Re: Will Sid go nuts?
On Jun 02 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > That is slightly inaccurate. There are huge changes on the way (X.org > 6.8.2, GNOME 2.10, and others). Yes, the main problems would be the partial migration of huge systems like Gnome. OTOH, the dependencies on basic packages may be a solution to prevent the packages to hit testing (and filing bug reports with appropriate severity if they are not yet ready for "public consumption"). This has been done in the past and I would expect that things would not change so soon (see the many dummy bugs reported like "this package is not suitable for testing"). -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
On Jun 02 2005, Colin wrote: > So, a couple of days after all these packages are submitted, they will > eventually find their way into testing. *IF* no bug with high severity is found/reported during the time between the upload of the package and the period necessary to hit testing. Hope this clears the situation a bit, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tun failing: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
Geoff Reidy wrote: >> anubis:/home/jon# modprobe tun >> anubis:/home/jon# ifconfig tun0 >> tun0: error fetching interface information: Device not found >> anubis:/home/jon# uname -a >> Linux anubis 2.6.11-1-686 #1 Fri May 20 07:34:54 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux >> > Thanks Jon, this makes it look less likely a problem caused by random > fingers and more like a kernel problem. I guess the tun interface is not > used much. I'm using tun0 at this very moment. :-) kernel.org-2.6.11.10 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: excluding files w/ tar (retraction)
One way to test exclude patterns is with tar -c --exclude=pattern includedirectorys | tar -t - Unfortunately, I didn't run such a test before responding to the original poster, and now that I have I would like to retract my previous posts on the subject. Sorry! The examples below show that the stripping of the leading / by tar is not the issue as I thought it was. $ rm -fr /tmp/{a,b} $ mkdir -p /tmp/a/b /tmp/b/tmp/a/c $ tar -c --exclude=nothing /tmp/{a,b} | tar -t -f - tar: Removing leading `/' from member names tmp/a/ tmp/a/b/ tmp/b/ tmp/b/tmp/ tmp/b/tmp/a/ tmp/b/tmp/a/c/ #everything is listed, as expected $ tar -c --exclude=/tmp/a /tmp/{a,b} | tar -t -f - tar: Removing leading `/' from member names tmp/b/ tmp/b/tmp/ tmp/b/tmp/a/ tmp/b/tmp/a/c/ # the desired result $ tar -c --exclude=tmp/a /tmp/{a,b} | tar -t -f - tar: Removing leading `/' from member names tmp/b/ tmp/b/tmp/ # not the desired result Winston -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: excluding files w/ tar
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 09:48:09AM +0800, Robert Vangel wrote: > `./*' wouldnt include (or exclude) `./.*' files where `.' would. Good catch. Thanks. Winston -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
I'm a Debian noob and don't understand... Won't , Sarge become Stable, Sid become Testing, whatever ("etch"??) become unstable? Also, this thread is in regard to Sid.. What happens to Sid if not become testing? JR A more detailed explanation of what happens when a release is made is available at http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.html In particular Q 13, 15 might be of interest to you. raju -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: excluding files w/ tar
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Winston Smith wrote: > My suggestion above assumes you use tar cv -X /tmp/excludes -p > --atime-preserve ./* -- | ... > ^^^ instead of tar cv -X > /tmp/excludes -p --atime-preserve * -- | ... its supposed to be tar cf menas you want a file tar zcf tar-file.tgz tar -X means you want to exclude "it" from the tar-file.tgz if you wantto exclude a bunch of um vi /tmp/excludes.txt -X /tmp -X /proc -X /BACKUP -X /var/log -- new example tar zcvf /BACKUP/tar-file.tgz -X `cat /tmp/excludes.txt` # # quickie test to ignore host* files and /etc/gconf # tar zcvf /tmp/t.tgz /etc --exclude /etc/hosts* \ --exclude /etc/gconf --exclude /etc/selinux -- i prefer --exclude instead of -X for excluding directories in addition to files c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
On Thursday 02 June 2005 10:54 pm, James Ronald wrote: > I'm a Debian noob and don't understand... > Won't , Sarge become Stable, Sid become Testing, whatever ("etch"??) become > unstable? > > Also, this thread is in regard to Sid.. What happens to Sid if not become > testing? > > JR Sid is always the name for unstable. The next testing will be Etch, so once Sarge is stable, we have: Stable = Sarge Testing = Etch Unstable = Sid If you read up on the characters in "Toy Story," it makes sense, since Sid is the kid next store who breaks toys. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
