Re: problem with sound card from a newbie

[Kent West]

Andy wrote:

>I have the same problem and followed your directions exactly.
>I even upped my kernel from 2.2.20 to 2.4.18 and included the Intel
>sound option into the kernel but having same problems.
>On bootup I get the following message:
>Sound Server Message: Error while starting driver: device /dev/dsp can't be 
>opened. (no such device).
>I have done chmod 777 on /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 2 and 3 added myself to audio 
>group.  Here is my lsmod and lspci:
>
>debian:/home/andy# lspci
>00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX I/O Controller (rev 01)
>00:00.1 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX AC'97 Audio 
>Controller
>00:02.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller 
>(rev 01)
>00:03.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 0c)
>
>debian:/home/andy# lsmod
>Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
>eepro100   17680   1
>
>Can someone help?  I really miss my music.  :-(
>
>  
>

Run "modconf" and see if there's a module available for the 82440MX. 
You'll either need such a module loaded (lsmod shows only the ethernet 
nic module loaded), or you'll need support for that chipset compiled 
directly into the kernel (which would probably only be the case if 
you've compiled your own kernel and included that support, which you 
seem to indicate that you've done). If the kernel sources or modules 
don't work properly, you may need to use an "outside" driver, such as 
the alsa drivers. I had to do this for my onboard AC'97 chipset (via8233).

Kent




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Re: resize partitions using parted

[Andy Saxena]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 10:53:03AM -0400, John F Davis wrote:
> Hello
> 
> Anybody ever try to resize partitions using parted? Did it work ok?
> 

Used it. Loved it. Broke it :-}. Read the docs and only use it as it
says. Heed the warnings about meddling with the root partition.

> I have a box which was setup with one large root partition and no /boot
> partition.  It was
> just supposed to be a test install, but it has grown into a working box and
> I would
> rather "fix" it to use multiple partitions than re-install it at this
> point.

If it ain't broke, why fix it? I had a system that ran fine for 3 years,
going from potato to woody to sid as I gradually moved towards a desktop
Debian. 

Things looked just so good, I had to meddle with it and "optimize" the
partitions. I broke my system! I had to do a complete reinstall.

> 
> Also, I see there is a tool called resize2fs, but I don't think that is
> what I want to use
> becuase I want to go from 1 partition to multiple partitions.  Furthermore,
> I
> want to insert a /boot partition into the beginning of the disk.

I don't know anything about resize2fs, However, meddling with the root
partition will likely get you into a whole lot of trouble.

By the way, good backups will alleviate any suffering from realizing
your stupidity if you hose your system :-}.

-Andy


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Re: pine binaries

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello All
>
> At http://www.braincells.com/open/ I notice that there
> are binaries for sid and potato but not for woody. Does
> anyone know where I could get binaries for woody or does
> one have to compile pine.
>

The sid ones should work without problems but if you don't mind waiting a
while, pine 4.50 will be out any day now.  When I debianize that, I'll
make packages especially for woody.

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Re: Conv. from STATIC to DHCP ... proxy!

[Emil Hägerlund]

OK and thanks!

Re: Proxy information is generally stored by each program individually.
Re: That means if you use, e.g., Mozilla for X and lynx for console, you'll
Re: need to set the proxy information in each.  Each should give you a
Re: dotfile or dotdirectory where thee changes ...

But what about apt-get?! This one I really need.

Yours
:-)
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Re: problem with sound card from a newbie

[Andy]

I have the same problem and followed your directions exactly.
I even upped my kernel from 2.2.20 to 2.4.18 and included the Intel
sound option into the kernel but having same problems.
On bootup I get the following message:
Sound Server Message: Error while starting driver: device /dev/dsp can't be 
opened. (no such device).
I have done chmod 777 on /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 2 and 3 added myself to audio 
group.  Here is my lsmod and lspci:

debian:/home/andy# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX I/O Controller (rev 01)
00:00.1 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX AC'97 Audio 
Controller
00:02.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller 
(rev 01)
00:03.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 0c)

debian:/home/andy# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
eepro100   17680   1

Can someone help?  I really miss my music.  :-(




> I would suggest reducing your system to a simpler configuration by
> killing X for testing purposes, because KDE and Gnome have sound daemons
> which can "get in the way". Just logging out of X should be sufficient,
> although you could also kill your session-manager if you have one
> running (something like "/etc/init.d/kdm stop").
>
> Then make sure you have a console-mode sound player (apt-get install
> splay).
>
> Now try playing an ogg (or if you must, .mp3) file like so: splay
> myrockingtune.ogg
>
> What are the results?
>
> You might need to run a mixer (like alsamixer or amixer) to unmute the
> audio or to up the volume.
>
> Also, you'll need to be in the audio group (just type "groups" to see
> what groups you're in; to add yourself to audio, as root type "addgroup
> your_user_name audio").
>
> You can also check out the results of "lspci" to make sure Linux agrees
> with you as to what sound card you have.
>
> Also "lsmod" will show you the loaded modules.
>
> Hopefully these tidbits will help get you a little further along.
>
> Kent


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Re: Need help with Bind

[nate]

Debian User said:
> Hi everyone,  I have been pulling hair on this one.
>
> I got bind set up, nslookup resolves all domains and records just fine,
> but when trying to register my domains to my server, I get error
> messages from the domain registrars that my dns server is invalid or
> something..

the only way I'm aware of to manually register a domain name server
is here:
http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/makechanges/itts/host


register.com will add/remove a nameserver as well but you have
to be a register.com customer and must contact customer service
to do so(their website says theres a way to do it online but
every attempt I made has failed since the forms are not available).

other registrars may do it too but you may have to contact them.

nate



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Re: Centralized user-database: LDAP vs. KerberosV5 vs. AFS

[D. Joe Anderson]

On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 10:20:02AM +0930, Tom Cook wrote:
> 
> I don't know about AFS (what is it?)
> 

see http://www.openafs.org

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Re: wheel mouse

[Mirek Dobsicek]

Solved,

Only the ZAxisMapping option was missing. Imwheel is not needed. Thank 
you all very much.


Mirek


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Need help with Bind

[Debian User]

Hi everyone,  I have been pulling hair on this one.

I got bind set up, nslookup resolves all domains and records just fine, 
but when trying to register my domains to my server, I get error 
messages from the domain registrars that my dns server is invalid or 
something..

Another problem is that when I search the nsiregestry or opensrs 
regestries for my dns server it shows nothing.

I have heard and read that you need to register your server with these 
regestries to allow a domain name change to a new dns server, but how is 
this done, for I have searched up and down verio.net tucows opensrs, 
nsiregestry.net, plus a few others, and have found no ways of entering 
my new dns server.

A link to this would be great, it seems I wouldn't be the only one with 
these troubles.

Thanks

-du


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Re: problem with sound card from a newbie

[Claudio Bley]

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 08:14, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >>"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> while installing, in the section of device driver modules, i
> >> have included i810. it also selected some yamaha ac97 and
> >> reported it to be a success.
> >
> >> now, my system boots up and as a user i can log into
> >> it. however, none of the sound files can play. kde's control
> >> panel shows that there is no sound card.
> >
> >You probably have to add yourself to the "audio" group.
> >
> >as root:
> >
> ># adduser  audio
> >
> >Then log out and then log back in.
> >
> oh well - tried this also. in fact, logged in as root and tried to play 
> music - still it wont.

What's the error message? What does 'dmesg | tail' say?

In case there's no error message most likely the channels of your sound
device are just tuned to a low volume or are muted.

Run a mixer application (aumix is good) and turn up the volume and
unmute the appropriate channels.

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Re: Dangerous to have ~/bin first in $PATH [was Re: Odd Path issue]

[Andy Saxena]

On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 08:27:23AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> I disagree that this is a security risk. I want to override
> system-provided executables, hence ~/bin is at the start of my $PATH. If
> my user account gets hacked into, all bets are off; it's pointless to
> worry about what somebody might put in ~/bin when they could just do
> whatever it was directly, modify my .bashrc, or whatever!
> 
> I think a more sensible rule is to only put directories in $PATH that
> are at least as trusted as the relevant account. Thus, /usr/bin and so
> on are always fine, ~/bin is only fine for the owning user, and . is
> never a good idea.


My mistake - I mixed up ~/bin with . . Thanks for the correction.

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Re: problem with sound card from a newbie

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>
>
>> i have been using windows for quite some time now and am
>> contemplating to shift to linux. so i am a 'newbie' to linux -
>> in short. i recently installed debian 3.0 on my compaq making it
>> a dual boot machine. it is a piii 766mhz machine with on board
>> sound card.
>
>> while installing, in the section of device driver modules, i
>> have included i810. it also selected some yamaha ac97 and
>> reported it to be a success.
>
>> now, my system boots up and as a user i can log into
>> it. however, none of the sound files can play. kde's control
>> panel shows that there is no sound card.
>
>You probably have to add yourself to the "audio" group.
>
>as root:
>
># adduser  audio
>
>Then log out and then log back in.
>
>See if that helps.  If not, come back for more.
>
>Good luck.
>
>Marshal
>
>> i do not know what to do now. stuck - in a way. looking forward
>> to some help. something that will be step by step and simple for
>> even a layman like me.
>
>> thanx in advance
>
>> sandip
>
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>
>  
>
oh well - tried this also. in fact, logged in as root and tried to play 
music - still it wont.

any suggestions on this?

thanx again

- sandip


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Re: KDE2 helloworld.cpp

[Brian Nelson]

Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Brian Nelson wrote:
>
>> Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > No, it's not worth it.  I was just looking at the g++ man page that
>> > lists .cc and .cxx but not .cpp.
>> 
>> Huh?  I see:
>> 
>>   C++ source files use one of the suffixes `.C', `.cc', `.cxx', `.cpp',
>>   or `.c++'; preprocessed C++ files use the suffix `.ii'.
>
> Your quote matches the man page for g++ 2.95. However, the man page for
> g++ 3.2 does not mention .cpp. (I would say it should, since it's not at
> all an uncommon extension for C++ sources.) It also does not mention .c++.

g++-3.2 doesn't have the proper manpage, at least on my system.

http://bugs.debian.org/162843

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Re: pine compilation woes

[Claudio Bley]

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 06:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 5. Based on info in http://www.braincells.com/debian/sid/pine/ made sure
>that I had the following:
> 
>libc-client-ssl2001, 
>libldap2, 
>libncurses5, 
>libpam0g, 
>libssl0.9.6 and 
>mime-support

Just run 'apt-get build-dep pine'. This should install the necessary
packages. The packages above are needed for the binary version, but when
you want to build it yourself you need the appropriate -dev packages too
(such as libssl-dev).

