Re: ndiswrapper as a module
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 05:50:19PM -0600, Marvin Gerardo Aguero Salazar wrote: > Guys, > > I've been trying to install my wireless card. As far as I can see I > would need a module called ndiswrapper. > > I"ve been traying to install ndiswrapper as a module to no avail. > > I must be doing something wrong, but I downloaded the ndiswrapper > package off the web, but it didn"t install the module. It only installed > the program needed to install the INF driver. > > Researching further, I downloaded the ndiswrapper-source and apparently > it includes the module, but I need to compile it. Here is where I have > problems. > > The 'make all' command tells me: > > You don"t seem to have source for your kernel; install them in /usr/src, > link /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-386/build to it and try again. > > > Well, I have the source and have linked to it, but still doesn"t compile. > > Looking at the makefile it seems to me that it is looking for a file > called $(KSRC)/include/linux/versions.h > > Well, in fact that file is not under my /usr/src/kernet-source-2-4.25 tree. > > Could you please give me a hand on this? > > I want to set up my wireless card. I am new to this but I have been > researching this issue for a week already. Hi Marvin, It seems to me that you are building the modules by hand, option four in /usr/share/doc/ndiswrapper-source/README.Debian. You did read that file, right? The first option is the most preferable, although it needs you to learn make-kpkg. Not too hard, but I get the feeling you just want to get your card running as soon as possible. Well, then... for the manual build: Enter you kernel source directory, copy your /boot/config-kernelversion to .config and do a `make oldconfig && make dep'. This will make your kernel source configured for your current configuration, just as if you were about to compile a new kernel. You don't need to, of course, but now you have your version.h sitting in the right place, :-) Good luck, David -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 10:13:42PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2004-06-16T01:26:28Z, Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I tried my system with fvwm and gnome (sorry, don't have kde installed) > > with everything else unchanged, memory usage on startup before starting > > any programs as about 15MB-20MB difference, that a lot when all I have on > > my laptop is 256MB memory. > > Here's the big kicker, though: although startup takes more resources, > launching addition programs will take less additional memory. Launching > KWord from a Konsole window in a KDE session is very lightweight and loads > quickly, while doing the same from xterm in xfce will take substantially > longer. Ditto for Abiword, but with a Gnome session. Basically, if you're > going to run KDE or Gnome programs anyway, you're almost better off to log > into a full-blown "desktop environment". > Then that would depend on what programs you are using. I try to avoid kde/gnome applications that need anything more then the toolkit. Launching kword in xfce will take longer since it starts all the kde servers in the background, but it also fails to close them on exit. The only "real" gnome app I use is multi-gnome-terminal since I like the tabs and haven't found anything other the konsole of the same level which requires more daemons to run. I am in the process of checking fvwm tabs as a replacement (when I will have some time). Like I said, most of my work on the laptop is with full screen apps (14" screen), I don't use the panels, just popup menus for the programs, and I mostly do heavy mathematical work which kills the memory, I can only run samples on the 256M machines and need to do the big stuff on the desktop. Another issue is that more gui and more memory mean more power which translate to less battery time on the laptop. > > For me kde/gnome have their place for M$ refugees but I don't like them > > myself. > > Be nice, now. I haven't touched a Windows system in months, and haven't > really used one regularly since the '90s. I'm hardly what you'd call a "M$ > refugee" but I love KDE > -- > Kirk Strauser > In Googlis non est, ergo non est. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to use framebuffer on DELL PE1750??
hi all, DELL PE1750 system has an embeded ATI Rage XL. how to recompile kernel 2.4.26 with the proper things that can use framebuffer? -- P4/2.4B ELSA 528/128 512MB DDR333 240GB MSI 845PE BenQ FP557s Pioneer DVD-120A LG GCE-8320B
Re: Commercial-grade application software
jack kinnon said: > In hardware design, I'm looking for E-CAD for analog and digital > circuit design and simulation. Try electric, from http://www.staticfreesoft.com Electric is a free, GPLed (available with source) VLSI Design System that runs on Unix/Linux/Mac OS and Windoze. It is a complete Electronic Design Automation (EDA) system that can handle many forms of circuit design, including:* Custom IC layout * Schematic Capture (digital and analog) * Textual Languages such as VHDL and Verilog * Electro-mechanical hybrid layout * Programmable logic (FPGAs) ...and much more. -- Alphonse Ogulla | The box said 'Designed for Windows NT or University of Nairobi, Kenya| better,' so I installed Debian GNU/Linux +- - University of Nairobi Mail Services "You can't afford to stay offline" http://mail.uonbi.ac.ke/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nvidia driver in 2.4.26-1-686
I am using Sarge, kenel 2.4.26-1-686 and I am trying to install the nvidia driver for my graphics card: :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) The last time I installed the driver was a few months ago (before I did the present clean install) and at that time I had compile the kernel again along with the nvidia modules. Recenlty, I have noticed some packages (nvidia-*) in the avialable packages. I am wondering, do I still have to compile the kernel and its modules again to include the nvidia driver, or is there now an easier way? Currently, I have: nvidia-kernel-2.4.26-1-686 and nvidia-kernel-common for 1.0.5336-1 version of NV driver installed. After installing these, I tried to use the "nvidia" driver by changing the XFree86-config-4 file (as described in the nvidia homepage), but that didn't work (I can give the error message if necessary). thanks, ->HS -- (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding Zope 2.7 to Debian
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 02:04:03PM +1000, Brad Adler wrote: > I am having trouble adding Zope 2.7 to my Debian system. It is located at > ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/z/zope2.7. > > What is the format of the "deb" line that needs to be added to > /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure that dselect updates from this directory. > Change "stable" or "woody" or "testing" to "unstable". If you don't want your entire system upgraded to unstable, read "man apt_preferences", or better yet, search apt-get.org for a backported Zope 2.7. (I'm running Sarge, and aptitude says the latest available version of zope is 2.6.4-1.1, but my last update was three days ago.) -- Simulations are like miniskirts, they show a lot and hide the essentials. -- Hubert Kirrman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Commercial-grade application software
Incoming from Al Davis: > On Tuesday 15 June 2004 10:17 pm, jack kinnon wrote: > > That's true, there are a lot of possible > > mix-and-match. I am looking for a completed one that > > may suit my needs. Basically I have in mind an > > integrated environment like those available fr Borland > > or MS. > > Some of us think the MS or Borland approach is undesirable. > Mix-and-match allows members of a development team to customize > their personal environment, while maintainting consistency in Pick an editor; emacs or vim, or something. I know emacs has hooks to compilers, debuggers, and source code control systems; editing modes specific to various languages and file formats, etc. I imagine vim can do as well or better (ymmv). Build yourself a toolset. Whatever you end up with will likely work every bit as well on whichever language you fall in love with next week. And by the way, vim/gvim is not the crufty old boring editor you may remember. Xemacs, ditto. You don't have to rely on monolithic, highly specific apps in Linux. You get to choose your environment; the one that works for you, and the one that you don't have to learn all over again next week. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash profile how?
Incoming from Michael B Allen: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:15:24 -0400 > Paul Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > #!/bin/bash --login > > exec x-session-manager > > Yes, I think this is my problem. But I don't understand what the reasoning > is for this default configuration. Obviously if the .bash_profile and Apparently, the two are dancing around each other, attempting to not step on each other's toes. Consequently, they both end up wrong. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 02:53:00PM +1000, Matthew Joyce wrote: > > > > > For me kde/gnome have their place for M$ refugees but I don't like > > > them myself. > > > > Be nice, now. I haven't touched a Windows system in months, > > and haven't really used one regularly since the '90s. I'm > > hardly what you'd call a "M$ refugee" but I love KDE > > -- > > Kirk Strauser > > In Googlis non est, ergo non est. > > > > Please, this is not intended as a catalyst for outrage, but I have tried > KDE (debian), Gnome (redhat), MacOSX and XP, out of the four, I would > choose XP, I think it is better than the other as a gui, and just a more > mature and robust product. > > Between KDE and Gnome, I prefered Gnome, KDE seems like it's for people > who want to tweak endless settings. Don't need no graphical file manager. Don't need no icons to start apps. Don't need no system tray. Don't need no buncha crap. Don't want viruses or cookies or popups. Have P4 3.2 + 9800XT, 1 gig memory ===> Fluxbox Desktop 1 w/ 4 gnome terminals & Gbuffy. Desktop 2 w/ Firefox full screen. Sometimes keep Pan, WinVNC, and Gaim running minimized for long time. Just play all multimedia with mplayer from command line. Everything else (OpenOffice, Gimp) is transitory. Sometimes I'll set up a little dev environment for a while. Who needs anything else? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Commercial-grade application software
On Tuesday 15 June 2004 10:17 pm, jack kinnon wrote: > That's true, there are a lot of possible > mix-and-match. I am looking for a completed one that > may suit my needs. Basically I have in mind an > integrated environment like those available fr Borland > or MS. Some of us think the MS or Borland approach is undesirable. Mix-and-match allows members of a development team to customize their personal environment, while maintainting consistency in the package being produced. Mix-and-match also allows the free software model to work. As someone else said, there is kdevelop and anjuta. Apt-get will find all the other stuff they need, and make it look integrated. That's actually what MS and Borland do. They just don't tell you. They make it difficult for us who don't like the GUI. I think either will meet your needs. Please don't make me use them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
> > > For me kde/gnome have their place for M$ refugees but I don't like > > them myself. > > Be nice, now. I haven't touched a Windows system in months, > and haven't really used one regularly since the '90s. I'm > hardly what you'd call a "M$ refugee" but I love KDE > -- > Kirk Strauser > In Googlis non est, ergo non est. > Please, this is not intended as a catalyst for outrage, but I have tried KDE (debian), Gnome (redhat), MacOSX and XP, out of the four, I would choose XP, I think it is better than the other as a gui, and just a more mature and robust product. Between KDE and Gnome, I prefered Gnome, KDE seems like it's for people who want to tweak endless settings. Mostly I use mc via putty for windows on XP. mc is fantastic, and as a fond user of nc for dos, I have to say it is usually the first thing I install, regardless which distro I'm using. Matt
Re: Gnome AddressBook?
