Re: DRI and tuxracer ok, flightgear and torcs slow
On Thursday 15 April 2004 15:30, James Vahn wrote: Hi, > Having the same trouble here with Flightgear too, just last week it > began running at 1 FPS. I strongly suspect "xlibmesa-gl" but that's > just a guess. I've been running Sarge all along, the problem seems > to have started about 2 weeks ago. can you tell, what kind of facts make xlibmesa-gl suspicious to cause the flaw. Do you get an acceptable frame rate with glxgears? Thanks, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DRI and tuxracer ok, flightgear and torcs slow
On Thursday 15 April 2004 17:38, Chris Metzler wrote: Hi, > I dunno, but I've been wondering too. Ever since I upgraded from > X 4.2 to 4.3, my OpenGL performance has gone into the toilet. I > used to be able to play bzflag normally; since I upgraded to 4.3, > I've had to lower many graphics parameter preferences for bzflag > for it to be useable at all. I would file a bug if I had any > clue what package to file it against; and I haven't had the time > to do the investigating to find out which. > > -c > > P.S. I have a Matrox G550; so if we're experiencing the same > problem (and it does sound the same), it's more likely to be in > the GL libraries or general DRI modules than in video card drivers. I am not sure, whether we experience the same problem. My glxgears performance is quite nice. As far as I can see, this is a simple benchmark for raw OpenGL performance. Nethertheless torcs or flightgear don't perform. Cheers, Thomas pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: scanner setup
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 09:25:18PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am running woody and i have kernel 2.6.5 compiled. > i would like to make my scanner work. it is a "Mustek 1200 UB plus". > i installed "xsane, sane, libsane, sane-utils" through apt-get. > when i run xsane it shows as device only /dev/video0 which is my webcam. > the scanner it is USB. also i did: > debian:~# insmod scanner > insmod: can't read 'scanner': No such file or directory > debian:~# > any ideas? > You must to modprobe scanner, better than insmod. I think you will need to files /etc/sane.d/xxx.conf, where xxx depends on your scanner manufacturer and model. It may bo interesting to you to take a look at this: http://cayfer.bilkent.edu.tr/~cayfer/inst_scanner/scanner.html -- --- Alberto Cabello Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Message is frozen ???
At 02:16 PM 4/19/04, Bill Moseley wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 02:07:29PM +0800, Support wrote: > Hi! Debian Users > > What is the meaning of Message is frozen in Exim. When I type mailq it show > me > > 4d 1.8K 1BDw0f-0001R5-00 <> *** frozen *** > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 3d 1.7K 1BEHNb-00022r-00 <> *** frozen *** > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 3d 1.7K 1BEHNb-00022s-00 <> *** frozen *** > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > What does it means ? Means it's time to do a google search. A message is frozen when there's something wrong with it -- e.g. you receive a messages, can't deliver it and can't bounce it. man exim shows how to remove those messages. The exim spec also discusses dealing with frozen messages. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank Bill .. thank for your info ... Best Regards, Support -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Message is frozen ???
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 02:07:29PM +0800, Support wrote: > Hi! Debian Users > > What is the meaning of Message is frozen in Exim. When I type mailq it show > me > > 4d 1.8K 1BDw0f-0001R5-00 <> *** frozen *** > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 3d 1.7K 1BEHNb-00022r-00 <> *** frozen *** > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 3d 1.7K 1BEHNb-00022s-00 <> *** frozen *** > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > What does it means ? Means it's time to do a google search. A message is frozen when there's something wrong with it -- e.g. you receive a messages, can't deliver it and can't bounce it. man exim shows how to remove those messages. The exim spec also discusses dealing with frozen messages. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving from XP and looking for replacement programs
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 05:49:45PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote: > On 04/17/04 10:00, Penbrock wrote: > >I want to make the jump from XP to Debian with KDE. I have a few programs I > >am trying to find Linux replacements for and am having a hard time. Can > >anyone help me find replacements for these programs? ---SNIP--- > > Lexmark Z13 > > Canon i560 The canon i560 might be hard to do. I just installed debian, and my canon i865 was not supported. The other items on your list seems to have gotten a positive response. > > linux.debian.user is a read-only gateway from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] so very few saw your post. > > You can post without subscribing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > just read the newsgroup. It's what I do. > > I'm sure you'll get a response soon there. Also, try > http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages > > Good luck. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > good luck Nicolaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message is frozen ???
Hi! Debian Users What is the meaning of Message is frozen in Exim. When I type mailq it show me 4d 1.8K 1BDw0f-0001R5-00 <> *** frozen *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3d 1.7K 1BEHNb-00022r-00 <> *** frozen *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3d 1.7K 1BEHNb-00022s-00 <> *** frozen *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does it means ? Best Regards, Support -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Couldn't start console" in KDE or other Xwindow Manager
Check if you have /dev/pts and you have the permissions for them. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Aironet 350 Wireless and Kernel 2.6.5
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 10:38:37PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 10:13:34PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: > > When I plug in a Cisco 350 card the power light on the card does not > > come on. Cardmgr does detects the card, though: > > > > But iwconfig then shows to interfaces, and I cannot bring either up: > > > > eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"tsunami"++ > > > > wifi0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"tsunami"++ > > > > Why two interfaces with same data? > > Because that's how Cisco does things. Other cards do as well. I'm not very clear how that works -- when I insert the card cardmgr determines it's a network card from /etc/pcmcia/config. What decides what interface to use? When I was using wlan-ng drivers for a prism2 card it was wlan0, and now I'm using the orinco_cs driver and the same card now is eth1. And the Aironet card is "wifi0" an also "eth1". How's all that magic work? Is it the act of loading the module that determines the interface? Then cardmgr passes that interface to the /etc/pcmcia/network script. How does cardmgr know the assigned interface? So, any idea how to debug this problem with the airnet card? I just booted into my old 2.4.21 kernel and the Aironet card works fine. Thanks, -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stable vs. Testing Vs. Unstable
I use stable on my servers, and testing on my laptop, mostly because of the newer Xfree. I used to have unstable on my workstation when I had a faster connection, but now that I'm back on dialup, I try to update as little as possible and still have a working system. Although on the server, I do run som newer software (samba, ssh) from backports, so it's not a pure Debian stable system. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: distcc & dpkg-buildpackage
Thanks very much for the info. Spot on. I've now got it working. In addition to editing "debian/rule", I discovered using "CONCURRENCY_LEVEL" instead of "-j" is advised (necessary)? Jack On Apr 18, 2004, at 4:29 AM, Pigeon wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 10:17:58PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone successfully using "distcc" with "dpkg-buildpackage"? I tried: --- MAKE="make -j4" CC=distcc DISTCC_HOSTS="localhost kas" dpkg-buildpackage --- but "distcc" wasn't used : ( Frequently the package's build scripts will override anything you set for things like CC and CFLAGS. If the overriding takes place in debian/rules (most of the time it does), you can simply edit debian/rules before running dpkg-buildpackage. If it takes place in the actual Makefiles, though, either you've got to do a lot of tedious editing, or you can do something gross but functional like making /usr/bin/gcc a wrapper around the real compiler. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FIXED: Debian /etc/hosts Behavior
Thanks Jo! That should save me future problems. Jack On Apr 18, 2004, at 8:22 PM, Joey Hess wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm ... I am also running unstable; a fresh install. Fresh as fresh can be! I assumed that the installer had created this line - it asks for the hostname when configuring the network - but I'd have to do another installation to be sure. The installer does indeed create that line. In recent daily builds, we've changed things around to the more sane: 127.0.0.1 localhost hostname -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Aironet 350 Wireless and Kernel 2.6.5
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 10:13:34PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: > When I plug in a Cisco 350 card the power light on the card does not > come on. Cardmgr does detects the card, though: > > But iwconfig then shows to interfaces, and I cannot bring either up: > > eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"tsunami"++ > > wifi0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"tsunami"++ > > Why two interfaces with same data? Because that's how Cisco does things. Other cards do as well. > The ESSID shows "tsunami" -- Google turns up a lot with that name on > this card, so I assume is data from the card and not another access > point. Cisco's default ESSID is "tsunami". -- Marc Wilson | Tobacco is a filthy weed, That from the devil does [EMAIL PROTECTED] | proceed; It drains your purse, it burns your clothes, | And makes a chimney of your nose. -- B. Waterhouse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian /etc/hosts Behavior
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 11:22:36PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > The installer does indeed create that line. In recent daily builds, > we've changed things around to the more sane: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost hostname Hm... someone's assuming that d-i rather than the more normal boot-floppies is in use. -- Marc Wilson | Van Roy's Law: An unbreakable toy is useful for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | breaking other toys. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Cisco Aironet 350 Wireless and Kernel 2.6.5
I'm using kernel-image-2.6.5-1-686 on a Toshibia laptop and I can get one wireless card to work, but not the Airnet 350. It works with the old 2.4.21 kernel. Any ideas how to get it working? I can plug in a SMC2632W wireless card and it works. iwconfig reports: eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"WLAN" Nickname:"Prism I" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462GHz Access Point: 00:90:D1:01:0C:CC++ Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3++ Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:92/92 Signal level:-5 dBm Noise level:-149 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 When I plug in a Cisco 350 card the power light on the card does not come on. Cardmgr does detects the card, though: Apr 18 20:54:33 localhost cardmgr[929]: socket 1: 350 Series Wireless LAN Adapter Apr 18 20:54:33 localhost cardmgr[929]: executing: 'modprobe airo_cs' Apr 18 20:54:33 localhost kernel: airo: Probing for PCI adapters Apr 18 20:54:33 localhost kernel: airo: Finished probing for PCI adapters Apr 18 20:54:34 localhost kernel: airo: cmd= 111 Apr 18 20:54:34 localhost kernel: airo: status= 7f11 Apr 18 20:54:34 localhost kernel: airo: Rsp0= 2 Apr 18 20:54:34 localhost kernel: airo: Rsp1= 0 Apr 18 20:54:34 localhost kernel: airo: Rsp2= 0 Apr 18 20:54:34 localhost kernel: airo: Doing fast bap_reads Apr 18 20:54:34 localhost kernel: airo: MAC enabled eth1 0:9:7c:ae:5d:b0 Apr 18 20:54:34 localhost kernel: eth1: index 0x05: Vcc 5.0, Vpp 5.0, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x013f Apr 18 20:54:34 localhost cardmgr[929]: executing: './network start eth1' But iwconfig then shows to interfaces, and I cannot bring either up: eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"tsunami"++ Mode:Managed Frequency:2.442GHz Access Point: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF++ Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Sensitivity=0/65535++ Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:176/10 Signal level:-110 dBm Noise level:-110 dBm Rx invalid nwid:28 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:22 Missed beacon:0 wifi0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"tsunami"++ Mode:Managed Frequency:2.442GHz Access Point: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF++ Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Sensitivity=0/65535++ Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:176/10 Signal level:-110 dBm Noise level:-110 dBm Rx invalid nwid:28 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:22 Missed beacon:0 Why two interfaces with same data? The ESSID shows "tsunami" -- Google turns up a lot with that name on this card, so I assume is data from the card and not another access point. I did try: iwconfig eth1 essid WLAN (and wifi0, too) but didn't do anything. Any ideas what to check? -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the correct method to change mount point?
