Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Katipo]

Bruce Miller wrote:

 Joey Hess was on the mark to criticize members of this list for
 rising to flamebait.
This far exceeds flamebait. It is a serious issue.
I, myself, feel that we should have all been advised of this.
By using Debian, we endorse it, and everything it represents.
To be placed in the position of taking a political stance,
without prior knowledge and consultation is odious.
 International technical fora are adamant that they discuss only
 technical issues and leave politics to the politicians.
Exactly right.
Get the politicians out of Debian.
To help this
 international technical forum --- a mailing list about an operating
 system --- to do the same, let us remember what the politicians of
 the national government of most of the participants in this debate
 have done on this issue:
 The International Standards Organizations operates by consensus. The
 flip-side of consensus is that everyone has a veto. The ISO standard
 would not have happened without the 100% agreement of the United
 States Government.
What the hell has this to do with the U.S. govt?
 The United Nations' usage is one which the United States Government
 agreed to of its own free will over 30 years ago and from which no
 subsequent Administration, neither Republican nor Democratic, has
 wavered since.
If the U.N. had any balls at all, it would have stepped between the U.S.,
Britain, and Iraq before it even started.
What has any of this got to do with Debian?
 Far be it from any of us outside the USA to criticize the right of
 Americans to criticize their government's policy, or for any other
 nationality to criticize its government's policy, but an
 international technical forum is not the place to do it.
Please stay on topic.
This thread concerns Debian involvement in the political arena,
and not blind adherence to some corporate/political manipulation
of an international standard.
 It is perfectly reasonable of Debian to adopt an international
 standard.
As long as the standard is reasonable.

It raises Debian above the debate which is taking place
 here.
Not anymore.
It's down in the mud, and it's looking dirty.
What exactly is going on here?
Is this pandering to a factor that represents over a quarter of the 
worlds' population,
and what the inclusion of that factor could contribute to an open source 
project?
And the devil takes Taiwan?

Regards,

David.



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Re: Can't use GUI as root

[Toshiro]

> > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I try
> > to startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manager. I
> > don't have any problem using a normal user.
> >
> > Anybody know what's the problem?
>
> Problem exists between keyboard and chair.  Don't log in as root.  Log
> in as a normal user, and use su -m to run things as root.  Then you're
> not running *nearly* as much while running as root, less potential to
> screw things up.

Please notice that I'm not asking whether or not logging in as root is a good 
thing, I am asking if anybody knows why my system behaves like that; if you 
don't know the answer, fine, but please don't preach to me.

Toshiro.

PS: I don't like the tone of your message, next time think twice before 
posting  phrases like "Problem exists between keyboard and chair", you won't 
make many friends with this kind of attitude.


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RE: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Matthew Joyce]

> -Original Message-
> From: dircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, 5 April 2004 1:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?
> 
> 
> Bruce Miller wrote:
> > It is perfectly reasonable of Debian to adopt an international 
> > standard.
> > It raises Debian above the debate which is taking place here.
> 
> I protest. It is not perfectly reasonable. This is not a 
> political issue 
> for me. I have no established opinion as to whether or not Taiwan is 
> properly a "Province of China."
> 
> Debian does not obtain neutrality by selecting an existing political 
> compromise and simply saying, "That's it, we don't want to get 
> involved." Simply saying something does not make it so. As I 
> explained 
> at length, "Province of China" serves no legitimate purpose in the 
> selection of a locale. Its sole purpose is to convey a political 
> statement (a relation of political authority of a part to a whole) 
> beyond this single purpose, a statement which is highly 
> controversial. 
> Debian can not hide behind "it is a standard". As I have thoroughly 
> explained previously, selecting "Taiwan, Province of China" 
> is a choice 
> (a selection made without necessity), and is not a choice 
> warranted by 
> any practical consideration.
> 
> The "perfectly reasonable" option is to remove the political 
> commentary, 
> "Province of China" and to stop hiding behind "it is a standard," an 
> appeal to authority, as if that could legitimize the inclusion of an 
> assertion of a political relation, where there ought not to be one.
> 
> Even now, selecting "Taiwan" is not to select, "not Province 
> of China." 
> Rather, it is to de-politicize the statement altogether. 
> "Taiwan" does 
> not mean, "Taiwan, not Province of China." It is neutral on 
> the issue. 
> Publications around the world and in China itself employ "Taiwan" 
> independently of "Taiwan, Province of China."
> 
> Neither is the act itself of now removing "Province of China" a 
> political act. It is an act by a party that wishes to remain 
> neutral to 
> de-politicize the a representation of a locale. Further, no practical 
> value is lost by de-politicizing this representation, for 
> "Province of 
> China" served no practical or non-political end to begin with.
> 
> dircha
> 
> 

Microsoft Server 2003 uses "Taiwan".

I can't work out what OSX uses as each country in the country list is
shown in the alphabet/font/language of the country.
Presumably it's one of the ones with dots and squiggles. (yes, the're
all dot and sqiggles to someone, I know)

Re: USB pen drive

[Jim McCloskey]

|>> I want to mount an 128Mb USB pen drive IBM on my woody 3.0_r1.
|>> The kernel version is 2.4.18 and it has disabled USB support, so I
|>> have to recompile it. Which options should I have to enable in the
|>> kernel to mount the pen drive (in adition to USB support)?

|>You didn't search too hard, did you? ;)

|>Start here, if you want to use it as a mass storage device:
|>http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x498.html

This is also really useful:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Flash-Memory-HOWTO/index.html


Jim 



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/dev/pts/X not getting reused

[Adeodato Simó]

Hi, since some days ago, I've noticed that pts devices are not being
reused. I mean, the usual behavior was: open a xterm, which gets e.g.
pts/7, close it, open another one, which will get pts/7 again. Now it'd
get pts/8, and then pts/9, and so on. Not that I care *that* much but I
just prefer the old behavior, where pts get recycled.

Has anybody here heard of something similar? I've searched the archives
and googled around but I couldn't find a thing.

I'm using a stock Debian kernel image (kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686).

$ mount | grep pts
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)

TIA.

[Please CC me on replies, M-F-T set accordingly.]

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Re: lookit does not start on bootup

[S.Squarepants]

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 19:15:31 + (UTC)
Faheem Mitha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear People,
> 
> I have a minor but annoying problem with lokkit. It does not start at
> bootup. The runlevel look normal eg.
> 
> etc/rc0.d/K99lokkit
> etc/rc1.d/K99lokkit
> etc/rc2.d/S01lokkit
> etc/rc3.d/S01lokkit
> etc/rc4.d/S01lokkit
> etc/rc5.d/S01lokkit
> etc/rc6.d/K99lokkit
> 
> but I get errors at bootup which don't appear to be captured to any
> file so I can't reproduce them here. I can start it manually by
> 
> Chrestomanci:~# /etc/init.d/lokkit start
> Starting basic firewall rules: lokkit.
> 
> I reported this as
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=219686
> 
> but did not get a response.
> 
> Is anybody else seeing this problem?
> 
> Thanks in advance.

I have no idea if this will help you or not, but I once had a problem
with some other things that failed to work prior to the network being
up. I doubt that's the case here, but it still might rely on something
else that needs to load first.

Try changing the "S" numbers to something higher. Maybe start at S99,
and if that works try it again at S50 or something till you get it in
the right range.

Redhat used to have the same problem (don't know if Fedora fixed it)
with pcmcia. It would start /after/ networking, so the network wouldn't
come up because the card needed for it wasn't initializing until later
on in the boot process.

HTH, but I have no idea whether it will or not.

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Re: Exim, Cyrus, Mutt + what?

[Paul Mackinney]

Pigeon declaimed:
> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:05:13AM -0800, Paul Mackinney wrote:
> > I'm relatively happy with mailfilter, which connects to a POP server and
> > deletes messages based on header content without downloading them. It
> > supports scoring although I haven't gotten that far. Mailfilter's main
> > limitation is that it can't detect attachment names, so you can't
> > proactively nuke anything with a .pif or .exe extention. 
> 
> Yes you can... eg.
> 
> DENY=^Content-(Type|[Dd]isposition):.*(file)?name=.*\.(asd|bat|chm|cmd|com|dll|exe|gif|hlp|hta|js|jse|lnk|ocx|pif|scr|shb|shm|shs|vb|vbe|vbs|vbx|vxd|wav|wsf|wsh)
> 
Thanks, Pigeon. Is your REG_TYPE set to basic or extended in
.mailfilterrc?

PM
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Ksysguard problem

[Caveman]

Hi,

I am having a problem with ksysguard. It does not show any processes
running. I though that starting ksysguardd both with and without the -d 
option would work.. but this has not happened..

Any ideas as to whats wrong?

I am using debian testing

Caveman


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RE: Error installing libgimp2.0 on Debian unstable

[Jean-Sébastien Guay]

Hello Kevin,

Thanks for answering. I seem to be having a problem with the debian-user
list : I never saw my own message, nor the message from the other person
who said "rename this and do it again" (which I had already tried).
Luckily I saw yours...

> This is already filed -- hopefully it will be fixed soon: 
> http://bugs.debian.org/241587

Thanks for the pointer, I'll be sure to check there next time.

>  > Rename this and do it again.
> 
> This will not work, at least not efficiently; if I recall correctly 
> there were a large number of overlapping files in libgimp2.0 and 
> gimp-data packages.  The "correct" thing to do is install the package 
> with the --force-overwrite command to dpkg:
> 
> dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libgimp2.0*.deb

Thanks, this seems to have allowed me to install the package, and the
rest of my upgrade is going smoothly now.

Thanks again,


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  http://whitestar02.webhop.org/

Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[dircha]

Bruce Miller wrote:
It is perfectly reasonable of Debian to adopt an international standard. 
It raises Debian above the debate which is taking place here.
I protest. It is not perfectly reasonable. This is not a political issue 
for me. I have no established opinion as to whether or not Taiwan is 
properly a "Province of China."

Debian does not obtain neutrality by selecting an existing political 
compromise and simply saying, "That's it, we don't want to get 
involved." Simply saying something does not make it so. As I explained 
at length, "Province of China" serves no legitimate purpose in the 
selection of a locale. Its sole purpose is to convey a political 
statement (a relation of political authority of a part to a whole) 
beyond this single purpose, a statement which is highly controversial. 
Debian can not hide behind "it is a standard". As I have thoroughly 
explained previously, selecting "Taiwan, Province of China" is a choice 
(a selection made without necessity), and is not a choice warranted by 
any practical consideration.

The "perfectly reasonable" option is to remove the political commentary, 
"Province of China" and to stop hiding behind "it is a standard," an 
appeal to authority, as if that could legitimize the inclusion of an 
assertion of a political relation, where there ought not to be one.

Even now, selecting "Taiwan" is not to select, "not Province of China." 
Rather, it is to de-politicize the statement altogether. "Taiwan" does 
not mean, "Taiwan, not Province of China." It is neutral on the issue. 
Publications around the world and in China itself employ "Taiwan" 
independently of "Taiwan, Province of China."

Neither is the act itself of now removing "Province of China" a 
political act. It is an act by a party that wishes to remain neutral to 
de-politicize the a representation of a locale. Further, no practical 
value is lost by de-politicizing this representation, for "Province of 
China" served no practical or non-political end to begin with.

dircha

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Re: ./configure options

[Alec Berryman]

On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 01:18:25PM +0800, Enrique Samson Jr. wrote:
> how do i know about what configure options were used in building a 
> particular package? particularly mysql-server...

You'll want to find out what's in the debian/rules file.  You can get to
that at least two ways:

Via packages.debian.org: search for the package, scroll down to the
"More information" section, and click on the 'package'.diff.gz file.
Search through that for 'debian/control' and you should find the
appropriate part - the ./configure options will be in there.

Alternatively, if you plan on rebuilding the package, make sure you have
deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list and 'apt-get source
'package', then look in the 'package/debian/rules' file for the
configure options.


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./configure options

[Enrique Samson Jr.]

hi.
how do i know about what configure options were used in building a 
particular package? particularly mysql-server...
tia.

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Re: burning CDs, or, Ah, now ESR's rant makes sense . . .

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:38:14AM -0600, Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 04:54:55PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> >| Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> >| 
> >| >On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 04:23:27PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> >| >| Now Eric S. Raymond's rant about the (un)usability issues in Linux 
> >| >| (http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/luxury-part-deux.html) makes sense 
> >| >| . . .
> >| >| 
> >| >| I'm trying to get my CD burner to work.

> Making progress . . .
> 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk:> sudo cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus
> >Password:
> >Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a26 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 
> >J?rg Schilling
> >NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of 
> >cdrecord
> >  and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
> >  Please send bug reports and support requests to 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> >  The original author should not be bothered with problems of this 
> >version.
> >
> >scsidev: 'ATAPI'
> >devname: 'ATAPI'
> >scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
> >Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
> >Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha.
> >Warning: There may be fatal problems.
> >Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
> >scsibus0:
> >0,0,0 0) 'SONY' 'CD-RW  CRX216E  ' 'PD01' Removable CD-ROM

<...>

> So my command to burn the ISO should be:
> 
>  cdrecord -dao dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 foo.iso
> 
> right?

