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RE: Installing new kernel
Mark, I think I just typed make to be honest. That's my own idiocy there, I should have known that it was make config (or make xconfig in X). It still seemed to work though. Could I have accidently broken something and it's not appearing in any manifestations yet? I did get options for video/sound/network. make-kpkg is not recognised on my Debian system. I'm not sure why. I've reinstalled Debian 4 times in the past near week and a half (because on some stuff i'd cocked up, and I couldn't find any reference on how to fix my cock-ups) and make-kpkg has previously worked. I'm at a loss as to why it's not working now. At what exact point of the process of compiling the new kernel would I do the make-kpkg. After everything else i've done? Or somewhere in between? I'd suspect between the make clean make dep and the make bzImage. That makes sense to my logic. But - woohoo! I've finally got X, networking and mount cdrom problem licked. So i'm rather tickled. Oh and apt-get is awesome. That has to be my fave thing about Debian so far. I can't stop raving about it. Anyways ta for advice, much appreciated. Dave -Original Message- From: Mark L. Kahnt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 4:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Subject: RE: Installing new kernel On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 02:01, David Pastern wrote: Bob, Excuse my ignorance, When I recently upgraded my kernel, I was told by a friend to do: apt-get install kernel-source-version (in my instance kernel-source-2.4.18). What is the difference between apt getting the kernel-image versus kernel-source? I noticed that the kernel-source d/l to /usr/src. Then I untarred it and went into the newly created dir and ran make. I then compiled the kernel and modules. After doing that I ran make dep make clean. Then I did make bzImage. I then did make modules and then make modules_install. Once that was all done I did depmod -a. I'm hoping that first make is something like make config, make menuconfig or make xconfig, so that you can adjust the kernel to the needs of your system, such as specific graphic, network or sound cards. Otherwise, everything you've done sounds like it is right out of the kernel source README, and what works fine for many people nearly every time. That said, using kernel-image-version allows people to draw upon pre-built kernels with modules for all manner of equipment - many modules that individual machines likely *don't* need. It works for most situations as well, but there is the chaff and it may not be the *most* efficient configuration for your machine. What is recommended with Debian, however, is to use make-kpkg after you do the configuring and make dep - it handles much of the individual aspects of preparing a kernel, including specific kernel source, headers and documentation for your configuration if you specify it, and creates .debs that you can install and remove with dpkg, which should make your future kernel management more efficient, and fit in with the overall Debian software management system. Once done I copied the System.map and bzImage files to the /boot dir and then renamed them with appropriate names. I then had to manually update lilo.conf and then restart lilo. Reboot and hey presto! Is the way i've done it wrong? It seems to have worked for me, and it was advice I received from a friend (a debian user), reading from several books and man pages. Please let me know if i'm doing things wrong. It does seem to have worked, and corresponds to what I read in my books! Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Subject: Re: Installing new kernel On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 09:54:10AM +0530, J.S.Sahambi wrote: Sorry, I meant kernel-image-2.4.19-686 (I think this is the latest!) Currently I have kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4. If I install the new kernel image with the command: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.19-686 , 1) will it install the kernel in a saparate dir and not mess up the dir of older kernel? It will install the kernel in the same directory, /boot, but it will have a unique name (vmlinuz-2.4.19-686). 2) will it add one more item inthe lilo for the new kernel and so that In can select the older kernel at boot time, in case I want? IIRC (I use grub), the older kernel gets labelled something like OldLinux, while the new one will be Linux. Grub will show many more possibilities if the kernels exist. 3) and will I be able to remove this new kerenl in case I want and still have the older kernel on the system. Yes. 4) do I have to install any other package apart from kernel-image-2.4.19-686? like kernel-header, etc? No (some self-compiled programs get the headers from kernel-headers or kernel-source, however). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,
Re: Whatever happened to Unidentified Subject!
On 0, Nick Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, * Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020910 14:51]: Paul Johnson wrote Whatever happened to Unidentified Subject lines that DU used to add to a blank subject line? If they're not coming back, how do you get procmail to filter against an empty subject line? You don't. From my .procmailrc: begin snip :0: * ^X-Mailing-List.*debian-user debian-user True, this works very well. However, Baloo asks an interesting question. It would be nice to send emails with no subject to /dev/null. Anyone got a procmail rule for finding empty headers? Haven't tried it, but shouldn't: :0: * ^Subject:[\ ]*$ /dev/null do it? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Other people's priorities are endlessly odd. - Kingsley Amis Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01541/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 11:04:35PM -0400, David P James wrote: For all the replies I've seen here, few seem to have read what he actually wrote. He does have a valid point - there is a high volume of email on this mailing list. For instance, I was offline for just 2 days when I moved from home to university over the weekend and when I checked my email afterwards there were well over 300 messages, most of them filtering into my debian-user folder. That is a lot of volume to have to sift through and delete if you want to preserve harddrive space, not to mention the extra time in doing so. Also, if you're not on a permanent connection, I'm sure there are bandwidth issues as well. I agree that the point he made is somewhat valid. I am subscribed to a couple of other lists as well. Should fetchmail for one reason or another not work for a couple of days, I am sure I will fill the mailbox at my isp rather quickly with the risk of personal email getting bounced. I hold you ALL responsible for this. So please, don't send so much email anymore. Remember, just because I installed Debian (recently) I want you to listen to me and do as I say. Don't make me leave. Mmm'kay?!? Bob p.s. perhaps the true meaning of OP got lost due to him not having native English language skills. Should this become clear by another message from him, the replies of the group would most likely be milder and we can all have a laugh about it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 06:35, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: I have been on this list for about 5 years, and I don't think I have ever seen one instance of Fuck Off. I have heard many people advise others to go away, but never actually as blunt or blatant as that. Wlll, there's certainly this one: http://people.debian.org/~branden/ And it's almost official, too. (Disclaimer: be sure to read the news, at least until you've read one of the entries in june. Really.) cheers -- vbi (what a stupid thread.) -- secure email with gpg http://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTICE: subkey signature! request key 92082481 from keyserver.kjsl.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
debconf 1.1.30 broken?
I have been having the following problem with debconf in the past week: root@expresso apt-get install debconf Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, debconf is already the newest version. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 224 not upgraded. 2 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Setting up debconf (1.1.30) ... Use of uninitialized value in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Cache.pm line 29. Use of uninitialized value in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 53, GEN1 line 6. Use of uninitialized value in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Cache.pm line 29, GEN1 line 6. Use of uninitialized value in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 53, GEN1 line 6. Use of uninitialized value in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Cache.pm line 29, GEN1 line 6. Use of uninitialized value in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 53, GEN1 line 6. Use of uninitialized value in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Cache.pm line 29, GEN1 line 6. Can't call method choices on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 85, GEN1 line 6. dpkg: error processing debconf (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of pcmcia-cs: pcmcia-cs depends on debconf (= 0.2.17); however: Package debconf is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing pcmcia-cs (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: debconf pcmcia-cs E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) As you can see, there is another problem with pcmcia-cs, but I do not want to upgrade that one as I hang my system each time I do it, requiring me to fsck my disks :( That's should be treated in another mail... Back to the problem: debconf doesn't update. I have no idea where this comes from neither how to solve it. A hint would be appreciated. Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 11:47:38AM +1000, David Pastern wrote: You guys are goddamn rude. If this is linux helpfulness at it's best god help linux and open source. To quote three dead trolls in a baggie' every os sucks.mp3: Yep, some are, some are not. I don't want to get philosophical and stuff so let me give an anecdote as well ;) This week a big software company released an update to their main os-product. This update is called SP1 and weighs in at 133mb. After downloading said update, it refused to install. My key is not valid. Did you know how much goddamn trouble I had to install the software in the first place. I mean finding someone with a copy of the software that allowed being installed was a big pain. Since the cdrom was not sealed, had a hologram, or was blessed in another way, it wasn't bootable. Man, the lenghts I had to go to make a bootable iso that included the contents of the first disc... Anyway, I am basically stuck. I could ofcourse spend a lot of money on new hardware + software and hope things work then. They'd better, because although being entitled to support I am sure nobody would (or could) help. Seriously, anyone making general statements on anything, just based on personal experience are most likely not very interesting. When my printer doesn't work in Linux (it doesn't at the moment), I'd rather post to sucks.me_do than bash world + dog. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 10:32:17PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: Quoting David Pastern [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You guys are goddamn rude. I made sure I was rude to that lamer by cc'ing to his email address. Damn straight I was rude to that disrespectful adolescent. Screw him, poor baby, he can't deal with email lists; we don't do things his way. Too fucking bad. You're funny, man. But from one Bob to another, please use smilies or you run the risk of being misunderstood. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
On 0, Josh Rehman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jerry Gaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] This is the third time I've subscribed to debian-user. Each time I leave in disgust because of the attitude of a few posters. Debian is *not* the easiest distribution to install, but some of you folks are not helping your cause. I agree with Jerry. Consider that as a new user of this list, I began with a post asking about ext3. I found the responses to be overall very helpful, although at first rather terse. Encouraged, I responded to a thread about the structure of the list itself, namely the use of reply-to headers. Instead of responding materially to my points, one poster, for example, made mention of my use of Outlook as a mail client, apparently attempted to embarrass or attack me. This is, of course, a variation of ad hominem. This argument is so common and recognizable in the computing field it can be given a special name, let us call it the 'ad technium' fallacy. The 'ad technium' fallacy is that the technology that one *uses* implies something about the correctness of their argument. So when someone attacks a user of this list for using Outlook (e.g., me) they are not considering that that person might not want to be using outlook, and, in fact, are using this list in order to stop using Outlook. (But not all criticism of technology usage is 'argumentum ad technium', especially in advocacy debates.) I suspect that I am the poster who made comment about your use of Outlook (I certainly made comment on *someone's* use of outlook in that thread, so it was probably you). The comment was not supposed to embarrass or attack you, it was a comment on a specific feature missing in Outlook. My argument boiled down to 'you can't do that because your mailer is broken, not because the list is configured wrong.' How am I supposed to make such an argument without commenting on which mailer you use? Despite this, I have stayed on to read, and for each arrogant, petty and bullying user of this list (perhaps tolerated because of some small sliver of actual knowledge), there are many more kind, courteous and patient experts (revered not only for great knowledge but also for just being Good People) more than happy to pass on some of the enormous and intricate wisdom of the field. To those especially who consistently use 'argumentum ad technium' to bolster ego and effect an elitist posture, I say , ha! You just don't get it! This is a forum that admires reason and correctness, the ultimate antithesis of the logical fallacy you employ with such sophomoric glee. I don't think I use such arguments frequently, and in the instance you have quoted I think it is unfair to accuse me of it. I agree with you that such 'logic' is pretty pointless, but please actually understand an argument before you label it 'argumentum ad technium'. Good day, Josh Rehman, Linux Guru Wannabe (LGW) P.S. If any Latin speakers out there could help me come up with a better name for argument from technological elitism that would be great. I know but one jot of Latin, so can't help, sorry. An FM can be found here: http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latgramm.htm but I suspect this will not tell you more than you know already. I can't find a babelfish that supports Latin... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Classifications of inanimate objects: Those that don't work, those that break down, and those that get lost. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01550/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I Can t Unsubscribe
