gnucash & woody

2001-10-24 Thread John Kuhn
This is not another question about how to install gnucash 1.6.x on woody.
There have been a few recent threads which answer this question.  My
question is: when woody is released as stable, is there any chance that
it will include a modern gnucash?  Woody currently has gnucash 1.3.4
which is an experimental developers release from March 2000.  Since that
time, unstable has had at least a few 1.4.x and 1.6.x releases which
have not migrated to testing.

What is it that keeps a new gnucash out of testing?  I know that the
version of gnucash currently in unstable has unresolvable dependencies,
but when the package maintainer is available I'm sure these will be
resolved.  According to testing's update excuses, it appears to me that
the biggest hurdle is gnucash's dependency on guile1.4/libguile9.
So what is it that keeps libguile9 out of testing?  Is it because
libguile9 (unstable) conflicts with libguile6 (testing)?  I notice
that there are many packages in unstable that are kept back from testing
because of their dependency on libguile9.

John



Re: xine fullscreen?

2001-10-24 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Joerg Johannes, 
> I'm trying to get xine to work in fullscreen mode, but I can't get it.
> I have a GeForce card with nvidia drivers, XV is working, but xine only
> shows up in window mode ("F" during playback has no effect, and "-pf" on
> the command line neither...)
> I'm using the xine-ui deb from unstable. Has anybody managed to get
> fullscreen? What am I missing?

I've got a self-compilted 0.92, and full-screen works. 

Have you actually tried pressing the full-screen button? It looks like a
`X', but with chunky ends (as opposed to the close button, which just
looks like an `X' without chunky ends).

Appart from that, I don't know what to suggest. I certainly did not need
to make it suid root (*shudder*) to get it working.

cheers,

damon

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Re: Firewall on PC

2001-10-24 Thread Alexey Vyskubov
> Is the functionality level of the 2.4.x filter the same/greater/lower
> than the OpenBSD filter?.

>From my point of view functionality is very close.

-- 
Alexey



Re: Failing installing kernel-image-2.4.10 under woody

2001-10-24 Thread Vittorio
Hi Blars,
as a matter of fact it was dselect under woody to automatically select and 
install the package modutils-2.4.10-3 when I asked for kernel-2.4.10. 
So, do you mean that there's something wrong under debian woody?

Vittorio 

Blars Blarson [debian-user] <24/10/01 02:01 -0700>:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >depmod: Unexpected value (20) in 
> >'/lib/modules/2.4.10-586/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.o' for 
> >ieee1394_device_size
> > It is likely that the kernel structure has changed, if so then
> > you probably need a new version of modutils to handle this kernel.
> 
> Like the messages says, that kernel isn't compatable with the modutils
> you have installed.  You need an older version of modutils :-( I think
> modutils 2.4.8-1 will work (it does with kernel 2.4.9).  I've got a
> copy available on
> http://bleep.blars.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/base/modutils_2.4.8-1.deb
> (It's no longer in testing.)
> 
> -- 
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> "Text is a way we cheat time." -- Patrick Nielsen Hayden
> 



Re: xine fullscreen?

2001-10-24 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:58:26AM +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote:
   > Hello List
   > 
   > I'm trying to get xine to work in fullscreen mode, but I can't get it.
   > I have a GeForce card with nvidia drivers, XV is working, but xine only
   > shows up in window mode ("F" during playback has no effect, and "-pf" on
   > the command line neither...)
   > I'm using the xine-ui deb from unstable. Has anybody managed to get
   > fullscreen? What am I missing?
   > thanks

I run xine on potato and can run full screen. Nice software. But for
it run in fullscreen mode, you need the new versions of X (>4). You
will not get it with X 3.3.6.

HTH,

-- 
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-- from "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman"



Possible X bug?

2001-10-24 Thread Damon Muller
Hi all,

I think I may have possibly stumbled accross an X bug, but I was
interested to see if anyone else had encountered it before bugging the
harried souls of the X Strikeforce. A quick look at the billions of bugs
filed against xserver-xfree86 hasn't turned up anything relevant...

I have a few apps that can run windowed or full-screen (mplayer (latest
version self-compiled) and feh (latest Woody version) are two that I
have confirmed it on). When run full screen, they will be miss-placed.
They will be full-screen sized, and borderless, but start a few hundred
pixels down and accross from the top left-hand corner of the screen.

Imagine, for example, that the full-screen window had a window border
and was dragged some distance accross the screen, so it didn't fill the
whole screen. That's what it's like.

Now, when I run either of these programs in windowed mode (not full
screen), and then drag them into the very top left hand corner of the
screen, then close and run them full screen, they take up the entire
screen. So obviously they are remembering where they have been started
up (or the X server is, or the window manager is), and starting up from
that point when full-screened.

Originally I thought this was a bug in mplayer, because that's where I
first saw it, but now I have seen it in feh as well. Other apps that I
have tried which run full screen (xine and gqview, for example) do not
show this problem.

I'm running latest Woody with a Matrox G450 and sawfish. The following,
I think, are the relevant packages:

[rei:docs]% dpkg -l sawfish\* xserver\* feh\*|grep ^i
ii  sawfish-gnome  0.99-1 A highly configurable window manager for X11
ii  sawfish-merlin 1.0.1-1More flexible functions for sawfish.
ii  xserver-common 4.1.0-7files and utilities common to all X servers
ii  xserver-xfree8 4.1.0-7the XFree86 X server
ii  feh1.1.0-1imlib2 based image viewer

Is anyone else seeing these problems? Can anyone run feh or mplayer full
screen properly?

Even suggestions as to which package to file the bug(s) against would be
appreciated.

cheers,

damon


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To ease the gnawing vulture of thy mind,
By working wreakful vengeance on thy foes.
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Re: Firewall on PC

2001-10-24 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

plz. wrap lines at 72 chars. Thx.  
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Davi Leal wrote: 

> Hi all,
> 
> --- OpenBSD 2.9 (or any other version)  versus "iptables" GNU/Linux
> 2.4.x ---
> 
> If GNU/Linux is chosen, is Debian GNU/Linux 'testing' (woody) the right
> distribution?. No 'potato' due to it uses 2.2.x kernels. 
> 
Potato is easily adapted to 2.4 kernel. There is plenty written about it
on this list. You have to install modutils>2.4 and a newer ppp package.
I have a machine running this as firewall and it works fine. But I am a
lonely user, out of sight, so I do not know how it works on a big
firewall, but I do not think there would be much difference. iptables can
be configured pretty detailed. 

One thing that should be taken into account is keeping the system up to
date. It goed very easy with Debian, but I have no idea how BSD works with
this.


Greetz,
Sebastiaan

> I think that the subjects which must be taken into account to evaluate
> the Operating System and distribution to use must be: 
> - The security, stability, ... of the Operating System /
> distribution
> - The functionality level of the filter, for example: linux 2.2.x
> versus 2.4.x
> 
> Is OpenBSD more secure than GNU/Linux?. 
> 
> Is the functionality level of the 2.4.x filter the same/greater/lower than 
> the OpenBSD filter?.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Davi
> 



Bad memory?

2001-10-24 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hey,

I was trying to compile gaim last night, but gcc keeps dying of signal 11,
here's the output:

gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
make[2]: *** [autorecon.so] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gaim-0.46/plugins'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gaim-0.46'
make: *** [all] Error 2

I've heard that signal 11 is only caused by bad ram, so I installed memtest86
on my computer, and after about an hour, my RAM passed all the tests.  Could
it still be bad (It's worked fine for years), or is something else the problem?

Thanks,
Cameron Matheson

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Re: Adding Drives

2001-10-24 Thread R. Alexander
Sorry but I am confused.

If you add a physycal hard disk, the kernel upon recognizing it will assign
a DRIVE id such as /dev/hda for the first IDE drive, /dev/hdb, /dev/hdc for
the third IDE and so on.

Now, on you /dev/hdc drive you will need some partitions. Each primary
partition is called /dev/hdc1 through /dev/hdc4 (extended parts start from
/dev/hdc5).

You should create the filesystem on one of the partitions, not on the drive
e.g. mke2fs /dev/hdc1

Once the partition has a filesystem recognized by the kernel you can mount
it at will

In your situation mount /dev/hdc1 /data

where /data is a mountpoint (a directory on the /dev/hda3 partition's
filesystem) under which all the filesystem existing on /dev/hdc1 will appear
...

When you see it works allright you can add it to /etc/fstab ...

To wrap it up the (usual) hyerarchy is -> DISK 1->n Partition 1<-> 1
Filesystem ... hope this helps.

Ciao Bob

- Original Message -
From: "Michael Grover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: "Debian" 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2001 2:16
Subject: Re: Adding Drives


>
> Ok, I made a dir on hda3 called /data
>
> I was then able to mount hdc1.
>
> This has me confused?
>
> why I need a mount point on hda to get to hdc?
> Is there a place I can get more info on mount points, etc etc?
>
>   mike
>
>
> Michael Heldebrant wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 23:02, Michael Grover wrote:
> > > Does anybody know where I can find info on ading second hard drives?
> > >
> > > I added the second drive,
> > > ran "MAKEDEV hdc" ,
> > > ran "mke2fs /dev/hdc" ,
> > > added a entry to the fstab  file in the /etc directory.
> > >
> > > But I can not mount it?
> > >
> > > fstab line = "/dev/hdc1 /data   ext2defaults  11
> > >
> > >
> > > when I try to mount I get error "mount point data does not exist"
> >
> > mkdir /data
> >
> > retry mount and enjoy.
> >
> > --mike
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instalacion de potato

2001-10-24 Thread mimebla
buena s a todos .me gustaria ke me echaseis una mano ,voy directo al grano .
tengo un thinkpad 750c ,intento de instalar la potato via cdrom puerto 
paralelo pero por lo visto esto solo me funciona cuando instalo la suse 6.2.
Aparte el floppy del portatil es de 2.88 y me da probemas a la lectura del 
diskete rescue.
Lo tengo muy crudo?es esto un expediente X?estoi dessesperado,por favor.



