Re: Packages providing a daemon/service and configuration

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most (all?) packages providing a daemon or other service will start
> it when installed, without asking the user first. Is there a reason?
> I often want to have such services ready for use (with documentation
> and configuration files), but not started immediately, i.e. not
> running by default.
[snip]


The current behaviour is far more sensible to a non-expert user than
the opposite behaviour, where he installs (say) apache, then bombards
the list with messages with the subject 'broken apache - doesn't
start' so that he can be told he needs to 'update-rc.d apache start 90
2 3 4 5 . stop 20 0 1 6 .'.  A user who wants a web-server shouldn't
then have to figure that out to start the web-server.  In fact, I've
probably got it wrong anyway since I don't use update-rc.d but just
mangle the symlinks manually.
If you don't want something to start on bootup, then to solution is:

for i in `find . -type f -name S90telnetd` ; do
mv $i `echo $i | sed s/S90telnetd/K90telnetd` ;
done

There is probably a much easier way of doing it than that, but it
works, and this is my opinion, after all.


Tom
-- 
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Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide

"That you're not paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you."
- Robert Waldner

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Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Matthew Daubenspeck  quotation:

> Would you then use LAME to convert to MP3?

I would then use oggenc to convert to Ogg Vorbis, which sounds much
better than mp3 and is patent-free.

Craig


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Almost there!

[John Bruner]

Hi,

I have received help getting this far, but now am stuck.

On my Mac IIfx, I can get to the configuration screen. I tell the
installer which keyboard I have. The next thing the installer wants to
do is partition the Hard drive. I select that option. When the screen
changes, I lose approximately 4 characters on the left side of my
screen.

The entire screen is visible up to that point. With those characters
missing, I cannot choose the commands necessary to partition the drive.

I believe I am using "woody". One of the initial screens says: Debian
GNU Linux 3.0

Can anyone get me past here?

Thanks,

John Bruner

Re: sound question

[Adam Majer]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 07:53:24PM +0100, Malte Thoma wrote:
> can anybody tell me, how to set up the soundsystem of my laptop?
> I have tryed severalthings, but without success :-(
> 
> lspci says:
> 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC97 Audio 
> Controller (rev 50)

Try the VIA sound driver. Many built-in sound "cards" have ability to
be accessed as legacy Sound Blasters. This will be an option in the BIOS.

- Adam

Re: Dual boot default and Compatibility

[Tom Cook]

On  0, John Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Well, I've partitioned my harddrive with Partition Magic.
> And I am currently downloading Mandrake GNU/Linux, because of everyone's 
> advice.
> 
> NOW I know this is for DEBIAN GNU/Linux BUT I have to ask in here (because 
> I don't want to be added to yet another mailing list) and I figure someone 
> might know seeings how everyone kept telling me to get Mandrake GNU/Linux.
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to create a dual boot system with Mandrake GNU/Linux 
> and Windows XP, with Windows XP being the system that boots up as the 
> default OS making it so the computer will AUTOMATICALLY run Windows XP 
> unless I tell it to run Mandrake?

I don't know how to do this in Mandrake, and probably not too many
people here will.  In general Mandrake has a Tool for Everything(TM)
so there is probably a funky tool for this as well.  The Real Way(TM)
(and hard way, it must be said) is to read 'man lilo.conf'.  It will
tell you how to add different OSs to the list of things you can boot
into, and how to decide which one is the default ('default=dos' from
memory, if you call your XP option 'dos').  You are far better off (a)
using GRUB and (b) asking this question on a Mandrake list, because
they will know all about the Funky Tool.

> ALSO
> 
> Is Debian software (such as abbiword) compatible with Mandrake GNU/Linux 
> and vice versa?

'Debian software', as such, is, I suppose, compatible with Mandrake,
but is probably a pain to install (there will not be a tool for
installing software from .deb files) and the automagic dependency
checking will not work.  This means that some software might not run
because you don't have, for instance, the correct libc installed.

> in fact is ALL Linux software compatible with the different OS's of Linux?

So long as you have the correct libraries installed in the correct
versions and places.

> Thanks once again for helping me with my questions.

No worries, but I think there are other places you could find better help.

Tom
-- 
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Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide

"That you're not paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you."
- Robert Waldner

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Re: DRI not enabled - Why?

[Kent West]

Kent West wrote:

I was running a custom 2.4.13, but someone mentioned it might be a 
kernel thing, so I upgraded to a custom 2.4.18.



Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:


Hi Kent,

everything you posted looks ok to me. What makes you think DRI 
_isn't_ enabled? What is the answer if you type 'glxinfo'?


Regards, Joachim


Output of glxinfo:
EnJaeLove[westk]:/home/westk> glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
   GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
   GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
GLX extensions:
   GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: VA Linux Systems, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.4.2
OpenGL extensions:
   GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
   GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
   GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

  visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
--
0x23 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x24 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None
0x25 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x26 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None



startx 2> startx.log =

XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 21 December 2001
   If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
   newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
   reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.13 i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.1.log", Time: Thu Mar 21 07:15:48 2002
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Layout0"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Rage128"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1" does not exist.
   Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/local/share/fonts/ttfonts" does not exist.
   Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to 
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/

fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11
/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/
X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 8

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(--) PCI:*(1:5:0) ATI Rage 128 Pro PF rev 0, Mem @ 0xd400/26, 
0xd900/14,

I/O @ 0xc000/8
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxie.a
(II) Module xie: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libpex5.a
(II) Module pex5: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
(II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
(II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
(II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a
(II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/e

Re: installing debian

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Jackie Holster wrote:

>Hi, I have been trying to install Debian for a couple of days now, i get
> throught  the process untill i reach where i have to pick which dictionary i
> want to use as a default, when i click which, nothing happens, so i'm

It's not a GUI, it's a menu.  Use the keyboard, not the mouse.

-- 
Baloo

Re: matrox g400 X problem

[Good Times]

this was the right thing

this led me to read throught he xinerama howto and now things are better than 
they were before as i now have proper xinerama support

thanks


on Thu, 21 Mar 2002 Simon Hepburn typed

> You are trying to use Xinerama and 3D accel together. They are incompatible.
>
> Simon Hepburn.
>
>
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installing debian

[Jackie Holster]

   

   Hi, I have been trying to install Debian for a couple of days now, i get 
throught  the process untill i reach where i have to pick which dictionary i 
want to use as a default, when i click which, nothing happens, so i'm 
assuming I have picked the wrong keyboard, now with each new install i have 
picked a different keyboard, mine is a turbio-media, 105 keys , now i have an 
adapter to go into the back of the computer (its a TX) i am using an adapter 
to change the keyboard fitting from a  9 pin (male) to a 5 pin (male) to fit 
in the computer, could someone please tell me which keyboard i should be 
using. I' a new user, so can it be in plain english please.  

  
Thanking you  Mrs C.J.Holster

Exim and MySQL

[Matthew Daubenspeck]

Does the potato version of Exim (3.12) contain support for MySQL?

RE: Installation of JDK

[Lawrence, Gareth]

This worked great thanks and also a big thanks to you Timothy for your post
:-)

Awesome,
G.

-Original Message-
From: Angus D Madden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 22 March 2002 2:20 p.m.
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Installation of JDK


Lawrence, Gareth, Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 01:25:28PM +1200: 
> Greetings All,
> 
> having major troubles installing JDK on Debian - any suggestions would be
> appreciated.  
> 
> The error message I get is
> 
> "Error: failed /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so, because
> libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory"
> 
> I used alien to concert the jdk1.4 file to deb and then used the depackage
> function so all should be well - let me know if you need more information.
> I also apt-get installed libstdc and libc6 and that didn't help.  
> 

$ dpkg -S libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1: /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

apt-get install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1


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Re: fstab mounted windows shares

[Matthew Dalton]

curtis wrote:
> 
> Question:
> 
> In order to mount at boot windows shares I have the following fstab entry:
> 
> //Server/sharename/home/Serversharesmb
> username=user,password=password12

[cut]
 
> Surely there is a way to not have to enter my username and password in
> the fstab. Or is there?

I'd bypass fstab completely and mount the shares with a script (say with
something in /etc/init.d, or possibly /etc/rc.boot), because then you
could keep your password in an encrypted file (encrypted with gpg or
similar) and have the script decrypt it when the password is required
(ie. when the script runs smbmount).

It's not as clean as using fstab, for instance you won't be able to do
'mount /home/Servershare' and have it just work... but if you never
umount/remount it manually anyway, why would it matter?


Matthew

Worked around (was Re: libnss-ldap & woody & openssh, disconnect after login)

[nate]

> minor update, I have since tried to recompile OpenSSH 1.2.3(from potato),
> OpenSSH 3.0.1 and OpenSSH 3.0.2(from woody) with/without pam and
> with/without md5 passwords and the result is the same, the server
> segfaults everytime.

i worked around it. seems this bug in SSH is only tickled when
I use SSL/TLS with libnss-ldap. once i recompiled libnss-ldap
without SSL/TLS and reconfigured it to not use SSL/TLS in
the config file ssh no longer segfaulted ..

nate

Packages providing a daemon/service and configuration

[Vincent Lefevre]

Most (all?) packages providing a daemon or other service will start
it when installed, without asking the user first. Is there a reason?
I often want to have such services ready for use (with documentation
and configuration files), but not started immediately, i.e. not
running by default.

