Total requests: 0


### senmail.mc file minus the copyright portion ###

divert(0)dnl
define(`_USE_ETC_MAIL_')dnl
include(`/usr/share/sendmail/sendmail.cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl
VERSIONID(`$Id: sendmail.mc, v 8.12.0.Beta10 2001/05/29 12:00:00 cowboy Exp $')
OSTYPE(`debian')dnl
DOMAIN(`debian-mta')dnl
FEATURE(`access_db', `hash -TTMPF /etc/mail/access')
dnl #
dnl # General defines
dnl #
dnl # SAFE_FILE_ENV: `/' is the (Debian) default and will prevent users
dnl #   from writing to devices.
dnl #   If *all* your user accounts are under /home then use that
dnl #   instead - it will prevent any writes outside of /home !
define(`confSAFE_FILE_ENV', `/')dnl
LOCAL_CONFIG
define(`SMART_HOST', `mail')dnl
FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl
LOCAL_CONFIG
Cwc243491-a.aurora1.co.home.com
FEATURE(`use_cw_file')dnl
FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl
define(`confMAILER_NAME', `postmaster')dnl
define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `6h')dnl
define(`confTO_QUEUERETURN', `3d')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Dialup/LAN connection overrides
dnl #
include(`/etc/mail/dialup.m4')dnl
include(`/etc/mail/provider.m4')dnl
dnl #
MAILER_DEFINITIONS
MAILER(local)dnl
MAILER(smtp)dnl

LOCAL_CONFIG
## Custom configurations below (will be preserved)



Anything pointers and help will be much appreciated!

Thanks for your time,

Jim Richards



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Re: [users] xset (and therefore Abiword) doesn't work

2001-07-08 Thread George Fischer
Well, the directory already has a fonts.scale and a fonts.dir, but I did
this anyway.  There was no change to the error message (and the new
.scale and .dir files were much smaller than the old ones; I think
because there are other font types in the directory besides AFM and PFB)


Martin F. Krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 use the script at
   http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/4413
 
 to create the fonts.scale file in that directory. then, simply
 run 'mkfontdir' and you should be set.
 
 martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
   \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -- 
 never underestimate the power of human stupidity.





Re: Acrobat Reader Linux distributions

2001-07-08 Thread Michael B. Taylor
On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 02:18:46PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 I'm having problems with Acrobat Reader (version 4.0) segfaulting
 repeatedly on a SuSE-7.2. (This is with Smooth text and images
 turned on -- turning this off seems to cure it).
 
 What are people's experiences with this version of Acrobat Reader on
 other recent Linux distributions?
 
I have had trouble, stability wise, with pervious versions of Acrobat
reader on debian.  I think that may be in part because Adobe distributes
binarys, hence the program is not always compiled against the exact 
libraries that it will be used with.

My solution is to use xpdf.  I have found xpdf to be fast, light, functional,
and robust.  If suse doesnt package it (that would suprise me), you can 
get the source and build it yourself.  

Mike



Re: xv alternatives

2001-07-08 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 02:53:22AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 Carl Johnson wrote:
  I haven't tried imagemagick recently, but it's crashed my system
  enough times over the years that I avoid it whenever possible.  Unless
  it has changed recently, it doesn't check memory.  If it runs out of
  memory it will keep trying until the system daemons run out of memory
  and start crashing.  I compared it against xv, xloadimage, and gimp,
  and all of the others would abort an operation and give a warning when
  they ran out of memory.  Of course, if you have *lots* of memory, then
  it's probably safe enough.
 
 This is what resource limits are for.

Hmm. 

I'd argue that this is what good coding is for. 

Mike

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good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be
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Microsoft Reader... argh!

2001-07-08 Thread Andrew Perrin
Greetings folks-

I'd like to assign a book for a class this fall that is published only in
hardcover and in something called Microsoft Reader format. The MS
Reader format is about 1/2 the price, which matters (I don't like to make
students pay more than necessary, particularly at a public
school.).  According to Amazon, the MS Reader is available only for
Windows. Does anyone else know about this gizmo, what the format is,
etc? I'm not willing to let Microsoft have a monopoly on my class, so if
in fact it's Windows-only I'll either not assign the book (and let the
publisher know!) or make them go with the expensive hardback.

Thanks for any advice-
Andy Perrin

--
Andrew J Perrin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin
 Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
  269 Hamilton Hall, CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA




[OT] sendmail FEATURE access_db - configuration help needed

2001-07-08 Thread Jimmy Richards

Hi Again,

I should have added that I get the following messages in my log
when trying use that config...