Patrick Wiseman wrote: On 6/2/05, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You'll want to change "testing" to "sarge" if you want a stable system. If you leave it at testing, the system will go "haywire" a couple of weeks from now when etch becomes the new testing. So this answer to a FAQ is false? --- 5.6 What does the testing directory contain? Packages are installed into the `testing' directory after they have undergone some degree of testing in unstable. They must be in sync on all architectures where they have been built and mustn't have dependencies that make them uninstallable; they also have to have fewer release-critical bugs than the versions currently in testing [unstable?]. This way, we hope that `testing' is always close to being a release candidate. --- That doesn't sound as if it's about to go haywire. OK. Let me explain this better. Right now, sarge is in "frozen" which means only critical bugs are allowed into it. In a couple of days (hopefully), sarge with become stable and etch will become the new testing. The system will once again allow packages to come into testing (which is now "etch") from unstable after 2 to 10 days of no critical bug submissions. The developers will be allowed to submit packages into unstable that they were not allowed to during the freeze. This is usually a *lot* of packages. So, a couple of days after all these packages are submitted, they will eventually find their way into testing. If you can put up with that sudden wave of packages a couple of days after sarge is released (and a steady stream of updates after that), then keep on using "testing". If you just want security fixes, use "sarge". I'm a Debian noob and don't understand... Won't , Sarge become Stable, Sid become Testing, whatever ("etch"??) become unstable? Also, this thread is in regard to Sid.. What happens to Sid if not become testing? JR -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software Raid Partition'd?
Quoting Laurent CARON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hello, ... Is it best to just create 1 Raid 5 mounted on / or Create several Raid 5 arrays and split them into / /home /var /usr Note: Will use a Raid 0 mounted on /boot raid 0 on /boot ?? Whoops, meant to say Raid 1 on /boot. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Firefox no print issue
Sarge system running samba and cups. All computers in lab print to a printer attached to a Windoze 98 system. All print test pages print as expected. Gedit document. Go to File -> Print -> dialog box. Click "print" button: document prints as expected. The printer is listed as: QMS 1660. Web site page in Firefox. Go to File -> Print -> dialog box. Click "print" button: page is sent to printer, first page is a PS error, lots of blank pages follow. The printer is listed as: QMS 1660@:64. All apps I've tried print except Firefox (and any other similar browser). I didn't see anything about printers in the preferences. I'm probably missing something reasonably obvious. Any ideas? Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel log problem
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 08:50:27AM +0200, BAGI Akos wrote: > Kern.log extract: > > May 22 12:31:25 atilla kernel: Redirect from 212.92.23.1 on eth0 about > 212.92.23.13 ignored. > May 22 12:31:25 atilla kernel: Advised path = 212.92.23.238 -> > 84.21.19.1, tos 00 Looks like your kernel is just telling you about ICMP redirects, which it is choosing to ignore due to default security settings. Since they're being ignored, I wouldn't worry about it excessively; if you're curious, though, I'd investigate the original packet source and the recommended source-routed path for evildoers. -- Re-Interpreting Historic Miracles with SED #141: %s/water/wine/g -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 11:24:47PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > Package: defrag [..] Description: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem > defragmenter Wouldn't risk it on ext3. If it shouldn't be used on It will work fine on a cleanly-unmounted ext3 partition (e.g. with no peding log replays). Ext3 uses identical filesystem structures to ext2, which is both its blessing and its curse. :) -- Re-Interpreting Historic Miracles with SED #141: %s/water/wine/g -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On 6/2/05, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>You'll want to change "testing" to "sarge" if you want a stable system. If >>you leave it at testing, the system will go "haywire" a couple of weeks >>from now when etch becomes the new testing. > > So this answer to a FAQ is false? > > --- > 5.6 What does the testing directory contain? > > Packages are installed into the `testing' directory after they have > undergone some degree of testing in unstable. > > They must be in sync on all architectures where they have been built > and mustn't have dependencies that make them uninstallable; they also > have to have fewer release-critical bugs than the versions currently > in testing [unstable?]. This way, we hope that `testing' is always > close to being a release candidate. > --- > > That doesn't sound as if it's about to go haywire. OK. Let me explain this better. Right now, sarge is in "frozen" which means only critical bugs are allowed into it. In a couple of days (hopefully), sarge with become stable and etch will become the new testing. The system will once again allow packages to come into testing (which is now "etch") from unstable after 2 to 10 days of no critical bug submissions. The developers will be allowed to submit packages into unstable that they were not allowed to during the freeze. This is usually a *lot* of packages. So, a couple of days after all these packages are submitted, they will eventually find their way into testing. If you can put up with that sudden wave of packages a couple of days after sarge is released (and a steady stream of updates after that), then keep on using "testing". If you just want security fixes, use "sarge". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: excluding files w/ tar
Winston Smith wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:08:15AM -0400, Winston Smith wrote: would be, for example, "./tmp/", not "/tmp/". Try putting ./tmp/* instead of /tmp/* and so on in /tmp/excludes, or, if you My suggestion above assumes you use tar cv -X /tmp/excludes -p --atime-preserve ./* -- | ... ^^^ instead of tar cv -X /tmp/excludes -p --atime-preserve * -- | ... ^ ./* -> . would work too. `./*' wouldnt include (or exclude) `./.*' files where `.' would. Winston smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 07:16:32PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Colin writes: > > You'll want to change "testing" to "sarge" if you want a stable system. > > If you leave it at testing, the system will go "haywire" a couple of > > weeks from now when etch becomes the new testing. > > Nothing will go haywire. Packages will just begin to flow into Testing > again after the release. That is slightly inaccurate. There are huge changes on the way (X.org 6.8.2, GNOME 2.10, and others). To say that "nothing will go haywire" is being very optimistic. Things will likely break for a bit once the flow of packages starts. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpPFCzPogM4L.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
Colin writes: > You'll want to change "testing" to "sarge" if you want a stable system. > If you leave it at testing, the system will go "haywire" a couple of > weeks from now when etch becomes the new testing. Nothing will go haywire. Packages will just begin to flow into Testing again after the release. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: excluding files w/ tar
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:08:15AM -0400, Winston Smith wrote: > would be, for example, "./tmp/", not "/tmp/". > > Try putting ./tmp/* instead of /tmp/* and so on in /tmp/excludes, or, if you My suggestion above assumes you use tar cv -X /tmp/excludes -p --atime-preserve ./* -- | ... ^^^ instead of tar cv -X /tmp/excludes -p --atime-preserve * -- | ... ^ ./* -> . would work too. Winston -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ion2 + x2vnc + multiple workspaces = possible?
On 5/31/05, Stefhen Hovland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > I've never used x2vnc but I've done similar things with > > vncserver. That works fine. > > I dont want to connect to my windows desktop via a vnc "window", I > want to forward my existing X session, ie "localhost:0" to my windows > box when I move the mouse off of the side of the screen, this is what > x2vnc does. But I am having an issue with ion and it will not forward > my X traffic to my windows box when I start another workspace aka > virtual desktop. > > Stefhen > someone must have also encountered this problem! anyone?
Re: Woody to Sarge "stable"?