On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 16:44, Ed Sutherland wrote: > What is the Gnome application serving as an addressbook? I've tried to > apt-get gnome-pim and it no longer exists. I need something like KDE's > addressbook. Thanks. > AFAIK, in the next version of gnome (2.8), the module "evolution-data-server" will be included to provide this functionality. Currently I don't believe gnome provides a centralised addressbook, ie KDE is ahead of gnome in this area. Regards, Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems with CD-ROM and network driver during debian install
Hi,
I'm having a few problems getting debian woody to install:
(using bf24)
1.) it can't see the onboard LAN. The motherboard is a Shuttle AN35N
Ultra, and the LAN is Realtek 8201BL. I tried to look for a driver,
assuming it was something obscure. According to the manufacturer
(Realtek), there is no driver needed, because 8201BL is only a PHY chip,
whereas the driver goes with the MAC chip, which is probably embedded
in the chipset. (I'm not sure exactly what that means, I just read it on
their site). Presumably this means I need a driver for the nVidia chipset?
I wouldn't know what to get or how to use it. Shuttle does have some
drivers for their MBs, including a disc they shipped with my MB, but
they're for windows.
2.) I thought I'd just install of the CDs to get it running, and then hunt
around for any missing drivers. But the CD drive has problems when I try
to get the packages off it. I get this error message:
hdc: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error}
hdc: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x30
(repeat a few times)
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc) sector (some number)
The drive is a lite-on DVD+RW. It also works fine to boot from, just not
to read off the packages.
Incidentally, I had this same problem installing debian on another
computer, but that computer had a working network connection, so I just
installed from that. After installation, the CD drive worked fine after
that.
Any help is greatly appreciated,
Maurice
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Re: bash profile how?
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:15:24 -0400 Paul Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>For some reason bash isn't sourcing /etc/profile. In fact after adding . > >>/etc/profile to .bash_profile I don't think .bash_profile is being > >sourced>b/c it had no effect. > >> > > How are you starting the shell? If it's an xterm, it isn't a login > > shell unless it is started with "xterm -ls" or the resource > > "*vt100.loginShell: true" > > I assume you're using a gdm or xdm or kdm...someone earlier on this list > taught me this...I just wrote a .xsession file in my home directory that > looks like this: > > #!/bin/bash --login > exec x-session-manager > > and now /etc/profile and .bash_profile are sourced properly for me. Yes, I think this is my problem. But I don't understand what the reasoning is for this default configuration. Obviously if the .bash_profile and .profile exist they are meant to be sourced. But if the default behavior is not to start any logon shells what's the point? If what you suggest is the correct solution (it certainly sounds good) then why isn't it included in the default /etc/skel or created by *dm? I'm just trying to understand the reasoning here. I'm using debian on two systems now and I want to know how to administer it properly. Mike -- Greedo shoots first? Not in my Star Wars. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome AddressBook?
What is the Gnome application serving as an addressbook? I've tried to apt-get gnome-pim and it no longer exists. I need something like KDE's addressbook. Thanks. Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Latest linux for HP tablet PC Series
Hi , Can anyone suggest me whcih is the latest Linux version for HP tablet PC ,its a compaq tc1100. (touchscreen) Regards, Vijaya -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding Zope 2.7 to Debian
I am having trouble adding Zope 2.7 to my Debian system. It is located at ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/z/zope2.7. What is the format of the "deb" line that needs to be added to /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure that dselect updates from this directory. Thanks in advance. _ Smart Saving with ING Direct earn 5.25% p.a. variable rate: http://ad.au.doubleclick.net/clk;7249209;8842331;n?http://www.ingdirect.com.au/burst6offer.asp?id=8 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trouble adding window manager to GDM
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 06:07:25AM +, Adam Funk wrote: > On Monday 14 June 2004 18:30, Philipp Bliedung wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I am running Debian unstable and updated to Gnome 2.6 this past > > weekend. After the update (and an update to the newest version of gdm > > 2.4.4.7-3) I can't select any other window managers from the GDM > > login-screen. > > > > I want to add blackbox and Xfce4. > > The new version of GDM uses /etc/dm/Sessions/*.desktop files. Here's my > xfce4.desktop file, for example: I'm using the version of gdm that comes with woody. Does it work the same? And where should I look to find this documented? I haven't been able to find it. -- hendrik > > [Desktop Entry] > Name=Xfce4 > Comment=Xfce4 > Exec=/usr/bin/xfce4-session > # no icon yet, only the top three are currently used > Icon= > Type=Application > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
system sends empty emails to myself - should I worry?
On my home server I get about once every couple of days an empty email sent to myself as the regular user. The headers seem to indicate that it originated on the local machine but nothing else. I have smtp access I once setup there but currently its blocked to the world using the firewall. chkrootkit doesn't bring up anything suspicious. Should I be worried about this? Any ideas on tracking down what is trigering these emails? The system is woody running on an old world mac (beige G3). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: performing diff on parts of a file
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 02:23:11PM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > I am looking for a program/script(?) which performs diff on parts of a > file. Say I have a file of 100 lines. How to do diff on lines between > 20-30, and 50-60 without writing them into separate files. Which > software should I learn for this? sed/awk/perl? > > thanks for any ideas > raju > Only option I can think about is writing a shell script that will use head and tail to create temporary files. something like #!/bin/sh head -n $2 $1 | tail -n $3 > /tmp/$1.tmp head -n $5 $4 | tail -n $6 > /tmp/$4.tmp diff -u /tmp/$1.tmp /tmp/$4.tmp rm /tmp/$1.tmp /tmp/$4.tmp > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-16T01:26:28Z, Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tried my system with fvwm and gnome (sorry, don't have kde installed) > with everything else unchanged, memory usage on startup before starting > any programs as about 15MB-20MB difference, that a lot when all I have on > my laptop is 256MB memory. Here's the big kicker, though: although startup takes more resources, launching addition programs will take less additional memory. Launching KWord from a Konsole window in a KDE session is very lightweight and loads quickly, while doing the same from xterm in xfce will take substantially longer. Ditto for Abiword, but with a Gnome session. Basically, if you're going to run KDE or Gnome programs anyway, you're almost better off to log into a full-blown "desktop environment". > For me kde/gnome have their place for M$ refugees but I don't like them > myself. Be nice, now. I haven't touched a Windows system in months, and haven't really used one regularly since the '90s. I'm hardly what you'd call a "M$ refugee" but I love KDE -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpoZMyzm86ch.pgp Description: PGP signature
Gnome Printing Work-Around
I 'discovered' a way for Gnome to use my CUPS printer. Before, Gnome applications would only print to lpr. I discovered I could replace lpr with xpp to bring up a great printer interface -- works like a charm. Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restarting X
Michael B Allen wrote: > What is the cleanest way to restart X? In RH 7.3 I can just to init3, wait > a second, and do init 5. Is there an equivalent method with Debian? I generally use "Ctrl-Alt-Backspace". Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
Micha Feigin wrote: Gnome and KDE are also bloated everywhere else, not just memory, they kill your cpu in the process also. No doubt. Is there anything worse than seeing top run in GNOME's terminal emulator consume ~4-6% CPU on a P4 1.7 Ghz machine? It has been a while now since I last tried GNOME, but I do remember that vividly. I like my xterm full screen (without window decorations) and snappy, thank you. dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Better file manager
On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 12:13, jack kinnon wrote: > mc is not too bad. I'm not able to apt-get xfe. Is it > a 'stable' package? Mustn't be. apt-get.org is your friend packages.debian.org will allow you to search official debian to find out what Debian distros a package is in. cheers zen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Commercial-grade application software
Hi That's true, there are a lot of possible mix-and-match. I am looking for a completed one that may suit my needs. Basically I have in mind an integrated environment like those available fr Borland or MS. Cheers __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Better file manager
Hi, It's the file manager that is slow to load up because knoqueror browser comes up fast. mc is not too bad. I'm not able to apt-get xfe. Is it a 'stable' package? Cheers __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome 2.6 and keybindings
> Those are great, thank! I may try the first and I completely > forgot about the second. You reminded me that this is how > I used to do this in the past. Thanks! You are welcome! Now if I could find a way of doing something like xkeycaps and xmodmap in the consoleâ -- Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corcete Dutra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brasil +55 (11) 5685 2219 Soli Deo Gloria! +55 (44) 3028 7467 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WindowMaker w/ Exceed Colors Washed Out Green
Thanks for answering my last question now I have a hard one. If I run WindowMaker with the Exceed X server the icons, menus, doc, dialogs and so on are green. Meaning the color is all washed out. There's not red. Doesn't happen with GNOME or KDE and it doesn't happen logged into the machine locally. I've tried switching GDM to KDM without luck. Any ideas? Thanks, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cae/spice - Re: Commercial-grade application software
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Micha Feigin wrote: > > > >In hardware design, I'm looking for E-CAD for analog and digital circuit > > design and simulation. Does SPICE > >run on Linux? > > use geda ... its free and tons of other cae/cad apps ( all free and GPL'd ) http://linux-cae.net i hear, unconfirmed, UCB has a (new) spice version that runs on linux too c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash profile how?