Hopping in late (I went through a similar learning experience)...

I added:

 - "hdc=ide-scsi" to my GRUB menu-list:

# kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=6 noapic hdc=ide-scsi

 - cdrecord -scanbus in my case provides:

0,0,0 0) 'TEAC' 'DW-224E ' '1.0A' Removable CD-ROM

 - I get 'tao' (track at once) as the recommended format.  Though I'm
   not sure of this.

 - At the advice of a friend, I add '-pad' to the command to ensure
   padding to an appropriate number of blocks.  Well-constructed ISOs
   shouldn't require this.

 - Many (most?) current drives support "burnfree", which is a CDR
   extension that has the drive compensate for the input buffer draining
   to zero.  After coastering a few disks, I've burned > 150 disks w/o
   problems (other than misplaced labels ;-).

My final command:

sudo cdrecord -v driveropts=burnfree -dev 0,0,0 -pad -tao -eject 


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Re: postalias: relocation error (was Postfix2.0.19-1 fails to install)

[Jokke Heikkilä]

On 5.4.2004, at 00:55, Allan Wind wrote:

On 2004-04-05T00:29:40+0300, Jokke Heikkilä wrote:
postalias: relocation error: /usr/lib/libpostfix-util.so.1: undefined
symbol: db_version_4001
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ldd /usr/sbin/postalias
libpostfix-global.so.1 => /usr/lib/libpostfix-global.so.1 
(0x40021000)
libpostfix-util.so.1 => /usr/lib/libpostfix-util.so.1 
(0x4003f000)
libdb-4.1.so => /usr/lib/libdb-4.1.so (0x4005e000)
libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x4011f000)
libresolv.so.2 => /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x40134000)
libgdbm_compat.so.3 => /usr/lib/libgdbm_compat.so.3 
(0x40146000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40149000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4027c000)
libgdbm.so.3 => /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3 (0x4027f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

Do you have this one installed?

ii  libdb4.1   4.1.25-17  Berkeley v4.1 Database Libraries
[runtime]
Yes I have it installed.

tahko:~# dpkg -l | grep -i libdb
ii  libdb1-compat  2.1.3-7The Berkeley database routines [glibc 
2.0/2.
ii  libdb2 2.7.7.0-8.1The Berkeley database routines 
(run-time fil
ii  libdb2-util2.7.7.0-8.1The Berkeley database routines 
(development
ii  libdb3 3.2.9-19   Berkeley v3 Database Libraries 
[runtime]
ii  libdb3-dev 3.2.9-19   Berkeley v3 Database Libraries 
[development]
ii  libdb3-util3.2.9-19   Berkeley v3 Database Utilities
ii  libdb4.0   4.0.14-1.3 Berkeley v4.0 Database Libraries 
[runtime]
ii  libdb4.1   4.1.25-17  Berkeley v4.1 Database Libraries 
[runtime]
ii  libdb4.1++ 4.1.25-17  Berkeley v4.1 Database Libraries for 
C++ [ru
ii  libdb4.2   4.2.52-16  Berkeley v4.2 Database Libraries 
[runtime]
ii  libdb4.2++ 4.2.52-16  Berkeley v4.2 Database Libraries for 
C++ [ru
ii  libdb4.2-tcl   4.2.52-16  Berkeley v4.2 Database Libraries for 
TCL [mo

Re: [OT] robots.txt creation script?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 10:29:24AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I've recently developed an interest in preventing spiders from accessing
> certain areas of my site ... but as near as I can tell, robots.txt is
> pretty stupid.  It only lets you *disallow*, whereas it would be a lot
> more sensible for me to specify what I want to *allow*.
> 
> I was thinking I might hack up a little script to generate a robots.txt
> file that disallows everything except the files I've listed, but first,
> has anyone already done this or seen this done?  I'd hate to reinvent
> the wheel =)
> 
> In my ideal world, robots.txt wouldn't require you to call out all of
> the "hidden" directories on your site ... *sigh* ... 

RTFM WRT htaccess.


As a note:  I found recently that a site I wanted to reference was no
longer online (actually, I'd known this for a while), but *also* had a
robots.txt prohibiting access.  Which meant that the Internet Archive
(http://www.archive.org/) didn't provide access to old views of the
site.

I asked the site owner if he'd modify the robots.txt to allow for
display.  Well, turns out IA says that having a robots.txt will remove
the site from the archive  But we ran with it anyway, and he removed
robots.txt from the site.

IA had the full archived site online the same day.


Short form of story:  don't trust robots.txt for keeping people out of
your site.  At best, it will restrict well-behaved robots from trawling
potentially large parts of your site (with associated bandwidth costs).
It's not going to assure that _no_ robots crawl, or that they don't keep
copies.

For that, you need access control.  And people you trust with access.

There's an old saying about how three people can keep a secret that I'd
tell you here, but both the other people who knew it are dead.


Peace.

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kernel-image 2.6 ppc

[Jean-Michel]

The various package lists contain kernel(2.6)-images for all sorts
of architectures except ppc. Why ? It would be nice to have an
apt-get(table) 2.6 kernel.


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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Bruce Miller]

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Joey Hess was on the mark to criticize members of this list for rising 
to flamebait.

International technical fora are adamant that they discuss only 
technical issues and leave politics to the politicians. To help this 
international technical forum --- a mailing list about an operating 
system --- to do the same, let us remember what the politicians of the 
national government of most of the participants in this debate have 
done on this issue:

The International Standards Organizations operates by consensus. The 
flip-side of consensus is that everyone has a veto. The ISO standard 
would not have happened without the 100% agreement of the United States 
Government.

The United Nations' usage is one which the United States Government 
agreed to of its own free will over 30 years ago and from which no 
subsequent Administration, neither Republican nor Democratic, has 
wavered since.

Far be it from any of us outside the USA to criticize the right of 
Americans to criticize their government's policy, or for any other 
nationality to criticize its government's policy, but an international 
technical forum is not the place to do it.

It is perfectly reasonable of Debian to adopt an international standard. 
It raises Debian above the debate which is taking place here.

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Re: Can't use GUI as root

[Leo Spalteholz]

On April 4, 2004 05:47 pm, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Toshiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I
> > try to startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login
> > manager. I don't have any problem using a normal user.
> >
> > Anybody know what's the problem?
>
> Problem exists between keyboard and chair.  Don't log in as root.  Log
> in as a normal user, and use su -m to run things as root.  Then you're
> not running *nearly* as much while running as root, less potential to
> screw things up.

Problem exists in condescending replies.  It's a perfectly reasonable 
question and a reasonable concern.  How is a user supposed to know that 
they shouldn't log in as root.  My system just refuses to display a 
graphical desktop if I try to log in as root in kdm.  No error message, no 
explanation equals usability bug.  
And it is useful to log into KDE as root once in a while. For example a 
couple weeks ago I installed udev which rendered any terminal emulator in 
X useless and I couldn't run kdesu to execute graphical applications as 
root.  So there was no (easy) way to execute a graphical application as 
root without logging in as root which I was prevented from doing with no 
explanation.  The system should display a warning (a very insistant one if 
necessary) but it shouldn't just wordlessly deny a user to login as root.

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Re: Error installing libgimp2.0 on Debian unstable

[Kevin B. McCarty]

> Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> When trying to upgrade my system today, I got this error when
> installing libgimp2.0  (output from apt-get -f dist-install follows)
This is already filed -- hopefully it will be fixed soon: 
http://bugs.debian.org/241587

> >  trying to overwrite
> > `/usr/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/gimp20-libgimp.mo', which is also 
> > in package gimp-data
>
>
> Rename this and do it again.

This will not work, at least not efficiently; if I recall correctly 
there were a large number of overlapping files in libgimp2.0 and 
gimp-data packages.  The "correct" thing to do is install the package 
with the --force-overwrite command to dpkg:

dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libgimp2.0*.deb

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where can I find glutf90.h file?

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

I am trying to compile the source code of f90gl package from 
http://math.nist.gov/f90gl/software.html
In the INSTALL file contained in f90gl-1.2.9.tar.gz 
, it says I should have 
glutf90.h to proceed with the compilation. I could not find this file 
anywhere in the debian distribution. I searched in packages.debian.org. 
One solution is to compile glut myself. But being a newbie, I am trying 
to avoid compiling the sources...

Should I file a bug report for this in libglut3-dev package? or am I 
missing something? Could anyone point me in the right direction?
thanks
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Re: Systemwide Gtk2.0 configurations?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 01:53:54PM -0800, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm looking to fix a few borken settings in gtk2.  Preference for emacs
> keybindings, and others, as described here:
> 
> http://www.gtk.org/gtk-2.0.0-notes.html
> 
> What I'm *not* finding is a systemwide, global configuration file /
> location / library for gtk2.0.
> 
> In gtk1, it was possible to edit /etc/gtk/gtkrc. for specific
> settings.  I don't see a similar single global file for libgtk2.0.
> There are multiple references to modifying ~/.gtkrc2.0, but no mention
> of a global config file in the libgtk2.0-common docs.  Supposedly a
> benefit of gtk2.x is the ability to make global settings.
> 
> So, for this non-GNOME using Windowmaker fan using a small set of GNOME
> apps:  how to I make this change _once_ systemwide?
> 
> 
> 
> Keywords:  gtk gtk2 gtk2.0 emacs keybindings key bindings systemwide
> system-wide gnome die die die

I haven't seen a solid followup or answer elsewhere to this question
since I asked it in mid-February.

Anyone?


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Re: Promise MBFastTrak133

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 05:17:54PM -0400, Linux Nick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Is there a command to list the drives attached (not mounted) to the system?

The SOP is to scan 'dmesg' or /var/log/dmesg (saved after boot) for
drive listings.

> Cause I didn't see anything listed on bootup for my expansion card, and I
> have both promise things listed in the kernel and compiled in. It is built
> onto the mobo and it is a MBFastTrak133
> 
> The drives show up when it boots as it detects them, but I cant see
> anything in linux as it boots saying it found them. I also have a
> promise Ultra133TX2 and it works fine, this one is built onboard and
> cant find any help besides what to do in suse or redhat, im running
> kernel 2.4.25, I would think it is supported.  

> Here is my dmesg for the drives it does find...
> 
> kernel: PDC20276: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:06.0
> kernel: PDC20276: chipset revision 1
> kernel: PDC20276: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later
> kernel: PDC20276: neither IDE port enabled (BIOS)
> kernel: PDC20269: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:0e.0
> kernel: PDC20269: chipset revision 2
> kernel: PDC20269: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later
> kernel: ide2: BM-DMA at 0x7800-0x7807, BIOS settings: hde:pio,
> hdf:pio
> kernel: ide3: BM-DMA at 0x7808-0x780f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio,
> hdh:pio
> kernel: hda: MAXTOR 6L040J2, ATA DISK drive
> kernel: hdb: _NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> kernel: hdc: WDC WD1600JB-32EVA0, ATA DISK drive
> kernel: hde: WDC WD2500JB-32FUA0, ATA DISK drive
> kernel: hdf: WDC WD2500JB-32FUA0, ATA DISK drive
> kernel: blk: queue c033d878, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
> kernel: blk: queue c033d9c0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
> kernel: hdg: WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0, ATA DISK drive
> kernel: hdh: WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0, ATA DISK drive
> kernel: blk: queue c033dce4, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
> kernel: blk: queue c033de2c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
> 
> hde, hdf, hdg, and hdh are on the promise card that are working, any
> ideas on how to get that other built on expansion promise card to
> work?

I'm not sure if it's possible to request a rescan of the PCI bus, but I
suspect that's the direction you want to look.  Based on a wild-ass
guess, nothing more concrete.


Google Groups is often a useful resource.  You may need to pass a kernel
boot option to find your card.

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Re: Re: Re: VT switching broken in Gnome

[Garcia, Jose Manuel]

I had exactly the same problem as you after i upgraded my debian. I think the problem 
is related to key mappings. To solve the problem you can rename the .Xmodmap file in 
your home folder to .Xmodmap.bak or whatever you want, so gnome doesn't loads this 
configuration file. It works fine for me.

> cd /home/username
> mv .Xmodmap .Xmodmap.bak

Best regards 

Re: How can I halt the PC during boot if CPU is running too fast?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 08:13:47AM -0800, William Ballard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I can O/C my computer stable to 230mhz FSB in Windows but it's not 
> stable in Linux -- I get ReiserFS corruption.  Up to 220mhz is stable 
> everywhere.  (Actually I can push it farther but don't want too much 
> heat).
> 
> I'd like  to check /proc/cpuinfo early in the runlevel init 
> scripts, preferably before the root is mounted, and halt if the MHz 
> number is too high.  However since 'sed', 'cut', 'bash', and 'halt' are 
> only available on the filesystem, I'd either need a special tool like 
> busybox available somewhere or else I have to compile this into the 
> kernel itself.