On 0, Mark L. Kahnt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 13:44, Ezequiel Franca Santos/SAO/Geo wrote: Hi Guys !! I ´m trying to unsubscribe since 1 week ago, but i´m not succeed in doing. Why ??? i send the messages to the unsubscribe, but don´t worked ... i try a few times, but i the messages still come in !!1 sorry for my poor english ! Ezequiel Debian User São Paulo - Brazil Are you sending your unsubscribe emails to the list posting address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), or to the list control address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? As indicated in the automatic trailer of list posts, you need to use the control address to unsubscribe. Also, are you subscribed to the digest list? If so then the unsubscribe instructions are a bit unhelpful - you need to unsubscribe at [EMAIL PROTECTED], IIRC. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Other people's priorities are endlessly odd. - Kingsley Amis Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01551/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Installing new kernel
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 02:31, David Pastern wrote: Mark, I think I just typed make to be honest. That's my own idiocy there, I should have known that it was make config (or make xconfig in X). It still seemed to work though. Could I have accidently broken something and it's not appearing in any manifestations yet? I did get options for video/sound/network. make-kpkg is not recognised on my Debian system. I'm not sure why. I've reinstalled Debian 4 times in the past near week and a half (because on some stuff i'd cocked up, and I couldn't find any reference on how to fix my cock-ups) and make-kpkg has previously worked. I'm at a loss as to why it's not working now. Okay, if you got options for various features, it sounds like Makefile *evolves* depending on what else has been done to that point - can anyone else confirm that? Make-kpkg is a separate package to be, umm, apt-gotten, but once you have it, it is great at consolidating and managing the main work of building the kernel. At what exact point of the process of compiling the new kernel would I do the make-kpkg. After everything else i've done? Or somewhere in between? I'd suspect between the make clean make dep and the make bzImage. That makes sense to my logic. Do the make clean make dep, and then the rest of the make tasks get handled by make-kpkg, and the actual copies of the appropriate files into the appropriate locations are handled by dpkg -i kernel-whatever-version. This also allows you, down the road, to say apt-get remove kernel-whatever-oldversion when you no longer need/want the old one around. But - woohoo! I've finally got X, networking and mount cdrom problem licked. So i'm rather tickled. Oh and apt-get is awesome. That has to be my fave thing about Debian so far. I can't stop raving about it. Anyways ta for advice, much appreciated. X11 is not always immediately obvious - for me, it sent me scrambling back to my memories of tweaking MS Windows 3.1 and earlier, and in those days, configuration was done with a text program running on the console. That said, I've never been able to get XDMCP working without it hanging gdm - that is the ability to start up X11 on and actually be running all of the programs on another machine. It may be that there is the old saying that the language best known by computer programmers is Profanity, but once you have the activities understood and configured, the control and the knowledge of what is happening gives the System Administrator much more power over the machine and its performance - much better than Microsoft's latest update so that they can take over your machine whenever they find it convenient to disable non-MS software. Dave -Original Message- From: Mark L. Kahnt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 4:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Subject: RE: Installing new kernel On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 02:01, David Pastern wrote: Bob, Excuse my ignorance, When I recently upgraded my kernel, I was told by a friend to do: apt-get install kernel-source-version (in my instance kernel-source-2.4.18). What is the difference between apt getting the kernel-image versus kernel-source? I noticed that the kernel-source d/l to /usr/src. Then I untarred it and went into the newly created dir and ran make. I then compiled the kernel and modules. After doing that I ran make dep make clean. Then I did make bzImage. I then did make modules and then make modules_install. Once that was all done I did depmod -a. I'm hoping that first make is something like make config, make menuconfig or make xconfig, so that you can adjust the kernel to the needs of your system, such as specific graphic, network or sound cards. Otherwise, everything you've done sounds like it is right out of the kernel source README, and what works fine for many people nearly every time. That said, using kernel-image-version allows people to draw upon pre-built kernels with modules for all manner of equipment - many modules that individual machines likely *don't* need. It works for most situations as well, but there is the chaff and it may not be the *most* efficient configuration for your machine. What is recommended with Debian, however, is to use make-kpkg after you do the configuring and make dep - it handles much of the individual aspects of preparing a kernel, including specific kernel source, headers and documentation for your configuration if you specify it, and creates .debs that you can install and remove with dpkg, which should make your future kernel management more efficient, and fit in with the overall Debian software management system. Once done I copied the System.map and bzImage files to the /boot dir and then renamed them with appropriate names. I then had to manually update lilo.conf and then restart lilo. Reboot and hey presto! Is the way i've done
RE: I Can t Unsubscribe
I have exactly the same problem. I try to unsubsribe since few days now, without success. I have tried four or five times, using the control mailing list. Each time I receive an ack, but there is no effect. kind regards, eric -Original Message- From: Tom Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:39 AM To: Debian User List Subject: Re: I Can t Unsubscribe On 0, Mark L. Kahnt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 13:44, Ezequiel Franca Santos/SAO/Geo wrote: Hi Guys !! I ´m trying to unsubscribe since 1 week ago, but i´m not succeed in doing. Why ??? i send the messages to the unsubscribe, but don´t worked ... i try a few times, but i the messages still come in !!1 sorry for my poor english ! Ezequiel Debian User São Paulo - Brazil Are you sending your unsubscribe emails to the list posting address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), or to the list control address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? As indicated in the automatic trailer of list posts, you need to use the control address to unsubscribe. Also, are you subscribed to the digest list? If so then the unsubscribe instructions are a bit unhelpful - you need to unsubscribe at [EMAIL PROTECTED], IIRC. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Other people's priorities are endlessly odd. - Kingsley Amis Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachment thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by other persons than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. For further information about Proximus mobile phone services please see our website at http://www.proximus.be or refer to any Proximus agent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing problems....help???
I agree the list is active - subscribed to the normal 'user' list I get hundreds of messages a day. However, the digest version sends me nothing. I got the confirmation email saying I was subscribed, and resubscribing has no effect. Matt On 09/09/2002 08:02 PM, David Teague wrote: Matthew, This list is indeed active. I get from 25 to 100 messages a day. When you subscribed did you get a confirmation message? If you don't get such a message, or for some reason you don't send the confirmation back they kill your subscription. Are you using a spam filter or anything that might kill mailing list messages? David Teague -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: quickcam
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 02:45, jfcarvajal wrote: Hi! I've have installed a logitech quickcam express on my Debian Woody box. It seems to work for a while, what is more if i use xawtv it works a little longer than unsing gqcam before it hangs. Can any one give me a hint on what is going on, here the xawtv output. This is xawtv-3.72, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.18) Xlib: extension XVideo missing on display :0.0. /dev/video0 [v4l]: no overlay support v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway config: invalid value for input: Television valid choices for input: Camera v4l: timeout (got SIGALRM), hardware/driver problems? ioctl: VIDIOCSYNC(1): Interrupted system call v4l: timeout (got SIGALRM), hardware/driver problems? ioctl: VIDIOCSYNC(0): Interrupted system call Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you define for a while and a little longer? Are these 1 hour, 10 minutes, 5 seconds at maybe four frames a second? My STV680 based camera does the latter - it takes 20 images for the 20 image slots, and then crashes itself and my usb subsystem, which at present stays down until I reboot (taking my second printer with it as it is also usb.) If you are getting vastly more images, it is a different problem. -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
On Monday 09 September 2002 10:42 pm, Barney Wrightson wrote: David Pastern wrote: Snip 10. Remember that english is not everyones main tongue. Writing skills are always weaker for a person from a NESB (non english speaking background). Best wishes, Dave W Pastern On the contrary, I tend to find that the worst English comes from people who claim it as their first language. Normally if a post contains the words please excuse my english I am pretty confident of being able to understand it perfectly :) Barney. i doubt that the op's problem had to do with a dearth of language skills. to judge by the quality of his post, i would have to conclude that he was less interested in admitting to a need of help than he was at blaming his frustration on anyone but himself. my first reaction was to think that his attitude proved why some people can't be cured of their affliction. on reflection, i simply appreciate his self-immolation. when you barge into a party, demanding a beer, you can't really be surprised when nobody feels inclined to point you in the direction of the keg, or by their relief when you leave. beligerence begets resentment. it's a sandbox lesson for most of us; then again, some seem deliberately inclined not to learn, at all. this is the best support list i've ever experienced. i've got a running system that satisfies near all of my needs--except watching all of my dvd's, but even that isn't a fault in debian--that cost me five bucks for progeny disks a long while back. somebody once said that debian is not the place to start but it is where you will end up, or words to that effect. it's known for that. anyone who takes it on expecting it to be any other way just isn't paying attention. ending up here is a consequence of realizing that everything else sucks. it's like the reverse of hitting bottom, yet still finding that the only way to go is up. the first time i read this list, i was still trying to get the best out of suse, having done slack, rh, and fooled around with freebsd, even toying with mandrake for the week it took to get full-on bored, i knew that this was the place to be. i pounded on with suse for about another month, and then gave it up in submission to the one true path. i get so much out of debian, and, still, i know that i'm not yet getting anywhere near as much as it has to offer. on the one hand, i feel sorry for mr. dumbass--what was his name? the beer is free, but he wasn't happy with that. on the other hand, i think, hey, maybe he'll find a cure and make it back here before he loses too much time being the way he is, now. the great thing about this list is that we can simultaneously wish the other os lusers the best on their way and still welcome them back, should they ever show up again. the good thing about mr. d's outburst is that it gives me the opportunity to muse on how great debian is, and on how much i appreciate the work of the developers and maintainers, and all the help i've had from the list. as much as i try no to, i can't help but pity the fool who misses the point of what we have here. elitist? what a load. this is the most democratic place i know. the world should be like this. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3D Acceleration in X not with framebuffer possible?