One example is that I chose the dial-up packages when installing
Debian for the first time (I *sometimes* use PPP). The problem is
that it automatically tried to start ISDN (though I don't use that)
the next time I rebooted and my Ethernet connection was lost!

Another example is the telnet daemon, which was started automatically
though I don't want to run it permanently (I want to choose, depending
on the netenv configuration).

A third example (again after the first-time installation): I had
to choose between gdm and kdm, without being able to choose none
of them. As X wasn't configured yet, I couldn't do anything and
had to boot in single user to remove these packages.

-- 
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validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International
des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc.
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA

Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?

[Matt Garman]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 06:27:20PM -0500, William T Wilson wrote:
> I can't think of a reason why you *wouldn't* want to use cdparanoia.
> I have even been able to extract good (not perfect but good) audio
> from CD's that my regular CD-player wouldn't play.

Similar story here: my roommate had a CD that skipped and stuttered
pretty badly on a few tracks (the cd had some awful scratches).  I
made a copy of the cd for him using cdparanoia.  The copy wasn't
perfect, but there were no skips or stutters, only a few subtle
"static"-like sounds in places where the original cd was most damaged.

As someone already said, the only real downside to cdparanoia is that
it takes longer due to the analysis it performs on data.  If you have
a fast machine, you probably won't notice too much.

Good luck,
Matt

-- 
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``I ain't never seen no whiskey, the blues made my sloppy drunk!''
-- Sleepy John Estes, ``Leaving Trunk''

Re: Desperately trying to understand dselect (seeming inconsistency)

[Russ Pitman]

-snip- 
> It's a long-standing bug in dselect, and has been fixed in CVS. The fix
> didn't make it in time for woody, but will be in dpkg 1.10 in woody+1.
> 
> -- 
> Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-snip-

And sometime soon in unstable ?
-- 
russ

Dual boot default and Compatibility

[John Lynch]

Hello all,

Well, I've partitioned my harddrive with Partition Magic.
And I am currently downloading Mandrake GNU/Linux, because of everyone's 
advice.


NOW I know this is for DEBIAN GNU/Linux BUT I have to ask in here (because I 
don't want to be added to yet another mailing list) and I figure someone 
might know seeings how everyone kept telling me to get Mandrake GNU/Linux.



Does anyone know how to create a dual boot system with Mandrake GNU/Linux 
and Windows XP, with Windows XP being the system that boots up as the 
default OS making it so the computer will AUTOMATICALLY run Windows XP 
unless I tell it to run Mandrake?


ALSO

Is Debian software (such as abbiword) compatible with Mandrake GNU/Linux and 
vice versa?


in fact is ALL Linux software compatible with the different OS's of Linux?

Thanks once again for helping me with my questions.

John

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Re: Time Zone

[Billy Sneed]

Run tzconfig.

Comes in libc6 I believe.

billy

Eduardo Gargiulo wrote:
> Hi all ...
> 
> i live in Argentina, but my system clock shows Thu Mar 21 23:44:30 EST 2002
> 
> how can i change it to ART instead of EST?
> 
> TIA
> 
> ~ejg



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Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?

[dave mallery]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> 
> > >Cdparanoia suggests using the SCSI-over-IDE functionality in the kernel to
> > >improve its performance, but I find that it works quite well with the
> > >plain IDE driver even in the 2.2 kernel.
> >
> > Would you then use LAME to convert to MP3?
> 
> gogo!

have you looked at grip (gnome)?

it fronts the whole deal and gives you choices...

imho, you should use oggenc and go to ogg vorbis cuz it's free and good!

dave mallery


no gates .~.
  no windows...  /V\
/( )\
running GNU/Linux   ^^-^^  (Linux TM Linus Torvalds)
  free at last!

Re: Installation of JDK

[timothy bauscher]

> The error message I get is
>
> "Error: failed /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so,
> because
> libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file
> or
> directory"

as root:

cd /usr/lib/
ls libstdc++* | grep so

For me this brings up:

libstdc++-3-libc6.1-2-2.10.0.so
libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
libstdc++.so.3
libstdc++.so.3.0.2

I had the same problem, so i linked
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 ->
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3

I use woody. I think that on Potato i
had to link to *libc6.1-2.so.2 though.

In any case, link them like this:

ln -s lib_WHATEVER_looks_closest libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

Hope that helps. I am sure someone else
has already replied -- but i haven't
seen anything yet because this list is so
slow.

(==timothy==)

Time Zone

[Eduardo Gargiulo]

Hi all ...

i live in Argentina, but my system clock shows Thu Mar 21 23:44:30 EST 2002

how can i change it to ART instead of EST?

TIA

~ejg


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Re: fstab mounted windows shares

[Tom Cook]

On  0, curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Question:
> 
> In order to mount at boot windows shares I have the following fstab entry:
> 
> //Server/sharename/home/Serversharesmb
> username=user,password=password12
> 
> In order for this to work, of course, the username and password are in 
> my case, my Domain Username and Password.  These are entered in the 
> fstab in plain text.
> 
> The problems are evident.
> 1. There is the issue of safety.
> My password is basically available in text format.
> 
> 2. There is the issue of password changes.
> We have an policy whereby everyone must change their password every 4 
> months, which would mean going in and having to change this every 4 
> months as well.
> 
> Surely there is a way to not have to enter my username and password in 
> the fstab. Or is there?

I'm not so sure.  The way 'doze does it is to store your samba
password hash in the registry.  Anyone with that hash can access any
of your windows resources...

Mmmm, security as it should (not) be...

Tom
-- 
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Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide

"That you're not paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you."
- Robert Waldner

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Re: Installation of JDK

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 01:25:28PM +1200, Lawrence, Gareth wrote:
> "Error: failed /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so, because
> libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory"

See http://packages.debian.org/, under "Search the contents of
packages". You need to install the libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 package.

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Desperately trying to understand dselect (seeming inconsistency)

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 02:51:40PM -0500, Michael Marziani wrote:
> You didn't really answer my question at all.  I know I can 'Q', and 'X'
> to get out of the dependency screen, I am wondering why dselect cares so
> much about a 'recommend' that it traps me in a dependency screen loop
> just because I don't want to take its 'recommendation'.
> 
> So does recommend = require or what?  I am just a tad confused, AFTER
> reading all the docs I could find.

It's a long-standing bug in dselect, and has been fixed in CVS. The fix
didn't make it in time for woody, but will be in dpkg 1.10 in woody+1.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dosemu: com port problem partially solved

[Cheryl Homiak]

Ok, here's the problem in one sentence.
"Need to be suid root to create lock files!
Only I thought being in the dialout group got me around this in linux, but
apparently not in dosemu. Is there a solution to this?
TIA.

Re: Installation of JDK

[Angus D Madden]

Lawrence, Gareth, Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 01:25:28PM +1200: 
> Greetings All,
> 
> having major troubles installing JDK on Debian - any suggestions would be
> appreciated.  
> 
> The error message I get is
> 
> "Error: failed /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so, because
> libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory"
> 
> I used alien to concert the jdk1.4 file to deb and then used the depackage
> function so all should be well - let me know if you need more information.
> I also apt-get installed libstdc and libc6 and that didn't help.  
> 

$ dpkg -S libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1: /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

apt-get install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1


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Re: Gnome menus, where is config stored?

[Angus D Madden]

stan, Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 07:06:48PM -0500: 
> I have a woody machine that no longer offers me the choice of adding the
> gdict applet to my panles.
> 
> I've deleted and readded the gdict package, but that did not fix it.
> 
> So, I thought I'd go take a look at the configs, mmyself. Where are they
> stored? In what format? 
> 

System-wide GNOME menus are stored in /usr/share/gnome/apps.  The format
is .desktop, transparent and open to inspection.

User GNOME menus are stored in ~/.gnome/apps/

Debian menus are stored in /usr/lib/menu

> And BTW what's the name of the gdict applet?
> 

'apt-cache search gdict' gives 
gnome-utils - Gnome Utilities (gtt, gsearchtool, and more)
gdict - small GTK app to retrieve definitions from MIT's dictionary
server

gnome-utils is in stable/testing/unstable, gdict is in stable.

On my system the gdict applet is located at Applet->Utility->GDict

The relevant menu file is usr/share/applets/Utility/gdict.desktop

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Re: mutt + smtp authentication

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 03:29:26PM -0800, Dave Scott wrote:
> I too would like to know how to get through this SMTP auth fieasco, I
> have spent much time and got no where.
> 
> So basically, I am still going to try the article, but
> 
> 1) is there a Debian package with the SASL support for Postfix out there
> that I can install?

Yes, in woody.
Check out sasl-bin, libsasl-modules-plain, libsasl-*, postfix-tls

Exim does that, too.

Both have it all described in the documentation, but I don't remember
exactly where...