Bill Marcum wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 11:01:06PM -0400, Michael B Allen wrote: For some reason bash isn't sourcing /etc/profile. In fact after adding . /etc/profile to .bash_profile I don't think .bash_profile is being sourced b/c it had no effect. I just wiped RH 7.3 and I don't know the shell best-practices for Debian. Please advise. I'm running testing w/ 2.4.26. How are you starting the shell? If it's an xterm, it isn't a login shell unless it is started with "xterm -ls" or the resource "*vt100.loginShell: true" I assume you're using a gdm or xdm or kdm...someone earlier on this list taught me this...I just wrote a .xsession file in my home directory that looks like this: #!/bin/bash --login exec x-session-manager and now /etc/profile and .bash_profile are sourced properly for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restarting X
/etc/init.d/gdm restart On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 21:55, Michael B Allen wrote: > What is the cleanest way to restart X? In RH 7.3 I can just to init3, wait > a second, and do init 5. Is there an equivalent method with Debian? > > Thanks, > Mike > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Restarting X
What is the cleanest way to restart X? In RH 7.3 I can just to init3, wait a second, and do init 5. Is there an equivalent method with Debian? Thanks, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 08:40:22AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > CaT wrote: > > It's more of a case of 'Isn't 240Mb (or 200 cos of squid) a bit much for > > a pretty desktop?' ;) > > That depends. To a person with ~700Mb, no. To a person with ~8Mb, yes. > However somehow this became a holy war of "OMG that's so bloated!!!" > instead of answering the OP's question; which do people prefer? > Well, if I have to chose between those two I like gnome much better then kde, but I still prefer most others to both of them. > -- > Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your >PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. > ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 11:21:35AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2004-06-15T15:52:23Z, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > He got it from someone surmising that my KDE was 200Mb without backing it > > up. > > I think you're probably right. Maybe it's that people load KDE and launch > one program and freak out at the resource usage. They don't realize that > KDE is very aggressively factored, so that first program probably loads 90% > of the resources that they'll ever use. The marginal cost for launching the > second and subsequent applications is almost null. > > For example, I hear people talking about Konqueror's "bloat", which is just > plain ignorant. Konqueror is actually pretty darn slim, but it loads a lot > of shareable components to serve all of the functionality it provides. It's > not like it really has a built-in text editor, PDF viewer, or even HTML > renderer - those are all KParts that it calls to handle a specific task. > Other applications use the same KParts to do the same tasks. To me, it > seems like a very elegant Unix-ish way of doing things. Noone complains > that a shell script is "bloated" because it implements all of the > functionality of sed, grep, and cat. Of course it is modular and konqueror is rather slim it itself as well as everything else, my problem is that if you look at the dependencies you start one kde or gnome up and it loads up half your disk into memory behind you back. I tried my system with fvwm and gnome (sorry, don't have kde installed) with everything else unchanged, memory usage on startup before starting any programs as about 15MB-20MB difference, that a lot when all I have on my laptop is 256MB memory. That is beside the configurability difference. For me kde/gnome have their place for M$ refugees but I don't like them myself. > -- > Kirk Strauser > In Googlis non est, ergo non est. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome 2.6 and keybindings
Those are great, thank! I may try the first and I completely forgot about the second. You reminded me that this is how I used to do this in the past. Thanks! Paul ->>In response to your message<<- --received from Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corsetti Dutra-- > > Em Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:10:22 +0200, Paul Yeatman escreveu: > > > I like to switch Caps Lock and Control and have done this for the > > console but it gets unswitched when Gnome (gdm) is started. > > You have at least four options: > > You can disable the XKB extension of X so that it uses the > same keyboard map as the console does. > > You can use Option "XkbOptions""ctrl:swapcaps" in > /etc/X11/XF86Config or something the like. > > You can use an ~/.xmodmap file, probably created with > xkeycaps. > > You can use the Gnome 2.6 Control Panel. > > I would prefer the first, but as I never got around > configuring my console as I wish I ended up with the second. I think > the fourth sucks, and I use the third too for both user-specific â as > opposed to system-wide â configurations and for fancy AltGr > characters. > > > -- > Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (11) 5685 2219 > Av Sgto Geraldo Santana, 1100 6/71[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 04.674-000 São Paulo, SPBRASIL > http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Paul Yeatman (858) 534-9896[EMAIL PROTECTED] == ==Proudly brought to you by Mutt== == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 03:26:12AM -0400, Chad Perrin wrote: > Simon Kitching wrote: > >On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 18:14, CaT wrote: > > > >>On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 02:50:43PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > >> > >>>s. keeling wrote: > >>> > I gave up on both of those; they're equally uncontrollable, and far > too fat to leave any room for actual applications to run. ymmv. > >>> > >>> Could've fooled me. > >>> > >>>KDE + Squid + Addzapper + other stuff... > >>> > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} free > >>>total used free sharedbuffers cached > >>>Mem:775556 767612 7944 0 131368 392300 > >>>-/+ buffers/cache: 243944 531612 > >>>Swap: 655344 26600 628744 > >>> > >>> 531Mb's not enough? Hmph. > >> > >>It's more of a case of 'Isn't 240Mb (or 200 cos of squid) a bit much for > >>a pretty desktop?' ;) > > > > > >It's always real hard to measure actual memory usage of an app. This > >240MB is presumably actually the memory taken by the kernel plus disk > >cache + all sorts of other stuff too, like SSH servers. > > > >But assuming all 240MB are used by the desktop, thats what- US$50? > >I'm willing to pay that for the chance to run a pretty desktop for the > >lifetime of that PC. And I live in a country where the US$ is about > >twice that value in real terms. > > > >Of course some people live places where that *is* an unacceptable amount > >of money. So it's good that they have options, like XFce or others [see > >the RULE project for details on running a truly "light" linux > >install...]. > > > >Regards, > > > >Simon > > > > The hell with the money. There are people running Linux on P-II 450MHz > systems that can't even carry more than 512MB RAM. That's half their > memory, right there. > And there are people doing memory intesive jobs that will eat up whatever memory you've got available ;-) I have access to a 2GB computer and I eat up all the memory there also, not to mention my 256MB laptop. Gnome and KDE are also bloated everywhere else, not just memory, they kill your cpu in the process also. Personally I like fvwm, you can great gui with under 35MB when you throw in the overhead for X, the kernel, sshd, ftpd + ... and its fast. Heard good reviews also for windowmaker and icewm. > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Commercial-grade application software
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 07:02:01AM -0700, jack kinnon wrote: > >Hi folks, > > > >I have now a working Linux system with an acceptable GUI and a broadband link for > communication, all with >freely available software. But without application software, they don't mean > much. I'm looking for good >application software in the areas of hardware and software design. > > There was an answer for that > >In hardware design, I'm looking for E-CAD for analog and digital circuit design > and simulation. Does SPICE >run on Linux? > and that > > >In software design, I'm looking for development environment for C/C++-based > programs. > kdevelop/anjuta/(x)emacs/(x)vim/... There are a LOT of mix and match options in this direction, kdevelop and anjuta are more MS studio like, the emacs vs. vim is a holy war option, very different experience, very extendable and depend on a bunch of external programs to help. The main debugger is gdb (with lots of gui wrappers available). compiler is gcc/g++ for just about anything. Whats your favorite poison in this direction, say your likings and there is probably something out there for you. > > >Recommendations and links to suitable sites would be appreciated. > > > >Cheers > > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >+++ >This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System >at the Tel-Aviv University CC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 08:40:22AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > That depends. To a person with ~700Mb, no. To a person with ~8Mb, yes. > However somehow this became a holy war of "OMG that's so bloated!!!" > instead of answering the OP's question; which do people prefer? Neither. I have both installed, because I use GNOME and KDE programs (konqueror, abiword) but for actual desktop/wm I use icewm. All the functionality I need, none of the graphical overkill I find irritating. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Error Activating XKB Configuration When Using US Intl
I'm using unstable and the latest X packages from it. When I use gnome and the keyboard applet switcher, I get an error when I try to add us international or some other layouts: ---begin error Error activating XKB configuration Probably internal X server problem. X server version data: The XFree86 Project, Inc. 4031 You are using XFree 4.3.0 There are known problems with complex XKG configurations. Try using simpler configuration or taking more fresh version of XFree software If you report this as a bug, please include: -The result of xprop -root | grep KKB -The result of gconftool-2 -R | /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/xkb ---end error -The result of xprop -root | grep KKB is: _XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "xfree86", "compaq", "us, "", "altwin:meta_win" _XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "xfree86", "compaq", "us, "", "altwin:meta_win" -The result of gconftool-2 -R | /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/xkb is: layouts = [US, en_US, us_intl _dvorak] options = [altwinaltwin:meta_win] overrideSettings = false I've tried it with simpler layouts. It still gives me problems. Anyone know a way around this? Or a bug report? I looked in xbase-clients because that's what XKB is part of but maybe I should look elsewhere? ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome 2.6 and keybindings