Jul  8 06:49:52 c243491-a fetchmail[9371]: SMTP error: 451 4.3.0
Temporary system failure. Please try again later.
Jul  8 06:49:52 c243491-a sm-mta[9373]: ruleset=check_relay,
arg1=localhost,arg2=127.0.0.1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1],
reject=451 4.3.0

Do I need to add myself(localhost) to the 'check_relay' ruleset or
something?


Thanks,

Jim

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gdm slight differences

2001-07-08 Thread Victor
When in a console I log in as user the file ~/.bashrc -tailored to add  ~/bin 
to the path directory - is executed.

Booting the PC up with gdm and logging as user it looks as though ~/.bashrc 
isn't executed  because under Gnome terminal I can't use any script in ~/bin 
unless I issue the command ~/bin/.script-to-be-run.

Am I right  and what should I do?

Ciao

Vittorio



PPP dialup utility

2001-07-08 Thread Victor
While as root I'm able to define new accounts and use them as root
with PPP dialup utility under Gnome, I can't even see the accounts and
define new ones as a user.

What should I do?

Ciao
Vittorio



Re: Microsoft Reader... argh!

2001-07-08 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 10:26:34AM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote:

 According to Amazon, the MS Reader is available only for Windows.

Have you tested it under WINE?  That would let Linux and certain other
Unix-derivative users run it, although MacPeople would presumably still be
out of luck.  There appears to be no way to convert anything back from
Microsoft's .LIT format to something less proprietary.

Amazon (partly owned by Redmond) is selling exclusively in Reader format.
-- 
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Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
http://dm.net



Re: PPP dialup utility

2001-07-08 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

use pppconfig and select your user!

On Sunday 08 July 2001 10:20, Victor wrote:
 While as root I'm able to define new accounts and use them as root
 with PPP dialup utility under Gnome, I can't even see the accounts and
 define new ones as a user.

 What should I do?

 Ciao
 Vittorio

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Re: gdm slight differences

2001-07-08 Thread Kyle Girard



When you login via gdm ~/.gnomerc is executed so put your stuff in 
there or symlink to it or whatever else make you happy. :o)

Kyle
On 08 Jul 2001 17:33:03 +, Victor wrote:
 When in a console I log in as user the file ~/.bashrc -tailored to add  ~/bin to the path directory - is executed.
 
 Booting the PC up with gdm and logging as user it looks as though ~/.bashrc isn't executed  because under Gnome terminal I can't use any script in ~/bin unless I issue the command ~/bin/.script-to-be-run.
 
 Am I right  and what should I do?
 
 Ciao
 
 Vittorio
 
 
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networking windows and linux

2001-07-08 Thread Marko Simendic

 DC I'm currently trying to network a windows box and a debian box. I'm =
 DC using ethernet cards and am able to ping both boxes respectfully. I use
 DC = the windows box for the internet and mail (although once I am =
 DC comfortable with Linux I will be converting fully).My question is how
 DC do = I share the files from the windows box with the Linux box? And
 DC while I'm = at it how do I share the Linux files with the windows box
 DC (I really = don't care about that right now, but for future reference
 DC maybe)? = Thanks.

 DC Dan

apt-get install task-samba
then edit /etc/samba/smb.conf (it is easy)
and that`s it. You can connect to windows shares using smbclient 
//windowsboxname/share -I [windows machine ip]
use -I only if you don`t have a windows machine ip in /etc/hosts.

 



newbie installation problem

2001-07-08 Thread Marko Simendic
 ft seem to find the module for the CD ROM drive during the installation. I
 ft could

 ft however run a shell  make a directory as /mnt/fd0 using
 ft #mount -r /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom and then *cd* into cdrom and browse
 ft directory etc of installation CD!!

 ft And I also checked /lib/2.2.17/modules and there are modules, tho I
 ft ain't sure

 ft they are for the cdrom! The problem I figure is maybe the driver for
 ft the cdrom
 ft (TEAC CD 540-E manufactured Jan200 - I removed the cover and
 ft checked..)is missing, tho installation CD had a module for TEAC,
 ft matsushita etc.. and when I tried installing it said installation
 ft failed! Any ideas what's wrong here? Should I go for 2.2r3?

I have the same cd-rom, and he doesn`t need any modules, as most of the IDE
devices... Just skip installing module for cd-rom.

