Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[Duggan]

John Summerfield wrote:
Rus Foster wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Duggan wrote:
 

I know that this is a really n00bish question, but I have to ask.  
What is the command that limits output from a command to just a page 
at a time, like the /p command in DOS?

Thankyou
Elijah
  

Try
cmd | less
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cmd | less
-bash: cmd: command not found

Yeah, thats what I did first and said it didn't work.  From all the 
imput I think the following is a clear way to express it:

/command/ 2>&1 | less
where:
- the "command" is the specific function or action to be performed
- "2>" is the instruction to direct (the errors?) to stderr
- "&1" is the instruction to duplicate these error messages to stdout
- "| less" is the instruction to output the result of the command to less.
Is this right?  Just out of curiosity what exactly is stderr and stdout?
You guys are great!
Elijah
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Identify which file uses a specific disk block

[Toshiro]

Is it possible to identify which file uses a specific disk block?

My hard disk has a defective block, I'm trying to use partimage to copy the 
partition to a new disk, but the copy fails when it reaches the bad block.
I'd like to know the file who uses this block, so I can delete it.

Toshiro.

PS: I'm using reiserfs (debian sid).


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Re: LILO wierd ......

[cep welly]

Robert William Hutton wrote:
cep
welly wrote:
  
  Anybody rebooting last couple days ?

Last apt-upgrading, I'd got  lilo upgraded ( with kernel too )... Start
to debian again after

driving NFS Underground on my dual winblows, LILO showed only two
options to boot :

Linux and WinXP.

Was, I had LinuxOLD which refered to my previous ( fresh install )
debian.

Now, it's gone. I'd checked on lilo.conf and there's still LinuxOLD
option there uncommented out.

For now, it doesn't matter, but someday if I'm messing around with my
debian I know I can't revert

to my fresh install to fix..

  
  
Run lilo (or lilo -v) as root, and see what it says.  It should tell
you if it's skipping that LinuxOLD for some reason.
  
  
  

wookie:~#lilo -v 

Calling map_insert_data
Warning: The boot sector and map file are on different disks.

Boot image: /vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.26-1-686
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.img-2.4.26-1-686
Added Linux *

Skipping /kernel2.4
Boot other: /dev/hda1, on /dev/hda, loader CHAIN
Added WinXP

Writing boot sector.
/boot/boot.0300 exists - no boot sector backup copy made.

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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[Silvan]

> There's also the important point that this does something somewhat
> different:-)
> 2>1

:)

->find ~ -name 1
/home/silvan/1
/home/silvan/data/swf/1
/home/silvan/pixmaps/1

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apm problems after sid upgrade

[dzpost]

I'm running sid on an IBM T41 ThinkPad.  Everything was working fine
until I decided to do an 'apt-get upgrade' a few days ago.  It seemed
to go OK, but now when I try to resume after suspend, the system is
frozen; the only thing I can do is power down.

Waking up from standby mode (instead of suspend) seems to work except
that the time gets set back several hours.

I didn't change the kernel.  I don't think apmd was upgraded.  Before
upgrading I pinned the packages that apt-listbugs said had bugs that
sounded like they mattered.

Can anyone suggest what the upgrade could have changed that would
cause apm to stop working?


There were some other mysteries after the upgrade which may or may not
be related to the apm problem:

- Before the upgrade, I was using OSS sound drivers the i810_audio
module.  After the upgrade, something is causing the ALSA modules to
be loaded (snd-intel8x0 and several other snd-* modules), which don't
work unless also I manually load the ALSA OSS-emulation modules
(snd-pcm-oss, snd-mixer-oss).  Meanwhile, during boot-up, there are
multiple errors from trying to load i810_audio, which apparently
conflicts with the ALSA modules.

What could be causing these ALSA modules to load?  This didn't happen
before the upgrade.  I can't find mention of the snd-* modules in
/etc/modules.conf or /etc/init.d or anywhere else I've looked.

- I also see repeated error messages during boot-up for failed
attempts to load the following two modules:

radeonfb
hw_random

As far as I can tell this isn't causing problems (unless these are
somehow connected with my apm problem) aside from making the boot
sequence take longer.  But I do wonder what's causing the kernel to
try to load them.  These are also not mentioned in /etc/modules.conf
or /etc/modules.  I don't think this was happening before the upgrade,
but I'm not certain.

I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to find out why these modules
are trying to be loaded.

Thanks.

-David
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Re: Can't connect to my IMAP folders with Evo...?

[Paul Smith]

%% John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  js> Pls do not cc: me. I'm on the list.

Sorry...

  js> I don't recall that you said fetchmail works with the same folders
  js> Evolution fails on.

The error is that login fails, so it doesn't get far enough to specify a
particular folder.

  js> It's also the case you can actually get your work done with any of
  js> the MUAs I suggested. I don't care which or how many you try, but
  js> if any works than you have a workaround while you get the problem
  js> fixed properly.

Well, I have fetchmail to get mail...

  js> If you don't like my advice, don't take it and don't respond.

Why can't I respond?

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Re: X11 Mouse Cursor in gnome 2.6 (SOLVED)

[David Purton]

On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 06:12:58PM +0930, David Purton wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Here's an odd problem I haven't found a work around for:
> 
> HP Laptop
> S3 Savage/IX-MV video card
> Sid
> X SAVAGE video driver using the MobileSavage engine
> Gnome 2.6
> Login using GDM
> 
> When I login, a black cross X11 mouse cursor appears in the middle of
> the screen in addition to the white gnome pointer.
> 
> This cursor is not present at the GDM screen.
> 
> I can't move it and the gnome mouse pointer goes behind it.
> 
> After about 10 mins it disappears and all is good, but it's quite
> annoying for the first 10 mins of a session.
> 
> I'm figuring this is either something to do with the X setup on this
> laptop or the driver for the video card, since I don't see this on my
> desktop machine.
> 
> 

For the sake of the archives,

add option "HWCursor" "false" to the Device section of XF86COnfig-4.

cheers

dc



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Re: CPU speed

[Robert William Hutton]

Christian Christmann wrote:
I'm looking for a tool to adjust the speed of my
CPU depending on if my notebook is running with a 
battery or without.
Are there any debian packages I could use?
I have a Toshiba laptop, so I use toshset.
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Re: Asking about RSH on Linux?

[Robert William Hutton]

Hai Nguyen wrote:
Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I have an alphaserver with 6 node in which I have installed Linux but I 
have a problem with "rsh" command. When I type:
#rsh node5
it tell me that the conection refused...
Mean while, "ping" command run ok
#ping node5 - run OK
#ping node2 - run OK
Can you tell me what can I do to overcome this problem and Where 
I can find the information of "RSH on Linux" or Who can tell me the 
answer? Thank you very much.
I look forward to hearing your answers soon.
Go to www.google.com.  Type rsh linux in the search box.  Click search. 
 Some relevant results:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/1/2001/07/4/4629
http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_rsh.htm
I think that rsh and rlogin may use the telnet daemon on the remote host 
(though I'm not sure).  This is insecure.  You should use ssh instead.

Ping only tells you if the machine is up and returning ICMP requests. 
It's got nothing to do with whether the remote machine is running the 
daemon that you need.

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Re: systemwide umask definition

[Jim McCloskey]

|>I noticed that if i open a
|> terminal session, check the umask, it will not be set according to
|> what i put in /etc/profile or /etc/login.defs. If, however, i su -
|> into the same user, i see th correct umask. That leads me to the
|> guess that kde sets a umask differently and independant of the
|> login / standard umask. So the precise question would be: Where can
|> i define a system wide umask for kde sessions?

Isn't it true that the shells run by terminal-emulators in KDE are not
login shells?  By default, at any rate.  If that's the case, then the
user's local configuration files will not be sourced, nor, I think,
/etc/login.defs nor /etc/profile.

When a bash shell that is not a login shell is started, it reads and
executes commands from /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc, if these files
exist. Is there a umask value defined in these files?

Jim





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Re: Asking about RSH on Linux?

[Paul Johnson]

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Hai Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can you tell me what can I do to overcome this problem and Where I can find the
> information of "RSH on Linux" or Who can tell me the answer? Thank you very
> much.

ssh has pretty much supplanted everything telnetd and rshd provided,
since ssh has the same general functionality but encrypted.  Just use
SSH instead.
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Re: LILO wierd ......

[Robert William Hutton]

cep welly wrote:
Anybody rebooting last couple days ?
Last apt-upgrading, I'd got  lilo upgraded ( with kernel too )... Start 
to debian again after
driving NFS Underground on my dual winblows, LILO showed only two 
options to boot :
Linux and WinXP.
Was, I had LinuxOLD which refered to my previous ( fresh install ) debian.
Now, it's gone. I'd checked on lilo.conf and there's still LinuxOLD 
option there uncommented out.
For now, it doesn't matter, but someday if I'm messing around with my 
debian I know I can't revert
to my fresh install to fix..
Run lilo (or lilo -v) as root, and see what it says.  It should tell you 
if it's skipping that LinuxOLD for some reason.

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Re: Thttpd and PHP

[Jacob S.]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 05:08:27 +0300
Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 08:30:48AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> > Jacob S. wrote:
> > 
> > >I'm afraid I'm not familiar with thttpd, but here are some things I
> > >would check. 
> > >
> > >1) Is there anything in the config file that tells thttpd what file
> > >extensions should be treated as .cgis? You will probably want to
> > >add php to this list.
> > >
> > This might work::
> > 
> > cgipat=*.php
> > 
> 
> I don't think that php can run as cgi. I seem to recall though some
> php support through cgi (you run the php page through a cgi to process
> it). You should look at that option.

I'm sorry? Do you mean it can't run as a cgi when the webserver is
thttpd? 

Because php can definitely run as a cgi - which is why there is a
package in Debian called php4-cgi. I've found it to be great for testing
an occasional script on my desktop, before uploading it to the server.
I've also seen others mention using it for the purpose of having scripts
run under a different username from apache, using Apache's SuExec
feature.

I may be misunderstanding what you were trying to say though.

HTH,
Jacob

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Asking about RSH on Linux?

[Hai Nguyen]

Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have an alphaserver with 6 node in which I have installed Linux but I have a problem with "rsh" command. When I type:
#rsh node5
it tell me that the conection refused...
Mean while, "ping" command run ok

#ping node5 - run OK
#ping node2 - run OK
Can you tell me what can I do to overcome this problem and Where I can find the information of "RSH on Linux" or Who can tell me the answer? Thank you very much.
I look forward to hearing your answers soon.
 
Nguyen Thanh Hai
Le Qui Don University
Hanoi, Vietnam
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LILO wierd ......

[cep welly]

Anybody rebooting last couple days ?
Last apt-upgrading, I'd got  lilo upgraded ( with kernel too )... Start 
to debian again after
driving NFS Underground on my dual winblows, LILO showed only two 
options to boot :
Linux and WinXP.
Was, I had LinuxOLD which refered to my previous ( fresh install ) debian.
Now, it's gone. I'd checked on lilo.conf and there's still LinuxOLD 
option there uncommented out.
For now, it doesn't matter, but someday if I'm messing around with my 
debian I know I can't revert
to my fresh install to fix..

cheers,
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Re: Thttpd and PHP

[Micha Feigin]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 08:30:48AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> Jacob S. wrote:
> 
> >I'm afraid I'm not familiar with thttpd, but here are some things I
> >would check. 
> >
> >1) Is there anything in the config file that tells thttpd what file
> >extensions should be treated as .cgis? You will probably want to add php
> >to this list.
> >
> > 
> >
> This might work::
> 
> cgipat=*.php
> 

I don't think that php can run as cgi. I seem to recall though some php
support through cgi (you run the php page through a cgi to process
it). You should look at that option.