I tried to boot up with the framebuffer and enabling the direct rendering features for my ATI after recompiling the kernel. If i compile the framebuffer thing into the kernel, boot up with the vga=XXX mode, the framebuffer works great. But my system can't find any agp bridge :( If i don't compile framebuffer into the kernel, i don't have the framebuffer device available, but the system find my agp bridge. What is wrong? Is there a possibility to startup with the framebuffer and always enable the direct rendering?? Allright, i know that the boot-logo thing is a kind of playing around. But looks nice with my logo *G Forgive me... Thanks for the ideas, Roman -- www: http://www.romanofski.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: quickcam
Can you define for a while and a little longer? Are these 1 hour, 10 minutes, 5 seconds at maybe four frames a second? for a while : aprox 15 seconds a little longer: aprox 45 seconds Yes, about four frames per second Besides the quickcam I have a USB epson scanner that works properly. ... Though I haven't tested it while the gqcam program is hanged. I'll try that this afternoon. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing new kernel
Bob == Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2) will it add one more item inthe lilo for the new kernel and so that In can select the older kernel at boot time, in case I want? Bob IIRC (I use grub), the older kernel gets labelled something like Bob OldLinux, while the new one will be Linux. Grub will show many more Bob possibilities if the kernels exist. Well, firstly, kernel-image packages don't use debconf yet, since I havent spent the time to grok debconf. Secondly, the image package _never_ modifies a lilo.conf file -- alll it does is maipulate symbolic links (nominally /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old). If you mention those links in lilo.conf, the entry pointing to /vmlinuz shall always refer to the last installed kernel image. 4) do I have to install any other package apart from kernel-image-2.4.19-686? like kernel-header, etc? Bob No (some self-compiled programs get the headers from kernel-headers or Bob kernel-source, however). Well, initrd-tools may be important for kernel images that use initrd. manoj -- It is no disgrace not to be able to do everything; but to undertake, or pretend to do, what you are not made for, is not only shameful, but extremely troublesome. -- Plutarch Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: quickcam
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 04:10, jfcarvajal wrote: Can you define for a while and a little longer? Are these 1 hour, 10 minutes, 5 seconds at maybe four frames a second? for a while : aprox 15 seconds a little longer: aprox 45 seconds Yes, about four frames per second Besides the quickcam I have a USB epson scanner that works properly. ... Though I haven't tested it while the gqcam program is hanged. I'll try that this afternoon. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay, remind me - can that model be used as a roving digital camera, with the images then downloaded into a computer when it is reconnected? If so, it sounds like it is taking individual images, putting them each in a separate slot in the camera's memory, and when it runs out of that memory, it can no longer answer the grabbing function of xawtv or gqcam. It *shouldn't* really be running that way when functioning as a video camera, but I haven't seen anything to switch either of them to snap image, transfer image, clear image with my camera, and I suspect that it is presently the same thing with yours :( -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing new kernel
Mark == Mark L Kahnt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark What is recommended with Debian, however, is to use make-kpkg after you Mark do the configuring and make dep - That was an excellent post, but as a very very minor point -- make-kpkg runs make dep for you, so you don't have to ;-) manoj -- Digital computers are themselves more complex than most things people build: They have very large numbers of states. This makes conceiving, describing, and testing them hard. Software systems have orders-of-magnitude more states than computers do. Fred Brooks, Jr. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: storing laptop (Li-ion) batteries
On Monday 09 September 2002 07:03 pm, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 08:05:57PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: | also sprach Joe Hendrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.09.09.2003 +0200]: | Seal them in bags so they stay dry and store them in the freezer. They | should stay charged quite a bit longer. | | Anyone ever done this? No, but it sounds reasonable. Batteries create electricity as a result of a chemical reaction. Chemical reactions are slower when the environment is cold, thus putting the batt. in a freezer will slow down the reaction. Effectively you are looking for a pause button on the reaction until you are ready to use the battery, and slowing the reaction with a cold environment is the closest you'll be able to come. HTH, -D i've had a store of [originally 24] lithium 3 volt desktop batteries in the freezer for about two years. the most recent one i pulled one from that stock was about three months ago, to replace a dead one in a friend's box, and it appears to be as fresh as the first one i put in one of my own machines back when i got them. so, although i'm not talking about laptop batteries, in my experience, the theory holds. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: typo error
On Tuesday, 2002-09-10 at 10:13:59 AM (+0200), Jan-Hendrik Palic wrote: we are now using the official unofficial debian-packages [1]from Torsten Werner, libstlport Maintainer, to build OpenOffice.org. There were some changes to our highly unofficial debian-packages of libstlport. The problem is now, that Chris Halls builded OpenOffice.org againts Torsten's libstlport packages, but they are older for apt-get, so apt-get will not automaticly install the newer libstlport. We used different versioning for our unofficial libstlport packages to Torsten's official unofficial packages. To solve that, please grap Torsten's libstlport packages from: http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice/pool/main/stlport/ and then reinstall OpenOffice.org. Then the problem, that libstlport_gcc_3.0.so.4.5 isn't found, should be solved! For having some extra fun I can tell you that Debian revision -3 of stlport never got installed into the ftp archive. I have uploaded a new version -4 that does not support g++-3.2 (aka openoffice) any more. The g++-3.2 transition is planned when a policy for the transition is published. Since I will have vacation until 2-Oct-2002 I am not sure if I can build some experimental packages that support g++-3.2. All my stuff is available at deb http://twerner.debian.net/ stlport/ deb-src http://twerner.debian.net/ stlport/ Torsten -- Torsten Werner Dresden University of Technology mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]telephone: +49 (351) 463 36711 http://www.twerner42.de/ telefax: +49 (351) 463 36809 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pop server
Sean wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm currently running courier-imap-ssl and courier-pop-ssl for IMAP and POP3 on a smallish server I have sitting out there in the great beyond, and have had good luck so far. Sean courier... That only supports Maildir (qmail) format. Do you know of any that work with the mail-file formats? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: typo error
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 10:13:59AM +0200, Jan-Hendrik Palic wrote: To solve that, please grap Torsten's libstlport packages from: http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice/pool/main/stlport/ and then reinstall OpenOffice.org. Well, alternatively just downgrade libstlport in place; that way you do not need to reinstall the openoffice packages. I've uploaded a new openoffice.org package which conflicts with the problem version of libstlport, to make this more obvious. Chris msg01575/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mtent warning - newbie
I got 3 rows of the flwg msg during booting: [mtent] warning: no final new line at the end of etc/fstab This should fix it: echo /etc/fstab Make sure there are two s. the flwg is my /etc/fstab file Please spell words out in full. # /etc/fstab: static file system information. /dev/hda6 / ext2errors=remount-ro 0 Are you sure you are copying all of it? Most of the lines are missing the last field. -- Tom Goulet mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UID0 Unix Consultingweb: em.ca/uid0/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Soliciting Assistance
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Re: mtent warning - newbie
This one time, at band camp, Setyo Nugroho said: I got 3 rows of the flwg msg during booting: [mtent] warning: no final new line at the end of etc/fstab The same msg, when I mount /windows the flwg is my /etc/fstab file # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump /dev/hda1 /windowsvfatrw,user,noauto 0 /dev/hda6 / ext2errors=remount-ro 0 /dev/hda3 noneswapsw 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 /dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0 /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 /dev/hdd/dvdiso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda5 /boot ext2defaults0 /dev/hda7 /home ext2defaults0 /dev/hda8 /varext2defaults0 usbdevfs/proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 What does it mean? FYI: I still couldn't get my printer working well. Setyo A newline is also known as a carriage return, enter, etc. fstab wants you to put one at the end of the last line, so it knows the line terminates. Just curious - is the above cut slightly off, or do you really have only one number at the end of most columns? There should be two, like with /dev/hdd. Steve -- Q: What do you call a blind, deaf-mute, quadraplegic Virginian? A: Trustworthy. msg01588/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:43:06 -0400 Edward Guldemond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recently bought (yes paid money) for Suse 8 pro. I decided to trial it on my laptop, Compaq Armada 1750. Eventually, I got it to work and install. After contacting Suse support that is. Installation manual had nothing on my problem that I encountered. Google search didn't find anything (hey i'm not going to search thru 25k of pages hoping to find something). Search of Suse' dbase didn't find an answer. So I relied on support. Their reply was cryptic to say the least. No mention of how to do it, just do this. That's pathetic. And i'm paying for support! Once I finally got Suse installed sound was fux0red. Odd. Anyways I did check the Suse dbase and found what I thought was my answer - setup settings for my very laptop for Suse 8 pro. I copied the settings for the soundcard to the T. Wouldn't work. So I emailed Suse ( by this time i'm rather pissed off with it all) and I get told sorry we don't support soundcards in basic support). Gee - get this guys - in any other business they'd go bust. Big time. That is PATHETIC support. To a T. And the funny thing? I've had redhat 7, 7.1 and 7.2 on that very said laptop without a single installation issue. And i've had sound working on it on all occasions. Funny that Suse couldn't manage it. Okay, why are you flaming SuSe on a Debian mailing list? Because they told you to RTFM, and you couldn't because you were too busy telling them that they sucked? Maybe you should have installed RedHat, copied down the settings for the sound card, and replicated them under SuSe. Wait, did I just give useful help I can see somebody being pi**ed at Suse by paying for it and expecting support for it. Those guys don't even tell you to RTFM but go right ahead and try to sell you service you already paid for because almost nothing but help on how to find the power-on switch is included there. The fineprint was probably written by some guy the hired from M$. What that got to do with Debian and the best mailinglist in Linux? -No idea. Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
well since you want to be rude and immature i'll respond in likewise - go fuck yourself. It's people like you that piss newbies off and turn them away from linux and open source. You have major attitude. Most probably a 14 year old looking at your choice of l33t etc as words. For that matter I wasn't knocking the debian system, I was having a go at a few users who were plain downright rude. And at the general elitism that i've personally found from a large % of linux users elsewhere (and that appeared to initially be the case on the debian lists here). Thankfully most of the people who have voiced their opinion on this subject have not been rude like yourself. In fact several have agreed with my voiced opinion. There's an old saying son and it's they can't all be wrong. Oh and I don't being implied as being a moron either mate. Oh and if you'd bothered to read and comprehend my original post - with the Suse issue it was purely an example of the poor linux support (and I had paid for support by purchasing their product). Every single person that I personally know who works in the IT industry (10+) have been disgusted with the lack of support by Suse. My reference to them was an example. You'd also realised that I had in fact down research with my Suse problem (and I typically do this as it is the only way to learn). So please don't make assumptions about 1. my intelligence 2. my efforts that I do make before resorting to asking for help. Oh and if i want to quote the lyrics from a song, then that's my goddamn right. If you don't like it tough. Dave -Original Message- From: Edward Guldemond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 10:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Subject: Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-) Sorry, couldn't stay out of this flame war, and yes, I do have my asbestos armor on. On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 11:47:38AM +1000, David Pastern wrote: You guys are goddamn rude. If this is linux helpfulness at it's best god help linux and open source. To quote three dead trolls in a baggie' every os sucks.mp3: Rudeness begets rudeness. If the person had brought constructive criticism instead of flames, this never would have happened. Apparently, he thinks he's a l33t d00d instead of stopping and thinking that maybe this question has been asked before and that maybe someone was working on it. Instead he goes and attacks the structure of the Debian system. If he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to use it. That's the beauty of open source. Plus, show me one major vendor that offers all of it's technical support through Usenet. The Usenet groups that exist for Linux are supposed to be distribution agnostic, and he could always take his problem there. If someone has to quote an MP3 instead of making constructive arguments, then he needs to learn how to argue effectively. Please note the phrase elitist nerdy schmucks. I've fucked around with Debian linux now for nearly a week, spending countless hours trying to get it to work and it's still rooted. MAN pages are pathetic. They're great if you're a really experienced user. If not, they are just downright plain confusing, quite often not even touching on the subject that you want to know about. Man pages are documentation. If someone tells you to RTFM, and you tell them to STFU, then you're only exacerbating the problem. RTFM, and if you have questions about that, then ask them about the manual. The moment that you attack the source of your help, or the moment that you become lame (such as asking if you can ask a question), then you're going to be treated like you're lame. Linux is not for morons. Windows is not for morons, but there are more morons using Windows than any other operating system because it's 'perty'. Go visit a few IRC channels for help and you get rudely treated (i've tried 4 different IRC servers thanks and quite politely, i've had enough). The RTFM attitude that most experienced linux users pervay is pathetic. And counter productive to open source' image. The thing is this attitude goes way to the top of linux developers, so it's not going to change. You have to remember that all of us were newbies at some time. I'll be that 95% of us have been told to RTFM. The manual is there for a reason. Coders have better things to do than listen to someone who hasn't been considerate enough to read the manual or check a mailing list archive before sending 15 email messages to him telling him that the software doesn't work. (Oh, and about 5 asking why he hasn't responded yet because this software is 'important'.) RTFM is not a bad thing, and it should be required. How would you like it if your heart surgeon hadn't RTFM; would you trust him then? In my opinion, open source will never die, it will just clean itself, like the ocean before it, of any people that can't understand that documentation is more than a
