Info about MPICH

[Kapil Khosla]

Hi,
I have installed the MPICH libraries which allow us to run MPI programs on 
multiple nodes. I currently run my MPI programs on only one node as I am not on 
the network

Every time i run my program to simulate more than one node, I have to enter my 
password.eg
mpirun -np 32 a.out
 
 means that I have to enter password 32 times.
If anyone knows the solution for this problem ,please let me know,
Thanks
Kapil


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Re: nanlei.com

[timothy bauscher]

I consider that email to be an advertisement

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And the GNU spake saying:

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accept responsibility for the fee,
 
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  others in connection with your advertisement, and
 
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Need some sound advice - SB Live!

[Bill Moseley]

Argh! - HOWTO overload.

I've got a Sound Blaster Live Value.  I'm running Debian Testing.  I've build 
my own kernel 2.4.17 from kernel-source package.  I did build the emu10k1 
module.  I ran modconf and selected emu10k1.  emu10k1 loads fine without 
errors.  I can cp some .wav files to /dev/audio and hear the sound.  Some .wav 
files sound ok, some others sound bad.

For what it's worth:

# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P  
emu10k151008   0 
ac97_codec  9696   0  [emu10k1]
NVdriver  818912  14  (autoclean)
8139too13152   1 

I'm a bit frustrated by the HOWTOs.  I've found many that show various steps 
(but not always the same steps), but none that really explain the reasons for 
all the steps -- so that means I don't really understand if a step applies to 
me.

I've also seen HOWTOs that show a bunch of lines to add to modules.conf.  
Again, I'm not sure if that applies to me or not.

I think I need soundcore, but I'm not clear what kernel config I should use to 
build it.  I'm not clear if I need ALSA or OSS in addition.

I'm really the kind of person that likes to understand the reasons behind the 
configurations -- which is why I picked Debain.

Anyone know of a good document that's up to date, and also explains the various 
components and how they fit together?  It would be a nice bonus if it helped me 
get my sound working, too. ;)  I would like to get sound working, but I'd like 
to come away learning something, too.

Then, once I get hardware sound working, it would be very helpful to know what 
I need for a mixer and CD/MP3 player to make use of it, too.

Oh, here's part of my kernel config
 
 fgrep SOUND /boot/config-2.4.17 | grep -v ^#
CONFIG_SOUND=y
CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1=m
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=m

Thanks very much,

Re: PDF

[John Griffiths]

At 06:36 PM 3/19/02 -0800, Jeff wrote:
>curtis, 2002-Mar-19 14:43 -0800:
>> What is the best tool for editing and creating pdf files?
>

I think you guys are going about this the hard way.

PDF is a display format, not a layout format.

to make pdfs just print your layout fomat to postscript and then use one of
a number of tools (pstopdf springs to mind, gomes in the gs package).

To edit you edit in the layout format, and then make a new pdf from that.

it's possilbe (but very painful) to edit pdf, but the format really wasn't
designed with that in mind.

John

Re: PDF

[ktb]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 02:43:56PM -0800, curtis wrote:
> What is the best tool for editing and creating pdf files?
> 

Here is a quick online prog -
http://www.ps2pdf.com/convert/convert.htm

Maybe not exactly what your looking for but...
kent

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Re: spammers are killing me

[Bruce Burhans]

- Original Message -
From: "martin f krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "debian users" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: spammers are killing me

it's either too late in the night or here's something going on.
IP=3D195.226.187.154, postfix 1.1.3-1 on debian woody, port 25,
mailhost for 27 domains, otherwise closed relay.

now i find this in the logs:

postfix/smtpd[6023]: connect from host074125.arnet.net.ar
[200.45.74.125]
postfix/smtpd[6023]: 6937F1673D:
client=host074125.arnet.net.ar[200.45.74.125]
postfix/cleanup[6024]: 6937F1673D:
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
postfix/qmgr[31979]: 6937F1673D: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=5880,
nrcpt=25 (queue active)
postfix/smtp[6038]: 6937F1673D: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
relay=mailin-02.mx.aol.com[64.12.136.121], delay=7, status=sent (250 OK)

try it, it's a closed relay. there *exists* tls client authentication
but that would be logged. how the heck can this happen???

i'm going slightly mad, it finally happened.
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Would you mind explaining what the above means
to us lesser mortals, Martin?
`We are not all Gurus, you know..

Bruce<+>
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/etc/passwd lookalike for nntpcache

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

I'm looking for a utility that will edit an AUTHINFO database so I can
create a user file for nntpcache here.

-- 
Baloo

RE: Cannot login using root password

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Panuganty, Ramesh wrote:

> Folks, I have a problem. I cannot login to my debian system using the
> root password but I can login using other users logins. Is there
> anything I can do to regain the ability to login as root other than
> rebuilding the server.Thanks for the help in advance.

Use either something like tomsrtbt to boot in, or reboot, and when you
get LILO, get a prompt and type "linux init=/bin/sh"  You'll have to
mount --remount=rw / to do any writing.  Clear the password for root in
/etc/passwd (or /etc/shadow if you use shadow passwords).

-- 
Baloo

Re: Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Karsten Heymann wrote:

>  - use no window manager
>  - start galeon in fullscreen mode from .xinitrc or .xsession
>  - map away the F11-Key with xmodmap
>  - maybe disable C-A-F[1-12]
>  - maybe disable C-A-Backspace
>  - disable most mime stuff to prevent the start of external viewers
>  - have galeon automatically restart if it exits

Additionally, to save some trouble, you could just lock the keyboard in
the kiosk so users only have mouse input.  This assumes, of course, that
you have no need for text input at this kiosk.

-- 
Baloo

Re: Network Card error

[Crispin Wellington]

No answers to your problems specifically, just some general advice. Try
not to compile your ethernet drivers into the kernel statically. It
causes headaches when you want to change an ethernet device or fiddle
with debug parameters. Compile a whole bunch of useful ones as modules.
Then you can load/unload them as needed without reboot/recompile. You
can also pass debug parameters to them on the insmod command line to
change module settings. Have a look in the Documentation/ directory of
the kernel tree for info on what parameters the different drivers take.

You can also use modconf to load/unload/set parameters of the modules.

Crispin

On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 08:56, Alan Poulton wrote:
> Hi list
> 
> I'm really new here, so if I left some information out that would help
> you help me, please don't hesitate to ask me for the extra info, and
> possibly how to obtain it.  This is sort of a two part problem. If the
> first part has no solution, then I need help with the second part.
> 
> I'm trying to set up Debian as a router/firewall and having problems
> with the NICs. I originally installed Potato, and have upgraded the
> kernel to 2.4.17, adding in support for the NIC drivers as I go. For
> hardware, I have:
> 
> eth0 is: SMC 1660t ISA, using driver ne2000, and connects to the
> Internet via DSL DHCP.
> eth1 was: DLink DFE-530TX, PCI, using driver Via Rhine.
> 
> When I would connect another PC (running Windows) to eth1, I would get
> errors:
> 
> eth1: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x9
> length 319 013f2810!
> eth1: Oversized Ethernet frame c13d2090 vs c13d2090
> 
> After each error, the "frame" number in "ifconfig eth1" is incremented.
> 
> Typically I would get the error as soon as I connect the Ethernet cable,
> or, on booting up the second PC, or sometimes just after pinging back
> and forth a bit.  Sometimes after the frame buffer error, the link is
> "dropped", so I have to type "ifdown eth1" then "ifup eth1" to
> restablish the link between the computers.  MTU on the Windows machine
> is set to 1500, but I've also tried 1428.
> 
> The above is the first problem.  Now for the second:
> 
> I thought that maybe the problem is the NIC used for eth1 (Dlink). So I
> swapped it with an SMC 1211TX (PCI) from another computer, and I'm now
> having problems getting Linux to boot with the drivers installed.
> 
> I compiled in the driver for RTL8139, and have tried both regular and
> support for older 8129 cards.
> 
> When I can boot, with the RTL8139 not compiled in, I type lspci, I get:
> "00:13.0 Ethernet controller Accton Technology Corporation SMC-1211TX
> (rev 10)"
> 
> When I compile in support for RTL8139, the boot process hangs with "PCI:
> Setting latency timer of device 00:13.0 to 64"
> 
> And that's where I stand.. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
> 
> -- 
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> Ever stop to think and then forget to start again?
> 
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Re: Network Card error

[Ron Johnson]

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 18:56, Alan Poulton wrote:
> Hi list
> 
> I'm really new here, so if I left some information out that would help
> you help me, please don't hesitate to ask me for the extra info, and
> possibly how to obtain it.  This is sort of a two part problem. If the
> first part has no solution, then I need help with the second part.
> 
> I'm trying to set up Debian as a router/firewall and having problems
> with the NICs. I originally installed Potato, and have upgraded the
> kernel to 2.4.17, adding in support for the NIC drivers as I go. For
> hardware, I have:
> 
> eth0 is: SMC 1660t ISA, using driver ne2000, and connects to the
> Internet via DSL DHCP.
> eth1 was: DLink DFE-530TX, PCI, using driver Via Rhine.
> 
> When I would connect another PC (running Windows) to eth1, I would get
> errors:

Well, maybe that is your problem.  Are you using the proper
cable for direct connections: a cross-over cable?

The best method is to get a cheap 5-port hub or switch.  $50
is the most you should pay.  Here, straight-thru cables are
used.  These are by far the most common type of cable.

(The benefit is that now you can easily add 3 more PCs at
any time.)

> eth1: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x9
> length 319 013f2810!
> eth1: Oversized Ethernet frame c13d2090 vs c13d2090
> 
> After each error, the "frame" number in "ifconfig eth1" is incremented.
> 
> Typically I would get the error as soon as I connect the Ethernet cable,
> or, on booting up the second PC, or sometimes just after pinging back
> and forth a bit.  Sometimes after the frame buffer error, the link is
> "dropped", so I have to type "ifdown eth1" then "ifup eth1" to
> restablish the link between the computers.  MTU on the Windows machine
> is set to 1500, but I've also tried 1428.
> 
> The above is the first problem.  Now for the second:
> 
> I thought that maybe the problem is the NIC used for eth1 (Dlink). So I
> swapped it with an SMC 1211TX (PCI) from another computer, and I'm now
> having problems getting Linux to boot with the drivers installed.
> 
> I compiled in the driver for RTL8139, and have tried both regular and
> support for older 8129 cards.
> 
> When I can boot, with the RTL8139 not compiled in, I type lspci, I get:
> "00:13.0 Ethernet controller Accton Technology Corporation SMC-1211TX
> (rev 10)"
> 
> When I compile in support for RTL8139, the boot process hangs with "PCI:
> Setting latency timer of device 00:13.0 to 64"
> 
> And that's where I stand.. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: backing up /etc

[Jeff]

Shri Shrikumar, 2002-Mar-19 23:26 -:
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> Simple question - is there a way to backup merely the files in /etc that
> have been modified.
> 
> Only a dozen or so config files have been modified and it seems a bit of
> a waste to backup around 5Mb of config files when the ones that have
> been modified could easily fit on a floppy along with a copy of
> dpkg --get-selections.

