Howto change the default font used by gs?

2004-12-08 Thread Bruno Boettcher
Hello!

still trying to get my printer (aculaser c4100) working...

actually the stuff issued is written out in a too big font (lines merge
a littel)  and a font that wobbles over the lines...

i looked at dfontmgr but don't understand a thing about it...
tryed to install the different fonts i would like in the different tabs,
  but no change to the thing cups issues...

Its not the printer... i printed out the fonts it is able to use, and
the one in my printouts isn't there...

so i am quite stuck


BTW would there be a way to tell gs to use the inbuild fonts of the
printer?

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Re: Help

2004-12-08 Thread Kent West
samuel prakash wrote:
sir
   I am from india. I recently got your debian linux
on a DVD as a free issue from a magazine "PC quest". I
used linux kernel 2.6 on my machine running pentium 4
with mercury motherboard using intel 845GL as chipset.
after installing the gnome starts only with 640 x 480.
I cant change the resolution and when i try to login
as root in the GUI mode it says login as root is not
allowed.please send me the solution to
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If I may, I'd like to suggest that you use a more meaningful subject 
line, such as "Can't log in as root to Gnome" or "How do I change 
resolution in X?". Otherwise, a lot of smart people on this list will 
just toss your email into the trash, and you'll never get the benefit of 
their expertise.

To answer your questions:
You should be able to reconfigure the resolution with the command 
"dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" as root. Since this list, and the 
Debian organization proper is not responsible for whatever CD was 
shipped by "PC Quest", we don't know what version of CD you have; it's 
probably Woody, which is really old, and may not properly support the 
845GL chipset. If not, you'll probably want to use the "svga" driver; it 
it does support, I'd guess that uses the i810 driver, but I'm not sure. 
It the CD contains Testing or Sid instead of Woody, or if you were to 
upgrade from Woody, you'd probably have more chance of having support 
for your video circuits.

You should not run X as root; too many security issues. Instead, shell 
out to a different Virtual Terminal (VT 1 thrugh 6 are available by 
default) with Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6]; you can get back to X with Ctrl-Alt-F7. 
While in a VT, you can log in as root. Alternatively, while in X, you 
can use "su" from a terminal to become root within that terminal, or, my 
preference, install and configure "sudo" which will allow you to elevate 
your privileges for a single command.

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Sarge Install help (kernel panic)

2004-12-08 Thread Simon Buchanan
OK just completed primary mail server. HW is Tyan Tiger i3320 mobo, 
dual 2.8 xeon nocona, 2GB kingston ECC registered ram, 3ware 9000 4 
port SATA with 4 x 200GB drives. installed sarge using 'linux26' 
install... the lan and raid card are all recognised perfect... 
partitioned the drive, proceeded with install, eject disk and reboot. 
re-booting fine until this bit:

booting message, yada yada...
...
SCSI subsystem initialized
pivot_root: no suck file or directory
/sbin/init: 42: cannot open dev/console: no such file
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
Then it just stops. eh?
Any help at this stage is GREATLY needed!
Simon
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udev question

2004-12-08 Thread Kudret Güler
udev creates /dev/hdc(burner) with permissions 640 and with owner
root.hal. Therefore hal group members cannot burn. And any change is
reversed on reboot. How can I tell udev to create it with permissions
660? Or should I just put it in a script to chmod /dev/hdc on every
boot?


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AUTOREPLY from Firenze.net

2004-12-08 Thread bellacopia
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RE: Sarge ttyS0 (COM1) Software Issues

2004-12-08 Thread Pete
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 17:09 -0600, Croy, Nathan wrote:
> > From: Pete [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 1:26 PM
> > 
> > I'm having some issues with ttyS0 (COM1) on my mail server. I'm trying
> > to get it to work with NUT, but I cannot communicate through 
> > the serial
> > port.
> 
> Assuming the port works (I usually test with a modem), APC UPS's need a
> special cable.  There are instructions on NUT's and apcupsd's website
> (iirc).  The smart UPS's also might need a special command sent to them
> before they will talk to you.  Other UPS's may or may not be similar.
> 
> 
Hi Nathan,

As I said in the initial post, I tested it with a modem booting from a
floppy, and it tested fine, so the serial port isn't faulty
(thankfully!).

It's actually a Sola UPS, and I had it working previously with NUT on my
old mail server which has now been retired.

The "Q1" command is what I normally need to type in Minicom to get it to
respond, but this isn't working.

Thanks for the response though.

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Re: X.org <-----> Xfree

2004-12-08 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 07:51:47PM +0100, Roelof Wobben wrote:
> Is X.org better than Xfree ??

No.  It's "different".  Someday it may be "better", for some values of
"better", but not yet.

> Does someone has X.org getting on work with debian Sarge ??

Xorg will wait until Sarge+1 (namely, Etch).  You don't need it anyway.

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Re: Help

2004-12-08 Thread Emil Perhinschi
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:45:21 -0800 (PST)
samuel prakash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> sir
> 
> I am from india. I recently got your debian linux
> on a DVD as a free issue from a magazine "PC quest". I
> used linux kernel 2.6 on my machine running pentium 4
> with mercury motherboard using intel 845GL as chipset.
> after installing the gnome starts only with 640 x 480.
> I cant change the resolution and when i try to login
> as root in the GUI mode it says login as root is not
> allowed.please send me the solution to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   

Well, you shouldn't login as root, especially in GUI mode: think Windows
and viruses, malicious software or possible bugs that result in a
trashed system ... If you log in as  a normal user, you will trash only
your files, but if you log in as root you will be able trash *all* the
files on the computer.

In my oppinion the only correct way to use root is to log in as a user
withour superuser privileges and use "su" to switch to "root" when you
need it for administrative tasks that cannot be performed otherwise.

Have you tried running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"?

Emil P.


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Re: xprt print.org printing and firefox debian sarge

2004-12-08 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:17:42PM -0500, John Kerr Anderson wrote:
> I've noticed this annoying "problem" with the xprt printing in mozilla 
> firefox.  I have 3 printers, and instead of going to the default laser it 
> wants to print to my inkjet instead as the 1st option.


Easily.  Don't use Xprint.

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Help

2004-12-08 Thread samuel prakash
sir

I am from india. I recently got your debian linux
on a DVD as a free issue from a magazine "PC quest". I
used linux kernel 2.6 on my machine running pentium 4
with mercury motherboard using intel 845GL as chipset.
after installing the gnome starts only with 640 x 480.
I cant change the resolution and when i try to login
as root in the GUI mode it says login as root is not
allowed.please send me the solution to
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Help

2004-12-08 Thread samuel prakash
sir

I am from india. I recently got your debian linux
on a DVD as a free issue from a magazine "PC quest". I
used linux kernel 2.6 on my machine running pentium 4
with mercury motherboard using intel 845GL as chipset.
after installing the gnome starts only with 640 x 480.
I cant change the resolution and when i try to login
as root in the GUI mode it says login as root is not
allowed.please send me the solution to
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Re: Debian retail kit?

2004-12-08 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 04:57:24PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> I'm looking for suggestions on what people would expect in a retail kit 
> for Debian, as I've been put in charge of pushing Debian in the shop I 
> work at.
> 
> Right now, since we're concerned only with i386, I'm thinking a Sarge CD 
> set and a printed copy of the installation manual, all in a single 
> binder.  Sarge RC2 net-inst CDs have been selling with lukewarm 
> reception at $9.50 for the CD by itself in an envelope, but I think I 
> can do better than that.  I haven't found anybody who sells boxed 
> Debian sets, and haven't seen any discussion in the archives this 
> decade about the topic.
> 
> Target audience are more experienced Windows users looking for a way 
> out.
> 
> So if anybody has any suggestions for what a small shop can put 
> together, or a distributor that sells Debian boxed sets, I'm looking to 
> hear from you.

I would highly avoid "selling" a non-release version.  If you want to
sell a version more current then woody now, I would look to Ubuntu or
other similar Debian based distro.  Selling a customer a non-release
verion with no security support is not in either your or the customer's
best interest.

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Configuring proftpd

2004-12-08 Thread Mike




I am trying to configure proftpd on my woody box and having no
success.

I want to beable to log in with the account called "upload" an have all
premissions.  
I want all files to be uploaded into the /var/www folder. 
I am very confused.
I followed the documentation and had no luck.  Can somebody lend me a
hand?


# This is a basic ProFTPD
configuration file (rename it to
# 'proftpd.conf' for actual use.  It
establishes a single server
# and a single anonymous login.  It assumes
that you have a user/group
# "nobody" and "ftp" for normal operation
and anon.

ServerName  "Debian"
ServerType  standalone
DeferWelcome    off

ShowSymlinks    on
MultilineRFC2228    on
DefaultServer   on
ShowSymlinks    on
AllowOverwrite  on

TimeoutNoTransfer   600
TimeoutStalled  600
TimeoutIdle 1200

DisplayLogin    welcome.msg
DisplayFirstChdir   .message
LsDefaultOptions    "-l"

DenyFilter  \*.*/

# Uncomment this if you are using NIS or LDAP to retrieve passwords:
#PersistentPasswd   off

# Port 21 is the standard FTP port.
Port    21

# To prevent DoS attacks, set the maximum number of child processes
# to 30.  If you need to allow more than 30
concurrent connections
# at once, simply increase this value. 
Note that this ONLY works
# in standalone mode, in inetd mode you
should use an inetd server
# that allows you to limit maximum number
of processes per service
# (such as xinetd)
MaxInstances    30

# Set the user and group that the server normally runs at.
User    nobody
Group   nogroup

# Normally, we want files to be overwriteable.

  
    AllowAll
  
  
    AllowAll
  
  # Umask 022 is a good standard umask to
prevent new files and dirs
  # (second parm) from being group and
world writable.
  Umask 022  022

  AllowOverwrite    on


# A basic anonymous configuration, no upload directories.

## 
##   User   ftp
##   Group 
nogroup
##   # We want clients to be able to login
with "anonymous" as well as "ftp"
##   UserAlias  anonymous
ftp
##
##   RequireValidShell  off
##
##   # Limit the maximum number of
anonymous logins
##   MaxClients 10
##
##   # We want 'welcome.msg' displayed at
login, and '.message' displayed
##   # in each newly chdired directory.
##   DisplayLogin  
welcome.msg
##   DisplayFirstChdir  .message
##
##   # Limit WRITE everywhere in the
anonymous chroot
##   
## 
##   DenyAll
## 
##   
##
##   # Uncomment this if you're brave.
##   # 
##   #   # Umask 022 is a good standard
umask to prevent new files and dirs
##   #   # (second parm) from being group
and world writable.
##   #   Umask 
022  022
##   #    
##   #    DenyAll
##   #    
##   #    
##   #    AllowAll
##   #    
##   # 
##
## 




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Re: Learning GTK+ proramming under Debian

2004-12-08 Thread Nayyar Ahmed
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:12:31 -0500, Mark Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 16:42 -0600, Michael Madden wrote:
> > What resource(s) would you recommend to someone who's new to GUI programming
> > and would like to learn GTK+ development under Debian Woody/Sarge?  I've
> > messed around with Motif and Xlib in the past on HP-UX and Solaris, but GTK+
> > or Qt seem more acceptable under Linux.  Maybe there's a recommended book or
> > online resource to learning GTK+?
Hello,
>
> This is a recently released book about GTK+/Gnome software development.
> http://nostarch.com/gnome.htm

Is there any Online version of the BOOK.

thanks
> 
> This is a good overview of programming with GTK and Glade with examples
> in C, C++, python and perl
> http://www.gnome.org/~newren/tutorials/developing-with-gnome/
> 
> For just getting started, I would suggest glade + pygtk. The concepts
> are very easily transferred to C.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: Fw:Mewbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-08 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
I agree, close this thread.  the main issue was resolved with a reinstall.
Thanks for the sources.list info.
Leonard Chatagnier
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From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Fw:Mewbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work


> Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
>
> >From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> >>Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Well. finally achieved partial success.  Modem, ppp,wvdial and gnome
GUI now working without error messages except Mozilla mail client still gets
mail from the wrong account.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Somewhere in the Moz menus will be an "Account Options" or similar item
> >>(on Thunderbird, it's "Tools" / "Account Settings"). Delete the wrong
> >>account; create the correct account.
> >>
> >>
> >Gee, I thought I made it clear that I have only one account set up and
have deleted it several times and restarted.  I set up [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]  User ID is lchata and I think Mozilla is
getting confused. Getting correct email set up with outlook express
> >worked the first time when I first changed addresses.
> >
> >
>
> Is Outlook Express responsible for the horrible quoting style I'm seeing
> in this email (which I've cleaned up in this reply)? If so, it's hardly
> a program to be praising, even if it is easy to set up.
>
> Perhaps you did make it clear that you only have one account set up and
> have deleted it & restarted several times in an earlier posting, but
> this list generates way too much traffic for most people to remember
> details not specified in the immediate context.
>
> At any rate, what you're describing is not being understood by me. Maybe
> you should start a new thread with an appropriate subject line to deal
> with just this one issue.
>
> >>>Dselect didn't run.  The reinstall failed
> >>>everyltime I used my backup CD' so I turned to the originals to
reinstall
> >>>and it still didn't complete dselect as on the original installation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I'm beginning to think you have bad/damaged CDs.
> >>
> >>
> >Ditto, I think the same. So I used the unused original disks and still
had errors.  The originals from Linux CD-r's could be corrupt.
> >
> >
>
> Could be.
>
>
> >>In order to inform your system of newer stuff, like newer
> >>kernels, you'll have to point your system to a different source for
> >>packages.
> >>
> >>
> >Ok, I've changed sources.list from stable to testing and commented out
the CD entries and assume I will see Sarge kernel images to download when I
run `apt-get dist-upgrade.  Right?  Can I just upgrade the kernel to Sarge
to start instead of updating/upgrading the entire Debian distribution or
> >will that cause problems?  I only have dialup modem service.
> >
> >
>
> Just changing "stable" to "testing" won't do the job, as your
> sources.list file is currently (presumably) only looking toward your
> on-hand set of CDs. You'll have to add appropriate lines for grabbing
> files off the network. "man sources.list" is a good reference, but to
> get you started, here's what my sources.list file looks like (I only
> pull from the net; no CDs, etc):
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk:> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> > #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main
> >
> > deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main
> > # deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main
> >
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
>
>
> PS: It's a good idea to prune excess material that's no longer needed in
your reply. It's also a good idea to not "top post", but rather to place
your response directly below whatever you're responding to. It's my
understanding that Outlook Express encourages top-posting by putting your
cursor at the top of a reply email; very bad, nasty habit.
>
>
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hardware raid card recognition before mount of /lib/modules/2.6.9-1-386 and raid2

2004-12-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I just installed a debian system on a machine that stores data on a hardware 
raid 3ware 7806-5 and another system that uses an adaptec 2400a. both are ata 
hardware raid devices. During bootup, the boot halts while going 
through /etc/rcS.d/ when it runs S30checkfs.sh because the kernel module 
(either 3w- or the one for adaptec) is  not loaded and it cant run 
fsck.ext3 on /dev/sda1. I cant just run S36discover earlier, because at that 
point in the boot the file system /lib/modules/2.6.9-1-386 is not mounted and 
it cant find the module.  
I have a workaround of leaving /dev/sda1 out of /etc/fstab, and mounting 
manually later in the /etc/rc2.d, but that is not elegant :).
I could compile the kernel to have the 3w- in the kernel, but it is much 
easier for me to use stock debian kernels.
I see that a similar issue is addressed for software raid by having a script
/etc/rcS.d/S24raid2  for the software raid earlier in the boot process.
Is there a simple solution for me : perhaps i copy the 3w- module itself 
to the /boot directory and create a script to run insmod /boot/3w- 
earlier in the boot process?
Thanks,
Mitchell  
 
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Re: X.org <-----> Xfree

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 14:18 -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 December 2004 12:51, Roelof Wobben wrote:
> 
> > Is X.org better than Xfree ??
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > Does someone has X.org getting on work with debian Sarge ??
> 
> If you're asking if X.org will be packaged for Sarge: yes, although it might 
> take a while.

From rom what I understand, X.org will wait until Sarge+1.  Don't
know how long after Sarge is released before X.org replaces XFree
4.3 in Sid, though.

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Re: Sending all processes the TERM signal

2004-12-08 Thread HXD
In addition, after system booted up, I get the following error:
 
"kernel panic: attempted to kill init"
 
and the system hangs.
 
Hung HXD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

After upgrading kernel to 2.6.x from Sarge install on my HP DL380, I get the following msg when I try rebooting at which point the system hangs:
 
"Sending all processes the TERM signal".
 
Anyone come across this before with any suggestions.
 
Thanks,
 
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Sending all processes the TERM signal

2004-12-08 Thread HXD
After upgrading kernel to 2.6.x from Sarge install on my HP DL380, I get the following msg when I try rebooting at which point the system hangs:
 
"Sending all processes the TERM signal".
 
Anyone come across this before with any suggestions.
 
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Re: web mail interface

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 21:08 -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
> Grant wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 18:54, Jacob S wrote:
> > 
> >>On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:29:47 -0800 (PST)
> >>"Ron Farrer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> 
> Thank you.  Something encouraging out there.
> I was starting to think I was somehow insane...

Who says you're not?

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Re: new to debian -- a few questions

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 16:17 -0600, Steve Block wrote:
> Chris Lale wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 15:44, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> > 
> >>On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 07:13:50AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>   > 
> >>   > Last I checked, v2.8 is not in Sarge, yet.  Besides, I run Sid,
> >>   > so don't care that much about Sarge.
> >>   > 
> >>I think about 4 days back it made it into sarge. I have it on my system.
> >>
> >>$ apt-cache policy gnome-session
> >>gnome-session:
> >>  Installed: 2.8.1-3
> >>  Candidate: 2.8.1-3
> >>  Version Table:
> >> 2.8.1-4 0
> >> 95 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages
> >> *** 2.8.1-3 0
> >>900 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages
> >>100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think so.
> > 
> > $ apt-cache policy gnome-session
> > gnome-session:
> >   Installed: 2.6.2-6
> >   Candidate: 2.6.2-6
> >   Version Table:
> >  *** 2.6.2-6 0
> > 500 ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org sarge/main Packages
> > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> > 
> > Chris.
> 
> Chris, have you run apt-get update recently? I have two machines running 
> Sarge, both updated within the last 24 hours, both reporting gnome 
> 2.8.1-3 as the latest installable gnome version.

Since it takes a few days for all the packages to filter into a
branch, Sarge may still be a mixture of 2.6 & 2.8.

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re: cannot display with res 1024x768

2004-12-08 Thread jack kinnon
Hi,
 
You can read through all the mails concerning my problem in Debian's Dec User mail-list by "Author".
 
Cheers
 
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apt-get over SSH - unexpected results

2004-12-08 Thread Ivan Teliatnikov
I have difficulties installing a package on a Debian Sarge machine. The
problem is rather strange, installation fails when I run apt-get
remotely over ssh and works fine when I work on the console. 

In more details:
 
If I login to a remove host using ssh and run command 

apt-get install fam

everything works perfectly.

However I experience a problem with installing FAM (only fam) using a
script that runs installation command on remove host via SSH.

Remote session gets stack on starting fam daemon. 

When terminated by Ctrl-C command process on a remote machine leaves
dirty "lock" /var/lib/dpkg/lock and /var/cache/apt/archives/lock.

"apt-get install pkg_name" would not work on the remote machine until I
remove "dirty" locks and run "dpkg --configure -a" to finish fam
installation.

Problem can be recreate by following steps:

1) Make a bash script install_fam.sh
#!/bin/bash
ssh $1 "apt-get install fam"

2) If fam is installed on the remove machine uninstall it and run the
script to install fam on the remote machine

$ ./install_fam.sh remote_machine

Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  fam
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 24 not upgraded.
Need to get 69.2kB of archives.
After unpacking 213kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 ftp://mirror.cse.unsw.edu.au sarge/main fam 2.7.0-6 [69.2kB]
Fetched 69.2kB in 1s (41.4kB/s)
Selecting previously deselected package fam.
(Reading database ... 139246 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking fam (from .../archives/fam_2.7.0-6_i386.deb) ...
Setting up fam (2.7.0-6) ...
Starting file alteration monitor: 

# At this point remote process stops indefinitely.

# Pressing Ctrl-C
Killed by signal 2.

There is obviously a bug somewhere but it is not obvious to me where to
report it, is this is this a problem with fam or openssh? 

What do I need to do to report this bug.

Thank you in advance.



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Re: Cloning a workstation [PowerCockpit]

2004-12-08 Thread ocl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2004-12-08 19:51:
Try PowerCockpit.
Allows you to copy an image of the original workstation (to a file) then deploy the image to another machine (which may be dissimilar).
Are you sure it supports Debian?
http://www.mountainviewdata.com/us/products/pwc/pwc_system.html
The URL above says it supports these (only?)
RedHat Enterprise Linux AS / ES / WS 2.1 (3.0 soon)
RedHat Linux 7.3 / 8.0 / 9.0
TurboLinux 7 Server / Workstation
TurboLinux 8 Server / Workstation
TurboLinux Enterprise Server 8 (United Linux)
SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 7
SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 8
SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional / Personal
SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional / Personal
SuSE Linux 8.1 Professional / Personal
SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional / Personal
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xprt print.org printing and firefox debian sarge

2004-12-08 Thread John Kerr Anderson
Hi,
I've noticed this annoying "problem" with the xprt printing in mozilla 
firefox.  I have 3 printers, and instead of going to the default laser it 
wants to print to my inkjet instead as the 1st option.

Is there anyway, to change the order it appears from the print menu?  Some 
users will accidently print because the inkjet appears 1st.  I found 
something on the XPRt site but I couldn't get it to work.  :-(

Any help would be appreciated... thanks in advance.  :-)

John Kerr Anderson
"Yeah, cheers thanks a lot."
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Re: putting ascii keys in a script

2004-12-08 Thread Richard Hector
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 08:54:52AM +0800, Robert Vangel wrote:
> Michael Martinell wrote:
> >I have a script that I need to send an enter keystroke with.
> >
> >On the keyboard I can do alt + 013 which is the ascii code for the enter
> >key.  I wanted to put this into my script using vi.  Any suggestions for an
> >escape-type sequence that will record the keystroke and not cause vi to
> >interpret it as a request to insert a new line?
> 
> what about
> 
> echo -e "\n"

Or if you really need the actual character (or another special
character), type ctrl-v first.

Richard


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Re: web mail interface

2004-12-08 Thread Tom Allison
Grant wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 18:54, Jacob S wrote:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:29:47 -0800 (PST)
"Ron Farrer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, December 8, 2004 4:29, Robert Vangel said:
Gregory Seidman wrote:
I use squirrelmail on top of courier-imap, but I haven't tried it
with> particularly large mailboxes. I have no trouble sending email
through> it,
however.
I use squirrelmail on top of courier-imap as well (sometimes..
thunderbird right now), and I have folders larger than 3000 emails,
and I have no problems.
I'd suggest that the original poster has a configuration or IMAP
server issue. I use squirrelmail with uw-imapd without any problems on
a multiuser server. I have one folder with just over 2000 emails and
it handles it just fine.
I've seen this problem before, but I don't think it's a bug. We had a
user with several mailboxes with more than a couple thousand e-mails per
folder. We're also running squirrelmail on top of courier-imap.
The current development version of squirrelmail has a new feature for
the purpose of correcting this. Current (in Sarge) versions of
squirrelmail look at the headers for every e-mail in the folder. The new
version will only look at the headers for each e-mail that will be
displayed on the current page. 