Re: Modem configuration + Dial up - Procedure

2001-10-24 Thread John Hasler
Shaul Karl writes:
> You might install the pppconfig deb and run it.

He already has pppconfig.  It's in the base system.
-- 
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LILO : 2 linuses on 2 different partitions

2001-10-24 Thread Michel Loos
Hi,

I would like to be able to boot from lilo 2 different linuxes (debian
and Connectiva) each of which is installed in a different partition
and uses a 2.4.x kernel.

For the moment with the following configuration I have been sort of
unsuccesful (It searches the modules in the wrong place)

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
lba32
message=/boot/message
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.5-9cl
label=linux
root=/dev/hda1
read-only
image=/boot/memtest86
label=memtest
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=debian
root=/dev/hda3
read-only

the /boot/vmlinuz for debian should be on /dev/hda3

Any ideas on how to solve this?

Michel.





Re: xine fullscreen?

2001-10-24 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 11:58, Joerg Johannes wrote:
> Hello List
> 
> I'm trying to get xine to work in fullscreen mode, but I can't get it.
> I have a GeForce card with nvidia drivers, XV is working, but xine only
> shows up in window mode ("F" during playback has no effect, and "-pf" on
> the command line neither...)
> I'm using the xine-ui deb from unstable. Has anybody managed to get
> fullscreen? What am I missing?
> thanks
>  

Only a guess here, but brobably the full screen needs DGA, so the 
program requires to run suid root (but i'm not encouraging you to do so 
=)...


Andrea 




Debian & Kernel 2.4

2001-10-24 Thread rock

Hi everybody,

i'm currently using potato 2.2r3 the debian stable version.

The new features in the new kernel like iptables are interesting and i like 
to try it.


I have read the document at the url http://www.debian.org/News/2001/20010415

It contains the instructions to upgrade potato to the new kernel.

It says also that the packages are recompiled from the unstable 
distribution and then there are not guarantee that everything will


work perfectly.

Is there anyone who have try This upgrade

Are there other solutions???

Thanks to anyone.



Firewall on PC

2001-10-24 Thread Davi Leal



Hi all,
 
--- OpenBSD 2.9 (or any other version)  
  versus    "iptables" GNU/Linux 2.4.x ---
 
If GNU/Linux is chosen, is Debian GNU/Linux 
'testing' (woody) the right distribution?. No 'potato' due to it uses 2.2.x 
kernels.
 
I think that the subjects which must be taken into 
account to evaluate the Operating System and distribution to use must 
be:

    - The security, stability, ... 
of the Operating System / distribution    - 
The functionality level of the filter, for example: linux 2.2.x versus 
2.4.x
 
Is OpenBSD more secure than GNU/Linux?.
 
Is the functionality level of the 2.4.x filter the 
same/greater/lower than the OpenBSD filter?.
 
 
Regards,
Davi


Re: Help with ssh, please

2001-10-24 Thread BURLET Frederic
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Stan Brown wrote:

> I have a Debian potato + Progeney + 2.4.9 kernel machine. I have installed
> teh ssh package. I have installed openssh on the HP's on the network. I can
> ssh between the machines, but I'm still prompted for a password.
>
> How can I elimnate this prompt?

From man pages:

 ssh implements the RSA authentication protocol automatically.  The user
creates his/her RSA key pair by running ssh-keygen(1).  This stores the
private key in $HOME/.ssh/identity and the public key in
$HOME/.ssh/identity.pub in the user's home directory.  The user should
then copy the identity.pub to $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys in his/her home
directory on the remote machine (the authorized_keys file corresponds to
the conventional $HOME/.rhosts file, and has one key per line, though the
lines can be very long).  After this, the user can log in without giving
the password.  RSA authentication is much more secure than rhosts authen­
tication.

I hope that's the answer...

Fred.

>
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Re: Xfree is not working

2001-10-24 Thread Raffaele Sandrini

> What XFree level package did you install ?

??? Don't know what u mean.
>
> How did you generate the XF86Config-4 ?
>
> Cheers. Bob

Î have attached the XFree log and m< XF86Config-4. I use Xfree 4.1.0.1

cheers,
Raffaele


XFree86.0.log
Description: Binary data


XF86Config-4
Description: Binary data


Help with ssh, please

2001-10-24 Thread Stan Brown
I have a Debian potato + Progeney + 2.4.9 kernel machine. I have installed
teh ssh package. I have installed openssh on the HP's on the network. I can
ssh between the machines, but I'm still prompted for a password.

How can I elimnate this prompt?

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originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
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Re: I Think I Have What I Need! Going For It! STOP Make Menuconfig ERROR

2001-10-24 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, eDoc wrote:
>
> # cd linux
>
> Uh Oh!
>
> (I think you meant "cd pcmcia" because I can see something
> called "linux" in /usr/src/ trying to "cd" there gets only an error.)

no, i meant linux.  in the linux tar, there is a pcmcia directory.  that's
what i have to remove in order to get a clean kernel compile.

> I did execute "cd pcmcia" and then proceeded ...
>
> # rm -rf pcmcia

this wouldn't do anything, at least as of version 3.1.25.

> # make menuconfig
>
> "***No rule to make target 'menuconfig'. Stop"

make sure you're in your linux source directory (/usr/src/linux) when you
do this.

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lpc: conflicting informnation.

2001-10-24 Thread Adam Bogacki
Hi,
I'm getting conflicting info in trying to get my printer
going again. The following was done as root ...

# lpc start all

lp: printing enabled
daemon started

# lpc status all

lp: queuing is enabled
printing is enabled
no entries
no daemon present

Apparently, with the 'start' command the daemon is started but with the
'status' command immediately afterward it is not present.

Confused ?

So am I. Attempts to print are met with silence.

Any ideas ?

Adam Bogacki,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Java Virtual Machine

2001-10-24 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 14:13, Hall Stevenson wrote:
> 
> > Which will give you a Java Runtime Environment. Note
> > that this is non-free software.
> 
> Where can one get a truly 'free' version of Java ?? This would
> certainly appeal to Debian folks...

I will look for the "kaffe" package...


Andrea
 




Re: Adding Drives

2001-10-24 Thread Michael Grover

Ok, I made a dir on hda3 called /data

I was then able to mount hdc1.

This has me confused?

why I need a mount point on hda to get to hdc?
Is there a place I can get more info on mount points, etc etc?

  mike


Michael Heldebrant wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 23:02, Michael Grover wrote:
> > Does anybody know where I can find info on ading second hard drives?
> >
> > I added the second drive,
> > ran "MAKEDEV hdc" ,
> > ran "mke2fs /dev/hdc" ,
> > added a entry to the fstab  file in the /etc directory.
> >
> > But I can not mount it?
> >
> > fstab line = "/dev/hdc1 /data   ext2defaults  11
> >
> >
> > when I try to mount I get error "mount point data does not exist"
> 
> mkdir /data
> 
> retry mount and enjoy.
> 
> --mike
> 
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Re: Xfree is not working

2001-10-24 Thread R. Alexander
What XFree level package did you install ?

How did you generate the XF86Config-4 ?

Cheers. Bob


- Original Message -
From: "Raffaele Sandrini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2001 1:13
Subject: Xfree is not working


Hi,

I have updated woody yesterday. As i could see Xfree was updated to version
4.1 (i think).

After that its not starting. But doesn't output any error message it starts
and the shuts down.
It worked perfectly before the update.

Any hints?

cheers,
Raffaele




Re: help me with tar

2001-10-24 Thread Romuald DELAVERGNE

> So i use tar to compress my files before putting them on a
> storage band.

You do not need to create a file before.
Use tar without the option 'f'.



Re: Java Virtual Machine

2001-10-24 Thread Hall Stevenson

> Which will give you a Java Runtime Environment. Note
> that this is non-free software.

Where can one get a truly 'free' version of Java ?? This would
certainly appeal to Debian folks...

Hall



Re: help me with tar

2001-10-24 Thread Sebastiaan
High,

On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Angel MAN wrote:

> It's a long time since i wrote here but i've got a problem
> with tar
> i want to save some data from a server.
> So i use tar to compress my files before putting them on a
> storage band.
> But when my tar file override 2 GO, the programm exit and i
> can't save all my data.
> The server can coutain up to 80 Go of data so what can i do
> ??

Is this not the filesizelimit of ext2fs? Upgrade to 2.4 (>2.4.12),
I have been told.

But, if you do this on the server side on which you have not root access
to, try to split the data in several pieces (tar is a tape archiver, it
should be able to split the data, I guess).

Greetz,
Sebastiaan




Re: help me with tar

2001-10-24 Thread Romuald DELAVERGNE
> But when my tar file override 2 GO, the programm exit and i
> can't save all my data.