Depends on what you're using.  I use TAR in various scripts to 
backup my data.  Check out "--update".

If you use RSYNC, which I also use, check out "--update" and 
"--delete".

> The other reason is what happens if one of the packges (whose config I
> havent touched) has a new standard config file perhaps with better
> security - I would then be overwriting the new one.
> 
> How does apt figure out when config files have been modified before
> asking whether it should install the package maintainers version or keep
> the current one.

When you upgrade packages, a message will show during the setup
phase to notify you of any configuration structure changes that
have been made.  The maintainers are also good about putting in the
scripting to convert existing configs over to the new structure
during this phase as well.  Sometimes a package will install the
maintainers versions of config files during the upgrade, but in
this case you are always given the choice to install or not, and
the maintainers versions are placed with the package docs for
reference.

jc

-- 
Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer
Diggin' Debian  Admin and User

Re: uw-imap to courier-imap

[Matthew Daubenspeck]

I just did this very thing on one of my boxes. If you check out some of the 
exim FAQ's, it has exact examples of how to change to maildir format.


http://www.exim.org/FAQ.html

If you can't find any answers here, let me know and I can help you through 
it...


At 08:03 PM 3/19/2002, you wrote:

Hello,

I whish to move from uw-imap to courier-imap, i've read about it's better
performance using maildirs etc and it all sounds good. although, i'm a bit
unsure about the amounts of work involved in converting...

I read in a previous thread regarding changing Exim to Sendmail that
Debian was clever enough to realise that you whished to change MTA and
replaced Exim with Sendmail when doing a normal apt-get install. Would
Debian in a similar way read my mind in this case as well and help me
convert to courier-imap instead?

Will there be any problems converting my existing mail into this maildir
format? how is it done in the best way? and what about procmail filters?
Will there be any other problems?

My current config includes: exim, fetchmail, procmail and uw-imap.

any thoughts would be of interest... :)

Cups question

[Tib]

I tried printing using the smbprint script and it kindof worked. Kindof 
meaning that it started a print job on my windows2k box and apparently fed 
it no data, so the printer warmed up and processed an empty job.

Anyways, I'm looking into cups but I'm not sure which package to get for 
how I'm setup.

Here's the layout: Windows 2000 ASE has a Lexmark Z32 inkjet printer 
attached to it. The win2k box is also sharing that printer (hence the 
attempt at smbprint). linux box is attached to the network with the win2k 
box.

Question 1: Will cups be able to print to through win2k to that printer? 
(will it do it natively or does the win2k box need additional 
software/drivers put on it)

Question 2: If #1 is 'yes' in any way, which cups package do I grab? 


Tib

Re: PDF

[Jeff]

curtis, 2002-Mar-19 14:43 -0800:
> What is the best tool for editing and creating pdf files?

I've been wondering how to do this myself for awhile, but haven't
had the "need" yet to really investigate.  So, I haven't done
this before.  However, a quick look around found these:

In Debian Woody:

pstoedit
Description: PostScript and PDF files to editable vector graphics
converter.  pstoedit converts Postscript and PDF files to various
editable vector graphic formats including tgif, xfig, PDF graphics,
gnuplot format, idraw, MetaPost, GNU Metafile, PIC, Kontour and
flattened PostScript.

python-reportlab
Description: ReportLab library to create PDF documents using
Python ReportLab is a library that lets you directly create 
documents in Adobe's Portable Document Format (PDF) using the 
Python programming language.

ReportLab library creates PDF based on graphics commands without 
intervening steps. It's therefore extremely fast, and flexible 
(since you're using a full-blown programming language).

Sample use cases are:
 * Dynamic PDF generation on the web
 * High-volume corporate reporting and database
 * publishing
 * As embeddable print engine for other
 * applications, including a 'report language' so that users can
   customize their own reports.
 * As 'build system' for complex
 * documents with charts, tables and text such as management 
   accounts, statistical reports and scientific papers
 * from XML to PDF in one step


So, I figure you could use pstoedit convert a pdf, and create
documents in XML and use python to create a pdf from it.

I'm sure someone else that's doing this very thing will chime
in...I hope!   :-)

jc

-- 
Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer
Diggin' Debian  Admin and User

Re: OT: Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material

[Ron Johnson]

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 17:24, Tom Cook wrote:
> "Michael P. Soulier" wrote:
> > 
> > On 19/03/02 Casper Labuschagne did speaketh:
> > 
> > > May I point at the Linux community (for the greater part at least) is
> > > racist, bigotted and prejudiced per se.  To illustrate my point observe 
> > > the
> > > reaction of extreme disgust and prejudice eminating from the average Linux
> > > user when confronted by the following terminology:
> > >
> > > Windows; Microsoft; Bill Gates; Windows 95; Microsoft Office; Exchange;
> > > Microsoft Internet Information Server; Windows XP; DOS; OS/2; .NET; Visual

OS/2   That is one of _IBM_'s great products (even though the
1.x series started out jointly written with MSFT).

Too bad the the OS/2 & linux system paradigms are so different.
Presentation Manager _rocks_.  Shows how powerful an Object 
Environment can be...

> > > Basic ...
> > 
> > Not quite Casper. Bigotry is a hatred of a race of people (interesting
> > that we're not just all "human", bigotry is built into the language it would
> > seem) because they are different. Hating someone or something because it's
> > different is moronic. We dislike Microsoft because they suck, not because
> > they're different. ;-)
> 
> Well, they are different, but our dislike is based on the merits of the
> software, not some blind belief that we are superior.

>From what I've heard, there is a larger genetic difference among
species of monkeys than there are between the human races.

Contrast that with how different Linux and NT (and OS/2) are.
OS/2 and NT have similar concepts, yet OS/2 is great (see above)
and NT sucks.  (That, and the fact that MSFT is an unrepentant
criminal monopolist.)

_That_ is the reason so many people have strong reactions against
MSFT...

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|  and make them into big productions."  |
| Pitr Dubovitch |
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Installing Debian

[John Lynch]

Hello everyone

I just read the Debian installation manual. And most of it went over my 
head. I have never used a Linux OS before, and I don't know THAT much about 
computers, however I am learning. That's the reason i want Debian so I can 
learn even more, well that and it's free and never crashes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
for all those times he lost parts of his school work just last weekened 
cause it continually crashed*


So, I am asking if someone wouldn't mind giving me EASY to understand 
instructions, in "easy english" as someone I know always says.


I'm going to type up what I want my computer to eventually be able to do, 
and then I'll type up the LIMITED amount of the instructions I have to 
follow that I actually understood.


Thankyou for everyone who is willing to help.
I am about to read ANOTHER installation manual from www.linuxdocs.com (or 
something like that URL, I have it bookmarked at my house).


Want My computer To Be Able To Do Wish List:

* I want it to have a dual boot system with Debian and Windows XP.
* I want Windows XP to be the default OS so all my parents have to do to 
make the computer work is hit the power button and wait for it to load up 
(they know even less about computers then me!!!).
* I want to be able to go onto the internet in both Windows XP and Debian (I 
have cable so I'm hooked onto the net 24/7, except when I turn off my 
computer or Telstra is down)
* I want to be able to access files from my Windows partition when I'm in 
Linux, and vice verca (my understanding is I must partition my harddrive to 
have a dual boot system).
* I want to be able to access files from my other computer which is 
networked to the one I am going to run Debian on (I only have the 2 
computer's networked, the other computer currently runs Windows 98 and has a 
very small harddrive of 6gig!!).
* I want to be able to run Debian on my computer that runs Windows 98, but 
only have it installed on my other Computer which runs Windows XP, so no 
memory is taken up on my Windows 98 computer (I don't know if this is 
possible, from what I read in the installation manual it is possible, 
however this would just be a benefit, if it is MUCH too difficult to do then 
I won't set it up like this, I might in the future when I know more about 
computers).
* I don't want to loose ANYTHING that is on my computer, without the need of 
backing it up or else I'm a dead man (I will be backing it up regardless, 
but that is for worst case scenario).
* I also want to be able to run writing programs, databases, etc, e-mail 
programs, internet browser programs and coding programs (such as C++, perl, 
my understanding is they come free with Debian. I only know JavaScript, HTML 
and Cascading Style Sheets, I dont count the last 2 as languages, but I want 
to learn more).
* Create mutiple users (again this isn't neccessary, just in case someone in 
my family ever wants to use Debian which I doubt)
* Set a password that you have to type in to login (I am not sure about this 
though because if for some reason my dad or mum go into Debian and don't 
know the password, will this cause the entire thing to not work, or will it 
just prevent them from access to certain folders, or will it just restart 
the computer using Windows XP? again this isn't neccessary, but this is a 
wish list)



*thinks* I think that's all I want my computer to do. I know it's a lot but 
most of those things (albeit the Debian specific things) it can already do 
in Windows XP.



NOW here's my understanding of how to get all of those things done, 
unfortunately this will be shorter then my wish list.




Installing Debian Steps:

* Defrag the computer (so everything gets all grouped together instead of 
spread out, this is neccessary so nothing is lost when u partition the 
harddrive).


* Partition the harddrive into 3 seperate parts (1 for Windows XP and the 
bulk of the memory, 1 for the Debian OS and 1 for the files. I am not sure 
where programs, such as Debians version of Word, would go in all this, I 
also don't know what programs to use that are free and work in Windows XP).


* Download Debian (I am not sure if there is an easy to download copy of 
Debian for newbies like me or not. If there isn't I have absolutely no idea 
which files to download or how to set them up. I don't want to have to buy 
the CDs).


* Install Debian through a medium of your choice (now is the really 
confusing part, I can do it via a CD of the files I burn into it, which 
sounds the hardest. Or I can do it via a floppy, which they kept telling me 
not to do. Or I can do it from the harddrive, I don't know where I would put 
it, whether in the Windows XP partition or one of the Debian partitions. Or 
through my other computer that runs Windows 98. I also have no idea how I 
would open up the debian installation program).