HTH,
Jacob

Hey just thought i would say my bit :)
I have courier-imap running here on a freebsd boxen... its got a frw
mail accounts of around 18,000 mails in at the mo. squirrel wont even
log me into the account over about 2,000 it seemed to give up on me,
the server IS configured correctly.
I use evolution and thunderbird for desktop clients 
and for webmail the only client i have found that dont crap its self at
the large sized box is IlohaMail which loads the account perfect and
fast :-) 

so maybe give that a try :)
just me bit :P
Bye!
Grant.

Thank you.  Something encouraging out there.
I was starting to think I was somehow insane...
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Re: web mail interface

2004-12-08 Thread Tom Allison
Gregory Seidman wrote:
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 06:49:20AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
} I'm getting kind of sick of squirrelmail.
} 
} It have a very lame feature that mailboxes in excess of 1500 to 2000 
} emails simply don't load or fail to work correctly.  That and I am 
} getting hit with SERVER_RESPONSE errors every time I send anything.

Squirrelmail sits on top of an IMAP server. You might check to make sure
that it is squirrelmail, not the IMAP server, that can't handle that large
mailboxes. Try connecting to the IMAP server using some client (e.g.
Thunderbird) and see if the large mailboxes work properly.
In addition, did sending email ever work through squirrelmail? If not, it
sounds like it is misconfigured. That is fixable.
I've been using this for about a year now.
firefox can handle mailboxes in excess of 10,000 emails.
squirrelmail can't handle 3,000.
I've written some perl scripts that manage IMAP connections on this 
server up to the same 10,000 with no problem.

squirrelmail has worked for years.  But lately it's been inconsistent.
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Strange LVM on RAID Behaviour with Sarge

2004-12-08 Thread Lucas Barbuto
Hi All,

Can someone explain this strange LVM2 on RAID-1 behaviour?

I've recently made a fresh install of Sarge using a recent
debian-installer (more recent than RC2).  I've got two 80GB SATA drives.
 I've partitioned them as follows:

>8 0  117220824 sda
>8 1  32098 sda1
>8 2   39062047 sda2
>8 3   39062047 sda3
>8 4   39062047 sda4
>816  117220824 sdb
>817  32098 sdb1
>818   39062047 sdb2
>819   39062047 sdb3
>820   39062047 sdb4

With software RAID-1 between each of these partitions (sda1 + sda2 = md0
and so on).  /dev/md0 (small) is for /boot.  /dev/md1 and /dev/md2 are
combined into a LVM2 volume group (vg0) and hold my other system
partitions including the root partition.  Another volume group (vg1)
fills /dev/md3, I plan to use it for backup, or just as some space that
I can use to grow my other partitions as needed.

So everything installed fine with the 2.6 kernel (2.6.8-1-386) booting
off RAID-1, all partitions except /boot in logical volumes.

I get this error at the top of dmesg (repeated many times):

> devfs_mk_dir: invalid argument.<4>devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent 
> for /disc

I don't know if that means anything... yesterday, I added another IDE
device to the system and it showed up as /dev/hdd as I expected and I
formatted it and copied some backup files onto it.  Then I noticed that
/dev/md3 was running in degraded mode, missing /dev/sda4.  I was unable
to hot-add the device back in:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mdadm /dev/md3 -a /dev/sda4
> mdadm: hot add failed for /dev/sda4: Invalid argument

And I get this message on the console:

> md: trying to hot-add unknown-block(8,4) to md3 ...
> md: could not lock unknown-block(8,4).

I did a lot of googling but didn't turn up much, except that maybe
something else could be accessing the device?  In the past I'd had an
experience where the RAID hadn't started properly and LVM2 had started
using the RAID member device as it's physical volumes.  This didn't
really make sense but I thought I'd try it.  So I deleted my logical
volume off vg1 and removed vg1 and magically, mdadm let me hot-add
/dev/sda4 back in and happily started syncing it up... so I recreated
the volume group and a logical volume and formatted and mounted it, all
seemed to work fine... but I rebooted and /dev/md3 was back in degraded
mode... and there was gnashing of teeth.

So now I am stuck.  Anyone?  I thought I understood enough about RAID-1
and LVM2 but perhaps not.  So is the LVM interfering by starting up
before the md devices are ready?  This only happens with md3, the others
are working fine.

Thanks,

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Re: Learning GTK+ proramming under Debian

2004-12-08 Thread Lex Hider
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 16:42 -0600, Michael Madden wrote:
> What resource(s) would you recommend to someone who's new to GUI programming
> and would like to learn GTK+ development under Debian Woody/Sarge?  I've
> messed around with Motif and Xlib in the past on HP-UX and Solaris, but GTK+ 
> or Qt seem more acceptable under Linux.  Maybe there's a recommended book or 
> online resource to learning GTK+?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
> 

ebook-dev-ggad package  is an ebook although it's before gtk/gnome 2.


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Debian retail kit?

2004-12-08 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm looking for suggestions on what people would expect in a retail kit 
for Debian, as I've been put in charge of pushing Debian in the shop I 
work at.

Right now, since we're concerned only with i386, I'm thinking a Sarge CD 
set and a printed copy of the installation manual, all in a single 
binder.  Sarge RC2 net-inst CDs have been selling with lukewarm 
reception at $9.50 for the CD by itself in an envelope, but I think I 
can do better than that.  I haven't found anybody who sells boxed 
Debian sets, and haven't seen any discussion in the archives this 
decade about the topic.

Target audience are more experienced Windows users looking for a way 
out.

So if anybody has any suggestions for what a small shop can put 
together, or a distributor that sells Debian boxed sets, I'm looking to 
hear from you.

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Re: putting ascii keys in a script

2004-12-08 Thread Robert Vangel
Michael Martinell wrote:
I have a script that I need to send an enter keystroke with.
On the keyboard I can do alt + 013 which is the ascii code for the enter
key.  I wanted to put this into my script using vi.  Any suggestions for an
escape-type sequence that will record the keystroke and not cause vi to
interpret it as a request to insert a new line?
Thanks for any help.
Michael Martinell
Manager of Information Systems 
Dakota Nation Gaming Enterprise 
(605) 882 2051 ext 716


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putting ascii keys in a script

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Martinell
I have a script that I need to send an enter keystroke with.

On the keyboard I can do alt + 013 which is the ascii code for the enter
key.  I wanted to put this into my script using vi.  Any suggestions for an
escape-type sequence that will record the keystroke and not cause vi to
interpret it as a request to insert a new line?

Thanks for any help.

Michael Martinell
Manager of Information Systems 
Dakota Nation Gaming Enterprise 
(605) 882 2051 ext 716



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Re: Sarge KDE weird icon colors on selecting/highliting?

2004-12-08 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Joao Clemente [Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:14:07 +]:

> Then I notisted that gnome does not show this behaviour. It's ok.

> KDE bug?

  kde known bug, fixed un t-p-u and in sid. please understand what is
  t-p-u before using it.

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Sarge KDE weird icon colors on selecting/highliting?

2004-12-08 Thread Joao Clemente
My KDE installation on two different (and updated) "sarge" machines 
shows weird KDE colors when selecting an icon (for instance, the 
"folder" icons gets greenish in one of the machines, one the user one it 
gets some purple zones in some areas of the icon)

It happens with all (well... I havent't checked every one of them) icons.
At first I tought it was some XFree driver problem, so I changed to 16 
and 8 colors, tried "ati", "radeon" and "vesa" drivers (this was 
specifically on a laptop with a Radeon7500Mobile), and they all produced 
the same results.

Then I notisted that gnome does not show this behaviour. It's ok.
KDE bug?
Joao Clemente
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Re: Learning GTK+ proramming under Debian

2004-12-08 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Michael Madden wrote:
What resource(s) would you recommend to someone who's new to GUI programming
and would like to learn GTK+ development under Debian Woody/Sarge?  I've
messed around with Motif and Xlib in the past on HP-UX and Solaris, but GTK+ 
or Qt seem more acceptable under Linux.  Maybe there's a recommended book or 
online resource to learning GTK+?

Thanks in advance,
Mike

You may want to also look at wxWidgets.  If you are not interested in
features of GTK+ that do not exist elsewhere, then it is a good choice.
It also has a very intuitive structure, is extremely well documented,
and has the added bonus if using GTK2 as it's widget set in Linux.  The
really nice thing is that if you write code portably, wxWidgets will
let you port it to straight X11, Mac OS X, Windows, OS/2, Motif, and so
on.  In each case, it uses the native facilities of the chosen toolkit
or OS.
I used it to develop an application I wrote for my thesis, and found it
very easy to pick up quickly.
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Re: Cloning a workstation

2004-12-08 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Sarunas Burdulis wrote:
Thank you for all the input. Certainly more than one way to do it, as 
usual... For the single case a simple scp/rsync + grub install seems 
adequate. However partimage looks like something worth getting familiar 
with --- so I'll try that.

Sarunas

For your needs, systemimager may be a better choice.  I have used it
in a lab environment to install similar machines.  You would need an
image server (just a machine with enough space to store your images).
systemimager has some really nice features.
The image of your system is stored on image server in a directory under
/var/lib/systemimage (default).  This is really nice because you can
chroot into the image which is not running to, for example, update
packages, etc.
If you install a tftp server, you can set your machines to boot off
the network and the tftp server will push the image out.  I believe
you can even configure to push a particular image from a selection
of several based on IP or MAC address.
The best feature, in my opinion, is that it can handle installing the
image to machines with different hardware.  E.g., you have an image
which occupies only 5 GB.  systemimager will install it to pretty much
machine with sufficient hard drive space as long as things like the
CPU arch and hardrive (IDE vs SCSI) are the same.
You can also set it to exclude/include various parts of the image.
For example, you image contains /usr/local/pkg1/ and /usr/local/pkg2
but you don't both installed on a particular machine.  You can
have it ignore /usr/local/pkg1 (or pkg2) as it pushes the image.
This can be done for any part of the directory tree.
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Re: Learning GTK+ proramming under Debian

2004-12-08 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 04:42:45PM -0600, Michael Madden wrote:
> What resource(s) would you recommend to someone who's new to GUI programming
> and would like to learn GTK+ development under Debian Woody/Sarge?  I've
> messed around with Motif and Xlib in the past on HP-UX and Solaris, but GTK+ 
> or Qt seem more acceptable under Linux.  Maybe there's a recommended book or 
> online resource to learning GTK+?

I used dia2code to get my feet wet with a very Visual Basic like 
experience.  It automatically creates a autoconf/automake project, uses 
glade to design some forms and buttons and double-click to create event 
handlers and wire up code behind.

>From there, I quickly used that output as a template for building my own 
autoconf/automake project and just used Kate as a syntax-highlighting 
editor and http://gtk.org/api in a browser for reference.

If you're already familiar with C#, VB, and Win32 programming the gtk 
C-based "object" model is a snap.  It stays crunchy even in milk!


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Re: Debian's at(1) is so bad, what does GNU use?

2004-12-08 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
   Constructive me says: Debian's at(1) is so bad, one can't even do
   $ at next year
   parse error. Last token seen: year
   Garbled time
   $ at now + 12 months #Sigh. Must use instead.

   No wonder. Not genuine GNU parts.  Say, Stallman to the rescue. What
   do those cool GNU people use? Don't tell me they don't use at(1)?

Dunno about rms, nor do I know if I'm cool.  But I just use sleep;
usually something like

nohup sh -c "(sleep 100h; move-my-toes)" &

if I need to run something at some specific time; which isn't to often
anyway...

