Re: APT Serious Bug

2003-07-04 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 01:20, Paul Johnson wrote:
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> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:47:24AM -0300, Guilherme Viebig wrote:
> > I get this error message
> > 
> > E: Internal error. could not immediate configuration (2) on libpam-modules
> > 
> > Now my apt is bugged.
> 
> Nope, it's not.  Looks like possibly a bad package, though, someone
> else posted about a different libpam package giving the same error.

I didn't notice this thread earlier, but just in case no one has posted
the fix for it yet, just install the packages manually using dpkg. i.e.

apt-get install --download-only libpam-modules
dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/libpam-modules*.deb

You'll probably also need to install libpam0g along with it. There's a
bug report already filed against libpam0g that gives this temp fix.

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2.4 kernel and USB problems.

2003-07-04 Thread Kelly Harding
hi,

I'm having problems with a USB mouse (MS Optical Wheel mouse).

I've compiled a 2.4 series kernel (2.4.21) and it works fine, except for an 
annoying problem where it doesn't seem to want to set up my USB mouse.

I'm running this on a Dual Pentium Pro pc (Intel PR440FX motherboard).

Everything else I need since self compiling the kernel seems to work fine.

I initially installed using woody, but have since upgrade to 
testing/unstable, without much/many problems.

I don't know what I've done wrong, am I using the wrong hotplug agent? have 
i made an error with the kernel compile?

Jul  4 06:50:53 debian kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned 
address=2 (error=-110)
Jul  4 06:50:58 debian kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
Jul  4 06:50:58 debian kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new 
address=2 (error=-110)
Jul  4 06:50:58 debian kernel: hub.c: port 2, portstatus 303, change 0, 1.5 
Mb/s
Jul  4 06:50:58 debian kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned 
address=2 (error=-110)
Jul  4 06:51:03 debian kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
Jul  4 06:51:03 debian kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new 
address=3 (error=-110)
Jul  4 06:51:03 debian kernel: hub.c: port 1, portstatus 100, change 0, 12 Mb/s

This is the error I get continuously if I have the usb mouse plugged in. 
I'm unsure why it does this. I know the mouse works fine (i've tested it on 
other systems), and that it works fine with this system as the original 
installed kernel (2.2.20) when I first put woody on set it up fine, so I'm 
lead to thinking I've made an error somewhere in my kernel config? The 
mouse works currently via a USB/ps2 converter fine, but this problem with 
the USB is niggling at me a bit.

any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Kelly

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Re: Cisco router simulator?

2003-07-04 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 03:04:46AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> I'll take a look at zebra later.  Since people have also suggested
> buying hardware, anybody know how much Cisco 2600 units are going for?

Hmm, couldn't get zebra working.  Oh well.

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Re: cd recording

2003-07-04 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 07:07:05PM -0300, James LeClair wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a package for converting video to mpeg-1?

avidemux and mplex.

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Re: USB works partially

2003-07-04 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 06:54:18PM +0200, Joan Tur wrote:
> Hallo!
> 
> USB support is working because I'm using both a ps2 and a usb mouse (HP 
> Omnibook XT1000 laptop), but:
> 
> -running (as root) usbview it says it cannot access /proc/bus/usb/devices
> -running "gphoto2 --auto-detect" doesn't find the camera.  "gphoto2 
> --list-ports" shows the usb port either.

Looks like you need /proc support for USB in your kernel.

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Re: APT Serious Bug

2003-07-04 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:47:24AM -0300, Guilherme Viebig wrote:
> I get this error message
> 
> E: Internal error. could not immediate configuration (2) on libpam-modules
> 
> Now my apt is bugged.

Nope, it's not.  Looks like possibly a bad package, though, someone
else posted about a different libpam package giving the same error.

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Re: sources.list question

2003-07-04 Thread Wm . G . McGrath
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:29:10 +0100
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

::On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 06:04:45AM -0700, Wm. G. McGrath wrote:
::> I'm setting up my sources.list file again looking for faster,
::closer> mirrors. I've used netselect to find the best urls for my
::location> and setup, and have put together a comparitively small
::list of> mirrors on which to base the file. Ok so I've done that.
::> 
::> Now I'd like to test each line in the file and know that it
::works.> Is there a simple way to do that? Is there a 'debug' mode,
::or> equivilent, for apt or sources.list? I want to confirm that
::I've got> the path for each url right, that the distributions and
::components> are correct too.
::
::Can't you just do 'apt-get update' (or, better, 'dselect update')?
::If the appropriate index files can't be fetched then apt-get will
::complain.

No. I'm talking about deb lines in sources.list. Not package lists. 
I'd like to be sure that each url/line is checked. I've got backup
urls that apt will normally ignore that I'd like to check.

thanks,
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Out of Office AutoReply: Movie

2003-07-04 Thread Ricky Silver
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Re: How to make the debian system shut down with power off?

2003-07-04 Thread Stephen Cormier
On July 2, 2003 06:07 pm, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:

> Yeah, I've been struggling with this too, and it has now gone from a minor
> annoyance, to a big pain... I don't understand why I can't get it
> working... Knoppix does it, so... So I'm glad you asked, so I can follow
> up...
>
Knoppix has in /etc/modules the line apm power_off=1 which I believe is the 
missing piece to your puzzle. 


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Re: firebird + character display

2003-07-04 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 09:47:00PM -0700, Steven Yap wrote:
>   ttf-kochi-gothic

I needed this package to be able to see a shift-JIS page in mozilla, thanks!!

emma

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Re: The nature of testing and where can others help (Was Re: HowTofor Gnome2??)

2003-07-04 Thread Shaun ONeil
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 16:06, Jacob Anawalt wrote:
> Chris,
> 
> I am interested in learning Debian and contributing to the community. I 
> feel I am somewhat GNU/Linux savy, though I am a neophyte when it comes 
> to Debian. Perhaps my newness can bring out some confusion that people 
> who are more established in the system such as yourself may not notice. 
> I'm sure my newbie questions and attempts to help will be misdirected 
> from time to time. My experiances of the last three months, and more 
> especially the last two weeks, seem to coorispond with your explination 
> of stable, testing, and unstable.
> 
> Unfortunatly for a Debian neophyte like myself your descriptions seem to 
> be contrary on some points to the statements describing the packages 
> found here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages. I may be 
> misunderstanding the last paragraph of your post, but the phrase 
> "choosing one of these options also brings you the bonus that you'll get 
> security updates more quickly as testing is the last place for security 
> updates to appear" seems quite opposite of the statement from the 
> packages web page "'unstable' is also not supported by the security 
> team". The packages page does say that testing does not get timely 
> security updates, it does not say it is the last place for security 
> updates after unstable and unofficial packages. You may be speaking from 
> experiance, implying that the unofficial packages found through 
> apt-get.org or the unstable packages are more likely to have security 
> patches applied than testing because developers would be activly 
> updating these packages whereas packages in testing have to pass the 
> automated processes criteria, but the conclusion is not directly stated 
> or guarenteed anywhere. Perhaps the packages page on the debian web site 
> should be re-worded to reflect your observations on the nature of testing.


This is just the impression I get as a bystander, but I'm sure 101 list
regulars will tear it apart if I'm too inaccurate ..

The release process goes something like 

upstream
   |  into unstable as soon as the maintainers can
unstable
   | into testing after 10 days with no outstanding bugs, conflicts, etc
testing
   | becomes stable after a considerable freeze + bug hunt
stable

The task of the security team is to backport critical fixes from
upstream (and possibly some of their devising - I'm not sure, but I
don't want to underestimate the job they do), into Stable's packages.

So the way I see it, Unstable, and to an extent, Testing, don't have the
same dire need of the security team, as fixes from upstream arrive there
as part of the normal release process.  They don't arrive into Stable
without the security team's intervention.


> The thread seems to be quickly drifing off topic of the origional 
> question of:
> 
> Is there any documentation on how, using testing, to get the most
> complete (applets, to, please!) Gnome2 installation possible?
> 
> The answer seems to be no, there is not one that anyone who has 
> commented so far is aware of, and additionally it would probably be a 
> wasted effort to write one because the state of testing is not fixed. 
> The efforts would probably be best witten as a just a quick guide on 
> someone's website and is possibly already done by someone who's 
> backported Gnome2 to stable.
> 
> Since we have already drifted OT a bit towards what testing is or should 
> be, it seems to me that the state of gnome2 can be a learning experiance 
> if we let it. It can help us determine what packages should be grouped 
> together as gnome2 so that when it hits stable if a security update 
> changes some core gnome2 components to the level that they no longer 
> play well without upgrading other gnome2 tools, the depenancies can be 
> fixed now (while in testing and unstable) so they are already in place 
> (in the future stable) to not allow an update to one portion without 
> updating all interrelated systems.
> 
> I am trying to understand the auto-build process that moves packages 
> from unstable to testing. It seems that if the packages were defined so 
> that gnome2 desktop depended on nautilus2, gnome-control-center2 and 
> gnome-terminal (this list is not complete), then people couldn't 
> dist-upgrade to testing to try gnome2 out untill it was ready to go into 
> testing. If the rules for testing is that it's ok to stick the engine in 
> without a carburetor or exhaust system because they will go in sometime 
> down the line before it is sold to people, then I guess these 
> dependancies don't matter in testing, and maybe testing should have a 
> disclaimer "It's probably broken, but we don't want to hear about it 
> because it wasn't for sale yet anyway."


Another "as a bystander" observation, this is the "into testing after 10
days with no outstanding bugs, conflicts, etc" mentioned above.  A
package won't (/shouldn't?) get into Testing until all it's dependencies
are available 

Re: Bootable Rescue CD-ROM

2003-07-04 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:36:48PM +0200, Sebastian Kapfer wrote:
> Any comments? What do you use?

I use Knoppix and the debian rescue CD depending on what I need.

