Re: MS WINWORD and WINE problems....

2002-09-19 Thread jeff



don't bother running M$ products under linux unless 
you're running VWware... you'll just end up making a big un-fun 
mess.
 
you might want to take a good look at:
 
http://www.openoffice.org/
http://www/kde.org/
 
good luck!
 
-jeff


Re: running ntpdate as user

2002-09-19 Thread Mike Kuhar

I think a better way to handle this is to forget about running ntpdate
as a user.  Instead, setup ntpdate, as root, in crontab to run every 12
or 24 hours.  -mk

On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 18:49, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
> > > Anyone know what I need to change in order to run ntpdate as a user
> > > without using su sudo ...?
> >
> > Without looking I assume that changing the time is a root privilege
> > operation.  Otherwise anyone could change the time and play games with
> > the system.  Therefore what you would have to change to allow non-root
> > to do this would be the code in the kernel which makes that a privilege
> > operation.
> >
> > Bob
> 
> I think what Bob is trying to say is:
> 
> Why would you want to compromise the security of your system in this way?
> 
> My preference has to be to run it with sudo. If you are worried about the
> 'annoyance' of having to enter a password (perhaps it's running from a non
> interactive script) you can configure sudo to not need a password for that
> particular operation.
> 
> Andrew
> 
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Re: unstable, just how unstable is it

2002-09-19 Thread Dominique Dumont

Cheryl Homiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, be careful if you are trying to upgrade from testing to unstable.
> I tried it last night and got stuck in some kind of conflict between coreutils
> and fileutils, where you were somehow going to have to temporarily remove
> fileutils because of the conflict. 
> I decided to stick with testing from now, but
> not before I lost some stuff on my system--that was my own fault for a choice I
> made, didn't just automatically happen in the attempt to upgrade. am still
> fineding out packages I removed by the bad decision I made. anyway, if you get
> stuck with a problem during the upgrade, look very carefully at your options
> before you do anything.
> It's the first time i ever really had a serious problem doing an upgrade between
> stable, testing and unstable, and I've done it several times. but one should
> never become too complacent, especially when dealing with an upgrade to
> unstable.

I had the problem. Since the installation process got the error before
installing anything, I left it there.

24 hours later, I retried and it worked without any problems. Thanks
to the debian team for the fast work.

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Re: MS WINWORD and WINE problems....

2002-09-19 Thread Dominique Dumont

Irvin Temp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ive been playing with Wine(version in woody) and MS Offcie 2000. I was to configure
> 
> wine manually and using winesetup... I also installed MS Office 2000 and was able 
> 
> to launch the MS WORD, EXCEL and POWERPPOINT apps. My problem here 
> 
> is when i close the WORD application i would get a pop-up box with the message 
> 
> saying 
> 
>  
> 
> "The Disk is full or too many files are open.
> 
> (C:\Windows\..\Templates\Normal.dot)" 

I had the same problem with word on Windows2000 (no wine or
linux). The problem came from one of the included visio drawing. One
of them was corrupted. Once I deleted the drawing, I was able to save
the file.

That's all I know ...

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Just a tip for you zip100 users

2002-09-19 Thread John Manko

I've been running RedHat for a few years now, but decided to change to 
Debian
to test myself, :).  And I've been learning a lot.

I decided to backup to my zip some code I was working on.

However, after the "conversion", I couldnt mount the zip under debian, 
and it was killing me.
Until I took a very close look at dmesg

# dmesg | more



hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 8200, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
ide-floppy driver 0.97.sv
hdd: 98304kB, 196608 blocks, 512 sector size
hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm
Partition check:
 hdd: hdd4



Do you notice that the zip (hdd) drive is actually partitioned (hdd4)?  
so, instead of mounting

# mount /dev/hdd /mnt/zip -t vfat

I have to

# mount /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip -t vfat

It took me a while to realize this, and quite a pain in the ass.

I hope this helps everyone (yes, I should be loading IDE-SCSI, but not 
needed yet, :)
And remember, it's not also the best thing to have the installer
blindly take care of things, :)

Now, maybe someone can help me get Abiword to run, hehe.

John Manko




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is logrotate able to send emails with attachments?

2002-09-19 Thread Stephan Schmieder

Hello!

I'm trying to configure logrotate,
that is emails me the rotate logfiles.
This works fine, but the logs reside in the body part of the mail

I want them as attachment.
What do I need to do?



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Re: running ntpdate as user

2002-09-19 Thread Adrian von Bidder

On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 09:38, Mike Kuhar wrote:
> I think a better way to handle this is to forget about running ntpdate
> as a user.  Instead, setup ntpdate, as root, in crontab to run every 12
> or 24 hours.  -mk

I'd suggest
 - network connection available (most of the time)?
set up ntpd. If you traceroute to some site, and try the
routers along the path (ntpq -p ), you'll find 
one that has ntp running. Chosing a ntp server close to your
computer will usually result in better time synchronisation than
chosing a 'good' timeserver far away.
 - network connection only occasionally?
set up ntpdate to be run in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d or similar.

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Re: MS WINWORD and WINE problems....

2002-09-19 Thread Irvin Temp
Thanks Dominique, do you happen to know what was the exact file that you delete? 
the only app i installed on my linux box is MS OFFICE 2k. If you remember the exact location of the file you deleted that woluld be great... 
 
TIA 
irvin 
 Dominique Dumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 

> > "The Disk is full or too many files are open.> > (C:\Windows\..\Templates\Normal.dot)" I had the same problem with word on Windows2000 (no wine orlinux). The problem came from one of the included visio drawing. Oneof them was corrupted. Once I deleted the drawing, I was able to savethe file.Do You Yahoo!?
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Re: Just a tip for you zip100 users

2002-09-19 Thread Preben Randhol

John Manko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 19/09/2002 (10:35) :

I also switched to ide-scsi for my internal 250 ZIP and speed increased
a lot :-) At home I have a parallell port ZIP so there I didn't get
these problems.

> Now, maybe someone can help me get Abiword to run, hehe.

The debian package doesn't work?

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Re: MS WINWORD and WINE problems....

2002-09-19 Thread Kent West

Irvin Temp wrote:

> Ive been playing with Wine(version in woody) and MS Offcie 2000. I was 
> to configure
>
> wine manually and using winesetup... I also installed MS Office 2000 
> and was able
>
> to launch the MS WORD, EXCEL and POWERPPOINT apps. My problem here
>
> is when i close the WORD application i would get a pop-up box with the 
> message
>
> saying
>
>  
>
> "The Disk is full or too many files are open.
>
> (C:\Windows\..\Templates\Normal.dot)" 
>
>  
>
> This happens all the time, thus i could not save my work, everytime i 
> would save
>
> a file this happens. Has anyone experience this, any recommended 
> solutions,
>
> explanations or links regrading this problem would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
>  
>
> Irvin
>
"Normal.dot" is a template file that contains default settings such as 
custom styles, custom toolbars, macros, and AutoText entries. Some 
viruses, such as Melissa and AutoClose infect this file. If I'm not 
mistaken, "normal.dot" normally does not get written to the drive except 
when changes to the preferences (to the template, actually) are made, or 
when the system is infected with one of these types of viruses.

So the first thing I would do would be to shut down all of Word and 
rename "normal.dot" (a new one will be created automagically when you 
restart Word). See if that makes a difference.

Another thing to look at is to see if wherever "normal.dot" is 
read/writable for your user. Assuming the file is not infected, and the 
file is being written as part of the normal course of events for Word, 
this could be your issue.

Kent




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Re: Problems upgrading to testing dist...

2002-09-19 Thread Colin Watson

On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 09:52:53PM -0400, Jerome Acks Jr wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 05:53:50AM -0600, Dave Bartmess wrote:
> > Removing libdb1-compat ...
> > dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, directory `/usr/share/doc'
> > not empty so not removed.
> > dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, directory `/usr/share' not
> > empty so not removed.
> > dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, unable to remove directory
> > `/usr': Device or resource busy - directory may be a mount point ?
> > dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, directory `/lib' not empty
> > so not removed.
> > dpkg: error processing libdb1-compat (--remove):
> >  cannot remove `/.': Invalid argument
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> >  libdb1-compat
> > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> To me this looks like libdb1-compat was successfully removed. I sure
> wouldn't want dpkg to remove /usr/share/doc/, /usr/share, /usr, /lib,
> or /.

To me it looks like dpkg has forgotten about all other files in
/usr/share/doc! Normally it wouldn't try to remove that directory.

This certainly isn't normal, but I'm not sure where to start diagnosing
it from a distance. I wonder if /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list are intact.

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Re: Need witnesses

2002-09-19 Thread Jeff Maxson

On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 07:56:03AM -0700, Michael Cardenas happened to mention:
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 07:15:13PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > Folks,
> > 
> > Please download
> > 
> > http://www.softwarechoice.org/download_files/Maccrisken.Letter.doc 
> > Please be prepared to stand as witnesses when I expose some odd
things in the 
> > 
> > Oh, this is going to be fun.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Bruce
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Done. The file, the md5sum, and a signed document containing the
> strings and the md5sum can be found at hyperpoem.net/letter. 
> 
> Go get em. 
> 
> -- 
> michael cardenas | lead software engineerlindows.com
> hyperpoem.net| GNU/Linux software developer  debian.org

So for those of us who don't have OO or MSWord, what is the letter
about?  Why the exitement?


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Re: Just a tip for you zip100 users

2002-09-19 Thread Eric G. Miller

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 04:11:37AM -0500, John Manko wrote:
> I've been running RedHat for a few years now, but decided to change to 
> Debian
> to test myself, :).  And I've been learning a lot.
[snip]
> Do you notice that the zip (hdd) drive is actually partitioned (hdd4)?  
> so, instead of mounting

Same with Jaz drives. From my /etc/fstab...

/dev/sda4 /jaz vfat defaults,noauto,rw,user,unhide  0 0

(Guess I should delete that since the Jaz is dead...).

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PalmOSEmulator (pose) sync with Jpilot?

2002-09-19 Thread Kent West

I just installed pose (Palm OS Emulator) and used the ROM from my 
Handspring Visor. Very impressive emulator.

If I want to synch it with JPilot running on the same box, how do I set 
this up? Currently I have both pose and JPilot pointing to /dev/pilot, 
which doesn't exist. On a real Palm, I know that'd be a symlink to 
whatever real device (/dev/ttyS0 or /dev/usb1 or similar), but of 
course, this is an emulator rather than the real thing.

Thanks for any help!

Kent



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Problem is doc corruption

2002-09-19 Thread DSC Siltec

Later versions (after Word 6) of M$ Word have extensive corruption
problems.  One of the more benign versions of corruption sometimes looks
like that message "disk full" that you described.

To solve it, select all, then hit "F9" (update fields).

Now go through, and look for some dynamically linked item such as an
Equation that has been replaced by the small bold type "ERROR!  Cannot
update unlinked object!" or something like that.

Put your cursor next to that equation, and hit "undo".

Enter a completely new equation like the old one, just before it.