Happy hacking.


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Re: Installing sarge with basedebs.tar

2004-12-08 Thread cga2001


> > ... could not find the basedbs.tar file.
> 
> There's no such animal for sarge.
> 
> > I also noticed that the section "Installing
> > Debian GNU/linux from a UNIX/linux System" in the "testing" Installation
> > Guide does not exist.
> 
> Sure it does. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apcs04.html
> 

Thank you very much. Actually, and though I missed it reading the manual
online - it makes a lot more sense to have this in an appendix. 

What I liked about basedebs.tar is that I could roughly tell how long it
would take to download..   
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Re: Debian's at(1) is so bad, what does GNU use?

2004-12-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Constructive me says: Debian's at(1) is so bad, one can't even do

It is not only bad. It has a fame of being sort of a security bomb
(currently the fuse is believed to be unlit, but we never know if there
isn't a hidden one lit in there somewhere).

Wether GNU's is any better, I have no idea.

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  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Debian's at(1) is so bad, what does GNU use?

2004-12-08 Thread Dan Jacobson
Constructive me says: Debian's at(1) is so bad, one can't even do
$ at next year
parse error. Last token seen: year
Garbled time
$ at now + 12 months #Sigh. Must use instead.

No wonder. Not genuine GNU parts.  Say, Stallman to the rescue. What
do those cool GNU people use? Don't tell me they don't use at(1)?


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Re: cron jobs + (some?) output

2004-12-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Carl Johnson wrote:
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Hi Debian!
I found out something that was of interest:
I run mplayer from a script in the early morning as a cron job.
It start a script that forks and runs execve mplayer to record KUSC
for 3 hours.
Then 3 hours later I start another cron job that kills the former.
My problem (small one) was that since there is no shell, where is the
output?
Gues what: it gets sent to root! I found out /var/mail/mail was
getting huge (by running mondoarchive who tried to slice it).
In mail I find the output of the mplayer run. It is huge, filled with
his inane % buffer filled numbers. But at the very end is the answer
of why he dies.

That brings up the question: why are you receiving mail as root?  You
should have all root and administrative mail forwarded to some real
user.  If you read mail as user, then any virus or worm has access to
the entire system, as opposed to just the user's files.  On my system
(with exim) I have the /etc/aliases file to redirect all root and
administrative mail to my user mailbox.  I'm not sure, but I thought
that was one of the installation questions when I first installed
debian.
That's a good point. I never used mail until a few months ago, when 
WordPress and reportbug needed to use it. Exim is configured for no 
local mail but smarthost.

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Re: /etc/hosts ignored

2004-12-08 Thread Justin Pogrob
did you find a solution to you hosts file problem.  My host file seems
to have no effect on my xp system. any ideas?

Thanks,
Justin


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Re: cron jobs + (some?) output

2004-12-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 07:11 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Maurits van Rees wrote:
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 03:17:29PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi Debian!
I found out something that was of interest:

You run mplayer from a cron job. You kill mplayer from a cron job. A
mail with details gets mailed to root. Okay. Interesting. Was there a
question I missed?
Did you know that output of a no shell background job is mailed to you? 
I didn't. That's why I posted it. Should all posts be questions?

No.  But reading the cron manpage would have been prudent.
"When executing commands, any output is mailed to the owner of 
the crontab"

Damn, he got me again... Prudent is the word.
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Re: Learning GTK+ proramming under Debian

2004-12-08 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 16:42 -0600, Michael Madden wrote:
> What resource(s) would you recommend to someone who's new to GUI programming
> and would like to learn GTK+ development under Debian Woody/Sarge?  I've
> messed around with Motif and Xlib in the past on HP-UX and Solaris, but GTK+ 
> or Qt seem more acceptable under Linux.  Maybe there's a recommended book or 
> online resource to learning GTK+?

This is a recently released book about GTK+/Gnome software development.
http://nostarch.com/gnome.htm

This is a good overview of programming with GTK and Glade with examples
in C, C++, python and perl
http://www.gnome.org/~newren/tutorials/developing-with-gnome/

For just getting started, I would suggest glade + pygtk. The concepts
are very easily transferred to C.

Good luck,

Mark


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RE: Sarge ttyS0 (COM1) Software Issues

2004-12-08 Thread Croy, Nathan

> From: Pete [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 1:26 PM
> 
> I'm having some issues with ttyS0 (COM1) on my mail server. I'm trying
> to get it to work with NUT, but I cannot communicate through 
> the serial
> port.

Assuming the port works (I usually test with a modem), APC UPS's need a
special cable.  There are instructions on NUT's and apcupsd's website
(iirc).  The smart UPS's also might need a special command sent to them
before they will talk to you.  Other UPS's may or may not be similar.


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Re: verification after cd burn

2004-12-08 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 05:47:53PM -0500, Kudret Güler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I use nautilus-cd-burner to backup some important stuff(binary as
> well) on CD-Roms. How can I verify that the files on the cd and the
> files on the hard drive are exactly the same.
> 
> I use diff on directories with -r switch. Is it totally safe? What
> about md5sum?

I have used both and they seem good to me.

The following is part of a backup script I use:

echo "Copying var/cache/apt ..."
cp -r /var/cache/apt backupcd
cd backupcd
for i in * */* */*/*; do
if test -f $i; then
md5sum $i >> apt.md5
fi
done
cd -

This copies the contents of /var/cache/apt to a directory, and
calculates md5sums for all files including two levels of
subdirectories. The selection of files could probably be done with
`find', but this works for me.

Now you can make an iso file of that dir and burn it. Then mount the
burned cd, go to the cdrom dir and check the md5 sums with `md5sum -c
apt.md5'.

There is probably a theorethical chance not equal to zero that a cd
burn fails and you don't notice it in the md5 check. If you're
paranoid burn a second cd.

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Re: IP masquerading

2004-12-08 Thread Claude Brisson
Maybe you only need to enable IP forwarding :

ip_forward=yes

in the file /etc/network/options

Claude

On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 23:43, Sergio Basurto Juarez wrote:
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if someone could help please! 
> > 
> > I've upgraded to sarge, and built a new kernel with
> > lots of the networking 
> > options built in. 
> > 
> > I've tried to set up IP masquerading so I can use my
> > Debian PC as a router 
> > to a [dialup] ISP.  The Debian machine has a serial
> > modem and an ethernet 
> > card.  The ethernet connects OK to the other
> > computers [Macs and Windows] - 
> > you can ping either way and get responses. 
> > 
> > Once connected to the ISP, the Debian machine can
> > ping the IP address of its 
> > modem and get a response, and canload web pages. 
> > But other machines get 
> > nothing when I try. 
> > 
> > dmesg on the Debian machine only lists: 
> > 
> > 192.168.0.0, although the address of eth0 is
> > 192.168.0.5
> > the IP address of the modem ppp0
> > and 0.0.0.0 with the modem IP under "gateway". 
> > 
> > Any idea what could be wrong? 
> > 
> Try to setup your default gw to the address of the ppp
> connection
> 
> #route add default gw ppp_address
> 
> also see how is you maskerade with
> #iptables -L -t nat
> 
> if is not active you shoul do like this
> 
> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethx -j SNAT --to
> ppp_address
> 
> ethx is your external interface
> Hope this help!!!
> 
> 
> =
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> 
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> shoulders of giants. (Isaac Newton)
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Re: cannot display with res 1024x768

2004-12-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
jack kinnon wrote:
Hi,
 
No one got any solution to my problem? I think this mail-list is dying. 
The number of pages per month has been in decline for the past months. 
Fewer people are posting, and fewer still are getting any solution to 
the problem posed.
 
Any opinions to the contrary ?
 
Yes. This is the trackrecord of this news group, by year with 12 months. 
Right from the google's mouth:

2000340430  445 1195   	 294   	 276   	 2981   4178 
 2712   	 1355   813   	 832   	
2001 	1113 	1847 	1990 	2001 	1731 	3478 	6283 	4323 	1046 	1287 	1168 
1116 	
2002 	1486 	907 	1131 	1024 	1012 	1344 	1559 	1092 	2548 	2336 
2471 	4600 	
2003 	6706 	6248 	6404 	5810 	5815 	4940 	4608 	5777 	5147 	3642 	3273 
6077 	
2004 	5543 	5199 	5090 	4486 	4028 	4533 	4603 	4704 	3826 	3469 	3880 	965

So statistically, I have not really analyzed this data, but are you sure 
of your prognosis? It looks like last month is the highest november 
ever. I don't think it's dying at all. STAT101? Is it dying? Of course 
we are at the mercy of Google, not a nice place to be ;-)

H.  

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Rthoreau

> Rick Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: wrote

> Which version of K3b are you using? The other day, I installed the 
> version from Sid (K3b 0.11.17). It found everything, including 
> dvd+rw-format with no problem.

The version I tested this with is with Sarge, K3b 0.11.12 Using KDE 
3.2.3 which is supposed to be the stable version. If .x.x.17 is more 
stable then maybe they need to upload it into testing, aka Sarge.

I only use three KDE programs, Konqueror, Kmail, now K3b. My window 
manager is xfce4. I like Konqueror for its file properities, its nice 
to see a man page in html, I use Kmail as its one of the best all in 
one mail apps. I just hate all the bloat, that kde and gnome have, I 
really like small window managers. Who knows maybe I will give that 
new nautilus-cd-burner a shot they say its drag n drop.

Description: CD Burning front-end for Nautilus
Lets you burn CDs and DVDs easily with GNOME, by drag-and-dropping 
files in the GNOME file manager.

Depends: dbus-1 (>= 0.22), libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 
1.7.2), libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.8.0), 
libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.5.4), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libeel2-2 (>= 
2.8.2), libesd0 (>= 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.29-1), 
libgail-common (>= 1.6.6), libgail17 (>= 1.6.6), libgconf2-4 (>= 
2.8.1), libgcrypt11, libglade2-0 (>= 1:2.3.6), libglib2.0-0 (>= 
2.4.7), libgnome-keyring0 (>= 0.4.0), libgnome2-0 (>= 2.8.0), 
libgnomecanvas2-0 (>= 2.6.0), libgnomeui-0 (>= 2.8.0), libgnomevfs2-0 
(>= 2.8.0), libgnutls11 (>= 1.0.16), libgpg-error0 (>= 1.0), 
libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.4), libhal0 (>= 0.2.93), libice6 | xlibs (>> 
4.1.0), libjpeg62, libnautilus-burn0 (>= 2.8.3), libnautilus2-2 (>= 
2.7.1), liborbit2 (>= 1:2.10.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.6.0), libpopt0 
(>= 1.7), libsm6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libtasn1-2 (>= 0.2.8), libx11-6 
| xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxml2 (>= 2.6.11), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), 
mkisofs, cdrecord, nautilus

Dang thats a lot of depends, maybe I will ponder that one for a while.

Rthoreau


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Re: Upgrading from another debian machine

2004-12-08 Thread Richard Hector
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:35:24PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have woody on one machine and would like to upgrade to sarge. 
> 
> I have another machine [laptop, PCMCIA modem] that I upgraded from woody to 
> sarge.  I did not delete the .deb files. 
> 
> Can I us the deb files on the laptop to upgrade the distribution on the 
> other machine?  I reckon the software list is probably longer on the laptop 
> [ie. there probably won't be anything installed on the woody machine that 
> isn't on the laptop]. 
> 
> I'm assuming I could use ftp and move all the files then do it one at a 
> time.  But could I amend sources.list and use "apt-get dist-upgrade"? 

If you copy all the deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives on the sarge
box into the same location on the woody box before you upgrade, I
believe it will just find them when you upgrade. No need to change your
sources.list. Anything newer than what you've already got will be
downloaded as usual.

