Paquet Debian pour Prélude...
Je viens de commencer à préparer un paquet Debian pour Prélude... Le petit Hic c'est que les docs de Prélude sont plus que légères (version 1.0). Si quelqu'un à fait une doc ou un man... frenchy 8-) -- M. Cyrille Mescam
Re: Paquet Debian pour Prélude...
Cyrille Mescam wrote: Je viens de commencer à préparer un paquet Debian pour Prélude... Le petit Hic c'est que les docs de Prélude sont plus que légères (version 1.0). Si quelqu'un à fait une doc ou un man... Je crois que le mieux serait de s'adresser à la liste de diffusion d'aide sur Prelude : http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/prelude-list ou encore sur la liste de développement : http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/prelude-devel Tu auras plus de chance d'y trouver des utilisateurs/développeurs de Prélude qu'ici AMA. Fred
numlock au démarrage de X
je n'arrive pas à configurer X pour avoir le numlock on au démarrage de gdm y a-t-il une option dans XFConfig-4 (je suis sous xfree 4.1.0), une ligne de commande dans xinitrc ou xserverrc, une option de startx,...?? xset led 1 ou xset -d :0 led 1 ne marchent pas. Merci -- \|||/ (0 0) +o00---(_)---+ | GDem3 | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Linux means productivity and | | fun; NT means Not Today. | +-o00+ |__|__| || || oo0 0oo
Re: Parcours réseau et portable
Frédéric Bothamy wrote: [snip] Il y a le paquet Debian divine qui semble exactement faire ce que tu recherches. Il me semble avoir vu passer un package équivalent sur cette liste (debian-french), mais je ne retrouve rien dans les archives de la liste et comme je n'en ai pas l'utilité, n'ayant pas de portable, je n'ai jamais testé ... Bon, il me semble avoir retrouvé ce package, ce doit être laptop-netconf. Fred
[HS] perte de la table des partitions d'un disque dure
Ceci n'est pas un pbm spécifique debian mais je me permet d'envoyer un message sur cette liste car je n'ai trouvé aucune solution ailleurs et j'ai pu constater depuis trois mois que je suis abonné à la ML que de grande compétences sont rassemblées ici. Voilà le pbm : Il y a deux jours, suite à de nombreux pbms, j'ai voulu réinstallé win2k sur mon pc. Le dd sur lequel l'installation s'est effectué possèdait deux partition physique windows (en fat 32) et deux partitions linux (une physique et une étendue) pour ma debian. Sur la première partition windows, le système ancien et sur la deuxième, toutes mes données perso sauvegardées. Je formate la première partition puis je réinstalle le système (jusque là, pas de pbm). Lorsque je relance : pbm, win2k ne trouve pas la deuxième partition. J'essaye de chercher d'où vient le pbm et après avoir ouvert je ne sais plus quel outil trouvé dans le dossier panneau de configuration, je tombe sur un outil qui me donne l'état de mes partitions. Il se trouve que celle que je cherche est marqué inactive (ou quelque chose comme ça). Je fait un clic droit pour avoir de plus amples informations et j'obtiens un menu qui me dis (entre autres) : activer la partition. Donc je clic sur activer la partition, et là : plus rien : le système se bloque, je n'ai plus accès à aucun fichier. Je redémarre l'ordinateur et celui-ci ne veut rien savoir. J'ai réussi à redémarrer mon pc avec un ancien dd et j'ai essayé de voir ce qu'il y avait sur le dd planté. Il n'a rien trouvé comme ça. J'ai trouvé un utilitaire nommé getdataback qui après 4h de scanne à trouvé la plupart de mes fichier mais ce n'est qu'un shareware et la license de 500F pour pouvoir faire une copie des fichiers retrouvés me fait mal au coeur. Si quelqu'un à une solution, qu'il n'hésite pas à me contacter (voir ci- dessous), je suis preneur. Pour plus de renseignements, n'hésitez pas non plus. Par avance, un grand merci à tous ceux qui pourront m'aider. Yann Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06 63 92 58 54 PS : je ne touche plus à ce dd pour le moment (je n'ai rien réinstallé, rien formaté ) j'ai win98 et une distrib caldera sur le disque dure qui tourne actuellement donc toutes solutions sur l'un ou l'autre de ces systèmes d'exploitations est la bienvenue Yann Klein http://yannklein.free.fr (site en construction)
Re: [HS] perte de la table des partitions d'un disque dure
Salut! Si tu veux recuperer les donnes sur une partition dont le FS est ext2 ou FFS, tu peux utiliser ceci: http://www.porcupine.org/forensics/tct.html Eric On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Yann Klein wrote: Ceci n'est pas un pbm spécifique debian mais je me permet d'envoyer un message sur cette liste car je n'ai trouvé aucune solution ailleurs et j'ai pu constater depuis trois mois que je suis abonné à la ML que de grande compétences sont rassemblées ici. Voilà le pbm : Il y a deux jours, suite à de nombreux pbms, j'ai voulu réinstallé win2k sur mon pc. Le dd sur lequel l'installation s'est effectué possèdait deux partition physique windows (en fat 32) et deux partitions linux (une physique et une étendue) pour ma debian. Sur la première partition windows, le système ancien et sur la deuxième, toutes mes données perso sauvegardées. Je formate la première partition puis je réinstalle le système (jusque là, pas de pbm). Lorsque je relance : pbm, win2k ne trouve pas la deuxième partition. J'essaye de chercher d'où vient le pbm et après avoir ouvert je ne sais plus quel outil trouvé dans le dossier panneau de configuration, je tombe sur un outil qui me donne l'état de mes partitions. Il se trouve que celle que je cherche est marqué inactive (ou quelque chose comme ça). Je fait un clic droit pour avoir de plus amples informations et j'obtiens un menu qui me dis (entre autres) : activer la partition. Donc je clic sur activer la partition, et là : plus rien : le système se bloque, je n'ai plus accès à aucun fichier. Je redémarre l'ordinateur et celui-ci ne veut rien savoir. J'ai réussi à redémarrer mon pc avec un ancien dd et j'ai essayé de voir ce qu'il y avait sur le dd planté. Il n'a rien trouvé comme ça. J'ai trouvé un utilitaire nommé getdataback qui après 4h de scanne à trouvé la plupart de mes fichier mais ce n'est qu'un shareware et la license de 500F pour pouvoir faire une copie des fichiers retrouvés me fait mal au coeur. Si quelqu'un à une solution, qu'il n'hésite pas à me contacter (voir ci- dessous), je suis preneur. Pour plus de renseignements, n'hésitez pas non plus. Par avance, un grand merci à tous ceux qui pourront m'aider. Yann Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06 63 92 58 54 PS : je ne touche plus à ce dd pour le moment (je n'ai rien réinstallé, rien formaté ) j'ai win98 et une distrib caldera sur le disque dure qui tourne actuellement donc toutes solutions sur l'un ou l'autre de ces systèmes d'exploitations est la bienvenue Yann Klein http://yannklein.free.fr (site en construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HS] perte de la table des partitions d'un disque dure
Yann Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Je formate la première partition puis je réinstalle le système (jusque là, pas de pbm). Lorsque je relance : pbm, win2k ne trouve pas la deuxième partition. J'essaye de chercher d'où vient le pbm et après avoir ouvert je ne sais plus quel outil trouvé dans le dossier panneau de configuration, je tombe sur un outil qui me donne l'état de mes partitions. Il se trouve que celle que je cherche est marqué inactive (ou quelque chose comme ça). Window$ trouve bien la partition apparement puisqu'on peut la passer en active. Mais il n'y a aucune raison qu'il reconnaisse qu'il y a un système de fichier dessus c'est beaucoup trop lui demander. Ça ne m'etonnerais pas que les partitions Linux soient intactes. Il suffirait de booter dessus avec une disquette de boot ou à défaut d'utiliser un tombsrtbt ou un demolinux. Si on passe par une distrib comme tombsrtbt et s'il y a une config lilo, on peut la réactiver en montant la partition sur un /mnt et lancer un 'lilo -R /mnt' (de mémoire pour l'option). Ou alors une disquette avec grub dessus devrait pouvoir booter à peu près n'importe quoi à condition de savoir exactement comment étaient les partitions avant. Pour récupérer le boot sur Window$, je ne sais pas. -- Laurent Pelecq
Re: Ayuda configurar tarjeta de sonido [Debian woody)
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Jose Manuel wrote: Hola colegas; Tengo instalada debian wooy y estoy tratando de configurar la tarjeta de sonido. El caso es que tengo instalado todos los modulos -sound, soundcore, soundlow, y sb, pero no me deja instalar adlib_card (FM synthetizer for YM3812/OPL-3 support) con la opcion io=0388, lo he 0x388 en todo caso intentado de todas maneras pero no lo consigo, me da el siguiente error: --- /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/adlib_card.o: unresolved symbol opl3_init_R9334a7fc /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/adlib_card.o: unresolved symbol opl3_detect_R67481767 - Debido a ello solamente puedo escuchar los cd's pero en los juegos como doom, quake, abuse, etc, no escucho el sonido. No sera algo de permisos o configuracion, si el esd esta andando dale un esdsp antes del comando para que tire el sonido por ahi. Tengo una soundblaster 16 plugplay. En resumen me falta por instalar el midi. Si alguien puede echarme un cable agradecido. Tambien me da fallo Esta tarjeta no tiene sonido midi. la tarjeta me dice que el test de la irq 5 falla, pero se carga, sin problemas. La tengo configurada con opciones (io=240, irq=5 dma=3 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330) Con otros parametros no me funciona he probado de todo. Le doy lspci -v para ver los parametros, pero no sale listada a que puede ser debido todo esto. Puede ser porque la tarjeta es ISA. Tienes que usar isapnp, o mas facil kernel 2.4 con soporte isapnp. Si me podeis ayudar agradecido. Saludos Jose -- Las heridas que te causa quien te quiere, son preferibles a los besos engañadores de quien te odia. -- Salomón. *** Jose Piñero/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** Linux Debian Woody ** Counter linux: 49618-32128 *** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: latex
Gracias a todos los que respondieron mi pregunta sobre PDF. La mejor opcion parece ser usar latex y despues convertir. Me gustaria saber donde puedo conseguir un tutorial, manual o lo que sea para dar mis primeros pasos en latex. Otra pregunta que se me ocurrio (perdonen si es una estupidez, soy novato) es si se puede de algun modo usar las fuentes TTF de Win en linux. Desde ya muchas gracias Talvez sea mejor usar directamente pdflatex
Re: reiserfs
y la verdad es que no se por que? y aunque algunos de la lista no le vean ninguna ventaja yo no le veo nada en contra. de hecho funciona muy bien... es rapido no hay demoras ni problemas con fsck, es mas muchas veces me paso que luego de apagarse mal la computadora el fsck no era capaz de arreglar la situacion siendo necesario hacerlo a mano y mas de una vez perdi algun archivo, con reiserfs jamas me paso algo parecido. saludos, Diego El Sun, 9 Sep 2001 01:25:13 -0300 Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribio: Tenia pensado cambiarme, pero han llegado tantos mails a fabor y en contra que ahora no se que hacer. Igual gracias por la ayuda y si me decido luego te cuento como me fue. Saludos. On Thu 06 Sep 2001 20:44, Diego Alvarez wrote: El Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:14:56 -0300 Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribio: Alguien sabe si vale la pena el reiserfs, y si es posible cambiar el formato de la particion de ext2 a reiserfs sin tener que reinstalar todo. Gracias de antemano y saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] sip... vale la pena... yo lo vengo usande desde hace un tiempo y funciona un kilo, realmente anda muy bien. pero para cambiar de ext2 a reiserfs sin perder datos lo que tenes que hacer es compilarte el kernel con soporte reiserfs, formatear una particion disponible con reiserfs, copiar todo tu sistema a esa particion, ajustar tu /etc/fstab y el lilo para que puedas arrancar con esa otra particion, y desde alli formateas con reiserfs la particion que tenias antes le copias todo el sistema le volves a acomodar /etc/fstab reconfiguras lilo y listo. te quita un buen rato de trabajo... pero es mejor que reinstalar y reconfigurar todo el sistema. saludos, Diego.
Re: Kernel propio.
Lo siento, Imobach, por un problema con Opera, en mi anterior respuesta no iba lo que yo quería. Aquí te vá lo que te decía: Gracias por tu respuesta Imobach. Gracias también a una amable persona del debian-user (nuestra lista pero en ingles) que en referencia a este tema del make-kpkg me dirigíó a esta dirección: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.en.html Por cierto, Jesse, que así se llama mi interlocutor, me pidió disculpas por tener preparado este tutorial solo en inglés. Y entonces yo le ofrecí que al estar también aquí (en debian-user-spanish), dejaría caer que si hay alguien interesado en realizar una traducción al español de dicho documento. Su dirección de correo está al pricipio de la página mencionada. Saludos. Jose Luis. Debian Progeny 1.0 Newton. Usuario Linux registrado #213309. Una vez más cabalgaré con mis caballeros, para defender lo que fue.. y el sueño de lo que pudo ser. _ El correo GRATUITO en tu idioma y con múltiples beneficios. Obtén tu CorreoWeb del Foco ahora en http://elfoco.correoweb.com
Re: Mensaje a Telefonos Moviles
Hola Odio decir eso, pero en mi página de la firma hay un programa cutre hecho en perl que hace eso, a través de navegalia el programa está en catalan, pero lo tengo traducido al hdd mio, despues lo subo (si no lo he subido en 5 horas y alguien lo quiere enviadme un mail que lo subo, por si me despisto) ah, y en castellano he visto 2 más o 3 y uno me gustaba más que el mio, pero los he perdido hasta pronto On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, felipe fernandez wrote: Recuerdo que en una ocasion se habló de este tema pero he debido borrar los mensajes. ¿Algún software para que pueda enviar mensajes a moviles desde mi pc-debian? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carles Pina i Estany | Nick: Pinux / Pine / Teufeus http://www.salleURL.edu/~is08139/ Yo me llamo Duracell... es mi nombre de pila.