* Create the dual boot system at some stage somehow with a delay of 3 
seconds before it starts up Windows XP so I can make it run 

Re: Help with compiling X 4.2.0

[Crispin Wellington]

On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 06:20, Matt Jones wrote:
> I am trying to compile X so that I can use my Geforce2 video card.
> I am running debian 2.2r2 and did a clean install yesterday.
> I put the source code on the drive and began compiling. The make World 
> worked fine, but when I did make Install I recieved the following errors...
> 
> 
> "...
> rm -f gunzip.o
> gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce  -ansi -pedantic -Wall -Wpointer-arith  
> -I../../../include/fonts -I../include -I../../../programs/Xserver/include 
>   
>  -I../../../include  -I../../.. -I../../../exports/include   -Dlinux 
> -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE 
> -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE  -D_GNU_SOURCE   -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO   
> -DFONTDIRATTRIB -DBUILD_SPEEDO -DBUILD_TYPE1 -DBUILD_CID
> -DBUILD_FREETYPE  
> -DFONT_ENCODINGS_DIRECTORY=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/encodings.dir\"
>  
>-DX_GZIP_FONT_COMPRESSION   gunzip.c
> gunzip.c:9: zlib.h: No such file or directory
> make[4]: *** [gunzip.o] Error 1
> make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/matt/xc/lib/font/fontfile'
> make[3]: *** [fontfile] Error 2
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/matt/xc/lib/font'
> make[2]: *** [install] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/matt/xc/lib'
> make[1]: *** [install] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/matt/xc'
> make: *** [install] Error 2
> "
> 
> How can I fix this error, or is it an error I can fix?
> Does anyone know what this means?

Install the zlib dev package.

apt-get install zlib1g-dev

All those different dev packages contain the header files (.h) for
developing software (or compiling) for the various libraries.

Kind Regards

Crispin Wellington

Re: backing up /etc

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya

assuming oyu have a different disk   mounted as /mnt/backup
( never backup important data to the same hard disk )

#
# backup of last 7 days
#
# adjust days to when the last time you did your manual backups
#
days=7
ymd=(date +20%y.%m.%d)
#
mount /dev/hd /mnt/backup
find /etc -mtime -$days -print |tar zcvf/mnt/backup/etc.$ymd.$days.tgz -T -
umount /mnt/backup

scriptize and "cron-ize" the above... :-)

c ya
alvin
http:.//www.Linux-Backup.net ...


On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Shri Shrikumar wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> 
> Simple question - is there a way to backup merely the files in /etc that
> have been modified.
> 
> Only a dozen or so config files have been modified and it seems a bit of
> a waste to backup around 5Mb of config files when the ones that have
> been modified could easily fit on a floppy along with a copy of
> dpkg --get-selections.
> 
> The other reason is what happens if one of the packges (whose config I
> havent touched) has a new standard config file perhaps with better
> security - I would then be overwriting the new one.
> 
> How does apt figure out when config files have been modified before
> asking whether it should install the package maintainers version or keep
> the current one.
> 
> I hope this makes sense and thank you for your time.
> 

Re: Help with compiling X 4.2.0

[Bill Triplett]

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 17:20, Matt Jones wrote:
> I am trying to compile X so that I can use my Geforce2 video card.
> I am running debian 2.2r2 and did a clean install yesterday.
> I put the source code on the drive and began compiling. The make World 
> worked fine, but when I did make Install I recieved the following errors...
> 
> "...
> rm -f gunzip.o
> gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce  -ansi -pedantic -Wall -Wpointer-arith  
> -I../../../include/fonts -I../include -I../../../programs/Xserver/include 
>   
>  -I../../../include  -I../../.. -I../../../exports/include   -Dlinux 
> -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE 
> -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE  -D_GNU_SOURCE   -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO   
> -DFONTDIRATTRIB -DBUILD_SPEEDO -DBUILD_TYPE1 -DBUILD_CID
> -DBUILD_FREETYPE  
> -DFONT_ENCODINGS_DIRECTORY=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/encodings.dir\"
>  
>-DX_GZIP_FONT_COMPRESSION   gunzip.c
> gunzip.c:9: zlib.h: No such file or directory
> 
> How can I fix this error, or is it an error I can fix?
> Does anyone know what this means?

The zlib.h file is missing.
[btt]$ dpkg -S zlib.h
xlibs-dev: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/lbxzlib.h
zlib1g-dev: /usr/include/zlib.h
libbz2-dev: /usr/include/bzlib.h

Try installing the zlib1g-dev package (on Woody it is zlib1g-dev).

Good luck...
Bill

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RE: Lynx no longer access debian.org

[Wren, Christopher]

Hi 

I thought I would check it our as I am in the uk.. lynx www.debian.org
worked fine for me.  You might want to try nslookup or dig and see that it
is pointing to the same ip.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ nslookup www.debian.org
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

Name:www.debian.org
Address:  198.186.203.20

Cheers

Chris



-Original Message-
From: Anthony Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 March 2002 13:33
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Lynx no longer access debian.org


For the last couple of days I can no longer reach www.debian.org via
Lynx. I get a 302 page saying that it has moved , with a link, but
it doesn't work. Accessing the site via mozilla works seamlessly.

Anyone else seen this?

AC


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spammers are killing me

[martin f krafft]

it's either too late in the night or here's something going on.
IP=3D195.226.187.154, postfix 1.1.3-1 on debian woody, port 25,
mailhost for 27 domains, otherwise closed relay.

now i find this in the logs:

postfix/smtpd[6023]: connect from host074125.arnet.net.ar [200.45.74.125]
postfix/smtpd[6023]: 6937F1673D: client=host074125.arnet.net.ar[200.45.74.125]  
postfix/cleanup[6024]: 6937F1673D: message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
postfix/qmgr[31979]: 6937F1673D: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=5880, nrcpt=25 
(queue active)
postfix/smtp[6038]: 6937F1673D: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
relay=mailin-02.mx.aol.com[64.12.136.121], delay=7, status=sent (250 OK)

try it, it's a closed relay. there *exists* tls client authentication
but that would be logged. how the heck can this happen???

i'm going slightly mad, it finally happened.

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Re: Unresolved Symbols in .../binfmt_aout.o

[Ben Collins]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 05:17:43PM -0500, Michael Marziani wrote:
> Brand new 2.2r5 install.  I get this error several times on bootup, and
> if I do a depmod -e, I get:
> 
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19/fs/binfmt_aout.o
> depmod: do_truncate

Ignore it. I doubt you are using the aout binary format (nothing in
Debian potato does, and no thirdpart software that I know of does
either).

It doesn't hurt a thing. You can always "rm -f 
/lib/modules/2.2.19/fs/binfmt_aout.o"
if it bothers you though.

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Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* Gustavo Noronha Silva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:33:10 -0600
> Dimitri Maziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> > Why do you want to advocate running a beta OS on production systems?
> > You want your sysadmin to hate you?
> what beta OS did he mention?

I'll repeat this on-list: stable is way too old for most real-life
uses, esp. as workstation. Testing is what commonly referred to as
"beta". So, Debian is beta until Woody gets released (if ever).

No, it doesn't matter that Debian testing is more stable than others'
releases[0]. What matters is that when things go wrong, management
will come to him and ask why he persuaded everyone to install a beta
OS when they were happily using SuSE/RH before without any problems
(which isn't necessarily true, but that's what they'll say).

[0] I could argue about that, too: why does my KDE (woody) crash 
every time I try to log out, while my co-worker's KDE (seawolf) does
not (on identical hardware), for one example? Maybe it's because I
spent much more time setting it up than he did?

Dima
-- 
You think Oedipus had a problem -- Adam was Eve's mother.-- fortune

Re: Trident display card

[Ryan Kirkpatrick]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:

> A friend has a display card identified by lspci as:
> 
> 00:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems TGUI 9660/968x/968x 
> (rev d3)
> 
> I tried the xfree4 "trident" driver, but it didn't display quite right.
> (The display was ... um, "fragmented", though the mouse cursor moved
> fine, iirc.)

I was testing about ten of these cards (Trident 966x), and one of
them had a similar "fragmented" display. Almost as if the upper left hand
quarter of the screen was duplicated in the other four quarters. Very
strange. I was using XF86 3.3.6 (potato version), and used the same
configuration file in testing all the cards, only one gave this strange
behavior, and all the cards were identical.

> Any ideas about this card? I guess I could also try 3.3.6. And what
> XFree4 driver is the "general SVGA" one, if there is one? I saw "VGA",
> which also gave some trouble (again: iirc), is "VGA" the generic driver?

Does this card work correctly under say, M$ Windows? If not, or
not tested with it, I would suspect that the card is bad. That is what I
concluded in my case. 
Also, unless XF4 greatly improved the the trident driver from
3.3.6, I would just as soon consider the card bad and replace it. Under
3.3.6 those cards were slow as mud, while a S3Trio64 (same vintage) was
many times faster. 
Hope this is of help. TTYL.

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wmsetbg and display

[Lance Hoffmeyer]

I am trying to run wmsetbg from a console while X is running but I keep getting
"could not open display errors".
 
 
wmsetbg -display localhost:0.0 -e image.gif -w 2
wmsetbg -display localhost:0   -e image.gif -w 2
 

What am I doing wrong?


Lance
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Re: Help with compiling X 4.2.0

[Jean-Marc V. Liotier]

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 23:20, Matt Jones wrote:
> gunzip.c:9: zlib.h: No such file or directory

apt-get install zlib1g-dev



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galeon (Version: 1.2.0-0.1 from unstable) crashes on startup

[Jorge Santos]

As the subject states, with the following message:

IDN support disabled
escape UTF-8 enabled

** ERROR **: Couldn't create the factory!
aborting...
zsh: 20701 abort (core dumped)  galeon

Any ideas?

Regards,

Jorge Santos

uw-imap to courier-imap

[Rikard Florin]

Hello,

I whish to move from uw-imap to courier-imap, i've read about it's better
performance using maildirs etc and it all sounds good. although, i'm a bit
unsure about the amounts of work involved in converting...

I read in a previous thread regarding changing Exim to Sendmail that
Debian was clever enough to realise that you whished to change MTA and
replaced Exim with Sendmail when doing a normal apt-get install. Would
Debian in a similar way read my mind in this case as well and help me
convert to courier-imap instead?

Will there be any problems converting my existing mail into this maildir
format? how is it done in the best way? and what about procmail filters?
Will there be any other problems?

My current config includes: exim, fetchmail, procmail and uw-imap.

any thoughts would be of interest... :)

regards,

/rikard

Network Card error

[Alan Poulton]

Hi list

I'm really new here, so if I left some information out that would help
you help me, please don't hesitate to ask me for the extra info, and
possibly how to obtain it.  This is sort of a two part problem. If the
first part has no solution, then I need help with the second part.