You need lfs patch to create a file with a size biggest than 2 GO.
However, you can use this backup command instead:
> tar -C /orig -cf - ./ | tar -C /dest -xf -



Re: Software DVD players

2001-10-24 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya oleksander

i tested a bunch of different svga cards w/ svideo/rca outputs..
but non could talk to a regular tv
- but some fo those svga cards... worked with Win98... :-(
( not with linux )

- even cards that proports to have linux drivers 
to display onto a reg tv  didnt work

- other folks in japan decided to skip the svga cards and use the
  tv out on the motherboards that have it...
- dont know if any worked with linux

c ya
alvin
http://www.Linux-Video.net/Video.Players

On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Oleksandr Moskalenko wrote:

>   To shift the gear again. Has anyone succeeded in outputting the DVD
> stream to a TV connected to the second head of a Matrox G400? I really
> wanna be able to watch DVD on the TV when I have guests over.
> 
>   Alex.



[no subject]

2001-10-24 Thread Radulovity Emil
Hello!
I want to know where can I get  Debian Woody ISO images.
I want to update my Potato system, I have slow connection and can`t use 
Internet for this.
I looked for ISO images, but didn't find one.
If you know the link, please send me!
Sincerelly yours:
Radulovity Emil

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xfree86 4.x & woody

2001-10-24 Thread Stefano

Hi everybody.

I've upgraded my debian potato to woody. BUT many things went wrong. The 
last one, meaning the not already solved one, is that the server X gives me 
this message:


Couldn't load XKB keymap falling back to pre-XKB keymap

and using setxkeymap

couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
...set the default ...
Segmentation fault

I have to say that I use the Italian keyboard, so the default doesn't work!

Actually I can't use the Alt-Gr key

What can I do?


TIA,

Stefano



Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brian Nelson  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Of course, the smoothest way to upgrade is to use dselect.

ROTFLMAO!!

Mike.
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 and I'm not sure about the former" -- Albert Einstein.



Re: Star Office 6

2001-10-24 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 10:20:56AM -0500, Hanasaki JiJi wrote:
> Where, exactly, did this text come from?  

It's quoted from the license agreement for Star Office 6 beta.


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Re: Help needed getting mail working.

2001-10-24 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I'm running testing, and I have both - /var/mail/$USER and 
>> /var/spool/mail/$USER. Why is this? 
>
> One is a symbolic link:
> 
> ls -l /var/spool/mail
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root  root   7 Jun 16 03:30 /var/spool/mail -> ../mail

Ah, stupid me; I only checked the file itself, and it wasn't symlink,
that's where I went wrong. Yes, indeed - /var/spool/mail points to
/var/mail. This was good to know,

> If you change directory to /var/spool/mail you will be transparently
> mapped into ../mail (/var/mail).

Yup. 

> Symbolic links are incredibly useful. 

They are, indeed. Whenever I compile a software from its sources,
I install it in /usr/local/stow/foo, then run `stow foo' and I've
symlinks nicely in /usr/local/bin pointing to the "real directory".
I think this is extremely convenient - programs are easy to remove
and the whole thing is very organised. And, I'm the kind of person,
who likes to organise everything. :-)

Thanks for the answers.

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Re: method POST to php

2001-10-24 Thread Michael Cole
The error.log reports normal operation.  No failed loading of .so's.
The httpd.conf does not have the Options +ExecCGI but the srm.conf
does.  Should this be in httpd.conf?  The LoadModule php4 is in
httpd.conf and the AddType is in the srm.conf.  Should there also be a
AddHandler and Action for the php module? I made all the changes that
you suggested in their respective config files, but it still didn't
work after stop and start apachectl.
Thanks for the help.
Michael

>On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 12:13:27PM +0200, Jean-Christophe Boggio wrote:
> Ref : Wednesday, October 24, 2001 2:02:23 AM
> 
> MC> I am having some difficulty finding what to do to fix this problem.  I
> MC> have Apache 1.3.9, PHP4 and Postgresql.  I am trying to POST to a php
> MC> document.  Then html form has  MC> action="validate.php">.  When I submit the information I get a 405
> MC> error, Method not Allowed.  
> 
> This is more an apache than debian question.
> 
> 1. checkout /var/log/apache/error_log to see if the problem comes from
> a missing (bad directory) validate.php and a (maybe) more precise
> error message.
> 
> 2. in your httpd.conf, check that the site's directory (or the
> DocumentRoot) has a line like :
> Options +ExecCGI
> 
> 3. Check that php code is ok for your httpd.conf : you should have
> these lines uncommented :
> LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
> 
> 4. if all fails, send me (or the list if it's ok to send such
> attachments to the list) the error_log line and your httpd.conf and I
> (we) will try to help you further.
> 
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Re: Xfree is not working

2001-10-24 Thread BURLET Frederic
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have updated woody yesterday. As i could see Xfree was updated to
> version 4.1 (i think).

To know which current version you are using : X -version

>
> After that its not starting. But doesn't output any error message
> it starts and the shuts down.
> It worked perfectly before the update.
>

For this one... no idea at this time... sorry

> Any hints?
>
> cheers,
> Raffaele
>

Fred.





Re: Problems configuring /etc/network/interfaces

2001-10-24 Thread Charles Bray
Petre, yes, my /etc/resolv.conf file is set up correctly.  Thanks.

Lars,

> Charles Bray wrote:
>
> > Right now, my /etc/network/interfaces file includes the following
> lines
> > (excluding comments):
> >
> > auto lo
> > iface lo inet loopback
> >
> > My understanding is that the "auto lo" line is supposed to activate
> the
> > loopback interface at boot time.  But evidently it doesn't.  After I
>
> > boot and log in as root, if I ping the localhost at 127.0.0.1, I get
> the
> > error message:
> >
> > neighbor table overflow
> >
> > At this point, the routing table (route -n command) doesn't list the
>
> > loopback interface, and I must manually activate and add it with the
>
> > lines:
> >
> > ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
> > route add 127.0.0.1 lo
>
> The route looks wrong to me. Something like
>
> route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo
>
> should be what you need..

So the lo device will take all traffic on the entire 127.0.0.0 network,
not just at 127.0.0.1.  Is this preferred?

> Instead of the two command you might want to try running
>
> ifup lo

I can't tell that this command does anything, but the "route add
-net " line works fine, although it doesn't seem to be needed (see
below).

> > Strangely (to me), if I comment out the "auto lo" line in
> > /etc/network/interfaces and reboot, I can then successfully ping the
>
> > loopback address, indicating that the interface has been
> automatically
> > activated.

So, as of now, I've commented out the "auto lo" line to avoid the
above-described "neighbor table overflow" error, and, although the
loopback interface isn't listed in the routing table, everything works
just fine.  I can ping localhost or 127.0.0.x with no problem.  I wish I
understood, but I guess I don't have to right now.

> > After successfully connecting to my ISP via serial modem (and after
> > manually adding the loopback interface), the routing table is as
> > follows:
> >
> > Destination  Gateway Genmask  Flags Metric  Ref Use
> Iface
> > 286.115.220.139  0.0.0.0  255.255.255.255   UH 0 0   0
> ppp0
> ---^ Something is definitely very very wrong here. Each field of the
> ip
> address should be in the interval 0..255, 286 just cannot happen...

Of course, you're right.  I'm sorry.  I tried to be very careful not to
make any mistakes, but the 8 in 286 was actually one of those zeros with
a diagonal line through it, and it looked like an 8 to my weary eyes.
Since my Linux computer isn't ready yet, I'm posting from my wife's
Windows machine.

> > 127.0.0.10.0.0.0  255.255.255.255   UH 0 0   0   lo
> > 192.168.1.0  0.0.0.0  255.255.255.0 U  0 0   0
> eth0
> > 0.0.0.0  192.168.1.1  0.0.0.0   UG 0 0   0
> eth0
> >
> > I can ping 286.115.220.139 as well as my machine's local network IP
> > address at 192.168.1.1, but I can't ping my ISP's DNS servers or
> > anywhere else on the internet.
>
> If you can ping that illegal address something is completely utterly
> wrong.

You make me laugh. :)

> Did you copy the info by hand and make a typo ?

< : )

> Your routing table looks very weird to me. Lets have a look...
> First of you need the loopback route:
>
> 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  0
> 0
> lo
>
> If its not present you should run
> route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo

Again, this doesn't seem to be necessary, but even when I do run this
command, it's not permanent.  After reboot, it's gone.  How can I fix
this?

> Your box is capable of finding itself without a route

I'm not sure I understand this.

> so the strange 286 route should go. Experiment with "route del" to
> get rid of it.

The "286" route was designated automatically when I dialed into my ISP.
It's the ISP's PPP server address.

> When looking for other addresses you need to first of all be able to
> find your gateway.

.

Please read my reply to Michael Heldebrandt regarding the gateway
problem.  Thanks for all your advice and time.  I deeply appreciate your
help.

Charles




Xfree is not working

2001-10-24 Thread Raffaele Sandrini



Hi,
 
I have updated woody yesterday. As i could see 
Xfree was updated to version 4.1 (i think).
 
After that its not starting. But doesn't output any 
error message it starts and the shuts down.
It worked perfectly before the update.
 
Any hints?
 
cheers,
Raffaele


Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:13:34AM +, Aurelio Turco wrote:
> Some will argue that it is good to do a complete reinstall
> occasionally, atleast on major distribution upgrades, as
> a kind of periodic spring cleaning (ensuring old and no
> longer needed files and directory structures etc get
> purged from the system).
> Distributions like Mandrake and Redhat seem to imply this.
> Debian seems to prefer otherwise?

Yes, we do. There are tools (like 'cruft') that can help you do that
sort of spring-cleaning. Reinstalling is really using an enormous hammer
to crack a rather small nut.