Em Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:10:22 +0200, Paul Yeatman escreveu: > I like to switch Caps Lock and Control and have done this for the > console but it gets unswitched when Gnome (gdm) is started. You have at least four options: You can disable the XKB extension of X so that it uses the same keyboard map as the console does. You can use Option "XkbOptions""ctrl:swapcaps" in /etc/X11/XF86Config or something the like. You can use an ~/.xmodmap file, probably created with xkeycaps. You can use the Gnome 2.6 Control Panel. I would prefer the first, but as I never got around configuring my console as I wish I ended up with the second. I think the fourth sucks, and I use the third too for both user-specific â as opposed to system-wide â configurations and for fancy AltGr characters. -- Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (11) 5685 2219 Av Sgto Geraldo Santana, 1100 6/71[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04.674-000 SÃo Paulo, SPBRASIL http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard map probs
Em Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:10:09 +0200, Piers Kittel escreveu: > The XF86Config file does contain enteries for the UK keyboard yet I > need to run setxkbmap to change it to the UK keyboard? Please check your logs (both X and xsession), there must something else going on. Perhaps at the Gnome or KDE level? -- Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (11) 5685 2219 Av Sgto Geraldo Santana, 1100 6/71[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04.674-000 SÃo Paulo, SPBRASIL http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openwebmail + postgresql configuration
Oliver Elphick wrote: On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 20:01, Tom Allison wrote: I'm running my authentication through a pgsql database with passwords that are stored as md5 hashes of the password. This authentication model is working for the dovecot imap server. I am using dovecot for my imap server. It is configured for user information from /etc/passwd and authentication from pgsql. Following a similar process under openwebmail doesn't give me much success. How do I address the problems with missing uid/gid/home fields in the database? I don't want to keep the same information in two locations (/etc/passwd, pgsql) if I can avoid it at all. How can I do this? ERROR MESSAGE: Tue Jun 15 20:23:34 2004 - [31572] (unknown) tallison - userinfo error - auth_pgsql.pl, ret -3, Can't execute SQL statement: ERROR: column "uid" does not exist Tue Jun 15 20:23:44 2004 - [31572] (unknown) tallison - login error - no such user - loginname=tallison I guess I'm wondering if anyone has run dovecot with openwebmail as they seem to be based on a somewhat similar architecture. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ndiswrapper as a module
Guys, I've been trying to install my wireless card. As far as I can see I would need a module called ndiswrapper. I"ve been traying to install ndiswrapper as a module to no avail. I must be doing something wrong, but I downloaded the ndiswrapper package off the web, but it didn"t install the module. It only installed the program needed to install the INF driver. Researching further, I downloaded the ndiswrapper-source and apparently it includes the module, but I need to compile it. Here is where I have problems. The 'make all' command tells me: You don"t seem to have source for your kernel; install them in /usr/src, link /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-386/build to it and try again. Well, I have the source and have linked to it, but still doesn"t compile. Looking at the makefile it seems to me that it is looking for a file called $(KSRC)/include/linux/versions.h Well, in fact that file is not under my /usr/src/kernet-source-2-4.25 tree. Could you please give me a hand on this? I want to set up my wireless card. I am new to this but I have been researching this issue for a week already. Thanks in advance. -Marvin PS. I also tried with kernel-source 2.6.6. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
swap partition crashed
I managed to crash my swap partition[kernel error attached if you care], is there any way to get it back[without rebooting]. The only thing I can think of is to re-run mkswap on the partition, but that instinctively seems dangerous. swapoff -a or swapoff /dev/hda7[the partition in question] does nothing. swapon /dev/hda7 errors out saying that the resource/device is busy. cat /proc/swaps gives: FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority /dev/hda7 partition 683384 20200 -1 /scratch/swap file531992 4396-2 where /scratch/swap is just a temporary solution[that should 'work' indefinitely], and free gives: total used freesharedbuffers cached Mem: 904540 895620 8920 0 52212 397228 -/+ buffers/cache: 446180 458360 Swap: 552192 24596 527596 so the busted swap partition is definitely not being used[though as you can also see the machine does have plenty of RAM]. Any ideas? Is it a problem that my working swap file has a lower priority than the busted partition? Or should I just wait until I reboot anyway and not worry about it. Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: kernel BUG at page_alloc.c:109! Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: invalid operand: Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: CPU:0 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: EIP:0010:[__free_pages_ok+114/656]Tainted: P Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: EFLAGS: 00013202 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: eax: 0109 ebx: c188ff40 ecx: edx: Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: esi: 00747900 edi: ebp: 00a3 esp: f67cfec8 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: Process XFree86 (pid: 12353, stackpage=f67cf000) Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: Stack: c02bcd20 c01370cc c02bcd20 7479 00747900 c188ff40 c0136d1d c02bcd20 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel:df8858c0 00747900 c188ff40 00a3 c013734b c188ff40 00747900 001b1000 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel:ecc01e90 0020d000 c012bc4d 00747900 00b0 0001 f67ce000 0840 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: Call Trace:[swap_free+44/80] [delete_from_swap_cache+77/112] [free_swap_and_cache+139/192] [zap_pte_range+253/261] [zap_page_range+139/240] Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: [exit_mmap+175/304] [mmput+71/176] [do_exit+127/624] [sys_exit+19/32] [system_call+51/56] Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: Code: 0f 0b 6d 00 ca 25 23 c0 8b 43 18 a9 80 00 00 00 74 08 0f 0b signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 08:40:22AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > CaT wrote: > > It's more of a case of 'Isn't 240Mb (or 200 cos of squid) a bit much for > > a pretty desktop?' ;) > > That depends. To a person with ~700Mb, no. To a person with ~8Mb, yes. > However somehow this became a holy war of "OMG that's so bloated!!!" > instead of answering the OP's question; which do people prefer? Indeed. I only posted the above in jest (hence the smilie). Anyways, my preference is none. I've used kde and gnome and I just don't see the point. There's nothing that I can see that they bring to the table that I don't have at the moment. So what do I use? Afterstep. :) It's a bit buggy atm but one of these days I'll pull my finger out and help out. It does transparency, which does me just fine for eyecandy. Now whilst it IS a window manager that appears to be all I need. I'm not sure why desktop managers exist (other then to be more like windows). -- Red herrings strewn hither and yon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome 2.6 and keybindings
Thanks! I'm using Sarge and I only have two tabs in the "keyboard preferences" window. Thus still not sure how to remap my keys. Paul ->>In response to your message<<- --received from Nicholas Lativy-- > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 02:38:42PM -0700, Paul Yeatman wrote: > > I've checked this 10 or so times. I must be missing something. How do > > I remap the keys? When I go to Applications/Desktop Preferences/Keyboard, > > a window labeled "Keyboard Preferences" emerges. There are two tabs, > > "Keyboard" and "Typing Break". Neither seem to offer key remapping. > Very strange I have 4 tabs in the "Keyboard Prefernces" window, one of > which is "Layout Options" and under this several keys can be swapped > around etc. I'm running Sid BTW. > > -- > Nicholas Lativy > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/lativy -- Paul Yeatman (858) 534-9896[EMAIL PROTECTED] == ==Proudly brought to you by Mutt== == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Auto Reply from info@jspecautosports.com
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Re: accessing a fuji digital camera
LeVA wrote: Hi! I want to download the pictures from a fuji digital camera. ... there was a lot of discussion about using the camera in usb mass storage mode. Did anybody try to use it in PC cam mode? I googled for it (even read the webcam howto) but it's hard to figure out what does it mean - which apps and what drivers are needed etc. There are two drivers for fuji on sourceforge but they are not very active... any pointers? (I already signed up for video4linux mailing list) TIA erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cannot use APM or ACPI with kernel-image-2.6.6
I'm using the stock kernel-image-2.6.6-i686 and my desktop is unable to use either APM or ACPI, both of which are built-in. BIOS has power-saving turned on, with the timer set to 30 minutes. When booting the stock kernel, I get a message that my BIOS is from before 1999 and I cannot use ACPI. Then I get a message that apm was loaded. However, even with apm loaded the desktop never goes into power-saving mode. So I tried acpi=force, and this is what I get: Linux version 2.6.6-1-686 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.3 (Debian 20040401)) #1 Wed May 12 14:57:57 EST 2004 ACPI: RSDP (v000 PTLTD ) @ 0x000f6ac0 ACPI: RSDT (v001 PTLTDRSDT 0x PTL 0x0100) @ 0x040fdd77 ACPI: FADT (v001 DELL KHAN 0x19990921 PTL 0x000f4240) @ 0x040ff78c ACPI: DSDT (v001 DellKhan 0x MSFT 0x0104) @ 0x ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x8008 Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda6 ro acpi=force Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling. Found and enabled local APIC! ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326 ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Level Trigger. ACPI: Interpreter enabled ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00) PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 *11 12) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 *10 11 12) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 *5 7 9 10 11 12) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 *9 10 11 12) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 9 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 5 PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S5) How can I configure my kernel to respond to the BIOS calls for either APM or ACPI? Thanks, Dave - End forwarded message - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome 2.6 and keybindings
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 02:38:42PM -0700, Paul Yeatman wrote: > I've checked this 10 or so times. I must be missing something. How do > I remap the keys? When I go to Applications/Desktop Preferences/Keyboard, > a window labeled "Keyboard Preferences" emerges. There are two tabs, > "Keyboard" and "Typing Break". Neither seem to offer key remapping. Very strange I have 4 tabs in the "Keyboard Prefernces" window, one of which is "Layout Options" and under this several keys can be swapped around etc. I'm running Sid BTW. -- Nicholas Lativy http://homepage.ntlworld.com/lativy signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: kde removes on dselect-upgrade