I'm trying to set up Debian as a router/firewall and having problems
with the NICs. I originally installed Potato, and have upgraded the
kernel to 2.4.17, adding in support for the NIC drivers as I go. For
hardware, I have:

eth0 is: SMC 1660t ISA, using driver ne2000, and connects to the
Internet via DSL DHCP.
eth1 was: DLink DFE-530TX, PCI, using driver Via Rhine.

When I would connect another PC (running Windows) to eth1, I would get
errors:

eth1: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x9
length 319 013f2810!
eth1: Oversized Ethernet frame c13d2090 vs c13d2090

After each error, the "frame" number in "ifconfig eth1" is incremented.

Typically I would get the error as soon as I connect the Ethernet cable,
or, on booting up the second PC, or sometimes just after pinging back
and forth a bit.  Sometimes after the frame buffer error, the link is
"dropped", so I have to type "ifdown eth1" then "ifup eth1" to
restablish the link between the computers.  MTU on the Windows machine
is set to 1500, but I've also tried 1428.

The above is the first problem.  Now for the second:

I thought that maybe the problem is the NIC used for eth1 (Dlink). So I
swapped it with an SMC 1211TX (PCI) from another computer, and I'm now
having problems getting Linux to boot with the drivers installed.

I compiled in the driver for RTL8139, and have tried both regular and
support for older 8129 cards.

When I can boot, with the RTL8139 not compiled in, I type lspci, I get:
"00:13.0 Ethernet controller Accton Technology Corporation SMC-1211TX
(rev 10)"

When I compile in support for RTL8139, the boot process hangs with "PCI:
Setting latency timer of device 00:13.0 to 64"

And that's where I stand.. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: confused re:server error

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 07:50:00PM +, john gennard wrote:
> On 16th March I posted a request for help on the subject of 'server 
> error'. I have received no reply (or copy of my email this is 
> unusual in my experience on this list. Of course I have no right to 
> expect to be helped, but I do not recollect an occasion when I have 
> not been.
> 
> I decided to make a further search of the archives to see if I could
> find any pointers. Within minutes, I found my original question and 
> two very prompt responses.

Many people don't routinely cc the poster of a question unless asked.
The convention on most Debian lists is to reply to the list; if you want
copies by private mail, ask for them and/or set the Mail-Followup-To:
header.

Is that what you mean - you aren't subscribed to debian-user and were
surprised not to get copies of replies by private mail?

(I've assumed from your mail that you want a copy in this case, of
course.)

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tomcat

[Marcelo da Silva Leal]

Hello,
I was reading documentation about tomcat, and one worker (tomcat instance) for 
application... but i´m confusing.
I need to make some scripts, and one of them, is for to add one more context 
(application). The question is: I don´t know what files should i edit!
mod_jk.conf, worker.properties, server.xml, httpd.conf...
i wanna one httpd server running and forwarding requests for virtual hosts, in 
the same machine, and each applicantion one devel independent environment 
(ports 8007, 8008, 8009, etc...). Then, when one developer would want to add 
one more context, or change one old one, he do not have restart the whole 
server...
do you understand me ? (i´m brazilian, sorry...)
one server, one worker for application, any virtual hosts...
how can i do this job???

thanks!!


 

Re: changed network config

[Yang Shouxun]

Panuganty, Ramesh wrote:
> What files did you change?
> 
> /etc/network/interfaces or
>  /etc/pcmcia/network.opts 
> 
> Also look at your /etc/modules

Thanks very much to Ramesh, Troy and others responding. I changed
/etc/netowrk/interfaces but /etc/pcmcia/network.opts still has the old
information.

I certainly forgot I did put information there. A good lesson for me to
repeat the same lesson in multiple places and fail to synchronize.

Re: bash scripting question (variables and spaces)

[Brett Parker]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:35:53PM +0100, Karsten Heymann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have once again come upon bash problem I can't solve. I'm writing a
> little bash frontend and one of the programs expects a option that includes
> spaces and is composed from two other shell var's. Example:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> A="Hello"
> B="Karsten"
> C=$A $B 
> someprog --greeting $C
  ^^
  this is the problem... try...
  someprog --greeting "$C"

That should work, I think.

Cheers,

Brett



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Re: Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[Pete Harlan]

You can launch your startup app from /etc/inittab.  I used to work for
a company that installed kiosks, and this is how we did it.  We ran
our own app, not a browser, and our X needs were very minimal.  No
window manager, no windows except our one, no keyboard, no mouse
(touchscreen only), etc.  Just run X or startx or whatever right out
of inittab, giving the app as the startup argument.

The default runlevel put us in kiosk mode.  If we wanted a more normal
box, for maintenance or development, we'd switch runlevels.  It worked
very well.

Best of luck,

--Pete


On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 10:19:44PM +0100, Karsten Heymann wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:41:35AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> > Which window manager will give me the ability to size/move/close/etc 
> > windows, but without the ability to start other programs, etc. I want a 
> > kiosk style setup, on a low-memory machine. ICEWM has that menu at the 
> > bottom with the "Start" menu, so it's unsuitable. I tried twm, but I 
> > have to manually place the default app (Galeon) when it starts or when a 
> > new window is opened by the web site being visited, and I would prefer 
> > the window to just take the entire screen or at least not require manual 
> > placement.
> > 
> > Any suggestions?
> 
> I suggest (all untested):
> 
>  - use no window manager
>  - start galeon in fullscreen mode from .xinitrc or .xsession
>  - map away the F11-Key with xmodmap
>  - maybe disable C-A-F[1-12]
>  - maybe disable C-A-Backspace
>  - disable most mime stuff to prevent the start of external viewers
>  - have galeon automatically restart if it exits
> 
> That should keep the system quite closed. As I didn't test that,
> suggestions are welcome!
> 
> Greets,
> 
> Karsten

Re: Problems installing gnucash

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 03:20:36PM -0500, stan wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 10:23:52AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 06:50:49AM -0500, stan wrote:
> > > dpkg: error processing
> > > /var/cache/apt/archives/guile1.3_1%3a1.3.4-2_i386.deb (--unpack):
> > >  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/guile-wm-menu-launch', which is also in
> > >  package guile-common
> > >  dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> > >  Unpacking libguile6-slib (from .../libguile6-slib_1%3a1.3.4-2_i386.deb)
> > >  ...
> > >  Unpacking gnucash (from .../gnucash_1.3.4-3_i386.deb) ...
> > 
> > You need to get gnucash 1.6.6-1 from unstable, not 1.3.4-3 from stable.
> > It hasn't made it into testing yet for a variety of reasons.
> 
> Cool, but since dslect doesn't do that automaticly (and I thought it would
> because I have dman's magic incation in /etc/apt for using unstable with
> stable), then how's the best way to do this?

dselect doesn't know about apt pinning. Either install it with apt-get,
or download and install the .debs manually.

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Re: changed network config

[Jeff]

Yang Shouxun, 2002-Mar-19 13:48 +0800:
> Dear Debian Users,
> 
> I'm using Debian GNU/Linux unstable. Recently I move to a new place and 
> the ethernet configuration changed as a result. I manually edited all 
> the files.
> 
> It works fine except that each time when pcmcia service starts, the IP 
> address, network mask and other things are of the old version. I have to 
> restart the networking service by "/etc/init.d/networking restart" and 
> then eth0 uses the new configuration.
> 
> Does anybody know what I miss so that I can put it right, save me from 
> manually restarting networking service each time I reboot and want to 
> connect to the network?

If you mean that you have static IP configurations for each
network you work on, schemes will help here.  In the
/etc/pcmcia/network.opts file, you can set different
configurations and name them.  Then, when you go to a different
network, change the scheme with

# cartctl scheme work  (where 'work' is the name of a scheme)

and the config will change.

The section for the schemes will look like:

case "$ADDRESS" in
auto,*,*,*)
IF_PORT="auto"
# Use /sbin/pump for BOOTP/DHCP? [y/n]
DHCP="y"
;;
work,*,*,*)
IF_PORT="auto"
IPADDR="192.168.0.100"
NETMASK="255.255.255.0"
NETWORK="192.168.0.0"
GATEWAY="192.168.0.1"
DOMAIN=
SEARCH=
NAMESERVER=
;;
esac

I'm not positive the last 3 entries above are accurate.

jc

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Diggin' Debian  Admin and User

Re: bash scripting question (variables and spaces)

[Angus D Madden]

Karsten Heymann, Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:35:53PM +0100: 
> Hi,
> 
> I have once again come upon bash problem I can't solve. I'm writing a
> little bash frontend and one of the programs expects a option that includes
> spaces and is composed from two other shell var's. Example:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> A="Hello"
> B="Karsten"
> C=$A $B 
> someprog --greeting $C
> 
> Whatever I do now, --greeting receices only the "Hello" part. I've
> tried some other variants too:
> 
> C="$A $B"
> C=\"$A $a\B"
> C='$A $B'
> C=$A\ $B
> C=`echo $A $B`
> 
> What works is 
> someprog --greeting "Hello Karsten"
> but that's no solution.
> 

Try this:

#!/bin/bash
A="Hello"
B="World"
C="$A $B"

someprog --greeting "$C"


That should do it for you.

g



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backing up /etc

[Shri Shrikumar]

Hi All,


Simple question - is there a way to backup merely the files in /etc that
have been modified.

Only a dozen or so config files have been modified and it seems a bit of
a waste to backup around 5Mb of config files when the ones that have
been modified could easily fit on a floppy along with a copy of
dpkg --get-selections.

The other reason is what happens if one of the packges (whose config I
havent touched) has a new standard config file perhaps with better
security - I would then be overwriting the new one.

How does apt figure out when config files have been modified before
asking whether it should install the package maintainers version or keep
the current one.

I hope this makes sense and thank you for your time.


Regards,



Shri


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Re: OT: Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material

[Tom Cook]

"Michael P. Soulier" wrote:
> 
> On 19/03/02 Casper Labuschagne did speaketh:
> 
> > May I point at the Linux community (for the greater part at least) is
> > racist, bigotted and prejudiced per se.  To illustrate my point observe the
> > reaction of extreme disgust and prejudice eminating from the average Linux
> > user when confronted by the following terminology:
> >
> > Windows; Microsoft; Bill Gates; Windows 95; Microsoft Office; Exchange;
> > Microsoft Internet Information Server; Windows XP; DOS; OS/2; .NET; Visual
> > Basic ...
> 
> Not quite Casper. Bigotry is a hatred of a race of people (interesting
> that we're not just all "human", bigotry is built into the language it would
> seem) because they are different. Hating someone or something because it's
> different is moronic. We dislike Microsoft because they suck, not because
> they're different. ;-)

Well, they are different, but our dislike is based on the merits of the
software, not some blind belief that we are superior.

