Re: moves dot files to different directory

2002-06-28 Thread Bob Proulx
> >ls -Ald ~/.??* | grep '^-' | sed 's/^\([^ ]*[ ]*\)\{8,8\}\([^ ]*\)/\2/'
> 
> ls -Ald ~/.[^.]* | grep '^-' | tr -s ' ' | cut -d' ' -f9
> It is not that much shorter, but it sure is prettier at least to my eyes. :)

Or if we are just trying to have fun with one line scripting...

  for i in $(echo '.*');do test -f $i && echo $i; done

And the output of the for...done loop can itself be used as input to
other commands.

  mv $(for i in $(echo '.*');do test -f $i && echo $i; done) /path/dir/

But that might trigger an ARG_MAX limit.  Better to use xargs.

  for i in $(echo '.*');do test -f $i && echo $i; done \
| xargs --no-run-if-empty mv --target-directory /path/dir

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Re: Sambaa (FIXED)

2002-06-28 Thread Dave Price
Sorry,

should have cp'd the list on this fix ... and it did solve the issue.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 06:06:26PM -0700, Joe Wise wrote:
>
>Smbmount //wren/public /home/public U adminj I 192.168.0.100

I think something more like:

smbmount //wren/public /home/public -o username=davep password=davespass

should work a bit better - it does here.  davep and davespass are user
and password known to the windoze box, easiest if you are root when you
run this or have full access to /home/public (at least).

aloha,
dave


On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 08:24:21PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 23:49, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:
> > On 28 Jun 2002 at 18:06, Joe Wise  wrote:
> > 
> > > When I tried to connect my linux box to my win2k for sharing files I
> > > used: 
> > > 
> > > Smbmount //wren/public /home/public U adminj I 192.168.0.100
> > 
> > Google is your friend ...
> > 
> > Possibilities:
> > 
> > You must have encryption enabled in Samba.   Also, your
> > *samba* uid and pwd must match, not just your linux uid
> > and pwd. 
> 
> huh? the linux username/passwd has _nothing_ to do with the
> authentication to the remote smb(windows) server. The only time that
> might be the case is if the linux system were acting as the samba
> _server_ not the client.
> 
> One thing that would make a difference is whether or not there is an NT
> domain in the picture. If so the username should be specified either
> domain/username or username/domain it seems to vary
> 
> -Mark
> 
> 
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Re: How to set serial ports over reboot

2002-06-28 Thread Donald R. Spoon

Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I need to use setserial to set the parms on /dev/ttyS3. I can do this,
> but the settings don't hold over a reboot.
>
> "man setserial" refers to "/etc/setserial.conf", but there is no such
> file. A "locate setserial.conf" doesn't return the location of such a
> file either, although there are similar files in /var/lib/dpkg and
> /var/lib/setserial.
>
> I assume this is related to the "autosave once" option during install.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to get this setting to be preserved over a reboot?
>
> (Also, I understand it's a "bug" for a Debian package to ship without a
> man page; is it also a bug for the man page to be wrong? Should I file a
> bug report?)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kent
>
>

I think 'setserial" is configurable by debconf, hence "dpkg-reconfigure 
setserial" will bring up that particular series of questions again.


You might try making the changes and then re-configure setserial per the 
above command and see what happens.


BTW #1:  I don't have a /etc/setserial.conf file either, and I used the 
"autosave once" option on the initial install.  Dunno what would have 
happened if I used one of the other options...


BTW #2:  I just found a neat GUI program called "gkdebconf" that brings 
up a small window that lists ALL of the packages that were configured 
via debconf and thus allows you to select the one you want to run 
"dpkg-reconfigure" on.  I have found it quite useful for correcting 
errors made on the initial install due to my ignorance at the time.


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Re: moves dot files to different directory

2002-06-28 Thread Bob Proulx
> >To ignore . and .., use -A (almost all).  I also figured that
> >directories weren't needed, so grepped for regular files.  Then used sed
> >to print only the 9th word.
> >
> >ls -Ald ~/.??* | grep '^-' | sed 's/^\([^ ]*[ ]*\)\{8,8\}\([^ ]*\)/\2/'
> 
> ls -Ald ~/.[^.]* | grep '^-' | tr -s ' ' | cut -d' ' -f9
> It is not that much shorter, but it sure is prettier at least to my eyes. :)

I prefer find myself.

  find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -name '.*' -print

Or, as the original question was how to move all hidden files to a
different directory, this is one way.

  find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -name '.*' -print0 \
| xargs -0 --no-run-if-empty mv --target-directory /path/to/dir

Bob


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Re: moves dot files to different directory

2002-06-28 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 07:56:16PM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote:
| Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:21:18AM -0500, Henning, Brian wrote:
| > | hello all-
| > | I have the task of moving all my hidden files to another
| > | directory. how can i select only these files and not the
| > | standard files.
| > | 
| > | ls .* doesn't seem to work.
| >
| > It does (but without "-a" you won't see them), but it includes '.' and
| > '..' also :-) (you don't want to 'cp -r' those).
| >
| >
| > ls -ad ~/.[^.]*
| 
| From man ls,
| 
|-A, --almost-all
|   do not list implied . and ..

Sure, but if you're trying to test your globbing before running
'cp -ar', it isn't helpful :-).  Of course, 'echo' could also be used
to test the globbing.  :-).

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Re: Samba

2002-06-28 Thread Mark Roach
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 23:49, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:
> On 28 Jun 2002 at 18:06, Joe Wise  wrote:
> 
> > When I tried to connect my linux box to my win2k for sharing files I
> > used: 
> > 
> > Smbmount //wren/public /home/public U adminj I 192.168.0.100
> 
> Google is your friend ...
> 
> Possibilities:
> 
> You must have encryption enabled in Samba.   Also, your
> *samba* uid and pwd must match, not just your linux uid
> and pwd. 

huh? the linux username/passwd has _nothing_ to do with the
authentication to the remote smb(windows) server. The only time that
might be the case is if the linux system were acting as the samba
_server_ not the client.

One thing that would make a difference is whether or not there is an NT
domain in the picture. If so the username should be specified either
domain/username or username/domain it seems to vary

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Re: Quicken under debian

2002-06-28 Thread Rick Macdonald

Neal Lippman said:
> I am wondering if anyone could recommend a solution for using Quicken
> on my  debian woody system. Quicken is essentially the ONLY windows
> application that  I still need, and thus is the only reason that my
> laptop still has windows98  loaded on it.
>
> As far as I can tell, wine does not yet support Quicken,

I've been running Quicken 2000 on an old version of wine (Wine release
2526) for two years using Win95 DDLs. No problem.
...RickM...



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Re: moves dot files to different directory

2002-06-28 Thread Travis Crump



Gary Turner wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:23:44 -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:



On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:21:18AM -0500, Henning, Brian wrote:
| hello all-
| I have the task of moving all my hidden files to another directory. how can
| i select only these files and not the standard files.
| 
| ls .* doesn't seem to work.


It does (but without "-a" you won't see them), but it includes '.' and
'..' also :-) (you don't want to 'cp -r' those).


ls -ad ~/.[^.]*


(use -d to not get a recursive listing of all the directories)


  ^^
Thanks, dman.  I'd never have thought of that.  That took me to man ls
where I found -A.  Even a blind pig can find an acorn now and then. :)

Excuse me if my comments only duplicate others', my ISP, bless their
numb-nut brains, is up to 30 hours delay in delivering the mail.  Oddly
enough, I don't have the original post in this thread yet. :(

To ignore . and .., use -A (almost all).  I also figured that
directories weren't needed, so grepped for regular files.  Then used sed
to print only the 9th word.

ls -Ald ~/.??* | grep '^-' | sed 's/^\([^ ]*[ ]*\)\{8,8\}\([^ ]*\)/\2/'



ls -Ald ~/.[^.]* | grep '^-' | tr -s ' ' | cut -d' ' -f9
It is not that much shorter, but it sure is prettier at least to my eyes. :)


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Gnome2 installation

2002-06-28 Thread Bill Moseley
Yesterday I was able to install Gnome2 by following the instructions at 
http://www.hadess.net/idoru.php3

I reinstalled my laptop today, upgraded to unstable, and added:
  $ fgrep exper /etc/apt/sources.list 
  deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
  deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main

did a apt-get upgrade and then tried:

laptop:/home/moseley# apt-get install -t experimental nautilus2
gnome-panel2 gnome-applets2 gnome-utils gnome-terminal
gnome-control-center2 sawfish
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  nautilus2: Depends: libnautilus2-2 (>= 2.0.0) but it is not going to be
installed
 Depends: librsvg2-2 (>= 2.0.0) but it is not installable
E: Sorry, broken packages

What I did notice yesterday was nautilus was crashing often.

Any ideas?

BTW -- anyone know of instructions for installing KDE3?  That might be fun,
too.

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Re: CUPS config. under debian

2002-06-28 Thread nate


> My question: I have cupsd running on the mandrake box on my LAN, which
> now  functions as my NFS and SMB server, while the debian box is my
> workstation.  To use cups for printing on the workstation, should I ALSO
> have cupds running  on the workstation? Should it be configured to try to
> find the printer  available through the cupsd instance on the server, or
> should it be  connecting directly to the printer (which is on the
> network, not attached to  any specific computer) via ipp?
>
> Any help appreciated; I cannot figure this out from the cups
> documentation.  Configuring cups to browse the network for available
> printers did not work,  even though I followed the cups docs exactly in
> setting that up...


what i do is run the cups-lpd process on the server(in my case its
freebsd 4.4) and install lpd or lprng on the clients and print using
lpd, thats the easiest for me(and most compadible since i don't have
to have cups on the client).

nate




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Re: x86 emulators

2002-06-28 Thread nate


>
> So what do folks think of plex86?


depends  on your needs. i last used plex86 when it was still
bochs in early development in 1998 or maybe 1999. ..it worked,
real slow though. If all you need is what plex86 offers it may
be good, for me there are a buncha things in vmware I find useful.
I don't use win32 under vmware all that much, i use it for
specific tasks but most of the time it is suspended. i love
being able to use vmware to setup a virtual network of machines
on 1 system ..

plex86 is also good for those that absolutely must have all of
their software be free  or open-source. a viewpoint i think
is a good one, but for me I am not against certain commercial
applications (Vmware, mpegtv, AcceleratedX, OSS, netscape, etc) if
they work for me.

since i got onboard the vmware boat early vmware has always been
pretty cheap, i upgrade when they rev their major versions for
something like $79 or was it $49 ..if i had to outright buy
it for 300 i would probably think differently about it. and I'd
never buy the vmware express..its not functional enough for me.