 



Would like to ask for some information regarding about debian's ins

2001-07-08 Thread Marko Simendic
 D- Subject: Would like to ask for some information regarding about
 D- debian's ins 
 D- From: D-Man [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 D- Sender: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 D- Header-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

 D- On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 07:07:11PM -0500, John Hughes wrote:
 D- | On Thursday 05 July 2001 13:03, D-Man wrote:
 | 
 |  I guess you mean that you are in 10th grade (or your local equivalent)
 |  because middle school is really young to be understanding how Unix (or
 |  computers in general) work.  I started out with DOS 3.3 in 7th grade,
 D- | 
 D- | I think grade 7 is when I first installed redhat.
 | 
 |  and to tell the truth I didn't learn anything other than windows until
 |  I started college (I had a brief glimpse of Solaris, but not enough to
 |  understand that there was something other than MS and Apple :-)).
 D- | 
 D- | Now, im in grade 11, have long forgotten the ill-ness of redhat, and
 D- am quite 
 D- | comfortable with Debian and unix in general :)

 D- Cool!  It is nice to see some people getting an early start using a
 D- decent system :-).

 D- -D

Greetings to all...
I decided to participate more actively in this list from now and I think that
writing this is the right way to start. :) The only thing that is preventing
me is the fact that I use e-mail over bbs (BW/MM combination) and the mail
exchange is very slow. And I have some technical dificulties, too. In spite of
that I will try to be more active (until I go on vacation, that is :).
Anyway, my first Linux distro was Debian 2.1 in my 7th grade (summer vacation,
between 7th and 8th grade, to be more precise)only a year before I got my
first PC. Then I used RH and SuSE for a while, and came back to the real
thing with Debian 2.2. Now I have finished 1st grade (mid-school, 15 years
old) and I am still using it. The only thing I am sorry about is that when I
installed Debian, (knew nothing about it, had no one to ask) I didn`t knew a
nice feature of Debian - the Debian community. That`s the reason I want to
help. While we are at it, are there any Debianers from Yugoslavia here? I
woud like to exchange opinions in my native tongue specially about forming
some kind of unformal debian-user-society in Yu, if there isn`t any yet, of
course. :)

Bye!
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printing

2001-07-08 Thread Marko Simendic
 JC Newbie here...

 JC I've used unix systems for years and am certainly not an expert.
 JC I'm new to Linux and just installed it on my pc. Why can't I print?
 JC There is no lp, lpr command. There is a /dev/lp0 device and
 JC my printer was recognized during installation.
 JC I found documentation that said I needed to install a
 JC package like LPD, but haven't found any packages that
 JC refer to printer in dselect.

 JC I think I'm going down the wrong path with this print
 JC thing.

 JC Any suggestions for getting print capability?

First do a apt-get install lpr apsfilter. Then run apsfilterconfig.
You should be able to manage to do the configuration by yourself. If 
apsfilterconfig reports that he can not find a filter for your printer, 
just write down its name and apt-get it. Then check for /etc/printcap.
There are your printer names. Among them there is raw. Type echo something 
 text then a lpr -Praw text. A paper containing something should come
out. :) Probably someone could give you a more sofisticated instructions, 
but this worked for me, so I see no reason that it shouldn`t work for you.

 



Re: Microsoft Reader... argh!

2001-07-08 Thread Mark Wagnon
On 07/08/01 10:26:34 -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote:
 I'd like to assign a book for a class this fall that is published only in
 hardcover and in something called Microsoft Reader format. The MS
 Reader format is about 1/2 the price, which matters (I don't like to make
 students pay more than necessary, particularly at a public
 school.).  According to Amazon, the MS Reader is available only for
 Windows. Does anyone else know about this gizmo, what the format is,
 etc? I'm not willing to let Microsoft have a monopoly on my class, so if
 in fact it's Windows-only I'll either not assign the book (and let the
 publisher know!) or make them go with the expensive hardback.
 

As a continuing student, I'm glad to hear that professors like
yourself think about students' bank accounts. Thanks! 

Personally, I like to have access to a nice text with actual pages. I
can take it anywhere and not worry about hosing my PDA/eBook reader or
whatever, and I'm not be chained to my computer (although some in my
family believe that's happened ;-) ). If the eBook was in HTML or some
other format easily decipherable by other party's technologies, I'd
say go for it, but since it looks like it's MS' attempt to secure the
eBook market for itself, I would avoid purchasing/recommending it in
that format.  Can you imagine a world where trees are no longer cut
down to produce paper for books (yay!), yet the only format available
is MS' (boo!)?  If MS disagreed with a publisher's views, they could
yank their licensing.  Scary stuff. 

I would write the publisher and let them know how you feel whichever
way I went though. 

Just my two pennies.
-- 
Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: file transfer via serial link to windows box

2001-07-08 Thread Phil Brutsche
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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 Does anyone know what simple small program I can uses to transfer files
 from the notebook to the desktop.

All you need on the Windows side is HyperTerminal; on the Debian system
you need the lrzsz package.

The first step is to get to the point where you can log into the Debian
system via one of the serial ports.