> 
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> 
> Cheers
> John
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Re: wifi & kernel 2.6.* kernel

[Rodney D. Myers]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 10:12:48 +0800
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> 
> >I've been searching for my wifi modules, and they all seem to be geared
> >towards the 2.4.* series of kernel's.
> >
> >doing an "apt-cache search wlan" shows wlan*2.4.*
> >
> >The card was "found' and identified in the net install, but I used the
> >built-in lan card to install. will I need the source to build into
> >2.6.3? 



> 
> Dolphin:~# 
> 
> This will serve to identify (better than the box it came in) your card. 
> Then, and only then, someone might be able to tell you which driver to 
> use.

John, Thanks for this tip, and your past support in OS/2.

sudo lspci -s 00:09.0 -v -v
:00:09.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 
01)
Subsystem: Netgear: Unknown device 4105
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- 
SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR-  
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Re: Newbie problems galore

[David A. Cobb]

Kent West wrote:
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I still haven't figured out how to make the Linux data visible from
within Windoze, other than scribbling files from Linux onto one of the
VFAT-mounted drives.
  

And you won't, unless you resort to third-party products (I've heard 
of such utilities, but have never used them); Microsoft doesn't seem 
to think there's any reason to be able to read any other type of 
partition other than Microsoft-branded flavors.
I thought I saw someone in the free world working on an ext3 driver for 
windows (installable fs, I assume).  But my email bounced.  Anyway, it's 
not very mature - obviously.


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Re: wifi & kernel 2.6.* kernel

[John Summerfield]

Rodney D. Myers wrote:
I've been searching for my wifi modules, and they all seem to be geared
towards the 2.4.* series of kernel's.
doing an "apt-cache search wlan" shows wlan*2.4.*
The card was "found' and identified in the net install, but I used the
built-in lan card to install. will I need the source to build into
2.6.3? 
 

Find your wireless card:
Dolphin:~# lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
:00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)
Dolphin:~# 
For your wireless card:

Dolphin:~# lspci -s 00:0e.0 -v -v
:00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30)
   Subsystem: Gateway 2000: Unknown device 7056
   Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- 
SERR+ FastB2B-
   Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- 
Dolphin:~# 

This will serve to identify (better than the box it came in) your card. Then, and only 
then, someone might be able to tell you which driver to use.

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Re: Newbie problems galore

[David A. Cobb]

Ryan Waye wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:19:03 -0400, David A. Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Hi!
   I purchased a CD set of "Debian 3.0 "Woody" Official" and started to
install it.
   First woe: my hardware is by nVidia; the Official kernel on the CD
is 2.4.18, nVidia provides a driver for 2.4.20/21 and the Debian archive
has nVidia patches for 2.4.26.  My plan is to go to .26, but in the
meanwhile I can't use X Windows and I can't access my NIC, so all that
stuff requires rebooting into Windows.  So, my first question: given the
kernel images on $MIRROR/Debian/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.26-i386, how do
I change my kernel?
   

There are literally tons of guides on this.  Just google it and you
will get all the info you need
 

More than I need.  That's the problem.  And Googling Debian.org for 
"nVidia" what I find is a thousand reasons to wish I had either a newer 
kernel or a different card-set.

 

   I need to pass things back-and-forth between Linux and Windoze.  I
see references to VFAT FS on the web site, but for the life of me, I
can't find a trace of the software.  It's really bad to have to play
games with tar at both sides of the route in order not to munge up the
"magic" pathnames.  PLEASE don't tell me that the evil beast of Redmond
has buried VFAT under a patent claim!!  If not, please, where can I find it?
   

I am pretty sure linux can read the default FAT32 and NTFS partitions
without any trouble, but I may be wrong.
 

Half and half.  VFAT is built into the kernel and accesses FAT32; NTFS 
is there but is unhappy with my partitions.  Perhaps because of a 
version difference (NTFS 2.1 in WinXP - mine, vs NTFS 2.0 in WinNT 4, 
Win98).  Anyway, what I read on line makes me nervous about allowing my 
NTFS partitions to be mounted "R/W" from Linux.

 

   Right now, I've managed to hork up my package data so dpkg gets hung
up trying to fix things.  My best bet seems to be to restart from
scratch.  How do I get dpkg / apt / aptitude to clean my machine
totally, or what files should I remove to make all this stuff go away?
Or, would it really be quicker to re-init my partitions and start again
from the CD?
   

No! Don't start over, anything can be fixed.  Try these commands in
this order:(As superuser)
apt-get clean
apt-get check
apt-get dist-upgrade
post the results of these commands here.

Ryan Waye
 

The result of those was several screens full sailing by.  However, when 
I used aptitude to look over the situation, the things that were iffy 
before are still marked and aptitude still hangs after printing 
"Preconfiguring modules . . .".

Because of the total of these things, I'm going back to the CD's this 
time only.

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Re: Newbie problems galore

[David A. Cobb]

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2004-07-15, David A. Cobb penned:
[snip]
I don't have the brain power right now to answer your question about
kernels ... so moving on ...
 

   I need to pass things back-and-forth between Linux and Windoze.  I
   see references to VFAT FS on the web site, but for the life of me,
   I can't find a trace of the software.  It's really bad to have to
   play games with tar at both sides of the route in order not to
   munge up the "magic" pathnames.  PLEASE don't tell me that the
   evil beast of Redmond has buried VFAT under a patent claim!!  If
   not, please, where can I find it?
   

Vfat support isn't provided as an application; it's a capability you
need to have enabled in the kernel.  I would think the kernel image you
have would include that support by default.
What are the relevant /etc/fstab lines and 'mount' commands you've tried
to use?
For example, I have this in my /etc/fstab :
/dev/sda1   /cigar  vfatdefaults,user,noauto0   0
It allows me to mount my usb keychain drive, formatted as vfat, onto my
linux system.  Then I just type
mount /cigar
and I have access to the drive.
 

Yeah.  I swear it didn't work the first time but it does now.  I 
converted a lot of disk space ( backwards ) to FAT32 to create my 
space.  Actually, I'm making my whole "/var" file system shared between 
the two because I'm planning to do some cross-platform stuff and my 
installation looks very *nix-y already.

 

   Right now, I've managed to hork up my package data so dpkg gets
   hung up trying to fix things.  My best bet seems to be to restart
   from scratch.  How do I get dpkg / apt / aptitude to clean my
   machine totally, or what files should I remove to make all this
   stuff go away?   Or, would it really be quicker to re-init my
   partitions and start again from the CD?
   

Hard to answer without you pasting some example of your horkage.
 

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Re: Newbie problems galore

[David A. Cobb]

Jacob S. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:08:14 -0500
Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

David A. Cobb wrote:
   

First woe: my hardware is by nVidia; the Official kernel on the CD
is 2.4.18, nVidia provides a driver for 2.4.20/21 and the Debian
archive has nVidia patches for 2.4.26.  My plan is to go to .26, but
in the meanwhile I can't use X Windows and I can't access my NIC, so
all that stuff requires rebooting into Windows.
 

You might be able to get your network working, in which case you won't
need to reboot into Windows.
   


Actually, he mentions nVidia hardware above. By this I assume he means
an nVidia chipset on his motherboard. In which case, his network card
(built into the motherboard) is not recognized unless you have a kernel
newer than 2.4.20 (not sure the exact version where they added it) using
the forcedeth module or by applying nVidia's patches to a 2.4.20 kernel
and using nvnet. 
 

URGGH.  Actually, as I said in answer to Kent, "TUN" is able to load and 
recognize my card.  Video matters -- later.
I've looked around here at Debian.org enough to know that nVidia 
presents a major PITA until I can upgrade my kernel.  And, until I can 
reach the net and let apt-get worry about what's missing, that is a 
thought to horrid to be borne.

Unfortunately, either way would require him to go into Windows to
download stuff, for his nVidia hardware to work in Woody. 

David, if your Windows partition really is vfat format, and not running
something like XP which uses NTFS, you probably just need to modprobe
vfat before trying to mount it. Look at Monique's e-mail for a good
fstab example, if you need it.
HTH,
Jacob
 

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Re: Newbie problems galore

[David A. Cobb]

inline->
Kent West wrote:
David A. Cobb wrote:
First woe: my hardware is by nVidia; the Official kernel on the CD is 
2.4.18, nVidia provides a driver for 2.4.20/21 and the Debian archive 
has nVidia patches for 2.4.26.  My plan is to go to .26, but in the 
meanwhile I can't use X Windows and I can't access my NIC, so all 
that stuff requires rebooting into Windows.

You might be able to get your network working, in which case you won't 
need to reboot into Windows.

Run "lspci" to see what type of Ethernet device you have, then run 
"modprobe" to install the correct driver for it. You might then need 
to modify /etc/network/interfaces (see "man interfaces" for examples) 
and restart networking (/etc/init.d/networking stop && 
/etc/init.d/networking start).

PASTING ALL THE PROBABLY-RELEVANT
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0068 (rev a3) 
(prog-if 20)
   Subsystem: Micro-star International Co Ltd: Unknown device 5700
   Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
   Memory at dd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
   Capabilities: [44] #0a [2080]
   Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0066 
(rev a1)
   Subsystem: Micro-star International Co Ltd: Unknown device 570c
   Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
   Memory at dd001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   I/O ports at d000 [size=8]
   Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 
006a (rev a1)
   Subsystem: Micro-star International Co Ltd: Unknown device 5700
   Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
   I/O ports at d400 [size=256]
   I/O ports at d800 [size=128]
   Memory at dd002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

...
01:06.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Vanta [NV6] (rev 
15) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
   Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
   Memory at da00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
   Memory at d800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
   Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=64K]
   Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1

01:07.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics LT WinModem
   Subsystem: Risq Modular Systems, Inc.: Unknown device 044e
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
   Memory at dc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
   I/O ports at c000 [size=8]
   I/O ports at c400 [size=256]
   Capabilities: [f8] Power Management version 2
I can't find anything at debian.org that looks likely -- the "nforce" 
driver from nVidia is the right one but I can't seem to match my distro.
However, I found that "TUN" is generic enough to allow the installation 
to see the network.

Vidio . . . well, that's another matter, and I'll worry about it later.  
I'll try to insmod vesa later on. 

  So, my first question: given the kernel images on 
$MIRROR/Debian/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.26-i386, how do I change my 
kernel?

Once you have networking working, just "apt-get install 
kernel-image-2.4.26-i386" (although I suspect you really want the i686 
variant instead of i386).
K6, actually.

  I need to pass things back-and-forth between Linux and Windoze.

If your Windows system is on FAT32 (not NTFS), no problem. If it is on 
NTFS, you'll need to create a "shared" FAT32 partition.

To mount a FAT32 partition, you can do something similar to:
mount /dev/hda1 /home/superbskt/MyWinFiles
(assuming you've created  a "MyWinFiles" directory in your home 
directory, and assuming Windows is on /dev/hda1).

You can modify /etc/fstab to do this for you automatically if you want.
Yeah.  I cannot get my NTFS partitions visible at this point.  I 
reconfigured several things, used Partition Magic to convert a big chunk 
of disk real estate.  That, at least, is temporarily satisfactory.

I swear, the first time I tried using VFAT, if failed so I fell back to 
MSDOS and lost long filenames.  Anyway, it works now.  I'll think about 
"why's" after I have a working system.


