XFree86 turns off the screen when using usb mouse
Hi, I have a small problem that I'd like to solve. X automatically blanks the screen after a while. It unblanks it if you use the keyboard or the mouse. However it only works with serial or ps2 mice. I'm using a USB mouse and sometimes i'll be using my computer to browse the web or play music and suddenly the screen goes blank. It's not so serious as all I have to do is press a button in the keyboard, but I'd still like to find a better solution. Thanks in advance, Bijan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 13:10, Ric Otte wrote: > Hi, > > I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and I called them > up to ask if it would work with Linux. The woman at tech support > confidently assured me, over and over, that it would not work with > Linux. I spoke to her a long time, trying to figure out why it wouldn't > work. She said that since they use pppoe and not dhcp, I couldn't get > an ip address with a dhcp client. But Debian has a pppoe package, and > there are also things like rp-pppoe. Although she could not explain to > me why it wouldn't work, she was absolutely positive it wouldn't. > > The modem/router they give out as part of the deal is a Homeportal > 1000sw. I checked that on the web, and it looks to me as if it uses > pppoe to connect to SBC, and then assigns either static or dynamic ip > addresses to computers plugged into it. It also says that it is Linux > compatible. > > So I find it very difficult to believe that Linux will not work with SBC > DSL service, unless they are intentionally doing something to prevent > Linux users from using their service. So I was wondering if anyone is > using SBC DSL, or knows if it will work. Any info would be appreciated; > thanks. > > Ric I've been using SBC/Yahoo in San Francisco for over a year now. They gave me an Efficient Networks 5360 adsl modem, which I set up using ppoeconfig with zero problems. Recently I installed a wireless router between the modem and my box, getting my ip via dhcp from the router, and the router also had no problem doing ppoe. From all this, I would assume sbc is not doing anything non-standard. -- First Impressions are Bunk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Ric" == Ric Otte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ric> Hi, I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and > Ric> I called them up to ask if it would work with Linux. The > Ric> woman at tech support confidently assured me, over and over, > Ric> that it would not work with Linux. I spoke to her a long > Ric> time, trying to figure out why it wouldn't work. She said > Ric> that since they use pppoe and not dhcp, I couldn't get an ip > Ric> address with a dhcp client. But Debian has a pppoe package, > Ric> and there are also things like rp-pppoe. Although she could > Ric> not explain to me why it wouldn't work, she was absolutely > Ric> positive it wouldn't. > > I use SBC/Yahoo DSL. It works. Just don't ask tech support. I don't > use PPoE though, I have a wireless AP/hub in between my computers and > the SBC provided DSL modem that does the PPoE. Many of those wireless hubs run embedded versions of Linux :) Or so I have heard. Just another reason to assume that tech support isn't being entirely honest. Bijan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Wheelmouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Haldor, Saturday, June 21, 2003, 11:36:30 PM, you wrote: HR> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 05:48, Piero wrote: >> I'm not able to make my wheelmouse work. It's a basic Logitech wheelmouse. >> HR> his is what I did, Anyone have any wisdom for *serial* wheelmice/mouses/meese? I have a Chic Scroll Serial Mouse 12832. Paul Harrison -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr1 (Windows Me) Comment: PGP clear signed for verification iQCVAwUBPvU1INqITBXGTrZbAQGpeQP7B9SRj/ci9BEc8CGtu4oS+71qJ+hfdRX0 VC8mMz49N+U7/4jqqjJvWOQP+UK63YBQbRO5J6KmsKVOBABMI5LPfztUfop4lsFg 1rqjtn56rQoiHgumla3eEKmmvyPIEw/3GYJzn9MxR4kPj+dvcUasr9OkqrNbUw3L vPPb0YiY2rU= =H3SA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
"Ric" == Ric Otte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ric> Hi, I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and Ric> I called them up to ask if it would work with Linux. The Ric> woman at tech support confidently assured me, over and over, Ric> that it would not work with Linux. I spoke to her a long Ric> time, trying to figure out why it wouldn't work. She said Ric> that since they use pppoe and not dhcp, I couldn't get an ip Ric> address with a dhcp client. But Debian has a pppoe package, Ric> and there are also things like rp-pppoe. Although she could Ric> not explain to me why it wouldn't work, she was absolutely Ric> positive it wouldn't. I use SBC/Yahoo DSL. It works. Just don't ask tech support. I don't use PPoE though, I have a wireless AP/hub in between my computers and the SBC provided DSL modem that does the PPoE. Cheers! Shyamal PS: Sorry for the reply to your account, but I figured you'd be interested in a positive data point. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Large X Fonts after switching to font server
Hi Everyone, I switched from using font files to using a font server and now the standard font size is larger, especially on Mozilla. For example, Mozilla's 'Preference' page takes up practically 90% of the screen vertically as before it was more of a normal window. Plus, the link names in the "Personal Toolbar" just above the browser's content area are pretty large and not as many fit onto it as before. Any idea of how this happened or is there some setting to make the standard font size smaller? FWIW, I installed *all* Debian bit-mapped Xfont packages onto the font server. Thank you, Elizabeth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
on Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 01:07:21AM +1200, cr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Saturday 21 June 2003 21:55, Alex Malinovich wrote: > Well, I have no conscience whatever about stealing Micro$oft software. > The way I look at it, if I'm forced to use their software for any > particular application it's because M$ have managed to coerce almost > everybody into using it, squashed any competition, and got obscenely > rich by doing so. However, other shareware I do have a conscience > about, I've even registered some. ;) Fact is, you're *still* benefiting MSFT by using their software: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/piracy.html > > And, just so I can join in the foray of the auto-detect flame-fest here, > > if a user doesn't know his hardware well enough to be able to pick it > > from a list he shouldn't be installing an OS in the first place. > > Errr, *wrong*.Much of my gear is second-hand, and of course the > first thing the original owners invariably do is lose the manuals. :( > My current motherboard is the first one I've ever had a manual for, > ditto my S3 VGA card, and I've *never* owned any monitor of a brand > that's been listed in the 'X' config options. It's a simple matter, in most cases, to dig up the information you need. First step is to take a look at the physical cards and note significant markings. Second: look at dmesg output, /proc/pci and other informational sources, most abstracted into my system-info script (see prior post in this thread). Google the identifiers you've found. You'll turn up the specifics, in many cases including online manuals. > Both with RedHat and Debian, I've found that 'X' configuration was > the biggest single problem. Both RedHat *and* Deb failed to come up > with any monitor setting that would work, failed to start X with > 'generic' monitor, and I had to experiment extensively with XF86Config > before it would work. In fact, if I run RedHat I use my S3 card > because I can't make it work with my on-board SiS/AGP video driver; > with Debian it's the opposite. SiS has a bad track record. As with too many vendors, they're slow to present specs and configuration information, though this situation continues to improve. There's information on SiS X driver support here: http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsis630.shtml > Yet, both RedHat and Mandrake's graphical installers and Debian's penguin > logo display fine with *whatever* card I'm running - what is it the > installers know that they won't tell X config ?:( Framebuffer != X11. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Comic tragedy: MobiliX sued by Asterix publisher over 'iX' trademark http://tuxmobil.org/mobilix_asterix.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian
on Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 04:55:47AM -0500, Alex Malinovich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > My first ever Linux install was done with Potato a year and a half ago. > The only experience I had had with anything remotely linux related > before then was using cygwin for a few months. So essentially I knew a > few basic bash commands. I knew nothing about the kernel, the > filesystem, or anything. I had no real idea what modules were, and the > whole "sources" thing baffled me. And, worst of all, I didn't find out > about this list until AFTER I had a working install. :) Cool, and 'grats. > And, just so I can join in the foray of the auto-detect flame-fest here, > if a user doesn't know his hardware well enough to be able to pick it > from a list he shouldn't be installing an OS in the first place. > Besides, if a user is converting from Windows, just how much trouble is > it to grab a pen and paper and go into Device Manager? (Took me about 10 > minutes a year and a half ago. Barring some odd time-distorting anomaly, > it should still take roughly that long for John Q. Public to do so.) > Auto-detection would be nice, but if I have to choose between manually > selecting hardware or having an installer hard-lock my computer like the > Mandrake installer did a few months ago, I'll go the manual selection > route anyday. :) My suggestion is this: - Run Knoppix. - Run the system-info script I've written, and save its output. This will give modules and other configuration settings. http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LinuxSystemInfoScript Note that "configuring modules" is largely a matter of adding a list of modules to /etc/modules, when using a stock kernel. - Copy Knoppix's X configuration file someplace, as a starting point. With this, the modestly skilled newbie should have few issues with a Debian install. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Support the EFF, they support you: http://www.eff.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: wireless access point
matt zagrabelny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > what wireless access points (wap) are linux users using? I happen to have a D-Link DWL-900AP 802.11b access point. It works fine, except that I forgot the administrative password and now can't reconfigure it at all. > obviously cost, administration ability, reliability are all factors. > > * i would like it to cost less than $120 (US), new or used My impression from looking at ads around here are that cheap access points run about US$60; if you're paying more, it's because you're getting an Ethernet hub, a NAT box, etc. > * i would like to be able to administer it via a the web. (ie web based > configuration via http or snmp) or have some decent linux based > configuration Look for ap-config in unstable, ap-atmel in stable, for SNMP-based access. > * i would like it to be a reliable 802.11b wap and if lucky 802.11g I'd stay away from "802.11g" products (and notice that none of them actually *say* "802.11"). I was at a conference a week ago with Belkin-brand "54g" APs, and my laptop refused to talk to them with its built-in wireless card; other people had similar experiences, though, of note, those with Apple-brand laptops seemed to consistently win. In talking to people I was told that hardware manufacturers, in their rush to be first-to-market, all implemented different things based on an unreleased draft standard of the 802.11g spec, and backwards compatibility frequently suffers. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to use rpm in debian
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 14:49, Bob Proulx wrote: > Mathias Peters wrote: > > i need to install the db2 v8.1 personal edition on debian. the > > tar-file i got on ibm.com only produced some rpms that are installed > > via install-skript, so i can't use alien. does anybody know how to > > install the rpm package database on debian or how to install db2 > > somehow else? > > First I am not familiar at all with db2 from ibm.com. So I can only > talk in general terms. Is this free software such that others could > help with your install problems? Or is it commercial only? If free > then there will be lots of help. If commercial then is there any > ability to ask the vendor to support Debian directly? DB2 was originally developed for IBM mainframes as their big, mondo powerful database system. With it, they introduced a control language that could access and manipulate data via a near-english syntax called Structured Query Language, or SQL. This format was later copied by numerous other database developers and standardised to be the SQL we have today. It is most definitely not free software - it is one of IBM's cash cows, both for software licenses and support contracts. It is available to consulting partners (third parties who consult on systems or hardware for clients) at reduced or demonstration oriented free-of-charge licenses so that they can be familiar with its functionality - IBM finds that doing that sort of thing helps their sales of the software products, and hopefully the hardware too. Most software vendors of major commercial systems offer similar arrangements. I have this myself, and the installation scripts use 'rpm' to attempt the installation, which on Debian just won't work, period. It *could* be done by editing the installation scripts to replace 'rpm' with 'alien' for any actual installation calls. While the LSB is a great solution to handling this sort of system installation, it stumbles badly on Debian when confronted with installation scripts that explicitly call 'rpm' for the installation. For LSB to properly work in the way that people *envisage* such universal ability to install the software, either a "distribution neutral" installation command is needed (where on Debian, if it saw an .rpm, it would call 'alien' to do the conversion,) or 'rpm' *someday* should be extended on Debian to support the Debian installation database *as best as possible* given the .rpm limitations. The third option is to clue IBM into the advantages of releasing a .deb edition of their packages, given the position it holds amongst those that *know* Linux. -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: debian
Paul Johnson writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:08:22AM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > My mother needs to access her email. I installled Debian on the > > computer. She has no problems using Debian. However, I had to do the > > install because she has no clue about settings in XFree86. With knoppix > > she just has to press the power button and she gets logged into KDE. > > Yes, but see, this still holds true that the difficulty of the > installer doesn't matter. Debian trades off one bitch of > an installer for the ability to run on very little maintenance (which, if > you script it, you could have her box send you an email every time it > dialed up, or serve the dialup for her yourself, and do it yourself > for her every once in a while) for extremely long periods of time, and > extremely customizable to your mom's needs and what hardware you've > got to do it with. But it doesn't have to be that way. There is ample evidence that easier installs can be created. Why shouldn't debian be a flexible, easily customized and updated system AND be reasonably easy to install? Philosophically, it's silly to require you to have massive hair on your chest just to start using the great stuff available. Also, just because I have the ability to understand every corner of my system and fix it if it's not right at the low level, doesn't mean I really want to have to figure out every detail of my system. I only have so much time in the day, and having things just work is valuable. Being able to customize where I want and need to at the same time is equally valuable, so don't tell me to just use Windows for convenience. I want both. Debian should be a platform striving to deliver all these things. I usually don't jump into these types of discussions, but I really dislike the attitude that you should be an expert just to get started. Jerry Quinn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