Rhomboid Goatcabin writes: > My sources.list files are using specifically "stable" and I'm wondering > what happens when the Sarge big, red, shiny, candy-like button gets > pressed. Do all my systems go and try to install Sarge? Yes. I suggest that you point them to Woody and then change them to Sarge and do 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' one at a time after Sarge settles for a few weeks. If the first few go well you might then consider doing the rest in bulk. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [linux-cifs-client] latest cifs.ko module for debian
> Did anyone build the latest cifs client (1.34) kernel module cifs.ko for > debian sarge or ubuntu? > If yes, I would appreciate if it can be made available somewhere, or > just sent to me by email. > > I have a 2.6.10 kernel. > A simple howto on building it would also be appreciated I built it for Debian Sarge, however I had to use 2.6.11 sources (from unstable). 2.6.10 gives errors. Howto: GET CIFS SOURCES: apt-get install debhelper modutils kernel-package libncurses5-dev download "http://pserver.samba.org/samba/ftp/cifs-cvs/cifs-1.34.tar.gz " to /root for example cd /root tar xvfz cifs-1.34.tar.gz GET KERNEL SOURCES: apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.11 cd /usr/src tar --bzip2 -xvf kernel-source-2.6.11.tar.bz2 REPLACE CIFS WITH 1.34: mv /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.11/fs/cifs /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.11/fs/cifs_old mkdir /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.11/fs/cifs cp -R /root/cifs-1.34/fs/cifs/* /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.11/fs/cifs CONFIG THE KERNEL: I used the config file from 2.6.8: cp /boot/config-2.6.8-2-386 /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.11/.config cd kernel-source-2.6.11 make menuconfig Include: File Systems --> Network File Systems --> CIFS support --> CIFS statistics MAKE THE KERNEL: make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image INSTALL THE KERNEL: dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.11_10.00.Custom_i386.deb --- Stefanos Karasavvidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did anyone build the latest cifs client (1.34) kernel module cifs.ko for > debian sarge or ubuntu? > If yes, I would appreciate if it can be made available somewhere, or > just sent to me by email. > > I have a 2.6.10 kernel. > A simple howto on building it would also be appreciated > > > Regards > -- > == > Stefanos Karasavvidis > Electronic & Computer Engineer, M.Eng. > e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Technical University of Crete, Campus > Information Systems Center > Address: Akrotiri, Chania, 73100 > Tel.: (+30) 28210 37352, 37355 (central), 37766 (ENV.ENG. buildings) > Fax: (+30) 28210 37571 > ___ > linux-cifs-client mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-cifs-client > __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
Patrick Wiseman wrote: > No - the original poster suggested that both testing and unstable were > problematic after the last stable release. So I was concerned that > the new 'testing' would be flaky for a while. I've found the current > testing, which I've had in my sources.list for a couple of years now, > mostly reliable, with the occasional glitch. I can continue to live > with that. In other words, cutting edge is OK, but bleeding edge is a > bit too much for me! > > Thanks for everyone's advice. I think I'll stick with testing for now. > You'll want to change "testing" to "sarge" if you want a stable system. If you leave it at testing, the system will go "haywire" a couple of weeks from now when etch becomes the new testing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Sarge - What happened to tasksel?