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Re: Samba

2002-06-28 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 28 Jun 2002 at 18:06, Joe Wise  wrote:

> When I tried to connect my linux box to my win2k for sharing files I
> used: 
> 
> Smbmount //wren/public /home/public U adminj I 192.168.0.100

Google is your friend ...

Possibilities:

You must have encryption enabled in Samba.   Also, your
*samba* uid and pwd must match, not just your linux uid
and pwd. 

http://www.tek-tips.com/gviewthread.cfm/lev2/3/lev3/19/pid/865/qid/281627

Also, what version of Samba?  You may need to upgrade to the current version 
to get Win2k to talk to it; ISTR that the Samba that installs with potato pre-
dates Win2k.

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Fresh install questions

2002-06-28 Thread Rodney D. Myers
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x86 emulators

2002-06-28 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 06:22:35PM -0700, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote:

> > I am not adverse to running VMWare if that's the best way to accomplish
> > this task (btw, since vmware is proprietary, I assume there are no debs,
> > but just the tarball and rpms on their web site).
> >
> > I am a bit adverse to using Win4Lin, only because that would involve using
> > their patched kernel, and I like using the standard kernels.
> 
> This was EXACTLY why I purchased VMWare. Then I installed EVERY M$ o/s I had,
> and followed that with the *nix's I wanted to play with. Last count was 14
> o/s running in VMWare under Debian. And yes Virginia, it IS worth it!! :--)

So what do folks think of plex86?

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Re: Quicken under debian

2002-06-28 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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On Friday 28 June 2002 07:59 pm, Brian P. Flaherty wrote:
> Neal Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I am wondering if anyone could recommend a solution for using
> > Quicken on my debian woody system. Quicken is essentially the ONLY
> > windows application that I still need, and thus is the only reason
> > that my laptop still has windows98 loaded on it.
>
> I was in exactly the same situation for several months.  Then I put
> Vmware on my machine and that was better than having a dedicated
> Windows laptop.  But, it still wasn't good enough because I just hated
> using it.  Windows was an abomination on my otherwise pleasant
> machine.  Also, Vmware takes too long to boot and is a lot of overhead
> just to run a check book balancing program.

Right here is where you made a mistake. :--)  NEVER close it until you
SUSPEND your guest O/S. Then, it pops right open, and all you have to do is
RESUME and Windon't is ready to give you all the bsod that you can ask for.
All of my O/S's are running, albeit SUSPENDED. It takes seconds to open
VMWare AND the O/S within.

> So, I made the jump to
> cbb (check book balancer) and have been quite happy with it.  It does
> not supply all the stuff Quicken does, but it does a lot and if you
> want something you can write it up.  Also, I have come to like being
> able to see my databases in Emacs!
>
> cbb imported my quicken files pretty well.  If I remember correctly, I
> had to edit the date and/or entry number because it wasn't in the form
> cbb was expecting.  This was a while ago, though, so it might work
> now.  Also, I was using an old Quicken.
>
> HTH.
>
> Brian Flaherty

Have a Grand Day, Brian! (which is likely cuz yer running a REAL O/S)  :--)

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Re: Problem with ssh

2002-06-28 Thread Sam Varghese
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On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:33:17PM -0500, Richard Cobbe wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 09:25:52PM +0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > > 
> > > I have a problem with my ssh, when i try to connect to our server using
> > > ssh have an error like this :
> > > 
> > > ssh -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 2f65 7463 2f73 7368
> > > Disconnecting: Bad packet length 795178083.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What's Wrong with my server or my ssh client. And how to solve them.
> > 
> > Your ssh client is probably using protocol version 1 and the server you are
> > trying to log in to is using protocol version 2.
> > 
> > I had the same problem. On woody the ssh client which comes with Openssh 
> > uses
> > protocol version 1. I installed ssh2 and used it instead.
> 
> Not correct.  In woody, both packages support both versions.  OpenSSH
> defaults to protocol v1; for v2, supply the `-2' switch to ssh or add
> the appropriate line to ~/.ssh/config.

Right, I discovered that I was using a version of ssh-non free as client
rather than OpenSSH. 

But does OpenSSH default to version 1 or version 2? I find that I can log in to 
the
two servers which I need to - one uses version 1 and the other version 2 - and I
don't need to supply the -2 switch.

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Re: Quicken under debian

2002-06-28 Thread Brian P. Flaherty
Neal Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am wondering if anyone could recommend a solution for using
> Quicken on my debian woody system. Quicken is essentially the ONLY
> windows application that I still need, and thus is the only reason
> that my laptop still has windows98 loaded on it.

I was in exactly the same situation for several months.  Then I put
Vmware on my machine and that was better than having a dedicated
Windows laptop.  But, it still wasn't good enough because I just hated
using it.  Windows was an abomination on my otherwise pleasant
machine.  Also, Vmware takes too long to boot and is a lot of overhead
just to run a check book balancing program.  So, I made the jump to
cbb (check book balancer) and have been quite happy with it.  It does
not supply all the stuff Quicken does, but it does a lot and if you
want something you can write it up.  Also, I have come to like being
able to see my databases in Emacs!

cbb imported my quicken files pretty well.  If I remember correctly, I
had to edit the date and/or entry number because it wasn't in the form
cbb was expecting.  This was a while ago, though, so it might work
now.  Also, I was using an old Quicken.

HTH.

Brian Flaherty


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Re: moves dot files to different directory

2002-06-28 Thread Gary Turner
On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:23:44 -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:

>On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:21:18AM -0500, Henning, Brian wrote:
>| hello all-
>| I have the task of moving all my hidden files to another directory. how can
>| i select only these files and not the standard files.
>| 
>| ls .* doesn't seem to work.
>
>It does (but without "-a" you won't see them), but it includes '.' and
>'..' also :-) (you don't want to 'cp -r' those).
>
>
>ls -ad ~/.[^.]*
>
>
>(use -d to not get a recursive listing of all the directories)
  ^^
Thanks, dman.  I'd never have thought of that.  That took me to man ls
where I found -A.  Even a blind pig can find an acorn now and then. :)

Excuse me if my comments only duplicate others', my ISP, bless their
numb-nut brains, is up to 30 hours delay in delivering the mail.  Oddly
enough, I don't have the original post in this thread yet. :(

To ignore . and .., use -A (almost all).  I also figured that
directories weren't needed, so grepped for regular files.  Then used sed
to print only the 9th word.

ls -Ald ~/.??* | grep '^-' | sed 's/^\([^ ]*[ ]*\)\{8,8\}\([^ ]*\)/\2/'

I'm sure anyone with a clue will improve on this regexp (maybe use \< \>
for words?). I copied/modified this from a "RUTE" example.

Or, script the whole thing with awk.  

#!/bin/bash
for i in $(ls -Ald ~/.[^.]* | grep '^-' | awk '{print $9}');
do
echo $i   #test first
   done

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Re: How do I change de IP addresses in woody

2002-06-28 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 03:49, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

> What I originally said was that there's no need to
> install additional software in order to reconfigure your network
> interfaces.  What I said was absolutely true.

True yes, but also not very helpful. I suppose if the original poster
knew how to edit network/interfaces the question hadn't appeared in the
first place. I don't see why you discourage the use of one of the
(precious few I might add, not that there's anything wrong with that)
tools that helps less knowledgeable users to easily configure their
machine. 

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Re: multiple tape backup?

2002-06-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 22:33, Derek Gladding wrote:
> On Thursday 27 June 2002 08:25 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > I am planing to backup the /home directory which is around 30GB in
> > size with multiple DDS3 tape--each has 12GB. Is there any tool for
> > easier multiple tape backup like this? I can switch the tape myself.
> 
> Afbackup works well for me. (DDS3 tapes / ~120G backup set).

Do you have a "stacker", i.e. autoloader?

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Re: hard drive NOT found during install!

2002-06-28 Thread Donald R. Spoon

Waheed Islam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

Could you PLEASE help!

during installation...

my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody.
It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS).

The card is new and works perfectly in Win98, both my primary and secondary 
hdd's are connected to it.


The drive's are too large to be recognised by my motherboards' controller / 
bios. So that's no alternative.

(Both hdd's are Western Digital 40gig Caviar).

website for controller: 
http://www.acard.com/eng/product/adapter/pc/ide/aec-6280.html
The linux drivers are avail from: 
http://161.58.88.33/download/linux/driver/ide/aec6280_ver10.tar 
(un-compiled c).

And (i think) are included in the 2.4.x kernel versions.

I have tried the udma66 flavor of potato which supposedly includes support 
for the aec62xx cards (according to kernel-config).


I have read many how-to's and docs, no success.
Any suggestions, since this is my last hope to get potato installed.

Is there a way to execute the potato installation using a brand new 
pre-compiled kernel?
I don't have another linux box, thus can't compile a new kernel with 
support for the controller myself.


PLEASE HELP!

And thanks for reading / answering.