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Re: USB works partially (user won't access usb)

2003-07-04 Thread Shaun ONeil
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 14:55, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> * Joan Tur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030704 20:12]:
> 
> > > Sounds like you didn't mount the "usb proc filesystem". Add "none
> > > /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0 0" to your /etc/fstab, enter "mount
> > > /proc/bus/usb" and try again.
> > Thanks, that has worked fine  ;)
> 
> Your are welcome.
> 
> 
> > But now I'm able of downloading files as root, but not as user  8-?
> > 
> > And user belongs to usb group... any idea?  8-?
> 
> Sorry, I have no idea. I have only a small usb-stick, which runs out of
> the box, and I have no experience with gphoto and that.
> 
> 
> Yours sincerely
>   Alexander

I believe the usb permissions daemon is designed to handle this ..
package usb-perms

I have that and the usb proc filesystem, and gphoto2 'Just Works'.

HTH,
 Shaun



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Re: cd recording

2003-07-04 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 07:07:05PM -0300, James LeClair wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a package for converting video to mpeg-1?

TMPGenc.  It's a Windows package, but it runs fine under WINE.  Slowly, but
fine.  Free gratis, but not OSS.

> And while were at it, what do woody users prefer for burning:
> music compositions, vcd, iso etc...?

I just use cdrecord and cdrdao.  None of the GUI front-ends added much from
my viewpoint.
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Re: local mirror based on APT source.list format?

2003-07-04 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030705 00:08]:

> What I'd like to have it this:
> - I specify what to mirror using a list of lines like in sources.list,
>   allowing combinations such as:
>   - woody
>   - testing (sharing pool subdirectories/files with woody)
>   - the Gnome2 backport to woody
> - A cron job updates my local mirror.
> - When I decide to install a package, APT installs from the local
>   mirror.

Maybe you are looking for apt-proxy?


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Re: MIDI Converter

2003-07-04 Thread Roy Pluschke
On July 4, 2003 05:17 pm, Bill Webster wrote:
> I have a need to convert several songs that are currently in the midi
> format and I need to ultimately put them onto a music CD.
>
> Can someone give me a clue as to how I can go about this?

timidity can covert from midi to wav which can then be burnt to CD

R. Pluschke


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MIDI Converter

2003-07-04 Thread Bill Webster
I have a need to convert several songs that are currently in the midi
format and I need to ultimately put them onto a music CD.

Can someone give me a clue as to how I can go about this?


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Re: grep-dctrl

2003-07-04 Thread Rudy Gevaert
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:30:14AM +0200, Rudy Gevaert wrote:

> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 112550
> package `grep-dctrl':
>  error in Version string `': version string has embedded spaces
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)

I fixed it:
That line had a strang input: ]88 \ blaba some kind of control
character.  I replaced it with the correct version number.

Rudy

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Re: local mirror based on APT source.list format?

2003-07-04 Thread Daniel B.
Allister McRae wrote:
> 
> read into the dpkg and apt-get (maybe even apt-* files). There must be a
> way with those...you can do almost anything like you describe once you
> figure em out :)

Last I knew, apt-get didn't have any mirroring capability like I
described.  Do you know of some changes, or are you just assuming 
that it can do anything?


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pptpd help

2003-07-04 Thread C. R. Oldham
Greetings,

Sorry about the crosspost--the machine in question is running testing, but
there isn't much traffic on the testing list...

I'm trying to setup pptp from a Windows XP machine to a Debian server.  Both
machines are on private networks, with the Internet in between.  I got
things working to a point (ignoring the MPPE encryption mess for now)--I can
connect from the XP machine to the Debian server, but my problem is that I
can only talk to the Debian server--not any other machines on the Debian
server's network.

Kernel is kernel-image-2.4.20-3-k6_2.4.20-9_i386.deb with the kernel-mppe
patch.

I have the router on the Debian side configured to pass traffic on port 1723
to the Debian server.


XP Machine --- LinkSys Router -- Internet -- LinkSys Router -- Debian server
(192.168.1.0/24)
172.16.1.4 172.16.1.254 ...  192.168.1.254 192.168.1.252

I have proxyarp in the pptpd.options file, and a proxy arp entry seems to be
added to the arp table:

Address  HWtype  HWaddress   Flags Mask
Iface
192.168.1.1  ether   00:E0:06:ED:DF:4E   C
eth0
192.168.1.254ether   00:06:25:89:A2:85   C
eth0
192.168.1.101*   MP
eth0

And here is the routing table.

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
192.168.1.101   *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
default 192.168.1.254   0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0

When I ping other hosts on the Debian server's network the traffic is going
across the PPTP link, but nothing comes back.  What am I missing?  

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grep-dctrl

2003-07-04 Thread Rudy Gevaert
Hi,

I installed mysql-server on my server, and now I want to install lynx
and/or ntpclient.  This gives an error:

kain:/var/log/apache# apt-get install lynx
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  lynx
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not
upgraded.
Need to get 1445kB of archives. After unpacking 3584kB will be used.
Get:1 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main lynx 2.8.4.1b-3.2
[1445kB]
Fetched 1445kB in 2s (709kB/s)
dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 112550
package `grep-dctrl':
 error in Version string `': version string has embedded spaces
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
kain:/var/log/apache# apt-get install ntpdate
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ntpdate
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not
upgraded.
Need to get 0B/104kB of archives. After unpacking 233kB will be used.
Preconfiguring packages ...
dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 112550
package `grep-dctrl':
 error in Version string `': version string has embedded spaces
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
kain:/var/log/apache#


How can I fix this?

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Re: Repartitioned, now can't mount root

2003-07-04 Thread Ryan Heise
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 04:03:11PM -0400, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 20:18, Ryan Heise wrote:
> 
> > > When you "failed to mount" what command line or arguments did
> > > you use?  What's "-t XXX", etc.?
> > 
> > I didn't use -t, just:
> > 
> > mount /dev/hda1 root

Strangely, I just tried the exact same command this morning and it
worked:

# mount /dev/hda1 root

!!!

I wonder what this could mean?

Anyway, now I can mount this partition! I opened up lilo.conf and found
one mistake (changed install= from something like boot-menu.b to
"menu"), fixed it, reran lilo and rebooted. Success!

It sounds unlikely that the install= line would cause this. Would the
cause of my problem more likely be something simple, like I forgot to
run lilo after my last kernel upgrade? It was so long ago, I don't
remember what I did. I "thought" I just upgraded and reran lilo
itself...

Thanks again,

Ryan


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Re: local mirror based on APT source.list format?

2003-07-04 Thread Allister McRae
read into the dpkg and apt-get (maybe even apt-* files).  There must be a 
way with those...you can do almost anything like you describe once you 
figure em out :)

Cheers,
Allister
At 06:08 PM 7/4/2003 -0400, Daniel B. wrote:
For maintaining a local partial Debian mirror, is there any tool
that takes an APT-style sources.list file as the specification of
things to mirror?
And does it download packages _before_ you decide to install them
(as opposed to archiving packages after downloading them on demand)?
What I'd like to have it this:
- I specify what to mirror using a list of lines like in sources.list,
  allowing combinations such as:
  - woody
  - testing (sharing pool subdirectories/files with woody)
  - the Gnome2 backport to woody
- A cron job updates my local mirror.
- When I decide to install a package, APT installs from the local
  mirror.


Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: The nature of testing and where can others help (Was Re: HowTo for Gnome2??)

2003-07-04 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 10:40:34PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:13:10PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> 
> > IIRC, there was an indication a while back that Gnome2 was being
> > manually forced through into Testing.
> 
> No, it's not. 

I sit corrected then.  

> The components that have so far been upgraded were upgraded entirely
> automatically. The dependencies within the GNOME 2 packages are simply
> not strict enough to prevent (say) gnome-panel being installed into
> testing with an older gnome-control-center

Would this not constitute a bug?

> (and it's possible that they can't be, which is why releases aren't
> automatic either ...).

I find it hard to believe that the dependancies for the Gnome packages
couldn't have been set to stop this from happening.

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cd recording

2003-07-04 Thread James LeClair
Can anyone suggest a package for converting video to mpeg-1?
And while were at it, what do woody users prefer for burning:
music compositions, vcd, iso etc...?
Thanks,
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Re: Cannot mount cdrom if I use GRUB

2003-07-04 Thread Marino Fernandez
On Friday 04 July 2003 5:13 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Marino Fernandez wrote:
> > This must be a very simple and dumb problem, but I cannot figure it out.
> >
> > If I boot with LILO, I can mount my CD/DVD w/o any problem.
> > If I boot with GRUB I get an error message that says that my /dev/dvd is
> > not a valid block device (same with /dev/cdrom, /dev/sr0, /dev/scd0, even
> > as root).
> >
> > I have this in fstabs:
> > /dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660  defaults,ro,user,noexec,noauto  0  0
> > I have this in lilo.conf:
> > append="hda=scsi hdb=scsi hdc=scsi hdd=scsi apm=power-off nomce
> > wheelmouse" I have this in /boot/grub/menu.lst:
> > # kopt=root=/dev/hda13 ro vga=791 hdc=scsi
>
> did you try hdc=ide-scsi?


Thank you, that was it!.
Now I have this in /boot/grub/menu.lst:

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.21-686
root(hd0,12)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-686 root=/dev/hda13 ro vga=791 hdc=ide-scsi
savedefault
boot


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Re: Update cd image for Woody?

2003-07-04 Thread Peter Karlsson
Kevin McKinley:

> CD #1 of Woody 3.0r1 is available here (among other places):
> ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian-iso/

I don't want to update to 3.0r1 cd images, I want an update cd
(3.0->current) to be used in *addition* to the current set. Basically
something with everything from security.debian.org for Woody (bit
arranged as a cd). Does such a thing not exist?


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Re: The nature of testing and where can others help (Was Re: HowTo for Gnome2??)

2003-07-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:13:10PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:06:37PM -0600, Jacob Anawalt wrote:
> > If the rules for testing is that it's ok to stick the engine in
> > without a carburetor or exhaust system because they will go in
> > sometime down the line before it is sold to people, then I guess these
> > dependancies don't matter in testing, and maybe testing should have a
> > disclaimer "It's probably broken, but we don't want to hear about it
> > because it wasn't for sale yet anyway."
> 
> IIRC, there was an indication a while back that Gnome2 was being
> manually forced through into Testing.

No, it's not. The components that have so far been upgraded were
upgraded entirely automatically. The dependencies within the GNOME 2
packages are simply not strict enough to prevent (say) gnome-panel being
installed into testing with an older gnome-control-center (and it's
possible that they can't be, which is why releases aren't automatic
either ...).