> 2) is there an easier solution, other than telling the laptop clients to
> use the smtp server they are dialed into?

I don't know.

> 3) are the passwords with SASL support sent in clear text?

They may or may not be sent in cleartext. You may use tls (postfix-tls,
exim-tls), which is a very nice thing, IMHO.

J.

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Re: Kerberos

[David Z Maze]

dinni bartholomew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am having some trouble building kerberos from the
> source ... i keep getting 
> *** [all-recurse] Error 1
> errors when i try to run make...

Which Kerberos?  There are three in Debian (KTH krb4, MIT krb5,
Heimdal krb5), plus the MIT krb4 distribution, plus several others.
Why are you trying to build from source?  (What's the real goal here?
Just "building Kerberos from source" won't get you a whole lot beyond
tickets, Kerberized rsh and telnet, kadmin, and a KDC.)  Which version
of Debian?  (Testing/unstable have a couple more apps with Kerberos
support built in.)  What's the actual error message you're getting
(it'll be a couple of lines before the end of the make output)?

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Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?

[DvB]

Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
> cdda2wav and cdparanoia both run fine to extract the tracks of a CD-audio
> what is the advantage to use one rather than another ?
> TIA for an advice.  
> 

IIRC, cdparanoia is based on cdda2wav and is currently being maintained,
whereas cdda2wav hasn't seen any significant development for quite a
while.

Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?

[Jeremy Gaddis]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:

> >Cdparanoia suggests using the SCSI-over-IDE functionality in the kernel to
> >improve its performance, but I find that it works quite well with the
> >plain IDE driver even in the 2.2 kernel.
>
> Would you then use LAME to convert to MP3?

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Installation of JDK

[Lawrence, Gareth]

Greetings All,

having major troubles installing JDK on Debian - any suggestions would be
appreciated.  

The error message I get is

"Error: failed /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so, because
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory"

I used alien to concert the jdk1.4 file to deb and then used the depackage
function so all should be well - let me know if you need more information.
I also apt-get installed libstdc and libc6 and that didn't help.  

Thanx heaps,
Gareth

fstab mounted windows shares

[curtis]

Question:

In order to mount at boot windows shares I have the following fstab entry:

//Server/sharename/home/Serversharesmb
username=user,password=password12


In order for this to work, of course, the username and password are in 
my case, my Domain Username and Password.  These are entered in the 
fstab in plain text.


The problems are evident.
1. There is the issue of safety.
My password is basically available in text format.

2. There is the issue of password changes.
We have an policy whereby everyone must change their password every 4 
months, which would mean going in and having to change this every 4 
months as well.


Surely there is a way to not have to enter my username and password in 
the fstab. Or is there?


Thanks for any feedback.

Curtis

Re: xterm defaults

[Gerard Robin]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 07:01:52PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> how can I change the default colors for xterm?. I need that the command 
> "xterm" open a xterminal with the desired colors, instead using "xterm -bg 
> color", for example. I didn't find this information in the man pages.

/usr/share/doc/xterm/xterm.faq.html
hth. 
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Re: sound question

[Nick Hastings]

Hi,

* Malte Thoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020322 10:57]:
> Hallo,
>
> can anybody tell me, how to set up the soundsystem of my laptop?
> I have tryed severalthings, but without success :-(
>
> I've got:
> Kernel 2.4.18
>
> lspci says:
> 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC97 Audio
> Controller (rev 50)

Do you have the appropriate driver in your kernel? Is you 2.4.18 kernel a
stock Debian one, or did you compile it yourself? If it is a Debian kernel,
then I guess it will be compiled as a module.

As root:

# modconf

Select

/kernel/drivers/sound

Then scroll to see if the driver is there. If it is load it.

If it is not there, you will have to compile a new kernel. Enjoy ;-)
>
> I would like to use alsa, but haven't found a dokumentation.
> I tryed alsaconf, but at the end it's not possible to detect the
> soundcard, could be a problem of diffferent versions?

Sorry don't know about ALSA. But I guess that making sure you have the
driver for your card will be the first step.

Cheers,

Nick.

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Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?

[Matthew Daubenspeck]

At 06:27 PM 3/21/2002, you wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Gerard Robin wrote:

> cdda2wav and cdparanoia both run fine to extract the tracks of a
> CD-audio what is the advantage to use one rather than another ? TIA
> for an advice.

I can't think of a reason why you *wouldn't* want to use cdparanoia.  I
have even been able to extract good (not perfect but good) audio from CD's
that my regular CD-player wouldn't play.

The last time I used cdda2wav, which was admittedly a few years ago, it
worked great with certain models of CD-ROM drive that behaved well for
purposes of audio extraction, but for many other models (including mine)
it was not very accurate.  Cdparanoia works well on almost anything.

Cdparanoia suggests using the SCSI-over-IDE functionality in the kernel to
improve its performance, but I find that it works quite well with the
plain IDE driver even in the 2.2 kernel.


Would you then use LAME to convert to MP3?

Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?

[dave mallery]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Gerard Robin wrote:

> Hello,
> cdda2wav and cdparanoia both run fine to extract the tracks of a CD-audio
> what is the advantage to use one rather than another ?
> TIA for an advice.  
> 
paranoia is much more paranoid about quality, scratches, and jitter.
also much slower... but worth it

dave 

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[FIXED] Mutt displays my message index all wrong

[Tom Cook]

Hi all,

a week or so ago I was complaining that mutt displayed messages on the
wrong line in the message index when accessing an IMAP server.

FYI this problem has been fixed by upgrading to woody (and the new
mutt, presumably).

Thanks to those who offered help,
Tom
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Re: make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 1

[Alan James]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 03:11:47PM -0800, justin cunningham wrote:
> Hello, I am trying to compile a custom 2.4.18 kernel and keep getting
> this error:
> 
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/arch/i386/boot'
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18'
> touch stamp-build
> need root priviledges
> make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 1
> 
> I don't understand-- 'stamp-build' is owned by the user justin who is
> logged in and compiling.  What am/have I done incorrectly?  Oh, and yes
> there is not a d in privileges-- that is a cut/paste of the output.
> 

You are in or below the /usr/src/ directory, justin doesnt have permission to 
write there. Become root by running "su" and then things will work.

Nice catch on the spelling error though :)

Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
Gerard Robin wrote on Thu Mar 21, 2002 um 10:47:20PM:
> Hello,
> cdda2wav and cdparanoia both run fine to extract the tracks of a CD-audio
> what is the advantage to use one rather than another ?
> TIA for an advice.  

RTFM

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Gnome menus, where is config stored?

[stan]

I have a woody machine that no longer offers me the choice of adding the
gdict applet to my panles.

I've deleted and readded the gdict package, but that did not fix it.

So, I thought I'd go take a look at the configs, mmyself. Where are they
stored? In what format? 

And BTW what's the name of the gdict applet?

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Sound works, but not for Gnome

[stan]

I have a woody machine with sound working for things like mp4blaster,
xwatv, etc.

However, even though I have "use sound" check in Gonems configuratior, I'm
not geting it's sounds.

Sugestiosn

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Re: libnss-ldap & woody & openssh, disconnect after login

[nate]

> this is odd.
>
> I have been deploying LDAP at my company recently, and started going a
> bit deeper, this time on a woody machine trying to get libnss-ldap and
> libpam-ldap on a woody system.

minor update, I have since tried to recompile OpenSSH 1.2.3(from potato),
OpenSSH 3.0.1 and OpenSSH 3.0.2(from woody) with/without pam and with/without
md5 passwords and the result is the same, the server segfaults everytime.

telnet works fine and this works fine on potato. ..


nate

Re: cdrw

[dave mallery]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, jeff wrote:

> hello folks...
> 
> i'm trying to get my cdwriter to be recognized under 
> debian...
> 
> seems like i can mount the /cdrom no prob...
> 
> any pointers on how to create a device for the writer? it 
> seems to detect it ok at boot but i can't mount the 
> sucker...

the test is cdparanoia -Qsv for a thorough scan.

i am stuck in the middle of the same problem right now
mine is a scsi r/w drive and the setup in /dev is
/dev/cdrom -> /dev/sr0 -> /dev/scd0.

on an adjacent r/h machine, the working setup is:
/dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0 and cdparanoia announces that the generic device 
is /dev/sg1 which is nowhere in the chain!

cdparanoia needs the generic device apparantly.

all help/pointers appreciated!

dave



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Re: No puedo bootear Debian.

[Daniel Toffetti]

> On Wednesday 31 December 1969 21:00, Daniel wrote:

Yes, this is strange, I see a different date here... can somebody 
explain why ?

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Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?

[William T Wilson]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Gerard Robin wrote:

> cdda2wav and cdparanoia both run fine to extract the tracks of a
> CD-audio what is the advantage to use one rather than another ? TIA
> for an advice.

I can't think of a reason why you *wouldn't* want to use cdparanoia.  I
have even been able to extract good (not perfect but good) audio from CD's
that my regular CD-player wouldn't play.

The last time I used cdda2wav, which was admittedly a few years ago, it
worked great with certain models of CD-ROM drive that behaved well for
purposes of audio extraction, but for many other models (including mine)
it was not very accurate.  Cdparanoia works well on almost anything.

