Re: switching between keymaps in X

[Robert Kratky]

hi, (nazdar)

'XkbOptions' is what you want.
for example 'XkbOptions  "grp:shift_toggle"' -- switches keyboard 
layout by pressing both shift-keys
run 'xf86config' for more options.

robert

Hello
I need to configure my X 4.1.0-16 in woody on x86 PC to switch between
different keyboard maps. I need standard us/uk keymap and cz_qwerty
keymap. So I change /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 as follows:

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
   Driver  "keyboard"
   Option  "CoreKeyboard"
   Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
   Option  "XkbModel"  "pc102"
   Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
   Option  "XkbVariant""cz_qwerty"
EndSection


But now I don't know how to switch that 2 keymaps (without restarting
X and replacing XkbLayout). I looked for the solution in archive but
didn't found anything. Old versions of X (3.3.6) use Scroll Lock or
Break.

Please, can you tell me how to solve this


thank you
marek cermak


 



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Re: Exim configuration

[Sebastiaan]

Hi,

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, R Ransbottom wrote:

>
> I receive mail with fetchmail which works fine.
> My system receives mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Local mail works fine.
>
> I send mail with exim which works except in my ISP's domain.
>
> When I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is
> seen as local mail to an unknown user.
>
> How should I make this work?
>
> Preferably I'd like to be able to
> directly send mail to a few hosts.on.localnet.
>
>
Sounds like your ISP is blocking port 25 for other hosts than your ISP
(and localnet, of course). This means that you cannot send mail directly
to other hosts. You have to configure a relay mail host. This is to
prevent spam (many people misconfigured their mailserver, so it became an
open relay: good for spamming).

##
#  ROUTERS CONFIGURATION #
#Specifies how remote addresses are handled  #
##
#  ORDER DOES MATTER #
#  A remote address is passed to each in turn until it is accepted.  #
##

# Remote addresses are those with a domain that does not match any item
# in the "local_domains" setting above.
route_append:
   driver = domainlist
   transport = remote_smtp
   route_list = "* smtp.myisp.nl byname"
   ^
# Stand-alone system, so no routers configured.

end

Works fine.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


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Re: XFree 4.2.x question

[ThanhVu Nguyen]

I use sid and just apt-get dist-upgrade to Xfree 4.2.x   My card is a
Quadro2 MXR, when using the older version of XFree 4.x , it randomly
crashes when switching screen.  This problem hasn't happened eversince I
get 4.2.x ... it has been solid for me.  


On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:01:02 -0400
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> 
>Hello,
> 
>I see that XFree 4.2.1 has made it into unstable a few weeks ago. I
> am curious, has anyone tried to install it? How has that gone? Would
> you say it's better to install from the unstable .debs or manually
> using the XFree installer?
> 
>Thanks
> 
>J.
> 
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Re: Spontaneous Rebooting while in X

[Robert Kratky]

Hi,

This has happened to me a few times before, in 2.2 kernels and 2.4
kernels. I'm not sure where I should start looking first, but I have a
feeling that the X server could be a factor.

The last few times it has happened it was while I was in Mozilla and
clicking quickly on the horozontal scroll bar to move to the right a
screen at at time, and then poof, reboot.

I doubt it is mozilla itself, since unprivleged userspace shouldn't be
able to reboot the system, though X does have access to the
hardware...

This has happened less than 10 times in the past year with different
kernels, and even different X server versions (I'm running
debian-testing). What can I do that might be able to help me narrow
this down a little? 
   


X is hardware intensive. I would start by setting up memtest86 and
running that for a day or so (at least one full cycle). It may just be
that there are processes in X that aren't dying properly so that you
start getting farther into your physical memory and you reach a specific
"bad" spot. If you have the java plugin running in mozilla I've seen it
open a *LOT* of instances of java_vm -- if they don't die properly as
you move from page to page...well...

G


hi,
it doesn't have to be a 'bad' spot necessarily, even though the problem 
is very likely to be memory-related.
i had the same happening to me and it turned out my motherboard didn't 
get along with my memory too well. some mainboards let you turn on 
special memory enhancing options (modes like 'turbo', and the like). 
what solved the issue for me was to turn off (i.e. pput into 'normal') 
this feature.

robert



 



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RE: How to pronounce "Debian"?

[Joyce, Matthew]

I recently read that Brits tend to put emphisis in the leading sylables and
the Americans on the trailing sylables.

...um..i don't really have a point to make.

Matt


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From: Paul Johnson [mailto:baloo@;ursine.dyndns.org] 
Sent: Thursday, 24 October 2002 4:08 PM
To: duser
Subject: Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?


On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:02:16AM +0100, jerry k wrote:
> It's a toss-up for americans.  No-one from the UK would ever say 
> 'Deebian'

I think Commonwealth English influence from western Canada and it's
physical, economic and political ties to the PacNW is probably what causes
us to reflexively pronounce Debian correctly on sight.  I could be wrong,
though.

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Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?

[Paul Johnson]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:02:16AM +0100, jerry k wrote:
> It's a toss-up for americans.  No-one from the UK would ever say 'Deebian'

I think Commonwealth English influence from western Canada and it's
physical, economic and political ties to the PacNW is probably what
causes us to reflexively pronounce Debian correctly on sight.  I could
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Re: .forward

[Steve Juranich]

> Is there a way to set up the .forward file to forward mail to more than
> one user?

You can set up procmail to do such things.  Set your .forward to be 
"|/path/to/procmail" and read the procmail docs.

Have fun.

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Re: .forward

[sean finney]

hey steve

if you have procmail installed you can do something like

:0
* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
:0 c
! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

:0
! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
}

in your .procmailrc file.  if you don't have procmail as
your default delivery agent, you need to put this in your
.forward:

|/usr/bin/procmail

hth, for more info man procmail, man procmailrc, and man procmailex :)
--sean

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:40:48AM -0500, steve wrote:
> Is there a way to set up the .forward file to forward mail to more than
> one user?
> 
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Re: Debian way for adding 3rd party fonts?

[Hubert Chan]

> "Arne" == Arne Goetje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Arne> Hi list, is there a Debian way for adding 3rd party (TrueType)
Arne> fonts when there is no hint file available?
>>  I assume that when you say "hint file", you are talking about defoma
>> hint files.  In that case, you can create your own hint file with
>> defoma-hints.

Arne> exactly... the problem is that defoma-hints does not work with
Arne> these truetype fonts... they are built for M$ system and
Arne> defoma-hints cannot extract the necessary data.

Well, you can always manually enter in all the information that it can't
find.

Arne> The question is, can I put the fonts into
Arne> /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/ and add them myself according to the
Arne> howto, or will it collide with defoma?

Not with defoma, exactly, but with other parts of Debian.  The stuff in
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/ is handled by update-fonts-dir and related scripts,
which get their information from various places such as /etc/X11/fonts.

You can create your own files in /etc/X11/fonts (I haven't tried this),
but I would suggest just creating a /usr/local/share/fonts directory,
and putting your own fonts in there, then pointing the various
applications to that directory.

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Re: which half are you in?

[will trillich]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:54:54PM +1000, bob parker wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 07:29, dave mallery wrote:
> > hi list!
> >
> > there's a saying that all people are in two groups:
> >
> > those who have done an rm -R * in root
> > and those who have not done it yet.

> Many years ago I did manage to get this award on a DEC RSTS/E system with
> PIP *,BAK/DE (the DE switch meaning delete) which returned the error message 
> 'NO SUCH FILE BAK' or something like that. D'oh.
> Luckily the sysop had done a full tape backup the evening before. Phew!

i was born and hatched on dec's rsts/e basic-plus with edt and
teco. pdp-11... those were the glory days!

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DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #128 from Jamin W. Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Looking for a way to clone your Debian system?
Here are a few options:
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- Partition Image
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.forward

[steve]

Is there a way to set up the .forward file to forward mail to more than
one user?


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Re: Problems with internet browsing

[Tom]

checked resolv.conf?
dns might not be resolving
its a simple solution
but its the simple solutions that you think of last

Tom

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From: "Ole Gammelsæter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: Problems with internet browsing


> On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 02:33:46PM +0200, Ole Gammels?ter wrote:
> > I have problems connecting the machines to the internet, or more
> > precisely, they connect fine to the ISP but when I point my browser
> > to any site nothing happens.
>
> Do you have the ipmasq package installed?
>
>
> Yes, the ipmasq package is installed. The idea was to use this machine as
a
> gateway to the internet. The ipmasq package is installed on the other
machine
> also.
>
> Ole
>
>
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Problems with internet browsing

[Ole Gammelsæter]

On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 02:33:46PM +0200, Ole Gammels?ter wrote:
> I have problems connecting the machines to the internet, or more
> precisely, they connect fine to the ISP but when I point my browser
> to any site nothing happens.

Do you have the ipmasq package installed?


Yes, the ipmasq package is installed. The idea was to use this machine as a 
gateway to the internet. The ipmasq package is installed on the other machine 
also.

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Re: sending email w/perl

[Gerald Livingston]

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:26:32 -0500
Lance Hoffmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a script where I am searching ebay
> to get results and email these to myself.
> The filehandle is FILE but everytime I 
> try to insert FILE into the $smtp it
> prints "FILE" and not the contents of file.
> What is the fix for this?
> 
> 
> use WWW::Search;
> open(FILE,">eltonjohn.txt");
> print FILE "Results of a search for Elton John MFSL on ebay\n\n\n\n";
>   my $oSearch = new WWW::Search('Ebay');
>   my $sQuery = WWW::Search::escape_query("Elton John MFSL");
>   $oSearch->native_query($sQuery);
>   while (my $oResult = $oSearch->next_result())
> { print FILE $oResult->url, "\n"; }
> # { print FILE $oResult, "\n"; }
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  SEND EMAIL INFORMING MYSELF OF EBAY RESULTS #
> #e-mail variables
>  $mailsender = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
>  $mailserver = 'mail.augustmail.com';
> # Then you have a subroutine: (You have to have libnet module
> # installed, ask again if you need directions on how to install this
> # module)
> # 
> # ##sends an e-mail
>  #input: subject, mailto, mailbody
>  #output: e-mail
>   
> sub Email{
>#passing the parameters
> ( $subject, $mailto, $mailbody) = @_;
>use Net::SMTP;
>$smtp = Net::SMTP->new($mailserver);
>$smtp->mail($mailsender);
>$smtp->to($mailto);
>$smtp->data();
>$smtp->datasend("Subject: $subject\n");
>$smtp->datasend("To: $mailto\n");
>$smtp->datasend("From: $mailsender\n\n");
> #   $smtp->datasend($mailbody);
>$smtp->datasend(FILE);
>$smtp->datasend();
>$smtp->quit;
>  } #Email
> 
>  &Email('Elton John Ebay Results','[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
> close(FILE);

First, I'm not a programmer -- of any type. Some of my jobs do cause
analytical/logical thinking though. Looking at your script something
didn't look right. 'datasend' seemed to want actual data rather than a
filename and (remember, I don't *know* perl) where is "FILE" ever closed
before attempting to use it for input?