Possibly an initrd.

Or a custom-compiled C solution.

One option might be to boot DOS (faster boot), run you CPU speed check,
and either shut down or load GNU/Linux via LOADLIN.EXE depending on the
result.


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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Miles Bader]

Anthony Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?  Why can't it
> > just stick with a neutral "Taiwan".  Why single out a geographical
> > name and append a political statement to it?  Sticks out and looks
> > kind of silly.

> Debian cannot win this argument and should not participate in it. We
> have to choose names from some standards body somewhere, and no matter
> what we do somebody will disagree.

Anyone with half a brain can see what moronic thing the `Taiwan,
Province of China' is.  It's the _only_ `editorial comment' in the
entire list (all other comma-separated entries are simple prefixes which
when used result in each country's full official name; the Taiwan entry
doesn't really fit).

It's clear that the PRC threw its weight around, threw a tantrum,
whatever, to get this kind of crap embedded in a standard, as
unnecessary and awkward as it is.

There's a solution which angers no one except those who have already
have abused the process:  just keep `Taiwan'.

Debian can even make a standard if they want: editorial comments will be
deleted.  Thus in the future, if Israel and Iran get tagged as `Israel,
illegitimate zionist running dogs', and `Iran, dictatorship of evil'
(and given the horse-trading that these standards reflect, I wouldn't
be at all surprised), Debian's course will be clear.

> > Why thrust Debian into politics, where there was no big problem
>
> It is people like you who thrust Debian into politics, even not enough
> in debian-boot.  Yes, you love living in China Taiwan. Will you stand
> on the other side when you live in China mainland?

Debian shouldn't _make_ editorial comments like this, but they shouldn't
dumbly stand by and mirror those made by others with fewer scruples.

-Miles
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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[John Hasler]

Anthony Johnson writes:
> We have to choose names from some standards body somewhere...

The "standards body" in question is the UN, which has labeled the place
"Taiwan, a province of China" for purely political purposes.  In normal
conversation the place is referred to simply as "Taiwan".  Tacking on "a
province of China" is making a political statement.  There is no
non-political reason to do it.

> Yes, you love living in China Taiwan. Will you stand on the other side
> when you live in China mainland?

The people who live on the island call it Taiwan.  What's wrong with using
the name they choose?
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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[dircha]

John Hasler wrote:
The problem is that we have to use some
STANDARDIZED source of country names.
Why?
First, the purpose of Debian in selecting and presenting a locale name 
is not to make a political statement or political value judgment.

What is the purpose of Debian in selecting and presenting a locale name? 
The purpose is to best facilitate the selection of the appropriate 
locale by those who may need to select it.

In this case, both "Taiwan" and "Taiwan, Province of China" are adequate 
to this purpose.

But what additional information does, "Province of China" convey? Does 
it serve to disambiguate between two otherwise ambiguous locales?

What then, is a "Province", and what does it mean to be a "Province of"? 
Of the definitions before me, the gist of those most plausible in this 
context is that it is to stand in a relation of a part to a whole in 
which the latter has political authority over the former.

Unless for those who may need to make an unambiguous locale selection 
there is a legitimate disambiguating purpose served by appending, 
"Province of China," then it is clear that the sole informative effect 
of appending "Province of China" is to express that "Taiwan" stands in a 
relation of political authority to "China", in which the latter has 
political authority over the former.

No legitimate disambiguating purpose is served by appending "Province of 
China". Possibly in the case that there are two distinct locales 
possibly referred to as "Taiwan", one which is a province of China and 
one which is not a province of China, there may be a legitimate 
disambiguating purpose served. But this is not the case. In this case, 
both "Taiwan" and "Taiwan, Province of China" as commonly employed do 
not refer to distinct locales, or even distinct geographic locations. 
When I say "Taiwan" in the context of a locale, no one is confused as to 
what I refer.

The only informative effect of appending "Province of China", therefore, 
is to convey information about a political relation. Conveying 
information of this political relation does not legitimately serve the 
purpose of selecting a locale - a currency, encoding, etc.

Texas, State of the Union.

India, colony of the Royal British Empire.
(or whatever was the historically accurate term; you get the idea).
According to the UN listing, the country name of the location called
Taiwan, is "Taiwan, Province of China".
Screw the UN.  Shorten it to "Taiwan".
This doesn't need to be a political choice at all.

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[William Ballard]

On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 07:28:49PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> same. If Debian has a Chinese language version for which the final arbiter
> of language usage is a Mainlander, the name in Debian should also be of 
> that person's choosing. If the final arbiter is a resident/citizen of 

Here's a wacky, and probably distasteful, but pragmatic suggestion:

Use whatever name Microsoft used for Taiwan in Windows Server 2003.  As 
a former employee I know Microsoft has an entire wing of the 
internalization superstructure devoted to hunting and killing 
politically sensitive terms, in PARTICULAR the Taiwan/China issue.  They 
have a tool called PoliticsCheck or something which scans code blocks 
looking for sensitive terms.

The reason I would suggesting just blindly imitating them is they have 
professionals who spent 40 hours a week all year long investigating 
this, and they are super DUPER scared of being sued, so you can bet they 
at least have an acceptable solution.


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Upgrading to 'testing'

[jack kinnon]

Hi folks,
 
Thanks for the suggestions. And Kent, point taken. I'll be more explicit on every msg.
 
First, my current set-up. I have 'stable' with a 2..2.20 kernel. My broadband modem is a Prolink Hurricane 8000 with a USB interface to the computer and a phone link to the wall phone socket. Under Window XP, it is configured for pppoE.
 
I would like to use this set-up to upgrade from 'stable' to 'testing'; adding more network hardware is not an option.
 
So, 'stable' does support broadband. It could be the kernel then. 
What's the  link to the latest  'stable' kernel version? 
 
 
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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Anthony Johnson]

--- Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of
> China"?
> Why can't it just stick with a neutral "Taiwan".
> Why single out a geographical name and append a
> political statement to it?
> Sticks out and looks kind of silly.
Debian cannot win this argument and should not
participate in it. We
have to choose names from some standards body
somewhere, and no matter
what we do somebody will disagree.
> Why thrust Debian into politics, where there was no
> big problem
It is people like you who thrust Debian into politics,
even not enough in debian-boot.
Yes, you love living in China Taiwan. Will you stand
on the other side when you live in China mainland?

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ppp problem,

[Jack Curry]

I upgraded to 2.6.4, and now my PCMCIA modem doesn't work. The following line 
in /var/log/syslog
Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error
What to do?


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Re: Screen size in GNOME?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 12:07:03PM +0200, Michal R. Hoffmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Recently I found I couldn't log in into GNOME. I found the reason. In 
> XF86Config-4 I have defined resolutions:
> 
> 1024x768, 1280x1024, 800x600, 800x600PAL (this is for my VooDoo 3 TV-Out)
> and Virtual Screen size:
> 1280x1024
> 
> In GNOME I have set the screen size 1024x768 - I have 17" monitor and 
> 1280x1024 is too much, it is good as virtual. But. I have to put 1280x1024 
> in allowed resolutions, in other case xrandr don't want to work. (I need 
> xrandr to switch into 800x600PAL, to have tv-out).
> 
> Then I cannot login into GNOME. I have to in login screen (gdm) change 
> resolution to 1280x1024 (Ctrl-Alt-+), login, and then Ctrl-Alt-- to get 
> back into my favourite one.
> 
> Any hint what can I do?

# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Select a supported screensize.

You may also find that your monitor can drive undocumented resolutions
with modified modelines.  I pushed my ViewSonic A90f+ to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with:

Modeline"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 142.76 1280 1312 1848 1880 960 978 990 1009

...mostly by using a modeline generator ('modeline' package for Debian)
and tweaking the derived result until my monitor displayed at that
resolution.  There's pretty good documentation of modeline components
through Google.

> Second thing: Is there some GUI to switch resolution (just in the way
> like Ctrl-Alt-[+/-] does) in deb package, preferably?

Several.  The wmxressel dock app for WindowMaker, for wexample.  Though
I don't use these.

> And third: Is it possible to change virt.screen size without
> restarting X? If so, is some deb package with "nice gui" for this?

Supported in very recent versions of XF86v4.


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racoon for host to host IPSEC

[minge_wang]

Hi folks,
   I am using debain unstable with kernel 2.6.4.1 SMP, racoon 2.4.3. and try to do 
host to host IPsec, always get the error:
isakmp_parsewoh(): invalid length of payload
though the manual IPSEC is ok using sample from http://www.ipsec-howto.org/t1.html.

   anyone has some clue?
   thanks.

min

/log file

Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: oakley.c:2713:oakley_do_decrypt(): decrypted 
payload by IV:
Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: plog.c:196:plogdump():  9f004601 b8d3e6b0
Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: oakley.c:2716:oakley_do_decrypt(): decrypted 
payload, but not trimed.
Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: plog.c:196:plogdump():  95d71d17 e6a945af 
4fb1e501 0c6dde24 03040067 a920cf08 fe047cce 8938adaf a864efb2 60ab96b8
Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: oakley.c:2725:oakley_do_decrypt(): padding 
len=185
Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: oakley.c:2739:oakley_do_decrypt(): skip to trim 
padding.
Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: oakley.c:2754:oakley_do_decrypt(): decrypted.
Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: plog.c:196:plogdump():  1df68693 b5ab4638 
ec24219f 2ee98677 05100201  0044 95d71d17 e6a945af 4fb1e501 0c6dde24 
03040067 a920cf08 fe047cce 8938adaf a864efb2 60ab96b8
Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1109:isakmp_parsewoh(): begin.
Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1136:isakmp_parsewoh(): seen 
nptype=5(id)
Apr  4 19:24:28 mailsrv racoon: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1142:isakmp_parsewoh(): invalid length 
of payload
Apr  4 19:24:38 mailsrv racoon: ERROR: isakmp.c:1454:isakmp_ph1resend(): phase1 
negotiation failed due to time up. 1df68693b5ab4638:ec24219f2ee98677


/// config file


@mailsrv:/etc/racoon$ more racoon.conf
#
# Simple racoon.conf
# 
#
# Please look in /usr/share/doc/racoon/examples for
# the example that comes with the source.
#
# Please read racoon.conf(5) for details, and also
# read setkey(8).
#
# Also read the Linux IPSEC Howto up at 
# http://www.ipsec-howto.org/t1.html 
#
log debug4;
path pre_shared_key "/etc/racoon/psk.txt";
path certificate "/etc/racoon/certs";

#remote 172.31.1.1 {
#exchange_mode main,aggressive;
#proposal {
#encryption_algorithm 3des;
#hash_algorithm sha1;
#authentication_method pre_shared_key;
#dh_group modp1024;
#}
#generate_policy off;
#}
# 
#sainfo address 192.168.203.10[any] any address 192.168.22.0/24[any] any {
#pfs_group modp768;
#encryption_algorithm 3des;
#authentication_algorithm hmac_md5;
#compression_algorithm deflate;
#}

padding
{
maximum_length 120;  # maximum padding length.
randomize off;  # enable randomize length.
strict_check off;   # enable strict check.
# exclusive_tail off; # extract last one octet.
}

remote anonymous {
exchange_mode main,aggressive,base;
lifetime time 24 hour;
my_identifier address 192.168.1.30;
 proposal {
encryption_algorithm 3des;
hash_algorithm sha1;
authentication_method pre_shared_key;
dh_group 2;

}

}


sainfo anonymous {

pfs_group 2;
lifetime time 12 hour;
encryption_algorithm 3des;

authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1, hmac_md5;

compression_algorithm deflate;

}

mailsrv:~# more ipsec2.conf
#!/usr/sbin/setkey -f
#
# Flush SAD and SPD
flush;
spdflush;

# Create policies for racoon
spdadd 192.168.1.105 192.168.1.30 any -P in ipsec
   esp/transport//require;
#  ah/transport//require;
spdadd 192.168.1.30 192.168.1.105 any -P out ipsec
esp/transport//require;
#   ah/transport//require;

mailsrv:/etc/racoon# more psk.txt
# IPv4/v6 addresses
192.168.1.105   mekmitasdigoat
# 3ffe:501:410::210:4bff:fea2:8baa  mekmitasdigoat
# USER_FQDN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]mekmitasdigoat
# FQDN
#kame   hoge


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Re: Showing log messages on desktop

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 05:43:04PM +0300, E&Erdem ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
> I want to see /var/log/messages on a small part of my desktop. Is this
> possible? I've heard something like this. 
> 
> Is there a document or how-to about this?
> 
> I use Gnome2.4 on testing with 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel.

xrootconsole, in addition to solutions previously listed.


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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Paul E Condon:
> We have both. We are inclusive. Inclusive is PC. PC is good.
...^^

Please, don't drag that into this.  This was a fairly civilized
discussion before that happened.


