Re: OT: debian-beer
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:07:23PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: | BTW spamassassin has started marking this thread SPAM. Really? It got -4.4 on my system (IN_REP_TO). | A hint? Sure :-). -- If we claim we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar and His Word has no place in our lives. I John 1:10 GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg pgphkxcbKa17V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GCJ and C/C++ applications how is it possible ?
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:36:06PM +0200, Pac wrote: | | [...] | dman> $ ./a.out | dman> Hello World | | thanks but I all ready knew that !!! :-). | dman> | dman> | into a library and to use it into | dman> | | dman> | a GTK+ application | dman> | a Qt application | dman> | | dman> | ?? | dman> | dman> To make use of existing C/C++ libraries requires writing JNI (or CNI) | dman> bridge code in C/C++ to provide a Java interface that your Java code | dman> can access. GCJ doesn't provide auto wrappers like that, it just | dman> turns your java source into native binaries. | | I dont want to use a C/C++ library inside a java programm, I whave a | set java classes compiled into a native library (with compilation | option shared from gcj) and want to use this library into a Qt or GTK+ | application. Oh, I see. | Isnt it possible ? Anything is possible ... though the effort required varies :-). | See this from http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.1/changes.html : | | " # JNI and CNI invocation interfaces were implemented, so gcj-compiled Java code can now be called from a C/C++ application. I didn't know that. That's a good feature to have. I guess you'll have to RTFM the gcc docs to find out what that API is. Maybe it works just like compiling a C++ library except that you'll be missing the C++ header files (unless it can generate them too). | dman> | dman> For GTK+ you can take a look at http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/. | | thank you | I will read this Does your GTK+ app already exist in C/C++? If not, then you can use java-gnome to write your app in Java and use the java libs directly. You also have the option of using jython and java-gnome together to write a non-distributed GTK+ app in python and still use java libs. Some of the interoperability options are rather interesting to consider. -D -- Q: What is the difference betwee open-source and commercial software? A: If you have a problem with commercial software you can call a phone number and they will tell you it might be solved in a future version. For open-source sofware there isn't a phone number to call, but you get the solution within a day. GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg pgpUiIjkKqzxw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: woody
On 2002.05.22 20:51 Jerome Acks Jr wrote: On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 09:34:46PM +0200, Ferdinand Lachmann wrote: > I am a newby on debian woody 3.0. > Have a Nvidia GeForce2 DDR in my system. > Can,t get my xserver running,nor my usb logitech mouse. I assume you have installed X4.x. If not, run: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 And make sure you have an entry for testing in /etc/apt/sources.list (the default list only includes entries for stable). Or run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 select the nv driver for your card. At some point, you will probably want to replace the nv driver that ships with XFree86 with the nvidia driver from nVidia. HTH, Ian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nimm mich hyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 May 2002 04:54 pm, qlet-Julia- wrote: > Bist du mein erotischer Traum ? > > Ich bin auf der Suche nach Zaertlichkeit, Leidenschaft und viel Erotic Pur! > Ich verzweifle bald, weil ich keinen Partner finde, der einfach nur ohne > Abhaengigkeit und feste Bindung mit mir im Bett Tango tanzen will. I think the word is "oops". - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE87F9fZHBxKsta6kMRAnW/AJ99zfgDHSRK+Dj/Msstw0v3jCz3lgCgqizo 6gNf1QYrCI/QWhNIdxEzW6o= =e+eO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato -> sid
Well, I haven't got anything else to do tonight... Reinstalled Potato - hey it's just like windoze with all this format/reinstalling :) - changed sources.list to Woody, apt-get install apt dpkg debconf. I'd saved the debs from Sid, and used them in /var/cache/apt/archives, I had to download another 5MB which was a lot loess then I was expecting. Anyway, it all installed fine; debconf. locales, gcc, apt - everything. I'll run Woody for a little before I try cutting myself on Sid. Thanks Harvey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice.org and gcc conflicts
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 04:45:44PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 03:41:51PM +0200, Francois Chenais wrote: > > I'm using woody/testing and I had a new unstable line in sources.list > > to get OpenOffice.org. > > > > deb ftp://ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice unstable main contrib > > > > BUT, this asks me to install gcc-3.0-base libgcc1 libstdc++3 > > libstlport4.5gcc3. > > > > Is this can generate conflicts with woody gcc-2.95.4 package ? > > gcc-3.0 and gcc-2.95 coexist happily. But libstlport4.5 and libstlport4.5gcc3 don't. :( -- Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get sources
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 07:21:42PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, 21 May 2002, user list wrote: > > > Is the debian ftp site also a round-robin of all the ftp mirrors? > > It *should* be, but it's better to use apt-spy to find the fastest for > you. > > - -- > Baloo > > Sorry, but it's been my experience that netselect-apt is much, much faster than apt-spy. Give it a shot :-}. -Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unidentified subject!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed May 22 21:30:33 2002 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 31524 invoked from network); 23 May 2002 02:30:30 - Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (203.5.217.4) by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 23 May 2002 02:30:30 - Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g4N2SiS06693 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:58:44 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:59:55 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id LAA23296 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:53:31 +0930 (CST) Received: by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:53:44 +0930 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Wrightson, Barney ( Contractor )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?]) Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:53:29 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=4.7 tests=SUBJ_HAS_Q_MARK,SUBJ_HAS_SPACES version=2.01 >I rank Foster's, the only Australian beer I've tried, just a bit above >Budweiser. I think Fosters is a bit like Jacobs Creek wines... Its the only Aussie brand well known / mass marketed overseas, but not many australians would bother with it. I personally drink Coopers (South Australian - Ales) / Boags (Tasmanian - Premium Lager) when not drinking homebrew. Barney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wordperfect 8 on Woody? libXpm-problem
On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 16:01, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > > Is the problem perhaps that libXpm.so.4.11 is not the correct version > > for WordPerfect? > > You probably need to install the libc5 version of libXpm. Same version > number, but located in the directory /usr/lib/libc5-compat. It can be > found in the package xpm4.7, located in the "oldlibs" section of Debian > distributions. > > (eagerly awaiting the day when OpenOffice has a WordPerfect conversion > filter...) >From what I hear, A WP filter is one of the extras in SO60. -- +-+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | | | | "I have created a government of whirled peas..."| | Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 12-May-2002, | ! CNN, Larry King Live | +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed May 22 21:25:38 2002 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 23771 invoked from network); 23 May 2002 02:25:36 - Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (203.5.217.4) by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 23 May 2002 02:25:36 - Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g4N2NnS06164 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:53:50 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:54:57 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id LAA23399 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:47:01 +0930 (CST) Received: by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:47:14 +0930 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Wrightson, Barney ( Contractor )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?]) Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:46:58 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=4.7 tests=SUBJ_HAS_Q_MARK,SUBJ_HAS_SPACES version=2.01 Tom: >Oh boy, here comes a flame war... > >The Irish, without a shadow of a doubt, make the best beer in the >world. They are just damn good at it. After them, and I am trying to >be impartial here, we Australians do a damn good beer. It's not >exotic, it doesn't have bits floating in it, it's just cold, clean, >smooth and refreshing. Tom, I must disagree, One of our best beers (IMHO and according to many international judges) DOES have bits floating in it :) (mmm Coopers Sparkling) - Obviously (I sincerly hope) you are a lager drinker and are talking about Boags / Southwark Premium or similar, and not our mass market garbage like West End/Carlton Draught or VB. (I just love flame wars) Barney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1:1 mirror for an entire hd
Karsten M. Self, Mon, May 20, 2002 at 02:09:32AM -0700: > on Mon, May 20, 2002, R. Lockhart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I need to transfer all my data, os, partitions, formatting, to a new > > hard drive. I got a lemon hd (still perfect electronicly but making > > ugly noises). A replacement is on the way from the manufacturer but > > I'm not sure about the best way to mirror a-b. > > >$ mkdir /mnt/oldhd >$ mkdri /mnt/newhd >$ mount /dev/hda /mnt/oldhd >$ mount /dev/hdb /mnt/newhd >$ cd /mnt/oldhd >$ tar cvf - . | ( cd /mnt/newhd; tar xf - ) > > (rsync, or cp -padR are other alternatives). > Also, you'll need to install a new boot block (MBR) or the new disk won't boot. The LILO mini-howto explains how to do that: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/LILO-4.html You can use fdisk -l /dev/hda to get the parition table of the old disk. g -- Brought to you by Debian 3.0 Linux took 2.4.16 #1 SMP Sat Jan 5 12:52:24 EST 2002 i686 unknown pgpBwTfGlHClU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems with Galeon, Mozilla and ?Opera? freezing.
> "Petro" == Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Petro> I have a problem with Galeon and Mozilla freezing up on Petro> specific pages. Some will freeze Mozilla, many (that will freeze Petro> one or the other) will freeze both. As in screen redraws within Petro> that window don't work any more etc. Maybe a misbehaving plugin. Do you have the same plugins installed on both computers? PS. Any reason you indent all your lines by four spaces? It looks odd. -- Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.uhoreg.ca/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/124B61FA Fingerprint: 96C5 012F 5F74 A5F7 1FF7 5291 AF29 C719 124B 61FA Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. pgpTa58L4anJZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
> I'm told by natives that Fosters isn't Australian for "Beer", it's > Australian for "Budwiser". After a hard day in the Texas heat the first budweiser actually tastes good, probably the same goes for Fosters in Australia. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
On Wed, 22 May 2002 13:25:47 -0700
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> banged a keyboard:
The Wig & Pen in Canberra au brews their own ale, especially 'Creamy Ale'
{:), which is like a white guinness, almost as thick as Guinness and has a
hint of caramel depending on that months brew.
/me wanders off to the pub
cheers Peter vdM
>
> Harvey is the guy who's joking. For one thing, Guinness (and all stouts)
> is in fact an ale, so to say you should drink Guinness and not ale is
> absurd. Second, England makes a number of superb beers, including those
> from Fuller's and Samuel Smith (I have yet to have a drink from either
> of those breweries that is less than excellent -- in particular, I
> recommend Fuller's London Porter and Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale).
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Problems with Galeon, Mozilla and ?Opera? freezing.