   Right now, I've managed to hork up my package data so dpkg gets 
hung up trying to fix things.  My best bet seems to be to restart 
from scratch.  How do I get dpkg / apt / aptitude to clean my machine 
totally, or what files should I remove to make all this stuff go 
away?   Or, would it really be quicker to re-init my partitions and 
start again from the CD?

Without knowing what you mean when you say "hork up", it's hard to 
say. I will say that it's almost never necessary to wipe/rebuild a 
Debian box (although sometimes it's easier to do that, depending on 
circumstances / skill level / etc).

Well, when I get all the "Broken" cleaned up, aptitude asks for disk 
Binary-2, reads a bunch, then prints "Preconfiguring Modules ..."  and 
that's the last thing that comes  out of my machine.  I can go out for 
dinner and come back and

canon 8000f scanner

[Kevin Coyner]

Wondering if anyone has successfully installed a Canon 8000F scanner
(usb) scanner on their Debian system.  I'm using Sid on the 2.6 kernel.

Thanks
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wifi & kernel 2.6.* kernel

[Rodney D. Myers]

I've been searching for my wifi modules, and they all seem to be geared
towards the 2.4.* series of kernel's.

doing an "apt-cache search wlan" shows wlan*2.4.*

The card was "found' and identified in the net install, but I used the
built-in lan card to install. will I need the source to build into
2.6.3? 

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Re: Can't connect to my IMAP folders with Evo...?

[John Summerfield]

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Paul Smith wrote:
%% John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 js> Paul Smith wrote:
 >> The very bizarre thing is that I also use fetchmail to download one of
 >> my IMAP folders from the same account, leaving the other folders for
 >> Evo, and fetchmail connects every single time, no problems at all.  I
 >> run it in daemon mode and it connects every 10 seconds (!) and downloads
 >> my mail.
 js> It's always a good diagnostic technique to use another tool. Have you
 js> tried Thunderbird, Mozilla Mail, Kmail or Mutt?
No, but as I said fetchmail does work.
How many different tools should I try?  If at least one works that seems
enough to verify that the server is working and that my account is
active and my password is correct and all that basic stuff.
 

I don't recall that you said fetchmail works with the same folders 
Evolution fails on.

It's also the case you can actually get your work done with any of the 
MUAs I suggested. I don't care which or how many you try, but if any 
works than you have a workaround while you get the problem fixed properly.

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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

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--- John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> 1. Because it's a useful working example, unlike many others

Oh, wow.

> cat /etc/passwd | awk "/$USER/ {print \$0}"
> 
> Of course, the awk program could be quite a deal more complicate than
> that.

So? That's still not a valid argument from [1]:

awk -F: '/$user/ {print $2}' ./filename

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Re: Can't connect to my IMAP folders with Evo...?

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  js> Paul Smith wrote:

  >> The very bizarre thing is that I also use fetchmail to download one of
  >> my IMAP folders from the same account, leaving the other folders for
  >> Evo, and fetchmail connects every single time, no problems at all.  I
  >> run it in daemon mode and it connects every 10 seconds (!) and downloads
  >> my mail.

  js> It's always a good diagnostic technique to use another tool. Have you
  js> tried Thunderbird, Mozilla Mail, Kmail or Mutt?

No, but as I said fetchmail does work.

How many different tools should I try?  If at least one works that seems
enough to verify that the server is working and that my account is
active and my password is correct and all that basic stuff.

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Re: recommendation for digital camera

[anlace]

On Friday 16 July 2004 05:30 pm, Ryan Waye wrote:
> Sansdisk and ConpactFlash cards are usually pretty generic, and will
> work on almost any OS.  Just make sure you get the right reader if you
> decide to go this direction.
>
> Ryan Waye

I have been using a Nikon CoolPix 990 since they first came out something like 
4 years ago.  When I switched from Windows to Linux (and after I figured out 
how gphoto2 worked, they have an excellent how-to on their web site) I've had 
no problems getting images straight from the camera.  I'm using testing, the 
2.6.6 kernel, and KDE.  In Konqueror all I do is type camera:/ and transfer 
files just like I would from any other directory.  Not to mention the fact 
that Nikon cameras take very nice photographs.

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Re: Thttpd and PHP

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Jacob S. wrote:
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with thttpd, but here are some things I
would check. 

1) Is there anything in the config file that tells thttpd what file
extensions should be treated as .cgis? You will probably want to add php
to this list.
 

This might work::
cgipat=*.php
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Re: recommendation for digital camera

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Sansdisk and ConpactFlash cards are usually pretty generic, and will
work on almost any OS.  Just make sure you get the right reader if you
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Re: apt-get dist-upgrade and /dev/input/mice

[John Summerfield]

John Smith wrote:
1. How can I continue with the upgrade, ignoring these dependencies?
Large numbers of updates remain unconfigured, and I cannot get the
system to ignore the problems and pass onto the rest.
2. There is a dangerously unstable package - imhangul -
half-installed. I am unable to install (as suggested by dpkg) nor can
I remove. Which command can be tried? I have tried dpkg variants of
-i, --ignore-depends, --reconfigure, --configure --pending, and
apt-get remove
3. Should I forget the Srage version, and simply reconfigure the
apt,sources for unstable, and dist-upgrade using aptitude from that?
Brian
   

Hi Brian,
	I had this a couple of times (I'm using Sarge for about half
a year) while updating/upgrading reguarly. In my experience there is
usually 1 package which causes this. By doing a apt-get -f install \
package, (-f == force) you can usually force your way through this,
although the last time I did this, I had to force a sid package in.
 

-f, --fix-broken
This should fix it, but in my experience doesn't always
apt-get -f install
Your  could also try
apt-get -f install imhangul-
Note the minus sign at the end of the package name.
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Re: gnome-settings-daemon equivalent for KDE

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On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:42:42 -0400
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>
> Hi, 
> 
> What is the equivalent command for KDE that is same as
> gnome-settings-daemon for GNOME?
> I.e., how can other WMs (e.g., fluxbox) to inherit KDE's settings
> (e.g. color/fonts)? 

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[John Summerfield]

Thomas Adam wrote:
--- Pete Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

 

Why not pipe the output through less .. eg:
#> cat somedoc.txt | less
   

Why would you want to cat the file _and_ page it? That is a useless use of
cat here, as less accepts STDIN.
 

1. Because it's a useful working example, unlike many others
2. I actually do just that sometimes. eg I cat a file and discover it's 
too long, so I back up and pipe it into less (or grep or awk or tail or 
head or head and tail).

Sometimes "cat  file|" is clearer than "  
eg
cat /etc/passwd | awk "/$USER/ {print \$0}"
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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[John Summerfield]

Rus Foster wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Duggan wrote:
 

I know that this is a really n00bish question, but I have to ask.  What 
is the command that limits output from a command to just a page at a 
time, like the /p command in DOS?

Thankyou
Elijah
   


Try
cmd | less
 

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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[John Summerfield]

Thomas Adam wrote:
2>  says to direct stderr
&1  means to duplicate it to stdout
 

There's also the important point that this does something somewhat 
different:-)
2>1
from
2>&1

so the result you get when doing 2>&1 is that _both_ standard output and
standard error are shown.
 

read this together what I wrong in another missive.
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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[John Summerfield]

Elijah
 

That works for regular output.  However, some programs also emit
error messages onto stderr.  The above command will *not* redirect
error messages into less, so they might mess up the pagination.
To get error messages piped through less, use
	command 2>&1 | less
   

dude! i've been trying to do that for months.  tahnks!
as an aside, did /p in DOS redirect stderr, too?  it's been so long
...
 

slash-p is specific to the dir command. DOS also has more.
I'm more familiar with OS/2 where one has to redirect stderr as in the 
example above. I believe that's also true on Windwoes.

I suppose for completeness we should mention tee.
tee writes its stdin to a file (which you name on the commandline) and 
to stdout. It's useful for keeping a record of events.

$ apt-get -b source kernel-image-2.6.6-1-386 2>&1 | tee building-kernels
We've also mentioned redirection. These two are different:
$ apt-get -b source kernel-image-2.6.6-1-386 >one 2>&1
$ apt-get -b source kernel-image-2.6.6-1-386 2>&1 >one
This can be handy too::
$ apt-get -b source kernel-image-2.6.6-1-386 >one 2>two
and there's always this:
$ apt-get -b source kernel-image-2.6.6-1-386 >>one 2>>two
I'll leave you to RTFM to discover what these do and whether I've made 
any mistakes:-)

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Re: problems using JACK

[Chris Metzler]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:33:10 +0100
rich lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> First, is it right that you pretty much have to run jack (and therefore
> all audio apps) as root? I can't get it started as any other user - it
> starts but the clients can't find it.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/05/msg03172.html

(see the second and third parts of my response in particular)


> Second, is there anyway to get Arts to use Jack? (and then, any way to
> get ESD to use it?) 

Not that I'm aware of at this time.  It's important to note, however,
that jackd was not intended to be a general, all-purpose audio server.


> Call me radical, but I thought it would be really good if all my apps
> which make sounds could...well, make sounds, without interfering
> with/blocking eachother. I like jack because I play with hydrogen and
> audacity and so I appreciate the low latency. 

When did audacity become a jackd client?

Anyway, jackd running should not prevent esd from sending sound to
the soundcard via ALSA.  If it is, there's an issue to be resolved.
However, if you are running jackd because you do pro-audio stuff,
you want to get rid of esd and aRts if you can, because they increase
latencies.


> There doesn't seem to be much on the net about jack, perhaps it's too
> young yet?

There's lots about JACK on the net; you simply have to poke around.
Google is your friend.

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Re: recommendation for digital camera

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On 2004-07-07, Chris Metzler penned:
>
> I don't own a digital camera, unfortunately; so take any advice I may
> give with a block-o-salt.  But I've seen several people here who *do*
> own digital cameras suggest the purchase of a USB memory card reader.
> The idea is that regardless of whether a particular camera is or is
> not compatible with the OS, its memory plopped into a reader will be.
> This enables you to forget the "compatible with Linux" restriction,
> and make your purchase choice entirely on whether a camera will take
> good pictures.

Late, here, but ... my dad has a Kodak camera and whatever the format
was, we couldn't get it to read straight off the card on linux *or*
windows.  We even tried downloading their proprietary viewer app for
windows, but it kept misbehaving till we gave up.

I would say, as long as the camera saves straight to JPG, a usb memory
card reader is the way to go.  I would further say that if the camera
doesn't save straight to JPG or some other readily-useable format, I
wouldn't buy it.

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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[John Summerfield]

Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
gauss% ll
zsh: command not found: ll
It is considered a bug in Debian for a script to blindly assume bash is
shell.
 

It might be a bug in the first of these, but not the second:
#!/bin/sh
#!/bin/bash
However, ll won't ordinarily be defined in either.

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Re: How I set up my Microsoft Trackball Optical

[Clive Menzies]

Thanks for this Kirk ;)

I've had a trackball for sometime (which is the best piece of kit, I've
ever seen from MS) but only use the wheel and two main buttons.
Inspired by your post I'll try this when I find some time.