Current setup: swaphda1 /home hda2 / hda3 (based on this layout, /usr/local and /var should be on hda3?) I'll be installing another HDD (partitioned into hdb1 and hdb2). How should I go about changing the mount point for /var and /usr/local from hda3 to hdb1 and hdb2 respectively? Future setup: swaphda1 /home hda2 / hda3 /var hdb1 /usr/local hdb2 Thanks ! Message posted via www.linuxforums.org . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving from XP and looking for replacement programs
On 04/17/04 10:00, Penbrock wrote: >Creative PlayStation ( Used to rip audio CDs) cdrecord >Weather Bug (Local weather on the task bar) kweather >MailWasher (anti spam program) Lots. What kind of filtering do you want to do? Bayesian, rules-based, blacklist, server side, client side, etc. >Ad-aware (spy ware remover) Not needed. >Nero Burn (CD/DVD bruning program) cdrecord >Norton Anti-virus ( Is this even needed with Linux?) Not strictly needed, but there is a version of f-prot for linux that scans files for Windows viruses. > Soundblaster Audigy ALSA > Lexmark Z13 Not well supported under linux, but see http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z13 > Canon i560 Dunno. -- Dave Carrigan Seattle, WA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.rudedog.org/ | ICQ:161669680 UNIX-Apache-Perl-Linux-Firewalls-LDAP-C-C++-DNS-PalmOS-PostgreSQL-MySQL signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sendmail --> Exim howto?
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm about to convert a mail system from Sendmail to Exim. Anyone > know of a tutorial/HOWTO on the subject? I did a fairly extensive > web search and all I could find was someone on a mailing list > commenting on a great HOWTO that was no longer available. Well, I'm not sure there's a clean conversion. However, the exim documentation (http://www.exim.org/) is a great aide. eximconfig will run when you install exim, this will give you a good starting place. -- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel 2.6.5: Unable to mount root fs or unknown-block(0,0)
On 2004-04-18T23:16:38-0400, Adam Kessel wrote: > - I get the following kernel panic when trying to boot: > > Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) I believe this means that the kernel could not read the root file system. What file system are you using? I am quite sure that I got something similar when I tried to boot up 2.6.5 against an ext3 root file system but with a kernel without compiled support for it. /Allan -- Allan Wind P.O. Box 2022 Woburn, MA 01888-0022 USA signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: where are netboot ide-disk modules?
Michael West wrote: > I am installing debian on a system with no removable media. > I am netbooting the installation using pxe, dhcp, tftp. This works > fine and I can start the installation. However, the install cannot > access my harddisk because the ide-disk.o modules is not found. That > the module is needed is autodetected, but insmod module load failed so I > cannot access my harddrive. > > What is the solution to this? You don't say what version of debian you're trying to install, or what version of what installer you're using. Details? -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sendmail --> Exim howto?
At 2004-04-19T03:07:10Z, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm about to convert a mail system from Sendmail to Exim. Anyone know of > a tutorial/HOWTO on the subject? OK, I have to ask. If you have a running Sendmail installation, and you don't know Exim, then why are you converting to it? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to 'apt-cache search'&'apt-file search' by distribut
David Clymer wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 13:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What arguement should I use with 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-file search' to specific the distribution? Eg. If I want to search for source packages (or normal packages) in unstable distribution, what would the complete command for 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-file search'? AFAIK, you cant restrict your apt-cache search by branch. I think it just searches all package lists fetched from the sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list. However, if you know the package name, you can use apt-cache policy to see a list of all available packages (from all branches) with the specified name along with their versions, apt-get sources, and installation status. aptitude allows you to do this. Used as a command line tool (rather than in curses-gui mode) I find it to be a welcome improvement over apt-get for most uses. Following is a simple form to do what you want: 'aptitude search ~Astable~n' or, 'aptitude search ~Astable~d' ~A ~n ~d Read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for the full list of available search modifiers. dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel 2.6.5: Unable to mount root fs or unknown-block(0,0)
A couple of questions with respect to the Debian 2.6.5 kernel: - Why is there no longer an AMD K6 Debian kernel? It appears that only a K7 kernel is now built, which won't boot on my K6. - I get the following kernel panic when trying to boot: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) This error has been brought up on this list before[0] and elsewhere[1] with respect to the 2.6 kernel series, but none of the suggestions I've found have fixed the problem. I've also tried a vanilla kernel with the same result, and tried various kernel configurations as well. The system in question has a very standard IDE drive setup; grub properly creates the device map and boot options; the boot device is /dev/hda1. I've had no problems with the Debian 2.4 kernels. Can someone help me troubleshoot this? -- Adam Kessel http://adam.rosi-kessel.org [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200312/msg07712.html [1] e.g., http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2318 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian /etc/hosts Behavior
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hmm ... I am also running unstable; a fresh install. Fresh as fresh can > be! I assumed that the installer had created this line - it asks for > the hostname when configuring the network - but I'd have to do another > installation to be sure. The installer does indeed create that line. In recent daily builds, we've changed things around to the more sane: 127.0.0.1 localhost hostname -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
scanner setup
I am running woody and i have kernel 2.6.5 compiled. i would like to make my scanner work. it is a "Mustek 1200 UB plus". i installed "xsane, sane, libsane, sane-utils" through apt-get. when i run xsane it shows as device only /dev/video0 which is my webcam. the scanner it is USB. also i did: debian:~# insmod scanner insmod: can't read 'scanner': No such file or directory debian:~# any ideas? Msg sent via Spymac Mail - http://www.spymac.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
家庭PC办公室方案
debian-user:您好! 关键字：PC家庭办公 包月上网须知 闲置资源利用 广告收入大赚 送2亿邮址 送亿虎软件 送百款营销软件 免费为你群发邮件 免费登陆百家论坛 这里的宝藏埋的尚浅 这里有一份大可开发的网络商务宝藏http://www.rlly.com/new_page_115.htm 1、这是一份家庭PC办公室的工作方案，特别适合包月上网闲置资源的利用。有了这个可以连续工作的软件，http://www.rlly.com/new_page_61.htm计算机会忠实的按着您的指示工作。该方案利用了您睡觉和外出与女友散步时，闲置的宽带和COU资源，而获得劳务费的却是计算机的主人――您。由您来注册: 美二妹下网站：http://www.cashfiesta.com/php/join.php?ref=rlly4359182 美一妹下网站：http://www.spedia.net/cgi-bin/dir/tz.cgi?run=show_svc&fl=8&vid=3791441 正如关键词里所承诺的那样：消息群发由我站来做，您可将广告文件加入您的其他三 、两条业务，随之发出。接下来就是等待支票的飘然而至。 您的收入是：第二个月可赚2587.2元人民币。 第三个月就是2321美元。 2. 注册一个指定站点得1000点。此方法简捷有效，但大多数朋友由于不认识英文而错过了这个好机会。 当有Sign Up字样时，不要吝惜那几分钟时间，简单填一些表单，您就会发现自己的点数一下上涨了千余点！ 3.当你成为黄金会员(积聚黄金点gold points到133点)时,你的报酬将大大增加. 成为黄金会员的要求：得到黄金积分133分以上，得黄金积分的方法有： A.注册六个以上offer； B.每天使用其广告条半小时以上； C.每个月注册赚点1点以上； D.根据你的下线情况给你计算黄金积分等。 E.另外每个月根据你累积的点数， cashfiesta.com会有Bonus给你。如，点数在1和2之间,就可以得到额外的4000点,点数在3以上，则可以得到额外的7000点。 黄金会员的付费是：每小时600点，每100点付费0.16美元（每小时合0.96美圆）全负荷工作日/20小时（20×0.96＝19.2美圆≈日收147.84人民币）开三台电脑147.84×3＝日443.52人民币，月收人民币13305.6元。 其他的收入还有一大堆，在此免列，仅此一点足显灿烂。 占地 仅有十平方米斗室。 操作人员：两个初中生即可搞定的业务。 纯 收 入：年12万。 电脑配置：主机5000元，外加两个旧的低配置主机1000元。一台显示器即可。 总投资不到1万元，年纯收入12万。 由于这是位列网上广告公司的三甲之内的美国CashFiesta公司的一个双赢方案，所以为了我们的共同利益，我站免费送你2亿邮址和亿虎群发大师以更好的扩展我们的业绩。此后经常光顾我站会有更多的省钱、省时、快捷、方便的网络商务宣传方案，为您提供。 也许你不愿花费那几十分钟的时间你想读懂上文。哪麽请细阅下文。 进网站http://www.rlly.com/new_page_115.htm美; 妹二、 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 留言板：http://www.rlly.com/new_page_510.htm 来函时主题需著：“我已注册美二妹译文” 字样。 电话：0517-4916370或0411-84359182 美 妹二、 可20小时连续为你赚钱的好软件 第一个月可赚2587.2元人民币。 第三个月三个下线2321美元。 位列网上广告公司的三甲之内的美国CashFiesta公司，是美国加利福尼亚伯克利市的一家新兴的从事互联网广告业务的公司，现与实力雄厚的Explore Technologies及Inc公司合并, 服务没有使用时间限制.