I scanned some perl docs and found this:

**
Net::SMTP - Simple Mail Transfer Protocol Client

data ( [ DATA ] )
Initiate the sending of the data from the current message.

DATA may be a reference to a list or a list. If specified the
contents of DATA and a termination string ".\r\n" is sent to the server.
And the result will be true if the data was accepted.

If DATA is not specified then the result will indicate that the
server wishes the data to be sent. The data must then be sent using the
datasend and dataend methods described in *Cmd*.
***
Net::Cmd - Network Command class (as used by FTP, SMTP etc)

datasend ( DATA )
Send data to the remote server, converting LF to CRLF. Any line
starting with a '.' will be prefixed with another '.'. DATA may be an
array or a reference to an array.
***

 So, it appears that 'datasend' *IS* looking for specific, delimited,
input or a pre-defined array. So, you would most likely have to close
"FILE" then read it back in to an array or read it one line at a time
into the 'datasend' construct.

However, the first 'data ()' instance, right before 'datasend' appears
to be the place to read the file in its entirety (though I still don't
know about the "not closing" the file first thing).

You may just have to read the file into $mailbody using whatever perl
function is used to read a file into a string (saw that done in a
web-email form that used CGI to read the body into $body)

How about this?:

$file = 'FILE'; # Name the file
open(INFO, $file);  # Open the file
@lines = ;# Read it into an array
close(INFO);# Close the file

then your final bit would look like this:

use Net::SMTP;
>$smtp = Net::SMTP->new($mailserver);
>$smtp->mail($mailsender);
>$smtp->to($mailto);
>$smtp->data(@lines);
>$smtp->quit;
>  } #Email

  Someone beat me with a wet noodle if I'm way off base. Just in a
reading/studying mood tonight.

G

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Re: upgrade kernel from 2.2 to 2.4

[Arash Bijanzadeh]

I know this man! I did all but there is something in init script I guess. 
Don't you get warnings about readonly root while booting? I do get a lot and 
I wanna get rid of 'em. And the errors is understandable. the old 2.2 mounts 
/dev/hdax as root and could write te log files on it, but the 2.4 mount 
initrd.img as root so meanwhile the changing the root to actuale one it 
couldn't write on it. Any tips?
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 12:29:02PM +0330, Arash Bijanzadeh wrote:
> > I got to upgrade my kernel from 2.2 to 2.4
> > It is ok but because 2.4 using initrd.img so there is some problems init
> > proccess. I tgives some errors about ReadOnly file system and also
> > couldn't find mtab.
> > Anybody have information about this matter?
>
> i just did that on my server at work -- when you do the install,
> lots of text flies by and of course some of it is important.
>
>   TIP: you can scroll up and down your console buffer [and
>   xterm or rxvt windows] using shift-pageUp and
>   shift-pageDown.
>
> there's a line you need in your /etc/lilo.conf inside the
> "image=/vmlinuz" section:
>
>   initrd=/initrd.img
>
> my whole stanza now looks like this -- pretty plain vanilla:
>
>   image=/vmlinuz
>   label=Linux
>   read-only
>   initrd=/initrd.img
>   #   restricted
>   #   alias=1
>
> of course, the install process should also make sure that the
> file /initrd.img exists -- here's mine:
>
>   # ls -l /initrd.img
>   lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  root   initrd.img -> /boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-k6
>
> the file it's linked to will depend on your architecture -- mine
> is an AMD K6.
>
> and whenever you munge lilo.conf, be sure to run lilo
> afterwards, which reads the config file and actually writes the
> boot info to your disk.
>
> of course, there may be other gremlins loose in your situation,
> but this is something easy to try.


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Re: Replace MS Exchange

[Eric G. Miller]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 02:05:26PM +1000, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone done any research into completely replacing an existing MS
> Exchange email setup ?
> I have Exchange 5.5 with PC and Mac clients, they use a mixture of Eudora or
> Outlook.
> 
> We are about to expand some, and I will have to replace the current server
> wityha bigger one, and buy a heap of lecenses for the new clients.
[snip]
> Any ideas ?

Bynari reportedly sells a solution that supposedly works as a drop in
replacement for Exchange from the clients perspective.  AFAIK, it's mostly
free software with some proprietary glue (no idea how well it works...).

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Re: Exim configuration

[R Ransbottom]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 09:11:24PM -0500, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
> 
> R> I send mail with exim which works except in my ISP's domain.
> 
> R> When I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is seen as local
> R> mail to an unknown user.
> 
> R> How should I make this work?
> 
> My guess is you have attbi.com listed in local_domains in exim.conf.

Yes, it is. 

> What does 'exim -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]' say? 

It says:

user "nonesuch" for file existence test not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is undeliverable:
  unknown local-part "nonesuch" in domain "attbi.com"

> R> Preferably I'd like to be able to directly send mail to a few
> R> hosts.on.localnet.
> 
> Sorrywould you explain that some more? 

I'd like to use the ISP's smtp server as my smarthost except for
a few specific hosts or a private/bogus domain referring to my localnet.

Thank you.

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Re: Debian Gamers/Developers

[Tom]

i know there are a couple guys based in melbourne that play games on mainly
debian boxes but there are some redhat users.

url is http://linuxgamers.net
although that site is rarely updated
if you have any problems you could drop them a line in regards to having any
issues with linux based games or even games under wine.

they seem to have alot of stuff sorted out when it comes to linux gaming
the guys who runs the site also is heavily into GBA hacking
you can even catch them on openprojects in #lgl

Tom

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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: Debian Gamers/Developers


> I submitted a bug report stating that some of us would like a
> debian-gamedev or debian-devel-games mailing list created. We'll see how
> it turns out.
> B-)
> Gianfranco
>
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Replace MS Exchange

[Joyce, Matthew]

Hi,

Has anyone done any research into completely replacing an existing MS
Exchange email setup ?
I have Exchange 5.5 with PC and Mac clients, they use a mixture of Eudora or
Outlook.

We are about to expand some, and I will have to replace the current server
wityha bigger one, and buy a heap of lecenses for the new clients.

I just wondered if it was feasably to make the move over to a linux based
email server.

Cirtainly the majority of the mac clients only use pop3 or imap features of
the server, but there are a good few who use the calendaring and public
folders.

I would like to offer webmail, which seems easier with linux.
I have use SquirrrelMail as a webmail to Exchange via IMAP before (test) but
it create some odd folders in the mail box and the MS mail objects such as
meeting requests and notes and stuff were not understood.

Any ideas ?

Matt


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RE: Making one machine an "apt server" for others....

[Joyce, Matthew]

Title: Message



Possibly apt-proxy or apt-move
 
I have 
not done this myself, but I am mildly interested.
 
 
Package: apt-movePriority: optionalSection: 
adminInstalled-Size: 164Maintainer: Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Architecture: 
i386Version: 4.1.21Depends: awk, bc (>= 1.05a-6), dpkg-dev (>= 
1.4.1.6), debianutils (>= 1.13.1), libapt-pkg-libc6.2-3-2-3.2, libc6 (>= 
2.2.4-4), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810)Recommends: 
aptFilename: pool/main/a/apt-move/apt-move_4.1.21_i386.debSize: 
38278MD5Sum: 2a1507a02f76ff4e65fd7e046d8495c2Description: Move cache of 
Debian packages into a mirror hierarchy apt-move is used to move a 
collection of Debian package files into a proper archive hierarchy of 
the form debian/dists/...  It is intended as a tool to help manage 
the apt-get(8) file cache, but could be configured to work with any 
collection of Debian packages. . Running apt-move periodically 
will assist in managing the resulting partial mirror by optionally 
removing obsolete packages, and creating valid local Packages.gz 
files.  It can also optionally employ rsync(1) to build a partial 
or complete local mirror of a Debian binary distribution (including an 
``installed-packages only'' mirror).
 
 
Package: apt-proxyPriority: extraSection: 
adminInstalled-Size: 85Maintainer: Chris Halls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Architecture: 
allVersion: 1.3.0Depends: wget | rsync, grep-dctrl, tcpd, netbase, 
ashRecommends: aptSuggests: wget, rsync, dpkg-dev, statFilename: 
pool/main/a/apt-proxy/apt-proxy_1.3.0_all.debSize: 30192MD5Sum: 
802065ad51f1827e61e0217337288d1cDescription: Debian archive proxy and 
partial mirror builder apt-proxy automatically builds a Debian HTTP 
mirror based on requests which pass through the proxy.  It's great 
for multiple Debian machines on the same network with a 
slower internet link. . The archive is automatically 
kept up to date using http, ftp or rsync.  Cache cleaning of 
unused and old versions is configurable.  You can also import the 
contents of your apt cache into the archive using 
apt-proxy-import. . For more information, see the apt-proxy 
homepage at http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net . The 
suggested packages are needed for the following features: wget for 
http/ftp backend support, rsync for rsyncd backends, dpkg-dev for 
apt-proxy-import and stat for improved apt-proxy 
performance.
 
 
Matt

  
  -Original Message-From: Joe Emenaker 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 24 October 2002 1:02 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Making one 
  machine an "apt server" for others
  Some of my coworkers want to dabble in grid 
  computing, so they got themselves about 7 old PC's and they wanted to set them 
  up.
   
  I put Debian on all of them, but I wanted to be 
  able to keep them up-to-date without having all 7 hit the package servers. 
  Since they are all configured the same, I figure, if one of them needs a new 
  package, then they'll all need it.
   
  So, I got to thinking... why can't machine "A" do 
  a normal upgrade and save all of its .deb packages. Then, all of the other 
  machines would have their sources.list file pointed to machine "A" and they'd 
  just hit *that* machine for their updates.
   
  I know that apt saves its packages in 
  /var/cache/apt, so that's not a problem. The problem, to me, is in generating 
  the Packages and Release files. Is there an easy way to do this?
   
  - Joe

Re: local Mail: naive question

[Jeff]

Auke Jilderda, 2002-Oct-23 20:47 +0200:
> Ofcourse you can go fo either the most simple setup or a more flexible
> one.
> 
> Jeff is looking for a simple setup which would, in my humble opinion,
> probably be some MUA (e.g. Mozilla) fetch mails directly from your POP3
> and IMAP accounts and sending mail through your ISP's mailserver.