The second step - transfering the file to the Debian system - is much
easier: run rz from the command line and then use HyperTerminal to
send the file you want to transfer via ZModem.

 ppp is not an option, since I have no way of getting the windows install
 files onto the notebook for it's dial-up networking

 PLIP is no good, since I don't have a parallel cable, and it's not so
 terrible, that I'm going to go and buy one :)

I wasn't aware that Win 9x/NT/2k could do PLIP (Win 3.x can do it with the
Crynwr packet drivers).

 so whatever softeware needed on the windows box needs to be small and
 not need anything fancy on the windows side

And chances are the only software you need is already on the Windows box
:)

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Re: debian vs suse

2001-07-08 Thread Faheem Mitha


On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Osamu Aoki wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 10:59:46PM -0400, Peter Kok wrote:
  What is the different between debian and suse?

I am currently running SuSE (6.2) and Debian (2.2r3) (just newly installed
on my machine, and have been using SuSE on my machine since September 99,
so feel qualified to comment.

SuSE is generally much more poorly designed, and is much harder to
upgrade. Basically I think of it as a broken system.

 Debian is better!!!

Yes.
 
 Seriously, except for packaging system and few minor style differences,
 both are quite similar system (SYS-V init).
 
 Major difference is that debian is free volunteer efforts while suse is
 commercial distribution.
 
  How are the security and stable?
 
 System is as secure as its admin's skill and efforts.

Debian is a bit more secure out of the box, I think. Though I have not
been using recent versions of SuSE (6.2 is now approximately 2 years old)
so maybe they have improved.

 If you ask how easy to update to the latest security patched program, I
 can say that debian delivers security updates quite fast and updating
 system with them in debian is very easy even for active daemon programs.
 
 Judging from suse's RPM packaging, suse may not be as easy to upgrade
 active daemons like Redhat.  (I do not know.)

The differences between upgrading SuSE and Debian are extraordinary. I
recently had to strip down my SuSE system manually, and recompile many
source rpms just to install a recent version of Gnumeric on my system. As
I expect you know, SuSE has no dependency checking, the different rpms have
complicated dependencies which are not always properly listed (I tended to
use autoconf a lot to tell me what the dependencies were) and they
sometimes didn't even use proper build-rooted source rpms, so it was often
necessary to rewrite the spec files in order to recompile the source rpms
safely. (As a matter of policy, I always install software using the
appropriate package manager, so I never install tar.gz's.)

I used Redhat 5.1 between 1998-1999, and it was even worse. Quite badly
broken, basic things didn't work out of the box for no reason etc. From
what I hear about Redhat recently, not much has changed.

Commercial Linux systems might look appealing on the surface, but they are
a mess inside.

 I can tell you that Debian has steep learning curve but it is worth it.

I think the steep learning curve is much exaggerated. If you've been using
another Linux you should do just fine. And Debian just blows away the
competition (at least among other Linuxes, don't know about the BSD's) in
terms of quality control, careful and intelligent design, and
upgradeability.

Faheem.



Re: [OT] Harassment of open source developer !

2001-07-08 Thread csj
On Sunday 08 July 2001 10:12, John Hasler wrote:
 Erik Steffl wrote:
  they should rename KIllustrator to: Adobe Illustrator Replacement
 
  that should be covered by fair use (it only refers to adobe
  illustrator which is allowed)

 Fair use is a term in copyright law.  It has no meaningful
 application that I know of to trademarks.

 Aaron Brashears writes:
  How about one better:
 
  Free
  Adobe
  Illustrator
  Replacement
 
  aka: FAIR

 I _like_ that.

How about Kill Illustrator? It sounds like it anyway - KILLustrator.



apt-get/dselect-problem

2001-07-08 Thread Martin Bretschneider
Hi folks,

I've got four Sid-images (from may) and wanted to update some proggies.
But there weren't any updates for gpgme (lobgpgme0) that doesn't installed
a config-file that is needed to compile my mua with gpg-support.

Nevertheless, now I wanted to install some packages from the cds, but
dselect wants to install them from the ftp-server I put in
/etc/apt/sources.list:

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.4 _Sid_ - fsn.hu's i386 Binary-6
(20010525)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
non-US/non-free non-free
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.4 _Sid_ - fsn.hu's i386 Binary-3
(20010525)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
non-US/non-free non-free
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.4 _Sid_ - fsn.hu's i386 Binary-2
(20010525)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
non-US/non-free non-free
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.4 _Sid_ - fsn.hu's i386 Binary-1
(20010525)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
non-US/non-free non-free

deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free

So what shall I do?
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isdn dialup

2001-07-08 Thread cooher
Hi,
Firstly what is a MSN/EAZ and how do i find mine?

Secondarly, I'm trying to get my isdn card to dial a 
BT Surftime number (0844) but it wants to 
continually put an international dialing code on the 
front, which i think BT doesn't allow. How do i 
switch international dialing off?