信誉绝对可靠！由于它位列网上广告公司的三甲之内，至今还没有网友投诉过！他的网址是: 美二妹下网站：http://www.cashfiesta.com/php/join.php?ref=rlly4359182即我们进行注册的地方。; 我们怎么样网上赚钱，其原理是什么？ 你所付出的是它的广告条占用了你本来就不大的（10%）屏幕，还有20小时不停的在线，美国公司获得的是，他的广告遍布全球，由于他的宣传作用销售额大增。这就是谁也没吃亏，谁也没讨便宜。原来是广告商买单，在国外这早就流行了。 做任何事情都得具备一个条件，网上赚钱也是一样你必须具备下列条件： 1、有一台属于你的计算机，无论是在家还是在公司只要这台计算机有管理就行。 2、需有一个准确的门牌号码也就是“通邮”当地邮递员可以依据你的地址把你的劳务费（国际通用的美圆支付方法――邮递支票）送交给你。 3、包月上网是调制解调器、SDN、或宽带都可以，但必须是包月的。再就是备有两个电子邮箱。 做任何事情都得具备一个条件，网上赚钱也是一样。 你必须具备下列条件： 1、有一台属于你的计算机，无论是在家还是在公司只要这台计算机有管理就行。 2、需有一个准确的门牌号码也就是“通邮”当地邮递员可以依据你的地址把你的劳务费（国际通用的美圆支付方法――邮递支票）送交给你。 3、包月上网是调制解调器、SDN、或宽带都可以，但必须是包月的。再就是备有两个电子邮箱。 我们的全部工作是（免费注册成功后）打开计算机点开广告条，他就会自动运行，你无须付出多余的劳动。 当然计算机也不能24小时的开着你总得让它休息一两个小时一天运行20小时总可以的。三 二个小时去看他一眼，久之你也能摸到不少别人都不知道的宝贵经验。 工作报酬计算： 1、美国cashfiesta公司每2分钟一组广告，每小时600点（理论数据是每小时600点，不同CPU也许有些出入我实地测算时/350点）每100点付费0.16美元（6×0.16每小时合0.96美圆）。一天按10个小时计, 9.6美元,折合人民币按约70元,这样您每个月就能拥有 2100元(人民币)。 2、实地测算时/350点若运行20小时得7000点 7000÷100×0.16＝86元人民币 86×30＝2587.2元人民币。 3、还有一种算法： 按其上网时间长短获得每小时0.6美元(注:最低标准)的报酬.20×0.6＝12美元×7.7＝日92.4元人民币。 4、满50美元即会付款。 5、介绍给别人，即发展下线，每一个会员可以发展8层下线， 从第一层获得15%的点数, 从第二层获得7% 的点数, 从第三层到第五层获得5%的点数, 从第六层获得3%的点数, 从第八层获得1%的点数 .假设你发展了3个下线，而每个下线又发展了3个下线，你和你所有下线平均每天上网1个小时，那么你的月收入就有2321美元了。当然这需要你以认真的态度工作。 6、其实美国cashfiesta公司，的赚钱途径还有很多,比如游戏赚点,注册赚点等很多方法哦!当你注册了以后,自己到网站上去挖掘吧! 只要你登陆了，网站就送0.41美金给你象我一样持之以恒地去发表文章，你总有一天会拥有数以万计的下线会员，想更好的发展会员请进入http://www.baidu.com/baidu?word=网络商务营销&cl=3搜索网络商务营销，该网站是专门研究不花钱就可以扩大你的宣传的专业网站。让大家都来一起努力吧。接受欧美的先进营销理念！在网络世界信息爆炸、鱼龙混杂我们国人想找到一条及适合我国情又能跟上欧美的先进营销理念的步伐也确属难事。象这种一文钱不花即可赚钱的事实属是一种高招，是一种高智商的双赢创意。; 好 处：1.只要在线就计数，无论您在做什么。 2. 注册一个指定站点得1000点。此方法简捷有效，但大多数朋友由于不认识英文而错过了这个好机会。 当有Sign Up字样时，不要吝惜那几分钟时间，简单填一些表单，您就会发现自己的点数一下上涨了千余点！ 3.当你成为黄金会员(积聚黄金点gold points到133点)时,你的报酬将大大增加. 成为黄金会员的要求：得到黄金积分133分以上，得黄金积分的方法有： A.注册六个以上offer； B.每天使用其广告条半小时以上； C.注册赚点1点以上； D.根据你的下线情况给你计算黄金积分等。 E.另外每个月根据你累积的点数， cashfiesta.com会有Bonus给你。如，点数在1和2之间,就可以得到额外的4000点,点数在3以上，则可以得到额外的7000点. f.保存你赚的点请单击右上角的 X 关闭即可。 【赚点累积得分的使用技巧】 广告条的使用广告条的左上方有Home，可进入该网站主页 CashFiesta POINTS,可显示自己所得的点数 Referrals，显示自己的下线数目 提示注意：广告条左角的小人在走动时，表示在计费，如果小人停止了，请用光标点击小人，让它走动。 注意！！当广告条打开时，计算机屏幕右下角启动条上会显示一个CASHSURFERS"$"图标，当它是绿色时，表示在计费。- 正在赚点 （任务栏上的图标为绿色） 每隔一段时间，CASHSURFERS"$"图标就会变红. - 停止赚点（任务栏上的"$"图标为红色） 广告条在任务栏上的"$"图标变红或小人坐下时请在广告条上移动鼠标 ，此时小人会拍拍手站起来走，如果不行请点击广告后在广告条上移动鼠标。 小人如果跑到广告条里去就要点 击他，让他回到广告条左侧，否则不会继续放广告。 技巧：当小人开始走进广告条里面时，在小人前方点击鼠 标他马上会回去，时间不会超过10 秒。CashFiesta每月付款，50美元起付，未满则累积至下月。 注册请进入：美二妹下网站：http://www.cashfiesta.com/php/join.php?ref=rlly4359182作为您的朋友您注册后我送您最新版亿虎群发大师2004和2亿个电子邮件地址，（存放地址：; http://www.kdt.cn/kdt/index.php免费下载→立即下载。下载安装后放有，亿虎群发大师2004和2亿个电子邮件地址的KDT号是：2215720，这个地方你还会有意外的收获免费小电影）您可以用群发邮件来宣传这篇文章，他会为您联络大量客户，你将获得15%的奖励。; 注册步骤：用这个网址美二妹下网站：http://www.cashfiesta.com/php/join.php?ref=rlly4359182 进入注册页面，注意：请用英文或拼音填写！注册表单是不支持中文注册的!不要担心英文不好，请参照如下的提示进行注册！ 表单英文名称 相对中文解译 Login 输入您的用户名(英文,字母,数字) password 输入您的密码 Verify password 重复输入您的密码 First name 用来拿支票的身份证上的名字，外国人习惯名前姓后(拼音或英文) Last name 你身份证上的姓氏(拼音或英文) Street Address 您的住址，可以用拼音，按外国人习惯，从小到大写清楚，至少要中国的邮递员明白 例如：福建省漳州市厦门路8号，No.8,Xiamen Road,Zhangzhou,FuJian City 居住城市 Zip/Postal Code 邮编，一定要写正确哦 State 居住的州，中国选[Not Selected] Province 请填您居住的省份 Country 国籍China E-Mail Address 能收到信的邮箱 Verify E-Mail Address 校验邮箱，再填一遍信箱地址 Year of birth 出生年月 Gender 性别，Male男，Female女 Education 受教育程度，随便填写
where are netboot ide-disk modules?
I am installing debian on a system with no removable media. I am netbooting the installation using pxe, dhcp, tftp. This works fine and I can start the installation. However, the install cannot access my harddisk because the ide-disk.o modules is not found. That the module is needed is autodetected, but insmod module load failed so I cannot access my harddrive. What is the solution to this? ~Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendmail --> Exim howto?
I'm about to convert a mail system from Sendmail to Exim. Anyone know of a tutorial/HOWTO on the subject? I did a fairly extensive web search and all I could find was someone on a mailing list commenting on a great HOWTO that was no longer available. Thanks. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
setting up HP psc2110 with hpoj, Debian Sarge
After doing some reading and searching, and trying to re-install hpoj, I get this error at the END of the 'make install': #Setting /etc/init.d/ptal-init symlink. /bin/sh: line 1: chkconfig: command not found Warning: chkconfig not available to set up SysV init script symlinks! Refer to setup-build-details.html for instructions on manually setting ptal-init to start at bootup. I read 'setup-build-details.html' and apparently my Debian testing distribution doesn't use this. So I need to know what file to edit to add 'ptal-init start' at boot. Thanks... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to 'apt-cache search'&'apt-file search' by distribut
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 13:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What arguement should I use with 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-file > search' to specific the distribution? > > Eg. If I want to search for source packages (or normal packages) in > unstable distribution, what would the complete command for 'apt-cache > search' and 'apt-file search'? > AFAIK, you cant restrict your apt-cache search by branch. I think it just searches all package lists fetched from the sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list. However, if you know the package name, you can use apt-cache policy to see a list of all available packages (from all branches) with the specified name along with their versions, apt-get sources, and installation status. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy mutt mutt: Installed: 1.5.5.1-20040112+1 Candidate: 1.5.5.1-20040112+1 Version Table: *** 1.5.5.1-20040112+1 0 500 ftp://ftp.debian.org sarge/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1.3.28-2.2 0 500 http://security.debian.org woody/updates/main Packages 500 ftp://ftp.debian.org woody/main Packages Also, if you know the package exists, you _can_ specify the distribution you want to install from with apt-get --target-release zepto:/home/david# apt-get -s --target-release stable install tcpdump Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: tcpdump 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18 not upgraded. Inst tcpdump (3.6.2-2.8 Debian-Security:3.0/stable) Conf tcpdump (3.6.2-2.8 Debian-Security:3.0/stable) -davidc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving from XP and looking for replacement programs
On Sunday 18 April 2004 05:49 pm, Ralph Katz wrote: > On 04/17/04 10:00, Penbrock wrote: > > I want to make the jump from XP to Debian with KDE. I have a few > > programs I am trying to find Linux replacements for and am having a > > hard time. Can anyone help me find replacements for these programs? > > > > NewsRover (Auto download messages and attachments from selected > > newsgroups) > > > > DVD X copy (Backup DVD movies) > > > > Creative PlayStation ( Used to rip audio CDs) KAudioCreator > > > > Weather Bug (Local weather on the task bar) KWeather (just current conditions, no weather forecast) SuperKaramba (puts applets on your desktop) has some applets available to display the current conditions and forecast on your desktop (see www.kdelook.org). > > > > MailWasher (anti spam program) > > > > Ad-aware (spy ware remover) Shouldn't be necessary - as most things you install will probably be open source, they shouldn't come with adware / spyware attached, and your browser won't let itself be hijacked. > > > > Nero Burn (CD/DVD bruning program) k3b, as Micha mentioned. > > > > Norton Anti-virus ( Is this even needed with Linux?) > > > > > > DRIVERS FOR: > > Soundblaster Audigy > > Lexmark Z13 May be a problem? http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z13 > > Canon i560 This one, too - I don't even see it listed at linuxprinting.org > > linux.debian.user is a read-only gateway from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] so very few saw your post. > > You can post without subscribing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > just read the newsgroup. It's what I do. > > I'm sure you'll get a response soon there. Also, try > http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages > > Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla Thunderbird questions [partly solved]
Well, here's a partial answer to one of my questions. Posting it here
in the hopes it helps others, too.
Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
> 2) How can I force Thunderbird not to wrap specific long lines in an
> email? If for instance I'm writing a bug report, I want it to wrap
> paragraphs of text, but not the error messages I include inline. Is the
> context menu "Paste Without Formatting" what I'm looking for?