This is a just a guess, since I don't have access to that controller, 
BUT you just "might' get lucky with the "bf4" flavor of boot floppies 
from "testing" / Woody.  This particuar set has been built around the 
2.4.18 kernel, and they just might have included support for that 
controller...dunno.  In any case, you will know rather quickly when you 
put in the "boot" disk... the messages will tell you if it found it or 
not.  If it is found, you can proceed with the rest of the install.


I would recommend concentrating on Woody and give up on Potato.  The 
changes needed to run a 2.4.X kernel are just too great to make on 
install media, IMHO (unless you are a real guru).  Woody is about to be 
released as "stable" quite soon, so you probably are NOT giving up much 
stability, and you will gain quite a lot in flexibility, IMHO.


Cheers & Good Luck!
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Re: Ot c++ programming in linux

2002-06-28 Thread Ljungström
On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:24:31 -0700 (PDT)
"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 29-Jun-2002 faisal gillani wrote:
> > Well i am a newbie learning c++ these days we are
> > being thaught on turbo c 3.0 but as like other things
> > i want to work on c++ in linux .. so i installed gcc
> > on my linux box but i dont have any idea how to
> > install it for example i write a program as follows in
> > turbo c
> > 
> >#include
> >#include
> > void main (void)
> > {
> > printf("hello world");
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > how do i write the same program in gcc ?
> > i have tried the same but it gives out error the
> >#in... files not found 
> > what can i do & how to compile this program ?
> > 
> 
> (that is C, not C++, but I remember those classes supposedly teaching
> C++ )
> 
> conio.h is a dos specific header, there is no good UNIX/Linux
> equivalent.  In the above example it can be left out.  Once you have
> removed that line the code will compile.
> 

As a matter of fact, conio has been "ported" to Linux, and wether it's 
good or not is up to you to decide, take a look for yourself:

http://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/libs/ui/linux-conio-1.02.tgz


> gcc -Wall -W -pedantic hello.c -o hello
> 
> the above line enables all warnings and will help you write clean
> code.'hello.c' is the name of the source file you create, it will be
> output as a program called 'hello', that is what the -o is for.
> 
> A common problem new coders have is they create a file called 'test'
> this is a bad name for a program because it has the possibility of
> being replaced by/bin/test when you run it.
> 
> $ gcc test.c -o test
> $ test
> $
> and nothing happens.  TO be sure run all your programs with a path
> 
> $ ./test # use the 'test' program in ./ (aka this directory)
> 
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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Dave Price
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:30:47PM -0700, David Richmond wrote:
> Of course, now it doesn't matter, as I don't boot into windows anymore.. 
> :)

what's this windows stuff anyway? isn't that just a program that runs on
AOL?  Or a plugin for internet explorer?

aloha,
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Re: Resizing partitions..

2002-06-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 20:16, Andrew Biggadike wrote:
> What exactly do you mean by butcher your partition numbers?  I haven't
> done it yet and might like to try parted - not necessarily for ethical
> reasons (though I certainly understand what you're saying), but just to
> learn more about linux.  My main concern is that I might mess it up, and
> the other way seems to be easier.

I don't know if this is still a problem, but the last time I used
Partition Magic (I believe it was 5.0) it did everything that I wanted
with no problem. Unfortunately, since it didn't ask me if I wanted
partitions at the beginnings or ends of free space, I was left with a
partition table vastly different from what I had planned out. Then
again, I suppose that's more user error than anything. :)

parted is very safe. And it's actually quite easy to use. If you can use
ftp (or any other pseudo-shell program) you'll be right at home in
parted. And if you want to learn more about linux, using a Windows
program such as PM won't help matters much will it? :)


> Hmm, I guess that would prevent me from having to `dd if=/dev/hda3
> of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1` everytime I recompile the kernel, no? 
> After I add those lines, would all I have to do is `lilo -b /dev/hda`?

Exactly. And, actually, if you roll your own kernel "The Debian Way",
you won't even need to do that much. The package does it for you.

You don't have it so bad now since your Windows partition is FAT32, so
you can at least write the bootsect.lnx to it from linux. I had an NTFS
partition, so I had to boot into windows anytime I recompiled my kernel.
I'll never be able to get that Windows startup sound out of my head. :)

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Re: Ot c++ programming in linux

2002-06-28 Thread Scott Henson
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 21:51, Eric G. Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 06:17:14PM -0700, faisal gillani wrote:
> > Well i am a newbie learning c++ these days we are
> > being thaught on turbo c 3.0 but as like other things
> > i want to work on c++ in linux .. so i installed gcc
> > on my linux box but i dont have any idea how to
> > install it for example i write a program as follows in
> > turbo c

Install ajunta.  Its better than turbo c.  I use it all the time for my
engineering projects.

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Re: Samba

2002-06-28 Thread Dave Price
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 06:06:26PM -0700, Joe Wise wrote:
>
>Smbmount //wren/public /home/public U adminj I 192.168.0.100

I think something more like:

smbmount //wren/public /home/public -o username=davep password=davespass

should work a bit better - it does here.  davep and davespass are user
and password known to the windoze box, easiest if you are root when you
run this or have full access to /home/public (at least).

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Re: Ot c++ programming in linux

2002-06-28 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 06:17:14PM -0700, faisal gillani wrote:
> Well i am a newbie learning c++ these days we are
> being thaught on turbo c 3.0 but as like other things
> i want to work on c++ in linux .. so i installed gcc
> on my linux box but i dont have any idea how to
> install it for example i write a program as follows in
> turbo c
> 
> #include
    typo
> #include
    header not found
> void main (void)
   undefined behavior
> {
> printf("hello world");

  no return statement
> }

> how do i write the same program in gcc ?

news:comp.os.linux.development.apps can help, as can a few good books.

BTW, you want g++ if you really want to do C++...

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Re: How do I change de IP addresses in woody

2002-06-28 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 12:46:03AM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> Also, i think its strange that someone with a debian.org address (by
> extension) discourages the use of debconf, which is normal part of a
> default debian install.

What's strange about that?  debconf is used during installation of
packages (and related taks) to interact with the user.  There is
certainly no requirement that the user use debconf to maintain their
system once it's intalled.  I certainly don't do such a thing.

Remember, files in /etc/ are not to be touched by Debian packages unless
the user explicitly requests so via dpkg-reconfigure.  You aren't losing
anything by not using debconf after installation.  Next time you upgrade
your system, debconf won't overwrite the changes you've made to files in
/etc/.

Not only that, but etherconf itself is definitely not a part of the
Debian base install.  What I originally said was that there's no need to
install additional software in order to reconfigure your network
interfaces.  What I said was absolutely true.

noah

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SOLVED unzip from sid requires libc5

2002-06-28 Thread Wayne Topa
Wayne Topa([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> 
> I was not aware that there was a limit (is there?) on the length of
> the PATH statement.  My old path statement was the problem.  Funny it
> had worked fine for so long and never bit me before.
> 

Well there 'may' be a limit but that was 'not' the real problem.  It
seems that my path statement contains '/root/bin'  as I keep a bunch
of scripts there that I run from my account.  That dir preceeded
/usr/bin and I had an unzip file there that 'did' require libc5.  ISTR
that I put it there 3-4 years ago when there was a problem with with
the current .deb file. 

The sig below comes up randomly but seem to fit my current condition.

Hope someone learns from this old mans mistake.  

Thanks guys!

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Re: Ot c++ programming in linux

2002-06-28 Thread Peter Snoblin
On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 01:17, faisal gillani wrote:
> Well i am a newbie learning c++ these days we are
> being thaught on turbo c 3.0 but as like other things
> i want to work on c++ in linux .. so i installed gcc
> on my linux box but i dont have any idea how to
> install it for example i write a program as follows in
> turbo c
> 
> #include
> #include
> void main (void)
> {
> printf("hello world");
> }
> 
> 
> 
> how do i write the same program in gcc ?
> i have tried the same but it gives out error the
> #in... files not found 
> what can i do & how to compile this program ?
> 
> thanks
> faisal
> 
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Three things:
1)Thats C, not C++
2)conio.h is not an ANSI or ISO library, it is only used in Windows, I
believe. The only thing I ever really used it for was getch() which can
readily be replaced with getchar() from stdio.h. This is probably the
source of your problems, just drop that include.
3)If you want to compile a C++ program, you will need g++ in addition to
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Re: Setting up a server

2002-06-28 Thread Dave Price
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 03:05:21PM -0700, curtis wrote:
> No, that don't work.
> 
> Below is a previous post of mine.  In response to this, one person said 
> to use iptables since I was using 2.4.xx kernel.

Yes, it will work and should not be too difficult.

In 2.0 and earlear we had ipfwadm ...

2.2 brought us ipchains

2.4 _strongly_suggests_ iptables

The idea of each method, for purposes of connecting a LAN to the internet
through a 'server' or firewall are the same.  We want to do (at the very
least) NAT (Network Address Translation) or IP-Masqurerading.  Two term
for the same thing: All the traffic coming from our LAN 'looks like' it
came from our firewall or NAT box address.  The NAT box keeps track of
which device on the LAN gets the replies (connection tracking in
iptables terminology)

To get iptables to work, you need to enable iptables in your kernel
_and_ enable compiling of each of the modules that iptables relies upon
and build those too.  (make modules; make modules_install).

Your error massage earlier indicates that iptables wants to run for you,
but can't find the modules to load for you.

I have seen it recomended that you turn on (building of) ALL the
modules, since building ones that you do not use will not hurt
anything.

That done, keep your old kernel around (you always do that just in case
right; leave it available in lilo or grub) and boot your new one.

Try running this very simple script as root to flip on a basic ipmasq
configuration for iptables...