When i look through /var/log/isdn.log there are a 
number of columns, could someone please tell me what 
each coloumn refers to?

Could anyone pleae help me out?

Thanks in advance,

Hereward

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Re: [OT] Harassment of open source developer !

2001-07-08 Thread John Hasler
csj writes:
 How about Kill Illustrator? It sounds like it anyway - KILLustrator.

That would infringe as much as Killustrator does.  The trick with FAIR is
that you can let everyone know what it stands for and not infringe as long
as you don't use the word 'Illustrator' in the labeling of the product.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI



Re: [users] Re: /var being eaten

2001-07-08 Thread Leonard Leblanc
I think you should both *grow up* and just forget about this whole thing 
right now, if you are going to continue to flame each other then do so 
privately. 

I don't really want to waste my time reading this garbage and I'm sure alot 
of other people don't want to either.

On Sunday 08 July 2001 07:49, Brian Nelson wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 11:57:15PM -0700, Kevin wrote:
  excuse me mister super leeto linux man.  if you looked at the headers
  you'd see im not even using ms-oe so blow me.  wtf should i use your
  standard for replies. get a life.

 I know you're not using OE (which I didn't claim), but you're using
 something that copies OE which is just as bad.


[*SNIP lots of garbage here]

-- 
Leonard Leblanc
Vice President - Technology
www.emergeknowledge.com



Mozilla + Java for potato

2001-07-08 Thread Christoph Simon
FYI

I've installed the unofficial debs for mozilla 0.9-1, which Robert
Bihlmeyer made available, and had no problems installing Java or other
plugins, while I do remember somebody reporing such troubles.

This time, I needed to set up a very stripped down system with
mozilla, and all of the sudden, no plugins worked, specially not
java. Everything was perfectly installed, same files, sizes and
locations as in other boxen where it worked, but no avail.

After a huge amount of searching, I found out, that proper plugin
support in mozilla, at least in this configuration, depends on
xlib6g-dev, which in turn likes to see libc6g-dev and gcc installed. I
hope this info will save others the time I spent to find out.

I have no idea why is this, or if I could otherwise avoid installing
those packages, but at least it works this way. Maybe somebody more
specialized in this monster called mozilla could shed light on this or
even offer some more evident solutions (Robert?).

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help
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Starting mail retrieval agent: system-wide fetchmail not configured

2001-07-08 Thread Lukas Sobik
when i boot woody it says:

Starting mail retrieval agent: system-wide fetchmail not configured

and when i run fetchmail -v its puts this out:


fetchmail: 5.8.3 querying pop3.account.de (protocol POP3) at Sun Jul  8
20:18:28 2001
fetchmail: POP3 +OK ready  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail: POP3 CAPA fetchmail: POP3 +OK Capability list follows
fetchmail: POP3 TOP
fetchmail: POP3 PIPELINING
fetchmail: POP3 USER
fetchmail: POP3 EXPIRE NEVER
fetchmail: POP3 UIDL
fetchmail: POP3 RESP-CODES
fetchmail: POP3 AUTH-RESP-CODE
fetchmail: POP3 X-MANGLE
fetchmail: POP3 X-MACRO
fetchmail: POP3 X-LOCALTIME Sun, 8 Jul 2001 20:22:01 +0200
fetchmail: POP3 .
fetchmail: POP3 USER user fetchmail: POP3 +OK Password required for user.
fetchmail: POP3 PASS * fetchmail: POP3 +OK user has 5 visible messages (0
hidden) in 15303 octets.
fetchmail: POP3 STAT
fetchmail: POP3 +OK 5 15303
fetchmail: POP3 LAST
fetchmail: POP3 +OK 0 is the last read message.
5 messages for user at pop3.account.de (15303 octets).
fetchmail: POP3 LIST fetchmail: POP3 +OK 5 visible messages (15303 octets)
fetchmail: POP3 1 4584
fetchmail: POP3 2 2555
fetchmail: POP3 3 3185
fetchmail: POP3 4 2322
fetchmail: POP3 5 2657
fetchmail: POP3 .
fetchmail: POP3 TOP 1 
fetchmail: POP3 +OK Message follows
reading message 1 of 5 (4584 octets)
.**.*fetchmail:
SIGPIPE thrown from an MDA or a stream socket error
fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)
fetchmail: normal termination, status 2
fetchmail: terminated with signal 13

i think my eximconfig and fetchmailrc are correct.



Frame buffer at boot

2001-07-08 Thread Frédéric de Villamil
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FRIACO

2001-07-08 Thread George



If anyone here has any experience with FRIACO and 
linux, or btinternet friaco in particular could you drop me an 
email.