Richard


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Re: Kmix: mixer cannot be found

2004-12-08 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 09:23 am, you wrote:
> >In your KDE control panel:sound, you are informed that KDE monopolizes
> >your sound system to make its noises, and you can set the release time.
> >I think that, when you punch up kmix, there is a desktop noise, and
> >kmix has to wait 15 seconds to load.  It times out.  If you set the
> >release time to one second, it will succeed after the one second.  It
> >did for me, so that's my story and I'm sticking to it unless someone
> >has a better one.  :-) daveA
>
> Thank you for your explanation in detail.
> You mention set the "release time" in kde control center. I am using
> kde3.3, and find through the sound option section, But i really can't
> find where to set the "release time".
>
> Sorry to bother you again.

Control Center -> Sound and Multimedia -> Sound System -> General
-> Auto Suspend

Make it one second, not 15.  daveA


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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 03:28:25PM -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
> I appreciate your taking the time to test some of it out and teach me
> a few things.

My pleasure. Of course you use all advice from this mailing list at
your own risk. ;-)

> If using the apt commands won't screw up my system I'd definitly give
> them a try, but I'm still leary of it due to my inexperience with
> debian and what I read when I first installed it.

man apt-cache:

  DESCRIPTION

  apt-cache performs a variety of operations on APT's package
  cache. apt-cache does not manipulate the state of the system but does
  provide operations to search and generate interesting output from the
  package metadata.

So you should be safe. You get things like this:

$ apt-cache search dvd write
bootcd - run your system from cd without need for disks
bootcd-dvdplus - bootcd extension to use DVD+ media
bootcd-hppa - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on parisc/hppa
bootcd-i386 - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on i386.
bootcd-ia64 - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on ia64
k3b - A sophisticated KDE cd burning application

Only k3b is interesting here. `apt-cache show k3b' gives some info on
k3b, though you already know what it is. Vary the search terms to your
liking.

`apt-cache search dvd' gives among others:
dvd+rw-tools - DVD+-RW/R tools
dvdauthor - create DVD-Video file system
dvdbackup - Tool to rip DVD's from the command line

These may all be interesting. At least you should probably use a tool
from dvd+rw-tools instead of cdrecord. But my dvd knowledge is
limited.

> From what you've said, it appears my dd of the iso worked.  It was a
> bit over 700 mb in size.  But, when I tried to use K3b to copy the
> disk, it said the disk was too large (over 6 or 7 gb), and my
> recordable disks were too small (4.something gb).  This makes me think
> dd really didn't work, that the iso wasn't complete?  That would
> explain why when I burned a dvd from the iso tha tit wouldn't play.

Are you sure the size of the file isn't 7000 mb? Just checking the
obvious. ;-) Mistakes are easy to make. Type `ls -sh ' to be sure. If it really is 7 GB then a recordable of 4.x GB
will not quite work.

> You say the cause of this is not having enough room on the partition. 
> Perhaps I'm not understanding how partitions in linux work?  When I
> installed Debian I had it put everything in a single partition (/), it
> said this was for newbies (I did it because it sounded easier hehe). 
> Wouldn't that mean that the different directories (/home, /usr, /etc,
> etc) could get as big as they want, until the (/) partition hits
> 250gb?

Correct.

> Or, even though everything is technically in one partition, is
> there some kind of virtual limit placed on the directories?  The place
> I had dd save the iso was my home directory.

If you really just have one partition of 250 GB then you should have
plenty of free space. Try `df -h' to make sure. On my system:

$ df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb2 2,4G  121M  2,3G   6% /
tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hdb1 9,1M  5,6M  3,1M  65% /boot
/dev/hdb5 2,8G  897M  2,0G  32% /var
/dev/hdb6 2,8G  2,2G  707M  76% /usr
/dev/hdb7  93M  4,1M   84M   5% /tmp
/dev/hdb8 1,1G  592M  497M  55% /home
/dev/hdc2  19G   14G  5,7G  70% /music
/dev/hdc3  48G   40G  8,1G  84% /backup

Your output is probably very different, which is fine.

If it is something like the following, without a mention of something
mounted on /home and the amount mentioned under `Avail' is let's say
more than 10G then free space isn't the problem.

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 250G  ...G  ...G  ..% /


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Re: wi-fi - choice of hardware

2004-12-08 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 10:44:11AM +, Chris Lale wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 00:23, Richard Lyons wrote:
[...]
> > 
> >   3com Office Connect ADSL wireless 11g firewall router
> > 3CRWE754G72-A-UK
> > 
> > Belkin 54g wireless DSL/Cable gateway router
> > F5D7230UK4
> > 
> > D-link DSL-904 - which includes a DSL-G604T and another item
> > 
> > Netgear 54Mbps wireless ADSL firewall router
> > DG834G-UK
> > 
> > Netgear WGR614UK (but I think this lacks the ADSL modem)
> > 
> > USRobotics 
> > USR019106
> > 

Well thanks to all for your advice.  I decided to run with the Netgear
box -- the price differentials were not great.  Now I just have to await
delivery.

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verification after cd burn

2004-12-08 Thread Kudret Güler
Hi,

I use nautilus-cd-burner to backup some important stuff(binary as
well) on CD-Roms. How can I verify that the files on the cd and the
files on the hard drive are exactly the same.

I use diff on directories with -r switch. Is it totally safe? What about md5sum?


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Re: new to debian -- a few questions

2004-12-08 Thread gl34
 
> It depends, and this question demands another.   What did you install,  
> Knoppix or Debian? 
 
ARRGH! I'm lost in a novel by Kafka! 


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Re: IP masquerading

2004-12-08 Thread Sergio Basurto Juarez

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I wonder if someone could help please! 
> 
> I've upgraded to sarge, and built a new kernel with
> lots of the networking 
> options built in. 
> 
> I've tried to set up IP masquerading so I can use my
> Debian PC as a router 
> to a [dialup] ISP.  The Debian machine has a serial
> modem and an ethernet 
> card.  The ethernet connects OK to the other
> computers [Macs and Windows] - 
> you can ping either way and get responses. 
> 
> Once connected to the ISP, the Debian machine can
> ping the IP address of its 
> modem and get a response, and canload web pages. 
> But other machines get 
> nothing when I try. 
> 
> dmesg on the Debian machine only lists: 
> 
> 192.168.0.0, although the address of eth0 is
> 192.168.0.5
> the IP address of the modem ppp0
> and 0.0.0.0 with the modem IP under "gateway". 
> 
> Any idea what could be wrong? 
> 
Try to setup your default gw to the address of the ppp
connection

#route add default gw ppp_address

also see how is you maskerade with
#iptables -L -t nat

if is not active you shoul do like this

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethx -j SNAT --to
ppp_address

ethx is your external interface
Hope this help!!!


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Re: web mail interface

2004-12-08 Thread Grant
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 18:54, Jacob S wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:29:47 -0800 (PST)
> "Ron Farrer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, December 8, 2004 4:29, Robert Vangel said:
> > > Gregory Seidman wrote:
> > >> I use squirrelmail on top of courier-imap, but I haven't tried it
> > >with> particularly large mailboxes. I have no trouble sending email
> > >through> it,
> > >> however.
> > >
> > > I use squirrelmail on top of courier-imap as well (sometimes..
> > > thunderbird right now), and I have folders larger than 3000 emails,
> > > and I have no problems.
> > 
> > I'd suggest that the original poster has a configuration or IMAP
> > server issue. I use squirrelmail with uw-imapd without any problems on
> > a multiuser server. I have one folder with just over 2000 emails and
> > it handles it just fine.
> 
> I've seen this problem before, but I don't think it's a bug. We had a
> user with several mailboxes with more than a couple thousand e-mails per
> folder. We're also running squirrelmail on top of courier-imap.
> 
> The current development version of squirrelmail has a new feature for
> the purpose of correcting this. Current (in Sarge) versions of
> squirrelmail look at the headers for every e-mail in the folder. The new
> version will only look at the headers for each e-mail that will be
> displayed on the current page. 
> 
> HTH,
> Jacob
> 

Hey just thought i would say my bit :)

I have courier-imap running here on a freebsd boxen... its got a frw
mail accounts of around 18,000 mails in at the mo. squirrel wont even
log me into the account over about 2,000 it seemed to give up on me,
the server IS configured correctly.

I use evolution and thunderbird for desktop clients 
and for webmail the only client i have found that dont crap its self at
the large sized box is IlohaMail which loads the account perfect and
fast :-) 

so maybe give that a try :)

just me bit :P

Bye!
Grant.


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Learning GTK+ proramming under Debian

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Madden
What resource(s) would you recommend to someone who's new to GUI programming
and would like to learn GTK+ development under Debian Woody/Sarge?  I've
messed around with Motif and Xlib in the past on HP-UX and Solaris, but GTK+ 
or Qt seem more acceptable under Linux.  Maybe there's a recommended book or 
online resource to learning GTK+?

Thanks in advance,

Mike


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Re: wi-fi - choice of hardware

2004-12-08 Thread Conrad Newton
>From Eugen Leitl on Wednesday, 2004-12-08 at 09:26:41 +0100:
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 04:33:36PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> 
> > The Netgear is indeed the one you want.  I'll just about gauraunteed to 
> > be higher quality than Linksys for a couple dozen dollars cheaper.
> 
> Linksys WRT54GS and Sveasoft firmware + fwbuilder. Don't diss Linksys: their
> firmware is pure crap, but the hardware (radios) is excellent (you'll need
> better aerials than default ones though).

I just got one of these, but have not set it up yet.
Which aerial do you recommend?

Conrad


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Re: new to debian -- a few questions

2004-12-08 Thread Steve Block
Chris Lale wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 15:44, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 07:13:50AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
  > 
  > Last I checked, v2.8 is not in Sarge, yet.  Besides, I run Sid,
  > so don't care that much about Sarge.
  > 
I think about 4 days back it made it into sarge. I have it on my system.

$ apt-cache policy gnome-session
gnome-session:
 Installed: 2.8.1-3
 Candidate: 2.8.1-3
 Version Table:
2.8.1-4 0
95 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages
*** 2.8.1-3 0
   900 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages
   100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

I don't think so.
$ apt-cache policy gnome-session
gnome-session:
  Installed: 2.6.2-6
  Candidate: 2.6.2-6
  Version Table:
 *** 2.6.2-6 0
500 ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org sarge/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Chris.
Chris, have you run apt-get update recently? I have two machines running 
Sarge, both updated within the last 24 hours, both reporting gnome 
2.8.1-3 as the latest installable gnome version.

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Re: Operating system does not support locale ???

2004-12-08 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Thomas H. George (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> When I start oopadmin it first writes "Operating system does not
> support locale" to the terminal and then starts.
> 
> My operating system is kernel-2.4.27 compiled from tha latest
> kernel-source-2.4.27 release.  I paged through make menuconfig again
> and can't see anything regarding locale.

This is not a kernel option. Try running "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and
make sure the ones you use are selected and generated.

best regards
 Andreas Janssen

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Upgrading from another debian machine

2004-12-08 Thread joebosak
I have woody on one machine and would like to upgrade to sarge. 

I have another machine [laptop, PCMCIA modem] that I upgraded from woody to 
sarge.  I did not delete the .deb files. 

Can I us the deb files on the laptop to upgrade the distribution on the 
other machine?  I reckon the software list is probably longer on the laptop 
[ie. there probably won't be anything installed on the woody machine that 
isn't on the laptop]. 

I'm assuming I could use ftp and move all the files then do it one at a 
time.  But could I amend sources.list and use "apt-get dist-upgrade"? 

Grateful for any advice!
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Re: new to debian -- a few questions

2004-12-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Please use reply-to-mailing-list, not reply, when making an on-topic 
response to a list message.