Re: Mensaje a Telefonos Moviles
Si no te fias de las pasarelas gratuitas via web de los operadores, de gsmspain y cosas así, puedes enviarlos directamente con cualquier telefono que esté soportado por gnokii (www.gnokii.org) o con cualquier modem gsm o telefono que lo incluya (cable de datos obligatorio en ambos casos). gnokii smslink + libmodem alamin-client + alamin-server kannel ... El 09 Sep 2001 a las 07:58AM +0100, felipe fernandez escribio: Recuerdo que en una ocasion se habló de este tema pero he debido borrar los mensajes. ¿Algún software para que pueda enviar mensajes a moviles desde mi pc-debian? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lee la comparecencia de Kriptopolis ante el Senado acerca de la LSSI, es importante. http://www.kriptopolis.com/26525278.html Andres Seco Hernandez- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MCP ID 445900 - http://andressh.alamin.org GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/3A48C934 E61C 08A9 EBC8 12E4 F363 E359 EDAC BE0B 3A48 C934 -- Alamin GSM SMS Gateway - http://www.alamin.org Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org Grupo de Usuarios de GNU/Linux de Guadalajara y alrededores - http://gulalcarria.sourceforge.net -- pgp1WIGPxD4cm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re[3]: No puedo instalar potato 2.2 r0
Málaga a domingo, 09 de septiembre de 2001 11:03:12 Hola, Kryxto. El WinRar siempre me ha abierto bien los archivos tar. He abierto muchas veces archivos tgz sin problemas, y he podido leer los readme cuando no he estado en Linux. Me lo he bajado ese archivo de Internet y ahora si que se abre correctamente, por lo que ese estaba en mal estado. Ahora si he podido instalar Debian gracias a ese archivo, pero no puedo configurar Xwindow, cuando lo hace intenta probar una VGA16, sin darme opción a elegir monitor, tarjeta gráfica ni resolución. ¿Cómo se hace en Debian? En Mandrake ejecuto setup en líne a de comandos, y me sale un configurador. El sábado, 08 de septiembre de 2001, 23:57:10, escribiste: K Hola, heissu. K Como estoy en Windows he probado a abrirlo con el WinRar, y me abre el K primero, pero al intentar abrir el tar que hay dentro, me dice: error de CRC K por dos veces, y me dice que el documento está corrupto. De todas formas lo K abre y aparece una carpeta sin nombre que al abrirla hay dos carpetas K llamadas etc y usr, y las dos están llenas de carpetas y archivos. K Debe haber sido grabado mal el disco. K Muchas gracias. K Winrar es un compresor de archivos. Tu estás intentando abrir primero un K fichero comprimido (lo hace correctamente). Luego intentas abrir un tar, es K decir, un fichero empaquetado, no un fichero comprimido, por lo que te da el K error. Aunque te lo dé, parece que puedes ver lo que hay dentro, todos esos K archivos. K Saludos K KRYXTO -- Un saludo de Willy Walker :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] o [EMAIL PROTECTED] Málaga, España -Almacén y Página Web: http://www.llermano.com -Linux user 100651 -Lista programas-gratis http://es.egroups.com/group/programas-gratis -Ignorante no es el que no sabe, si no el que no quiere saber.
Indicador conexion/modem
Hola Buenos Dias! Me pregunto como puedo ver, si ya mi modem se ha conectado al servidor y a que velocidad. Seguro que existe algun programa o algun comando. Como siempre, han hecho, disimulen mi ignorancia. BTD Obtenha o seu email gratis na Comunidade Lusofona! Portugal em Linha - http://www.portugal-linha.pt
Re: Mensaje a Telefonos Moviles
Existe un paquete de debian que sirve para enviar mensajes SMS desde internet llamado: smssend, realmente lo que hace es conectarse a una página web que los envía pero sin usar un navegador, es decir desde la consola. Pero necesita que crees un archivo de configuración. Me he bajado enviasms y smsLinux pero no los he visto aun, se que son dos programitas en Tcl/tk y que el primero envía los SMS usando la página de navegalia. Por último tambien hay otro que se llama smsclient, pero la verdad es que no se nada de el (solo que existe), porque al buscar el nombre del paquete smssend: apt-cache search SMS --- (instrucción para buscar paquetes debian sobre un tema determinado ha aparecido su nombre.
Re: Mensaje a Telefonos Moviles
Recuerdo que en una ocasion se habló de este tema pero he debido borrar los mensajes. ¿Algún software para que pueda enviar mensajes a moviles desde mi pc-debian? Yo he creado en perl un script similar al 'winsms' de windows pero para consola. Tiene soporte para multiples servidores (creo que 7 la ultima version) aparte de muchas otras caracteristicas y por ahora funciona bastante bien, puedes bajarlo en: http://www.sumidero.f2s.com/linuxsms Z0MBiE / ELiTE (visit us at http://move.to/elite-hq)
Re: Mensaje a Telefonos Moviles
Hola Me he bajado enviasms y smsLinux pero no los he visto aun, se que son dos programitas en Tcl/tk y que el primero envía los SMS usando la página de navegalia. puedes pasar la URL? El de mi firma solo puede usar Navegalia, tiene agenda, y parte el mensaje en varios mensajes si pasa el límite máximo de Navegalia. Tambien permite multienvio (es decir, enviar de una vez a varios números). Tiene interfaz en menús muy cutre (pero la gente lo pedía) aunque se puede usar (al menos el de mi disco duro, no sé si el que tengo en web tambien) así: echo mensaje | ./sms04c numero Y diría que es lo más relevante del mio Sobre el linuxsms.pl que se ha comentado por aquí, me está gustando mucho los coloridos y presentación :-) (en serio XD) y el soporte para varias pasarelas; ta muy bien tambien (sobretodo por lo palo que es ir implementado varios proveedores) Venga, suerte a los usuarios de enviadores de sms que hay de chulos veo y que funcionan... Carles Pina i Estany | Nick: Pinux / Pine / Teufeus http://www.salleURL.edu/~is08139/ Como dije antes, nunca me repito
Re: latex (y PDF :)
holas, Me gustaria saber donde puedo conseguir un tutorial, manual o lo que sea para dar mis primeros pasos en latex. si empiezas en latex, usa lyx, puedes encontrar suma documentación en: http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/ Otra pregunta que se me ocurrio (perdonen si es una estupidez, soy novato) es si se puede de algun modo usar las fuentes TTF de Win en linux. quizás te interesen los siguientes paquetes: xfstt TrueType Font Server for X11 libttf2 FreeType 1, The FREE TrueType Font Engine, shared library files. respecto a los pdf's tienes la siguiente documentación: http://theory.gsi.de/~vanhees/pdf-howto.html yo siempre pruebo una de las siguientes opciones: ps2pdf -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress documento.ps documento.pdf dvips -P pdf -t a4 -o documento.ps documento.dvi dvipdf documento.dvi documento.pdf pdfjadetex documento.tex el problema básico para conseguir un buen pdf son las fuentes escalables, el problema es que está solucionado a partir del Ghostscript 6 y en Debian el paquete ofical aún es 5.5 (creo que se habló de ello en debian-devel recientemente) en tonces la solución (si las fuentes en el pdf no te salen vectoriales) pasaria por instalarte el gs-aladdin (non-free :( salutforça jaume teixi
Re: Re[3]: No puedo instalar potato 2.2 r0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A Sunday 09 September 2001 11:09, Willy Walker va escriure: Málaga a domingo, 09 de septiembre de 2001 11:03:12 Hola, Kryxto. El WinRar siempre me ha abierto bien los archivos tar. He abierto muchas veces archivos tgz sin problemas, y he podido leer los readme cuando no he estado en Linux. Me lo he bajado ese archivo de Internet y ahora si que se abre correctamente, por lo que ese estaba en mal estado. Ahora si he podido instalar Debian gracias a ese archivo, pero no puedo configurar Xwindow, cuando lo hace intenta probar una VGA16, sin darme opción a elegir monitor, tarjeta gráfica ni resolución. ¿Cómo se hace en Debian? En Mandrake ejecuto setup en líne a de comandos, y me sale un configurador. Hola por lo que dices estas intentrando configurar las xfree-3.3.6, estas te instalan dicho servidor por defecto pero lo que tienes que hacer es buscar el paquete con el servidor que necessitas (para mi Matrox-G200 seria el xserxver-svga), eso lo encontraras en la documentación de las X y luego instalate tambien uno que te facilitara muchgo las cosas pero no me acuerdo del nombre leete las cabezeras en dselect y lo encontraras, el comando del paquete es XF86Config, creo, por si te sirve de ayuda. Te ofrecerà una configuración gràfica muy currada y acertada con casi todos los tipos de hardware actales. - -- Sort Antoni Bella Perez | # [Pàgina de traduccions del nucli Linux]| # http://www.terra.es/personal7/bella5/traduccions.htm # [Traduciones al catalan del Nucleo Linux]| ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## i col·laborador del projecte Debian en català: debian.org/index.ca.htm Maquinari: - Pentium II 300MHz 128MB memòria 599.65 bogomips Sistema: - Debian GNU/Linux-2.4.9 - XFree86 4.1.0-5 - - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7m4K9GfXdVUGHvegRAm9wAJ9gFui05nfOdGuA3CJ7ybpIlVY29wCdFeIW JlYFp1Ogsb6YGpxykfIwk0I= =0RCC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: latex
Pablo Serrano wrote: Gracias a todos los que respondieron mi pregunta sobre PDF. La mejor opcion parece ser usar latex y despues convertir. Me gustaria saber donde puedo conseguir un tutorial, manual o lo que sea para dar mis primeros pasos en latex. En /usr/share/texmf/doc/index.html en tu instalacion encontraras documentacion por doquier. Busca Not short introduction to LaTeX2e. Otra pregunta que se me ocurrio (perdonen si es una estupidez, soy novato) es si se puede de algun modo usar las fuentes TTF de Win en linux. En CervanTeX hay un buen documento de tipografias escrito por Javier Bezos, AFAIR. URL: http://apolo.us.es/CervanTeX/CervanTeX.html Las FAQ son muy utiles, es seguro que encontraras respuesta rapida a mucha de tus inquietudes. -- German Poo Caaman~o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubiobio.cl/~gpoo/chilelindo.html La historia no se lee, se escribe
Re: reiserfs
On 8 Sep 2001, MaX in the FaX wrote: On Sat, 2001-09-08 at 10:51, Antonio Castro wrote: No hace falta /boot Para mi que no tiene sentido pero decir que se usa un / de 2GB sin /boot me parece una barbaridad. La partición raiz ha de ser pequeña. Si ocurre algun tipo de problema sea cual sea que ocurra en cualquier otra partición y a mayor tamaño mayor peligro no ? una otra forma es haber una distro de recupero en Cd como RIP Eso suena interesante. RedHat tenía una pero era un CD tipo tarjeta de credito. Porque no incluir mas soft. Yo pondría una amplia variedad de kernels para arrancar y muchos de ellos compilados estaticamente. No se como se podría hacer para que pudiera arrancar montando como raiz una partición cualquiera, o en caso necesario usar un sistema de ficheros raiz montado en ram. A demas incluiria todo tipo de software de backup, recuperación, y todo tipo de utilidades. En el CD de RedHat no venía afio que es con lo que yo hago mis copias de esguridad. Te pongo solo un ejemplo. Un corte de luz puede dejar un serctor a medio escribir. A mi me pasó. Con ext2 cada vez que arrancaba tenía que chequear todo el sistema de ficheros porque nunca lo detectaba como limpio. cut- hardware también puede fallar. 2GB para / a mi no me gusta nada. si lo se, pero yo antes he probado en una maquina de test y con esta forma no he tenido ningún problemas. Mi test?... 1. copiar un directorio con miles de fichero el una otra particción y a mitad... cortar la luz!! :-) arranque, sin problema y he podido conprobar que estuba corructo solo un fiquero. esta prueba la he repedida 5 vezes. Tus pruebas están muy bien. No todo el mundo se toma tantas molestias para probar su hardware pero es muy dificil contemplar todas las posibilidades de fallo. No todos los discos y controladores son iguales. 5 veces es una cantidad muy pequeña. El corte de luz es solo un ejemplo. Otro ejemplo podría ser avería en la controladora. Cuantas controladoras de disco has averiado para comprobar que ocurre con los datos cuando se averían ? Hay otras pruebas que no te recomiendo hacer. Por ejemplo poner la máquina a recuperar un backup y en medio del proceso darle un golpe muy fuerte al ordenador. Hacer esa prueba son ganas de romper el material pero cosas así tambien pueden pasra por accidente. ...bueno es todos, no es mucho pero para un uso casero es mucho mas de lo que ofreze ext2. El uso casero significa que si te quedas tres días sin máquina no pasa nada pero ese no es mi caso. Yo tendría que cerrar mi negocio durante esos días. ...tienes una maquina de test? Ese tipo de pruebas y otras las hago con las maquinas y discos recien comprados. Tengo tres torres, una mini torre y un portatil pero hacer pruebas lleva mucho tiempo y de eso tengo poco. Salvo mi máquina principal que es de hace 9 meses las demás tienen varios añitos. No conseguí terminar de instalar Maximum pero no fue culpa de la distro. Resulta que la bios es antigua y el arranque con lilo me da problemas. Quise hacer un arranque con loadlin pero tenía que meter un kernel capaz de trabajar con reiserfs. Me quedé en eso porque tuve que usar de nuevo ese equipo para dar unas clases. Tengo que volver a probar. prueba tu también... no creo que se trató solo de suerte. Lo que tu haces no me parece que esté equivocado. Las pruebas que has realizado ya te dan una seguridad bastante razonable. Usar una partición pequeña con ext2 para la partición raiz tampoco creo que esté mal. Un saludo Antonio Castro +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informática (Tienda de Linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | . . . . . . . . . . | +()()()--()()()+ | *** 1.700 sitios clasificados por temas sobre Linux en ***Donde_Linux*** | | http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html | +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Re: debs de LAME