* Ric Otte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030621 16:39]: > Hi, > > I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and I called them > up to ask if it would work with Linux. The woman at tech support > confidently assured me, over and over, that it would not work with > Linux. I spoke to her a long time, trying to figure out why it wouldn't > work. She said that since they use pppoe and not dhcp, I couldn't get > an ip address with a dhcp client. But Debian has a pppoe package, and > there are also things like rp-pppoe. Although she could not explain to > me why it wouldn't work, she was absolutely positive it wouldn't. I'm confident that SBC DSL will work just fine. What the support woman is "confident" about is that SBC doesn't support Linux, therefore, in their eyes, "it won't work" and they won't help you try and get it working. Check the website http://www.dslreports.com/ for help. Regards Hall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
My DSL connection is a SBC Yahoo DSL line... It was originally ordered as an SBC Enhanced DSL package... I have 5 static addresses so a lil different than the regular DSL package offering... In my case since they are statically assigned address block there was no pppoe or dhcp configuration involved... As someone else mentioned ask the local LUG and get input... Having worked in the ISP venue myself I know a lot of times they say it's not supported but it really just means they won't be able to offer Tech Support assistance... With my enhanced DSL package they want'd to send a SBCIS technician out to do the install and wouldn't give me the self-provision kit... I finally after they missed 2-3 appts to install it told them send me the self-provision kit as I am a network administrator by trade and "wouldn't let their trained monkeys touch any of my computers"... I had my self-provision kit and DSL line active in 2-3 days... I had reverse DNS control delegated within a week... Regards, Jeremy On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 01:10:06PM -0700, Ric Otte wrote: > Hi, > > I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and I called them > up to ask if it would work with Linux. The woman at tech support > confidently assured me, over and over, that it would not work with > Linux. I spoke to her a long time, trying to figure out why it wouldn't > work. She said that since they use pppoe and not dhcp, I couldn't get > an ip address with a dhcp client. But Debian has a pppoe package, and > there are also things like rp-pppoe. Although she could not explain to > me why it wouldn't work, she was absolutely positive it wouldn't. > > The modem/router they give out as part of the deal is a Homeportal > 1000sw. I checked that on the web, and it looks to me as if it uses > pppoe to connect to SBC, and then assigns either static or dynamic ip > addresses to computers plugged into it. It also says that it is Linux > compatible. > > So I find it very difficult to believe that Linux will not work with SBC > DSL service, unless they are intentionally doing something to prevent > Linux users from using their service. So I was wondering if anyone is > using SBC DSL, or knows if it will work. Any info would be appreciated; > thanks. > > Ric > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new gnome2 in sarge : startup error
just updated to gnome2 in sarge with an: apt-get update apt-get distupgrade worked like a charm, till a logout / login gdm tried to login my id and something failed and send me back to gdm. nothing in the log files. same result from startx from the cmd line. deleted ~/.xinitrc and startx from the command line worked deleted ~/.gnome2* and login from gdm worked one item left... on login a gnome error msg box comes up. - there was an error starting the gnome settings daemon any thoughts on resolving this? did the upgrade go smooth for anyone? thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: logging apt-get/dpkg activity
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 06:28:48PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: > > You could eliminate all of the non-portable stuff in the above by > > changing the single 'echo -e' to 'printf'. This is functionally > > equivalent. > > That isn't the only bashism in that script. Care to enlighten us? I didn't see anything outside POSIX sh other than the use of echo escape sequences. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Window manager troubles in Sid
I just installed Debian on a friend's machine yesterday. I used Knoppix to detect the hardware (and write down what it produced) then I used an old Woody CD to get a base system in place. I changed the sources.list to point at unstable and then did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade. Everything good so far (I was only upgrading the base install). Then I went into dselect and picked all the programs and stuff that he wanted, including GNOME for the desktop. Once all was done the xserver wouldn't start (I accidently told it the incorrect video card), but that was easily fixed. When I finally go GNOME to come up, the panels were in the middle of the screen and they had regular window decorations (making me think that the problem is actually with the window manager). Can someone suggest a way to fix this? The currently installed window manager is metacity, but I can't figure out how to tell if that is where the problem really is. -Roberto ___ Yahoo! Sorteos - http://loteria.yahoo.es Juega a la Lotería Primitiva sin salir de casa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Still having trouble with XVideo
After diffing the conifg files for my stock 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel and my home rolled 2.4.20 kernel, I figured out that the major differnce was that my custom kernel did not have frambuffer support. So, I tweaked the settings, recompiled and reinstalled. On reboot, I chose the 2.4.18 kernel and tested it out on a media file (.WMV to be exact) and it work with output to XV. I rebooted again and chose my newly comiled kernel and worked there too (this was all on Thursday evening). This morning, I got the blue screen again when I tried it out again. So, I rebooted into the 2.4.18 kernel and got the blue screen there too (it had always worked with the stock 2.4.18). I have changed nothing in the way of conifguration, I have checked every file in /etc that has changed in the last two days, and have diff'd /etc with my backup from last weekend and there aren't any changes in anything relating to X. In each case I played the movie in both Xine and MPlayer. In each case the results were the same for both (when one worked so did the other, and when one gave the blue screen so did the other). Can someone please help? I am at my wits end. -Roberto Sanchez ___ Yahoo! Sorteos - http://loteria.yahoo.es Juega a la Lotería Primitiva sin salir de casa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wheelmouse
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 05:48, Piero wrote: > I'm not able to make my wheelmouse work. It's a basic Logitech wheelmouse. > his is what I did, I installed gpm, then /usr/sbin/gpmconfig Current Configuration: -m/dev/psaux -t imps2 -Rraw Device: /dev/psaux Type: imps2 Repeat_Type: raw /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Wheelmouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device""/dev/gpmdata" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false" Option "ZaxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection That got me working with scroll and the scroll wheel as an extra button. > The corresponding lines in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file are: > > Section "InputDevice" > > # Identifier and driver > > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol""PS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" > Option "ZAxisMapping" " 4 5" >Option "Emulate3Buttons" > EndSection > > Anything tu suggest? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot access my computer (debian woody)
On Sat, June 21 at 5:54 PM EDT Jean-marc Belley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't remember exactly what i did, that the problem. > I think i run the ./bin/bash command and maybe > cause some library to link somewhere else. Since, i reinstall woody > on my machine to fix the problem. It's for the next > time; How i can login when you have this kind of error to fix it. > The problem is i have only Woody on this machine > and no other os. Another method is to boot up with the boot floppy or install CD and use the shell there to mount your HD and make changes to the files. I believe when you get to the first screen of the "install" you just go to the second virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+F2) and you will have a shell prompt. Shawn Lamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot acces my machine (woody)
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:50:57AM -0400, Jean-marc Belley wrote: > I have a problem to access my computer. > I cannot access to root or any user. > When i tried to login as root or user i have > the following error: > > Cannot Execute /bin/bash: Exec format error > > So i cannot access my computer. I tried > with the rescue disk and same error. If you have /bin/sash installed, try that rather than /bin/bash. If you cannot boot with a rescue disk, you could try to booting from a floppy with tomsrtbt. You can get tomsrtbt from http://www.toms.net/rb/. Once you have booted from tomsrtbt, you can mount your partitions and try to fix the problem. To fix the problem you may need to run programs using chroot; the tomsrtbt FAQ has some sections on this. You should probably also take a look at: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/ch-package.en.html#s-survival What sequence of events led up to your problem? -- Jerome pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logging apt-get/dpkg activity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: > You could eliminate all of the non-portable stuff in the above by > changing the single 'echo -e' to 'printf'. This is functionally > equivalent. That isn't the only bashism in that script. Regards, Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL 34990 USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim4
Hello, I installed exim4 on my box. There are 3 users: root user1 user2 For user1 all is ok: messages being sent and received correctly. For user2 messages are sent ok, but for the receiving of the messages I get: 1 message for fu.bar (user2) at pop.free.fr (945 bytes) reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1 of 1 (945 bytes) fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from pop.free.fr fetchmail: Query status=10 (SMTP) However, all is ok for user1 and user2 with exim. (not exim4) Can someone help me so that exim4 works correctly. TIA -- Gerard PS Pigeon, you are a poet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 01:10:06PM -0700, Ric Otte wrote: > Hi, > > I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and I called them > up to ask if it would work with Linux. The woman at tech support > confidently assured me, over and over, that it would not work with > Linux. I spoke to her a long time, trying to figure out why it wouldn't > work. She said that since they use pppoe and not dhcp, I couldn't get > an ip address with a dhcp client. But Debian has a pppoe package, and > there are also things like rp-pppoe. Although she could not explain to > me why it wouldn't work, she was absolutely positive it wouldn't. > > The modem/router they give out as part of the deal is a Homeportal > 1000sw. I checked that on the web, and it looks to me as if it uses > pppoe to connect to SBC, and then assigns either static or dynamic ip > addresses to computers plugged into it. It also says that it is Linux > compatible. > > So I find it very difficult to believe that Linux will not work with SBC > DSL service, unless they are intentionally doing something to prevent > Linux users from using their service. So I was wondering if anyone is > using SBC DSL, or knows if it will work. Any info would be appreciated; > thanks. > > Ric it will work until ~2 mos. ago I was using SBC DSL (originally the service was through "Ameritech" here, they were purchased by SBC) it sounds like the modem/router they give you will do the pppoe & your PC can just get it's network config w/ DHCP you'll need to configure the router with your username, password (you may want to check if the router has a web interface for configuration - not Windows-only software) if they give you a "modem" only (which they did in my case) your PC can do the pppoe by itself w/ rp-pppoe as you said ... -- Mike Strean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
Ric Otte wrote: Hi, I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and I called them up to ask if it would work with Linux. The woman at tech support confidently assured me, over and over, that it would not work with Linux. I spoke to her a long time, trying to figure out why it wouldn't work. She said that since they use pppoe and not dhcp, I couldn't get an ip address with a dhcp client. But Debian has a pppoe package, and there are also things like rp-pppoe. Although she could not explain to me why it wouldn't work, she was absolutely positive it wouldn't. The modem/router they give out as part of the deal is a Homeportal 1000sw. I checked that on the web, and it looks to me as if it uses pppoe to connect to SBC, and then assigns either static or dynamic ip addresses to computers plugged into it. It also says that it is Linux compatible. So I find it very difficult to believe that Linux will not work with SBC DSL service, unless they are intentionally doing something to prevent Linux users from using their service. So I was wondering if anyone is using SBC DSL, or knows if it will work. Any info would be appreciated; thanks. Ric You might want to pose this question to a local Linux User's Group in your area. I know the one here (San Antonio, TX) has lots of users using DSL from SBC. Local Linux users can give you a much more accurate answer. PPoE shouldn't be a problem with Linux. Maybe they provide some "setup" programs on a CD or Floppy that have to be installed for their "setup", and they only work on Winders or a Mac... dunno. Do they offer a "self-install" option? You also might be interested in the DSL howto at: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/index.html There is a lot of good info on setup there. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please help with Sarge and my network card
Hallo Bob,* * Bob Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [21-06-03 18:01]: > Dear Friends, > I am trying to get Sarge installed on my brand new Thinkpad T40. > > This little gem has an "Intel(r) Pro/1000 MT Mobile Connection" Gigabit > Ethernet card on board. > > I am not able to get this working and am therefore stuck since Sarge netinst > CD works but has no network and Sarge full ISO CD (made with Jigdo > yesterday) does not seem to be working ocrrectly at all (does not find > libc6-udeb or similar despite the CD checking correctly). > > Any help very much appreciated. > > Exact machine type for anyone who would care is a 237392G with a Pentium M > 1.6GHz and ATI Radeon 9000 mobility, wireless etc. i had similar problems with the sarge netinst iso. and now, i am sorry to say this, my thinkpad runs with gentoo. and it runs very well. the only thing that doesn't work yet ist the acpi support, please tell me if you got it working. and of course the intel pro 2100 wlan chip doesn't work... but this is not my fault, (thx intel) cu -- Florian Krohs [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing linux inside linux?