gcc 3.2 on woody
Hello, does someone know where to find gcc 3.2 packages compiled for woody? Bye, Enrico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
Klaus, My inclusion of the Suse anecdote was purely an example of what I considered poor service from Suse. I've had very good service from Redhat in the past truth be told. That sort of adds to my disappointment with Suse even more I guess. I know debian is open source and is a non profit distribution. After playing with it for a week and a half (and learning a reasonable amount in that time frame) i've managed to get it working. And i'm happy. I don't have a problem with Debian mailing lists/help. I do have a problem with people like those that I replied to in my original post and their attitudes to linux newbies. I will 100% stand by my original words on elitism being present in linux and its users. I know not everyone one of you guys is like this. The vast majority are nice, helpful and patient from what I have seen on the posts so far, despite seeing the same questions being asked time and time again. I maintain that RTFM is not a suitable response. Tchau, Dave -Original Message- From: klaus imgrund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 8:39 PM To: Edward Guldemond; David Pastern Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-) On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:43:06 -0400 Edward Guldemond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recently bought (yes paid money) for Suse 8 pro. I decided to trial it on my laptop, Compaq Armada 1750. Eventually, I got it to work and install. After contacting Suse support that is. Installation manual had nothing on my problem that I encountered. Google search didn't find anything (hey i'm not going to search thru 25k of pages hoping to find something). Search of Suse' dbase didn't find an answer. So I relied on support. Their reply was cryptic to say the least. No mention of how to do it, just do this. That's pathetic. And i'm paying for support! Once I finally got Suse installed sound was fux0red. Odd. Anyways I did check the Suse dbase and found what I thought was my answer - setup settings for my very laptop for Suse 8 pro. I copied the settings for the soundcard to the T. Wouldn't work. So I emailed Suse ( by this time i'm rather pissed off with it all) and I get told sorry we don't support soundcards in basic support). Gee - get this guys - in any other business they'd go bust. Big time. That is PATHETIC support. To a T. And the funny thing? I've had redhat 7, 7.1 and 7.2 on that very said laptop without a single installation issue. And i've had sound working on it on all occasions. Funny that Suse couldn't manage it. Okay, why are you flaming SuSe on a Debian mailing list? Because they told you to RTFM, and you couldn't because you were too busy telling them that they sucked? Maybe you should have installed RedHat, copied down the settings for the sound card, and replicated them under SuSe. Wait, did I just give useful help I can see somebody being pi**ed at Suse by paying for it and expecting support for it. Those guys don't even tell you to RTFM but go right ahead and try to sell you service you already paid for because almost nothing but help on how to find the power-on switch is included there. The fineprint was probably written by some guy the hired from M$. What that got to do with Debian and the best mailinglist in Linux? -No idea. Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What program to record from /dev/dsp
Hi, Burkhard Ritter wrote: hallo. you perhabs want to try out ecasound (www.eca.cx). in newer dev versions it supports large files. you might have to compile it yourself as this feature is configured at compile time. ecasound is able to record and convert to wave in one step (you won't need sox), it can even record 'directly' to mp3 (with an external program). I've compiled ecasound-2.1dev11, but it still exited after 2G. Darn. Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/ msg01597/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mice can not work in a new kernel 2.4.19
Hi, I have installed a Debian Woody to my new system, the kernel default is 2.2.x. Since this kernel does not support Geforce 4. I need to have the latest kernel. So I downloaded the latest kernel from debian, it is 2.4.19. After I have configure the kernel according to my system, I compiled it and install it. Reboot and I am in. After compilation, I installed the Nvidia driver, and change the XFree86 config accordingly. Try to run 'startx', everything runs normal. I am now running IceWM, but my mouse has no reaction. So I thought maybe I have setup wrongly, I went back to the console and try every single possibility for the mouse section. By the way my mouse is Logitech Wheel Mouse Optical plug to the PS2 port. This mice can be plug to the USB port, but to make things simpler I dont do that. The strange thing is that, when I load kernel 2.2 ,the gpm can detect my mouse and I can use my mouse in the console. But when I load kernel 2.4 , the gpm can not detect my mice so does X. Since I cant use kernel 2.2 to load my X, I cant tell you whether the mice will work in X environment. Is it because I miss something when I compile the new kernel? Which modules should I load for this mice? thank you willy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [STOP THIS] Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear.;-)
Amen. Good points Matthias. Dave -Original Message- From: Matthias Szupryczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:22 AM To: Debian User; David Pastern Subject: [STOP THIS] Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear.;-) He list, just a small one, because I think this flamewar is 1. getting out of hand and 2. wasting our time. Yes, probably it is tough for most newbies when they are told 'RTFM', but being sort of a newbie myself I do not see a problem with that ... it is one of the best advices somebody can give me, because being told that I most often realize that the problem can be solved easily just by reading more of the documentation. Yes, the manpages and most other documents out there are a little bit hard to understand if you are new to the subject in question, but without learning by doing you won't get anywhere. So keep on trying, RTFM again and again, and you'll succeed. Maybe that will take a while, but hey, nobody said it would be easy in the first place. Just a thought, but let us please just stop this flamewar and get back to business. We are suppose to help each other, not to fight useless wars. Thanks to all of you guys out there who are helping beginners like me. Cheers Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: Login to home from work]
That leads me to this thought: if you really want access to a GUI desktop on your home machine, and/or don't want to carry an Putty floppy with you... What about installing (Tight)VNC on your Linux machine, and use its HTTP/Java capabilities to get to your machine from any Internet-connected machine that has a Java-capable browser? The beauty of that is that that web page Kenneth proposes could then have an actual *link* to your X desktop! That is perhaps not too secure, but you could always run apache-ssl, or apache + mod_ssl, with authentication, and use mod_proxy to forward requests to Xvnc. Mind you, personally I'd rather just use Putty/SSH when possible, and I use DynDNS for the addressing. I would think the above would be substantially slower - but it could help you out in a pinch. Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen wrote: Subject: Re: Login to home from work From: Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09 Sep 2002 19:39:17 +0200 To: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If your isp has possibilities for a homepage you can make cron.hourly and put a script there. Example of script is: ken@pingu:~$ cat ip.script #!/bin/bash wget www.showmyip.com -O /var/tmp/ip grep nextgen /var/tmp/ip | cat /var/tmp/test.html ncftpput -u kennkarl -p xxxwhatever home.broadpark.no / /var/tmp/test.html ken@pingu:~$ -- results : http://home.broadpark.no/~kennkarl/test.html Im never more than a hour away from home Kenneth On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 15:43, Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 09:14:26PM -0600, Phil Reardon wrote: What needs to be set up in order to login to my home box from work? At home there is a cable modem, then a router, then two linux boxes, with mine running debian (sid). I have a 192.168.2.xx ip address. You'll need some way of identifying your home machine remotely. I use dyndns.org's service to get DNS. You'll also need to install ssh if you intend on logging in remotely. - -- Baloo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9fKWXNtWkM9Ny9xURAlzWAJ9YR2ik2W756SC+FTq8zjcrcxEDUQCgoqVo 50GF8zHLeqSnlgnuliwvVC8= =CtGO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Controlling the list?
Greetings; How do I get a list of commands for this list server? What I am looking for is how to start/stop digest mode, sending me a copy of my own posts, holding (stopping) the posts while on vacation, things like that. No matter what I try I get a message back on how to retrieve things from the archive! TIA, Dennis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: module parport_pc unloadable
Sorry of my german subject! On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 the mental interface of Elimar Riesebieter told: Hi, I am running a selfmade 2.4.19. The printer devive isn't available: lsmod [...] lp 5920 0 (autoclean) parport22784 0 (autoclean) [lp] [...] When I am loading the selfmade 2.4.18 on the same machine my printer works perfect: lsmod [...] parport_pc 21864 1 (autoclean) lp 5920 1 (autoclean) parport22784 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] [...] In both kernels par support is compiled as a module. /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/drivers/parport/parport_pc.o is available. modprobe parport_pc /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/drivers/parport/parport_pc.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, ^^^? including invalid IO or IRQ parameters ^^ ? /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/drivers/parport/parport_pc.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/drivers/parport/parport_pc.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/drivers/parport/parport_pc.o: insmod parport_pc failed Any Hints? Thanks Ciao Elimar -- You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back. -- Do you smell something burning or ist it me? msg01618/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mice can not work in a new kernel 2.4.19
Willy Sutrisno said: Hi, I have installed a Debian Woody to my new system, the kernel default is 2.2.x. Since this kernel does not support Geforce 4. I need to have the latest kernel. So I downloaded the latest kernel from debian, it is 2.4.19. After I have configure the kernel according to my system, I compiled it and install it. Reboot and I am in. Maybe it is Geforce4 specific, but I imagine 2.2.x would work fine with the Geforce4, at least it works fine with my Geforce2 and Geforce3, Geforce4 uses the same drivers ...(the drivers on nvidia.com) http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=linux_display_1.0-2960 Where do you see that Geforce4 is not supportd by 2.2.x ?? Of course they may not offer precompiled 2.2.x kernel modules, but it should be supported ..and it is quite stable.. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
- Why on earth (to stay local) doesn't Debian move the lists to a - newsserver instead That way it's much easier to follow threads and - only download the messages that is of interest. And if Debian does not - connect to other newsservers, they will not get obnoxious groups as - alt.sex or comp.microsoft.. - There is a newsgroup where this mailinglist is mirrored - check the - archives (or someone else might mention it) I plan to try litttle news server for (possibly) all newsgroups, just for myself for now but maybe I'll make it public (well, i need agreement from list admins probably). -- Matus fantomas Uhlar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I don't wish to receive spam to this address. Varovanie: Nezelam si na tuto adresu dostavat akukolvek reklamnu postu. Linux is like a wigwam: no Windows, no Gates and an apache inside... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dhcp/windoze question
Hey, I'm setting up a linux box for my friend (dual-booting actually), but i'm going to have to set up the network setting and i was looking for some advice first (because i can't change how the networking is done on his entire network). First, his IP address is 'Obtained Automatically', does this mean i want to use DHCP? Or does Windows have some proprietary method of automatically obtaining IP addresses? If it is DHCP, i shouldn't need to know the default gw or nameservers right? That would be a big relief too me... Thanks, Cameron Matheson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
helo
I have a problem with my lq100 I`m using windows 2000and i have problems printing the self test printes ok but when I try to print enything in windows it apears with a space the letters are broken with a white space between please help Stefan
RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