--
#!/bin/bash
# iptables - test script


# default table :

# setup the default policies -- DROP everything
iptables -P OUTPUT  ACCEPT
iptables -P INPUT   ACCEPT
iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT


# flush out all the old chains and delete user chains
iptables -F
iptables -X

   
# INPUT chain -- what can come into the system

# allow loopback
iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
#iptables -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1/32 -j ACCEPT

# allow replies
iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

# take all input from the LAN (assumes addresses are correct)
iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -j ACCEPT

# allow ping
iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT


# OUTPUT chain -- what is allowed to get out

# allow loopback
iptables -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
  # stop all samba stuff going out the DSL line, but tell the host
(me)
iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -p tcp --dport 137:139 -j REJECT

iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -j ACCEPT



# nat table -- how we translate (masq) stuff

# flush out all the old chains
iptables -t nat -F



# POSTROUTING chain

# allow loopback
iptables -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT

# masquerade stuff from the LAN to the WAN
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE

# enable forwarding in the kernel
echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

## end
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Once run, your lsmod (modules loaded in RAM) might look a bit like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su -c "lsmod"
Password: 
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
ipt_MASQUERADE  1216   1  (autoclean)
iptable_nat13236   1  (autoclean) [ipt_MASQUERADE]
ipt_REJECT  2816   1  (autoclean)
ipt_state608   2  (autoclean)
ip_conntrack   13228   2  (autoclean) [ipt_MASQUERADE
iptable_nat ipt_state]
iptable_filter  1760   1  (autoclean)
ip_tables  10592   7  [ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat ipt_REJECT
ipt_state iptable_filter]
serial_cs   4480   0  (unused)
xirc2ps_cs 11652   1 
pcnet_cs   10404   1 
83905984   0  [pcnet_cs]
af_packet   8296   1 
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As you can see, most of the modules are iptables related ... you have to
have compiled and installed all of them to get this to work...

Here are the modules on this system:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/   
ip_conntrack.o   ipfwadm.o ipt_ULOG.o   ipt_state.o
ip_conntrack_ftp.o   ipt_LOG.o ipt_ah.o ipt_tcpmss.o
ip_conntrack_irc.o   ipt_MARK.oipt_esp.oipt_tos.o
ip_nat_ftp.o ipt_MASQUERADE.o  ipt_length.o ipt_ttl.o
ip_nat_irc.o ipt_MIRROR.o  ipt_limit.o  ipt_unclean.o
ip_nat_snmp_basic.o  ipt_REDIRECT.oipt_mac.oiptable_filter.o
ip_queue.o   ipt_REJECT.o  ipt_mark.o   iptable_mangle.o
ip_tables.o  ipt_TCPMSS.o  ipt_multiport.o  iptable_nat.o
ipchains.o   ipt_TOS.o ipt_owner.o

Now, I am might get feedback about this being less than perfect. It is,
but it will work.

(Note the last line about putting a '1' into the proc filesystem to turn
on forwarding? All routers need at least that 

Re: unzip from sid requires libc5

2002-06-28 Thread Wayne Topa
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > 
> > Right.  ldd /usr/bin/unzip shows libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001b000)
> > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
> > 
> > It is something screwed up with 'my' account!
> > 
> > It gives this error  "unzip: can't load library 'libc.so.5'" when run 
> > as me but works fine when run as root.  Just tried other users and it
> > is OK there. Greping my home dir for unzip comes up empty so I don't
> > have anything in bash* causing it.  Logging out and back in doesn't 
> > fix it but installing libc5 does (???).  My home dir goes back 6-7
> > years and I am running woody/Sid currently.  It has to be something in 
> > there, I guess.  Weird
> > 
> 
> an ld_preload perhaps?
> 
> 

Well it is a strange fix but I got it to work in my account, without
libc5.  

As I said this in an 'old' home dir.  In .bash_profile  I had a path
statement the ended with :$PATH.  It was preceeded by about 10-12 dirs.
echo $PATH showed that the path (/usr/bin) was the 14th or 15th in the
list.  I re-arranged the PATH to have the $PATH:(the rest of the dirs),
did '. .bash_profile', echo $PATH and /usr/bin was second in the list.
As root I removed libc5 and then ran unzip in my account.  Works like
a charm again.

I was not aware that there was a limit (is there?) on the length of
the PATH statement.  My old path statement was the problem.  Funny it
had worked fine for so long and never bit me before.

Thanks Sean

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Re: unzip from sid requires libc5

2002-06-28 Thread Alan Shutko
Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It is something screwed up with 'my' account!

"type unzip" will tell you what unzip you're running.

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RE: Ot c++ programming in linux

2002-06-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 29-Jun-2002 faisal gillani wrote:
> Well i am a newbie learning c++ these days we are
> being thaught on turbo c 3.0 but as like other things
> i want to work on c++ in linux .. so i installed gcc
> on my linux box but i dont have any idea how to
> install it for example i write a program as follows in
> turbo c
> 
>#include
>#include
> void main (void)
> {
> printf("hello world");
> }
> 
> 
> 
> how do i write the same program in gcc ?
> i have tried the same but it gives out error the
>#in... files not found 
> what can i do & how to compile this program ?
> 

(that is C, not C++, but I remember those classes supposedly teaching C++ )

conio.h is a dos specific header, there is no good UNIX/Linux equivalent.  In
the above example it can be left out.  Once you have removed that line the code
will compile.

gcc -Wall -W -pedantic hello.c -o hello

the above line enables all warnings and will help you write clean code.
'hello.c' is the name of the source file you create, it will be output as a
program called 'hello', that is what the -o is for.

A common problem new coders have is they create a file called 'test' this is a
bad name for a program because it has the possibility of being replaced by
/bin/test when you run it.

$ gcc test.c -o test
$ test
$
and nothing happens.  TO be sure run all your programs with a path

$ ./test # use the 'test' program in ./ (aka this directory)


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Re: Quicken under debian

2002-06-28 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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On Friday 28 June 2002 06:01 pm, Neal Lippman wrote:
> I am wondering if anyone could recommend a solution for using Quicken on my
> debian woody system. Quicken is essentially the ONLY windows application
> that I still need, and thus is the only reason that my laptop still has
> windows98 loaded on it.
>
> As far as I can tell, wine does not yet support Quicken, nor does the
> Crossover platform that has gotten a lot of press for its MSOffice support.
>
> I am not adverse to running VMWare if that's the best way to accomplish
> this task (btw, since vmware is proprietary, I assume there are no debs,
> but just the tarball and rpms on their web site).
>
> I am a bit adverse to using Win4Lin, only because that would involve using
> their patched kernel, and I like using the standard kernels.
>
> Thanks.
> nl

This was EXACTLY why I purchased VMWare. Then I installed EVERY M$ o/s I had,
and followed that with the *nix's I wanted to play with. Last count was 14
o/s running in VMWare under Debian. And yes Virginia, it IS worth it!! :--)

Though! I have been told that the newest Wine is supposed to handle Q & 
QB
rather nicely. (shrug)

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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread David Richmond
On Friday 28 June 2002 05:36 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 19:30, David Richmond wrote:
> >
> > Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be
> > on the primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the
> > primary
>
> --snip--
>
> I think that's only relevant if you install 98 first. I dual boot 98 and
> linux on my laptop, and 98 is on hda2 while linux is hda1. The 98
> bootloader probably wouldn't like that, but since I'm using lilo, the 98
> bootloader never comes into play. I don't know how it reacts to being on
> a slave drive though as I've only got a single HD.
>
> -Alex

AFAIK, Windows _is_ fine booting off a partition when LILO is in the master 
boot record of the same hard drive.  However, when Windows is on a separate 
drive from LILO, the Windows bootloader is resident in the MBR on the 
separate drive, and _it_ balks at being anything other than primaryI 
think.  Hence the ability in lilo.conf to mangle the drive order before LILO 
passes control to the MBR of the other drive.

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Ot c++ programming in linux

2002-06-28 Thread faisal gillani
Well i am a newbie learning c++ these days we are
being thaught on turbo c 3.0 but as like other things
i want to work on c++ in linux .. so i installed gcc
on my linux box but i dont have any idea how to
install it for example i write a program as follows in
turbo c

#include
#include
void main (void)
{
printf("hello world");
}



how do i write the same program in gcc ?
i have tried the same but it gives out error the
#in... files not found 
what can i do & how to compile this program ?

thanks
faisal

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Re: Resizing partitions..

2002-06-28 Thread Andrew Biggadike
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 12:46, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> Sorry I got into this thread a bit late. Since it looks like you're
> already using Partition Magic, just an ethical heads up for future
> reference. With the exception of working with NTFS partitions, GNU
> parted, in my experience, works much better than PM as far as resizing
> goes. It's also a native linux app and is GPL'd therefore making it much
> more attractive from the ethical standpoint. And best of all, unlike PM,
> it won't butcher your partition numbers.

What exactly do you mean by butcher your partition numbers?  I haven't
done it yet and might like to try parted - not necessarily for ethical
reasons (though I certainly understand what you're saying), but just to
learn more about linux.  My main concern is that I might mess it up, and
the other way seems to be easier.

> Since you're using the NT Bootloader, you don't have to worry about your
> MBR while resizing. Since you're just going to be working with the tail
> end of hda1 nothing before that should be affected. Now, you said you
> wanted to take space from hda1 and add it to hda3 right? In this case
> you're going to need to resize hda1, then either move or resize hda2 (to
> get it next to hda1 again) and then resize hda3. I hope that makes
> sense. :) As long as all of your parition numbers remain the same, this
> shouldn't be an issue, though I'd make sure you have a boot disk handy
> either way.

That's sort of what I had intended .. just shrinking hda1, sliding hda2
down, and giving the rest of the room to hda3.  I'll definitely have a
boot disk ..

> I used to use the NT Bootloader myself, but I got tired of needing to go
> through two loaders to get to linux so I just put lilo in the MBR. Just
> add:
> 
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=Windows  <-- or whatever you want the label to be
> 
> to your /etc/lilo.conf.