Regards

Clive

On (16/07/04 16:37), Kirk Strauser wrote:
> This was kind of a pain in the neck, so I'm collecting my experiences into 
> one Googleable post for the sake of the next person.
> 
> I just bought a Microsoft Trackball Optical for use with my Debian/unstable 
> system.  Installation was a breeze - I just plugged it in to the USB port 
> and it instantly worked, scroll wheel and all.  However, my particular 
> model had two extra narrow buttons on the left and right outside edges.  By 
> default they were set to emulate a middle-click and right-click (left and 
> right "extra" buttons respectively).  Since that was hardly useful I 
> decided to put them to better use.
> 
> *** Step 1:  Configuring X
> 
> I slightly modified the "mouse" section of /etc/X11/XF86Config by changing 
> the "Protocol" from "Auto" to "ExplorerPS/2", disabled "Emulate3Buttons", 
> and set the number of "Buttons" to "7":
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Microsoft Trackball Optical"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> Option  "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
> Option  "Buttons" "7"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping" "6 7"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
> EndSection
> 
> 
> *** Step 2:  Configuring Xmodmap
> 
> By setting the number of buttons to 7 in XF86Config, the up and down scroll 
> wheel movements got bumped from buttons 4 and 5 to buttons 6 and 7.  
> However, almost all X apps expect them to be on 4 and 5.  I 
> created /etc/X11/Xmodmap with the contents below to reorder the mouse 
> button numbers so that the scroll wheel once again controls 4 and 5, and 6 
> and 7 are mapped to the "extra" buttons.
> 
> $ cat /etc/X11/Xmodmap
> ! Re-order the mouse buttons
> pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5
> 
> Note that I haven't explicitly loaded the new mapping yet; that comes in the 
> next step.
> 
> 
> *** Step 3:  Configuring imwheel
> 
> Now that X sent the appropriate events in response to button presses, I 
> wanted to make them actually do something.  The easiest (only?) way I know 
> of is with the program "imwheel", which intercepts mouse button press 
> events and replaces them with configurable keyboard events.
> 
> First, I ran "apt-get install imwheel".
> 
> Second, I made my own personal ~/.imwheelrc configuration file.  I could 
> have just as easily used (or edited) the 
> systemwide /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc file, but I wanted to keep my 
> modifications to myself to avoid confusing the heck out of anyone else who 
> happened to be using my machine.
> 
> The syntax of this file was a little confusing at first, but it's really 
> pretty simple.  The first line of each section is a regular expression to 
> match the title of the window that the mouse is in when you press a button 
> (so that you can send different keystroke combinations to each 
> application).  Following is a series of lines mapping a keyboard modifier 
> plus mouse button combination to a series of keystrokes.  In my config 
> file, "None" means that I'm not required to hold down any key while 
> pressing the mouse buttons.  This way, you can easily specify one action if 
> the shift key is pressed, another for the control key, etc.  The second 
> field is the name of the button press to match.  "Up" corresponds to the 
> left outer button, and "Down" matches the right outer button.  The final 
> field is the keypress combination to send.
> 
> My file currently looks like this:
> 
> $ cat ~/.imwheelrc
> "^konsole$"
> None, Up, Shift_L|Left
> None, Down, Shift_L|Right
> 
> "^konqueror$"
> None, Up, Control_L|Page_Up
> None, Down, Control_L|Page_Down
> 
> "^Firefox-bin$"
> None, Up, Control_L|Page_Up
> None, Down, Control_L|Page_Down
> 
> In other words, if my mouse is over a window with the internal name of 
> "konsole", and I'm not holding down any modifier key on the keyboard, and I 
> click the left outer mouse button, then imwheel sends shift+left to the 
> window.  This corresponds to "Go To Previous Session" in my Konsole 
> shortcuts, and acts as expected.  The other definitions are variations on 
> the same theme.
> 
> To see what a window is called, I ran 'imwheel -D -d -k -b "67"' to kill the 
> currently running imwheel daemon, dump debugging information to stdout, and 
> only intercept buttons 6 and 7.  Then I went to the interesting window, 
> clicked either of the right or left outer buttons, and read the debug 
> output to see what the name of that window was.
> 
> 
> *** Step 4:  Running it all at login
> 
> I edited /etc/X11/imwheel/startup.conf to change the lines:
> 
> IMWHEEL_START=0
> #IMWHEEL_PARAMS="-b "67""
> 
> to:
> 
>

Re: Can't connect to my IMAP folders with Evo...?

[John Summerfield]

Paul Smith wrote:
Hi all;  I'm using Evo 1.4.6 on a Debian sid box.  I'm connecting to an
Exchange 5.5 server using IMAP and normal password authentication (I've
tried ntlm, which my server supports, but that doesn't work either).
For the last year or so it's worked fine, but recently I upgraded to the
above version of Evo and now I can't keep a connection to my server.
Sometimes it works for a while, but most of the time when I try to log
in I get an error "IMAP command failed: You do not have permission to
log on."  Of course, it's also possible that something changed on the
server that I don't know about.  After farting around with the
configuration, or just being persistent, it seems to work and get a
login, and continue to log in while it checks for new mail (I assume
it's not connected all the time).  Then a few hours later or the next
morning I'll get a dialog saying that it couldn't connect, and it starts
all over.
The very bizarre thing is that I also use fetchmail to download one of
my IMAP folders from the same account, leaving the other folders for
Evo, and fetchmail connects every single time, no problems at all.  I
run it in daemon mode and it connects every 10 seconds (!) and downloads
my mail.
Basically, I don't know what to do next and I'm hoping someone can
provide me with some debugging options or other pointers...?
 

It's always a good diagnostic technique to use another tool. Have you 
tried Thunderbird, Mozilla Mail, Kmail or Mutt?


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Re: firewire, iPod and Linux

[Erik Steffl]

Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 08:06:41PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
 what about sda3? This is what works for me (that's without relying on 
/etc/fstab):

 mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda3 /mnt/ipod

Ok, this worked (yay!!) but it is read-only. I found a document which said
the partition may need to be cleaned first on a Mac, but I tried this and
it didn't help.
  I didn't have to clean anything on mac (I don't even have access to a 
Mac)

  what happens if you explicitly try to mount the partition as rw:
mount -t hfsplus -w /dev/sda3 /mnt/ipod
  do you have a line in /etc/fstab for ipod? (if yes, does it say ro?) 
this is what I have in /etc/fstab for ipod:

/dev/sdb3   /mnt/ipod hfsplus rw,user,noauto 0  0
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Re: swapping master & slave HDs: what to change?

[John Summerfield]

SpamHog wrote:
I have multiple Debian installs on 2 IDE HDs on the same channel.
I want to turn the SLAVE into MASTER & viceversa.
Here's my planned checklist - am I missing anything?
 

What do you hope to achieve?
For ease of changing things around, I keep a simple, self-installing
graphic boot _selector_ (GAG) in the MBR of /dev/hda, and I keep the
boot _loaders_ proper (lilo & grub), into each of the boot partitions.
For each installed system, I plan to:
1) change fstab file
Backup, swap all references to hdax and hdbx.
2) reinstall the bootloader
- Backup config/menu files.
- Change the config/menu files to reflect situation after the swap.
- Reinstall bootloader into the respective boot device.
I will then physically swap HDs, and use shorting settings for cable
select or swap master and slave.
Anything else?
 

I don't endorse _anything_ above.
You won't have a working LILO until _after_ your first successful reboot 
whereapon you must run lilo.

_I_'d replace lilo first,. except I'd not be running it:-)
Have a rescue CD handy.
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Re: problems using JACK

[Silvan]

On Friday 16 July 2004 01:33 pm, rich lott wrote:

> First, is it right that you pretty much have to run jack (and therefore all
> audio apps) as root? I can't get it started as any other user - it starts
> but the clients can't find it.

No, you don't *have* to.  If you don't run it in realtime mode, you can run 
everything out of userland.  That will impair your performance.  You have to 
decide what's most important to you.  I run everything in userland, and live 
with what I get, because I can't be bothered to become a Linux audio expert.
To get more, I'd have to do far more research than it's worth to me.

> Second, is there anyway to get Arts to use Jack? (and then, any way to get
> ESD to use it?)

I don't think so, no.

> Call me radical, but I thought it would be really good if all my apps which
> make sounds could...well, make sounds, without interfering with/blocking
> eachother.

It would be nice if everything supported JACK.  Perhaps that will be the case 
someday.

> I like jack because I play with hydrogen and audacity and so I 
> appreciate the low latency.

Do you actually have that working somehow?  Audacity hasn't worked with JACK 
in ages, and it isn't working here now.  I've had to start using sweep and 
rezound for audio editing, since I need JACK running.

> There doesn't seem to be much on the net about jack, perhaps it's too young
> yet?

Exactly.  If there are any easy, simple answers out there, google is doing a 
good job of keeping them from me, as well.  There's amazing work being done, 
but you really still have to be a Linux audio insider to understand most of 
the discussion.  Latency scheduling capabilities blmphf realtime blrfl xruns 
blah, wake me up when stupid people can use it too.  :)

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Re: Name server choices?

[Skylar Thompson]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 04:20:08PM -0700, Scott Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 02:33:23PM -0500, Skylar Thompson wrote:
> [...]
> > BIND 9, unlike previous version, is actually quite stable and secure. I'd
> > recommend transitioning to that rather than to other DNS servers, because
> > (AFAIK) it is much more full-featured than any other OSS DNS server.
> [...]
> 
> Thanks for the advice. I wasn't aware of the significant difference.
> 
> I'll definitely look into bind9.

A couple years back, BIND went through a massive code rewrite similiar to
the rewrite for Sendmail. There's no BIND 8 code in BIND 9, and the code is
written in a much more secure manner. It also supports signed or encrypted
zone transfers, keyed access to the name servers, and a host of other
security features. I'm a running it on a some FreeBSD and NetBSD machines,
and I've had no problems with it. 

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Re: extern IP

[John Summerfield]

Joost De Cock wrote:
Quoting Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Joost De Cock wrote:
   

To find out it's address, just do a traceroute:
traceroute debian.org
First address is the dlink internal interface, second address is the one
 

you
   

want. (the public address)
 

When I do this I get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ traceroute debian.org
traceroute to debian.org (192.25.206.10), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1  * * *
2  * * *
3  * * *
4  * * *
5  * * *
6  * * *
7  * * *
8  * * *

How come? Blocked somewhere? I can't see my firewall blocking anything; do
I need to forward something from the router? I would prefer to use this
method than my links -dump parsing.
   

Yes, looks like the icmp packets are dropped. Oh well, here's another way:
 

traceroute uses UDP. Looks like a tight firewall:-)
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Re: Unknown Scancode Errors

[John Summerfield]

Thomas Adam wrote:
--- Duggan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ]
 

the command "dmesg -n 6" would stop the errors.  Unfortunately I have to
   

While that command can indeed by used at init, it will not solve your
underlying problems.
 

enter this every time I boot up the machine which is very frustrating, 
and I am also concerned that other errors may be filtered out by this 
command.  Can someone advise me how I should deal with this problem?
   

You should look at the scancodes in question. Have a read of 'loadkeys',
'dumpkeys', 'showkey'. They all have manpages. You might also consider
posting some of the errors here to the list. You'll find them in
/var/log/messages
 

They arise from pressing those wondeful Windows keys (second generation) 
such as "back," "forward" etc. I solved the problem by giving the 
keyboard to my wife who wants nothing more than a good GUI.

I will confess I'm surprised the kernel doesn't deal with them more 
silently, like it does with the first-generation Windows keys, by now.

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Re: Name server choices?

[Scott Robinson]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 02:33:23PM -0500, Skylar Thompson wrote:
[...]
> BIND 9, unlike previous version, is actually quite stable and secure. I'd
> recommend transitioning to that rather than to other DNS servers, because
> (AFAIK) it is much more full-featured than any other OSS DNS server.
[...]

Thanks for the advice. I wasn't aware of the significant difference.

I'll definitely look into bind9.