So, I have 2 Debian Woody systems that are "pure" woody systems and up to date. One of them (Home Machine) is a PII 233 with a Diamond Viper 770 video card. The other is a PIII 733 with a Riva TNT2 card in the AGP slot, and a Graphics Blaster Extreme in one of the PCI slots pushing 2 19 inch monitors with Xinerama. Windowmaker is the WindowManager. I have a problem with Galeon and Mozilla freezing up on specific pages. Some will freeze Mozilla, many (that will freeze one or the other) will freeze both. As in screen redraws within that window don't work any more etc. The odd bit is that this only happens with my work machine. My home machine is fine. The other odd bit is that some of time Opera will freeze on the same pages. One page that I have found that will reliably freeze both Galeon and Mozilla is www.apple.com/ibook. But only on my work machine. And nothing else seems subject to this (applications frequently used include GAIM (always running), Abiword and now OpenOffice, Gnumeric, DIA. No problems (or at least no similar problems) with any of those, just the browsers. Any clues? -- My last cigarette was roughly 30 days, 15 hours, 54 minutes ago. YHBW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to rebuild Woody kernel (Newbie)
"DSC" == DSC Siltec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DSC> I've installed Woody, but have discovered that I don't have DSC> (a) ALSA for my sound (alternately ymfpci.o) or (b) support DSC> for my USB (which I assume will be necessary if I want to DSC> upload my digital camera pictures to my Linux box.) ymfpci and USB support are built into the 2.4.18 kernel's available with Woody. You should not need to build your own unless you know for a fact that the pre-built kernel is no good for you. DSC> Ideally, it would be nice to get a list of the modules that I DSC> already have and their installation values -- I am sure that DSC> they would be listed somewhere in ETC, if I knew where to DSC> look. ls /boot/config* contains the options used to build the kernels you install. and, of course, /lib/modules/kernel-/ It *is* all kind of Greek like you said, but it's pretty easy once you get over the initial shock (much like learning Greek, I guess ;-) Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 07:00:34PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote: > Can you give me an example of good Aussie beer that might be available > in the US. The only one I can think of is Fosters, I wasn't overly > impressed with it (as in I will drink one, but I won't buy one). I'm told by natives that Fosters isn't Australian for "Beer", it's Australian for "Budwiser". -- My last cigarette was roughly 30 days, 16 hours, 1 minutes ago. YHBW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato -> sid
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 12:22:38PM +0100, kellyh wrote: > On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 11:18:15PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > I uninstalled pretty much everything from potato - and left just a > > > skeleton system for the upgrade. Apt-get -f dist-upgrade and then > > > waited. After downloading apt freaked out (I can't remember at which > > > point), so I used dselect to see if that could sort it out. It wanted > > > to download another 40MB, for a complete upgrade I guess. Fine, so I > > > waited some more. Now it's done it is having difficulty with > > > configuring debconf: > > > > > > Setting up debconf (1.1.14) ... > > > no type given for question at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line > > > 15. > > > dpkg: error processing debconf (--configure): > > > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255 > > > Errors were encountered while processing: > > > debconf > > > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > > > > And obviously loads of important stuff ain't getting done. > > > How do I get out of this one? > > > > OK, Not bad. You need to install many basic packages before getting > > debconf running. > > > > # cd /var/cache/apt/archives > > # dpkg -i libc > > # dpkg -i perl* > > # dpkg -i apt* > > # dpkg -i debconf* > > # apt-get -f upgrade > > Hello, I did this and libc* perl* apt* are all installed and configured, > but it still won't configure debconf... > > Setting up debconf (1.1.4) ... > no type given for question at /usr/share/perl15/Debconf/Question.pm line > 15. > dpkg: error processing debconf (--install): > subprocess post-installlation script returned error exit status 255 Mmm. So I formatted (well, what can I say), reinstalled Potato, changed sources.list to unstable, apt-get update and then apt-get apt dpkg debconf, and I've got the same problem. Can you upgrade from Potato to Sid? When is Woody coming out? :) Harvey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: debian-beer
Wienand writes: > Where do people get the impression that Foster's is an Australian beer?? >From the same place that they get the impression that Budweiser is the only beer available in the US, most likely. BTW spamassassin has started marking this thread SPAM. A hint? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Evolution: Cannot append message to mbox file: Success
G'day, I've been happily using Evolution (1.0.3-1) on woody now for a month, and it has just started not receiving mail from my /var/mail/me mbox file. When I press the Send/Receive button, an error message appears: Error while 'Fetching Mail': Cannot append message to mbox file: /home/me/evolution/local/Inbox/mbox: Success Is this a problem I caused? Has anyone else seen it? I've found only one, old, reference on google. No bugs match this on http://bugs.debian.org/evolution The only thing I recall changing before it stopped was adding a new filter for debian-users to push mail to another folder. I've since restored the filters.xml file from backup (10th May) and even deleted it altogether. After the failed receive of mail, the ~/evolution/local/Inbox/ directory looks like this; ~/evolution/local/Inbox$ ls -l total 4508 -rw-r--r--1 root root 103 Dec 4 11:08 folder-metadata.xml -rw-r--r--1 root root 95 May 23 11:00 local-metadata.xml -rw---1 root root 343353 May 23 10:48 mbox -rw---1 root root68286 May 23 10:48 mbox.ev-summary -rw---1 root root 1653504 May 23 10:48 mbox.ibex -rw---1 root root 2521711 May 23 10:48 movemail.mbox__var_mail_root The last file is clearly in mbox format, and is the mail imported from /var/mail/me but not yet inserted into mbox. There's nothing amazingly abnormal about the message at the top of that file. Any further clues to help diagnose? -- James Cameron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://quozl.linux.org.au/ (or) http://quozl.netrek.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
>I rank Foster's, the only Australian beer I've tried, just a bit above >Budweiser. Where do people get the impression that Foster's is an Australian beer I'd never even had the misfortune of drinking a Foster's till during the Olympics, when it seems they started to pay some pubs in the city to serve nothing *but* Foster's. Probably to give all the international tourists the impression that we actually drink the stuff. And I've been Australian all my life. -I ** CAUTION: This message may contain confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use or disclosure of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error please notify Mail Administrators immediately. You must obtain all necessary intellectual property clearances before doing anything other than displaying this message on your monitor. There is no intellectual property licence. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Woolworths Ltd. ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serious "Bug" in most major Linux distros.
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 03:16:57AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Tue, May 21, 2002, Petro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > All I'm asking for at this point is something that the rest of the > > Unix World has done forever, a statically linked /sbin/sh for > roots > > use. > > > > Is this the first time someone has brought this up? > Puhleaze: There's a bunch of people here acting like they've never heard of the idea, and the only somewhat reasonable excuse I've heard for not doing it is "It's a lot of work", which lead me to believe it hadn't been discussed here. > http://www.google.com/search?q=debian+statically+linked+root+shell So it has been brought up before, over 2 years ago, and it's still wrong? -- My last cigarette was roughly 30 days, 15 hours, 21 minutes ago. YHBW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 09:34:46PM +0200, Ferdinand Lachmann wrote: > I am a newby on debian woody 3.0. > Have a Nvidia GeForce2 DDR in my system. > Can,t get my xserver running,nor my usb logitech mouse. I assume you have installed X4.x. If not, run: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 Then try running "XFree86 -configure" as root. This should give you a working configuration file that gives you an ugly gray screen. You can then tweak the config file into more usable setup. If this doesn't start the xserver, check /var/log/XFree86.0.log for error messages Or run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 select the nv driver for your card. If you mouse has a wheel it probably uses ImPS/2 protocol and would be on /dev/input/mice (or /dev/gpmdata if you are using gpm with repeat_type=raw). If you reply, please send your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jerome pgp9WrYfeRO3C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
On 0, Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh boy, here comes a flame war... > > > > > > The Irish, without a shadow of a doubt, make the best beer in the > > world. They are just damn good at it. After them, and I am trying to > > be impartial here, we Australians do a damn good beer. It's not > > exotic, it doesn't have bits floating in it, it's just cold, clean, > > smooth and refreshing. Next, the Germans are very capable beer > > makers. After that the whole world really goes to hell, with the > > French-speakers only not coming last because the Americans do. As a > > certain comedy team pointed out, it's like making love in a canoe... > > > > Can you give me an example of good Aussie beer that might be available > in the US. The only one I can think of is Fosters, I wasn't overly > impressed with it (as in I will drink one, but I won't buy one). Oh, good Lord, no. No no no no no. Fosters is what we _export_. Try to find Coopers' Ales (pale or dark), Carlton United Breweries Crown Lager or Cold Filtered. Don't *ever* drink Australian beer from a can, it's just not worth it. In fact don't drink *any* beer from a can (except possibly Caffrey's Ale). > You're right about American beers, especially the three largest > brewers. Are we the only ones that produce a light beer? No, I hear Fosters does one. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Classifications of inanimate objects: Those that don't work, those that break down, and those that get lost. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au pgpA0jT2PUN6Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mozilla & Macromedia Flash
Hi, Recently I upgraded my Mozilla to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep moz ii mozilla-browse 1+rc2-1Mozilla Web Browser - core and browser The plugins that I had installed before was gone; now all I have is the default plugin. Do plugins have to be reinstalled after upgrading Mozilla? And how is the state of the Flash plugin? Does it work perfectly on rc2? And does it work remotely? BTW, do you need Java to be installed in order to have the Flash plugin running? If the answer is yes, I believe that it's a bit overburdening; considering that gcj is available now. Oki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange init
On 05/22 20:20 Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://bugs.debian.org/132870 Why use "ini" instead of "init"; this is Linux anyway. Was fixed quite some time ago in 2.84-3, which I apparently forgot to upload. Hmm, since it isn't release critical this isn't going to make it into woody, so we'll be stuck with it for the next 2 years ;/ I use sid; there's no reason to get stuck, right? So I guess, apt-get install sysvinit would fix it. A fix might be to add some extra arguments to the init command line, try adding append="panic=30" (generally harmless but useful kernel command line, which is passed to init as well) to /etc/lilo.conf, re-run lilo, reboot, see if it helps. You can also try append="-z 123456789" as that is a special "ignore" command line option for init. So basically, those two appends are "no-ops", right? I see, I'll try. Oki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
Tom Cook writes: > After them, and I am trying to be impartial here, we Australians do a > damn good beer. I rank Foster's, the only Australian beer I've tried, just a bit above Budweiser. > After that the whole world really goes to hell, with the French-speakers > only not coming last because the Americans do. How many American beers have you tasted? Nothing advertised on television counts. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serious "Bug" in most major Linux distros.