Copied from here: http://brianpuccio.net/old/node/view/169 :
I found out how to get rid of the on the fly, automagic adjusting of the
word wrap in plain text emails. I knew it was called flowed format but I
wasn't sure how to turn it off. Yes, I am aware of the advantages it
offers, but it also makes me look like an idiot when posting to the
mailing lists. So I added these two lines to my prefs.js file:
user_pref("mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support", true);
user_pref("mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed", false);
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Re: dvd burners
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 16:08, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi world! > > I noticed that dvd burners are quite reasonably priced now. > > Any recommendations? > > I also noted terms that I am not familiar with: > > Write Speed: 8X DVD+R, 4X DVD+RW, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD-RW, 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW > > What does DVD+R/-R DVD+RW/-RW mean? > Sounds like a little research into DVD formats is in order. I found google to be particularly useful at the point where I was asking the same questions. -davidc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Moving from XP and looking for replacement programs
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 05:49:45PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote: > On 04/17/04 10:00, Penbrock wrote: > >I want to make the jump from XP to Debian with KDE. I have a few programs I > >am trying to find Linux replacements for and am having a hard time. Can > >anyone help me find replacements for these programs? > > > >NewsRover (Auto download messages and attachments from selected newsgroups) > > > >DVD X copy (Backup DVD movies) > > k3b does it AFAIK, also some command line tools which I believe k3b uses. IIRC it requires ripping and reencoding compressed as most commercial DVDs are more the 4.5G which is the size of the commercially available DRV-R (don't own a dvd burner so not sure about this) > >Creative PlayStation ( Used to rip audio CDs) > > ripperx, grip > >Weather Bug (Local weather on the task bar) > > > >MailWasher (anti spam program) > > spam assassin > >Ad-aware (spy ware remover) > > Not much of an issue. People need to actually break in for that, but chkrootkit does that. Don't get an heart attack when it warns about potential hacks as it has some false positives. Also debsums check md5 sums of package files. > >Nero Burn (CD/DVD bruning program) > > k3b > >Norton Anti-virus ( Is this even needed with Linux?) > > Non-issue. Only needed if your computer acts as a mail gateway and you want to scan emails for the other computers. > > > >DRIVERS FOR: > > Soundblaster Audigy alsa or oss probably. > > Lexmark Z13 > > Canon i560 > cups is good for printers (probably along with foomatic. From google it seems that there is a linux driver for the z53 on the lexmark site. Don't know about the canon i560. > linux.debian.user is a read-only gateway from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] so very few saw your post. > > You can post without subscribing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > just read the newsgroup. It's what I do. > > I'm sure you'll get a response soon there. Also, try > http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages > > Good luck. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla Thunderbird questions
Kevin B. McCarty wrote: Hi all, I switched from pine to Thunderbird last week, and there are two issues that are really frustrating me. I would be using mutt myself but it frequently flakes out for imap over ssl, which is unacceptable, so I gave up on it for now. 1) How can I get Thunderbird to insert a text file into the body of an email that I'm writing? In pine this is just Ctrl+R, but in Thunderbird the only way I've found is to cut-n-paste from an editor window. Needless to say, this is undesirable for large files. (Selecting Attach from the toolbar or File->Attach from the menu only lets me send the file as an attachment.) There isn't any extension [1] available to do this either. Unless you have the time to learn how to write this as an extension I believe you are out of luck. [1] http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/extensions/ dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: devfs / noflusd
After installing sarge on a laptop, I get the error that not all packages were setup correctly. Looking at it closer, the error is that the kernel is configured with devfs, but devfs is not mounted anywhere. As a result, noflushd cannot work. There is a reference to the noflushd README which suggests a line in fstab. I tried that, but it makes no difference. Can anyone help me fix this? - ---Michael I found your query on a Google search. Hope this helps you out, but I just went through this myself with no verification of accuracy. In the /etc/fstab file, I added this: # # Set up devfs here # none /devfs devfs defaults0 0 After this, I needed to do a few things: sarge:~# mkdir /devfs sarge:~# mount -a sarge:~# apt-get -u dist-upgrade This allowed the noflushd package to be completely configured, and started. -- D. Frye dafr AT peakpeak.com dafr AT freeshell.org http://dafr.freeshell.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA Networking -- who controls?
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 01:29:12PM -0700, Jesse Hein wrote: > I have the following to /etc/network/interfaces (Xed out the sercutiy stuff) >auto wlan0 >iface wlan0 inet dhcp > gateway 192.168.1.1 > wireless mode managed > wireless_essid X > wireless_enc on > wlan_ng_key0 XX > > > No other files were touched, I was under the impression this should be > enough. Was I wrong? > The only wrong part I can see is that you shouldn't use "auto" for a PCMCIA interface. If you do, the system will try to bring up the network before PCMCIA is available. -- Giraffe: a ruminant with a view. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
syslog filling up with "no addrs found for root NS"
Hi List, I just experienced a pseudo denial of service issue. A server of ours runs woody and bind seems to have filled syslog and daemon.log with about 1.3g worth of messages along the lines of Apr 18 18:25:38 server named[241]: sysquery: no addrs found for root NS (A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) Apr 18 18:25:38 server named[241]: sysquery: no addrs found for root NS (B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) Apr 18 18:25:38 server named[241]: sysquery: no addrs found for root NS (C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) This in itself was not much of issue except that logcheck started to eat up all the memory and the kernel starts to kill processes. What I have done is to recreate syslog and daemon.log with the above lines stripped out with grep and restarted the the logging daemons. However, I would like to know how to prevent something like this from happening in the future. Any help / pointers in this matter will be appreciated. Thanks and best wishes, Shri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/var/log/syslog and /var/log/daemon.log getting very big
Hi List, I just experienced a pseudo denial of service issue. A server of ours runs woody and bind seems to have filled syslog and daemon.log with about 1.3g worth of messages along the lines of Apr 18 18:25:38 server named[241]: sysquery: no addrs found for root NS (A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) Apr 18 18:25:38 server named[241]: sysquery: no addrs found for root NS (B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) Apr 18 18:25:38 server named[241]: sysquery: no addrs found for root NS (C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) This in itself was not much of issue except that logcheck started to eat up all the memory and the kernel starts to kill processes. What I have done is to recreate syslog and daemon.log with the above lines stripped out with grep and restarted the the logging daemons. However, I would like to know how to prevent something like this from happening in the future. Any help / pointers in this matter will be appreciated. Thanks and best wishes, Shri -- Shri Shrikumar U R Byte Solutions Tel: 0845 644 4745 I.T. Consultant Edinburgh, Scotland Mob: 0773 980 3499 Web: www.urbyte.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mozilla Thunderbird questions
Hi all, I switched from pine to Thunderbird last week, and there are two issues that are really frustrating me. 1) How can I get Thunderbird to insert a text file into the body of an email that I'm writing? In pine this is just Ctrl+R, but in Thunderbird the only way I've found is to cut-n-paste from an editor window. Needless to say, this is undesirable for large files. (Selecting Attach from the toolbar or File->Attach from the menu only lets me send the file as an attachment.) 2) How can I force Thunderbird not to wrap specific long lines in an email? If for instance I'm writing a bug report, I want it to wrap paragraphs of text, but not the error messages I include inline. Is the context menu "Paste Without Formatting" what I'm looking for? Thanks in advance for any hints, -- Kevin B. McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Physics Department WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~kmccarty/Princeton University GPG: public key ID 4F83C751 Princeton, NJ 08544 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving from XP and looking for replacement programs
On 04/17/04 10:00, Penbrock wrote: I want to make the jump from XP to Debian with KDE. I have a few programs I am trying to find Linux replacements for and am having a hard time. Can anyone help me find replacements for these programs? NewsRover (Auto download messages and attachments from selected newsgroups) DVD X copy (Backup DVD movies) Creative PlayStation ( Used to rip audio CDs) Weather Bug (Local weather on the task bar) MailWasher (anti spam program) Ad-aware (spy ware remover) Nero Burn (CD/DVD bruning program) Norton Anti-virus ( Is this even needed with Linux?) DRIVERS FOR: Soundblaster Audigy Lexmark Z13 Canon i560 linux.debian.user is a read-only gateway from [EMAIL PROTECTED] so very few saw your post. You can post without subscribing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and just read the newsgroup. It's what I do. I'm sure you'll get a response soon there. Also, try http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stable vs. Testing Vs. Unstable
"s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Incoming from Loren M. Lang: > > I'm curious about how many people are actually using Debian Unstable or > > Testing to Stable for normal desktop use or even a production server. > > I've never felt any need for anything but stable. Have you ever owned a video card that's under four years old. I need the hardware support of newer releases. Nearly 2 years ago I had to load sid in order to support my radeon 8500. That card was long in the tooth then and hardly newer today. I notice that stable still doesn't support it. > I've never been one to think newer is necessarily better. I update > for security or stability. I've no need for the bleeding edge. > Every upgrade comes with its own brand new set of bugs, so why not > stick with the ones you've got if you can? If you can. Some people like to buy reasonably modern hardware for all sorts of reasons. -- Johan KULLSTAM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: festival 1.4.3 is not working on debian testing
on Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 07:44:56PM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi all >I have always received wonderful advice from this group which > successfully solved my previous problems. Thanks you all. > > I installed festival 1.4.3, a speech synthesis system couple of days > back. It is not working properly. This is what I did. > > $echo 'Hello world' > temp > $festival --tts temp > > when the last command is executed, I hear some sound but definitely not > hello world. It sounds as if saying hello world at ultra-fast speed. Is > there anything I need to tinker around before running festival? I > googled a bit around but had no luck. Just to note, I have the same problem, no solution. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Save Bob Edwards! http://www.savebobedwards.com/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Before going with debian questions.
on Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 10:36:35AM -0800, Ken Irving ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 07:39:19PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 09:26:53AM -0700, Robin Lynn Frank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > wrote: > > Basic benefits: > > > > ... > > > > - Choice of stability / currency tradeoff points with different Debian > > releases: stable (old but rock solid), testing (equivalent to most > > other distro's current release), ... > > This statement seems at odds with recent list discussions of the nature > of testing, which point out that testing may break for various reasons > and is slow to get security updates. Testing breaks relatively infrequently, but often stays broken for a longer period of time, than unstable. The security updates issue is one that needs to be considered. As a result, I run testing/unstable, with a default pin of testing, but selected packages installed from unstable, on my own desktops *and* servers. I've also got over five years' experience with Debian and generally understand the packaging system and project pretty well. I'd recommend running Debian for 3-6 months before hopping onto the unstable track for any critical systems (for varying levels of critical). The situation is largely an outfall of Debian testing's inclusion policy: packages enter testing: - Ten days after release to unstable. - If no critical bugs are filed against the package. - If no dependencies against other packages are unmet. - Unless explicitly overridden by the release manager(s). Generally, many bugs _are_ caught in the first ten days of release. Which means that for unstable, you'll have relatively frequent, but (hopefully) short-lived breakage. This can be deceptive particularly in relatively stable periods of release for people who try unstable, sometimes lasting for 6-12 months. After which all hell breaks loose, and we on the #debian IRC channel (irc.debian.org) see lots of "how do I downgrade from unstable to stable" questions (answer: you don't). When bugs *do* hit testing, however, they tend to stay there for a while. Because the fixes themselves take at least ten days to propogate through. *This* is why seasoned vets will include security and unstable sources, pin to testing, and when something breaks, investigate the situation and specifically install the fix from unstable: # apt-get install -t unstable The _other_ situation to keep in mind is that specific changes which have deep and wide dependencies often are kept _out_ of testing for considerable periods of time. KDE, GNOME, and glibc changes are among these, and in all three, testing can lag unstable not by days, but by months. This can be difficult to explain. Or in short: Debian offers a *very* high degree of flexibility in selecting a balance of currency *and* stability, above and beyond the nominal levels provided in the official release levels. Trying to explain this to the new Debian adoptee, lacking experience over some time with Debian's packaging system, and a clear understanding of Debian Policy, is very, very difficult. Hence the basic advice: When starting out, choose stable (if your HW and needs will allow it), or stick to testing for a while, and keep a weather eye out for security updates. > > ... unstable (usually works, but watch the release notes / > > upgrade lists), experimental (unofficial, *will* stab you in the > > face, given the opportunity. My basic recommendation is > > 'stable' for servers, 'testing' for workstations, > > Is this still your recommendation? I've used testing in the past for > workstations, but from the recent discussions thought that unstable > would be the preferred choice when stable won't cut it. What you (and all others out there) have to keep in mind is that unstable *will* break. It changes. Daily. And some of those changes will break things. You're not going to get any more than a few hours advance notice of this if you're tracking unstable. Versus the week-and-some which 'testing' affords. ...and by contrast, the *only* changes to 'stable' are updates which address bugs and security issues. For an organization which values stability of operation, the ability to track a highly consistent version of tools for a 2-3 year interval (the typical period between major Debian version releases, plus support of the prior release) is valuable. Especially as you can *also* simultaneously track the development version for compatibility and future-proofing purposes, should your organization have the minimal neuron count to realize this is not only valuable, but mandatory. > > until you understand packaging tools. After which point you > > want to look at pinning. > > I'll have to look into pinning. I prefer running stable, but want > some packages not available there. Basically (all file locations in /etc/apt/) - In apt-preferences, set your default pin levels.