On Tuesday 15 June 2004 09:46, Cristi Banciu wrote: > On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 12:33, richard lyons wrote: > > I thought that was all in the past (as of a week ago). Have you > > done an 'apt-get update' lately? > > yes, I did and still same error. What repository do you use? err.. various, I think. Quick perusal of sources.list on various boxes shows ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/ is the main source. (I did use uk.debian until it became unreachable for several days recently.) I can say there was anything scientific about the choice though - a hangover from Knoppix in most cases. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 0.9
Daniel Klein wrote: Hoi, this is my first time on debian when a new version of some program comes out that I want immediately. I have firefox 0.8 installed, an apt-get install mozilla-firefox tells me I have the latest version, and in my apt/sources.list it says unstable after the url.. when, roughly, can I expect new stuff like this to surface in unstable? 0.8.12 just hit unstable today. I'm installing it right now. Paul Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adaptec 1210SA SATA RAID-Controller - Driver Issues
Hello, A couple of months ago I've bought a SuperMicro server. Apart from the onboard SATA-controller, my shop provided me with a basic Adaptec RAID-controller: SATA RAID 1210SA. When installing redhat9 on my system, this gives no problems since the drivers provided by adaptec are specifically compiled for redhat & suse. However, the source is not available. When now I'm trying to install Debian (Sarge Test Candidate 1), though minimal cd so that I can download packages later, the installer freezes while detecting IDE drives (module 'ide-detect'). My RAID array has been properly configured in RAID0, and my two harddrives are recognized correctly during bootup. Thus, it seems the debian installer cannot find the IDE drives and it just hangs at about 82% of the detection. Does anybody recognizes this problem, or worked around this issue??? Thanks in advance, Jan Tytgat -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 0.9
Em Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:50:14 +0200, Daniel Klein escreveu: > when, roughly, can I > expect new stuff like this to surface in unstable? Whenever the maintainers find the time, barring discovery of major bugs. There arenât schedules, and personal circumstances can influence. In other words, learn patience. -- Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (11) 5685 2219 Av Sgto Geraldo Santana, 1100 6/71[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04.674-000 SÃo Paulo, SPBRASIL http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome 2.6 and keybindings
I've checked this 10 or so times. I must be missing something. How do I remap the keys? When I go to Applications/Desktop Preferences/Keyboard, a window labeled "Keyboard Preferences" emerges. There are two tabs, "Keyboard" and "Typing Break". Neither seem to offer key remapping. Clicking "Accessibility" didn't do much for me either. Am I being an idiot and missing something here :) paul ->>In response to your message<<- --received from Patrick Lane-- > > Menu/Applications/Desktop Preferences/Keyboard > > On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 14:02, Paul Yeatman wrote: > > Hi, > > > > sorry for such a basic question but can't seem to find (what seems > > should be) a quick answer. > > > > How do I switch key bindings in Gnome 2.6 (for Sarge)? I like to > > switch Caps Lock and Control and have done this for the console > > but it gets unswitched when Gnome (gdm) is started. How do I > > switch it within Gnome, too? > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > Paul Yeatman (858) 534-9896[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > == > > ==Proudly brought to you by Mutt== > > == > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Paul Yeatman (858) 534-9896[EMAIL PROTECTED] == ==Proudly brought to you by Mutt== == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome 2.6 and keybindings
Menu/Applications/Desktop Preferences/Keyboard On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 14:02, Paul Yeatman wrote: > Hi, > > sorry for such a basic question but can't seem to find (what seems > should be) a quick answer. > > How do I switch key bindings in Gnome 2.6 (for Sarge)? I like to > switch Caps Lock and Control and have done this for the console > but it gets unswitched when Gnome (gdm) is started. How do I > switch it within Gnome, too? > > Thanks! > > -- > Paul Yeatman (858) 534-9896[EMAIL PROTECTED] >== >==Proudly brought to you by Mutt== >== > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto: Eject CD?
On 2004-06-10, s. keeling penned: > Incoming from Ed Sutherland: >> >> Still, I am unable to mount /dev/hdb or /dev/cdrom in order to play >> the audio CD. > > You don't mount audio CDs, and it's not /dev/cdrom; it's /cdrom. > Far as I know, you can (u)mount devices by specifying either the mount point *or* the device ... -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ftp with tls
Has anyone gotten this to work in setting it up using tls for proftp? The module mod_tls is built into the core of proftpd, however the example config doesn’t seen to explain where the keys’ come from? Is there another setup example of this anywhere besides the proftpd site which I am missing? Kinda lacking on docs that I can find on setting this up. Thanks.
gnome 2.6 and keybindings
Hi, sorry for such a basic question but can't seem to find (what seems should be) a quick answer. How do I switch key bindings in Gnome 2.6 (for Sarge)? I like to switch Caps Lock and Control and have done this for the console but it gets unswitched when Gnome (gdm) is started. How do I switch it within Gnome, too? Thanks! -- Paul Yeatman (858) 534-9896[EMAIL PROTECTED] == ==Proudly brought to you by Mutt== == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
Kirk Strauser wrote: > Still, one thing that Konqueror lets me do more conveniently than a shell > prompt is interact with remote filesystems. I can use the sftp:// or > fish:// methods to browse filesystems on servers located elsewhere, then > drag-and-drop files to windows browsing local Samba shares (and vice versa). > Those things are obviously *possible* from a text shell, but Konqueror makes > the process a lot easier. mc and lftp both have implemented fish. I've used both to move files between my local private server and my remote public server. :) But, yeah, D&D without caring what the object is is quite nice. There's someone out there that has put together a kernel module to implement fish, ftp, http, sftp as part of the file system. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gui interface ideas
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Loren M. Lang wrote: > I have setup a series of programs for controlling/monitoring/testing > some hardware through a serial port that are all command-line based. > The engineers working on the project were fine with this, but as they go > into production, they need a more dummy-proof interface since they will > have many people testing that don't know this as well. I was looking > for a good way to make a quick gui, ideally independent of the current > programs. I've looked at using something as simple as a shell script > wrapper using dialog for the interface to using mozilla's framework for > writing a nice gui environment. Other ideas are doing ncurses in perl > since my existing scripts are all in perl or even perk/tk or perl/gtk. > The last idea was develop a web-based interface since it's easily > accessible from other computers. i'd higly recommend the fltk toolkit. thats Fast Light ToolKit. very fast, very lightweight, easy to develop and very cross platform. its the simplest solution i've found that does more than i need. myren -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-15T18:27:51Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joachim Fahnenmueller) writes: > Not bad. But IMHO far better: > $ cd /u[tab]sh[tab] etc. > $ mc al[tab] si[tab] Note that you skipped a latter part of my message: >> Of course, my main file manager is Konsole and Zsh, so most of this is >> academic on my part. :) Still, one thing that Konqueror lets me do more conveniently than a shell prompt is interact with remote filesystems. I can use the sftp:// or fish:// methods to browse filesystems on servers located elsewhere, then drag-and-drop files to windows browsing local Samba shares (and vice versa). Those things are obviously *possible* from a text shell, but Konqueror makes the process a lot easier. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpF2boVeKYdP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 10:01:29AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2004-06-15T03:01:59Z, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Pisses me off to no end when i want to copy from folder A to folder B > > which are both in folder C and I have to open two windows and drill both > > windows down to that one subfolder and then split when I can just drill > > once, split from there, copy the files then close all. > > OK, let me make sure I've got this straight. For example, you want to copy > From /usr/share/media/music/albums/Foo1 to > /usr/share/media/music/singles/Collection2/ . You don't want to start with > two windows at "/" and drill down separately, right? > > If so, in Konqueror, you navigate to your .../albums/Foo1 folder. Select > the "Location -> Duplicate Window" menu (first menu, third item). Click the > up arrow twice to take you back to /usr/share/media/music. Click "singles" > then "Collection2". Not bad. But IMHO far better: $ cd /u[tab]sh[tab] etc. $ mc al[tab] si[tab] > > Now you have two windows without having to dig from root in each one. > Having said that, do you like or dislike that method, and why? After years > of using an Amiga, I kind of like the browser model now. I'm curious about > how other people use their file managers differently from the way I use one. > > Of course, my main file manager is Konsole and Zsh, so most of this is > academic on my part. :) > -- > Kirk Strauser > In Googlis non est, ergo non est. -- Joachim Fahnenmüller # Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into # your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 0.9
* Daniel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040615 20:45]: > this is my first time on debian when a new version of some program comes > out that I want immediately. I have firefox 0.8 installed, an apt-get > install mozilla-firefox tells me I have the latest version, and in my > apt/sources.list it says unstable after the url.. when, roughly, can I > expect new stuff like this to surface in unstable? IIRC this was just discussed in debian-devel (or was it -release? take a look at the archive yourself). To avoid transistations troubles in testing, AFAIK it is planed to upload the new firefox only to experimental, so it could take quite some time until mozilla-firefox 0.9 shows up in unstable. Yours sincerely, Alexander signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: trouble adding window manager to GDM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 14 June 2004 18:30, Philipp Bliedung wrote: Hello, I am running Debian unstable and updated to Gnome 2.6 this past weekend. After the update (and an update to the newest version of gdm 2.4.4.7-3) I can't select any other window managers from the GDM login-screen. I want to add blackbox and Xfce4. The new version of GDM uses /etc/dm/Sessions/*.desktop files. Here's my xfce4.desktop file, for example: [Desktop Entry] Name=Xfce4 Comment=Xfce4 Exec=/usr/bin/xfce4-session # no icon yet, only the top three are currently used Icon= Type=Application Thanks a lot. ..That was what I was looking for ... now I have blackbox and xfce4 in the window-manager selection. thanks again, Philipp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables - ip_conntrack_max