Juan Rafael Alvarez Correa, viernes 07 de septiembre de 2001 a la(s) 12:09:02 -0500: mira ogg vorbis, un poco mas lenta la compresion pero un tamano bastante bueno, ademas el algortimo es netamente libre. Pero hay que traducir todos los mp3... $ du -s emepetreses 2407848 emepetreses [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Linux Registered User #87069 pgpKczffYT2Wh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: reiserfs
On Sun, 2001-09-09 at 10:02, Antonio Castro wrote: On 8 Sep 2001, MaX in the FaX wrote: On Sat, 2001-09-08 at 10:51, Antonio Castro wrote: No hace falta /boot Para mi que no tiene sentido pero decir que se usa un / de 2GB sin /boot me parece una barbaridad. La partición raiz ha de ser pequeña. Si ocurre algun tipo de problema sea cual sea que ocurra en cualquier otra partición y a mayor tamaño mayor peligro no ? una otra forma es haber una distro de recupero en Cd como RIP Eso suena interesante. RedHat tenía una pero era un CD tipo tarjeta de credito. Porque no incluir mas soft. Yo pondría una amplia variedad de kernels para arrancar y muchos de ellos compilados estaticamente. No se como se podría hacer para que pudiera arrancar montando como raiz una partición cualquiera, o en caso necesario usar un sistema de ficheros raiz montado en ram. A demas incluiria todo tipo de software de backup, recuperación, y todo tipo de utilidades. En el CD de RedHat no venía afio que es con lo que yo hago mis copias de esguridad. Rip puede montar particciones formateades con reiserfs, tiene mc y se puede recuperar muchas cosas. No se puede per nontar como raiz una otra particción.. tiene que estae la misma de RIP. Una otra forma es el disco de recúpero de debian... simplemente al boot se esrive mas o menos ... root=/dev/hda1 (poe ejemplo) y esto arranca si el FS es bastante íntegro. esta prueba la he repedida 5 vezes. Tus pruebas están muy bien. No todo el mundo se toma tantas molestias para probar su hardware pero es muy dificil contemplar todas las posibilidades de fallo. No todos los discos y controladores son iguales. 5 veces es una cantidad muy pequeña. El corte de luz es solo un ejemplo. Otro ejemplo podría ser avería en la controladora. Cuantas controladoras de disco has averiado para comprobar que ocurre con los datos cuando se averían ? lo se que no es mucho 5 veces, pero me he pasano toda la noche, y me he sovrado bastante... :-) Hay otras pruebas que no te recomiendo hacer. Por ejemplo poner la máquina a recuperar un backup y en medio del proceso darle un golpe muy fuerte al ordenador. Hacer esa prueba son ganas de romper el material pero cosas así tambien pueden pasra por accidente. bueno.. pero en esta forma ningún FS puede protegirte de romper del disco duro... y mucho meno ext2. ...bueno es todos, no es mucho pero para un uso casero es mucho mas de lo que ofreze ext2. El uso casero significa que si te quedas tres días sin máquina no pasa nada pero ese no es mi caso. Yo tendría que cerrar mi negocio durante esos días. ... para casero intendo que se puede instalar in casa sín problema, y también in tu oficina si hace falta de segurdad. con un backup diario, una unitá de ups, y una gestìon muy cuidada... que puede pasar? Lo que tu haces no me parece que esté equivocado. Las pruebas que has realizado ya te dan una seguridad bastante razonable. Usar una partición pequeña con ext2 para la partición raiz tampoco creo que esté mal. hay una otra forma que se usa en ambiente de ISP. /boot 5 MB ext2 / 200 MB ext2 /usr 500 MB reiserfs /var 1GB reiserfs /tmp 500 MB reiserfs /home 2GB reiserfs . en prática... todos en particciones reiserfs fuera que /boot y / ciao, MaX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Semi off-topic: Merchandasing Debian
Hola Mirando por aquí: http://www.copyleft.net/search.phtml?search=1lookup[description]=debian Hay algunas cositas que me gustan (necesito el logo de Debian típico de 1x1cm para poner el portátil que tengo uno de RedHat -años hace...- otro de Suse -años hace...- y claro, la gente me pregunta Red Hat o Suse?? no, mejor, debian... Y alguna camiseta... y paridas varias XD Hay algun lugar por aquí en España que lo vendan? Estaría bien que Antonio Castro vendiese en su tienda (vende? camisetas de Linux sí -hoy tenía puesta una suya- pero de Debian en concreto diría que no) Tambien puestos a pedir si nadie lo hace la FSF de España podría promoverlo (con donación a FSF España) quizás se sacarian algo de dinero. Venga, aquí queda eso... Carles Pina i Estany | Nick: Pinux / Pine / Teufeus http://www.salleURL.edu/~is08139/
Re: Mensaje a Telefonos Moviles
Hola.. Reenvio el mail pq no se si envio mal o no. Asi que si llega dos veces no es pq alguna url este mal, es que me he liao. http://xsendgsm.does.it http://xsendgsm.virtualave.net Ese lleva mucho tiempo publicao pero creo que ya no rula. de todas formas os envio el codigo en C de otro que si os funcionara, pq lo acabo de hacer despues de leer el mail. No me abraseis el mail si deja de funcionar.. Arregladlo vosotros.. :)) On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 02:34:12PM +0200, Javier M Mora wrote: Existe un paquete de debian que sirve para enviar mensajes SMS desde internet llamado: smssend, realmente lo que hace es conectarse a una página web que los envía pero sin usar un navegador, es decir desde la consola. Pero necesita que crees un archivo de configuración. Me he bajado enviasms y smsLinux pero no los he visto aun, se que son dos programitas en Tcl/tk y que el primero envía los SMS usando la página de navegalia. Por último tambien hay otro que se llama smsclient, pero la verdad es que no se nada de el (solo que existe), porque al buscar el nombre del paquete smssend: apt-cache search SMS --- (instrucción para buscar paquetes debian sobre un tema determinado ha aparecido su nombre. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mr.Jade [WkT!] --== http://wkt.has.it ==-- meet us at EFNET#wkt channel /* enviasms.com.c code Begin Of File * * * FILENAME : enviasms.com.c * VERSION : 0.1 * CODER(s) : Mr.Jade [WkT!] * DATE : 18/8/2K1 * ABSTRACT : Envio de sms con enviasms.com. * * * Compilar : * gcc enviasms.com.c -o enviasms * * * Uso del programa * * # enviasms.com telefono mensaje * * Para enviar emoticons etc, no olvides poner la barra \ delante del * caracter para que el parser de bash no crea que es algo que * debe analizar. * * # enviasms.com telefono hola, estoy probando esto \;\) * * License conditions: * * - You may use this code at your own risk. */ /* ---== Include section ==--- */ #include netdb.h #include arpa/inet.h /* ---== Defines section ==--- */ #define MAXDATA 512 #define VER 0.1 #define HOST www.enviasms.com #define PORT 80 #define APODO mrjade // - EDITA ESTO :) #define DOMINIO // por si los quieres incluir.. son dominio= tema= .. etc.. #define TEMA #define sinWWW #define EXT #define GET1 GET /enviasms/gateway2.php?telefono= #define GET2 mensaje= #define GET3 alias= #define GET4 HTTP/0.9\n\n /* ---== Global variables ==--- */ int sock; char *host; int port; char datax[MAXDATA]; char buffer[MAXDATA]; int cont=0; struct hostent *hp; struct sockaddr_in TheHoSt; /* ---== Procedure section ==---*/ void usage(char *pname) { printf( Uso : %s telefono mensaje,pname); printf(\n); exit(0); } unsigned long resol(char *host_name) { struct in_addr addr; struct hostent *host_ent; if((addr.s_addr = inet_addr(host_name)) == -1) { if(!(host_ent = gethostbyname(host_name))) return(0); memcpy((char *)addr.s_addr, host_ent-h_addr, host_ent-h_length); } return(addr.s_addr); } /* ---== MAIN Procedure ==--- */ int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { printf(\n); printf( Envio de sms a traves de enviasms.com.\n); printf( Programado por MrJade[WkT!]\n\n); if( argc 3) { usage(argv[0]); } host = HOST; port = PORT; //printf( Resolving host: %s\n, host); TheHoSt.sin_family = AF_INET; TheHoSt.sin_addr.s_addr = resol(host); if(!TheHoSt.sin_addr.s_addr) { printf(\n ERROR: no es posible encontrar el host\n\n); exit(-1); } //printf( Opening socket..\n ); TheHoSt.sin_port = htons(port); sock = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0); if(sock 0) { printf(\n ERROR: No es posible abrir el socket\n\n); exit(-1); } //printf( Connecting to %s on port %d\n, host, port); bzero(datax,sizeof(datax)); bzero(buffer,sizeof(buffer)); if(!connect(sock,(struct sockaddr *)TheHoSt, sizeof(TheHoSt))) { printf(\n Enviando información..\n\n); /* SEND request*/ sprintf(datax,%s%s%s%s,GET1,argv[1],GET2,argv[2]); cont=3; while (cont argc){ sprintf(datax,%s+%s,datax,argv[cont]); cont++; } sprintf(datax,%s%s%s%s\n\n,datax,GET3,APODO,GET4); //printf (%s, datax); //solo para debug send(sock,datax,strlen(datax),0); while ((recv(sock,buffer,sizeof(buffer),0)!=-1) (buffer[0] != 0)){ if (strstr(buffer, 200)){ // OK printf( Mensaje enviado con exito :)\n\n); close(sock); exit(0); } //printf(%s\n,buffer);//solo debug bzero(buffer,sizeof(buffer)); //Clear Buffer } printf( Ha ocurrido un error al enviar el mensaje :(\n\n); } else { close(sock); //Remote host will close it when finished
Re: Indicador conexion/modem
Bella Tabucci wrote: Hola Buenos Dias! Me pregunto como puedo ver, si ya mi modem se ha conectado al servidor y a que velocidad. Seguro que existe algun programa o algun comando. Como siempre, han hecho, disimulen mi ignorancia. BTD Obtenha o seu email gratis na Comunidade Lusofona! Portugal em Linha - http://www.portugal-linha.pt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yo para saber si ya se ha conectado hago un tail -f /var/log/messages que me lista dicho archivo y espera a que se incluyan más líneas en el mismo, entonces sabes que estás conectado cuando aparezcan el IP de tu servidor y el tuyo propio. Lo del tema de la velocidad, lo veo por Netscape, aunque no creo que sea muy fiable... Espero que te sirva de guía...
Re: locales y demás fauna...
Diego Martínez Castañeda wrote: hola a todos... acabo de instalar desde cero una versión inestable (woody) y todo funciona estupendamente, salvo el tema de mi amada eñe :). He probado a compilar los locales con locale-gen, a crear un nuevo directorio de local, pero no sé que hacer o donde ponerlo para que el sistema lo reconozca. He buscado en linuxdoc, en los threads de la lista (recuerdo que se trató el tema, pero no recuerdo cómo ni cuando y no lo encuentro :( ), y le he mandado un par de correos al gurú de turno... Así pues, me rindo. ¿Alguna idea? saludos diego A mi me ha funcionado bien editar el archivo /etc/locales.gen y borrar el # antes de es_ES. Luego ejecuto locales-gen y en .bashrc pongo export LC_ALL=es_ES e igual con LANGUAGE, LC_MESSAGES, y LC_CTYPE. -- Linux User #98419 -o)| Do infants have as much fun in http://counter.li.org /\| infancy as adults do in adultery? ICQ 94335020 _\_v | Si quieres ayudarme, ponme de| referencia en www.puntosclub.com | _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: locales y demás fauna...