Yup, that's what I was going for.
 
> Nate described a much more flexible setup which I, in fact, have.  In my
> setup, fetchmail fetches my mail from various POP3 accounts and delivers
> it through Exim and procmail to the proper mailboxes.  The courier-imap
> server provides access to the mailboxes, giving me both location and MUA
> independence.  My reasons for wanting those two capabilities is that I
> want a text based client (Mutt) when on the road and without proper
> mouse and keyboard and a GUI client (KMail, Ximian Evolution,
> SquirrelMail) when at my dockingstation.  Ofcourse I can send you my
> config files and a more detailed description of my setup if you'd like.

Personally, I prefer and use this for the flexibility too.  I use
mutt, postfix, maildrop and fetchmail.

> In addition, it is wise to install a mailserver on your local machine if
> only because lots of daemons would like to use it to tell you things.

This is the only thing I haven't done [yet].  It's on my list to do though.

> 
> Auke

cya,
jc

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Re: Debian Gamers/Developers

[Gianfranco Berardi]

I submitted a bug report stating that some of us would like a 
debian-gamedev or debian-devel-games mailing list created. We'll see how 
it turns out.
B-)
Gianfranco


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Re: Still having trouble with ripping/burning CDs

[Steve Juranich]

> In most cases it should.  Have you tried disconnecting the DVD drive and
> connecting the CD-RW drive as the only device on the second controller?

Okay, I've done that now.  As proof:

coffee (foo)$ cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 1.11a34 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.22
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) '' '40X12X48 CD-RW  ' '1.05' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *

It still doesn't work. I still don't understand how that was supposed 
to help?  Now that we know it doesn't work, how does that help us?  I'm 
not trying to be a jerk, honestly.  This is a legitimate question.

Thanks for all of the help.  Keep it coming! :-D


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Re: XFree 4.2.x question

[Nathan E Norman]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 11:03:12AM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 02:28:11PM -0500, Nick Traxler wrote:
> > Just one thing--back up /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 before you install 4.2.
> > I've apt-gotten 2 revisions from unstable, and it overwrote my
> > XF86Config both times. Pretty annoying.
> 
> You once told debconf to manage your XF86Config-4.  Run
> `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and tell it to let you do it
> yourself.

 ... or put your changes outside the debconf managed section, which is
clearly explained in the comments in the file.

-- 
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  See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create
  jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something.  But
  the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs.
  -- Dave Barry


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Re: [OT] - Interesting politics and the GPL

[Craig Dickson]

Jamin W. Collins wrote:

> I understand the concept of the BSD style license(s) (I think), but fail
> to see why it would be acceptable as a license for anything federally
> funded.  With a BSD style license, anyone is free to take the result (at
> any stage) and create a closed (possibly enhanced) proprietary
> implementation.  Why should this be allowed for something paid for by
> the public's tax dollars?  The public has already paid for a good
> portion (if not all) of the item through federal funding.  Now it can be
> incorporated into a proprietary application and the public winds up
> paying for it twice?

Well, remember that corporations are taxpayers too. One could reasonably
argue that it is just as improper to deny them the full use of publicly-
funded code is it would be to deny any individual American citizen.

Still, a protection against "embrace and extend" seems warranted, to
prevent the public's property from effectively becoming the private
property of Microsoft or some other predatory company. That's why I
would favor a more LGPL-like license over BSD or X.

> While some see the GPL's requirement, that any enhancements/changes be
> released if the modified version is distributed, as restrictive.

That's not the problem so much as the "if you link to GPL code, you must
release your code as GPL" part. The inability to incorporate GPL code,
even unmodified, into closed-source products is the bigger issue.

Craig


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Re: Making one machine an "apt server" for others....

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 23:05, Joe Emenaker wrote:
> Some of my coworkers want to dabble in grid computing, so they got themselves about 
>7 old PC's and they wanted to set them up.
> 
> I put Debian on all of them, but I wanted to be able to keep them up-to-date without 
>having all 7 hit the package servers. Since they are all configured the same, I 
>figure, if one of them needs a new package, then they'll all need it.
> 
> So, I got to thinking... why can't machine "A" do a normal upgrade and save all of 
>its .deb packages. Then, all of the other machines would have their sources.list file 
>pointed to machine "A" and they'd just hit *that* machine for their updates.
> 
> I know that apt saves its packages in /var/cache/apt, so that's not a problem. The 
>problem, to me, is in generating the Packages and Release files. Is there an easy way 
>to do this?
> 
> - Joe

I'd suspect that isn't a *great* idea - you'd need to regenerate the
packages and release files after each upgrade of the primary machine. An
alternative: use the same sources.list files, and export /var/cache/apt
from the primary machine. When you run apt-get upgrade on each of the
other machines, they will see the packages and release files for the
various source servers as up-to-date, and all of the requested files as
already downloaded, and proceed to install them from the lan - no need
to worry about regenerating local files then.
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Xserver mysteriously dieing

[Scott Henson]

Recently my X server has been dying unexpectedly and unpredictably.  I
was wondering if anyone could help me diagnose this problem.  I am
running Unstable with Xfree86 4.2.1 and Gnome2 packages from
experimental.  This seems to occur when my computer is idle or possibly
when I lock the screen(using xscreen-saver).  I am totally stumped on
this one.  In my logs I see almost nothing.  In ~/.xsession-errors I
have basically this error repeated over and over again:
FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0

Also the only thing I can find in my system wide logs are:
log/XFree86.0.log:AUDIT: Wed Oct 23 18:44:04 2002: 2812 X: client 2
rejected from local host
log/messages:Oct 23 18:44:00 GreyGhost gconfd (shenson2-451): Received
signal 15, shutting down cleanly
log/messages:Oct 23 18:44:00 GreyGhost gconfd (shenson2-451): Exiting
log/daemon.log:Oct 23 18:44:00 GreyGhost kdm[391]: Server for display :0
terminated unexpectedly
log/daemon.log:Oct 23 18:44:04 GreyGhost kdm[2813]: session start failed
log/syslog:Oct 23 18:44:00 GreyGhost kdm[391]: Server for display :0
terminated unexpectedly

Any help? Thanks

-Scott Henson


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Re: Debian way for adding 3rd party fonts?

[Arne Goetje]

> Arne> Hi list, is there a Debian way for adding 3rd party (TrueType)
> Arne> fonts when there is no hint file available?
>
> I assume that when you say "hint file", you are talking about defoma
> hint files.  In that case, you can create your own hint file with
> defoma-hints.

exactly... the problem is that defoma-hints does not work with these 
truetype fonts... they are built for M$ system and defoma-hints cannot 
extract the necessary data.

The question is, can I put the fonts into /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/ and 
add them myself according to the howto, or will it collide with defoma?

Another question would be how to make ghostscript to know the fonts.

Cheers
Arne


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Making one machine an "apt server" for others....

[Joe Emenaker]

Some of my coworkers want to dabble in grid 
computing, so they got themselves about 7 old PC's and they wanted to set them 
up.
 
I put Debian on all of them, but I wanted to be 
able to keep them up-to-date without having all 7 hit the package servers. Since 
they are all configured the same, I figure, if one of them needs a new package, 
then they'll all need it.
 
So, I got to thinking... why can't machine "A" do a 
normal upgrade and save all of its .deb packages. Then, all of the other 
machines would have their sources.list file pointed to machine "A" and they'd 
just hit *that* machine for their updates.
 
I know that apt saves its packages in 
/var/cache/apt, so that's not a problem. The problem, to me, is in generating 
the Packages and Release files. Is there an easy way to do this?
 
- Joe

Re: which half are you in?

[bob parker]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 07:29, dave mallery wrote:
> hi list!
>
> there's a saying that all people are in two groups:
>
> those who have done an rm -R * in root
> and those who have not done it yet.
>
> last evening, i joined the former group after six years of linux and a
> lifetime of computing.
>
> one learns vast humility in milliseconds.  no matter how fast you hit a
> control/c, almost everything is gone... there are no programs left to
> run!
>
> unbelieveably, i did this rm -R as i was cleaning up after a new system
> backup.  i had been using mondo, but the mindi portion of it had stopped
> working a few weeks ago and was still dead.  (in testing, these things
> seem to clean up after a few weeks of upgrades)
>
I haven't managed to do it in Debian yet ( 3 weeks old ) or Mandrake the year 
before.

But back in the days of good ol' Wonders98 and 98se I used to do the same 
deliberately and of necessity as in format c: every several months.

Many years ago I did manage to get this award on a DEC RSTS/E system with
PIP *,BAK/DE (the DE switch meaning delete) which returned the error message 
'NO SUCH FILE BAK' or something like that. D'oh.
Luckily the sysop had done a full tape backup the evening before. Phew!

Bob


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Re: From Modem to DSL or Sask-Tel Enhanced High Speed Internet

[Dan.Hunt]

I love my Debian GNU Linux, thank you everyone.
  
On 23 Oct 2002 at 13:59, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:

> On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 09:48, Dan.Hunt wrote:
> > Hello Debian Users
> > I am migrating my Woody firewall machine from dial up modem to
> > static IP DSL. In Saskatchewan Canada that's Sask-Tel Enhanced High
> > Speed Internet.
> > 
> > I put the second NIC into the last pci slot. It is a DLINK
> > DFE-538TX/R that usees the RTL8139 or the 8139too module.
> 
> Just to check - are you certain that the 538TX/R uses the RTL8139 or
> 8139too module? I have to admit that I lose track of the variations in
> the DLink 538 cards, but I know that the 538 I have uses the Via-Rhine
> module - I just can't recall or find quick documentation whether it is
> the TX or TX/R. > > They are both compiled into the Kernel ( 2.14 ? )
> as modules. > > As this is my second NIC I am struggling to get the
> card recognized at boot > up. > > I know the card works because I am
> using it now in M$ to send this plea. > > Would someone like to point
> me to a document?  The Ethernet howto has me > confused. -- Mark L.
> Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets
> Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Before DSL I had to have a Modem Gateway Firewall box, because of the 
equipment I had to work with. PCI Winmodems should be illegal.
Does anyone run a Debian GNU/Linux box with DSL and no firewall?
apt-get install "something-amazing-for-DSL"

I am running kernel 2.4.18

Mark,  I'm not sure, the floppy it came with had a Linux directory and 
contained a file rtl8139.c  along with step by step instructions  for "red toque 
6.x" that would not work. I Googled and found something about a type error in 
the file. 
Even after the "typo" it was fixed the step by step instructions would not  
work. 

I have attached my fresh nohup.out file. Perhaps it contains a symptom of my 
network woes. 