Hello Gilberto Villani Brito (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I read this message: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-firewall/2003/03/msg00011.html > about ip_conntrack_max (iptables). > So I would like know how can I do to my debian put 5000 in > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_conntrack_max in the boot without use > /etc/rc.boot/ With sysctl. In this case, add net/ipv4/ip_conntrack_max=5000 to /etc/sysctl.conf. This way it will be configured automatically the next time you reboot. Read the sysctl.conf man page for details. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 ICQ #17079270 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 0.9
* Ken Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Jun 15 14:27 -0500]: > Daniel Klein wrote: > >Hoi, > > > >this is my first time on debian when a new version of some program comes > >out that I want immediately. I have firefox 0.8 installed, an apt-get > >install mozilla-firefox tells me I have the latest version, and in my > >apt/sources.list it says unstable after the url.. when, roughly, can I > >expect new stuff like this to surface in unstable? > > > >Daniel > > > > > I'd guess a few weeks or so, since it just came out today. Or, you can do what I do and simply download the tarball from mozilla.org and install it and run it. I know it's not controlled by the packaging system but the Mozilla folks have done a great job keeping everything in one directory plus it can be installed in your home directory and used from there. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with DISPLAY and X
Hi, I got the old problem with authentication, X-forwarding, setting Display and so on... what I tried: first, I exchanged my ssh public keys (dsa) on both pcs, just to be sure (I did it by scp and ssh, but there was a one-line-command to do that, can someone tell me?) when I call xterm with set DISPLAY. I only get an error "Could not open display", but I dont know how to get more informations. On the destination I did a xhost +, not the best way, but... Second, I tried it with ssh -X xterm. This seems to be better at first look, it accepts the public key, but then again I get the error "Cant open display". Third I played around with xauth, took my key with xauth list and put it in on the other side with xauth add with the complete line. Is there something wrong to do it this way? The only thing I want is to read my mail on a second screen :-( Maybe I should bringup nfs and start kmail on the other side? A little bit overpowered... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 0.9
Daniel Klein wrote: Hoi, this is my first time on debian when a new version of some program comes out that I want immediately. I have firefox 0.8 installed, an apt-get install mozilla-firefox tells me I have the latest version, and in my apt/sources.list it says unstable after the url.. when, roughly, can I expect new stuff like this to surface in unstable? Daniel I'd guess a few weeks or so, since it just came out today. -- Ken Simon Homepage: http://ninkendo.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables - ip_conntrack_max
Gilberto Villani Brito, Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 02:23:22PM -0300: > Hi Debian users, > I read this message: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-firewall/2003/03/msg00011.html about > ip_conntrack_max (iptables). So I would like know how can I do to my > debian put 5000 in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_conntrack_max in the boot > without use /etc/rc.boot/ > add the following to /etc/sysctl.conf: net/ipv4/ip_conntrack_max=5000 Note the default is 32760, so setting it to 5000 would decrease the max number of connections. pgpSvl1S9acIN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: accessing a fuji digital camera
Just a month ago I bought a Fuji FinePix A330 and it is working flawlessly with my TP 390E and Debian Testing. I do load and unload the USB modules at each invocation of my script since I have no other USB devices. I have a attached a copy of the script if that will help. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Internet | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | free since January 1998. Location | Bremen, Kansas USA EM19ov | "Debian, the choice of Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | a GNU generation!" http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org #!/bin/sh # script to grab the pix from the camera echo "Please enter a directory name for the pictures." read DIRPATH if [ -d ~/Cam/$DIRPATH ]; then cd ~/Cam/$DIRPATH else mkdir ~/Cam/$DIRPATH fi su -c "modprobe usb-uhci; modprobe usb-storage; mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/cam; mv /mnt/cam/dcim/100_fuji/*.jpg /home/nate/Cam/$DIRPATH; umount /mnt/cam; modprobe -r sd_mod; modprobe -r usb-storage; modprobe -r scsi_mod; modprobe -r usb-uhci; chown -R nate /home/nate/Cam/$DIRPATH; chgrp -R nate /home/nate/Cam/$DIRPATH; chmod -x /home/nate/Cam/$DIRPATH/*.jpg"
Re: df and strange filesystem synonimity
On Tuesday 15 June 2004 02:27 pm, Bluejack wrote: > Thank you. Your guess about my fstab file was, of course, correct, > and your solution exactly what I was looking for. All healed now, > and another little piece of information added to my growing > body of linux minutia! They got to you before I did, but if it makes you feel any better, this is easy to do. I ran into almost exactly the same problem a bit back (mine was /var/tmp instead of /tmp), and knew just what dumb dumb you had done. > Question: I see that some people recommend creating a /boot filesystem > as the first filesystem on the drive. Would this then subsume the / > filesystem in the same way until one could get in and manually > correct the ordering in fstab? It seems like that would interfere > with the installation procedure. No. I'm not quite exactly sure how the whole pivot root thing works during boot, but the init scripts take care of this through some magic, and you don't need to worry about it. For example, this fstab fragment works perfectly: /dev/hda7 / ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda1 /boot ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 ... -- Michael McIntyre Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Firefox 0.9
Hoi, this is my first time on debian when a new version of some program comes out that I want immediately. I have firefox 0.8 installed, an apt-get install mozilla-firefox tells me I have the latest version, and in my apt/sources.list it says unstable after the url.. when, roughly, can I expect new stuff like this to surface in unstable? Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: df and strange filesystem synonimity
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:09:53 -0400, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: /dev/hda5 /usr defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /usr/local/ defaults 0 0 You will then get them proper. You need to remove any file in /usr/local/ when the REAL filesystem is not mounted, as that would be space used on /usr and not be available or usable since it is overlayed by another filesystem Thank you. Your guess about my fstab file was, of course, correct, and your solution exactly what I was looking for. All healed now, and another little piece of information added to my growing body of linux minutia! Question: I see that some people recommend creating a /boot filesystem as the first filesystem on the drive. Would this then subsume the / filesystem in the same way until one could get in and manually correct the ordering in fstab? It seems like that would interfere with the installation procedure. -bluejack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: df and strange filesystem synonimity
On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 13:31, Bluejack wrote: > I've tried hunting google and various archives for some > hint that someone has seen & solved this before, but I am > apparently not using the right search terms: > > I recently set up a linux box (older, 2.5 G HD, i386, PIII-233, > the latest Woody dist) and I mounted /usr and /usr/local as > separate filesystems, the former with 600 Meg of space, the > latter with 1000 Meg. However, df reports them BOTH as having > 600 Meg, and stranger, when I drop a file into one, it > increases the used space for both filesystems, as though one > were just a symlink to the other! > > Both are primary partitions, if that makes a difference. > > Has anyone seen this? > > Having played around with it a fair bit, I am thinking about > reinstalling, with one as a primary and one as a logical, > but if there is a quicker, easier solution, I'd love to > know it. Show us your /etc/fstab If you have /usr/local in order before /usr, /usr is making the /usr/local filesystem unavailable. IOW, if you have this order: /dev/hda6 /usr/local/ defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 /usr defaults 0 0 You will only see /usr filesystem amount, even though you have the other filesystem mounted as well. They will bothe show as 600MB and eat each others space up... Now, if you were to change /etc/fstab to be like this: /dev/hda5 /usr defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /usr/local/ defaults 0 0 You will then get them proper. You need to remove any file in /usr/local/ when the REAL filesystem is not mounted, as that would be space used on /usr and not be available or usable since it is overlayed by another filesystem -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: df and strange filesystem synonimity
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 10:31:52AM -0700, Bluejack wrote: > > I've tried hunting google and various archives for some > hint that someone has seen & solved this before, but I am > apparently not using the right search terms: > > I recently set up a linux box (older, 2.5 G HD, i386, PIII-233, > the latest Woody dist) and I mounted /usr and /usr/local as > separate filesystems, the former with 600 Meg of space, the > latter with 1000 Meg. However, df reports them BOTH as having > 600 Meg, and stranger, when I drop a file into one, it > increases the used space for both filesystems, as though one > were just a symlink to the other! > > Both are primary partitions, if that makes a difference. > > Has anyone seen this? > > Having played around with it a fair bit, I am thinking about > reinstalling, with one as a primary and one as a logical, > but if there is a quicker, easier solution, I'd love to > know it. > Did you mount /usr first, and then /usr/local? -- Simulations are like miniskirts, they show a lot and hide the essentials. -- Hubert Kirrman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
performing diff on parts of a file
I am looking for a program/script(?) which performs diff on parts of a file. Say I have a file of 100 lines. How to do diff on lines between 20-30, and 50-60 without writing them into separate files. Which software should I learn for this? sed/awk/perl? thanks for any ideas raju -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