Diego Martínez Castañeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: hola a todos... acabo de instalar desde cero una versión inestable (woody) y todo funciona estupendamente, salvo el tema de mi amada eñe :). He probado a compilar los locales con locale-gen, a crear un nuevo directorio de local, pero no sé que hacer o donde ponerlo para que el sistema lo reconozca. He buscado en linuxdoc, en los threads de la lista (recuerdo que se trató el tema, pero no recuerdo cómo ni cuando y no lo encuentro :( ), y le he mandado un par de correos al gurú de turno... Así pues, me rindo. ¿Alguna idea? saludos diego Hola Diego. A mí, que instalé el lunes pasado, la eñe me funcionó cuando siguiendo las instrucciones de un artículo de la revista DLinux (número 1) descomenté la última línea del archivo /etc/inputrc. Estoy convencido de que te funcionará bien. Suerte. Saludos. Jose Luis. Debian Progeny 1.0 Newton. Usuario Linux registrado #213309. Una vez más cabalgaré con mis caballeros, para defender lo que fue.. y el sueño de lo que pudo ser. _ El correo GRATUITO en tu idioma y con múltiples beneficios. Obtén tu CorreoWeb del Foco ahora en http://elfoco.correoweb.com
Re: Fuentes de las X
Hola Agustín: Quizás no tengas instalado el xfs, mira a ver si en el arranque te pone algo como: Starting X fonst server: xfs A lo mejor te llega con instalar xfs mediante apt-get install y hacer un /etc/init.d/xfs restart Si con eso no basta, seguramente quieras instalar las TrueType fonts, en la espiral hay una receta que explica como hacerlo, no obstante como la tengo por aquí te la incluyo a continuación: Un saludo, Quique Esta receta es de Santiago Romero, que por falta de tiempo para ponerla me lo envió a mí. Fuentes TrueType en Debian con X 3.3.x en 30 segundos: Santiago Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- La diferencia del netscape con estas fuentes es genial, así que me comentaron que mandara un post aqui para decirlo. Seré breve: 1.- Instalamos los paquetes xfs y xfstt mediante apt-get install (supongo que esto valdrá igual para las demas distribuciones, solo que instalandolos a mano). 2.- Reniciamos el xfs : /etc/init.d/xfs restart 3.- Copiamos fuentes truetype (.ttf) a /usr/share/fonts/truetype cp /dos/c/Windows/fonts/*.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype cq /dos/c/Windows/fonts/*.TTF /usr/share/fonts/truetype (también podemos hacer enlaces simbólicos a las fuentes de Windows, borrando el directorio fonts y haciendo enlace a windows/fonts) 4.- Reiniciamos xfstt para que encuentre las nuevas fuentes: /etc/init.d/xfstt restart Si no las encuentra le añadimos -force-reload . 5.- Añadimos estas 2 lineas al /etc/X11/XF86Config: FontPath unix/:7101 FontPath unix/:7100 (Las ponemos justo encima de los demás FontPath, para que acuda primero a estos 2). [ NOTA: si además queremos que otros equipos de la red puedan usarnos como servidor de fuentes, podemos editar los ficheros de configuración de esos equipos y añadir: FontPath inet/maquinaservidora:7101 FontPath inet/maquinaservidora:7100 Si la máquina no está disponible no perderemos el acceso a XWindow, sino que simplemente no tendremos acceso a las fuentes truetype, y sí al resto de FontPaths de nuestro cfg. ] 6.- Pasamos a otra consola y abrimos una nueva sesion de X: startx -- :1 7. - En esta sesion abrimos netscape y en Edit-preferences-Fonts cambiamos las fuentes a Arial TTF y Courier New TTF . 8.- Cargamos www.barrapunto.org y observamos la gran diferencia :) 9.- Si ha funcionado bien podemos salir de las X y reiniciar XWindow en la sesion original, y a disfrutar!!! 10.- Les cambiamos las fuentes a todas las demas aplicaciones que lo soporten (icewm, kde, staroffice, etc) en sus opciones. Existen una serie de aplicaciones que convierten las fuentes ttf a otros formatos para que las puedan usar las aplicaciones... para más información el TrueType Howto que se puede encontrar en la Red. Espero que os sirva de algo. La diferencia visual realmente ayuda a los ojos, puedo certificarlo :) NOTA: Tan solo añadir que para los poseedores de las XFree 4.X no es necesario recurrir al xfstt, ya que las propias X incorporan soporte para fuentes truetype a través del módulo freetype que hay que cargar en la seccion Module del XF86Config-4 con la línea: Load freetype # Freetype fonts (gracias a Vicente Gimeno por este apunte). Agustin Garcia wrote: Tengo instalada woody, con todas las xfonts pero el tipo de letra se ve como con poca calidad, tanto en gnome como en kde2 y peor que con mi anterior Potato. De ahí que supondo que son la xfonts. Tengo una ATI Rage Fury y por fin conseguí que funcionaran las XFree 4.0, aunque creo que no al 100 %. A alguien le ha pasado algo igual?
Re: latex
Pablo Serrano wrote: ... Otra pregunta que se me ocurrio (perdonen si es una estupidez, soy novato) es si se puede de algun modo usar las fuentes TTF de Win en linux. ... En el paquete doc-linux-text vienen los HOWTO. Entre los mini-HOWTO hay uno llamado TT-Debian: /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/mini/TT-Debian.txt.gz (no sé si está en castellano). Allí está bastante bien explicado lo que tienes que hacer para usar las ttf en Debian. Yo lo hice y no quedé muy conforme, el asunto de las fuentes en X-windows es bastante complicado. Puedes instalar todas las que quieras y *en teoría* las puedes usar. En la práctica te encuentras que, por ejemplo el xfig tiene un número de fuentes fijo predeterminado. En el Staroffice tienes que luchar un buen rato y puede que consigas que te aparezcan en el starcalc pero no en el starwriter, o viceversa. Y una cosa es que las veas en la pantalla y otra muy distinta es que las puedas imprimir. Editando un archivo postscript generado por el xfig (sólo cambiando el nombre de la fuente) llegué a conseguir que imprima en un printer EPSON Stylus color 600, pero no en una HP4000 (el epson no es postscript así que la conversión la hace el ghostscript, que anda bien con las ttf, mientras que la HP es postscript, así que el archivo le llega tal cual y el printer no entiende qué font es el que le mandan). Una aplicación que anda muy bien con estas TTFs es el GIMP. Claro: lo primero que hace con la fuente es convertirla a bitmap y listo! Y para usarlas en LaTeX... no tuve la paciencia necesaria. ... pero parece que en teoría se puede :) -- Saludos, O__ Enzo.,/ ()_\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-S. C. de Bariloche, Argentina | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-2944-445208, 54-2944-445100 Fax: 54-2944-445299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.gov.ar/darie/darie.htm
Re: Preguntas varias:
--| David Martinez Zamora, escribió: |-- Hola a todos de nuevo, (olvidé estas preguntas en el otro mail, en fin ..) ¿Alguien conoce un navegador linux, en formato texto que permita, leer el webmail, y configurarle un proxy? Oí hablar de Lynx, pero se me hace muy enrevesado. 1 ¿Existe alguna herramienta capaz de descargarse los correos via http? Esto lo planteo, porque yo accedo a la red de mi empresa desde casa con mi linux puedo salir a internet si me configuro el proxy de la empresa, pero sólo me deja salir por http. ¿Sugerencias? 2 -- Hola, 1-lynx te permite navegar en solo texto, el proxy se setea en /etc/lynx.cfg 2-Si te referis a un webmail tipo yahoo, con el fetchmail lo podes bajar, y luego lo podes leer con mutt; solo nesesitas saber el servidor pop., por ej en yahoo es pop.mail.yahoo.com, en tu caso deve ser algo pareceido supongo. Saludos Fabian ++ | Ad augusta per angusta | ++
Re: Telia ADSL
Hej Kaddik och tack för ditt svar. Jag har testad det här men när jag försöker köra skriptet får jag *Permission denied* både som user och som root. Som user har jag dock både dialout och dip rättigheter. MVH, Helgi Örn On Sunday 09 September 2001 00:43, Kaddik wrote: Det script jag använder och som dök upp här på lista för länge sedan... (våras..?) Det är bara att koppla upp adslmodemet med en crossover kabel, tala om att du använder dhcp på det aktuella interfacet och köra. /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth1 inet dhcp /etc/init.d/adsl_login: (eller vad du vill kalla det..) #!/bin/sh # # /etc/init.d/adsl_login: start ADSL link. # This script uses netcat HOST=10.0.0.6 USERNAME=u PASSWORD= /usr/sbin/ipmasq case $1 in # start) echo -n Starting up ADSL link: Login CMD_INIT=GET /sd/init HTTP/1.0 CMD_LOGIN=GET /sd/login?username=$USERNAMEpassword=$PASSWORDsubmitForm=Logga in NC=/usr/bin/nc $HOST 80 echo $CMD_INIT | $NC /dev/null echo $CMD_LOGIN | $NC /dev/null echo ..done ;; # *) echo Usage: /etc/init.d/adsl_login {start|stop} exit 1 ;; # esac # end of script -- First Law of Procrastination: Procrastination shortens the job and places the responsibility for its termination on someone else (i.e., the authority who imposed the deadline).
Re: Upgrade do potato original para pt_BR... étranqüilo?
On S_, 2001-09-08 at 23:44, Hélio Nunes wrote: Olás, Depois de alguns anos sem usar o debian (o útlimo foi a versão 1.3 -- kernel 2.0.29:), resolvi voltar a esta brilhante distribuição. Como não tinha conhecimento do estado de desenvolvimento do debian-br, acabei instalando a versão em inglês do potato... Seja bem vindo de volta! Queria saber se é tranqüilo o upgrade para o debian-br. É só mudar o sources.list? Não entendo quando você diz que instalou a versão em inglês, os sistemas originados do Unix em geral não tem uma versão para cada língua. Atraves de variaveis de sistemas você pode definir que língua cada usuário vai usar (ver algumas mensagens que estão na lista atualmente para saber como fazer isso). O repositorio que você deve estar se referindo tem a mais apenas as descrições dos pacotes que já foram traduzidos, como o seu já está instalado não vai fazer muita diferença você usar este repositório, a não ser nas futuras instalações de softwares que ainda não estão na sua distribuição. Não precisa se preocupar, você pode atualizar seu source.list e rodar um update que não terás problema algum. Meu medo é pq está tudo funcionando muito bem. :) []'s -- ::: .''`. ::: ::: : :' : ::: Rodrigo Araujo (rma) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: `. `'` ::: UIN: 101720839 ::: `-:::
Re: Upgrade do potato original para pt_BR... étranqüilo?
Existe um script que faz o que pode: configura acentos, man pages e outras coisas mais... verifique em http://www.poli.org/jeffaz/ Fucionou perfeitamente no meu potato. On S_, 2001-09-08 at 23:44, Hélio Nunes wrote: Olás, Depois de alguns anos sem usar o debian (o útlimo foi a versão 1.3 -- kernel 2.0.29:), resolvi voltar a esta brilhante distribuição. Como não tinha conhecimento do estado de desenvolvimento do debian-br, acabei instalando a versão em inglês do potato... Queria saber se é tranqüilo o upgrade para o debian-br. É só mudar o sources.list? Meu medo é pq está tudo funcionando muito bem. :)
Re: Como comprar o Debian em português?
Executei o script e a acentuação funcionou corretamente mas vários comandos estão mostrando a seguinte mensagem: $ man bash (null): can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct Reformatting bash(1), please wait...te, mas Abraços, Jackson Fabiano Manoel de Andrade wrote: EmSat, 8 Sep 2001 12:56:20 -0300 Pedro Zorzenon Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: edite o /etc/profile e coloque uma linha assim: export LC_ALL=pt_BR de um logout e no proximo login as variaveis devem estar em pt_BR OBS: o /etc/profile é para todos os usuarios do sistema. se quiser alterar somente para voce, o arquivo é /home/username/.bashrc Existe um script no site www.poli.org para acentuação e também para colocar tudo em português, bem simples e fácil. O nome dele é acentos-2.6-Debian22.tgz . Tem até uma forma de usar o til no soffice51 na debian sem ter que recompilar o Xfree. Abraço . Fabiano.
Mozilla
Oi pessoal, Estou utilizando o wood, mas instalei o mozilla 0.9.3 do unstable. Esta versão não possui suporte a ssl. Isto ocorre apenas com esta versão ou é o mozilla não possui suporte a ssl para linux? Abraços, Jackson
Re: Compilando o Kernel...
ReMy Le BeAu wrote: E aí, beleza?! pra todo mundo... Bom, voltando ao assunto de compilar um novo kernel... Nos documentos ele diz q vc não pode ter drivers q vc não vai usar e etc... isso é óbvio.. Mas a minha dúvida é: O q isso significa? Para eu antes de compilar o Kernel deletar todos os .h e os próprios drivers (.c) do diretório do Novo Kernel, ou ele se refere aos módulos q j´[a estão sendo carregados normalmente? Boas ! Se apagares os .h e .c ficarás sem kernel. Se quiseres limpar a directoria das sources, apenas terás de fazer 'make mrproper'. Eu também acho que este comando já é executado pelo make-kpkg ... -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.nortenet.pt/~guilherme
Re: Mozilla
On Qua, 2001-08-29 at 23:07, Jackson wrote: Oi pessoal, Estou utilizando o wood, mas instalei o mozilla 0.9.3 do unstable. Esta versão não possui suporte a ssl. Isto ocorre apenas com esta versão ou é o mozilla não possui suporte a ssl para linux? O suporte a ssl está em outro pacote, o mozilla-psm. Abraços, Jackson []'s -- ::: .''`. ::: ::: : :' : ::: Rodrigo Araujo (rma) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: `. `'` ::: UIN: 101720839 ::: `-:::
Re: Como comprar o Debian em português?
EmSun, 09 Sep 2001 10:34:53 -0300 Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Executei o script e a acentuação funcionou corretamente mas vários comandos estão mostrando a seguinte mensagem: $ man bash (null): can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct Reformatting bash(1), please wait...te, mas Não entendo direito, mas o problema esta no locale. Tive este problema alguns tempos atrás quando editei os arquivos /etc/profile e /etc/environment. Porém isso não tem acontecido comigo. Caso queira voltar atrás você pode desinstalar o acentos, dê uma olhada na documentação que vem junto. Abraço. Fabiano Abraços, Jackson Fabiano Manoel de Andrade wrote: EmSat, 8 Sep 2001 12:56:20 -0300 Pedro Zorzenon Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: edite o /etc/profile e coloque uma linha assim: export LC_ALL=pt_BR de um logout e no proximo login as variaveis devem estar em pt_BR OBS: o /etc/profile é para todos os usuarios do sistema. se quiser alterar somente para voce, o arquivo é /home/username/.bashrc Existe um script no site www.poli.org para acentuação e também para colocar tudo em português, bem simples e fácil. O nome dele é acentos-2.6-Debian22.tgz . Tem até uma forma de usar o til no soffice51 na debian sem ter que recompilar o Xfree. Abraço . Fabiano. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 Linux lottar 2.2.19 Pentium 200 MMX 40Mb Fabiano Manoel de Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peguei os boot floppies e agora...