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Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Aurelio Turco
Brian Nelson wrote:
> 
> Aurelio Turco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Brian Nelson wrote:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Shepherd) writes:
> > > > When Woody is released as 3.0 and becomes Stable do I just so a
> > > > "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
> > >
> > > Yup.
> > >
> > > > Or do I need to do some kind of reinstall?
> > >
> > > Nope.
> > >
> >
> > Some will argue that it is good to do a complete reinstall
> > occasionally, atleast on major distribution upgrades, as
> > a kind of periodic spring cleaning (ensuring old and no
> > longer needed files and directory structures etc get
> > purged from the system).
> > Distributions like Mandrake and Redhat seem to imply this.
> > Debian seems to prefer otherwise?
> 
> No reinstalls are ever needed with debian.  This is not a Microsoft
> OS.
> 

So, "apt-get dist-upgrade" automatically purges
old and no longer needed files and directory structures?



Re: The old story - backspace in xterms

2001-10-24 Thread xio
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 12:27:00PM +0200, A.R. (Tom) Peters wrote:
> For some reason neither the Delete key nor the Backspace key work in my
> terminal windows (xterm, Konsole).  I have to use ^H on the command
> line.  The keys work however as expected in editors like vim, pine (in
> these very terminal windows), as well as in nedit.  There is nothing about
> the keys in my .bash_profile nor in my .Xdefaults.
> Can anybody tell me where and how the key settings are defined for xterms?
> --

Did you ever get an answer to this?  Use stty to display and define key
settings in terminal windows:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ stty -a
speed 38400 baud; rows 58; columns 166; line = 0;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^?; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = 
; start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V;
flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
-parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff 
-iuclc -ixany -imaxbel
opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0
isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop -echoprt 
echoctl echoke
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ stty erase ^H
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ stty -a
speed 38400 baud; rows 58; columns 166; line = 0;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^H; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = 
; start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V;
flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
-parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff 
-iuclc -ixany -imaxbel
opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0
isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop -echoprt 
echoctl echoke
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

To type in the  you need to press  first, and then either the backspace key 
or .

Cheers,

xio

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Re: Propossed Project: Odyssey

2001-10-24 Thread Wilmer van der Gaast
Today at 01:12:63 you wrote the following wise words:

> Now, my boss is going to get most of the heat, and he and his managers
> are looking for alternatives.
> 
I wish the ppl at my school were that smart as well...

There are some Debian-based distro's with very nice installers and
things like that already. One of then is Progeny, we have Corel... The
other one can be found via http://www.debianplanet.org/. Problem is that
Progeny is dead now... :-/

Just install Woody as soon as it's stable. It has a nice desktop, a nice
browser (Konqueror, you can even make it support things like ActiveX, so
no blahs about not-supported-by-browser..), and you can install
StarOffice for people who want to write something.

The fact that Linux is more difficult to maintain might just be a bit of
a good thing for schools. On schools the pupils seem to like to mess up
everything they can, and now they can't do that anymore... And cfengine
is said to be a good program for the sysop to configure lots of systems
at once.


Greetings,

Wilmer v/d Gaast.

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Re: method POST to php

2001-10-24 Thread Jean-Christophe Boggio
Ref : Wednesday, October 24, 2001 2:02:23 AM

MC> I am having some difficulty finding what to do to fix this problem.  I
MC> have Apache 1.3.9, PHP4 and Postgresql.  I am trying to POST to a php
MC> document.  Then html form has  action="validate.php">.  When I submit the information I get a 405
MC> error, Method not Allowed.  

This is more an apache than debian question.

1. checkout /var/log/apache/error_log to see if the problem comes from
a missing (bad directory) validate.php and a (maybe) more precise
error message.

2. in your httpd.conf, check that the site's directory (or the
DocumentRoot) has a line like :
Options +ExecCGI

3. Check that php code is ok for your httpd.conf : you should have
these lines uncommented :
LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php

4. if all fails, send me (or the list if it's ok to send such
attachments to the list) the error_log line and your httpd.conf and I
(we) will try to help you further.

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Re: Problems configuring /etc/network/interfaces

2001-10-24 Thread Charles Bray
Michael Heldebrandt wrote:

> I have the same lo lines and mine works fine.  How is your eth0
> interface configured?  Is it also in /etc/network/interfaces?

No, I'm still in the beginning stages of getting my Linux machine
usable, so I haven't networked with my wife's Windows machine yet.  I
did go ahead and set the Debian machine as the gateway machine (for
future masquerading), but I didn't do much else.

> More info on it can be found with:
> man interfaces

Thanks.

> It looks like you need a default gateway to the internet through your
> ppp0 interface instead of your eth0

Yes!  Thank you!  Your saying this led me to the solution of my original
problem, namely, not being able to connect to the internet.  I had
thought that I needed such a default gateway, but I understood that it
would be set up automatically when I signed on to my ISP (which, in
fact, is true).

> pppd should allow you the option of configuring a default gateway for
> the ppp0 interface in the config files for your specific host.

Yes, the configuration file is /etc/ppp/peers/provider.  The keyword to
set the option is "defaultroute".  But this was already set properly, so
there was some other problem.  As you suspected, it was the eth0 default
gateway.  I deleted it and the problem was fixed.  Well...not entirely.
I can't make the solution stick.  When I reboot, my default gateway gets
reset to the original eth0 interface!  How can I change this
permanently?

Also, according to one person, when I do get around to setting up my
LAN, I'm supposed to set up my ethernet gateway as a *network* route
using the "add -net" option of the route command; but this was not
suggested at
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=2b86ab0506c3635d&rnum=2 where
this very problem seems to have been the topic.  Does anybody know?

Thank you!
Charles



Re: Propossed Project: Odyssey

2001-10-24 Thread Wilmer van der Gaast
Yesterday at 18:21:63 you wrote the following wise words:

> Also, I think there is a lot of need for this sort of work.  I've been
> talking to some admins here about starting a project for backporting
> sets of packages from unstable to stable to do 3-6month update packs
> after stable comes out, the response has been positive.
> 
Now THAT sounds interesting! I surely hope you'll put it on an apt
source on-line somewhere when finished? I do the backports myself now,
but my system is quite a mess, now.. :-( And some programs just take up
too much time to compile.

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xine fullscreen?

2001-10-24 Thread Joerg Johannes
Hello List

I'm trying to get xine to work in fullscreen mode, but I can't get it.
I have a GeForce card with nvidia drivers, XV is working, but xine only
shows up in window mode ("F" during playback has no effect, and "-pf" on
the command line neither...)
I'm using the xine-ui deb from unstable. Has anybody managed to get
fullscreen? What am I missing?
thanks
 
joerg

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Re: apt logfile?

2001-10-24 Thread Alexander Steinert
> Is there an apt (or dpkg) logfile? Something that would keep a record of
> what was done when? Just a simple text file with a format of:
> 
>   
> 
> Does anyone else think this could be very useful?

Me2!

It's not what you meant, but sometimes I use
ls -ot /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.md5sums | head -20

Stony



help me with tar

2001-10-24 Thread Angel MAN
It's a long time since i wrote here but i've got a problem
with tar
i want to save some data from a server.
So i use tar to compress my files before putting them on a
storage band.
But when my tar file override 2 GO, the programm exit and i
can't save all my data.
The server can coutain up to 80 Go of data so what can i do
??
i try to make some Multi-Volumes but it don't work properly

Can anyone help me ... Thanks in advance :)
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Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Brian Nelson
"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 24-Oct-2001 Brian Nelson wrote:
> >> When Woody is released as 3.0 and becomes Stable do I just so a
> >> "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
> > 
> > Yup.
> > 
> 
> technically, apt-get upgrade will work.  dist-upgrade has a few more rules in
> it to make large upgrades go smoothly.

An 'apt-get upgrade' would likely leave you with many (100s?) of
packages held back.  It only upgrades packages currently installed,
and will never install new packages or remove old ones.

An 'apt-get dist-upgrade', on the other hand, would most likely not
hold any packages back, as it "intelligently handles changing
dependencies with new versions of packages; apt-get has a 'smart'
conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to upgrade the most
important packages at the expense of less important ones if necessary."

Of course, the smoothest way to upgrade is to use dselect.

-- 
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Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Brian Nelson
Aurelio Turco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Brian Nelson wrote:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Shepherd) writes:
> > > When Woody is released as 3.0 and becomes Stable do I just so a
> > > "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
> > 
> > Yup.
> > 
> > > Or do I need to do some kind of reinstall?
> > 
> > Nope.
> >
> 
> Some will argue that it is good to do a complete reinstall
> occasionally, atleast on major distribution upgrades, as
> a kind of periodic spring cleaning (ensuring old and no
> longer needed files and directory structures etc get
> purged from the system).
> Distributions like Mandrake and Redhat seem to imply this.
> Debian seems to prefer otherwise?

No reinstalls are ever needed with debian.  This is not a Microsoft
OS.