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 10:15:45PM -0700, dman wrote: > On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 07:08:48PM -0700, Petro wrote: > | On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 05:57:16PM -0700, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > | > On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 05:04:59PM -0700, Petro wrote: > | > > Mostly just some basic copy tools. > | > If you need to pick things out of .debs, then you'll need a working > | > dpkg. Or ar + tar ( & gzip if memory serves). > | Actually, just tar and cp. > A deb is an ar archive that contains two gzipped tarballs. Thus you > first need ar to extract the tarballs, then gunzip to decompress them, > and then finally tar and cp to do the rest. Yes, and with cp and tar I can either get a file from somewhere else, or copy some files to a location where they will survive a reinstall. > | > Correction: Relatively easy, and a relatively large amount of > work... > | Doesn't sound like it. > Building tweaked binary packages from the source package is really > easy, as long as your tweaks are major rewrites of the app or > something. No, I meant it doesn't sound like a lot of work. -- My last cigarette was roughly 30 days, 13 hours, 56 minutes ago. YHBW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Emacs and shell variables
Stefan Bellon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I know very little of the login process. Does gdm evaluate the > ~/.environment file? Or the ~/.xsession file? If neither, then the > above solution doesn't give me any advantage. If it does evaluate one, > then yes, this is clearly the way to go. It depends on what kind of session you choose to launch with gdm. It won't evaluate .environment. However, if you launch the `Xsession' session, then it will launch .xsession. Take a look at the session scripts in /etc/gdm/Sessions, which should tell you which sessions evaluate which files. FWIW, gdm's `Xsession' session tries .xsession, and .Xclients if .xsession doesn't exist. Gdm's `Debian' session executes /etc/X11/Xsession, which also evaluates .xsession eventually. The `Gnome' session uses .gnomerc. -- Dave Carrigan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])| Yow! Four thousand different UNIX-Apache-Perl-Linux-Firewalls-LDAP-C-DNS | MAGNATES, MOGULS & NABOBS are Seattle, WA, USA| romping in my gothic solarium!! http://www.rudedog.org/ | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tomcat test
On 05/22 16:38 Francois Chenais wrote: Nothing listenning on port 8080 :-| Well, take a look at $TOMCAT_HOME/conf/server.xml, under the Tomcat-Standalone service tag, there is a Connector tag with it's port attribute; you can see on what port Tomcat is running. I installed my Tomcat from the Apache distribution, and I believe that the default port is 8080. Oki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
begin Tom Cook quotation: > Oh boy, here comes a flame war... No kidding. > > The Irish, without a shadow of a doubt, make the best beer in the > world. They are just damn good at it. After them, and I am trying to > be impartial here, we Australians do a damn good beer. It's not > exotic, it doesn't have bits floating in it, it's just cold, clean, > smooth and refreshing. Next, the Germans are very capable beer > makers. After that the whole world really goes to hell, with the > French-speakers only not coming last because the Americans do. As a > certain comedy team pointed out, it's like making love in a canoe... > Then what you've tasted must be quite limited. There is a lot of good beer in the USA, but it doesn't come from the big-name companies, and you won't see adverts for it on TV. And it is nothing whatsoever like making love in a canoe, which indeed the megabrews (Coors, et al) are. However, I have no idea what good US brews would be available in Australia. It sounds like you're a lager fan, which is the only explanation I can think of for your low opinion of Belgian ales (which I assume is part of what you're dismissing as "the French-speakers"). Well, to each their own on that. There are some lagers I like, particularly the best German doppelbocks (Spaten Optimator, Ayinger Celebrator/Fortunator, Paulaner Salvator). By and large, though, I prefer ales. I like the heavier feel of them, and the lower carbonation level (on average). As for Australia, I know of nothing from that continent that is worth drinking. Then again I've only had Foster's, which is garbage. What Australian brews do you like that I might be able to find in the USA? Craig pgpuKvMZIm2Be.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Uninstalling programs
Am Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2002 00:44 schrieb curtis: > I'm sorry for this stupid question, but how do you unmake or uninstall a > program that wasn't install through apt-get or dselect? Hi, I only know two tools for your problem alien - Install LSB, Red Hat, Stampede, and Slackware Packages with dpkg checkinstall - CheckInstall installations tracker I don't know if there might be a problem to delete the programfolder of the installed program under /usr/local. Maybe you can find the answer in the makefile of the program. gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
> Oh boy, here comes a flame war... > > > The Irish, without a shadow of a doubt, make the best beer in the > world. They are just damn good at it. After them, and I am trying to > be impartial here, we Australians do a damn good beer. It's not > exotic, it doesn't have bits floating in it, it's just cold, clean, > smooth and refreshing. Next, the Germans are very capable beer > makers. After that the whole world really goes to hell, with the > French-speakers only not coming last because the Americans do. As a > certain comedy team pointed out, it's like making love in a canoe... > Can you give me an example of good Aussie beer that might be available in the US. The only one I can think of is Fosters, I wasn't overly impressed with it (as in I will drink one, but I won't buy one). You're right about American beers, especially the three largest brewers. Are we the only ones that produce a light beer? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uninstalling programs
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 03:44:14PM -0700, curtis wrote: > I'm sorry for this stupid question, but how do you unmake or uninstall > a program that wasn't install through apt-get or dselect? rm. :) Some programs have a 'make uninstall'. Others you just have to pick apart by hand. If you install each third-party package in /usr/local/stow/ and use stow to create a symlink farm in /usr/local, then uninstalling is a matter of 'cd /usr/local/stow; stow -D ; rm -rf '. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Uninstalling programs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 22 May 2002, curtis wrote: > I'm sorry for this stupid question, but how do you unmake or uninstall a > program that wasn't install through apt-get or dselect? If your lucky, it'll have come with a script. If you're not lucky, get ready to have fun with rm, some patience and time. - -- Baloo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE87C+ENtWkM9Ny9xURAq/QAJ4xC6Qz5sYuHHE9ooI4y68HT8mm8wCffoIY ldaX9qMe2QqleR9r3qVwomM= =/ntY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound problems - newbie
Am Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2002 20:54 schrieb Kent West: > The lspci command will list the PCI devices in your system. Since the > sound card doesn't show up, I would assume that the card is not a PCI > device. It has been my experience that PCI devices are a lot easier to > configure than ISA devices (unless the PCI device is really new, in > which case the support for the device may not yet exist). > Hi, I think, if you got an ISA soundcard, it might be helpful to have a look on the tools below, after checkout if your kernel is copmpiled for your soundcard and if you're able to load the neccessary kernel-modules, like Ken wrote. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search isapnp libisapnp-dev - ISA Plug-And-Play development libraries. sndconfig - Easy soundcard configuration isapnptools - ISA Plug-And-Play configuration utilities. You can install these tools with apt-get install sndconfig libisapnp-dev isapnptools > I know it's frustrating, but keep plugging on. It's a different world, > but worth it. > Yes, it is ... gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon spinner/toolbar broken?
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 04:33:26PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: > In your message of: 22 May 2002 17:37:17 EDT, you write: > >Hello. I seem to have broken galeon's tool bar/spinner. I believe it was > >due to the gdk_imlib packages installed when I tried out kde3 (see > >#debian-kde). > > Yes, the same thing happened to me. It took me a while to even notice > it, so I just kept using galeon without the spinner. I did as you > did, and removed kde3, and reinstalled imlib and other things that had > come with kde3, but none of that worked. Well, I purged everything that depended on libgtk1.2 and removed all gnome2 packages. I just apt-get install'd galeon and its fine. I'm going to restore my selections and see if it was one of those that caused the issue. -- Mental ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Factorials were someone's attempt to make math *look* exciting. --Steven Wright GPG public key: http://www.neverlight.com/Mental.asc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Verify bounce-debian-user-digest=steidler=mchsi.com@lists.debian.org for tony@lockergnome.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 22 May 2002, Tony Steidler-Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the note, > > Your email has been received, though it hasn't yet been delivered. In > order for your email to be delivered, you'll need to reply to this > message. Wow, I'm not sure which is more broken: The mailserver or the incorrect FQDN. Someone unsubscribe this low grade moron. - -- Baloo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE87CzdNtWkM9Ny9xURAk9xAJ926ILcIutC5LF30VXbUPqVG68m5QCgo2FI /I/LzoNuOhq3TXSxo+IaSdo= =PqJ4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
On 0, Daniel Toffetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > O> > > > > Beer is beer. Budwiser makes more beer because they have > > > > > > bigger horses, that's all. > > > > > > Aaarrgghh !!! Hunt the heretic and put him in jail !! :-D > > > > > > > > No, no, no. American beer is American beer. Come to England and > > > > > try a decent bitter or ale sometime ... > > > > > > If they are close to the Irish Guinness, I'll follow you :) > > > > No no no no. This guys having you on. Ale and bitter are a practic > > joke we play on tourists :) kind of an alcoholic pi55. Stick to the > > Guinness or Canadian beer or anything but, repeat anything but our > > beer. Only our wine is worse. > > > > Harvey > > A joke ??? Too sad I missed it... can you explain ? Oh boy, here comes a flame war... The Irish, without a shadow of a doubt, make the best beer in the world. They are just damn good at it. After them, and I am trying to be impartial here, we Australians do a damn good beer. It's not exotic, it doesn't have bits floating in it, it's just cold, clean, smooth and refreshing. Next, the Germans are very capable beer makers. After that the whole world really goes to hell, with the French-speakers only not coming last because the Americans do. As a certain comedy team pointed out, it's like making love in a canoe... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "If it weren't for electricity we'd all be watching television by candlelight." - George Gobol Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au pgplB9UnDi218.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Acroread segfault
Lo, on Wednesday, May 22, Michael Jinks did write: > Hi, all. I'm mostly looking for tips on where to seek more info, since > at this point I'm completely puzzled and lack the background to really > dig into this issue. > > I've just set up the first of a batch of new Dell Optiplex GX240's, > running Woody. These are going to be desktops for researchers, so > reading PDF files is extremely important. Unfortunately, Acroread > segfaults when it tries to display to the screen. It works fine when > the display is exported elsewhere or to a VNC session; but it segfaults > when I run the program on my own desktop and export the display to the > new Dell. From all of that I surmise that the problem arises from an > interaction between Acroread and the X driver which is actually painting > the display on these machines. I can't tell from the parts of your X log that you included, but what color depth are you running on these machines? In my experience, Acroread really doesn't like 24bit color at all; it's much happer in either 16bit or 32bit. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL/Query question, help.
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 02:59:20PM +0800, louie miranda wrote: First off, if you're going to ask a new question don't reply to a pre-existing thread and just change the subject, also delete the "In-Reply-To:" header. > Hi, i was just wondering... i have inserted 1 row on my table, > how come when i did lock table. Mysql did not see one of my insert. That makes no sense. > Please check mail below, thanks. > mysql> select * from louie2; > ++---+ > | id | firstname | > ++---+ > | 1 | louie | > ++---+ > 1 row in set (0.00 sec) > > mysql> lock table louie read; > Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) Mysql did the right thing. Your expectations are wrong. Locking a table does not modify or effect rows, it just locks the table. e.g.: mysql> purge master logs to 'log.128'; Query OK, 0 rows affected (2.32 sec) mysql> Doesn't effect any rows either. Try reading the relevant parts of the manual (I would say read the whole manual, but it *is* a bit overwhelming in this case). -- My last cigarette was roughly 30 days, 13 hours, 43 minutes ago. YHBW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon user agent causing problems?
I had this problem when using tinyproxy with galeon. Changed my proxy to oops and works fine now. Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roach, Mark R.) writes: > I have been unable to get to www.cdw.com using galeon for a while now. I > get the message "Redirection limit for this URL exceeded." strangely, it > works fine under Mozilla. > > According to the fine folks responding to galeon's bugzilla, this is a > user agent problem. So, my questions are these, > 1) Can any debian user open www.cdw.com? > > 2) How can I change the user agent to not include the "Debian/1.2.1-2" > part? I have tried editing ~/.galeon/mozilla/galeon/prefs.js but it > seems to be recreated every time galeon starts up. > > > Thanks, > > Mark Roach > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root SSH permitted by default (was: how does root run a graphical prog)
On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:40:15 -0700 "Vineet Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Michael D. Schleif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020521 12:10]: > > Here's my lack of understanding: > > > > [a] ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] requires cracking only one (1) string: > > [1] root's password > > > > [b] ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] requires cracking three (3) separate > > strings: > > [1] mortal_user's username (without this, there is not even system > > access); > > [2] mortal_user's password; and > > [3] root's password > > > > Since _god_ on a given system is almost always root or administrator, > > I fail to see how [a] can be considered at least as secure as [b]. > > > > What am I missing? > > The point is that once you have [b1] and [b2], [b3] is as easy to get > by dropping in a new '~/bin/su' which will read a password, pretend to > the user that there was a typo, read it again, email you the password, > delete itself, and then perform the real /bin/su. Correct. Assuming that the cracker has [b1] & [b2] & the system is allowed to send the message out. However the cracker must gain the above before becoming root. They can't simply step right in via root allowed logins and password authentication. > So this boils down to [b] is better because of [b1], which I think we'll > all agree isn't *that* difficult to get, if you know anyone who has an > account on the machine, or even just patience and a watchful eye. > Generally usernames aren't kept super-super secret. Which in and of itself is a good argument for using keyed access rather than password based authentication for SSH (or other remote shells). -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uninstalling programs
I'm sorry for this stupid question, but how do you unmake or uninstall a program that wasn't install through apt-get or dselect? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian user - a bunch of problems
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Glen Lee Edwards wrote: > 3) Is there a way to get Pine to work on Debian? I can't find a > package for it, so I installed a Pine rpm using alien. It installed > fine, but now errors out stating that it can't load the necessary > libraries. But some of the libraries it says it's missing aren't on > the Red Hat 7.2 box that I've been running Pine on (libcom_err.so.3)? > You can simply get the binary from http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/unix.html and move it to /usr/bin or another proper location. It works fine. Dan Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bigfork, MT. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon spinner/toolbar broken?