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Re: LICENSE/ SERIAL NUMBERS for INSTALLATION

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 08:27:35AM -0500, Stephen Touset ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 03:31, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > Stephen Touset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > I've seen bullshit legal boilerplate on emails from a lot of small
> > > companies (including those from the CEO of a company I work for), and I
> > > can't help but giggle at how silly the whole premise is.
> > 
> > Ever explain it to them why it's so silly?
> 
> Yes, actually. Unfortunately, the only response I've ever gotten is
> something akin to, "Every other executive (of small companies that never
> seem to go anywhere) does it. It's an industry standard."
> 
> The argument that it's literally 100% bullshit and not binding in any
> way (just because you say it's illegal to read the email doesn't
> actually mean it is) seems to be completely lost on them. I haven't yet
> tried the approach of telling them what kind of impression it gives
> others, though.

I've recently added a header specifically rejecting email disclaimers.




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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Paul E Condon]

On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:04:23AM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> Dan Jacobson wrote:
> 
> >Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?
> > 
> >
[snip]

Three thoughts:

1. The UN is not the final arbiter of names of political entities. 
e.g. except for US veto, Isreal would have ceased to have standing
long ago.

2. Mainland China needs OpenSource more thant OpenSource needs mainland
China. 

3. Catalan is not the official language of a member state of the UN, but
it is a language that is supported in Debian. 

I conclude that language and sovereign country is not a unique one-to-one
mapping. 

Given what I understand of the politics and history of Taiwan/China, I 
think it is unlikely that the two use the same language *in every detail*.
Particularly, I doubt that their usage of technical language jargon is the
same. If Debian has a Chinese language version for which the final arbiter
of language usage is a Mainlander, the name in Debian should also be of 
that person's choosing. If the final arbiter is a resident/citizen of 
Taiwan, his(her) choise of name should also apply. If we have both, good.
We have both. We are inclusive. Inclusive is PC. PC is good.

Just my 2cents.

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Re: Database performance

[Christopher L. Everett]

Glenn Meehan wrote:

On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 11:51, Christopher L. Everett wrote:

So, what kind of hard drive subsystem can I run that would get me
3 to 4 times the performance that wouldn't break the bank?
   

Which file system are you using?

I find the performance of ext2 superior to that of ext3.
 

Actually, I'm on XFS.  And no, I won't step down to ext2, because
it won't make enough of a difference plus the downside of data
corruption for outdate filesystems doesn't work for me at all.
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Re: Unable to find Ncurses libararies/Compile Kernel

[Robert Gingher]

Forest,
 
Don't wade through all the bullshit, you basically 
have to load the developer's version of ncurses:
 
apt-get install libncurses5-dev
 
Regards,
 
Rob

Upgrade and instillation problems

[Bill]

I have been using unstable for a fiew months now.  today, I used 
apt-get update/upgrade. After reboot, I can not use my motherboard 
ethernet or sound.
I downloaded the current sid (4/2/04) disk 1  to reload debian. On 
boot, I get the following error:
attempt to access beyond end of device
01:00: rw=0, want=8318, limit=8192
(printed several times)

I have tried downloading the disk again, used another CD burner, and 
tried booting on 2 other pc's with the same error

this error is printed several times, then the system stops.

I also tried to install testing, using an install disk about 3months 
old, then upgrading to unstable. Again, after rebooting, I no longer 
have my ethernet or sound.

 Is anyone else having the same problem?



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Re: Can't use GUI as root

[Paul Johnson]

Toshiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I try to 
> startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manager. I don't 
> have any problem using a normal user.
>
> Anybody know what's the problem?

Problem exists between keyboard and chair.  Don't log in as root.  Log
in as a normal user, and use su -m to run things as root.  Then you're
not running *nearly* as much while running as root, less potential to
screw things up.

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[John Hasler]

Alex Malinovich writes:
> The problem is that we have to use some
> STANDARDIZED source of country names.

Why?

> According to the UN listing, the country name of the location called
> Taiwan, is "Taiwan, Province of China".

Screw the UN.  Shorten it to "Taiwan".
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mouse problems with kernel-image-2.6.3-1-k7

[Thomas Beresford]

Hello again fellas,

I recently upgraded my 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel to 2.6.3-1-k7 kernel. 
I have an AMD Athlon processor and a Nvidia Geforce 4 MX440 video card 
and a Genius NetScroll PS/2 mouse. The problem is that since I upgraded
my kernel and installed the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1.run driver
I'm having a problem with the XF86Config-4 mouse protocol configuration. 
It used to be like this:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "NetMousePS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

But since the upgrade, the configuration above doesn't work anymore. The 
mouse pointer doesn't move correctly and it left/right clicks randomly. 
So I changed the protocol from NetMousePS/2 to ImPS/2. Now it works but
it's not the same as before. The mouse pointer movement precision is not good.
Anybody knows what's the cause to the NetMouse protocol (which is the correct
protocol for Genius mice) not to work correctly now? 

PS: my XFree86 Version is 4.1.0.1
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Re: Dial up problems when upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel

[Thomas Beresford]

Man! It worked! Besides lo, I had sl0 running and I guess that was the problem. So after shutting it down, I dialed out again and now it's working! Thanks a lot Marvin, and I hope it will help others with the same problem! But now I wonder why things like this happen with this new kernel?

- Original Message -
From: Marvin Stodolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 16:04:32 -0400
To: 
Subject: Re: Dial up problems when upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel

And after shutting down the eth0  or whatever.
Do a new dialout,  if you have a result like
$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
 nameserver 207.172.3.8
 nameserver 207.172.3.9
you should then have functioning DNS navigaton
MarvS

Marvin Stodolsky wrote:

> US Robotics 56k model 3CP5610A must be a controller chip modem, using 
> the standard serial.o driver under 2.4.n kernels
> and under 2.6.n modules in:
> # ls /lib/modules/2.6.3-test1/kernel/drivers/serial/
> 8250.ko  8250_pci.ko  serial_core.ko  serial_cs.ko
> 
> serial_core and either 8250.ko or 8250_pci
> See what is loaded with # lsmod
> The failure of ping tests means that naviagation is NOT working.
> This can be due to eth0 or some other COMM mode being active.  Check with
>
> $ /sbin/ifconfig
> loLink encap:Local Loopback   inet addr:127.0.0.1  
> Mask:255.0.0.0
>  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>  RX packets:210 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>  TX packets:210 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0  RX bytes:11216 (10.9 KiB)  
> TX bytes:11216 (10.9 KiB)
>
> ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol   inet 
> addr:209.122.217.155  P-t-P:208.59.249.11  Mask:255.255.255.255
>  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>  RX packets:571 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>  TX packets:620 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:3  RX bytes:327714 (320.0 
> KiB)  TX bytes:106428 (103.9 KiB)
>
> The lo block is beneficial loopback testing.
> If you have any other block, say   eth0 , do
> # ifdown eth0
> and/or # ifconfig eth0 down
>
> The 1st Attachment explains.
> Also please download 
> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz
>   under Linux
>  gunzip scanModem.gz
>  chmod +x scanmodem
>  ./scanModem
> will run diagnostics and output advice.
> Send me the output ModemData.txt but NOT the others
>
> MarvS
> scanModem maintainer
>
>
>
> Thomas Beresford wrote:
>
>> I don't know which driver my modem uses but it's an US Robotics 56k 
>> model 3CP5610A and it used to work perfectly with the old kernel.  
>> I´m pretty sure that I'm connecting to my ISP. I'm using wvdial to 
>> connect and I can see all the messages (sending login, password, 
>> authentication, starting pppd, etc). It doesn´t seem to be a DNS 
>> problem since I´ve installed the testing ppp package and the ping 
>> still doesn´t work, nor the numerical address nor the named address. 
>> What could it be?
>>
>> PS: I noticed that the new kernel is loading the ipv6 module, could 
>> it be the problem?
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Marvin Stodolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 18:42:48 -0500
>> To: Thomas Beresford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Dial up problems when upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Which driver does your modem use?
>>> Are you sure you actually CONNECT to the ISP
>>> Compare:
>>> #  ping 30.57.4.70
>>> 64 bytes from 130.57.4.70: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=239.2 ms
>>> 64 bytes from 130.57.4.70: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=240.0 ms
>>> 64 bytes from 130.57.4.70: icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=230.0 ms
>>> 64 bytes from 130.57.4.70: icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=230.0 ms
>>> with the named address
>>> # ping  novell.com
>>> If the numerical address works but not the named address,
>>> Then it is only a DNS problem.
>>>
>>> You may need some PPP support files from the testing distribution 
>>> for DNS to work
>>> Try rebooting under your old kernel.
>>> Within /etc/apt/sources.list, make a duplicate of all lines.
>>> Within the 2nd set, replace "stable" with "testing", for example
>>> deb http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/debian/ stable main  non-free contrib
>>> goes to  
>>>deb http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/debian/ testing main  non-free contrib
>>> Then
>>>apt-get update
>>>apt-get -s install ppp
>>> (where -s is stimulate)
>>> If nothing dangerous is shown
>>>   apt-get install ppp
>>>
>>> MarvS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas Beresford wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
 Hello fellas,

 I upgraded my debian system kernel from 2.4 stable to 2.6 testing. 
 But now my dialup connection doesn't work anymore! I get to connect 
 to my ISP, but i can't navigate. Could someone help me, please?

 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
>
>
>After Br

Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Alex Malinovich]

On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 16:25, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?
> Why can't it just stick with a neutral "Taiwan".
> Why single out a geographical name and append a political statement to it?
> Sticks out and looks kind of silly.
> Who cares what the two governments' official names for Taiwan are.
> Why thrust Debian into politics, where there was no big problem
> before?  Anything more neutral than just "Taiwan"?  I'm all ears.
> Oh great, poison energetic free software enthusiasts with politics.
> How am I going to explain to folks here in Taiwan that that is just a
> superficial or temporary part of Debian, or doesn't represent the view
> of all of Debian?
> Oh great, just after we moved everybody over from Redhat because of
> the flag issue.

If you look at the debian-boot thread in question, you'll see that the
reason is because of standards. The problem is that we have to use some
STANDARDIZED source of country names. In this case, ISO-3166. That's a
list of "short" country names as specified by the UN. ("short" is rather
a joke in the case of many country names in the list) According to the
UN listing, the country name of the location called Taiwan, is "Taiwan,
Province of China".

Pretty much every argument that is likely to be brought up here because
of this has ALREADY been discussed on debian-boot, so I'd suggest people
take a look at that thread first to prevent duplicate discussions.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/debian-boot-200404/msg00284.html

Note that none of the above is a statement of my personal beliefs or
opinions on the issue, but just a statement of facts that have already
been presented elsewhere. I would much rather focus on free software
than politics myself. :)

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Joey Hess]

Please don't crosspost flamebait to multiple debian mailing lists.

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Katipo]

Dan Jacobson wrote:

Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?
 

If this is true, it is an gross understatement to call it a political 
faux pas.
The chinese nationalist movement left China and took over Taiwan (Formosa)
during the red campaign.

To remove all 'face' from them in this rude, ignorant, arrogant manner,
virtually ensures that Debian never establishes itself in Taiwan.
This is not over statement, this is how it is seen from the perspective 
of the chinese mentality.

Mainland China persists in labeling Taiwan as 'Taiwan Province,'
but I see no good reason as to why Debian needs to become involved in 
this aspect.
To censure an entire country in this manner, and in doing so isolate them,
would appear to be the anti-thesis of open source.
Regards,

David.

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Re: Linux Server, Please Help

[Paul Johnson]

Bill Kalebaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I want to change my Windows server to a Linux server but can not
> find out what programs to use or if it is possible.

There's no clean conversion tools, if that's what you're looking for.
You will need to get your hands dirty.

> I have goggled and looked at a lot of how-tos but I can not find out
> if I can set up a server to replace the proxy server I have now
> running windows-98, proxy+, and Sygate Personal Firewall.

You can do way better than that.  Personal firewalls are mostly snake
oil, anyway.[1] I do, however, recommend ipmasq for your NAT firewall
and squid with adzapper set up to be a transparent proxy.  Bonus
points if you can make yours peer with ircache.net, but I've never
succeeded in that.

> The proxy server is a Pentium 200Mhz with 32MB of ram with a 2GB
> hard drive hooked to a dial-up 56K modem. It feeds a LAN through a
> hub. On the LAN is a network printer, and other computers running,
> Windows 2000, Windows98, Linux-Debian and Linux-Suse8.2. All on the
> LAN have fixed IP addresses and the ISP is obtained automatically.

You'll have no problems, plenty of power.  You might want more RAM, though.

> My ISP lets you have 6 different mail accounts, so I have two
> accounts and my wife has her one email address.

Fetchmail is good for that.  You can run it as a system daemon and get
it with your system email, then.