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Re: Newbie to spamassassin- How to make it learn?

2003-07-04 Thread Marino Fernandez
On Friday 04 July 2003 9:34 am, SRIKANTH NS wrote:
> Hi
> Disgusted with the amount of spam received, I installed
> Spamassassin2.54 and configured it, It works properly for the past one
> month. I use fetchmail to receive mail and invoke sylpheed to read
> them from /var/spool/ mail/ srikanth folder and the spam goes to
> "caughtspam " file in my home directory .
>
> Nowadays I see one or two mails slipping past spamassassin. I saw that
> spamassassin can be trained. man pages did not reveal much. Since the
> mails are read in sylpheed how to point it out to SA?
> sa-learn command also does not work, it says command is not found.
> Can any body give some pointers or some links where tutroials can be
> read.?
> Thanks in advance
>
> N S Srikanth

I do this:

sa-learn --spam --dir /home/Marino/Mail/Spam/cur
sa-learn --ham --dir /home/Marino/Mail/inbox/cur

Note that /home/Marino/Mail/Spam/cur is the directory where I keep spam (I use 
KMail). /home/Marino/Mail/inbox/cur is where my good mail is (ham).



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Re: Bootable Rescue CD-ROM

2003-07-04 Thread Sam Varghese
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thus:
> 
> I'm looking for a bootable rescue CD-ROM with some Linux-based OS on it
> (preferrably Debian). It should include utilities like fdisk and mkfs,
> parted, grub, bash (please, no ash!), vim, ssh and a reasonable ftp (what
> about ncftp) client. lynx, X are nice, but not a requirement. It should be
> capable of mounting common filesystems like ext2, xfs, vfat.
> 
> Any comments? What do you use?

Damn Small Linux - http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

Sam
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Re: Where to set moz GUI font?

2003-07-04 Thread Andrew Schulman
> So, there seems to be some mix-up in moz 1.3 between the "GUI" and
> the "content". Is this a bug? Am I the only one to experience his?

Does your userChrome.css also include the following lines at the top?

/*
 * Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct functioning
 */
@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul";); /* 
set default namespace to XUL */

I dunno if this would matter.
Andrew.

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Re: The nature of testing and where can others help (Was Re: HowTo for Gnome2??)

2003-07-04 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:06:37PM -0600, Jacob Anawalt wrote:

> Unfortunatly for a Debian neophyte like myself your descriptions seem
> to be contrary on some points to the statements describing the
> packages found here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages. I may be
> misunderstanding the last paragraph of your post, but the phrase
> "choosing one of these options also brings you the bonus that you'll
> get security updates more quickly as testing is the last place for
> security updates to appear" seems quite opposite of the statement from
> the packages web page "'unstable' is also not supported by the
> security team". 

Unstable is not supported, but it is where new packages must filter
through before reaching Testing.  So, you have Stable which receives
direct security updates.  And Unstable which will no doubt rapidly have
a new package uploaded by the maintainer when a security problem is
found.  And Testing that must wait for packages in Unstable to filter
down to it.

> You may be speaking from experiance, implying that the unofficial
> packages found through apt-get.org or the unstable packages are more
> likely to have security patches applied than testing because
> developers would be activly updating these packages whereas packages
> in testing have to pass the automated processes criteria,

Exactly.

> If the rules for testing is that it's ok to stick the engine in
> without a carburetor or exhaust system because they will go in
> sometime down the line before it is sold to people, then I guess these
> dependancies don't matter in testing, and maybe testing should have a
> disclaimer "It's probably broken, but we don't want to hear about it
> because it wasn't for sale yet anyway."

IIRC, there was an indication a while back that Gnome2 was being
manually forced through into Testing.  My understanding of the automated
process is that a package can not automatically make it into testing
unless it's dependancies can be met by other packages already in Testing
or those migrating with it.

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Evolution shell error

2003-07-04 Thread Keith O'Connell
Hi,

I thought I would give Evolution a try just to see what it was like. I
installed it and ran it. It came up with the first screen of setup
information, but I was called away and selected "Cancel" and it closed
down cleanly.

I came back 10 mins later and ran evolution again, but this time I got
the error message; 

"Cannot initialise the Ximian Evolution shell: 
 Configuration Database not found"

I haven't had time to set it up, let alone screw it up! I have done a
search through the messages in the archives, but nothing leaps out at
me. Are there any suggestions as to where I should start to look for a
solution?

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local mirror based on APT source.list format?

2003-07-04 Thread Daniel B.
For maintaining a local partial Debian mirror, is there any tool 
that takes an APT-style sources.list file as the specification of 
things to mirror?

And does it download packages _before_ you decide to install them
(as opposed to archiving packages after downloading them on demand)?


What I'd like to have it this:
- I specify what to mirror using a list of lines like in sources.list,
  allowing combinations such as:
  - woody
  - testing (sharing pool subdirectories/files with woody)
  - the Gnome2 backport to woody
- A cron job updates my local mirror.
- When I decide to install a package, APT installs from the local
  mirror.



Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: Where to set moz GUI font?

2003-07-04 Thread Andrew Schulman
> Thanks to Benedict Verheyen and Andrew Schulman for their answers.
> I wonder what I am doing wrong, because both methods work only
> partially in my case (Sarge system + mozilla from Sid!). The
> results were as follows:
> 
> a) the .gtkrc approach: this changes the fonts in, e.g.,
>gtk-gnutella, but has no effect on mozilla 1.3.
> b) the userChrome.css approach: this changes the font-size in
>mozilla alright, but not the font-family. The font-family (in
>moz 1.3) is determined by the setting in Edit/Preferences/
>Appearance/Fonts, and then whatever is selected as
>"Proportional". So if I select "proportional=sans-serif",
>and "sans-serif=trebuchet", then the GUI font becomes
>trebuchet.
> 
> So, there seems to be some mix-up in moz 1.3 between the "GUI" and
> the "content". Is this a bug? Am I the only one to experience his?

No, I've never seen this happen.  In content, the "!important" flag is
supposed to make its setting override page-specific settings.  In chrome,
I'm not sure what other settings there are to override, but there may be
some somewhere.  Or, maybe you have a syntax error (hidden character?)
in that line which is causing Moz to ignore it.  Anyway I don't know why
content settings would affect chrome.

A CSS debug mode could show you which settings are applied from which
files in what order.  But if there is such a mode, I'm not aware of it.

For a few other ideas about chrome settings, see 
http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html.

Sorry.  Good luck.
Andrew.

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Re: suggestions for a good MTA?

2003-07-04 Thread Tom Anderson
Thanks to everyone who pointed out that exim (exim4, in this case) is
actually able to handle everything I wanted.  In the end, the
headers_rewrite option at the transport level was able to handle the
bulk of the changes.  I still had to use the rewrite section to
globally munge the envelope FROM entry (because my ISP requires it, and
it can't be modified at transport-time), but that one's an acceptable
compromise.

--- Tom Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need some suggestions on a good MTA for a workstation.  Here's what
> I'd like for it to be able to handle.
> 
> 1. Immediate delivery of local mail (messages from daemons, etc)...
> in
> other words I'd like to avoid shipping it off to my ISP, since I'm
> just
> going to turn around and re-fetch it.  No address rewriting should
> occur in this case, because that makes it harder to see "at a glance"
> that it was local.
> 
> 2. Forward outgoing mail to a smarthost, after rewriting the
> addresses
> as appropriate.
> 
> The hard part seems to be selective rewriting.  Everything I've
> looked
> at seems to either want to forward everything (nullmailer), or
> rewrite
> no matter what (exim, etc.).  Is there anything which can handle
> this?
> 
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Re: The nature of testing and where can others help (Was Re: HowTofor Gnome2??)

2003-07-04 Thread Richard Kimber
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 14:06:37 -0600
Jacob Anawalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> dependancies don't matter in testing, and maybe testing should have a 
> disclaimer "It's probably broken, but we don't want to hear about it 
> because it wasn't for sale yet anyway."

I thought that was what unstable was.
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The nature of testing and where can others help (Was Re: HowTo forGnome2??)

2003-07-04 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Chris,

I am interested in learning Debian and contributing to the community. I 
feel I am somewhat GNU/Linux savy, though I am a neophyte when it comes 
to Debian. Perhaps my newness can bring out some confusion that people 
who are more established in the system such as yourself may not notice. 
I'm sure my newbie questions and attempts to help will be misdirected 
from time to time. My experiances of the last three months, and more 
especially the last two weeks, seem to coorispond with your explination 
of stable, testing, and unstable.

Unfortunatly for a Debian neophyte like myself your descriptions seem to 
be contrary on some points to the statements describing the packages 
found here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages. I may be 
misunderstanding the last paragraph of your post, but the phrase 
"choosing one of these options also brings you the bonus that you'll get 
security updates more quickly as testing is the last place for security 
updates to appear" seems quite opposite of the statement from the 
packages web page "'unstable' is also not supported by the security 
team". The packages page does say that testing does not get timely 
security updates, it does not say it is the last place for security 
updates after unstable and unofficial packages. You may be speaking from 
experiance, implying that the unofficial packages found through 
apt-get.org or the unstable packages are more likely to have security 
patches applied than testing because developers would be activly 
updating these packages whereas packages in testing have to pass the 
automated processes criteria, but the conclusion is not directly stated 
or guarenteed anywhere. Perhaps the packages page on the debian web site 
should be re-worded to reflect your observations on the nature of testing.

The thread seems to be quickly drifing off topic of the origional 
question of:

Is there any documentation on how, using testing, to get the most
complete (applets, to, please!) Gnome2 installation possible?
The answer seems to be no, there is not one that anyone who has 
commented so far is aware of, and additionally it would probably be a 
wasted effort to write one because the state of testing is not fixed. 
The efforts would probably be best witten as a just a quick guide on 
someone's website and is possibly already done by someone who's 
backported Gnome2 to stable.