In your message of: 22 May 2002 17:37:17 EDT, you write: >Hello. I seem to have broken galeon's tool bar/spinner. I believe it was >due to the gdk_imlib packages installed when I tried out kde3 (see >#debian-kde). Yes, the same thing happened to me. It took me a while to even notice it, so I just kept using galeon without the spinner. I did as you did, and removed kde3, and reinstalled imlib and other things that had come with kde3, but none of that worked. The next day mozilla 1+rc2-3 came into sid, and after installing that my spinner came back. I am not entirely sure what exactly fixed the problem, but you might trying reinstalling or upgrading mozilla and its dependencies. What really bothers me though, is that I can't get anti-aliased fonts to work in galeon on my laptop, where they actually are useful. On my laptop, anti-aliased fonts work fine with mozilla, and on my desktop anti-aliased fonts work fine with galeon (and mozilla). I followed the directions for setting anti-aliasing in galeon and mozilla, but it doesn't work. I copied over the configuration stuff from my desktop to my laptop, but they still don't work. I know they are still pretty much an unsupported bonus feature, but it does disturb me that it works on one machine but not the other, when they are both pretty similar Debian Sid machines. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CNET PRO 200WL network card and woody
Hi, I'm trying to do a network install of Debian woody, and cannot get the network card to work properly. I have a CNET PRO 200WL card. Casting about the internet reveals that I should use the dmfe (Davicom DM910x/DM980x) module. I installed that, but no go. I can ping myself, but nothing else. Any help? Other info:, it's a dual boot with OK networking under the Other Operating System. I've set up other Debian boxes, so I'm confident the domain, gateway, DNS, netmask stuff is OK. I don't subscribe to this list, so I'd appreciate a response to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as the list. Thanks, Glenn Murray http://www.mines.edu/~gmurray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root SSH permitted by default (was: how does root run a graphical prog)
Vineet Kumar wrote: > > * Michael D. Schleif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020521 12:10]: > > Here's my lack of understanding: > > > > [a] ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] requires cracking only one (1) string: > > [1] root's password > > > > [b] ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] requires cracking three (3) separate > > strings: > > [1] mortal_user's username (without this, there is not even system > > access); > > [2] mortal_user's password; and > > [3] root's password > > > > Since _god_ on a given system is almost always root or administrator, I > > fail to see how [a] can be considered at least as secure as [b]. > > > > What am I missing? > > The point is that once you have [b1] and [b2], [b3] is as easy to get > by dropping in a new '~/bin/su' which will read a password, pretend to > the user that there was a typo, read it again, email you the password, > delete itself, and then perform the real /bin/su. I agree with this; but, the assumptions . . . > The idea is that a user account which often su's is as good as a root > account. One that often sudo's is even easier (if you actually have the > password and not just a backdoor of some sort). This is where I begin to have problems with your argument . . . > So this boils down to [b] is better because of [b1], which I think we'll > all agree isn't *that* difficult to get, if you know anyone who has an > account on the machine, or even just patience and a watchful eye. > Generally usernames aren't kept super-super secret. This thread split off of an earlier thread; but, my context begins with this new thread. Therefore, we are talking about remote users and ssh access to remote systems. Let's begin with your assumption: ``... if you know anyone who has an account on the machine ...'' You are correct that this is a problem -- one problem among many, many problems. This ``socialization'' exploit is always an issue with networked computing environments. Nevertheless, the typical social circle is very small relative to the total global population. In other words, the number of people who cannot know ``anyone who has an account on the machine'' is at least six (6) orders of magnitude greater than else. Whether or not this falls under security by obscurity is irrelevant -- how can you argue that this security measure has *NO* value? Having followed this thread since it spun off, I do not recall anybody saying that such a countermeasure is adequate, in and of itself. However, it helps me deflect bushels full of script kiddies off of my systems . . . What am I missing? -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 888.250.3987 Dare to fix things before they break . . . Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Verify bounce-debian-user-digest=steidler=mchsi.com@lists.debian.org for tony@lockergnome.com
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Re: New Debian user - a bunch of problems
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 04:06:34PM -0500, Glen Lee Edwards wrote: > Before I begin, I want to state that I'm very impressed with Debian. It's > obvious that some very talented people put in a lot of quality time on > it. I now have it installed on all 3 of my servers, which formerly ran > Red Hat. The base system install went great on all of them. I'm now > having a bunch of nagging problems getting individual packages to work: > > I have apt-get set to load the testing directory. > > 1) I can't get X to work right. It installed fine, and starts ok. But > screen resolution is something like 640x480 when it's supposed to be > 1152x864. I have xfree86 4.1.0-16 installed. Any suggestions will be > appreciated. I need X to run ASAP because I have to use xemacs to update > by hand a 6000 line database that's due tomorrow evening. BTW, if anyone > is using an IBM 2235 C50 monitor, can you send me the refresh rates? Have you tried using the debconf configurator for X? If not, you could try (after backing up your XF86Config-4) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (this is off the top of my head, may have the package name wrong). I found that this was the easiest way to get my monitor configured. If you don't know the sync rates, you could try the 'medium' level which gives reasonable defaults. -- David Roundy http://civet.berkeley.edu/droundy/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian user - a bunch of problems
* Glen Lee Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020522 14:07]: > Before I begin, I want to state that I'm very impressed with Debian. > It's obvious that some very talented people put in a lot of quality > time on it. I now have it installed on all 3 of my servers, which > formerly ran Red Hat. The base system install went great on all of > them. I'm now having a bunch of nagging problems getting individual > packages to work: > > I have apt-get set to load the testing directory. > > 1) I can't get X to work right. It installed fine, and starts ok. > But screen resolution is something like 640x480 when it's supposed to > be 1152x864. I have xfree86 4.1.0-16 installed. Any suggestions will > be appreciated. I need X to run ASAP because I have to use xemacs to > update by hand a 6000 line database that's due tomorrow evening. BTW, Why do you have to do this in xemacs? Try emacs on the console if you're a die-hard emacs user, or try vim on the console if you can be swayed to the dark(light?) side. > if anyone is using an IBM 2235 C50 monitor, can you send me the > refresh rates? Vertical refresh rate (low; high) (Hz):50; 120 Maximum Horizontal frequency (low; high) (kHz):30; 54 So that would be HorizSync 30-54 VertRefresh 50-120 Did you even try before you asked us? I got those numbers here, which is the first placce you should have looked. http://www.google.com/search?q=ibm+2235+c50+refresh&btnI=I Anyway, now take a sharpie and tatoo those numbers on the back of your monitor so you'll never need to look them up again. > > 2). The mouse is going nuts. When I move it around it does all kinds > of weird things, including acting like I've pressed one of the 3 > buttons when I haven't, or sen't kill commands to fvwm, etc. I have a > Logitech M-C48 wheel mouse. If any of you have the console and X > settings for it, I'd appreciate it. Since you mention "console and X settings" I assume you want to use it on both the console and in X. Thus, simply removing gpm as others suggest (and no doubt others still will yet) is not a solution. My guess is that your mouse (like my logitech wheel trackball) will use the imps2 protocol. Select this protocol in your gpm config and verify that it works correctly on the console. Also ensure that you have "repeat_type = raw" in your gpm.conf . Then tell X that your mouse is an ImPS/2 on /dev/gpmdata. I have this in my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 : Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device""/dev/gpmdata" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2 Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection > 3) Is there a way to get Pine to work on Debian? I can't find a > package for it, so I installed a Pine rpm using alien. It installed > fine, but now errors out stating that it can't load the necessary > libraries. But some of the libraries it says it's missing aren't on > the Red Hat 7.2 box that I've been running Pine on (libcom_err.so.3)? Yes. The pine licensing forbids distributing binaries compiled from modified source, and in order to build a .deb, we need to at least add a debian directory which includes the control file, etc. Unfortunately, this means that we can't include a binary pine package. Fortunately, there is a source package, and a package called pine-tracker which will let you know when a new source package is available such that you can rebuild it. Of course, the right way to do it is to use mutt. =) > > 4) I can't send mail. I've installed sendmail, largely because I've > been using it for years, and this is a production box. I don't have > time right now to learn another MTA. When I try to send mail using > Mutt, which I've never used, it keeps giving me excuses as to why the > operating system won't allow it to send mail. The latest excuse is: > "Warning: Cannot use HostStatusDirectory = > /var/lib/sendmail/host_status: No such file or directory" Sorry, can't help you here. Not a sendmailie. As a hint, though, if you're just looking for a pretty vanilla MTA installation, just give exim a shot. Just install it and run eximconfig and you should be up and running, without having to learn another MTA. It's really quite simple. > 5) I run several MyPHPNuke boards on some domains I host. When I try > to access the domains, instead of opening the site, it downloads the > file instead. Apparently it can't figure out that it's supposed to > execute PHP. I have PHP4 installed. Suggestions? I've got this in my httpd.conf, and it seems to work: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php4 .php3 .phtml .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps good times, Vineet -- Currently seeking opportunities in the SF Bay Area Please see http://www.doorstop.net/resume.shtml pgpTUr4RnC1K3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to rebuild Woody kernel (Newbie)
If you're using X, (I don't remember from the original post), but synaptic--in my opinion, is more intuitive than dselect, capt, or deity. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian user - a bunch of problems