> The proxy server will auto dial and get mail at a predetermined time
> frames form the ISP with out the other computers turned on. When I
> come up on a Linux computer I get my email and surf the web with
> Mozilla or my wife can come up on Windows2000 with Mozilla and will
> the do the same. We also surf at the at the same time.

ipmasq will let you do that.  If you use pppd for your dialup, you can
set it up to do on-demand dialing, in which exim will spool your
outgoing mail and wait for a connection before sending to the
internet, and browsing to an outside network will cause PPP to dail
out.  You might have to try again if you're offline when the
connection is down, and you really ought to try setting up a
transparent, adzapping squid proxy.

> Is there any free software out there for Linux-Debian that will let
> me do this. 

Plenty.  I suggest browsing the HOWTOs[2] when you're stumped,
particularly while you're new.

> Or do I have to stay with W-98 for a server.

Thank God, no!

> If any one can give me a list of software I need and briefly how to
> do it. 

Well, everybody's needs vary.  I've given you some ideas, feel free to
ask questions.  Though ESR has written a good HOWTO[3] on what to do when
you're stumped.

Hope this all helps.



[1] http://www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html
[2] 
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[3] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Re: email signatures

[Karsten M. Self]

on Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:32:14AM +1100, Matthew Joyce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> > Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 25 March 2004 01:20, Matthew Joyce wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > what the polite way off appending a largish sig or disclaimer
> > > > > to an email, is it '--' before the appendage ?
> > > > 
> > > > no, it's "-- " (dash-dash-space)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Not quote.  dash-dash-space-newline
> > 
> > No, it's newline-dash-dash-space-newline ;-)

> Thanks everyone, and for the record I do not intend to actual use it
> for a disclaimer which I personally find pointless, but our
> fundraising department want to promote charity events.

First:  Drop OE like the turd it is.

Second:  apt-get install signify.

This (and the similar 'sigrot') are signature rotation tools.  Signify, in
particular, allows for weighting the sigs to be rotated through.

Some may also note that I take the "4 lines" guideline somewhat loosely,
though I try not to abuse this unless I feel the message is particularly
important.  E.g.:  below.


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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[John Hasler]

Dan Jacobson writes:
> Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?  Why can't it just
> stick with a neutral "Taiwan".

No reason I can think of.
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Can't use GUI as root

[Toshiro]

I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I try to 
startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manager. I don't 
have any problem using a normal user.

Anybody know what's the problem?

Toshiro.


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Re: Inline PGP signatures [was: Re: email signatures]

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 12:53:02PM +0100, Joerg Johannes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Am Fr, den 26.03.2004 schrieb Derrick 'dman' Hudson um 15:46:
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:59:24AM +0100, Joerg Johannes wrote:
> > 
> > | > Not when using inline PGP signatures, then it's considered valid.
> > | 
> > | OK, sorry for that. But now to something else: I use evolution as mua,
> > | and I don't quite understand what to do with inline PGP signatures.
> > 
> > Upgrade them to PGP/MIME.
> > 
> > This configuration is for maildrop, translation to procmail (if
> > desired) is an exercise for the reader :
> 
> < snipped maildrop config >
> 
> Thanks, Derrick. But the good thing about using evolution is, NOT having
> to use maildrop/procmail/fetchmail and all that stuff.

Typical broken GNOME thinking that modular software design is a Bad
Thing.

One of many places where GNOME is wrong.


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Re: Visor & Pilot-xfer - Not synching up regularly

[Jerome R. Acks]

On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 08:45:01PM -0800, Jon Hughes wrote:
> I'm attempting to get my Handspring Visor to work with
>  Debian stable and I'm running into some errors that
> for the life of me I can't figure out.
> (somewhat lengthy post but I want to make sure I give
> as much data as possible)

A few months ago I had similar problems with random failures syncing
with a Handspring Visor. The problem turned out to be the contacts on
the Visor had eroded over time due to reseating it in the hot-sync 
cradle. I had to replace the Visor to fix the problem.

I've also had similar random failures with a Clie. In this latter case
the problem was a new computer in which chipset was not fully supported
by the versions of the 2.4 kernel I was using. All the problems went
away after I started to use a 2.6 kernel. If your motherboard is fairly
new, the chipset support in the 2.4 kernel series may not be complete.
My motherboard has an nVidia nForce2 chipset; although 2.4.22+ kernels
support the nForce2 chipset, the support is not complete. I have four
other USB memory device readers on the computer that the 2.4 kernels
could not detect.

> 
> Some info:
> Kernel: 2.4.25
> Debian 3.0 (stable)
> All kernel configurations according to the HOWTO at
> Linuxpda.com have been completed. The USB devices work
> (I can verify if via 'usbview').
> 
> My issue is strange in that the visor works once in a
> while, but when it does and how and why seem to be
> completly random. For example, this morning I pushed
> the hotsynch button and typed in pilot-xfer -p
> /dev/ttyUSB1 -l and I got a listing of the files.  A
> few minutes later, I repeated it and got the same
> result.  I then managed to do a KPilot backup, no
> problem.
> 
> However, about ten minutes after that, I attempted to
> synch up again and it failed.  I had made no changes
> whatsoever to the system.  I double checked to make
> sure I'd killed the Kpilot daemon in case it was
> confusing things.  No go.  I rebooted the computer to
> get to the 'clean' state that I had the first time I
> tried to synch up.  No go.
> 
> The system recognizes the visor as seen in 'usbview'
> (shows my scanner, printer, and visor).  It doesnt see
> it until I press the hotsynch button and it 'creates'
> the device, but I understand that's normal.
> 
> When I do a pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l I get the
> following responses:
> 
> $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l
> 
>Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1
> 
>Please press the HotSync button now...
>Error accepting data on /dev/ttyUSB1
> 
> /var/log/messages
> 
> Apr  3 23:39:45 dragon kernel: hub.c: new USB device
> 00:02.0-2.1, assigned address 6
> Apr  3 23:39:45 dragon kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring
> Visor / Treo / Palm 4.0 / Cli? 4.x converter detected
> Apr  3 23:39:45 dragon kernel: visor.c: Handspring
> Visor / Treo / Palm 4.0 / Cli? 4.x: Number of ports: 2
> Apr  3 23:39:45 dragon kernel: visor.c: Handspring
> Visor / Treo / Palm 4.0 / Cli? 4.x: port 1, is for
> Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0
> Apr  3 23:39:45 dragon kernel: visor.c: Handspring
> Visor / Treo / Palm 4.0 / Cli? 4.x: port 2, is for
> HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1
> Apr  3 23:39:45 dragon kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring
> Visor / Treo / Palm 4.0 / Cli? 4.x converter now
> attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs)
> Apr  3 23:39:45 dragon kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring
> Visor / Treo / Palm 4.0 / Cli? 4.x converter now
> attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs)
> Apr  3 23:40:16 dragon kernel: visor.c: Bytes In = 276
>  Bytes Out = 0
> ^[`Apr  3 23:40:38 dragon kernel: usb.c: USB
> disconnect on device 00:02.0-2.1 address 6
> Apr  3 23:40:38 dragon kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring
> Visor / Treo / Palm 4.0 / Cli? 4.x converter now
> disconnected from ttyUSB0
> Apr  3 23:40:38 dragon kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring
> Visor / Treo / Palm 4.0 / Cli? 4.x converter now
> disconnected from ttyUSB1
> 
> Modules are installed (lsmod)
> Module  Size  Used byTainted: P
> nvidia   1964192   6  (autoclean)
> visor  10560   0
> usbserial  16160   0  [visor]
> usb-ohci   16192   0  (unused)
> usbcore54944   1  [visor usbserial
> usb-ohci]
> emu10k151360   0
> ac97_codec 12032   0  [emu10k1]
> 8139too11744   1
> mii 2384   0  [8139too]
> crc32   2832   0  [8139too]
> 
> 
> Here's a confusing thing to throw in: I have attempted
> this on two computers with the same kernel. I get the
> same issues on both machines.  That partially leads me
> to think that something is up with the Visor itself,
> but it HAS synched on a handful of occasions, and it
> always synchs on my Windows OS, so I'm hesitant to say
> that somethings up with the Visor itself.
> 
> For the record I have used /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/pilot,
> /dev/visor, etc.
> 
> I'm sort of lost as to where to go from here, thus any
> advice peop

Re: Upgraidng to 'testing'

[Paul Johnson]

jack kinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I started off with 'stable' and a dial-up modem. Now I have upgraded to
> broadband. The idea was to have faster download to assist in upgrading to
> 'testing'. The trouble is that 'stable' only works with dial-up. INow I have
> 'stable' and broadband but cannot upgrade to 'testing'.

Stable doesn't only work with dialup...if you can connect to it with
ethernet, it should Just Work.

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Re: Disk speed on different partitions (was: Re: ext2/ext3/vfat on laptop vs. desktop)

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya stefan

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, Stefan Goessling-Reisemann wrote:

> Question1 : could this be related to the position of the partition on the
> disk? 

yup

> How could I verify this?

wite a block of data to certain cylinders starting from cylinder-0
to cylinder 10,000 ... ( be aware of the zone boundries of ZBR )
- thruput should be the same within the zone

> Is the hda2 partition always directly
> adjacent to the hda1 partition?

no .. partitions can start and end anywhere, as long as it doesnt overlap

> Question2 : Why does this not happen on my Desktop?

laptop drives are smaller diameter than regular ide disks on your desktop

c ya
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Re: [Fwd: Re: ext3 journal problem]

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On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 12:12:00AM -0500, Marvin Stodolsky wrote:
>  Thanks all
> 
> After turning off the journal with
>   tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/sda2
> e2fsck reported bad superblocks

...all of them? You can specify alternative superblocks with the -b
option; there are usually several.

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Re: Compiling kernel

[Roberto Sanchez]

S.D.A. wrote:
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 05:43:39PM -0400 or thereabouts, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

Werner Mahr wrote:


Or shorter: make dep bzImage modules modules_install This will make the Steps
one by one, and if one fails the other will fail also.
The Debian way is much easier:

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html


This doesn't resolve for me -- Is there another URL perhaps?
It's there.  SourceForge's nameservers have been a bit flaky today.

-Roberto Sanchez


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Re: 2.6 kernel install, lilo problems in sarge (?)

[Roberto Sanchez]

Michael Bonert wrote:
I'm having some probs with lilo:

# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.4_cobalamin.1.0_i386.deb# install of a custom kernel
===
{SNIP}
You already have a LILO configuration in /etc/lilo.conf
Install a boot block using the existing /etc/lilo.conf? [Yes] yes
Testing lilo.conf ...
An error occurred while running lilo in test mode, a log is
available in /var/log/lilo_log.15223. Please edit /etc/lilo.conf
manually and re-run lilo, or make other arrangements to boot
your machine.
 Please hit return to continue
cobalamin:/usr/local/src#
==
cobalamin:/var/log# more lilo_log.15223
Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.
Name change: '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' -> '/dev/hda'
Fatal: open /initrd.img: No such file or directory
cobalamin:/var/log#
===
Last time I saw this, it was because the running kernel was
configured with DEVFS and the devfsd package was not installed.
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Re: [OT]Europe Supports Antitrust Ruling Against Microsoft

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 08:22:52PM +, Pigeon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 08:25:48AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/15/business/16CND-TECH.html?hp
> 
> Arrgh. www.nytimes.com is one of those FOUL sites which requires you
> to enter full details of any motoring convictions you have, your
> family tree back to great-great-great-grandparents and how many times
> a week you masturbate before it lets you read anything. Any chance of
> posting a [link to a] summary?

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why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Dan Jacobson]

Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?
Why can't it just stick with a neutral "Taiwan".
Why single out a geographical name and append a political statement to it?
Sticks out and looks kind of silly.
Who cares what the two governments' official names for Taiwan are.
Why thrust Debian into politics, where there was no big problem
before?  Anything more neutral than just "Taiwan"?  I'm all ears.
Oh great, poison energetic free software enthusiasts with politics.
How am I going to explain to folks here in Taiwan that that is just a
superficial or temporary part of Debian, or doesn't represent the view
of all of Debian?
Oh great, just after we moved everybody over from Redhat because of
the flag issue.

Anyway, my buddy Andrew Lee sent me this for me to proofread, but
instead I felt I'll just post it more widely for him, (naturally
before researching the issue further :-))

Hi Dan,

I don't know have you heard about the Debian-installer use China replace
Taiwan for the menu of language chooser, I felt it's such a Discrimination
Against us. Here I want to speak up on the Debian list, before I speak up,
I hope you can readjust my point of view to be more fairly to both side.

Thanks in advance.

Here is the mail:
Hi Herbert Xu,

I read your message from:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/debian-boot-200404/msg00342.html

Please do not say it'd be much better if you didn't use Debian at all to
anybody. Debian is a free software and it is likely everyone can use it
with freedom. It would be in doubt if Debian is not allowed to be use at
all. As we all in the group of Debian developer and understand how it was
been use for all this days.