Em Tue, 15 Jun 2004 03:50:07 +0200, dircha escreveu: > In GNOME try printing in the default installs of gpdf (PDF), ggv > (Postscript), Epiphany (web browser), or Abiword (word processor) to > name a few. It works nicely in the 2.6 version, now in CVS. Real spoiler here is CUPS. -- Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (11) 5685 2219 Av Sgto Geraldo Santana, 1100 6/71[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04.674-000 SÃo Paulo, SPBRASIL http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hotplug USB printer agent not remove'ing
I have a Canon BJC-3000 USB-connected printer, and for some reason it will quite frequently loose connection with the computer. I donât know if it is my toddler messing the cables, a defective cable, whatever. It shouldnât be a big deal, simply taking the cable off and on again does the trick as far as lsusb is concerned. The real, big, hugely annoying problem is called CUPS. The thing with CUPS is that whenever that happens, even if lsusb reports the printer again, it complains about âPrinter faultâ or something the like. Sometimes restarting it works, more often I have to recreate the queue. So I digged up a little bit and found out that hotplug should do it. Thus I went to /etc/hotplug/usb/ with mighty GNU Emacs, and created both a file named bjc3k.usermapâ: canon_bjc3k 0x0003 0x04a9 0x1051 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 âand a script called canon_bjc3k: #!/bin/sh case $ACTION in add) foomatic-configure -s cups -n CBJC3K -N "Canon BJC 3000" -c usb://Canon/BJC-3000 -p Canon-BJC-3000 -d s400a1.upp -o PageSize=A4 ;; remove) foomatic-configure -s cups -n CBJC3K -R ;; esac Only that whenever I take the plug off or on, it always execute the add action, never the remove one. So it is useless. ÂHints, ideas? ÂThanks in advance! -- Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (11) 5685 2219 Av Sgto Geraldo Santana, 1100 6/71[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04.674-000 SÃo Paulo, SPBRASIL http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB and debian ppc
Em Tue, 15 Jun 2004 06:10:06 +0200, r351574nc3 escreveu: > Is there anyone on that knows about which would be a suitable usb > adapter for debian ppc on a g3? I installed an I/O Gear usb adapter > and found it works in OS 9 and OS X, but gives me strange errors in > linux. Weâd need to know moreâ what exactly is this I/O Gear USB adapter, which chipset it uses, how you tried to use and error messages you got â all detailed and exact. But basically, anything [OU]HCI should work, if it doesnât it may be defective. -- Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (11) 5685 2219 Av Sgto Geraldo Santana, 1100 6/71[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04.674-000 SÃo Paulo, SPBRASIL http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
df and strange filesystem synonimity
I've tried hunting google and various archives for some hint that someone has seen & solved this before, but I am apparently not using the right search terms: I recently set up a linux box (older, 2.5 G HD, i386, PIII-233, the latest Woody dist) and I mounted /usr and /usr/local as separate filesystems, the former with 600 Meg of space, the latter with 1000 Meg. However, df reports them BOTH as having 600 Meg, and stranger, when I drop a file into one, it increases the used space for both filesystems, as though one were just a symlink to the other! Both are primary partitions, if that makes a difference. Has anyone seen this? Having played around with it a fair bit, I am thinking about reinstalling, with one as a primary and one as a logical, but if there is a quicker, easier solution, I'd love to know it. -bluejack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iptables - ip_conntrack_max
Hi Debian users, I read this message: http://lists.debian.org/debian-firewall/2003/03/msg00011.html about ip_conntrack_max (iptables). So I would like know how can I do to my debian put 5000 in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_conntrack_max in the boot without use /etc/rc.boot/ Hugs Gilberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xcdroast in kernel 2.6 doesn't work with ATAPI or SCSI - BY-PASSED
Anthony Campbell wrote: On 15 Jun 2004, Anthony Campbell wrote: It's supposed to be unnecessary to use scsi-emulation in 2.6 kernels but if I try to use ATAPI, xcdroast simply hangs with a message saying it won't work properly (this is latest version from Sid). I therefore gave up and compiled a kernel with SCSI emulation, which worked for me in kernel 2.4, but in 2.6 it fails to detect any drives at all, even though syslog shows that scsi emulation has worked. Is there any way round this or do I have to revert to a 2.4 kernel whenever I want to burn a CD? Does cdrecord work in 2.6 (I've never got into cdrecord directly yet). xcdroast resolutely refuses to run, but after a couple of hours work I got to grips with mkisofs and cdrecord and I can now burn CDs without problems. Probably rather quicker and easier than xcdroast, in fact. Anthony indeed. use mkisofs, cdrecord (and if necessary) cdparanoia. that's an commandline solution for burning cdroms. steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash profile how?
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 11:01:06PM -0400, Michael B Allen wrote: > For some reason bash isn't sourcing /etc/profile. In fact after adding . > /etc/profile to .bash_profile I don't think .bash_profile is being sourced > b/c it had no effect. > > I just wiped RH 7.3 and I don't know the shell best-practices for Debian. > Please advise. I'm running testing w/ 2.4.26. > How are you starting the shell? If it's an xterm, it isn't a login shell unless it is started with "xterm -ls" or the resource "*vt100.loginShell: true" -- Simulations are like miniskirts, they show a lot and hide the essentials. -- Hubert Kirrman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
Steven Yap wrote: On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 22:40, Paul Scott wrote: As to the original topic a strong reason for my using KDE over Gnome is having all tasks in the taskbar instead of only those on the current desktop. If someone knows how to easily fix this in Gnome I might give it another look. Errm, doesn't the "Show windows from all workspaces" option for the window list applet work for you? I don't have Gnome installed at the moment. Is the window list displayed in the taskbar? If it's something I have to use the mouse to get then it's less efficient than just looking at the taskbar and using the keyboard to switch desktops and windows. To be fair I sometimes have multiple copies of Firebird and XTerm open and use the mouse to select the one I want. Thanks, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
saslauthd : Permission denied after todays dist-upgrade - Solved
Bengt Thure'e wrote: Hej I did a apt-get dist-upgrade on my mail server this evening on my mailserver which is based upon Sarge. After this postfix can not connect to the saslauthd daemon anymore. Has anyone else encountered the same problem? Needed to do a adduser postfix sasl since postfix could not read the mux file. More information can be found here: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2003-12/2059.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: what do i need to install???
On Tuesday 15 June 2004 09:11, Cecil wrote: > I have installed my nvidia driver problem free before... But now when i > try to get my kernel headers, it says it cant find them. I have > updated... And I am running testing. > > Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.6-1-386 > > Cecil That package isn't in testing yet, but you could pull it from unstable if you want to. Justin Guerin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
saslauthd : Permission denied after todays dist-upgrade
Hej I did a apt-get dist-upgrade on my mail server this evening on my mailserver which is based upon Sarge. After this postfix can not connect to the saslauthd daemon anymore. Has anyone else encountered the same problem? I checked the /var/cache/apt/archives directory for the latest installed packages: mollie:/var/cache/apt/archives# ls -lart | tail 417982 Jun 11 08:45 nano_1.2.3-2_i386.deb 983520 Jun 12 11:21 libsnmp-base_5.1.1-2_all.deb 548116 Jun 12 11:22 fetchmail_6.2.5-8_i386.deb 150058 Jun 15 23:42 libsasl2-modules_2.1.18-4.1_i386.deb 110056 Jun 15 23:42 sasl2-bin_2.1.18-4.1_i386.deb 135794 Jun 15 23:42 libcyrus-imap-perl21_2.1.16-6_i386.deb I did a dpkg -i libsasl2 sasl2 libcyrus to the earlier version, but this did not help. In the end I went back to the latest Sarge by doing another dist-upgrade. Do anyone have any suggestions or advice on this issue? I can send e-mails by using squirrelmail, but I need the saslauth to confirm all users who wants to send by their e-mail clients. Thanks in advance /Bengt I have postfix in chroot, and I also have two postfix queues with mailscanner in between. mollie:/etc/postfix/sasl# pwd /etc/postfix/sasl mollie:/etc/postfix/sasl# more smtpd.conf pwcheck_method: saslauthd mech_list: plain login mollie:/etc/postfix/sasl# ls -la /var/run/saslauthd lrwxrwxrwx1 root sasl 37 Jun 16 00:56 /var/run/saslauthd -> /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd/ mollie:/etc/postfix/sasl# ls -la /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd/ total 12 drwx--x---2 root sasl 4096 Jun 16 01:17 . drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 May 5 15:26 .. srwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jun 16 01:17 mux -rw---1 root root0 Jun 16 01:17 mux.accept -rw---1 root root6 Jun 16 01:17 saslauthd.pid mollie:/etc/postfix/sasl# ps -eaf | grep saslau root 12341 1 0 01:17 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a shadow root 12342 12341 0 01:17 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a shadow root 12343 12341 0 01:17 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a shadow root 12344 12341 0 01:17 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a shadow root 12345 12341 0 01:17 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a shadow root 13059 12991 0 01:31 pts/200:00:00 grep saslau extract from /var/log/mail.log Jun 16 01:32:02 mollie postfix/smtpd[13063]: connect from unknown[192.168.20.2] Jun 16 01:32:03 mollie postfix/smtpd[13063]: TLS connection established from unknown[192.168.20.2]: TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits) Jun 16 01:32:10 mollie postfix/smtpd[13063]: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied Jun 16 01:32:10 mollie postfix/smtpd[13063]: warning: SASL authentication failure: Password verification failed Jun 16 01:32:10 mollie postfix/smtpd[13063]: warning: unknown[192.168.20.2]: SASL PLAIN authentication failed Jun 16 01:32:11 mollie postfix/smtpd[13063]: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied Jun 16 01:32:11 mollie postfix/smtpd[13063]: warning: unknown[192.168.20.2]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: raid0 initialization
* snip * >It sounds simple, but if you get into trouble, you might want to search the >archives for problems other people have had, or you might want to check out >this link: >http://rootraiddoc.alioth.debian.org/ > >It's quite complete, very recent, and a good resource. I recommend reading >it, unless you want to test your backup strategy. ;-) > will read it thanks! i don't want to test my backup strategy ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange problem with sound card