Cdparanoia suggests using the SCSI-over-IDE functionality in the kernel to
improve its performance, but I find that it works quite well with the
plain IDE driver even in the 2.2 kernel.

RE: mutt + smtp authentication

[Dave Scott]

I too would like to know how to get through this SMTP auth fieasco, I
have spent much time and got no where.

So basically, I am still going to try the article, but

1) is there a Debian package with the SASL support for Postfix out there
that I can install?

2) is there an easier solution, other than telling the laptop clients to
use the smtp server they are dialed into?

3) are the passwords with SASL support sent in clear text?



Thanks

-Dave

-Original Message-
From: Alan James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:27 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: mutt + smtp authentication

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:34:33AM -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:

> > Hmmm   I feel sure that when I tried this a couple of years ago I
ran into
> > the DUL list - many e-mails bounced because I wasn't registered with
> > them. Has that problem gone away?
>  
> No, it didn't go away... I tried to send a message to a friend who
> works at Yahoo!, and it bounced... So I set up SMTP authentication.
> 

I can see how that could be a problem. I'm lucky enough that my isp has
not listed inself in the DUL list. Not being on dialup might help too.


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Re: No puedo bootear Debian.

[Daniel Toffetti]

Hola Daniel !

En esta lista solamente se esribe en inglés, si quieres escribir en 
español intenta en la lista [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Hola quisiera saber si alguien ha instalado, Debian Potato o Woody
> en un PPC o iMac, ya que yo no lo he conseguido tengo un iMac con las
> siguientes caracteristicas:
> Powerpc
> Apple iMac a 350 MHZ
> Open Firmwire 4.1.9
> 320 Mb de memoria
> 9.5 Gb Disco duro

Bueno, además de la lista en español, creo que hay además una lista 
para usuarios de PowerPC, deberías intentarlo tambien en esa lista. 
Puedes buscar la dirección correcta de esa lista en www.debian.org, en 
la sección Mailing Lists, yo ahora no la recuerdo.
Mucha suerte !

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kernel compile will not stop

[p]

debs,

i'm trying to compile a kernel, but it will not 
stop compiling.  


compile method:  
---

the debian way --

1) make meunconfig

2) make-kpkg clean 

3) make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image



kernel:  
---

2.4.0  (i know, it's old, but it works
on one of my other boxen.)


hardware: 
-

gen2 laptop from http://www.qlilinux.com 

2ghz, p4; 1g ram;...


what puts a compile in a loop?

suggestions?

thx.

b.

// 

kernel compile complaint make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 1

[justin cunningham]

Sorry, this is an up-to-date woody box with ii  kernel-package 7.99.
justin

make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 1

[justin cunningham]

Hello, I am trying to compile a custom 2.4.18 kernel and keep getting
this error:

make[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/arch/i386/boot'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18'
touch stamp-build
need root priviledges
make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 1

I don't understand-- 'stamp-build' is owned by the user justin who is
logged in and compiling.  What am/have I done incorrectly?  Oh, and yes
there is not a d in privileges-- that is a cut/paste of the output.

I'm following these walkthroughs

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO-5.html

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.en.html#MAKE-KERNEL-P
KG

thanks, justin

Re: REMOVE ME FROM ALL MAIL LISTS

[John Lord]

Hi Paul

On 17-Mar-02, you wrote:

>> ATM I have to d/l mails on one side of my system, forward the
>> interesting ones to my Debian side. Then boot into Debian to
>> continue. If someone could tell us why it is so hard to do a simple
>> sub/unsub, or correct this I would be very gratefull.


> On another list, I had to configure my mail client's 'From:' header to
> my *old* address. This way when I replied to the 'confirm cancel', the
> list server could verify my identity.

I see what you mean so will give it a try.

> Don't know if that'll work on this list or not. Hope this helps.

Cheers.

Regards
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RE: [OT] Redefinition of Black Market [was Re: Screen-free Linux?]

[Brooks R. Robinson]

| > If you sell me a piece of kit you very legally own, and I pay you in
| > cash, that's black market : no trace, no taxes paid. The property traded
| > is not necessarily illegal, it's just that the transaction is not
| > visible to the State.
|
| Am I a business, or just a regular Joe?
|
| If I'm a business, then yes, that's the black market.  If I
| just sell you my old PC, then that's the perfectly legal (at
| least in the USA) secondary market.  Of course, if I make a
| habit of buying and selling used kit, then, yes, I would be
| engaging in commerce, and then must either register with the
| state and collect taxes, or enter the black market.

To give a U.S. Tax point of view... According to IRS guidelines, if you make
a profit on the transaction (any transaction, in business or private citizen
trading with my neighbor), you owe income tax on that transaction.  Now
then, determining the amount or profit could be problematic (Let's just not
go there).  The IRS wants their share no matter what.  However, they cannot
enforce what they do not see, so cash is usually a way to get by.  If you
engage in a large cash business, most people get "caught" by depositing said
cash into banks, which is very traceable.  It's not to difficult to observe
an individual and determine expenditure patterns based upon lifestyle, infer
an income, and determine whether tax has been avoided.

My $0.02,

Brooks

Re: No puedo bootear Debian.

[Seneca Cunningham]

Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: No puedo bootear Debian.
> > Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 01:00:41 -0600
>
> Ok, a few hours delay in delivering messages is understandable, but
this is a > bit much.

No wonder the subject seems to mean that debian cannot boot. My systems
can't even _pretend_ to be that old, my oldest's BIOS only goes back to
1980, (a 286), and it can't boot debian. If a circa 1980s system cannot
boot debian with 640k RAM, then how can the Analytical Engine (the only
computer-relative I can think of that is that old) be expected to.

Seneca
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Window Manager Probs *sigh*

[dave mallery]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, SJ wrote:

> I'm really not sure what I did wrong, but...
> 
> After doing an apparently clean install of debian linux on a
> new system, Gnome does not come up Window Maker does.  I
> know we installed Gnome but it's not even in the list of
> Window Managers to switch to (actually only Window Maker is
> listed there).  Any idea what I may have done wrong, or not
> done, in setting up the system?  I would really like to get
> this monster working.  I have a db development project I
> should be working on and I can't do that until I get the
> system up.
> 
> I sincerly hope this is making some sense, if not blame the
> time. *sigh*
> 
i had the exact same thing after installing potato..2.2r5.

i broke out by: apt-get install enlightenment.  then i had a usable system 
which i almost immediately upgraded to "testing" (woody) and got all the 
ximian stuff with the upgrade... worlds of difference.

dave

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gnome fonts vs ximian fonts

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hi,

why the ximian-gnome fonts look more sharp than the gnome fonts shipped with 
woody?

TIA
Marcelo

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xterm defaults

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hello,

how can I change the default colors for xterm?. I need that the command 
"xterm" open a xterminal with the desired colors, instead using "xterm -bg 
color", for example. I didn't find this information in the man pages.

Thank you

Marcelo
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Re: kernel panic

[Mark Janssen]

On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 21:42, Pier wrote:
> My kenel (2.4.18) panic.
> Request_module[block-major-3]:Root fs not mounted
> VFS:Cannot open root device "301" or 03:01
> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> Kernel panic:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on 03:01
> 
> I'm afraid that (as I read it) 
> the problem comes from my mother board which is a K7S5A 
> (Duron 1GH) and seems to have trouble with memory 
> that cause file corruption. But kernel 2.2 is ok.

Nope that's not it...

This message tells you that the kernel cannot find the root partition.
This can be because it is f**ked up, or because the kernel is just
looking in the wrong place. Since we'll assume all is well, and your
drive still works, you need to tell the kernel where to find the root
disk/partition.

On the lilo prompt enter what You usually enter (linux, or whatever) and
after it type: 'root=/dev/hdx#' which x# replaced by the correct drive
and partition number (Primary master = hda, slave=hdb, secondary master
hdc, slave=hdd, scsi's sda-sd?. Partitions are numbered from 1)

WHen you find the correct one, linux should continue booting. After
getting it up and running fix your lilo (or grub) configfile and
reinstall lilo.

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Re:rw

[Gerard Robin]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 12:20:50PM -0500, jeff wrote:
> hello folks...
> 
> i'm trying to get my cdwriter to be recognized under 
> debian...
 
> seems like i can mount the /cdrom no prob...
 
> any pointers on how to create a device for the writer? it 
> seems to detect it ok at boot but i can't mount the 
> sucker...

if your CD-writer is ide you need:

1. the modules sg and ide-scsi installed in the kernel 
   (with modconf or insmod)

2. the packages:  cdrecord  mkisofs
   for the CD-audio cdda2wav or cdparanoia

3. into lilo add this line:

append = "apm=on apm=power-of idebas=33 hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi 
max_scsi_luns=1"

don't forget to do  /sbin/lilo 

4. create the directory /cdrw

5. into the file fstab:

/dev/scd0 /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0

/dev/scd1 /cdrw iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0

6.create the synbolic link:

ln -s /dev/hdc  /dev/cdrom

ln -s /dev/hdd  /dev/cdrw

7. do cdrecord -scanbus   to verify ...

man  cdrecord mkisofs cdda2wav cdparanoia

hth.