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Re: KDE2 helloworld.cpp

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On  0, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Monday 30 September 2002 19:04, Tom Cook wrote:
> >> > #include 
> >> > #include 
> >> > #include 
> >> >
> >> > then you should be able to compile with:
> >> >
> >> > g++ -c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp
> >> >
> >> > Note also that the usual (proper?) way of naming C++ source is *.cc or
> >> > *.cxx, not *.cpp like M$ do.
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> 
> >> actually cpp is a valid and common extension.  In fact both qt and kde use it
>  
> >> for their own projects.  I happen to use .cc but no use getting into a naming
>  
> >> scuffle.
> >
> > No, it's not worth it.  I was just looking at the g++ man page that
> > lists .cc and .cxx but not .cpp.
> 
> Huh?  I see:
> 
>   C++ source files use one of the suffixes `.C', `.cc', `.cxx', `.cpp',
>   or `.c++'; preprocessed C++ files use the suffix `.ii'.

Alright, alright, I was wrong, badly wrong.  It says that in my man
page, too.  I was looking at the FILES section, where it lists only
.C, .cc and .cxx.

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Re: KDE2 helloworld.cpp

[Craig Dickson]

Brian Nelson wrote:

> Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > No, it's not worth it.  I was just looking at the g++ man page that
> > lists .cc and .cxx but not .cpp.
> 
> Huh?  I see:
> 
>   C++ source files use one of the suffixes `.C', `.cc', `.cxx', `.cpp',
>   or `.c++'; preprocessed C++ files use the suffix `.ii'.

Your quote matches the man page for g++ 2.95. However, the man page for
g++ 3.2 does not mention .cpp. (I would say it should, since it's not at
all an uncommon extension for C++ sources.) It also does not mention .c++.

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Re: pine compilation woes

[nate]

> Hello
>
>   libc-client-ssl2001,
>   libldap2,
>   libncurses5,
>   libpam0g,
>   libssl0.9.6 and
>   mime-support

> # osdep.c:197: x509.h: No such file or directory
> # osdep.c:198: ssl.h: No such file or directory
> # osdep.c:200: pem.h: No such file or directory
> # osdep.c:201: buffer.h: No such file or directory
> # osdep.c:202: bio.h: No such file or directory
> # osdep.c:203: crypto.h: No such file or directory
> # osdep.c:204: rand.h: No such file or directory

> This is the first time that I have tried to compile a debian package from

you need the -dev versions of the packages, e.g. for pam
you'd need libpam0g-dev

same for most of the rest.

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Re: KDE2 helloworld.cpp

[Brian Nelson]

Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On  0, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Monday 30 September 2002 19:04, Tom Cook wrote:
>> > #include 
>> > #include 
>> > #include 
>> >
>> > then you should be able to compile with:
>> >
>> > g++ -c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp
>> >
>> > Note also that the usual (proper?) way of naming C++ source is *.cc or
>> > *.cxx, not *.cpp like M$ do.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> 
>> actually cpp is a valid and common extension.  In fact both qt and kde use it 
>> for their own projects.  I happen to use .cc but no use getting into a naming 
>> scuffle.
>
> No, it's not worth it.  I was just looking at the g++ man page that
> lists .cc and .cxx but not .cpp.

Huh?  I see:

  C++ source files use one of the suffixes `.C', `.cc', `.cxx', `.cpp',
  or `.c++'; preprocessed C++ files use the suffix `.ii'.

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Re: deb command - which package?

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Lars Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which .deb package do I need to install to get the deb command?

I don't know, but

http://packages.debian.org/

does, as does apt-file search /usr/bin/deb, most likely.

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deb command - which package?

[Lars Jensen]

Which .deb package do I need to install to get the deb command?

Thanks,
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Re: problem with sound card from a newbie

[Kent West]

Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:

> i have been using windows for quite some time now and am contemplating 
> to shift to linux. so i am a 'newbie' to linux - in short. i recently 
> installed debian 3.0 on my compaq making it a dual boot machine. it is 
> a piii 766mhz machine with on board sound card.
>
> while installing, in the section of device driver modules, i have 
> included i810. it also selected some yamaha ac97 and reported it to be 
> a success.
>
> now, my system boots up and as a user i can log into it. however, none 
> of the sound files can play. kde's control panel shows that there is 
> no sound card.
>
> i do not know what to do now. stuck - in a way. looking forward to 
> some help. something that will be step by step and simple for even a 
> layman like me.
>
> thanx in advance
>
> sandip
>
>
I would suggest reducing your system to a simpler configuration by 
killing X for testing purposes, because KDE and Gnome have sound daemons 
which can "get in the way". Just logging out of X should be sufficient, 
although you could also kill your session-manager if you have one 
running (something like "/etc/init.d/kdm stop").

Then make sure you have a console-mode sound player (apt-get install splay).

Now try playing an ogg (or if you must, .mp3) file like so: splay 
myrockingtune.ogg

What are the results?

You might need to run a mixer (like alsamixer or amixer) to unmute the 
audio or to up the volume.

Also, you'll need to be in the audio group (just type "groups" to see 
what groups you're in; to add yourself to audio, as root type "addgroup 
your_user_name audio").

You can also check out the results of "lspci" to make sure Linux agrees 
with you as to what sound card you have.

Also "lsmod" will show you the loaded modules.

Hopefully these tidbits will help get you a little further along.

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Re: problem with sound card from a newbie

[marshal]

> "Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i have been using windows for quite some time now and am
> contemplating to shift to linux. so i am a 'newbie' to linux -
> in short. i recently installed debian 3.0 on my compaq making it
> a dual boot machine. it is a piii 766mhz machine with on board
> sound card.

> while installing, in the section of device driver modules, i
> have included i810. it also selected some yamaha ac97 and
> reported it to be a success.

> now, my system boots up and as a user i can log into
> it. however, none of the sound files can play. kde's control
> panel shows that there is no sound card.

You probably have to add yourself to the "audio" group.

as root:

# adduser  audio

Then log out and then log back in.

See if that helps.  If not, come back for more.

Good luck.

Marshal

> i do not know what to do now. stuck - in a way. looking forward
> to some help. something that will be step by step and simple for
> even a layman like me.

> thanx in advance

> sandip


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problem with sound card from a newbie

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

i have been using windows for quite some time now and am contemplating 
to shift to linux. so i am a 'newbie' to linux - in short. i recently 
installed debian 3.0 on my compaq making it a dual boot machine. it is a 
piii 766mhz machine with on board sound card.

while installing, in the section of device driver modules, i have 
included i810. it also selected some yamaha ac97 and reported it to be a 
success.

now, my system boots up and as a user i can log into it. however, none 
of the sound files can play. kde's control panel shows that there is no 
sound card.

i do not know what to do now. stuck - in a way. looking forward to some 
help. something that will be step by step and simple for even a layman 
like me.

thanx in advance

sandip


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Re: New install and 2.4 kernel?

[Bob Nielsen]

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 05:50:35AM +0200, Jonas Hallgren wrote:
> Hi!
>  
> I have used poptato with a 2.2 kernel for some time and now decided I
> wanted to upgrade to 3.0 with a 2.4 kernel.
> For som reason I thought that 2.4 was default in 3.0 but I found that it
> was 2.2.20. 
>  
> Does anybody know if there are any installation floppies out there with
> the kernel 2.4 already on them or do I have
> to install the 2.2.20 and then upgrade recompile the kernel?


The bf2.4 installation floppies have the 2.4.18 kernel.


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pine compilation woes

[irvine]

Hello

Having problems compiling pine. I am a mutt user myself but
I installed debian woody on a friends computer and he insists that
he wants to use pine.

I decided to practise on my home machine first and did the
following.

1. Create a directory /usr/src/pine

2. Changed to that directory

3. Add deb-src ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ woody main contrib non-free
   to my sources.list file

4. apt-get source pine

5. Based on info in http://www.braincells.com/debian/sid/pine/ made sure
   that I had the following:

   libc-client-ssl2001, 
   libldap2, 
   libncurses5, 
   libpam0g, 
   libssl0.9.6 and 
   mime-support

   and installed those that I didn't.

   apt also installed mlock.

6. Changed to the directory /usr/src/pine/pine-4.44

7. Executed debian/rules build and got the following errors:

# Building with SSL
# ln -s ssl_unix.c osdepssl.c
# echo -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/openssl -DSSL_CERT_DIRECTORY=\"/etc/ssl/certs
# \" >> OSCFLAGS
# echo "  ssl_onceonlyinit ();" >> linkage.c
# echo -L/usr/lib -lssl -lcrypto  >> LDFLAGS
# cat osdepbas.c osdepckp.c osdeplog.c osdepssl.c > osdep.c
# `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mail.c
# `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` misc.c
# `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` newsrc.c
# `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smanager.c
# `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` `cat OSCFLAGS` -c osdep.c
# osdep.c:197: x509.h: No such file or directory
# osdep.c:198: ssl.h: No such file or directory
# osdep.c:200: pem.h: No such file or directory
# osdep.c:201: buffer.h: No such file or directory
# osdep.c:202: bio.h: No such file or directory
# osdep.c:203: crypto.h: No such file or directory
# osdep.c:204: rand.h: No such file or directory
# make[4]: *** [osdep.o] Error 1
# make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine/pine-4.44/imap/c-client'
# make[3]: *** [slx] Error 2
# make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine/pine-4.44/imap/c-client'
# make[2]: *** [OSTYPE] Error 2
# make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine/pine-4.44/imap'
# make[1]: *** [slx] Error 2
# make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine/pine-4.44/imap'
# make: *** [build-all] Error 2


This is the first time that I have tried to compile a debian package
from source and I am just wondering how to troubleshoot this problem.
Also I am interested in how one resolves dependency issues with source
packages. Is there some files that I need to read before compiling/
building source packages.