-- 
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Erik Steffl
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
...  ...
> >> Or do I need to do some kind of reinstall?
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> 
> There have been Debian machines that have been updated for 5 years.  In fact
> the joke among us Debian developers is that our installer is so bad because
> most of us only see it once.

  no kidding. I installed debian when the potato was unstable, I had to
install stable (which was really old by that time) since potato
installer didn't work... I was quite confused by dselect and
installation was quite, err... confused as well... I planned to make a
fresh install, but got the disk that was too big at that time (for
kernel used during installation etc.) and some other problems so I ended
up copying the 'draft' installation and I am happily using it till
now... it looks like it survived all the abuse so far since I do not see
any unusual problems (it went from slinky to potato to woody (unstable)
to sid (unstable) to woody (testing) to sid). I have to say it's quite
impressive.

  judging by this discussion I guess that's normal for debian...

  now spill the beans: it's not really a joke, right?

erik



Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Aurelio Turco
Brian Nelson wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Shepherd) writes:
> > When Woody is released as 3.0 and becomes Stable do I just so a
> > "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
> 
> Yup.
> 
> > Or do I need to do some kind of reinstall?
> 
> Nope.
>

Some will argue that it is good to do a complete reinstall
occasionally, atleast on major distribution upgrades, as
a kind of periodic spring cleaning (ensuring old and no
longer needed files and directory structures etc get
purged from the system).
Distributions like Mandrake and Redhat seem to imply this.
Debian seems to prefer otherwise?



Re: Modem configuration + Dial up - Procedure

2001-10-24 Thread Frank Zimmermann
Could somebody  pls tell me how Modem configuration + Dial up  is 
done on any Linux

box , if I am having an ISP ?

Thanks,


There is no simple answer to ppp configuration on any Linux box. 
Debian standard is pppconfig and then use pon/poff. Then there is 
wvdialconf and wvdial to dial in, this seems to be a little bit 
tricky on a Debian box. Most Distris have there own tools to 
configure (nearly) everything. On a Suse box it's done with 
YAST/YAST2 and I don't know about the others.


Frank

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Re: Failing installing kernel-image-2.4.10 under woody

2001-10-24 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>depmod: Unexpected value (20) in 
>'/lib/modules/2.4.10-586/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.o' for 
>ieee1394_device_size
>   It is likely that the kernel structure has changed, if so then
>   you probably need a new version of modutils to handle this kernel.

Like the messages says, that kernel isn't compatable with the modutils
you have installed.  You need an older version of modutils :-( I think
modutils 2.4.8-1 will work (it does with kernel 2.4.9).  I've got a
copy available on
http://bleep.blars.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/base/modutils_2.4.8-1.deb
(It's no longer in testing.)

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Abiword and libgal9 [was Re: Gnucash ]

2001-10-24 Thread Jim McCloskey

Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

|> Just for completeness, in case anyone else needs this, libgal9 is
|> there too: 
|>
|>   http://crdic.ath.cx/libgal9_0.10-1_i386.deb
|>
|> I'll leave them up for a few days.

Ahh---thank you so much for this. libgal9 is also required for the new
Abiword, which I had previously not been able to install, even though
there is a DEB package at the home-page which is said to work with
both woody and sid.

Jim



확인하세요

2001-10-24 Thread 박진재
안녕하세요
먼저 허락없이 메일드려 죄송합니다.. 불필요하신분들은 삭제하세요

최신CD을 저렴한가격에 판매합니다
최신게임.유틸프로그램.그래픽.멀티미디어.캐드.교육용. VCD.등
여러분들이 필요로하시는 시디을 다량보유하고 있습니다

신용은 물론 100프로 믿으셔도 됩니다

첨부된 화일(cd list. zip)을 다운받으신후에 디스크에 저장하신후
압축을풀고 살펴보십시요. 

믿고 거래하시면 만족하실겁니다

 == 보너스CD도 드립니다 =


참고로 이 메일을 보낸 아이디로는 연락이 되지 않습니다.[첨부화일안에연락처있습니다]
다시한번 메일드린거 사과드리며
여러분의 아이디는 무작위로 착출한것이니 다른걱정은 하지안으셔도 됩니다




 Next Entertainment, LYCOS

 즐겁지 않으면 인터넷이 아닙니다!!   http://www.lycos.co.kr
 최고급 멀티미디어 위락시설 - 라이코스 테레비존 (http://tvzone.lycos.co.kr)
 커플링은 싫어~  이젠 커플아이! - 라이코스 커플 (http://couple.lycos.co.kr)

<>


Failing installing kernel-image-2.4.10 under woody

2001-10-24 Thread Vittorio
I can't install kernel image 2.4.10 in woody properly.
Here's the script of
#apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.10-586

Sorry, kernel-image-2.4.10-586 is already the newest version
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7  not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Setting up kernel-image-2.4.10-586 (2.4.10-1) ...
depmod: Unexpected value (20) in 
'/lib/modules/2.4.10-586/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.o' for 
ieee1394_device_size
It is likely that the kernel structure has changed, if so then
you probably need a new version of modutils to handle this kernel.
Check linux/Documentation/Changes.
sed: can't read /proc/mounts: No such file or directory
Failed to create initrd image.
dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.10-586 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
Errors were encountered while processing:
 kernel-image-2.4.10-586
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


Now, the not fully installed package mentioned at the very beginning of this 
script is libggi2 because libggimisc2 is missing according to dselect and 
doesn't appear to be available (as a matter of fact I cannot see it in the 
listed packages).

What's the matter with the kernel 2.4.10 and what should I do?

Vittorio



Re: Java Virtual Machine

2001-10-24 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 09:51, Patrick Lane wrote:
> What do I need to do to get java working in Galeon and/or Mozilla? I'm 
> using unstable with current packages (not cvs). Thanks in advance.
> 

I've java working in both (i think) using the Blackdown j2re,look on
"http://www.blackdown.org"; for (correct me if i'm wrong) unofficial
packages.


Andrea



Is it a bug?

2001-10-24 Thread Erik Christiansen

Following an update from a working "stable" Debian installation,
to "unstable" (from an Australian mirror), running startx elicited:

X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory)

Trying:  strings /usr/bin/X11/X | grep X | more
shows "/etc/X11/X" appears in the executable.

The update had blown away startx, necessitating an apt-get
in order to get onto first base.

I'm now in a quandary: Did the update blow away more than just
a little, necessitating a re-installation from CD?

Erik



Re: segmentation fault??

2001-10-24 Thread BURLET Frederic
> Hi,
>
> This is my first time to meet this message and don't know why.
> The story is.
> This afternoon, I tried to install ssh3 for higher security.
> Follow standard step:
> configure
> make
> make install
>
> everything was fine, no error message showed on the screen.
> But, I can not connect to my server by ssh client server from poor win98.
> (This is another problem >_<)

For this problem (someone corrects me if I'm saying stupid things), you
have to configure ssh with --with-apm option thus: ./configure --with-apm

> So, I read FAQ. In FAQ said that I must check my ssh version,
> use command "ssh -V ". I did it, and then showed "segmentation fault" on my
> screen..
> Why???

Er... for this one... sorry :-( no idea

Fred.

> It is just simple command.
> Hope someone can tell me why. Please!! *_*
> And thanks for who read this mail.^^
>
> haheho
>
>
>
>





Re: intel fortran compiler

2001-10-24 Thread Emiel Metselaar
I also had some problems with alien, but since i just converted from a red 
hat machine and i had backups i could just *ahum* copy the backup /opt/intel 
directory and it worked. So try to find a rh machine and try the same 
approach.

Not clean & nice, but one could call it pragmatic

good luck


On Tuesday 23 October 2001 23:18, Dean Allen Provins wrote:
> Hello:
>
> You indicate that you are using a Pentium IV CPU.  This is a 32 bit
> processor, so the 64 bit FORTRAM shared libraries mentioned in your
> post (below) will never work.  You must install the 32 bit version.
> While I have but a Pentium II, I've had no trouble with the compiler.
>
> Dean
> 
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 06:34:29PM +0200, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcã wrote:
> > Hi all, I downloaded the intel compiler form Intel and I want
> > to check it on my pentium IV computer. I run unstable with 2.4.10
> > kernel.
> >
> > The tar file from Intel contain 5 rpm packages (for RH 6.2) and an
> > install script. I can't run the install script. I try to make .deb out of
> > .rpm using alien, but for few packages it is not working. I get this
> > error:
> >
> > computer: fortran# alien intel-efc64-5.0.1-37.ia64.rpm
> > objdump: debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libCEPCF90.so:
> > File format not recognized
> > objdump: debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libF90.so:
> > File format not recognized
> > objdump: debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libIEPCF90.so:
> > File format not recognized
> > objdump: debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libPOSF90.so:
> > File format not recognized
> > objdump: debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libcprts.so:
> > File format not recognized
> > objdump: debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libcprts.so.2:
> > File format not recognized
> > objdump: debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libcxa.so:
> > File format not recognized
> > objdump: debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libcxa.so.2:
> > File format not recognized
> > objdump: debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libintrins.so:
> > File format not recognized
> > objdump: debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libunwind.so:
> > File format not recognized
> > objdump:
> > debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/libunwind.so.2: File
> > format not recognized
> > dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: format of libmofl.so not recognized
> > dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: format of libmofl.so not recognized
> > dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: format of libsched.so not recognized
> > dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: format of libasmutils.so not recognized
> > dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: format of libSymDbg.so not recognized
> > dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on
> > `debian/intel-efc64/opt/intel/compiler50/ia64/lib/crtxi.o' gave error
> > exit status 1
> > dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code
> > make: [binary-arch] Error 1 (ignored)
> > dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture i386 does not appear
> > in package's list (ia64)
> > dh_gencontrol: command returned error code
> > make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1
> > Package build failed. Here's the log:
> > dh_testdir
> > dh_testdir
> > dh_testroot
> > dh_clean -k
> > dh_installdirs
> > cp -a `ls -1 |grep -v debian` debian/intel-efc64
> > dh_installdocs
> > dh_installchangelogs
> > dh_compress
> > dh_makeshlibs
> > dh_installdeb
> > dh_shlibdeps
> > dh_gencontrol
> >
> >
> > Out of 5 .rpm I made only 3 .deb. Did someone succeeded to install
> > this compiler?
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> > Ionel
> >
> > P.S. The compilers can be downloaded from
> > "http://developer.intel.com/software/products/eval/";
> > (version complete without support).
> >
> >
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[slightly OT] Emacs21 new features (was Re: kudos)

2001-10-24 Thread Jim McCloskey

On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 07:36:48PM -0500, DvB wrote:
> This may be taking this thread a little OT, but I have to ask... I've
> heard (on Slashdot, to be exact) that Emacs21 has some "new user
> oriented" features that can be annoying for more experienced users. What
> are they? (assuming there really are any) and just how annoying are
> they?