Delete the old, corrupt equation.

Save.

---> Aside from that, our experience has been that Word corrupts
documents as they get larger, if you do any of the following:
Paste end-of-line markers;  paste tables; Copy/Paste (should cut and
paste, preferably with an intermediary like text);  change the
definition of what "NORMAL" style is;  use FAST SAVE; use VERSIONS; use
MASTER DOCUMENTS; use EDITING.

Corruption can result in:  loop errors (computer locks up, trying to
refresh a new screen segment that references itself continuously),
longer loop errors (keep seeing the same page over and over as you page
down), destroyed tables, destroyed text, missing text, destroyed formatting.

If you get these problems, you have to clean the document.  That means
(1) debride all dead text, and save the remaining parts "as" a new file
(2) go over those parts, and copy straight text to a clean document,
never once copying a table or ^p paragraph marker

In general, my advise is to name your files with version numbers, and
"save as" regularly.  FILE0001.doc, FILE0002.doc, etc.  That way, if you
do get corruption, you can get old text from the old doc.  But you
should also keep a handwritten journal of everything you do from one
file to the next.

- Mike









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Re: MS WINWORD and WINE problems....

2002-09-19 Thread Sam Varghese

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> don't bother running M$ products under linux unless 
> you're running VWware... you'll just end up making a big un-fun mess.
> 
> you might want to take a good look at:
> 
> http://www.openoffice.org/
> http://www/kde.org/

Win4Lin runs all M$ apps without a problem. CXOffice does an adequate
job with Office 97 and 2000 - apart from M$Access. 

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Re: running ntpdate as user

2002-09-19 Thread Andrew Pritchard

> I think a better way to handle this is to forget about running ntpdate
> as a user.  Instead, setup ntpdate, as root, in crontab to run every 12
> or 24 hours.  -mk
>

I remember when I first started using Linux, it was as a internet
firewall/connection sharing box using a dial-up connection. I had ntpdate
run every time the ppp link was brought up.

Andrew


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OT: Re: Need witnesses

2002-09-19 Thread Timothy Coggins

Jeff Maxson wrote:

>So for those of us who don't have OO or MSWord, what is the letter
>about?  Why the exitement?
>
Nothing really. Try 'strings WordDoc.doc | less' which  usually works 
for me when I want to read bits of a word document. If the whole point 
of this is to prove that someone else wrote, edited or viewed the 
document it won't prove much. The author could have opened the file, 
deleted all the contents and started to write the letter. The author 
might have done this to use the header which is an image. And the 
machine used might not be registered in the author's name. I frequently 
use other people's machines.

Tim.



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Ad removing proxies

2002-09-19 Thread Andrew Pritchard

I've decided that I'm bored of waiting for the latest and greatest ad to
come down doubleclick's apparently slow link. So I've decided to resolve
this problem with a technological solution. I've been looking at proxies,
in the debian testing branch:

filterproxy - A filtering proxy, which can among other things remove ads.
privoxy - Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy
wwwoffle - World Wide Web OFFline Explorer
muffin - A personal and extensible Web proxy

Are the 4 that seem to fit the bill. What are people's
impressions/evaluations of these? Is there a better one I've missed?

wwwoffle, but with little success. Is someone using wwwoffle who can show
me part of the config file so I can see where I'm going wrong. I only have
a small site - 2 or 3 people at most. Have people found scaling these a
problem?

Cheers,

Andrew


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No X after upgrade Potato -> Woody

2002-09-19 Thread Erik van der Meulen

Dear all -

I have just taken the dive and decided to upgrade (my Dell Latitude Cpi
330) to Debian Woody.

After the process was completed, I was no longer taken into Gnome after
a boot, but ended at the console login prompt without error messages.
If I typed 'X' there, I would see error messages of the type:

  > sh: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp: No such file or directory
  > Couldn't
  > load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap

I have looked this up in the list archive and found suggestions to do:

  apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base

and:

  apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xfree86

Now if I do 'X' the gray 'fish bown' screen appears with an 'X' cursor,
but no login. Again, a reboot only gives a console login prompt.

I would be most pleased with any suggestions how this might be fixed. I
have searched /var/log/* but did not find any messages that provided
more insight.

Thanks a lot.

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Re: No X after upgrade Potato -> Woody

2002-09-19 Thread Adam Galant

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Erik van der Meulen wrote:

> Dear all -
> 
> I have just taken the dive and decided to upgrade (my Dell Latitude Cpi
> 330) to Debian Woody.
> 
> After the process was completed, I was no longer taken into Gnome after
> a boot, but ended at the console login prompt without error messages.
> If I typed 'X' there, I would see error messages of the type:
> 
>   > sh: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp: No such file or directory
>   > Couldn't
>   > load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
> 
> I have looked this up in the list archive and found suggestions to do:
> 
>   apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base
> 
> and:
> 
>   apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xfree86
> 
> Now if I do 'X' the gray 'fish bown' screen appears with an 'X' cursor,
> but no login. Again, a reboot only gives a console login prompt.

Try 'startx' instead of 'X'. 'X' runs onlu an X-server with no clients
which will give you exactly what you described. With 'startx' you should
get an X session with a windowmanager you installed (there should be at
least twm).

Check also whether your window/desktopmanager is installed on your
system. Finally check for 'xdm', 'gdm', 'kdm', 'wdm' or 'whatever-dm' for
graphical login after boot.

Regards,

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Diagonal strips when runing X....

2002-09-19 Thread Zbigniew Perski

Hi,
Two weeks ago I decided to move from WinNT to Debian woody. I am new in Linux so
I decided first to instal woody as a 2nd system. Installation was correct (bf2.4
on ext3) but problems starts when I tried to turn on X windows. After startx my
screen showing me colored screen with scewed desktop stretched over center of the
screen and whole picture is divided into thin diagonal strips.
I am running Hercules Thriller 3D (8MB RAM) and 17' OptiView 17L monitor. The
XFree86 is configured to use rendition driver (the card is using this chipset)
and 1024x768 at 75Hz (same as I working with NT).
If I am trying to change screen resolution or frequency the distortions remains
the same. The same effect was when I tried with different monitor.
Does anyone have similar problem?

Regards

Zbigniew



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Broken package stopping upgrades

2002-09-19 Thread Dave Bartmess

I have my apt configured to use testing. I tried to upgrade a few
packages which caused libc6 to be upgraded, and in the process it tried
to install libdb1-compat. 

libdb1-compat errored out in the install, and now I can't upgrade at all
because it errors on the removal too!

Everytime I try to upgrade anything the following is what I get. I've
tried apt-get -f install to fix the broken package, but this doesn't
help...

Can someone tell me how to get back to a working scenario???

$ sudo apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libdb1-compat 
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 111kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
(Reading database ... 19 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libdb1-compat ...
dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, directory `/usr/share/doc'
not empty so not removed.
dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, directory `/usr/share' not
empty so not removed.
dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, unable to remove directory
`/usr': Device or resource busy - directory may be a mount point ?
dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, directory `/lib' not empty
so not removed.
dpkg: error processing libdb1-compat (--remove):
 cannot remove `/.': Invalid argument
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libdb1-compat
localepurge: checking for new locale files ...
localepurge: processing locale files ...
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)




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Re: binaries into deb's [newbie]

2002-09-19 Thread Josep Llauradó Selvas


Hello Kevin,

I'm not an expert, but I usually:

apt-get the packages debhelper debianutils debconf-utils and compiling
tools

create a mutt directory in /usr/local/src (for example) and cd into it
add deb-src lines in your sources.list

apt-get source mutt

Then you have in /usr/local/src/mutt/mutt- the original source
tree with a few dirs and files added, basically under debian directory.
In this directory you'll found 2 important files:

changelog: to add comments about the patches added to the main tree. To
add a comment use, under source root directory: "dch -i", that creates a
skeleton of the comment to fill-it.

rules: A script that makes the compilation and install. In this file you
can put the lines with the patch commands or you can patch yourselve prior
to the compilation.

To compile and make a deb file: debuild binary. this command executes the
rules file and creates a deb package in the /usr/local/src/mutt directory.

Hints: You can save your deb package to be override for a new one from
the debian tree using a diferent version (for example for my packages I
use -darlock.).

Well, I'm not an expert, but I did a few packages using this formula. Feel
free to send me an e-mail if you have any problem.

Regards.

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On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Kevin Coyner wrote:


 I recently moved from RH and SuSE over to Debian, and wished I would
 have done it sooner.  The whole distro is nice, but in particular
 apt-get is great.

 So far I've only installed standard tools/utilities/programs readily
 available via apt-get and stable/testing.  I'd like to avoid unstable if
 possible.

 Question:  how do I maintain the robustness of apt-get yet be able to
 download binaries and patches and compile them myself?

 Example:  I use and love Mutt.  Testing has v1.4, which I've apt-get
 installed, but I'd like to recompile it with a few patches that I like.
 But if I do the compiling, make and make install myself, then I lose the
 ability to track it in apt-get.

 I have to believe that after compiling I can put it all into a deb
 package, but how difficult is it, and could someone please point out a
 good reference.  I've looked for a reference, but haven't found anything
 solid yet.

 Thanks
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exim right choice?

2002-09-19 Thread Benedict Verheyen

Hi,

i currently use a dual boot win98/debian 3.0. Since i'm having so much fun with 
debian, i am going to put my Suse 7.2 server on debian too.
While i'm doing this, i would like to set up a simple mail retrieving mechanism.
I think exim will do the job fine but i want to be sure :-)
My network is setup like this: the dualboot pc behind the suse 7.2 server which has 
connection to the internet via cable.
I have 2 mailboxes at my isp, 1 for me and 1 for my wife. So i would like exim to run 
on my soon-to-be debian server and check the mailbox from me and my wife at my isp's 
site every x minutes and store the mail locally on my server.

Then i would use Kmail (or another client) to connect to my server and get the mail 
from there instead of from my isp. Of course, i don't want to retrieve the mail from 
my wife. Would save me a lot of time since i'm currently subscribed to a couple of 
debian mailing lists and they are quite busy :-)

When sending mail, my mail client should send it to my server which then would take 
care of sending it to my isp's pop3 server.
The whole setup would add an extra step: instead of email client - isp it would be 
email client - local server - isp.

Is a combo of kmail / exim able to do this without to much trouble?

Thanks


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Re: No X after upgrade Potato -> Woody

2002-09-19 Thread Erik van der Meulen

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 12:39:13PM +0200, Adam Galant wrote:

> Try 'startx' instead of 'X'. 'X' runs onlu an X-server with no clients
> which will give you exactly what you described. With 'startx' you should
> get an X session with a windowmanager you installed (there should be at
> least twm).

Thanks for your reaction! If I do 'startx' as root, I see the exact same
'fish bone' screen. If I do this as regular user, I see all these x
lines in the console but it ends with 'waiting for x server to shut
down'. After that, my .xsession-errors shows:

  x-window-manager:  unable to open fontset
  "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120
  -*-*-*-*-*-*"



> Check also whether your window/desktopmanager is installed on your
> system. Finally check for 'xdm', 'gdm', 'kdm', 'wdm' or 'whatever-dm' for
> graphical login after boot.