Hmm, I guess that would prevent me from having to `dd if=/dev/hda3
of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1` everytime I recompile the kernel, no? 
After I add those lines, would all I have to do is `lilo -b /dev/hda`?

Thanks for all the info,

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Re: moves dot files to different directory

2002-06-28 Thread Bob Proulx
> > > ls -ad ~/.[^.]*

This is one of the FAQs in fileutils.  Check it out!

  
http://www.gnu.org/software/fileutils/doc/faq/#ls%20-a%20*%20does%20not%20list%20dot%20files

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Re: stack and heap size documentation

2002-06-28 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:57:36PM -0700, Paul Scott,,, wrote:
> I have been searching for documentation on default stack and heap sizes 
> with g++/gcc and how to change them if necessary.  I haven't had any 
> luck so far.
> 
> I have been getting segmenatation faults possibly related to my use of 
> the new operator.

Your probably corrupting memory somewhere.  AFAIK, "new" should only
fail if you're totally out of memory (and then do so in a predictable
manner).  Segfaults are rarely due to programming errors in the
compiler and standard library.

Start by compiling with warnings turned up and debugging symbols turned
on... 

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Samba

2002-06-28 Thread Joe Wise








When I tried to connect my linux box to my win2k for sharing
files I used:

 

Smbmount //wren/public /home/public U adminj I 192.168.0.100

 

I was then prompted for a password and supplied the password
for adminj (for win2k box)

 

Message comes back:  session setup failed:  Errdos
– ERRnoaccess (access denied)

 

(Where wren is the name of the win2k box, public is a shared
folder on wren, /home/public is a folder created on linux box, adminj is a user
on the win2k box and IP is address for wren.)

 

Any help?

 

Thanks,






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Re: unzip from sid requires libc5

2002-06-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> 
> Right.  ldd /usr/bin/unzip shows libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001b000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
> 
> It is something screwed up with 'my' account!
> 
> It gives this error  "unzip: can't load library 'libc.so.5'" when run 
> as me but works fine when run as root.  Just tried other users and it
> is OK there. Greping my home dir for unzip comes up empty so I don't
> have anything in bash* causing it.  Logging out and back in doesn't 
> fix it but installing libc5 does (???).  My home dir goes back 6-7
> years and I am running woody/Sid currently.  It has to be something in 
> there, I guess.  Weird
> 

an ld_preload perhaps?


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syslog: icmplogd: destination unreachable?

2002-06-28 Thread Dave Price
I just noticed a recurring 'error' message in my forewall's syslog:

icmplogd: dbx destination unreachable from localhost [127.0.0.1]

{dbx is the 'local' name for my host, and it is reachable}  any idea
what might cause this?

aloha,
dave


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Quicken under debian

2002-06-28 Thread Neal Lippman
I am wondering if anyone could recommend a solution for using Quicken on my 
debian woody system. Quicken is essentially the ONLY windows application that 
I still need, and thus is the only reason that my laptop still has windows98 
loaded on it.

As far as I can tell, wine does not yet support Quicken, nor does the 
Crossover platform that has gotten a lot of press for its MSOffice support.

I am not adverse to running VMWare if that's the best way to accomplish this 
task (btw, since vmware is proprietary, I assume there are no debs, but just 
the tarball and rpms on their web site).

I am a bit adverse to using Win4Lin, only because that would involve using 
their patched kernel, and I like using the standard kernels.

Thanks.
nl


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stack and heap size documentation

2002-06-28 Thread Paul Scott,,,
I have been searching for documentation on default stack and heap sizes 
with g++/gcc and how to change them if necessary.  I haven't had any 
luck so far.


I have been getting segmenatation faults possibly related to my use of 
the new operator.


Can anyone give me any leads?

TIA,

Paul Scott


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Re: unzip from sid requires libc5

2002-06-28 Thread Wayne Topa
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> 
> On 28-Jun-2002 Wayne Topa wrote:
> > 
> > I ran deborphan last week and removed libc5, among others.  I
> > received a zip file today and found that unzip 5.50-1 from unstable
> > requires libc5 but apt-cache show unzip does not have it listed as a
> > requirement.
> > 
> > Seems odd that a program in unstable would require an old version libc
> > or am I missing something.
> > 
> 
> according to my available file unzip 5.50-1 'Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2)'.
> 
> apt-cache seems confused.

Right.  ldd /usr/bin/unzip shows libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001b000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

It is something screwed up with 'my' account!

It gives this error  "unzip: can't load library 'libc.so.5'" when run 
as me but works fine when run as root.  Just tried other users and it
is OK there. Greping my home dir for unzip comes up empty so I don't
have anything in bash* causing it.  Logging out and back in doesn't 
fix it but installing libc5 does (???).  My home dir goes back 6-7
years and I am running woody/Sid currently.  It has to be something in 
there, I guess.  Weird

I'm looking...
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CUPS config. under debian

2002-06-28 Thread Neal Lippman
Running debian woody, to which I am a recent convert from Mandrake. I chose 
to install CUPS, which I used with success under mandrake. Interestingly, I 
have both cupsd and lpd running at startup now, but that part I can deal 
with...

My question: I have cupsd running on the mandrake box on my LAN, which now 
functions as my NFS and SMB server, while the debian box is my workstation. 
To use cups for printing on the workstation, should I ALSO have cupds running 
on the workstation? Should it be configured to try to find the printer 
available through the cupsd instance on the server, or should it be 
connecting directly to the printer (which is on the network, not attached to 
any specific computer) via ipp?

Any help appreciated; I cannot figure this out from the cups documentation. 
Configuring cups to browse the network for available printers did not work, 
even though I followed the cups docs exactly in setting that up...

nl


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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread nick lidakis

David Richmond wrote:


On Friday 28 June 2002 03:50 am, nick lidakis wrote:
 


I currently have 2 hard drives and was trying to set up a dual boot
system. The jumpers are propoerly set and the bios recognises them
the 40gb is the master with linux. The 16gb is the windows 98. I was
using the in a removable hard drive tray configuration but decided to
install them both as master and slave.
   


[snip]

Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on the 
primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary 
master and the windows drive is the secondary master, but LILO remaps the 
drives when booting windows to make the windows drive the primary on the fly.  
Here's the relevant section of my /etc/lilo.conf:


[snip]
other=/dev/hdc1
label="Windows"
loader = /boot/chain.b
   map-drive = 0x80
   to = 0x81
   map-drive = 0x81
   to = 0x80
table = /dev/hdc
[snip]

I had a similar problem as yours; I finally found the answer in a SuSE manual.  
Of course, now it doesn't matter, as I don't boot into windows anymore.. 
:)


Hope this helps,
David Richmond
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Thank you, I'll try it tonight. I only keep Win98 to play some Rogue Spear.


nick



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Re: Flash Editor for Debian

2002-06-28 Thread Waheed Islam
it's probably not much but you might wanna check out:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/swiftgenerator/?topic_id=90

- Original Message -
From: Erik Mathisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 28 June 2002 19:49
Subject: Flash Editor for Debian


Hello,

I have to create some flash movie (or whatever they are called) at
work.  I will be using Flash FX on windows (I have to), but I would
like to play with it at home on my Debian box.  I've looked around,
but can not seem to find any, but are there any Flash editors/creators
for Debain?  Or even just Linux in general.

Thanks,

Erik

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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Scott Henson
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 08:11, nick lidakis wrote:
> >
> > If I'm not mistaken, Win98 insists on being in the first partition on 
> > the first drive (e.g. /dev/hda1).
> >
> > Kent
> >
> >
> >
> 
> So I would have to physically switch the drives (and jumpers) around?
nope
Grub and I think LILO both have the ability to switch the drive bios
numbers around thus fooling windows.  But the good news is that you can
leave win98 on hda1 and just install grub or lilo to hda.  I have had
this set up for quite a while even though I never boot into windows
anymore.  I dont even know if grub will boot windows acctually... havent
had a need to boot to windows since I changed over to grub... oh well...
I hear it works though.
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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 19:30, David Richmond wrote:
> On Friday 28 June 2002 03:50 am, nick lidakis wrote:
> > I currently have 2 hard drives and was trying to set up a dual boot
> > system. The jumpers are propoerly set and the bios recognises them
> > the 40gb is the master with linux. The 16gb is the windows 98. I was
> > using the in a removable hard drive tray configuration but decided to
> > install them both as master and slave.
> [snip]
> 
> Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on 
> the 
> primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary 
--snip--

I think that's only relevant if you install 98 first. I dual boot 98 and
linux on my laptop, and 98 is on hda2 while linux is hda1. The 98
bootloader probably wouldn't like that, but since I'm using lilo, the 98
bootloader never comes into play. I don't know how it reacts to being on
a slave drive though as I've only got a single HD.

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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
> Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on 
> the 
> primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary 
> master and the windows drive is the secondary master, but LILO remaps the 
> drives when booting windows to make the windows drive the primary on the fly. 
>  
> Here's the relevant section of my /etc/lilo.conf:
> 
> [snip]
> other=/dev/hdc1
>   label="Windows"
>   loader = /boot/chain.b
>  map-drive = 0x80
>  to = 0x81
>  map-drive = 0x81
>  to = 0x80
>   table = /dev/hdc
> [snip]

Yes, Windows wants to be the 1st drive all of the time. But that
doesn't mean you have to give into it :)

The easiest way I found (if you do not want Windows on the 1st drive)
is to install linux on the primary 1st, then disconnect the drive.
Move the 2nd disk to the primary, and install windows on it. Move it
back to the 2ndary, put back the linux drive and adjust your
bootloader.

This way, if you ever bonk your linux drive for any reason, you can
still move the Win partition back to primary and let it boot itself.


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Advogato: Debian considered harmful

2002-06-28 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
Debian considered harmful?