On Wednesday 08 December 2004 1:31 pm, you wrote:
> 
> > That doesn't negate the fact that Knoppix isn't Debian.
>  
> ok, but when the OS ignores changes to inittab and XF86Config is that 
> knoppix or debian? 

It depends, and this question demands another.   What did you install, 
Knoppix or Debian?

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Re: Installing sarge with basedebs.tar

2004-12-08 Thread Joey Hess
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> understand is the soon-to-be official "sarge" release..) and I could not
> find the basedbs.tar file.

There's no such animal for sarge.

> I also noticed that the section "Installing
> Debian GNU/linux from a UNIX/linux System" in the "testing" Installation
> Guide does not exist.

Sure it does. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apcs04.html

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Re: IP masquerading

2004-12-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 1:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Once connected to the ISP, the Debian machine can ping the IP address 
> of its modem and get a response, and canload web pages.  But other 
> machines get nothing when I try.   

Did you install the ipmasq package as well?

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Re: new to debian -- a few questions

2004-12-08 Thread gl34
 
> That doesn't negate the fact that Knoppix isn't Debian.  It's based on  
 
ok, but when the OS ignores changes to inittab and XF86Config is that knoppix 
or debian? 


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Re: cannot display with res 1024x768

2004-12-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 06:59:06AM -0800, jack kinnon wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> No one got any solution to my problem? 
>  
Can you please point me to when you first stated your problem. I can't
readily find it in the mailing list archives.  Otherwise, a very brief
restatement and I might have a crack at helping.

Andy


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IP masquerading

2004-12-08 Thread joebosak
I wonder if someone could help please! 

I've upgraded to sarge, and built a new kernel with lots of the networking 
options built in. 

I've tried to set up IP masquerading so I can use my Debian PC as a router 
to a [dialup] ISP.  The Debian machine has a serial modem and an ethernet 
card.  The ethernet connects OK to the other computers [Macs and Windows] - 
you can ping either way and get responses. 

Once connected to the ISP, the Debian machine can ping the IP address of its 
modem and get a response, and canload web pages.  But other machines get 
nothing when I try. 

dmesg on the Debian machine only lists: 

192.168.0.0, although the address of eth0 is 192.168.0.5
the IP address of the modem ppp0
and 0.0.0.0 with the modem IP under "gateway". 

Any idea what could be wrong? 

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Re: Cloning a workstation

2004-12-08 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
Thank you for all the input. Certainly more than one way to do it, as 
usual... For the single case a simple scp/rsync + grub install seems 
adequate. However partimage looks like something worth getting familiar 
with --- so I'll try that.

Sarunas
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Re: how can I put an acpi laptop to sleep?

2004-12-08 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _John Covici_, on 08/12/04 15:56,typed:
Hi.  I have an IBM thinkpad and I installed Debian on it and got a
daemon called sleepd -- however it wants a command to actually put the
machine to sleep. Its default was apm -s which of course never worked
because the machine is an acpi machine.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Maybe you want to have a look at this:
http://softwaresuspend.berlios.de/
->HS
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Re: Cloning a workstation

2004-12-08 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hello Sarunas,

Sarunas Burdulis wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I need to clone a workstation (which has some custom configuration and
> scripts added to otherwise basic Sarge/KDE) into another set of
> absolutely identical hardware (Intel Pentium 4, IDE HD). Just one clone,
> not a massive install. What tools would you use? Easiest/quickest?
> Machines are on an Ethernet, have CD/DVD and floppy drives.

A very low-level way to do it is using netcat. boot both systems from cd
(knoppix or similiar) and let them have access to each other over the net
(a cross-cable and manual chosen 192.168.0.x IP's will do). Both systems
neet netcat (executable name nc).

Now run 
  nc -l -p 12345 | gunzip -c > /dev/hda
on the system to be installed to and on the master system run
  cat /dev/hda | gzip -0 -c | nc CLIENT-IP 12345

12345 is any unused port number. This will copy the content of the master
system's harddisk bytewise onto the new systems harddisk. I suggest using a
cross-cable and connect both computers directly for additional speed. 

I've copied systems this way using only tomsrtbt (although today I'd prefer
Knoppix :) ).

Yours,
Karsten


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how can I put an acpi laptop to sleep?

2004-12-08 Thread John Covici
Hi.  I have an IBM thinkpad and I installed Debian on it and got a
daemon called sleepd -- however it wants a command to actually put the
machine to sleep. Its default was apm -s which of course never worked
because the machine is an acpi machine.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

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Re: new to debian -- a few questions

2004-12-08 Thread Chris Lale
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 15:44, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 07:13:50AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> 
>> Last I checked, v2.8 is not in Sarge, yet.  Besides, I run Sid,
>> so don't care that much about Sarge.
>> 
> I think about 4 days back it made it into sarge. I have it on my system.
> 
> $ apt-cache policy gnome-session
> gnome-session:
>   Installed: 2.8.1-3
>   Candidate: 2.8.1-3
>   Version Table:
>  2.8.1-4 0
>  95 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages
>  *** 2.8.1-3 0
> 900 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 

I don't think so.

$ apt-cache policy gnome-session
gnome-session:
  Installed: 2.6.2-6
  Candidate: 2.6.2-6
  Version Table:
 *** 2.6.2-6 0
500 ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org sarge/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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Mod4 vs. Super_L on Windows Key

2004-12-08 Thread Alex Malinovich
I'm having an issue with my Windows key. I'm trying to set up my
keyboard shortcuts in Gnome using the Keyboard Shortcuts tool. I already
have Windows+D set to show desktop. In the shortcut tool this shows up
as Mod4+D.

However, when I try to do another mapping (such as Windows+L for lock
screen) the Windows key is reported as Super_L which is treated as a
regular key instead of a modifier and therefore can't be combined with
another key into a single keypress. Any suggestions?

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RE: Cloning a workstation

2004-12-08 Thread Chris Lale
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 17:42, Croy, Nathan wrote:
> > From: Sarunas Burdulis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:31 AM
> > 
> > I need to clone a workstation (which has some custom 
> > configuration and 
> > scripts added to otherwise basic Sarge/KDE) into another set of 
> > absolutely identical hardware (Intel Pentium 4, IDE HD). Just 
> > one clone, 
> > not a massive install. What tools would you use? Easiest/quickest? 
> > Machines are on an Ethernet, have CD/DVD and floppy drives.
> 
> There have been many great suggestions already.

I successfully cloned a hard disc on a dual-boot win98/NT/Debian box
using:

Debian Packages
---
util-linux (provides sfdisk)
gcc make (needed to complile pcopy)

Source package
--
pcopy - faster than dd - (from ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/unix/pcopy)

Brief method

Compile and install pcopy
Clean up existing systems -scandisk on MS Windows systems, fsck on
unmounted Linux partitions.
You might want to go to single-user /sbin/telinit 1
Stop network /etc/init.d/networking stop
Copy partition table from old hda to new hdb 
sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk /dev/hdb
copy the partitions eg: pcopy -d /dev/hda3 /dev/hdb3

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Ben Bettin
I appreciate your taking the time to test some of it out and teach me
a few things.


On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:59:04 +0100, Maurits van Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> apt-cache search 
> might help here.


In regards to apt, I've always stuck with aptitude.  I've been using
linux for 3 years now, but only for a few months with Debian (I think
i'll stick with Debian for many years, I love it).  When I installed
Debian it used aptitude, so I continued to use that program after
installation was over and I got into my system.  I read somewhere that
if you install things without using aptitude, aptitude will mess up
because it keeps track of what you install/uninstall.  So I've been
somewhat afraid of using any "apt" commands.  In aptitude I hit "/"
and typed in a regexp to search for.  After reading 'man apt-cache'
I'm assuing that the search functionality with '/' in aptitude is the
same thing?

If using the apt commands won't screw up my system I'd definitly give
them a try, but I'm still leary of it due to my inexperience with
debian and what I read when I first installed it.

 
> Do you have enough space on the partition? If you have about 700 MB
> free and you want to copy a dvd that is probably not enough and would
> indeed result in a write error. `df -h' helps here.


I'm pretty certain my partition has enough space.  I went ahead and
had debian install everything to a single partition (/), that way I
wouldn't have to worry about it.  My hard-drive that has the '/'
partition is 250gb.


> You may need to use some other infile than /dev/cdrom because it is a
> dvd, but I'm not sure of that. I can't read dvds on my system.


I'm pretty sure /dev/cdrom is ok.  I did a "ls -l /dev/cdrom" and
found that /dev/cdrom is a symlink to /dev/cdrom0, which is my dvd
device.  /dev/cdrom1 is my dvd-writer.  I'm not sure why, but linux
doesn't appear to differentiate the two.  It sticks the master dvd/cd
at /dev/cdrom0, and the slave at /dev/cdrom1.


> I loaded a cd. I have enough space on /opt, so I tried:
>
> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/opt/cdrom.iso
>
> After a while the following appeared:
>
> dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
> 1273096+0 records in
> 1273096+0 records out
> 651825152 bytes transferred in 397,550926 seconds (1639602 bytes/sec)
> 
> I think dd just reads until it encounters an error like this. Then
> that shouldn't be a problem.


That's the same input/output error I got.  I think I said read/write
error in my post, but that was just the effects of a bad memory :)

 
> I mounted the resulting iso file on a loop device as root and that
> worked fine. There were md5sums of everything on the cd and they
> checked out fine as well. So at least for cds dd seems okay.


I should try this and see if the mounted image from the iso looks the
same as the original dvd disk.

>From what you've said, it appears my dd of the iso worked.  It was a
bit over 700 mb in size.  But, when I tried to use K3b to copy the
disk, it said the disk was too large (over 6 or 7 gb), and my
recordable disks were too small (4.something gb).  This makes me think
dd really didn't work, that the iso wasn't complete?  That would
explain why when I burned a dvd from the iso tha tit wouldn't play.

You say the cause of this is not having enough room on the partition. 
Perhaps I'm not understanding how partitions in linux work?  When I
installed Debian I had it put everything in a single partition (/), it
said this was for newbies (I did it because it sounded easier hehe). 
Wouldn't that mean that the different directories (/home, /usr, /etc,
etc) could get as big as they want, until the (/) partition hits
250gb?  Or, even though everything is technically in one partition, is
there some kind of virtual limit placed on the directories?  The place
I had dd save the iso was my home directory.

Thanks again for all your help.

Ben


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Re: Making my mouse wheel work on the fly [SOLVED]

2004-12-08 Thread Icebiker
Hi
This was an old item wherein I had problems with my mouse wheel not working 
when I switched between a Linux and an XP box. I recently solved this 
problem by buying a new KVM. It's a 4 port Aten CS-14 which I got 
cheap-cheap (~US$70 new) on e-bay.

Now my keyboard never goes funny on either XP or Linux and the mouse wheel 
always works on Linux. It's been extremely well behaved for the last 4 
weeks.

I don't know how to generalize this, except perhaps that newer KVMs might be 
more Linux friendly (my DLink was 3+ years old).

/icebiker
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Subject: Re: Making my mouse wheel work on the fly


Douglas G. Phillips wrote:
Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

I wonder if it's KVM dependent . . .
If, after it does this, does WinXP drop the mouse wheel as well, or does
it work as expected when you switch back?
Another option that I would try is using GPM to handle the mouse (with
the repeater flag set) and tell X to talk to GPM -- that might help -- 
or at least you might be able to just bounce GPM and get the mouse talking 
correctly.


The mouse wheel is well behaved, but I have noticed that sometimes the 
keyboard gets confused (shift gets stuck, etc.). I had to bounce 
OpenOffice spreadsheet on XP because it started ignoring the keyboard all 
together. I'm beginning to think that this is a rather shaky proposition 
at best. Today was a day of heavy switching between the two systems, and I 
guess that really highlighted the problem.