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 11:23, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: > I've heard of several methods of installing Debian within an already > running Debian install on the same partition. > > - Bochs: an emulator, does this recreate a system worthy of a debian > install? or will emulator-specific problems arise? Can't say I've tried it, so I'll leave that one for someone else .. > - chroot: what's a chroot? chroot changes a process' view of the filesystem .. specifically, where the root of the filesystem is (hence ch(ange)root). Here's an example transcript: /root # cd /mnt/redhat /mnt/redhat # ls bin boot dev etc halt home initrd lib lost+found misc mnt opt proc root sbin tmp usr var /mnt/redhat # chroot . /bin/sh / # ls bin boot dev etc halt home initrd lib lost+found misc mnt opt proc root sbin tmp usr var There I've started /bin/sh but chroot'd so that /mnt/redhat appears as / (but only to /bin/sh and it's children - the rest of the system is untouched). See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot for more details > - UML: patch for kernel? I don't want to recompile my kernel While User-Mode Linux can benefit from a kernel patch (the skas patch), it's just a normal process - it doesn't require any modifications to your running kernel. Simply apt-get install user-mode-linux (and optionally user-mode-linux-docs), then grab a pre-made filesystem for it from either http://people.debian.org/~mdz/uml/ or http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/dl-fs-sf.html See the howto on user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net for more details. > Are there any other ways of doing this I'm not aware of? Not that I'm aware of - bochs and similar will run linux within an emulated PC, user-mode-linux will let you run linux within it's own kernel, and chroot will let you run a process within it's own corner of the filesystem. Which is better simply depends on how isolated from the host machine you want the "linux within linux" to be. > I have 1 hard drive with a windows partition, and one each of /, /boot, > and scratch partitions, running Woody on the linux side. chroot uses an existing directory, uml uses files containing filesystems - neither will require new partitions. > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Joel Konkle-Parker > Webmaster [Ballsome.com] > > Phone [662-518-1636] > E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hope this helps / makes sense Shaun -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: logging apt-get/dpkg activity
Bob Hilliard wrote: > I suspect the easy availability of script(1) discouraged people > from expending any effort on it. I finally got tired of editing out > all the bogus newlines (^M) from script's output, so I wrote the > following wrapper for apt-get, which I have installed as > /usr/local/bin/upgrade: > > #! /bin/bash > # A script to wrap `apt-get -dist-upgrade' to keep a log of upgrades > > echo -e "\n\n `date`\n">>upgrade_log > apt-get -qu dist-upgrade 2>&1 |tee -a upgrade_log > exit 0 > > This contains several bashisms, so it shouldn't be run with > #!/bin/sh. You still have to stand by to answer apt's and debconf's > questions. You could eliminate all of the non-portable stuff in the above by changing the single 'echo -e' to 'printf'. This is functionally equivalent. #! /bin/sh # A script to wrap `apt-get -dist-upgrade' to keep a log of upgrades printf "\n\n `date`\n\n">>upgrade_log apt-get -qu dist-upgrade 2>&1 |tee -a upgrade_log exit 0 It annoys me that bash's echo and therefore /bin/sh requires -e which in the case of /bin/sh is a violation of the standards. I have given up and just use printf whenever I need escape sequences. Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
Hi, I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and I called them up to ask if it would work with Linux. The woman at tech support confidently assured me, over and over, that it would not work with Linux. I spoke to her a long time, trying to figure out why it wouldn't work. She said that since they use pppoe and not dhcp, I couldn't get an ip address with a dhcp client. But Debian has a pppoe package, and there are also things like rp-pppoe. Although she could not explain to me why it wouldn't work, she was absolutely positive it wouldn't. The modem/router they give out as part of the deal is a Homeportal 1000sw. I checked that on the web, and it looks to me as if it uses pppoe to connect to SBC, and then assigns either static or dynamic ip addresses to computers plugged into it. It also says that it is Linux compatible. So I find it very difficult to believe that Linux will not work with SBC DSL service, unless they are intentionally doing something to prevent Linux users from using their service. So I was wondering if anyone is using SBC DSL, or knows if it will work. Any info would be appreciated; thanks. Ric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop tape backups
Thomas Krennwallner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> What do you use to back up your laptop? > > I use a network backup solution: amanda. See http://www.amanda.org/ and > http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/amanda-server.html for further > details. Amanda is great if you have lots and lots of machines and a single HUGE tape drive. However, I have a single laptop and no tape drive. Still looking for a Linux-compatible 30-80 GB tape drive that is most likely going to be USB. Has anyone used the Seagate Travan TapeStor 40 (STT6401U2-R) or the OnStream USB 30 or ADR2.60usb? I haven't heard anything Linux about the former, but the OnStream USB 30 seems as if it should be supported, but am not sure about the ADR2.60usb. If you have any info about these drives, I would appreciate hearing about it. -- Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: logging apt-get/dpkg activity
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Probably both. Has anyone been interested enough to implement it > themselves and send a patch? I suspect the easy availability of script(1) discouraged people from expending any effort on it. I finally got tired of editing out all the bogus newlines (^M) from script's output, so I wrote the following wrapper for apt-get, which I have installed as /usr/local/bin/upgrade: #! /bin/bash # A script to wrap `apt-get -dist-upgrade' to keep a log of upgrades echo -e "\n\n `date`\n">>upgrade_log apt-get -qu dist-upgrade 2>&1 |tee -a upgrade_log exit 0 This contains several bashisms, so it shouldn't be run with #!/bin/sh. You still have to stand by to answer apt's and debconf's questions. HTH Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL 34990 USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iso images etc
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 06:30:25PM +0100, john gennard wrote: > I have become interested in the creation of a personalised distro. > 'Gentoo' was on the CD which accompanied my monthly Linux Magazine, > but this only contained tarballs for 3 stages. After asking around, > I was referred to 'Linuxfromscratch' - its literature is very > detailed and after reading it two or three times I'm beginning > 'to see the light' (tongue in cheek!!). > > Sometimes I have access to an ADSL line, so I have downloaded an > .iso image of Gentoo. Now, I realised that I didn't understand > exactly what an .iso image was, so I've googled and now have that > a little clearer. But what I don't understand is how to boot the > image I've downloaded and I find no clear explanation. > > I've found a Windows program called 'undisker' which allows me to > see what is in the image. Briefly it contains two folders, one > named 'gentoo' which holds bz2 files for the three stages, and > the other named 'isolinux' which contains files which have to do > with booting (some of the .msg files are readable as text), plus > a file named 'livecd.cloop' (35+Mb) - google tells me this is > 'compressed loopback filesystem support'. > > I burned the .iso image to a CD, but to make it bootable, I was > asked to add the contents of a floppy - presumably containing > drivers to activate a CD-ROM drive. I couldn't do anything about > that, and if I change my BIOS to boot from a CD-ROM it doesn't. > I thought the .iso downloaded was bootable. > > Would someone kindly explain (in simple terms):- > > 1. How to I get the CD to boot? When it asks for the contents of a floppy, it's not looking for CD-ROM drivers but for the bootloader code, kernel and stuff off a *bootable* floppy. I've mucked about with the make-bootable-CD facility of Nero in Windoze, and found that it will make bootable CDs using boot floppies made from the images on Debian installation CDs. But you shouldn't need to do this. It sounds as if whatever program/method you're using to burn the CD is trying to be too clever, with this do-this-and-that to make it bootable; I think what you've ended up with is a CD containing the .iso image as one big file, rather than a CD which replicates the .iso image. Burning .iso images is dead easy: cdrecord -v dev=x,y,z filename.iso where x,y,z are the numbers that cdrecord -scanbus gives for your CD burner, in the first column. > 2. Is there some special reason to use the cloop - would > some other form of compression not surfice? Yes, there is a reason. It's got useful files in it... It's not "compressed loopback filesystem support", but a "compressed loopback filesystem". A kernel which includes compressed loopback filesystem support can mount this file as a filesystem, and it can then be accessed just like a CD. > 3. Is there a linux package which allows one to read > and extract files from an .iso image. Loopback mounting again, but this time not the compressed variety. It's not a package, it's a kernel option which AFAIK is enabled by default in stock kernels. You only need a special package on Windoze, because Windoze is crap :-) (as root) mount /path/to/filename.iso /mnt -o loop -t iso9660 -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Wheelmouse
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 07:48:56PM +0200, Piero wrote: > I'm not able to make my wheelmouse work. It's a basic Logitech wheelmouse. > > The corresponding lines in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file are: > > Section "InputDevice" > > # Identifier and driver > >Identifier "Mouse1" >Driver "mouse" >Option "Protocol""PS/2" >Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" >Option "ZAxisMapping" " 4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" > EndSection > > Anything tu suggest? Thanks Try: Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" You might also want to look at imwheel. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 18:56, Vineet Kumar wrote: > Anyone who thinks it's hard to install debian should try installing > redhat on pa-risc or sparc! (It's not difficult -- it's impossible! > (AFAIK)) Feh! Installing Debian onto my HP D330 was a doddle. Easier than the i386 install, actually. A little bit of (well documented) setup to get the lifimage served by tftp, boot the D330 off the LAN, and you're off. After that, it's just another Debian box. Regards Peter. -- Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The IWETHEY Project : http://z.iwethey.org/forums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new mobo, and no video
I grabbed a new mobo yesterday, and PCDDR266. I bought one of their mobo's a few months ago, to use for redhat, so I assumed this one would work as well. according to knoppix, everything is found, but The onboard video is "found" as [S3 Pro Savage (ProSavageDDR K4M266)], for whatever reason(s), I cannot get a gui started. Is there a RedHat style video config for debian? I've tried xf86config, and one other one. Any tips, and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: iso images etc
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:50:09 +0200, john gennard wrote: > Sometimes I have access to an ADSL line, so I have downloaded an .iso > image of Gentoo. So that's why you came here?! This is debian-user... > Now, I realised that I didn't understand exactly what an .iso image was, > so I've googled and now have that a little clearer. But what I don't > understand is how to boot the image I've downloaded and I find no clear > explanation. An .iso image contains a complete data session of a CD-ROM, i.e. all the data, the directory structure and so on. Essentially it is a bytewise copy of the data on the disc. (This is an oversimplification, but it should help you to get an idea.) > I burned the .iso image to a CD, but to make it bootable, I was asked to > add the contents of a floppy - presumably containing drivers to activate > a CD-ROM drive. You shouldn't need any floppies. The .iso image is bootable, provided that your BIOS supports booting from CD-ROMs. > I couldn't do anything about that, and if I change my BIOS to boot from > a CD-ROM it doesn't. I thought the .iso downloaded was bootable. It should be. How did you burn your CD-R? Try to burn just your .iso image, don't use any facilities your burning program has for making bootable CDs. > Would someone kindly explain (in simple terms):- > > 1. How to I get the CD to boot? That's a question for the Gentoo guys. Ask them :-) Debian's boot CDs work fine from my personal experience. > 2. Is there some special reason to use the cloop - would > some other form of compression not surfice? Did you by any chance mess with the ISO? I repeat: Burn it as it is; don't extract the files and burn them. That way you would lose the ability to boot the image. > 3. Is there a linux package which allows one to read > and extract files from an .iso image. No need. Everything is in place if your kernel supports CD-ROMs: mkdir /mnt/temp mount -o loop /path/to/my.iso /mnt/temp Then you have the ISO's files under the directory /mnt/temp and can copy them. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdrom creation