dvd burners
Hi world! I noticed that dvd burners are quite reasonably priced now. Any recommendations? I also noted terms that I am not familiar with: Write Speed: 8X DVD+R, 4X DVD+RW, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD-RW, 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW What does DVD+R/-R DVD+RW/-RW mean? And a 10-pack of DVD+RW is only $40.- Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cupsys problems
Under testing I've just installed cupsys + gimp-print + BSD support via apt-get. In a nutshell, a complete installation where I can see all the packages with the cupsys prefix! Under KDE 3.1 I've quickly installed my local Epson Stylus Color local printer which I've defined as the default printer . The printer turns out to be active. But. Whenever I try to print the test page (or whatever else) I don't get anything, no sign of life from my printer (which works, I'm sure about it). The job reports invariably say that the job have been "canceled-by-the-user" But I'm doing nothing at all. What's going on? Please help Vittorio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to rebuild glibc w/compiler flags designed for my system
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 05:47:35PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Read somewhere on the web that this will somehow do some speed > optimization. > > Any advice on this? apt-get install pentium-builder -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla 1.6-5 not printing anything
J.S.Sahambi wrote: steef wrote: J.S.Sahambi wrote: I am using Debian/unstable. Recently after an upgrade, mozilla has stopped printing. When I print a page from mozilla, it sends a ps file to printer and nothing gets printed. My printer is HP2300TN and I am using cups for printing. The output of dpkg -l|grep cups is given below: $ dpkg -l |grep cups . . . . . . add some foomatic-files: maybe good under unstable too?? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l|grep foomatic ii foomatic-db20040303-1 linuxprinting.org printer support - database ii foomatic-db-en 3.0.1-20040312 linuxprinting.org printer support - programs ii foomatic-filte 3.0.1-6linuxprinting.org printer support - filters ii foomatic-filte 20040220-1 linuxprinting.org printer support - prebuilt I had updated the system a couple of times in last 2 weeks and did not boot the machine. So the uptime was about 15 days. Today I booted the machine and mozilla is now printing without any problems. So now a new question: Should one reboot the machine after every update of the system? Thanks for suggestions. JSS do it, just to stay on the safe side. seems no harm in rebooting after major changes. s. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lm-sensors
hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Alex Lorca wrote: A note on the jpeg images: the jumps in temperature occur because I turn an external fan on/off. That makes a huge difference in CPU temps. It was noted in this list a while ago: best is to maintain positive pressure inside the case with a fan: you keep out dust and you cool the case. Where I am the room temp can hit 37 degrees (centigrade) and with the external fan the CPU temp is no more than 10 degrees more. But my wife cannot stand the fan and so she tuns it off: up goes the temp. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.x + hotplug + usb scanner - not work.
> Hi folk. > I have problem with using my USB Epson 2400 photo scanner. > uname -r > 2.6.6-rc1 > lsusb | grep -i epson > Bus 004 Device 002: ID 04b8:011b Seiko Epson Corp. Perfection 2400 Photo ... > sane-find-scanner | grep -i epson > found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x011b [EPSON Scanner]) at lib ... > grep -v \# scanner /etc/sane.d/epson.conf > /etc/sane.d/epson.conf:usb /dev/usb/scanner0 Thanks http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/debian-user-200403/msg01067.html I change from usb /dev/usb.scanner0 to usb and my scanner now work fine. Many thanks. -- Зарегистрируйте бесплатный почтовый ящик @inet.ua -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nero
Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 04:12:32PM +1000, Jac van Oosterom wrote: My system is windows 2000 Bad thing! Get Debian and use cdrecord. Right on. Then while you are booting Debian and he offers to format your drive, go ahead and use that window$ partition and have hime reformat it as an ext2 partition and put your brand-new Debian there: uses less space and is more useful ;-) Then there will be so many ways to burn a CD that you lose track of the ways... Hugo and my Liteon cd burner will only operate with the Nero installation disk that came with the unit. I prefer to use Roxio.Is this possible and how can I do that? It's good to be able to contact you this way. [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disclaimer (was: Re: eth0 dissappeared after install)
On 2004-04-18, Joost De Cock penned: > > DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and may > be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, > reproduction, copying, distribution, or other dissemination or use of > this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > transmission in error please notify A.S.T.R.I.D. nv/sa immediately > and then delete this e-mail. > Is there no way for you to remove this disclaimer from your mailing list posts? Perhaps you could post from another address. I'm sure you know that debian-user is archived, and in any case you can't possibly know everyone on the list. I assume, as I am a recipient, that I'm allowed to disclose, reproduce, copy, and distribute your email at will ... -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev, autofs & module loading
Michael Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > cd /mnt/cdrom > > works as expected and the cdrom is mounted. But if the module hasn't > been loaded then this fails > > bash: cd: /mnt/cdrom: No such file or directory > > because the device /dev/hdc does not exist yet and neither hotplug nor > udev creates it. > > Is there away around this without adding the modules to /etc/modules? >From what I've read on the hotplug mailing lists, Linux is going from 'load-module-at-first-use' to 'load-module-at-first-hw-detection'. Basically, you have to load the modules for your hardware when it is first inserted (or for built in hardware, like cdrom, at bootup), because udev won't load the modules when you try to access the nodes (unlike devfs). -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Before going with debian questions.
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:36:35 -0800 Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is this still your recommendation? I've used testing in the past for > workstations, but from the recent discussions thought that unstable > would be the preferred choice when stable won't cut it. If you were to only track one distribution, if it were a choice of testing and unstable, I'd pick unstable. Right now, testing is fairly safe because of where we are in the release cycle, a few months after sarge goes out, watch out. I'm fully expecting KDE/GNOME breakage for a time as 3.2/2.6 come down. But there is another option, and that's to track testing, while carefully monitoring security notices and manually installing individual packages from unstable (on top of your install which is mostly testing) either in response to said security updates, or to try and fix breakage in testing. >> until you understand packaging tools. After which point you want >> to look at pinning. > > I'll have to look into pinning. I prefer running stable, but want some > packages not available there. The danger with solving this problem (need packages or versions of packages not present in stable) by continuing to run stable but pulling in individual packages from testing/unstable is that those packages will have dependencies, which will have dependencies, and suddenly you have a stable/testing/unstable hybrid, which can be difficult to maintain. Especially when one of those dependancies is on a new glibc, and suddenly you have to replace a large part of your installed packages. Backports are a much better option, if they're available or if you can do it. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sarge not working
Tomy Alarie wrote: > How can i dist upgrade to Sarge ? 1) Do a basic install with the Woody installer 2) Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, remove any security.debian.org lines, and change "stable" to "testing" or "sarge" in the other lines 3) Run "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" You now are running Debian Sarge. Use apt-get or aptitude to add X, KDE, and any other packages you may want. > Will i'll get KDE 3.1 and Xfree86 4.3 ? Yes - those are both in Sarge. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stable vs. Testing Vs. Unstable
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 10:29:15PM -0700, Loren M. Lang wrote: > I'm curious about how many people are actually using Debian Unstable or > Testing to Stable for normal desktop use or even a production server. > I've being using Gentoo lately, and I love how nice the newer software > is like KDE 3.2.1 or Gnome 2.4 and I don't want to go back to Gnome 1.x > just because I want a "stable" debian system, where gentoo seems to run > fine with the latest. I run unstable and do aptitude upgrades every day on all three of my home systems (server, firewall, desktop). Systems I manage for my work generally run stable (except for a couple of desktop systems that run unstable and get upgraded once a week). I've never run into any significant problems that left my system in an completely unusable state, although I am careful to run apt-listbugs before my upgrades. I also know how to downgrade stuff from snapshot.debian.net, and have done so on many occasions when an update from unstable has broken something. -- Dave Carrigan Seattle, WA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.rudedog.org/ | ICQ:161669680 UNIX-Apache-Perl-Linux-Firewalls-LDAP-C-C++-DNS-PalmOS-PostgreSQL-MySQL Dave is currently listening to Rheostatics - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald (Melville) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Re: Debian /etc/hosts Behavior
Hmm ... I am also running unstable; a fresh install. Fresh as fresh can be! I assumed that the installer had created this line - it asks for the hostname when configuring the network - but I'd have to do another installation to be sure. Jack On Apr 18, 2004, at 11:47 AM, Ken Irving wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 09:33:11AM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 10:32:29AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- 127.0.0.1 kas localhost --- This realized, it was a quick fix: --- 127.0.0.1 localhost --- If this entry prevents "hostname -f" and "hostname -d" from working, why does Debian create it? Debian doesn't, on any of my machines: ... Personally, what YOU had in /etc/hosts looks like something that was added locally. I had the same thing on one machine running unstable (hostname before localhost), but not on others running stable. I recently used the hostname command (followed by some grepping and editing other files under /etc) to change the host's name; maybe that was responsible for this format? -- Ken Irving, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recording DVDs with k3b
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo! I'm trying to record DVDs with k3b, but I've found problems. If I try to record media at 2x (maximum speed of the recorder) or "auto" I get an error message: "Failed to change write speed: 2117->2700" (complete error message is at the end). It only works when setting speed=ignore... but it records at 1x 8-( I haven't found any info at google, and I've already voted for a similar problem: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74150 TIA Complete k3b error message: - - System --- K3b Version: 0.11.9 KDE Version: 3.2.2 QT Version: 3.2.3 growisofs --- INFO: ISO-8859-15 character encoding detected by locale settings. Assuming ISO-8859-15 encoded filenames on source filesystem, use -input-charset to override. /dev/hdc: engaging DVD-R DAO upon user request... :-( Failed to change write speed: 2117->2700 growisofs comand: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdc -use-the-force-luke=notray - -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=dao -speed=2 -gui -graft-points - -V StarGate 2 5-16 -volset -A K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION 0.10.3 (C) 2003 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -P -p K3b - Versión 0.10.3 -sysid LINUX - -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-quini/k3bZNjiUb.tmp -r - -hide-list /tmp/kde-quini/k3bVxNFJa.tmp -iso-level 3 - -path-list /tmp/kde-quini/k3bTeUVrb.tmp - - - -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAgtKKok8j9RhtetwRAg+CAJ4jDXLdlYFMRs5nJ+rIvMxb9yzQUQCfb2do FcYjM4fKBtzgle8A7dt4MRQ= =Pro9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: PCMCIA Networking -- who controls? (SOLVED)
Okay, I figured out my mistake. I stumbled across a reference that for hotplug cards you are NOT supposed to have the auto line in the stanza. Oops! Jesse Hein wrote: I succesfully installed wlan-ng and have the card working, kinda. When first put in, or at bootup, I get an error message about turning it on. If I type: ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0 It then comes back up okay. My guess is that something else is getting to the card first and trying to start it up unsuccesfully, then the network script is coming in and can't do it because the first one messed it up. I have the following to /etc/network/interfaces (Xed out the sercutiy stuff) auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp gateway 192.168.1.1 wireless mode managed wireless_essid X wireless_enc on wlan_ng_key0 XX No other files were touched, I was under the impression this should be enough. Was I wrong? Jesse Hein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge not working
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 07:30:30PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > I also encountered this problem a few weeks ago. I then noticed that > there was an option to check the status of the CD and it said it was > faulty. I had that too. I tried CDs from a couple of sources but both failed. I assumed there was something wrong with the ISO (that or the "check status" bit is broken, but I wasn't sure how to test that :). This was a month or two (or three) ago. -- dave thorn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian /etc/hosts Behavior
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 09:33:11AM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 10:32:29AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- > > 127.0.0.1 kas localhost > > --- > > This realized, it was a quick fix: > > --- > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > --- > > > > If this entry prevents "hostname -f" and "hostname -d" from working, > > why does Debian create it? > > Debian doesn't, on any of my machines: > ... > Personally, what YOU had in /etc/hosts looks like something that was added > locally. I had the same thing on one machine running unstable (hostname before localhost), but not on others running stable. I recently used the hostname command (followed by some grepping and editing other files under /etc) to change the host's name; maybe that was responsible for this format? -- Ken Irving, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Before going with debian questions.