Debian is free for everyone, and it should be No Discrimination Against
Persons or Groups. I respect you are a Debian developer, but I am wishing
you have same equally respect to other Debian users, contributers and
developers.

However, there is no rules against us to continue us using Debian software
for such uncertain law.

I heard of that Debian-installer choose a list of ISO-3166 codes for list
contry names during installation, I felt the decision are quite wrong,
even you guys calling it's "most official" and don't want to face to the
truth, the truth are always still only one there.

My dad and my mum are both migrate from mainland China a half century ago,
and I was born in Taiwan, and I am living in Taiwan, my country is
officially naming "Republic of China" however it was and however it will,
I can not change it myself how could you a foreigner do?

[ Taiwan Linux Users Group ]
Andrew Leehttp://wiki.debian.org.tw
Winkler Partners  http://www.winklerpartners.com
My [EMAIL PROTECTED]: +886 2 2311 2345cell: +886 968749 055
Wild at Heart Legal Defense Association  http://ecosophy.org


More from me, Dan Jacobson: next thing you know, we'll need a
non-China in addition to non-US.  I'm big on standards:
http://jidanni.org/lang/pinyin/ , but what if Debian appended
statements to each land like that?  What, will Debian lose some
"contracts"?

Maybe there could be a political-correctness package that could adjust
Debian for use in each country as needed. But apparently they are
talking about names one sees before even installing.


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2.6 kernel install, lilo problems in sarge (?)

[Michael Bonert]

I'm having some probs with lilo:


# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.4_cobalamin.1.0_i386.deb# install of a custom kernel
===
{SNIP}
You already have a LILO configuration in /etc/lilo.conf
Install a boot block using the existing /etc/lilo.conf? [Yes] yes
Testing lilo.conf ...
An error occurred while running lilo in test mode, a log is
available in /var/log/lilo_log.15223. Please edit /etc/lilo.conf
manually and re-run lilo, or make other arrangements to boot
your machine.
 Please hit return to continue

cobalamin:/usr/local/src#
==

cobalamin:/var/log# more lilo_log.15223
Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.
Name change: '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' -> '/dev/hda'
Fatal: open /initrd.img: No such file or directory
cobalamin:/var/log#
===

After searching the web I found this:
http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2003-07/0122.html

and this:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200312/msg06152.html

Both touch on the subject... neither really clarify it for me.

I'm running testing (sarge) on a Toshiba A20... and trying to install
a build of the 2.6.4 kernel.

-
I mucked around with the 'devfs' option in menuconfig--compiled with &
compiled without.

I don't understand why it doesn't work.  I've compiled and installed
a couple of 2.6 series kernels on a Debian 'Sid' system in the past
without any problems.

QUESTIONS:
Does lilo (in the testing distribution) require (the obsolete) devfs?
Do I need to #apt-get install devfsd ???


Any help would be much appreciated...
Michael


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OUTLINE OF MY KERNEL COMPILE / INSTALLATION

# apt-get install libstdc++5-3.3-dev
# apt-get install libncurses5-dev

# apt-get install kernel-package fakeroot
# apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.4

# apt-get install module-init-tools # THIS SHOULD GET RID OF THOSE
'/depmod' MESSAGES

# apt-get install gcc
# apt-get install g++-2.95

# cd /usr/src
# bzip2 -d kernel-source-2.6.4.tar.bz2


$ cd /usr/local/src
# su
# chmod o=rwx .
$ tar xf /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.4.tar

ZIP UP THE PACKAGE AGAIN (now that we've got a copy in /usr/local/src)
# cd /usr/src
# bzip2 kernel-source-2.6.4.tar

$ cd /usr/local/src/kernel-source-2.6.4
$ vi Makefile
CHANGED
--- 
HOSTCC  = gcc
HOSTCXX = g++



CC  = $(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc
--- 

TO
--- 
HOSTCC  = gcc-2.95
HOSTCXX = g++-2.95



CC  = $(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc-2.95
--- 

(Linus says to use gcc 2.95.3)

$ make menuconfig # edit some stuff here
$ make-kpkg clean
$ script -a cobalamin.1.0-compile-log.txt
$ fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=cobalamin.1.0 kernel_image

$ cd /usr/local/src
$ su
# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.4_cobalamin.1.0_i386.deb # installing 2.6.4


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Re: Compiling kernel

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 05:43:39PM -0400 or thereabouts, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Werner Mahr wrote:

> >Or shorter: make dep bzImage modules modules_install This will make the Steps
> >one by one, and if one fails the other will fail also.
> >
> 
> The Debian way is much easier:
> 
> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html


This doesn't resolve for me -- Is there another URL perhaps?
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Re: Next stable release: 13 CD's

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 02:35:08PM -0500, Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That 
> > just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called 
> > "third" world) from downloading them and will I ever see the set if I 
> > "order" them in Mexico by mail?
> 
> The next stable release will also include CD images of the following
> sizes:
> 
> 3 mb (download rest of installer and debian from net)
> 36 mb (download debian from net)
> 109 mb (includes full debian base system)
> 
> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Is there / will there be a floppy-based installation option?  Obviously
not a full installer, but something which can boot the target system and
bootstrap the remaining installation from there?

Granted, my current preferred method is 

debootstrap   

...from a booted Knoppix system.  But for legacy hardware with floppy
and a network link (eth, PLIP, SLIP, foo), useful.


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Re: Need a working /etc/gdm/Sessions/KDE file, mine got hosed when apt-get updated (Sid)

[Joseph Jones]

Michael Biebl wrote:
Joseph Jones wrote:

If anyone can paste their KDE Session file for Sid into an e-mail, I'd 
much appreciate it. Mine exists, but GDM is conveniently ignoring it 
for some reason.

Joe


Hi Joe,

there was already a discussion on the german debian user mailinglist 
regarding the same problem.
Michael
Many thanks :) Feels good to be back in KDE :)

Joe

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Re: Debian WiFi card recomendations please

[Ryan Nowakowski]

For linux compatibility with 802.11 a or g chipsets, check out:

http://prism54.org/supported_cards.php

On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 02:45:30AM +0100, Ben Edwards (lists) wrote:
> I am sure I have asked this before but got no response.  I simply would
> like to know which 802.11 a or g cards work with minimum disruption to
> ones social life (i.e. easy as possible to set up).



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Re: Need a working /etc/gdm/Sessions/KDE file, mine got hosed when apt-get updated (Sid)

[Michael Biebl]

Joseph Jones wrote:
If anyone can paste their KDE Session file for Sid into an e-mail, I'd 
much appreciate it. Mine exists, but GDM is conveniently ignoring it for 
some reason.

Joe


Hi Joe,

there was already a discussion on the german debian user mailinglist
regarding the same problem.
The problem is that the way gdm handles its session entries has changed.
If you read the changelog for gdm you find further information, why this
was done.
The new entries have to be *.desktop files and reside either in
/etc/dm/Sessions, /etc/X11/Sessions or /usr/share/xsessions/.
So, a simple kde.desktop file could look like this:
===
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Type=XSession
Exec=startkde
TryExec=startkde
Name=KDE
Comment=The K Desktop Environment. A powerful Open Source graphical
desktop environment

Copy this file to one of the locations mentioned above and you're done.
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Re: Disk speed on different partitions (was: Re: ext2/ext3/vfat on laptop vs. desktop)

[Roberto Sanchez]

Stefan Goessling-Reisemann wrote:
 > Question2 : Why does this not happen on my Desktop? I also have a
Windows/vfat partition (at the beginning of the disk) and a Linux/ext3
partition somewhere else on the disk, but there is *no* difference in
disk I/O.
Is DMA enabled on your laptop?  When you upgraded kernels (if you
rolled your own) it is possible that you forgot to configure it
with "enable DMA by default."
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Re: How to create a *freezed* distribution of a debian mirror

[Ryan Nowakowski]

I use apt-mirror[1] to grab sid at a particular point in time and then use
that to install all my desktop machines.

[1] http://apt-mirror.sourceforge.net/

- Ryan

On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 06:56:39PM +0200, Bruno BEAUFILS wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I administer a bunch of hosts at work. I have something like 150 PC with 6
> servers. 
> 
> I install those PC with a bunch of hand-made script using ssh, rsync, debconf
> and a home made debian mirror. 
> 
> This mirror is updated every night. It is used for those PC but not only. Some
> others machines on our campus use it. So this mirror has to be a clean debian
> mirror.
> 
> Unfortunately I have to use sid on hosts (clients side) since my users need
> recent release of some software (KDE, and GNOME for instance).
> 
> At time t I am able to install properly all hosts. Sometime after, let's say
> time t+30 days, some changes have been made by my users and thus I need to
> reinstall all computers in the same state as in time t.
> 
> Unfortunately my debian mirror has changed since sid is unstable by nature.
> 
> So installation does not work anymore since some packages have changed a lot
> (last experience was with gdm for instance).
> 
> Is there anyway to keep a mirror of time t without having to duplicate it at
> that time ? Some kind of a customized distribution between sid and sarge ...
> 
> I thought about only copying Packages.gz from time t and creating a dumb
> debian repository including only Packages.gz with links in it to the real
> mirror. 
> 
> Of course my mirror script will have to keep all packages wich versions are
> used in that Packages.gz.



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Re: newbie: net install via wireless PC card?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 04:38:25PM -0500, Webster Kelsey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I am trying to install Debian (woody) on an old Thinkpad 560.  I have
> created the rescue, boot and drivers1-4 floppies.
> 
> My only means of loading stuff on to the laptop are the floppy drive and
> wireless card.  I would like to do a network install.  The problem is I
> can't get the system to recognize the card or install the drivers.
> 
> The wireless card is an ATMEL/RFMD chipset PCMCIA card.  How do I make the
> drivers avialable so I can do a newtork install of Debian 3.0?  Can I get
> the drivers to show up in the 'Configure Device Driver Modules' -> 'net'
> menu?

Hopefully useful to someone else if not you.

There are a few tricks to bootstrapping a laptop install:

  - If you have a CDROM:  Knoppix (or the Debian install disks).

  - An alternate PCMCIA card (borrowed for the duration of installation)
supporting local networking.

  - SLIP or PLIP:  IP over serial or parallel port.  Google for my own
comments on doing PLIP installation, particularly with IRQless
parallel ports.  This *won't* be a problem on your 560 AFAIK.  I
find this method to be highly usable.  Requires a null parallel
("laplink") or null serial cable.  You can bootstrap the
installation itself with Tom's Root Boot (aka tomsrtbt), a
floppy-based GNU/Linux.

  - Remove the HD and mount elsewhere for installation.  This requires a
disk caddy capable of handling your laptop HD.


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Re: Need a working /etc/gdm/Sessions/KDE file, mine got hosed when apt-get updated (Sid)

[Roberto Sanchez]

Joseph Jones wrote:
If anyone can paste their KDE Session file for Sid into an e-mail, I'd 
much appreciate it. Mine exists, but GDM is conveniently ignoring it for 
some reason.

Joe


GDM now reads session files out of /etc/dm/Sessions/

Here is mine for WindowMaker (it is called wmaker.desktop):

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
# The names/descriptions should really be better
Name=WindowMaker Session
Comment=This will start the WindowMaker window manager.
Exec=/usr/bin/WindowMaker
# The "default" Exec is a very special one and is handled specially in
# the Xsession script, you could also have "custom" which would just run
# "~/.xsession" directly
Icon=
Type=Application


That's all there is to it.

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Re: Compiling kernel

[Werner Mahr]

Am Sonntag, 4. April 2004 23:43 schrieb Roberto Sanchez:
> Werner Mahr wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 4. April 2004 20:04 schrieb Sebastiaan:
> >>Then it's a simple make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make
> >>modules_install
> >
> > Or shorter: make dep bzImage modules modules_install
> > This will make the Steps one by one, and if one fails the other will fail
> > also.
>
> The Debian way is much easier:
>
> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
>
> fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version= --revision=
> kernel_image kernel_headers
> dpkg -i ../kernel-image--__.deb
>
> That's it.  It will also automatically update lilo ar grub.
> It also leaves you a .deb that you can deploy to multiple
> machines.

I do it the Debian Way, but if Sebastiaan does it not the Debian Way, he can 
at least save to type && make 3 times.

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Re: Advice for setting up a file server

[Stefan Goessling-Reisemann]

Hello all!

Thank you all very much for your replies. I will try to heed your advice
and install the recommended packages.