[snip]I reviewed Kai Olsen in the archives of this list's postings, and he had not asked any questions on the list since the start of August (where my search started.) Not stalking him - just wondering if we had failed to answer a question of his. His complaint, however, was that Usenet would be a better medium than a mailing list for this. I would suggest that among the vast majority of computer users, both mailing lists and Usenet are something of an unknown, and the same would apply to IRC - if it isn't the web or usual person-to-person email, it is a Wuzzat? type of black cyber-magic.[snip] I have to take a little exception to this one Mark. I have posted at least two different questions to this list with 0 responses. Now, they were somewhat developer related but I did not recieve so much as please post to debian- developer etc. Of course when every module has to be compiled or the standard answer is recompile the kernel then there is a fine line between developer and user. Barry deFreese NTS Technology Services Manager Nike Team Sports (949)-616-4005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology doesn't make you less stupid; it just makes you stupid faster. Jerry Gregoire - Former CIO at Dell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dhcp/windoze question
Cameron Matheson said: First, his IP address is 'Obtained Automatically', does this mean i want to use DHCP? Or does Windows have some proprietary method of automatically obtaining IP addresses? that means DHCP.. If it is DHCP, i shouldn't need to know the default gw or nameservers right? That would be a big relief too me... yeah. if this is a normal ethernet network you should have no problems. HOWEVER, if the DHCP server is a win32 box you may quite likely have DNS problems, as at least NT4 seems to add a line feed character or something at the end of the nameservers it reports, so check /etc/resolv.conf if your on such a network, you can modify the DHCP scripts to ignore resolv.conf and you can configure it manually if this is the case. if this is not a normal ethernet network(e.g. this is a computer with DSL over PPPoE or soemthing) then additional configuration may be required. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sources for old Distributions
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 06:07:44PM +0200, Manfred Gahr wrote: Does anobody know where I can get the sources for Debian 2.1 or 2.0? Yes, all old Debian releases are stored at http://archive.debian.org/. For 1.1 and 1.2, only the source code is kept; for the rest, both sources and binaries are still available. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sources for old Distributions
Manfred Gahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anobody know where I can get the sources for Debian 2.1 or 2.0? archive.debian.org -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: helo
Stefan said: I have a problem with my lq100 I`m using windows 2000 and i have problems printing the self test printes ok but when I try to print enything in windows it apears with a space the letters are broken with a white space between please help Stefan your post doesn't appear to have anything to do with linux or debian in particular, if it does, then re-word it to include more information. if it does not related to linux you should contact the support group or company responsible for the device you are using. in this case I would reccomend contacting whoever makes the lq100 printer, unless it came with your computer in which case contact whoever you got the computer from. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compile 3c90x module prolem
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:57:28PM -0700, deFreese, Barry wrote: I am trying to compile the module for my 3c905B card. When I compile the object and try to run insmod 3c90x I get an error saying that the module was compiled for version 2.2.20 and the kernel is 2.2.19. I am using the -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19/include directive so I am lost as to where it is getting 2.2.20 from?? That version comes from whatever linux/version.h is while compiling the module. What does /usr/include/linux/version.h look like? I'm wondering if that was accidentally used instead of the one in the kernel source tree. You'll need to run 'make dep' in the kernel source tree in order for include/linux/version.h to be created there. A clean tree won't do. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: converting root fs to ext3, get rid of .journal
Andre Berger, 2002-Sep-09 20:02 -0400: * Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-09-09 15:31 -0400: Heya folks, I converted my filesystems to ext3 and now I want to get rid of the .journal file on the root fs. There's no .journal on the other fs since I converted it unmounted. I'm thinking I could boot to my installation CD, execute a shell and run the tune2fs -j on the device while unmounted, but I don't know if tune2fs is available that way, or if there are other issues. I've done some googling but haven't found anything other that a suggest to re-install the root fs from scratch using ext3. Does anyone have suggestions as to whether this will work, or other options to accomplish this task? thanks, jc My /.journal disappeared when I booted the paud boot disk (featuring gparted), and ran e2fsck -y -f on my unmounted ext3 partition -Andre Thanks to all who replied. I've got a few options to try. I'm in no hurry since it works fine as is. jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboards
Jeff Whitman, 2002-Sep-09 18:54 -0400: Hello, I'm looking for information on P4 motherboards and chipsets for Woody? Please share any success or failure information. Thanks, Jeff Hey Jeff, I've only have one P4 MB and it has the VIA chipset. I'm having trouble with the agpgart and the sound (via8233a) with woody and 2.4.19 kernel and ALSA, so I'd suggest avoiding it...Soyo P4VDA. jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
I wasn't necessarily complaining, just rebutting his remark. The main one I am concerned about at the moment was to see if anyone has set up an 8 port digiboard before. Thanks, Barry deFreese NTS Technology Services Manager Nike Team Sports (949)-616-4005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology doesn't make you less stupid; it just makes you stupid faster. Jerry Gregoire - Former CIO at Dell -Original Message- From: Colin Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-) On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 09:03:46AM -0700, deFreese, Barry wrote: I have to take a little exception to this one Mark. I have posted at least two different questions to this list with 0 responses. Now, they were somewhat developer related but I did not recieve so much as please post to debian- developer etc. This is unfortunate, but it's not really anything to do with the current thread. In any support situation, unless contracts are involved, it's inevitable that some will get missed. I'll have a look back and see if I know anything about the questions you asked. The second, though, was pretty hardware-specific, so if you're unlucky and none of the volunteers reading happen to own that hardware then there's not much that can be done. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Compile 3c90x module prolem
Colin, Thanks for the response. Actually I ended up using the 3c59x module and it seems to be working fine. I actually got that one to compile by modifying version.h with the correct release but couldn't get the module to work properly (Still struggling trying to understand the modules thing, which I think is part of my Digiboard problem). Yes I am a newbie and not too proud to admit it!! Thanks for the reponse!! Barry deFreese NTS Technology Services Manager Nike Team Sports (949)-616-4005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology doesn't make you less stupid; it just makes you stupid faster. Jerry Gregoire - Former CIO at Dell -Original Message- From: Colin Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:28 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Compile 3c90x module prolem On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:57:28PM -0700, deFreese, Barry wrote: I am trying to compile the module for my 3c905B card. When I compile the object and try to run insmod 3c90x I get an error saying that the module was compiled for version 2.2.20 and the kernel is 2.2.19. I am using the -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19/include directive so I am lost as to where it is getting 2.2.20 from?? That version comes from whatever linux/version.h is while compiling the module. What does /usr/include/linux/version.h look like? I'm wondering if that was accidentally used instead of the one in the kernel source tree. You'll need to run 'make dep' in the kernel source tree in order for include/linux/version.h to be created there. A clean tree won't do. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude and apt-get
Mike Kuhar, 2002-Sep-10 04:03 -0400: Hi everyone, I've got a strange one. As root, in aptitude, I'll do an update successfully. Then I do an upgrade, the files download, the progress bar will not show total progress, just progress per file, then reset to 0% for the next file. When the files complete downloading, I hit a carrige return to go to the installation phase, I get an error telling me that aptitude couldn't lock the cache, and will open it read only, and the upgrade stops. Using apt-get, I update successfully, I do upgrade, the files start downloading, again, instead of getting a total progress percentage at the begining of each line, I just get some bogus number. When downloading is complete, I get an error message telling me that every file I just watched download is missing, and maybe I should try again with --fix-missing. If I do something like 'apt-get --reinstall install apt', this works. If I use apt-get to install a new package, it installs the new package successfully along with any dependancies. I'm running unstable with the 2.4.19 kernel on three machines, and this strange behavior only affects one machine. Anyone one got any ideas as to the problem? After you reinstall apt, do you get this problem again at all? It seems like you had dpkg, dselect, apt or aptitude running somewhere else whily tried to do the update. By reinstalling, that would stop any other apt processess to reinstall, which would remove the lock. just a thought...jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install woody from netiso
hmm .. i'm not sure if it has something to do with the scsi host i tried scsihost=sym53c8xx and sym53c8xx=save:y but it doesnt work.. scsi_logging=1 shows nothing ... the initialization of the ne2k-pci is the last message i see ... flo - Original Message - From: Florian Scandella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: Re: install woody from netiso thanks for the answers is there a way to disable autoprobing of the scsi card on the lilo boot prompt ? I tried ncr53c8xx=save:y which was listed on the help screen of the bf2.4 boot image but that didn't help. flo On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:51:23 +0200 Florian Scandella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to install debian woody from an netinst iso. First i used the bf2.4 boot image which hangs somewhere after the init of the kernel (after detection of network card) . The only image that worked for me was the idepci image ( except that it doesn't detect my scsi controller an my usb mouse ). The scsi controller was probably the cause of the lock with the other kernel. Many of the boot kernels have various scsi drivers built into them, this can lead to a lock up if the wrong driver attempts to activate. After upgradeign to 2.2.20 kenel the system won't boot anymore (stops at md driver) . The 2.4.18 kernel starts, but it doesnt detect the network controller and throws some random error messages about interrupt 7 .. These messages probably look something like this: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. If so, you can ignore them. So, you've got everything working now (with a 2.4.18 kernel) except the NIC? NETWORK: Controller with Realtek RTL8029 chip The above card uses ne2k-pci module. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
Shri Shrikumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SS There is a newsgroup where this mailinglist is mirrored - check the SS archives (or someone else might mention it) news.gmane.org is a bi-directional news interface to tons of mailing lists, among them debian-user. I am using it right now ;) Regards, Morten -- To create man was a quaint and original idea, but to add the sheep was tautology. (Mark Twain) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install woody from netiso
could it be a problem with shared interrupts ? my bios sets the following irqs: sound : 12 usb: 11,12 network: 12 scsi: 12 ide 14,15 vga 5 flo - Original Message - From: Florian Scandella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:04 PM Subject: Re: install woody from netiso hmm .. i'm not sure if it has something to do with the scsi host i tried scsihost=sym53c8xx and sym53c8xx=save:y but it doesnt work.. scsi_logging=1 shows nothing ... the initialization of the ne2k-pci is the last message i see ... flo - Original Message - From: Florian Scandella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: Re: install woody from netiso thanks for the answers is there a way to disable autoprobing of the scsi card on the lilo boot prompt ? I tried ncr53c8xx=save:y which was listed on the help screen of the bf2.4 boot image but that didn't help. flo On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:51:23 +0200 Florian Scandella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to install debian woody from an netinst iso. First i used the bf2.4 boot image which hangs somewhere after the init of the kernel (after detection of network card) . The only image that worked for me was the idepci image ( except that it doesn't detect my scsi controller an my usb mouse ). The scsi controller was probably the cause of the lock with the other kernel. Many of the boot kernels have various scsi drivers built into them, this can lead to a lock up if the wrong driver attempts to activate. After upgradeign to 2.2.20 kenel the system won't boot anymore (stops at md driver) . The 2.4.18 kernel starts, but it doesnt detect the network controller and throws some random error messages about interrupt 7 .. These messages probably look something like this: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. If so, you can ignore them. So, you've got everything working now (with a 2.4.18 kernel) except the NIC? NETWORK: Controller with Realtek RTL8029 chip The above card uses ne2k-pci module. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with RADEON 8500 and ADI E55+ Monitor
On Tuesday 10 September 2002 17:50, Matt Miller wrote: If I remember correctly, you need Xfree86 4.2 for 8500 support. You can get the packages from the following list: http://raw.no/x4.2/ You should also have a look at http://dri.sourceforge.net for 8500 drivers. The daily radeon package tends to work very well. However, if problems persist, you could post /var/log/Xfree.0.log. It should be possible to run at least VESA modes on that card. -- Embedded Linux -- True multitasking! TWO TOASTS AT THE SAME TIME! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome2
Hello, Where can I find Debian gnome2 packages for sarge ? Thanks a lot. François msg01642/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to make kernel-modules-version.deb?