I am off to work soon and will return in about 9 hours or so to continue,
so forgive me if I don't reply to replies quickly.

t.irvine

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Re: KDE2 helloworld.cpp

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 30 September 2002 19:04, Tom Cook wrote:
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> >
> > then you should be able to compile with:
> >
> > g++ -c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp
> >
> > Note also that the usual (proper?) way of naming C++ source is *.cc or
> > *.cxx, not *.cpp like M$ do.
> >
> > Tom
> 
> actually cpp is a valid and common extension.  In fact both qt and kde use it 
> for their own projects.  I happen to use .cc but no use getting into a naming 
> scuffle.

No, it's not worth it.  I was just looking at the g++ man page that
lists .cc and .cxx but not .cpp.

Regards
Tom
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Re: Unattended installation...

[Joey Hess]

Bruno BEAUFILS wrote:
> Configuration file `/etc/emacs/site-start.d/50tramp.el'
>  ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
>  ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
>What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
> Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
> N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
>   D : show the differences between the versions
>   Z : background this process to examine the situation
>  The default action is to keep your current version.
> *** 50tramp.el (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
> 
> How may I prevent apt-get to ask me those questions ?

Set Dpkg::Options {"--force-confold";} in /etc/apt/apt.conf

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Re: New install and 2.4 kernel?

[Arun Bhanu]

Title: Message



If you're installing from a CD-ROM hit F3 when the 
boot: prompt comes up. It shows the different flavours of kernel available for 
installation. Choose bf24 for installing woody with a 2.4 kernel.
 
HTH
 
Arun.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jonas Hallgren 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 11:50 
  AM
  Subject: New install and 2.4 
kernel?
  
  Hi!
   
  I have used 
  poptato with a 2.2 kernel for some time and now decided I wanted to upgrade to 
  3.0 with a 2.4 kernel.
  For som reason I 
  thought that 2.4 was default in 3.0 but I found that it was 2.2.20. 
  
   
  Does anybody know 
  if there are any installation floppies out there with the kernel 2.4 already 
  on them or do I have
  to install the 
  2.2.20 and then upgrade recompile the kernel?
   
  Regards,
   
  Jonas H, Debian 
  newbie

Re: lv vs. more as PAGER

[James D Strandboge]

On Sun, 2002-09-29 at 22:42, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sat, Sep 28, 2002, James D Strandboge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I like when using 'more' as the pager, manpages aren't cleared from the
> > screen after quitting man.  Can lv do this as well?  Haven't been able
> > to find anything.
> 
> Note:  lv is a pager capable of displaying multilingual streams.  Some
> people may not be familiar with it.
> 
> The screen-clearing behavior of man is configurable when using less as a
> pager.  I'd suspect it's also tunable using less (see the '-X' option).
> I'd look at the lv manpage for a similar option.
> 
> Peace.
> 

Thanks for your tip.  I used less and it worked great, but thought the
lv people shouldn't be left out so I made a patch for lv which created
the '-X' option, and I sent to the debian maintainer and the author. 
Hopefully it can be included in a future release.

Jamie Strandboge


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Re: New install and 2.4 kernel?

[Bob Proulx]

Jonas Hallgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-01 05:50:35 +0200]:
> I have used poptato with a 2.2 kernel for some time and now decided I
> wanted to upgrade to 3.0 with a 2.4 kernel.
> For som reason I thought that 2.4 was default in 3.0 but I found that it
> was 2.2.20. 

The 2.2 kernel was the best kernel at the time woody was feature
frozen for it.  But by the time it released that was a another matter.

> Does anybody know if there are any installation floppies out there with
> the kernel 2.4 already on them or do I have
> to install the 2.2.20 and then upgrade recompile the kernel?

You say floppy and I have never installed from floppy.  But the CDROM
release image 3.0r0 "Woody" has a 'bf24' boot image which is the
boot-floppies 2.4.18 kernel image.  Press F3(?) at the boot prompt to
get a listing and then bf24 to boot.  If you just hit enter then you
get 2.2.20.  Also available are other 2.4 images too.

HTH
Bob



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Re: Unattended installation...

[Bob Proulx]

Bruno BEAUFILS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-01 03:19:27 +0200]:
> I am trying to do some unattended installation of debian boxes using
> apt-get.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2000/debian-boot-29/msg00310.html

I prefer systemimager myself.

Bob



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New install and 2.4 kernel?

[Jonas Hallgren]

Title: Message



Hi!
 
I have used poptato 
with a 2.2 kernel for some time and now decided I wanted to upgrade to 3.0 with 
a 2.4 kernel.
For som reason I 
thought that 2.4 was default in 3.0 but I found that it was 2.2.20. 

 
Does anybody know if 
there are any installation floppies out there with the kernel 2.4 already on 
them or do I have
to install the 
2.2.20 and then upgrade recompile the kernel?
 
Regards,
 
Jonas H, Debian 
newbie

Re: SOLVED: How to use apostrophe in bash shell script?

[Bob Proulx]

Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-30 20:51:17 -0500]:
> Thanks to Nate's help, I found the problem. I had another line above
> this one with a similar echo'd line that had an
> apostrophe. Apparently bash was interpreting everything between the
> two apostrophe's as a string, which explains some other odd
> behaviour I was seeing, but had put on the back burner to deal with
> this easier problem first.

Both "string" and 'string' delimit strings.  But there is a small
difference.  Double quotes expands variables while single-quotes do
not.

  echo "$$"
  24660
  echo '$$'
  $$

BTW $$ is the shell's process id number.  I could have used any
variable such as $RANDOM or but $$ seemed easy for a self-contained
example.  Also, `command` $(command) are also expanded in "string" but
not in 'string'.

Bob



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Re: wheel mouse

[Bob Proulx]

Mirek Dobsicek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-30 23:40:43 +0200]:
> > did you install the imwheel package?
> yes, I did.

I think that if you follow the other suggestions for ImPS2 and button
mapping for 4 5 that you will get your mouse to work.  You said
optical and only HP/Agilent makes the internals for those so I expect
them all to be the same regardless of who OEM'd it and put their label
on it.  At that time you might find that imwheel is getting in your
way.  Which is exactly the route I took myself when doing the same
thing you are now doing.

The imwheel package is to interpret mouse events and map them into
something else.  For example, older netscape does not know about
button 4 and 5 and therefore does not handle wheel mouse.  The imwheel
program will translate button 4/5 (wheel) into page-up/page-down keys
which the program does know about.

But it only caused be trouble since Mozilla, Galeon, Konqueror, xterm,
etc. all understand the mouse.  There is a imwheel configuration file
which you should be able to configure to pass through to some programs
but not others but I would never get it set right.  Therefore I
removed imwheel and can't recommend it unless you have a special need
for it such as an obsolete program with no understandings of button
4/5 (wheel) events.

Bob



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Security: Nessus Tiger config examples...

[Abdul Latip]

Hi:

I have just installed "tiger" and "nessus", after reading 
the "securing-debian-howto" document. I have also visited
/usr/share/doc as well as http://www.nessus.org/

May I know where to get recent config examples?


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Re: Linux-native ROM?

[Bob Proulx]

DSC Siltec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-30 09:06:48 +0200]:
> Suppose I wanted to make a computer that was completely and 
> automatically native to Linux, such that it automatically booted
> into Linux, nice and quickly.  What would the best way of doing
> this be?

Check out KNOPPIX!

  http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

When I first booted the cdrom image I was completely blown away!  It
correctly detected my network card and DHCP'd, sound card and set up
sound, and graphics card and started up X11 at 1280x1024.  It started
KDE 3.0 and autologged in a generic user.  I could play music and was
connected to the network.  All as a single CDROM boot without a hard
drive.

A great 'boot on your friends computer' or the local library public
access terminal disk.  It also features gratuitous audio and very
colorful flashy splash screens.  As Joe Bob Briggs would say, the
drive-in totals were networking, sound, X11, KDE3.0, a few free ogg
files with good tunes, check it out, five stars.

YMMV.  I have very generic hardware.  I have tried this on one machine
with wierd hardware out of five so far that did not boot well with it.
But four out of five did wonderfully.  One of the five that did great
was an old laptop with bad obsolete hardware that always gives me
trouble but worked fine.  The key here is to have enough ram that the
ramdisk is large enough to give the system sufficient performance over
the CDROM speed.

And btw it does not have to be a cdrom based system.  You could run
the image from a hard drive.  The Knoppix FAQ lists hists which should
be sufficient to install the image on a hard drive.

Bob



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Re: KDE@ helloworld.cpp

[Shawn Lamson]

I had a similar problem but following the steps on this site i was able
to compile and run it.

http://linux-sxs.org/qtinstall.html


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Re: KDE2 helloworld.cpp

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On Monday 30 September 2002 19:04, Tom Cook wrote:
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
>
> then you should be able to compile with:
>
> g++ -c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp
>
> Note also that the usual (proper?) way of naming C++ source is *.cc or
> *.cxx, not *.cpp like M$ do.
>
> Tom

actually cpp is a valid and common extension.  In fact both qt and kde use it 
for their own projects.  I happen to use .cc but no use getting into a naming 
scuffle.


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Re: JDK: Okay, this used to work

[Carl Fink]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 10:15:23PM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote:

> I believe you need to drop the ".class".

Color me stupid.  I should have remembered that.  (I haven't thought about
Java for a couple years, but even so.)