Dan Hunt 
Microsoft must rebrand the name of the product, Windows. Security is a key 
problem and the flagship product is named after a hole in an otherwise secure 
structure, covered with a fragile and transparent matter. How about this: 
Microsoft Concrete 3.11 ?







00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 430FX - 82437FX TSC [Triton I] (rev 02)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
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10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371FB PIIX ISA [Triton I] (rev 02)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
00: 86 80 2e 12 0f 00 80 02 02 00 01 06 00 00 80 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371FB PIIX IDE [Triton I] (rev 02) (prog-if 80 
[Master])
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
I/O ports at 3000 [size=16]
00: 86 80 30 12 05 00 80 02 02 80 01 01 00 20 00 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 01 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21041 [Tulip Pass 
3] (rev 11)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
I/O ports at 6000 [size=128]
Memory at f100 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128]
Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=256K]
00: 11 10 14 00 07 00 80 02 11 00 00 02 00 20 00 00
10: 01 60 00 00 00 00 00 f1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0a 01 00 00

00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5446 (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
Memory at f000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=16M]
Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=32K]
00: 13 10 b8 00 03 00 00 02 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00
10: 08 00 00 f0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10)
Subsystem: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 9
I/O ports at 6100 [size=256]
Memory at f1001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
00: 86 11 00 13 07 00 90 02 10 00 00 02 00 20 00 00
10: 01 61 00 00 00 10 00 f1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 11 00 13
30: 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 01 20 40

Linux version 2.4.18 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian 
prerelease)) #2 SMP Mon Jul 22 17:47:02 CST 2002
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 000a (usable)
 BIOS-e8

Re: Real-time window manager switching

[Geordie Birch]

said csj (on 2002-10-24),

> I managed to find out Ion's "restart_other" option, but with Ratpoison I
> appear to be trapped. I need to log-out of my XSession before I can
> change WM.

CTRL-t : newwm afterstep




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wxpython 2.3

[Petr Vanek]

hi,

does enybody have a deb package of subj for woody? i am trying to
compile it by myself, but i do not have a luck and i am not really
expirienced in that...i am trying to get boa constructor working on
woody...


thanks very much

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sending email w/perl

[Lance Hoffmeyer]

I have a script where I am searching ebay
to get results and email these to myself.
The filehandle is FILE but everytime I 
try to insert FILE into the $smtp it
prints "FILE" and not the contents of file.
What is the fix for this?


use WWW::Search;
open(FILE,">eltonjohn.txt");
print FILE "Results of a search for Elton John MFSL on ebay\n\n\n\n";
  my $oSearch = new WWW::Search('Ebay');
  my $sQuery = WWW::Search::escape_query("Elton John MFSL");
  $oSearch->native_query($sQuery);
  while (my $oResult = $oSearch->next_result())
{ print FILE $oResult->url, "\n"; }
# { print FILE $oResult, "\n"; }




 SEND EMAIL INFORMING MYSELF OF EBAY RESULTS #
#e-mail variables
 $mailsender = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
 $mailserver = 'mail.augustmail.com';
# Then you have a subroutine: (You have to have libnet module installed, ask again if 
you need directions on how to install this module)
  #sends an e-mail
 #input: subject, mailto, mailbody
 #output: e-mail
  
sub Email{
   #passing the parameters
( $subject, $mailto, $mailbody) = @_;
   use Net::SMTP;
   $smtp = Net::SMTP->new($mailserver);
   $smtp->mail($mailsender);
   $smtp->to($mailto);
   $smtp->data();
   $smtp->datasend("Subject: $subject\n");
   $smtp->datasend("To: $mailto\n");
   $smtp->datasend("From: $mailsender\n\n");
#   $smtp->datasend($mailbody);
   $smtp->datasend(FILE);
   $smtp->datasend();
   $smtp->quit;
 } #Email

 &Email('Elton John Ebay Results','[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
close(FILE);









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Re: Spontaneous Rebooting while in X

[Gerald Livingston]

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:36:17 -0700
Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> This has happened to me a few times before, in 2.2 kernels and 2.4
> kernels. I'm not sure where I should start looking first, but I have a
> feeling that the X server could be a factor.
> 
> The last few times it has happened it was while I was in Mozilla and
> clicking quickly on the horozontal scroll bar to move to the right a
> screen at at time, and then poof, reboot.
> 
> I doubt it is mozilla itself, since unprivleged userspace shouldn't be
> able to reboot the system, though X does have access to the
> hardware...
> 
> This has happened less than 10 times in the past year with different
> kernels, and even different X server versions (I'm running
> debian-testing). What can I do that might be able to help me narrow
> this down a little? 

X is hardware intensive. I would start by setting up memtest86 and
running that for a day or so (at least one full cycle). It may just be
that there are processes in X that aren't dying properly so that you
start getting farther into your physical memory and you reach a specific
"bad" spot. If you have the java plugin running in mozilla I've seen it
open a *LOT* of instances of java_vm -- if they don't die properly as
you move from page to page...well...

G

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Re: Exim configuration

[Shyamal Prasad]

"R" == R Ransbottom  writes:

R> I send mail with exim which works except in my ISP's domain.

R> When I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is seen as local
R> mail to an unknown user.

R> How should I make this work?

My guess is you have attbi.com listed in local_domains in exim.conf.

What does 'exim -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]' say? 

R> Preferably I'd like to be able to directly send mail to a few
R> hosts.on.localnet.

Sorrywould you explain that some more? 

Cheers!
Shyamal



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Re: Where to put .Xmodmap ?

[Russell]

John Keniry wrote:
> 
> I would like xmodmap .Xmodmap to run every time I startx. I did think
> that simply placing the .Xmodmap in my $HOME would be enough but the X
> scripts don't use it.
> 
> I also tried creating a $HOME/.xsessions file but even if this is empty
> it causes X to fail to start (but leaves no traces in the log).

Maybe you should use ~/.Xsession

> 
> The other alternative is to put it in the .kde/autostart directory but,
> well there must be a WM neutral place this should go.
> 
> Any ideas?


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X 4.1.0 - is there gatos code?

[Neal Lippman]

I was wondering if any knows of the "official" XF 4.1.0 debs in woody
include any gatos code? I am planning to hook up an ati radeon 7500 dual
port (DVI-I and VGA) card, and have been advised that the drivers
modified with "gatos" project code do not work properly. 

Thanks.

nl




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Re: [OT] - Interesting politics and the GPL

[Eric G. Miller]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:36:05PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:

> government funding. That's a legitimate issue. Software developed by the
> government, or under government contract, ideally should be considered
> to be in the public domain; the government, representing the people,
> paid for its development, so one could reasonably argue that it should
> be freely reusable by any American citizen for any purpose, including

Title 17 U.S.C.

§ 105. Subject matter of copyright: United States Government works

Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of
the United States Government, but the United States Government is not
precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by
assignment, bequest, or otherwise. 

Obviously that isn't the whole story (and this only only the federal
government...).

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Re: Knoppix: Was: The *ONLY* real problem with Debian...

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> Unless the machine is low on RAM (32MB for non-GUI mode I believe; 96 or 
>  so for KDE mode), forcing Knoppix to use the hard drive for swap 
> space, the hard drives are mounted read-only in my experience. Once in, 
> you can remount them rw.

What the...

How can a swap partition be read-only?  How can a disk be used as swap
without overwriting (probably FAT32) partitions on the disk?

Tom
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refreshing wmaker screen

[Lance Hoffmeyer]

I am grabbing images from NWS and putting
them on my desktop background.  Is there
a command I can insert in .xinitrc or somewhere
else that will refresh (restart in the menu)
the screen so that it will update the images
every 30 minutes or so?

Lance


I am using wmaker as my window manager


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Re: XFree 4.2.x question

[bob]

>I see that XFree 4.2.1 has made it into unstable a few weeks ago. I
> am curious, has anyone tried to install it? How has that gone? Would you
> say it's better to install from the unstable .debs or manually using the
> XFree installer?

Don't if it was the specific problem, but I had random, frequent (once a
day at least) keyboard & mouse lockups requiring a reboot starting soon
after the XFree upgrade (via apt-get dist-upgrade).  It was so
frustrating I reinstalled testing.  Before that, unstable would go for
weeks without problems for me.
Bob Scott



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Re: Real-time window manager switching

[Kevin Coyner]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:22:21AM +0800, csj wrote..

> I managed to find out Ion's "restart_other" option, but with Ratpoison I
> appear to be trapped. I need to log-out of my XSession before I can
> change WM.
 
 I just started using Ion and quite like it, but haven't yet discovered
 the "restart_other" option that you mention.  I'd like to use something
 like that to start Fluxbox up when I need to run Gimp.  Could you
 please provide a pointer as to where it is?

 Thanks
 Kevin

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Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?

[Tom Cook]

On  0, will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> all that remains is determining the 'right' sylLAble (and finding
> the etymological heritage of each and every word). :)

You have hit the nail right, squarely on the head here.  A word's
pronunciation depends entirely on its history.  Since English is a
horrid combination of French, middle German and Latin, with some Norse
and (a little bit of) Spanish thrown in for good measure, how a word
is pronounced depends entirely on which language its roots are in.
The "caliope" example is in fact a bit misleading, since it is not
spelt that way.  The word is in fact calliope, and its pronunciation
is cal-LEYE-op-ee; the extra 'l' affecting the pronunciation is a
(fairly) regular pattern in English, especially in the parts derived
from Latin or French (mostly from Latin anyway).  I think.
IANALinguist.

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Re: exim troubles - is there an end to this?

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:

Sandip> - what is wrong with my exim.conf?

If that is the *entire* exim.conf that you posted then you have many,
many things missing. Start over. Run eximconfig, choose smart host,
give the NT smart host IP address for the smart host. Edit the created
conf file, change bydns_a to byname.

Sandip> - what are message is frozen messages?

Messages are frozen if they cannot be delivered due to a possibly
transient error. The command 'exim -bp' will show you all the messages
on your queue, with the frozen ones clearly identified. The command
'exim -Mrm' can be used to clean them out. The eximon X application
provides an easier way to do this. I suggest you clean out all frozen
messages before you do any tests. 

Sandip> - what do i need to do so that i am able to send messages
Sandip> using exim?

I'm beginning to wonder myself :-) At least I'm learning a lot about
exim from your questions.

Like I said, start with a clean file generated by eximconfig. Try
exactly one message. If it fails, use 'exim -bt' and other options to
determine why.

By the way, I noticed in your exim log that the "From" addresses had a
domain part. How did you get that set up?