Since we have already drifted OT a bit towards what testing is or should 
be, it seems to me that the state of gnome2 can be a learning experiance 
if we let it. It can help us determine what packages should be grouped 
together as gnome2 so that when it hits stable if a security update 
changes some core gnome2 components to the level that they no longer 
play well without upgrading other gnome2 tools, the depenancies can be 
fixed now (while in testing and unstable) so they are already in place 
(in the future stable) to not allow an update to one portion without 
updating all interrelated systems.

I am trying to understand the auto-build process that moves packages 
from unstable to testing. It seems that if the packages were defined so 
that gnome2 desktop depended on nautilus2, gnome-control-center2 and 
gnome-terminal (this list is not complete), then people couldn't 
dist-upgrade to testing to try gnome2 out untill it was ready to go into 
testing. If the rules for testing is that it's ok to stick the engine in 
without a carburetor or exhaust system because they will go in sometime 
down the line before it is sold to people, then I guess these 
dependancies don't matter in testing, and maybe testing should have a 
disclaimer "It's probably broken, but we don't want to hear about it 
because it wasn't for sale yet anyway."

When I try to learn about gnome2, it is presented by gnome.org as "Gnome 
Desktop 2.0" http://www.gnome.org/learn/users-guide/2.0/. It talks about 
window managers, nautilus file manager, and the panel as one system, not 
as several seperate systems you might want to use individually. I 
wouldn't expect to find apache2 executable and apache1.3 modules in 
testing with apache2 giving me errors because it can't link to the 1.3 
modules, unless I also had apache1.3 executable and the two packages 
co-existed and functioned independantly of eachother. While gnome and 
gnome2 seem to co-exist to some degree, I do get errors when using the 
system because all the components are not gnome2.

Back to my interest in helping out. I don't have any intention to be a 
whiner or burden on people such as yourself who are graciously investing 
time and effort into bringing software such as gnome2 into the Debian 
system. I understand that we don't anticipate everything and mistakes 
happen. I loved the statement from Michael H. "'Oops.' GNOME in testing 
seems to be in very poor shape right now." It was a simple statement 
free of any scalding words or finger pointing, yet acknowleding that 
yes, that isn't how he would expect it to work. I would like

Re: Compiling kernel with patches

2003-07-04 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:32:38 +0200
Christophe Courtois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I'd like to add debianlogo (from sarge ; as a first patch before trying 
> something else) to my 2.4.21 kernel. The command line is :
> 
> nice -n 19 fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=.ccs.25+debianlogo 
> --revision 1 --added-patches=debianlogo kernel_image
> 
>  ...but it does not seem to work (still the pinguin at boot).

You seem to have a good command line.

Do you have a directory /usr/src/kernel-patches/all/debianlogo? How is it
owned? Does it contain the files "debian-logo-2.2.x.gz" and 
"debian-logo-2.4.x.gz"?

Have you successfully applied the debianlogo patch to any other kernels?

Kevin


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Re: Update cd image for Woody?

2003-07-04 Thread bob parker
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 05:15, Kevin McKinley wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:39:08 +0200
>
> Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * Kevin McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030704 19:25]:
> > > I haven't tried this, but I wonder if it would be possible to rsync
> > > that against a local copy of Woody 3.0, and avoid downloading the whole
> > > CD.
> >
> > Use jigdo, which downloads only files, which have not allready
> > downloaded (or which can't be found on your old disc set), and creates
> > a new disc image.
>
> That's not quite what I had in mind.
>
> Suppose I already have an ISO image of Debian 3.0. I'd like to have 3.0r1
> instead.
>
> Is it possible to rsync so that the 3.0 ISO becomes the 3.0r1 ISO, without
> downloading the whole thing?
>
You can use jigdo to get the update image. It's 138 meg plus the jigdo 
overhead at the outset.

Having got hte thing you can then use jigdo again to convert your 3.0r0 iso 
images to 3.0r1 isos.

hth
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Re: Where to set moz GUI font?

2003-07-04 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Thanks to Benedict Verheyen and Andrew Schulman for their answers.
I wonder what I am doing wrong, because both methods work only
partially in my case (Sarge system + mozilla from Sid!). The
results were as follows:

a) the .gtkrc approach: this changes the fonts in, e.g.,
   gtk-gnutella, but has no effect on mozilla 1.3.
b) the userChrome.css approach: this changes the font-size in
   mozilla alright, but not the font-family. The font-family (in
   moz 1.3) is determined by the setting in Edit/Preferences/
   Appearance/Fonts, and then whatever is selected as
   "Proportional". So if I select "proportional=sans-serif",
   and "sans-serif=trebuchet", then the GUI font becomes
   trebuchet.

So, there seems to be some mix-up in moz 1.3 between the "GUI" and
the "content". Is this a bug? Am I the only one to experience his?

Regards, Jan








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Re: Update cd image for Woody?

2003-07-04 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:39:08 +0200
Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * Kevin McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030704 19:25]:
> 
> > I haven't tried this, but I wonder if it would be possible to rsync that
> > against a local copy of Woody 3.0, and avoid downloading the whole CD.
> 
> Use jigdo, which downloads only files, which have not allready
> downloaded (or which can't be found on your old disc set), and creates
> a new disc image.

That's not quite what I had in mind.

Suppose I already have an ISO image of Debian 3.0. I'd like to have 3.0r1
instead.

Is it possible to rsync so that the 3.0 ISO becomes the 3.0r1 ISO, without
downloading the whole thing?

Kevin


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Re: USB works partially (user won't access usb)

2003-07-04 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Joan Tur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030704 20:12]:

> > Sounds like you didn't mount the "usb proc filesystem". Add "none
> > /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0 0" to your /etc/fstab, enter "mount
> > /proc/bus/usb" and try again.
> Thanks, that has worked fine  ;)

Your are welcome.


> But now I'm able of downloading files as root, but not as user  8-?
> 
> And user belongs to usb group... any idea?  8-?

Sorry, I have no idea. I have only a small usb-stick, which runs out of
the box, and I have no experience with gphoto and that.


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Re: Bootable Rescue CD-ROM

2003-07-04 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 16:00:24 +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:

> You can check out the Superrescue from the Kernel distri mirrors 
> (ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/dist/superrescue/v2)
> 
> Its RedHat based... but pretty useful.

Thank you, I'll try it out!

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Re: HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-04 Thread Michael Heironimus
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 07:44:02PM +0200, Sebastian Kapfer wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 05:00:13 +0200, Michael Heironimus wrote:
> 
> > Is anybody keeping score on how many different and unrelated font
> > configuration systems we have now?
> 
> Ermm... XF86Config... and fontconfig. What else?

I guess I'm not so much thinking of independent systems as of different
places people have to look when something's not right. XF86Config, Xft,
a font server if you run one, fontconfig for GTK2, and let's not forget
gtkrc, KDE, and X resources. If you want to be anal there are also all
those apps that use their own font configuration, like the Mozilla-based
browsers.

> My remaining GNOME 1 apps continue to work fine under GNOME 2. The bigger
> problem is that the GNOME 2 development seemingly involved dropping as
> many options/preferences as possible... :-(

I hear you there. I'm waiting for GNOME3 to further improve usability by
removing the ability to launch applications. As soon as you log in, it
should just automatically start all of the applications that the GNOME
developers think you should be running. After all, they're such experts
on how everybody should be using their desktops.

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Compiling kernel with patches

2003-07-04 Thread Christophe Courtois
 I'd like to add debianlogo (from sarge ; as a first patch before trying 
something else) to my 2.4.21 kernel. The command line is :

nice -n 19 fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=.ccs.25+debianlogo 
--revision 1 --added-patches=debianlogo kernel_image

 ...but it does not seem to work (still the pinguin at boot).

 I tried to set up this (although I thought make-kpkg would set it up 
alone):

PATCHES=debianlogo
PATCH_KERNEL=AUTO
KPATCH_debianlogo=2.4.20   # as debianlogo does not seem to be available 
for 2.4.21

 But that's not better. 
 
 

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Re: Very big files with tar

2003-07-04 Thread bob parker
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:57, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:50:52PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> > I'd like to do a backup to another partition using tar. Here are about
> > 9GB data to be saved. After a while tar complaints about a to big output
> > file (i think max size is around 2GB). Is there a way to split the output
> > in more files?
>
> Have you looked into the -z or -j options?

My experience with -j (bzip2) option is that it gives slightly better 
compression than -z (gzip) at the cost of 5 to 10 times longer to do the job.

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Re: HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-04 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 05:00:13 +0200, Michael Heironimus wrote:

> Is anybody keeping score on how many different and unrelated font
> configuration systems we have now?

Ermm... XF86Config... and fontconfig. What else?

>> 2) The Gnome Settings Daemon was not installed, and it repeatedly
>>complains about that lack.  I can't find any package that indicates
>>that it might contain this semi-mythical daemon.
> 
> I think that's because you need the GNOME Control Center, and that
> hasn't made it in to testing yet. Core pieces of GNOME2 haven't been
> moved from unstable to testing, while other pieces have.

You're thinking correctly. This "semi-mythical daemon" lives in
gnome-control-center. IMO this package should be a dependency of
gnome-session. Otherwise fools like myself forget installing it...

> I'm not sure that GNOME 1 and 2 could easily coexist even if the
> packages did allow it. They have different pieces of infrastructure, and
> GNOME applications tend to start up any infrastructure they need that
> isn't already running. And then they leave it running when they exit.

My remaining GNOME 1 apps continue to work fine under GNOME 2. The bigger
problem is that the GNOME 2 development seemingly involved dropping as
many options/preferences as possible... :-(

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Re: what is bf2.4, actually?

2003-07-04 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Colin Watson [Thu, Jul 03 2003, 02:44:18PM]:

> When you see "bf2.4" in a kernel package's version number, it indicates
> the fairly stripped-down kernel that's installed by default when you

Sorry, "stripped-down" is just wrong wording here. It has more drivers
that the actuall "2.2.x-vanilla" kernel for Potato. The only things not
available in bf2.4 are some exotic devices and gamer hardware, and many
people used it as before the ptrace exploit came to daylight.

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Re: HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-04 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:10:37 -0600
"John W. M. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If you're absolutely opposed to any unstable packages, then I
>> guess you're screwed.  That's what you get for running testing.
> 
> What, are you saying that I'm less likely to get screwed by running
> experimental, than testing?
> 
> I didn't know that.  Why?