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Procmail for local delivery

[Andy Saxena]

Hi,

I am trying to use procmail for local delivery. My setup consists of
exim and cyrus from sid.

Calling the localuser director before procmail I am easily able to
deliver local email to myself. However, if I call the procmail
director before localuser, the delivery fails.

Shown below are the relevant entries from exim.conf, .procmailrc and
.maillog files. Could somebody point out the mistake I am making, or
share how they are using exim+procmail to make local delivery of mail.

Thanks.
-Andy

---exim.conf (begin)---
#TRANSPORTS
local_delivery:
  driver = pipe
  command = /usr/sbin/cyrdeliver ${local_part}
  return_path_add = true
  return_output
  prefix = ""
  user = cyrus

procmail_pipe:
  driver = pipe
  command = "/usr/bin/procmail"
  return_path_add
  delivery_date_add
  envelope_to_add
# check_string = "From "
# escape_string = ">From "
  suffix = ""

#DIRECTORS

localuser:
  driver = localuser
  transport = local_delivery

procmail:
  driver = localuser
  transport = procmail_pipe
  require_files = ${local_part}:+${home}:+${home}/.procmailrc:+/usr/bin/procmail
  no_verify

--exim.conf (end)--


---~/.procmailrc (end)--

SHELL="/bin/sh"
DELIVERMAIL="/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver"
LOGFILE="$HOME/.maillog"
IMAP="$DELIVERMAIL -a andy -q -m andy"
LOGABSTRACT="all"
VERBOSE="on"

:0 c:

| $IMAP.backup

:0 fw
| spamc

:0 h
* ^X-Spam-level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
/dev/null

:0
* ^From.*Cron | ^Subject.*Cron 
| $IMAP.cron

:0
| $IMAP 

:0 w
{EXITCODE=$?
HOST
}

~/.procmailrc (end)


~/.maillog (begin)
procmail: [12792] Mon Sep 30 21:45:19 2002
procmail: Couldn't determine implicit lockfile from "/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver"
procmail: Locking ".lock"
procmail: Executing "/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver,-a,andy,-q,-m,user.andy.backup"
procmail: Non-zero exitcode (65) from "/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver"
procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver -a andy -q -m user.andy.backup"
procmail: Unlocking ".lock"
procmail: Match on "^From:.*andyml"
procmail: Couldn't determine implicit lockfile from "/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver"
procmail: Locking ".lock"
procmail: Executing "/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver,andy"
procmail: Non-zero exitcode (65) from "/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver"
procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver andy"
procmail: Unlocking ".lock"
procmail: Executing "spamc"
procmail: No match on "^X-Spam-level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*"
procmail: No match on "^From.*Cron | ^Subject.*Cron"
procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver -a andy -q -m user.andy"
procmail: Notified comsat: "andy@:/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver -a andy -q -m user.andy"
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep 30 21:45:19 2002
 Subject: hello again. This is a test.
  Folder: /usr/sbin/cyrdeliver -a andy -q -m user.andy  562
~/.maillog (end)


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Re: JDK: Okay, this used to work

[Hubert Chan]

> "Carl" == Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Carl> I started to learn Java back when I was running Slink.  I didn't
Carl> get past chapter 3 of the book, but everything worked.

Carl> Why not now?

Carl> I install Jikes.  I start Sun's tutorial and enter
Carl> HelloWorldApp.java per the web site.  I compile it with javac.
Carl> Seems OK.  Then I try

Carl>   java HelloWorldApp.class

I believe you need to drop the ".class".

# java HelloWorldApp.class
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: HelloWorldApp/class
# java HelloWorldApp
Hello World!

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Re: JDK: Okay, this used to work

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I started to learn Java back when I was running Slink.  I didn't get past
> chapter 3 of the book, but everything worked.
> 
> Why not now?
> 
> I install Jikes.  I start Sun's tutorial and enter HelloWorldApp.java per
> the web site.  I compile it with javac.  Seems OK.  Then I try
> 
>   java HelloWorldApp.class

# java HelloWorldApp

You are telling java to execute the named class, not the named file.
You must also have the directory containing HelloWorldApp in
$CLASSPATH (this can be . if you run java from the directory
containing that class).

> And get
> 
>   Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
>   HelloWorldApp/class

This is saying that it can't find a class called HelloWorldApp/class,
which makes sense because your class is called HelloWorldApp.  What it
is looking for here is a directory called HelloWorldApp containing a
file called class.class.  Java package and class structures are
different to filesystem directory and file structures, although the
one is overlaid on the other.

> Whoops.  Quick search via Google Groups indicates that the class file needed
> is by default installed where it can't actually be used.  (??)  So I
> uninstall Jikes and install Sun's JDK.

Huh?  Don't know what Google's smoking here.  Note that jikes and the
JDK are NOT equivalent.  Jikes only provides a compiler (and a much
faster one than Sun's - I recommend it).  You still need a virtual
machine.  Kaffe is not a useful virtual machine, you need to get
either Sun's (1.3.1_04 works well for me) or the one from Blackdown or
IBM.  Note also that when you install Sun's JDK you don't get 'java'
on your $PATH, unless you do some symlink fiddling or unpackage it in
/usr, which is NOT recommended.

> And get the same error.
> 
> What's up?  What can I do to fix this?  And how did this get into Stable not
> working at all without manual fixes?

It works fine, but class names do not end in '.class'.

Tom
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Re: pine binaries

[irvine]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 02:09:39PM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
> | Hello All
> | 
> | At http://www.braincells.com/open/ I notice that there
> | are binaries for sid and potato but not for woody. Does
> | anyone know where I could get binaries for woody or does
> | one have to compile pine.
> | 
> 
> Have a look at pine-tracker (non-free).

Hei

This is not quite the type of binary I had in mind.

http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/pine-tracker.html:
"This package warns you about outdated pine packages in your system."

t.irvine

> 
> HTH,
> 
> Brooks
> 
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Re: KDE2 helloworld.cpp

[Tom Cook]

On  0, John Batistic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am unable to compile the KDE2 helloworld.cpp example
> 
> error message from make:
> 
> g++-c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp
> helloworld.cpp:2: qapplication.h: No such file or directory
> helloworld.cpp:3: qlabel.h: No such file or directory
> helloworld.cpp:4: qstring.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [helloworld.o] Error 1
> 
> There appear to be two problems.
> 
> 1. $HOME/.profile is not being processed. PATH is not modified to the
> new settings as per the 'installing Qt/X11' reference documentation.
> 
> 2. If I force .profile with '. .profile' PATH etc are modified - but
> ignored.

I don't think your path has much to do with it.  If you have:

# apt-get install libqt-dev

and have these #includes in your helloworld.cpp:

#include 
#include 
#include 

then you should be able to compile with:

g++ -c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp

Note also that the usual (proper?) way of naming C++ source is *.cc or
*.cxx, not *.cpp like M$ do.

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Re: Gnome Themes

[Claudio Bley]

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 03:02, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote:
> I can't find which package to install to have more Gnome themes. Which
> package is it?

Try the gtk-engine-* packages.

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JDK: Okay, this used to work

[Carl Fink]

I started to learn Java back when I was running Slink.  I didn't get past
chapter 3 of the book, but everything worked.

Why not now?

I install Jikes.  I start Sun's tutorial and enter HelloWorldApp.java per
the web site.  I compile it with javac.  Seems OK.  Then I try

java HelloWorldApp.class

And get

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
HelloWorldApp/class

Whoops.  Quick search via Google Groups indicates that the class file needed
is by default installed where it can't actually be used.  (??)  So I
uninstall Jikes and install Sun's JDK.

And get the same error.

What's up?  What can I do to fix this?  And how did this get into Stable not
working at all without manual fixes?
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SOLVED: How to use apostrophe in bash shell script?

[Kent West]

Kent West wrote:

> nate wrote:
>
> > Kent West said:
> > > I'm trying to use the following in a bash shell script:
> > >
> > > echo This machine's name and IP address
> > > cat /etc/hosts | grep $HOSTNAME
> >
> > try enclosing the line in quotes:
> >
> > echo "This machine's IP address"
> >
> > seems to work for me
> >
> > nate
> >
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Both your suggestion and my original line (see above) work from the command
> line, but neither work from the shell script. So, I created a new, minimal shell
> script (below) which does work. So it must be something in my script. I'll take
> a closer look. Thanks for the help!
>
> Contents of script which does work:
> -
> #!/bin/bash
> echo "This machine's name"
>
> Kent

Thanks to Nate's help, I found the problem. I had another line above this one with
a similar echo'd line that had an apostrophe. Apparently bash was interpreting
everything between the two apostrophe's as a string, which explains some other odd
behaviour I was seeing, but had put on the back burner to deal with this easier
problem first.

Thanks!

Kent



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Re: How to use apostrophe in bash shell script?

[Kent West]

nate wrote:

> Kent West said:
> > I'm trying to use the following in a bash shell script:
> >
> > echo This machine's name and IP address
> > cat /etc/hosts | grep $HOSTNAME
>
> try enclosing the line in quotes:
>
> echo "This machine's IP address"
>
> seems to work for me
>
> nate
>

Thanks for the response.

Both your suggestion and my original line (see above) work from the command
line, but neither work from the shell script. So, I created a new, minimal shell
script (below) which does work. So it must be something in my script. I'll take
a closer look. Thanks for the help!

Contents of script which does work:
-
#!/bin/bash
echo "This machine's name"



Kent



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Re: A (little) bit OT: The Gimp & LaTeX (Or putting it all together)

[Alan Shutko]

Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This is news to me; I am only a 'part-time' LaTeX user.  How do I
> include jpegs directly in LaTeX without degradation when I make it a
> PS doc?