Cheers

George


Re: apt-get/dselect-problem

2001-07-08 Thread der.hans
Am 08. Jul, 2001 schwäzte Martin Bretschneider so:

 I've got four Sid-images (from may) and wanted to update some proggies.
 But there weren't any updates for gpgme (lobgpgme0) that doesn't installed
 a config-file that is needed to compile my mua with gpg-support.
 
 Nevertheless, now I wanted to install some packages from the cds, but
 dselect wants to install them from the ftp-server I put in
 /etc/apt/sources.list:

Not sure how this will affect dselect, but comment out the ftp sites and do
an apt-get update. That will remove the entries for the ftp sites, so the
CDs should be used.

Alternative ( and cooler, but I haven't tried it ), use
/etc/apt/preferences.

If you're using apt out of woody or later, then you can use
/etc/apt/preferences. I don't know what to put to use the CDs, but look at
the man page for apt_preferences and I'd think Origin is what needs to be
used.

For a further alternative if preferences doesn't work out well and this is
something you run into a lot look at:

http://home.pages.de/~lufthans/unix/

You want the security, testing and unstable updater for debian. It's easy
enough to tweak one of those to become apt-cd.

Again, not certain how this would work with dselect, but once you've updated
appropriately you could use apt-get install packagename or apt-cd install
packagename.

ciao,

der.hans
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Re: How to use preferences (/etc/apt/preferences)

2001-07-08 Thread der.hans
Am 08. Jul, 2001 schwäzte Alan Chandler so:

 First - does /etc/apt/preferences file apply when you use dselect, or only
 when you use apt-get?

Don't know. Don't use dselect.

 Second - what I currently do is a) have /etc/apt/sources.list lines that
 get my packages from testing

 b) When I want packages from unstable - I manually ftp them from  
 debian.org mirror to a local mirror - manually also trying to also
 copy all the dependent packages - and refer to them with a separate   
 sources.list line.

 It seems to me that the /etc/apt/preferences file would be a better
 approach, with some lines like
 
 Package:*
 Pin: a=testing
 Pin Priority: 500
 
 Package: xxx
 Pin: a=unstable
 Pin Priority: 998
 
 Where xxx is the package name I want to install from unstable.
 
 Is this correct?
 What about the packages on which xxx depends?

That's what I would think would work. I was having probs with it when
testing a couple of weeks back.

Instead of pinning the package from unstable at 998, pin unstable below
testing, then apt-get install xxx/unstable. From then on apt updates the
package from the dist it came from, e.g. anytime that package gets updated
in unstable it will get updated, but other packages would only get updates
from testing.

This was working well for me when I was testing.

Search the list archives for posts I made a few weeks ago. I was in the
middle of testing use of preferences and posted much better info than I'm
remembering right now.

ciao,

der.hans
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Re: Printer help please!

2001-07-08 Thread Faheem Mitha


On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Andrea Vettorello wrote:

 bernard wrote:
 
  For the last three days I have been banging my head against the wall
  (don't worry dear, its as pointy as ever it was says my sympathetic
  girlfriend) trying to get my printer to work. I installed potato some
  time ago and tried to install cups, but didn't have much luck, so
  I stripped everything off and re-installed lprng. I then used apsfilter
  to configure things, the apsfilter printed a perfect test page but
  when I used lprnothing! I tried with printtool which printed a
  test ascii direct to the port but under lpr the printer muttered a
  bit and then stopped. 

 Not an expert here, but i'm using pdq/xpd (tracking unstable =) with a
 stylus color 880 and works quite well with the ghostscript stp driver.

Another option is to compile a deb from a more recent version of cups
sources in testing/unstable. I don't think cups has much by way of
dependencies, so this should be straightforward. I use cups on my old SuSE
system and really like it. If your printer is a recent postscript printer
then cups is the way to go because it can read ppd files, and then your
printer will have all the functionality it has under Windows, which is
nice. And cups has a really nice front-end called qtcups.

However, even if your printer is not postscript, you can still get it to
work. There are some nice articles about cups out there, some available off
www.linuxprinting.org. I seem to remember mandrakeuser had an article. Try
going to google and doing a search for cups printing.

When I got my current HP 2100M back around Christmas, I spent several days
going through all the available printing software (there is a nice listing
with links of linuxprinting.org). Fortunately, I had the time, since I was
on vacation. I first tried plain lpr with apsfilter, then I tried lprng,
then pdq, and finally tried cups, which I liked so much I threw everything
else out and stuck with it. And I made my own rpm for SuSE from the source
rpm on the cups web site, since the cups source rpm was a bit of a mess,
and seemed by default more designed for Redhat type systems. But you've
got Debian (three cheers for Debian) so you won't have those problems.