I expect my system to have gnome, since it did just before I upgraded
from Potato to Woody. In fact, it runs Ximian-Gnome (or 'did' I should
say). gdm exists in /etc/init.d

Any further suggestions are tremendously appreciated!

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Re: Ad removing proxies

2002-09-19 Thread Jason Healy

At 1032452681s since epoch (09/19/02 06:24:41 -0400 UTC), Andrew Pritchard wrote:
> I've decided that I'm bored of waiting for the latest and greatest ad to
> come down doubleclick's apparently slow link.

(snip)

> What are people's impressions/evaluations of these [proxies]? Is
> there a better one I've missed?

I use squid, which may be overkill for a single machine (I use it for
a small network).  It's a very good proxy, and highly configurable
(though this means that it takes a little while to set up).

Tied into squid I have adZap:

http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/adzap/

Which is basically a giant blacklist of URLs that squid blocks ads
from.  It works very well (IMHO), and there's a cron job included to
automagically get the latest ad blocking URLs once a week.  It blocks
images, javascript, flash, and java ads, and replaces them with either
a blank space, or a message that says "This Ad Zapped".  Very nice.

I don't know much about the other proxies; you might be able to get
adZap to work with them as well if you don't need the overhead of squid.

If you want to try that approach, I can share configs if you run into
trouble.

Jason

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perlapi-5.6.0 for unstable

2002-09-19 Thread Peter van Hove

Hello All,

I would like to know if anyone has an idea when the perlapi-5.6.0
package will be released for unstable. I know that there currently
working to get Perl 5.8 into unstable but i kind seem te find any
information about this.

I know that there are package for perlapi-5.6.0 from the Perl 5.8
package maintainer but the link he provide onto the mailinglist is a
dead end.

So if anyone would have some news about it it's quite welkom.

Kind regards
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Re: Lyx package

2002-09-19 Thread Josep Llauradó Selvas


There is a lot of development for the upcoming release, because the Lyx
people are creating new frontends of the package using Gnome and Kde, that
will give us the LyX in the debian main. :-)

In the LyX web page you'll found the beta packages, but they aren't usable
at the moment (or I'm not able to do it).

We have to wait a few month to get the new release, but I'm sure we'll be
so happy to test it as soon as possible.

kind regards.


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On 17 Sep 2002, Riaan Rottier wrote:

 Hi

 Does anybody know if the Lyx package are still being maintained, version
 1.2 has been out since May this year and 1.2.1 since August.  Or are the
 perhaps other problems that prevent the updated versions from being
 packaged ?

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Defoma Info Needed

2002-09-19 Thread Donald R. Spoon

I am tracking Debian "testing" with a few packages from "unstable".  I 
run the XFS font-server, and frequently have to manually update various 
config files after an upgrade to get my fonts back.  Most of this seems 
to revolve around using defoma.  I am trying to get a handle on the 
defoma package and fonts in general and need some pointers.

1.  Is there a faq/mailing list for defoma?
2.  Which Apps are "defoma aware" and make use of it?  I am aware of the 
"apps" button in dfontmgr, but currently my system only lists a few apps 
(6) such as abiword-common, gs, pango, etc.
3.  Is there anyway to make the recommended defoma FontPath changes in X 
"stick" over upgrades to X, or through a "dpkg-reconfigure ..." of the 
xserver if you have accepted debconf config of the XF86Config-4 file?

Sorry for these questions, but perusing the existing Docs doesn't seem 
to help me much. Ossification between the ears I suppose

Cheers,
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apache 2

2002-09-19 Thread daniel meier

is there a apache2 package already in debian "sarge"? couldn't find it. if
yes, whats the name of the package?

regards

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Re: Connecting to X remotely w/ssh

2002-09-19 Thread Josep Llauradó Selvas


The only way to run applications over ssh IMHO is using the application
remotely, but NOT start the X server with startx.

You can make an ssh with X forwarding active adding a -X to the command
line (if your SSHD server allow X11Forwarding, that under Debian is
deactivated by default). You can check the /etc/ssh/sshd_config to
activate it.

Once in the remote host you can launch any X11 app and it will be
displayed in the local X.

To start an entire encripted remote session (I don't recomend it) I
suggest you to allow the XDMCP and if you can trick with SSH create a tunnel
of the XDMCP port. You'll find in www.openssh.net all the information
about tunnelling.

I prefer the first method, because it's the fastest and you can execute any
remote app mataining the desktop local (someone that doesn't consume CPU
if you use a 'memory-controlled' desktop).

Good luck.

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On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:

 What are the steps involved in starting up an X sesstion remotely using ssh.
 I may be accessing my home computer from work and will need to run an
 X session from time to time. (Work computer really slow-Home computer really
 fast= time saver).  I can currently connect via ssh to a console screen.

 I remember reading some while back a line that needed to be added in .sshrc.
 Is this all that is needed and then just type startx?

 Lance


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[OT] Problem with "Too many open files"

2002-09-19 Thread Alex Polite

I'm having problems with a "Too many open files" error.

I've increased the /proc/sys/fs/file-max to 10 and the count in
/proc/sys/fs/file-nr is no where near that.

Further googling tells me that there is also a "open files per process
limit".

1) How do I increase the "open files per process limit"?
2) How do I find out which processes have which files open?

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Re: exim right choice?

2002-09-19 Thread Ben Goodstein

On (19 Sep 02 11:15), Benedict Verheyen wrote:



> I have 2 mailboxes at my isp, 1 for me and 1 for my wife. So i would like exim to 
>run on my soon-to-be debian server and check the mailbox from me and my wife at my 
>isp's site every x minutes and store the mail locally on my server.
> 
> Then i would use Kmail (or another client) to connect to my server and get the mail 
>from there instead of from my isp. Of course, i don't want to retrieve the mail from 
>my wife. Would save me a lot of time since i'm currently subscribed to a couple of 
>debian mailing lists and they are quite busy :-)
> 
> When sending mail, my mail client should send it to my server which then would take 
>care of sending it to my isp's pop3 server.
> The whole setup would add an extra step: instead of email client - isp it would be 
>email client - local server - isp.
> 
> Is a combo of kmail / exim able to do this without to much trouble?
> 

There seems to be some confusion here about the different types of mail
server. A solution for your situation would probably be to use an agent
like fetchmail to pick up mail from the respective pop3 mailboxes at
your isp and then forward them to your local MTA (exim) for delivery to
your respective local mail folders.

You don't send mail via a pop3 server. If you have exim running it will
be able to send mail via smtp to the intended recipients, without having
to use your isp's mail servers at all.

So it would be email client -> local server -> remote server.

I don't use Kmail but I can't imagine it would be difficult to get it to
poll your mail spool (default on debian is /var/spool/$USERNAME) for
incoming mail and use your local smtp server for outgoing mail.

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Re: Mac Fonts

2002-09-19 Thread Arun A Tharuvai


In Debian, you might want to try using pfaedit to convert macintosh
truetype fonts to Windows. It's primarily a font editor but can also
import from and export to a fair number of outline font formats. I
personally have had mixed results when importing Macintosh fonts.

Arun

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> >Hello,
> 
> >How can I installed some Mac fonts on my x86 Linux Box ?
> 
> >Thanks
> 
> >Yogesh
> 
> Mac fonts are not any different than those ttf fonts in Windows but
> anyway...
> 
> 1. Use ttfconverter (a handy Macintosh utility that should still be
> folating around the cyberspace) to convert Macintosh true type fonts
> to ttf and install them as usual.
> 
> I do not know of *nix equivalent to this utility but I am assuming
> someone made it available. You need to convert ttf fonts on Mac to
> ttf fonts usable for Windows and work from there.  As far as old mac
> bitmap fonts go, I'm afraid I can't help you there and I don't know
> if it can be done at all...
> 
> Of course, you will need to enable true type fonts as usual
> (information is available, google and ye shall find...)...
> 
> 
> Davor


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RE: Ad removing proxies

2002-09-19 Thread DEFFONTAINES Vincent

I've been using privoxy and I really like it.
Its a bit intrusive (sometimes "scrambles" a pic that is not an ad).

It is derivated from junkbuster, so it will block cookies, javascript,
depending on the way you configure it of course.

It also has a "fun" (optional) feature : some regexp replacements can be
configured on page contents. Some will find it funny enough to replace
"microsoft" with "micro$oft" on every wab page they view...

Only saying I like privoxy, I didn't try others...

Vincent


> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Pritchard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday 19 September 2002 12:25
> To: Users Debian
> Subject: Ad removing proxies
> 
> 
> I've decided that I'm bored of waiting for the latest and 
> greatest ad to
> come down doubleclick's apparently slow link. So I've decided 
> to resolve
> this problem with a technological solution. I've been looking 
> at proxies,
> in the debian testing branch:
> 
> filterproxy - A filtering proxy, which can among other things 
> remove ads.
> privoxy - Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy
> wwwoffle - World Wide Web OFFline Explorer
> muffin - A personal and extensible Web proxy
> 
> Are the 4 that seem to fit the bill. What are people's
> impressions/evaluations of these? Is there a better one I've missed?
> 
> wwwoffle, but with little success. Is someone using wwwoffle 
> who can show
> me part of the config file so I can see where I'm going 
> wrong. I only have
> a small site - 2 or 3 people at most. Have people found 
> scaling these a
> problem?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andrew
> 
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Re: Lyx package

2002-09-19 Thread Colin Watson

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 01:58:45PM +0200, Josep Llaurad? Selvas wrote:
> There is a lot of development for the upcoming release, because the Lyx
> people are creating new frontends of the package using Gnome and Kde, that
> will give us the LyX in the debian main. :-)

We should get it in main relatively soon anyway; XForms was recently
released under the LGPL. The XForms maintainer has some test packages in
preparation.

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Re: Broken package stopping upgrades

2002-09-19 Thread Colin Watson

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 04:54:35AM -0600, Dave Bartmess wrote:
> I have my apt configured to use testing. I tried to upgrade a few
> packages which caused libc6 to be upgraded, and in the process it tried
> to install libdb1-compat. 
> 
> libdb1-compat errored out in the install, and now I can't upgrade at all
> because it errors on the removal too!

Did you see my question earlier about whether /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
still exist and look sane?

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Re: perlapi-5.6.0 for unstable

2002-09-19 Thread Colin Watson

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 06:34:34PM +0200, Peter van Hove wrote:
> I would like to know if anyone has an idea when the perlapi-5.6.0
> package will be released for unstable.

It won't. It has been removed. (perlapi-5.6.0 was only ever a virtual
package provided by the Perl 5.6 packages anyway.)

> I know that there are package for perlapi-5.6.0 from the Perl 5.8
> package maintainer but the link he provide onto the mailinglist is a
> dead end.

I didn't see any such link ...

What do you need perlapi-5.6.0 for, anyway? Whatever depends on it
should be recompiled against Perl 5.8.