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Re: CPU speed

[Thijs Koetsier]

Christian Christmann wrote:
HI,
I'm looking for a tool to adjust the speed of my
CPU depending on if my notebook is running with a 
battery or without.
Are there any debian packages I could use?

Thank you
Regards,
Christian
 

Perhaps you could check out
package powermgmt-base
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Re: home/end keys in ssh session

[Thomas Dickey]

Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,

> When I ssh into my Debian (Woody) server from RH 9, why can't I use my HOME 
> and END keys? If I use ssh on the server the HOME/END keys work fine.

The terminfo's are probably different (applications therefore expect different
escape sequences for the keys).

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Re: Software to HTMLize a text file?

[John Summerfield]

stan wrote:
I've got some ssytem staus reports that are generated by shell scripts and
emailed to various people. Now Iwant to put these up in a wbserver.
Now I know I can just stick the plain old ASCI files in a directory, or I
could rewrite the scripts to add appropriate HTML formating directives. But
I was wondering if there was anything like the tools that convert a plain
old ASCU file to PostScript for HTML conversion?
 

mailman
Set up a mailing list,send the messages to the list.
The archive is in html, gets index for you. Subscribing folk is optional.

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CPU speed

[Christian Christmann]

HI,

I'm looking for a tool to adjust the speed of my
CPU depending on if my notebook is running with a 
battery or without.
Are there any debian packages I could use?

Thank you

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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[Thomas Adam]

--- Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> well, it is well-known, but i somehow always get the order of the
> ampersands and redirection >s messed up.  why, for exapmle, is there a
> '&' in front of the '1' there, but not the '2'?

Shell redirection...

2>  says to direct stderr
&1  means to duplicate it to stdout

so the result you get when doing 2>&1 is that _both_ standard output and
standard error are shown.

The caveat of course is when you do:

command 2>&1 > ./some_filename

will NOT work as expected since although it appears you're directing
stderr/stdout to "some_filename" what happens is that only stdout is sent
to "some_file". Why? Because stderr is duplicated (that's what the '&'
means) to stdout before stdout is directed to the filename. To get around
this:

command > ./some_filename 2>&1

The equivalent command, being:

command &> ./some_filename

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Re: When Will Postscript PPC FireFox Be Available?

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 the mental interface of
Kirk Strauser told:

> On Friday 16 July 2004 11:45, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> 
> > This is in unstable ;-)
> 
> Excellent!  And did you happen to notice if it support Postscript printing 
> as the original poster asked?  ;-)

Printing doesn't work at all ;-). But the version is 0.9.1 and not
9.0.1!

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Re: How I set up my Microsoft Trackball Optical

[Ryan Waye]

Thanks for the controbution, I actually will probably end up using that
in a couple of days.

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Re: Crontab Question

[Ryan Waye]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 05:16:08PM -0400 or thereabouts, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> on Fri, 16 Jul 2004 04:44:59PM -0400, Ryan Waye insinuated:
> > Hello:
> > I have been having crontab report my exit statuses of backups
> > for some time now(they were the only thing there).  But now that
> > I have getmail on the crontab, this is quickly flooding my
> > mailbox.  It has been a while, and I can't remember how I made
> > cron do this.  How do I reverse this setting?
> 
> you mean, you want to stop the cron job?  or just stop getting
> notified that it's doing its thing?
> 
> to stop it:
> 
> crontab -e
> 
> and remove the appropriate line.
> 
> to stop getting notified about it:
> 
> crontab -e
> 
> and put a '&>/dev/null' (no quotes) at the end of the line, so that
> its output goes to the trash, and not to your inbox.
> 
> hth,
> 
> 
Thanks alot, that worked.

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How I set up my Microsoft Trackball Optical

[Kirk Strauser]

This was kind of a pain in the neck, so I'm collecting my experiences into 
one Googleable post for the sake of the next person.

I just bought a Microsoft Trackball Optical for use with my Debian/unstable 
system.  Installation was a breeze - I just plugged it in to the USB port 
and it instantly worked, scroll wheel and all.  However, my particular 
model had two extra narrow buttons on the left and right outside edges.  By 
default they were set to emulate a middle-click and right-click (left and 
right "extra" buttons respectively).  Since that was hardly useful I 
decided to put them to better use.

*** Step 1:  Configuring X

I slightly modified the "mouse" section of /etc/X11/XF86Config by changing 
the "Protocol" from "Auto" to "ExplorerPS/2", disabled "Emulate3Buttons", 
and set the number of "Buttons" to "7":

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Microsoft Trackball Optical"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option  "Buttons" "7"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "6 7"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection


*** Step 2:  Configuring Xmodmap

By setting the number of buttons to 7 in XF86Config, the up and down scroll 
wheel movements got bumped from buttons 4 and 5 to buttons 6 and 7.  
However, almost all X apps expect them to be on 4 and 5.  I 
created /etc/X11/Xmodmap with the contents below to reorder the mouse 
button numbers so that the scroll wheel once again controls 4 and 5, and 6 
and 7 are mapped to the "extra" buttons.

$ cat /etc/X11/Xmodmap
! Re-order the mouse buttons
pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5

Note that I haven't explicitly loaded the new mapping yet; that comes in the 
next step.


*** Step 3:  Configuring imwheel

Now that X sent the appropriate events in response to button presses, I 
wanted to make them actually do something.  The easiest (only?) way I know 
of is with the program "imwheel", which intercepts mouse button press 
events and replaces them with configurable keyboard events.

First, I ran "apt-get install imwheel".

Second, I made my own personal ~/.imwheelrc configuration file.  I could 
have just as easily used (or edited) the 
systemwide /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc file, but I wanted to keep my 
modifications to myself to avoid confusing the heck out of anyone else who 
happened to be using my machine.

The syntax of this file was a little confusing at first, but it's really 
pretty simple.  The first line of each section is a regular expression to 
match the title of the window that the mouse is in when you press a button 
(so that you can send different keystroke combinations to each 
application).  Following is a series of lines mapping a keyboard modifier 
plus mouse button combination to a series of keystrokes.  In my config 
file, "None" means that I'm not required to hold down any key while 
pressing the mouse buttons.  This way, you can easily specify one action if 
the shift key is pressed, another for the control key, etc.  The second 
field is the name of the button press to match.  "Up" corresponds to the 
left outer button, and "Down" matches the right outer button.  The final 
field is the keypress combination to send.

My file currently looks like this:

$ cat ~/.imwheelrc
"^konsole$"
None, Up, Shift_L|Left
None, Down, Shift_L|Right

"^konqueror$"
None, Up, Control_L|Page_Up
None, Down, Control_L|Page_Down

"^Firefox-bin$"
None, Up, Control_L|Page_Up
None, Down, Control_L|Page_Down

In other words, if my mouse is over a window with the internal name of 
"konsole", and I'm not holding down any modifier key on the keyboard, and I 
click the left outer mouse button, then imwheel sends shift+left to the 
window.  This corresponds to "Go To Previous Session" in my Konsole 
shortcuts, and acts as expected.  The other definitions are variations on 
the same theme.

To see what a window is called, I ran 'imwheel -D -d -k -b "67"' to kill the 
currently running imwheel daemon, dump debugging information to stdout, and 
only intercept buttons 6 and 7.  Then I went to the interesting window, 
clicked either of the right or left outer buttons, and read the debug 
output to see what the name of that window was.


*** Step 4:  Running it all at login

I edited /etc/X11/imwheel/startup.conf to change the lines:

IMWHEEL_START=0
#IMWHEEL_PARAMS="-b "67""

to:

IMWHEEL_START=1
IMWHEEL_PARAMS="-b "67""

Then, I made a symlink from /usr/share/doc/imwheel/61imwheel_load-xmodmap 
into /etc/X11/Xsession.d (the imwheel packages doesn't install it by 
default).  Now, whenever any user logs in, the session manager launched 
imwheel with that users ~/.imwheelrc (or /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc if they 
don't have one).  Then, it loads the /etc/X11/Xmodmap file I defined in 
step 2.  You can also execute the scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession.d manually 
if you'

Re: help on Keyboard language..

[Steven Satelle]

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 21:08, Nori Heikkinen wrote:

> > if you do a dpkg-reconfigure locales it will take you through the
> > same config as the original install
> 
> will that do it?  i don't think it's just the locales he needs, but
> the keyboard layout itself.  to do this, you'll need to do a
> dpkg-reconfigure base-config.  (this is the only thing i know to do
> when i'm passing off a computer whose layout i've set to be dvorak to
> someone who only does qwerty ;)
> 
> 

I had assumed that he had only meant the locations of things like @ or "
but then again ass-u-me :-)


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Re: Crontab Question

[Nori Heikkinen]

on Fri, 16 Jul 2004 04:44:59PM -0400, Ryan Waye insinuated:
> Hello:
>   I have been having crontab report my exit statuses of backups
> for some time now(they were the only thing there).  But now that
> I have getmail on the crontab, this is quickly flooding my
> mailbox.  It has been a while, and I can't remember how I made
> cron do this.  How do I reverse this setting?

you mean, you want to stop the cron job?  or just stop getting
notified that it's doing its thing?

to stop it:

crontab -e

and remove the appropriate line.

to stop getting notified about it:

crontab -e

and put a '&>/dev/null' (no quotes) at the end of the line, so that
its output goes to the trash, and not to your inbox.

hth,



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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[Nori Heikkinen]

on Fri, 16 Jul 2004 04:46:11PM -0400, Hendrik Boom insinuated:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 03:58:41PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> > on Fri, 16 Jul 2004 01:46:30PM -0400, Hendrik Boom insinuated:
> > > 
> > > That works for regular output.  However, some programs also emit
> > > error messages onto stderr.  The above command will *not* redirect
> > > error messages into less, so they might mess up the pagination.
> > > To get error messages piped through less, use
> > > 
> > >   command 2>&1 | less
> > 
> > dude! i've been trying to do that for months.  tahnks!
> > 
> > as an aside, did /p in DOS redirect stderr, too?  it's been so long
> > ...
> 
> Well, I'm glad I posted -- I nearly didn't -- it seemed too well-known.
> But then I thought, piping to less is well-known, too.

well, it is well-known, but i somehow always get the order of the
ampersands and redirection >s messed up.  why, for exapmle, is there a
'&' in front of the '1' there, but not the '2'?



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Re: Ximian Connector for Debian Sid

[Ryan Waye]

> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 03:00:07PM -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 
 
> Package: evolution-exchange
> Version: 1.4.7.2-1
> Architecture: powerpc
> 
> So is this ONLY for the powerpc?
> 
> 
> 

It would appear so.  Have you tried apt-cache search evolution-exchange"


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Re: Ximian Connector for Debian Sid

[Greg Folkert]

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 12:40, Andy Firman wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 11:36:36AM -0400, Mark Roach wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 10:35 -0400, Andy Firman wrote:
> > > Running Sid on my laptop with Evolution 1.4.6-3 and I would
> > > like to connect to an Exchange server.
> > 
> > > There are some packages here:
> > > http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/sid/
> > > 
> > > Or should one install evo1.5 from experimental?
> > > Will that screw things up for me in regards to library dependancies?
> > 
> > I am using evo1.5 from experimental. It doesn't include the ximian
> > connector. I installed evolution1.5-dev and pulled the cvs version of
> > ximian conector (1_5_9_2 branch) and was able to compile and install it
> > with a little fighting with makefiles but it seems pretty unstable. 
> > 
> > If you really want to get some work done stick with 1.4 and jdub's
> > packages.
> 
> Yes that is what I really want but I am missing something.
> Sorry if I am missing something obvious.
> 
> This is in my sources.list
> 
> deb http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/sid ./
> deb-src http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/sid ./
> 
> apt-cache search ximian-connector shows nothing.
> 
> How do I get his packages in?