I use potato and this is what I am going to do for my new Debian system.
Hope this helps.

   Faheem.



Re: FRIACO

2001-07-08 Thread Martin Rowe
On Sunday 08 July 2001 19:30, George wrote:
 If anyone here has any experience with FRIACO and linux, or btinternet
 friaco in particular could you drop me an email.

 Cheers

 George

I have a couple of hours experience - is that enough? ;-) Just switched 
over from Freeserve Unlimited to their Anytime service that runs on 
FIASCO (or something like that) and it seems to be fine so far. Just 
switched the number in /etc/wvdial.conf - no other changes required.

Regards, Martin
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Re: Not Debian related. wvdial

2001-07-08 Thread D-Man
On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 08:54:17AM -0400, Wayne wrote:
| The output from wvdial 21 | tee wvdial.out
[...]
| The output from ifconfig ---
[...]
| ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
|   inet addr:216.204.114.201  P-t-P:216.204.109.6
| Mask:255.255.255.255
[...]
| The output from   route -n
[...]

This all looks good.  wvdial was talking with your modem, got the
login prompts from your ISP and started up PPP.  ifconfig shows that
you have a connection.

| After I do all this I then start Netscape and try to go to some web page.
| The responds I get it that Netscape is unable to locate the web page.
| 
| I tried to telnet into my isp, but I get host name undefind. I don't
| know which file telnet is looking into for the host name.

You have a connection now.  Now all you need is to set up DNS (Domain
Name Service).  Add a line in /etc/resolv.conf that looks like

nameserver 129.21.3.17

then telnet, netscape, etc, will know where to look to figure out what
IP address belongs to the name you told it.  If you were to try
specifying an IP instead of a name it would have worked for you.

-D



NO! chmod strikes!

2001-07-08 Thread JoshNarins

I tried, in a subdir of /root, the command
chmod -R o-rwx .*
It changed the permissions on the parent directory,
the parent's parent directory, all the way up.

Now only root can use my computer.

Was chmod supposed to understand .* so differently
than /bin/ls does?

I am running 2.2.19-pre17 on i586

-josh


Re: NO! chmod strikes!

2001-07-08 Thread D-Man
On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 04:17:34PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
| I tried, in a subdir of /root, the command
| chmod -R o-rwx .*
| It changed the permissions on the parent directory,
| the parent's parent directory, all the way up.

Yes, '.* includes .. which is the parent directory.

| Now only root can use my computer.
|
| Was chmod supposed to understand .* so differently
| than /bin/ls does?

No, it doesn't.  ls shows the same thing (ls -R anyways).

chmod the stuff back to where it should be ;-).

-D



no swap

2001-07-08 Thread G.LeeJ
huh?..all of a sudden I see I have NO swap file..at least according
to my gnonme system info menu option..

I know I have a swap partition..or used to or so I thought one was
created when I installed progeny?...but according to /proc/partitions
its only 1 block long


thanks
lee
-



Installing device drivers

2001-07-08 Thread David Meiser
I recently have decided to install Debian on my computer after a long 
absence from the Linux world.  However, I bought a cheap Winmodem and 
after a long, involved search I have actually found a device driver for 
Linux.  After consulting with a couple of friends, none of us were able 
to figure out, remember, or actually find (in the man pages) how to 
install device drivers for hardware not supported in the kernel.  I have 
not actually installed Debian yet (because of the modem), I can install 
the driver during the install.


Basically, my question comes down to this:  if I put the driver on to a 
3.5 diskette, does it need to be zipped (as I downloaded it) or unzipped?


Thank you...DAVE



KDE 2.1.1 for potato?

2001-07-08 Thread Bernard Reißberg

BeRnArD29ReIsSbErG04IlMeNaU1980

Hi people!

Does somebody knows, if  there are debs of KDE 2.1.1 for potato available on 
their servers? I've found it on the the sourceforge-mirror of kde.org, but I 
don't know if it is wise, to download it from there. Can somebody give me a 
hint? 

Thanks a lot!!!


Bernard
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Re: [users] Harddrives not mounting properly

2001-07-08 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 02:21:31AM +0200, Joost Kooij wrote:
...
 You may also 
 
  addgroup dos
  grep dos /etc/group  # say it is 123
 
 Then put these options in /etc/fstab:
 
  rw,gid=123,umask=002,mode=770
 
 For any $user that is allowed write access:
 
  adduser $user dos

or better don't add $user to group dos, but instead put a simple
password on group dos and have any user that needs to write do:

   $ sg dos
   passwd
   $ do-whatever-needed-write-access-to-windows-partition
   $ exit

or even better

   $ sg -c whatever-needed-write-access-to-windows-partition
   passwd

This way it's easy to have the windows partition only writable for
the duration of the one command that needed it, and fully write
protected otherwise.