Brian wrote: 2). The mouse is going nuts. When I move it around it does all kinds of weird things, including acting like I've pressed one of the 3 buttons when I haven't, or sen't kill commands to fvwm, etc. I have a Logitech M-C48 wheel mouse. If any of you have the console and X settings for it, I'd appreciate it. I had a similar problem. Do you have gpm running? ( I assume you know Ctrl-Alt-Fi takes you to the ith console to get a shell when X isn't working. X is F7.) Kill gpm if it is running and hopefully your mouse will start working. Brian Or configure gpm to repeat the "raw" mouse data, and configure XF86Configure-4 to read "/dev/gpmdata" instead of where the mouse is currently set. Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning an jigdo ISO
No, I think we're talking about different things. I have just 1 CD that I burned off of a jigdo image. I know nothing about any other CDs. So, my question is why can't I install from the image I downloaded. Curtis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Norton Ghost
Am Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2002 15:58 schrieb Matthew Daubenspeck: > > I've done disk-image to disk. I suspect that if you'll boot off your > > Debian CD with something like > >linux root=/dev/hda1 > > and then re-run lilo, this might fix the problem. > > I tried this and it still runs the install on the CD. How can I get > around the install? I apologize in advance for the newvie questions :) Hi, just type 'rescue' when boot: appears. Or switch to a console with alt + F1 or crtl + alt + F1, you might have to use F2 or 4 (something similar) instead of F1. Than you can try to mount your rootpartition on /mnt and type chroot /mnt and than lilo. Probably there is an option to boot directly from the lilo-prompt your root-partition like Ken wrote. gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning an jigdo ISO
#include curtis wrote on Wed May 22, 2002 um 12:17:35PM: > I would love to know just what I am supposed to do. Use CD#1. > "The packages on the CDs are sorted by popularity: CD 1 contains the > installation system and the most popular packages. CD 2 contains What is not clear? CD1 has the complete installation system, others do not. Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- Lambda-Kalkuel ist fuer Hacker so was wie das, was fuer Jedis "Die Macht" darstellt. Das, worauf man zurueckgreift, wenn man ganz abartig schwierige Dinge erledigen muss. -- tf in #debian.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Emacs and shell variables
Lo, on Wednesday, May 22, Stefan Bellon did write: > Dave Carrigan wrote: > > Stefan Bellon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [snip] > > > > gdm, but without the rest of GNOME, only gdm. > > > gdm won't evaluate your .bashrc to set the environment variables. The > > idomatic solution is to create a ~/.environment file where you set all > > of your environment variables, then each of your other .rc files > > (.bashrc, .gnomerc, .xsession, etc.) source that file. > > I know very little of the login process. Does gdm evaluate the > ~/.environment file? Or the ~/.xsession file? If neither, then the > above solution doesn't give me any advantage. If it does evaluate one, > then yes, this is clearly the way to go. I *think*, although I'm not entirely certain, that a gdm login will end up reading .xsession. It's been a long time since I've used gdm, so I'm a little unclear on the details. However, I don't remember whether it ever creates a login shell for you. If it doesn't, you might try putting the following on the first line of .xsession: #!/bin/bash --login This will force it to be a login shell, which should source the appropriate bash dotfiles. In my case, I log in on the console and run startx from within a login shell, so it pretty much just works. (If you're not too attached to graphical login managers, you may want to try this tactic; I've always found it a lot easier to understand and configure.) Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root SSH permitted by default (was: how does root run a graphical prog)
* Michael D. Schleif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020521 12:10]: > Here's my lack of understanding: > > [a] ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] requires cracking only one (1) string: > [1] root's password > > [b] ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] requires cracking three (3) separate > strings: > [1] mortal_user's username (without this, there is not even system > access); > [2] mortal_user's password; and > [3] root's password > > Since _god_ on a given system is almost always root or administrator, I > fail to see how [a] can be considered at least as secure as [b]. > > What am I missing? The point is that once you have [b1] and [b2], [b3] is as easy to get by dropping in a new '~/bin/su' which will read a password, pretend to the user that there was a typo, read it again, email you the password, delete itself, and then perform the real /bin/su. The idea is that a user account which often su's is as good as a root account. One that often sudo's is even easier (if you actually have the password and not just a backdoor of some sort). So this boils down to [b] is better because of [b1], which I think we'll all agree isn't *that* difficult to get, if you know anyone who has an account on the machine, or even just patience and a watchful eye. Generally usernames aren't kept super-super secret. good times, Vineet -- Currently seeking opportunities in the SF Bay Area Please see http://www.doorstop.net/resume.shtml pgpPqyKtZaNlQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to rebuild Woody kernel (Newbie)
WARNING: Much text follows. CC'd to list for archival purposes.
Kent
DSC Siltec wrote:
I've installed Woody, but have discovered that I don't have
(a) ALSA for my sound (alternately ymfpci.o) or
(b) support for my USB (which I assume will be necessary if I want to
upload my digital camera pictures to my Linux box.)
So I found out I have to rebuild my kernel. Never having done this
before,
I went to the Linux Kernel HOWTO, and pulled up HOWTO Rebuild the
Kernel.
The stuff looks like greek to me.
For one thing, it starts a person out in BASH, switches to X [do you
really need X to rebuild the kernel???
No.
], loops out to telnet terminals,
and gets me completely lost in the process.
For another thing, I am not at all sure which modules I'll be needing,
and it looks like I'll have to know that. I can pick up my filesystem
from module okay, and I can figure out my chip, and I can probably
safely assume that I have a PCI motherboard. But most of these things
were bypassed in the initial woody installation.
Not sure I can help a lot here.
Ideally, it would be nice to get a list of the modules that I already
have and their installation values -- I am sure that they would be
listed somewhere in ETC, if I knew where to look.
"modules" that have been built/installed will be in
/lib/modules/[kernel-version]. But that doesn't account for the things
that are compiled in (ie not "modules"). You can also look in
/usr/src/[kernel-version]/.config for clues, assuming you're not running
a pre-compiled kernel (which I suspect you are, since you don't know how
to compile a kernel).
So I was wondering -- are there any better howtos out there, possibly
more in line with Woody? Or is there a newbie guide on rebuilding the
kernel?
Anyhow, this looks like a fairly scary process when I may wreck the
system and have no idea what I am doing (kid at the wheel of a
steamroller syndrome... what's this button do?).
You won't break anything permanently by trying different things in your
configuration, so feel free to experiment/learn. As long as you're
fairly conservative in your choices, you most likely won't hose the
system too badly. You should be able to always fall back to your
previous working kernel if necessary.
I make no claims to this being a "better howto", but it should be more
Debian-specific.
Kent's 10-Step Procedure to Compiling a Debian Kernel
(I may leave a step or two out, but this is the gist)
1. Run "dselect". Choose "Update". Choose "Select". "space bar" to get
out of the Help screens. Use "/" (without the quotes) to start search.
Search for "kernel-source". Mark for installation the 2.4.18 or so.
1b. Use "/" to search for "kernel-package". Mark it for installation
also. "Enter" to get back to the main dselect menu.
1c. Choose "Install". This will download a file in /usr/src with a .tgz
extension, as well as install "kernel-package".
2. "cd /usr/src"
3. "gunzip kernel-source-2.4.18.tar.tgz" (or whatever the file is
named). This will unzip (decompress) the file.
4. "tar -xvf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar". This will untar the file (x
means extract, v means "be verbose", f means "use the file named ...").
A new subdirectory named kernel-source-2.4.18 will be created with all
the untarred files under it. You can also do steps 3 and 4 in one tar
command, but I never do; habit is the only reason. I think you just add
the "z" switch to tar, such as "tar -xvzf 'filename'".
5. "ln -s kernel-source-2.4.18 linux". This will create a symbolic link
("alias" in Mac-speak; "shortcut" in Windows-speak, but more powerful
than either) to the directory "kernel-source-2.4.18"; the symlink is
named "linux". This step is not absolutely necessary, but it's the usual
way of doing things. "ls -l" will show you that "linux" is a "pointer"
to "/etc/src/kernel-source-2.4.18".
Pause and Breathe. You now have the kernel sources installed. You
haven't done anything with them yet, but they're installed.
6. "cd /usr/src/linux" (which because linux is a symlink, accomplishes
the same thing as "cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18").
7. "make menuconfig". This will start a curses-based (text-based)
menu-driven application. There are a lot of choices here, and many of
them won't make sense to you at all. Take the time to look at most all
of them (some of them you'll know you don't need, like SCSI support if
you have an all-IDE system, or Amateur Radio Support if you're not a
ham) and read the HELP on them if they look relevant. A lot of the time
the HELP will suggest whether you should include it or not, and
generally when in doubt, leave things set the way they are. Some things
to check out:
* the correct processor for your system (AMD vs Pentium vs P4, etc)
* Symmetric Multi-Processing; "No" if you only have a single processor
* Loadable module support; "Yes" to all three sub-items.
* Parallel port support; "Yes" if you have a parallel printer. "No"
Galeon spinner/toolbar broken?
Hello. I seem to have broken galeon's tool bar/spinner. I believe it was
due to the gdk_imlib packages installed when I tried out kde3 (see
#debian-kde).
Since then, I've purged kde3 and rolled back to kde2. Still no tool bar.
I renamed my .galeon dir and ran through the wizard again.
Still no toolbar.
I tried:
apt-get --reinstall install `apt-cache depends galeon|grep -v
libesd-alsa0| grep -v libstdc| awk '/Depends/ {print $2} '`
And reinstalled all the packages galeon depends on. Still, no tool bar.
Should I remove the package entirely? Should I purge gnome and reinstall
it? Fortunately I have broadband and a fast mirror nearby. I'm just
running out of ideas.
Or is this a known problem that incidentally coincides with my
experimentation with kde3?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: GCJ and C/C++ applications how is it possible ?