Cheers!
Shyamal


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Re: setting up static IP

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Richard" == Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Richard> How do I go about telling my router on my home network
Richard> that I want to use a fixed IP address on my Debian box?
Richard> It needs to be fixed so that the other PC on the system
Richard> can retrieve mail from it.  At the moment the router
Richard> seems to allocate 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3 to both
Richard> machines at varying times, according to whether one is
Richard> switched off/on.

It would depend on the router. If the router supports it, the easiest
thing is to tell it to give out DHCP addresses in a limited range (say
192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.100), and then assign a fixed IP address
outside this range (e.g. 192.168.0.101) to the Debian box ('man
interfaces' for details).

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Re: Software RAID in Woody --- General Issues

[Lucas Barbuto]

Hi List,

Thanks nate and Alvin for your helpful advice.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 08:24:43PM -0700, nate wrote:
> depends on the setup. I usually do this where possible. I haven't
> read the HOWTO but it's not the easiest thing to do. I've done it on
> both SCSI and IDE systems. It involved(for me) installing to a different
> disk(not part of the array), once the base system is running and you
> have the raidtools and kernel setup the way you want, make a bootdisk,
> power down, hook the drives your gonna use for raid up in their
> final positions(even if it means moving the current disk to another
> controller/channel), boot up with the floppy by specifying the root
> filesystem on the original disk(not the soon-to-be-raid). configure
> the raid array and create it(I personally use 2.2.19+ raid 0.90 patch).
> switch to single user mode, copy the files over, update lilo and fstab,
> reboot and it should come up..been a few months since I last did it.

I've now read four different (though similar) methods for doing this.
My head is spinning a bit but I think I'll give it a shot :)

> you don't mention what kernel your using or what tools your using.
> I think there are 2 tools. raidtools and raidtools2. raidtools works only
> on 2.2.x kernels, raidtools2 works only on 2.4.x kernels(some 2.3.x too)
> or 2.2.x kernels with a special patch. raidtools2 (aka raid 0.90) supports
> background rebuilding, as well as bootable raid1(not sure if raid 0.36
> aka raidtools supports bootable raid1).

Yeah, sorry.  It's a 2.4.18 kernel, i386 hardware, two identical IDE
drives, nothing special.  I'm using the raidtools2 package from Woody.
I've since managed to get software RAID-1 working on all partitions
except "/", I think my boot and RAID problems were related more to
shoddy hardware in one of the machines that I'm working on, because
I've had no problems doing the exact same thing on the other one.

> for simplist and most reliable operation use SCSI disks on a supported
> SCSI raid controller(e.g. Mylex Acceleraid). And if nor not sure I
> would probably run some tests so you know how to recover from a failure.
> With raid 0.36 it was easy enough, the partitions were exact mirrors
> of each other, i just had to boot from CD, re-load lilo onto the other
> disk and keep goin. I haven't tested recovery from raid 0.90 but the
> process is probably similar. What is most important to me is not
> maintaining uptime during an outage but having a disk with a good copy
> of the data if the other goes down.

Sadly, budget is a fairly serious issue and I tend to get given the
hardware that our company can get cheaply and easily rather than what
might be best for the purpose.  I think I'll persevere with the software
RAID for the time being and perhaps push for some kind of SCSI/hardware
RAID setup when I'm a bit more comfortable with things.

Thanks again for the help.

Regards,

Lucas


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Re: 386 or 486 machine

[Mike Thompson]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 11:41:31PM +0100, Rupert wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:24:01 +0400
> Andrei Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > is it possible to put Debian on a 386 or 486?
> 
> I put Debian Woody on a 486sx/25 with 8mb ram. Actually I cheated: I
> installed by attaching the hard disk to a more powerful motherboard, and
> then attached it to the older box. I can apt-get things, but it tends to
> take about half an hour for new software to seep into the package
> database. If I ever want to upgrade, I can always reattach it to the
> more powerful system, or just get it started and wait a week ;)
> 
> Rupert

I have debian on a 486 with 20M memory using icewm for xwindow manager
to run gnumeric.  The complete install is ~450M.  I use mutt for email
and lynx for browsing.

Mike Thompson


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Re: [OT] - Interesting politics and the GPL

[Barney Wrightson]

Craig Dickson wrote:


As to the present topic, the NewsForge/Slashdot headlines about a
congressman wanting to "outlaw the GPL" are misleading and inflammatory
-- dishonest journalism at its worst. As far as I can tell, this has
nothing to do with outlawing the GPL. The issue is deciding on a license
to recommend or mandate for use with software that is developed under
government funding. That's a legitimate issue. Software developed by the
government, or under government contract, ideally should be considered
to be in the public domain; the government, representing the people,
paid for its development, so one could reasonably argue that it should
be freely reusable by any American citizen for any purpose, including
incorporating it into proprietary products, developing proprietary
extensions, etc. On the other hand, one could argue that the GPL is the
best way of ensuring that this publicly-funded software is used to the
maximal benefit of the people as a whole. Which side of the debate one
takes is likely to be predictable from one's general view of the free
software movement, but neither position seems inherently right or wrong
to me.

My view is that the GPL is a bit too strong for publicly-funded code,
but BSD/X is a bit too weak, since, as I understand them, they do not
discourage Microsoft's "embrace and extend" strategy. Something closer
to the LGPL might do the job nicely. You should be able to use
publicly-funded code in closed-source products, but alterations to the
publicly-funded code should be required to be released under the same
license as the original code. This would allow everyone to use the code
for any purpose, but prevent "embrace and extend" takeovers.

Craig


While the heading is wrong (blatant FUD), it still would seem the the 
focus of the proposed bill is not to encourage licences that are less 
restrictive than the GPL. On the contrary it suggests that the 
government sell the government(public) IP to companies and let them do 
what they want with it.

I think the best solution would be to mandate that code be released 
publicly under the GPL, and also allow code to be sold to companies on a 
non-exclusive basis under a non-GPL license that allowed them to modify 
and sell the modified product as they wish. This allows companies to 
value-add and onsell, while still allowing the public to have access to 
the publicly funded work, without the proprietary modifications. There 
is nothing stopping the author of a piece of code from releasing under 
multiple licences. (Provided their work isn't based on previous GPL'd 
work they don't own of course).

Barney



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Re: XFree 4.2.x question

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 02:28:11PM -0500, Nick Traxler wrote:
> Just one thing--back up /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 before you install 4.2.
> I've apt-gotten 2 revisions from unstable, and it overwrote my
> XF86Config both times. Pretty annoying.

You once told debconf to manage your XF86Config-4.  Run
`dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and tell it to let you do it
yourself.

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Re: exim with both smarthost and direct send

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:

Sandip> Patrik Modesto wrote:
>> Hi, First: I'm using Debian testing, daily updated as my home
>> PC, exim is setup to send outgoing mail directly to MX record.
>> 
Sandip> how did you do this? what is your setup? i had been
Sandip> struggling with this for ages now!

Okay, Sandip. I'll just give you the answer, and let you figure out
why it works. Hint: section 31 of the exim specification manual ;-)

lookup:
  driver = lookuphost
  transport = remote_smtp
  ignore_target_hosts = 127.0.0.0/8

It goes in the router section.

Here is another clue:

1) Copy your /etc/exim/exim.conf file to ~/exim.conf

2) Add the above entry in the right place (start if the routers
section) 

3) Run '/usr/sbin/exim -C ~/exim.conf -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

4) Run '/usr/sbin/exim -C ~/exim.conf -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

5) Do this until you get the right routing output.


If it all works, you use ~/exim.conf as the system wide exim
configuration.

For example, you should see something like this

:~$ /usr/sbin/exim -C ~/exim.test.conf -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  deliver to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  router = lookup, transport = remote_smtp
  host mail.escortsmumbai.com [202.138.122.240] MX=10

except of course, in your case, this would be a silly route to use to
mail yourself (ah! what's that 'local_domain' thing again? N...not
another thread coming on :-).

All the problems you had were related to your understanding of
networks. Not GNU/Linux. Not exim. If this does not work please
(*please*) talk to your local network guru or ISP help desk to find
out what restrictions you live under. 

We're always pleased to offer assistance here on debian-user, but some
times we can't read minds.

Cheers!
Shyamal


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Re: 386 or 486 machine

[Tom]

i recall a fairly large isp, can't remember which one, running their
mailserver on a 486 DX.
cant remember what distro it was
could have even been a BSD but im not entirely sure
i dont see why you couldnt do it though

Tom


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human face - forever"
George Orwell

- Original Message -
From: "Rupert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: 386 or 486 machine


> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:24:01 +0400
> Andrei Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > is it possible to put Debian on a 386 or 486?
>
> I put Debian Woody on a 486sx/25 with 8mb ram. Actually I cheated: I
> installed by attaching the hard disk to a more powerful motherboard, and
> then attached it to the older box. I can apt-get things, but it tends to
> take about half an hour for new software to seep into the package
> database. If I ever want to upgrade, I can always reattach it to the
> more powerful system, or just get it started and wait a week ;)
>
> Rupert
>
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Re: bind9 and ipv6

[Tom]

i recall a fairly large isp, can't remember which one, running their
mailserver on a 486 DX.
cant remember what distro it was
could have even been a BSD but im not entirely sure
i dont see why you couldnt do it though

Tom


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human face - forever"
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- Original Message -
From: "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: bind9 and ipv6


> Kevin Coyner said:
> >
>
> > named[2387]: IPv6 structures in kernel and user space do not match
> > named[2387]: IPv6 support is disabled
> > named[2387]: no IPv6 interfaces found
> >
> > I have the IPv6 module compiled in my kernel, and I'm using 2.2.20.
> >
> > Are these startup references to IPv6 simply safe to ignore?
>
> if you don't need BIND to listen on any IPv6 interfaces, or if your
> not using IPv6 at all then yes it should be safe to ignore, it's
> just telling you it can't find all the things it needs to support
> IPv6 so it won't use it, no harm done.
>
>
> >
> > One more question:  I've set this up as a caching server.  However, can
I
> > add a master zone for the machines in my LAN, even though I don't have a
> > FQDN?  I read the following article ...
>
> you can do anything you want, nobody else in the world will know
> unless they go out of their way to query your name server. if you
> took say debian.org as your domain at home, that won't affect the
> 'real' debian.org since the "internet" has this domain "registered"
> to a few specific nameservers and other domain name servers know to
> query those registered servers to recieve data for that domain.
>
> for a while on my network I had a domain named 'aphro'. Just plain
> old aphro, no aphro.com no aphro.org just aphro. my gateway was
> gateway.aphro, my desktop was aphro.aphro .  about a year ago I decided
> to duplicate aphroland.org(my main domain) on my internal network, so
> I actually have 2 copies of this domain(if I add a new host I have
> to add it in 2 files and restart 2 copies of bind). So my internal
> domain names work fine internally but do not resolve externally.
>
> For a bit more security, if your planning on running BIND on your
> gateway/firewall machine I would reccomend you firewall it as well
> as have it only listen on your internal interface(s). Theres no real
> reason to provide the world access to your nameserver if your not
> serving authoratative data to anyone.  I am not sure how this is
> done in BIND v9, I have only used BIND v8. Also I reccomend of course
> running BIND as a non-root uid/gid and in chroot(). This may require
> some additional setup especially for the chroot().
>
> nate
>
>
>
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Exim configuration

[R Ransbottom]

I receive mail with fetchmail which works fine.
My system receives mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Local mail works fine.