In the past month, I've grabbed updates to sarge, and have them "archived" onto cdrom. Now that I've re-installed woody, and upgraded back to sarge, how do I get apt-get to see these updated files, so I can save a bit of time sing a dialup internet connection. How do I create a cdrom, that apt-get will know about? Is there a HOWTO somewhere Thanks -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 0002.mimetmp Description: PGP signature pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Wheelmouse
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:20:12 +0200, Piero wrote: > I'm not able to make my wheelmouse work. It's a basic Logitech wheelmouse. > > The corresponding lines in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file are: > > Section "InputDevice" > > # Identifier and driver > > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol""PS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" > Option "ZAxisMapping" " 4 5" >Option "Emulate3Buttons" > EndSection > > Anything tu suggest? Thanks Reading the docs. ;-) Mine runs fine with Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2". Also, Emulate3Buttons is probably not needed. (Though it shouldn't break anything either.) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tab-Completion in gnuplot
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 04:53:56PM -0600, Gary Hennigan wrote: > > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Quoting /usr/share/doc/gnuplot/README.Debian: > > > > > > libreadline > > > --- > [...] > > Of course I don't fully understand all the "GPL implications". I > > believe what the Debian gnuplot maintainer means is that it's ok to > > use GNU readline library with gnuplot, gnuplot just can't be > > distributed that way and so (s)he doesn't distribute it that way with > > Debian. > > Correct. You can't take GPL code, link it against non-GPL code (more > specifically code that cannot be distributed under the terms of the GPL; > this means that BSD-minus-advertising-clause and LGPL are not a problem, > for example, but gnuplot's licence is since it imposes additional > restrictions over and above those in the GPL), and distribute the > resulting binary. What other .debs are in the same situation and would therefore benefit from a local tweak and rebuild? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wheelmouse
Piero wrote: > I'm not able to make my wheelmouse work. It's a basic Logitech wheelmouse. >Option "Protocol""PS/2" > Anything tu suggest? Thanks Change that line above to be: Option "Protocol""ImPS/2" Wheelmice use InteliMouse protocol. If you are using 'gpm' then also make that change in /etc/gpm.conf too. And the same problem in reverse if you swap in a non-wheelmouse later. I don't know if this next will help or hinder. But recently I have heard of a package which might help in this process. I have not played with this at all but it looks interesting. Probably more than you need at the moment. apt-cache show mdetect For now I would just change the XF86Config file line and be happy. Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to use rpm in debian
Mathias Peters wrote: > first of all, i'm not subscribed, so please cc me to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks. Let me suggest including a Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] header in your email so that people responding will automatically be directed to do what you wish? See my message here for an example. Of course I would also specifically request it too just to be sure. There are a lot of poor mailers in use out there. > i need to install the db2 v8.1 personal edition on debian. the > tar-file i got on ibm.com only produced some rpms that are installed > via install-skript, so i can't use alien. does anybody know how to > install the rpm package database on debian or how to install db2 > somehow else? First I am not familiar at all with db2 from ibm.com. So I can only talk in general terms. Is this free software such that others could help with your install problems? Or is it commercial only? If free then there will be lots of help. If commercial then is there any ability to ask the vendor to support Debian directly? Regardless please ask the vendor to support LSB (Linux Standards Base) compliant packages which support all LSB conforming systems. Standards are a good thing. I always hate it when people put an installer around an installer. That is, install scripts around rpm. It overly complicates things. Creating LSB compliant packages is much better. I have always found it possible to install applications no matter how convoluted their installation might be. I work in the CAD/EDA industry and trust me some vendors have very tangled installation processes. But that means that if the vendor made it hard to install that it will be hard to install. You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. But hard does not mean you can't install it. Please do make the attempt to do so. I think you will find a little effort will be rewarded with a successful installation and you will also be better off by knowing more about the software you are installing. You might have to take the package apart piece by piece and install it by knowing what it is doing inside. This is not terribly difficult. You say it has a script installer. Which means the processes of the script can be debugged. If you look at the installation script can you deduce what it is trying to do and then do those same things yourself? The complexity can vary greatly here. Some scripts are very easy and some are very hard and everything in between exists too. For example, let me guess that the script is deducing the type of system you have and installing with rpm the matching .rpm files. If that is all it is doing then you can alien convert the .rpm files and install them yourself. And there are other possibilities. Sometimes vendor applications which use installer scripts then munge the installed files with the script. They set up /full/install/paths and other such things. By looking at the script can you tell if that is happening here? If so then you can run or replicate that section of the script yourself to finish the installation. Also, I really hate suggesting this, but some people have had _okay_ results by creating an rpm database just for the purpose of installing vendor applications in situations such as yours. I would NEVER do this for core system components such as commands or libraries. But for optional modules which bolt onto the side of your system and have no overlap with anything else on your system then perhaps this is a compromise. But I certainly would not do it blindly as it can really mess up your system. Doing an rpm install in a chroot area is reasonably safe. Then you can see what is installed and transfer that to your real system. If you looked at your .rpm files with 'rpm -pqlv' and 'rpm -pq --scripts' you could deduce what is inside the rpm and make a determination as to whether it overlaps with your system functionality or not. Knowing that one could tell what options might work better than others. These are just general hints. Dig into the problem and please report back to the mailing list your results. With more information I might be able to give more specific suggestions. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail delivery failure
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 at 4:07pm, Patrick Wiseman wrote: :I've been getting a bunch of these messages on a fairly new testing :installation. According to the Exim FAQ, this error happens when users :don't have home directories, but I do. My exim.conf includes localhost in :the local_domains definition. I'm receiving email (using fetchmail). :And, of course, all these error messages are arriving! : [...] : :I'm pretty sure this is the offending machine because it's the only one in :my little network which fetches mail. Duh!?! Except, that is, for the one from which I'd migrated and deleted the user; but I hadn't deleted a cronjob run on that user's behalf, which was generating email, which, of course, couldn't be delivered because the user's directory no longer existed. And I hadn't eliminated that user from fetchmail.conf on the original machine, so other senders were getting the error message back too. My apologies for wasting your time with such a stupid oversight! It just goes to show that moving a user from one machine to another is more complicated than it might at first appear. Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 *Google First, Ask Later* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 13:41, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:08:22AM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > My mother needs to access her email. I installled Debian on the > > computer. She has no problems using Debian. However, I had to do the > > install because she has no clue about settings in XFree86. With knoppix > > she just has to press the power button and she gets logged into KDE. > > Yes, but see, this still holds true that the difficulty of the > installer doesn't matter. Debian trades off one bitch of > an installer for the ability to run on very little maintenance (which, if > you script it, you could have her box send you an email every time it > dialed up, or serve the dialup for her yourself, and do it yourself > for her every once in a while) for extremely long periods of time, and > extremely customizable to your mom's needs and what hardware you've > got to do it with. Difficulty still matters. I don't see how X is easier to setup than in Knoppix. > Knoppix, on the other hand, trades off a lot of usability and pretty > much the entire need for a packaging system but lets you cram the same > OS on almost any semi-recent (like at least a Pentium) hardware with > the reasonable expectation that most, if not everything, gets > autodetected correctly. True. > > I got X to work. It wasn't so tough (I can even run the gimp). You just > > have to remember to mount your mouse :) > > Umm, you can only mount block devices...character devices like mice > can't be mounted... In the hurd you can add almost anything to the filesystem I call it mounting. You can even "mount" ftp sites (even as a normal user). > > the command is something like > > settrans /dev/mouse IMPS/2 /dev/psaux > > and you tell X to use /dev/mouse and osmouse. > > OK, that's telling X about your mouse, not mounting it. In the hurd you "mount" everything. I call it mounting because you are adding it to the filesystem. Actually what happens is that you run a server (read "set a translator") with settrans that provides the service. Then any program can probe that file or directory and the server you set will respond. Kind of like running gpm and having X read /dev/gpmdata Bijan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows NT/2000/XP related problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 20 June 2003 06:45 pm, Abdul Latip wrote: > Hi > > Since I am not so familiar with Windows NT/2000/XP, > I am wonder which are the good "Windows Clue for Linux > users" webpages on web. Any URL? > > Basically, some of the problems are that I am usually asked > are: > > 1. The most simple way to return control to LILO after >reconfiguring Windows. I believe you boot into your Debian install with disk # one or boot disk and edit lilo to include the new OS partiton, then rerun lilo. > 2. How to read the linux files systems (ext2,ext3,reiserfs) >in Windows. > 3. How to resize NTFS with less pain. I use ntfsreize, http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/help.html This works ver well on XP boxes with hd formatted as one ntfs partition. > 4. Where to find a "md5sum" program for windows (not command >line). > 5. What/where is /dev/null? It used to be "nul" in WIN9X > > Thank you for any clue. > > > -- > Abdul Latip -- Angkasa Internet Junior Staff -- ANGIN.com > http://people.WebIndonesia.com/dullatip/ - -- Greg Madden Debian GNU/Linux -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9Kcik7rtxKWZzGsRAvvHAJ0QPnpcEAv5LyvJL96TQEoVii/s7wCeL/lZ U3h6R6rXuQmC9kq/aVWJ+40= =zLRK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wheelmouse
* Piero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030621 19:48]: >Option "Protocol""PS/2" Try ImPS/2. Sincerely Alexander pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: No sound - onboard VIA VT8233 AC97
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:20:11 +0200, Josh Metzler wrote: > I would appreciate any advice anyone can give me as to how to get sound > working on my new box. What about loading a sound driver? The module is called snd-via82xx or similar. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wheelmouse
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 13:48, Piero wrote: > I'm not able to make my wheelmouse work. It's a basic Logitech wheelmouse. > > The corresponding lines in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file are: > > Section "InputDevice" > > # Identifier and driver > > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol""PS/2" should be IMPS/2 then it will work. > Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" > Option "ZAxisMapping" " 4 5" This is correct. >Option "Emulate3Buttons" > EndSection > > Anything tu suggest? Thanks I wish this could be automatically detected :) Bijan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to view changelogs?