[...] dman> $ ./a.out dman> Hello World thanks but I all ready knew that !!! dman> dman> | into a library and to use it into dman> | dman> | a GTK+ application dman> | a Qt application dman> | dman> | ?? dman> dman> To make use of existing C/C++ libraries requires writing JNI (or CNI) dman> bridge code in C/C++ to provide a Java interface that your Java code dman> can access. GCJ doesn't provide auto wrappers like that, it just dman> turns your java source into native binaries. I dont want to use a C/C++ library inside a java programm, I whave a set java classes compiled into a native library (with compilation option shared from gcj) and want to use this library into a Qt or GTK+ application. Isnt it possible ? See this from http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.1/changes.html : " # JNI and CNI invocation interfaces were implemented, so gcj-compiled Java code can now be called from a C/C++ application. dman> dman> For GTK+ you can take a look at http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/. thank you I will read this -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acroread segfault
> > In case it helps, I'm appending some output from the XFree86 log at the > bottom of this message. The video card is an ATI built into the > system's motherboard, I don't know much about the chipset and the log > output doesn't tell me much either; if it will help, I can probably find > out more from Dell. I can also send along the output of 'strace > acroread ' if that would be useful. > > I'm aware of xpdf and I've recommended it as a workaround for now, but I > expect my users to need the feature set of Acroread itself sooner or > later. > I see nothing in the X log that is suspicious. If you run acroread from a terminal does it print any useful errors/messages? You could also try running it under strace, that may help pinpoint the problem. Of course this would be a whole lot simpler if the app's source was available, but we won't make this into a free/non-free debate. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian user - a bunch of problems
Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > 2). The mouse is going nuts. When I move it around it does all > > kinds of weird things, including acting like I've pressed one of the > > 3 buttons when I haven't, or sen't kill commands to fvwm, etc. I > > have a Logitech M-C48 wheel mouse. If any of you have the console > > and X settings for it, I'd appreciate it. > > > I had a similar problem. Do you have gpm running? ( I assume you > know Ctrl-Alt-Fi takes you to the ith console to get a shell when X > isn't working. X is F7.) Kill gpm if it is running and hopefully > your mouse will start working. Brian And then, if you're not going to do much work on the console, i.e., outside of X, do: apt-get --purge remove gpm gpm is a package to allow you to use the mouse on the console. If you think you'll be using console mode equally as much as X you'll have to look at getting X to play nice with gpm. Something about using /dev/gpmdata as the mouse device in X, but that's just off the top of my head so look up the relevant info. Gary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Norton Ghost
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:18:39PM +0200, gerhard wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2002 15:26 schrieb Matthew Daubenspeck: > > > it does it scroll 09 09 09 09 across the screen... > > > > Hello, > > I'm not shure if it will work, but i think (only an idea) it's because of > lilo. > So try to start your root system with the rescue cdrom or floppy: > > mount /dev/rootpartition /mnt > chroot /mnt > lilo > exit > umount > reboot After messing with it for FAR too long, I finally tried exactly this and it worked like a charm. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: New Debian user - a bunch of problems
2). The mouse is going nuts. When I move it around it does all kinds of weird things, including acting like I've pressed one of the 3 buttons when I haven't, or sen't kill commands to fvwm, etc. I have a Logitech M-C48 wheel mouse. If any of you have the console and X settings for it, I'd appreciate it. I had a similar problem. Do you have gpm running? ( I assume you know Ctrl-Alt-Fi takes you to the ith console to get a shell when X isn't working. X is F7.) Kill gpm if it is running and hopefully your mouse will start working. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Acroread segfault
Hi, all. I'm mostly looking for tips on where to seek more info, since at this point I'm completely puzzled and lack the background to really dig into this issue. I've just set up the first of a batch of new Dell Optiplex GX240's, running Woody. These are going to be desktops for researchers, so reading PDF files is extremely important. Unfortunately, Acroread segfaults when it tries to display to the screen. It works fine when the display is exported elsewhere or to a VNC session; but it segfaults when I run the program on my own desktop and export the display to the new Dell. From all of that I surmise that the problem arises from an interaction between Acroread and the X driver which is actually painting the display on these machines. For what its worth, Acroread will run if it's started without loading any document, but the segfault happens as soon as we try to open and display anything. That would make me suspect the font server, but as I said it runs fine in a VNC session. So far, Acroread is the only program we've found which exhibits this behavior. I'd try to get support from Adobe but I expect they'll just point the finger at XFree86. In case it helps, I'm appending some output from the XFree86 log at the bottom of this message. The video card is an ATI built into the system's motherboard, I don't know much about the chipset and the log output doesn't tell me much either; if it will help, I can probably find out more from Dell. I can also send along the output of 'strace acroread ' if that would be useful. I'm aware of xpdf and I've recommended it as a workaround for now, but I expect my users to need the feature set of Acroread itself sooner or later. Thanks for any tips. -mrj Remainder of posting is small excerpt from XFree log. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon May 20 08:43:30 2002 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor" (**) | |-->Device "Generic Video Card" (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104" (**) XKB: model: "pc104" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse" (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse" (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (++) using VT number 7 (WW) Cannot open APM (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) LoadModule: "scanpci" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) UnloadModule: "scanpci" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a [remainder of file elided to save bandwidth, available if anyone thinks it will be useful] -- # Michael Jinks, IB # JFI/MRSEC/EFI Computing # University of Chicago # Reader! Think not that technical information ought not be called speech; -- Anonymous, "How to decrypt a DVD" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Norton Ghost
Am Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2002 15:26 schrieb Matthew Daubenspeck: > it does it scroll 09 09 09 09 across the screen... > Hello, I'm not shure if it will work, but i think (only an idea) it's because of lilo. So try to start your root system with the rescue cdrom or floppy: mount /dev/rootpartition /mnt chroot /mnt lilo exit umount reboot Maybe you can find in these documents something useful: /usr/share/doc/lilo/README.common.problems /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz There are some tools who can doing a disk to disk copy or backup partimage - Linux/UNIX utility to save partitions in a compressed image file mondo http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo cpio ? But I never tried them. gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GUI answering machine app
I'd like to set up my Debian box to be an answering machine. Is there a GUI (gnome, kde, X) app that will act as a front end to vm? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lost Library.
David Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > I'm a newbie, but I've tried everything I know so far, to no avail. > libmp3lame.so is nowhere to be found on my system, through apt-get, or > dselect, or onsite. I need it to make up the final step in Eroaster. > Would somebody point me in the right direction please. lame isn't included with Debian by default due to mp3 patents or something. So, add a third party source to /etc/apt/sources.list such as: http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main and then: # apt-get update && apt-get install liblame0 -- Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lost Library.
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 04:54:12AM +0800, David Palmer wrote: > I'm a newbie, but I've tried everything I know so far, to no avail. > libmp3lame.so is nowhere to be found on my system, through apt-get, or > dselect, or onsite. I need it to make up the final step in Eroaster. > Would somebody point me in the right direction please. LAME isn't packaged for patent reasons. Type 'lame' into http://www.google.com/ to download it for yourself - it's the first hit. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Debian user - a bunch of problems
Before I begin, I want to state that I'm very impressed with Debian. It's obvious that some very talented people put in a lot of quality time on it. I now have it installed on all 3 of my servers, which formerly ran Red Hat. The base system install went great on all of them. I'm now having a bunch of nagging problems getting individual packages to work: I have apt-get set to load the testing directory. 1) I can't get X to work right. It installed fine, and starts ok. But screen resolution is something like 640x480 when it's supposed to be 1152x864. I have xfree86 4.1.0-16 installed. Any suggestions will be appreciated. I need X to run ASAP because I have to use xemacs to update by hand a 6000 line database that's due tomorrow evening. BTW, if anyone is using an IBM 2235 C50 monitor, can you send me the refresh rates? 2). The mouse is going nuts. When I move it around it does all kinds of weird things, including acting like I've pressed one of the 3 buttons when I haven't, or sen't kill commands to fvwm, etc. I have a Logitech M-C48 wheel mouse. If any of you have the console and X settings for it, I'd appreciate it. 3) Is there a way to get Pine to work on Debian? I can't find a package for it, so I installed a Pine rpm using alien. It installed fine, but now errors out stating that it can't load the necessary libraries. But some of the libraries it says it's missing aren't on the Red Hat 7.2 box that I've been running Pine on (libcom_err.so.3)? 4) I can't send mail. I've installed sendmail, largely because I've been using it for years, and this is a production box. I don't have time right now to learn another MTA. When I try to send mail using Mutt, which I've never used, it keeps giving me excuses as to why the operating system won't allow it to send mail. The latest excuse is: "Warning: Cannot use HostStatusDirectory = /var/lib/sendmail/host_status: No such file or directory" 5) I run several MyPHPNuke boards on some domains I host. When I try to access the domains, instead of opening the site, it downloads the file instead. Apparently it can't figure out that it's supposed to execute PHP. I have PHP4 installed. Suggestions? Glen
Re: Wordperfect 8 on Woody? libXpm-problem
> Is the problem perhaps that libXpm.so.4.11 is not the correct version > for WordPerfect? You probably need to install the libc5 version of libXpm. Same version number, but located in the directory /usr/lib/libc5-compat. It can be found in the package xpm4.7, located in the "oldlibs" section of Debian distributions. (eagerly awaiting the day when OpenOffice has a WordPerfect conversion filter...) -- Kevin McCartyPhysics Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] Princeton University www.princeton.edu/~kmccarty Princeton, NJ 08544 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: patch or "sparse package" support under dpkg
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 12:44:39PM -0700, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: > On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 10:03:40AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Well, to some extent. But there's no reason you can't install another > > file in its place once it's diverted. > > Manually, right? But I want to do it with dpkg. :) > > I want to be able to install letters-1.0p1.deb (to change just one file) > and then later letters-2.0.deb (replace all the files). In that case I misunderstood your original spec. Ignore what I said about dpkg-divert. > > In that case, you could always just rebuild the letters package from > > source with the changes ... > > *nod* What my example omits is the deb actually contains thousands of > files. Rebuilding it and installing it just to change tens of files > is inconvenient, which is why I'm looking into patch packages. > > I am trying to find out if it's possible to build a patch dpkg to do > incremental upgrade. (ie to upgrade just one or two files, not all files). You can unpack the .deb manually and alter files in the tarball. With the new files in the current directory arranged the way they would be in the filesystem, do something like this (untested): ar x foo.deb data.tar.gz gunzip data.tar.gz tar -rf data.tar ./my/new/file ./my/other/new/file gzip data.tar ar r foo.deb data.tar.gz sudo dpkg -i foo.deb Somewhere in there you'll probably also want to unpack control.tar.gz and fiddle with the control file to change the version number. The alternative, if you don't want to reinstall the package, is to edit the files in-place and also (carefully!) edit /var/lib/dpkg/status to keep track of this (plus /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list if you're changing the files owned by each package). You could probably build a tool to do this automatically and call it a "patch dpkg" if you want, but I don't believe it currently exists. You might also want to look at dpkg-repack, which could possibly be modified to change the version number for you. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lost Library.
Hello, I'm a newbie, but I've tried everything I know so far, to no avail. libmp3lame.so is nowhere to be found on my system, through apt-get, or dselect, or onsite. I need it to make up the final step in Eroaster. Would somebody point me in the right direction please. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to rebuild Woody kernel (Newbie)
> > Sorry to seem stupid here, but it may be an accurate assessment %-) > > Anyhow, this looks like a fairly scary process when I may wreck the > system and have no idea what I am doing (kid at the wheel of a > steamroller syndrome... what's this button do?). > > Any suggestions? > it is a little scary the first few times. lsmod as root will show you the modules you have loaded right now. That should help. I am going to assume you have the kernel source. (the '#' means a root prompt) # apt-get install libncurses5-dev kernel-package alsa-source # cd /usr/src/ # tar zxvf alsa-source.tar.gz # cd linux # make menuconfig ... ... # make-kpkg --revision=5:mine.1 kernel_image # make-kpkg modules_image Then install the debs that appear in /usr/src. make menuconfig is easy to use and does not involve X. Read each item and its associated help. It will probably take you two or three hours the first time. The actual kernel compile can take anywhere from 30 minutes to 3 hours. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to rebuild Woody kernel (Newbie)
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:18:11PM +0200, DSC Siltec wrote:
| I've installed Woody, but have discovered that I don't have
| (a) ALSA for my sound (alternately ymfpci.o) or
| (b) support for my USB (which I assume will be necessary if I want to
| upload my digital camera pictures to my Linux box.)
I don't know about ALSA, but USB support is included in the
prepackaged kernels. Oh, are you using 2.2 or 2.4? I don't think the
.debs for 2.2 kernels have USB. Upgrade to 2.4 :-).
| So I found out I have to rebuild my kernel. Never having done this
| before, I went to the Linux Kernel HOWTO, and pulled up HOWTO
| Rebuild the Kernel.
|
| The stuff looks like greek to me.
Debian's kernel-package is much easier to use. It takes care of
everything but configuration and updating your boot loader for you.
That howto is for building from a tarball distributed by kernel.org
and is probably geared for RH.
| For another thing, I am not at all sure which modules I'll be needing,
| and it looks like I'll have to know that.
Yeah, that's kind of important to know when building a kernel.
| I can pick up my filesystem from module okay, and I can figure out
| my chip, and I can probably safely assume that I have a PCI
| motherboard. But most of these things were bypassed in the initial
| woody installation.
They weren't bypassed at all. You never compiled a kernel during your
woody installation :-). Herbert Xu has put together a decent default
configuration that works for most people out-of-the-box.
| Ideally, it would be nice to get a list of the modules that I already
| have and their installation values -- I am sure that they would be
| listed somewhere in ETC, if I knew where to look.