I send mail with exim which works except in my ISP's domain.

When I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is
seen as local mail to an unknown user.

How should I make this work?

Preferably I'd like to be able to
directly send mail to a few hosts.on.localnet.


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Re: kernel patch howto

[Geoff Crompton]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:54:18PM -0700, np rpr wrote:
> 
> 
> > Secondly, how do I build this new kernel with the
> > patches for Freeswan?
> > I'm hunting thru the docs as I send the email.

  After copying your config file over, you can:
  % cd /usr/src/linux (or wherever you extract the kernel sources)
  % export PATCH_THE_KERNEL=yes (if using bash)
  % make-kpkg clean (don't have to do this for newly extracted source)
  % make-kpkg --config=menuconfig --revision=myfree.0.1 kernel_image

  That last command needs to run with fakeroot, or as root. The --config
switch runs the menuconfig after patching the source, so you can
configure your freeswan options.
  You will have a file /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18_myfree.0.1_i386.deb
which you can install using dpkg. (That is, if you are using the 2.4.18
sources, on the i386 platform).

  Let me know if it works. That is the way you are supposed to be able
to do it, but for some reason it isn't working for me at the moment. (I
have done this before successfully though).

  Cheers
  Geoff Crompton


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Re: Where to put .Xmodmap ?

[Vincent Lefevre]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 00:09:00 +0100, John Keniry wrote:
> I would like xmodmap .Xmodmap to run every time I startx. I did think
> that simply placing the .Xmodmap in my $HOME would be enough but the X
> scripts don't use it.

I run it from my .xinitrc:

[ -e $HOME/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap $HOME/.xmodmaprc

> I also tried creating a $HOME/.xsessions file but even if this is empty
> it causes X to fail to start (but leaves no traces in the log).

I also have a .xsession (symlink to .xinitrc). It contains:

#! /bin/sh
PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH
failsafe="xterm -ls -T Failsafe -geometry 80x24-0-0"
trap "exec $failsafe" EXIT SIGHUP SIGINT SIGPIPE SIGTERM SIGIO

[some commands]

if [ "$1" = "-vnc" ]; then
  shift
  # Try vncviewer, else xvncviewer.
  vnc="vncviewer -passwd $HOME/.vnc/passwd $*"
  trap "exec x$vnc" EXIT
  exec $vnc
fi

if [ -z "$WINDOWMANAGER" -o "$WINDOWMANAGER" = fvwm2 ]; then
  exec fvwm2 -cmd "FvwmM4 $HOME/etc/fvwm2rc.m4"
else
  exec $WINDOWMANAGER
fi

and is executable.

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Re: 386 or 486 machine

[Elizabeth Barham]

"Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was able to install woody v3 on a 486/16mb/500mb the other day.

I'm of the impression that 16MB is required for the Woody install. The
machine I installed (and... am... installing...)  has only 8MB.

Here is a general question though and hopefully the new kernel that is
being installed while I write this will remedy the problem.

This new machine is to be the firewall/router for the net connection
and the new kernel for it has iptables, nat, and the advanced routing
configurations enabled.

The first build, though, had CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_LARGE_TABLES set, and
after the TCP notice in the kernel boot messages (TCP, ICMP, etc), I
was informed that something like 256 buckets were made, 4k. Then it
began looking for an internet device and modprobe became stuck in a
loop because it continued to run out of memory.

So, this new build does not have CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_LARGE_TABLES set, and
it is still installing so it may be like an hour before I can attempt
to boot up into it to check again, but should this take care of the
problem?

Thank you,

Elizabeth


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Re: exim with both smarthost and direct send

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Patrik" == Patrik Modesto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Patrik> Hi, First: I'm using Debian testing, daily updated as my
Patrik> home PC, exim is setup to send outgoing mail directly to
Patrik> MX record.  Second: Now I need to setup exim to send all
Patrik> mail for some domain through my ISP's smtp server.

You add a domainlist router so you can catch that specific domain
before anything else? Section 28 of the Exim specification manual.

Something like this might work

isprouter:
  driver = domainlist
  transport = remote_smtp
  route_list = "exception.domain smarthost.isp.net bydns_a"

as the first rule in the router configuration section? This ofcourse
assumes that a remote_smtp transport is defined to use smtp, which my
default Debian installation did for me. 

Use "exim -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and "user -bt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  to see if your changes worked.

This advice is worth exactly what you paid for it. I'm an exim newbie
(started using it around 12 months around, and it is starting to make
sense to me. Which is a big improvement over sendmail.cf ;-)

Cheers!
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Re: msttcorefonts

[nate]

Ben Thompson said:
> I've installed the msttcorefonts package on my sarge system, but I can't
> get it to work. I've used this package before on other systems, and it
> works fine normally, but not on this system. The installer works fine, it
> downloads the packages and says ther are no problems, but I don't see any
> fonts in Mozilla or anywhere else. Please could someone advise how I can
> check out what's going on?

i've never used this package myself, but I can say how I use TTF fonts
in X..

install xfstt
drop my .ttf files in /usr/share/fonts/truetype
restart xfstt

configure X to use localhost:7101 as a fontpath..in afterstep theres
a file called autoexec which I have the line
xset +fp inet/localhost:7101 &

to add the font path..you can also put the font path directly in
the XF86Config-4 file

I think this is an xfree3 specific way to do it, but I've been using
it on half a dozen xfree4 systems for a year and a half now without
any issues and I have true type fonts available in everything.

at the same time I also get a font server which I can connect other
servers to, to use the fonts w/o having to keep them on every single
system, works good!

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Re: Logging a serial connection on both sides

[nate]

Mike Fedyk said:

> How can I read-only log both sides with a program available in debian
> (from debian-sid is ok, if required)?


I'm sure it's overkill but I use minicom for logging, fire it up in
screen, turn on the buffer logging and detach ..

never tried doing exactly what your trying though, if it were me
I would just use 2 serial cables going between the 2 systems

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Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?

[Oki DZ]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 09:12:12AM -0700, Wendell Cochran wrote:
> Back to `Debian'.  Both de- & -ian are common in English, & it's
> a tossup whether a reader chancing upon `Debian' for the first time will
> favor `De-' or `-ian'.  Hence ehb vs eeb.

...common... first time...
I think the ones who pronounce it with eeb are the first timers, because
they based it on commonality; i.e.: they don't know yet the origin of the
Debian name.

BTW, was it Debbie or Debby?
And... is there any who pronounced deeborah?

Oki


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Re: Real-time window manager switching

[Lance Simmons]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:22:21AM +0800, csj wrote:
> 
> So, is there a shell command sequence which I can type into an xterm to
> replace Ratpoison with another WM, while keeping my other X clients
> still running? I need the equivalent of a re-startx.

This isn't a direct answer to your question, but selectwm may do what
you want.  It depends on a mouse, but it's nice to be able to exit a wm
before knowing what wm you want to use next.  You can exit your current
wm and see a menu of other available wms.

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re:cannot ping other host

[Joey Quevedo]

hi,

i can now ping other host by enabling ip forwarding as mentioned by
colleague Alvin.
many thanks!

joey


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Re: treason uncloaked!

[Seneca]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:22:18AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> just found this message in my kernel logs. can anyone decipher it for
> me? what's treason wrt the TCP/IP stack?
> 
>   kernel: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 140.198.4.56:1511/80 shrinks
>   window 1904581317:1904582069. Repaired.

I remember seeing something about this on the list a few months ago...
Looking through the list archives, I find this link in one of the
messages:

http://www.geocrawler.com/mail/msg.php3?msg_id=6244141&list=200

and this message:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200204/msg05194.html

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Re: [OT] - Interesting politics and the GPL

[Jamin W. Collins]

n Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:29:13 -0700 "deFreese, Barry"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Have you folks seen this "debate"?
> 
> http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/02/10/23/1247236.shtml?tid=4

Yes, I did.  However, I fail to understand why federally funded projects
should be allowed to be privately licensed.  A federally funded project
is  by definition paid for by the tax payers (aka general public).
IMHO, something paid for by the general public should be licensed in a
manner that ensures it remains accessible to the public.

I understand the concept of the BSD style license(s) (I think), but fail
to see why it would be acceptable as a license for anything federally
funded.  With a BSD style license, anyone is free to take the result (at
any stage) and create a closed (possibly enhanced) proprietary
implementation.  Why should this be allowed for something paid for by
the public's tax dollars?  The public has already paid for a good
portion (if not all) of the item through federal funding.  Now it can be
incorporated into a proprietary application and the public winds up
paying for it twice?  

While some see the GPL's requirement, that any enhancements/changes be
released if the modified version is distributed, as restrictive.  It is
for this precise reason that it is well suited for licensing federally
funded projects.  It ensures that the results of such projects remain
public.  If someone wants to create a proprietary implementation, they
are free to do so.  They can re-implement the solution their way and
license as they see fit.  However, I don't feel they should be given a
handout/kick-start from a publicly funded project. 

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Spontaneous Rebooting while in X

[Mike Fedyk]

Hi,

This has happened to me a few times before, in 2.2 kernels and 2.4 kernels.
I'm not sure where I should start looking first, but I have a feeling that
the X server could be a factor.

The last few times it has happened it was while I was in Mozilla and
clicking quickly on the horozontal scroll bar to move to the right a screen
at at time, and then poof, reboot.

I doubt it is mozilla itself, since unprivleged userspace shouldn't be able
to reboot the system, though X does have access to the hardware...

This has happened less than 10 times in the past year with different
kernels, and even different X server versions (I'm running debian-testing).
What can I do that might be able to help me narrow this down a little? 

Thanks,

Mike


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Re: bind9 and ipv6

[Craig Dickson]

nate wrote:

> Also I reccomend of course
> running BIND as a non-root uid/gid and in chroot(). This may require
> some additional setup especially for the chroot().