Maybe more questions later ;-)

Greetings Stefan (debian @ goessling . de)


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Re: postalias: relocation error (was Postfix2.0.19-1 fails to install)

[Allan Wind]

On 2004-04-05T00:29:40+0300, Jokke Heikkilä wrote:
> postalias: relocation error: /usr/lib/libpostfix-util.so.1: undefined 
> symbol: db_version_4001

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ldd /usr/sbin/postalias
libpostfix-global.so.1 => /usr/lib/libpostfix-global.so.1 (0x40021000)
libpostfix-util.so.1 => /usr/lib/libpostfix-util.so.1 (0x4003f000)
libdb-4.1.so => /usr/lib/libdb-4.1.so (0x4005e000)
libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x4011f000)
libresolv.so.2 => /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x40134000)
libgdbm_compat.so.3 => /usr/lib/libgdbm_compat.so.3 (0x40146000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40149000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4027c000)
libgdbm.so.3 => /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3 (0x4027f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

Do you have this one installed?

ii  libdb4.1   4.1.25-17  Berkeley v4.1 Database Libraries
[runtime]


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kmod aliases

[ms419]

Where does Debian recommend putting network driver kernel module 
aliases for kmod (eg. alias eth0  8139too)? Should they all go in 
"/etc/modutils/aliases"? Or in a separate file, like 
"/etc/modutils/net"? Or each in its own file: "/etc/modutils/eth0", et 
cetera ... Or even something else? What is good form?

Thanks!

Jack

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Disk speed on different partitions (was: Re: ext2/ext3/vfat on laptop vs. desktop)

[Stefan Goessling-Reisemann]

2nd try. With attachments.

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Micha Feigin wrote:

> > After I switched to ext3 on my installation partition (Acer TM 803, Debian
> > stable/testing, based on Knoppix 3.2, heavily upgraded, kernel 2.4.24) I
> > noticed a severe performance loss. Actually, the system suddenly felt
> > quite sluggish (especially during start-up). I did some hdparm -t runs and
> > discoverd that the transfer rate had dropped to around 12.9 MB/s from
> > around 20 MB/s. That is a 30 % drop! I cross-checked with my desktop
> > installation (basically the same setup, but of course very different
> > hardware) and I only noticed (if at all) a drop in transfer rate of about
> > 1 or 2 percent between ext3 and ext2. Also, the vfat partition on the
> > laptop delivers the good old 20 MB/s as did the ext2 partition. On the
> > desktop there is also only a small difference between vfat and ext3.
> >
> > Any ideas why this happened? And yes, I have enabled DMA and manually
> > switched to UDMA 5 on all concerned drives.
> > Should I go back to ext2?
> >

Well, actually I went back to ext2 and only to find out: that was not the
reason for the disk to behave slowly. I have tried to locate the real
reason, but with not much success so far. I also tried to follow Micha'a
advice and did some testing:

>
> Try running top in parallel to doing some heavy disk activity but
> something that is supposed to be low on memory (try moving a bunch of
> files around) and check the cpu load (or anything else that can show
> you cpu load).

I used the bonnie++ benchmark program. The results (in html) are attached.
The difference in sequential reads is apparent: 16771 K/sec for the
Windows partition (vfat) as opposed to only 12176 K/sec for the Linux/ext2
partition. That's a 25% difference.

Question1 : could this be related to the position of the partition on the
disk? How could I verify this? Is the hda2 partition always directly
adjacent to the hda1 partition? I have re-partitioned the disk sometime in
the past (before I noticed the performance loss). Maybe the Linux
partition got (unintentionally) moved to the end of the disk?

Question2 : Why does this not happen on my Desktop? I also have a
Windows/vfat partition (at the beginning of the disk) and a Linux/ext3
partition somewhere else on the disk, but there is *no* difference in
disk I/O.

I am at a loss. Any help?
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postalias: relocation error (was Postfix2.0.19-1 fails to install)

[Jokke Heikkilä]

I'm still stumbled as what is going on with my postfix install. I tried 
the 2.0.18-1 package from snapshots, but the same problem persist, so 
its not in the package I would think. The install script will fail 
while it tries to create the aliases.db. The called postalias command 
will spit out

postalias: relocation error: /usr/lib/libpostfix-util.so.1: undefined 
symbol: db_version_4001

I'm running just dist-upgraded unstable, and everything else has been 
pretty smooth. Please share if you have any ideas, since I'm not very 
deep with debian/linux knowledge and I need postfix running. Below is 
strace of postalias command run from commadn line.

thanks,

jokke h.



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tahko:/etc# strace postalias aliases
execve("/usr/sbin/postalias", ["postalias", "aliases"], [/* 15 vars 
*/]) = 0
uname({sys="Linux", node="tahko", ...}) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x804b52c
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, 
-1, 0) = 0x40017000
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)  = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=18764, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 18764, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40018000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/usr/lib/libpostfix-global.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 \215\0"..., 
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=133604, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 12, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 
0x4001d000
old_mmap(0x4003c000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
3, 0x1f000) = 0x4003c000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/usr/lib/libpostfix-util.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0p\\\0\000"..., 
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=126544, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 130576, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 
0x4003e000
old_mmap(0x4005c000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
3, 0x1e000) = 0x4005c000
old_mmap(0x4005d000, 3600, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4005d000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/usr/local/bdb/lib/libdb-4.1.so", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"..., 
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=703387, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 641072, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 
0x4005e000
old_mmap(0x400f9000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
3, 0x9a000) = 0x400f9000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/lib/libnsl.so.1", O_RDONLY)  = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\<\0\000"..., 
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=73484, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, 
-1, 0) = 0x400fb000
old_mmap(NULL, 84896, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 
0x400fc000
old_mmap(0x4010e000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
3, 0x11000) = 0x4010e000
old_mmap(0x4010f000, 7072, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4010f000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/lib/libresolv.so.2", O_RDONLY)   = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240)\0"..., 
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=64844, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 73640, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 
0x40111000
old_mmap(0x4012, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
3, 0xf000) = 0x4012
old_mmap(0x40121000, 8104, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40121000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\200^\1"..., 
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1244004, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 1254244, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 
0x40123000
old_mmap(0x4024b000, 32768, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x127000) = 0x4024b000
old_mmap(0x40253000, 9060, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40253000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/lib/libdl.so.2", O_RDONLY)   = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0p\34\0\000"..., 
512) = 512
fsta

Re: Compiling kernel

[Roberto Sanchez]

Werner Mahr wrote:
Am Sonntag, 4. April 2004 20:04 schrieb Sebastiaan:


Then it's a simple make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make
modules_install


Or shorter: make dep bzImage modules modules_install
This will make the Steps one by one, and if one fails the other will fail 
also.

The Debian way is much easier:

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version= --revision= 
kernel_image kernel_headers
dpkg -i ../kernel-image--__.deb

That's it.  It will also automatically update lilo ar grub.
It also leaves you a .deb that you can deploy to multiple
machines.
-Roberto Sanchez


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Need a working /etc/gdm/Sessions/KDE file, mine got hosed when apt-get updated (Sid)

[Joseph Jones]

If anyone can paste their KDE Session file for Sid into an e-mail, I'd 
much appreciate it. Mine exists, but GDM is conveniently ignoring it for 
some reason.

Joe

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Re: lookit does not start on bootup

[dircha]

Faheem Mitha wrote:
Dear People,

I have a minor but annoying problem with lokkit. It does not start at
bootup. The runlevel look normal eg.
etc/rc0.d/K99lokkit
etc/rc1.d/K99lokkit
etc/rc2.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc3.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc4.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc5.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc6.d/K99lokkit
but I get errors at bootup which don't appear to be captured to any
file so I can't reproduce them here. I can start it manually by
Chrestomanci:~# /etc/init.d/lokkit start
Starting basic firewall rules: lokkit.
I recall that lokkit never worked for me either. That prompted me just 
to learn how to use iptables manually, so I never figured out why lokkit 
was failing.

After bringing it up manually, try:
# iptables -L
to be sure that it isn't just failing and suppressing the output, or 
failing and redirecting the ouput elsewhere.

If the rules are being loaded when you bring it up manually, it's really 
hard to say what the problem might be, which is why I suspect it is just 
silently failing.

If you could copy to the list the output of "$ ls /etc/rc*.d", "$ cat 
/etc/modules", "# iptables -L", "$ lsmod", and the contents of the rules 
script generated by lokkit, I could get a better idea of what is going 
on. At least these are the places I would look if I were going about 
diagnosing the problem on one of my own systems.

My hunch is that if it is silently failing when you bring it up 
manually, that the problem is that there are kernel modules not being 
loaded which are needed by iptables.

dircha

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Promise MBFastTrak133

[Linux Nick]

Is there a command to list
the drives attached (not mounted) to the system?

Cause I didn't see anything
listed on bootup for my expansion card, and I have both promise things listed
in the kernel and compiled in. It is built onto the mobo
and it is a 

 

MBFastTrak133

 

The drives show up when it boots as it detects them, but I
cant see anything in linux as it boots saying it found them. I also have
a promise Ultra133TX2 and it works fine, this one is built onboard and cant
find any help besides what to do in suse or redhat, im running kernel 2.4.25, I
would think it is supported.  

 

Here is my dmesg for the drives it does find…..

 

    kernel: PDC20276: IDE controller at PCI
slot 00:06.0

    kernel: PDC20276: chipset revision 1

    kernel: PDC20276: not 100%% native mode:
will probe irqs later

    kernel: PDC20276: neither IDE port
enabled (BIOS)

    kernel: PDC20269: IDE controller at PCI
slot 00:0e.0

    kernel: PDC20269: chipset revision 2

    kernel: PDC20269: not 100%% native mode:
will probe irqs later

    kernel: ide2:
BM-DMA at 0x7800-0x7807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio

    kernel: ide3:
BM-DMA at 0x7808-0x780f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio

    kernel: hda: MAXTOR 6L040J2, ATA DISK
drive

    kernel: hdb: _NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A, ATAPI
CD/DVD-ROM drive

    kernel: hdc: WDC WD1600JB-32EVA0, ATA
DISK drive

    kernel: hde: WDC WD2500JB-32FUA0, ATA
DISK drive

    kernel: hdf: WDC WD2500JB-32FUA0, ATA
DISK drive

    kernel: blk: queue c033d878, I/O limit
4095Mb (mask 0x)

    kernel: blk: queue c033d9c0, I/O limit
4095Mb (mask 0x)

    kernel: hdg: WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0, ATA
DISK drive

    kernel: hdh: WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0, ATA
DISK drive

    kernel: blk: queue c033dce4, I/O limit
4095Mb (mask 0x)

    kernel: blk: queue c033de2c, I/O limit
4095Mb (mask 0x)

 

hde, hdf, hdg, and hdh are on the promise card that are working, any ideas
on how to get that other built on expansion promise card to work?

 

Thanks for any and all responses

 

Nick

Solution: Re: Problems getting D-Link DFE-530TX+ working

[Steven Luke]

From Bob Proulx

I cannot think of any reason changing kernels would affect the
installation of the X server which is in the xserver-xfree86 package.
 

I guess that what steef had said, that since I had been using the 
security packages with the bf24
install there might have been an error getting XServer.  Since the 
default install didn't have a
working eth0 card, I couldn't get to the security packages and had no 
problem installing.

Anyway...

Try this:

 apt-get install x-window-system-core xterm

Did this, worked great, everything was downloaded and installed.  Thanks :)

... Without getting into a window
manager debate, KDE is one option.  ...  Put this in your /etc/apt/sources.list file 
and you can install kde 3.2 from kde.org.  Or change that to 3.1.4 if you desire the 
more tested version...
 deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main

Then:

 apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase kdeaddons kdeartwork kdeutils kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdetoys kdm

Again, this worked great!  I used 3.1.4 and really think it looks nice.  
Thanks so much for the
great response and quit time as well :)

So to sum up, I now have the bf24 install, with ethernet card working 
(no additional setup
required) and with XWindows and KDE installed as per Bob's instructions.

Steve

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Re: lookit does not start on bootup

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Faheem Mitha wrote:
Dear People,

I have a minor but annoying problem with lokkit. It does not start at
bootup. The runlevel look normal eg.
etc/rc0.d/K99lokkit
etc/rc1.d/K99lokkit
etc/rc2.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc3.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc4.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc5.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc6.d/K99lokkit
but I get errors at bootup which don't appear to be captured to any
file so I can't reproduce them here. I can start it manually by
But they say why it won't start. What do they say?



Chrestomanci:~# /etc/init.d/lokkit start
Starting basic firewall rules: lokkit.
I reported this as

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=219686

but did not get a response.

Is anybody else seeing this problem?

Thanks in advance.

   Faheem.




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Re: canon_camera: problem downloading pictures to de hd

[Wayne Topa]

steef([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> hi out there,
> 
> please help me with the following [possible] problem:
> 
> after some googling and apt-cache search etc.  etc. i could not find 
> debian software that allows me to download pictures to my harddisk from 
> my < canon eos 300D digital camera >.
> 
> well..., i guess [and I hope] i missed something, allthough i know that 
> these companies focus on windows software.
> 
> please, can anybody help me out with the appropriate debian software in 
> this matter?
> 

digikam handles your Cannon EOS 500D in 2 different modes.

Install it, and all of its depends, and you should be in business.

Wayne

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Re: Compiling kernel

[Werner Mahr]

Am Sonntag, 4. April 2004 20:04 schrieb Sebastiaan:

> Then it's a simple make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make
> modules_install

Or shorter: make dep bzImage modules modules_install
This will make the Steps one by one, and if one fails the other will fail 
also.