Tom

Re: Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:22:02 -0600
ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:41:35AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> > Which window manager will give me the ability to size/move/close/etc 
> > windows, but without the ability to start other programs, etc. I want a 
> > kiosk style setup, on a low-memory machine. ICEWM has that menu at the 
> > bottom with the "Start" menu, so it's unsuitable. I tried twm, but I 
you can disable that menu on icewm... install icepref and configure it
for your needs

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Re: bash scripting question (variables and spaces)

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:35:53 +0100
Karsten Heymann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have once again come upon bash problem I can't solve. I'm writing a
> little bash frontend and one of the programs expects a option that includes
> spaces and is composed from two other shell var's. Example:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> A="Hello"
> B="Karsten"
> C=$A $B 
> someprog --greeting $C
try someprog --greeting "$C", that should work... indeed, I think
you should do:

C="$A $B"

also

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RE: checkpoint 4.1 on debian

[Ronneil Camara]

Yup, next time guys, I will make it friendlier

-> -Original Message-
-> From: martin f krafft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:26 AM
-> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
-> Subject: Re: checkpoint 4.1 on debian
-> 
-> 
-> also sprach Ronneil Camara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
-> [2002.03.19.1611 +0100]:
-> > has anyone installed checkpoint on debian? procedures please.
-> 
-> convert the rpm with alien and install. checkpoint only supports
-> 2.2.14 kernels, so have fun running an insecure kernel. nevertheless:
-> i've had success with 2.2.20.
-> 
-> btw: in the future it would help if you'd phrase your emails a little
-> friendlier. i am only helping now because i feel that very little
-> people know this, but i wasn't very motivated by the tone of your
-> post. this isn't a flame, just a note!
-> 
-> -- 
-> martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
->   \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->   
-> "i did not know. but i sensed it as truth."
->   
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-> 

Performing new sets on HDs ... 'hdparm'

[HostMaster of NullZone]

Hi there,

 i think its a trivial question for your all but im a bit new at Linux.

 How can i know if i can set better parametres with 'hdparm' utility on my 
ide drivers?
 How can i know if one of my mainboards support it? I know it support 
UDMA33 (just a PII 400).


and .. at least ..., may any tell me the exactly parametres to set ata 33 
to a ide drive?

I dont wanna to lost any data...

hmm btw, must i set special values over /dev/hdX or i must too over 
/dev/mdX if u have any raid softs?


U all can see im a bit lost...

Thanks by advance

Re: Problems installing gnucash

[stan]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 10:23:52AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 06:50:49AM -0500, stan wrote:
> > I tried to add gnucash this morning to my woody (with a few unstable bits)
> > machine. But I ran inot this:
> > 
> > Unpacking guile1.3 (from .../guile1.3_1%3a1.3.4-2_i386.deb) ...
> 
> guile1.3 is obsolete, and not part of woody. You seem to have got it
> from stable.
> 
> > dpkg: error processing
> > /var/cache/apt/archives/guile1.3_1%3a1.3.4-2_i386.deb (--unpack):
> >  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/guile-wm-menu-launch', which is also in
> >  package guile-common
> >  dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> >  Unpacking libguile6-slib (from .../libguile6-slib_1%3a1.3.4-2_i386.deb)
> >  ...
> >  Unpacking gnucash (from .../gnucash_1.3.4-3_i386.deb) ...
> 
> You need to get gnucash 1.6.6-1 from unstable, not 1.3.4-3 from stable.
> It hasn't made it into testing yet for a variety of reasons.
> 

Hmm, I thogut I replied to this several hous ago, but still have to see it
appera, sorry if this is a repeat.

I've got dman's magic incatation in /etc/apt, that _I thought_ was supposed
make dselect check tings in this oreder testing -> unstable -> stable.

Obviously in this case that did not happen.

Her's my /etc/apt/preferences file:


Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 500

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 95

Given thsi, wgat can I do to install the version of gnucash you
are recomending?

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Me too --Re: X doesn't redisplay on return from console

[Derek Loree]

Hi all,

I just got my Gforce2 going (Tux Racer is awesome!), and I have the same
problem.  If I switch consoles (ctrl-alt-f[1-6]), then switch back to X
(ctrl-alt-f7)  the display, keyboard and mouse stop responding (never displaying
the X console).  I can ssh into the machine, kill -9 XFree86 and the display, kb
and mouse start working again.

Any ideas about where to start looking would be greatly appreciated!

I'm running sid on an Athlon 1300, custom compiled version of 2.4.18, and
XFree86-4.1

Thanx

Derek Loree

Dan Griswold wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This one stumps me, and I don't where do start in tracking down the
> problem.
>
> If I am in X, and then go to the a console (say) by means of
> ctrl-alt-F1, and then return to X with (e.g.) ctrl-alt-F7, then X
> doesn't come back up. I think it's running, but it ceases to send
> anything to the screen.
>
> I am using XFree86 v. 4, with Trident Blade driver.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TIA,
>
> Dan
>
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PDF

[curtis]

What is the best tool for editing and creating pdf files?

Unresolved Symbols in .../binfmt_aout.o

[Michael Marziani]

Brand new 2.2r5 install.  I get this error several times on bootup, and
if I do a depmod -e, I get:

depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19/fs/binfmt_aout.o
depmod: do_truncate

I have no idea what this error means, or what it will end up affecting.
The only additional module I selected on install was the 3c59x for my
network card.  I have searched google for this and found similar errors,
but no mention of a fix or what problems this might cause.

Any help?

-Mike

Help with compiling X 4.2.0

[Matt Jones]

I am trying to compile X so that I can use my Geforce2 video card.
I am running debian 2.2r2 and did a clean install yesterday.
I put the source code on the drive and began compiling. The make World 
worked fine, but when I did make Install I recieved the following errors...



"...
rm -f gunzip.o
gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce  -ansi -pedantic -Wall -Wpointer-arith  
-I../../../include/fonts -I../include -I../../../programs/Xserver/include 	  
-I../../../include  -I../../.. -I../../../exports/include   -Dlinux 
-D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE 
-D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE  -D_GNU_SOURCE   -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO   
-DFONTDIRATTRIB 	  -DBUILD_SPEEDO -DBUILD_TYPE1 -DBUILD_CID 	  
-DBUILD_FREETYPE  
-DFONT_ENCODINGS_DIRECTORY=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/encodings.dir\" 
  -DX_GZIP_FONT_COMPRESSION   gunzip.c

gunzip.c:9: zlib.h: No such file or directory
make[4]: *** [gunzip.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/matt/xc/lib/font/fontfile'
make[3]: *** [fontfile] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/matt/xc/lib/font'
make[2]: *** [install] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/matt/xc/lib'
make[1]: *** [install] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/matt/xc'
make: *** [install] Error 2
"

How can I fix this error, or is it an error I can fix?
Does anyone know what this means?

Thanks

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FW: power off again sorry i missed the previous one

[Panuganty, Ramesh]

I have kept my experiences here:

http://panuganty.tripod.com/debiantips/boot.htm

| -Original Message-
| From: faisal gillani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:03 PM
| To: list debaun
| Subject: power off again sorry i missed the previous one 
| 
| 
| Well guys soory i missed the previous post about how
| to power off your system with the halt command using
| lilo.conf .. can you repeate it please ..
| i tried man lilo.conf but couldent find anything 
| 
| thanks 
| Faisal

Re: bash scripting question (variables and spaces)

[David Z Maze]

Karsten Heymann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I have once again come upon bash problem I can't solve. I'm writing
> a little bash frontend and one of the programs expects a option that
> includes spaces and is composed from two other shell var's. Example:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> A="Hello"
> B="Karsten"
> C=$A $B 
> someprog --greeting $C

You need something like

#!/bin/sh
A=Hello
B=Karsten
C="$A $B"
someprog --greeting "$C"

Without the quotes, the shell expands things to

someprog --greeting Hello Karsten

which then gets turned into arguments "someprog", "--greeting",
"Hello", "Karsten"; presumably someprog only reads a single argument
after --greeting, and gets just "Hello".

-- 
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"Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal."
-- Abra Mitchell

FW: Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[Panuganty, Ramesh]

Won't a simple 'chroot' in the default shell of the user put all other
applications inaccessible?

I guess you can trim off the menu functions and start panel functions in
most of the WMs?

-Ramesh

| -Original Message-
| From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:42 AM
| To: debian-user
| Subject: Which window-manager for a kiosk?
| 
| 
| Which window manager will give me the ability to size/move/close/etc 
| windows, but without the ability to start other programs, 
| etc. I want a 
| kiosk style setup, on a low-memory machine. ICEWM has that 
| menu at the 
| bottom with the "Start" menu, so it's unsuitable. I tried twm, but I 
| have to manually place the default app (Galeon) when it 
| starts or when a 
| new window is opened by the web site being visited, and I 
| would prefer 
| the window to just take the entire screen or at least not 
| require manual 
| placement.
| 
| Any suggestions?
| 
| Thanks!
| 
| Kent

Re: bash scripting question (variables and spaces)

[Paul F. Pearson]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Karsten Heymann wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have once again come upon bash problem I can't solve. I'm writing a
> little bash frontend and one of the programs expects a option that includes
> spaces and is composed from two other shell var's. Example:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> A="Hello"
> B="Karsten"
> C=$A $B 
> someprog --greeting $C
> 
> Whatever I do now, --greeting receices only the "Hello" part. I've
> tried some other variants too:
> 
> C="$A $B"
> C=\"$A $a\B"
> C='$A $B'
> C=$A\ $B
> C=`echo $A $B`
> 
> What works is 
> someprog --greeting "Hello Karsten"
> but that's no solution.

try someprot --greeting "$A $B"

There's an excelleng bash scripting HOWTO (don't know the URL right of the 
top of my head) that should be very useful.

> 
> Please help :-)
> 
> Karsten
> 
> 

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Re: menu

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:07:34 -0600
ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 09:39:18AM +, Marcelo Leal wrote:
> > Has anyone a menu script done??? I need do some scripts, and i will have
> > to do a nice interface... i thought if somebody have a default one...
> > with colors and so on... 
> > 
> 
> Look at the package dialog, xdialog, whiptail.
there's also gdialog, with a nice gtk interface... it's on
the gnome-utils package

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Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:33:10 -0600
Dimitri Maziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * Michael Marziani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > I recently started with a new company and they are using lots of Linux
> > systems, mostly RedHat and SuSE.  We are in the middle of upgrading a
> > bunch of the machines and I very much want to figure out a way to
> > present Debian to them as an option.  From having used many Linux
> > distributions extensively, I know what sets Debian apart and why RPM is
> > ineffective etc, etc.  But, I am interested in finding industry sources
> > and/or extremely technical/powerful write-ups on what sets Debian apart,
> > and the inadequacies of the other distros.
> > 
> > I've searched google for hours but all I've found is usenet posts, most
> > of which is just flame-wars, and none of which would be adequate to
> > present to my boss and co-workers.
> 
> Why do you want to advocate running a beta OS on production systems?
> You want your sysadmin to hate you?
what beta OS did he mention?