I'm a fairly experienced user (since 1988) and I'm used to doing lots
of customization, but I've not noticed anything annoying so far. What
has been very impressive is that things just work. On previous major
upgrades (18 > 19 > 20) a lot of the customization (and the added .el
files) would stumble and fall. Not this time.

Among all the new features, the new shell (eshell) is especially nice.

Jim



Re: Java Virtual Machine

2001-10-24 Thread david
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 12:51:31AM -0700, Patrick Lane wrote:
> What do I need to do to get java working in Galeon and/or Mozilla? I'm 
> using unstable with current packages (not cvs). Thanks in advance.


This worked for me (using the IBM JDK under Mandrake (currently moving
that machine over to Woody)):

cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
ln -s /opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/libjavaplugin_oji.so ./libjavaplugin_oji.so



Re: Java Virtual Machine

2001-10-24 Thread Danie Roux
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 12:51:31AM -0700, Patrick Lane wrote:
> What do I need to do to get java working in Galeon and/or Mozilla? I'm 
> using unstable with current packages (not cvs). Thanks in advance.

You put a line like this in your sources.list:

# Blackdown Java
deb http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/debian woody 
non-free

And then 

apt-get update && apt-get install j2re1.3

Which will give you a Java Runtime Environment. Note that this is
non-free software.

-- 
Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix



Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 24-Oct-2001 Brian Nelson wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Shepherd) writes:
> 
> Please wrap your lines at ~72 columns.
> 
>> I haven't been using Debian long enough to experience a full new
>> release.
>> 
>> Currently I'm running 2.2r3 and my apt-sources point to 'stable'.
>> 
>> When Woody is released as 3.0 and becomes Stable do I just so a
>> "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
> 
> Yup.
> 

technically, apt-get upgrade will work.  dist-upgrade has a few more rules in
it to make large upgrades go smoothly.

>> Or do I need to do some kind of reinstall?
> 
> Nope.
>  

There have been Debian machines that have been updated for 5 years.  In fact
the joke among us Debian developers is that our installer is so bad because
most of us only see it once.

>> It would be cool if apt could handle it all.
>> 
>> Also what happens if I choose to stay with 2.2r3, do I change
>> apt-sources to point to 'potato'?
> 

yes.  However we eventually move old releases to an archive and stop updating
them.  Once woody becomes stable potato will likely change very little if at
all.



Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

On 24 Oct 2001, Brian Nelson wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Shepherd) writes:
> 
> > When Woody is released as 3.0 and becomes Stable do I just so a
> > "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
> 
> Yup.
> 
Not: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?

Greetz,
Sebastiaan




Re: How do you apply an 'ac' patch?

2001-10-24 Thread Danie Roux
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 11:22:24PM +0200, Morbo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Sorry, I know this is basic stuff, but what is the correct way to apply an
> Alan Cox patch?
> (Or probably any patch for that matter.)
 
www.bzimage.org let's you download incremental patches. And has
instructions on how to use it.

-- 
Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix



Re: Propossed Project: Odyssey

2001-10-24 Thread David N. Welton
Scott Dier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > Therefore, I propose a new project: Project Odyssey.  To take the
> > long road from where we (the geeks) now are to create a true

Do you want to create something that 1) can be *used* by anyone, or
something that can also be 2) installed/admined by 'anyone'?  The
first is doable now.

You might have a look at 

http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/08/10/1441239

for the first case.

> I would attempt to not fork whatever work you do, but provide
> packages that work within debian for these things that track
> unstable and could be released with a future release of debian.

Debian's goals are not to provide ease of use at all costs.  And our
current packages aren't flexible enough, in my opinion, to provide
goal number 2) out of the box.

-- 
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Re: [possibly OT] Message Board <- what to use

2001-10-24 Thread Ramin Motakef
john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi!
> 
> I've been asked to find a Message Board (ie BBS) to be installed on a
> debian server. I've had a look around and found nothing that really
> excites me.
> 
> And when I look at UBB I see it relies on many files in /cgi-bin to be
> world writable. This worries me.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions for a message board that won't turn my
> hair white with worry?
> 
> Or are there no real issues with the UBB software, despite setting files
> 777?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> John P Foster
> 

mwforum ( http://www.mawic.de/mwforum ) works nice for me and is GPL.

Ramin



Re: Problems configuring /etc/network/interfaces

2001-10-24 Thread Lars Knudsen
Charles Bray wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm fairly new to Linux and just switched from SuSE to Debian
> 2.2.19pre17 a few days ago.  I have a Dell Inspiron 7000 notebook.  I've
> tried very hard to solve this problem on my own, but the solution
> continues to escape me.
> 
> Right now, my /etc/network/interfaces file includes the following lines
> (excluding comments):
> 
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
> 
> My understanding is that the "auto lo" line is supposed to activate the
> loopback interface at boot time.  But evidently it doesn't.  After I
> boot and log in as root, if I ping the localhost at 127.0.0.1, I get the
> error message:
> 
> neighbor table overflow
> 
> At this point, the routing table (route -n command) doesn't list the
> loopback interface, and I must manually activate and add it with the
> lines:
> 
> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
> route add 127.0.0.1 lo

The route looks wrong to me. Something like

route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo

should be what you need..

Instead of the two command you might want to try running

ifup lo

> 
> After doing this, I no longer receive the overflow error and can ping
> the localhost.
> 
> Strangely (to me), if I comment out the "auto lo" line in
> /etc/network/interfaces and reboot, I can then successfully ping the
> loopback address, indicating that the interface has been automatically
> activated.  (So "auto lo" is evidently shutting it down.  I wish I could
> find more thorough instructions for configuring
> /etc/network/interfaces.)  Although the interface has been activated
> automatically, I still have to add it to the routing table using the
> above route command.  But, of course, I don't want to have to add the
> route manually every time I reboot.
> 
> All of the above was learned while I was trying to figure out my
> original problem, which is this:
> 
> After successfully connecting to my ISP via serial modem (and after
> manually adding the loopback interface), the routing table is as
> follows:
> 
> Destination  Gateway Genmask  Flags Metric  Ref Use Iface
> 286.115.220.139  0.0.0.0  255.255.255.255   UH 0 0   0   ppp0
---^ Something is definitely very very wrong here. Each field of the ip
address should be in the interval 0..255, 286 just cannot happen...

> 127.0.0.10.0.0.0  255.255.255.255   UH 0 0   0   lo
> 192.168.1.0  0.0.0.0  255.255.255.0 U  0 0   0   eth0
> 0.0.0.0  192.168.1.1  0.0.0.0   UG 0 0   0   eth0
> 
> I can ping 286.115.220.139 as well as my machine's local network IP
> address at 192.168.1.1, but I can't ping my ISP's DNS servers or
> anywhere else on the internet.

If you can ping that illegal address something is completely utterly 
wrong. Did you copy the info by hand and make a typo ?

Your routing table looks very weird to me. Lets have a look... 
First of you need the loopback route:

127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
lo

If its not present you should run
route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo

Your box is capable of finding itself without a route so the strange
286 route should go. Experiment with "route del" to get rid of it.

When looking for other addresses you need to first of all be able to
find your gateway. From your info the gateway is 192.168.1.1 and it is
at the other end of the ppp0 interface so you need a line like:

192.168.1.1   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00
ppp0

instead of the one you have on eth0. It should appear automagically 
when you bring up the interface but otherwise you can add it with

route add -host 192.168.1.1 ppp0

Now that your box can find the local net, itself and its gateway the
only thing missing is everything else. Again your routing table has an 
entry going through eth0 but it should go through ppp0. Try

route add default gw 192.168.1.1 ppp0

In the end the output of route -n should be

DestinationGateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
192.168.1.10.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00
ppp0
127.0.0.0  0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
lo
0.0.0.0192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
ppp0

Take care to remove any superflous lines.

Happy hacking,

\Gandalf



Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Brian Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Shepherd) writes:

Please wrap your lines at ~72 columns.

> I haven't been using Debian long enough to experience a full new
> release.
> 
> Currently I'm running 2.2r3 and my apt-sources point to 'stable'.
> 
> When Woody is released as 3.0 and becomes Stable do I just so a
> "apt-get dist-upgrade"?

Yup.

> Or do I need to do some kind of reinstall?

Nope.
 
> It would be cool if apt could handle it all.
> 
> Also what happens if I choose to stay with 2.2r3, do I change
> apt-sources to point to 'potato'?

Yup.

-- 
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Java Virtual Machine

2001-10-24 Thread Patrick Lane
What do I need to do to get java working in Galeon and/or Mozilla? I'm 
using unstable with current packages (not cvs). Thanks in advance.