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Re: [OT] Problem with "Too many open files"

2002-09-19 Thread Gottfried Szing

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:05:44PM +0200, Alex Polite wrote:
> I'm having problems with a "Too many open files" error.
> 
> I've increased the /proc/sys/fs/file-max to 10 and the count in
> /proc/sys/fs/file-nr is no where near that.
> 
> Further googling tells me that there is also a "open files per process
> limit".
> 
> 1) How do I increase the "open files per process limit"?

ulimit(3)

> 2) How do I find out which processes have which files open?

lsof(8)

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Re: exim right choice?

2002-09-19 Thread Steve Waterman

Just run kmail, let it grab the mail from your isp's server.  

For local smtp transport (to your smtp server at the isp), ssmtp is a nice, 
easily configurable replacement for sendmail or exim.

No reason to make it complicated than necessary.


On Thursday 19 September 2002 06:12, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i currently use a dual boot win98/debian 3.0. Since i'm having so much fun 
with debian, i am going to put my Suse 7.2 server on debian too.
> While i'm doing this, i would like to set up a simple mail retrieving 
mechanism.
> I think exim will do the job fine but i want to be sure :-)
> My network is setup like this: the dualboot pc behind the suse 7.2 server 
which has connection to the internet via cable.
> I have 2 mailboxes at my isp, 1 for me and 1 for my wife. So i would like 
exim to run on my soon-to-be debian server and check the mailbox from me and 
my wife at my isp's site every x minutes and store the mail locally on my 
server.
> 
> Then i would use Kmail (or another client) to connect to my server and get 
the mail from there instead of from my isp. Of course, i don't want to 
retrieve the mail from my wife. Would save me a lot of time since i'm 
currently subscribed to a couple of debian mailing lists and they are quite 
busy :-)
> 
> When sending mail, my mail client should send it to my server which then 
would take care of sending it to my isp's pop3 server.
> The whole setup would add an extra step: instead of email client - isp it 
would be email client - local server - isp.
> 
> Is a combo of kmail / exim able to do this without to much trouble?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
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IPv6 DNS Queries

2002-09-19 Thread Ramon Kagan

Hi,

I've compiled my kernels (40+ systems) without IPv6 support and I have no
desire for IPv6 in any format at this time.  However, I see that I am
transmitting IPv6 DNS queries, in IPv4 packets.  Two things:

1.  This is causing my DNS servers to get hammered, almost forcing a DoS.

2.  How the heck do I stop this from happening?  It seems all recent
packages have IPv6 support, so does that mean I'm SOL?

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York University, Computing and Network Services
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Re: exim right choice?

2002-09-19 Thread Quenten Griffith

My ISP only lets me get my mail if I am on their network so what I did 
was setup fetchmail to go poll my ISP Pop email box and pull it into my 
Debian box sitting at home and drop it into an IMAP account then I use 
Kmail or the webmail program I set up to check my mail from work/friends 
houses etc.  Since it drops it off into a local IMAP server I don't have 
to worry about leaving my mail behind and losing it and trying to 
remember where that important email that I got is, if I pulled it in at 
work or what, with IMAP the mail sits on the server till I delete it. 
 Then I use my own sendmail SMTP to send mail out (my ISP has had bad 
problems with their SMTP server going down)

Steve Waterman wrote:

>Just run kmail, let it grab the mail from your isp's server.  
>
>For local smtp transport (to your smtp server at the isp), ssmtp is a nice, 
>easily configurable replacement for sendmail or exim.
>
>No reason to make it complicated than necessary.
>
>
>On Thursday 19 September 2002 06:12, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>i currently use a dual boot win98/debian 3.0. Since i'm having so much fun 
>>
>>
>with debian, i am going to put my Suse 7.2 server on debian too.
>  
>
>>While i'm doing this, i would like to set up a simple mail retrieving 
>>
>>
>mechanism.
>  
>
>>I think exim will do the job fine but i want to be sure :-)
>>My network is setup like this: the dualboot pc behind the suse 7.2 server 
>>
>>
>which has connection to the internet via cable.
>  
>
>>I have 2 mailboxes at my isp, 1 for me and 1 for my wife. So i would like 
>>
>>
>exim to run on my soon-to-be debian server and check the mailbox from me and 
>my wife at my isp's site every x minutes and store the mail locally on my 
>server.
>  
>
>>Then i would use Kmail (or another client) to connect to my server and get 
>>
>>
>the mail from there instead of from my isp. Of course, i don't want to 
>retrieve the mail from my wife. Would save me a lot of time since i'm 
>currently subscribed to a couple of debian mailing lists and they are quite 
>busy:-)
>  
>
>>When sending mail, my mail client should send it to my server which then 
>>
>>
>would take care of sending it to my isp's pop3 server.
>  
>
>>The whole setup would add an extra step: instead of email client - isp it 
>>
>>
>would be email client - local server - isp.
>  
>
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Re: Help with errors in dpkg

2002-09-19 Thread Colin Watson

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 06:33:20AM -0600, Dave Bartmess wrote:
> I believe this libdb1-compat HAS been removed, but how do I get past
> this? I can't get anything to upgrade at this point, because it
> continually errors out.

I've asked you a question to try to narrow things down twice now ...

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Re: Video window still dark....

2002-09-19 Thread Nicos Gollan

On Wednesday 18 September 2002 19:28, Pierre Dupuis wrote:
> I have got a ATI radeon 8500, and i'm using the 4.2.1.0-pre1 xfree
> server...I'm going to test some over color depth, i will infor you :)

It's got nothing to do with color depth, it's the simple fact that 
XVideo extensions are not fully implemented in the radeon drivers. 
Getting the extension is some kind of a hassle. Basically, you need to:

1. Get the XFree source (preferably from DRI CVS, 
http://dri.sourceforge.net)
2. Get the necessary patch, it's somewhere on the maillist or I can send 
you a diff file
3. Apply the patch, there's some manual work if you're using the one 
from the list
4. Compile and install the stuff

If you make it this far, it works really well. The only thing you'll 
have to do is not to overwrite the radeon driver afterwards (the binary 
driver packages from DRI do this!)

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Help with errors in dpkg

2002-09-19 Thread Dave Bartmess

I believe this libdb1-compat HAS been removed, but how do I get past
this? I can't get anything to upgrade at this point, because it
continually errors out.

Please help!

$ sudo apt-get  upgrade 
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libdb1-compat 
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 111kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
(Reading database ... 19 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libdb1-compat ...
dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, directory `/usr/share/doc'
not empty so not removed.
dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, directory `/usr/share' not
empty so not removed.
dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, unable to remove directory
`/usr': Device or resource busy - directory may be a mount point ?
dpkg - warning: while removing libdb1-compat, directory `/lib' not empty
so not removed.
dpkg: error processing libdb1-compat (--remove):
 cannot remove `/.': Invalid argument
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libdb1-compat
localepurge: checking for new locale files ...
localepurge: processing locale files ...
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)



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Re: Nvidea-GeForce2ConfigProblem

2002-09-19 Thread Nathan O. Siemers





I've got an athalon system with integrated nvidea geforce2 svga,
ethernet, modem, sound card on a single chip (I believe).

I found the debian packages for patching the current Woody X systems
and kernel to be confusing, I prefer leaving kernel work to myself
with straight downloads from kernel.org and nvidia.com

The nvidia site has a very detailed description of what XF86Config-4
settings to use (XFv3 is *not* supported) and what not to use.

If there is interest, I'll post/send my kernel .config and
XF86Config-4 files.  I include framebuffer and AGP support in the
kernel (2.4.19), and use the kernel's AGP so far rather than the nvidia
version.

Nathan


snippets:
XF86Config-4


Section "Module"
# not nvidiaLoad"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
#not  nvidia   Load "dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xie"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
Driver  "nvidia"
Option  "nvAgp" "2"

# maybe on with nvidia? Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
EndSection




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> Trying to get X up and running
> 
> Snippet from /var/log/X*0.log
> 
> Symbol XAADoBitBlt from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o
> is unresolved!

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Kernel Modules

2002-09-19 Thread Bob Underwood

Hi all,

I've asked related questions in the past without success.  So, I'll 
try one more time.  I'm just looking for a pointer to the correct 
place to resolve the difficulty.

I'm using the XFree86 experimental 4.2.1-0pre1v1 debs because my rage 
pro 128 is not supported by previous editions.  DRI will not enable 
because it needs a newer version of the r128.o module than is in the 
kernel.  The log says it needs version 2.2 or higher and 2.1.16 is in 
the kernel.  I'm using kernel-image-2.4.19-k7.

My questions:

How are kernel modules numbered?  Apparently they do not reflect the 
kernel-numbering system?

Since I am using the latest stable kernel where do I go to find a 
newer kernel module?

Is this even the right list to ask this question?  If not, a pointer 
to the right list would be helpful.

TIA
bob 


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Woody: What's the proper name of the C++ lib?

2002-09-19 Thread Holger Rauch

Hi!

What's the right lib name to pass to the -l linker flag for compiling C++
progs on Debian 3.0 (Woody)? I tried to use "-lstdc++-libc6.2-2", but that
didn't work. Simply using "-lstdc++" leads to a very strange linker error 
(hope it's not really a linker bug, but only the wrong library name):

/usr/bin/ld: BFD 2.12.90.0.1 20020307 Debian/GNU Linux internal error,
aborting
at ../../bfd/elf32-i386.c line 1887 in elf_i386_relocate_section

/usr/bin/ld: Please report this bug.

collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Thanks in advance for any help!

Greetings,

Holger



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Re: Woody: What's the proper name of the C++ lib?

2002-09-19 Thread Colin Watson

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:56:17PM +0200, Holger Rauch wrote:
> What's the right lib name to pass to the -l linker flag for compiling C++
> progs on Debian 3.0 (Woody)?

Just use g++ rather than gcc ...

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user infos

2002-09-19 Thread Florian Struck

Hi im just trying to figure out how to change the "from" part of a locally 
sent email.
The domain part i set up when i install exim so no problemo (lets say 
my.domain.net) but now i have a user lets say he is called "testuser", now 
when that user sends a message  in the "from" part of that message it says 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" but i want it to be, lets say 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" where do i specify that alias?
I remember i had that same thing on another machine and i solved it at that 
time but i cant remeber how i did it (probably too easy to find out) =).
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Re: Woody: What's the proper name of the C++ lib?

2002-09-19 Thread Holger Rauch

Hi Colin!

Thanks again for your really quick reply!

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

> [...]
> Just use g++ rather than gcc ...

That's what I did. Still keep getting the linker error, though. That's the
reason why I thought of using of some special C++ lib in order to get rid
of the linker error.

Kind regards,

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Re: Woody: What's the proper name of the C++ lib?

2002-09-19 Thread Colin Watson

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 03:05:05PM +0200, Holger Rauch wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Just use g++ rather than gcc ...
> 
> That's what I did. Still keep getting the linker error, though. That's the
> reason why I thought of using of some special C++ lib in order to get rid
> of the linker error.