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 07:39:19PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 09:26:53AM -0700, Robin Lynn Frank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > ... > > > > 1) What are debian's strong and weak points as a server? > > 2) What are debian's strong and weak points as a desktop workstation? > > The "Why Debian Rocks" patge at TWikIWeThey, which I administer, has > already been mentioned. Manoj Srivastava (Debian Project Secretary) > also has a very good page up on the topic (referenced above IIRC). > > Basic benefits: > > ... > > - Choice of stability / currency tradeoff points with different Debian > releases: stable (old but rock solid), testing (equivalent to most > other distro's current release), ... This statement seems at odds with recent list discussions of the nature of testing, which point out that testing may break for various reasons and is slow to get security updates. > ... unstable (usually works, but watch > the release notes / upgrade lists), experimental (unofficial, *will* > stab you in the face, given the opportunity. My basic > recommendation is 'stable' for servers, 'testing' for workstations, Is this still your recommendation? I've used testing in the past for workstations, but from the recent discussions thought that unstable would be the preferred choice when stable won't cut it. > until you understand packaging tools. After which point you want to > look at pinning. I'll have to look into pinning. I prefer running stable, but want some packages not available there. Ken -- Ken Irving, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge not working
On 18 Apr 2004, Tomy Alarie wrote: > On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 04:40:00PM +, Tomy Alarie wrote: > > Hi, i've downloaded 2 first cd iso of sarge today and boot with the > first, > > i configure my location keyboard, and after when its time to initialize a > > hard drive, it couldnt complete this step etc.. or something that means > it > > doesn't recognize my drive... any ideas ? > > I had this. Try as I might, I couldn't get it to do anything when I > tried to do anything after configuring the keyboard. I installed woody > and did a dist-upgrade to sarge instead. > > How can i dist upgrade to Sarge ? Will i'll get KDE 3.1 and Xfree86 4.3 ? > > Thanks > tomy I also encountered this problem a few weeks ago. I then noticed that there was an option to check the status of the CD and it said it was faulty. I therefore adopted the same tactic as you (Woody base, then upgrade to Sarge). I got another set of disks from the supplier but I haven't checked them yet. Anthony -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic Windows-free zone || books and skeptical articles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modular Kernel:Wat should be modules,wat should be built
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate some elaboration on what kernel module loader does exactly, since none of the modules get loaded automatically during runtime. Understanding this will perhaps help to decide which features will stay as a module and which are the ones that will be built in. I have never used automatic loading, but from what I have heard, it will work in cases such as loading filesystem modules and netfilter (iptables) target modules. I'd imagine it does not work in cases of modules for particular network interface cards, because it is not able to unambiguously determine which is the appropriate module to load (although perhaps it ought to be able to in the event that there is only a single such module). dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received - Mail Delivery (failure customerservice@playcentric.com) [TID238887]
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Re: Sarge not working
Dave Thorn wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 04:40:00PM +, Tomy Alarie wrote: Hi, i've downloaded 2 first cd iso of sarge today and boot with the first, i configure my location keyboard, and after when its time to initialize a hard drive, it couldnt complete this step etc.. or something that means it doesn't recognize my drive... any ideas ? I had this. Try as I might, I couldn't get it to do anything when I tried to do anything after configuring the keyboard. I installed woody and did a dist-upgrade to sarge instead. But WFM! Are we talking the latest Sarge CD versions? So what exact steps do you follow: Are you telling him to partition a drive or are you using an already formatted drive? I just did this yesterday and it works just fine, except: do everything vanilla and use a partition that exixtst and let him format it. He formats the partition, installs the system and grub and reboots. Then when grup comes up hit 'e' so you can add "vga=9" to his boot parm so you can see something when grub boots. After that config gets control. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened to the Compose Key?
On Sunday 18 April 2004 00:40, Steven Yap wrote: > Oops! Sorry. Please look at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst > which contains descriptive text of what the various options are. Thanks, that's a useful file I didn't know about. >> How could I get my right alt key (which as far as I can tell does >> nothing at present) to imitate the left alt key? > > Is your left Alt key also a Meta meta key, or is that function taken I think so. In GNOME, the left Win key brings up the pawprint menu and the left Alt key does the things described as "Meta" in the window manager keyboard shortcut options. > over by left Win? Your right Alt might be mapped to Mode_Switch/AltGr. > If your keys have 3 or more characters on them, Mode_Switch/AltGr > lets you use them. > > Try "alt:rightaltismeta" which should make right Alt generate the > Alt_R keysym and assign Meta_R to it as well. Section "InputDevice" Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin,alt:rightaltismeta" The compose key still works, but the right alt key (which is labelled "AltGr" on the keyboard) still does (as far as I can tell) nothing. I'll poke around with various options but if you think of anything else to try I'd appreciate it. I am however very happy about getting that compose key back! (Whereas I've put up with a useless right Alt for years.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to 'apt-cache search'&'apt-file search' by distribut
/etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian [b:9a928ec131]unstable[/b:9a928ec131] main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian [b:9a928ec131]stable[/b:9a928ec131] main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian [b:9a928ec131]unstable[/b:9a928ec131] main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free What arguement should I use with 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-file search' to specific the distribution? Eg. If I want to search for source packages (or normal packages) in unstable distribution, what would the complete command for 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-file search'? Thanks ! Message posted via www.linuxforums.org . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim4 and adsl connection
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 06:25:06PM -0400, H. S. wrote: > How can I setup exim4 so that if I send email to outside world (non > home.pvt domains), the Sender field contains my sympatico domain, and if > I send mail to a local user on my home network, Sender has "home.pvt". I've put these lines in my exim4.conf file, under remote_smtp: (I guess your corresponding rule is called remote_smtp, if not, it's the transport for the SMTP deliveries.) headers_rewrite = [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] f return_path = [EMAIL PROTECTED] This seems to work fine. I did have this under the generic rewrite rules, but it rewrote them for local delivery, too, but by putting it under remote_smpt, it only changes them for remote delivery. Note that if you have more than one user, you can use a lookup rule for this, but since I'm the only user, I just put the one rule into the conf file. Dunno if the "return_path" rule is necessary or not, but my mail gets out so I'm not going to mess with it ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian has turned unusable.
"Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > I'm new to the Debian community, but I have used RedHat for about 8 > years, and Gentoo for almost two. I must say, Debian is quite good > compared to these other distro's. Perhaps RH is more stable than > Sid/Sarge, but there is NO way to install a base system from a RH CD. > The smallest install I was ever able to get was over 450MB and included > LOTS of extras that I really didn't want. > > I see lots of people advocating Sid(unstable) as a desktop, but > shouldn't people who are not developers/maintainers gravitate to > Sarge? In a word - no. IMHO testing is *only* for developers who run a 2nd box to check integration and freezing into stable. Testing usually is OK and typically suffers from fewer bugs than unstable/sid. However, bugs that do make it into testing are often not fixed and can linger for a long time due to the semi-autonomous migration policies from unstable to testing. For example: last year sometime, gv got updated and needed a new library version. The new library had some bug or other but the gv didn't properly depend upon it. Thus gv entered testing but was broken. No new library was coming because it got kept back. Despite numerous bug reports, *testing* never got fixed until much later. It got sorted in unstable within days. There is no mechanism for actually fixing bugs in testing -- bugs are fixed in sid and trickle down, *eventually*. Testing is last in getting security updates for this reason as well. > Isn't testing/debugging Sarge supposed to be a priority? Perhaps, but in reality it does not appear be such. I tried using testing but was unhappy with it and finally went to sarge. I feel stable is for servers and people with 5 year old video cards. Unstable is for everyone else (most people). Testing is for people working on assembling the next stable on their spare boxen. > Also, since > packages automatically drop into sarge from Sid after 10 days (unless > there is an unresolved issue), you are likely to get all the great new > apps that you want, but without someone dropping in a new, "buggy" > version by mistake. "Likely", but in case of bug, there is no direct mechanism whereby testing gets fixed. If, e.g., libc happens to rev during the 10 days that a fix needs to wait, you can wait a really long time. > Also, this would make more bug reports get filed against Sarge, which > would help to progress it to the next stable. Bug reports against sarge do not result in action fixing sarge directly, but are filtered through sid and automated process. Stable and sid are fixed directly. This makes testing the least maintained of the three flavors. > I realise that I have written these in a somewhat argumentative > form, And I have, perhaps cynically but honestly, responded argumentatively. Hope the comments have helped. > but read them as questions. As I said, I'm new here ( < 3 months ), but > I have read up as much as I can find on the releases and the procedures > for advancement. > > I have used Sarge for about 6 installs now (including upgrade from Woody > and the new installer), and I'm very pleased with it's performance and > package features. I used Woody for my file server (which now has a > local Debian Mirror!), mostly because I don't care about the desktop on > it, and I like to have the security patches, but I have Sarge running on > two laptops, three desktops and a DB server. Also, I'm running Kernel > 2.6.3 with the proprietary Nvidia driver and VMware Workstation on my > work laptop. I note this because these things were exceptionally > problematic on other distros, but were cheezy-eazy on Debian. > > --JATF > > > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Monique Y. Mudama > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Debian has turned unusable. > > > On 2004-04-12, Adam Aube penned: > > Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > > > >> Well, "more unstable than the stable distribution" takes a lot longer > >> to type and wouldn't fit on a CD volume label =P > > > > What about "current", then? > > > > This would encourage people to use the unstable distribution, which by > definition isn't considered ready for prime time. The truth is that > there are tradeoffs; a one-word name just isn't going to capture those > tradeoffs. If anything, the right term for unstable might be "head" or > "tip" -- or would that be experimental? > > But what do I know? I'm just a random user. It does seem to me that > we've had the name game a few times, and every time a dev has strongly > indicated that we should leave well enough alone. > > -- > monique > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Johan KULLSTAM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECT
Re: Sarge not working
Hello Tomy! On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 05:45:14PM +, Tomy Alarie wrote: > How can i dist upgrade to Sarge ? Please see the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-woody.en.html#s-testing-transition Although this chapter describes updating from Potato to Woody (when it was testing) its contents still apply. You could use aptitude instead of dselect, though. > Will i'll get KDE 3.1 and Xfree86 4.3 ? Yes and yes. HTH, Flo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Unidentified subject!