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Re: bash scripting question (variables and spaces)

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 20:35:53 +0100, Karsten Heymann wrote:
> A="Hello"
> B="Karsten"
> C=$A $B 
> someprog --greeting $C

Variable expansion happens first:
someprog --greeting Hello Karsten
then tokenising, so someprog get three arguments:
1. --greeting
2. Hello
3. Karsten
whereas you want it to get two arguments:
1. --greeting
2. Hello Karsten
in which case you need double quotes around $C to prevent it from being
split into multiple tokens:
someprog --greeting "$C"

HTH,
Ray
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Re: docs material

[Alan James]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:52:53PM +0100, Mirek Dobsicek wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>  I'm looking for some readable documentation about
> ethernet frame. I've looked at google, but there
> is too much of links, and as I'm beginner ... cant choose

Must be something wrong with your googling technique.. 

google for "ethernet frame specification" look at the 2nd link
probably the others a good too, thats the one that caught my eye.

Then of course you need to understand tcp packets. You can find that
yourself, I shouldnt be doing your homework for you should I ?

> I have to choose some protocol (http, ftp, pop . please
> let me know what is the easiest and still useful, please include

Telnet. You can watch the traffic a keypress at a time to help you
understand it.

Re: Problems installing gnucash

[stan]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 10:23:52AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 06:50:49AM -0500, stan wrote:
> > I tried to add gnucash this morning to my woody (with a few unstable bits)
> > machine. But I ran inot this:
> > 
> > Unpacking guile1.3 (from .../guile1.3_1%3a1.3.4-2_i386.deb) ...
> 
> guile1.3 is obsolete, and not part of woody. You seem to have got it
> from stable.
> 
> > dpkg: error processing
> > /var/cache/apt/archives/guile1.3_1%3a1.3.4-2_i386.deb (--unpack):
> >  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/guile-wm-menu-launch', which is also in
> >  package guile-common
> >  dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> >  Unpacking libguile6-slib (from .../libguile6-slib_1%3a1.3.4-2_i386.deb)
> >  ...
> >  Unpacking gnucash (from .../gnucash_1.3.4-3_i386.deb) ...
> 
> You need to get gnucash 1.6.6-1 from unstable, not 1.3.4-3 from stable.
> It hasn't made it into testing yet for a variety of reasons.
> 

Cool, but since dslect doesn't do that automaticly (and I thought it would
because I have dman's magic incation in /etc/apt for using unstable with
stable), then how's the best way to do this?

Thanks for the help.

-- 
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neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin

Re: bash scripting question (variables and spaces)

[ktb]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:35:53PM +0100, Karsten Heymann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have once again come upon bash problem I can't solve. I'm writing a
> little bash frontend and one of the programs expects a option that includes
> spaces and is composed from two other shell var's. Example:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> A="Hello"
> B="Karsten"
> C=$A $B 
> someprog --greeting $C
> 

#!/bin/bash
A="Hello"
B="Karsten"
C="$A $B"

echo "$C"

Works fine for me.  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/scratch$ ./yo2
Hello Karsten

What is your "someprog" ?
kent

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Re: xawtv and fullscreen

[Alan James]

On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 05:07:01PM +0100, Joerg Johannes wrote:


> If I'm right, Modelines are not necessary any more with XF86-4.1 . 

That's right, X now has a set of vesa display modes built in, so you dont
need to set up common modes.

>So, how can I get this (from the man page):
> 
> Modeline  "pal"  50.00  768 832 856 1000  576 590 595 630  -hsync -vsync
> 
> to work with my brand new XF86-4.1 ?

I was trying to do the same thing the other day. The modeline goes into
the Monitor section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
Restart X and if you have as much luck as I did, in /var/log/XFree86.0.log
you'll see 'Not using default mode "pal" (vrefresh out of range)' or similar

I didnt fiddle with the modeline at all or try anything else. I'm reasonably
happy with the 800x600 view for the moment, and I'm probably going to try for
a widescreen view if my tv card etc supports it.

What kind of video card do you have ? I havent tried a PAL mode since ive been
using this Matrox G400 Max so it could be that or the upgrade to X4 that broke
it. Something doesnt like the screen mode thats for sure.

Alan

RE:bash scripting question (variables and spaces)

[Andrew Agno]

Karsten Heymann writes:
 > I have once again come upon bash problem I can't solve. I'm writing a
 > little bash frontend and one of the programs expects a option that includes
 > spaces and is composed from two other shell var's. Example:
 > 
 > #!/bin/bash
 > A="Hello"
 > B="Karsten"
 > C=$A $B 
 > someprog --greeting $C

use "$C" instead of $C:

% cat junk
#!/bin/bash
A="hello"
B="there"
C="$A $B"
./junk2 "$C"
% cat junk2
#!/bin/bash
echo $1
% ./junk
hello there

Andrew.

Re: bash scripting question (variables and spaces)

[Craig Dickson]

This should work, though I have not actually tried it:

#!/bin/bash
A="Hello"
B="Karsten"
C="$A $B"
someprog --greeting "$C"


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Description: PGP signature

Re: Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[Karsten Heymann]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:41:35AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Which window manager will give me the ability to size/move/close/etc 
> windows, but without the ability to start other programs, etc. I want a 
> kiosk style setup, on a low-memory machine. ICEWM has that menu at the 
> bottom with the "Start" menu, so it's unsuitable. I tried twm, but I 
> have to manually place the default app (Galeon) when it starts or when a 
> new window is opened by the web site being visited, and I would prefer 
> the window to just take the entire screen or at least not require manual 
> placement.
> 
> Any suggestions?

I suggest (all untested):

 - use no window manager
 - start galeon in fullscreen mode from .xinitrc or .xsession
 - map away the F11-Key with xmodmap
 - maybe disable C-A-F[1-12]
 - maybe disable C-A-Backspace
 - disable most mime stuff to prevent the start of external viewers
 - have galeon automatically restart if it exits

That should keep the system quite closed. As I didn't test that,
suggestions are welcome!

Greets,

Karsten


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Re: power off again sorry i missed the previous one

[Frank Hart]

* faisal gillani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well guys soory i missed the previous post about how
> to power off your system with the halt command using
> lilo.conf .. can you repeate it please ..
> i tried man lilo.conf but couldent find anything 

append="apm=on" in your lilo.conf. Try searching in Google groups. Works even
faster compared to this list ;-)

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Re: power off again sorry i missed the previous one

[John Harrison]

--- faisal gillani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well guys soory i missed the previous post about how
> to power off your system with the halt command using
> lilo.conf .. can you repeate it please ..
> i tried man lilo.conf but couldent find anything 

I hope this is what you need:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/ch-install.en.html#s-apm


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Re: configuring ext3

[Walter Tautz]

On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root18968 Mar 10 16:28 /sbin/fsck
> -rwxr-xr-x2 root root   100120 Mar 10 16:28 /sbin/fsck.ext2
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root   100120 Mar 10 16:28 /sbin/fsck.ext3
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root97532 Sep 22 08:15 /sbin/fsck.ext3,ext2
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root21144 Jan 26 23:05 /sbin/fsck.minix
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Jan  4 21:19 /sbin/fsck.msdos -> 
> dosfsck
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  413 Jan 25 05:05 /sbin/fsck.nfs
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Jan  4 21:19 /sbin/fsck.vfat -> 
> dosfsck
> 
> 
> I looked at my directory and found strange thing.  I think I did
> hardlink and upgraded fsck.  
> 
> Should I have done symlink???  Any comment?  I thought I made
> /sbin/fsck.ext3,ext2 as the same size as /sbin/fsck.ext3 ??? why???

I have the same hardlinks and I never did this myself. Conclusion must
be that the system does it for you.

My problem is my root partition still mounts as ext2 even though fstab says
ext3. I converted it from ext2. My guess is that /etc/fstab was incorrectly
set when I compiled my kernel and mkinitrd ran?

-walter

Re: power off again sorry i missed the previous one

[timothy bauscher]

> Well guys soory i missed the previous post about how
> to power off your system with the halt command using
> lilo.conf .. can you repeate it please ..
> i tried man lilo.conf but couldent find anything 
>
> thanks 
> Faisal

As root, edit /etc/lilo.conf
and add this to the (probably commented out)
append line:

append="apm=on"

I have my cdrw drive in scsi emulation, so
this my append line:

append="apm=on hdc=ide-scsi max_scsi_luns=1"


(==timothy==)

Re: Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[Paul F. Pearson]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Kent West wrote:

> Which window manager will give me the ability to size/move/close/etc 
> windows, but without the ability to start other programs, etc. I want a 
> kiosk style setup, on a low-memory machine. ICEWM has that menu at the 
> bottom with the "Start" menu, so it's unsuitable. I tried twm, but I 
> have to manually place the default app (Galeon) when it starts or when a 
> new window is opened by the web site being visited, and I would prefer 
> the window to just take the entire screen or at least not require manual 
> placement.

I use flwm on my Debian PowerPC Woody distro. Runs nice. You have to click 
on the desktop to bring up a menu for running programs. Of course, the 
title bar in on the left, not on top. Takes some getting used to, but I 
really like it. 

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back to You" - Heal Our Land, _Magnify The Lord_ (Integrity Music)

Re: Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Mar 19, 2002, Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Which window manager will give me the ability to size/move/close/etc 
> windows, but without the ability to start other programs, etc. I want a 
> kiosk style setup, on a low-memory machine. 

> ICEWM has that menu at the bottom with the "Start" menu, so it's
> unsuitable. 

ICEWM is highly configurably IIRC.

> I tried twm, but I have to manually place the default app (Galeon)

Nope.  RTFM twm, search "placement".

> Any suggestions?

Galeon, in full screen tabbed mode, with *no* window manager, would be
my first choice.

Peace.

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Re: power off again sorry i missed the previous one

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Mar 19, 2002, faisal gillani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Well guys soory i missed the previous post about how
> to power off your system with the halt command using
> lilo.conf .. can you repeate it please ..
> i tried man lilo.conf but couldent find anything 

List archives are at http://lists.debian.org/

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Re: Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 19-Mar-2002 Kent West wrote:
> Which window manager will give me the ability to size/move/close/etc 
> windows, but without the ability to start other programs, etc. I want a 
> kiosk style setup, on a low-memory machine. ICEWM has that menu at the 
> bottom with the "Start" menu, so it's unsuitable. I tried twm, but I 
> have to manually place the default app (Galeon) when it starts or when a 
> new window is opened by the web site being visited, and I would prefer 
> the window to just take the entire screen or at least not require manual 
> placement.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 

Most window managers can have their menu removed with little effort.