Install the "jpeg2ps" package and use it to convert jpegs to
postscript.  From the package description:

Description: Convert JPEG compressed images to PostScript Level 2
 jpeg2ps converts JPEG files to PostScript Level 2 or 3 EPS. In fact, jpeg2ps
 is not really a converter but a "wrapper": it reads the image parameters
 (width, height, number of color components) in a JPEG file, writes the
 according EPS header and then copies the compressed JPEG data to the output
 file. Decompression is done by the PostScript interpreter (only PostScript
 Level 2 and 3 interpreters support JPEG compression and decompression).
 If you have a slow communication channel and a fast printer, sending
 compressed image data is a big win.



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Re: Unattended installation...

[Justin Ryan]

> I am trying to do some unattended installation of debian boxes using

There is a package prepared by Progeny called 'autoinst' which will
manage this for you..  I haven't had success with it, but haven't spent
much time with it either..

I'd like to be able to do this, though - as I'm trying to convince my
employer that we should offer debian to our hosting customers and we
need an auto install comperable to RH's kickstart to be able to work
it..

Cheers..

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Re: wheel mouse

[Justin Ryan]

>   Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"

This is the important part - it's using the IntelliMouse protocol, but
should work with most wheel mice (works with my logitech just fine).

If you configure X with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, you can select
'enable scrolling for mouse wheel' or somesuch and be kosher..

-Justin


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Re: KDE2 helloworld.cpp

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 30 September 2002 16:55, John Batistic wrote:
> > I am unable to compile the KDE2 helloworld.cpp example
> >
> > error message from make:
> >
> > g++-c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp
> > helloworld.cpp:2: qapplication.h: No such file or directory
> > helloworld.cpp:3: qlabel.h: No such file or directory
> > helloworld.cpp:4: qstring.h: No such file or directory
> > make: *** [helloworld.o] Error 1
> >
> > There appear to be two problems.
> >
> > 1. $HOME/.profile is not being processed. PATH is not modified to the
> > new settings as per the 'installing Qt/X11' reference documentation.
> >
> > 2. If I force .profile with '. .profile' PATH etc are modified - but
> > ignored.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > John Batistic
> 
> You do not state so let's start at the beginning.
> 
> Do you have the -dev version of the kdelibs as well as qt installed?  Rather 
> than depend on environment variables I usually define the path to my include 
> files in a makefile.  Also Debian is a little different because we actually 
> install qt so that /usr/include/qt exists so you should not really need any 
> special variables set.

Also, of course, $PATH is not searched for #include files.

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Re: Mozilla 1.0.1 builds for Woody?

[Justin Ryan]

> It has the new feature that you can open an URL in a new tab remotely, 
> which is Very Important[tm] when using it with other apps. That's why 
> I'm asking. I'm currently running 1.1 from Sid, and it works OK, but 
> I'm setting up Woody on another box now, and I'd like to avoid getting 
> things from sarge/sid in there. 

I use mozilla-snapshot by adding this to my sources.list:

#testing mozilla 
deb http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla ./
deb-src http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla ./

Seems to be less often than weekly nowadays, but still newer than
'mozilla'..

Note that you can have 'mozilla' and 'mozilla-snapshot' installed and
managed with alternatives, and it's not such a bad idea - if something
breaks in snapshot you can fall back to mozilla :)

happy mozilla'ing :)

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Re: KDE@ helloworld.cpp

[John Batistic]

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 12:05, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> On Monday 30 September 2002 16:55, John Batistic wrote:
> > I am unable to compile the KDE2 helloworld.cpp example
> >
> > error message from make:
> >
> > g++-c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp
> > helloworld.cpp:2: qapplication.h: No such file or directory
> > helloworld.cpp:3: qlabel.h: No such file or directory
> > helloworld.cpp:4: qstring.h: No such file or directory
> > make: *** [helloworld.o] Error 1
> >
> > There appear to be two problems.
> >
> > 1. $HOME/.profile is not being processed. PATH is not modified to
the
> > new settings as per the 'installing Qt/X11' reference documentation.
> >
> > 2. If I force .profile with '. .profile' PATH etc are modified - but
> > ignored.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > John Batistic
> 
> You do not state so let's start at the beginning.
> 
> Do you have the -dev version of the kdelibs as well as qt installed? 
Rather 
> than depend on environment variables I usually define the path to my
include 
> files in a makefile.  Also Debian is a little different because we
actually 
> install qt so that /usr/include/qt exists so you should not really
need any 
> special variables set.
> 
Yes, I do have kdelibs-dev.

If I fully define the header file path in helloworld.cpp the make fails
when it reaches other .h calls.

Can you give me an example of how you define the environment variables
in your makefile to suit the Debian locations? 

Is .profile normally ignored?


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Re: A (little) bit OT: The Gimp & LaTeX (Or putting it all together)

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I find that conversion to PS/EPS often degrades bitmap pictures (in
> > particular the over-the-top anti-aliasing makes text and hard lines
> > fairly fuzzy).
> 
> That should only be for display (since AA only happens on display).
> JPEG images can be put into PS file without uncompression, so there
> should be no degradation.
> 
> Now, when converting to PDF many distill-type programs will resample
> the image, which will degrade it, but that can be turned off.

This is news to me; I am only a 'part-time' LaTeX user.  How do I
include jpegs directly in LaTeX without degradation when I make it a
PS doc?

Tom
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Re: How to use apostrophe in bash shell script?

[nate]

Kent West said:
> I'm trying to use the following in a bash shell script:
>
> echo This machine's name and IP address
> cat /etc/hosts | grep $HOSTNAME

try enclosing the line in quotes:

echo "This machine's IP address"

seems to work for me

nate





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Unattended installation...

[Bruno BEAUFILS]

I am trying to do some unattended installation of debian boxes using
apt-get. I use `-q -y' options as well as a prepared debconf cache. Everything
is fine but sometimes apt asks me some question about files already installed
(some files are those I tailored for my boxes) like this one :

Configuration file `/etc/emacs/site-start.d/50tramp.el'
 ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
 ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
  D : show the differences between the versions
  Z : background this process to examine the situation
 The default action is to keep your current version.
*** 50tramp.el (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?

How may I prevent apt-get to ask me those questions ?

BTW, Isn't it time to enforce all packages to use debconf (even lilo does not
use it, I was forced to build my own lilo packages to avoid it using
liloconfig :-(

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Re: can i trust you with this project

[Michael Olson]

This is probably a hoax.  I heard a news account of someone who got 
ripped off in a northern State for a million dollars or two.  Besides, 
it's illegal and too good to be true.

bello afolabi wrote:

>MR. BELLO AFOLABI
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>
>Attn: THE PRESIDENT / CEO
>
>It is with trust and confidence that I make this
>urgent important proposal to you in view of the fact
>that you are trust worthy and reliable.  Currently I
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How to use apostrophe in bash shell script?

[Kent West]

I'm trying to use the following in a bash shell script:

echo This machine's name and IP address
cat /etc/hosts | grep $HOSTNAME

but the echo'd line doesn't print the apostrophe. I've tried several
variations, and from what I've read in man bash and on the web, it looks
like \' oughtta do the job.

Any input?

Thanks!

Kent



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Gnome Themes

[Jerry Van Brimmer]

I have Woody installed, with KDE as my prime desktop. However, when I
run gnomecc and select the Theme Selector, I only have one theme to
select: Default. I'd like more themes to select from because I use
Evolution. I have searched through all of my CDs with dselect, but I
can't find which package to install to have more Gnome themes. Which
package is it?

Thanks




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Re: ext2 ext3 ?

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 05:47, Gerard Robin wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 12:48:49AM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> > * Gerard Robin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020929 00:44]:
> > > but how can I change from ext2 to ext3 without breaking my actual 
> > > installation and how to do this ?
> > 
> > tune2fs -j /dev/hda1   (for example.)
>  
> tune2fs -j /dev/hdb3 worked fine for me (I use kernel-2.4.18...deb)
> but after that, I stopped badly my machine and when I rebooted, the time 
> to clean /dev/hdb3 is about the same as before.   
> Thanks to all who responded to me.
> 
> -- 
> Gerard
> 
> 
> -- 

Same thing happened with me, and I wondered for a moment, and then I
realised something - I hadn't unmounted and then remounted as ext3 the
partitions I'd added ext3 to, so they were still ext2 until the death by
1 billion thrashes. As a result, there was no journal data to be
applied, but there was plenty of ext2 space for potential inconsistency
due to the way the system was stopped.
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Re: KDE2 helloworld.cpp

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On Monday 30 September 2002 16:55, John Batistic wrote:
> I am unable to compile the KDE2 helloworld.cpp example
>
> error message from make:
>
> g++-c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp
> helloworld.cpp:2: qapplication.h: No such file or directory
> helloworld.cpp:3: qlabel.h: No such file or directory
> helloworld.cpp:4: qstring.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [helloworld.o] Error 1
>
> There appear to be two problems.
>
> 1. $HOME/.profile is not being processed. PATH is not modified to the
> new settings as per the 'installing Qt/X11' reference documentation.
>
> 2. If I force .profile with '. .profile' PATH etc are modified - but
> ignored.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
>
> John Batistic

You do not state so let's start at the beginning.

Do you have the -dev version of the kdelibs as well as qt installed?  Rather 
than depend on environment variables I usually define the path to my include 
files in a makefile.  Also Debian is a little different because we actually 
install qt so that /usr/include/qt exists so you should not really need any 
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KDE2 helloworld.cpp

[John Batistic]

I am unable to compile the KDE2 helloworld.cpp example

error message from make:

g++-c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp
helloworld.cpp:2: qapplication.h: No such file or directory
helloworld.cpp:3: qlabel.h: No such file or directory
helloworld.cpp:4: qstring.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [helloworld.o] Error 1

There appear to be two problems.

1. $HOME/.profile is not being processed. PATH is not modified to the
new settings as per the 'installing Qt/X11' reference documentation.

2. If I force .profile with '. .profile' PATH etc are modified - but
ignored.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

John Batistic

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Re: Problems with simplest network !!!