Claudio Bley wrote: On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 19:15, Eric Richardson wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Eric == Eric Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric I've been able to to use make-kpkg kernel-image to create a custom Eric kernel .deb file from a kernel source package. All the modules are Eric compiled and I tried make-kpkg modules-image but no deb file gets Eric created. How do I create the modules deb file? What moduls.deb file? Do you have stand alone modules packages installed? Which modules packages are these? The modules you designated that come with the kernel are part of the kernel imagfe deb itself. Hi Manoj, I guess I'm totally confused. When I upgraded to 2.4.18, I had to install the kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18 so I guess I'm thinking of this. So let me see if I got this correct. Installing the kernel-image I created will install the modules compiled in /lib/modules/version. This of course are not the modules I chose to compile into the kernel. Also, not sure why I get what seems to be an error when I do a make-kpkg modules_image. See end of message. What is that command suppose to do? How do I include the pcmcia modules or is this a seperate think I need to make a deb for? Install the pcmcia-source package. Then, go to /usr/src and 'tar xvzf pcmcia-cs.tar.gz'. Go into your kernel source directory and run 'make-kpkg -rev k6.1 modules_image'. Btw, this is not an error you've seen before, there's just nothing to do because you haven't unpacked any sources into the /usr/src/modules directory. I see now that I really didn't need the pcmcia modules as the new kernel uses yenta and normal net drivers which are included with the kernel source. Since I installed 2.4.18 version of the pcmcia utilites I really didn't need to compile the pcmcia package for the 2.4.7 timesys kernel. I did need to configure CONFIG_FILTER to get dhclient to work and make sure CONFIG_PCMCIA and CONFIG_CARDBUS where selected. Running dhclient-2.2.x eth0 gave me the clue as it said to make sure that CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are included in the kernel. dhclient normally calls dhclient-2.2.x with a -q option which suppresses the output. Now pcmcia networking works!! Just learning so I appreciate all the help. Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome2
On Tuesday 10 September 2002 20:25, Francois Chenais wrote: Hello, Where can I find Debian gnome2 packages for sarge ? Thanks a lot. François try : deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main tal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
David == David Pastern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Ok for those that have replied to my post - David 1. I'm relatively new to linux in general and totally new to David Debian I hope that we'll be able to convince you that this list is, on the whole, more helpful and more polite than what you may have seen in other Linux forums. Just remember that there we will always have jerks on this list, and that we are all volunteers, and our time and abilities are limited, so the amount of help that we can give out will be limited. [...] David 9. The sheer scope of inbound emails is enormous. It's hard to David keep up with them all, and I think that's what the gentleman David mentioned in point 2. was feeling. Had he stayed around for an answer, he probably would have gotten a proper one. In any event, if anyone doesn't want to receive so many emails a day, you can subscribe to the digest version of the list (although I doubt it would be much better, since you just replace a lot of smaller messages, with one huge message), or visit gmane.org, which is a bi-directional mail:news gateway for many mailing lists. It also allows you to request lists to be added, if they are not already provided, and provides an archive of old messages (only going back to when the list was originally added, of course). I personally use it for all the mailing lists that are more than a few (for some value of few) messages per day. David 10. Remember that english is not everyones main tongue. Writing David skills are always weaker for a person from a NESB (non english David speaking background). (The E in English is always capitalized, BTW.) -- Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.uhoreg.ca/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/124B61FA Fingerprint: 96C5 012F 5F74 A5F7 1FF7 5291 AF29 C719 124B 61FA Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. msg01646/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Aptitude and apt-get
Thanks for the reply, Jeff. After reinstalling apt, aptitude and dpkg, I still had the same problem. -mk -Original Message- From: Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Aptitude and apt-get Mike Kuhar, 2002-Sep-10 04:03 -0400: Hi everyone, I've got a strange one. As root, in aptitude, I'll do an update successfully. Then I do an upgrade, the files download, the progress bar will not show total progress, just progress per file, then reset to 0% for the next file. When the files complete downloading, I hit a carrige return to go to the installation phase, I get an error telling me that aptitude couldn't lock the cache, and will open it read only, and the upgrade stops. Using apt-get, I update successfully, I do upgrade, the files start downloading, again, instead of getting a total progress percentage at the begining of each line, I just get some bogus number. When downloading is complete, I get an error message telling me that every file I just watched download is missing, and maybe I should try again with --fix-missing. If I do something like 'apt-get --reinstall install apt', this works. If I use apt-get to install a new package, it installs the new package successfully along with any dependancies. I'm running unstable with the 2.4.19 kernel on three machines, and this strange behavior only affects one machine. Anyone one got any ideas as to the problem? After you reinstall apt, do you get this problem again at all? It seems like you had dpkg, dselect, apt or aptitude running somewhere else whily tried to do the update. By reinstalling, that would stop any other apt processess to reinstall, which would remove the lock. just a thought...jc -- Jeff Coppock Systems Engineer Diggin' DebianAdmin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailing list problems
Hi I am trying to unsubscribe to this mailing list, and even after I respond to the confirmation email, I am still getting emails from this list. Can any body help. Thanks in advance Srinivas
Re: Script to stop DCHP client if no ethernet cable attached
Does anyone have a script that will detect that the ethernet port is not connect to a hub/switch (mii-tool detects this well) so that when I boot my machine when disconnected I do not have to wait for the DHCP client to fail. I currently have in /etc/network/interfaces:- iface eth0 inet dhcp David, Try adding the line pre-up /usr/local/sbin/chkiface under your eth0 stanza, where chkiface is a script you write, whose return value tells whether the NIC is plugged in. See interfaces(5) for details on pre-up. If you need help writing the script, I'm sure someone on debian-user could help with that as well. Good Luck! Jason McCarty PS: Please CC me on replies. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mice can not work in a new kernel 2.4.19
Willy Sutrisno said: Actually I never ask a solution for my geforce, because I can use Nvidia Driver in 2.4. yes, but at least to me your post indicated that you switched to 2.4.x specifically to use your geforce4.(I don't use 2.4.x anywhere cept on test systems) nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Solution was: [module parport_pc lsst sich nicht laden]
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 the mental interface of nate told: [...] e.g. modprobe parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7 the above parameters are usually the defaults for the parallel port on most systems.. check the bios of your system to be sure if it doesn't work .. Yep! The velleman adapter was compiled into the kernel directly. This is an paralellport sensor adapter which has blocked io=0x378 before the parport_pc was loaded as a module. I removed velleman fom the kernel and printing is working now! Ciao Elimar -- Alles was viel bedacht wird ist bedenklich!;-) Friedrich Nietzsche msg01653/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Building debian on S/390?
Greetings; Has anyone here installed debian on a S/390? I have downloaded jigdo and libdb3, built and installed libdb3 but I am getting hung up on making jigdo. Before I spend anymore time beating my head against the desk I thought there might be a better way. I am doing this under TurboLinux 7.0.0 (kernel 2.4.17) on S/390 and I do not have a cd burner or reader available. I do have net access. Many TIA! Dennis -- Dennis G. Wicks Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communications Data Group Tel: (217)355-7117 Fax: (217)351-6994 102 S. Duncan Rd. Champaign, IL 61822 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing new kernel
Mark == Mark L Kahnt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Mark I'm hoping that first make is something like make config, make Mark menuconfig or make xconfig, so that you can adjust the kernel Mark to the needs of your system, such as specific graphic, network or Mark sound cards. If you have a previously compiled kernel, you can copy the old .config file, and run make oldconfig to be prompted for just the configuration options which have been added. If you use make-kpkg, or a pre-built kernel, the old .config file can be found in /boot/config-version. [...] Mark What is recommended with Debian, however, is to use make-kpkg ... Note that make-kpkg is in the Debian package called kernel-package. -- Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.uhoreg.ca/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/124B61FA Fingerprint: 96C5 012F 5F74 A5F7 1FF7 5291 AF29 C719 124B 61FA Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. msg01655/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fvwm configuration
Glyn == Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glyn I want to do this in the Debain way though - What I cannot completely Glyn grasp is the Debian way with fvwm, where most of the user configuration Glyn is done in hook files called from the system .fvwm2rc file. I'm not Glyn clear what should go into which hook file - and yes I have read the docs Glyn but am just dim :-( Glyn Can anyone point me to a full sample configuration ? Or maybe share Glyn their own ? You do not have to use the system .fvwm2rc file. Here is my setup http://people.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/X.tar.bz2 (It is my complete X setup, of which fvwm is a part). I essentially create my own .fvwmrc file, and load system bits as I see fit. manoj -- And I will do all these good works, and I will do them for free! My only reward will be a tombstone that says Here lies Gomez Addams -- he was good for nothing. Jack Sharkey, The Addams Family Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome2 - HELP
I have succesfully downloaded packages, but several of them hangs during setting up: - file-roller - bud-buddy - gnome-applets2 - gnome-control-center2 - gnome-panel-data2 and several others. No error message ... Can you give me hint what to do? Thanks Vlada On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 19:35, Amir Tal wrote: On Tuesday 10 September 2002 20:25, Francois Chenais wrote: Hello, Where can I find Debian gnome2 packages for sarge ? Thanks a lot. Franחois try : deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main tal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fvwm configuration
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glyn Can anyone point me to a full sample configuration ? Or maybe share Glyn their own ? You do not have to use the system .fvwm2rc file. Here is my setup http://people.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/X.tar.bz2 (It is my complete X setup, of which fvwm is a part). I essentially create my own .fvwmrc file, and load system bits as I see fit. Many thanks - will study with care!! Glyn -- Debian Home http://www.debian.org Debian Planet http://www.debianplanet.org/ For the children http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-jr/ In a hurry??? http://qref.sourceforge.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome2 - HELP
Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have succesfully downloaded packages, but several of them hangs during setting up: - file-roller - bud-buddy - gnome-applets2 - gnome-control-center2 - gnome-panel-data2 Run `apt-get install' again. They took a time (almost 15 mins) for me to set up. -- Booting... /vmemacs.el -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome2 - HELP
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 21:42, Henrik Enberg wrote: Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have succesfully downloaded packages, but several of them hangs during setting up: - file-roller - bud-buddy - gnome-applets2 - gnome-control-center2 - gnome-panel-data2 Run `apt-get install' again. They took a time (almost 15 mins) for me to set up. You was right, waiting solved it. Vlada -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Local address lookup
Hi Jan, I'll assume that you have the default gateway setup and a static route to your local net. Check /etc/nsswitch.conf to insure that you have the entry: hosts: files dns Also, for hosts on the same network, you don't have to specify domain names. So your entries should look like this /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.2.2 saturn 192.168.2.1 jupiter Hope this helps. -mk -Original Message- From: Jan Willem Stumpel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Local address lookup This is a follow-up to the thread Local Net - delays in telnet login of last month. I have a local (home) network containing machines jupiter and saturn. Saturn has a connection to the Internet (ADSL) which may or may not be functioning. Both machines are running Woody. Symptom: if saturn's Internet connection is down, from jupiter, telnet saturn succeeds, but only after a long delay. If the connection is up, telnet saturn succeeds immediately. Saturn has IP address 192.168.2.2. If I use the numerical address (telnet 192.168.2.2) it *always* succeeds immediately, no matter if there is an Internet connection or not. This suggests a DNS type problem. Everywhere (on jupiter and saturn) /etc/host.conf has order hosts,bind (I also tried order hosts bind, space instead of comma, as stated by an old version of the *Linux Network Administrator's Guide*). /etc/hosts on both machines has 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.2.2 saturn.my.home saturn 192.168.2.1 jupiter.my.home jupiter /etc/resolv/conf on jupiter has cache . root.cache nameserver aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd nameserver aaa.bbb.ccc.eee These are the ISP's name servers; of course when there is no Internet connection they do not work, but I assume that the /etc/hosts file will get priority anyway. I have installed the Debian package *host* so I can type from jupiter host saturn I get the answer saturn does not exist, try again But if I type host 192.168.2.2 I get (at once) Name: saturn.my.home Address: 192.168.2.2 Aliases: saturn So it seems the identification saturn -- 192.168.2.2 cannot be made locally (i.e. on jupiter) although the identification 192.168.2.2 -- saturn can. What is wrong with my address lookup set-up? regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude and apt-get
Mike Kuhar, 2002-Sep-10 13:43 -0400: Thanks for the reply, Jeff. After reinstalling apt, aptitude and dpkg, I still had the same problem. -mk Hmmm...the only time I see that message could not lock the cache, opening in read-only mode is when I have left aptitude open on another terminal somewhere, or running apt-get something somewhere. Check your processes to make sure you don't have any other instances of apt/dpkg running. The only other thing I can think of is permissions on the /var/cache/apt and /var/cache/apt/archives directories which should be drwxr-xr-x for both. jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PHP + apache + mm problems AGAIN
Hello,
this seems to be a common issue, but I get
PHP Fatal error: Unable to start session mm module in
Unknown on line 0
when I try to start apache with php4_module.
The usual recommendations,
1) remove /tmp/session_mm.sem or give access
permission to the user running php4,
2) increase the limit on shared memmory (echo
33554432 /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax).
are useless -- it's an Athlon x86 machine, so shmmax
is already 33554432, and /tmp/ is empty and
user writable as it should be.