His stuff is all PowerPC packages.

I just did this after adding those sources to my sources.list, as root:

1. apt-get build-dep ximian-connector
2. apt-get source ximian-connector
3. cd ximian-connector
4. dpkg-buildpackage
5. cd ..
6. dpkg -i evolution-exchange_1.4.7.2-1_i386.deb
7. restart evolution.

I am using "Sid" or "Unstable". I have just connected to an exchange
server, it works.
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Re: When Will Postscript PPC FireFox Be Available?

[Kirk Strauser]

On Friday 16 July 2004 11:45, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

> This is in unstable ;-)

Excellent!  And did you happen to notice if it support Postscript printing 
as the original poster asked?  ;-)
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Re: Ximian Connector for Debian Sid

[Andy Firman]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 03:00:07PM -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> %% Andy Firman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   af> apt-cache search ximian-connector shows nothing.
> 
>   af> How do I get his packages in?
> 
> apt-get install evolution-exchange

I must be doing something really stupid:

chum:/home/andy# apt-get update
Hit http://www.gnome.org ./ Packages
Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages [3133kB]
Hit http://www.gnome.org ./ Release
Hit http://www.gnome.org ./ Sources
Hit http://www.gnome.org ./ Release
Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Release [82B]
Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages [72.3kB]
Get:4 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/contrib Release [85B]
Hit http://http.us.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages
Get:5 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/non-free Release [86B]
Fetched 3206kB in 47s (68.0kB/s)
Reading Package Lists... Done

chum:/home/andy# apt-get install evolution-exchange
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package evolution-exchange
chum:/home/andy#

When I look at the sources here:
http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/

It is all for architecture powerpc:

Packages Available
sid
deb http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/sid ./
deb-src http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/sid ./

Package: evolution-exchange
Version: 1.4.7.2-1
Architecture: powerpc

So is this ONLY for the powerpc?



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Crontab Question

[Ryan Waye]

Hello:
I have been having crontab report my exit statuses of backups
for some time now(they were the only thing there).  But now that
I have getmail on the crontab, this is quickly flooding my
mailbox.  It has been a while, and I can't remember how I made
cron do this.  How do I reverse this setting?

Ryan Waye


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home/end keys in ssh session

[Tom Brown]

Hi,

When I ssh into my Debian (Woody) server from RH 9, why can't I use my HOME 
and END keys? If I use ssh on the server the HOME/END keys work fine.

Thanks,
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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[Hendrik Boom]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 03:58:41PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> on Fri, 16 Jul 2004 01:46:30PM -0400, Hendrik Boom insinuated:
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:30:53PM +0800, Duggan wrote:
> > > Kirk Strauser wrote:
> > > 
> > > >On Friday 2004-07-16 08:59 am, Duggan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >>I know that this is a really n00bish question, but I have to ask.  What
> > > >>is the command that limits output from a command to just a page at a
> > > >>time, like the /p command in DOS?
> > > >>   
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >less (or more).  As in, instead of running
> > > >
> > > >   $ command
> > > >
> > > >you pipe it's output into less (or more):
> > > >
> > > >   $ command | less
> > > >
> > > >Et voila!  You get the output one page at a time.
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > Okies, I get it now
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Elijah
> > 
> > That works for regular output.  However, some programs also emit
> > error messages onto stderr.  The above command will *not* redirect
> > error messages into less, so they might mess up the pagination.
> > To get error messages piped through less, use
> > 
> > command 2>&1 | less
> 
> dude! i've been trying to do that for months.  tahnks!
> 
> as an aside, did /p in DOS redirect stderr, too?  it's been so long
> ...

Well, I'm glad I posted -- I nearly didn't -- it seemed too well-known.
But then I thought, piping to less is well-known, too.
I wonder how many other well-known things need to be posted here too
I wonder how many of them I need to know and don't...

You're welcome.

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X/GNOME starts just a bit, then dies; file permissions problem?

[Shot]

Hello.

After upgrading X to 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 yesterday on my workstation (Radeon
7500) I can no longer get back to GNOME - when I try to `startx` I see
the usual, dotted gray X background with the black X cursor for a while
and then I'm dropped back to console. dmesg seems to be appended with
[drm:radeon_unlock] *ERROR* Process 9176 using kernel context 0
every time (the pid changes with each try).

After filing[1] bug #259639, Daniel Stone suggested I try running
`XFree86 :0 -nolisten tcp -dpi 100 & sleep 2 && DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-session`
which ended up in

Fatal server error:
Cannot move old logfile "/var/log/XFree86.0.log.old"

which, in turn, pointed me into the general direction
of checking file permissions and suid bits.

So far I've determined that running X from the root's shell puts me in
root's GNOME (so everything seems to be working, at least driver-wise),
but doing `sudo startx` ends up in stopping at the X background with
the cursor, and I have to kill the X-server with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.
When I did `chmod ug+s /usr/bin/X11/XFree86`, I can `sudo startx` all
the way to the root's GNOME.

I'm a bit puzzled at this time what to try next - my laptop (with
the i830 graphic card) runs the same package configuration and GNOME
works without any problems (without suiding XFree86). Downgrading X
to 4.3.0.dfsg.1-5 didn't help.

The console output, XF86Config-4 and XFree86.0.log can be seen at the
bug page[1] (I didn't want to clutter up debian-user). Thanks for your
time spent on reading this email; I'd appreciate any ideas on what
I could try next.

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=259639

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Re: help on Keyboard language..

[Nori Heikkinen]

on Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:06:47PM +0100, Steven Satelle insinuated:
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:47:07 +0200, Lorenzo Rossi wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > when I installed debian I setup my keyboard with italian layout.
> > After an apt-get upgrade I loose the keyboard settings..how can I
> > restore the correct language?
> > 
> > thanks
> > Lorenzo
> 
> if you do a dpkg-reconfigure locales it will take you through the
> same config as the original install

will that do it?  i don't think it's just the locales he needs, but
the keyboard layout itself.  to do this, you'll need to do a
dpkg-reconfigure base-config.  (this is the only thing i know to do
when i'm passing off a computer whose layout i've set to be dvorak to
someone who only does qwerty ;)



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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[Nori Heikkinen]

on Fri, 16 Jul 2004 01:46:30PM -0400, Hendrik Boom insinuated:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:30:53PM +0800, Duggan wrote:
> > Kirk Strauser wrote:
> > 
> > >On Friday 2004-07-16 08:59 am, Duggan wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >>I know that this is a really n00bish question, but I have to ask.  What
> > >>is the command that limits output from a command to just a page at a
> > >>time, like the /p command in DOS?
> > >>   
> > >>
> > >
> > >less (or more).  As in, instead of running
> > >
> > >   $ command
> > >
> > >you pipe it's output into less (or more):
> > >
> > >   $ command | less
> > >
> > >Et voila!  You get the output one page at a time.
> > > 
> > >
> > Okies, I get it now
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Elijah
> 
> That works for regular output.  However, some programs also emit
> error messages onto stderr.  The above command will *not* redirect
> error messages into less, so they might mess up the pagination.
> To get error messages piped through less, use
> 
>   command 2>&1 | less

dude! i've been trying to do that for months.  tahnks!

as an aside, did /p in DOS redirect stderr, too?  it's been so long
...



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Re: systemwide umask definition?

[Mike]

I have a similar experience with umask
in /etc/profile I have a line umask 0002  # to give owner and group 
rw access.

in /etc/login.defs I have the same (why capitals?)
#   UMASK   Default "umask" value.
UMASK   0002
and nothing in .bash_profile, but it still comes up 0022 when I check 
it with #umask

anyone help?
thanks
rich
On Friday 16 July 2004 17:49, Trollcollect wrote:
 

Thanks to Jacob, i figured out that my statement/request was somewhat
unprecise. What i really do want to do is to set a umask for OpenOffice
w/kde, as well as all other kde applications. I noticed that if i 
open a
terminal session, check the umask, it will not be set according to 
what i
put in /etc/profile or /etc/login.defs. If, however, i su - into the 
same
user, i see th correct umask. That leads me to the guess that kde 
sets a
umask differently and independant of the login / standard umask. So the
precise question would be: Where can i define a system wide umask 
for kde
sessions?

TIA,
Dan
"Jacob S." <> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:53:46 +0200 (CEST)
Trollcollect wrote:
  

Hello List,
please reply Cc: to me as i cant follow this list from
work.
My problem is that i cant find where to set the system
wide umask for my sarge system. I've tried to do it in
/etc/profile as well as /etc/login.defs, to no avail.
So desperate that i even tried a reboot :(
Any pointers?

What syntax did you use? On my Sarge system it's in /etc/profile with a
simple "umask 022" line. Logging out and back in should be enough for
this setting to take affect.
What did you do to believe that the umask setting wasn't working?
Jacob
  

For the bash shell, the global setting for umask is done in 
/etc/bash.bashrc.  To set it to something different for an individual  
user, it is set in ~/.bashrc.

-mk
One other note I'd like to pass on.  If you make a change to ~/.bashrc 
or /etc/bash.bashrc, .profile for that matter, you don't have to log out 
then log back in again for the change to take effect.  All you have to 
do is type:

.  .bashrc
or
,  /etc/bash.bashrc
or
.  .profile
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Re: problems using JACK

[Roy Pluschke]

On July 16, 2004 10:33, rich lott wrote:
> First, is it right that you pretty much have to run jack (and therefore all
> audio apps) as root? I can't get it started as any other user - it starts
> but the clients can't find it.
>
> Second, is there anyway to get Arts to use Jack? (and then, any way to get
> ESD to use it?)
>
> Call me radical, but I thought it would be really good if all my apps which
> make sounds could...well, make sounds, without interfering with/blocking
> eachother. I like jack because I play with hydrogen and audacity and so I
> appreciate the low latency.
>
> There doesn't seem to be much on the net about jack, perhaps it's too young
> yet?
>

For non-root applications to connect to jackd you will have to patch your 2.4 
kernel (adds some security risk). The file "include/linux/capability.h" 
requires a small change.  If you are using a 2.6 kernel you can use the new 
Linux Realtime Security module.  This is all explained in the jack faq

http://jackit.sourceforge.net/docs/faq.php -- not very hard to find

RJP


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Re: Name server choices?

[Skylar Thompson]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 05:26:58AM -0700, Scott Robinson wrote:
> [This list is migthy verbose, so please respond both to the list and myself
> directly.]
> 
> I'm about to transition the DNS server from one Debian stable machine to
> another. The current configuration is a chroot hack on top of the normal
> bind package.
> 
> I'm thinking this transition would be a great time to investigate the
> alternative to bind. Bind, as I understand it, is notoriously buggy and
> insecure. (thus the chroot)
> 
> A few apt-cache searches later, and I turn up the following alternatives:
> 
> maradns - A simple DNS server, aimed to be secure (http://www.maradns.org/)
> djbdns-installer - Source only package for building djbdns 
> (http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html)
> 
> I am a bit suprised. I expected a plethora of choices. :-\
> 
> maradns appears to be several versions behind (stable: 0.9.15-1) and after
> surfing its homepage I wonder about its feature completeness and production
> readiness. In short, maradns makes me nervous.
> 
> djbdns seems like a great alternative, except it's not DFSG compliant.
> Normally, this doesn't phase me. However, for our DNS server I would like
> the peace of mind to know the software can and will be supported in the
> future. Supposedly there have been no security bugs found thus far - but
> offering a reward seems to me would discourage rather than encourage takers.
> In short, djbdns makes me nervous too.
> 
> Are there any other options I'm missing? Is there a reason for a lack of DNS
> servers in the open source world? At the very least, I'm suprised no one has
> started a project to implement one in a managed language.