Am Sonntag, 18. April 2004 15:01 schrieb Sherry Winkler: > not sure what i'm doing here, but trying to hook up a video camera to my > dell and it's not working. Thanks, Sherry Thank you for the info. -- MfG usw. Werner Mahr registered Linuxuser: 295882 pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: firefox deleted all my bookmarks
On (19/04/04 00:44), Katipo wrote: > To: debian-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: Katipo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:44:36 +0800 > Subject: Re: firefox deleted all my bookmarks > > Micha Feigin wrote: > > >I just saw that firefox deleted all my bookmarks (and there were quite > >a lot of them) I think that happened with the last upgrade. Anyone else > >see this? > > > > > There was a thread on this within the last week. > I forget the title, but it won't be buried too deep in the archive yet. > Could be a reportable bug. > Regards, FWIW I upgraded sid last night and all my bookmarks are intact (on ppc). Regards Clive -- http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge not working
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 04:40:00PM +, Tomy Alarie wrote: > Hi, i've downloaded 2 first cd iso of sarge today and boot with the first, > i configure my location keyboard, and after when its time to initialize a > hard drive, it couldnt complete this step etc.. or something that means it > doesn't recognize my drive... any ideas ? I had this. Try as I might, I couldn't get it to do anything when I tried to do anything after configuring the keyboard. I installed woody and did a dist-upgrade to sarge instead. How can i dist upgrade to Sarge ? Will i'll get KDE 3.1 and Xfree86 4.3 ? Thanks tomy _ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://messenger.fr.msn.ca/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA configure problem
Sebastiaan wrote: Hi, On Sat, 17 Apr 2004, Hans wrote: This problem has been mentioned before, but after lots of googling I still can't find the solution. I have a (minimal) running Sid system now, with kernel 2.6.5. I want to compile ALSA 1.0.4 from source (don't ask me why), so I got all the tar.bz2 files. The libs compile flawlessly, the drivers not. When running ./configure I end up with checking for directory with kernel source... /lib/modules/2.6.5/build checking for kernel version... The file /lib/modules/2.6.5/build/include/linux/version.h does not exist. Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /usr/src/linux). Kernel directory is /usr/src/linux-2.6.5 and is symlinked by /usr/src/linux. The option --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-2.6.5 doesn't help in solving the problem. The file /lib/modules/2.6.5/build/include/linux/version.h doesn't exist. Anyone with some hints or tips? Thanks. Hans usually when you install your kernel, some source files are installed in /lib/modules/2.6.5/ . Normally this happens when you do a 'make modules_install' after the kernel has been compiled. I don't know how you installed your kernel, but version.h definitely should exist there. Note that /usr/src/linux is something different than /lib/modules/2.6.5/, because the latter is (always) your current kernel. Greetz, Sebastiaan Is this new for kernel 2.6? I indeed solved it by running make modules, then make modules_install in the kernel source directory. I used make-kpkg for compiling the kernel and all the modules that were compiled with the kernel were installed and worked. I compiled ALSA on a Woody box with a 2.4.18 kernel and didn't have this problem. Never had to to a make modules; make modules_install. But thank anyway, as I have ALSA installed now. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stable vs. Testing Vs. Unstable
On April 17, 2004 10:29 pm, Loren M. Lang wrote: > I'm curious about how many people are actually using Debian Unstable or > Testing to Stable for normal desktop use or even a production server. > I've being using Gentoo lately, and I love how nice the newer software > is like KDE 3.2.1 or Gnome 2.4 and I don't want to go back to Gnome 1.x > just because I want a "stable" debian system, where gentoo seems to run > fine with the latest. Well I'm surprised at the number of responses that are negative towards unstable. Maybe I've just been lucky but I can't say I've had any mayor problems with unstable in about 3 years of using it. Well actually I still have testing set as the default release (using apt pinning) but I've installed so many packages from unstable that most of my system is from unstable now. Aside from problems with packages that I really didn't have the expertise to use to start with (udev springs to mind) I really haven't had any mayor problems. I've even used packages from experimental (KDE, XFree 4.3) and aside from the occasional dependency conflict that gets solved at the next update all has been fine. Never had a problem with stability or hosing my system in 3 years. ~leo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge not working
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:47:14 +0100 Dave Thorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 04:40:00PM +, Tomy Alarie wrote: > > Hi, i've downloaded 2 first cd iso of sarge today and boot with the > > first, i configure my location keyboard, and after when its time to > > initialize a hard drive, it couldnt complete this step etc.. or > > something that means it doesn't recognize my drive... any ideas ? > > I had this. Try as I might, I couldn't get it to do anything when I > tried to do anything after configuring the keyboard. I installed woody > and did a dist-upgrade to sarge instead. If you've run into problems using the new sarge installer, and you're sure that it's a problem with the install (and not, say, a bad ISO), then did you check to see whether a bug has been filed about it? And if it hadn't, did you file a bug? -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt-1.5.6 and xv with pdf plugin packages
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 the mental interface of Marc Wilson told: > On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 03:49:31PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > I have built mutt-1.5.6i and xv with an pdf-plugin for testing/unstable. > > You need the following entries in /etc/apt/sources: > > Not to knock your building xv w/ PDF support (it's useful), but the license > prohibits distribution of modified versions. See the license information > at: > > http://www.trilon.com/xv/manual/xv-3.10a/availability.html I'll remove the binaries. The source can still be dowloaded, as I understood the licence? Ciao Elimar -- Excellent day for drinking heavily. Spike the office water cooler;-) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Xinerama across Network
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 05:16:10PM +0100, Rus Foster wrote: } Hi all, } I'm looking for a way to see if its possible to have real Xinerama } across the network some how. What I'm talking about is more than x2x or } VNC in that if I say started something on 10.0.0.1:0.0 I could drag the } entire window onto 192.168.0.1:1.0. Does anyone know if this is possible? There is no X-based way to do it. You can probably fake it with a combination of x2x and VNC, however. You would have to run a VNC X server with the size of both screens put together. You would then run a VNC client on each display, sized and panned to show the correct area of the virtual display on each screen. You use x2x to make the same keyboard and mouse work on both real displays. If this is all running on a 100MBit network, it might not be too slow (though I've experienced some annoying flickering effects with VNC. Note also that this is rather memory intensive, and will not benefit from much video card acceleration. In rereading your post, I don't think that's actually what you want. While I feel like it would be technically possible to have an X server proxy that would let you switch displays the way you want, much like what screen does for terminal-based apps, I don't think anyone has done it and I believe that there are enough nasty edge cases to make it really unpleasant to implement. } Thanks } Rus --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to rebuild glibc w/compiler flags designed for my system
Read somewhere on the web that this will somehow do some speed optimization. Any advice on this? Thanks ! Message posted via www.linuxforums.org . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge not working
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 04:40:00PM +, Tomy Alarie wrote: > Hi, i've downloaded 2 first cd iso of sarge today and boot with the first, > i configure my location keyboard, and after when its time to initialize a > hard drive, it couldnt complete this step etc.. or something that means it > doesn't recognize my drive... any ideas ? I had this. Try as I might, I couldn't get it to do anything when I tried to do anything after configuring the keyboard. I installed woody and did a dist-upgrade to sarge instead. -- dave thorn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge not working
Hi, i've downloaded 2 first cd iso of sarge today and boot with the first, i configure my location keyboard, and after when its time to initialize a hard drive, it couldnt complete this step etc.. or something that means it doesn't recognize my drive... any ideas ? Thanks - e6e9fe46b17fa16d9a250d4189e8f0cd fingerprint Quadra 650 | Debian 3.0r2 | m68k _ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://messenger.fr.msn.ca/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian /etc/hosts Behavior
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 10:32:29AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- > 127.0.0.1 kas localhost > --- > This realized, it was a quick fix: > --- > 127.0.0.1 localhost > --- > > If this entry prevents "hostname -f" and "hostname -d" from working, > why does Debian create it? Debian doesn't, on any of my machines: [ 9:26 am][pts/492][/home/mwilson] rei $ hostname -f rei.moonkingdom.net [ 9:26 am][pts/492][/home/mwilson] rei $ hostname -d moonkingdom.net [ 9:26 am][pts/492][/home/mwilson] rei $ ssh filehost [ 9:31 am][pts/1][/home/mwilson] filehost $ grep "127.0.0.1" /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain [ 9:32 am][pts/1][/home/mwilson] filehost $ hostname -f filehost.moonkingdom.net [ 9:32 am][pts/1][/home/mwilson] filehost $ hostname -d moonkingdom.net [ 9:32 am][pts/1][/home/mwilson] filehost $ exit logout Connection to filehost closed. [ 9:30 am][pts/492][/home/mwilson] rei $ ssh mailhost [ 9:28 am][pts/1][/home/mwilson] mailhost $ grep "127.0.0.1" /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain [ 9:28 am][pts/1][/home/mwilson] mailhost $ hostname -f mailhost.moonkingdom.net [ 9:28 am][pts/1][/home/mwilson] mailhost $ hostname -d moonkingdom.net [ 9:28 am][pts/1][/home/mwilson] mailhost $ What is it they say? Works great, lasts long time. Personally, what YOU had in /etc/hosts looks like something that was added locally. -- Marc Wilson | BOFH excuse #100: IRQ dropout [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stable vs. Testing Vs. Unstable
On Sunday 18 April 2004 12:29 am, Loren M. Lang wrote: > I'm curious about how many people are actually using Debian Unstable or > Testing to Stable for normal desktop use or even a production server. I have been running Unstable here for about nine months as my desktop. I switched from a muchly patched SuSE 7.3 Frankenbox. (I had rpms from SuSE, Mandrake, DeadRat, PLD, and some I rolled , myself) to Debian Sid. (Heck I noticed for somethings my frankenbox was more current ) However, be ye forwarned; Unstable is named after the kid who breaks toys /for a reason/. Do not use sid unless you know how to replace a broken package with a known good one, (catastrophic breakages are NOT unknown). -- J.D. Baldwin>> If there are no atheists in foxholes, how can there possibly J.D. Baldwin>> be any in ADS administration? Lionel> Because the prospect of an eternal void is far more appealing than Lionel> even the remotest possibility of ever having to do more of the same. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt-1.5.6 and xv with pdf plugin packages
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 03:49:31PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > I have built mutt-1.5.6i and xv with an pdf-plugin for testing/unstable. > You need the following entries in /etc/apt/sources: Not to knock your building xv w/ PDF support (it's useful), but the license prohibits distribution of modified versions. See the license information at: http://www.trilon.com/xv/manual/xv-3.10a/availability.html for all the details... specifically para 6 of the Copyright Notice. This is why it was dropped from Debian in the first place. Whether John Bradley still enforces that, I have no idea, but there's been no new license released. -- Marc Wilson | Punishment becomes ineffective after a certain point. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Men become insensitive. -- Eneg, "Patterns of | Force", stardate 2534.7 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: firefox deleted all my bookmarks
Micha Feigin wrote: I just saw that firefox deleted all my bookmarks (and there were quite a lot of them) I think that happened with the last upgrade. Anyone else see this? There was a thread on this within the last week. I forget the title, but it won't be buried too deep in the archive yet. Could be a reportable bug. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xinerama across Network
Hi all, I'm looking for a way to see if its possible to have real Xinerama across the network some how. What I'm talking about is more than x2x or VNC in that if I say started something on 10.0.0.1:0.0 I could drag the entire window onto 192.168.0.1:1.0. Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks Rus -- e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : t: 1-888-327-6330 www.jvds.com - Root on your own box www.vpscolo.com - Your next hosting company www.cherryhosting.net - Shared Hosting With Everything On Top -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
firefox deleted all my bookmarks
I just saw that firefox deleted all my bookmarks (and there were quite a lot of them) I think that happened with the last upgrade. Anyone else see this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim on Debian via ADSL line (no permanent IP address)
Thank you for the feedback. As you proposed I checked (and tried different set-up) with the smarthost but without any positive result. I agree that as I do not have a fixed ip address I am fitting the criteria for inclusion in the DUHL. But I still have one question: why can I send email from outlook express, running on my other pc but connecting the net via the same non fixed ip address? Alain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unidentified subject!