I wouldn't say you're less likely to get screwed by running
experimental.  I'd say that you're *much* less likely to get
screwed by running a GNOME2 backport to woody, and generally
less likely to get screwed by running sid.

In general, up until the pre-release package freeze on testing, it's a
bad idea to think of testing as an intact version of Debian.  I tend to
think of testing as kind of like a big cardboard box in which the
different elements of the upcoming release are being placed, continually
being replaced by new versions as they become available (according to
the rules for stuff moving from unstable to testing).  At any given
point, up until the time of release, it's possible for stuff that will
need to be in that box at release-time to not be there yet; and it's
possible for some of the stuff in that box to not get along well with
other stuff in that box.  In general, people try to avoid stuff going
into testing that will cause problems for people who track it closely;
but it still happens sometimes.

A number of GNOME2 packages apparently haven't made it down into
testing yet.  Thus, any GNOME2 installation drawn from testing is bound
to be incomplete, and have problems.  That's the nature of testing;
stuff like that happens.  And when people tracking testing experience
problems with GNOME2 at this point, that's not a problem with GNOME2 or
testing; the problem is with the expectation that GNOME2 in sarge should
necessarily work.  Put another way, it's no more a problem with testing
than the fact that a car halfway down an assembly line doesn't work is
a problem with the car; instead, the problem is with the expectation
that a car at that stage of assembly *should* work.

So what to do?  If all you really want is GNOME2, then your best option
is running woody + a backport of GNOME2 to woody (see www.apt-get.org).
If you need official packages, then your best bet is to bite the bullet
and run sid.  Choosing one of these options also brings you the bonus
that you'll get security updates more quickly, as testing is the last
place for security updates to appear (since testing won't see security
updates to packages until the updated versions are put into sid and work
through the process of packages moving from sid to testing).

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2003-07-04 Thread George Pop

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Re: Update cd image for Woody?

2003-07-04 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Kevin McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030704 19:25]:

> I haven't tried this, but I wonder if it would be possible to rsync that
> against a local copy of Woody 3.0, and avoid downloading the whole CD.

Use jigdo, which downloads only files, which have not allready
downloaded (or which can't be found on your old disc set), and creates
a new disc image.


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Re: USB works partially

2003-07-04 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Joan Tur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030704 18:54]:

> - -running (as root) usbview it says it cannot access /proc/bus/usb/devices
> - -running "gphoto2 --auto-detect" doesn't find the camera.  "gphoto2 
> - --list-ports" shows the usb port either.

Sounds like you didn't mount the "usb proc filesystem". Add "none
/proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0 0" to your /etc/fstab, enter "mount
/proc/bus/usb" and try again.


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Re: hda died, moved hdb... SOLVED

2003-07-04 Thread Antonio Rodr>
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 13:19:06 -0400
Kevin McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:45:30 -0400
> Antonio Rodr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks to all of you. Finally got it. Small how to for future
> > reference. Steps:
> > 1. Boot with the installation CD (any should work, I used #1).
> > 2. Press F3 for information about possibilities (may be skipped?)
> > 3. type rescue root=/dev/hda1
> > 4. type in password for root, remount to write as indicated.
> > 5. Change /etc/fstab to reflect hda instead of hdb.
> > 6. Run update-grub.
> > 7. Edit /boot/grub/menu.1st as needed.
> > 8. Reboot.
> > 9. Enjoy.
> > 10. Contribute to the community.
> 
> Insert step 5a. Run grub-install /dev/hda.
> 
> I'm not sure why you didn't need to do this. When I changed hard
> drives the system wouldn't boot until I did.
 
You are right. I did it too. Had forgotten.


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wireless tcp/ip multi-line telephone solutions w/ answering machinesand VRU

2003-07-04 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
Anyone know of hardware / software (prefer free) for:
wireless telephone
tcp/ip with a gateway to the POTS
multi-line
w/ digital answering machines - stores to disk
web interface for management and voice mail listening
programable VRU (java prefered or at least script not C)
for use with a small office
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Re: Update cd image for Woody?

2003-07-04 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 16:48:03 +0100 (CET)
Peter Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> Is there any cd image available with all the updates made since the
> initial release (security stuff mainly)? I have made Woody cds, and I
> want to update a non-broadband machine with the security updates
> without hogging a modem for several hours (expensive!)

CD #1 of Woody 3.0r1 is available here (among other places):

ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian-iso/

I haven't tried this, but I wonder if it would be possible to rsync that
against a local copy of Woody 3.0, and avoid downloading the whole CD.

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Re: hda died, moved hdb... SOLVED

2003-07-04 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:45:30 -0400
Antonio Rodr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks to all of you. Finally got it. Small how to for future reference.
> Steps:
> 1. Boot with the installation CD (any should work, I used #1).
> 2. Press F3 for information about possibilities (may be skipped?)
> 3. type rescue root=/dev/hda1
> 4. type in password for root, remount to write as indicated.
> 5. Change /etc/fstab to reflect hda instead of hdb.
> 6. Run update-grub.
> 7. Edit /boot/grub/menu.1st as needed.
> 8. Reboot.
> 9. Enjoy.
> 10. Contribute to the community.

Insert step 5a. Run grub-install /dev/hda.

I'm not sure why you didn't need to do this. When I changed hard drives the
system wouldn't boot until I did.

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Re: Bootable Rescue CD-ROM

2003-07-04 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:29, Sebastian Kapfer wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 15:40:18 +0200, Kent West wrote:
> 
> > I use Knoppix (http://www.knoppix.org).
> 
> As I wrote in my original email, Knoppix seems to fight with a chrooted
> lilo. Don't know why though...
> 
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While Kent doesn't fall into this group, there are some on the list that
seem to reply "Boot Knoppix" as the response to anything. While Knoppix
has a role as a demonstrator, tester, and tool to use on systems with
serious operational impairment (aka Windows,) it isn't *exactly* the
universal solution some automatically judge it to be.
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Re: Automount

2003-07-04 Thread JZidar
Thanks for the link. Since I am a newbie, could you please explain how do I
apply a patch to the kernel? I'm very familiary with kernel compiling.

Thanks again.

Zee
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Subject: Re: Automount


> On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 00:52, Mark Ferlatte wrote:
>
> > I think you want supermount:
> >
> > http://supermount-ng.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > It's not integrated into Debian, AFAIK.
>
> Con Kolivas' patch set for 2.4.21 includes it
> http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ . I recommend the patch
> set generally for its numerous performance patches. No other action than
> enabling it in the kernel conf and changing fstab was needed
>
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Re: Bootable Rescue CD-ROM

2003-07-04 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 14:50:08 +0200, Shyamal Prasad wrote:

> LNX-BBC, http://www.lnx-bbc.org/

Thank you! Just being downloaded...

> PS: If you send the FSF $120 to join up as an associate member they send
> you a very useful little business card.

That's a little bit beyond my current budget, but I'll keep it in mind :-)

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Re: Bootable Rescue CD-ROM

2003-07-04 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 15:40:18 +0200, Kent West wrote:

> I use Knoppix (http://www.knoppix.org).

As I wrote in my original email, Knoppix seems to fight with a chrooted
lilo. Don't know why though...

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USB works partially

2003-07-04 Thread Joan Tur
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Hallo!

USB support is working because I'm using both a ps2 and a usb mouse (HP 
Omnibook XT1000 laptop), but:

- -running (as root) usbview it says it cannot access /proc/bus/usb/devices
- -running "gphoto2 --auto-detect" doesn't find the camera.  "gphoto2 
- --list-ports" shows the usb port either.

Any idea??  8-?

Here's lsmod's output:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/quini/Baixat/flphoto-1.0# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
appletalk  22372   1  (autoclean)
ipx18340   1  (autoclean)
ide-cd 32352   0  (autoclean)
cdrom  28736   0  (autoclean) [ide-cd]
omnibook   27016   0  (unused)
nls_iso8859-15  3356   1  (autoclean)
vfat   10860   1  (autoclean)
fat32024   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
autofs4 9876   0  (unused)
af_packet  13672   0  (unused)
nls_iso8859-1   2844   0  (unused)
nls_cp437   4348   1
via82cxxx_audio21980   2
uart401 6820   0  [via82cxxx_audio]
ac97_codec 11860   0  [via82cxxx_audio]
sound  59400   0  [via82cxxx_audio uart401]
soundcore   3844   4  [via82cxxx_audio sound]
8139too15048   1
mii 2496   0  [8139too]
hid19428   0  (unused)
mousedev4340   1
input   3488   0  [hid mousedev]
usb-uhci   23696   0  (unused)
usbcore63308   0  [hid usb-uhci]
ds  7028   1
yenta_socket   10624   1
pcmcia_core41312   0  [ds yenta_socket]
rtc 6792   0
- --

Thanks!!  ;)
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Re: new debian box reboots itself?

2003-07-04 Thread Joey Hess
i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>   but lastlog doesn't show anything about 'reboot', 'down' or
> 'crash'. it only shows ports & such.

Sorry, I tend to forget that there's an actual lastlog program. I was
referring to the last program which should show that information.

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Re: hda died, moved hdb to hda-->> kernel went crazy. Help

2003-07-04 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi,

Antonio RodrP wrote:

> Well, I used grub from a boot floppy, and there I never put menu.1st. I used to 
> enter it by hand. Back then I would put
> root (hd1,0)
> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18
> boot

Try 
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18 root=/dev/hda1
boot

Also, change every hdb to hda in /etc/fstab as others have mentioned.