Friday June 28, 2002 - [ 10:57 PM GMT ]
Topic - GNU/Linux

  Advogato: " Some consider it rite of passage to have a
  Debian-based system. This is not only because it's the
  true GNU Linux, but perhaps also because it has a
  reputation of being hard to install. Whether it deserves
  this reputation or not, there is a certain coolness and
  mystique associated with Debian as the completely
  open-source distribution. This attracts hackers, but is
  Debian the right system for a hacker? Or is Debian
  merely an unfortunate hurdle for a would-be Linux
  hacker?" Read more here [1].  

http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/02/06/28/2219224.shtml?tid=23

[1] http://www.advogato.org/article/509.html

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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread David Richmond
On Friday 28 June 2002 03:50 am, nick lidakis wrote:
> I currently have 2 hard drives and was trying to set up a dual boot
> system. The jumpers are propoerly set and the bios recognises them
> the 40gb is the master with linux. The 16gb is the windows 98. I was
> using the in a removable hard drive tray configuration but decided to
> install them both as master and slave.
[snip]

Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on the 
primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary 
master and the windows drive is the secondary master, but LILO remaps the 
drives when booting windows to make the windows drive the primary on the fly.  
Here's the relevant section of my /etc/lilo.conf:

[snip]
other=/dev/hdc1
label="Windows"
loader = /boot/chain.b
   map-drive = 0x80
   to = 0x81
   map-drive = 0x81
   to = 0x80
table = /dev/hdc
[snip]

I had a similar problem as yours; I finally found the answer in a SuSE manual.  
Of course, now it doesn't matter, as I don't boot into windows anymore.. 
:)

Hope this helps,
David Richmond
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Thanks - Re: hard drive NOT found during install!

2002-06-28 Thread Waheed Islam

Thanks for the help and research dude.

I've already tried the UDMA66 and IDEPCI flavors of Debian, unfortunately, 
no success.


I'll probably get a friend or someone to compile the "drivers" supplied by 
ACard and see what I can make of it.
If that doesn't work, I think I'll have to sell this card on and buy one 
which is listed as being supported by Debian / Linux.


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At 28/06/02 14:04, you wrote:


> Hi,
>
> Could you PLEASE help!
>
> during installation...
>
> my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody.
> It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS).


my best suggestion is to try the IDE install disks:

http://saens.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/
chances are very good that there are no drivers available for it
though.(on that disk)

you can see a list of supported chipsets for linux here:
http://www.linux-ide.org/chipsets.html

(some may require newer kernels and/or 3rd party patches to run)

Ultra133 controllers are very very new .

in this situation, I would move the install drive to a controller that
is supported, install to it, and if your lucky you may be able to
track down a driver(possibly in the 2.4. kernel). then perhaps you
can migrate back to the other controller.

with IDE controllers so cheap if it was my system i would get a promise
ATA 100 controller instead ..(and use the IDE install disks) but
thats me

nate




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Re: How do I change de IP addresses in woody

2002-06-28 Thread Brian Nelson
Noah Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 01:14:17PM -0600, Romel Sandoval wrote:
>> I want to change the IP address of two woody machines to 192.168.1.x and
>> I changed the /etc/hosts file but I notice that the machines still
>> respond to their old IP adresses. Well I know this by using the ping
>> command.
>
> It's amazing the variety of responses I've seen to your question here.
> Just edit /etc/network/interfaces.  Don't look in /etc/init.d/ anywhere,

But you do want to use

# /etc/init.d/networking restart

after changing /etc/network/interfaces...

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Re: moves dot files to different directory

2002-06-28 Thread Brian Nelson
Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:21:18AM -0500, Henning, Brian wrote:
> | hello all-
> | I have the task of moving all my hidden files to another directory. how can
> | i select only these files and not the standard files.
> | 
> | ls .* doesn't seem to work.
>
> It does (but without "-a" you won't see them), but it includes '.' and
> '..' also :-) (you don't want to 'cp -r' those).
>
>
> ls -ad ~/.[^.]*

>From man ls,

   -A, --almost-all
  do not list implied . and ..

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Flash Editor for Debian

2002-06-28 Thread Erik Mathisen
Hello,

I have to create some flash movie (or whatever they are called) at
work.  I will be using Flash FX on windows (I have to), but I would
like to play with it at home on my Debian box.  I've looked around,
but can not seem to find any, but are there any Flash editors/creators
for Debain?  Or even just Linux in general.

Thanks,

Erik

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Re: Problem with ssh

2002-06-28 Thread Brian Nelson
Sam Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 09:25:52PM +0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> I have a problem with my ssh, when i try to connect to our server using
>> ssh have an error like this :
>> 
>> ssh -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 2f65 7463 2f73 7368
>> Disconnecting: Bad packet length 795178083.
>> 
>> 
>> What's Wrong with my server or my ssh client. And how to solve them.
>
> Your ssh client is probably using protocol version 1 and the server you are
> trying to log in to is using protocol version 2.
>
> I had the same problem. On woody the ssh client which comes with Openssh uses
> protocol version 1. I installed ssh2 and used it instead.

Don't do that.  ssh2 is the evil non-free secure shell.  ssh in woody
support version 2 fine, anyway.  Maybe you're referring to potato's ssh?

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Re: makefile to get iostream.h, etc

2002-06-28 Thread Brian Nelson
"Paul Scott,,," <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Paul Scott,,, wrote:
>
>> Colin Watson wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 01:45:41AM -0700, Paul Scott,,, wrote:
>>>
>>> I would guess that naming C++ source files foo.c doesn't help. Try
>>> foo.cpp instead, and then make's default rules will be more useful to
>>> you.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Silly me.  That makes sense.  I'll let you know if it doesn't work.
>
>
> It didn't.  Here's what I have so far.  I didn't see anything in 'info
> make'.  I have programming with GNU Software as a reference but it
> doesn't say much about g++ with make.  I'm an incremental
> programmer. This looked like almost enough:
>
> LIBS = -lm
>
> OBJS = fixext2fs.o Ext2fs.o display.o
>
> DEBUGOBJS = fixext2fs.do Ext2fs.do display.do
>
> EXECNAME = fixext2fs
>
> fixext2fs: $(OBJS)
$(EXECNAME): $(OBJS)

>g++ -o $(EXECNAME) $(OBJS) $(LIBS)
>
> debug: $(DEBUGOBJS)
>g++ -o $(EXECNAME) $(DEBUGOBJS)
>
> fixext2fs.o: fixext2fs.cpp
This shouldn't be necessary...

> clean:
>rm *.o *.do *~
>rm fixext2fs
 -rm $(OBJS) $(DEBUGOBS) $(EXECNAME) *~

What output do you get when you run make, including the g++ statements?

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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread nick lidakis


If I'm not mistaken, Win98 insists on being in the first partition on 
the first drive (e.g. /dev/hda1).


Kent





So I would have to physically switch the drives (and jumpers) around?


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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Kent West

nick lidakis wrote:

Alex Malinovich wrote:


On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 05:50, nick lidakis wrote:

 


  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   * 1  2055  16506756c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
charlene:/etc#
  


--snip--
 


other=/dev/hdb
   label=Windows98
  



You have to specify the partition number in the "other" line:

other=/dev/hdb1

-Alex
 


I made the changes:   other=/dev/hdb1
 label=Windows98

Ran lilo, rebooted, and the machine still hangs .



nick



If I'm not mistaken, Win98 insists on being in the first partition on 
the first drive (e.g. /dev/hda1).


Kent



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Re: Comments on the new gnome-terminal.

2002-06-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 17:39, Rick Macdonald wrote:

> I believe the release notes for Gnome-2 say that you have to exit to get
> changes to take effect, and that this will be fixed for the next (minor)
> release. Have a look at the release notes. They say the purposely removed
> many configuration options throughout Gnome.

Exiting the terminal had no effect. I haven't tried restarting gnome
itself however.

I did, however, find a solution that works for me at least. I had tried
doing the changes by hand with no luck, as well as using gconftool with
no luck. All I had to do was use gconftool-2 and all is well now. Since
gnome-terminal is a Gnome 2 application I guess it needs the Gnome 2
gconftool? Hopefully this'll help someone else as well. And here's a
page with some decent documentation on gconf in general:

http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/

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Re: How do I change de IP addresses in woody

2002-06-28 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 23:09, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

> don't install any new software, just edit the one file that the
> interface gets its IP address from.

etherconf is totally ok, works even if you don't know what you're doing,
can bee setup by everyone who has setup networking in windows or on the
mac. The original post to me gave the impression that an easy to use
tool would come in quite handy. Also, i think its strange that someone
with a debian.org address (by extension) discourages the use of debconf,
which is normal part of a default debian install.



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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread nick lidakis

Alex Malinovich wrote:


On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 05:50, nick lidakis wrote:

 


  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   * 1  2055  16506756c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
charlene:/etc#
   


--snip--
 


other=/dev/hdb
   label=Windows98
   



You have to specify the partition number in the "other" line:

other=/dev/hdb1

-Alex
 


I made the changes:   other=/dev/hdb1
 label=Windows98

Ran lilo, rebooted, and the machine still hangs .



nick




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Re: How to set serial ports over reboot

2002-06-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 04:02:03PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> (Also, I understand it's a "bug" for a Debian package to ship without a 
> man page; is it also a bug for the man page to be wrong?

Of course. I don't know the answer to your particular problem, although
for what it's worth 'dpkg -L setserial' lists an /etc/serial.conf.

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Re: Comments on the new gnome-terminal.