Olá Pessoal. Tá peguei os boot floppies para o woody. Mas estou com uma dúvida. No potato existe um arquivo base... com a um sistema básico de instalação. Bem, não notei a existência de tal arquivo para o woody. Já li o guia de instalação do woody e não encontrei a resposta. Depois de instalar os drivers como continuo? Quer dizer, sei que preciso baixar os pacotes do woody via rede, mas meu modem é PnP então eu precisaria do isapnp instalado para baixar os pacotes. No básico do potato vem o isapnp. Talvez alguns usuários digam: se está fazendo esta pergunta não mude para o woody. Mas quero aprender e acho que esta lista é o lugar correto. É claro se existir alguma documentação com relação a isso é só dizer que vou atrás. Muito obrigado pela atencção. Fabiano. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 Linux lottar 2.2.19 Pentium 200 MMX 40Mb Fabiano Manoel de Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MarcioRAGarcia@aol.com: Re: email em html (Era Re: Familiarizando-se com o Debian)]
Olá- Estou dando um forward da msg do Sr. Márcio Garcia, que me foi enviada em private. Acho que é relevante para lista por três motivos: 1) Esclarecer definitivamente se pode ou não mandar e-mail em HTML para a d-u-p, uma vez que ele se queixa de não ter visto regra alguma, __embora__ os admins tenham solicitado __repetidas__ vezes que isso não fosse feito. 2) Esclarecer publicamente esta questão de uma vez por todas, e quem sabe incluir na mensagem de aceitação da lista que o e-mail em HTML é proscrito nesta lista, para que membros da lista não tenham que ser submetidos a tratamento agressivo por parte de pessoas desinformadas. Se isto não foi suficientemente esclarecido, acho que é nossa culpa. 3) E deixar claro se atitudes como a do Sr. Márcio garcia são bem-vindas ou não, quando ele diz que não é problema dele se os e-mails em HTML são aceitos na lista ou não, uma vez que ele trabalha na AOL. Gostaria que os admins clareassem o assunto, porque o assunto já descambou para um nível não-técnico. Eu mesmo esclareci como ele poderia postar mensagens em texto de qualquer terminal telnet, numa tentativa de auxiliar o Sr. Márcio. Como sabemos, eles são incluídos numa instalação default de máquias Windows. Acho difícl não haver essa possibilidade técnica numa máquina da AOL. E se não existe tal possibilidade, o que a debian-user-portuguese tem a ver com isso? Obrigado, Henry - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-From_: root Sun Sep 9 10:48:38 2001 Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 09:47:15 EDT Subject: Re: email em html (Era Re: Familiarizando-se com o Debian) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows BR sub 10508 1) Minha empresa é limitada sim, nao temos acesso a nada fora o navegador da AOL e os programas de trabalho, vc nunca trabalhei em empresas grandes nao ? Obs: Tapado é o vc - mané - e para seu governo trabalho com Linux a pelo menos 4 anos 2) Incomodo por que me incomodaram e não existe nenhum regulamento q diga q eu nao posso mandar email para a lista, tem ? Se tiver me mande o link !! Estamos em 2001, não me diga !!! ja que estamos na era da tecnologia o HTML é a q mais se desenvolve, nao sei se sabe mais as paginas (sites) são desenvolvidas em HTML !! :-) Não é problema meu , é problema da lista, para mim tanto faz EMAIL em HTML ou em texto abro os 2 do mesmo jeito... 3) Por mim vc pode dar forward para quem vc quiser .. eu mesmo mandei a mensagem para a lista toda, q nao é falta de educação e sim uma forma de expressão []´s Marcio Obs: Não vou mais redigir mensagens a vc, alias até sai dessa lista Um abraço ! - End forwarded message -
cd-writer
alguém sabe a diferença entre os formatos .raw e .iso ??? até hj só utilizei a imagem de cd com extensão .iso. a .raw é diferente ou é apenas uma referência? Desde já agradeço -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- |* Lucianno Albuquerque Ramalho |* [EMAIL PROTECTED] |* [EMAIL PROTECTED] |* Linux User #197232 - ICQ #45967059 |* Live Free or Die !!! - Powered by Debian GNU/Linux pgpnR0KBMhreL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [MarcioRAGarcia@aol.com: Re: email em html (Era Re: Familiarizando-se com o Debian)]
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 06:58:36PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Estou dando um forward da msg do Sr. Márcio Garcia, que me foi enviada em private. Com a permissão dele? Acho que é relevante para lista por três motivos: 1) Esclarecer definitivamente se pode ou não mandar e-mail em HTML para a d-u-p, uma vez que ele se queixa de não ter visto regra alguma, __embora__ os admins tenham solicitado __repetidas__ vezes que isso não fosse feito. Que admins? Eu não vi nenhuma mensagem de Martin Schulze, Alexander Koch e/ou Anand Kumria reclamando dos e-mails em HTML. Não há regra explícita sobre o uso de HTML em mensagens, é apenas uma má conduta que pedimos encarecidamente que se evite por parte dos que postam. 2) Esclarecer publicamente esta questão de uma vez por todas, e quem sabe incluir na mensagem de aceitação da lista que o e-mail em HTML é proscrito nesta lista, para que membros da lista não tenham que ser submetidos a tratamento agressivo por parte de pessoas desinformadas. Tal mudança só ocorreria se ocorresse em todas as listas. Se isto não foi suficientemente esclarecido, acho que é nossa culpa. 3) E deixar claro se atitudes como a do Sr. Márcio garcia são bem-vindas ou não, quando ele diz que não é problema dele se os e-mails em HTML são aceitos na lista ou não, uma vez que ele trabalha na AOL. Não é problema dele mesmo, eu acho. Ele mandou, a lista recebeu, e fica por isso mesmo. Gostaria que os admins clareassem o assunto, porque o assunto já descambou para um nível não-técnico. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eu mesmo esclareci como ele poderia postar mensagens em texto de qualquer terminal telnet, numa tentativa de auxiliar o Sr. Márcio. Como sabemos, eles são incluídos numa instalação default de máquias Windows. Acho difícl não haver essa possibilidade técnica numa máquina da AOL. E se não existe tal possibilidade, o que a debian-user-portuguese tem a ver com isso? Participar de discussões por e-mail postando diretamente via telnet é inviável. P.S. - numa nota em paralelo, ajude a melhorar a legibilidade de suas mensagens quebrando-as em linhas com até 72 caracteres, se possível; você está sendo tão insensato quanto ele ao escrever assim. -- _ _ _| _ _ | _ . _ | _ http://laviola.org Debian-BR Project (_(_|| |(_)_) |(_|\/|(_)|(_| uin#: 981913 (icq) debian-br.sf.net Linux: the choice of a GNU generation - Registered Linux User #103594
Re: cd-writer
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 08:29:02PM -0300, Lucianno A. Ramalho wrote: alguém sabe a diferença entre os formatos .raw e .iso ??? até hj só utilizei a imagem de cd com extensão .iso. a .raw é diferente ou é apenas uma referência? Depende do que a pessoa fez, na verdade. Ela pode ter criado um arquivo com extensão .raw para denotar que o arquivo é uma imagem perfeita do CD, ou seja, deve ser gravado com um programa como o cdrdao. Rode o comando 'file' com o nome do arquivo como argumento para tentar descobrir qual o tipo dele. -- _ _ _| _ _ | _ . _ | _ http://laviola.org Debian-BR Project (_(_|| |(_)_) |(_|\/|(_)|(_| uin#: 981913 (icq) debian-br.sf.net Linux: the choice of a GNU generation - Registered Linux User #103594
Re: [MarcioRAGarcia@aol.com: Re: email em html (Era Re: Familiarizando-se com o Debian)]
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 09:23:41PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 06:58:36PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Estou dando um forward da msg do Sr. Márcio Garcia, que me foi enviada em private. Com a permissão dele? Sim, era só ler a parte que dizia pouco me importo se você der um forward para a lista ou coisa que o valha. Que admins? Eu não vi nenhuma mensagem de Martin Schulze, Alexander Koch e/ou Anand Kumria reclamando dos e-mails em HTML. Não há regra explícita sobre o uso de HTML em mensagens, é apenas uma má conduta que pedimos encarecidamente que se evite por parte dos que postam. OK, então não é vetado. O que se faz com má-conduta? Eu pensei que os developers brasileiros fossem os admins da lista, ou que tinham alguma espécie de privilégio. Estava errado, pelo jeito. Participar de discussões por e-mail postando diretamente via telnet é inviável. Mas se ele colocasse a linha de assunto tal e qual o thread, ela não entraria no local certo? Não sei porque ele não poderia copiar e colar... De qualquer modo, esse assunto não me interessa mais a ninguém, eu acho. Pelo menos, não me interessa mais. [ ]s Henry
Leiam esta última mensagem sobre mail HTML !
Caros colegas, mais chato que receber mensagens em HTML, é sem dúvida, receber mensagens de gente discutindo se isso é permitido ou não. Gostaria de deixar claro, que, existem normas de conduta para utilização das listas de discussão Debian no Debian-faq, que está disponível em inglês, e estará disponível em português em breve, pois estou acabando de traduzí-lo. Espero que esta seja a última mensagem sobre o assunto, que está cada vez mais desvirtuando o propósito da lista. Felicidade a todos! João Alberto Ferreira.
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 01:55:41PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over make bzImage and Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer kernel-package :) -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpkhFv1Kiqbo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT - blocking mail from specific email addresses
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 07:39:53AM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote: hi i help to run a potato server for a group of elderly/disabled people. we use exim 3.12 as the MTA. some of our members have been getting offensive email from a certain person and i would like to block this. the problem is that i cannot block mail from the domain as it is a fairly public one. In addition to what others have mentioned, I hope you've sent a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to inform them of this user's behavior. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpllH5SKt0My.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: enlightenment disappearing icons
Thanks Hall!! Actually, on my system it didn't make any difference what I did in the ...e_session-XX.snapshots.0 file. I did exit E and X to edit the file, but no change to my desktop. I finally ended up backing up my ...e_session-XX file before deleting it (just in case). After starting X and E without that file - everything works!! :) Thanks for your help. Jeff Original Message On 9/8/01, 9:57:43 PM, Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: enlightenment disappearing icons: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010908 23:48]: I am using potato distribution with gnome desktop manager and the enlightenment windows manager. All has been running very well. Then I screwed something up, can't figure out what. When I minimize a window the icon is suppose to appear on the desktop. It did before, but now it doesn't. I have to go to the desktop manager to maximize a minimized window. I have searched through configuration screens and help files and haven't been successful. Anyone have a clue? You've likely lost or closed your 'iconbox'. I've done it myself and only figured out one way to 'fix' the problem. What I do is this: Exit E and X cd ~/.enlightenment edit the file ...e_session-XX.snapshots.0 Look for something like this: NEW: _IB_3.Enlightenment_IconBox (I think the first part of that is somewhat random, the _IB_3 part, that is) Delete that line and all lines up to the next 'NEW' entry. Repeat for anymore 'iconbox' entries you find. Restart X and E and use E's root menus to create a new iconbox. Hall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Nathan E Norman wrote: Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer kernel-package :) You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly the same kernel. Right now, I have two Debian boxes, but one is a P3 running Sid (kernel 2.4.9) and the other is an original Pentium (complete with the FP divide bug) running Potato (2.2.19). Sure, if you have a number of machines that will be well-served running the same kernel, and you handle variations in hardware with loadable modules, then a packaged kernel would be useful. With only a few machines, I'd rather just build a custom kernel for each one, tuned for exactly that machine's hardware, with loadable module support disabled. This way, there are only two files to install for a kernel (vmlinuz and System.map), so a kernel package has no significant advantage over doing it all by hand. Craig
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Craig Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Nelson wrote: Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. That's exactly why not. I'd rather have a vanilla Linus kernel source tree to which I can apply patches without worrying about whether they'll conflict with whatever patches the Debian maintainers decided to apply. Yeah, those mysterious Debian developers do strange things to the source. Whatever could it be? $ zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-source-2.4.9/changelog.Debian.gz kernel-source-2.4.9 (2.4.9-1) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream release (closes: #63393). * Fixed highmem CramFS bug (closes: #108893). * Added missing include in fs/ntfs/unistr.c. * Reverted startup==1 patch from drivers/net/tulip/21142.c. * Fixed obsolete use of min: drivers/net/rrunner.c. * Exported snprintf/vsnprintf (ac patches). -- Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 18 Aug 2001 21:23:07 +1000 Hmm, seems to be just a couple fixes to me. I wouldn't complain... The package installs the bzip2'ed source in /usr/src. Just tar -jxf it, configure with 'make menuconfig' or whatever, and then build a custom kernel-image package with 'make-kpkg kernel_image'. I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over make bzImage and manually installing the kernel image. 1. You won't forget to run /sbin/lilo 2. No need to worry about changing /vmlinuz link 3. ... For a bunch more: zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/Rationale.gz -- Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: Nathan E Norman wrote: Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer kernel-package :) You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly the same kernel. Right now, I have two Debian boxes, but one is a P3 running Sid (kernel 2.4.9) and the other is an original Pentium (complete with the FP divide bug) running Potato (2.2.19). Uh, this doesn't make sense. There's no limitation which says you can't build kernels on one machine which are customised for another (entirely different) machine. Sure, if you have a number of machines that will be well-served running the same kernel, and you handle variations in hardware with loadable modules, then a packaged kernel would be useful. With only a few machines, I'd rather just build a custom kernel for each one, tuned for exactly that machine's hardware, with loadable module support disabled. Sounds familiar. Why you think this is not possible with kernel-package is beyond me. This way, there are only two files to install for a kernel (vmlinuz and System.map), so a kernel package has no significant advantage over doing it all by hand. I maintain (more or less) four boxes ... a celeron (my home machine), an athlon (my work desktop), a 486 (my firewall), and a p90 (a server with no portfolio). I compile all the kernels on the athlon because, well, it's just too painful to sit around waiting for the other machines to finish the job. The p90 and especially the 486 are practically useless while compiling a kernel. Since the athlon has the biggest (and fastest) disks, I need kernel-source trees on one machine rather than spread all over the place (let's see, I downloaded the ipsec patch where? Did I patch this tree, or was that the other box?) This is a significant advantage. Cheers, -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgp09i03dQ9Ke.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Sunday 09 September 2001 01:07 am, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: Nathan E Norman wrote: snip I maintain (more or less) four boxes ... a celeron (my home machine), an athlon (my work desktop), a 486 (my firewall), and a p90 (a server with no portfolio). I compile all the kernels on the athlon because, well, it's just too painful to sit around waiting for the other machines to finish the job. The p90 and especially the 486 are practically useless while compiling a kernel. Since the athlon has the biggest (and fastest) disks, I need kernel-source trees on one machine rather than spread all over the place (let's see, I downloaded the ipsec patch where? Did I patch this tree, or was that the other box?) This is a significant advantage. I have a 486 firewall myself. My connectivity on other machines more or less stops when I do things like run dpkg or the gShield firewall script (iptables) loads on it. Is this normal, or is it just my particular 486 33? (Oh, and I use kernel-package on the faster machine to compile kernels for the 486 -- Just so this is somewhat on topic.) Thanks. Cheers,
Re: Good mail management techniques?