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Re: hda died, moved hdb... SOLVED

2003-07-04 Thread Antonio Rodr
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 10:55:02 -0500
Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:49, Antonio Rodr wrote:
> > On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:39:28 -0400
> > Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:54, Antonio Rodr008 wrote:
> > > > Hi all, I had in my other computer a dual booting, win98 in hda,
> > > > testing in hdb. Then hda died, so I removed it, and put hdb as
> > > > hda. So now the kernel goes into panick, somewhere it has
> > > > written hdb, but hdb doesn't exist anymore. I have got in using
> > > > the rescue CD woody cd 1, booting with rescue root=/dev/hda1 but
> > > > I don't know what changes must be made. Can some point to the
> > > > needed changes? I would like to avoid a whole new installation.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > You need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to indicate the change.
> > > Then you need to run lilo to update your system.
> > 
> > I never used lilo, I use grub. I cheked and I don't have
> > /etc/lilo.conf
> > 
> 
> Then run update-grub
> 
Thanks to all of you. Finally got it. Small how to for future reference.
Steps:
1. Boot with the installation CD (any should work, I used #1).
2. Press F3 for information about possibilities (may be skipped?)
3. type rescue root=/dev/hda1
4. type in password for root, remount to write as indicated.
5. Change /etc/fstab to reflect hda instead of hdb.
6. Run update-grub.
7. Edit /boot/grub/menu.1st as needed.
8. Reboot.
9. Enjoy.
10. Contribute to the community.


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Re: Very big files with tar

2003-07-04 Thread Todd Pytel
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:50:52 +0200
Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd like to do a backup to another partition using tar. Here are about
> 9GB data to be saved. After a while tar complaints about a to big
> output file (i think max size is around 2GB). Is there a way to split
> the output in more files?

Odd.  I know I've created larger files with tar - I backed up about 5GB
compressed last week.  That was on OpenBSD, but usually the GNU tools
are more powerful than the BSD ones.  Are you sure you've got disk space
for the operation? Also, does the filesystem you're putting the tarball
on support large files?  FAT32, for example, only supports a max file
size of 2GB.

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Re: HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-04 Thread Todd Pytel
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:10:37 -0600
"John W. M. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:13:24PM -0500, Todd Pytel wrote:
> > I backed up my sources.list,
> 
> OK . . .
> 
> > changed it to unstable,
> 
> "It"?  Did you mean the APT::Default-Release value?

I guess so - I don't know the proper Debian terminology.  I switched
"testing" for "unstable"

> > did an apt-get update, apt-get install gnome-core,
> 
> OK.
> 
> > and then restored the old sources.list.
> 
> There isn't a command line option for specifying this?  I thought that
> was what -t, --target-release and --default-release were for?

Perhaps.  I didn't say that this was the only way to do it.  

> > Works fine.  Nautilus 2 is worlds faster than the
> > original, fonts are nice, everything is anti-aliased, blah, blah,
> > blah...
> 
> OK.
> 
> > If you're absolutely opposed to any unstable packages, then I
> > guess you're screwed.  That's what you get for running testing.
> 
> What, are you saying that I'm less likely to get screwed by running
> experimental, than testing?
> 
> I didn't know that.  Why?

No, what I'm saying is that if you run testing, you can't always expect
that packages will play well together.  It's an automated distribution,
so you get strange results when one package is held up by a dependency
or unstable has switched to a new major version.  In this case, that
means either 1) putting a hold on the GNOME packages until all of them
are in testing, or 2) getting the other core GNOME 2 packages from
unstable.  If you just moved to testing in the last 2 weeks, then it's
probably too late for #1, since some 1.4 packages are already out of
your package lists. That leaves #2. That's life in Testing. GNOME 2 may
be the first time you've hit odd release problems like this, but it will
probably not be your last.

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Re: new debian box reboots itself?

2003-07-04 Thread i'll teach you to turn away .
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
JH> i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>   ok, color me confused. my new machine (which is not primary yet)
> rebooted by itself tuesday morning around 3:50am. it was a software
JH> Was it a clean or an unclean reboot? If you have "reboot" in the lastlog,
JH> it was a clean reboot. That might be caused by something like watchdog,
JH> or something else that got it into its head to reboot the machine.

well, i'm figuring it was clean because the machine came back up
on its own. my experience says that a box that went down for hardware or
EVIL software issues is not going to come back up to login by itself.

but lastlog doesn't show anything about 'reboot', 'down' or
'crash'. it only shows ports & such. unless you're not talking about a
literal lastlog, in which case dmesg doesn't tell me ANYTHING except that
it came back up & went through its normal rigmarole.

JH> If it was an unclean reboot, you're left with the possibilties that
JH> either the kernel decided to reboot the system, or it just spontaneously
JH> reset itself due to a hardware issue. These will show up in the lastlog
JH> as "down", "crash" and the like.

thanks for the response. any further suggestions? i'm happy to
dump any sort of log or information into this fine, fine newsgroup.

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Re: xterm configuration

2003-07-04 Thread Paladin
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:43:44 -0700
Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  For xterm, use one of the fixed fonts.  They all have the
>  line-drawing characters.  If you're running xterm AA'd, you're
>  SOL unless you're up to building it yourself.  You have to have
>  at least patchlevel 175 of xterm to support line-drawing with
>  AA'd fonts.  Not that xterm is hard to build outside of XFree
>  itself
> 
>  For Eterm, using the same fixed font would suffice.  I have no
>  idea at all if Eterm supports AA's fonts or what it does to
>  simulate line-drawing with them if it does.

Errr... how do I check the Anti-Aliased fonts part? I never got the
hang of fonts in X. :/

thx

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Re: hda died, moved hdb to hda-->> kernel went crazy. Help

2003-07-04 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Antonio Rodr008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030704 16:54]:

> Can some point to the needed changes? I would like to avoid a whole
> new installation.

Boot with the rescue disk, and edit /etc/lilo.conf and /etc/ftab
replacing every hdb with hda.

Run /sbin/lilo after that, and everything should be okay again (unless
you are using grub and not lilo as boot loader, don't know where grub
keeps his configuration).


Yours sincerely
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Update cd image for Woody?

2003-07-04 Thread Peter Karlsson
Hello!

Is there any cd image available with all the updates made since the
initial release (security stuff mainly)? I have made Woody cds, and I
want to update a non-broadband machine with the security updates
without hogging a modem for several hours (expensive!)

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Re: hda died, moved hdb to hda-->> kernel went crazy. Help

2003-07-04 Thread Antonio RodrP
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:53:16 -0400
Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 11:49, Antonio Rodr wrote:
> > On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:39:28 -0400
> > Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:54, Antonio Rodr008 wrote:
> > > > Hi all, I had in my other computer a dual booting, win98 in hda,
> > > > testing in hdb. Then hda died, so I removed it, and put hdb as
> > > > hda. So now the kernel goes into panick, somewhere it has
> > > > written hdb, but hdb doesn't exist anymore. I have got in using
> > > > the rescue CD woody cd 1, booting with rescue root=/dev/hda1 but
> > > > I don't know what changes must be made. Can some point to the
> > > > needed changes? I would like to avoid a whole new installation.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > You need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to indicate the change.
> > > Then you need to run lilo to update your system.
> > 
> > I never used lilo, I use grub. I cheked and I don't have
> > /etc/lilo.conf
> 
> Cool then it's pretty easy. You edit the file menu.lst so that the
> entry matches with what you want.
> 
> I think the file is somewhere in /boot/grub/
> 
> Not that grub has a whole different way of dealing with disk names so
> hda1 becomes something like (hd0,1).

Well, I used grub from a boot floppy, and there I never put menu.1st. I used to enter 
it by hand. Back then I would put
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18
boot

Now, after the switch, I entered root(hd0,0) followed by the same sequence. The kernel 
of course was found, the problem arised at some point after that. It seems to me that 
somewhere it was expecting to see hdb, and went into panick.
So, the change to be made must be somehere in some system file where the devices 
functions or so are recorded.


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Re: hda died, moved hdb to hda-->> kernel went crazy. Help

2003-07-04 Thread Dale Hair
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:49, Antonio Rodr wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:39:28 -0400
> Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:54, Antonio Rodr008 wrote:
> > > Hi all, I had in my other computer a dual booting, win98 in hda,
> > > testing in hdb. Then hda died, so I removed it, and put hdb as hda.
> > > So now the kernel goes into panick, somewhere it has written hdb,
> > > but hdb doesn't exist anymore. I have got in using the rescue CD
> > > woody cd 1, booting with rescue root=/dev/hda1 but I don't know what
> > > changes must be made. Can some point to the needed changes? I would
> > > like to avoid a whole new installation. Thanks.
> > 
> > You need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to indicate the change.
> > Then you need to run lilo to update your system.
> 
> I never used lilo, I use grub. I cheked and I don't have /etc/lilo.conf
> 

Then run update-grub


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Re: hda died, moved hdb to hda-->> kernel went crazy. Help

2003-07-04 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 11:49, Antonio Rodr wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:39:28 -0400
> Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:54, Antonio Rodr008 wrote:
> > > Hi all, I had in my other computer a dual booting, win98 in hda,
> > > testing in hdb. Then hda died, so I removed it, and put hdb as hda.
> > > So now the kernel goes into panick, somewhere it has written hdb,
> > > but hdb doesn't exist anymore. I have got in using the rescue CD
> > > woody cd 1, booting with rescue root=/dev/hda1 but I don't know what
> > > changes must be made. Can some point to the needed changes? I would
> > > like to avoid a whole new installation. Thanks.
> > 
> > You need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to indicate the change.
> > Then you need to run lilo to update your system.
> 
> I never used lilo, I use grub. I cheked and I don't have /etc/lilo.conf

Cool then it's pretty easy. You edit the file menu.lst so that the entry
matches with what you want.

I think the file is somewhere in /boot/grub/

Not that grub has a whole different way of dealing with disk names so
hda1 becomes something like (hd0,1).