I looked at some KVM vendors' offerings and the support databases, but 
none of them really address this issue. I can't even get a sense of 
whether more expensive units handle this better. I guess I'll just have to 
be careful.

I'll research gpm, I wasn't aware of it.
thanks - icebiker
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cannot change gamma on 855GM

2004-12-08 Thread Yves Grenier
Hello,
I installed debian sarge (i.e. testing) on an A3N15 Asus laptop, the 
graphic chipset is 855GM. The display looks as if the gamma was set to 
3.0 or more. Using KDE configuration tool produces no effect, except 
writing into XF86config-4 a line "Gamma 1.0" in Section "Monitor". I 
also tried xgamma, and it produces no effect on the display.

Any idea of a solution?
My configuration:
XFree86: 4.3.0.1 (driver i810)
kernel: 2.6.9
Yves Grenier
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Re: X.org <-----> Xfree

2004-12-08 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 12:51, Roelof Wobben wrote:

> Is X.org better than Xfree ??

Yes.

> Does someone has X.org getting on work with debian Sarge ??

If you're asking if X.org will be packaged for Sarge: yes, although it might 
take a while.
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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:16:54 -0600
Rthoreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> > Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> 
> > 2.6.8 have known problems with writing cd's, so I would "assume" it
> > would aslo have problems writing dvd's.
> > 
> > Either upgrade to 2.6.9 or downgrade to 2.6.7, and try to burn the >
> > dvd's. 
> 
> Just installed K3b as a test, came up with the same bug, K3b does not 
> detect dvd+rw-tools, then used dpkg --purge to purge dvd+rw-tools and 
> reinstalled it, same problem.  Seems like K3b is buggy, will wait  to 
> file bug report, in case first poster wants to. Kernel version 2.6.7.
> :uname -a Linux Raiz-mpx 2.6.7-mpx #1 SMP Tue Aug 10 09:58:16 CDT 2004

> i686 GNU/Linux 
> kernel compiled from debian source.
> 
> From K3b, Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
> K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ whereis dvd+rw-format
> dvd+rw-format: /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format
> 
> Looks like everything else can find it except K3b. 
> 
> As stated else where, I do not thing the problem is burning the files,

> but it is erasing the disc if its a dvd+-rw with K3b, I seem to 
> remember having similar problems with K3b some time ago might of been 
> an early version maybe a year ago. I think I know what it was, it 
> totally screwed up my /etc/fstab file, once I fixed it by hand, and 
> did not let K3b setup use it again, still could not detect my cdrw 
> right, even though I used the other options in K3b.
> 
> Rthoreau

When I was running Libranet, debian derivative, it was noted that
sometimes the permissions on some of the executables were not being set
correctly.

I don't have a dvd player/burner, so I'm not sure what they should be,
though someone else may be able to offer that info.

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Re: getting Aculaser C4100 working...

2004-12-08 Thread Bruno Boettcher
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 07:09:40PM +0100, Andrea Vettorello wrote:
> Don't know if this can help:
> 
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-AcuLaser_C4100
went there allready, unfortunately those drivers try to use the device
acl4100 with gs, and gs doesn't know that thing... 

at least the gs shipped with debian doesn't...

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compaq evo - weird hd problem

2004-12-08 Thread stephen parkinson
was playing with drqueue, nfs and exec as one of default permissions
well suddenly, almost sounds of singing/melody from compaq evo, thought 
it was my mp3 player
initially

evo hung
on reboot and also after a power off/on, only the usb hard drive i had 
plugged in, is shown in the bios

the evo started out as a libranet 2.8.1 and upgraded to sarge upto about 
a day ago

my conclusion at the moment is the hard drive got scambled, somewhat 
violently

my concern is recovery of the data on it
i plan to try knoppix 3.4 on it tomorrow
then in anticipation of knoppix not seeing the drive,  i plan to do an 
install to another hard drive, then drop the cd out and put orig hd in 
its place and see if its visible

yes i do happen to have a backup of essential user data, just a question 
of what i had install deb wise

anyone had a similar experience
stephen

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 02:05:31PM -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
> Searching through aptitude for "cd" and "dvd" brings up quite a few
> packages.  Some appear to do the same thing, it's rather overwhelming.

apt-cache search 
might help here. 

>  I tried the "dd" command someone mentioned earlier, I used it to try
> to copy one of my DVD movies (The Clearing).  I ran "dd if=/dev/cdrom
> of=the_clearing.iso".  It ran for awhile then ended with some kind of
> read/write error.  I think the iso was just over 700 mb in size. 
> Seems like it should've been longer than that.  I deleted the iso and
> tried again, same thing happened.  

Do you have enough space on the partition? If you have about 700 MB
free and you want to copy a dvd that is probably not enough and would
indeed result in a write error. `df -h' helps here.

You may need to use some other infile than /dev/cdrom because it is a
dvd, but I'm not sure of that. I can't read dvds on my system.

I loaded a cd. I have enough space on /opt, so I tried:

dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/opt/cdrom.iso

After a while the following appeared:

dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
1273096+0 records in
1273096+0 records out
651825152 bytes transferred in 397,550926 seconds (1639602 bytes/sec)

I think dd just reads until it encounters an error like this. Then
that shouldn't be a problem.

I mounted the resulting iso file on a loop device as root and that
worked fine. There were md5sums of everything on the cd and they
checked out fine as well. So at least for cds dd seems okay.

> I'm not sure how dd works, but for
> copying floppies I see people put in a size argument or something.  I
> figured maybe since the command didn't specify one, dd got to the end
> of the cd and then threw and error because of it?  

I don't think so. dd will stop copying when it reaches the end of the
input stream. The count argument is only needed when your infile
doesn't have an end, e.g. with /dev/zero.


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Re: X.org <-----> Xfree

2004-12-08 Thread messmate
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:51:47 +0100
"Roelof Wobben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I heard a lot about X.org en thatin some distro's X.org wil replace
>Xfree.
>
>Is X.org better than Xfree ??
>Does someone has X.org getting on work with debian Sarge ??
>
>Roelof 
> 
>
Not yet, maybe never.
mess-mate


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Re: M$ USB-key

2004-12-08 Thread Yevgen Reznichenko
David Purton wrote:
make sure you have CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD also.
Is enabled :(
Yevgen
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Sarge ttyS0 (COM1) Software Issues

2004-12-08 Thread Pete
Hi all,

I'm having some issues with ttyS0 (COM1) on my mail server. I'm trying
to get it to work with NUT, but I cannot communicate through the serial
port.

I managed to locate and download a DOS 6.22 floppy and an app called
Modem Dr, which I used (with my old serial modem) to verify my serial
port physically works outside of Debian.

I am currently running a custom kernel which is pretty standard except
for MPPE and lm-sensors patches. Kernel 2.4.27.

I have tried using Minicom to send the "Q1" command to the UPS to get
its status, but it doesn't respond at all, so I really doubt this is NUT
causing my problems.

I have also tried installing the stock 2.4.27 i686 kernel and purging
and reinstalling setserial to no avail.

ttyS0 state:

starserver:/etc/nut# cat /proc/tty/driver/serial
serinfo:1.0 driver:5.05c revision:2001-07-08
0: uart:16550A port:3F8 irq:4 baud:2400 tx:20 rx:0 RTS|DTR|DSR

If there's any further info I need to provide, then just let me know and
I'll get what I can.

Pete


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Re: Fw:Mewbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-08 Thread Kent West
Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 

Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
   

Well. finally achieved partial success.  Modem, ppp,wvdial and gnome GUI now working without error messages except Mozilla mail client still gets mail from the wrong account.
 

Somewhere in the Moz menus will be an "Account Options" or similar item
(on Thunderbird, it's "Tools" / "Account Settings"). Delete the wrong
account; create the correct account.
   

Gee, I thought I made it clear that I have only one account set up and have deleted it several times and restarted.  I set up [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]  User ID is lchata and I think Mozilla is getting confused. Getting correct email set up with outlook express
worked the first time when I first changed addresses.
 

Is Outlook Express responsible for the horrible quoting style I'm seeing 
in this email (which I've cleaned up in this reply)? If so, it's hardly 
a program to be praising, even if it is easy to set up.

Perhaps you did make it clear that you only have one account set up and 
have deleted it & restarted several times in an earlier posting, but 
this list generates way too much traffic for most people to remember 
details not specified in the immediate context.

At any rate, what you're describing is not being understood by me. Maybe 
you should start a new thread with an appropriate subject line to deal 
with just this one issue.

Dselect didn't run.  The reinstall failed
everyltime I used my backup CD' so I turned to the originals to reinstall
and it still didn't complete dselect as on the original installation.
 

I'm beginning to think you have bad/damaged CDs.
   

Ditto, I think the same. So I used the unused original disks and still had errors.  The originals from Linux CD-r's could be corrupt.
 

Could be.

In order to inform your system of newer stuff, like newer
kernels, you'll have to point your system to a different source for
packages.
   

Ok, I've changed sources.list from stable to testing and commented out the CD entries and assume I will see Sarge kernel images to download when I run `apt-get dist-upgrade.  Right?  Can I just upgrade the kernel to Sarge to start instead of updating/upgrading the entire Debian distribution or
will that cause problems?  I only have dialup modem service.
 

Just changing "stable" to "testing" won't do the job, as your 
sources.list file is currently (presumably) only looking toward your 
on-hand set of CDs. You'll have to add appropriate lines for grabbing 
files off the network. "man sources.list" is a good reference, but to 
get you started, here's what my sources.list file looks like (I only 
pull from the net; no CDs, etc):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk:> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main
# deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

PS: It's a good idea to prune excess material that's no longer needed in your reply. It's 
also a good idea to not "top post", but rather to place your response directly 
below whatever you're responding to. It's my understanding that Outlook Express 
encourages top-posting by putting your cursor at the top of a reply email; very bad, 
nasty habit.
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Re: Using AutoCAD 2005 on linux:

2004-12-08 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting John Foster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> There is virtually NO free software that comes close to AutoCad in
> features as far as I am aware.

Possibly of interest:

Back in 2002, before the Linux Gazette staff left SSC's hosting and
moved to linuxgazette.NET, a guy named Richard Brown submitted this tip
to the Answer Gang column:

Saw your "not yet". I am a mechanical engineer. I run AutoCAD daily
on Linux using VMware. (Running SuSE 8.0 or 7.3, AMD 1.4 with 768
Mg) Works beautifully. Frequently, I had 10 or 15 sessions of
AutoCAD running at the same time. Never a problem. Nice also when I
want to reload or update, as from 7.3 to 8.0; simply copy the back
the Windows 2000 file. To me, it is the preferable way to run
AutoCAD.

-richard

I maintain a list of Linux options, highlighting the free-software /
open source ones, at "CAD[D]" on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Apps/ .


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X.org <-----> Xfree

2004-12-08 Thread Roelof Wobben



Hello,
 
I heard a lot about X.org en thatin some distro's 
X.org wil replace Xfree.
 
Is X.org better than Xfree ??
Does someone has X.org getting on work 
with debian Sarge ??
 
Roelof 
 
 
 


Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Ben Bettin
My kernel shouldn't have a problem, I'm running 2.6.7.

I'm at work at the moment.  I'll submit a bug report for this when I
get back home later this evening.

I'm not sure what version of K3b I'm using.  Under the suggestions of
the users on this list I started up aptitude and installed whatever
the latest version of it was.  I'm using Testing (Sarge), standard
debian sources...nothing fancy.  I'm not sure how up-to-date
debian.org's package list is what what's actually on their sources,
but according to the site it's version 0.11.12-1 (linkage:
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=k3b&searchon=names&subword=1&version=testing&release=all)

I appreciate everyone's assistance with helping me figure this problem
out, the community never ceases to amaze me :)  Until I can get k3b
working correctly, I figure it's a good time to learn how to create
and copy cd's and dvd's from the console...then I wouldn't have to
deal with the gui's hehe.  I notice a few people have posted some tips
on this, any more you guys and gals can think of would be greatly
appreciated.