BIND 9, unlike previous version, is actually quite stable and secure. I'd
recommend transitioning to that rather than to other DNS servers, because
(AFAIK) it is much more full-featured than any other OSS DNS server.

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gnome-settings-daemon equivalent for KDE

[* Tong*]

Hi, 

What is the equivalent command for KDE that is same as
gnome-settings-daemon for GNOME?
I.e., how can other WMs (e.g., fluxbox) to inherit KDE's settings
(e.g. color/fonts)? 

TIA




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Re: [Debian-User] NTP problem

[Skylar Thompson]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 07:47:36AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> John Summerfield writes:
> > If you think your ISP's blocking it, why not
> > a) Ask your ISP whether it provides an NTP or simple NTP server?
> > b) Ask your ISP whether if does block NTP traffic.
> 
> It is generally very difficult to reach anyone at an ISP that knows what
> an NTP server is.  Just try using your ISP's nameservers as NTP servers.
> If that doesn't work try pool.ntp.org.

You could also try using dig in the ISP's domain, or just seeing if such
hostnames as ntp.isp.net, ntp1.isp.net, time.isp.net, or clock.isp.net
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Re: Ximian Connector for Debian Sid

[Paul Smith]

%% Andy Firman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  af> apt-cache search ximian-connector shows nothing.

  af> How do I get his packages in?

apt-get install evolution-exchange

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Can't connect to my IMAP folders with Evo...?

[Paul Smith]

Hi all;  I'm using Evo 1.4.6 on a Debian sid box.  I'm connecting to an
Exchange 5.5 server using IMAP and normal password authentication (I've
tried ntlm, which my server supports, but that doesn't work either).

For the last year or so it's worked fine, but recently I upgraded to the
above version of Evo and now I can't keep a connection to my server.
Sometimes it works for a while, but most of the time when I try to log
in I get an error "IMAP command failed: You do not have permission to
log on."  Of course, it's also possible that something changed on the
server that I don't know about.  After farting around with the
configuration, or just being persistent, it seems to work and get a
login, and continue to log in while it checks for new mail (I assume
it's not connected all the time).  Then a few hours later or the next
morning I'll get a dialog saying that it couldn't connect, and it starts
all over.

The very bizarre thing is that I also use fetchmail to download one of
my IMAP folders from the same account, leaving the other folders for
Evo, and fetchmail connects every single time, no problems at all.  I
run it in daemon mode and it connects every 10 seconds (!) and downloads
my mail.


Basically, I don't know what to do next and I'm hoping someone can
provide me with some debugging options or other pointers...?

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Re: systemwide umask definition?

[Mike]

rich lott wrote:
I have a similar experience with umask
in /etc/profile I have a line 
umask 0002  # to give owner and group rw access.

in /etc/login.defs I have the same (why capitals?)
#   UMASK   Default "umask" value.
UMASK   0002
and nothing in .bash_profile, but it still comes up 0022 when I check it with 
#umask

anyone help?
thanks
rich
On Friday 16 July 2004 17:49, Trollcollect wrote:
 

Thanks to Jacob, i figured out that my statement/request was somewhat
unprecise. What i really do want to do is to set a umask for OpenOffice
w/kde, as well as all other kde applications. I noticed that if i open a
terminal session, check the umask, it will not be set according to what i
put in /etc/profile or /etc/login.defs. If, however, i su - into the same
user, i see th correct umask. That leads me to the guess that kde sets a
umask differently and independant of the login / standard umask. So the
precise question would be: Where can i define a system wide umask for kde
sessions?
TIA,
Dan
"Jacob S." <> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:53:46 +0200 (CEST)
Trollcollect wrote:
   

Hello List,
please reply Cc: to me as i cant follow this list from
work.
My problem is that i cant find where to set the system
wide umask for my sarge system. I've tried to do it in
/etc/profile as well as /etc/login.defs, to no avail.
So desperate that i even tried a reboot :(
Any pointers?
 

What syntax did you use? On my Sarge system it's in /etc/profile with a
simple "umask 022" line. Logging out and back in should be enough for
this setting to take affect.
What did you do to believe that the umask setting wasn't working?
Jacob
   

For the bash shell, the global setting for umask is done in 
/etc/bash.bashrc.  To set it to something different for an individual  
user, it is set in ~/.bashrc.

-mk
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Re: Ximian Connector for Debian Sid

[Sven Hoexter]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:40:49PM -0400, Andy Firman wrote:

> Yes that is what I really want but I am missing something.
> Sorry if I am missing something obvious.
> 
> This is in my sources.list
> 
> deb http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/sid ./
> deb-src http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/sid ./
> 
> apt-cache search ximian-connector shows nothing.
> 
> How do I get his packages in?
Only to be sure: You did 'apt-get update' first?

Sven
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Re: Why GTK apps show smaller fonts under KDE?

[* Tong*]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:23:21 -0400, Larry Geralds wrote:

>> I notice that fonts are smaller for GTK applications (like pan) under KDE. 
>> E.g., for the same app -- pan, fonts are smaller in KDE than in my fluxbox.
> 
> There's a setting in Kmenu > Settings > Gnome Control Center.
> 
> After setting the font size you'll need to symlink 
> /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon into ~/.kde/Autostart/
> 
> This will make sure your gnome settings are used when you start your KDE 
> session. This includes gnome apps, mozilla, firebird, thunderbird...

Thanks, Larry! that solved the problem.




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Re: systemwide umask definition?

[rich]

I have a similar experience with umask

in /etc/profile I have a line 
umask 0002  # to give owner and group rw access.

in /etc/login.defs I have the same (why capitals?)
#   UMASK   Default "umask" value.
UMASK   0002

and nothing in .bash_profile, but it still comes up 0022 when I check it with 
#umask

anyone help?

thanks
rich

On Friday 16 July 2004 17:49, Trollcollect wrote:
> Thanks to Jacob, i figured out that my statement/request was somewhat
> unprecise. What i really do want to do is to set a umask for OpenOffice
> w/kde, as well as all other kde applications. I noticed that if i open a
> terminal session, check the umask, it will not be set according to what i
> put in /etc/profile or /etc/login.defs. If, however, i su - into the same
> user, i see th correct umask. That leads me to the guess that kde sets a
> umask differently and independant of the login / standard umask. So the
> precise question would be: Where can i define a system wide umask for kde
> sessions?
>
> TIA,
> Dan
>
> "Jacob S." <> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:53:46 +0200 (CEST)
>
> Trollcollect wrote:
> > Hello List,
> >
> > please reply Cc: to me as i cant follow this list from
> > work.
> >
> > My problem is that i cant find where to set the system
> > wide umask for my sarge system. I've tried to do it in
> > /etc/profile as well as /etc/login.defs, to no avail.
> > So desperate that i even tried a reboot :(
> >
> > Any pointers?
>
> What syntax did you use? On my Sarge system it's in /etc/profile with a
> simple "umask 022" line. Logging out and back in should be enough for
> this setting to take affect.
>
> What did you do to believe that the umask setting wasn't working?
>
> Jacob


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Re: systemwide umask definition?

[rich lott]

I have a similar experience with umask

in /etc/profile I have a line 
umask 0002  # to give owner and group rw access.

in /etc/login.defs I have the same (why capitals?)
#   UMASK   Default "umask" value.
UMASK   0002

and nothing in .bash_profile, but it still comes up 0022 when I check it with 
#umask

anyone help?

thanks
rich

On Friday 16 July 2004 17:49, Trollcollect wrote:
> Thanks to Jacob, i figured out that my statement/request was somewhat
> unprecise. What i really do want to do is to set a umask for OpenOffice
> w/kde, as well as all other kde applications. I noticed that if i open a
> terminal session, check the umask, it will not be set according to what i
> put in /etc/profile or /etc/login.defs. If, however, i su - into the same
> user, i see th correct umask. That leads me to the guess that kde sets a
> umask differently and independant of the login / standard umask. So the
> precise question would be: Where can i define a system wide umask for kde
> sessions?
>
> TIA,
> Dan
>
> "Jacob S." <> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:53:46 +0200 (CEST)
>
> Trollcollect wrote:
> > Hello List,
> >
> > please reply Cc: to me as i cant follow this list from
> > work.
> >
> > My problem is that i cant find where to set the system
> > wide umask for my sarge system. I've tried to do it in
> > /etc/profile as well as /etc/login.defs, to no avail.
> > So desperate that i even tried a reboot :(
> >
> > Any pointers?
>
> What syntax did you use? On my Sarge system it's in /etc/profile with a
> simple "umask 022" line. Logging out and back in should be enough for
> this setting to take affect.
>
> What did you do to believe that the umask setting wasn't working?
>
> Jacob


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problems using JACK

[rich lott]

First, is it right that you pretty much have to run jack (and therefore all 
audio apps) as root? I can't get it started as any other user - it starts but 
the clients can't find it.

Second, is there anyway to get Arts to use Jack? (and then, any way to get ESD 
to use it?) 

Call me radical, but I thought it would be really good if all my apps which 
make sounds could...well, make sounds, without interfering with/blocking 
eachother. I like jack because I play with hydrogen and audacity and so I 
appreciate the low latency. 

There doesn't seem to be much on the net about jack, perhaps it's too young 
yet?

thanks,

rich


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Re: apt-get dist-upgrade and /dev/input/mice

[John Smith]

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 17:27, Brian Walker wrote:
> Using Sarge and regularly apt-get updating and upgrading I ignored the
> uninstalled gnome and kde, using blackbox wm, mutt and slrn. Thought I
> would try to fix the box before migrating to unstable.
> 
> apt-get upgrade followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. Box is now borked.
> No mouse at log-in time, ^/Alt/F1 to command line. All seems well on
> dmesg, but XF86config error messages show that /dev/input/mice does
> not exist ... ls -l shows it present (and mouse0,1 and 2) but unable
> to be opened by most/less or xemacs.
> 
> dpkg --configure --pending shows unmet dependencies. Reading man dpkg
> and man dpkg-reconfigure  no luck with the choices there.
> aptitude, dselect both complain of the dependencies and stop there,
> just like dpkg (sorry, unable to paste the output, and am on the XP
> part of my system now)
> 
> dpkg --configure --pending shows a slew of unmet dependencies: current
> versions are newer than the required dependencies, as you would
> expect.
> 
> 1. How can I continue with the upgrade, ignoring these dependencies?
> Large numbers of updates remain unconfigured, and I cannot get the
> system to ignore the problems and pass onto the rest.
> 2. There is a dangerously unstable package - imhangul -
> half-installed. I am unable to install (as suggested by dpkg) nor can
> I remove. Which command can be tried? I have tried dpkg variants of
> -i, --ignore-depends, --reconfigure, --configure --pending, and
> apt-get remove
> 3. Should I forget the Srage version, and simply reconfigure the
> apt,sources for unstable, and dist-upgrade using aptitude from that?
> 
> Brian
> 

Hi Brian,

I had this a couple of times (I'm using Sarge for about half
a year) while updating/upgrading reguarly. In my experience there is
usually 1 package which causes this. By doing a apt-get -f install \
package, (-f == force) you can usually force your way through this,
although the last time I did this, I had to force a sid package in.

YMMV, DNTTAH etc.

Sincerely,

Jan.


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Re: any last words before I install kernel 2.6?