2002-06-28 Thread Rick Macdonald

Alex Malinovich said:
> On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 14:11, Alan Shutko wrote:
>> Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > Is there a config file for this terminal anywhere that I can edit by
>> > hand so I can at least get a working font set up?
>>
>> ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/%gconf.xml
>>
>> I'm sure there's some way to get gconftool to do it, but I couldn't
>> figure out how.
>
> Are you having any luck getting any changes in there to actually stick?
> I've found the x_font line, but changing the font doesn't have any
> effect. Changing the font from within the terminal works after I
> restart the terminal, but the change is never reflected in %gconf.xml

I believe the release notes for Gnome-2 say that you have to exit to get
changes to take effect, and that this will be fixed for the next (minor)
release. Have a look at the release notes. They say the purposely removed
many configuration options throughout Gnome.
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gotmail not working?

2002-06-28 Thread Roach, Mark R.
gotmail seems to have suddenly stopped working for me, is anyone else
experiencing this? It has been working fine (via cron job) until last
night apparently.


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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread nick lidakis

Alex Malinovich wrote:


On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 05:50, nick lidakis wrote:

 


  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   * 1  2055  16506756c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
charlene:/etc#
   


--snip--
 


other=/dev/hdb
   label=Windows98
   



You have to specify the partition number in the "other" line:

other=/dev/hdb1

-Alex
 






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Re: Problem with ssh

2002-06-28 Thread Richard Cobbe
(Snipped all the cross-posts.)

Lo, on Friday, June 28, Sam Varghese did write:

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> 
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 09:25:52PM +0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > I have a problem with my ssh, when i try to connect to our server using
> > ssh have an error like this :
> > 
> > ssh -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 2f65 7463 2f73 7368
> > Disconnecting: Bad packet length 795178083.
> > 
> > 
> > What's Wrong with my server or my ssh client. And how to solve them.
> 
> Your ssh client is probably using protocol version 1 and the server you are
> trying to log in to is using protocol version 2.
> 
> I had the same problem. On woody the ssh client which comes with Openssh uses
> protocol version 1. I installed ssh2 and used it instead.

Not correct.  In woody, both packages support both versions.  OpenSSH
defaults to protocol v1; for v2, supply the `-2' switch to ssh or add
the appropriate line to ~/.ssh/config.

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Re: makefile to get iostream.h, etc

2002-06-28 Thread Brian Nelson
"Paul Scott,,," <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I have been working on a program to recover some data from a broken ext2
> partition.  I have been using streaming objects.
>
> When I compile with g++ with no options the header files iostream.h and
> fstream.h are found just fine.
>
> I am now trying to write a makefile which I haven't done for many years
> and not on a Linux system.  I get:
>
> fixext2fs.c:1: iostream.h: No such file or directory
> fixext2fs.c:2: fstream.h: No such file or directory
> fixext2fs.c:3: iomanip.h: No such file or directory
> In file included from fixext2fs.c:8:
> Ext2fs.h:4: fstream.h: No such file or directory
> In file included from Ext2fs.h:7,
>   from fixext2fs.c:8:
> display.h:4: iostream.h: No such file or directory
> display.h:6: sstream: No such file or directory
> display.h:7: fstream.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [fixext2fs.o] Error 1

First of all, drop the .h extension from the #include directives.  They
are deprecated in C++.  They should like like:

#include 
#include 
...

> How do I tell the makefile how to find these?

Don't.

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Re: Setting up a server

2002-06-28 Thread David Wright

> However, if I try to submit any iptables commands, like: iptables -L
> I get an error: "modprobe: can't locate module ip_tables
> iptables v1.2.6a: can't initialize iptables table 'filter': iptables
> who? (do you need to insmod?)

First off, decide whether you are using ipchains or iptables. Then forget
the other one. If you mention both in your posts, no one will know what
you want to do.

Second, get things working with a Debian stock 2.4 kernel; that way you
can be sure that the necessary modules exist. You can compile your own
later.

Running iptables should load the necessary modules automagically, but you
can always load them by hand to make sure you have them:
  modprobe ip_tables
Don't use insmod ever unless you are very sure of what you are doing.


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Re: How do I change de IP addresses in woody

2002-06-28 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 02:18:39PM -0700, Larry Smith wrote:
> I finally got my networking by setting up the
> /etc/init.d/network file, and the interfaces file only
> has an entry for the loopback.

$ man 5 interfaces

It's fairly well documented.

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Re: potato question

2002-06-28 Thread nate

> Could someone do a "which perl" on a debian system
> with potato installed? I need to know where it
> lives.

perl is always in /usr/bin on every debian system i've used ...

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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 05:50, nick lidakis wrote:

>Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
> /dev/hdb1   * 1  2055  16506756c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
> charlene:/etc#
--snip--
> other=/dev/hdb
> label=Windows98

You have to specify the partition number in the "other" line:

other=/dev/hdb1

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Re: Setting up a server

2002-06-28 Thread curtis

No, that don't work.

Below is a previous post of mine.  In response to this, one person said 
to use iptables since I was using 2.4.xx kernel.


However, if I try to submit any iptables commands, like: iptables -L
I get an error: "modprobe: can't locate module ip_tables
iptables v1.2.6a: can't initialize iptables table 'filter': iptables 
who? (do you need to insmod?)

Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded."

So, does this mean I didn't compile it in my kernel as I thought?  I 
assume this is Network packet filtering that I mentioned below.



---

Having compiled a 2.4.18 kernel with Freeswan I discover the following 
problem:


When I try to give the command, for example: ipchains -P forward DENY
I get an error: "ipchains: Protocol not available"

But I see that I the ipchains packet installed. There isn't an ipchains 
to be configured into the kernel, however, there is the option: Network 
packet filtering (replaces ipchains), which I'm pretty certain I did 
check. 
What is the cause of this?


Thanks


David Wright wrote:


echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

and configure iptables masquerading. Start with something simple, like
making sure you can forward a ping, and watch everything with ethereal.





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Re: Setting up a server

2002-06-28 Thread David Wright

echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

and configure iptables masquerading. Start with something simple, like
making sure you can forward a ping, and watch everything with ethereal.


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Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread nick lidakis
I currently have 2 hard drives and was trying to set up a dual boot 
system. The jumpers are propoerly set and the bios recognises them
the 40gb is the master with linux. The 16gb is the windows 98. I was 
using the in a removable hard drive tray configuration but decided to 
install them both as master and slave.


fdisk -l /dev/hdb


Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2055 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   * 1  2055  16506756c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
charlene:/etc#

I read the howto's on the LDP and here is an excerpt from my lilo.conf

# Boot up Linux by default.
#
default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
   append="video=atyfb:mode:1280x1024:font:SUN12x22"
   label=Linux
   read-only
#   restricted
#   alias=1

image=/vmlinuz.old
   label=LinuxOLD
   read-only
   optional
#   restricted
#   alias=2

# If you have another OS on this machine to boot, you can uncomment the
# following lines, changing the device name on the `other' line to
# where your other OS' partition is.
#
other=/dev/hdb
   label=Windows98
  
When the prompt comes up I can boot int Linux and LinuxOld but not 
windows 98. It just hangs. Lilo is on the master harddrives MBR.


Is there something I overlooked on the HOWTO's



nick


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Re: Comments on the new gnome-terminal.

2002-06-28 Thread Alan Shutko
Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Are you having any luck getting any changes in there to actually stick?

It's worked so far.  I closed all terminals, edited the file in emacs,
and started a new terminal.

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Setting up a server

2002-06-28 Thread curtis
Recently I set up a 2.4.18 machine, with which I can connect to the 
Internet at home on one NIC and the other is connected to a hub with 
another computer.  The internal address scheme is: 10.0.0.0/24.


Although the computers have interconnectivity, I can't gain access to 
the Internet from the 'other' computer.  I assume this is because I have 
to configure iptables.  Can someone confirm that this is the case?


Thanks

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Problems with make html_docs for an app

2002-06-28 Thread Sivea Key
Following the advice of others more savvy with the app, OneSAF Test Bed
(OTB), I went to the app directory and typed make html_docs.  Examples of
the errors to follow (tried to send to a file but somehow captured none of
the errors, only what worked, sorry).

At top of screen:

"terminal.0:/usr/local/OTB/src/public/texinfo-4.0/info/terminal.c:593 more
defined references to 'tgetstr' follow"

examples of what followed:

"/usr/local/OTB/src/public/texinfo-4.0/info/terminal.c:625: undefined
references to 'tgetflag' "
"/usr/local/OTB/src/public/texinfo-4.0/info/terminal.c:628: undefined
references to 'tgetstr' "

several more of this type, then:

"collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]:***[ginfo] Error1
make[2]:***[install-recursive] Error1
make[1]:***[/usr/local/OTB/bin/makeinfo] Error2
make:***[html_docs] Error2"

Then it returned to the debian prompt.

I tried typing make clean html_docs as user then logged in as root and tried
(since other OTB issues resolved when done as root). No luck.

Any ideas?


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Re: Comments on the new gnome-terminal.

2002-06-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 14:11, Alan Shutko wrote:
> Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Is there a config file for this terminal anywhere that I can edit by
> > hand so I can at least get a working font set up?
> 
> ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/%gconf.xml
> 
> I'm sure there's some way to get gconftool to do it, but I couldn't
> figure out how.

Are you having any luck getting any changes in there to actually stick?
I've found the x_font line, but changing the font doesn't have any
effect. Changing the font from within the terminal works after I restart
the terminal, but the change is never reflected in %gconf.xml

Ideas?

-Alex


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potato question

2002-06-28 Thread Timothy Bedding
Could someone do a "which perl" on a debian system
with potato installed? I need to know where it
lives.


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Re: How do I change de IP addresses in woody

2002-06-28 Thread Larry Smith
Noah wrote:

--- Noah Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 01:14:17PM -0600, Romel
> Sandoval wrote:
> > I want to change the IP address of two woody
> machines to 192.168.1.x and
> > I changed the /etc/hosts file but I notice that
> the machines still
> > respond to their old IP adresses. Well I know this
> by using the ping
> > command.
> 
> It's amazing the variety of responses I've seen to
> your question here.
> Just edit /etc/network/interfaces.  Don't look in
> /etc/init.d/ anywhere,
> don't install any new software, just edit the one
> file that the
> interface gets its IP address from.
> 
> noah
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It's interesting that you should say that.