Re: Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[Joseph Dane]

> "Kent" == Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Kent> Any suggestions?

sawfish.  it's small, doesn't have a "start menu" type thing, and I
think will place windows for you.

it does pop up a menu when a certain key is pressed ("mouse-2"??) on
the root window, which could allow for the launching of new programs.
but it shouldn't be too hard to disable that, or strip the menus of
any dangerous entries.

you can usually configure the size and geometry of X programs by
passing a "-geometry" argument on the command line.  galleon or
mozilla or whatever may not honor this, though.

you might also want to think about disabling the normal control key
sequence which can shutdown X.  maybe you can change it to a secret
key combination which shuts X down.  I don't know how this is done.

-- 

joe

docs material

[Mirek Dobsicek]

Hi all,

 I'm looking for some readable documentation about
ethernet frame. I've looked at google, but there
is too much of links, and as I'm beginner ... cant choose

I need it to my work to school. We have to catch some
packets using tcpdump -w file.dat and analyze this file.

I have to choose some protocol (http, ftp, pop . please
let me know what is the easiest and still useful, please include
links to documentation) and from  that file of saved packets do two 
statistics


a\ tcp statistics ... num. of packets, num. of collisions, window size 
etc ...(tcp traffic only for the session used in part b\ )
b\ session statistic  eg. for ftp: username, password, used 
commands,  sended file name ... etc...



thanks in advance, Mirek

confused re:server error

[john gennard]

On 16th March I posted a request for help on the subject of 'server 
error'. I have received no reply (or copy of my email this is 
unusual in my experience on this list. Of course I have no right to 
expect to be helped, but I do not recollect an occasion when I have 
not been.

I decided to make a further search of the archives to see if I could
find any pointers. Within minutes, I found my original question and 
two very prompt responses. I find this difficult to understand and a
little annoying since not having been able to thank those who 
responded I could be viewed as ungrateful.

Patrick @ kirks.net and Kent @nixnotes.org - I am grateful for your
reponses - thank you.

Can anyone suggest why messages can go missing as has been the 
case here?

Regards,john 

bash scripting question (variables and spaces)

[Karsten Heymann]

Hi,

I have once again come upon bash problem I can't solve. I'm writing a
little bash frontend and one of the programs expects a option that includes
spaces and is composed from two other shell var's. Example:

#!/bin/bash
A="Hello"
B="Karsten"
C=$A $B 
someprog --greeting $C

Whatever I do now, --greeting receices only the "Hello" part. I've
tried some other variants too:

C="$A $B"
C=\"$A $a\B"
C='$A $B'
C=$A\ $B
C=`echo $A $B`

What works is 
someprog --greeting "Hello Karsten"
but that's no solution.

Please help :-)

Karsten

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RE: High powered Debian advocacy?

[Michael Marziani]

1) Debian is about as far from being a Beta OS as you can get.
2) I am one of 2 sysadmins.  I need to convince my boss and co-worker
that Debian is the best option.

-Mike


-Original Message-
From: Dimitri Maziuk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:33 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: High powered Debian advocacy?


* Michael Marziani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> I recently started with a new company and they are using lots of Linux

> systems, mostly RedHat and SuSE.  We are in the middle of upgrading a 
> bunch of the machines and I very much want to figure out a way to 
> present Debian to them as an option.  From having used many Linux 
> distributions extensively, I know what sets Debian apart and why RPM 
> is ineffective etc, etc.  But, I am interested in finding industry 
> sources and/or extremely technical/powerful write-ups on what sets 
> Debian apart, and the inadequacies of the other distros.
> 
> I've searched google for hours but all I've found is usenet posts, 
> most of which is just flame-wars, and none of which would be adequate 
> to present to my boss and co-workers.

Why do you want to advocate running a beta OS on production systems? You
want your sysadmin to hate you?

Dima
-- 
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of
entities."-- corollary to
Occam's Razor


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Re: Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[ktb]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:41:35AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Which window manager will give me the ability to size/move/close/etc 
> windows, but without the ability to start other programs, etc. I want a 
> kiosk style setup, on a low-memory machine. ICEWM has that menu at the 
> bottom with the "Start" menu, so it's unsuitable. I tried twm, but I 
> have to manually place the default app (Galeon) when it starts or when a 
> new window is opened by the web site being visited, and I would prefer 
> the window to just take the entire screen or at least not require manual 
> placement.
> 
> Any suggestions?

I used fvwm on our kiosks at work.  I'm not sure what yours is going to
be used for but ours loads netscape which is pointed to two internal web
servers.  We didn't want them to have the capability of size/move/etc
so we overlayed all the buttons and such with graphics.  At any rate you
should be able to add or remove whatever buttons you want to windows,
configure the root menus, etc under fvwm.  It is light weight and highly 
configurable, not the most beautiful though:)  Depending on your security 
needs you might want to look into running this in a chroot directory or use 
rbash.  
hth,
kent

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Re: REMOVE ME FROM ALL MAIL LISTS

[Siward de Groot]

 Hello, John,

John Lord wrote:
> Same, done that, recieved Confirmation mail, and replied as above,
> result the same.
> 
> > Should neither of these work for you, then please send a detailed
> > report of
> >   exactly what you did that didnt work.
> 
> Right.
> I have tried subbing via the web site and sending a mail to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject Subscribe,
> recieved confirmation mail, replied as above, nothing recieved.

 I have forwarded this to listmaster.
 He can see what, if any, was received at debian-user-request ;
   as you can mail this list, i assume that debian-user-request is
getting your message,
   maybe it doesnt recognize that it is an (un)subscribe request.

 I noticed that your subject lines appear as all-uppercase,
   which is ofcourse not surprising for someone who is on
"screaming.net",
   but maybe it makes a difference when subscribing ?
 Listmaster knows.

 greetings & till later, 

   Siward

Abiword hangs. Have somebody else experienced this?

[Preben Randhol]

The abiword hangs after I press space and the aspell spellchecker is
invoked. However this only happens on my laptop. On my dekstop it works.
They have the same debian Testing with some unstable package installed.

There are a bugreports about this in the bug system, but I'm wondering
if anybody might have found a workaround?

Thanks in advance for any hints.

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xawtv and fullscreen

[Joerg Johannes]

Hi list

A friend has boorowed me his Hauppauge TV-Card, so I installed xawtv, got 
everything working, only one thing is not perfect:
The man page for xawtvrc(5) shows an example for a modeline to put in the 
/etc/X11/XF86Config. If I'm right, Modelines are not necessary any more with 
XF86-4.1 . So, how can I get this (from the man page):

Modeline  "pal"  50.00  768 832 856 1000  576 590 595 630  -hsync -vsync

to work with my brand new XF86-4.1 ?
Simply putting the resolution into the conffiles does not do the job - xawtv 
does not switch the resolution. If I put fullscreen 800x600 into ~/.xawtvrc, 
the resolution changes to 800x600, but I have a black frame around the tv 
image.
Any ideas?

thanks a lot

joerg

Re: Movies, MPEG, and DVDs

[csj]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 06:26:15AM -0700, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:
> What about creating movies, doing MPEG-2 compression and burning DVD
> that will work on "normal" (non-computer) players.
> 
> I understand that this is still an "art".

Some standalone DVD players can play VCDs, which can be produced by a
program like VCDImager. There are tools which can encode to MPEG-2
format. SVCD (I think) supports MPEG-2. As for movie-making, I
don't think there's any all-in-one package, not counting the
abandoned Broadcast 2000. To record, do some basic editing or
transcode you have to do it the Unix Way with command line tools like
xawtv, mjpegtools, mpgtx or transcode.

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RE: USB Mouse potato

[Panuganty, Ramesh]

Check for your mouse' compatibility with the USB in 2.2 kernel.

If yes, configure the XF86Config file with Protocol as "IMPS/2". Don't
give the protocol as "USB", as documented in some places.

-Ramesh

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Linden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:20 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: USB Mouse potato


X fails because I cannot configure the mouse. A USB wheel mouse.
Unfortunately my machine has four USB ports, no PS/2 or serial ports, so
using a different mouse type is out of the question.

Debian version is potato. I would like to avoid having to download woody
if possible.


Strangely, an probably of no relation to my USB problem, dmesg reports
that a PS/2 mouse port was found. STrange because there is no PS/2 port
on the machine.

Please help!

Matt
"Dans les champs de l'observation, le hasard ne favorise que les esprits
prepares." - L. Pasteur.

Mr. Matthew D Linden
B.Sc. Hons. (W.Aust) AAIMS
Medical Research Scientist
The Western Australian Centre for Pathology and Medical Research The
Queen Elizabeth II Medical Centre, Nedlands


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RE: Cannot login using root password

[Panuganty, Ramesh]

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Strong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:37 PM
To: Debian User (E-mail)
Subject: Cannot login using root password

Folks, I have a problem. I cannot login to my debian system using the
root password but I can login using other users logins. Is there
anything I can do to regain the ability to login as root other than
rebuilding the server.Thanks for the help in advance.

http://panuganty.tripod.com/debiantips/boot.htm

power off again sorry i missed the previous one

[faisal gillani]

Well guys soory i missed the previous post about how
to power off your system with the halt command using
lilo.conf .. can you repeate it please ..
i tried man lilo.conf but couldent find anything 

thanks 
Faisal



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Which window-manager for a kiosk?

[Kent West]

Which window manager will give me the ability to size/move/close/etc 
windows, but without the ability to start other programs, etc. I want a 
kiosk style setup, on a low-memory machine. ICEWM has that menu at the 
bottom with the "Start" menu, so it's unsuitable. I tried twm, but I 
have to manually place the default app (Galeon) when it starts or when a 
new window is opened by the web site being visited, and I would prefer 
the window to just take the entire screen or at least not require manual 
placement.


Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Kent

Re: Linux on Palm m125

[Darryl L. Pierce]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 04:08:05PM +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 01:15:53PM +0100, Fran?ois Chenais wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Is somebody has installed linux instead of palm OS on 
> > a palm m125 ?
> Not very usefull - a Plam has not the Hardware to run Linux.
> There was a commercial port, AFAIK you can download a demo version.
> RTFG (Read The Fine Google)

If you're referring to Linux DA, save your money. It's not very useful
and doesn't feel like Linux at all, even though it's based on a 2.2
kernel (or is it 2.0?). I had it on my Palm IIIx for a few days and
finally dumped it and got my money back. I had thought I could have some
common code between the Palm and my laptop, but the LinuxDA API is more
like the standard PalmOS API; i.e., nothing portable.