You can find that configuration in /boot/config-. Go
ahead and start building your kernel. You'll find the option in the
configuration interface for loading an existing config file. You can
use that as a starting point.
| So I was wondering -- are there any better howtos out there, possibly
| more in line with Woody? Or is there a newbie guide on rebuilding the
| kernel?
You can try reading the documentation in the "kernel-package" package.
Basically use this command to build your kernel :
fakeroot make-kpkg clean && \
fakeroot make-kpkg \
--config=xconfig \
--append-to-version=-custom.${VER} \
--revision=custom.${VER} \
kernel_image \
modules-image
kernel_headers
but replace ${VER} with a version number (eg 1, 2, 3) so that you can
keep track of which build attempt you are testing.
This will create a .deb file that you can install with 'dpkg -i'.
| Sorry to seem stupid here, but it may be an accurate assessment %-)
|
| Anyhow, this looks like a fairly scary process when I may wreck the
| system and have no idea what I am doing (kid at the wheel of a
| steamroller syndrome... what's this button do?).
It's intimidating at first, but really isn't all that bad once you get
the hang of it. Here's the trick to prevent suicide :
1) keep your existing kernel intact, don't wipe it (or the
modules) off your disk
2) Keep an option for loading it in your boot loader's config.
That way you can revert back to it if (when) you make a
mistake in configuring your new kernel. Everyone makes
mistakes from time to time. The key isn't to not make a
mistake but rather to know how and be able to recover from it.
The best way to learn how to build a kernel is to do it and discover
how it works through RTFM, experience, and making mistakes.
HTH,
-D
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Re: Where can I find nfsd v3 (NFS V3) for debian ?
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 12:51:07AM +0530, Deepak Kotian wrote: > But, Even I have also upgraded my kernel to 2.4.18, but rpcinfo -p does not > show version 3. > How do I get it ? If you're using a stock kernel, it's definitely there. If you compile your own, you have to enable it in the kernel configuration. Mike. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
Daniel Toffetti wrote: > > > > > No, no, no. American beer is American beer. Come to England and > > > > > try a decent bitter or ale sometime ... > > > > > > If they are close to the Irish Guinness, I'll follow you :) > > > > No no no no. This guys having you on. Ale and bitter are a practic > > joke we play on tourists :) kind of an alcoholic pi55. Stick to the > > Guinness or Canadian beer or anything but, repeat anything but our > > beer. Only our wine is worse. > > > > Harvey > > A joke ??? Too sad I missed it... can you explain ? Harvey is the guy who's joking. For one thing, Guinness (and all stouts) is in fact an ale, so to say you should drink Guinness and not ale is absurd. Second, England makes a number of superb beers, including those from Fuller's and Samuel Smith (I have yet to have a drink from either of those breweries that is less than excellent -- in particular, I recommend Fuller's London Porter and Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale). Meanwhile, most Canadian beer is nearly as bad as American macro-breweries; the only really good Canadian brewery I know of is Unibroue, which is in Quebec and therefore only nominally Canadian. The USA, btw, has many excellent breweries, but the really well-known ones are awful (Coors, Anheuser-Busch, Miller). Some of the best-known microbreweries aren't bad (Anchor, Sierra Nevada), but the best of all are generally not at all well-known. In that category, I would like to mention Stone Brewing (makers of Arrogant Bastard Ale) and Rogue Ales, both of which are consistently superb. In case anyone is curious, my reviews of beers are available at my web site, http://crdic.ath.cx . They are also posted (along with those of thousands of other people) at the most excellent RateBeer site, http://www.ratebeer.com , which I recommend to anyone with an interest in good beer. Craig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GCJ and C/C++ applications how is it possible ?
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 09:15:13PM +0200, Pac wrote: | Hi all, | | does anyone have a documentation that shows how to use GCJ 3.1 to compile | (in native mode) a set java classes $ cat > Hello.java
How to rebuild Woody kernel (Newbie)
I've installed Woody, but have discovered that I don't have (a) ALSA for my sound (alternately ymfpci.o) or (b) support for my USB (which I assume will be necessary if I want to upload my digital camera pictures to my Linux box.) So I found out I have to rebuild my kernel. Never having done this before, I went to the Linux Kernel HOWTO, and pulled up HOWTO Rebuild the Kernel. The stuff looks like greek to me. For one thing, it starts a person out in BASH, switches to X [do you really need X to rebuild the kernel???], loops out to telnet terminals, and gets me completely lost in the process. For another thing, I am not at all sure which modules I'll be needing, and it looks like I'll have to know that. I can pick up my filesystem from module okay, and I can figure out my chip, and I can probably safely assume that I have a PCI motherboard. But most of these things were bypassed in the initial woody installation. Ideally, it would be nice to get a list of the modules that I already have and their installation values -- I am sure that they would be listed somewhere in ETC, if I knew where to look. So I was wondering -- are there any better howtos out there, possibly more in line with Woody? Or is there a newbie guide on rebuilding the kernel? Sorry to seem stupid here, but it may be an accurate assessment %-) Anyhow, this looks like a fairly scary process when I may wreck the system and have no idea what I am doing (kid at the wheel of a steamroller syndrome... what's this button do?). Any suggestions? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: screens saver - scrolling marquee
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:28:33AM -0500, ktb wrote: > I've got a kiosk set up and would like to display what the intended use > of the kiosk is for, in the form of a screensaver. I've installed > xscreensaver. The only two screensavers included that come close are > "flag" and "GLtext." Flag doesn't look very professional and GLtext > flips around so much the text is unreadable and for some reason the > letter "T" doesn't have the top line on it. You can stop the text in GLtext from spinning with the command line option "-no-spin" (with 1 '-'). The problem with the letter 'T' is known (see bug #141635) and according to the report, fixed upstream. -- Seneca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody
I am a newby on debian woody 3.0. Have a Nvidia GeForce2 DDR in my system. Can,t get my xserver running,nor my usb logitech mouse. Please help,thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wordperfect 8 on Woody? libXpm-problem
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 21:32:08 +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > Is the problem perhaps that libXpm.so.4.11 is not the correct version for > WordPerfect? IIRC WordPerfect is a libc5 binary, so you'll need a xpm library linked against libc5 for it; try the "xpm4.7" package. HTH, Ray -- Does Kibo SEE the FNORDS? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wordperfect 8 on Woody? libXpm-problem
Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am trying to revive Wordperfect 8 on Woody. You need xlib6 installed. (And libc5.) -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! I can relate to that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bilingual Debian: English & Russian
I am looking for a mentor to help me configure my Debian installation. My native tongue is English, and I am studying Russian. I want to be able to work with the Russian alphabet on my English-localized Computer. Specifically, I want to be able to create documents in Russian script in a word processor (Abiword, probably) and to be able to send and receive e-mail in Russian (I have no strong preference regarding e-mail clients, but would prefer to use a graphical application). If I can get a Russian spell checker working, that would be icing on the cake. I understand that KOI-8R is the preferred encoding method for my purposes. I understand that I have to download and install KOI-8R-encoded fonts and keyboard mapping, and a utility for setting the keyboard map. I have identified and installed the following Debian packages: xruskb - An X localized keyboard switch and autolock. xfonts-cyrillic - Cyrillic fonts for X xxkb - Keyboard state indicator and switcher for xkb. console-cyrillic - Better cyrillic support for Linux console. language-env - simple configuration tool for native language environment. I am a Linux USER, not a geek. This is a personal project and has nothing to do with my *daytime* job. I have been using Debian for a month, and am now reasonably familiar with the Debian package management programs. All that I seek is a little e-mail guidance in configuring and learning to use these packages. If all goes well, this project should take no more than two or three evenings. Above all, all help is GRATEFULLY and GRACIOUSLY appreciated. Respond, please, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to this mailing list. Harold Crouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: patch or "sparse package" support under dpkg
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 10:03:40AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 01:39:52AM -0700, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: > > > > Looks like dpkg-divert is a way to > > "put a write-protect tab" on a particular file, as far as new > > package installs are concerned... > > Well, to some extent. But there's no reason you can't install another > file in its place once it's diverted. Manually, right? But I want to do it with dpkg. :) I want to be able to install letters-1.0p1.deb (to change just one file) and then later letters-2.0.deb (replace all the files). The reason I want to do it with dpkg is so I can track what version of the application is installed, 1.0 versus 1.0p1, by listing the installed deb's. > > Let's say I have a letters-1.0.deb. > > It installs: > > > > /etc/a 3 bytes in size > > /etc/b 3 bytes > > /etc/c 3 bytes > > > > Now I want to patch it. > > If they're literally in /etc, then just change them. It's a serious bug > for packages to overwrite changes to configuration files without asking, > and files in /etc are configuration files. Just example. They are really in /a/really/long/path. :-) Not /etc. > > I'd like to install letters-1.0p1.deb which will install an update to > > /etc/c, which will result in > > > > /etc/a 3 bytes in size > > /etc/b 3 bytes > > /etc/c 300 bytes > > > > But all three files would still be part of the "letters" dpkg. > > When letters-2.0.deb is installed, "a", "b" and "c" would be > > replaced by the new files. > > So you mean that you don't want your changes to be preserved on upgrade? Exactly! I want "c" to be overwritten by the "c" from the next "letters" deb that's installed. > In that case, you could always just rebuild the letters package from > source with the changes ... *nod* What my example omits is the deb actually contains thousands of files. Rebuilding it and installing it just to change tens of files is inconvenient, which is why I'm looking into patch packages. I am trying to find out if it's possible to build a patch dpkg to do incremental upgrade. (ie to upgrade just one or two files, not all files). I still want to be able to do a full upgrade afterwards, clobbering the incremental upgrade. So far I don't see how I could accomplish that with dpkg-divert. If I'm missing something, I would love an example. Best regards, Aleksey. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wordperfect 8 on Woody? libXpm-problem
I am trying to revive Wordperfect 8 on Woody. The following error occurs: ~$xwp xwp: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4' However I already have the following on my system: - js-21:19:41-/usr/X11R6/lib$d libXpm* libXpm.so.4.11 libXpm.a libXpm.so.4 -> libXpm.so.4.11 libXpm.so -> libXpm.so.4 The contents of /etc/ld.so.conf seems OK: --- /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/libc5-compat /lib/libc5-compat /usr/lib/postfix /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib Is the problem perhaps that libXpm.so.4.11 is not the correct version for WordPerfect? Regards. Johann -- J.H. Spies - Tel. 021-982 2694 / 082 782 0336 / 021-808 4036(w) Posbus 4668, Tygervallei 7536 "We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body."II Corinthians 4:8-10 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I find nfsd v3 (NFS V3) for debian ?