Debian: testing (sid)
Kernel: both 2.4.18 2.4.19 but not a kernel issue as
far as I can see
Related packages:
# dpkg -l php* apache* | awk '/^ii/ { print $2 \t $3
}'
php44.1.2-4
php4-imap 4.1.2-4
php4-mysql 4.1.2-4
php4-pear 4.1.2-4
php4-pgsql 4.1.2-4
apache 1.3.26-1
apache-common 1.3.26-1
Any ideas?
Regards,
Skrjabin
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Re: scsi ide disk speeds?
I've always thought SCSI disks are faster than the IDE disks, but this does not seem to be the case (at least for device reads). Anyone have a good explanation, or am I missing something? Well, you've got ancient SCSI hard drives, I'm not surprised. Those drives are simply not all that fast in the first place. BTW: Is there a good place to put in the hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda somewhere at the boot scripts? I've added it to the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh script. It would be very nice to have this as default without making any manual changes, but I assume there are reasons why not. That's fine, I put my own hdparm file in /etc/init.d Box1: Sep 8 20:49:08 box1 kernel: Vendor: IBM Model: DDRS-39130D Rev: DC1B Sep 8 20:49:08 box1 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Sep 8 20:49:08 box1 kernel: (scsi0:A:6): 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) Box2: Sep 10 10:51:01 box2 kernel: Vendor: IBM Model: DNES-309170W Rev: SA30 Sep 10 10:51:01 box2 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 Sep 10 10:51:01 box2 kernel: (scsi0:A:6): 11.626MB/s transfers (5.813MHz, offset 8, 16bit) See the 11.626 MB/s line on box2? Go into the adaptec bios (ctrl-a on bootup), and fix the sync speed, or the negotiation speed.. Whichever they call it. That'll make a big difference to equalizing the machines. Mike Dresser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dhcp/windoze question
nate wrote: yeah. if this is a normal ethernet network you should have no problems. HOWEVER, if the DHCP server is a win32 box you may quite likely have DNS problems, as at least NT4 seems to add a line feed character or something at the end of the nameservers it reports, so check /etc/resolv.conf if your on such a network, you can modify the DHCP scripts to ignore resolv.conf and you can configure it manually if this is the case. How do i know which computer is the DHCP server? They are all just win98 boxen w/ the tcp/ip set to obtain IP address automatically. Or do i never need to know the ip address of the dhcp server (i thought that the deb installation asks you for that if you choose DHCP). if this is not a normal ethernet network(e.g. this is a computer with DSL over PPPoE or soemthing) then additional configuration may be required. Yeah, it's just normal ethernet (their is a DSL modem, but that will be shared by a windoze box. Thanks! Cam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scsi ide disk speeds?
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Svante Signell wrote: Hi, I have two different computers with SCSI disks, both with IBM brand, one an DDRS-39310D (10GB) and the other an IBM DNES-309170w (10GB) using the same kernel driver version, AIC7XXX, rev. 6.2.4 and debian stock kernels 2.4.18-686 and 2.4.18-686-smp, respectively. The second box reports much lower speeds at boot-up, and the performance is also lower for box2. This is unexpected since both the SCSI driver and the disk is newer. Anyone have a good explanation? Also compared to the box2 IDE disk (with DMA enabled), the speeds for the SCSI disks are inferior: www.storagereview.com/legacy_comp.html Go to the second testbed setup.(first doesn't have the drives you need) You can't directly compare all the drives, but to be fair, i put the 40gv, both ultrastar es's, and a WD caviar 30 gig in the comparision. And for giggles, a modern hard drive, the WD1000BB Once you adjust the bus speed of that UltraStar 18ES, it's not that bad of a drive. It's a pretty pointless comparision because you have to change OS's in the comparision, but the IDE drive generally walks all over both SCSI drives. And the 100 gig modern drive just stomps all over the rest of them. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
streaming problem
hi all :), i have a problem, i have 2 servers, with linux and apache 1.3.26 in it, one (A) have a slow connection 64kbit isdn, and the other (B) have a fast connection 100mbit, in A i have motion (http://motion.technolust.cx/) sharing a webcam in port 8001 and a java applet (cambozola) to show in the index of the webserver the camera in real time, i would like connect the fast (B) to the slow connection (A) and share with many people this camera without open more than one connection from (B) to (A), because bandwith is too little to open many connections with B. Do you know any solution to this problem? thanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: streaming problem
On 10 Sep 2002, skuda wrote: hi all :), i have a problem, i have 2 servers, with linux and apache 1.3.26 in it, one (A) have a slow connection 64kbit isdn, and the other (B) have a fast connection 100mbit, in A i have motion (http://motion.technolust.cx/) sharing a webcam in port 8001 and a java applet (cambozola) to show in the index of the webserver the camera in real time, i would like connect the fast (B) to the slow connection (A) and share with many people this camera without open more than one connection from (B) to (A), because bandwith is too little to open many connections with B. Do you know any solution to this problem? thanks in advance Does the camera upload jpg's or something similar, one at a time? If so, just setup the apache on B), and have A) upload the pictures to B) Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scsi ide disk speeds?
Svante Signell wrote: Hi, -SNIP- However, with DMA off the speed is very low: hdparm -d 0 /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 15.26 seconds = 4.19 MB/sec I got just about the same answer(s) on my machines when I ran hdparm on them. ALL of the machines were defaulting to DMA off. This all started when a visiting guru complained about the slow FTP transfers over my home LAN. Upon investigation, I found the HD I/O on the various machines was capping the max transer rate of large files (330 Mbyts or so) to about 14% (14 Mbs)of the rated capacity (100 Mbs) of the network between any two machines! Turning DMA on on all machines rasied this value dramatically to around 50% of the rated capacity between any two machines! -SNIP- BTW: Is there a good place to put in the hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda somewhere at the boot scripts? I've added it to the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh script. It would be very nice to have this as default without making any manual changes, but I assume there are reasons why not. There is a Debian package called hwtools that creates a nice initscript located in /etc/init.d/ that is called during bootup. There is a place to place this command in there. I just discovered this and implimented it here. It works like a charm! You get a few other tools in the process, most of which I havn't used yet. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dhcp/windoze question
Cameron Matheson said: nate wrote: How do i know which computer is the DHCP server? They are all just win98 boxen w/ the tcp/ip set to obtain IP address automatically. Or do i never need to know the ip address of the dhcp server (i thought that the deb installation asks you for that if you choose DHCP). the logs on the debian machine should show what IP is the DHCP server. on win98 the command winipcfg should show the IP of the DHCP server, if its winnt or win2000 ipconfig /all should show. it's not really that important, just be aware if the /etc/resolv.conf is screwed up after switching to DHCP it could be because the DHCP server is running some flavor of win32. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scsi ide disk speeds?
Svante Signell said: Hi, I've always thought SCSI disks are faster than the IDE disks, but this does not seem to be the case (at least for device reads). Anyone have a good explanation, or am I missing something? as another pointed out, your scsi disk is pretty old, keep in mind that transfer rate isn't everything, access time is also as important if not more so then transfer rate. many SCSI disks have access times rated at sub 7ms (some are at 5ms). Most IDE disks are in the 10+ms range still. One of the fastest IDE drives is the Western Digital 8MB cache series(Special Edition) they have 8.9ms access times..which is still higher then a 5400RPM IBM 2.01GB ultrawide scsi disk I had back in 1996 ..(7.5ms). I have 2 100GB Special ediiton drives in software raid1 connected to a promise ata/100 controller, they are pretty fast. They don't compare to my Ultra160 SCSI disk connected to a 29160N at work though. also hdparm probably isn't the best tool to benchmark SCSI disks since it is geared towards IDE disks.. bonnie++ can probably give more real-world tests since it operates on the filesystem level and copies/creates/deletes files of many sizes in several different ways. It also uses a large amount of data, the tests you posted seem to indicate 64MB worth of data is all that was measured, bonnie++ usually uses (system ram)*2 worth of disk space to test. SCSI doesn't really start to shine though until you have multiple devices on the bus. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Motherboards
Thanks JC, Are you suggesting avoiding Woody, the VIA chipset, or the Soyo P4VDA mother board? Jeff -Original Message- From: Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Motherboards Jeff Whitman, 2002-Sep-09 18:54 -0400: Hello, I'm looking for information on P4 motherboards and chipsets for Woody? Please share any success or failure information. Thanks, Jeff Hey Jeff, I've only have one P4 MB and it has the VIA chipset. I'm having trouble with the agpgart and the sound (via8233a) with woody and 2.4.19 kernel and ALSA, so I'd suggest avoiding it...Soyo P4VDA. jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: streaming problem
skuda said: hi all :), i have a problem, i have 2 servers, with linux and apache 1.3.26 in it, one (A) have a slow connection 64kbit isdn, and the other (B) have a fast connection 100mbit, in A i have motion (http://motion.technolust.cx/) sharing a webcam in port 8001 and a java applet (cambozola) to show in the index of the webserver the camera in real time, i would like connect the fast (B) to the slow connection (A) and share with many people this camera without open more than one connection from (B) to (A), because bandwith is too little to open many connections with B. Do you know any solution to this problem? thanks in advance I haven't tried this, but maybe a reverse proxy-cache with squid? put the webserver up and put the proxy-cache on the fast connection.. http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/FAQ/FAQ-20.html nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian 3.0 and AIRONET PCI4800 (Aironet PCI350) ?
I could really use some help. I have a CISCO AIR-PCI350 card that I have been trying to get to work in Linux. I'd prefer to use Debian so I am asking here if anyone on the list has a workstaion using a PCI wireless setup ? I have yet to get this to work under Linux and it works great under MS Windows. Any pointers ? Thanks Dee -- W.D.McKinney (Dee) http://3519098920 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs remote repository access w/o pserver?
nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DvB said: I installed the cvs package and, as was recommended during configuration, didn't enable pserver. Now all I need to do is figure out how to access the repository without using pserver... anyone? cvs over ssh. theres a buncha docs out there on how to do it, its probably easier then setting up pserver which is already easy ..:) Thanks! ssh isn't installed on the sun server the repository's on, but it's all behind a firewall, so I got it working using rsh with the help of these pages (in case anyone else finds this thread and wants to know): http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8threadm=fa.d2gclav.oikg82%40ifi.uio.nornum=1prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dcvs%2B-d%2B%253Aext%253A%2Bpermission%2Bdenied%2Bcvs%2B%255Bcheckout%2Baborted%255D%253A%2Bend%2Bof%2Bfile%2Bfrom%2Bserver%2B(consult%2Babove%2Bmessages%2Bif%2Bany)%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Motherboards
Jeff Whitman said: Thanks JC, Are you suggesting avoiding Woody, the VIA chipset, or the Soyo P4VDA mother board? VIA chipsets are pretty similar as far as their problems are concerned. most of my experience comes from the P3-class VIA chipsets, of which I avoid the onboard sound(disabled on CUV4X), the onboard IDE(use promise ATA/100s instead), and don't use AGP(NVidia's drivers usually auto disable AGP when they find a VIA chipset, but I disable it in XF86Config-4 as well). My soundcard of choice is Soundblaster PCI128.. I do like the VIA-based boards ..but for less headaches its not too hard to just work around the problems. By doing this my VIA-based boards are rock solid. I have a CUV4X that was up for nearly 14 months which I pounded on day in and out(Matrox G400) till a 3 hours power outage killed it(UPS couldn't last long enough). nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fvwm configuration
Udo Schlaepfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but instead to add user customizations via hooks in the ~/.fvwm directory. Then the packaging system can update menus and the system .fvwm2rc if it so wishes without codging up your customisations. Witch it can still do if you maintain your own .fvm2rc. The changes just will not hit your desktop. Ah but there's the rub! I WANT those menus ;-) By the way, the only hook file updated by the package systems seems to be the menudefs.hook. And i stated in my previous mail, that you can (should) include this one. Many thanks for this. So I can read in the _system_ menudefs.hook and the autogenerated menus will appear? I take your pijnt about the hooks and willplay some more!! many thanks Glyn -- Debian Home http://www.debian.org Debian Planet http://www.debianplanet.org/ For the children http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-jr/ In a hurry??? http://qref.sourceforge.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fvwm configuration
Once upon a time Glyn Millington said... I want to do this in the Debain way though - What I cannot completely grasp is the Debian way with fvwm, where most of the user configuration is done in hook files called from the system .fvwm2rc file. I'm not clear what should go into which hook file [...] I use three of the hook files: init-restart.hook : I kill the FvwmPager module then restart it with options * * (because I dont want the default 0 3). main-menu-pre.hook : I create a bunch of my own menus and them to the /Debian menu. post.hook : All other configuration goes here (styles, rebind mouse buttons and window buttons, bind keys, misc commands and module parameters). Can anyone point me to a full sample configuration ? Or maybe share their own ? I'd be happy you to send you my config files if you still want them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 11:52:01PM +1000, David Pastern wrote: well since you want to be rude and immature i'll respond in likewise - go fuck yourself. It's people like you that piss newbies off and turn them away from linux and open source. You have major attitude. Most probably a 14 year old looking at your choice of l33t etc as words. I'll have you know I've proabably been using UNIX before you were even born you little whelp. Thank goodness I RTFM and know how to use procmail. * plonk * Very sincerely yours, -- -- Edward Guldemond Key fingerprint: 29FF 2969 A04E F934 3F03 4329 BC56 3AA7 2F57 6735 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fvwm configuration
Cameron Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use three of the hook files: Thanks for these! Can anyone point me to a full sample configuration ? Or maybe share their own ? I'd be happy you to send you my config files if you still want them. If you could that might be very helpful. A good example is worth a great deal! Thanks again Glyn -- Debian Home http://www.debian.org Debian Planet http://www.debianplanet.org/ For the children http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-jr/ In a hurry??? http://qref.sourceforge.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
I think that would be a excellent alternative for some people. I consider the lists invaluable sources of information, but not everyone has the bandwidth to have lots of emails coming in to their inbox. Someone did mention that there was a mirror to the lists, so hopefully that is the case. Dave -Original Message- From: Matus fantomas Uhlar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 2:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Subject: Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-) - Why on earth (to stay local) doesn't Debian move the lists to a - newsserver instead That way it's much easier to follow threads and - only download the messages that is of interest. And if Debian does not - connect to other newsservers, they will not get obnoxious groups as - alt.sex or comp.microsoft.. - There is a newsgroup where this mailinglist is mirrored - check the - archives (or someone else might mention it) I plan to try litttle news server for (possibly) all newsgroups, just for myself for now but maybe I'll make it public (well, i need agreement from list admins probably). -- Matus fantomas Uhlar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I don't wish to receive spam to this address. Varovanie: Nezelam si na tuto adresu dostavat akukolvek reklamnu postu. Linux is like a wigwam: no Windows, no Gates and an apache inside... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fvwm configuration
Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Udo - many thanks for the reply. My problem is this:- np As I said earlier, I have read the docs, as well as the manpages! What the doc about the system file says explicitly is that one should NOT do what you are recommending, Not true: ,[ /usr/share/doc/fvwm/README.sysrc.gz ] | If a user is not completely happy with the environment set up by | system.fvwm2rc, they could make any modifications they wish by copying | system.fvwm2rc to ~/.fvwm2rc, and then changing the file. ` This should read ~/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc, but it states what i suggested. but instead to add user customizations via hooks in the ~/.fvwm directory. Then the packaging system can update menus and the system .fvwm2rc if it so wishes without codging up your customisations. Witch it can still do if you maintain your own .fvm2rc. The changes just will not hit your desktop. By the way, the only hook file updated by the package systems seems to be the menudefs.hook. And i stated in my previous mail, that you can (should) include this one. That principle I understand! Good. There are examples of the various hook files, but they are rather brief and the explanations are somewhat terse, so I am still a little hazy about which sections of my customisations belong under which hook. Most can clearly go into the post.hook. Which would than be a replacement for your own .fvwm2rc ... So I asked for a few further examples. Still hoping!! Sorry for not being clearer. No need to apologiese, your intentions are clear enough. The hook system is nice (especialy the automatigcaly build Debian menu) but in my oppinion overkill. You can use it but why bother with x hook files if you can achieve the same result by building your own .fvwm2rc. If you think about it, the hook system is nothing else than a .fvwm2rc broken down into parts read into the system.fvwm2rc to build your own .fvwm2rc. Uhm ja, you guess what i mean. Tschoe Udo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Litle query :)
Hi everyone :) To load my dsl ECI Hi focus usb modem, i must use a kernel =2.4.0. So i must compile it and replace the old one. I run on a Woody release, so do you think it's a good idea ? Thanx for answer Pierre - Original Message - From: David Pastern [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Matus fantomas Uhlar' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:37 AM Subject: RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-) I think that would be a excellent alternative for some people. I consider the lists invaluable sources of information, but not everyone has the bandwidth to have lots of emails coming in to their inbox. Someone did mention that there was a mirror to the lists, so hopefully that is the case. Dave -Original Message- From: Matus fantomas Uhlar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 2:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Subject: Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-) - Why on earth (to stay local) doesn't Debian move the lists to a - newsserver instead That way it's much easier to follow threads and - only download the messages that is of interest. And if Debian does not - connect to other newsservers, they will not get obnoxious groups as - alt.sex or comp.microsoft.. - There is a newsgroup where this mailinglist is mirrored - check the - archives (or someone else might mention it) I plan to try litttle news server for (possibly) all newsgroups, just for myself for now but maybe I'll make it public (well, i need agreement from list admins probably). -- Matus fantomas Uhlar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I don't wish to receive spam to this address. Varovanie: Nezelam si na tuto adresu dostavat akukolvek reklamnu postu. Linux is like a wigwam: no Windows, no Gates and an apache inside... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude and apt-get
Mike Kuhar, 2002-Sep-10 16:35 -0400:
I've checked, and there are no other instances of either apt-get or aptitude
running. Further, the appropriate permissions are set to the directories
/var/cache/apt and /var/cache/apt/archives.
One question, however. Is the pid of either apt-get or aptitude stored in a
*.pid file that either may check?
-mk
I don't see a pid file for apt-get, dpkg or aptitude in /var/run
(which is where it should be). I also found lock files in
/var/lib/aptitude and /var/lib/dpkg, but they don't change when I
start aptitude or dselect.
I ran an strace on aptitude without any other instance and once with
another instance running and diff'd the output and found this:
aptitude:
fcntl64(3, F_SETLK, {type=F_WRLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=0, len=0})
= 0
open(/var/lib/dpkg/updates/, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 4
aptitude Readonly:
fcntl64(3, F_SETLK, {type=F_WRLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=0, len=0})
= -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
and there's no attempt to open /var/lib/dpkg/updates at all. I check
that dir and found no files.
I don't know what this means, but I thought I'd post it incase someone
does understand this.
jc
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RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
Edward, Most probably not actually, i'm older than you most probably think (although you're most probably older than me anyways). And i'm not a whelp - my point has been made I think. You have been using unix for a long time, I suspect that you may partially forget what it is like to be a newbie. Please stop implying that I don't read the man pages etc. I do. And I try to understand their terse wording and lack of working examples as best I can. But anyways, i'll apologise for my harsh words, and we'll just let things drop ok? I have my opinion on these matters, and you have yours. Best wishes, Dave -Original Message- From: Edward Guldemond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Subject: Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-) On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 11:52:01PM +1000, David Pastern wrote: well since you want to be rude and immature i'll respond in likewise - go fuck yourself. It's people like you that piss newbies off and turn them away from linux and open source. You have major attitude. Most probably a 14 year old looking at your choice of l33t etc as words. I'll have you know I've proabably been using UNIX before you were even born you little whelp. Thank goodness I RTFM and know how to use procmail. * plonk * Very sincerely yours, -- -- Edward Guldemond Key fingerprint: 29FF 2969 A04E F934 3F03 4329 BC56 3AA7 2F57 6735 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Litle query :)
Pierre, I can't see anything wrong with compiling a new kernel. I'm using Woody and the 2.4.18bf24 kernel and can't see anything wrong (mind you being new to linux if something was wrong i'd most probably honestly miss it). I'd recommend going for it. Dave -Original Message- From: Pierre Dupuis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Subject: Litle query :) Hi everyone :) To load my dsl ECI Hi focus usb modem, i must use a kernel =2.4.0. So i must compile it and replace the old one. I run on a Woody release, so do you think it's a good idea ? Thanx for answer Pierre - Original Message - From: David Pastern [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Matus fantomas Uhlar' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:37 AM Subject: RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-) I think that would be a excellent alternative for some people. I consider the lists invaluable sources of information, but not everyone has the bandwidth to have lots of emails coming in to their inbox. Someone did mention that there was a mirror to the lists, so hopefully that is the case. Dave -Original Message- From: Matus fantomas Uhlar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 2:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Subject: Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-) - Why on earth (to stay local) doesn't Debian move the lists to a - newsserver instead That way it's much easier to follow threads and - only download the messages that is of interest. And if Debian does not - connect to other newsservers, they will not get obnoxious groups as - alt.sex or comp.microsoft.. - There is a newsgroup where this mailinglist is mirrored - check the - archives (or someone else might mention it) I plan to try litttle news server for (possibly) all newsgroups, just for myself for now but maybe I'll make it public (well, i need agreement from list admins probably). -- Matus fantomas Uhlar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I don't wish to receive spam to this address. Varovanie: Nezelam si na tuto adresu dostavat akukolvek reklamnu postu. Linux is like a wigwam: no Windows, no Gates and an apache inside... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing from a floppy disk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Try using a different disk as well. I went through three before I got one that worked. Old disks I think. It's certainly worth a shot. Paul. On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:47, Pat Colbeck wrote: Did you download the correct rescue.bin image ? There are several for different processor types and floppy disk sizes (ed 1.2Mb 1.44Mb). Pat On Monday 09 September 2002 4:03 pm, Sami Rayes wrote: Hi, When I boot my PC with the Rescue.bin floppy I get repeated lines saying that the kernel could not be found. I re-downloaded the file and re-copied it using rawrite, but I always get the same result. I am a first time user! Kindly advise. Thank you in advance. Sami Rayes. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com - -- Paul Bryan E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key http://www.keyserver.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xB1D405DA Come fill the cup and in the fire of spring Your winter garment of repentence fling. The bird of time has but a little way To flutter -- and the bird is on the wing. -- Omar Khayyam -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9fcgV3qGyTLHUBdoRAtJDAJsH+oy7EvTWLLyRT7TWQf2UFGZTMgCgslxS N0jzuWhedFgf0Lwf0uEOCQI= =2hhJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboards
Jeff Whitman, 2002-Sep-10 17:29 -0400: Thanks JC, Are you suggesting avoiding Woody, the VIA chipset, or the Soyo P4VDA mother board? Jeff Sorry...I could try to be clear :-) . My suggestion is to avoid the VIA chipset, which I plan to do on my next MB purchase. However, nate gives some good advice in this thread that you should consider. Interesting note on the agpgart issue: the kernel module doesn't load stating unsupported hardware (I think?), but if I boot the machine to Knoppix 3.1 the agpgart module loads just fine. I haven't tried to chase this down yet. jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