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Re: Need dpkg expert

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:16:28AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> >Your debconf database is broken in some exciting way. Backing up and
> >moving aside /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and
> >/var/cache/debconf/templates.dat may help, although Joey may have some
> >more cunning solution.
> 
> Woo-hoo!! You're a genius! You're astounding! You da man!
> 
> You ARE, the strongest link!! Hello.

Cool :) Sorry it took so long.

You'll have to answer debconf questions on subsequent upgrades that you
answered before this, of course, but given that maintainers who treat
debconf as a registry tend to get hit with heavy objects that shouldn't
be much of a loss.

Cheers,

-- 
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Re: Need dpkg expert

[Kent West]

Colin Watson wrote:

On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 11:31:12AM -0600, Kent West wrote:

My problem is that once when trying to uinstall gdm the process was 
halted mid-stream. Ever since then, several packages refuse to install 
or uninstall, such as:


Setting up man-db (2.3.20-13) ...
dpkg: error processing man-db (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10



Your debconf database is broken in some exciting way. Backing up and
moving aside /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and
/var/cache/debconf/templates.dat may help, although Joey may have some
more cunning solution.




Woo-hoo!! You're a genius! You're astounding! You da man!

You ARE, the strongest link!! Hello.

Thank you thank you thank you!

No rebuild necessary after all; this IS the world of Linux, not of 
Microsoft! Yee-hi-i-i-i


Thanks, Colin! You made my six months!

Kent

Re: checkpoint 4.1 on debian

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Ronneil Camara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.03.19.1611 +0100]:
> has anyone installed checkpoint on debian? procedures please.

convert the rpm with alien and install. checkpoint only supports
2.2.14 kernels, so have fun running an insecure kernel. nevertheless:
i've had success with 2.2.20.

btw: in the future it would help if you'd phrase your emails a little
friendlier. i am only helping now because i feel that very little
people know this, but i wasn't very motivated by the tone of your
post. this isn't a flame, just a note!

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Re: Need dpkg expert

[Kent West]

Rogério Brito wrote:

On Mar 18 2002, Kent West wrote:

This did allow me to purge the offending packages. However, it has not 
solved the problem.


(...)

The problem seems to be with the packaging infra-structure.
Can you reinstall dpkg, apt, debconf, apt-utils etc? This
might perhaps help your situation, I'd think...

If it doesn't then the problem seems to be indeed really
serious...


Hope this helps, Roger...



It's beginning to look a lot like rebuild, everywhere I go . . . .


fafsa-02[westk]:/var/lib/dpkg/info> sudo apt-get --reinstall install 
dpkg apt debconf apt-utils

Password:
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 
131  not upgraded.

1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 787kB/1956kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main apt 0.5.4 [615kB]
Get:2 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main apt-utils 0.5.4 [173kB] 

Fetched 787kB in 21s (36.4kB/s) 


Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 21486 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace dpkg 1.9.19 (using 
.../archives/dpkg_1.9.19_i386.deb) ...

Unpacking replacement dpkg ...
Setting up dpkg (1.9.19) ...

(Reading database ... 21486 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace debconf 1.0.31 (using .../debconf_1.0.31_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement debconf ...
Preparing to replace apt 0.5.4 (using .../archives/apt_0.5.4_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement apt ...
Setting up apt (0.5.4) ...

(Reading database ... 21486 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace apt-utils 0.5.4 (using 
.../apt-utils_0.5.4_i386.deb) ...

Unpacking replacement apt-utils ...
Setting up debconf (1.0.31) ...

Setting up apt-utils (0.5.4) ...

Setting up xdm (4.1.0-14) ...
+ THIS_PACKAGE=xdm
+ THIS_SCRIPT=postinst
+ trap 'message;  message "Received signal.  Aborting xdm package 
postinst script.";  message;  exit 1' 1 2 3 15

+ command -v readlink
+ . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
++ '[' '!' '' ']'
++ exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/xdm.postinst 
configure ''

dpkg: error processing xdm (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xdm
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Re: temporary ethernet card

[timothy bauscher]

> A coworker has offered to loan me two network cards to
> copy 
> the data, which sounds *real cool*. Here're my questions:
>
> (1) What's involved in adding the network cards to the machines (old
> one 
> runs Potato, new will have Woody)

I think you can just run modconf. Make sure
you find out what driver (Tulip, 3c*, etc.).
Just find a name brand or identification number
and search google for the answer.

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/appd_06.html
has a really old list of drivers. They also have
some instructions about insmod.

> (2) What will be required to keep Linux happy when I remove the
> network 
> card from my Woody machine? Or, would it be worthwhile to just get a 
> network card, even though it won't be connected to anything?

I would get a network card, you can buy one
new for less than $15. You can buy one used for
less than $5. I use the RTL8139 card and the
3c905x card, both work beautifully.

If you don't have it connected to anything, make
sure to turn off dhcpd (or not turn it on in the
first place, which is probably your case).

Otherwise booting will take a very long time while
dhcpd tries to find your network unsuccesfully.

> (3) This one is probably in a FAQ or HOW-TO, I haven't looked yet: if
> I 
> connect the two computers via a crossover cable, how would I set up
> the 
> Linux boxes?

Total guess: Setup PC1 with IP of 192.168.1.100
and PC2 with an IP of 192.168.1.101. Set the
default gateway for PC2 to 192.168.1.100. Set the
subnet mask for each to 255.255.255.0.

That's probably way off though, the people in this
list are much smarter than i and will probably have
a better answer.

(==timothy==)

New kernel

[Michael Montagne]

I'm upgrading a stock Progeny install on a PentiumII.

I just ran apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.16-686
Duriing the install I was told to include a reference to initrd in
lilo.conf.
Since I'm running GRUB, this is what I added to menu.lst:

title Debian GNU/Linux (kernel 2.4.16)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinux-2.4.26-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.4.16-686

I just copied the entries that existed and substituted th names of the
files that I found in /boot after apt-get was finished.
Is this right?
At the end of the install there was a reference to "initrd.img not symlink..not 
clobbered"
What does that mean?


-- 
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Re: DRI not enabled - Why?

[Kent West]

Bob Underwood wrote:

On Sunday 17 March 2002 21:31, Kent West wrote:


Near as I can tell, DIR should work. Below is my XF86Config-4 file, and
after that the output of "startx 2> startx.log".





What kernel?  When I upgrade my kernel from 2.4.17 to 2.4.18, I also lost my 
DRI with an ATI video card.  Backgrading to 2.4.17 has it working again.  
(This is on an athlon processor.)


Bob


Good idea; 2.4.13. I'm currently downloading the source for 2.4.18; will 
give it a try tonight and see if that makes a difference.


Thanks!

Kent

Re: temporary ethernet card

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 19-Mar-2002 Paul F. Pearson wrote:
> This sounds like it probably reduces to a newbie question...
> 
> I just bought a new computer, and need to transfer a bunch of data onto it 
> from my old computer. Neither one has an ethernet card (don't need one - I 
> use dialup). A coworker has offered to loan me two network cards to copy 
> the data, which sounds *real cool*. Here're my questions:
> 
> (1) What's involved in adding the network cards to the machines (old one 
> runs Potato, new will have Woody)
> 

Let's assume PCI.

the biggest obstacle is having the kernel modules for the cards.  If you
compiled your own kernel you may have left them out.

Basically you add the card and reboot.  Login as root.  Run lspci and look for
the network adapter.  From there you look the card up in the supported cards
and modprobe the right driver.  Chances are it is either tulip or 3c509.  Once
the cards are up you simply give each machine an IP.  Something like 10.1.1.1
and 10.1.1.2.  If he can supply a cross over cable, great.

> (2) What will be required to keep Linux happy when I remove the network 
> card from my Woody machine? Or, would it be worthwhile to just get a 
> network card, even though it won't be connected to anything?
> 

You actually do not need to make any permanent changes to the machines.  You
can modprobe the driver by hand, ifconfig by hand, copy the data and then power
off and remove the card.  When you reboot the machine will never know it
happened.

> (3) This one is probably in a FAQ or HOW-TO, I haven't looked yet: if I 
> connect the two computers via a crossover cable, how would I set up the 
> Linux boxes?
> 

Just like you would otherwise.  There is no need for a gateway/route though.

Re: DRI not enabled - Why?

[Kent West]

Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:

Hi Kent,

everything you posted looks ok to me. What makes you think DRI _isn't_ enabled? 
What is the answer if you type 'glxinfo'?

Regards, Joachim




direct rendering: No

Re: temporary ethernet card

[Sebastiaan]

High,

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Paul F. Pearson wrote:

> This sounds like it probably reduces to a newbie question...
>
> I just bought a new computer, and need to transfer a bunch of data onto it
> from my old computer. Neither one has an ethernet card (don't need one - I
> use dialup). A coworker has offered to loan me two network cards to copy
> the data, which sounds *real cool*. Here're my questions:
>
> (1) What's involved in adding the network cards to the machines (old one
> runs Potato, new will have Woody)
>
Nothing much really. If your kernel is compiled to support the cards, it's
all very simple. Let's assume they are 3c905 NIC's. This will do it:

insmod 3c59x
ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up

On the other computer do the same, only with address 192.168.1.2.

Check if it is all working well:
ping 192.168.1.1
ping 192.168.1.2

Congratulations!

If you install proftpd on one computer and ncftp on the other, you will be
able to transfer files pretty quickly.

> (2) What will be required to keep Linux happy when I remove the network
> card from my Woody machine? Or, would it be worthwhile to just get a
> network card, even though it won't be connected to anything?
>
Just sing to it when it is loading the kernel. No problems will appear
then.

> (3) This one is probably in a FAQ or HOW-TO, I haven't looked yet: if I
> connect the two computers via a crossover cable, how would I set up the
> Linux boxes?
>
See (1).

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


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Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* Michael Marziani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> I recently started with a new company and they are using lots of Linux
> systems, mostly RedHat and SuSE.  We are in the middle of upgrading a
> bunch of the machines and I very much want to figure out a way to
> present Debian to them as an option.  From having used many Linux
> distributions extensively, I know what sets Debian apart and why RPM is
> ineffective etc, etc.  But, I am interested in finding industry sources
> and/or extremely technical/powerful write-ups on what sets Debian apart,
> and the inadequacies of the other distros.
> 
> I've searched google for hours but all I've found is usenet posts, most
> of which is just flame-wars, and none of which would be adequate to
> present to my boss and co-workers.

Why do you want to advocate running a beta OS on production systems?
You want your sysadmin to hate you?

Dima
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entities."-- corollary to Occam's Razor