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cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?

[Gerard Robin]

Hello,
cdda2wav and cdparanoia both run fine to extract the tracks of a CD-audio
what is the advantage to use one rather than another ?
TIA for an advice.  

-- 
Gerard

ftp behaving strangely

[Jason Stechschulte]

We have a server that has been running ftpd for quite a while now.  This
week for some reason we can only ftp to it using passive mode.  If we
try to access it without using passive mode we get this:

ftp> ls
200 PORT command successful.
425 Can't create data socket (X.X.X.X,20): Address already in use.

Address censored.

I thought the only reason you would need to run passive mode is if you are
behind a firewall, but the machines using this ftp server are on the
same network with no firewall in between.  This machine only has a few
months to live, but we really need to be able to ftp without using
passive mode.  Also I'm wondering if maybe someone hacked it since
everyone I've asked has said they made no changes to the server or our
network.  If someone can point me in the right direction, to the right
reading material, or whatever I would really appreciate it.
-- 
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Re: No puedo bootear Debian.

[Bill Moseley]

> From: Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: No puedo bootear Debian.
> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 01:00:41 -0600

Ok, a few hours delay in delivering messages is understandable, but this is a 
bit much.


-- 
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Kerberos

[dinni bartholomew]

I am having some trouble building kerberos from the
source ... i keep getting 
*** [all-recurse] Error 1
errors when i try to run make...

Please advise

Re: (hard drive not recognized)

[Sebastiaan]

High,

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, egemen wrote:

> Hi,
> I have problem with my Caleb it 144 MB UHD drive,
>
> my comp. did not recognize the drive
> Can you help me?
>
Seems like a pretty old drive. Are you sure the drive still works?

So you can't get your BIOS to recognize your drive. Does your BIOS have an
auto detection option for harddisks? Does the drive provide any
information about it's geometry, i.e. heads, cylinders etc. Is the drive
the only one in your computer? Are the jumpers set correctly? Is the drive
correctly connected to the cable? Is the cable correctly connected to the
motherboard? If it is an IO card, is the card working correctly? Is the
cable ok? Does the drive get powered up? What error message do you get? Is
it an IDE or SCSI drive?

You see, there is lots to check. Which ones have you already checked?
Of which ones are you really sure?

Greetz,
Sebastiaan

Re: KDE problem

[Corrin Lakeland]

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 03:11, Wim Uyttebroek wrote:
> KDE won 't launch anymore, it stops with Initializing
> System Services...
> Gnome does work !

Hello.

Probably thh problem is that KDE crashed and left behind some files in /tmp 
(/tmp/dcop* to be precise). Until these files are deleted KDE will not start.

But this is just guessing.  To find out, log in as failsafe and type startkde.  
you will see exactly where the problem occurs

Corrin

Re: Desperately trying to understand dselect (seeming inconsistency)

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Karsten M. Self  quotation:

> Otherwise, aptitude's interface is a vast, vast improvement over
> dselect.  I still occasionally drop into dselect, but do most of my
> package selection from the command line with 'apt-get install foo'.

I tend to use dselect for most things. For my daily Sid update, I like
the way dselect sorts all the new and updated packages to the top so I
can easily look over them before telling it to go ahead, and I like
being able to interactively work out any dependency problems before
letting it invoke apt.

dselect's UI is kind of odd, and the "recommends means depends" bug is
occasionally annoying, but overall I find it preferable to aptitude,
stormpkg, or any of the other things that are supposed to be newer and
better.

Craig


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Re: dosemu: com port problem partially solved

[Herbert Xu]

Cheryl Homiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I discovered that my com ports work as root, but I'm not sure how to get 
> access
> myself. My ttySx are currently set for root and dialout, and this isn't a
> problem in linux since i am a member of dialout. However, I have tried 
> resetting
> permissions to 666 and even 1777 and this doesn't seem to help me use my com
> ports in dosemu. Any suggestions?
> By the way, I'm not sure if this mattered or not, but I did change the speaker
> line in the dosemu.conf to "emulated" also.

Try running dosemu with -D+a -o file to see what the problem is.
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kernel panic

[Pier]

My kenel (2.4.18) panic.

the boot message is :

Request_module[block-major-3]:Root fs not mounted
VFS:Cannot open root device "301" or 03:01
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on 03:01

I'm afraid that (as I read it) 
the problem comes from my mother board which is a K7S5A 
(Duron 1GH) and seems to have trouble with memory 
that cause file corruption. But kernel 2.2 is ok.

RE:

[Drew M Levitt]

GET A 
NEW HARD DRIVE... THE CURRENT MODEL IS A 120GB not 144Mb
 
:)
 
have a 
nice day

  -Original Message-From: egemen 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:17 
  PMTo: debian-user@lists.debian.orgSubject: 
  
      Hi, 
      I have problem with my Caleb 
  it 144 MB UHD drive,
   
      my comp. did not recognize the 
  drive
      Can you help me?
   
      Best Regards,
      
  Ismail

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Re: dosemu: com port problem partially solved

[Alan James]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:00:25AM -0600, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> Hi Phil and list!
> I discovered that my com ports work as root, but I'm not sure how to get 
> access
> myself. My ttySx are currently set for root and dialout, and this isn't a
> problem in linux since i am a member of dialout. However, I have tried 
> resetting
> permissions to 666 and even 1777 and this doesn't seem to help me use my com
> ports in dosemu. Any suggestions?

Is dosemu a setuid binary by any chance ? does it run as some user other than 
yourself ? Is dosemu supposed to work with serial ports at all ?

Alan

Re: ncurses HeLP

[Alan James]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 10:08:48AM -0600, Ronneil Camara wrote:
> 
> And also, I am doing the traditional way of compiling the kernel, make 
> menuconfig, make dep clean modules_install bzImage
> 
> Will this work on debian?

It'll work but you might find it easier to: 

make menuconfig
make-kpkg kernel-image

Install the package kernel-package do to that. It creates a .deb file 
containing the kernel and modules etc. dpkg -i  to install.

It'll do the lilo stuff for you too, and you'll never forget any of the
steps either..

Alan.

Unidentified subject!

[yufufi]

 Hi,

It's been 3 months since I've been using only linux on
my pc and only problem left with is using turkish
fonts. I tried lots of things but I have nothing! (for
X)

The doc on www.linuxdoc.org is for red-hat distro
which actually doesn't work for red-hat 7.1 & 7.2 at
all. I think it is very old.

It would be great if someone help me with this font
thing.

Here is some info about my system and things I tried.

OS : debian woody (up to date)


output of

$LC_CTYPE=tr_TR locale charmap
ANSI_X3.4-1968

$locale
LANG=en_US
LC_CTYPE=tr_TR
LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
LC_TIME="en_US"
LC_COLLATE="en_US"
LC_MONETARY="en_US"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
LC_PAPER="en_US"
LC_NAME="en_US"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
LC_ALL=

#localedef -ci tr_TR -f iso8859-9 tr_TR
debian:/usr/share/i18n/locales# localedef -ci tr_TR -f
iso8859-9 tr_TR
tr_TR:31: LC_IDENTIFICATION: unknown character in
field `address'
tr_TR:3430: LC_MESSAGES: unknown character in field
`nostr'
tr_TR:3459: LC_TIME: unknown character in field
`abday'
tr_TR:3459: LC_TIME: unknown character in field
`abday'
tr_TR:3462: LC_TIME: unknown character in field `day'
tr_TR:3463: LC_TIME: unknown character in field `day'
tr_TR:3464: LC_TIME: unknown character in field `day'
tr_TR:3467: LC_TIME: unknown character in field
`abmon'
tr_TR:3470: LC_TIME: unknown character in field
`abmon'
tr_TR:3474: LC_TIME: unknown character in field `mon'
tr_TR:3477: LC_TIME: unknown character in field `mon'
tr_TR:3480: LC_TIME: unknown character in field `mon'
tr_TR:3481: LC_TIME: unknown character in field `mon'
tr_TR:3483: LC_TIME: unknown character in field `mon'
tr_TR:3484: LC_TIME: unknown character in field `mon'
tr_TR:3489: LC_TIME: unknown character in field
`am_pm'
tr_TR:3489: LC_TIME: unknown character in field
`am_pm'
tr_TR:3517: LC_NAME: unknown character in field
`name_gen'
tr_TR:1175: symbol `U0131' not defined
Segmentation fault

--> I deleted the lines which it complains about... (
I deleted the whole LC_TIME part)
#localedef -ci tr_TR -f iso8859-9 tr_TR

No definition for LC_TIME category found


***
I installed all the fonts including transcoded fonts.

I am using fonty to handle fonts out of X. (they are
ok)

my XF86Config-4 file is attached

when I press dotless i, or other turkish fonts nothing
happens, just like I don't press anything..


Thanx a lot

Furkan Fidan




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[no subject]

[egemen]

    Hi,
    I have problem with my Caleb it 
144 MB UHD drive,
 
    my comp. did not recognize the 
drive
    Can you help me?
 