[Nicos Gollan]

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On Tuesday 01 October 2002 00:08, Sergio Mendoza wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   Have two i386 computers running Debian.  Computer A has two network
> cards: eth0 (XXX.XXX.X.X) and eth1 (192.168.0.1).
> eth0 is connected to the internet and eth1 is supposed to connect to
> an internal network (192.168.0.0).  The netmask for both is
> 255.255.255.0. eth0 works absolutely perfect!
>
>
>   Now, I have a laptop (computer B) with a pcmcia card eth0
> (192.168.0.2) with netmask 255.255.255.0.
>
>   Computer A is connected to computer B and ...  nothing!  I can't
> get the connection! Basically, the internal network is not working! 
> What's going on?

Now, it has already be mentioned that you'll need a crossover cable or 
connect the computers via a hub. A hub or switch would be especially 
nice at least to try if you get a connection, blinking lights are a 
wonderful thing. Are both cards reporting link and activity if you, 
say, send pings between the machines?

Two more things from my personal anecdote chest, both about strange and 
more or less rare error conditions:

If comp. A's card is 10/100 and the PCMCIA card is 10Mbit only, try to 
throttle the A card down to 10MBit. This should not be an issue, but 
has caused me problems on older hardware that apparently couldn't 
auto-sync.

Try using an unshielded cable to hook up B. Each and every PCMCIA card 
that I tried refused to work with shielded cables (with shielded plugs, 
you recognize those by the metal tongs on the side of the plug). 
Unshielded cables (plasic-only plugs) worked perfectly.

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Re: Any FAI success stories?

[Claudio Martins]

On Tuesday 01 October 2002 00:12, Michael Jinks wrote:
>
> I can probably work something out, like writing in an extra clause in
> FAI's scripts so that /var/run is a tmpfs filesystem or something, but
> after many similar hacks I'm starting to wonder, does anybody actually
> use FAI successfully?  And if not, is there a better option out there
> that I haven't been able to google?
>

 Hi Michael,

  Don't give up yet. I have FAI working just fine, installing two beowulf 
clusters at the lab where I work (one 10 machines and the other 16). I took 
some time to get used to it, reading the manual, but then I finally got it 
and put it to work the way I wanted in a few tries.
  I don't have the time right now to explain the details but if you or anybody 
else wants it I can send some example configuration directories and some 
notes as soon as I get some spare time, ok?
 So just send me an e-mail if you're interested...

regards

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Re: Apt errors: Warning: could not lock the cache file.

[W. Paul Mills]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sven Hartrumpf) writes:

> I have installed packages using aptitude when my / partition filled up
> by some /etc ... files (from CUPS packages).
> Installation failed therefore.
> Now, everytime I call aptitude I get:
> "Apt errors: Warning: could not lock the cache file. Opening in read-only
> mode"
> and therefore can not de/select anything in aptitude.
> I have found some lock files for apt and deleted them. But this did not
> solve the problem.
> Any ideas?

I had a similar problem due to a hardware failure during upgrade.
In desperation, I ran dselect, which also failed, but told me what
I needed to run to solve the problem. Sorry, I do not remember the
command.

Paul




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Re: XFree86 Problems [continues Woody Installation Problems II]

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 10:11, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
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> On Monday 30 September 2002 12:06 am, Daniel Fabian wrote:
> > > I replaced that with the xserver-svga driver.  Yes it is 3.3.6 not 4.x,
> > > but with this driver, I find the video to be quite satisfactory
> > > (although I haven't tried anything really demanding.) This version of
> > > the older driver works with the other components of X 4.x.
> >
> > My fscking laptop is driving me crazy. One problem hunts the other. I
> > resolved the xfree86 problem (by using vesa as driver instead of sis) and
> > now x starts correctly and I get to the grapical login manager. I try to
> > login, and the kde startscreen shows up. Then the keyboard symbol is
> > embossed, it switches back to the konsole for a second, then back to the
> > kde startscreen again, and then I'm at the graphical loginmanager again.
> > ??? wtf ???.
> >
> > > Bob
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Daniel
> 
> Daniel:
> 
> Were you attempting an x loggin as root?  That might not be a good idea, and 
> it also might not work depending on your security setup.
> 
> Were you attempting to log in as user?  Then take a look at the file in this 
> user home file called .xsession-errors for any details related to the kde 
> failure.
> 
> Off the top of my head, it might be a missing lib or component for kde.  The 
> errors should help you track it down.
> 
> In my case, I start with blackbox and IceWM first.  Once these two super 
> light weight GUI's are installed, I then install kde.  If kde breaks, I 
> always have a solid desktop GUI to fall back on.  It is also helpful when I 
> am doing a lot of *stuff* to use blackbox to free up extra hardware resources.
> 
> Congrats on the xfree setup.  You're half way there!  :)
> 
> hth
> 
> tatah
> 
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Offhand, I get that if my power went out while using KDE - the only
recovery I've found so far is to delete ~/.kde/ (which thankfully
doesn't lose anywhere near as much information as if I'd deleted
~/.gnome/), and then everything loads up fine and I can set a handful of
preferences.
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Any FAI success stories?

[Michael Jinks]

Hi all.

Been spending the last couple of weeks, off and on, trying to get an FAI
setup to work for a cluster I'm trying to build.  At this point I'm
starting to wonder if FAI works for anybody; I've had to make lots of
kludgey adjustments to its scripts, moved files around so that FAI can
find them, and now I'm stuck because the way that FAI expects to use
DHCP won't work.  After booting the client and mounting / read-only, it
calls dhclient to get some variables to use in deciding what sort of
action to take; but dhclient expects to write to /var/run, which is part
of / at this stage, thus read-only, so dhclient dies.  (Even this is
further along than I got at first; the current version of dhclient
appears to behave completely differently from the one FAI expects to
use, so I had to downgrade to the 2.2.x series just to get the command
line options to make sense.)

I can probably work something out, like writing in an extra clause in
FAI's scripts so that /var/run is a tmpfs filesystem or something, but
after many similar hacks I'm starting to wonder, does anybody actually
use FAI successfully?  And if not, is there a better option out there
that I haven't been able to google?

Thanks,
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getting started with cvs-conf?

[Chris Cioffi]

Are there any documents any where that describe how to get started with 
cvs-conf?  I'm starting to play a little with cvs for a few small 
projects and would like to use cvs-conf to keep a better history of what 
I changed and why.

I've installed the cvs-conf package, but I'm not sure how to go about 
adding all my current config files.

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PS:  Google! and mail list archives turned up no relevant information.



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Re: new install no mouse

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Ben" == Ben Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Ben> Hello, I new to Debian and this list.  I have just installed
Ben> Debian Woody 3.0 with the 2.4 kernel.  My PS2 3-button
Ben> Logitec Mouse does not work in console mode.  The mouse
Ben> doesn't work under X either.

Ben> I have tried to find docs or FAQs but so far no luck.

Ben> Q1- How can I get my mouse going please?  

For console mode be sure to install gpm (apt-get install gpm) if you
don't already have it. For X, what does the mouse section in
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 look like? Try running 'dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-common' and be sure you picked the right mouse settings. I'd
suggest getting gpm to work first if you are having serious trouble
beyond all this.

Ben> Q2- How can I set the default runlevel to multiuser console
Ben> mode? (I do not want to go straight into X).

By default Debian does not give you such a run level.

Pick a run level, say 3. Change the default run level in /etc/inittab
to 3. Then in /etc/rc3.d/ look for all those S99 files that start up
gdm, kdm, xdm (and so on), and rename to be K01gdm, K01kdm, K01xdm
etc. (look in /etc/rc6.d/ to get an idea of what I'm talking about).

Doing an 'init 3' should take you to console mode without
rebooting. 

Pretty standard stuff if you know the /etc/rcN.d/ files from another
distribution.

Cheers!
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Re: getting started with cvs-conf?

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Chris Cioffi wrote:

> Are there any documents any where that describe how to get started with 
> cvs-conf?  I'm starting to play a little with cvs for a few small 
> projects and would like to use cvs-conf to keep a better history of what 
> I changed and why.
> 
> I've installed the cvs-conf package, but I'm not sure how to go about 
> adding all my current config files.
> 
> Chris

Hi,

see /usr/share/doc/cvs/html-info.

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Re: ext2 ext3 ?

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Elimar" == Elimar Riesebieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Elimar> auto works too! So the partitions can be mounted by
Elimar> booting from a rescue disk with a kernel which doesn't
Elimar> support ext3.

I remember having trouble with the 'auto' setting. I think it was that
when the standard 2.4.18 kernel booted up it first tried to find ext2
file systems, which all 'auto' entries matched. Then later it loaded
the ext3 modules, which promptly found nothing. Basically, my auto
entry always got mounted as ext2. On the laptop I only had one FS, the
root FS, and perhaps that might have been the reason 'auto' did not
work for me.

I could be wrong, or might have done something wrong back then. But if
some one can confirm and/or enlighten me it would be much appreciated.

Cheers!
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Re: Problems with simplest network !!!

[Jamin W. Collins]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 05:08:05PM -0500, Sergio Mendoza wrote:

>   Computer A is connected to computer B and ...  nothing!  I can't get the
> connection! Basically, the internal network is not working!  What's going on?

How have you connected the two internal machines?  A direct cable?  A
hub/switch?  If you are using a single cable, it needs to be a
crossover cable.

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Problems with simplest network !!!

[Sergio Mendoza]

Hi,

  Have two i386 computers running Debian.  Computer A has two network
cards: eth0 (XXX.XXX.X.X) and eth1 (192.168.0.1).  
eth0 is connected to the internet and eth1 is supposed to connect to 
an internal network (192.168.0.0).  The netmask for both is 255.255.255.0.
eth0 works absolutely perfect!


  Now, I have a laptop (computer B) with a pcmcia card eth0 (192.168.0.2)
with netmask 255.255.255.0. 

  Computer A is connected to computer B and ...  nothing!  I can't get the
connection! Basically, the internal network is not working!  What's going on?