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 03:32:02PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: Hi, I'm just wondering how people manage their email... The main problem I have is that each mailbox/folder/whatever you want to call it, grows without bounds. I wouldn't mind something to automatically shoved mail in a folder for each month or something like that, but I don't think that IMAP/Pine etc support multilevel folders, or do they? Anyway, I'm just interested in seeing how other people do it, and what is considered best practise Andrew First the blue-sky dreams, then the reality: DREAMS I think the real solution is to put mail in a real database; I've read some discussion that Sylpheed (maybe) and one other program (whose name I've forgotten) can do this. I've long thought that the folder metaphor for mail is inadequate; I would prefer a more flexible scheme for classifying mail. It would have two properties: first, each piece of mail could belong to several classifications, so that, for example, mail concerning computers and politics could be classified under both. Mail on a mailing list that referred specifically to my questions or interests could be on the list and under personal. And so on. Second, I'd like to see hieararchical classifications, e.g., computers includes debian includes debian-user. Then if I did a search for topic x it would automatically include all subtopics. We can do hierarchies with folders now, but we can't do the folder and all subfolders logic. REALITY In the meantime, I use exim to filter my mail into boxes and read it with mutt. When the individual boxes get so big that performance is painful, I run the following python script to hack the big ones up and put them in the archive subdirectory. I make no claim this is best practice! To use this, I switch to the directory with my mailboxes, and (assuming the script is executable) do ./chopy.py box1 box2 boxN This will ensure that each box is no more than sizeLeft (see below) bytes. The excess stuff gets turned into things like box1.date.bz2, where date is an indication of the date of the last message in the archive. Unless your box is perfectly sorted, you shouldn't take the date too literally. Then I move the bz2 files into an archive. #! /usr/bin/python # Released under GPL. (c) 2001 Ross Boylan import fcntl,os,re,stat,sys import pdb sizeLeft = 15*1024*1024 # Size to leave pattern = re.compile(r^From \S+ (?Pweekday\w\w\w) (?Pmonth\w\w\w)\ r (?Pday[0-9]{1,2}) \d\d:\d\d:\d\d (?Pyear\d{2,4})$) patt2 = re.compile(r^Received: from) blockSize = 1024*1024 # size to transfer def handleFile(file): Process a single file if os.stat(file)[stat.ST_SIZE] sizeLeft : print %s is not long enough to chop%file return fh = open(file, r+) fh.seek(-sizeLeft, 2) line = fh.readline() # read to end of partial line while 1: pos = fh.tell() line = fh.readline() if not line: break # hit EOF if line[:5] == From : #pdb.set_trace() pass m = pattern.match(line) if m: line = fh.readline() if patt2.match(line): dateString = m.group('year')+-+m.group('month')+\ -+m.group('day') chopFile(fh, file, pos, .+dateString) return else: print Odd. Failed to match on 2nd line. Continuing search. # note we skip over the 2nd line print Could not find message start in last %d characters of %s%( sizeLeft, file) fh.close() def chopFile(fh, name, pos, decoration): Chops file name, open with fh, at pos. Add decoration to name of new first part # fh should be open for mod on entry. It will be closed # by this function status = fcntl.flock(fh.fileno(), fcntl.LOCK_EX) if status : print Couldn't lock , file fh.close() return try: _chopFile(fh, name, pos, decoration) finally: # off with their locks fh = open(file,r) status = fcntl.flock(fh.fileno(), fcntl.LOCK_UN) if status: print Failed to remove lock for %s%file fh.close() def _chopFile(fh, name, pos, decoration): Chops without worrying about locking # copy tail fhshort = open(file+.short, w) fh.seek(pos) block = fh.read(blockSize) while block: fhshort.write(block) block = fh.read(blockSize) fhshort.close() # and create long start fh.truncate(pos) fh.close() # assign final names archiveName = file+decoration os.rename(file, archiveName) os.rename(file+.short, file) os.system(bzip2 +archiveName) print Chopped start of %s to %s%(file, archiveName+.bz2) # executable part for file in sys.argv[1:]: handleFile(file)
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Nathan E Norman wrote: On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: Nathan E Norman wrote: Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer kernel-package :) You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly the same kernel. Right now, I have two Debian boxes, but one is a P3 running Sid (kernel 2.4.9) and the other is an original Pentium (complete with the FP divide bug) running Potato (2.2.19). Uh, this doesn't make sense. There's no limitation which says you can't build kernels on one machine which are customised for another (entirely different) machine. True, but as my first sentence above makes clear, I was assuming that you meant to build one kernel and install it on a number of machines. The rest of your latest message clarifies that you actually meant that you want to build all your kernels on one system and then distribute the resulting packages out to the other machines. To which I say, sure, but kernel-package still doesn't seem all that advantageous. All you have to do is copy two files (vmlinuz, System.map) across the network and replace the /vmlinuz symlink, so how much work do you really save by copying and installing a kernel package instead? The p90 and especially the 486 are practically useless while compiling a kernel. I buy that for the 486, but my P90 builds its own kernels. It's definitely a lot slower than the P3-700, but since the P90 exists, at this point, solely for DMZ proxy duties, I don't really care how long it takes. Since the athlon has the biggest (and fastest) disks, I need kernel-source trees on one machine rather than spread all over the place (let's see, I downloaded the ipsec patch where? Did I patch this tree, or was that the other box?) This is a significant advantage. Yes, but it's not relevant to whether you use kernel-package or not, is it? Craig
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Brian Nelson wrote: Yeah, those mysterious Debian developers do strange things to the source. Whatever could it be? Now you're just being snide, which doesn't exactly contribute to the civility factor of the discussion. Fortunately, I have better sense than to respond in kind. The point is, I have other patches from other developers (such as the ext3 filesystem) that were generated against Linus's kernel source. There's no guarantee that the patches will work against kernel sources that have been modified. (Probably they would, most of the time.) Hmm, seems to be just a couple fixes to me. I wouldn't complain... And how well have those fixes been tested? And if they're so great, why didn't Linus accept them? The time lag between Linus's release of a new kernel and the Debian maintainer's release of the same (plus patches) source is usually only a few days. Not much time for testing. For a bunch more: zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/Rationale.gz Thanks, I'll look at that. Craig
Re: nfs file execute permission
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 06:36:50PM -0500, Ron Reinhart uttered: I just got NFS running to build a kernel on a small hd laptop to apply a fix for the trackball (DEC HiNote CS450) using the NFS-HOWTO. I can access files for read and write as root on the client fine. (rw,no_root_squash set in exports) but cannot run an executable on the nfs mounted filesystem. To get around this, I tried a combination of local directories and symbolic links but make zImage broke due to some executables generated on the mounted directory near the end of the build. Any help would be appreciated while I continue researching the problem. NFS mounts are noexec by default. Mount the filesystem with '-o exec' -- Steve Portable, adj.: Survives system reboot. pgpSFCyR9VyjF.pgp Description: PGP signature
update-menus
Hi, Is there a way to tell update-menus to ignore a whole subtree of the menu? Perhaps by changing translate_menus? translate_menus seems to do some strange things. For example: substitute section-section Apps/Math Apps/Trash endtranslate But the text is never substituted! Update-menus[740]: Reading menuentryfile /usr/lib/menu/bc Update-menus[740]: translate: var[Apps/Math] testing trans rule match for:Apps/Math Update-menus[740]: checking Apps/Programming Apps/Math Update-menus[740]: ADDING: command=/usr/bin/bc hints=Calculators needs=text package=bc section=Apps/Math title=bc - Roger
Re: G4 Powerbook
Am 08.09.2001 15:35 Uhr schrieb Bob Koss unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm thinking of buying the Apple G4 Powerbook. Is the PPC distribution the CD set that I want to buy? Yes! And you want to have a look at: http://www.xiph.org/~jack/ibook/ Florian
Where's the latest stable Pan?
In the stable section, is an old version of Pan, 0.7.6. In the unstable section is the latest unstable release, 0.10.0.90. Why hasn't Pan 0.7.6 been replaced with a newer stable version? Where are the versions between 0.7.6 and 0.10.0.90? Where can I get a Debian package of the latest stable release of Pan, 0.10.0? Thank you.
Re: apt-get install stopped working
Am 05. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Oivvio Polite so: Found it. I'd shot myself in the foot be adding a /etc/apt/preferences when I wanted to mix sid and woody and then I didn't remove when I got tired of the mix. No need to remove it, just stick sid back below 100. ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # Magic is science unexplained. - der.hans
Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes
Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Rajesh Fowkar so: What is this initrd ? Why it is required when kernel boots without it ? It's required for the kernel-image-2.4.x packages because they're being built with initrds. Actually, it's because the module for the filesystems are in the initrds and not built in to the kernel, e.g. ext2 is no longer staticly compiled into the kernel, it's in the initrd. ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # I chose to use the kernel sources as my documentation. ;-) # -- Kevin Buettner
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Craig Dickson so: I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over make bzImage and manually installing the kernel image. I've adminned many boxen with almost the same configuration. Also, my firewall has no developer tools. kpkg actually doesn't help me much there because there's no lilo on PPC either :), but I still like it. I'm actually moving almost completely to pre-packaged kernels on x86. I don't often need something that was patched in and the packages have been working quite well for me. Sure will make adminning the boxen at work easier. ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # Knowledge is useless unless it's shared. - der.hans
Re: PCMCIA 2.4.9
Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte secher so: I have enabled every PCMCIA choice in the kernel after having started minimally, only those selections which I thought were necessary. After compile, as per the HOWTO, I built the pcmcia package. No Joy. Suggestions? Is there a problem with the 2.4.9 kernel and PCMCIA? Is PCMCIA not building or are you just not able to use it? If it's the latter look for some driver with 'serial' in the name. I forget what it is. modprobe on it and poof things work. Somewhere in the docs is a note about no longer using i82whateveritis in pcmcia.conf and instead using the serial driver thingy. That hint I got on this list a couple of weeks back. ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # Practice socially consious hedonism. Do whatever you want, # as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. - der.hans
Re: dpkg-scanpackages on an official mirror
Am 09. Sep, 2001 schwätzte Martin F Krafft so: also sprach der.hans (on Sat, 08 Sep 2001 01:38:13PM -0700): Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Martin F Krafft so: schwätzte... Blöder Tippfehler, gell? :( well, i know this. but the official mirror's pool/ tree has duplicates in it, as all of potato, woody, and sid index into it. some package version 2.0 might only be in woody while 1.3 exists in potato... then pool/m/myprogram will exist in two version and the Packages.gz file of the respective distro should include only the appropriate version/package. Hmm. What's the source for determining what's in potato, woody and sid? or is this what ./override is for? if not, what is *it's* purpose? It's for overriding stuff :). As I remember the docs, they said something about CD vendors. Allows them to make changes. Might be important for CD1 vs. CD2, etc. Might enable them to include/remove things, e.g. crypto packages. ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # kill telnet, long live ssh - der.hans
Re: how do i setup a maildir structure with postfix?
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 05:42:33PM +0200 or thereabouts, Martin F Krafft wrote: also sprach Rino Mardo (on Sat, 08 Sep 2001 11:39:54AM +0800): the question is: how do i setup a maildir structure in linux with the above configuration in mind. Maildir uses the directory ~/Maildir/ by default, so add the following line to your postfix's main.cf: home_mailbox = Maildir/ from now on, postfix will deliver to Maildir/ in Maildir format (because of the trailing slash, Maildir's flag) by default. however, since you are using procmail, you don't have to make that site-wide, because you can simply postfix your mailboxes with a slash to make them Maildirs. for instance, the following procmailrc will deliver to Maildirs. === VERBOSE=no LOGABSTRACT=yes MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox/ :0 * ^Return-Path:[EMAIL PROTECTED] $MAILDIR/debian/ === which will write all messages to debian user into the ~/Mail/debian/ Maildir (containing cur, tmp, and new), and everything else into ~/Mail/inbox/ and yes, Maildir is better by a factor of two thousand and one. a thousand thanks man. it worked. though i made a mistake initially in creating the directories first whereas i should have let the mda create it. i was able to move my default spool from /var/mail/user to ~/Mail/inbox/ using a symlink from /var/mail/user to ~/Mail/inbox/. -- the teenage mom with the baby inside getting high on information -- Californication (Red Hot Chili Peppers) pgphonD5brRcE.pgp Description: PGP signature
gmix audio level problems
I'm having some strange behaviour with my mixer settings. I'm using gmix under gnome, and have it set to restore mixer settings on startup. This doesn't work - all sound levels are still set to zero. So I added gmix -i to my startup items, and now when I log in, I get an error message saying that either there is no mixer device or I don't have permission to access the mixer device, but I am a member of the audio group. After I've logged in though, I can open gmix and it sets all my levels properly. Looking at my logs, whenever I open gmix (either manually or upon startup, I get the errors Can't locate module sound-slot-1 and Can't locate module sound-service-1-0. As I understand it, these would refer to a second sound card, which I don't have. I suspect that why gmix has trouble setting my levels by itself is that it is looking for this non-existant card. Why would it be doing this? I've never tried to set up a second card. /etc/modules.conf has no reference to more sound devices. Any suggestions? I'm running kernel 2.4.9. My sound card is an es1371, which is compiled into the kernel (not a module). I'm using gmix version 1.2.3 (debian unstable). My sound all works fine, I just have to manually open gmix every time to get my levels set properly! TIA Craig -- Craig Holyoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uq.net.au/craigh/
Re: Good mail management techniques?