I had to get my Potato net working without the aid of
the install scripts, because the install kernal
couldn't load my internet card driver, and thus
wouldn't let me fill in the network menus.

Hunting the net all over, I found all kinds of advice,
lots of it not specific to Debian.  That specific to
Debian listed both the interfaces file you mention,
and the init.d/network file. 

I finally got my networking by setting up the
/etc/init.d/network file, and the interfaces file only
has an entry for the loopback.

After all the Debian stuff I read (they listed their
network manual on Debian site as incomplete, I can
verify that), I could never quite understand what was
what.  Got it to work anyway, by brute force and some
experience with Redhat.



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Re: Gnome Terminal

2002-06-28 Thread Scott Henson
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 16:58, Steve Juranich wrote:
> Fcc: outmail
> 
> > Check out this thread:
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200206/thrd10.html#04843
> 
> Oops.  Specifically, this message:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200206/msg04864.html
> 

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200206/msg04861.html

This link was more helpful, but for some reason none of this thread had
arrived before I sent my message.  I was able to get my terminal back to
some semblance of looking good by closing it down after every change. 
Maybe Ill look into using gconf.  Sorry for the unnecessary traffic.

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Re: Gnome Terminal

2002-06-28 Thread Henrik Enberg
Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Today I did an apt-get dist-upgrade and it brought down gnome-terminal2
> to replace gnome-terminal.  I like to see the new gnome2 packages
> comming down on to my system, but this new gnome-terminal looks
> horrible.

Indeed.  The default look is complete arse.

> It is black text of a white background with a horrible font.  I want
> it back to the way it was before the upgrade, but when I go in to try
> and customize it, I cant really change anything.  It wont let me
> change the background color, or the text font or color.

It worked just fine for me.  See if getting rid of `~/.gnome/Terminal'
makes a difference.

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Re: How do I change de IP addresses in woody

2002-06-28 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 01:14:17PM -0600, Romel Sandoval wrote:
> I want to change the IP address of two woody machines to 192.168.1.x and
> I changed the /etc/hosts file but I notice that the machines still
> respond to their old IP adresses. Well I know this by using the ping
> command.

It's amazing the variety of responses I've seen to your question here.
Just edit /etc/network/interfaces.  Don't look in /etc/init.d/ anywhere,
don't install any new software, just edit the one file that the
interface gets its IP address from.

noah

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Re: testing/unstable status?

2002-06-28 Thread nate

> I've got apt.preferences set up to use testign, except allow explicti
> choosing of unstable. I've noticed that over the past several weeks there
> have been few to no updates when I do apt-get update.
>
> What;s going on here?
>

hopefully testing is getting more frozen so it can be released..

it is possible that the mirror you are using also has not updated
itself in some time. I just ran apt-get update; apt-get -s upgrade
and saw 19 new packages that would be installed on one of my
testing systems, I haven't ran upgrade for about a month i think.

nate




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Re: what's on port 28001?

2002-06-28 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:56:40AM -0500, Bud Rogers wrote:
> I got more than 27000 of these last night between 8:00 and 9:00, coming 
> from 1371 different source IP's, all to destination port 28001.  What's 
> so interesting about that port?
> 
> Jun 27 20:02:02 twocups kernel: Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=ppp0 OUT= 
> MAC= SRC=64.228.91.172 DST=207.3.88.229 LEN=36 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 
> TTL=116 ID=34319 PROTO=UDP SPT=2437 DPT=28001 LEN=16

There is a multiplayer networked video game that communicates on that
port.  I suspect that at some point somebody else had your IP address
and ran a dedicated server that is entered in some database somewhere.
The packets you saw were probably people running a client that tries to
connect to a list of known databases to get a list of running games and
stuff.

Here's some more info about the game.  
http://www.codebear.com/cato/faq.htm
I was able to find many pages mentioning port 28001 and UDP with a quick 
google search.

The traffic was probably not malicious at all.

noah

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Re: hard drive NOT found during install!

2002-06-28 Thread nate

> Hi,
>
> Could you PLEASE help!
>
> during installation...
>
> my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody.
> It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS).


my best suggestion is to try the IDE install disks:

http://saens.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/
chances are very good that there are no drivers available for it
though.(on that disk)

you can see a list of supported chipsets for linux here:
http://www.linux-ide.org/chipsets.html

(some may require newer kernels and/or 3rd party patches to run)

Ultra133 controllers are very very new .

in this situation, I would move the install drive to a controller that
is supported, install to it, and if your lucky you may be able to
track down a driver(possibly in the 2.4. kernel). then perhaps you
can migrate back to the other controller.

with IDE controllers so cheap if it was my system i would get a promise
ATA 100 controller instead ..(and use the IDE install disks) but
thats me

nate




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Re: Problem with ssh

2002-06-28 Thread Moti Levy
Howland, Curtis wrote:

>First question:
>
>Has it worked before now?
>
>Second question:
>
>What did you change between then and now?
>
>Curt-
>
>  
>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>I have a problem with my ssh, when i try to connect to our 
>>server using
>>ssh have an error like this :
>>
>>ssh -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>2f65 7463 2f73 7368
>>Disconnecting: Bad packet length 795178083.
>>
>>
>>What's Wrong with my server or my ssh client. And how to solve them.
>>
>>
>>Thank's
>>
>>Ryansimon Aku
>>
>>
>
>
>  
>
I think you're using an ssh 1 client to connect to an ssh2 server
upgrade your ssh client .




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How to set serial ports over reboot

2002-06-28 Thread Kent West
I need to use setserial to set the parms on /dev/ttyS3. I can do this, 
but the settings don't hold over a reboot.


"man setserial" refers to "/etc/setserial.conf", but there is no such 
file. A "locate setserial.conf" doesn't return the location of such a 
file either, although there are similar files in /var/lib/dpkg and 
/var/lib/setserial.


I assume this is related to the "autosave once" option during install.

Can anyone tell me how to get this setting to be preserved over a reboot?

(Also, I understand it's a "bug" for a Debian package to ship without a 
man page; is it also a bug for the man page to be wrong? Should I file a 
bug report?)


Thanks!

Kent


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Re: Gnome Terminal

2002-06-28 Thread Steve Juranich
Fcc: outmail

> Check out this thread:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200206/thrd10.html#04843

Oops.  Specifically, this message:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200206/msg04864.html

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Re: Gnome Terminal

2002-06-28 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 04:28:37PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote:
> Today I did an apt-get dist-upgrade and it brought down gnome-terminal2
> to replace gnome-terminal.  I like to see the new gnome2 packages
> comming down on to my system, but this new gnome-terminal looks
> horrible.  It is black text of a white background with a horrible font.
> I want it back to the way it was before the upgrade, but when I go in to
> try and customize it, I cant really change anything.  It wont let me
> change the background color, or the text font or color.  Does anyone
> know how to change it back to the way it was before the upgrade while
> remaining with the new gnome2 package?

I don't have any gnome2 yet but you might try to apt-get
multi-gnome-terminal and see if it works. I like it much better than the
regular gnome-terminal anyway.

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Re: Gnome Terminal

2002-06-28 Thread Steve Juranich
You haven't bee paying attention today, have you? :)

Check out this thread:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200206/thrd10.html#04843



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Re: testing/unstable status?

2002-06-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 04:29:15PM -0400, stan wrote:
> I've got apt.preferences set up to use testign, except allow explicti
> choosing of unstable. I've noticed that over the past several weeks there
> have been few to no updates when I do apt-get update.
> 
> What;s going on here?

Preparations for the release mean that there have been virtually no
changes to testing.

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hard drive NOT found during install!

2002-06-28 Thread Waheed Islam

Hi,

Could you PLEASE help!

during installation...

my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody.
It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS).

The card is new and works perfectly in Win98, both my primary and secondary 
hdd's are connected to it.


The drive's are too large to be recognised by my motherboards' controller / 
bios. So that's no alternative.

(Both hdd's are Western Digital 40gig Caviar).

website for controller: 
http://www.acard.com/eng/product/adapter/pc/ide/aec-6280.html
The linux drivers are avail from: 
http://161.58.88.33/download/linux/driver/ide/aec6280_ver10.tar 
(un-compiled c).

And (i think) are included in the 2.4.x kernel versions.

I have tried the udma66 flavor of potato which supposedly includes support 
for the aec62xx cards (according to kernel-config).


I have read many how-to's and docs, no success.
Any suggestions, since this is my last hope to get potato installed.

Is there a way to execute the potato installation using a brand new 
pre-compiled kernel?
I don't have another linux box, thus can't compile a new kernel with 
support for the controller myself.


PLEASE HELP!

And thanks for reading / answering.
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RE: unzip from sid requires libc5

2002-06-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 28-Jun-2002 Wayne Topa wrote:
> 
> I ran deborphan last week and removed libc5, among others.  I
> received a zip file today and found that unzip 5.50-1 from unstable
> requires libc5 but apt-cache show unzip does not have it listed as a
> requirement.
> 
> Seems odd that a program in unstable would require an old version libc
> or am I missing something.
> 

according to my available file unzip 5.50-1 'Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2)'.

apt-cache seems confused.


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Gnome Terminal

2002-06-28 Thread Scott Henson
Today I did an apt-get dist-upgrade and it brought down gnome-terminal2
to replace gnome-terminal.  I like to see the new gnome2 packages
comming down on to my system, but this new gnome-terminal looks
horrible.  It is black text of a white background with a horrible font.
I want it back to the way it was before the upgrade, but when I go in to
try and customize it, I cant really change anything.  It wont let me
change the background color, or the text font or color.  Does anyone
know how to change it back to the way it was before the upgrade while
remaining with the new gnome2 package?

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