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:50:04 +0200, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > Unfortunately, that's pretty much the only way to go. Personally I > can't believe there's still no way to view package changelogs on the > web. It's not exactly inconvenient, but for big packages, I check http://changelogs.credativ.org/debian/pool/ prior to downloading them and finding out that the only change was fixing a typo in the changelog ;-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wheelmouse
* Piero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [21-06-2003 20:21]: > I'm not able to make my wheelmouse work. It's a basic Logitech wheelmouse. As in the wheel doesn't work, but I can move the pointer and click? Or does the mouse not work at all? > The corresponding lines in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file are: >Option "Protocol""PS/2" I have "ImPS/2" here. >Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" It's been a long time since I created my XF86Config, but mine reads "/dev/input/mice". This might have something to do with the fact that I have a USB-mouse. >Option "ZAxisMapping" " 4 5" Why is there a space just in front of the 4? Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling winex
I downloaded the latest cvs from sourceforge (which is getting almost unreasonably congested, but thats another thread) on my sid box. Thus far, I have had zero luck getting it to compile. I have tried it with gcc-2.95 and gcc-3.3, and it seems to be having problems with flex. I also backrevved flex to 2.5.4a from woody. I get a few minutes into compiling (after doing a configure --enable-opengl and make depend), then it fails with pages of errors similar to the following. Can someone give me some idea of where the problem lies? Is it bum source code or some issue with some package that is keeping this from compiling properly? Thanks == gcc -c -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include -g -O2 -Wall -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fno-keep-static-consts -D__int8=char -D__int16=short -D__int32=int "-D__int64=long long" -D__WINE__ -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -o ppy.tab.o ppy.tab.c gcc -c -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include -g -O2 -Wall -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fno-keep-static-consts -D__int8=char -D__int16=short -D__int32=int "-D__int64=long long" -D__WINE__ -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -o lex.ppl.o lex.ppl.c ./ppl.l:82:1: warning: "/*" within comment ./ppl.l:91:2: #endif without #if ./ppl.l: In function `pplex': ./ppl.l:305: error: `seen_junk' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:305: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ./ppl.l:305: error: for each function it appears in.) ./ppl.l:305: error: `pp_pp' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:310: error: `pp_ignore' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:310: warning: implicit declaration of function `yy_pp_state' ./ppl.l:310: error: `pp_inc' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:310: error: `tINCLUDE' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:310: error: `pp_eol' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:311: error: called object is not a function ./ppl.l:311: error: `pp_def' undeclared (first use in this function) [Snip several screens of ppl.l errors] ./ppl.l: In function `put_buffer': ./ppl.l:1415: error: `pass_data' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l: In function `do_include': ./ppl.l:1439: error: `includelogicentry_t' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1439: error: `iep' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1441: error: `includelogiclist' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1462: warning: implicit declaration of function `open_include' ./ppl.l:1462: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast ./ppl.l:1467: error: `seen_junk' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1468: error: `include_state' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1469: error: `include_ppp' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1470: error: `pass_data' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1473: error: `debuglevel' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1473: error: `DEBUGLEVEL_PPMSG' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1474: error: `input_name' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1474: error: `line_number' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l:1474: error: `include_ifdepth' undeclared (first use in this function) ./ppl.l: In function `push_ignore_state': ./ppl.l:1488: error: `pp_ignore' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/include/stdlib.h: At top level: lex.ppl.c:15102: warning: `yyunput' defined but not used make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/wine/tools/wrc' make[2]: *** [lex.ppl.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/wine/tools' make[1]: *** [wrc] Error 2 make: *** [tools] Error 2 -- --Brad Bradley M. Alexander| gTLD SysAdmin, Security Engineer| storm [at] tux.org Key fingerprints: DSA 0x54434E65: 37F6 BCA6 621D 920C E02E E3C8 73B2 C019 5443 4E65 RSA 0xC3BCBA91: 3F 0E 26 C1 90 14 AD 0A C8 9C F0 93 75 A0 01 34 How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I only coded it. -- Attributed to Linus Torvalds, somewhere in a posting -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wheelmouse
On Saturday 21 June 2003 19:48, Piero wrote: > I'm not able to make my wheelmouse work. It's a basic Logitech wheelmouse. > > The corresponding lines in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file are: > > Section "InputDevice" > > # Identifier and driver > > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol""PS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" > Option "ZAxisMapping" " 4 5" >Option "Emulate3Buttons" > EndSection > > Anything tu suggest? Thanks Try changing the protocol to ImPS/2 -- Got Backup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iso images etc
john gennard wrote: > I have become interested in the creation of a personalised distro. > 'Gentoo' was on the CD which accompanied my monthly Linux Magazine, Oops! I think you meant to send this message to gentoo-users and not to debian-users. We are all friends here but I think you would have a better chance at answers to your specific questions over there. :-) Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Linux Version
anubhav dubey wrote: > I wish to purchase your Debian Linux Version but i am not sure whether the > same will automatically detect my onboard sound and graphics card. I am new > to linux so i am not much aware of it. As you may now be aware the Debian distribution is a free distribution. There is no purchase charge. It may be downloaded freely from many sites on the Internet. It is also possible to purchase CDs from CD vendors who will charge a fee for media and other fees. > I will purchase your debian linux version only when i am assured that the > same will automatically detect my graphic and sound drivers. If you have the capability to create your own CDs from downloaded ISO images then I recommend that you try KNOPPIX which is based upon Debian and is also free. KNOPPIX has a high level of hardware autodetection for x86 hardware. If you are new to GNU/Linux then KNOPPIX is probably your best and easiest way to get going. And since it is based upon Debian you gain the advantages that Debian provides. http://www.knoppix.org/ Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iso images etc
* john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [21-06-2003 19:46]: > I burned the .iso image to a CD, but to make it bootable, I was > asked to add the contents of a floppy - presumably containing > drivers to activate a CD-ROM drive. > 1. How to I get the CD to boot? Use the right tool to burn the iso. Don't "copy" the file to the cdrom, but create a cdrom from it. In Nero this is called burn image. In Linux you can use cdrecord. > 3. Is there a linux package which allows one to read > and extract files from an .iso image. Yes, if your kernel supports it you can mount that file using "-o loop". Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nfs through dsl router
James Strandboge wrote: > Matt Price wrote: > > /etc/exports: > > /home/me *(rw) > > (obviously not a good plan for permanent use...) > Ouch. You may already be hacked. Agreed. That scares me just thinking about it. Script kiddies are always probing my network for NFS vulnerabilities. If you do, start an office pool for how long your machines lasts before it is found and cracked. :-) > I'd recommend scp. If you must have nfs, it is possible to use nfs with > ssh. See: > > http://www.samag.com/documents/s=4072/sam0203d/sam0203d.htm Good article. Thanks for sharing that. I would also recommend reading the VPN HOWTO. The 'secvpn' package may be of use to you in this area. Creating a full VPN between your computers may be what you are looking for. Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: howto use defaults/preferences to keep to testing ???
Also sprach Colin Watson (Sat 21 Jun 02003 at 05:41:51PM +0100): > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:17:58AM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > > Also sprach Colin Watson (Sat 21 Jun 02003 at 12:58:47PM +0100): > > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 07:20:16AM -0400, Shawn Lamson wrote: > > > > Can I ask why you do $dselect update instead of $apt-get update ? Maybe > > > > dselect looks at /etc/apt/sources.list and doesn't ever > > > > look at the /etc/apt/preferences file? > > > > > > No. Michael is doing the right thing here. When configured to use apt as > > > its access method (as is the default), 'dselect update' runs 'apt-get > > > update' and then merges the output into dpkg's available file. I advise > > > never using 'apt-get update' directly. > > > > Thank you. I know that I'd read that suggestion somewhere, and since, > > I've made it my habit. However, for purposes of a cronjob, how do I do > > _this_ with dselect ??? > > > > apt-get -q=2 update > > Poking around in /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/update, I believe you can set > 'DSelect::UpdateOptions "-f -q=2"' in /etc/apt/apt.conf (which you can > create if it doesn't exist). Yes, thank you, this does work unattended: # cat /etc/apt/apt.conf APT::Cache-Limit12582912; APT::Default-Release"testing"; DSelect::UpdateOptions "-f -q=2"; -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 877.596.8237 - Dare to fix things before they break . . . - Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Wheelmouse
I'm not able to make my wheelmouse work. It's a basic Logitech wheelmouse. The corresponding lines in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file are: Section "InputDevice" # Identifier and driver Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol""PS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "ZAxisMapping" " 4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" EndSection Anything tu suggest? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:08:22AM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > My mother needs to access her email. I installled Debian on the > computer. She has no problems using Debian. However, I had to do the > install because she has no clue about settings in XFree86. With knoppix > she just has to press the power button and she gets logged into KDE. Yes, but see, this still holds true that the difficulty of the installer doesn't matter. Debian trades off one bitch of an installer for the ability to run on very little maintenance (which, if you script it, you could have her box send you an email every time it dialed up, or serve the dialup for her yourself, and do it yourself for her every once in a while) for extremely long periods of time, and extremely customizable to your mom's needs and what hardware you've got to do it with. Knoppix, on the other hand, trades off a lot of usability and pretty much the entire need for a packaging system but lets you cram the same OS on almost any semi-recent (like at least a Pentium) hardware with the reasonable expectation that most, if not everything, gets autodetected correctly. > I got X to work. It wasn't so tough (I can even run the gimp). You just > have to remember to mount your mouse :) Umm, you can only mount block devices...character devices like mice can't be mounted... > the command is something like > settrans /dev/mouse IMPS/2 /dev/psaux > and you tell X to use /dev/mouse and osmouse. OK, that's telling X about your mouse, not mounting it. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9JjaJ5vLSqVpK2kRAjvLAJwPJ0P3/2jNfn/LTPuu5N8dXItYCACfcM5S sbHZSIH7HSjr/vY8w1u3pM4= =4KpU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No sound - onboard VIA VT8233 AC97
Josh Metzler wrote: I would appreciate any advice anyone can give me as to how to get sound working on my new box. The mother board is the Shuttle AV49N, which has onboard VIA VT8233 AC97 sound. I have been testing with cat reflect.au > /dev/dsp. (reflect.au is a sound that comes with kbounce.) This returns with no messages, but also with no sound coming out the speakers. Thanks in advance, Josh I have a different Shuttle MB model that has the VT8233 / AC97 chipset in it. Sound is working OK with ALSA here. I believe I had it working at one time with the kernel's built-in OSS drivers too, but I can only help with the ALSA setup now. Tell me what you have done so far, and which kernel version you are using. The pre-compiled ALSA files only come compiled against a couple of the available kernels now. If you want to use ALSA, you first must get one of these kernels installed or compile your own version of ALSA against your kernel from the source. I would advise going the pre-compiled route. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backporting Questions
Elliot Dray wrote: > > To build the package it needs root-like privileges and so use > > fakeroot. But don't use real root. > > Is it just because of good practice why you shouldn't use root? there is no > technical reason, is there? Good practice, good sense. Building packages implies debug and development. Which implies bugs. Running as root places you completely at the mercy of any bugs that exist in the package building scripts. The possibilities range from simple things like just accidentally changing the permission or ownership of a system file to much more serious damage. At the time it becomes a .deb package programs like 'lintian' can check for many classes of problems before you install it using real root and provides a safety net. > > If there are build dependencies then the apt-get build-dep should > > install them. If there is a dependency upon another package in > > unstable which needs to be backported then you need to start again at > > the beginning and to backport that package first. > > So you have to find the root and work forwards, ok. Does anyone have a > script that can do this or is it a by hand job? You will have to work through those by manually. > > > 1c)do you end up with a system at testing or unstable by > > > stealth, because it has recursively installed so many products? > > > Yes, no, maybe. It depends upon what you are installing and how you > > define things. > > As a test I was thinking of evms (only as a test) or request-tracker3. I > suppose it depends on how many programs you have to backport in order to > get the one you want to backport successfully. I'm not sure what you mean > by how you define things? If you define stable as all of the shared libraries and you are required to backport a shared library then you are not running stable anymore, at least not for that shared library. If you define stable to be just glibc-2.2.5 then when backporting other libraries you are still running stable. If you backport GNU coreutils from unstable to stable you are not changing libraries at all and so would seem to be running stable still, but the basic command set is now is different and has different options in some cases. I think that pushes you out of stable and into unstable as well. I see it as basically a judgement call as to what you are changing and how important it is to the system in general. As with most judgement calls there is room to squirm around. But keep this in mind. If you write an application that uses a feature not found in a stock stable release and give it to someone who is running a stock stable release then it won't run there. Certainly if it runs on your machine that you developed it upon then you could no longer claim that you were running stable because if you were it would not run there. Or if you were running stable then the aplication would also run for the other person running stable. In some ways 'stable' is a handle that grips the entire set of versions of packages all at one time. Which is why release names such as potato and woody mean something but testing and unstable names don't mean anything unless you also put a date with them and even then it would be harder to correlate dates to actual package versions. > > What are dependency files? I could not deduce to what you were > > refering. > > I was basically refering to the files that get installed as part of the > build-dep, once you've managed to build your backport can you remove these > files that were pulled down in order to satisfy the dependencies so that > your package would build from source. Again this was what was said in > another post awhile back. Oh, okay. Yes you can remove those. But if you try to backport again you will just need them again. Those are stock packages for stable at the time you install them. It is usually easier just to leave them installed. You might check out the 'deborphan' and 'debfoster' packages which provide global ways to manage packages. > Ok, understand, but wouldn't it be viable for some packages which have few > dependencies (and backport easily) to be backported at the time of creation > by the developer? just a thought This topic gets discussed, at great length I might add, every so often in debian-devel. In summary anyone could set up a track for this purpose. But so far no one has decided to champion such a track enough to actually do it. There are some tricky issues so it is not quite as simple as you might think at first guess. And remember this would be needed across 11 architectures too. Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
iso images etc
I have become interested in the creation of a personalised distro. 'Gentoo' was on the CD which accompanied my monthly Linux Magazine, but this only contained tarballs for 3 stages. After asking around, I was referred to 'Linuxfromscratch' - its literature is very detailed and after reading it two or three times I'm beginning 'to see the light' (tongue in cheek!!). Sometimes I have access to an ADSL line, so I have downloaded an .iso image of Gentoo. Now, I realised that I didn't understand exactly what an .iso image was, so I've googled and now have that a little clearer. But what I don't understand is how to boot the image I've downloaded and I find no clear explanation. I've found a Windows program called 'undisker' which allows me to see what is in the image. Briefly it contains two folders, one named 'gentoo' which holds bz2 files for the three stages, and the other named 'isolinux' which contains files which have to do with booting (some of the .msg files are readable as text), plus a file named 'livecd.cloop' (35+Mb) - google tells me this is 'compressed loopback filesystem support'. I burned the .iso image to a CD, but to make it bootable, I was asked to add the contents of a floppy - presumably containing drivers to activate a CD-ROM drive. I couldn't do anything about that, and if I change my BIOS to boot from a CD-ROM it doesn't. I thought the .iso downloaded was bootable. Would someone kindly explain (in simple terms):- 1. How to I get the CD to boot? 2. Is there some special reason to use the cloop - would some other form of compression not surfice? 3. Is there a linux package which allows one to read and extract files from an .iso image. Thanks, John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 01:07:21AM +1200, cr wrote: > On Saturday 21 June 2003 21:55, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > And, just so I can join in the foray of the auto-detect flame-fest here, > > if a user doesn't know his hardware well enough to be able to pick it > > from a list he shouldn't be installing an OS in the first place. > > Errr, *wrong*.Much of my gear is second-hand, and of course the first > thing the original owners invariably do is lose the manuals. :(My > current motherboard is the first one I've ever had a manual for, ditto my S3 > VGA card, and I've *never* owned any monitor of a brand that's been listed in > the 'X' config options. Take the lid off, write down all the type numbers, product codes, serial numbers even, off all the cards, disk drives etc, and the type numbers off the large ICs. Do the same for the numbers on the back of the monitor; if there aren't any take that apart too and write down anything written on the circuit board. FCC IDs can be useful too. If in doubt, write down everything. Then type the numbers into Google until you get some hits that seem to relate to what you actually saw when you took the lid off. It may be a bit laborious, but it works, and it can even break the obfuscation of the real manufacturer that is a problem with eg. secondhand Compaq parts. Autodetection? Pah. Most of my experience of the above procedure has been in getting Windoze machines working. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HOWTO layout formatting
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:00:30 -0400 Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey all, > > i want to write a mini-howto on all the black magic i had to go > through to get debian onto this dell inspiron 8000 (i know there are > lots out there; i want to write another). is there any specific > txt2html or latex2html or some formatting tool that is standard for > the HOWTOs? I'm just going with LaTeX for the time being, but it's > not quite the style that they have (i.e., > http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/reference.en.html). I'm surprised you needed any magic at all. All I needed was this: http://vergil.chemistry.gatech.edu/~park/dell.html#debian "mini-HOWTO" sort of implies a connection to the Linux Documentation Project; their author's guide and templates are here: http://en.tldp.org/LDP/LDP-Author-Guide/ http://en.tldp.org/authors/index.html#resources Having been the HTML route one thing I most strongly recommend is to write the doc in XML (preferable) or SGML and use the tools to convert to HTML. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto use defaults/preferences to keep to testing ???