Ross Boylan wrote: On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 03:32:02PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: Hi, I'm just wondering how people manage their email... The main problem I have is that each mailbox/folder/whatever you want to call it, grows without bounds. I wouldn't mind something to automatically shoved mail in a folder for each month or something like that, but I don't think that IMAP/Pine etc support multilevel folders, or do they? Anyway, I'm just interested in seeing how other people do it, and what is considered best practise Andrew First the blue-sky dreams, then the reality: DREAMS I think the real solution is to put mail in a real database; I've read some discussion that Sylpheed (maybe) and one other program (whose name I've forgotten) can do this. I've long thought that the folder metaphor for mail is inadequate; I would prefer a more flexible scheme for classifying mail. It would have two properties: first, each piece of mail could belong to several classifications, so that, for example, mail concerning computers and politics could be classified under both. Mail on a mailing list that referred specifically to my questions or interests could be on the list and under personal. And so on. Second, I'd like to see hieararchical classifications, e.g., computers includes debian includes debian-user. Then if I did a search for topic x it would automatically include all subtopics. We can do hierarchies with folders now, but we can't do the folder and all subfolders logic. ... I wonder whether anybody tried it already (in publicly accessible project). Shouldn't be too hard to create db back-end for one of the imap servers. anybody knows about such a beast? erik
Re: PCMCIA 2.4.9
* On 09-09-01 at 11:10 der.hans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: +Here quoted text begins+ Is PCMCIA not building or are you just not able to use it? If it's the latter look for some driver with 'serial' in the name. I forget what it is. modprobe on it and poof things work. [...] ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # Practice socially consious hedonism. Do whatever you want, # as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. - der.hans +and here the quote ends+ Has anyone successfully built pcmcia on kernel 2.4.9 on sid?, and if anyone has could he/she please tell me how they did it? THX in advance! B. -- [*] Boštjan Müller - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://neonatus.net/~neonatus [*] [*] PGP key - finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED], RSA id: 0x90178DBD [*] [*] Celular: +386(0)41243189, Powered by Debian GNU/LiNUX - ICQ #:7506644 [*] War determines not who is right, but who is left.
Re: Can the scsi emulation kill the hard drive?
On Saturday Sep 08 23:22 Herbert Pirke wrote: ** I had a similar problem with my debian box a few weeks ** ago. Unfortunately I forgot the exact message, but ** there were some unreadable files in /var again. This ** was just after installing the SCSI emulation for my ** ATAPI-burner. ** ** Was that just a coincidence or can the SCSI emulation ** be responsible for this? Don't know if the SCSI emulation is the reason for this. But your experience sounds if it is. Is your SCSI emulation installed correct? If you use IDE hard discs you have to disable SCSI disk support. SCSI support, SCSI CD-Rom support and SCSI generic support are the three things that have to be anabled in kernel configuration if you only have IDE drives. Timo -- Wer Käse mag, der futtert auch Füsse! :-)
Re: gmix audio level problems
On Sunday Sep 09 12:13 Craig Holyoak wrote: ** I'm having some strange behaviour with my mixer settings. I'm using gmix ** under gnome, and have it set to restore mixer settings on startup. This ** doesn't work - all sound levels are still set to zero. So I added gmix ** -i to my startup items, and now when I log in, I get an error message ** saying that either there is no mixer device or I don't have permission ** to access the mixer device, but I am a member of the audio group. After ** I've logged in though, I can open gmix and it sets all my levels ** properly. I had a very similar problem. The reason of this two problems could be the same. I also couln't start gmix and get the error message either i have no permission or there is no /dev/mixer. In my example it was Gnome that was not set right for gmix. After i anabled sound server startup and sound events in Gnome control center. I could use gmix without this error message. In your case i think the sound server of Gnome is not running in this time while you use gmix- i as startup item. You should start gmix -i after the sound server has started. Why your gmix don't remember his settings is a riddle for my. Gmix should do this if set in properties. My gmix does this. Timo -- Wer Käse mag, der futtert auch Füsse! :-)
mailq
Greetings. mailq is linked to exim, so the mailq command is just a shortcut to do a queue check. Is it a security risk to permit normal users to check the mailq, because if I try it as a non-root user, I get permission denied. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 Pretty soon, massive bloat is the industry standard and everyone is using huge, buggy programs not even their developers can love. -Eric S. Raymond, The Art of Unix Programming pgpVP89pIM2oU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: devfs
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 01:37:33AM +0800, --- wrote: On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 06:44:03PM +0200, arf wrote: Le Jeudi 6 Septembre 2001 17:33, --- a ?crit : problem: everytime i boot to 24.7. with devfs i have these msgs: can't locate module: /dev/xconsole can't locate module: /var/log/ksymoops/*.log can't create regular \ file. read-only filesystem... can't locate module: /dev/cdrom1 can someone help? TIA Can you use your cdrom and run xconsole?! Do you have the devfsd package installed? yes With the devfsd package my cdrom settings work automagically; as for /dev/xconsole, I found that I had to call xconsole -file /dev/xconsole for it to work. i dont have xconsole... its not in the deb archive either... do you think that's the problem? I didn't have to install xconsole, it is apparently in some standard package. I got the same sort of messages with SuSE 7.0 when I switched to devfs, but when I got the current version of devfsd and configured it to save permissions, everything worked, error messages here or there. how bout ksymoops? can i remove it? ksymoops is a utility to decode kernel error messages, removing it seems like a bit of a bad idea... Does it eventually create a log file in the directory? i.e. when the system has reached the default run level?! /dev/cdrom1: If mounting the dev works, either using the old or new names, respectively, I wouldn't worry about it. What does /etc/modules look like?! Are you running the latest devfsd?! Did you compile with the kernel package tools?! cu, Eamon Roque. pgpFskzdQnZg8.pgp Description: PGP signature
newbe-ish question - POSIX ?
What is POSIX and what does it entail ? Thanks (Sorry for the stupid question) SK
Re: mailq
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 07:29:50AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Greetings. mailq is linked to exim, so the mailq command is just a shortcut to do a queue check. Is it a security risk to permit normal users to check the mailq, because if I try it as a non-root user, I get permission denied. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 Pretty soon, massive bloat is the industry standard and everyone is using huge, buggy programs not even their developers can love. -Eric S. Raymond, The Art of Unix Programming No, it's not a security risk... for the reasons you mentioned... just edit permissions in usual manner... Take care, Davor pgpXgkJOF2SHN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dpkg-scanpackages on an official mirror
also sprach der.hans (on Sun, 09 Sep 2001 02:24:09AM -0700): Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Martin F Krafft so: schwätzte... Blöder Tippfehler, gell? :( no stress :) well, i know this. but the official mirror's pool/ tree has duplicates in it, as all of potato, woody, and sid index into it. some package version 2.0 might only be in woody while 1.3 exists in potato... then pool/m/myprogram will exist in two version and the Packages.gz file of the respective distro should include only the appropriate version/package. Hmm. What's the source for determining what's in potato, woody and sid? i don't know. part of the reason i asked. martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 1-800-psych hello, welcome to the psychiatric hotline. if you are paranoid-delusional, we know who you are and what you want. just stay on the line so we can trace the call. pgp8u1qQhRPef.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbe-ish question - POSIX ?
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 06:08:48PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is POSIX and what does it entail ? Thanks (Sorry for the stupid question) SK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi!!! There are no stupid questions, just supid answers... POSIX means Portable Operating System Interface for Computer Environments. This is system developed by Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (I) because many different UNIX-like systems were developed. Basically, this standard defines how Unix like systems should operate and it is a de-facto standard to which all Unix-like systems should (or rather must) adhere. Basically, this has to do with system calls. Linux also adheres to Linux Filesystem Standard (FSSTND) and that defines where specific files and directories should be placed in the Linux file structure. I hope this helps, Take care, Davor pgpsZynkf1lE9.pgp Description: PGP signature
printing on hp610cdjet....
I have problems using the djet550c filter from magicfilter... how can i make configure it so that it gets to print what is actually the actual page displayed in mutt??? the reason for this is that i cant print forms send to me by other users it gets dropped to the next line.. TIA -- Just For Fun --Linus Torvalds
how to make ksymoops log into a read-only filesystem?
ei, im running 2.4.7 with devfs enabled. i can't seem to make ksymoops log.. these were the errors uon boot time: 'can't locate module: can't log /var/log/ksymoops.*.log, read-only filesystem' is there a workaround for my problem? i read in the docs that ksymoops can't log with devfs because it mounts the root in read-only. and also how can i make xine open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 instead of /dev/cdrom?? TIA -- Just For Fun --Linus Torvalds
Re: OT - blocking mail from specific email addresses
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sam Varghese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would be grateful if any of the assembled could advise me or point me to docs to find out what syntax to use in the exim.conf to block email from specific email addresses. Look up sender_reject. Note that that works on the envelope-from address, not the address in the From: header, but usually those are the same. Mike. -- I think...I think it's in my basement. Let me go upstairs and check. -- M.C. Escher (1898-1972)
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable
On Sat, 2001-09-08 at 15:59, dman wrote: On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:05:33AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: | Yes, it's me again. | | Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! | | Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I ^ devfsd and devfs are two different things. devfsd is a user-space daemon that registers itself with a devfs-enabled kernel to provide various naming and partition adjustments when devfs events occur. Sorry, I knew that. Typo... No, the stock kernels don't have devfs enabled by default. You can either recompile your kernel and enable devfs and auto-mount it at boot time OR you can add devfs=mount to your kernel command line. Okay. | I had a read of /etc/init.d/devfsd and it quits if it can't find | /dev/.devfsd. I created that and rebooted, but then when devfsd starts | it sits on Creating symlinks and hangs. I tried moving /dev to | /olddev and creating an empty /dev with just .devfsd in, and this really | broke the boot sequence! Yes, I would expect this. If you read the devfs FAQ/Howto by Richard Gooch it explains that the magic file /dev/.devfsd is created by the kernel when devfs is used. Programs that wish to know whether or not devfs is being used should check for the presence of that file. By creating that file by hand you have just lied to devfsd to make it think devfs is currently being used, but it isn't which is why it fails. Ah. Thankyou for that. Explains a lot really! I'll see how it goes when I reboot... Thanks, Ross
Re: PCMCIA 2.4.9
Ok, seems I fell prey to the thing that irritates me most.. no information..sorry folks. Ok, PCMCIA seems to be compiling fine, as is the kernel. The install goes well, 0 hitches. However, I've noticed one thing, there are *far* fewer modules in /lib/modules/pcmcia than are in the same for the 2.2.18 kernel, which is from the original install. Symptoms: deadness. and from the syslog... Sep 7 13:36:23 dsl-64-192-26-201 kernel: Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1 .22 Sep 7 13:36:23 dsl-64-192-26-201 kernel: options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] Sep 7 13:36:23 dsl-64-192-26-201 kernel: Intel PCIC probe: not found. Sep 7 13:36:23 dsl-64-192-26-201 kernel: 3c574_cs.c v1.08 9/24/98 Donal d Becker/David Hinds, [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's about all of the symptoms there are. Peace, Vale On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 02:16:30AM -0700, der.hans wrote: Am 08. Sep, 2001 schw?zte secher so: I have enabled every PCMCIA choice in the kernel after having started minimally, only those selections which I thought were necessary. After compile, as per the HOWTO, I built the pcmcia package. No Joy. Suggestions? Is there a problem with the 2.4.9 kernel and PCMCIA? Is PCMCIA not building or are you just not able to use it? If it's the latter look for some driver with 'serial' in the name. I forget what it is. modprobe on it and poof things work. Somewhere in the docs is a note about no longer using i82whateveritis in pcmcia.conf and instead using the serial driver thingy. That hint I got on this list a couple of weeks back. ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # Practice socially consious hedonism. Do whatever you want, # as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. - der.hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hail Eris, All Hail Discordia. Jon Postel, you are missed. pgp29Zll115lF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Urgent: VALinux kernel recompile questions
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 01:13:14AM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Tomorrow I aim to recompile the kernel for a VALinux 2250 Raided server box running Debian 2.2 if at all possible. I need to recompile the kernel because of some really odd network interface problems (the two interfaces on the dual NIC always resolve against the motherboard NIC, eth0) and our file serving software - Ethershare for Mac file serving - needs a higher kernel than the current 2.2.14 we are running. I can't help you with the recompile, but I can tell you that the potato compact install floppies saw everything on an old VA 2200 series I bought. The box had the DAC960 RAID and the onboard NIC. Everything came up fine. g pgpMNReUfNeic.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: aterm and ~/.Xdefaults
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 07:19:52PM -0500, Rob VanFleet wrote: Aterm doesn't seem to want to read my ~/.Xdefaults file even though its manpage declares it will. Before anyone tells me to try ~/.Xresources, I already have, and xterm reads ~/.Xdefaults just fine. All I have in my ~/.Xdefaults is the background and foreground color: XTerm*background: black XTerm*foreground: grey I also tried 'ATerm' in place of 'XTerm', but to no avail. Aterm remains the default white background and black foregound. I'm running unstable (sid) btw. Anyone have some pointers ,ideas, etc? Run the following line on the command line in your home directory xrdb -load .Xresources If that does the trick then run it from your X startup file. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
XISP no longer works
I'm pulling from Sid (unstable), and a couple of months ago my XISP dialer stopped working. pon still works fine. I figured I had just been bitten by an unstable bug, and figured I'd ride it out till the fix. I finally check the Bug Tracking System, and I find only two bugs, neither of which seem to address my problem. XISP opens, reports Connection initiated, then a few seconds later reports that pppd got signal 11, and then just sits there. Neither the ppp-connect-errors nor the ppp.log seem to be catching anything, and I can't find any other logs that seem to be relevant. When the problem first arose, I poked around and found some changes in the /etc/ppp/peers directory, including some new files named xisp_ttyS0 - S3, which on closer inspection indicated that there had a been a change made in the way xisp works because of new noauth authentication standards or somesuch, but as near as I can tell, everything is set up the way it's supposed to be. Any clues as to how I should proceed troubleshooting? Thanks! Kent