Hm. I've never seen this, and I build C++ code all the time ... if you
were missing a library then you'd get undefined references, not a crash,
like this:

  $ cat foo.cpp 
  #include 
  int main() {
 cout << "hello, world!\n";
  }
  $ gcc foo.cpp
  /tmp/cc2su6Vb.o: In function `main':
  /tmp/cc2su6Vb.o(.text+0xf): undefined reference to `cout'
  /tmp/cc2su6Vb.o(.text+0x14): undefined reference to `ostream::operator<<(char const 
*)'
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  $ g++ foo.cpp
  $ ./a.out 
  hello, world!
  $ 

I'd file a bug with a test case.

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devfs changing group id for device

2002-09-19 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer

How do I change the group ID for a device with devfs?
Right now my scanner is on:
crwx--1 root root  21,   1 Dec 31  1969 
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target5/lun0/generic

I have to go in and chmod 777 to run the scanner as a user.
I would like to set the device up as crwxrwx--- and change the group to scanner so I 
can add
users to the group scanner to access it.

Lance


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Re: Ad removing proxies

2002-09-19 Thread Paul Johnson

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On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 11:24:41AM +0100, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
> filterproxy - A filtering proxy, which can among other things remove ads.
> privoxy - Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy
> wwwoffle - World Wide Web OFFline Explorer
> muffin - A personal and extensible Web proxy
> 
> Are the 4 that seem to fit the bill. What are people's
> impressions/evaluations of these? Is there a better one I've missed?

I personally use Squid.  I use a redirector called adzap created by
some guy who (used to?) work for the Australian ISP zipcom.com.au.
It's pretty effective at nailing ad banners, flash and MP3 ads.
http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/adzap/

Adzap was GPL'd up until May 26, 1999 when the Australian government
passed internet censorship legislation.  The code is freely usable and
redistributable now with one important gotcha: You may *NOT* use it to
enforce the Australian Broadcasting Services Amendment (Online
Services Bill) of 1999 or any legislation anywhere of similar intent.

The law in question is here:
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~mbaker/amended.html



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Re: Woody: What's the proper name of the C++ lib?

2002-09-19 Thread Holger Rauch

Hi Colin!

Thanks for your quick reply!

Some further info on this topic: I was able to build the same app
successfully on a SuSE 7.0 system (glibc 2.1.3 based) with the following
version of ld:

GNU ld version 2.9.5 (with BFD 2.9.5.0.24)

So it *seems* to me it's really a Debian Woody specific ld bug.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

> [...] 
> I'd file a bug with a test case.

Surely the best way to go, but it's kind of hard for me to figure out what
caused this linker error. What's a possible way to find out what caused
this problem (especially when taking into account that this is a larger
project)? (This approach is probably required for creating a test case
that triggers this error.)

Any other alternatives (such as using a different version of ld, or the
binutils package, respectively)?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Kind regards,

Holger



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Type1 font in LaTeX

2002-09-19 Thread Ole Sebastian Stein

I am running Debian/woody and have installed the freefonts package.

Now, I would like to use the Baskerville font that comes with it in
LaTeX.  How?

I have these files:

$ locate baskv
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/baskvl.pfb
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/baskvlb.pfb
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/baskvli.pfb
$


I am _not_ familiar with fonts, TeX, psfonts or anything like that at
all, so please don't get to technical :)

I understand that I also need the font to work with dvi and postscript
(gv or something) as well.  Preferably, I should be able to use dvipdf
to create a pdf with the fonts included as well.

I have surfed alot but what I have found is not exactly aimed at my
level, so I turn to you for help.


Thanks.


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tried it.'' -- Donald E. Knuth, March 1977


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Re: Kernel Modules

2002-09-19 Thread Volker Cordes

Bob Underwood wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I've asked related questions in the past without success.  So, I'll 
>try one more time.  I'm just looking for a pointer to the correct 
>place to resolve the difficulty.
>
>I'm using the XFree86 experimental 4.2.1-0pre1v1 debs because my rage 
>pro 128 is not supported by previous editions.  DRI will not enable 
>because it needs a newer version of the r128.o module than is in the 
>kernel.  The log says it needs version 2.2 or higher and 2.1.16 is in 
>the kernel.  I'm using kernel-image-2.4.19-k7.
>
>My questions:
>
>How are kernel modules numbered?  Apparently they do not reflect the 
>kernel-numbering system?
>
>Since I am using the latest stable kernel where do I go to find a 
>newer kernel module?
>
>  
>
Look at http://dri.sourceforge.net/

Volker



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Re: Woody: What's the proper name of the C++ lib?

2002-09-19 Thread Colin Watson

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 03:39:50PM +0200, Holger Rauch wrote:
> Some further info on this topic: I was able to build the same app
> successfully on a SuSE 7.0 system (glibc 2.1.3 based) with the following
> version of ld:
> 
> GNU ld version 2.9.5 (with BFD 2.9.5.0.24)
> 
> So it *seems* to me it's really a Debian Woody specific ld bug.

Sounds like it.

> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > I'd file a bug with a test case.
> 
> Surely the best way to go, but it's kind of hard for me to figure out what
> caused this linker error. What's a possible way to find out what caused
> this problem (especially when taking into account that this is a larger
> project)? (This approach is probably required for creating a test case
> that triggers this error.)

Just strip it down as far as you can by experiment. If all else fails, I
imagine the maintainers would be happy enough if you ran a sample source
file through the preprocessor and gave them the output (if you're at
liberty to do so).

> Any other alternatives (such as using a different version of ld, or the
> binutils package, respectively)?

You could try the version from unstable, but that depends on newer
libc6, which is a whole new problem ...

You might be best off asking the maintainer if he knows of a workaround
that can be applied in your code.

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Re: DocBook: Need Example Files and Scripts

2002-09-19 Thread Gleef

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:34:11PM -0400, Abdul Latip wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> I am not sure if this belongs to debian-doc or debian-user; so I
> send it to this list. May I know, where and how to get the SGML
> source of Debian Documents?

Sure, http://www.debian.org/doc/cvs


> Or, could someone send me or show me an URL about a recent example
> of using DocBook (DTD or XML): a real simple article or simple book,
> and its scripts.  Version 4.1 or higher is prefarable, but 3.1 is OK
> too.

It's old, but I found this article from Mark Galassi at Cygnus very
useful to get started with DocBook
http://nis-www.lanl.gov/~rosalia/mydocs/docbook-intro/docbook-intro.html

 
> I have read all documents I know:
> - DocBook: The Definitive Guide
> - LDP Author Guide
> - HOWTO-Template
> - SGMLTOOLS lite
> 
> Unfortunately, I could not find sufficient working examples.
> E.g.:
> - How make/add  a simple style modification?

I generally use the DSSSL stylesheets (Debian package docbook-dsssl),
documentation on customizing them can be found here:

  http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/dsssl/current/doc/


> - How to change things like "Table of Contents" into
>   another language.

As far as I know, the DSSSL stylesheets really aren't well suited to
internationalization.  On the other hand, the less mature XSL
stylesheets (Debian package docbook-xsl) have internationalization
support as one of its stated design goals.  You might be better off
working with those.  Find more info here:

  http://nwalsh.com/docs/articles/dbdesign/
  http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/doc/


> Therefore, I would be very happy if someone could send me
> this information.

I hope the above is useful to you.

There is also an excellent mailing list for docbook-specific
questions, more info here:
  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/docbook/mailinglist/index.shtml

Best of luck, 
-Gleef

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Re: exim right choice?

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Ian Smit

* Benedict Verheyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [19-09-2002 13:15]:

  

> Is a combo of kmail / exim able to do this without to much trouble?

Generally what you want is very doable.

Kmail is a good choice, I am sure, but it is irrelevant in the rest
of the setup. 

What you need is:

- fetchmail: which fetche... (f*ck that ;). Works like user@isp is
  user@in_my_local_network

- exim: local mail server (or MTA which most docs will call it).
  Used for accepting mail from fetchmail and making sure you're
  outgoing messages leave your own network to go to a smarthost
  (smtp@isp for instance. That is smtp not pop3)

- imap: courier-imap is a good choice, but there are, as always,
  choices. Exim needs to deliver to maildirs if you pick this imap
  package (not the default for exim, but quite easy to setup).

- Mail client: pick one, it's very difficult to find one that does
  not work in above scenario. If someone runs Windows with Outlook
  on your lan, then that should be no problem at all. Please spend
  some time educating that user, but technically it is possible.

  Just point your client at your newly created imap server. Use exim
  as the smtp server in your client.

I have made something like this work for my parents. With a couple
of glances at some HOWTOs, it is a piece of cake (i.e. 30  minutes
work). One little hint. Use /etc/email-addresses for quickly making
sure that me@mybox becomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will
typically be the easiest way, unless a local user needs to send mail
from more than one address (work, private, ...)

Don't hesitate to ask more questions, should something confuse you.
You want mail to just work. If not for you then surely for your
wife.

Bob


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Spawning at Login

2002-09-19 Thread Adam Bogacki


Hi,
I find that I get 48 'xdaliclocks' and 14 'xvidtunes' 
opening up when I start a session in Gnome 1.4 ... at first
it was amusing but I have not been able to stop this either
by using the 'kill' or 'close' commands in task manager, or
by closing each window individually.  

At least the numbers are not increasing any more and the 
files are not very large. In a previous RH install I had 
StarOffice 5.2 doing the same, but the numbers kept increasing ...
2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 15 copies of Star Office opening up until RH 
became so unstable that I, perhaps unfairly, gave up on it and 
switched to Debian.

I did have those apps open previously. Are they being
opened now because I possibly did not close them before doing
a 'poweroff' ? And how does one stop the current behaviour ?

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Configuring w3m for Mozilla

2002-09-19 Thread Adam Bogacki

Hi,
Mutt goes into w3m when I open a HTML attachment,
but when I hit 'M' to launch Mozilla, GKrellm shows the CPU
operating at 99% ... but no Mozilla.

I hit 'o' for the option menu and replaced the
external viewer option with '/home/adam/.mozilla' ... 
where is the error ?

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Re: Kernel Modules

2002-09-19 Thread Bob Underwood

On Thursday 19 September 2002 09:44, Volker Cordes wrote:
> Bob Underwood wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I've asked related questions in the past without success.  So,
> > I'll try one more time.  I'm just looking for a pointer to the
> > correct place to resolve the difficulty.
> >
> >I'm using the XFree86 experimental 4.2.1-0pre1v1 debs because my
> > rage pro 128 is not supported by previous editions.  DRI will not
> > enable because it needs a newer version of the r128.o module than
> > is in the kernel.  The log says it needs version 2.2 or higher
> > and 2.1.16 is in the kernel.  I'm using kernel-image-2.4.19-k7.
> >
> >My questions:
> >
> >How are kernel modules numbered?  Apparently they do not reflect
> > the kernel-numbering system?
> >
> >Since I am using the latest stable kernel where do I go to find a
> >newer kernel module?
>
> Look at http://dri.sourceforge.net/
>
> Volker

thanks for the link.  going to try it now.

bob


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Re: apache 2

2002-09-19 Thread Gleef

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:04:04PM +0200, daniel meier wrote:
>
> is there a apache2 package already in debian "sarge"? couldn't find
> it. if yes, whats the name of the package?