    Best Regards,
    
Ismail

RE: Desperately trying to understand dselect (seeming inconsistency)

[Michael Marziani]

You didn't really answer my question at all.  I know I can 'Q', and 'X'
to get out of the dependency screen, I am wondering why dselect cares so
much about a 'recommend' that it traps me in a dependency screen loop
just because I don't want to take its 'recommendation'.

So does recommend = require or what?  I am just a tad confused, AFTER
reading all the docs I could find.

-Michael


-Original Message-
From: Karsten M. Self [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:23 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Desperately trying to understand dselect (seeming
inconsistency)


on Thu, Mar 21, 2002, Michael Marziani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I finally took the dselect plunge.  Aptitude is far easier, but I 
> heard dselect can be more effective once it's mastered.

The primary difference:  dselect walks you through package "recommends"
options.  Generally, once you've got a system up and running, you don't
particularly need to worry about these, though you may want to manually
check packages down the road for any significant recommends listings
(use apt-cache for this).

Otherwise, aptitude's interface is a vast, vast improvement over
dselect.  I still occasionally drop into dselect, but do most of my
package selection from the command line with 'apt-get install foo'.

> Ok..  For some strange reason dselect had a bunch of crap selected 
> that I have no idea where it came from when I first entered dselect 
> after a brand new minimum install.  So I'm trying to un-select it all 
> (D didn't work because it was previously selected), but when I try to 
> un-select something that recommends another package, it won't let me 
> unless I remove the other package, which in some cases is something I 
> already have installed.

These are generally deps.

> Here's an example.  I have vim installed.  When I started dselect, it 
> had vim-rt selected (but not installed).  So when I try to un-select 
> vim-rt, I get a dependency resolution screen that looks like:
> 
> EIOM Pri Section  Package  Description
>   *- Opt editors  vim-rt   Vi IMproved - runtime support files
>  **- Opt editors  vim  Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor
> 
> Well I want to keep vim, so I do a + on it, and hit enter, well then I

> get another dependency resolution screen:
> 
> EIOM Pri Section  Package  Description
>   -* Opt editors  vim-rt   Vi IMproved - runtime support files
>  *** Opt editors  vim  Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor
> 
> But I don't want vim-rt, so I - it, and hit enter, and I get the same 
> screen again.  What's the deal here?

RTFHS [1].  You want 'Q' to override suggestions and quit.  'D' will set
all options to directly requested state.


Peace.


Notes:

1.  Read the f-cking help screen.

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what the heck is this ? Syslog: meminfo

[Felipe Alvarez Harnecker]

Hi,

in one machine with kerlnel 2.2.19 with cipe modules, the syslog is
showing this

Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Mem-info:
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Free pages:  109752kB
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel:  ( Free: 27438 (254 508 762)
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: NonDMA: 10*4kB 8*8kB 7*16kB 3*32kB 2*64kB 1*128kB 
0*256kB 1*512kB 1*1024kB 46*2048kB = 96312kB)
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: DMA: 2*4kB 1*8kB 3*16kB 2*32kB 2*64kB 1*128kB 
1*256kB 1*512kB 0*1024kB 6*2048kB = 13440kB)
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Swap cache: add 0, delete 0, find 0/0
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Free swap:   128484kB
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: 32512 pages of RAM
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: 715 reserved pages
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: 2181 pages shared
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: 0 pages swap cached
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: 2327 pages in file cache
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: 2327 pages in page cache
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: 16 pages in page table cache
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Buffer memory:   2128kB
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Buffer heads:  1232
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Buffer blocks: 1201
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Buffer hashed: 1200
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: CLEAN: 1200 buffers, 74 used (last=1152), 0 
locked, 0 protected, 0 dirty
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Networking buffers in use  : 64
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Total network buffer allocations   : 3743407
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: Total failed network buffer allocs : 0
Mar 20 17:10:26 atila kernel: IP fragment buffer size: 0


This is happenning just about two weeks ago, but no after that.

Could somebody enlight me ?

Thanx.

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Re: Desperately trying to understand dselect (seeming inconsistency)

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Michael Marziani  quotation:

> I finally took the dselect plunge.  Aptitude is far easier, but I heard
> dselect can be more effective once it's mastered.

dselect has a rather odd UI, but it's a very effective tool, with just
one little exception...

> ... but when I try to un-select
> something that recommends another package, it won't let me unless I
> remove the other package, which in some cases is something I already
> have installed.

... and that exception is that it has a bug that causes it to treat
"recommends" as "depends". Once you've got your system in a state that
dselect is happy with, you won't run into this often, but it is annoying
when you do. There isn't really a good workaround, although you can use
the equivs package to make dummy versions of packages, which you can
then install to get dselect to shut up about them.

Craig

Re: tiny mouse howto - console gpm, X and mouse wheel

[timothy bauscher]

Carel, thank you for your suggestions. The
wheel is working beautifully now.

> > Well, i reinstalled gpm and install imwheel,
> > because someone mentioned gpm might require
> > imwheel??? My mouse still works, but not the
>
> No imwheel needed!

Okay.

> > A snip of my XF86Config-4 file:
> > 
> > Identifier  "Mouse1"
> > Driver  "mouse"
> > Option "Protocol""PS/2"
>
> last time I checked, you needed "IMPS/2" here, and you need the
> following:
>
> ZAxisMapping4 5

This must have quotes, otherwise it will not
parse correctly. So, it should look like:

ZAxisMapping "4 5"

> > Option "Device"  "/dev/gpmdata"
> > 
> > My gpm.conf file:
> > 
> > device=/dev/psaux
> > responsiveness=
> > repeat_type=raw
> > type=PS/2
>
> I think PS/2 is unknown to gpm, the proper name is ps2, but
> to get the wheel to work I think you need imps2.

I thought that too, but i was confused because X
uses PS/2 instead of ps2.

The reason i hadn't implemented IMPS/2 was because
i thought it was only for USB mice. Perhaps next
time i shall RTFM.

Thank you everyone for your assistance!
(==timothy==)

Re: Desperately trying to understand dselect (seeming inconsistency)

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Mar 21, 2002, Michael Marziani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I finally took the dselect plunge.  Aptitude is far easier, but I heard
> dselect can be more effective once it's mastered.

The primary difference:  dselect walks you through package "recommends"
options.  Generally, once you've got a system up and running, you don't
particularly need to worry about these, though you may want to manually
check packages down the road for any significant recommends listings
(use apt-cache for this).

Otherwise, aptitude's interface is a vast, vast improvement over
dselect.  I still occasionally drop into dselect, but do most of my
package selection from the command line with 'apt-get install foo'.

> Ok..  For some strange reason dselect had a bunch of crap selected
> that I have no idea where it came from when I first entered dselect
> after a brand new minimum install.  So I'm trying to un-select it all
> (D didn't work because it was previously selected), but when I try to
> un-select something that recommends another package, it won't let me
> unless I remove the other package, which in some cases is something I
> already have installed.

These are generally deps.

> Here's an example.  I have vim installed.  When I started dselect, it
> had vim-rt selected (but not installed).  So when I try to un-select
> vim-rt, I get a dependency resolution screen that looks like:
> 
> EIOM Pri Section  Package  Description
>   *- Opt editors  vim-rt   Vi IMproved - runtime support files
>  **- Opt editors  vim  Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor
> 
> Well I want to keep vim, so I do a + on it, and hit enter, well then I
> get another dependency resolution screen:
> 
> EIOM Pri Section  Package  Description
>   -* Opt editors  vim-rt   Vi IMproved - runtime support files
>  *** Opt editors  vim  Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor
> 
> But I don't want vim-rt, so I - it, and hit enter, and I get the same
> screen again.  What's the deal here?  

RTFHS [1].  You want 'Q' to override suggestions and quit.  'D' will set
all options to directly requested state.


Peace.


Notes:

1.  Read the f-cking help screen.

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Re: Mozilla X Opera

[francisco m neto]

» Assim falou Luis Alberto Garcia Cipriano em Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 12:59:55AM 
-0300:

> Em geral, as fontes minúsculas são culpas dos "web designers" que adoram 
> colocar 
>   CSS ou font tags fixando o tamanho em pixels, como se todos os monitores 
> estivessem numa mesma resolução padrão...

O CSS não tem nada a ver com essa bagunça. Se tem alguma coisa
que pode resolver os conflitos de formatação (entre outras coisas) em
HTML é justamente o CSS, que é, finalmente, um padrão estabelecido. Se
isso existisse desde versões mais antigas do HTML, os problemas
com esse tipo de coisa seriam bem menores.

E o tamanho fixo da fonte em pixels serve justamente para que
as proporções do site sejam respeitadas. Vale lembrar que os
navegadores têm, cada um, o seu próprio mecanismo de fontes, o que
significa que na hora que a página é renderizada, cada um faz isso por
sua conta e se os tamanhos não estiverem fixados vira zona.