Searching through aptitude for "cd" and "dvd" brings up quite a few
packages.  Some appear to do the same thing, it's rather overwhelming.
 I tried the "dd" command someone mentioned earlier, I used it to try
to copy one of my DVD movies (The Clearing).  I ran "dd if=/dev/cdrom
of=the_clearing.iso".  It ran for awhile then ended with some kind of
read/write error.  I think the iso was just over 700 mb in size. 
Seems like it should've been longer than that.  I deleted the iso and
tried again, same thing happened.  I'm not sure how dd works, but for
copying floppies I see people put in a size argument or something.  I
figured maybe since the command didn't specify one, dd got to the end
of the cd and then threw and error because of it?  I went ahead and
tried to burn the iso using k3b.  It burned ok, but the Dvd wouldn't
play in my tv or fiancee's computer.  The tv says there was some kind
of error, the computer (running windows media player) said that the
dvd wasn't formated to play in this region.  I can post again later
with the exact error message if you like, I can't recall what it was
right now.


On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:49:56 -0500, Rick Friedman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rthoreau wrote:
> 
> 
> > Just installed K3b as a test, came up with the same bug, K3b does not
> > detect dvd+rw-tools, then used dpkg --purge to purge dvd+rw-tools and
> > reinstalled it, same problem.  Seems like K3b is buggy, will wait  to
> > file bug report, in case first poster wants to. Kernel version 2.6.7.
> > :uname -a Linux Raiz-mpx 2.6.7-mpx #1 SMP Tue Aug 10 09:58:16 CDT 2004
> > i686 GNU/Linux
> > kernel compiled from debian source.
> >
> > From K3b, Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
> > K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ whereis dvd+rw-format
> > dvd+rw-format: /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format
> >
> > Looks like everything else can find it except K3b.
> >
> > As stated else where, I do not thing the problem is burning the files,
> > but it is erasing the disc if its a dvd+-rw with K3b, I seem to
> > remember having similar problems with K3b some time ago might of been
> > an early version maybe a year ago. I think I know what it was, it
> > totally screwed up my /etc/fstab file, once I fixed it by hand, and
> > did not let K3b setup use it again, still could not detect my cdrw
> > right, even though I used the other options in K3b.
> 
> Which version of K3b are you using? The other day, I installed the
> version from Sid (K3b 0.11.17). It found everything, including
> dvd+rw-format with no problem.
> 
> Rick
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Re: ALSA or OSS?

2004-12-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
Christian Convey wrote:
Hendrik Boom wrote:
I've seen a lot of discussion about how to get alsa to work.  The main 
advice seems to be to disable OSS, which seems to sneak modules of its 
own into the kernel.  This leaves me wondering -- which sound system 
*should* I use on my Debain sarge system?  Is on a traditional part of 
Linux, and the other an recent upstart?  Or is one intended to replace 
the other, and not quite there yet?  I'd rather install the one that 
is more reliable, or more linuxy, if that's a relevant concept.

-- hendrik

ALSA seems to be the direction everyone's heading, from what I've observed.
ALSA has some nice features that make it a suitable substrate for all
the Linux audio stuff.
It seems like most applications are written to use at least one of the
major sound APIs:
- ALSA
- aRts (KDE apps)
- ESD (Gnome apps, I think)
- OSS
- Jack
The nice thing is that you can have ALSA be the software that directly
controls your sound hardware, and still support all of those
applications that use the above-listed APIs. That's because ALSA offers
various compatibility wrappers / drivers for those other APIs.
AFAIK, ALSA is the only sound system list above that let programs
written for any of the other four sound systems to work ok.
On the other hand, ALSA still seems fairly complex to me to set up.
I.e., it's a heck of a lot more complicated than making this stuff work
right on Windows (Now I'll don my asbestos pajamas ;)
Yes.  It does seem to have problems in the Windows-competition 
department.  But having it fight with the OSS kernel modules doesn't 
help any.

It also seems to me that by far, ALSA has the widest sound card/chip
support. When a new sound chip comes out, the only sound system I notice
getting a driver for it is ALSA (and Windows :).
I suggest going with ALSA. At least then, you can be pretty confident
that any problems you come across with program compatability can be
worked out.
Hope this
It does.  Thanks.
-- hendrik
 helps,
Christian

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Re: web mail interface

2004-12-08 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:29:47 -0800 (PST)
"Ron Farrer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, December 8, 2004 4:29, Robert Vangel said:
> > Gregory Seidman wrote:
> >> I use squirrelmail on top of courier-imap, but I haven't tried it
> >with> particularly large mailboxes. I have no trouble sending email
> >through> it,
> >> however.
> >
> > I use squirrelmail on top of courier-imap as well (sometimes..
> > thunderbird right now), and I have folders larger than 3000 emails,
> > and I have no problems.
> 
> I'd suggest that the original poster has a configuration or IMAP
> server issue. I use squirrelmail with uw-imapd without any problems on
> a multiuser server. I have one folder with just over 2000 emails and
> it handles it just fine.

I've seen this problem before, but I don't think it's a bug. We had a
user with several mailboxes with more than a couple thousand e-mails per
folder. We're also running squirrelmail on top of courier-imap.

The current development version of squirrelmail has a new feature for
the purpose of correcting this. Current (in Sarge) versions of
squirrelmail look at the headers for every e-mail in the folder. The new
version will only look at the headers for each e-mail that will be
displayed on the current page. 

HTH,
Jacob


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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Rick Friedman
Rthoreau wrote:
Just installed K3b as a test, came up with the same bug, K3b does not 
detect dvd+rw-tools, then used dpkg --purge to purge dvd+rw-tools and 
reinstalled it, same problem.  Seems like K3b is buggy, will wait  to 
file bug report, in case first poster wants to. Kernel version 2.6.7.
:uname -a Linux Raiz-mpx 2.6.7-mpx #1 SMP Tue Aug 10 09:58:16 CDT 2004 
i686 GNU/Linux 
kernel compiled from debian source.

From K3b, Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ whereis dvd+rw-format
dvd+rw-format: /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format
Looks like everything else can find it except K3b. 

As stated else where, I do not thing the problem is burning the files, 
but it is erasing the disc if its a dvd+-rw with K3b, I seem to 
remember having similar problems with K3b some time ago might of been 
an early version maybe a year ago. I think I know what it was, it 
totally screwed up my /etc/fstab file, once I fixed it by hand, and 
did not let K3b setup use it again, still could not detect my cdrw 
right, even though I used the other options in K3b.
Which version of K3b are you using? The other day, I installed the 
version from Sid (K3b 0.11.17). It found everything, including 
dvd+rw-format with no problem.

Rick
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Re: ALSA or OSS?

2004-12-08 Thread Christian Convey
Hendrik Boom wrote:
I've seen a lot of discussion about how to get alsa to work.  The main 
advice seems to be to disable OSS, which seems to sneak modules of its 
own into the kernel.  This leaves me wondering -- which sound system 
*should* I use on my Debain sarge system?  Is on a traditional part of 
Linux, and the other an recent upstart?  Or is one intended to replace 
the other, and not quite there yet?  I'd rather install the one that is 
more reliable, or more linuxy, if that's a relevant concept.

-- hendrik

ALSA seems to be the direction everyone's heading, from what I've observed.
ALSA has some nice features that make it a suitable substrate for all
the Linux audio stuff.
It seems like most applications are written to use at least one of the
major sound APIs:
- ALSA
- aRts (KDE apps)
- ESD (Gnome apps, I think)
- OSS
- Jack
The nice thing is that you can have ALSA be the software that directly
controls your sound hardware, and still support all of those
applications that use the above-listed APIs. That's because ALSA offers
various compatibility wrappers / drivers for those other APIs.
AFAIK, ALSA is the only sound system list above that let programs
written for any of the other four sound systems to work ok.
On the other hand, ALSA still seems fairly complex to me to set up.
I.e., it's a heck of a lot more complicated than making this stuff work
right on Windows (Now I'll don my asbestos pajamas ;)
It also seems to me that by far, ALSA has the widest sound card/chip
support. When a new sound chip comes out, the only sound system I notice
getting a driver for it is ALSA (and Windows :).
I suggest going with ALSA. At least then, you can be pretty confident
that any problems you come across with program compatability can be
worked out.
Hope this helps,
Christian
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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Rthoreau


> Rodney D. Myers wrote:

> 2.6.8 have known problems with writing cd's, so I would "assume" it
> would aslo have problems writing dvd's.
> 
> Either upgrade to 2.6.9 or downgrade to 2.6.7, and try to burn the >
> dvd's. 

Just installed K3b as a test, came up with the same bug, K3b does not 
detect dvd+rw-tools, then used dpkg --purge to purge dvd+rw-tools and 
reinstalled it, same problem.  Seems like K3b is buggy, will wait  to 
file bug report, in case first poster wants to. Kernel version 2.6.7.
:uname -a Linux Raiz-mpx 2.6.7-mpx #1 SMP Tue Aug 10 09:58:16 CDT 2004 
i686 GNU/Linux 
kernel compiled from debian source.

From K3b, Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ whereis dvd+rw-format
dvd+rw-format: /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format

Looks like everything else can find it except K3b. 

As stated else where, I do not thing the problem is burning the files, 
but it is erasing the disc if its a dvd+-rw with K3b, I seem to 
remember having similar problems with K3b some time ago might of been 
an early version maybe a year ago. I think I know what it was, it 
totally screwed up my /etc/fstab file, once I fixed it by hand, and 
did not let K3b setup use it again, still could not detect my cdrw 
right, even though I used the other options in K3b.

Rthoreau

 



Re: web mail interface

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Farrer
On Wed, December 8, 2004 4:29, Robert Vangel said:
> Gregory Seidman wrote:
>> I use squirrelmail on top of courier-imap, but I haven't tried it with
>> particularly large mailboxes. I have no trouble sending email through
>> it,
>> however.
>
> I use squirrelmail on top of courier-imap as well (sometimes..
> thunderbird right now), and I have folders larger than 3000 emails, and
> I have no problems.

I'd suggest that the original poster has a configuration or IMAP server
issue. I use squirrelmail with uw-imapd without any problems on a
multiuser server. I have one folder with just over 2000 emails and it
handles it just fine.

Regards,
Ron
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Re: ALSA or OSS?

2004-12-08 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:59:19 -0500
Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've seen a lot of discussion about how to get alsa to work.  The main
> 
> advice seems to be to disable OSS, which seems to sneak modules of its
> 
> own into the kernel.  This leaves me wondering -- which sound system 
> *should* I use on my Debain sarge system?  Is on a traditional part of
> 
> Linux, and the other an recent upstart?  Or is one intended to replace
> 
> the other, and not quite there yet?  I'd rather install the one that
> is more reliable, or more linuxy, if that's a relevant concept.

As I understand it, OSS drivers were the original Linux sound drivers.
Then the author decided to go commercial with them, only releasing
occasional drivers that could be used for gpl purposes. (See
http://www.opensound.com )

This and possibly a disagreement with the oss coding method prompted the
Alsa group to start their own sound drivers. They are by no means a
recent upstart, but they were not included in the kernel.org kernel
source until the 2.6 series. Before this you had to download/apt-get
them separately, compile, etc. 

If you can't tell a difference in which drivers support your card
better, I would go with Alsa. But that's just my preference. Maybe
someone else can enlighten us and mention whether support for oss
drivers will start dropping now that alsa is in the kernel.

HTH,
Jacob


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