Nope, but it looks like it's in sid.

$ apt-cache search apache2
apache2-common - Next generation, scalable, extendable web server
apache2-dev - Development headers for apache2
apache2-doc - Documentation for apache2
apache2-mpm-perchild - Experimental High speed perchild/follower threaded model for 
Apache2
apache2-mpm-prefork - Traditional model for Apache2
apache2-mpm-threadpool - Experimental High speed thread pool model for Apache2
apache2-mpm-worker - High speed threaded model for Apache2
libapache2-dav-svn - Apache module for Subversion - in development, alpha
libapr0 - The Apache Portable Runtime
libapache2-mod-webapp - Apache 2.0 connector for the Tomcat servlet engine

$ apt-cache policy apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-common
apache2-mpm-prefork:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.0.40-1
  Version Table:
 2.0.40-1 0
500 http://http.us.debian.org sid/main Packages
apache2-common:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.0.40-1
  Version Table:
 2.0.40-1 0
500 http://http.us.debian.org sid/main Packages

So, as far as I can tell, it's in Sid only.

You install one of the apache2-mpm- packages, based on which
"Multi-Processing Module" (MPM) you want (the back-end apache module
that determines how the server will actually run), and includes
apache2-common (lots of front-end modules, including SSL) as a
dependency, so with that one install you should be set.

apache2-mpm-prefork is the one that works most like apache 1.x
(i.e. fork lots of mostly independent processes).

Disclaimer: I have tried none of this, the above is speculation based
on what I know about Apache 2.0 and what I gleaned from apt-cache.

Best of Luck,
-Gleef

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Re: Woody: What's the proper name of the C++ lib?

2002-09-19 Thread Holger Rauch

Hi Colin!

Thanks again for quick reply!

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

> [...]
> Just strip it down as far as you can by experiment. If all else fails, I
> imagine the maintainers would be happy enough if you ran a sample source
> file through the preprocessor and gave them the output (if you're at
> liberty to do so).

Sorry, but I dont't quite understand what preprocessor output has to do
with the linker. Doesn't a linker link *object files* together to form a
single executable?

Anyway, I will try to narrow the problem down as good as I can.

Thanks for your help!

Greetings,

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Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla

2002-09-19 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney

--Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Friday, 20 September 2002, 12:04 AM +1000):
>   Mutt goes into w3m when I open a HTML attachment,
> but when I hit 'M' to launch Mozilla, GKrellm shows the CPU
> operating at 99% ... but no Mozilla.
> 
>   I hit 'o' for the option menu and replaced the
> external viewer option with '/home/adam/.mozilla' ... 
> where is the error ?
Set the external viewer to simply 'mozilla' or '/usr/bin/mozilla';
'~/.mozilla' is a directory containing your mozilla profile, but not the
program executable.

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Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla

2002-09-19 Thread DvB

Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>   Mutt goes into w3m when I open a HTML attachment,
> but when I hit 'M' to launch Mozilla, GKrellm shows the CPU
> operating at 99% ... but no Mozilla.
> 
>   I hit 'o' for the option menu and replaced the
> external viewer option with '/home/adam/.mozilla' ... 
> where is the error ?


Well... I don't know anything about mutt, but ~/.mozilla is usually a
non-executable directory containing configuration files for your mozilla
profile. I'd suggest using the correct execurable for mozilla. To find
it, try running "which mozilla," minus the quotes and the comma from the
command line.


HTH


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apt-get

2002-09-19 Thread Nikodim Nikodimov



Is there a possible way to tell apt-get to install 
all Development packages?
 
NN
 


Re: Woody: What's the proper name of the C++ lib?

2002-09-19 Thread Colin Watson

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 04:11:46PM +0200, Holger Rauch wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Just strip it down as far as you can by experiment. If all else fails, I
> > imagine the maintainers would be happy enough if you ran a sample source
> > file through the preprocessor and gave them the output (if you're at
> > liberty to do so).
> 
> Sorry, but I dont't quite understand what preprocessor output has to do
> with the linker. Doesn't a linker link *object files* together to form a
> single executable?

I was assuming that it was possible to trigger the error with a single
file. My main point is that it's better to provide preprocessed source
rather than unpreprocessed source, because then it's easier to reproduce
the problem somewhere other than on your system.

Cheers,

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Re: Xselection

2002-09-19 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen

On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 09:41:52AM -0700, Michael Montagne wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out a way to pass the xselection to my browser.
> But without gnome-terminal or klipper.  I want to use rox-session and
> rxvt.  I found reference to a tool called Xselection that might help.
> But I can't find any debs.  Do they exist?  Where else can I download
> this tool?

You may be interested in the xclip package.

E.g. set up a button on your desktop that does:

galeon `xclip -out`

Using it is then simplicity itself: highlight the URL and click on the
button...

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Galeon - java

2002-09-19 Thread Ramon Kagan

HI,

I run mozilla and netscape and have no problems with java.  However, if I
run galeon, all I get is "you need to install the plugin".  Seeing that galeon
uses mozilla, how does one get galeon to recognize that the java
requirements are actually there?


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mouse hotspot drifts by 1/2 an inch

2002-09-19 Thread thomas kral

Dear list,

I have been using woody and I am quite happy with this Debian release.

Recently I have noticed a strange behaviour of the mouse pointer. Its 
hotspot sometimes
drifts away by roughly half an inch to the left, and reboot is the only 
remedy.

I cannot reach the left edge of the monitor screen then,
and I have to litteraly aim by 1/2" to the right of anything I wish
to click on.

Has anyone been through this as well?
Your help is appreciated.

I am set as follows..
* kernel 2.2.20 (vanilla)
* gnome 1.4.x.x
* xfree 4.2.x.x configured with /dev/mouse -> /dev/gpmdata
* gdm 2.2.5.5-2 * gpm 1.19.6-12 configured with repeat_type=raw, 
device=/dev/psaux and type=imps2


Thanks,
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Re: user infos

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Ian Smit

* Florian Struck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [19-09-2002 15:07]:
> Hi im just trying to figure out how to change the "from" part of a locally 
> sent email.

Not sure if this is what you need, but have a look at
/etc/email-addresses.

Bob


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Re: PalmOSEmulator (pose) sync with Jpilot?

2002-09-19 Thread Dave Carrigan

On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 03:01, Kent West wrote:
> I just installed pose (Palm OS Emulator) and used the ROM from my 
> Handspring Visor. Very impressive emulator.
> 
> If I want to synch it with JPilot running on the same box, how do I set 
> this up? Currently I have both pose and JPilot pointing to /dev/pilot, 
> which doesn't exist. On a real Palm, I know that'd be a symlink to 
> whatever real device (/dev/ttyS0 or /dev/usb1 or similar), but of 
> course, this is an emulator rather than the real thing.

You need two serial ports and you need to connect a null modem cable
between them. Configure pose to use the one port (there's a serial port
option in the preferences dialog) and configure jpilot to use the other
one. 

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console beep, mutt, removing compiled stuff

2002-09-19 Thread jeff

howdy folks!

few questions...

1) what makes the console beep (tab-completion,
hitting backspace) and how do you shut it off -
permanently... setterm?

2) anyone know of a nice mutt tutorial out there?
i'm starting to dump most of the gui programs in
favor of text mode stuff... ala irssi/micq...  and
i would like to add mutt to my arsenal. i would
like to test sending mail on my box (locally) only
and was wondering what you guys use for mta's and
such.

3) i compiled licq from source... ./config, make,
make install..   no success.. not sure why but i'd
like to dump licq anyway in favor of micq. i'm
still a psuedo-n00b and i know the common answer
is 'just find where it is on your box and delete
it...' ..   but i'm talking removing it
all..anything licq...

/usr/local/bin/licq
/usr/share/doc/licq/etc.

building from source is very cool indeed except
when you have to remove all the stuff it can be
kind of a pain. is there a nice one liner that
would delete it all? something like 'find / |
rm -rf 'licq files'. i like learning about console
commands because i think they're damn powerful.

thanks much guys...the list has always been
cool...

-jeff


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Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Ian Smit

* DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [19-09-2002 16:22]:
> try running "which mozilla," minus the quotes and the comma from the
> command line.

Why did you put the comma there in the first place. Is it some kind
of notation I have never seen before?

Now it looks like: type "which mozilla have a nice day" without the
quotes and have a nice day.

;)

Bob


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Re: Spawning at Login

2002-09-19 Thread Preben Randhol

Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 19/09/2002 (16:05) :
> 
> Hi,
>   I find that I get 48 'xdaliclocks' and 14 'xvidtunes' 
> opening up when I start a session in Gnome 1.4 ... at first
> it was amusing but I have not been able to stop this either
> by using the 'kill' or 'close' commands in task manager, or
> by closing each window individually.  

First close all the programs. Then go to Settings on the top panel and
go to Sessions then choose Session Properties & Startup Programs. Then
disable the Automatically store changes to session and press OK. Now
close all programs but don't log-out. Then start the programs you want
to have started every time you login. Go to Settings and session and
choose Save current session. Now logout and then login again and see if
this helps.

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Re: devfs changing group id for device

2002-09-19 Thread Dave Carrigan

On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 06:23, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> How do I change the group ID for a device with devfs?
> Right now my scanner is on:
> crwx--1 root root  21,   1 Dec 31  1969 
>/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target5/lun0/generic
> 
> I have to go in and chmod 777 to run the scanner as a user.
> I would like to set the device up as crwxrwx--- and change the group to scanner so I 
>can add
> users to the group scanner to access it.

Create a file called /etc/devfs/conf.d/scanner. It should have the
following line:

REGISTER ^scsi/host0/bus0/target5/lun0/generic PERMISSIONS root.scanner 0660

The line above is triggered when devfs first sees the device, so those
perms won't happen automatically until you either reload the sg module
or reboot.

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Re: Galeon - java

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Ian Smit

* Ramon Kagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [19-09-2002 16:45]:
> I run mozilla and netscape and have no problems with java.  However, if I
> run galeon, all I get is "you need to install the plugin".  Seeing that galeon
> uses mozilla, how does one get galeon to recognize that the java
> requirements are actually there?

Galeon has its own checkmark for java. But that is all I can think
of. Nothing else is required as far as I can tell.

Are Galeon and Mozilla in sync? This used to be a problem before
Mozilla hit stable. Cleaning out .galeon and perhaps some Gnome
config direcrories solved strange problems for me. Bookmarks etc are
also stored there so be careful when rm -r'ing these directories.

What about flash and the like? 

I have never had Netscape on my system so I'm not sure if that
changes matters.