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:17:58AM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > Also sprach Colin Watson (Sat 21 Jun 02003 at 12:58:47PM +0100): > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 07:20:16AM -0400, Shawn Lamson wrote: > > > Can I ask why you do $dselect update instead of $apt-get update ? Maybe > > > dselect looks at /etc/apt/sources.list and doesn't ever > > > look at the /etc/apt/preferences file? > > > > No. Michael is doing the right thing here. When configured to use apt as > > its access method (as is the default), 'dselect update' runs 'apt-get > > update' and then merges the output into dpkg's available file. I advise > > never using 'apt-get update' directly. > > Thank you. I know that I'd read that suggestion somewhere, and since, > I've made it my habit. However, for purposes of a cronjob, how do I do > _this_ with dselect ??? > > apt-get -q=2 update Poking around in /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/update, I believe you can set 'DSelect::UpdateOptions "-f -q=2"' in /etc/apt/apt.conf (which you can create if it doesn't exist). > Secondly, on the subject topic, I remain confused ;> Sorry, can't help you there; I don't believe in mixing distributions, so I don't use /etc/apt/preferences.. (Then again, I don't run testing either. Given how much time I spend trying to fix bits of testing, I suppose I should find a machine to run it on ...) Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 15:01, Joris Huizer wrote: > --- Mark Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > > > Wow, there must really be something wrong with me, > > because I actually > > _like_ the debian installer. I find it simple and > > flexible. I can't say > > I have ever tried to install on a machine where I > > didn't know what > > hardware was in it... actually I don't think I've > > ever _had_ a machine > > where I didn't know what hardware was in it. > > > ... > > Well, the same is true for me! The only thing was a > bit of configuration to get my nvidia card working - > and getting a mouse to work; I never had much trouble > understanding questions even though I didn't know much > about the hardware (and the mouse problem was a silly > mistake of me) > > Joris > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com I've dealt with machines where I didn't know the hardware included - if you do computer consulting, that happens a lot. I tell clients that if they don't have the documentation for a particular device, I make no guarantees that they will be able to use it. I make no guarantees anyhow, given the unpredictability of system difficulties. -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: debian
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 14:50, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 13:45, Mark Roach wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 13:42, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > > > > What about a Box that says: > > > "Do you want me to AutoDetect your hardware? > > > Yes or No" > > > > I'm not saying that I think autodetection is a bad idea, just that I > > don't particularly need/want it, and I don't imagine the people who > > write the debian installer particularly need/want it either, and that > > that is probably why it hasn't happened. It's that whole itch scratching > > thing that open source people are always talking about :-) RedHat et al > > have that particular itch because they want to make money, debian folks > > are doing it for themselves in most cases > > Knoppix does it and is based on Debian. > > Everyone deservers Free Software even people who aren't particularly > itchy :) > > Bijan That about sums things up - these were the design decisions that Klaus Knopper made for his edition, built with a very select collection of software and targetted for one CPU family. Apparently, we can point this out until we are blue in the face and it won't matter, but Debian is aimed to a substantively larger collection of processors, system architectures, functions, languages and even window managers than Knoppix is, and so the simple scale of the task of hardware detection is vastly greater than it is in the Knoppix environment. Anytime I've run Knoppix, I've needed at least one of the cheatcodes to get it working correctly with most of the hardware, so I personally don't experience the autodetection the way so many proclaim (just my bad luck,) while my three installs of Woody generally found everything, although the boot-floppies installation didn't pass that on to specifically choose the correct modules (I did that on my own.) That said, the times I've installed Red Hat, it has always shortchanged me on screen resolution. Annoying, even if the autodetection was *reasonable* :( -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: you guys are great!
On -708-Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 08:59:43AM +0100, David selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus, > i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > > > so, thanks guys! if i have problems i (or my friends) can't solve, > >i'm coming right here. i've already learned much just from reading others' > > I can only echo this ... You guys have helped me so many times I cant > even count and I realy appreciate it. You are a mine of information on > just about any topic. Makes the whole RedHat pay-for-support scheme seem kind of misguided huh?! I'd like to thank everyone as well, I just subscribed here a couple of days ago and I've already read more than I can absorb. -- Aaron Bieber - Graphic Design // Web Design http://www.core-dev.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to view changelogs?
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 11:04, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 04:09:39AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > After i do a 'apt-get update', Is there a convenient tool to look at > > > what has changed in the updated packages, before downloading the > > > packages and installing them? > > > > There certainly is. It's called apt-listchanges. It does exactly what > > you're asking. > > It really doesn't, though. He wants to see the changelogs before > *downloading* the packages, which is entirely reasonable. > apt-listchanges only does its thing after the packages have been > downloaded. > > Unfortunately, that's pretty much the only way to go. Personally I > can't believe there's still no way to view package changelogs on the > web. I think they might be on the developper page for the package, under the latest news heading. Bijan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 07:12, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 10:39:47PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 18:41, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > > Also, Debian has the ability to use 4 kernels (NetBSD, FreeBSD, Hurd and > > > Linux) while SuSE and RedHat are Linux-Only. > > > > The sad truth is that Debian GNU/Hurd is currently further along than > > either BSD port. > > Unless you count kernel stability, on which the Hurd is sadly rather > short ... I think the BSD ports are accelerating faster. > > -- > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to agree with Colin on this one - the BSD ports could well be officially shipping at the next release point if a few technological questions work out well over the next few months, and the resulting system seems sufficiently robust. The Hurd still apparently needs some important services in place and is awaiting a new microkernel that is supposed to solve some overhead and bottlenecks, iiuc. -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Please help with Sarge and my network card
Dear Friends, I am trying to get Sarge installed on my brand new Thinkpad T40. This little gem has an "Intel(r) Pro/1000 MT Mobile Connection" Gigabit Ethernet card on board. I am not able to get this working and am therefore stuck since Sarge netinst CD works but has no network and Sarge full ISO CD (made with Jigdo yesterday) does not seem to be working ocrrectly at all (does not find libc6-udeb or similar despite the CD checking correctly). Any help very much appreciated. Exact machine type for anyone who would care is a 237392G with a Pentium M 1.6GHz and ATI Radeon 9000 mobility, wireless etc. Thank you. Bob Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: KDE problem on startup
Christophe's solution did not work. To be more exact in my wording, KDE boots to the point where it says "Initializing System Services". Any input will be greatly appreciated. Curtis -Original Message- From: Christophe Courtois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: KDE problem on startup Le Samedi 21 Juin 2003 14:38, Curtis Vaughan a déclamé : > where it's starting system something or other it hangs for a long time, > then the startup screen disappears leaving just a light blue background > and nonething else. Create another user, and see if you obtain the same result ; or disable temporarily your .kde/ directory (KDE will recreate it). You'll at least know if the problem is system-wide or in your user's configuration (the erase-and-reconfigure may be the quickest way to have a functional system back...). -- Christophe Courtois - Ostwald, Alsace, France http://www.courtois.cc/ - Clé PGP : 0F33E837 -- Lois de Murphy de l'informatique : Loi du shareware customise Le seul programme connu qui comporte LA fonction tordue et vitale que vous recherchez depuis des annees est d'une part, totalement nul par ailleurs, et d'autre part, totalement incompatible avec les autres applications du domaine. <>
Re: how to view changelogs?
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 10:04, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 04:09:39AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > After i do a 'apt-get update', Is there a convenient tool to look at > > > what has changed in the updated packages, before downloading the > > > packages and installing them? > > > > There certainly is. It's called apt-listchanges. It does exactly what > > you're asking. > > It really doesn't, though. He wants to see the changelogs before > *downloading* the packages, which is entirely reasonable. > apt-listchanges only does its thing after the packages have been > downloaded. > > Unfortunately, that's pretty much the only way to go. Personally I > can't believe there's still no way to view package changelogs on the > web. Ah, thanks for the correction. Having a local mirror makes one forget that there's a thing such as downloading packages... :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Installing linux inside linux?
I've heard of several methods of installing Debian within an already running Debian install on the same partition. - Bochs: an emulator, does this recreate a system worthy of a debian install? or will emulator-specific problems arise? - chroot: what's a chroot? - UML: patch for kernel? I don't want to recompile my kernel Are there any other ways of doing this I'm not aware of? I have 1 hard drive with a windows partition, and one each of /, /boot, and scratch partitions, running Woody on the linux side. Thanks in advance. -- Joel Konkle-Parker Webmaster [Ballsome.com] Phone [662-518-1636] E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto use defaults/preferences to keep to testing ???