--Patrick



Re: fatal X server error

2001-10-24 Thread j
On Wednesday 24 October 2001 09:28, Rikki Hall wrote:

> Others have had this problem and solved it by reinstalling xfonts
> packages,

i removed all fonts and then installed them again. it worked. kinda.
It failed again when i added xfonts-scalable

btw: what is defoma and can it help in this situation ?
what is /etc/X11/fonts for ?

-- 
BOFH excuse #110:

The rolling stones concert down the road caused a brown out



What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread David Shepherd
Hi All

I haven't been using Debian long enough to experience a full new release.

Currently I'm running 2.2r3 and my apt-sources point to 'stable'.

When Woody is released as 3.0 and becomes Stable do I just so a "apt-get 
dist-upgrade"?  Or do I need to do some kind of reinstall?

It would be cool if apt could handle it all.

Also what happens if I choose to stay with 2.2r3, do I change apt-sources to 
point to 'potato'?

Thanks for your help

Dave
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segmentation fault??

2001-10-24 Thread haheho
Hi,

This is my first time to meet this message and don't know why.
The story is.
This afternoon, I tried to install ssh3 for higher security.
Follow standard step:
configure
make
make install

everything was fine, no error message showed on the screen.
But, I can not connect to my server by ssh client server from poor win98.
(This is another problem >_<)
So, I read FAQ. In FAQ said that I must check my ssh version,
use command "ssh -V ". I did it, and then showed "segmentation fault" on my
screen..
Why???
It is just simple command.
Hope someone can tell me why. Please!! *_*
And thanks for who read this mail.^^

haheho





Re: lpr doesn't work under woody

2001-10-24 Thread Vittorio
What is weird is that many applications under gnome (netscape, gimp,
staroffice with generic printer etc) are able to print correctly using
"lpr -Plp" while the same command under a terminal/console dies
silently. 

Vittorio

Sebastiaan [debian-user] <23/10/01 16:07 +0200>:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Vittorio wrote:
> 
> > While under potato I didn't have any difficulty to make my Epson
> > StylusColor 640 work using lpr and magicfilter, after installing woody
> > from scratch I cannot print any longer.
> > 
> > I'm using -as usual - lpr & magicfilter. I've installed the right
> > filter using magicfilterconfig. To no avail!
> > 
> > When I try for instance a "lpr /etc/motd" nothing happens.
> > 
> > I've checked the connection with my printer issuing:
> > echo /etc/motd > /dev/lp
> > and the file is printed regularly.
> > 
> > What should I check now to make the printer work? 
> > 
> Check /etc/printcap and try to figure out more with lpc (like 'lpc status
> all') if the file arrives at the spool dir.
> 
> Greetz,
> Sebastiaan
> 
> 
> 
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fatal X server error

2001-10-24 Thread Rikki Hall
X is failing thusly:

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

Others have had this problem and solved it by reinstalling xfonts
packages, but I have done a forced reinstall ('apt-get --reinstall install
...') of xfonts-base, xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi, and xfonts-scalable,
and it hasn't helped.

When I reinstalled xfonts-scalable, it complained "Running xftcache in
Type1 font directory...cannot open file "/etc/X11/XftConfig"".  That file
does not exist.  Also the X server complains, "error opening security
policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy", another
non-existent file.  Should these files exist?

>From X server output: (**) FontPath set to
"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"

This tells me that all these directories are acceptable to the server, yet
it can't find the default font for some reason.  Any idea why?  Is it
possible to change the default font to something else?

I'm using the xfont packages from sid and running a 2.4.12 kernel.  I
think I'll go try the woody packages instead . . .

Thank you,
Rikki Hall



Re: Messages being frozen with exim.

2001-10-24 Thread Sam Varghese
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 04:50:10PM -0400, Tommy Moore wrote:
> Lately in my log file for exim I see a bunch of messages that certain mail
> messages are being frozen.
> Where should I look to see the reason for this nd how do I unfreeze them?


The command mailq will show you what messages are frozen:

rpds:/home/cyberess# mailq

11d  3.4K 15sIjN-0005OC-00 <> *** frozen ***
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

9d  3.1K 15t0JI-0007z8-00 <> *** frozen ***
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
The first thing on the line (here it's 11d) is how long the message has been
waiting to be delivered (11d = 11 days). 
You can check what's going on by looking in the /var/spool/exim/msglog
directory - it contains one file for each message waiting to be delivered
with reasons why it hasn't been yet. 

You can tell exim try a frozen message again by doing

exim -M 15sIjN-0005OC-00

(get the message ID from the mailq list or /var/spool/exim/msglog) or you
 can retry all frozen messages by doing

exim -qff

Note - before you do that, you should probably have a look at the messages
(in /var/spool/exim/input - there's two files for each message) and cancel
any that you don't want delivered any more. The command is:

exim -Mg 15sIjN-0005OC-00

(just the message ID - leave off the -H or -D). You'll get an e-mail saying
the message was cancelled.

HTH.

Sam
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Re: PROPOSED: new package: xinit

2001-10-24 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

>   What about upgrades?  Initial installs probably aren't a problem, but
> people upgrading without metapackages will get xbase-clients and not xinit!
> (thus preventing them from starting X at all, at least using the common
>  methods)

I don't think people will get xbase-clients in the current situation.

In my experience of upgrading several systems, upgrading from potato shall see 
most of X-related packages being removed, notably, "startx" goes missing.

If we kept "task-x-window-system-core" package, that might have helped us
upgrade (i am not sure), but we don't have such thing to keep our packages 
together, it seems.


If you have any doubt, try:

# pbuilder create --distribution potato --basetgz ~/base-potato.tgz
# pbuilder login --basetgz ~/base-potato.tgz

and install X, and upgrade to woody from there... (if you have the bandwidth 
etc.)

Upgrading from potato with base and build-essential and 
task-x-window-system-core installed:

For woody:
bin/bash-2.03# apt-get dist-upgrade -s |more
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  console-tools task-x-window-system-core xbase-clients xfonts-100dpi
  xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cpp-2.95 g++-2.95 gcc-2.95 ifupdown ipchains klogd libcap1 libdb3 libdps1
  libfreetype6 libpcap0 libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 libxaw6 libxaw7 net-tools
  netkit-inetd netkit-ping perl perl-modules xlibs 
The following packages have been kept back
  base-config console-data xserver-common xserver-svga 
83 packages upgraded, 20 newly installed, 7 to remove and 4 not upgraded.


For sid:
bin/bash-2.03# apt-get dist-upgrade -s |more
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  console-tools task-x-window-system-core xbase-clients xfonts-100dpi
  xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cpp-2.95 g++-2.95 gcc-2.95 ifupdown ipchains klogd libcap1 libdb3 libdps1
  libfreetype6 libpcap0 libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 libxaw6 libxaw7 net-tools
  netkit-inetd netkit-ping perl perl-modules xlibs 
The following packages have been kept back
  base-config console-data pcmcia-cs xserver-common xserver-svga 


regards,
junichi

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Re: how to install aha1542 kernel module

2001-10-24 Thread Johnny Ernst Nielsen
>On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Darren Wyn Rees wrote:
>(snip)
>> I do not understand your response.  I am not seeking to recompile a new

>> kernel, but I want to make a module available to the kernel.
>
>Where are you going to get the module from.

Darren could get the modules off the official binary Debian CDs.
The good tool modconf (or modconfig - I can never remember) is a menu driven
module configurator.
No need to modprobe and all that. Just use modconf.

Cheers :o)

Johnny :o)



Re: lpr doesn't work under woody

2001-10-24 Thread Lars Jensen
I had the same problem. I noticed that /var/spool/lpd has different
group/ownershipin woody, so I simply replaced my /var/spool/lpd
directory in woody with that from potato (I did a cp -p to preserve
ownerships and permissions). After that everything worked fine.

Lars.

On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Vittorio wrote:

> While under potato I didn't have any difficulty to make my Epson
> StylusColor 640 work using lpr and magicfilter, after installing woody
> from scratch I cannot print any longer.
> 
> I'm using -as usual - lpr & magicfilter. I've installed the right
> filter using magicfilterconfig. To no avail!
> 
> When I try for instance a "lpr /etc/motd" nothing happens.
> 
> I've checked the connection with my printer issuing:
> echo /etc/motd > /dev/lp
> and the file is printed regularly.
> 
> What should I check now to make the printer work? 
> 
> Vittorio
> 
> 
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Re: how to install aha1542 kernel module

2001-10-24 Thread Johnny Ernst Nielsen
>> >Linux debian 2.2.19pre17 #1 Tue Mar 13 22:37:59 EST 2001 i686 unknown

>> >
>> > Would someone please explain where I can find this module and
>> > how to install it ?
>> 
>> I'm using kernel-source-2.2.19-8 and the option is CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542
in
>> the kernel source's .config file.
>
>I do not understand your response.  I am not seeking to recompile a new

>kernel, but I want to make a module available to the kernel.

2.2.19pre17 I think is the standard kernel in Debian 2.2r3

If you have the binary CDs you can use modconf (or is it modconfig) to install
and remove modules.
It's menu driven and easy to use.

I beleive you should install the sg module (SCSI Generic).
If your burner is an IDE burner you will also need to install the ide-scsi
module (or is that scsi-ide).
If you install the ide-scsi module you need to fiddle with the append line
in lilo to make your IDE drive appear as a SCSI drive, and you must make
the link /dev/cdrom point to the /dev/scd# that is now your CD-RW device.