Bob


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Re: console beep, mutt, removing compiled stuff

2002-09-19 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney

--jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Thursday, 19 September 2002, 10:58 AM -0400):
> 1) what makes the console beep (tab-completion,
> hitting backspace) and how do you shut it off -
> permanently... setterm?
You need to add the following line to your ~/.inputrc
set bell-style visible

> 2) anyone know of a nice mutt tutorial out there?
> i'm starting to dump most of the gui programs in
> favor of text mode stuff... ala irssi/micq...  and
> i would like to add mutt to my arsenal. i would
> like to test sending mail on my box (locally) only
> and was wondering what you guys use for mta's and
> such.
Go to http://www.mutt.org, and look at some of the user sites linked
from it. There's no real tutorials, per se, but a lot of configuration
examples that will help you. It will also help if you are familiar with
vi or emacs as these are the editors of choice (vi/vim in particular)
used with mutt. (In particular, mutt as installed by debian uses
vi-style keybindings for navigation.)

> 
> 3) i compiled licq from source... ./config, make,
> make install..   no success.. not sure why but i'd
> like to dump licq anyway in favor of micq. i'm
> still a psuedo-n00b and i know the common answer
> is 'just find where it is on your box and delete
> it...' ..   but i'm talking removing it
> all..anything licq...
> 
> /usr/local/bin/licq
> /usr/share/doc/licq/etc.
> 
> building from source is very cool indeed except
> when you have to remove all the stuff it can be
> kind of a pain. is there a nice one liner that
> would delete it all? something like 'find / |
> rm -rf 'licq files'. i like learning about console
> commands because i think they're damn powerful.

First off, make sure you're either in the staff group, or that you are
root when doing the make install -- otherwise it will fail when
installing.

Second, you can usually type 'make uninstall' (again, if you're in the
staff group, or as root) from the directory with the sources (i.e.,
where you compiled the program) to uninstall/remove the program and all
files it installed. However, I've known a number of programs that
didn't have the uninstall target. I've read on the list about a tool
called "checkinstall" that you run instead of 'make install' that will
create a deb package and install it out of the compiled binaries.

Hope this helps!
--Matthew


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Re: user infos

2002-09-19 Thread Florian Struck

On Thursday 19 September 2002 16:49, Robert Ian Smit wrote:

-snip-
>
> Not sure if this is what you need, but have a look at
> /etc/email-addresses.
>
-snip-

Yep lol as i said too easy to remember.
Thanx


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RE: apt-get

2002-09-19 Thread DEFFONTAINES Vincent



apt-cache search dev | grep "\-dev" | awk '{print $1}' 
| grep "\-dev" | xargs apt-get install
 
should 
do it in a very dirty way ;-)
 
 
Vincent

  -Original Message-From: Nikodim Nikodimov 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday 19 September 2002 
  16:36To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  apt-get
  Is there a possible way to tell apt-get to 
  install all Development packages?
   
  NN
   


Re: procmail locking problem

2002-09-19 Thread Kenneth Stephen


On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Bob Proulx wrote:

>
> > > message should be for /var/mail/y2kmvs.lock and not /var/spool/mail.
>
> I like to peek into the binary to make sure of what I am getting.
> Therefore I ran 'strings' on /usr/bin/procmail and see this.
>
>   strings /usr/bin/procmail |grep /var
>   /var/mail/
>
> It shows /var/mail/ and not /var/spool/mail/.  If mail "falls off the
> end" of your ~/.procmailrc file then that should be the value of
> DEFAULT unless DEFAULT is overridden.  The man page confirms this.
>
>/var/mail/$LOGNAME.lock
>   lockfile  for  the  system  mailbox
>   (not automatically  used  by  proc
>   mail,unless   $DEFAULT   equals
>   /var/mail/$LOGNAME and procmail  is
>   delivering to $DEFAULT)
>
> Next I would guess a check of ~/.procmailrc and /etc/procmail is in
> order to double check that this is not getting explicitly set to
> someplace unexpected.  At this point I really expect you will find
> something there that is setting DEFAULT.  (I seem to recall that even
> if this is changed procmail will place lockfiles in /var/mail/ and
> that is a bug getting fixed in development versions.  So YMMV here.)
>
Bob,

You the man! I had been explicitly specifying DEFAULT to
/var/spool/mail in .procmailrc. I fixed that and now the problem has gone
away.

Thanks,
Kenneth


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Re: help with dual-head OpenGL?

2002-09-19 Thread Mike Pfleger

First; let me say thanks for the support!  I figured this would be a
difficult one, after the lack of results searching in google, etc.  I'm
going to have to spend some time scouring the XFree archives a little
more thoroughly, I think.

* Ignacio Solis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
> I haven't tried hard enough, but I didn't get OpenGL working on
> Xinerama. I don't remember when was the first time I tried, not too long
> ago, and I don't know when you had it working. 

I know I had it working in a Woody install back in February, which is
about the last time I had a chance to spend much time with Blender.  My
screensavers are generally less processor-intensive ones, like Bouboule
or something, so I didn't notice the lack of GL on the second display
with a particular round of apt-get upgrade.  Now that I'm done school
and started to do some rendering again... ack.  /me bad.

> I run unstable with a Matrox G400.  The only GL thing I try to run is
> Quake3. I have two config files for XFree so I just load quake with a
> script on a different display and better XFree options.

Two config files?  I'm curious now...  Could you elaborate on this, or
perhaps send me those files off-list?

> If you get it working let me know. It'll probably be too slow but it'd
> be nice to see it. 

Well; it certainly was slow by comparison to newer (DRI 3D-accelerated)
cards, given that I have two Mach64 cards in my box.  However, it was
still nice to have the render window fire onto a clear part of the
desktop, away from the Blender workspace.  I'll post any success story
to the list when it happens.

Cheers,
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[OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread DvB

Robert Ian Smit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> * DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [19-09-2002 16:22]:
> > try running "which mozilla," minus the quotes and the comma from the
> > command line.
> 
> Why did you put the comma there in the first place. Is it some kind
> of notation I have never seen before?


:-)

I was merely following commonly accepted punctuation rules for American
English which state that, when a comma (or period) follows a quoted
passage, the comma should be placed before the final quote. I understand
this isn't the case with British English, but I happen to live on the
new continent, so I figure I should follow local rules.
What's more, after looking at what I wrote, there really should be
another comma after the word "comma" and before the word "from."


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Re: IP datagram analyzer

2002-09-19 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans

On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 11:57:23AM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote:
> I'm new to Debian and only a 1 yr vet of Linux, but 100% in the Penguin
> camp now, and looking for a GUI type of program that does IP datagram
> analyzing.  Can anyone make any suggestions?  The equivalent that ran on
> Windows was Shomiti, which let you look at a datagram broken down by
> words and bits.

You want tcpdump and ethereal.  ethereal is in many ways a GUI frontend
to tcpdump, but it's more than that.  Play around with it a bit.

noah

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IP datagram analyzer

2002-09-19 Thread Kevin Coyner


I'm new to Debian and only a 1 yr vet of Linux, but 100% in the Penguin
camp now, and looking for a GUI type of program that does IP datagram
analyzing.  Can anyone make any suggestions?  The equivalent that ran on
Windows was Shomiti, which let you look at a datagram broken down by
words and bits.

Thanks
Kevin

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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread Bob Proulx

DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-19 10:50:34 -0500]:
> > > try running "which mozilla," minus the quotes and the comma from the
> > > command line.

> I was merely following commonly accepted punctuation rules for American
> English which state that, when a comma (or period) follows a quoted

Ah, but languages were switched.  You were no longer talking American
English but Computer User.  When talking CU new rules are applied.  At
that time all literal strings are quoted exactly with characters you
wish the user to type.  :-)  I have taken to offsetting in a block
quote format just to be explicit.  And it makes cut-n-paste easier.

  which mozilla

But instead of that old csh script 'which' I prefer newer commands
such as 'command' or 'type'.  (Yes I see that on debian which is now a
bash script instead of a csh script.  But this is not true everywhere.)

  type mozilla

  command -v mozilla

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Re: apache 2

2002-09-19 Thread Wayne Topa

daniel meier([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> is there a apache2 package already in debian "sarge"? couldn't find it. if
> yes, whats the name of the package?
> 

Not in sarge.  Its in unstable.  The names's are:

apache2-common - Next generation, scalable, extendable web server
apache2-dev - Development headers for apache2
apache2-doc - Documentation for apache2
apache2-mpm-perchild - Experimental High speed perchild/follower
threaded model for Apache2
apache2-mpm-prefork - Traditional model for Apache2
apache2-mpm-threadpool - Experimental High speed thread pool model for Apache2
apache2-mpm-worker - High speed threaded model for Apache2
libapache2-mod-webapp - Apache 2.0 connector for the Tomcat servlet engine


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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread DvB

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:

> DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-19 10:50:34 -0500]:
> > > > try running "which mozilla," minus the quotes and the comma from the
> > > > command line.
> 
> > I was merely following commonly accepted punctuation rules for American
> > English which state that, when a comma (or period) follows a quoted
> 
> Ah, but languages were switched.  You were no longer talking American
> English but Computer User.  When talking CU new rules are applied.  At
> that time all literal strings are quoted exactly with characters you
> wish the user to type.  :-)  


You're probably right. It's hard trying to balance being pretty anal
about spelling and grammar (when I actually know the correct
spelling/usage, that is :-) and being a nerd.


> I have taken to offsetting in a block
> quote format just to be explicit.  And it makes cut-n-paste easier.
> 
>   which mozilla
> 
> But instead of that old csh script 'which' I prefer newer commands
> such as 'command' or 'type'.  (Yes I see that on debian which is now a
> bash script instead of a csh script.  But this is not true everywhere.)
> 
>   type mozilla
> 
>   command -v mozilla


Those must be relatively new. I graduated from college pretty recently
and only learned

which mozilla

whereis mozilla

I've always known "type" as the DOS version of cat. I also never gave
much thought to how they were implemented before :-)


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Re: apt-build and Athlon question

2002-09-19 Thread Travis Crump

Joerg Johannes wrote:
> Hi everybody
> 
> I just installed apt-build and gcc3.2 to get some packages recompiled 
> Athlon-optimized. In the installation screen, it promts me for the processor 
> I am going to optimize for:
> athlon
> athlon-tbird
> athlon-4
> athlon-xp
> athlon-mp
> 
> How do I find out which one is mine? I know I don't have XP and MP, but the 
> others?
> 
> Here is my /proc/cpuinfo
> processor   : 0
> vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family  : 6
> model   : 4
> model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
> stepping: 2
> cpu MHz : 1200.080
> cache size  : 256 KB
> fdiv_bug: no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug: no
> coma_bug: no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp  : yes
> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
> pat pse36 mmx fxsr syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
> bogomips: 2392.06
> 
> Thanks
> joerg
> 
> 

That is identical to my /proc/cpuinfo and I have an athlon-tbird.  I 
know this by looking at the invoice that came with my processor. :)


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Re: No X after upgrade Potato -> Woody

2002-09-19 Thread Stephen Gran

This one time, at band camp, Erik van der Meulen said:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 12:39:13PM +0200, Adam Galant wrote:
> 
> > Try 'startx' instead of 'X'. 'X' runs onlu an X-server with no
> > clients which will give you exactly what you described. With
> > 'startx' you should get an X session with a windowmanager you
> > installed (there should be at least twm).
> 
> Thanks for your reaction! If I do 'startx' as root, I see the exact
> same 'fish bone' screen. If I do this as regular user, I see all these
> x lines in the console but it ends with 'waiting for x server to shut
> down'. After that, my .xsession-errors shows:
> 
>   x-window-manager:  unable to open fontset
>   "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120 -*-*-*-*-*-*"

This is a missing FontPath.  Check to make sure that you have a line in
your XF86Config-4 that points to your TrueType directory.  