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Re: canon_camera: problem downloading pictures to de hd

[Michael Biebl]

steef wrote:
hi out there,

please help me with the following [possible] problem:

after some googling and apt-cache search etc.  etc. i could not find 
debian software that allows me to download pictures to my harddisk from 
my < canon eos 300D digital camera >.

well..., i guess [and I hope] i missed something, allthough i know that 
these companies focus on windows software.

please, can anybody help me out with the appropriate debian software in 
this matter?

thanx,

steef  

Hi Steef,

I think it is gphoto2 what you are searching for.
Install libgphoto2-2 and then one of those graphical frontends for it 
like digikam, gtkam or even gthumb.
This should be it already. Test it as root and it should work. If you 
want to access the digicam as nonroot, read
/usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/README.Debian for further instructions.

If you want it really comfortable use can use hotplug in conjunction 
with gnome-volume-manager/hal/udev. If you want more information on this 
topic you can search for Project utopia on google.
This is a rather advanced topic and also only works with kernel 2.6.
But once you have it all running it really shines.

Michael

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Re: canon_camera: problem downloading pictures to de hd

[steef]

Chad Davis wrote:

steef wrote:

hi out there,

please help me with the following [possible] problem:

after some googling and apt-cache search etc.  etc. i could not find 
debian software that allows me to download pictures to my harddisk 
from my < canon eos 300D digital camera >.

well..., i guess [and I hope] i missed something, allthough i know 
that these companies focus on windows software.

please, can anybody help me out with the appropriate debian software 
in this matter?

thanx,

steef 


Check out gphoto2 (www.gphoto2.org) debian package gphoto2.  It 
supports the 300D.  Gphoto will get the pictures directly from the 
camera. I however just use a compact flash card reader.

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thanks chad, i 'll give it a try.

steef

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which RAID tools?

[martin f krafft]

I had the impression that mdadm is the latest RAID management stuff
-- it's definitely got the better set of features. However, e.g.
mdrun(1), which comes with mdadm, reads 'obsolete'. On the other
hand, raidstart and raidstop of the raidtools2 package give me
kernel warnings about old ioctl calls that are not supported beyond
2.6.

So which toolset is the latest and the suggested one to use for
software RAIDs?

Thanks,

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Re: Problems getting D-Link DFE-530TX+ working ... among other things

[steef]

Steven Luke wrote:

I have been trying to install Debian (3.0) from ISOs I got off of the 
Debian site (I believe).
When I install Debian using the default option at the boot: prompt 
when the install process
begins, I can get through the entire boot process but eth0 is never 
recognized.   I had tried to use
the debconf configuration to recognize the eth0, but it doesn't work.  
I tried using the Linux
drivers made available by D-Link on their CD, and on their website, 
but when I compile it I get
the following two errors:
/linux/modversions.h: no file or directory.
/linux/malloc.h is depricated, use /linux/slab.h instead.
I can fix the second one by finding the line with the malloc.h include and
replacing it with slab.h, but the first error remains, and the driver 
will not compile.
Is there anywhere I can get a pre-compiled Debian driver for this 
ethernet adapter?  The file
is rtl8139.c for the D-Link DFE-530TX+.

On the other hand, if I install Debian using the bf24 option on the 
boot: prompt, the ethernet
card /is/ recognized, I can get updated packages via ftp, and can 
connect to servers from  other
computers.  But (there is always a but), I can not get the XServer 
installed.  In the TaskSel screen
the X Sever option never appears (though Desktop Environment does).  
It doesn't appear in the
dselect screens either.  If I install Gnome or KDE I get an error that 
it could not connect to the X
 Server, and when I ask it to show the Server output, there is none. 
(also, I can't get APT to
work in this install,but I haven't tried apt more than once...)

As far as I can tell, fixing either one of these problems would really 
help me out.  Can I get
the ethernet card to work with the default install type, or get X 
Server to work with the bf24
install?

Thanks for any help.

Steven Luke
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if you allowed during installation of bf24 debian security packages, and 
did after that ; there is a real  possibility that (a 
server-bug??) consequently the Xserver does not appear for install on 
the list given by tasksel. 

so you can install bf24 again  the security packages and  
the Xserver from tasksel, or, if you wish,  the security packages. 
in the last case install from the console screen after installation 'as 
root' xserver-xfree86 [ apt-get [-f] install xserver-xfree86, to begin 
with. ]

that worked for me when a couple of months ago for to me unknown reasons 
after installing the packagelist for security packages i could not find 
the xserver in tasksel. maybe you did the same ??

good luck,

steef

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Re: Error installing libgimp2.0 on Debian unstable

[hugo vanwoerkom]

Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote:
Hello,

When trying to upgrade my system today, I got this error when installing
libgimp2.0  (output from apt-get -f dist-install follows)
alpha:~# apt-get -f dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libgimp2.0
The following packages have been kept back:
  x-window-system-core
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
460 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/977kB of archives.
After unpacking 2626kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 107573 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libgimp2.0 (from .../libgimp2.0_2.0.0-4_alpha.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/libgimp2.0_2.0.0-4_alpha.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite
`/usr/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/gimp20-libgimp.mo', which is also in
package gimp-data


Rename this and do it again.

Hugo

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Re: offline apt howto

[dircha]

hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
I find references to such document, but cannot find it.

Anyone knows where it might exist?
package: apt-howto-[language prefix]

e.g.:
$ apt-cache search apt-howto
# apt-get install apt-howto-en
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Re: Compiling kernel

[hugo vanwoerkom]

Michael Satterwhite wrote:
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I've been looking at the documentation for compiling the kernel, and something 
seems missing to me.

There is ample documentation on configuring the kernel, but I don't see the 
issue of the starting point addressed anywhere. It seems to be assumed that 
if you're going to compile the kernel, then you want to individually visit 
every configuration parameter and make a selection. There is good 
documentation everywhere on how to do this.

 If you have a working kernel, however, it seems far more logical to use its 
configuration as a starting point and make the changes relative to that. In 
SuSE, there are good instructions on getting this starting point, but I don't 
see anything like that in Debian. I *DO* see a config file in the /boot 
directory, but it is ambiguous (at best) as to whether this is the 
configuration for the running kernel. 

Being fair, when something is so pointedly not addressed, it usually means I 
should have known the answer without asking - but I'll admit to ignorance. 
Would someone be so kind as to point me at the place for the current config 
(probably the one in /boot, but this isn't something I want to take a chance 
on) for a starting point?

It is the starting point. Is in fact the config for the running kernel.
You can use it for a future kernel too. When you run make-kpkg and are 
using it, he will stop and prompt for a new kernel parameter that now 
exists, so you know what the new ones are.

E.g. I roll my own kernel because I use multi-seat Linux, 
Backstreet-Ruby. So they came out with a 2.4.25 patch while I was using 
2.4.23. So I put the 2.4.23 .config into the 2.4.25 dir. and just ran 
"make-kpkg --revision 1 kernel_image" and he prompted for all the new 
2.4.25 parms. I forgot now what they were but all support for new 
hardware that I don't have so I could answer "N" to all(the default). 
Then he created a .deb file in /usr/src that is the new kernel image. 
You just dpkg -i that and you got yourself a new kernel you can boot.

Hugo

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Re: offline apt howto

[Bob Proulx]

hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
> I find references to such document, but cannot find it.
> Anyone knows where it might exist?

I think you are looking for apt-zip?

 apt-cache show apt-zip

 These scripts simplify the process of using dselect and apt on a
 non-networked Debian box, using removable media like ZIP floppies.
 One generates a `fetch' script (supporting backends such as wget and
 lftp, in a modular, extensible way) to be run on a host with better
 connectivity, check space constraints of your removable media, and
 then install the package on your Debian box.

Bob


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Re: Problems getting D-Link DFE-530TX+ working ... among other things

[Bob Proulx]

Steven Luke wrote:
> I have been trying to install Debian (3.0) from ISOs I got off of
> [...]
> I can get through the entire boot process but eth0 is never
> recognized.

Debian 3.0 does not have any automatic hardware discovery program.
You have to tell it specifically what hardware your system contains.
The next version of Debian to release 'sarge' does include automatic
hardware discovery.  If you are adventurous you might try testing it.
But note that it is not yet released and is still under development.

> I had tried to use the debconf configuration to recognize the eth0,
> but it doesn't work.

You have to know where to look.  Page down to:

  kernel/drivers/netDrivers for network interface

Then select that and page down to:

  8139too   RealTek RTL-8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter support

Select that.  It should load the driver and place the name in
/etc/modules so that it is loaded automatically at boot thereafter.

> compile.  Is there anywhere I can get a pre-compiled Debian driver
> for this ethernet adapter?  The file is rtl8139.c for the D-Link
> DFE-530TX+.

The rtl8139 is Donald Becker's Driver.  A fine driver.  But the one
that made it into Linus' kernel tree for better or worse is the
8139too driver.  Since the RealTek is a popular and cheap low end
network card this is a common confusion.

> On the other hand, if I install Debian using the bf24 option on the

Oh!  I see now that you were not using the linux 2.4 kernel but were
using the linux 2.2 kernel.  What I said above applies to 2.4 and I
have forgotten all knowledge of the 2.2 kernel years ago.

> boot: prompt, the ethernet card is recognized, I can get updated
> packages via ftp, and can connect to servers from other computers.

The 8139too is compiled into the Debian bf24 kernel.  You can tell
this by looking at the config file for it.

  grep CONFIG_8139TOO= /boot/config-2.4.18-bf2.4

Since it is compiled into that kernel you do not need to add it as a
module.  And you can't load a module since when compiled into the
kernel no separate module is built.

> But (there is always a but), I can not get the XServer installed.

I cannot think of any reason changing kernels would affect the
installation of the X server which is in the xserver-xfree86 package.

> In the TaskSel screen the X Sever option never appears (though
> Desktop Environment does).  It doesn't appear in the dselect screens
> either.  If I install Gnome or KDE I get an error that it could not
> connect to the X Server, and when I ask it to show the Server
> output, there is none.  (also, I can't get APT to work in this
> install,but I haven't tried apt more than once...)

I will guess it is probably not being presented because it can't get a
list of packages from the network and so does not know about it.

> As far as I can tell, fixing either one of these problems would
> really help me out.  Can I get the ethernet card to work with the
> default install type, or get X Server to work with the bf24 install?

Try this:

  apt-get install x-window-system-core xterm

Then select your window manager.  Without getting into a window
manager debate, KDE is one option.  (I use FVWM myself.  But KDE seems
easier for new folk.)  If you are running stable then KDE there is
2.2.2.  I have been installing kde 3.1.4 from kde.org which was very
reliable.  kde.org recently released kde 3.2.  It is a little more
rough but good enough.  Put this in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
and you can install kde 3.2 from kde.org.  Or change that to 3.1.4 if
you desire the more tested version.  If you are running debian
unstable this is not needed since 3.2 is already in debian.org's
unstable.  This is only needed if you desire to use the backport to
stable.

  deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main

Then:

  apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase kdeaddons kdeartwork kdeutils kdemultimedia 
kdenetwork kdetoys kdm

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lookit does not start on bootup

[Faheem Mitha]

Dear People,

I have a minor but annoying problem with lokkit. It does not start at
bootup. The runlevel look normal eg.

etc/rc0.d/K99lokkit
etc/rc1.d/K99lokkit
etc/rc2.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc3.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc4.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc5.d/S01lokkit
etc/rc6.d/K99lokkit

but I get errors at bootup which don't appear to be captured to any
file so I can't reproduce them here. I can start it manually by

Chrestomanci:~# /etc/init.d/lokkit start
Starting basic firewall rules: lokkit.

I reported this as

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=219686

but did not get a response.

Is anybody else seeing this problem?

Thanks in advance.

   Faheem.


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canon_camera: problem downloading pictures to de hd

[steef]

hi out there,

please help me with the following [possible] problem:

after some googling and apt-cache search etc.  etc. i could not find 
debian software that allows me to download pictures to my harddisk from 
my < canon eos 300D digital camera >.

well..., i guess [and I hope] i missed something, allthough i know that 
these companies focus on windows software.

please, can anybody help me out with the appropriate debian software in 
this matter?

thanx,

steef   

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Re: Compiling kernel

[Michael Satterwhite]

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On Sunday 04 April 2004 13:36, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> You _could_ do this, but I recommend very highly compiling the kernel "the
> Debian way."  It takes care of all the little details missing any one of
> which might leave you with a hosed system!  I keep a file reminding me of
> the steps; here's its current contents:

Compiling the kernel was never the issue. The starting point for the 
configuration was. I do, however, thank you for your copy of this file. It 
does make sense to do it "the Debian way" as long as I'm running Debian. I'm 
learning, and I do thank those of you who have helped. I appreciate your 
feedback more than you know.

- ---Michael
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