Re: kylix compatibility
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:43:27AM -0600, G. Grimestad wrote: Is the current version of Debian compatible with Borland's Kylix? To run lylix_oe on potato, you need a patched version of libc6. I think you can find that by searching this mailing list, or running alien on the rpm provided by Borland. I got it to work without a problem, but I can;t remember exactly how. Also, you'll need to add 'export LC_ALL=en_US' (or another appropriate value) to the start of the startkylix script. g pgpmFUgTrXWeT.pgp Description: PGP signature
POSIX
Re: dpkg-scanpackages on an official [ der.hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: how do i setup a maildir structu [ Rino Mardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] gmix audio level problems [ Craig Holyoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Good mail management techniques? [ Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PCMCIA 2.4.9[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bostjan Mull ] Re: Can the scsi emulation kill the [ Timeboy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: gmix audio level problems [ Timeboy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] mailq [ Michael P. Soulier michael.souli ] Re: devfs [ Eamon Roque [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] newbe-ish question - POSIX ? [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: mailq [ Davor Balder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: dpkg-scanpackages on an official [ Martin F Krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: newbe-ish question - POSIX ? [ Davor Balder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] printing on hp610cdjet[ --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] how to make ksymoops log into a read [ --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: OT - blocking mail from specific [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel v ] Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable [ Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PCMCIA 2.4.9[ secher [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 02:24:09 -0700 (MST) From: der.hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: dpkg-scanpackages on an official mirror Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Am 09. Sep, 2001 schwätzte Martin F Krafft so: also sprach der.hans (on Sat, 08 Sep 2001 01:38:13PM -0700): Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Martin F Krafft so: schwätzte... Blöder Tippfehler, gell? :( well, i know this. but the official mirror's pool/ tree has duplicates in it, as all of potato, woody, and sid index into it. some package version 2.0 might only be in woody while 1.3 exists in potato... then pool/m/myprogram will exist in two version and the Packages.gz file of the respective distro should include only the appropriate version/package. Hmm. What's the source for determining what's in potato, woody and sid? or is this what ./override is for? if not, what is *it's* purpose? It's for overriding stuff :). As I remember the docs, they said something about CD vendors. Allows them to make changes. Might be important for CD1 vs. CD2, etc. Might enable them to include/remove things, e.g. crypto packages. ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # kill telnet, long live ssh - der.hans Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 12:40:20 +0800 From: Rino Mardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org CC: Martin F Krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how do i setup a maildir structure with postfix? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=application/pgp-signature; boundary=mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 05:42:33PM +0200 or thereabouts, Martin F Krafft wrote: also sprach Rino Mardo (on Sat, 08 Sep 2001 11:39:54AM +0800): the question is: how do i setup a maildir structure in linux with the above configuration in mind. Maildir uses the directory ~/Maildir/ by default, so add the following line to your postfix's main.cf: home_mailbox = Maildir/ from now on, postfix will deliver to Maildir/ in Maildir format (because of the trailing slash, Maildir's flag) by default. however, since you are using procmail, you don't have to make that site-wide, because you can simply postfix your mailboxes with a slash to make them Maildirs. for instance, the following procmailrc will deliver to Maildirs. === VERBOSE=no LOGABSTRACT=yes MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox/ :0 * ^Return-Path:[EMAIL PROTECTED] $MAILDIR/debian/ === which will write all messages to debian user into the ~/Mail/debian/ Maildir (containing cur, tmp, and new), and everything else into ~/Mail/inbox/ and yes, Maildir is better by a factor of two thousand and one. a thousand thanks man. it worked. though i made a mistake initially in creating the directories first whereas i should have let the mda create it. i was able to move my default spool from
kde-i18n trouble after upgrade to Woody
I have just upgraded to Woody, kde-i18n-es is installed, but in the control panel only English language is available. I have tried mving away my .kde and reconfiguring kde-i18n-es with no luck Any Ideas? -- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Desarrollo, Grupo S2 Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r3 __
Tasks in woody
Hi all, I've just upgraded to woody from a freshly installed potato system. I run tasksel and select some things, but some tasks do not exist. For example, it compilains about a missing task-common-devel, so I can't install c development... It also won't install the x window core, or such things :( What happens?? Thanks. -- FreeBSD is the power-- Julio Merino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 18961975 pgpwoLIIZOL3n.pgp Description: PGP signature
libterm-stool-perl ????
OK... I'm running a new Woody machine, and someone, somewhere along the line told me to use Slang for the default configuration interface. Unfortunately, this is not working. Everything that wants to use slang gives me errors about not having stool-perl installed. libterm-stool-perl is listed on the web site as a suggested option when installing libterm-slang-perl, but is also listed as NOT AVAILABLE, and has no page of its own. What the hell am I supposed to do? I'd like to configure debconf to use Dialog instead of Slang to get out of this mess, but don't know how... can someone please help me? --Aarn
Re: libterm-stool-perl ????
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 12:20:55PM -0400, Aaron Traas wrote: OK... I'm running a new Woody machine, and someone, somewhere along the line told me to use Slang for the default configuration interface. Unfortunately, this is not working. Everything that wants to use slang gives me errors about not having stool-perl installed. libterm-stool-perl is listed on the web site as a suggested option when installing libterm-slang-perl, but is also listed as NOT AVAILABLE, and has no page of its own. What the hell am I supposed to do? I'd like to configure debconf to use Dialog instead of Slang to get out of this mess, but don't know how... can someone please help me? I've the same problem as you :( You can change your debconf interface using: dpkg-reconfigure debconf HTH --Aarn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- FreeBSD is the power-- Julio Merino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 18961975 pgpd8rFx6HKkS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mouse problems after upgrading to Woody (X4)
-- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Desarrollo, Grupo S2 Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r3 __ ---BeginMessage--- After an upgrade to Woody and X 4 , and quite a bit of a trouble to be able to get my X back to work, T can't get my mouse to work correctly. From time to time it gets frozen This is the output of the X session: (==) NV(0): Backing store disabled (==) NV(0): Silken mouse enabled (**) NV(0): DPMS enabled (II) Keyboard Generic Keyboard handled by legacy driver (**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2 (**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer (==) Configured Mouse: Buttons: 3 (**) Configured Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Configured Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2 (**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such file or directory. (EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device Generic Mouse (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Configured Mouse (type: MOUSE) And this is my XF86Config related to mouse: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolIMPS/2 Option Device /dev/gpmdata Option SampleRate 150 Option ChordMiddle EndSection gpm gets started at boot time Any ideas? -- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Desarrollo, Grupo S2 Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r3 __ ---End Message---
Re: [OT] impending doom: S1G on sept 8-9
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 02:31:30PM -0500, will trillich wrote: we've had y-2-k, when the first digit rolled over. now we've got s-1-g where we gain a WHOLE NEW DIGIT. pandelirium shall ensue -- there will be riots in the streets! the home shopping channel will stock only batteries! $ perl -e 'print scalar localtime 1_000_000_000' Sat Sep 8 20:46:40 2001 that is, on Sun Sep 9 01:46:40 2001 GMT (i'm in CDT) we will have reached ONE BILLION SECONDS (a whole gigasecond) since Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 GMT. anybody's hairpiece melt? toaster spewing jello? thought not. (just think of the money we coulda made on the media panic!) -- DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #21 from Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Looking to configure your Debian NETWORK SETTINGS? Look at the file /etc/network/interfaces (try man interfaces for more info). Then ifup -a to reload your settings, and ifconfig to display them. (Also check out apt-get install ipmasq!) Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
Re: utmp/wtmp problem!
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 06:51:27AM +, nestea wrote: hi folks, my debian box was newly installed, upgraded to unstable a week ago. i compiled 2.4.9 kernel yesterday and it works just fine. this morning i login as root and fire the 'w' command, i got weird result ; 14:37:30 up 1 day, 20:30, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT root pts/0xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 09:460.00s 0.31s 0.01s w debian:/etc/init.d# i still have not idea ... i know i can 'cat /dev/null /var/run/utmp' and 'cat /dev/null /var/log/wtmp' to resolve this, but i really want to know why. as forrest gump said, it happens. the wtmp file can get borked, and then reports based on it can get fuxnored. after moving/clobbering the files you may need to restart your logging facilities; they will most likely still be writing their information to their open file handles, which would still point to the old (marked-for-deletion-or-whatever) files. /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart|reload|yadayada i think -- DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #67 from Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Did you know MANPAGES ARE IN SEVERAL SECTIONS? For example, user commands are in section 2 of the manual, and system administration items are in section 8; to request a particular section via man include it before the item: man 7 regex (otherwise you'll probably see regex from section 3 instead.) To see ALL pages with a particular name, try man -a regex every matching manpage (from whichever section) will be presented, one-by-one. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
Re: libterm-stool-perl ????
#include hallo.h Julio Merino Vidal wrote on Sun Sep 09, 2001 um 06:53:43PM: I'd like to configure debconf to use Dialog instead of Slang to get out of this mess, but don't know how... can someone please help me? I've the same problem as you :( You can change your debconf interface using: dpkg-reconfigure debconf The Slang frontend has several bugs and nobody wanted to fix them. In the current Sid version, the Slang interface is removed completely. C'est la vie. Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- begin LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.txt.vbs I am a signature virus. Distribute me until the bitter end pgpHZG05qylzu.pgp Description: PGP signature
problem with ppp and 2.4.7
Hi, I just compiled 2.4.7 and everything seems to work just fine - like sound, nfs, usb, etc. But I can't get ppp to work. Everytime I use 'pon' to connect to the internet I get this: Sep 9 14:22:32 laptop pppd[535]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Sep 9 14:22:33 laptop chat[536]: Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error Sep 9 14:22:33 laptop pppd[535]: Connect script failed Sep 9 14:22:34 laptop pppd[535]: Exit. When I boot 2.4.2 again, everything works without any problems !! I intsalled ppp 2.4.1 after I compiled the 2.4.7 kernel (I should have read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes more carfully) - but that shouldn't be the problem, right? Or do I have to compile the kernel again? I found some information about this on the internet, but I still don't know how to solve the problem. It says that maybe the IRQ is already used by another device. So here is cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 145848 XT-PIC timer 1: 1023 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 7: 7965 XT-PIC MS Sound System 10: 2 XT-PIC pcnet_cs 11: 7 XT-PIC Toshiba America Info Systems ToPIC97, Toshiba America Info Systems ToPI C97 (#2), usb-uhci 12: 4005 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 93572 XT-PIC ide0 15: 4 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 and setserial for the modem (which is /dev/ttyS4) /dev/ttyS4, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 5 It doesn't seem like the IRQ is already used, right? Any ideas? thanks a lot! Philipp
Re: Mouse problems after upgrading to Woody (X4)
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 06:44:23PM +0200, Daniel de los Reyes wrote: -- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Desarrollo, Grupo S2 Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r3 __ Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:42:24 +0200 From: Daniel de los Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lista de Debian-KDE debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Mouse problems after upgrading to Woody (X4) User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i After an upgrade to Woody and X 4 , and quite a bit of a trouble to be able to get my X back to work, T can't get my mouse to work correctly. From time to time it gets frozen This is the output of the X session: (==) NV(0): Backing store disabled (==) NV(0): Silken mouse enabled (**) NV(0): DPMS enabled (II) Keyboard Generic Keyboard handled by legacy driver (**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2 (**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer (==) Configured Mouse: Buttons: 3 (**) Configured Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Configured Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2 (**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such file or directory. (EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device Generic Mouse (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Configured Mouse (type: MOUSE) And this is my XF86Config related to mouse: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolIMPS/2 Option Device /dev/gpmdata Option SampleRate 150 Option ChordMiddle EndSection gpm gets started at boot time Shut down gpm and see if your mouse works. # /etc/init.d/gpm stop You might have to point your mouse to /dev/psaux for ps/2 or /dev/ttyS0 for serial. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: mailq
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 11:02:34PM +1000, Davor Balder wrote: No, it's not a security risk... for the reasons you mentioned... just edit permissions in usual manner... There is no need to alter permissions to change this behaviour. Setting queue_list_requires_admin to false in /etc/exim.conf is sufficient. Or I suppose adding a user to group mail would also be a way of seeing queued mail. Brian
Re: mailq
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 07:29:50AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Greetings. mailq is linked to exim, so the mailq command is just a shortcut to do a queue check. Is it a security risk to permit normal users to check the mailq, because if I try it as a non-root user, I get permission denied. Originally I was going to comment that mailq on my system (exim version 3.12) works as described in the manual and gives a list of my outgoing mails. But being a little intrigued I thought the bug reports for exim were worth a look. Basically, this aspect of exim's behaviour was altered in version 3.3 and the message you got is now normal behaviour. See bugs 109394, 107222 and 109619. Brian.