Also sprach Colin Watson (Sat 21 Jun 02003 at 12:58:47PM +0100): > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 07:20:16AM -0400, Shawn Lamson wrote: > > On Fri, June 20 at 5:19 PM EDT > > "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Based on the preferences set, I fail to see how my update installs so > > > much un-stable ?!?! > > > > Can I ask why you do $dselect update instead of $apt-get update ? Maybe > > dselect looks at /etc/apt/sources.list and doesn't ever > > look at the /etc/apt/preferences file? > > No. Michael is doing the right thing here. When configured to use apt as > its access method (as is the default), 'dselect update' runs 'apt-get > update' and then merges the output into dpkg's available file. I advise > never using 'apt-get update' directly. Thank you. I know that I'd read that suggestion somewhere, and since, I've made it my habit. However, for purposes of a cronjob, how do I do _this_ with dselect ??? apt-get -q=2 update Secondly, on the subject topic, I remain confused ;> Yes, I may want some un-stable on this system. I have read much of the apt howto, and all of sections 3.8 & 3.10. I still do not see how my configuration allows those un-stable installations. It is not so much that I minded installing those particular packages at un-stable; but, I do *NOT* understand the logic behind my preferences selecting those particular packages for installation. I hope that I have now made my intentions clear: I need to fully understand the logic behind configuring defaults/preferences, and I want to be able to _predict_ what can and cannot be installed in that manner. What do you think? -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 877.596.8237 - Dare to fix things before they break . . . - Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changing UID's?
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 05:36, cr wrote: > I'm 'cr', UID 1000 in my Debian setup.However, under RedHat I was > UID 500 and all my heaps of data (left over from RedHat) is filed as owner > 500 group 500. This means I can't readily access it without changing > something. > > I could, of course, chown the whole lot to cr:cr (i.e. 1000:1000 in > this Debian system) but that means if I ever crash this installation and have > to put my RedHat disk back I'll have to change it all back again, so I'm a > little reluctant to do that (and also, I'm nervous about changing ownerships > on entire directory trees) > > For now, I've given myself access by adding a line in /etc/group > cr1::500:cr > which as I understand it makes Debian think all the files with UID/GID of > 500:500 belong to a group 'cr1' and I, 'cr', am a member of that group. > (It doesn't work on any files copied from the old RH /home/cr/ which have > 'owner' permissions only, unless I su root or change permissions, but those > are just backups so I can live with that). > > However, it would be more sensible I think if I was User 500 in both > systems. Is there any safe legal way to change my UID from 1000 to 500? > Or, failing that, can I do it by using 'adduser' to create a new user, say > 'cr2', as user 500, then when I've got 'cr2' properly set up and everything > works, delete user 'cr' (with UID 1000) and rename user 'cr2' to 'cr'. > > And, more importantly, are there any hidden snags in any of the above which > will crash my whole system or lock me out of it? adduser can take an argument specifying uid so you can deluser cr and then adduser cr --uid 500 in slackware you always get asked. Bijan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 18:37, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > They could use knoppix also (sadly Knoppix includes the non-free > > adobe pdf reader...). > > I have remastered Knoppix 3.1, upgraded some of it's components like KDE > to 3.1, removed some non-free software (mpg123 and acroread) and made > Farsi ( We translated KDE ourselves to Farsi) in KDE, the default > language of Knoppix. Then changed some backgound images, and some icons > and added a readme, and renamed the whole thing to "Shabdix". > > Because of your name, I think you are also Iranian so I thought you > might be interested in a Farsi Knoppix without acroread ! :-) Cool! I am very interested. Where could I get a copy? It would be very nice to have such a thing. Bijan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto use defaults/preferences to keep to testing ???
On 6/21/03 6:58 AM, "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 07:20:16AM -0400, Shawn Lamson wrote: >> On Fri, June 20 at 5:19 PM EDT >> "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Based on the preferences set, I fail to see how my update installs so >>> much un-stable ?!?! >> >> Can I ask why you do $dselect update instead of $apt-get update ? Maybe >> dselect looks at /etc/apt/sources.list and doesn't ever >> look at the /etc/apt/preferences file? > > No. Michael is doing the right thing here. When configured to use apt as > its access method (as is the default), 'dselect update' runs 'apt-get > update' and then merges the output into dpkg's available file. I advise > never using 'apt-get update' directly. > > Cheers, Just for background info, how does doing Update within aptitude fit into this system? Thanks, Bill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 09:45, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 02:16:00PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > But the first week I spent staring at a bash prompt was different. I > > might have enjoyed it because I'm a geek, but I'm sure some people > > get fed up at some point. > > And Debian is not for those people, then. And to a lesser extent, > computers in general. This is a major pet peeve of mine, and one that > only got aggrivated working tech support: Computers are complex > machines designed to do complex tasks. Thus, there's a learning > curve. The sharpness of this curve is inversely proportional to the > usefulness of the software. Useful or droolproof: Pick *one*. My mother needs to access her email. I installled Debian on the computer. She has no problems using Debian. However, I had to do the install because she has no clue about settings in XFree86. With knoppix she just has to press the power button and she gets logged into KDE. > > Hardware detection on one architecture shouldn't hurt another > > architecture. There are many autodetection tools that are already in > > Debian. > > So install those and don't futz around during the install doing it by > hand. My point was that many of those tools aren't useful on all architectures, but that's not a problem. We shouldn't take the least common denominator. > > > What is the reason that you don't underestand that Debian is free > > > software project, so if you are unhappy with something, you can get > > > invlved and help it ? > > Not everyone is a computer programmer. > > Hire one, then. > > http://debian.org/consultants/ I'd be willing to contribute say $1000. However that probably won't get much useful work done (that's maybe a week's salary, less for an expert). It would be nice if there was a fund setup so even contribution of less than say $25k could make a difference. > > I've installed Debian GNU/Hurd. It's really not that difficult. > > Unless you have a mouse. Or want to run X. 8:o) Hurd is a work in > progress by anybody's terms. I got X to work. It wasn't so tough (I can even run the gimp). You just have to remember to mount your mouse :) the command is something like settrans /dev/mouse IMPS/2 /dev/psaux and you tell X to use /dev/mouse and osmouse. Bijan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to view changelogs?
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 04:09:39AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > After i do a 'apt-get update', Is there a convenient tool to look at > > what has changed in the updated packages, before downloading the > > packages and installing them? > > There certainly is. It's called apt-listchanges. It does exactly what > you're asking. It really doesn't, though. He wants to see the changelogs before *downloading* the packages, which is entirely reasonable. apt-listchanges only does its thing after the packages have been downloaded. Unfortunately, that's pretty much the only way to go. Personally I can't believe there's still no way to view package changelogs on the web. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gzip problems
--- Elizabeth Barham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is strange is this sounds a lot like tar. Here > is the 512 byte > header I made using the command 'tar cf test.tar > main.cpp': > A couple of very good suggestions. I'll experiment a bit with tar and see what comes up. Also, thanks for the tip about split. That's a utility I wasn't aware of. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cannot acces my machine (woody)
I have a problem to access my computer. I cannot access to root or any user. When i tried to login as root or user i have the following error: Cannot Execute /bin/bash: Exec format error So i cannot access my computer. I tried with the rescue disk and same error. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No sound - onboard VIA VT8233 AC97
I would appreciate any advice anyone can give me as to how to get sound working on my new box. The mother board is the Shuttle AV49N, which has onboard VIA VT8233 AC97 sound. I have been testing with cat reflect.au > /dev/dsp. (reflect.au is a sound that comes with kbounce.) This returns with no messages, but also with no sound coming out the speakers. Thanks in advance, Josh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB adsl modem
"Willem-Jan Meijer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > A friend of my has an adsl connection for a week now and he wants a server > with debian. > > The modem is a USB modem Which one? > and my experiences with debian and usb aren't that good > that I can say it's going to work. How can I get the modem > working? Is it auto-detected during the installation? Most likely you'll need to install a special driver. > Or can I get a cable from usb to rj45? No, that makes no sense. I have a Sagem Fast 800 USB here that sort of works, it's good enough for me when I'm home, but not reliable enough for a server, sometimes it loses connection and then (of course) the machine can no longer be reached from outside. If I really needed to I could try a newer driver and/or a watchdog that restarts it, though. Jürgen -- Jürgen Stuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.loria.fr/~stuber/ > rot 13 "fr" "se" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Linux Version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 06:51:01AM +0530, anubhav dubey wrote: > I wish to purchase your Debian Linux Version but i am not sure whether the > same will automatically detect my onboard sound and graphics card. Nothing is autodetected. Know your hardware going in. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9GtBJ5vLSqVpK2kRAgSmAKDdXABJek3TTQBCqcG7gsFvzS0pAwCgn4xn 1nEQyaNK/8ALLuZmBT00ed8= =wO5/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 02:16:00PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > But the first week I spent staring at a bash prompt was different. I > might have enjoyed it because I'm a geek, but I'm sure some people > get fed up at some point. And Debian is not for those people, then. And to a lesser extent, computers in general. This is a major pet peeve of mine, and one that only got aggrivated working tech support: Computers are complex machines designed to do complex tasks. Thus, there's a learning curve. The sharpness of this curve is inversely proportional to the usefulness of the software. Useful or droolproof: Pick *one*. > Hardware detection on one architecture shouldn't hurt another > architecture. There are many autodetection tools that are already in > Debian. So install those and don't futz around during the install doing it by hand. > They could use knoppix also (sadly Knoppix includes the non-free > adobe pdf reader...). Write to Klaus and ask him to exclude it. Or master your own. There's a howto on Knoppix's site. > > What is the reason that you don't underestand that Debian is free > > software project, so if you are unhappy with something, you can get > > invlved and help it ? > Not everyone is a computer programmer. Hire one, then. http://debian.org/consultants/ > I've installed Debian GNU/Hurd. It's really not that difficult. Unless you have a mouse. Or want to run X. 8:o) Hurd is a work in progress by anybody's terms. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9GGPJ5vLSqVpK2kRAmczAJ40fXA+4uO+28mWPhCeAAwlEFfm1gCfVjS8 1ANfuUyKJjuStas73qs8ayI= =z3DB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 04:55:47AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > My first ever Linux install was done with Potato a year and a half ago. > The only experience I had had with anything remotely linux related > before then was using cygwin for a few months. So essentially I knew a > few basic bash commands. I knew nothing about the kernel, the > filesystem, or anything. I had no real idea what modules were, and the > whole "sources" thing baffled me. And, worst of all, I didn't find out > about this list until AFTER I had a working install. :) You tried it without reading the manual, eh? - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9F+cJ5vLSqVpK2kRAtZyAJ9V3dvrgOxBawpW0TDgmOZEmk+IMQCfUzFe ZSJcAMvDARxO9hSt+DVaEro= =6Ae6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 01:07:21AM +1200, cr wrote: > > And, just so I can join in the foray of the auto-detect flame-fest here, > > if a user doesn't know his hardware well enough to be able to pick it > > from a list he shouldn't be installing an OS in the first place. > > Errr, *wrong*. Much of my gear is second-hand, and of course the > first thing the original owners invariably do is lose the manuals. > :( My current motherboard is the first one I've ever had a manual > for, ditto my S3 VGA card, and I've *never* owned any monitor of a > brand that's been listed in the 'X' config options. Actually, he's right. It's 2003 and people still don't know about Google? > Yet, both RedHat and Mandrake's graphical installers and Debian's penguin > logo display fine with *whatever* card I'm running - what is it the > installers know that they won't tell X config ?:( X is not the framebuffer. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9GAuJ5vLSqVpK2kRAuXtAKCcX/9ky0fpJ+DctbpywY9IFlAvrQCeOFNT TEmu8RerizlzISI307nV2Xs= =w4VW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 03:36:19PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > He can't make that choice. He can't decide oh well I don't feel like > installing Debian it's too hard, I'll just run Debian :) He has to > install it first. Sure he can. Find your local high school Debian geek and bribe him with Taco Bell and/or coffee. You're out $5 and about an hour. You get a working system without having to deal with the installer. > If a user can't install then there's no point reviewing the rest of the > system. The problem is, reviewers stop when the install does. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9F9XJ5vLSqVpK2kRAsfmAJwPDHwHqHXsnB74qNP0UYD913k0XQCfUGF2 fWNtkQD1bh+sT/U3q1pJgIw= =8r95 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy firewall advice