On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 14:21, Deepak Kotian wrote: > But, Even I have also upgraded my kernel to 2.4.18, but rpcinfo -p does not > show version 3. > How do I get it ? Here's the relevant section of my custom kernel's config file: $ grep NFS /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_NFS_FS=m CONFIG_NFS_V3=y CONFIG_NFSD=m CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Debian User" > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:25 AM > Subject: Re: Where can I find nfsd v3 (NFS V3) for debian ? > > > > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 13:46, Deepak Kotian wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Where can I find nfsd v3 for debian Linux? > > > > > > I have installed debian linux 2.2.19 and when I do > > > > > > rpcinfo -p , I see the version as "2". Can anyone tell > > > > > > me where can I find "3"(NFS v3) which supports more number of NFS > services/functions? > > > > > > Please let me know. > > > > With kernel 2.4.18, this is what I get: > > $ rpcinfo -p > >program vers proto port > > 102 tcp111 portmapper > > 102 udp111 portmapper > > 1000241 udp 32769 status > > 1000241 tcp 32768 status > > 132 udp 2049 nfs > > 133 udp 2049 nfs -- > > 1000211 udp 32770 nlockmgr > > 1000213 udp 32770 nlockmgr > > 1000214 udp 32770 nlockmgr > > 151 udp 32771 mountd > > 151 tcp 32769 mountd > > 152 udp 32771 mountd > > 152 tcp 32769 mountd > > 153 udp 32771 mountd > > 153 tcp 32769 mountd > > > > > > -- > > +-+ > > | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > > | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | > > | | > > | "I have created a government of whirled peas..."| > > | Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 12-May-2002, | > > ! CNN, Larry King Live | > > +-+ > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- +-+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | | | | "I have created a government of whirled peas..."| | Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 12-May-2002, | ! CNN, Larry King Live | +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unmounting device after playing movie with xine
Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: On Tuesday 21 May 2002 07:06 pm, Travis Crump wrote: Whenever I play a (divx) movie off a partition or CD with xine, I am unable to umount the device when I am done. The attempt always fails with a 'device is busy' error message. 'fuser -mv ' doesn't report that anything is using any of the files on the partition, and if I log out of X and log back in I am then able to umount the device. My system is a pretty standard woody install and xine-ui is 0.9.8-4 and libxine0 is 0.9.8-2. Not being able to umount CDs is more than moderately annoying, does anyone have any ideas? I had a simular experience. Finally, I realized I had an xterm still in the directory of the mounted drive. Solution was to cd back home (cd) :) tatah Unfortunately, if it was this simple than fuser would report bash as using the directory. :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I find nfsd v3 (NFS V3) for debian ?
But, Even I have also upgraded my kernel to 2.4.18, but rpcinfo -p does not show version 3. How do I get it ? Thanks and Regards Deepak - Original Message - From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian User" Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: Re: Where can I find nfsd v3 (NFS V3) for debian ? > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 13:46, Deepak Kotian wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Where can I find nfsd v3 for debian Linux? > > > > I have installed debian linux 2.2.19 and when I do > > > > rpcinfo -p , I see the version as "2". Can anyone tell > > > > me where can I find "3"(NFS v3) which supports more number of NFS services/functions? > > > > Please let me know. > > With kernel 2.4.18, this is what I get: > $ rpcinfo -p >program vers proto port > 102 tcp111 portmapper > 102 udp111 portmapper > 1000241 udp 32769 status > 1000241 tcp 32768 status > 132 udp 2049 nfs > 133 udp 2049 nfs -- > 1000211 udp 32770 nlockmgr > 1000213 udp 32770 nlockmgr > 1000214 udp 32770 nlockmgr > 151 udp 32771 mountd > 151 tcp 32769 mountd > 152 udp 32771 mountd > 152 tcp 32769 mountd > 153 udp 32771 mountd > 153 tcp 32769 mountd > > > -- > +-+ > | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | > | | > | "I have created a government of whirled peas..."| > | Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 12-May-2002, | > ! CNN, Larry King Live | > +-+ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GCJ and C/C++ applications how is it possible ?
Hi all, does anyone have a documentation that shows how to use GCJ 3.1 to compile (in native mode) a set java classes into a library and to use it into a GTK+ application a Qt application ?? Best regards -- R.Pac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with ess-mode under woody
Is anyone else having problems using ess-mode? It wasn't coming up at all after a simple apt-get install ess, so I edited /etc/emacs/50ess.el to contain: (require 'ess-site) Now it still doesn't come up automatically, but I can do M-x ess-mode. But then I just get: Wrong type argument: syntax-table-p, nil I don't know (nearly) enough about emacs to be able to diagnose this, but I do know that on my home machine simply opening a file with the appropriate extension (R, S, sps, do, etc.) starts ess appropriately. This works for other types (CPerl, for example), but not ess. Any advice? Version information: GNU Emacs 20.7.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu, X toolkit) of Thu Apr 4 2002 on cyberhq modified by Debian ii ess5.1.20-2 Emacs statistics mode, supporting R,S and ot Thanks. -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning an jigdo ISO
I would love to know just what I am supposed to do. Oh, so read what they're good for, you say. OK. So, I go to the CD FAQ. And what do I find: "The packages on the CDs are sorted by popularity: CD 1 contains the installation system and the most popular packages. CD 2 contains slightly less popular ones, CD 3 even less popular ones, etc. You will probably not need CD 3 and higher unless you have very special requirements. (And in case you happen to need a package later on which is not on one of the CDs you downloaded, you can always install that package directly from the Internet.)" Wow! That's informative. So, I used Jigdo and I got 3 files. Are you saying each is for a separate CD? I see nothing on the FAQ about what the I'm supposed to do with these images and how to install. I've installed 2.2.x millions of times off a single CD someone made for me. He knew how, I don't. So, maybe you could be be a little more informative?? Curtis Eduard Bloch wrote: #include curtis wrote on Wed May 22, 2002 um 11:35:17AM: in the appropriate directory. I permit the installation program to search for the directory itself. It looks for the following: "images-1.44/rescue.bin " And then comes back that it can't find "rescue.bin, drivers.tgz" Without the kernel I can't do anything, right? Oh people, would you PLEASE READ WHAT THE CDS ARE GOOD FOR? The THIRD CD is NOT meant for a standalone installation. It does contain drivers, basedebs, or any other parts needed for the installation, only one boot block to boot with BIOSes that cannot boot from the first CD (multiboot). Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning an jigdo ISO
#include curtis wrote on Wed May 22, 2002 um 11:35:17AM: > in the appropriate directory. I permit the installation program to > search for the directory itself. It looks for the following: > "images-1.44/rescue.bin " > And then comes back that it can't find "rescue.bin, drivers.tgz" > > Without the kernel I can't do anything, right? Oh people, would you PLEASE READ WHAT THE CDS ARE GOOD FOR? The THIRD CD is NOT meant for a standalone installation. It does contain drivers, basedebs, or any other parts needed for the installation, only one boot block to boot with BIOSes that cannot boot from the first CD (multiboot). Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- Alfie: Also gehen tut das Ding, die Fehler sehe ich doch beim starten? -- LnxBil über die Bedeutung von "use strict;" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I find nfsd v3 (NFS V3) for debian ?
On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 13:46, Deepak Kotian wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I find nfsd v3 for debian Linux? > > I have installed debian linux 2.2.19 and when I do > > rpcinfo -p , I see the version as "2". Can anyone tell > > me where can I find "3"(NFS v3) which supports more number of NFS > services/functions? > > Please let me know. With kernel 2.4.18, this is what I get: $ rpcinfo -p program vers proto port 102 tcp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 1000241 udp 32769 status 1000241 tcp 32768 status 132 udp 2049 nfs 133 udp 2049 nfs -- 1000211 udp 32770 nlockmgr 1000213 udp 32770 nlockmgr 1000214 udp 32770 nlockmgr 151 udp 32771 mountd 151 tcp 32769 mountd 152 udp 32771 mountd 152 tcp 32769 mountd 153 udp 32771 mountd 153 tcp 32769 mountd -- +-+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | | | | "I have created a government of whirled peas..."| | Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 12-May-2002, | ! CNN, Larry King Live | +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound problems - newbie
Lisa C. Boyd wrote: I am new to Linux and Debian and have really no idea how to troubleshoot things yet. I had a local Debian guru help me install Debian (on the 11th), but I'm having difficulties with my sound. Below is the error message that I get: Sound server informational message. Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (no such device) The sound server will continue using the null output device. Here's my sound card info: Crystal Semiconductor Chip set CS4236 According to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/CS4232 (where "/usr/src/linux" contains the source file for your kernel), the CS4232 driver works for CS423x chips. * # cat /proc/asound/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v0.9.0beta10 emulation code) Kernel: Linux debian001 2.4.16-686 #1 Wed Nov 28 09:27:17 EST 2001 i686 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: --- no soundcards --- Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Did your Debian guru recompile your kernel? If so, he may not have included support for the sound card (either as a module or built-in). * # modprobe snd-card-cs4236 /lib/modules/2.4.16-686/alsa/snd-card-cs4236.o: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters /lib/modules/2.4.16-686/alsa/snd-card-cs4236.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.16-686/alsa/snd-card-cs4236.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.16-686/alsa/snd-card-cs4236.o: insmod snd-card-cs4236 failed Unless you have reason not to, you might download the source for a newer kernel (2.4.18 or so in Sid, I believe) and recompile with CS4232 (or 4236 if it's available) as a module. * #lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 02) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 00:0f.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21152 (rev 03) 00:11.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 24) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c) The lspci command will list the PCI devices in your system. Since the sound card doesn't show up, I would assume that the card is not a PCI device. It has been my experience that PCI devices are a lot easier to configure than ISA devices (unless the PCI device is really new, in which case the support for the device may not yet exist). I know it's frustrating, but keep plugging on. It's a different world, but worth it. Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where can I find nfsd v3 (NFS V3) for debian ?
Hi, Where can I find nfsd v3 for debian Linux? I have installed debian linux 2.2.19 and when I do rpcinfo -p , I see the version as "2". Can anyone tell me where can I find "3"(NFS v3) which supports more number of NFS services/functions? Please let me know. Thanks and Regards Deepak
Re: Burning an jigdo ISO
OK, I reburned another CD, but still no go. Here's the exact detail. I get to a point early in the install where it asks, "Install Kernel & Driver Modules" Hitting enter, I choose to install from a CDROM, as the other choices are not valid in my situation. I then have the option of choosing from a list of directories or typing in the appropriate directory. I permit the installation program to search for the directory itself. It looks for the following: "images-1.44/rescue.bin " And then comes back that it can't find "rescue.bin, drivers.tgz" Without the kernel I can't do anything, right? As for the check sum, each time I downloaded the kernel image, it was reported that everything was fine. Steve Brown wrote: Just in case you forgot: did you md5sum your resulting .iso file and compare that result to the md5sum posted in the iso directory on the iso download site? (it's supposed to be automatic but you might as well see it with your own eyes). Steve On May 22, 2002 12:25 am, Vaughan, Curtis wrote: Last time I downloaded a jigdo ISO, I burned it to a CD, but ended up with a problem during install. The problem being that when the install got to the point for installing modules and drivers, it asked for a specific file, which apparently isn’t a part of the image. So, I used jigdo again to download the latest 2.4.18 image (which the previous was, as well), hoping this time the same thing won’t happen. I notice that the iso file size is a little larger (by a mere 131 Kbytes). Could that possibly account for the modules and drivers? For some reason, I don’t think so. I have 3 files: woody-i386-8.iso woody-i386-8.iso.jigdo woody-i386-8.iso.template As I understand I need merely create an image based on the first. Right? But will I have the same problem as before? Please, respond, somebody, anybody. Curtis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