> > Check also whether your window/desktopmanager is installed on your
> > system. Finally check for 'xdm', 'gdm', 'kdm', 'wdm' or
> > 'whatever-dm' for graphical login after boot.
> 
> I expect my system to have gnome, since it did just before I upgraded
> from Potato to Woody. In fact, it runs Ximian-Gnome (or 'did' I should
> say). gdm exists in /etc/init.d
> 
> Any further suggestions are tremendously appreciated!

It sounds like you used to have gdm as your login manager, so check to
make sure it's still installed - 'dpkg -l gdm' should return an ii
status.

The upgrade from potato to woody for X was fairly rough, in my memory.
Check to see if you have any X v.3 packages still installed.  A mix of
package versions made things fall over for me after an upgrade.  The
places to look for specific error messages are ~/.xsession-errors and
/var/log/XFree86.log - you should see something helpful in there.

HTH, 
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Re: dselect fails to install mozilla-browser after upgrade to woody

2002-09-19 Thread Levi Waldron

On September 18, 2002 07:57 pm, Jerome Acks Jr wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 12:17:31PM -0400, Levi Waldron wrote:
> > IOn September 17, 2002 08:41 pm, Jerome Acks Jr wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:39:03PM -0400, Levi Waldron wrote:

[snip]

> This list of depends should read:
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>=1.2.10-4),
> libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), xlibs (>> 4.1.0),
> zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), libnspr4 (= 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1), debconf (>= 1), psmisc
>
> If your list of depends came from /var/lib/dpkg/status, it looks
> like /var/lib/dpkg/status may be damaged.
>
> If the list is output of
> dpkg -I
> /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-browser_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb , I
> would guess the deb is damaged and needs to be downloaded again.
>
> What happens if you:
> # cd /var/cache/apt/archives
> # ls mozilla-browser*
> mozilla-browser_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb
> # dpkg -i mozilla-browser_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb

Sorry Jerome, I gave you a false lead.  The depends I listed were pasted out 
of dselect, and the missing ones were off the right-side of the screen so I 
couldn't see them.  Both dselect and dpkg -I give the same depends, which 
match the list you gave.  I tried the installation method you suggested 
directly on the deb file, with no luck:

cedar:/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg -i 
mozilla-browser_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 94392 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace mozilla-browser 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 (using 
mozilla-browser_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mozilla-browser ...
Setting up mozilla-browser (1.0.0-0.woody.1) ...
dpkg: error processing mozilla-browser (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 30
Errors were encountered while processing:
 mozilla-browser


Then just to give it a clean start I purged the mozilla components (but 
without deleting the deb file) then tried the same thing again:

cedar:/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg -i 
mozilla-browser_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package mozilla-browser.
(Reading database ... 93801 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking mozilla-browser (from mozilla-browser_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) 
...
Setting up mozilla-browser (1.0.0-0.woody.1) ...
dpkg: error processing mozilla-browser (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 128
Errors were encountered while processing:
 mozilla-browser


Different exit status, but same result.  Just to give the install a *really* 
clean start, I used apt-get to remove mozilla-browser, then updatedb and 
locate to go about removing all files with mozilla in their name on my hard 
drive.  Here's the output:

cedar:/usr/local# apt-get remove mozilla-browser
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  mozilla-browser
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 25.7MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
(Reading database ... 94329 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing mozilla-browser ...
dpkg - warning: while removing mozilla-browser, directory 
`/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome' not empty so not removed.

cedar:/usr/lib/mozilla# rm -rf /usr/lib/mozilla

(insert widespread deleting of mozilla files here)

cedar:/usr/lib# updatedb &
cedar:/usr/lib# locate mozilla
/usr/share/gnome/help/nautilus-release-notes/C/mozilla.html
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/mozilla.png
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mozilla-browser.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mozilla-browser.postrm
/var/lib/enlightenment/debian_apps_net_mozilla_components.menu


So with only these files with 'mozilla' anywhere in their name, I tried to 
install again, but still no luck:

cedar:/usr/lib# apt-get install mozilla-browser
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  mozilla-browser
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
Need to get 9794kB of archives. After unpacking 25.7MB will be used.
Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla-browser 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 
[9794kB]
Fetched 9794kB in 20s (478kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
mozilla-browser failed to preconfigure, with exit status 128
Selecting previously deselected package mozilla-browser.
(Reading database ... 93802 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking mozilla-browser (from 
.../mozilla-browser_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up mozilla-browser (1.0.0-0.woody.1) ...
dpkg: error processing mozilla-browser (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 30
Errors were encountered while processing:
 mozilla-browser
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
cedar:/usr/lib#


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using kernel-image-2.4.18-686, how to get rid of 5 seconds to enter shell at boot message?

2002-09-19 Thread Walter Tautz

just curious since it allows anyone to get a root shell with getting prompted
for a root passwd. 

Also if one hits enter and then exit it fails to mount the root fs, VFS error
occurs. NOTE this does not happen if the kernel is allowed to boot normally.

walter


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Re: Ad removing proxies

2002-09-19 Thread Art

I've been using privoxy for some time with good success.  I
can't comment on the others.

Art


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Re: Woody: What's the proper name of the C++ lib?

2002-09-19 Thread Holger Rauch

Hi Colin!

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

> [...] 
> I was assuming that it was possible to trigger the error with a single
> file. 

I did some further investigation and it is finally possible for me to
reproduce the error with only two C++ file which are however linked
against various static and shared libs. Moreover, I added
"-Wl,--verbose" to the CFLAGS to get verbose output from the linker. The
call for linking the program is as follows (you can ignore the
"-D" flags; they are only used to disable some parts in the sources):

g++ -Wall -DNOT_ARCHIV_ASYNC -DNOT_BATCH_SERVER -DNOT_EXT_SERVER
-DNOT_DOCUMENT_SERVER -DNOT_ADMIN_SERVER -DNOT_CONFIG_SERVER
-DNOT_CLIENT_SERVER -DNOT_CONVERT_SERVER -Wl,--verbose -g -o
debug/SaraAppS debug/SARAAppServer.o debug/SARABaseServer.o
-L../servframe/ -lservframe -L../saradb/lib/ -lsaradbD -L../transsrv/
-lsocklib -L../servframe/wrapper -lstuff -lncurses -lpthread

Of these libs, the following are static ones (.a files):

- servframe
- saradbD
- socklib
- stuff

The others (ncurses, pthread) are shared ones:

>From ld's verbose output I conclude that these libs are found
(unsuccessful tries to look for the corresponding lib omitted in
order to keep the output as concise as possible).

[...]
SEARCH_DIR(/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/usr/local/lib);
SEARCH_DIR(/usr/i386-linux/lib);
[...]
attempt to open /usr/lib/crt1.o succeeded
/usr/lib/crt1.o
attempt to open /usr/lib/crti.o succeeded
/usr/lib/crti.o
attempt to open /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/crtbegin.o succeeded
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/crtbegin.o
attempt to open debug/SARAAppServer.o succeeded
debug/SARAAppServer.o
attempt to open debug/SARABaseServer.o succeeded
debug/SARABaseServer.o
[]
attempt to open ../servframe//libservframe.a succeeded
[...]
[]
attempt to open ../servframe//libservframe.a succeeded
[]
attempt to open ../transsrv//libsocklib.a succeeded
[]
attempt to open ../servframe/wrapper/libstuff.a succeeded
[]
attempt to open /usr/lib/libncurses.so succeeded
-lncurses (/usr/lib/libncurses.so)
[]
attempt to open /usr/lib/libpthread.so succeeded
-lpthread (/usr/lib/libpthread.so)
[]
attempt to open /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/libstdc++.so succeeded
-lstdc++ (/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/libstdc++.so)
[]
attempt to open /usr/lib/libm.so succeeded
-lm (/usr/lib/libm.so)
[]
attempt to open /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/libgcc.a succeeded
(/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/libgcc.a)_eprintf.o
(/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/libgcc.a)_pure.o

Now comes the interesting part ;-)

When trying the various paths to find libc, in the middle of the failures,
the error message is printed. Strangely enough, the linker seems to
continue to open all required libs (and even finds them!) before it exits:

[]
attempt to open ../servframe//libc.so failed
attempt to open ../servframe//libc.a failed
attempt to open ../saradb/lib//libc.so failed
attempt to open ../saradb/lib//libc.a failed
attempt to open ../transsrv//libc.so failed
attempt to open ../transsrv//libc.a failed
attempt to open ../servframe/wrapper/libc/usr/bin/ld: BFD 2.12.90.0.1
20020307 Debian/GNU Linux internal error, aborting at
../../bfd/elf32-i386.c line 1887 in elf_i386_relocate_section

/usr/bin/ld: Please report this bug.

.so failed
[]
opened script file /usr/lib/libc.so
attempt to open /lib/libc.so.6 succeeded
/lib/libc.so.6
attempt to open /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a succeeded
(/usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a)atexit.oS
[]
attempt to open /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/libgcc.a succeeded
attempt to open /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/crtend.o succeeded
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/crtend.o
attempt to open /usr/lib/crtn.o succeeded
/usr/lib/crtn.o
ld-linux.so.2 needed by /lib/libc.so.6
found ld-linux.so.2 at /lib/ld-linux.so.2
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [debug/SaraAppS.exe] Error 1

Is it perhaps the order of the libs that is wrong? I didn't run
"ranlib" on the static libs. Could it be possible that this makes a
difference?

Now I'm not sure how to report this bug and which information to
supply. Is is better to

a) contact the maintainer directly
b) use the Debian bug tracking system

In case it's b) which information should I include? Just the two
preprocessed C++ files and the verbose output of the linker or also the
static libs?

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Kind regards,

Holger




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Re: Just a tip for you zip100 users

2002-09-19 Thread John Manko

>
>
>>Now, maybe someone can help me get Abiword to run, hehe.
>>
>>

No, it did not work.  
I'm working on it though.



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Re: apt-build and Athlon question

2002-09-19 Thread Johannes Jörg

Thanks, Travis.
I can't look at anything written, I would have to take down the cooler and
reassemble my computer... better not. I don't want to destroy my processor.

joerg

T.C. wrote
> 
> That is identical to my /proc/cpuinfo and I have an athlon-tbird.  I 
> know this by looking at the invoice that came with my processor. :)
> 

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