> Mas tem uma solução imediata no Mozilla, quando abrir uma dessas páginas, vá 
> no 
> menu "View" -> "Text Zoom" e aumente a porcentagem :-) O Galeon é mais legal 
> nisso e já vem com uma caixinha pra ajustar o zoom e com teclas de atalho :-)
> 
> Mas ainda tem os famigerados "web masters" que insistem em transformar seus 
> textos em .gifs aí não tem jeito...

OK, então faça todas as máquinas do mundo terem exatamente as
mesmas fontes e o problema estará resolvido. 

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Re: Re: Lilo and kernel problems

[Noah Sombrero]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:38:48 +, you wrote:

>Mikko Heinonen wrote:
>
>> Hello !
>>
>> I've got a terrible problem regarding kernel installation. I tried to
>> install a newer 2.4 kernel to the recent stabile (2.2R5) installation and
>> got the system badly messed up. (I compiled kernel couple times and lost
>> the original working 2.2 kernel)

There is a reason the woody is not released yet.  I suspect the kernel is 
stable,
but the software that supports it has not caught up.  In my case I got all the
way through the installation, apt was saying no pending broken packages, and
found that X had lost all it's fonts, among other things.  X crashed before I
could get things straightened out.  I can boot, but X will not come up.  The 
xf86config file is a mess.  Fun, fun.

Gleason

Re: Where I Can Find OpenSSH+OpenLDAP Documents?

[Patrick Hsieh]

Hello Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

I installed libnss-ldap in woody, copied 
/usr/share/doc/libnss-ldap/examples/nsswitch.ldap
to /etc/nsswitch.conf.


in /etc/libnss-ldap.conf, the remote ldap server information is defined,
and /etc/nsswitch.conf defines that:

# the following two lines obviate the "+" entry in /etc/passwd and /etc/group.
passwd: files ldap
group:  files ldap

So it will authenticate the files then, if fails, ldap server, right?

OK. So I added a user "james" on the remote ldap server with some
attributes like uid, uidnumber, loginshell and userpassword,etc. But I
didn't add "james" in my local OS. However, when I ssh my local machine
with account "james", it just doesn't work.

Is there anything I could have missed?



On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 17:37:31 +0100
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:53, axacheng wrote:
> > Does Anyone Know where i can find the OpenSSH+OpenLDAP implement
> >
> > documents in the internet??
> 
> Just use the PAM LDAP support and configure /etc/pam.d/ssh appropriately.
> 
> But first try nss-ldap as it's slightly easier to setup and has all the same 
> config file formats etc.
> 
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Re: [OT] Redefinition of Black Market [was Re: Screen-free Linux?]

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Mar 18, 2002, Jean-Marc V. Liotier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 20:42, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Apparently so.  It's been 60ish years since WW2, the economy still 
> > functions, and taxes aren't confiscatorialy high (yet), so for us,
> > the underground (or black) market is in stolen property, etc.
> 
> If you sell me a piece of kit you very legally own, and I pay you in
> cash, that's black market : no trace, no taxes paid. The property traded
> is not necessarily illegal, it's just that the transaction is not
> visible to the State.

This is generally termed "grey" or "underground" market in the US.  This
generally doesn't connote illegal activity (though tax avoidance may be
a motive).  More usually, it's simply a market outside existing,
established, channels.  Somewhat analagous to P2P networking.

Peace.

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sound question

[Malte Thoma]

Hallo,

can anybody tell me, how to set up the soundsystem of my laptop?
I have tryed severalthings, but without success :-(

I've got:
Kernel 2.4.18

lspci says:
00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC97 Audio 
Controller (rev 50)


I would like to use alsa, but haven't found a dokumentation.
I tryed alsaconf, but at the end it's not possible to detect the 
soundcard, could be a problem of diffferent versions?


Any help is welcome,

Malte Thoma

Re: tiny mouse howto - console gpm, X and mouse wheel

[Carel Fellinger]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:03:34PM -0500, timothy bauscher wrote:
... 
> Well, i reinstalled gpm and install imwheel,
> because someone mentioned gpm might require
> imwheel??? My mouse still works, but not the

No imwheel needed!

...
> A snip of my XF86Config-4 file:
> 
> Identifier  "Mouse1"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option "Protocol""PS/2"

last time I checked, you needed "IMPS/2" here, and you need the following:

   ZAxisMapping4 5

> Option "Device"  "/dev/gpmdata"
> 
> My gpm.conf file:
> 
> device=/dev/psaux
> responsiveness=
> repeat_type=raw
> type=PS/2

I think PS/2 is unknown to gpm, the proper name is ps2, but
to get the wheel to work I think you need imps2.

> append=""
> sample_rate=

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Desperately trying to understand dselect (seeming inconsistency)

[Michael Marziani]

I finally took the dselect plunge.  Aptitude is far easier, but I heard
dselect can be more effective once it's mastered.

Ok..  For some strange reason dselect had a bunch of crap selected that
I have no idea where it came from when I first entered dselect after a
brand new minimum install.  So I'm trying to un-select it all (D didn't
work because it was previously selected), but when I try to un-select
something that recommends another package, it won't let me unless I
remove the other package, which in some cases is something I already
have installed.

Here's an example.  I have vim installed.  When I started dselect, it
had vim-rt selected (but not installed).  So when I try to un-select
vim-rt, I get a dependency resolution screen that looks like:

EIOM Pri Section  Package  Description
  *- Opt editors  vim-rt   Vi IMproved - runtime support files
 **- Opt editors  vim  Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor

Well I want to keep vim, so I do a + on it, and hit enter, well then I
get another dependency resolution screen:

EIOM Pri Section  Package  Description
  -* Opt editors  vim-rt   Vi IMproved - runtime support files
 *** Opt editors  vim  Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor

But I don't want vim-rt, so I - it, and hit enter, and I get the same
screen again.  What's the deal here?  Does recommend = require in
deb-speak?  If so something is messed up, because when I first installed
vim I just did an apt-get install vim, and all it installed was vim, no
prompting for vim-rt or anything.

Someone please explain.  I very much want to understand this system, but
it seems like apt-get and dselect are being inconsistent.

Thanks!!

-Mike

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Weird keymap problem

[Carel Fellinger]

Tired of stretching my fingers to reach for the control key I thought of
using my thumb instead, so I defined the right alt key to function as an
extra control key.

But this doesn't fully work!  And it doesn't matter whether I try this
in X with xkeycaps and copying the left Control key onto the right Alt
key, or in the console with the apropriate loadkeys command:

$ loadkeys <

Re: ncurses HeLP

[Billy Sneed]

Ronneil Camara wrote:
> Thanks.

Welcome.

> Just wondering why you said "on an unstable box"?

My computer is running unstable. The libs may be a different
version on a potato box.  Either way, it'll be libncurses[n]-dev.
'apt-cache search libncurses' will show you what your options are.

> And also, I am doing the traditional way of compiling the kernel, make 
> menuconfig, make dep clean modules_install bzImage
> 
> Will this work on debian?

Sure thing.

> I actually asked about curses because when I did a make menuconfig, it told 
> me that
> curses.h was not found, then it brought me back to the prompt.

IIRC, make menuconfig compiles the curses interface before you
get the curses menu for choosing your kernel options. Nothing but
source code in the kernel source, no binaries. Hence needing the
header files (curses.h) for make menuconfig.

billy

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Billy Sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:03 AM
> > To: Ronneil Camara
> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: ncurses HeLP
> > 
> > 
> > libncurses5-dev  on an unstable box.
> > 
> > billy
> > 
> > Ronneil Camara wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > > 
> > > How are you doing?
> > > 
> > > Anyways, what package should I install so that I will have 
> > curses.h file?
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > Neil
> > > 
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Re: Updating glibc 2.1.3-19 to glibc 2.2.5-3 on potato

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:09:03AM -0800, dinni bartholomew wrote:
> I am new to debian...
> I keep having problems whenever I want to install an app on this host
> because of glibc dependancies...This is an out the box debian potato
> install and as a result has glibc 2.1.3-19   many of the applications
> that i want to install require at least  glibc 2.2.X.
> Is there some safe way to to just upgrade glibc?
> I would prefer to not have to upgrade this machine woody.

Upgrading to woody *is* the safest way. Attempting to upgrade only the
libc6 package will probably destabilize your system. Building glibc from
source will almost certainly introduce some very subtle problems unless
you're very familiar with what's going on.

> Are there any alternatives?

If you don't want to upgrade to woody, you could build the applications
in question from source.

Cheers,

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Re: Broken vim man pages in potato

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 12:03:25PM -0500, Michael Marziani wrote:
> Did a apt-get install of vim on a minimum install of potato 2.2r5, then
> used update-alternatives --config vi and selected vim.  Now when I do a
> 'man vi' I get:
>  
> man: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/vi.1.gz is a dangling symlink
>  
> 'man vim' works just fine.  I checked and the manual pages for vim are
> in /usr/man/man1, not /usr/share/man/man1, so it looks like when vim
> registered with update-alternatives it apparently gave the wrong slave
> link:
>  
> # update-alternatives --display vi
> vi - status is manual
>  link currently points to /usr/bin/vim
> /usr/bin/vim - priority 20
>  slave vi.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/vim.1.gz
>  
> Who would I talk to about getting this fixed?