 Clues:

   a) In computer A /etc/network/interfaces was edited with:

auto eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0

auto eth0 
   something for eth0 which is working! 

   b) In computer B, I edited /etc/pcmcia/network.opt with something like:

 default,*,*,*)
# Transceiver selection, for some cards -- see 'man ifport'
IF_PORT="auto"
# Host's IP address, netmask, network address, broadcast address
IPADDR="192.168.0.2"
NETMASK="255.255.255.0"
NETWORK="192.168.0.0"

   c) ifconfig says cards are up with the correct addresses.  The network
  cards are recognised internally, for example in computer A 
  a ping to 192.168.0.1 works and in computer B the same but for
  192.168.0.2

  Any ideas on this? 

Sergio. 


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Woody - Failure running chroot on Install

[Kim Christiansen]

Finally started Fresh Install of Woody
continue to get (from Second Console window) 
(none) user.info dbootsrap[76]: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg 
--force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf_1.0.32_all.deb

Searched HOW-to's and FAQ and now have No idea.

Hda =
/hda1 10 mb bootable
/hba2 200mb ext2
/hda3 500mb 
/hda4 500mb
/hda5 200mb linux swap



thanks in advance if you anyone can help.

Am now stuffed - should I go back and install potato and try to reinstall kernel from 
there?



Kim


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Re: wheel mouse

[Jamin W . Collins]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:02:41 +0200 Mirek Dobsicek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


> I've new optical mouse Genius NetScroll+ eye. My XF86Config-4 has this 
> section:
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>  Identifier  "Elf optical mouse"
>  Driver  "mouse"
>  Option  "CorePointer"
>  Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
>  Option  "Protocol"  "NetMousePS/2"
> EndSection
> 
> Mouse move ok, wheel acts as middle button ok, but it does not scroll 
> (I'd like to scroll in mozilla and gnome-terminal). I'm running Sarge 
> with Gnome 1.4 on kernel 2.4.18.
> 
> What's wrong and can be better?

Try adding this option:
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"

and you may need to change your protocol to:
Option  "Protocol" "IMPS/2"

I haven't tried any other protocols for wheeled mice.  However, I can tell
you that imwheel is _not_ needed with XFree86 v4.x

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Re: wheel mouse

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Mirek Dobsicek wrote:

> yes, I did.
> 
> 
> elfie:/home/elf# imwheel
> INFO: imwheel started (pid=570)
> elfie:/home/elf# /root/.imwheelrc: No such file or directory
> 
> elfie:/home/elf#
> 
> It still does not scroll.
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi,
> > did you install the imwheel package?
> >
> > Oliver

My XF86Config-4 looks like this:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

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Re: wheel mouse

[Mirek Dobsicek]

yes, I did.


elfie:/home/elf# imwheel
INFO: imwheel started (pid=570)
elfie:/home/elf# /root/.imwheelrc: No such file or directory

elfie:/home/elf#

It still does not scroll.


 >
 > Hi,
 > did you install the imwheel package?
 >
 > Oliver



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Re: ext2 ext3 ?

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 the mental interface of 
Gerard Robin told:

> On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 08:03:16AM -0500, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
> > "Gerard" == Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >  
> > Gerard> tune2fs -j /dev/hdb3 worked fine for me (I use
> > Gerard> kernel-2.4.18...deb) but after that, I stopped badly
> > my Gerard> machine and when I rebooted, the time to clean
> > /dev/hdb3 Gerard> is about the same as before.  Thanks to
> > all who responded Gerard> to me.
> > 
> > Besides the tune2fs command you need to update /etc/fstab and
> > change ext2 to ext3 at the appropriate places. If you are using
> > the stock 2.4.18 that should be all, but verify with 'cat
> > /proc/mounts' that you really do have ext3.
> 
> 'cat /proc/mounts' :
> 
> /dev/root.old /initrd cramfs rw 0 0 /dev/root / ext2 rw 0 0 proc
> /proc proc rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /boot
> ext2 rw 0 0 /dev/hda4 /mnt ext2 rw 0 0
>  
> 'cat /etc/fstab' : # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> # #   
>  /dev/hdb3/   ext2
>defaults,errors=remount-ro  0
> 1 /dev/hdb2   noneswapsw  0   0 proc 
> /proc   proc
> defaults  0   0 /dev/fd0  /floppy auto
> defaults,user,noauto  0   0 # /dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660
> defaults,ro,user,noauto   0   0 /dev/scd0 /cdrom  iso9660
> defaults,ro,user,noauto   0   0 # /dev/cdrw   /cdrw   iso9660
> defaults,ro,user,noauto   0   0 /dev/scd1 /cdrw   iso9660
> defaults,ro,user,noauto   0   0 /dev/hdb1 /boot   ext2 rw
> 0 2
>  
> there is not ext3 ?
> 
> in "/boot/config-2.4.18-386" there is : CONFIG_EXT3_FS=m
> 
> and 'modconf' gives :  ext3 +
> 
> but perhaps I have to recompile the kernel whith CONFIG_EXT3-FS=y
> ?
Of course! Try it.

Ciao

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Re: ext2 ext3 ?

[Jamin W . Collins]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:24:49 + Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 08:03:16AM -0500, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
>
> > Besides the tune2fs command you need to update /etc/fstab and change
> > ext2 to ext3 at the appropriate places. If you are using the stock
> > 2.4.18 that should be all, but verify with 'cat /proc/mounts' that you
> > really do have ext3.
>
> 'cat /etc/fstab' :
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> # 
> 
> /dev/hdb3 /   ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro  0   1
> /dev/hdb1 /boot   ext2 rw 0   2
>  
> there is not ext3 ?
(snip)
> but perhaps I have to recompile the kernel whith CONFIG_EXT3-FS=y ?

Nope, just need to change the above two "ext2" entries in your fstab to
ext3 and ensure that you've created the journal for both of them (as the
previous poster indicated) with:

- tune2fs -j /dev/hdb3
- tune2fs -j /dev/hdb1

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new install no mouse

[Ben Miller]

Hello,
I new to Debian and this list.
I have just installed Debian Woody 3.0 with the 2.4 kernel.
My PS2 3-button Logitec Mouse does not work in console mode.
The mouse doesn't work under X either.

I have tried to find docs or FAQs but so far no luck.

Q1- How can I get my mouse going please?
Q2- How can I set the default runlevel to multiuser console mode? (I do 
not want to go straight into X).

Ben.


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Re: wheel mouse

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Mirek Dobsicek wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've new optical mouse Genius NetScroll+ eye. My XF86Config-4 has this 
> section:
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Elf optical mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
> Option  "Protocol"  "NetMousePS/2"
> EndSection
> 
> Mouse move ok, wheel acts as middle button ok, but it does not scroll 
> (I'd like to scroll in mozilla and gnome-terminal). I'm running Sarge 
> with Gnome 1.4 on kernel 2.4.18.
> 
> What's wrong and can be better?

Hi,
did you install the imwheel package?

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Re: ext2 ext3 ?

[Gerard Robin]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 08:03:16AM -0500, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
> "Gerard" == Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  
> Gerard> tune2fs -j /dev/hdb3 worked fine for me (I use
> Gerard> kernel-2.4.18...deb) but after that, I stopped badly my
> Gerard> machine and when I rebooted, the time to clean /dev/hdb3
> Gerard> is about the same as before.  Thanks to all who responded
> Gerard> to me.
> 
> Besides the tune2fs command you need to update /etc/fstab and change
> ext2 to ext3 at the appropriate places. If you are using the stock
> 2.4.18 that should be all, but verify with 'cat /proc/mounts' that you
> really do have ext3.

'cat /proc/mounts' :

/dev/root.old /initrd cramfs rw 0 0
/dev/root / ext2 rw 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /boot ext2 rw 0 0
/dev/hda4 /mnt ext2 rw 0 0
 
'cat /etc/fstab' :
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
/dev/hdb3   /   ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro  0   1
/dev/hdb2   noneswapsw  0   0
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto0   0
# /dev/cdrom/cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0   0
/dev/scd0   /cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0   0
# /dev/cdrw /cdrw   iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0   0
/dev/scd1   /cdrw   iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0   0
/dev/hdb1   /boot   ext2 rw 0   2
 
there is not ext3 ?

in "/boot/config-2.4.18-386" there is : CONFIG_EXT3_FS=m

and 'modconf' gives :  ext3 +

but perhaps I have to recompile the kernel whith CONFIG_EXT3-FS=y ?

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Re: dist-upgrade problem with conflicting packages coreutils and shellutils

[Faheem Mitha]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:52:06 +0200, Gerhard Gaussling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Montag, 30. September 2002 05:35 schrieb Faheem Mitha:
>> though. What does apt-get -u upgrade
>> currently say?
> 
> Hello Faheem,
> 
> Thank you for your response. Unfortunately I'd already overwritten 
> the 'coreutils-packages' of sarge (shellutils and textutils) with 
> their newest versions. That means that I had installed coreutils 
> sometimes before I did apt-get dist-upgrade (I think due to 
> dependencies of a SID package I needed).
> 
> Now I got coreutils in the apt database, but the utilities are 
> overwritten by the sarge packages.

Oh, I see. In this case there is probably nothing wrong with your apt
configuration (seem my recent message), but you do need to be careful
about dependencies if installing stuff from unstable. It is frequently
(in fact often) possible to recompile stuff on sarge using source
packages from unstable, and this is what you should do if apt tries to
change your base packages when pulling something from unstable.

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Re: dist-upgrade problem with conflicting packages coreutils and shellutils

[Faheem Mitha]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:26:04 +0200, Gerhard Gaussling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> debian:/usr/src# apt-get remove  coreutils
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   coreutils
> WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed
> This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
>   coreutils
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0  not 
> upgraded.
> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 5329kB will be freed.
> You are about to do something potentially harmful
> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
>  ?] n
> Abort.
> 
> This seems to be not a good idea. Maybe apt-get and debconf depends 
> on the utilitys, and if they are removed I'll maybe no longer able 
> to reinstall textutils, shellutils and fileutils.

Agreed.