not sure what i'm doing here, but trying to hook up a video camera to my dell and it's not working. Thanks, Sherry Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢
TV tuner misdetection in linux 2.6 v4l
The tuner of my TV card is apparently being misdetected by linux 2.6's video4linux drivers. The tail of `grep -ih 'tuner:.*type' /var/log/syslog*` makes me suspicious: Apr 18 09:15:40 chilia kernel: tuner: type set to 5 (Philips PAL_BG (FI1216 and compatibles)) by bt878 #0 [sw] Apr 18 09:43:30 chilia kernel: tuner: type already set (8) The first entry above (Apr 18 09:15:40) is for my linux 2.6 boot. Here the tuner is detected as type=5 or Philips PAL_BG. This gives bad video: undersaturated colors and wrong TV channels. I suspect the "PAL_BG" has something to do with it. Our signal is NTSC, so I think the second entry above (Apr 18 09:43:30), when I rebooted to my trusty linux 2.4 kernel, shows the correct tuner type. Tuner type=8 is Temic NTSC (4036 FY5). This option (forced via /etc/modules.conf and friends) gives the "right" colors and TV channels. Is there a way to force the type=8 parameter to the 'tuner' module. Under linux 2.4 I have the following in /etc/modules.conf, which is apparently being ignored by linux 2.6: options tuner type=8 debug=1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with smtp-auth (exim4)
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 01:33:57PM +0900 or thereabouts, Brent Russell Langille wrote: > i have fetchmail set up to contact my isp and grab my emails and dump > them to exim which then delivers them to a Maildir style directory. that > works great. > > the problem is sending mail out through exim4 to my isp. my isp only > supports LOGIN auth. i have exim4 setup with the "smarthost" option. i > used the address of the smtp server of my isp as the smarthost. i edited > smtp_remote in the conf.d directory and i put my information in the > passwd.clients file. i also have my user name aliased to my isp email > address in the file /etc/email-addresses > > the problem is i keep getting a "550 5.1.8 you are not allowed to send > mail". i know that i am because i can send mail through evolution > directly to the isp, but i want all my mail to go through exim4. > > i believe that the problem is exim4 is not sending the authentication > information. how can i test this? can anyone see a set that i have > missed? any help would be appreciated. It's been sometime since I set up my Exim3 for SMTP AUTH -- I believe you should find out first what type of SMTP_AUTH your ISP supports. Usually one telnets to their e-mail server, to see what their login stanza says. In my case it was SMTP_AUTH PLAIN. This and the I don't know if this helps much, I've only done this with Exim3. But Exim4 should use similar syntax. So in my 'exim.conf', I have the following; Under Authentication Configuration Section login: driver = plaintext public_name = LOGIN client_send = ": login : password" ## appropriate p/login Under Routers Configuration Section smarthost: driver = domainlist transport = remote_smtp route_list = "* ssmtp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com bydns_a" /* I remember the config wouldn't work, without 'ssmtp' appended, at least with my ISP) */ Cheers. -- Steve + Sunday Apr 18 2004 10:41:01 AM EDT + Ratos não vomitam. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: udev, autofs & module loading
Michael wrote: > Hi Michael, Hi Michael :) > normally if you insert a CD a corresponding pci hotplug event should > be generated and hotplug should load the right module. Check out the > logfiles when inserting a CD. I've rebuilt my kernel with the pci hotplugging support and loaded the pci_hotplug, shpchp, and pciehp. But I'm still not seeing any hotplug events when I insert a cd. I'm going to recompile with all of the pci hotplugging modules -- ibm, compact, and acpi -- but I'm not optimistic as I don't have ibm, or compact hardware it's sis. > On a side note: > Forget about autofs and install gnome-volume-manager. It does all what > you want and a lot more. Despite its name it also works flawlessly > under KDE and every other DE. Just try it. Check project utopia for > more information about this. I've had a little look at it but I'm not too impressed. It's doesn't unmount when things are not in use, meaning I have to unmount them manually. Also I use autofs to mount NFS shares and g-v-m doesn't does this. But saying that I do like the way that it mounts things as the user not as root meaning I can umount manually without becoming root. Maybe I need to have a look at supermount but I'm not keen on doing that (yet!) -- OoberMick "Marge, you're as beautiful as Princess Leia and as smart as Yoda." -- Homer Simpson pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lm-sensors
Alex Lorca wrote: hi all i'm trying to install lm-sensors in a debian woody 2.4.25 i made: - apt-get lm-sensors-source i2c-source - unpack and make-kpkg modules-image - install the .debs - run sensors-detect and detected the following: # 2C adapter drivers # modprobe unknown adapter Philips Parallel port adapter using Bit-shift # algorithm # modprobe unknown adapter Philips Parallel port adapter using Bit-shift # algorithm i2c-viapro # I2C chip drivers max6650 saa1064 smbus-arp asb100 but when i run /etc/init.d/modutils: Calculating module dependencies... done. Loading modules: usb-uhci input usbkbd keybdev acm modprobe: Can't locate module acm CDCEther modprobe: Can't locate module CDCEther ntfs cmpci ide-scsi usbnet modprobe: Can't locate module usbnet ipx i2c-viapro max6650 modprobe: Can't locate module max6650 saa1064 modprobe: Can't locate module saa1064 smbus-arp asb100 modprobe: Can't locate module asb100 where can i find those modules?? is ther other package to install?? I do it manually. I roll my own kernel with the Backstreet Ruby patch, so I end up with kernel 2.4.25. Then I untar lm-sensors.tar. gz into the /usr/src directory. This has all the supported modules in it. Then I run make-kpkg --revision 1 kernel_image modules_image from the /usr/src/linux-2.4.25 dir. It runs very quick because I only load the modules I need which are very few. I have set previous to this @gcc->gcc-2.95 because the lm-sensors modules have string constants in them that span several lines, to which all later compilers complain, but not 2.95. This produces 2 debs in the /usr/src dir and I just dpkg -i them. The modules one will spawn a bunch of unresolved symbols but not when you boot the kernel. Then I install: * dpkg -i i2c-2.4.25-1-386 * dpkg -i lm-sensors * dpkg -i libsensors1 * dpkg -i libsnesors-dev (The reason I do dpkg is because I only have the first 6 Sarge CD's and these debs are beyond that... :-() This gives me access to the data that is generated by the lm-sensors modules. I have written 2 Qt apps that use the data: one a wmmaker style display that sits in a fvwm wharf that displays 3 things: fan speed, CPU temp and mobo temp. Second a Qt app that dumps CPU temp to a db and one that digs it out of there to display it. You can see jpeg's of that one here: http colon slash slash esquipulas dot homeunix dot com slash modtempdisp dot nz dot jpeg and: http colon slash slash esquipulas dot homeunix dot com slash modtempdisp dot zoom dot jpeg Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eth0 dissappeared after install
Quoting Sarah Trefethen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I installed a base image (testing, kernel 2.4.25-1) on a dell Latitude > D500 (laptop with centrino package) with no problem. Essential hardware > was all detected nicely and I was able to use my ethernet device to > connect to my friendly local DHCP server and download additional packages > and perform a full range of networky type tasks. > > After the first reboot, however, trying to bring up the ethernet devices > yields this: "error when getting interface flags, no such device" > > Anyone have any hints for me? I'm new to this. > > -Sarah Hey Sarah, I had (sort of) the same thing happening to me a few days ago. I've been running debian for a while, and after I updated some stuff with apt-get, on the next reboot, eth0 was missing. Trying ifconfig eth0 up and all that failed, it was nowhere to be found. In my case (and I know of one other dude who had a similar problem) it was a problem with modules no longer being loaded by the kernel. You should try to find out what kernel module your network card needs and load that with modprobe. You may need to load some other missing modules to. If you don't know what modules to use, try booting knoppix and check out the lsmod output. After that my eth0 was back, but my problems where far from over. I couldn't use dhcp, and if I manually defined the IP settings, I could only ping it's own address and the loopback address, nothing else on the network. I finally solved it by moving the network card to another PCI slot. Since you're on a laptop, that's not going to be an option. However, the guy with a similar problem that I metioned didn't need that extra step. For him just loading the modules did the trick. I hope this gets you going. joost DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, copying, distribution, or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error please notify A.S.T.R.I.D. nv/sa immediately and then delete this e-mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stable vs. Testing Vs. Unstable
The server I administer runs Stable. My home box that I'm typing this on runs Sarge. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