Relatively minor problems like this won't be fixed in potato. If it
still occurs in woody (which I don't believe it does), then file a bug:
see http://bugs.debian.org/>.

Cheers,

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Re: cdrw

[Sebastiaan]

High,

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, jeff wrote:

> hello folks...
>
> i'm trying to get my cdwriter to be recognized under
> debian...
>
> seems like i can mount the /cdrom no prob...
>
That's nice.

> any pointers on how to create a device for the writer? it
> seems to detect it ok at boot but i can't mount the
> sucker...
>
Well, you just said you can mount the /cdrom. Or is /cdrom not your
cdwriter?

I guess you want to write to the disc. Well, you need cdrecord for that.
If it is a scsi device, you can use cdrecord right away. However, if it is
an ide device, you have to play around with ide-scsi. See kernel
documentation for more information.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


> TIA
>
> -jeff
>
>
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Re: dosemu: com port problem partially solved

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi! I already _am_ a member of dialout!

RE: checkpoint fw1 on debian

[Ronneil Camara]

Hi guys,

And also, i need to install libcpc++-libc6.1-2.so-3

what file should i install?

Thanks.

> -Original Message-
> From: Ronneil Camara 
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:07 AM
> To: Robert Waldner; debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: RE: checkpoint fw1 on debian
> 
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Ok. I've finally setup my debian.
> 
> I got one question though. I have with me a SP5 and the 
> command on redhat to install
> it is rpm -i --replacefiles something*.rpm
> 
> What would this be in alien?
> 
> Thank you very much again.
> 
> Neil
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robert Waldner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:25 AM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: checkpoint fw1 on debian
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > (sorry, I've accidently deleted the original post and it's 
> not in the 
> >  archives yet)
> > 
> > You should be able to install FW1 on Debian ('t was 2.2r3 
> > when we last 
> >  had to do that, so YMMV) using the following steps:
> > 
> > Needed packages:
> > - alien (for the rpm's)
> > - csh (for FW1s scripts)
> > - tcsh (ditto)
> > - kernel-image-2.2.19 (-2.2.19pre7 does _not_ work)
> > - libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1
> > 
> > - make a _huge_ /opt, it installs there
> > 
> > Install FW1 with:
> >  `alien -i CPfw*rpm`
> > 
> > Now add to /etc/profile:
> > .-.-.-.-.
> > FWDIR=/etc/fw
> > PATH=$PATH:$FWDIR/bin
> > export FWDIR
> > .-.-.-.-.
> > 
> > Add "/etc/fw/bin" to /etc/login.defs and /root/.profile.
> > 
> > Perform these steps:
> > # echo "#!/bin/sh"> /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> > # chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> > # mkdir -p /etc/rc.d/rc2.d
> > # ln -s /etc/rc.d/init.d/fw1boot /etc/init.d
> > # ln -s /etc/rc.d/rc.local /etc/init.d/fw1
> > # update-rc.d fw1boot start 41 S . start 36 0 6 .
> > # update-rc.d fw1 defaults
> > # touch /boot/System.map
> > # ln -s /usr/bin/tcsh /bin
> > 
> > When cpconfig asks "want to start automatically from 
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.local"
> >  answer "yes".
> > 
> > For service packs unpack the the .tar.gz, you should now have 
> > the .rpm.
> >  Do
> > .-.-.-.-.-.-.
> > # alien -g CPfw*rpm
> > # cd cpfw*/debian
> > # vi control
> > 
> > Source: cpfw1-spX
> > Package: cpfw1-spX
> > Depends: cpfw1 (=41-1)
> > 
> > # vi changelog
> > 
> > edit packet-names to cpfw1-spX here, too.
> > 
> > # cd ..
> > # dpkg-buildpackage
> > .-.-.-.-.-.-.
> > 
> > Be aware that arp on Linux isn't able to publish static 
> > entries (though 
> >  the manpage says otherwise), therefore we simply used tarpd
> >  http://freshmeat.net/redir/tarpd/10247/url_tgz/tarpd-1.6.tar.gz
> > 
> > HTH.
> > 
> > cheers,
> > &rw
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cdrw

[jeff]

hello folks...

i'm trying to get my cdwriter to be recognized under 
debian...

seems like i can mount the /cdrom no prob...

any pointers on how to create a device for the writer? it 
seems to detect it ok at boot but i can't mount the 
sucker...

TIA

-jeff

Updating glibc 2.1.3-19 to glibc 2.2.5-3 on potato

[dinni bartholomew]

I am new to debian...
I keep having problems whenever I want to install an
app on this host
because of glibc dependancies...This is an out the box
debian potato
install and as a result has glibc 2.1.3-19   many of
the applications
that i want to install require at least  glibc 2.2.X.
Is there some safe way to to just upgrade glibc?
I would prefer to not have to upgrade this machine
woody. Are there
any alternatives?

Any help is much appreciated

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Re: dosemu: com port problem partially solved

[Sebastiaan]

High,

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> Hi Phil and list!
> I discovered that my com ports work as root, but I'm not sure how to get 
> access
> myself. My ttySx are currently set for root and dialout, and this isn't a
> problem in linux since i am a member of dialout. However, I have tried 
> resetting
> permissions to 666 and even 1777 and this doesn't seem to help me use my com
DON'T! Add yourself to the group dialout instead. See my previous mail.

> ports in dosemu. Any suggestions?
> By the way, I'm not sure if this mattered or not, but I did change the speaker
> line in the dosemu.conf to "emulated" also.
> TIA.
>
Greetz,
Sebastiaan

RE: checkpoint fw1 on debian

[Ronneil Camara]

Hi guys,

Ok. I've finally setup my debian.

I got one question though. I have with me a SP5 and the command on redhat to 
install
it is rpm -i --replacefiles something*.rpm

What would this be in alien?

Thank you very much again.

Neil

> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Waldner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:25 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: checkpoint fw1 on debian
> 
> 
> 
> (sorry, I've accidently deleted the original post and it's not in the 
>  archives yet)
> 
> You should be able to install FW1 on Debian ('t was 2.2r3 
> when we last 
>  had to do that, so YMMV) using the following steps:
> 
> Needed packages:
> - alien (for the rpm's)
> - csh (for FW1s scripts)
> - tcsh (ditto)
> - kernel-image-2.2.19 (-2.2.19pre7 does _not_ work)
> - libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1
> 
> - make a _huge_ /opt, it installs there
> 
> Install FW1 with:
>  `alien -i CPfw*rpm`
> 
> Now add to /etc/profile:
> .-.-.-.-.
> FWDIR=/etc/fw
> PATH=$PATH:$FWDIR/bin
> export FWDIR
> .-.-.-.-.
> 
> Add "/etc/fw/bin" to /etc/login.defs and /root/.profile.
> 
> Perform these steps:
> # echo "#!/bin/sh"> /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> # chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> # mkdir -p /etc/rc.d/rc2.d
> # ln -s /etc/rc.d/init.d/fw1boot /etc/init.d
> # ln -s /etc/rc.d/rc.local /etc/init.d/fw1
> # update-rc.d fw1boot start 41 S . start 36 0 6 .
> # update-rc.d fw1 defaults
> # touch /boot/System.map
> # ln -s /usr/bin/tcsh /bin
> 
> When cpconfig asks "want to start automatically from 
> /etc/rc.d/rc.local"
>  answer "yes".
> 
> For service packs unpack the the .tar.gz, you should now have 
> the .rpm.
>  Do
> .-.-.-.-.-.-.
> # alien -g CPfw*rpm
> # cd cpfw*/debian
> # vi control
> 
> Source: cpfw1-spX
> Package: cpfw1-spX
> Depends: cpfw1 (=41-1)
> 
> # vi changelog
> 
> edit packet-names to cpfw1-spX here, too.
> 
> # cd ..
> # dpkg-buildpackage
> .-.-.-.-.-.-.
> 
> Be aware that arp on Linux isn't able to publish static 
> entries (though 
>  the manpage says otherwise), therefore we simply used tarpd
>  http://freshmeat.net/redir/tarpd/10247/url_tgz/tarpd-1.6.tar.gz
> 
> HTH.
> 
> cheers,
> &rw
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Broken vim man pages in potato

[Michael Marziani]

Title: Message



Did a apt-get 
install of vim on a minimum install of potato 2.2r5, then used 
update-alternatives --config vi and selected vim.  Now when I do 
a 'man vi' I get:
 
man: warning: 
/usr/share/man/man1/vi.1.gz is a dangling symlink
 
'man vim' works just 
fine.  I checked and the manual pages for vim are in /usr/man/man1, not 
/usr/share/man/man1, so it looks like when vim registered with 
update-alternatives it apparently gave the wrong slave link:
 
# 
update-alternatives --display vi
vi - status is 
manual
 link currently 
points to /usr/bin/vim
/usr/bin/vim - 
priority 20
 slave vi.1.gz: 
/usr/share/man/man1/vim.1.gz
 
Who would I talk to 
about getting this fixed?
 
-Mike
 
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