Bijan



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Re: finding an iso for net-install w/ reiserfs disk support

2003-07-04 Thread Dale Hair
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 22:48, Justin Bauer wrote:
> I'm setting up a new computer, and thought it would be nice to use a minimal
> cd rather than the normal disks.  I'll be running sid, but I don't care
> whether the cd is for stable or testing, just as long as it will
> format/install onto reiserfs.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Justin

http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies/bootbf2.4.iso


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Re: hda died, moved hdb to hda-->> kernel went crazy. Help

2003-07-04 Thread Dale Hair
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:39, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:54, Antonio Rodr008 wrote:
> > Hi all, I had in my other computer a dual booting, win98 in hda, testing in hdb. 
> > Then hda died, 
> > so I removed it, and put hdb as hda. So now the kernel goes into panick, somewhere 
> > it has
> >  written hdb, but hdb doesn't exist anymore. I have got in using the rescue CD 
> > woody cd 1, 
> > booting with rescue root=/dev/hda1 but I don't know what changes must be made. Can 
> > some 
> > point to the needed changes? I would like to avoid a whole new installation.
> > Thanks.
> 
> You need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to indicate the change.
> Then you need to run lilo to update your system.
> 
> Bijan
> 

You will also need to edit /etc/fstab


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Re: APT Serious Bug

2003-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 05:10:50PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> On Friday 04 July 2003 16:47, Guilherme Viebig wrote:
> > I´m using Debian 3.0  kernel 2.4.19bf24
> >
> > When I try to update my system with apt
> >
> > I get this error message
> >
> > E: Internal error. could not immediate configuration (2) on libpam-modules
> >
> > Now my apt is bugged.
> >
> > Any hints ?
> >
> LOL. I postet a similar error 5mins erlier:
> APT error

$ cd /var/cache/apt/archives/
$ dpkg -i libpam0g_0.76-12* libpam-modules_0.76-12*

All done.  This has come up dozens of times on the list, though, why
didn't you guys search the archives?

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Re: hda died, moved hdb to hda-->> kernel went crazy. Help

2003-07-04 Thread Antonio Rodr
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:39:28 -0400
Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:54, Antonio Rodr008 wrote:
> > Hi all, I had in my other computer a dual booting, win98 in hda,
> > testing in hdb. Then hda died, so I removed it, and put hdb as hda.
> > So now the kernel goes into panick, somewhere it has written hdb,
> > but hdb doesn't exist anymore. I have got in using the rescue CD
> > woody cd 1, booting with rescue root=/dev/hda1 but I don't know what
> > changes must be made. Can some point to the needed changes? I would
> > like to avoid a whole new installation. Thanks.
> 
> You need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to indicate the change.
> Then you need to run lilo to update your system.

I never used lilo, I use grub. I cheked and I don't have /etc/lilo.conf


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Re: hda died, moved hdb to hda-->> kernel went crazy. Help

2003-07-04 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:54, Antonio Rodr008 wrote:
> Hi all, I had in my other computer a dual booting, win98 in hda, testing in hdb. 
> Then hda died, 
> so I removed it, and put hdb as hda. So now the kernel goes into panick, somewhere 
> it has
>  written hdb, but hdb doesn't exist anymore. I have got in using the rescue CD woody 
> cd 1, 
> booting with rescue root=/dev/hda1 but I don't know what changes must be made. Can 
> some 
> point to the needed changes? I would like to avoid a whole new installation.
> Thanks.

You need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to indicate the change.
Then you need to run lilo to update your system.

Bijan


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Re: Debian and S3 ProsavageDDR KM 266

2003-07-04 Thread bob parker
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:06, Jacob Anawalt wrote:
> A month ago I had debian stable (woody) installed on my XPC which has
> the ProSavageDDR (savage8) onboard with the via chipset. I used apt
> pinning to get the unstable XFree86 4.2 (seems like that's in testing
> now) package xserver-xfree86. I combined that with the savage driver
> debian package by Tim Roberts (http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html)
> and I was a pretty happy 2d X windows user.
>
>
> Since then I've reinstalled from scratch to testing (Sarge) and am
> borrowing an ATI Radeon... Best of luck.
>
> Jacob Anawalt
>

The default XFree 4.1 in Woody seems to have a broken vesa driver.
You already discovered that the vesa driver is OK in version 4.2

You can also apt-get install xserver-s3 from the Woody sources, I have had 
some luck with that on old s3 trio cards. Or install xserver-s3v if need be 
for s3 virge chipsets.

HTH
Bob Parker


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Newbie to spamassassin- How to make it learn?

2003-07-04 Thread SRIKANTH NS
Hi
Disgusted with the amount of spam received, I installed
Spamassassin2.54 and configured it, It works properly for the past one
month. I use fetchmail to receive mail and invoke sylpheed to read
them from /var/spool/ mail/ srikanth folder and the spam goes to
"caughtspam " file in my home directory .

Nowadays I see one or two mails slipping past spamassassin. I saw that
spamassassin can be trained. man pages did not reveal much. Since the
mails are read in sylpheed how to point it out to SA?
sa-learn command also does not work, it says command is not found.
Can any body give some pointers or some links where tutroials can be
read.?
Thanks in advance

N S Srikanth


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Radeon 9000 Pro and Framebuffer

2003-07-04 Thread Jan Tammen
Bonjour.

Trying to set up the framebuffer with my Radeon 9000 Pro on a 2.5.69
Kernel (Debian sid). But it seems the framebuffer can not be
initialized, as the resolution does not change.

Kernel-config:

#
# Graphics support
#
CONFIG_FB=y
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
CONFIG_FB_RADEON=y

#
# Console display driver support
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_PCI_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_FONTS=y
CONFIG_FONT_8x8=y
CONFIG_FONT_8x16=y

In my lilo.conf I got:

append="video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Also tried "radeon" instead of "radeonfb" and different resolutions.

The (hopefully) most important parts from dmesg:

Linux version 2.5.69 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.1 20030626 (Debian 
prerelease)) #1 Fri Jul 4 18:14:59 CEST 2003
Video mode to be used for restore is f00
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 000a (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 3fff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 3fff - 3fff3000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 3fff3000 - 4000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820:  - 0001 (reserved)
127MB HIGHMEM available.
896MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 262128
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
  Normal zone: 225280 pages, LIFO batch:16
  HighMem zone: 32752 pages, LIFO batch:7
Building zonelist for node : 0
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Debian ro root=302 video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
Applying VIA southbridge workaround.
radeonfb_pci_register BEGIN
radeonfb: ref_clk=2700, ref_div=12, xclk=2 from BIOS
radeonfb: probed DDR SGRAM 131072k videoram
radeon_get_moninfo: bios 4 scratch = 202
radeonfb: cannot map FB
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected VIA Apollo Pro KT133/KM133/TwisterK chipset
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 941M
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe000
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.8.0 20020828 on minor 0

$lspci -vs 1:0.0
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 If [Radeon 9000] 
(rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: PC Partner Limited R250 If [Radeon 9000 "Atlantis"]
Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
I/O ports at c000 [size=256]
Memory at e500 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

Any hints? Merci.


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Re: APT Serious Bug

2003-07-04 Thread Raffaele Sandrini
On Friday 04 July 2003 16:47, Guilherme Viebig wrote:
> I´m using Debian 3.0  kernel 2.4.19bf24
>
> When I try to update my system with apt
>
> I get this error message
>
> E: Internal error. could not immediate configuration (2) on libpam-modules
>
> Now my apt is bugged.
>
> Any hints ?
>
LOL. I postet a similar error 5mins erlier:
APT error

cheers,
Raffaele

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Re: Bootable Rescue CD-ROM

2003-07-04 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003, Sebastian Kapfer wrote:

>Any comments? What do you use?

I've been looking at Timo's Rescue CD, http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net/
The author himself say that it has involved to a "debian on cd"-system, so
it may be what you're looking for. 


BTW, I've been thinking about putting this rescue system on an old spare
harddrive I have in my box (but that is not currently connected by IDE
cable). 

Anybody have any hints on how to do that?

Cheers,

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hda died, moved hdb to hda-->> kernel went crazy. Help

2003-07-04 Thread Antonio Rodr008
Hi all, I had in my other computer a dual booting, win98 in hda, testing in hdb. Then 
hda died, so I removed it, and put hdb as hda. So now the kernel goes into panick, 
somewhere it has written hdb, but hdb doesn't exist anymore. I have got in using the 
rescue CD woody cd 1, booting with rescue root=/dev/hda1 but I don't know what changes 
must be made.
Can some point to the needed changes? I would like to avoid a whole new installation.
Thanks.


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APT Serious Bug

2003-07-04 Thread Guilherme Viebig
I´m using Debian 3.0  kernel 2.4.19bf24

When I try to update my system with apt

I get this error message

E: Internal error. could not immediate configuration (2) on libpam-modules

Now my apt is bugged.

Any hints ?

Thanks

Guilherme B. Viebig


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Re: Logrotate postscript not able to find just-compressed log

2003-07-04 Thread Ian Stevens
> If this is the case, will I have to compress the just-rotated
> logfile in the postrotate script if I want to copy a compressed file?

The answer is probably "yes".  The following rule works on an
uncompressed file:

/var/log/phantom/phantom.log {
daily
missingok
rotate 52
copytruncate
compress
nodelaycompress
create 644 tomcat4 nogroup
postrotate
if [ -e /var/log/phantom/phantom.log.1 ] ; then 
scp -Bq -i /home/phantom/.ssh/id_rsa
/var/log/phantom/phantom.log.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:log/phantom-`date
+"%Y-%m-%d"`.log
fi
endscript
}

The uncompressed file does not appear after logrotate executes, leading
me to believe that logrotate takes the following steps:

1. prerotate
2. rotate
3. postrotate
4. compress

ian.



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RE: Very big files with tar

2003-07-04 Thread Stephen Mayes
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The responses given so far sound like they would work perfectly fine however
have you considered the possibility that it is not tar that is the limiting
factor but the base OS. 2Gb is roughly the file size limit of 'standard'
linux. You need to add Large File Support (LFS) for files bigger  than that.
We've been using G4U, a disc imaging application for doing bare metal
recovery of boxes and some (always Windoze bloatware) have bzipped images
greater than 2Gb. To overcome this limitation we had to add LFS.

Steve

-Original Message-
From:   Raffaele Sandrini [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   04 July 2003 13:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Very big files with tar

On Friday 04 July 2003 13:14, Joerg Johannes wrote:
> On Friday 04 July 2003 12:50, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I'd like to do a backup to another partition using tar. Here are
> > about 9GB data to be saved. After a while tar complaints about a
to
> > big output file (i think max size is around 2GB). Is there a way
to
> > split the output in more files?
>
> tar cf - /path/to/data | split -b 1024m - outfile
>
> This will create 1GB big files called outfileaa, outfileab,
outfileac,
> etc.
>
> To restore, you will have to do the following:
> cat outfile* | tar xf -
>
> Anyway, this is most likely not the way you want to make backups.
Search
> around a bit in the archives, backup strategies are discussed
fairly
> often. Maybe Karsten M. Self drops in and provides you a link to
his
> backup strategy page...
>
I know :) Its only just a small thing wich i will delete soon. Ill
try 
something with my system today and whant a copy fast and ready.