The password thing in this case is not primarilly for securety
reasons, it's there to make it possible for non-group members to
become one temporarily.  On the other hand, the part of not being a
group member upon login *is* a securety measure.

With this setup my kids can easily move their drawings to and from the
windows partition [still needed for optimal printing results:(] and at
the same time the windows partition is protected from most silly
mistakes. They know to take special care when using the sg trick,
as do I.

-- 
groetjes, carel



Re: KDE 2.1.1 for potato?

2001-07-08 Thread CM
On Sunday 08 July 2001 16:29, Bernard Reißberg wrote:
 BeRnArD29ReIsSbErG04IlMeNaU1980

 Hi people!

 Does somebody knows, if  there are debs of KDE 2.1.1 for potato available
 on their servers? I've found it on the the sourceforge-mirror of kde.org,
 but I don't know if it is wise, to download it from there. Can somebody
 give me a hint?

At one point i had to get them from sid, however they may be in woody now but 
they wont be found in potato as it is frozen. On the other hand I have been  
wrong before : )

CM
 Thanks a lot!!!


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Re: KDE 2.1.1 for potato?

2001-07-08 Thread Faheem Mitha


On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Bernard Rei_berg wrote:

 
 BeRnArD29ReIsSbErG04IlMeNaU1980
 
 Hi people!
 
 Does somebody knows, if there are debs of KDE 2.1.1 for potato
 available on their servers? I've found it on the the
 sourceforge-mirror of kde.org, but I don't know if it is wise, to
 download it from there. Can somebody give me a hint?

Get the potato sources from kde.debian.net. I downloaded yesterday and it
worked flawlessly for me. I had to do no manual intervention at all. The
sources.list (apt-get) lines are listed on the main page. However, I think
it is now KDE 2.1.2.

 Faheem.



Re: KDE 2.1.1 for potato?

2001-07-08 Thread Brendan O'Connor
On Sunday 08 July 2001 15:29, Bernard Reißberg wrote:
 BeRnArD29ReIsSbErG04IlMeNaU1980

 Hi people!

 Does somebody knows, if  there are debs of KDE 2.1.1 for potato available
 on their servers? I've found it on the the sourceforge-mirror of kde.org,
 but I don't know if it is wise, to download it from there. Can somebody
 give me a hint?

 Thanks a lot!!!


 Bernard

Try kde.debian.net, or else kde.tdyc.com.  They have apt-lines and everything.



Re: Not Debian related. wvdial

2001-07-08 Thread Brendan O'Connor
On Saturday 07 July 2001 17:42, Kent West wrote:

 I don't know how familiar you are with Linux, so let me ask the first
 obvious question: is your modem a so-called winmodem? If so, you're
 not likely to ever get it to work with Redhat (or Debian, or BeOS, or
 OS/2, or anything except what the manufacture decides to let you use
 with it). Winmodems and winprinters are, in my estimation, absolute trash.

I disagree.  I have a Lucent winmodem on two machines and I've gotten it to 
work on both.  Granted, it's a special case, because they've released a 
half-open source driver (it can be recompiled for a different kernel version, 
but uses a propreitary library) but hey, it works great for me.  And there's 
even an installation script that makes a deb package!

limodem.org, i believe... marvin stodolsky's website for the lucent driver 
specifically.

--Brendan



Re: [OT] Harassment of open source developer !

2001-07-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 07:04:32PM -0400, Carl Fink ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 05:39:33PM -0400, Jason Healy wrote:
  Probably because if you don't protect your trademarks in this country,
  they fall into the public domain.  That's why you can say asprin
  when you want to cure a headache (because Bayer didn't defend its
  trademark) . . . 
 
 Urban myth.  Actually the trademark was invalidated after World War One (in
 the Versaille Treaty, according to some sources I've seen) because Bayer was
 a German company.  It's still a valid mark in Europe.

Not sure if it was after the treaty or during the war.  The US branch of
the company was liquidated/nationalized/appropriated by the US, and the
trademark voided, according to several different angles I've heard.
I've researched this casually a few times over the years but never
really found a definitive answer, odd, as it's such a striking example
of trademark loss.

Loss of a trademark is not altogether straightforward, Adobe appears to
be acting overly aggressively in this case.

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Re: How do I clear out a list

2001-07-08 Thread Brendan O'Connor
On Friday 06 July 2001 13:32, Brian Schramm wrote:
 I did a apt-get update.  Acually I followed the instructions on
 www.progeny.com web site.  For your instructions, would that install them
 or remove them?

 Brian

As others said, you need to do an update from dselect, because apt and 
dselect don't use the same database to keep track of updates.

Enjoy.
--Brendan



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