Or better still, use another DNS that does this automatically. I use
maradns, which by default runs as a non-privileged user in a chroot
jail. As an internal-use-only server, it works fine, though there is a
minor glitch about resolving CNAME records recursively (i.e. if your DNS
config has a CNAME that resolves to a name outside your domain,
requiring a recursive lookup, it doesn't seem to work, or at least, it
didn't the last time I tried it, a few months ago).

Craig


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Re: treason uncloaked!

[nate]

martin f krafft said:
> just found this message in my kernel logs. can anyone decipher it for me?
> what's treason wrt the TCP/IP stack?
>
>  kernel: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 140.198.4.56:1511/80 shrinks window
>  1904581317:1904582069. Repaired.
>
http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:7IXYuJyoc1AC:archives.neohapsis.com/archives/sf/linux/2001-q3/0084.html+TCP:+Treason+uncloaked&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
"Its logging a tcp protocol violation by the other end. Window shrinking isnt
allowed in the spec..

a couple posts on the linux-kernel mailing list said this was the result
of a buggy TCP stack on the remote computer.

nate




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Re: Real-time window manager switching

[Craig Dickson]

nate wrote:

> what about just killing the pid of the WM and loading a new WM?
> 
> e.g.
> 
> kill `pidof ratpoison`  && afterstep &

... which will kill your entire X session if you happen to be running under
a .xsession script that ends with "exec ratpoison". Hence Sean's suggestion
to have an xterm as the session's controlling process.

Craig


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Re: treason uncloaked!

[ben]

On Wednesday 23 October 2002 03:22 pm, martin f krafft wrote:
> just found this message in my kernel logs. can anyone decipher it for
> me? what's treason wrt the TCP/IP stack?
>
>   kernel: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 140.198.4.56:1511/80 shrinks
>   window 1904581317:1904582069. Repaired.
>

according to various googled archives, the connection at the other end 
attempts to reset the window size after the link has been established. that 
attempt is apparently a tcp protocol violation. judging by the amount and 
content of search results, it's fairly common, and doesn't mean that any 
actual harm is being done.

ben


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Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?

[jerry k]

Wendell Cochran wrote:

> Back to `Debian'.  Both de- & -ian are common in English, & it's
> a tossup whether a reader chancing upon `Debian' for the first time will
> favor `De-' or `-ian'.  Hence ehb vs eeb.
> 

It's a toss-up for americans.  No-one from the UK would ever say 'Deebian'




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msttcorefonts

[Ben Thompson]

I've installed the msttcorefonts package on my sarge system, but I can't
get it to work. I've used this package before on other systems, and it
works fine normally, but not on this system. The installer works fine,
it downloads the packages and says ther are no problems, but I don't see
any fonts in Mozilla or anywhere else. Please could someone advise how I
can check out what's going on?




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Logging a serial connection on both sides

[Mike Fedyk]

Hi,

I have a null serial cable between two debian linux systems.  Niether side
has a serial login setup on the serial port.  I want to be able to catch an
oops on either computer with the other still-working system, and log it to a
file.

Now, I've tried using ttylog, and found a nice bug (see the BTS), and ended
up using cat instead.  Now I get a problem when I want to log both sides (I
was only logging one side before). 

Let's say I have comp1 and comp2.  They're each logging to a file on their
hard drive.  comp1 outputs something through the serial cable, comp2
receives it.  Now the file on comp1 gets some output that went to comp2, and
then proceeds to continuously add newlines to the end.

How can I read-only log both sides with a program available in debian
(from debian-sid is ok, if required)?

Thanks,

Mike


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Where to put .Xmodmap ?

[John Keniry]

I would like xmodmap .Xmodmap to run every time I startx. I did think
that simply placing the .Xmodmap in my $HOME would be enough but the X
scripts don't use it.

I also tried creating a $HOME/.xsessions file but even if this is empty
it causes X to fail to start (but leaves no traces in the log).

The other alternative is to put it in the .kde/autostart directory but,
well there must be a WM neutral place this should go. 

Any ideas?

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RE: Imap issue

[Joyce, Matthew]

Just for the archives sake, the problem I was having was causes because, the
router's acl was blocking port 143.

Matt


-Original Message-
From: nate [mailto:debian-user@;aphroland.org] 
Sent: Friday, 18 October 2002 2:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Imap issue


Joyce, Matthew said:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a box running woody v3, kernel 2.4.18, with uw-imap

try telnetting to it. from your nmap output I get the impression that it is
firewalled. Perhaps at the client end..or maybe the server end.. if it
connects then drops the connect, its most likely a tcp_wrappers thing. if it
says connection refused most likely it is a firewall thing. if it says
connection timed out it is almost gauranteed a firewall thing. if it says no
route to host, it could be a router acl thing.

also test other ports on the system & ping it as well see what the results
are.

nate




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More info from apt-cache show?

[Steve Juranich]

Is there any way to get more info from a package other than the 
description that is shown by apt-cache show?

What I'd like to see is that something like apt-cache changelog foo 
that shows:

foo v 1.2.3-4

This fixes the nasty little bug that some people were experiencing with 
the 1.2.3-3 package.

Enjoy.

Even if the comment is nothing more than: "This package incorporates 
the latest changes to the software, see http://www.foohomepage.net for 
more."

I wouldn't be surprised if this exists already, but I sure can't find 
it.  Is there a general "wishlist" for debian that I can post this on?

Thanks.

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RE: 386 or 486 machine

[Joyce, Matthew]

I was able to install woody v3 on a 486/16mb/500mb the other day.

I don't really have any need for it, I just did it to see what would happen.

Matt


-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Barham [mailto:soggytrousers@;yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 24 October 2002 3:48 AM
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Subject: Re: 386 or 486 machine


Andrei Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> is it possible to put Debian on a 386 or 486?

Yes.

> where to found information on this?

I suppose the standard Debian installation pages:



One word of caution, however, is if the machine you are installing onto has
limited memory, then you might want to try the potato boot disks and go from
there. (For my ISA-only 486 machine, the potato idepci boot disks did the
trick as where the others stalled.)

There is an installation named "Dlite" (Debian Lite) that I only recently
found out about and I have not used it personally. But, from what I
understand, it is for systems with limited disk space and limited memory.



Elizabeth


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RE: Unsubscribe

[Joyce, Matthew]

Stay where you are, noone leaves!


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Re: treason uncloaked!

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, martin f krafft wrote:
> just found this message in my kernel logs. can anyone decipher it for
> me? what's treason wrt the TCP/IP stack?

Your peer was screewing up, and the TCP/IP stack detected the bogons and
killed them.  For a more in depth explanation, search the linux-kernel
archives, there was a thread about it not too long ago.

Consider it a debug message, and ignore it.

-- 
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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh


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galeon + search on google == leak ??

[Jc]

when i search stuff on google sometimes galeon starts using tremendous
amounts of memory ( 80 Mo Res) and Xfree does the same.
i don't have this problem on every search, where can this leak come from
? font rendering ?? 
any ideas on how to track this bug ?


the software :
debian sid 
ii  xserver-xfree8 4.2.1-3the XFree86 X server
ii  galeon 1.2.6-2Mozilla based web browser with GNOME
look an
ii  mozilla-browse 1.1-1  Mozilla Web Browser - core and browser


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Re: kernel patch howto

[np rpr]

--- Mike Egglestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I interested in setting up ipsec/l2tp on my woody
> box.
> I'm unsure how to patch my kernel. Here's what I've
> done so far:
> 
> Installed woody with kernel 2.2
> apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18
> Rebooted back into my new stock 2.4 kernel
> apt-get install kernel-patch-freeswan
> apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18
> apt-get install kernel-package
> 
> This is where I'm not sure what to do next:
> I understand that I have to use make-kpkg somehow
> to create my new custom_kernel.deb in which then I
> can
> install by runnning
> # dpkg -i custom_kernel.deb
> 
> However, how do I create my new custom kernel with
> my old .config
> from my stock 2.4.18 kernel? I don't want to lose
> any kernel config settings 
> from the kernel-image-2.4.18.deb that I installed
> originally.
> 

do 'cp /boot/config-2- to /linux/.config '
and make oldconfig and amke xconfig and do the setting
required for your patch.

> Secondly, how do I build this new kernel with the
> patches for Freeswan?
> I'm hunting thru the docs as I send the email.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: how to check md5sums of official debian discs

[Geoff Crompton]

 How about:
$ cd /cdrom
$ md5sum -c md5sum.txt
 Assuming you aren't burning a cdrw at the same time. And if that locks
 up your computer, something is wrong. Mind you, it will take awhile. If
 you want to be sure that it is still running, use the -v switch, so
 that it outputs the file names as it checks them.

 Geoff Crompton

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 02:12:01AM -0400, Levi Waldron wrote:
> 
> Naively, I tried 
> 
> md5sum /cdrom/*
> 
> and it locked my deb3.0 computer hard.  (maybe because I had a disc burning 
> in /cdrw simultaneously?) I notice each CD comes with an md5sum.txt with the 
> sums for all files on the disk, how can I use it  to make sure each disk is 
> perfect?
> 
> The debian.org download page covers checking the downloaded iso images, but 
> not the burned discs.
> 
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Re: 386 or 486 machine

[Rupert]

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:24:01 +0400
Andrei Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> is it possible to put Debian on a 386 or 486?

I put Debian Woody on a 486sx/25 with 8mb ram. Actually I cheated: I
installed by attaching the hard disk to a more powerful motherboard, and
then attached it to the older box. I can apt-get things, but it tends to
take about half an hour for new software to seep into the package
database. If I ever want to upgrade, I can always reattach it to the
more powerful system, or just get it started and wait a week ;)

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Re: [OT] - Interesting politics and the GPL

[Craig Dickson]

Barry deFreese wrote:

> Have you folks seen this "debate"?
> 
> http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/02/10/23/1247236.shtml?tid=4

While I'm generally quite pro-GPL, I accept (and I believe RMS does as
well) that sometimes another license such as BSD or MIT/X is
appropriate. For example, the Ogg Vorbis audio codec originally was
licensed under GPL, then relicensed under LGPL, and now uses the X
license. The Vorbis developers discussed these changes with RMS, and he
agreed with their reasoning that X was the right license for Vorbis. The
goal there was to make it easy for Vorbis to be used in a wide variety
of contexts, both open-source and proprietary, so that there would be no
artificial obstacles to its replacing fully-proprietary, closed-source
codecs such as MP3 and WMA.

So don't assume that RMS thinks that the GPL is the only acceptable
license for all situations -- he's on record that that's not the case.
(Though possibly he considers the use of non-GPL licenses as only a
temporary tactical maneuver -- you'd have to ask him.)