Thanks for ur help.

cheers,
Raffaele

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Re: OT: Limit on maximum # of threads in Linux?

2003-07-04 Thread Yann Droneaud
holger rauch wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I tried the following test program with various 2.4.x und 2.2.x kernels and
> noticed that it doesn't *seem* to be possible to create more than 1021
> threads. I changed "ulimit -u" from within bash before running the thread
> test program, I modified a setting in the /proc filesystem:
> 
> /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max
> 
> (but that limit is 12287 with a 2.4.21 kernel, so it should be high enough
> anyway),
> 
> but all I got was:
> 
> [...]
> Thread #1019: Thread started...thread done
> Thread #1020: Thread started...thread done
> Thread #1021: Thread started...thread done
> Thread #1022: *** Unable to create thread #1021 ***
> 

My answer is out of topic too:

The current LinuxThreads doesn't handle more than (about) 1023 attached 
threads running. (There always a control thread)

Use pthread_detach(), but you won't be able to pthread_join() them after.

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Re: HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-04 Thread John W. M. Stevens
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 08:52:50PM -0600, Jacob Anawalt wrote:
> John,
> 
> I installed straight to testing (but using a stable netinstall CD) a 
> couple months ago. When gnome2 into was released into it from unstable a 
> couple weeks ago I ran into similar issues. I am looking forward to 
> watching this thread to see what the expert insight to this is. My 
> opinion is that Gnome2 'works' but it doesn't 'work right'. Isn't that 
> what testing is for though?

That is what I thought, too, but Mr. Pytel indicates that testing is
less stable than unstable . . . why, he didn't say, only that "that
is what you get for running testing".

> To test for bugs that aren't critical and 
> prepare for the next stable version that does 'work right'. There are 
> gnome2 version packages that are still in held up in unstable that I 
> think maybe should have held up the whole gnome2 upgrade, but I don't 
> know that much about the details to make this statment as anything more 
> than a personal opinion.

It does seem as if a mistake has been made here, by putting a partial
set into testing.  It doesn't seem likely that testing can be done
properly with only a partial set.

> Here is a link about ideas for moving debian to gnome2, but I didn't get 
> a good feeling of resolution:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no&bug=154950

Thank you.  I'll read through this.

> I also get the error message from the gnome settings daemon. I think 
> it's due to nautilus being gnome and not the gnome2 version. The gnome2 
> version of nautilus seems to be held back in unstable with some 
> automated build errors.

Ah!  That answers that question.  Thank you.

> I also have some interestingly scaled and rendered fonts in some 
> applications. On this page 
> (http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/testing/2003/05/msg00058.html) 
> there is mention of the local affecting fonts. I should check my local. 
> I dont remember which I chose, other than knowing it wasn't 'C'.

This has been a very useful reply.  Thank you!  My locale is indeed C.

I'll read through the information at this link, as well.

Thanks,
John S.


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Re: Dual head text console / X HOWTO sought

2003-07-04 Thread Yann Droneaud
pigeon wrote:

> I have two graphics cards, a SiS 6326 PCI card and a Radeon 7500 AGP
> card. Having just acquired a second monitor, I am keen to set up a
> dual head system capable of the following configurations:
> 
> 1) Dual head text console. A keystroke combination switches the focus
> of the keyboard from one monitor to the other; the usual Alt-F then
> switches between VTs on that monitor.
>

This is not possible, kernel doesn't handle that, but i could be wrong.

Enable framebuffer for the two card, and you will get 2 framebuffers
devices, but only the first one will be used (fb0). Then, you have to
map one VT to a framebuffer with the tool con2fb (i don't remember
well), or you can use my fancy getty: fbgetty. You have to replace call 
to getty in /etc/inittab by fbgetty  .

So you will get a mix of the behaviors you describe.
ALT-Fn will switch the focus and VT on all monitors. This can lead to 
really complex configuration.
Cool configuration is using fb0 with tty1 to 12, and fb1 with tty13 to 
24, so you select focus on your first screen with ALT-Fn and your second
screen with ALT Gr-Fn.


> 2) Dual head, text console and X. The PCI card is used for the text
> console and the AGP card for X. The usual [Ctrl-]Alt-F switches
> focus between text VTs and X.
> 
> Google has not been very useful; it has a tendency to find:
> 
> - Framebuffer dual head HOWTOs. I'm talking about real text modes, not
>   framebuffer. One purpose of this setup is to experiment with
>   programming the AGP card in text mode, using the PCI card at 100x36
>   to provide the VTs from which to write/run the experimental code.
> - Stuff about single video cards with dual head outputs, mostly Matrox
>   G400/450s. This is not the setup I've got!
> - Xinerama HOWTOs and other X-only dual head things. This is a lesser
>   priority.
>   
> If anyone can point me to a good HOWTO on this sort of thing, I would
> be most grateful.
> 
> Thanks,
> 

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Re: HowTo for Gnome2??

2003-07-04 Thread John W. M. Stevens
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:13:24PM -0500, Todd Pytel wrote:
> I backed up my sources.list,

OK . . .

> changed it to unstable,

"It"?  Did you mean the APT::Default-Release value?

> did an apt-get update, apt-get install gnome-core,

OK.

> and then restored the old sources.list.

There isn't a command line option for specifying this?  I thought that
was what -t, --target-release and --default-release were for?

> Works fine.  Nautilus 2 is worlds faster than the
> original, fonts are nice, everything is anti-aliased, blah, blah,
> blah...

OK.

> If you're absolutely opposed to any unstable packages, then I
> guess you're screwed.  That's what you get for running testing.

What, are you saying that I'm less likely to get screwed by running
experimental, than testing?

I didn't know that.  Why?

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Re: Bootable Rescue CD-ROM

2003-07-04 Thread Raffaele Sandrini
On Friday 04 July 2003 13:36, Sebastian Kapfer wrote:
> I'm looking for a bootable rescue CD-ROM with some Linux-based OS on it
> (preferrably Debian). It should include utilities like fdisk and mkfs,
> parted, grub, bash (please, no ash!), vim, ssh and a reasonable ftp (what
> about ncftp) client. lynx, X are nice, but not a requirement. It should be
> capable of mounting common filesystems like ext2, xfs, vfat.
>
> I've looked into Knoppix, which is a little overweighted (KDE3) and
> somehow failed to get along with a chrooted lilo the last time I used it
> (rendering the disc essentially useless for my purpose). Maybe a
> customized Knoppix CD-ROM would do the trick.
>
> Any comments? What do you use?
>
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You can check out the Superrescue from the Kernel distri mirrors 
(ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/dist/superrescue/v2)

Its RedHat based... but pretty useful.

cheers,
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Re: sources.list question

2003-07-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 06:04:45AM -0700, Wm. G. McGrath wrote:
> I'm setting up my sources.list file again looking for faster, closer
> mirrors. I've used netselect to find the best urls for my location
> and setup, and have put together a comparitively small list of
> mirrors on which to base the file. Ok so I've done that.
> 
> Now I'd like to test each line in the file and know that it works.
> Is there a simple way to do that? Is there a 'debug' mode, or
> equivilent, for apt or sources.list? I want to confirm that I've got
> the path for each url right, that the distributions and components
> are correct too.

Can't you just do 'apt-get update' (or, better, 'dselect update')? If
the appropriate index files can't be fetched then apt-get will complain.

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APT error

2003-07-04 Thread Raffaele Sandrini
Hi

i tried to upgrade my system with
# apt-get dist-upgrade

after it downloaded all files i got this error:
E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libpam0g

What does that mean?

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Raffaele

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Re: Bootable Rescue CD-ROM

2003-07-04 Thread Kent West


  "Sebastian" == Sebastian Kapfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

   Sebastian> I'm looking for a bootable rescue CD-ROM with some
   Sebastian> Linux-based OS on it (preferrably Debian). It should
   Sebastian> include utilities like fdisk and mkfs, parted, grub,
   Sebastian> bash (please, no ash!), vim, ssh and a reasonable ftp
   Sebastian> (what about ncftp) client. lynx, X are nice, but not a
   Sebastian> requirement. It should be capable of mounting common
   Sebastian> filesystems like ext2, xfs, vfat.
 

I use Knoppix (http://www.knoppix.org).

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Joseph P Shanley is out of the office.

2003-07-04 Thread jpshanle
I will be out of the office starting  07/04/2003 and will not return until
07/14/2003.

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sources.list question

2003-07-04 Thread Wm . G . McGrath

Howdy all,

I'm setting up my sources.list file again looking for faster, closer
mirrors. I've used netselect to find the best urls for my location
and setup, and have put together a comparitively small list of
mirrors on which to base the file. Ok so I've done that.

Now I'd like to test each line in the file and know that it works.
Is there a simple way to do that? Is there a 'debug' mode, or
equivilent, for apt or sources.list? I want to confirm that I've got
the path for each url right, that the distributions and components
are correct too.

BTW if you're looking for a way to figure out what the best mirrors
are from YOUR location, netselect is a really great tool.

tia,
bill


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Re: Need a quick one-liner

2003-07-04 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Seneca  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:51:34PM +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote:
>> I have some data files in the following format:
>> 
>> 12   3   4
>> 56   7   8
>> 910  11  12
>> 13   14  15  16
>> ...
>> 
>> I need to sum up the second column, so the result is 32 (in this case).
>> Any ideas?
>
>awk '{ sum += $2 ; print sum }' foo | tail -1

Isn't that

awk '{ sum += $2; } END { print sum }' foo

? Awk rocks ;)

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Re: Need a quick one-liner

2003-07-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:51:34PM +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote:
> Hi everybody
> 
> I have some data files in the following format:
> 
> 1 2   3   4
> 5 6   7   8
> 9 10  11  12
> 1314  15  16
> ...
> 
> I need to sum up the second column, so the result is 32 (in this case).
> Any ideas?

  awk '{ x += $2 } END { print x }' < file

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