Ok, here is the deal. I am not completely sure on the details, but it
appears that you had apt misconfigured, since the coreutils binary is
currently only in unstable, and apt never should have tried to install
it. I'm tracking sarge and I don't have it installed. So the first
priority is to figure out why this happened and make sure it doesn't
happen again. Stuff from unstable, particularly basic stuff, is not
guaranteed to play nice with stuff in testing/stable.

Ok, so what to do? Well you have two choices. 

1) Backtrack to testing completely. Risky, and not guaranteed to work.

2) Do nothing and continue to track sarge, making sure that you are in
fact tracking sarge. This is probably your best option, assuming that
your system is working normally. At some point sarge will catch up to
the current packages in unstable, and coreutils will come in to sarge,
and at that point hopefully if there are any residual problems, they
will be resolved. If not, well, you should cross that bridge when you
come to it.

So the questions are

1) Is your system working normally?

2) What is the problems with your apt-sources? My current apt
sources are

***
# See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
# CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool.

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main
contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ woody/updates main contrib non-free 

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main 
contrib non-free


and /etc/apt/preferences are

*
Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 50
*

and these work Ok for me. Maybe there is a problem with your
preferences setting. I am sure people here would be happy to advise
you about this.
  
  Faheem.



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Re: authentication problem (PAM?)

[Alex Malinovich]

On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 12:04, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Alex Malinovich said:
> > I'm not sure if this is really the culprit, but all fingers seem to
> > point this way. I just did an update (using experimental, yes I know
> > this is to be expected :) and now my GDM logins are broken. I keep
> > getting a Authentication Error when I try to log in with any user.
> > /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/passwd were changed during the update,
> > but I've tried rolling back the changes with no success. Any
> > suggestions on what to start checking? (I know this is sparse on
> > details but I don't know where to find any more details. Any pointers
> > are appreciated.)
> > 
> > -Alex
> 
> It sounds like you installed the pam from experimental as well.  You
> don't need it, so dump it.  Download the pam modules from your regular
> distribution (sid, I'm guessing), and install with dpkg -i (maybe
> --force-downgrade as well).  There is a bunch of pam stuff in
> experimental, and from the talk on -devel, it's not so stable. 

Unfortunately I'm using gdm2 which depends on libpam0g >= 0.75. Sid
currently has 0.72-35. Is there some way to roll back to the version
that USED to be in experimental? (Or at least some version after 0.75
since Sid is still as 0.72?) TIA.

-Alex




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OT? Change skeleton in emacs html-helper-mode

[Matt Price]

Hi everyone,

can anyone tell me how to customize the default "skeleton" (what I
think of as a template) for emacs html-helper-mode?  I have three or
four web projects with different looks& feels; I'd like to arrange to
have a different template come up for each of them (or in any case,
I'd like to be able to choose which template I want, without, say,
opening up the file and having to "save as" --- since I'm likely to
forget to tdo that and mess up my template.  

thanks loads,

matt


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wheel mouse

[Mirek Dobsicek]

Hi,

I've new optical mouse Genius NetScroll+ eye. My XF86Config-4 has this 
section:

Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier  "Elf optical mouse"
 Driver  "mouse"
 Option  "CorePointer"
 Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
 Option  "Protocol"  "NetMousePS/2"
EndSection

Mouse move ok, wheel acts as middle button ok, but it does not scroll 
(I'd like to scroll in mozilla and gnome-terminal). I'm running Sarge 
with Gnome 1.4 on kernel 2.4.18.

What's wrong and can be better?

Mirek Dobsicek


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Wav files for answer machine (Diamond Supraexpress 56e) vgetty

[Frank Brodbeck]

Hi,
does anyone has any experience with a vgetty answering machine
using the SupraExpress 56e? Well here's the current state:
I can record incoming messages but can't play them using vm play file.
I need to pipe rmdtopvf file | pvftowav > /dev/audio hear anything.
I can't hear a greeting message. /var/spool/voice/messages/Index
referrs to a existing rmd file...
I converted the wav file this way:
wavtopvf file.wav | pvfspeed -s 7200 | pvftormd Elsa 4 > file.rmd.
Well I guess the Elsa 4 is not the correct type for the SupraExpress
but which one to choose? 
vm diagnostics shows the following:

ATI --> 56000
OK
ATI1--> 030
179
OK
ATI2--> ROM Checksum Verified
OK
ATI3--> Rev 2.000-01 (c) 1993-1998
SupraExpress 56e PRO
OK
ATI4--> OK
ATI5--> OK
ATI6--> 006 GER 00 
OK
ATI7--> RCV56DPF-PLL L8571A Rev 33.00/33.00
OK
ATI8--> OK
ATI9--> OK
AT+FMI? --> ERROR
AT+FMM? --> ERROR
AT+FMR? --> ERROR
AT+IPR=? --> ERROR
AT+FCLASS=? --> 0,1,2,1.0
OK

Can anyone help me out?

Frank.
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Re: Apt errors: Warning: could not lock the cache file.

[DvB]

Sven Hartrumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have installed packages using aptitude when my / partition filled up
> by some /etc ... files (from CUPS packages).
> Installation failed therefore.
> Now, everytime I call aptitude I get:
> "Apt errors: Warning: could not lock the cache file. Opening in read-only
> mode"
> and therefore can not de/select anything in aptitude.
> I have found some lock files for apt and deleted them. But this did not
> solve the problem.
> Any ideas?


I've gotten this type of error when I've accidentally tried to run
apt-get as a regular user. You have to be root in order to install new
packages.


HTH


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Problems in gnome 1.4 with statusbar

[Pontus Ullgren]

Hello,

The statusbar in my Gnome installation doesn't get cleard before "adding"
new text.
(Kind of hard to describe since I don't know the proper english words.)

See this link for a picture:
 http://pontus.ullgren.com/support/nautilus-problem/
(Note the location bar is supposed to be smudged)

It is the same thing in any given application.

I run Unstable, dist-upgraded today.

Plese CC me any ideas I do not subscribe but I will read the archives.

// Pontus Ullgren





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Re: apt-get and /tmp

[Robert James Kaes]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Joey Hess wrote:
> Set APT::ExtractTemplates::TempDir in apt.conf
> 
> Note that noexec filesystems provide little or no protextion against an
> attacker who knows how to execute non-executable binaries with
> ld.so.

Thanks for the information.  I didn't know about the ld.so trick.  I'll
just remove the noexec option from the /tmp directory.
-- Robert

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Problems with mkinitrd-cd / mkbootimg

[Juergen Fiedler]

Hello,

I am trying to create a bootable CD with mkinitrd-cd 0.22, but this
far, I've had no luck. The procedure looks like this: 

mkinitrd-cd /lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4/ initrd.img full
mkbootimg 2880 /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4 initrd.img boot.img
mkisofs -b boot.img -c boot.cat -o ../test.iso .

When I burn the resulting iso file, the syslinux screen comes up and
it even loads the kernel and the initrd image. After that, though, it
prints:

---
Gibraltar 0.99.5 loading, searching for CD 
trying to locate cdrom:
---

and then sits there like a dead fish. The kernel that I used here is
the one that's installed during the installation of the official
Woody. I also tried a handmade kernel, making sure that all
requirements mentioned in /usr/share/doc/mkinitrd-cd/README.gz are
met.

Does anyone have experience with mkinitrd-cd that they would be
willing to share?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Symlink clarification needed (vi -> vim)

[Christoph Claus]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 03:13:32PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote:

> Ordinarily, no.  Generally it's not symlinks that affect the behavior of
> a program.

Programs actually *can* be written to honor the name with which they
are called, e.g. joe does.

lux:~> file /usr/bin/joe /usr/bin/jmacs 
/usr/bin/joe:   ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically 
linked (uses shared libs), stripped
/usr/bin/jmacs: symbolic link to joe

Try running those two -- their shortcuts are quite different...

Christoph


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Little automount problem

[D. J. Bolderman]

Ok, I've setup nis/nfs with autofs on my server, and everything is
working great.  However :), there's one message in my client log file
which I can't seem to track down:

automount[264]: attempting to mount entry /home/.directory
automount[6774]: lookup(yp): looking up .directory 
automount[6774]: lookup(yp): lookup for .directory failed: No such key in map

This happens when I access my homedir.

** auto.home on server

dickbolderman:/home/dick

** auto.master on server

/home   yp:auto.home-rw

I can't seem to find that .directory anywhere. Do you guys know where
that could be misconfigured ?

Thanks for any replies,

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woody bf2.4 install on hp vt6200

[Pekka Sarnila]

The kernel starts ok from rescue floppy.
root disk is read in ok, but then appears screen with language selction.
At that point the keyboard has stopped to function i.e. it hangs with 
that screen on.

Any ideas?

Pekka Sarnila


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Re: dist-upgrade problem with conflicting packages coreutils and shellutils

[Gerhard Gaussling]

Hello Faheem,

Am Montag, 30. September 2002 17:52 schrieb Gerhard Gaussling:
> I don't knoww if it's possible
> to remove it. If it's possible I think I have to reinstall
> shellutils, textutils, and fileutils.

debian:/usr/src# apt-get remove  coreutils
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  coreutils
WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
  coreutils
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0  not 
upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 5329kB will be freed.
You are about to do something potentially harmful
To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
 ?] n
Abort.

This seems to be not a good idea. Maybe apt-get and debconf depends 
on the utilitys, and if they are removed I'll maybe no longer able 
to reinstall textutils, shellutils and fileutils.

regards

gerhard


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Apt errors: Warning: could not lock the cache file.

[Sven Hartrumpf]

I have installed packages using aptitude when my / partition filled up
by some /etc ... files (from CUPS packages).
Installation failed therefore.
Now, everytime I call aptitude I get:
"Apt errors: Warning: could not lock the cache file. Opening in read-only
mode"
and therefore can not de/select anything in aptitude.
I have found some lock files for apt and deleted them. But this did not
solve the problem.
Any ideas?


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