As to the present topic, the NewsForge/Slashdot headlines about a
congressman wanting to "outlaw the GPL" are misleading and inflammatory
-- dishonest journalism at its worst. As far as I can tell, this has
nothing to do with outlawing the GPL. The issue is deciding on a license
to recommend or mandate for use with software that is developed under
government funding. That's a legitimate issue. Software developed by the
government, or under government contract, ideally should be considered
to be in the public domain; the government, representing the people,
paid for its development, so one could reasonably argue that it should
be freely reusable by any American citizen for any purpose, including
incorporating it into proprietary products, developing proprietary
extensions, etc. On the other hand, one could argue that the GPL is the
best way of ensuring that this publicly-funded software is used to the
maximal benefit of the people as a whole. Which side of the debate one
takes is likely to be predictable from one's general view of the free
software movement, but neither position seems inherently right or wrong
to me.

My view is that the GPL is a bit too strong for publicly-funded code,
but BSD/X is a bit too weak, since, as I understand them, they do not
discourage Microsoft's "embrace and extend" strategy. Something closer
to the LGPL might do the job nicely. You should be able to use
publicly-funded code in closed-source products, but alterations to the
publicly-funded code should be required to be released under the same
license as the original code. This would allow everyone to use the code
for any purpose, but prevent "embrace and extend" takeovers.

Craig


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Re: bind9 and ipv6

[nate]

Kevin Coyner said:
>

> named[2387]: IPv6 structures in kernel and user space do not match
> named[2387]: IPv6 support is disabled
> named[2387]: no IPv6 interfaces found
>
> I have the IPv6 module compiled in my kernel, and I'm using 2.2.20.
>
> Are these startup references to IPv6 simply safe to ignore?

if you don't need BIND to listen on any IPv6 interfaces, or if your
not using IPv6 at all then yes it should be safe to ignore, it's
just telling you it can't find all the things it needs to support
IPv6 so it won't use it, no harm done.


>
> One more question:  I've set this up as a caching server.  However, can I
> add a master zone for the machines in my LAN, even though I don't have a
> FQDN?  I read the following article ...

you can do anything you want, nobody else in the world will know
unless they go out of their way to query your name server. if you
took say debian.org as your domain at home, that won't affect the
'real' debian.org since the "internet" has this domain "registered"
to a few specific nameservers and other domain name servers know to
query those registered servers to recieve data for that domain.

for a while on my network I had a domain named 'aphro'. Just plain
old aphro, no aphro.com no aphro.org just aphro. my gateway was
gateway.aphro, my desktop was aphro.aphro .  about a year ago I decided
to duplicate aphroland.org(my main domain) on my internal network, so
I actually have 2 copies of this domain(if I add a new host I have
to add it in 2 files and restart 2 copies of bind). So my internal
domain names work fine internally but do not resolve externally.

For a bit more security, if your planning on running BIND on your
gateway/firewall machine I would reccomend you firewall it as well
as have it only listen on your internal interface(s). Theres no real
reason to provide the world access to your nameserver if your not
serving authoratative data to anyone.  I am not sure how this is
done in BIND v9, I have only used BIND v8. Also I reccomend of course
running BIND as a non-root uid/gid and in chroot(). This may require
some additional setup especially for the chroot().

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treason uncloaked!

[martin f krafft]

just found this message in my kernel logs. can anyone decipher it for
me? what's treason wrt the TCP/IP stack?

  kernel: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 140.198.4.56:1511/80 shrinks
  window 1904581317:1904582069. Repaired.

thanks!

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Re: Real-time window manager switching

[nate]

csj said:

> So, is there a shell command sequence which I can type into an xterm to
> replace Ratpoison with another WM, while keeping my other X clients still
> running? I need the equivalent of a re-startx.

what about just killing the pid of the WM and loading a new WM?

e.g.

kill `pidof ratpoison`  && afterstep &

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Re: setting up static IP

[nate]

Richard Kimber said:
> How do I go about telling my router on my home network that I want to use
> a fixed IP address on my Debian box?  It needs to be fixed so that the
> other PC on the system can retrieve mail from it.  At the moment the
> router seems to allocate 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3 to both machines at
> varying times, according to whether one is switched off/on.


if you only get those 2 ips, ignore the router. configure the 2 machines
to use static ip addresses. the dhcp server will still run but the
computers will ignore it.

otherwise, you need to look at the documentation for your router or
contact your service provider for assistance. many DHCP server have the
ability to assign IPs based upon MAC addresses. but the configuration
depends on what server software is used on the router. some implimentations
do not provide any capability for this.

best bet though is to just go static, forget about dhcp.

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Re: Knoppix: Was: The *ONLY* real problem with Debian...

[Kent West]

Levi Waldron wrote:

So, preinstall PCs for people, use Knoppix, or create Live CDs with BootCD
(such as http://asgardsrealm.net/linux/livec1vn)



How safe do you think Knoppix is?  I would make a pretty bad impression of 
Linux to my friends if I gave them the demo CD to show them its virtues and 
it damaged their current OS or wrote over any data.  I think I would only 
feel comfortable using it to show off linux on other people's computers if it 
were really, really safe in that respect.




Unless the machine is low on RAM (32MB for non-GUI mode I believe; 96 or 
 so for KDE mode), forcing Knoppix to use the hard drive for swap 
space, the hard drives are mounted read-only in my experience. Once in, 
you can remount them rw.

So basically, Knoppix is very safe.

Kent


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Re: Still having trouble with ripping/burning CDs

[Steve Juranich]

> In most cases it should.  Have you tried disconnecting the DVD drive and
> connecting the CD-RW drive as the only device on the second controller?

Well, you're the second person to suggest such a thing (I ran this by a 
friend after starting this thread).  I'll give that a try (if not 
tonight, soon).

Just because I don't know the answer: why should this help?

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Re: setting up static IP

[Vincent Lefevre]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 21:49:43 +0100, Richard Kimber wrote:
> How do I go about telling my router on my home network that I want to use
> a fixed IP address on my Debian box?

Telnet your router and configure it, but concerning that, this is not
related to Debian.

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Re: Real-time window manager switching

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On Wednesday 23 October 2002 14:22, csj wrote:
>
> So, is there a shell command sequence which I can type into an xterm to
> replace Ratpoison with another WM, while keeping my other X clients
> still running? I need the equivalent of a re-startx.

while I hack on blackbox what I usually do is start X so that a term window is 
the controlling window and not the window manager.  When I change something 
or fix a bug I just exit the wm and start it back up.  If I know I need gdb I 
usually run the wm from a second console so that way I can switch to it, 
debug, restart and switch back to X.


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Re: setting up static IP

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.23.2249 +0200]:
> How do I go about telling my router on my home network that I want to use
> a fixed IP address on my Debian box?  It needs to be fixed so that the
> other PC on the system can retrieve mail from it.  At the moment the
> router seems to allocate 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3 to both machines at
> varying times, according to whether one is switched off/on.

man interfaces
$EDITOR /etc/network/interfaces

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Re: muttprint problem: base.def missing

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.23.2308 +0200]:
> ($mail_charset is the charset that muttprint finds in the mail, if it
> finds one, get_charset returns the charset in a form suitable for
> LaTeX.)

aha, mine is ISO-8859-15, so therefore...

I'll experiment with this the next time I have to print something...

thanks for your time!

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switching between keymaps in X

[debian mailing lists]

Hello
I need to configure my X 4.1.0-16 in woody on x86 PC to switch between
different keyboard maps. I need standard us/uk keymap and cz_qwerty
keymap. So I change /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 as follows:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc102"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
Option  "XkbVariant""cz_qwerty"
EndSection


But now I don't know how to switch that 2 keymaps (without restarting
X and replacing XkbLayout). I looked for the solution in archive but
didn't found anything. Old versions of X (3.3.6) use Scroll Lock or
Break.

Please, can you tell me how to solve this


thank you
marek cermak


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Re: libpng3-dev: where can I get it

[Seneca]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:28:28PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> Stephen Gran wrote:
> > steve:~$ apt-cache search libpng3
> > libpng-dev - PNG library - development
> > libpng3 - PNG library - runtime
> > libpng3-dev - PNG library - development
> 
> My box updates to testing and it gets only this:
> 
>   # apt-cache search libpng3
>   libpng-dev - PNG library - development
>   libpng3 - PNG library - runtime
> 
> How do you get libpng3-dev 

Use libpng-dev, that is what libpng3-dev used to be called.

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Real-time window manager switching

[csj]

I treat window managers like themes or skins. Depending on the mood and
need I run WindowMaker, Fluxbox, IceWM, Ion and (because of a recent
thread) Ratpoison.

With mouse-centric WM's like WidowMaker, I can change WM's simply by
pointing to the corresponding "Window Manager" menu entry. With
keyboard-centric WM's like Ion and Ratpoison, I need to figure out the
precise commands to map to the key bindings.

I managed to find out Ion's "restart_other" option, but with Ratpoison I
appear to be trapped. I need to log-out of my XSession before I can
change WM.

So, is there a shell command sequence which I can type into an xterm to
replace Ratpoison with another WM, while keeping my other X clients
still running? I need the equivalent of a re-startx.
 


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setting up static IP

[Richard Kimber]

How do I go about telling my router on my home network that I want to use
a fixed IP address on my Debian box?  It needs to be fixed so that the
other PC on the system can retrieve mail from it.  At the moment the
router seems to allocate 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3 to both machines at
varying times, according to whether one is switched off/on.

Thanks,
- Richard.


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building xf4.2 deb on Woody: out of disk space!

[Oleg]

Hi

I did "apt-get -t sid source xserver-xfree86", and tried building it with 
dpkg-buildpackage overnight. I had 1GB free on "/" partition where the action 
was taking place, but as it turned out, I ran out of disk space there.

My questions are:

1) Is this normal? Should it really take over 1GB to build xserver-xfree86 
4.2 deb? The sources themselves are only 169MB.

2) I also have 1GB free on /home partition. Can I use it during the build?
After the build failed, I tried moving build-tree/xc/xc-xserver-xfree86-dbg 
to /home/temporary and sym-linking, but dpkg-buildpackage removes build-tree 
when it starts, so sym-linking was irrelevant.

3) Are there xserver-xfree86 4.2 debs for stable? I did not want to install 
Sid binaries, because libc6 upgrade would have to be done.

4) If I really want a very stable system, and at the same time I want xf4.2, 
how averse should I be to upgrading libc6 to the version in Sid? If I do, in 
fact, install libc6, how long until it gets replaced by a Woody version of 
itself?

Oleg
P.S. Cc: to me please


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