[John van Spaandonk]

On Thursday 15 July 2004 19:10, CW Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 03:02:05PM +0200, John van Spaandonk wrote:
> > On Wednesday 14 July 2004 11:39, John Summerfield wrote:
> > > John van Spaandonk wrote:
> > > >On Tuesday 13 July 2004 01:29, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > > >>Any last words before I
> > > >># apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7
> > > >>on my home (sid) PC?
> > > >>
> > > >>Will things break that used to work in 2.4?
> > > >
> > > >I still stick with 2.4 for the following reason.
> > > >
> > > >I use two ethernet cards:
> > > >eth0 is connected to the cable modem (it has to be this
> > > >particular card because of the MAC address)
>
> You can also use ifconfig to lie about the MAC address - I did this on
> one machine when I changed NICs and didn't want to hassle with my ISP
> regarding the change.
>
> E.g. add a
> pre-up ifconfig eth0 hw ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
> stanza to your network/interfaces file.  (Of course this doesn't solve
> the problem about them behaving differently in 2.4 vs. 2.6).
>
> > > >eth1 is my home network
> > > >2.6 reverses the names eth0 and eth1
> > > >Apparently the PCI scanning order
> > > >changed - right, why keep something the same if you can change it? :-)
>
> snip
>
> ifrename is available in Sarge & Sid (note I have not used it--but it
> seems suited for this purpose).  I suppose udev might do this also, but
> I haven't tried it.
>
> $apt-cache show ifrename
>
> Package: ifrename
> Priority: extra
> Section: net
> Installed-Size: 60

thanks.
Will try this..

John
> Maintainer: Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Architecture: i386
> Source: wireless-tools
> Version: 26+27pre22-1
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libiw27 (>= 26+27pre10)
> Filename: pool/main/w/wireless-tools/ifrename_26+27pre22-1_i386.deb
> Size: 37400
> MD5sum: 74b13cffda8ff9a00e779cd94db6c490
> Description: Rename network interfaces based on various static criteria
>  Ifrename allow the user to decide what name a network interface will have.
>  Ifrename can use a variety of selectors to specify how interface names
> match the network interfaces on the system, the most common selector is the
> interface MAC address.
>
> HTH
>
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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[Hendrik Boom]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:30:53PM +0800, Duggan wrote:
> Kirk Strauser wrote:
> 
> >On Friday 2004-07-16 08:59 am, Duggan wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>I know that this is a really n00bish question, but I have to ask.  What
> >>is the command that limits output from a command to just a page at a
> >>time, like the /p command in DOS?
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >less (or more).  As in, instead of running
> >
> >   $ command
> >
> >you pipe it's output into less (or more):
> >
> >   $ command | less
> >
> >Et voila!  You get the output one page at a time.
> > 
> >
> Okies, I get it now
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Elijah

That works for regular output.  However, some programs also emit
error messages onto stderr.  The above command will *not* redirect
error messages into less, so they might mess up the pagination.
To get error messages piped through less, use

command 2>&1 | less

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Re: Contributing to dict-freedict-* databases?

[Ryan Waye]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:34:21 GMT, Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't feel qualified to be a package maintainer but I would like to
> contribute content to some of the freedict bilingual dictionaries.  How
> would I do this?
> 
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Find the maintainers of these dictionaries, and contact them about
contributing.  If the package doesn't exist, ask for help on either
#debian-devel on freenode or on the debian developers mailing list.

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Re: apt-get dist-upgrade and /dev/input/mice

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Brian Walker (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Using Sarge and regularly apt-get updating and upgrading I ignored the
> uninstalled gnome and kde, using blackbox wm, mutt and slrn. Thought I
> would try to fix the box before migrating to unstable.
> 
> apt-get upgrade followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. Box is now borked.
> No mouse at log-in time, ^/Alt/F1 to command line. All seems well on
> dmesg, but XF86config error messages show that /dev/input/mice does
> not exist ... ls -l shows it present (and mouse0,1 and 2) but unable
> to be opened by most/less or xemacs.

Sounds like the necessary drivers aren't present. You should load the
mousedev and hid drivers, and the one for your USB host controller. For
2.4, you probably need usb_uhci, for 2.6 probably uhci_hcd (could the
difference in the names for 2.4 and 2.6 be the reason for your
problem?).

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: video very bad since a day or two

[Uwe Dippel]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:10:16 +0200, Kent West wrote:

> Sounds like some sort of video playing library has been replaced by 
> Mplayer, that is hosing your playback ability.

Kent and Ryan,

I've been busy with this over the last hours.

As of now, I see 2 things:


1. Xine works dependant on the display. On the notebook (1024x768) it is
okay; on the monitor (1600x1200) it isn't.
Might have to make with the chipset and shared memory; though everything
else is fine.


2. Mplayer does a lot of crap and crashing:
3 consecutive pop-ups:

'MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: unknown"

"MPlayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/FPU/RAM.
Recompile MPlayer with --enable-debug and make a 'gdb' backtrace and
disassembly. Details in DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports_what.html#bugreports_crash."

"MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your drivers _or_ in your
gcc version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault, please read
DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html and follow the instructions there. We can't and
won't help unless you provide this information when reporting a possible
bug."

This however goes away with another audio setting. The default (alsa) does
this. Just selecting a non-default (e.g. esd) - and starting esd, mine
wasn't up - results in a functional display and (heavily) delayed audio.
No more crashes. 
To confirm, I went back to Alsa and the same pop-ups as above including
crash.
IMHO this would be very weak on the side of mplayer, since there are no
indications that audio is responsible for these crashes.

I'll keep you updated should I find more; especially something about the
first item (memory ??) !

Uwe


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Re: systemwide umask definition?

[Trollcollect]

Thanks to Jacob, i figured out that my statement/request was somewhat unprecise. What i really do want to do is to set a umask for OpenOffice w/kde, as well as all other kde applications. I noticed that if i open a terminal session, check the umask, it will not be set according to what i put in /etc/profile or /etc/login.defs. If, however, i su - into the same user, i see th correct umask. That leads me to the guess that kde sets a umask differently and independant of the login / standard umask. So the precise question would be: Where can i define a system wide umask for kde sessions?
 
TIA,
Dan"Jacob S." <> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:53:46 +0200 (CEST)Trollcollect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Hello List,> > please reply Cc: to me as i cant follow this list from> work.> > My problem is that i cant find where to set the system> wide umask for my sarge system. I've tried to do it in> /etc/profile as well as /etc/login.defs, to no avail.> So desperate that i even tried a reboot :(> > Any pointers?What syntax did you use? On my Sarge system it's in /etc/profile with asimple "umask 022" line. Logging out and back in should be enough forthis setting to take affect.What did you do to believe that the umask setting wasn't working?Jacob-- GnuPG Key: 1024D/16377135Random .signature #13:The nice thing about Windows is - It doesn't just crash, it displays
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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[Thomas Adam]

--- Clive Menzies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> >From sid ~/.bashrc:
> # some more ls aliases
> #alias ll='ls -l' 
> #alias la='ls -A' 
> #alias l='ls -CF'
> 
> I would guess that this would also apply to sarge

Yup -- it is still commented out by default

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Re: When Will Postscript PPC FireFox Be Available?

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 the mental interface of
Ed Sutherland told:

> Does anyone know when the correct Mozilla-Firefox be available for the 
> PPC? I have 9.0.1, but it still crashes when I choose Print Preview or 
> try to print. (I prefer the Linux version to the OSX, but need a working 
> printing function. BTW, it won't save HTML or text pages, either.)

$ apt-cache show mozilla-firefox

Package: mozilla-firefox
Priority: optional
Section: web
Installed-Size: 29584
Maintainer: Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: powerpc
Version: 0.9.1-4
.

This is in unstable ;-)

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Re: Ximian Connector for Debian Sid

[Andy Firman]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 11:36:36AM -0400, Mark Roach wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 10:35 -0400, Andy Firman wrote:
> > Running Sid on my laptop with Evolution 1.4.6-3 and I would
> > like to connect to an Exchange server.
> 
> > There are some packages here:
> > http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/sid/
> > 
> > Or should one install evo1.5 from experimental?
> > Will that screw things up for me in regards to library dependancies?
> 
> I am using evo1.5 from experimental. It doesn't include the ximian
> connector. I installed evolution1.5-dev and pulled the cvs version of
> ximian conector (1_5_9_2 branch) and was able to compile and install it
> with a little fighting with makefiles but it seems pretty unstable. 
> 
> If you really want to get some work done stick with 1.4 and jdub's
> packages.

Yes that is what I really want but I am missing something.
Sorry if I am missing something obvious.

This is in my sources.list

deb http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/sid ./
deb-src http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/debian/sid ./

apt-cache search ximian-connector shows nothing.

How do I get his packages in?

 


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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[Greg Folkert]

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 10:28, Duggan wrote:
[snip]
> I tried both Thomas's and your suggestions and neither has worked.  Just 
> to clarify I am trying to use the dumpkeys command and the output from 
> it doesn't fit in one screen.  I am not working in an X environment so 
> there are no scroll bars so I'm trying to figure out how I can see the 
> output page by page.

dumpkeys | more

I am sure you don't have "less" installed.

Just to make sure you also understand that "|" is the caps of the
backslash (\) key, officially called pipe symbol.

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RE: KDE Fonts Too Large

[Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL]

I had this same issue until I learned how to use defoma (well, the gui
for it, actually) to add fonts to the system.  As it turned out I only
have about 6 fonts, none of which displayed properly by default.  With
defoma I added all of my fonts from my MS partition as well as a bunch
of .deb packages and my display is MUCH nicer.

My questions are:  
1. Is there a way to automate the font recognition for defoma, and/or
can one remove defoma without destroying things so that XFS handles the
fonts natively?  
2. Why would this be a good idea/bad idea?

Joseph Freivald

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On 2004-07-15, * Tong* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:13:03 +0300, Janjs Jangori wrote:
>> 
>> Frist I vi edited the /etc/X11/XF86Config (Kent! am still learning to
use 
>> dpkg-configuration tool) so that the 75dpi fonts come b4 the 100dpi
and 
>> nothing happened. 
>
> Erhh, did you restart x?

Also, are you running xfs? If so, the font path is set in 
/etc/X11/fs/config.

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Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

[Patrick Albuquerque]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:08:07AM -0500, Jacob S. wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:31:24 +0100 (BST)
> Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Making up commands is not a good practise to get into. There is no
> > command"ll". If you mean "ll" to be an alias for "ls -l" then you
> > should have stated so, since "ll" is not a standard alias at all, as
> > far as bash is concerned in Debian.
> 
> Have you looked at ~/.bashrc lately? ll _is_ a standard alias in mine,
> or at least the installer put it there when I installed Debian Potato.
> Woody seems to comment it out by default, but it's still there. Not sure
> about Sarge.
> 
> Jacob

gauss% ll
zsh: command not found: ll

It is considered a bug in Debian for a script to blindly assume bash is
shell.

Patrick.
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Re: systemwide umask definition?

[Jacob S.]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:53:46 +0200 (CEST)
Trollcollect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello List,
> 
> please reply Cc: to me as i cant follow this list from
> work.
> 
> My problem is that i cant find where to set the system
> wide umask for my sarge system. I've tried to do it in
> /etc/profile as well as /etc/login.defs, to no avail.
> So desperate that i even tried a reboot :(
> 
> Any pointers?

What syntax did you use? On my Sarge system it's in /etc/profile with a
simple "umask 022" line. Logging out and back in should be enough for
this setting to take affect.

What did you do to believe that the umask setting wasn't working?

Jacob

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