I don't remember the syntax off the top of my head. I'm at my job where there's
no Linux boxes. I can look up the details for you when I get back home if
you want.

Cheers :o)

Johnny :o)



Re: lpr doesn't work under woody

2001-10-24 Thread Brian Nelson
Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks. I've had a look a CUPS but trying 
> 
> 'apt-get install cups'
> 
> gives me a response along the lines that there is no such package.
> 
> Has it been debianised ?

$ dpkg -l 'cups*'

or

$ apt-cache search cups

Also, postfix replies and trimming are good things.

-- 
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Re: How do you apply an 'ac' patch?

2001-10-24 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 07:55:26PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Morbo([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:

> > Sorry, I know this is basic stuff, but what is the correct way to
> > apply an Alan Cox patch?
> > (Or probably any patch for that matter.)
 
>   Be aware that you have to use patches in order. ie. if there is a
> patch-2.4.12-ac[1,2,3,4,5] they have to be applied in order.

No, these patches are always against the stable kernel. You don't have
to apply the older patches.

-- 
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Re: root disk

2001-10-24 Thread nate
Ian Frizzell said:
> Hello -
> I'm having difficulties getting the root disk to work.
> I insert the rescue disk at boot up then it load the kernel and
> asks for a root disk. I insert the root disk and hit enter - when I
> do it says "Compressed Image found at block 0" And I'm not sure
> what I'm doing wrong - but if there is anyway you could offer some
> advice that would be great. Thanks.

does it crash or something? that is the message it should
show..and a minute or 2 later the installer should load depending
on the speed of the system.


nate





Re: lpr doesn't work under woody

2001-10-24 Thread Adam Bogacki
Thanks. I've had a look a CUPS but trying 

'apt-get install cups'

gives me a response along the lines that there is no such package.

Has it been debianised ?

Adam Bogacki,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 09:30:22PM -0700 or thereabouts, K. David Prince wrote:
> Try using cups + cupsomatic.  It's a complete replacement of lpd, etc.  No
> more printcap files and magic filters to worry about.  I've installed it
> on more than a dozen woody machines so far.  Printers include HP LaserJet
> 4000, HP LaserJet IIISi, HP LaserJet4SiMx, and the good old LaserJet 4m
> machines.  
> 
> By the way, "Debian Unleashed" is my all time favorite Debian book, but,
> alas, it is quite dated!  I sent a note to the publisher and author to see
> if an update will be out soon.  I got no answer.  Oh, well
> 
> Good Luck,
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Adam Bogacki wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Yep, I'm having the same problem. I'm running an EPSON Stylus Photo
> > 700 under woody using printtool (which I thought had conflicted with
> > LPRng when I tried to install what 'Debian Unleashed', 2000, described
> > as "Debian's native printing model") ... If it is as simple as changing
> > /dev/lp1 t /dev/lp0 it is worth trying.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Adam Bogacki,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 05:48:34PM -0400 or thereabouts, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > > Thus spake Sebastiaan:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Vittorio wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > While under potato I didn't have any difficulty to make my Epson
> > > > > StylusColor 640 work using lpr and magicfilter, after installing woody
> > > > > from scratch I cannot print any longer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm using -as usual - lpr & magicfilter. I've installed the right
> > > > > filter using magicfilterconfig. To no avail!
> > > > > 
> > > > > When I try for instance a "lpr /etc/motd" nothing happens.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've checked the connection with my printer issuing:
> > > > > echo /etc/motd > /dev/lp
> > > > > and the file is printed regularly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What should I check now to make the printer work? 
> > > > > 
> > > > Check /etc/printcap and try to figure out more with lpc (like 'lpc 
> > > > status
> > > > all') if the file arrives at the spool dir.
> > > > 
> > > > Greetz,
> > > > Sebastiaan
> > > 
> > > I don't know if this is your problem, but I seem to remeber that when I
> > > upgraded, my printer port changed from /dev/lp1 to /dev/lp0 - again, I
> > > don't know if that was a dist upgrade or a kernel upgrade, but it killed
> > > my printing for a while until I figured it out.
> > > HTH,
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > There but for the grace of God, goes God.
> > >   -- Winston Churchill, speaking of Sir Stafford Cripps.
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Re: Adding Drives

2001-10-24 Thread Allen Wayne Best
michael:

by the way, there is nothing mystical about putting your new drive as "data" 
in the root. you can put it anywhere you think it should be mounted. for 
example, if this were to be a part of a database installation, say postgres, 
you could conceivably put this in a directory called /db/postgres/flyters/. 
in that case, you would:

i am assuming that the device containing db is hdb5, and that the directories 
postgres/flyters reside on the physical device /dev/hdb5 (though this is not 
necessary.) in this example, make sure data is mounted **after** db.

mkdir /db/postgres/flyters/data

and in your fstab, put the line 
/dev/hdb5   /db   ext2  defaults   1 2
/dev/hdc1   /db/postgres/flyters/data   ext2defaults 1 2

hope this did not muddle :<)

On Tuesday 23 October 2001 21:12, Michael Heldebrant pronounced:
> On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 23:02, Michael Grover wrote:
> > Does anybody know where I can find info on ading second hard drives?
> > 
> > I added the second drive,
> > ran "MAKEDEV hdc" ,
> > ran "mke2fs /dev/hdc" ,
> > added a entry to the fstab  file in the /etc directory.
> > 
> > But I can not mount it?
> > 
> > fstab line = "/dev/hdc1   /data   ext2defaults  11
> > 
> > 
> > when I try to mount I get error "mount point data does not exist"
> 
> mkdir /data
> 
> retry mount and enjoy.
> 
> --mike
> 
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root disk

2001-10-24 Thread Ian Frizzell



Hello - 
I'm having difficulties getting the root disk to 
work.
I insert the rescue disk at boot up then it load 
the kernel and asks for a root disk.
I insert the root disk and hit enter - when I do it 
says "Compressed Image found at block 0"
And I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong - but if 
there is anyway you could offer some advice that would be great.
Thanks.
 
Ian Frizzell
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I Think I Have What I Need! Going For It! STOP Make Menuconfig ERROR

2001-10-24 Thread eDoc
I have the following and am about to reboot ... pray!  :-)

Progeny update/upgrade to Unstable:

Steps:

Uncommented only unstable in sources.list
apt-get update
dpkg --purge --force-depends libfreetype6
apt-get -f dist-upgrade

(got an error on gdm)

Ran  "apt-get -f dist-upgrade"  again.

(additional gdnumeric error or something)

Ignored the error and Downloaded the following to /usr/src/ :

linux-2.4.12.tar.gz
(Found this at: http://www.kernel.org )
pcmcia-cs.3.1.29.tar.gz
(Found this at: http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/  )
modutils_2.4.10-3_i386.deb
(Found this at: http://ftp.eecs.umich.edu/debian/pool/main/m/modutils/ )

Copied all three to  /stuff  just in case something trashes what it expects
to find in /usr/src/   ;-)

Rebooted.

No pcmcia.

Rebooted and broke out to a command prompt (I think I used CTRL-ALT-F2
or something as Progeny-Unstable was loading).

Loaded Linux Kernel 2.4.12 and other stuff using the following instructions
from Stephen E. Hargrove ...

# tar xfvz linux-whatever.tar.gz

(seemd to go well)

# rm -rf linux

(OK)

# ln -s linux-whatever linux

(OK)

# tar xfvz pcmcia-cs-whatever.tar.gz

(OK)

# ln -s pcmcia-cs-whatever pcmcia

(OK)

# cd linux

Uh Oh!

(I think you meant "cd pcmcia" because I can see something
called "linux" in /usr/src/ trying to "cd" there gets only an error.)

I did execute "cd pcmcia" and then proceeded ...

# rm -rf pcmcia

(OK)

# make menuconfig

YUCK!  An old 'enemy' returns!

"***No rule to make target 'menuconfig'. Stop"

And I was getting so hopeful ... grrr!

Now what, please?

Sigh ... Thanks!  Doc

~~
The following is on hold until the "make menuconfig" problem is resolved.
~~

... configure stuff ...
# make dep
# make bzImage
... edits for lilo / grub ...
... move /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage to boot ...
... /sbin/lilo or whatever you do for grub
# make modules; make modules_install
# cd ../pcmcia
# make config
# make all
# make install
# shutdown -r now
... boot to new kernel ...

for my set up, i was /never/ able to get any 2.4.x kernel to compile with
the "built-in" pcmcia stuff.  they crapped out /every single time/.  so, i
just delete the pcmcia directory and go with the pcmcia-cs stuff.  it's
worked well on both of my laptops.

i'm sorry that i can't help you with grub.  i don't have any experience
with it.  hopes this helps.  its nothing but a scaled down version of the
forest you're toting around, i'm sure.




Re: pty-redir

2001-10-24 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 12:26:13AM -0400, Adam John Henry wrote:
> pty-redir seems to be an essential program used to establish
> a VPN using SSH+PPP.  However, it would appear that, for
> whatever reason(s), it has not been debianized.
> Unfortunately, I am unable to download it from its source:
> 
>   ftp://ftp.vein.hu/ssa/contrib/mag/pty-redir-0.1.tar.gz
> 
> Could anyone please offer a solution to this?  I read
> somewhere that this program "must" be compiled, but I don't
> completely understand why.  Also, what is preventing it from
> being released as a dpkg?  I would like to get it from a
> source I 'trust'...

I have a Linux version here:

ftp://marcus.debian.net/pub/pty-redir/


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