On Monday 14 June 2004 23:57, j smith wrote: > i have SB 16 and Debian 3.0. after compiling kernel > 2.4, i put the following to /etc/modules: > > sound > uart401 > sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 > > it seems that sound driver works, because lbreakout2's > sound effect is OK and xawtv'TV sound is OK. but i > can't record TV sound in xawtv. it complains:"oss: > read: Input/output error". later i found "cat foo.au > >/dev/audio" does not work, with dmesg, i found > > "Sound:DMA(output)time out - IRQ/DRQ config error?" > > please help me! > I would try changing the IRQ value to whatever else is available and seeing if that helps. You might also want to try changing the DMA value, too. I had to go through nearly all combinations before I got my sound card to work. Hope that helps, Justin Guerin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accessing a fuji digital camera
On Tuesday 15 June 2004 05:06 am, Adam Funk wrote: > On Tuesday 15 June 2004 12:40, Enrico Zini wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 05:46:37PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote: > >> > And after I try to mount it (mount /dev/sda /mnt/fuji): > > > > mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/fuji > > > > You must use "sda1", not "sda": the data is on the first (and only) > > partition of the "disk". > > When I use my USB card reader, I usually go through this: > > $ mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/card > mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist > > $ mount /dev/sda /mnt/card > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, >or too many mounted file systems > > Then /dev/sda1 magically appears and I can mount it: > $ mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/card > > If I umount it and put another card in without waiting too long, I can > still mount /dev/sda1, but but that device disappears after a few > hours. Is this normal? Can it be fixed? Yes it is normal, no it can't be fixed. It will return when you plugin your device again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-15T15:52:23Z, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > He got it from someone surmising that my KDE was 200Mb without backing it > up. I think you're probably right. Maybe it's that people load KDE and launch one program and freak out at the resource usage. They don't realize that KDE is very aggressively factored, so that first program probably loads 90% of the resources that they'll ever use. The marginal cost for launching the second and subsequent applications is almost null. For example, I hear people talking about Konqueror's "bloat", which is just plain ignorant. Konqueror is actually pretty darn slim, but it loads a lot of shareable components to serve all of the functionality it provides. It's not like it really has a built-in text editor, PDF viewer, or even HTML renderer - those are all KParts that it calls to handle a specific task. Other applications use the same KParts to do the same tasks. To me, it seems like a very elegant Unix-ish way of doing things. Noone complains that a shell script is "bloated" because it implements all of the functionality of sed, grep, and cat. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpBjKMupQZ1d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: raid0 initialization
On Tuesday 15 June 2004 08:56, Harland Christofferson wrote: > *snip* > > > > >What is the partition type on /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdc1? If they > >are not both > >FD (Linux raid autodetect), your raid array won't work. > > the partition type? okay ... new territory for me. they are ext2 > w/ ID of 83. they are the boot partitions. > You will need to change them to ID of FD using a program like cfdisk in order to use them in a raid array. > >Note that, if you have data on /dev/hda1 that you want to keep, > >you should > >mark that disk as a failed disk. Then, when you make your raid > >array, data > >won't get erased from /dev/hda1. You can then mount the disk and > >the raid > >and copy the data from one to the other. Once your data is on the > >raid, > >mark the /dev/hda1 disk as a live disk, and the raid will re-sync, > >and your > >data will be intact. > > i am really glad this did not work the first time. i DO want to keep > the data intact on /dev/hda. should i mount each partition of /dev/hdc? > what i want to have occur is all partitions on /dev/hda be mirrored > on /dev/hdc. > This is pretty standard. You need to partition /dev/hdc to match /dev/hda with respect to partition sizes, but make the partition types FD. For each partition, create an md device with the /dev/hdcx partition as disk 0 and /dev/hdax partition as disk 1, and be sure to mark disk 1 as a failed disk. Then, use mkraid to build the array. Note that if you have /dev/hdax mounted and you don't properly have the partition labeled as a failed disk, building the raid will fail and you won't lose data. After you build the array, format it with whatever file system type you're going to use. Then mount the array somewhere, and begin to copy your data over to the array. When all your data is copied, modify your boot loader to point to the raid that contains /boot and /, and reboot. Now, you should be able to unmount all partitions from /dev/hda. Once you have done that, change the partition ID to FD, remove the failed marker from the raid config, and the drives will sync. At that point, you're done. It sounds simple, but if you get into trouble, you might want to search the archives for problems other people have had, or you might want to check out this link: http://rootraiddoc.alioth.debian.org/ It's quite complete, very recent, and a good resource. I recommend reading it, unless you want to test your backup strategy. ;-) Good luck, Justin Guerin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please test Cernlib & PAW on AMD64 and "exotic" arches (sample test included)
Hi all, I hacked out a port of Cernlib for AMD64, and it should now be available in the AMD64 archive (thanks to Andreas Jochens for building it). If anyone who has an Opteron machine could do some testing on it for me, please let me know the results. I'm particularly interested in whether the FORTRAN interpreter built into PAW works correctly. I would also welcome test reports from any of these other architectures that I don't have access to myself (not being a DD), especially the 64-bit ones: ia64, alpha, hppa, mips, mipsel, arm, s390, powerpc (G5 only) Here is a minimal test you can try even if not familiar with PAW or FORTRAN. Note that in pawtest.f each line begins with 6 spaces except for "10 CONTINUE" which begins with 3 spaces. (It's a recursive function to generate the Nth triangular number, for those who are wondering.) $ sudo apt-get install paw $ cat << EOF > pawtest.f SUBROUTINE PAWTEST(N) SUM=0. DO 10 I=1,N SUM=SUM+I 10 CONTINUE PRINT *,SUM END EOF $ paw [PAW banner output snipped] Workstation type (?=HELP) =1 : [hit ENTER once] [More PAW output snipped] [A graphics window will open if you have a $DISPLAY; it can be minimized and ignored.] PAW > call pawtest.f(5) 15.0 PAW > call pawtest.f77(5) 15. PAW > quit $ The important requirement is that both PAW commands above should output the real number 15.0 (with some arbitrary number of zeros after the decimal point). Please email results directly to me so as not to clutter the mailing lists. Be sure to let me know your architecture and sub-arch. On 64-bit sub-arches whose .debs are compiled for 32-bit (sparc64, s390x, powerpc G5), you may first need to "touch /etc/disable_64_gcc" as root for the test to succeed. Please also let me know how the existence and non-existence of that file affect the test results. thanks and regards, -- Kevin B. McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Physics Department WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~kmccarty/Princeton University GPG: public key ID 4F83C751 Princeton, NJ 08544 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6.6 ignores tulip (DC21041)
On Monday 14 June 2004 11:38 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm stumped on this one. I've been playing around for a while with
> 2.6.6 on AMD (x86), trying to get it to recognise my DEC 21041
> (tulip) PCI network card. FWIW, 2.4.25 and earlier all work fine with
> it.
David Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you using DHCP with woody? If so, edit /sbin/dhclient to include
> 2.6.x kernels.
Good point, but no, I'm running testing, and it's a more basic problem
than DHCP. Packets appear on the wire but nothing's ever received via
the card. You'll appreciate that this following is manually cut'n'paste,
with bits chopped out where I feel it's appropriate:
{...booting...}
| de2104x PCI Ethernet driver v.07
| de0 :SROM leaf offset 30, default media 10baseT auto
| de0: media block #0: BNC
| de0: media block #1: 10baseT-FD
| de0: media block #2: 10baseT-HD
| eth0: 21041 at 0xc88ca000, 00:c0:f0:37:93:1f, IRQ 10
|de2104x: loaded successfully
|...some sound and usb stuff...
|
| Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter
| Configuring networking interfaces...ISC DHCP Client 2.0pl5
| ...
|
| eth0: set link 10baseT auto
| eth0:mode 07ffc0040, sia 0x10c4,0xef01,0x,0x0008
| eth0:set mode 0x7ffc0040, set sia 0xef01,0x,0x8
| irq 10: nobody cared
| Call Trace:
|[ __report_bad_irq+0x2a/0x90
|...
|
| Disabling IRA #10
| NET: Registered protocol family 17
| Listening on LPF/eth0/...
{...dhcp attempts to grab an address but never gets any answers...}
Looking through this again as I copy-type it, it looks like the card
is registered on IRQ 10, but the driver's not claimed it in time. So
the kernel disables it and voila I never get any data received interrupts.
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Chris
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Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
Kirk Strauser wrote: > I really don't know where people get this "KDE is slow" stuff to be honest. He got it from someone surmising that my KDE was 200Mb without backing it up. So, here's some rumor control. I closed down KDE and killed all apps that had been running. Ran free. Then logged back into my KDE session and ran free again. No KDE. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:775556 713064 62492 0 133760 378544 -/+ buffers/cache: 200760 574796 Swap: 655344 26540 628804 w/KDE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:775556 728528 47028 0 133812 378640 -/+ buffers/cache: 216076 559480 Swap: 655344 26540 628804 16Mb. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Gnome 2.2.6 Unmet Dependencies?
I've been trying to apt-get (through mirrors.kernel.org) Gnome 2.2.6 for the ppc. Debian says there is an unmet dependency: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: Depends: gnome-games (>=1:2.6.0) but 1:2.4.3-3 is to be installed" What do I do? Thanks. Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
Simon Kitching wrote: > It's always real hard to measure actual memory usage of an app. This > 240MB is presumably actually the memory taken by the kernel plus disk > cache + all sorts of other stuff too, like SSH servers. Nope, the disk caches and such are on the free line. The 240Mb isn't all KDE. That's why I said "and stuff" like screen, a few zsh sessions, slrn, vim in there somewhere, Pan, the X server (in this case TightVNC's) plus the other services on that machine (Squid being the main one since it runs adzapper, too). So on that part you're right. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
CaT wrote: > It's more of a case of 'Isn't 240Mb (or 200 cos of squid) a bit much for > a pretty desktop?' ;) That depends. To a person with ~700Mb, no. To a person with ~8Mb, yes. However somehow this became a holy war of "OMG that's so bloated!!!" instead of answering the OP's question; which do people prefer? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