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:06:47 -0500 Joel Konkle-Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a stock Woody system with Gnome 1.4 running, connected to the > 'net via a 802.11b connection. I want to put a simple firewall on there, > just to keep things locked down a little more than they are now. > > Is there anything real simple, user-friendly, configure-and-forget > available for Woody? I'm used to ZoneAlarm for Windows, so that gives > somewhat of an idea of how much I know about firewalls. > You probably want something with a nice GUI, so I would try firestarter. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 12:49:02PM -0400, Kevin MacNeil wrote: > Forgive me for asking such an obvious FAQ, but is there a HOWTO anywhere > that details how to do this? The apt howto...just edit sources.list. The only version that won't give you bizarre dependancy problems is sid, though, if you're moving from Knoppix. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9F4eJ5vLSqVpK2kRApcsAJ43pjc2CKF/ITfxLebmyTNnsrSsrQCfY7Ng FGk96Co4pHZyJufV/9OsXRI= =vGXZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cupsys trouble
Johannes Graumann wrote: Hello, I'm running Cupsys 1.1.19final-1 on a testing system dito, running fine now. Does anybody have an idea where my problem could be? Please push me into the right direction! thought it could be related to java/javascript, since i don't exactly know how webinterface works, so i tried. Still runns ok here. No idea. gk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 01:57:25PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > I don't see how adding hardware detection to i386 hurts any of the other > architectures. Having to support two different installer designs gets messy fast. That's just begging for even longer release cycles. > P.S. Red Hat and Suse support other architectures too. Do they support 14 archetectures and four kernels? Didn't think so. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9Fz0J5vLSqVpK2kRApAgAJ0RdpX9w1UVAER6dx2ceSS5b6GO7QCeMuKg rrhKz+myDXuLF0r/aj2ay8k= =ijmw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 01:32:47PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > Debian runs on many architectures (have you even looked > > athttp://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual recently?) > (This sounds like an insult, this is mean, and I don't think I deserve > this). Wait, wait, wait...you consider it an insult that you're expected to actually read something? Or are you insulted that Debian doesn't hold you to just i386? That's pretty damn pretentious to think other people are going to do the thinking for you. > I just said that there is no reason why Debian can't have autodetection. And everybody else has pointed out that Debian doesn't *just* support i386. Knoppix supports only i386, which is why autodetection is worked out there. Debian needs to work out autodetection for fourteen architectures across four kernels. I don't see Knoppix doing that. You're welcome to contribute the code to make autodetection work on m68k, sparc, alpha, powerpc, arm, mips, mipsel, hppa, ia64, and s390. Get crackin, if you don't act soon you'll also need to do sh3 and sh4. And that's just the Linux kernel. Don't forget hurd-i386, freebsd-i386, netbsd-i386 and netbsd-alpha. Sound like too much work? Then quit bitching, you're part of the problem. > However I have sometimes done 20+ installs of Debian on i[3456]86 PCs > and have used Knoppix because it saves me LOTS of time. Why not check out systemimager? Install once, ghost to many. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9Fx2J5vLSqVpK2kRAnuCAKCeE4APDaAck8z1fZsQBi3Z8w7yJQCgl5bC gJN4fwq0FhGXEyyFRTOIKSo= =dcDo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail delivery failure
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 at 11:50pm, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: :On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 04:07:11PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: :[...] : :| This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). :| :| A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its :| recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: :| :| [EMAIL PROTECTED] :| failed to stat /home/pwiseman (No such file or directory): : :What does :ls -ld /home /home/pwiseman :report? :~$ ls -ld /home /home/pwiseman drwxrwsr-x3 root staff4096 Jun 15 21:59 /home drwxr-xr-x 73 pwiseman pwiseman12288 Jun 21 09:09 /home/pwiseman Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 *Google First, Ask Later* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian
On Saturday 21 June 2003 21:55, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > > Well, popular reviews are usually aimed at 'new users', or intelligent > > amateurs, and from their point of view the install is a major > > consideration. (Professionals probably won't be reading that sort of > > reviews and the 'just-buying-it-to-play-games-on' crowd won't be reading > > any reviews anyway). I honestly wouldn't recommend Deb to a new-to-Linux > > user. Knoppix maybe (not that I've used it), or Red Hat, and maybe > > graduate to Deb when they have a handle on what Linux is like. > > > > If I didn't have the familiarity with what was going on, gained from > > maybe half-a-dozen Red Hat installs / setup sessions, I think Woody's > > installer would have baffled me. Knowing roughly what to expect is 99% > > of the battle. As it was it took three install attempts before I got one > > (with X and PPP working) that was good enough to switch to. > > My first ever Linux install was done with Potato a year and a half ago. > The only experience I had had with anything remotely linux related > before then was using cygwin for a few months. So essentially I knew a > few basic bash commands. I knew nothing about the kernel, the > filesystem, or anything. I had no real idea what modules were, and the > whole "sources" thing baffled me. And, worst of all, I didn't find out > about this list until AFTER I had a working install. :) > > But I pulled out an old Pentium 133 I had lying around, and started > trying to install Debian on it. After my 2nd try, I had a working > installation. One more wipe and reinstall and I had the basic hang of > the installer. Then it was time to repartition the disk on my actual > desktop machine and get to work. 3 months later, every last semblance of > Windows and proprietary software had been wiped from my hard drive. > (I've since had to install a few closed-source Linux programs/drivers, > but I'm maintaining a relatively free system. I never thought twice > about "stealing" software through the use of cracks while I was using > Windows, but now the very thought of it makes me feel dirty. Both the > stealing aspect and the fact that I had a REASON to do it. Free software > literally lets me sleep better at night. :) Well, I have no conscience whatever about stealing Micro$oft software. The way I look at it, if I'm forced to use their software for any particular application it's because M$ have managed to coerce almost everybody into using it, squashed any competition, and got obscenely rich by doing so. However, other shareware I do have a conscience about, I've even registered some. ;) > And, just so I can join in the foray of the auto-detect flame-fest here, > if a user doesn't know his hardware well enough to be able to pick it > from a list he shouldn't be installing an OS in the first place. Errr, *wrong*.Much of my gear is second-hand, and of course the first thing the original owners invariably do is lose the manuals. :(My current motherboard is the first one I've ever had a manual for, ditto my S3 VGA card, and I've *never* owned any monitor of a brand that's been listed in the 'X' config options. If I ever help to install Linux on any of my friends' computers, I expect they'll have lost the manuals too.So auto-detect could be very handy. Both with RedHat and Debian, I've found that 'X' configuration was the biggest single problem. Both RedHat *and* Deb failed to come up with any monitor setting that would work, failed to start X with 'generic' monitor, and I had to experiment extensively with XF86Config before it would work. In fact, if I run RedHat I use my S3 card because I can't make it work with my on-board SiS/AGP video driver; with Debian it's the opposite. Yet, both RedHat and Mandrake's graphical installers and Debian's penguin logo display fine with *whatever* card I'm running - what is it the installers know that they won't tell X config ?:( cr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing UID's?
On (20/06/03 21:36), cr wrote: > > I'm 'cr', UID 1000 in my Debian setup.However, under RedHat I was > UID 500 and all my heaps of data (left over from RedHat) is filed as owner > 500 group 500. This means I can't readily access it without changing > something. > > I could, of course, chown the whole lot to cr:cr (i.e. 1000:1000 in > this Debian system) but that means if I ever crash this installation and have > to put my RedHat disk back I'll have to change it all back again, so I'm a > little reluctant to do that (and also, I'm nervous about changing ownerships > on entire directory trees) > > For now, I've given myself access by adding a line in /etc/group > cr1::500:cr > which as I understand it makes Debian think all the files with UID/GID of > 500:500 belong to a group 'cr1' and I, 'cr', am a member of that group. > (It doesn't work on any files copied from the old RH /home/cr/ which have > 'owner' permissions only, unless I su root or change permissions, but those > are just backups so I can live with that). > > However, it would be more sensible I think if I was User 500 in both > systems. Is there any safe legal way to change my UID from 1000 to 500? > Or, failing that, can I do it by using 'adduser' to create a new user, say > 'cr2', as user 500, then when I've got 'cr2' properly set up and everything > works, delete user 'cr' (with UID 1000) and rename user 'cr2' to 'cr'. > > And, more importantly, are there any hidden snags in any of the above which > will crash my whole system or lock me out of it? > Have a look at man usermod and man adduser (group) - It would be worth creating a new user on both systems with the same UID and GID and use that account to rearrange everything. Don't forget, if you're using samba, to change smbpasswd. Clive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing UID's?
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > I'm 'cr', UID 1000 in my Debian setup.However, under RedHat I was > UID 500 and all my heaps of data (left over from RedHat) is filed as owner > 500 group 500. This means I can't readily access it without changing > something. > > I could, of course, chown the whole lot to cr:cr (i.e. 1000:1000 in > this Debian system) but that means if I ever crash this installation and have > to put my RedHat disk back I'll have to change it all back again, so I'm a > little reluctant to do that (and also, I'm nervous about changing ownerships > on entire directory trees) > > For now, I've given myself access by adding a line in /etc/group > cr1::500:cr > which as I understand it makes Debian think all the files with UID/GID of > 500:500 belong to a group 'cr1' and I, 'cr', am a member of that group. > (It doesn't work on any files copied from the old RH /home/cr/ which have > 'owner' permissions only, unless I su root or change permissions, but those > are just backups so I can live with that). > > However, it would be more sensible I think if I was User 500 in both > systems. Is there any safe legal way to change my UID from 1000 to 500? > Or, failing that, can I do it by using 'adduser' to create a new user, say > 'cr2', as user 500, then when I've got 'cr2' properly set up and everything > works, delete user 'cr' (with UID 1000) and rename user 'cr2' to 'cr'. > > And, more importantly, are there any hidden snags in any of the above which > will crash my whole system or lock me out of it? > > Regards > > cr I usually do this when I first install a new distro and before I mount my regular /home partition. adduser --uid 500 ajlewis2 After I have made the user and have the /home/ajlewis2 directory I edit fstab so that my /home partition will be mounted on the next reboot and then do 'mount /home' Now I have all my personal files in /home/ajlewis2 and my uid on the new distro is 500 like it was on the old distro. I came from RedHat a few years ago and am still using that original /home partition. I have shared it between distros a couple of times and had a few configuration files overwritten; so be careful if you do that. If you make this change after you have a bunch of files already on your debian user directory, then you will have to deal with changing those, but since it is a new install that should be minimal. Anita -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel Panic: Aiee, Killing Interrupt Handler!!
Hi all, Having the following system configuration... VIA EDEN 800 MHz processor 256 MB RAM Wildcard X100P Debian 3.1 kernel-2.4.18-bf2.4 I am gtting this error when I want to load wcfxo driver general protection fault CPU: 0--<0> Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!In interrupt handler - not syncing My computer completely froze at this point. Any help would be much appreciated! Regards Shimul
Re: Do DVD-drives support booting?
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 18:12, alberto wrote: > Hi folks, > > I thought they would, but I purchased a second-hand laptop VERSA SXi > with a DVD drive who won't boot my Woody disks (nor any other) > > BIOS is OK, and the drive itself, also. > > Have you got any idea what may be wrong, if there IS anyting wrong > with that? > > Actually, I would like to have an answer to that, first: Is it > possible that DVD-drives won't support booting from CD? Any (IDE) combination DVD/CD drive should boot from "bootable" CDs. Could it be that the DVD drive is old enough that it is *not* a combination DVD/CD drive, but strictly DVD? -- +---+ | Ron Johnson, Jr. Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson | | | | "Oh, great altar of passive entertainment, bestow upon me | | thy discordant images at such speed as to render linear | | thought impossible" (Calvin, regarding TV) | +--- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto use defaults/preferences to keep to testing ???
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 07:20:16AM -0400, Shawn Lamson wrote: > On Fri, June 20 at 5:19 PM EDT > "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Based on the preferences set, I fail to see how my update installs so > > much un-stable ?!?! > > Can I ask why you do $dselect update instead of $apt-get update ? Maybe > dselect looks at /etc/apt/sources.list and doesn't ever > look at the /etc/apt/preferences file? No. Michael is doing the right thing here. When configured to use apt as its access method (as is the default), 'dselect update' runs 'apt-get update' and then merges the output into dpkg's available file. I advise never using 'apt-get update' directly. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