> > You can run 'tasksel' from the command line. If it is not there you > don't have a complete install. Make sure you have added the cd-r's you > want to use using 'apt-cdrom'. > Be advised that there are not as many options in Sarge's tasksel as there were in Woody's. Also, if you want only Gnome, do apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment instead. -- Regards, Dave signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: graphical ftp client that can copy/paste
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 04:55:32PM +, Pollywog wrote: > I have to work with an ftp site that does not also have ssh or telnet access > and I need to move files between directories. gftp apparently does not have > a feature to copy and paste files. I tried it with the file manager and it > also does not work (the "paste" menu is grayed out). The command line client > on my machine, the one that came with Debian, does not have the RNFR and RNTO > commands in its repertoir. > > Is there a way to do what I want to do without resorting to MS anything? > > thanks > Doesn't "rename" do this, or have I misunderstood the question? > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- David Jardine "Running Debian GNU/Linux and loving every minute of it." -L. von Sacher-M.(1835-1895) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: secure download/upgrade debian packages
> I believe this what you seek: Not precisely, but close enough to get the job done. This will verify only after the packages are installed. I was looking for something that would verify in-stream prior to actual package install during apt-get, possibly with a command line approve/disapprove switch. -- Regards, Dave signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
On 6/2/05, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > No - the original poster suggested that both testing and unstable were > > problematic after the last stable release. So I was concerned that > > the new 'testing' would be flaky for a while. I've found the current > > testing, which I've had in my sources.list for a couple of years now, > > mostly reliable, with the occasional glitch. I can continue to live > > with that. In other words, cutting edge is OK, but bleeding edge is a > > bit too much for me! > > > > Thanks for everyone's advice. I think I'll stick with testing for now. > > > > You'll want to change "testing" to "sarge" if you want a stable system. If > you leave it at testing, the system will go "haywire" a couple of weeks > from now when etch becomes the new testing. So this answer to a FAQ is false? --- 5.6 What does the testing directory contain? Packages are installed into the `testing' directory after they have undergone some degree of testing in unstable. They must be in sync on all architectures where they have been built and mustn't have dependencies that make them uninstallable; they also have to have fewer release-critical bugs than the versions currently in testing [unstable?]. This way, we hope that `testing' is always close to being a release candidate. --- That doesn't sound as if it's about to go haywire. Patrick
Re: Can't burn CDs at a reasonable speed (cdrecord, 2.6.11 kernel).
Hi Adam and Roberto, On 2005-06-02, Adam Funk wrote: > > $ mkisofs -r -J -o foo.iso foodir > $ cdrecord -v speed=16 dev=ATA:0,0,0 foo.iso > > If I specify a higher speed, cdrecord fails and I get a coaster. I would > appreciate any suggestions for improving this. I was just reading an lkml thread (flame fest) on this topic.[0] I have little experience with cdrecord on 2.6.* myself but have either of you tried burning a cd using cdrecord with speed=[greater than] 16 as root? regards, Tony [0] http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0505.3/0539.html Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog From: Joerg Schilling Date: Wed May 25 2005 - 17:49:28 EST [...] If you don't call cdrecord as root, you will not be able to lock in memory and to raise priority in order to prevent buffer underuns. In addition (with Linux-2.6.8.1 or newer) you will not be able to send some of the important SCSI commands mainly related to newer CD or DVD drives. As a result, cdrecord cannot write DVDs or ultra speed CD-RWs or cannot do other things > Thanks, > Adam > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody to Sarge "stable"?
Rhomboid Goatcabin wrote: I've got about 30 systems running woody right now and they automatically keep themselves up to date using cron-apt (I actually have it apply the updates). I've only been a Debian user for a little over a year but have been very impressed with the stability of the system and how well the updates to stable are truly stable and don't tend to break things. I've never been through a major version upgrade in a Debian release. I've done a few woody to sarge manual updates and had to do some hand-holding and fix a few things. My sources.list files are using specifically "stable" and I'm wondering what happens when the Sarge big, red, shiny, candy-like button gets pressed. Do all my systems go and try to install Sarge? I'm guessing probably "yes", but will we get a nice announcement with a fair warning period? If you want to stay on woody once the switch is made, change instances of 'stable' in sources.list to 'woody'. Add duplicate lines with 'sarge in them instead' and modify your cron-apt to use woody instead of stable. When the time comes, you can update packages at a slower rate by doing `apt-get -t sarge install package]'. I have found this works well for me (although I don't keep the systems automatically updated with cron-apt, I am generally working with the systems I maintain all the time to remember to do this when need be) and is an easy way to update only the things I want to and let certain services get updated at times of mimimal use to reduce the noticibility it something happens that shouldn't (or I didn't expect). smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Kdevelop3 and CVS
On Friday June 3 2005 00:46, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > I'm using kdevelop3 that comes with Debian Sarge. > I noticed that no CVS menu is available anywhere... > do I have to install further packages or configure something? Try the kdevelop3-plugins package. Also make sure to set the proper version control system in the project options. -- Got Backup? Jabber: Shadowdancer at jabber.fsinf.de pgpL3CaAQZTPI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Kdevelop3 and CVS
Hi I'm using kdevelop3 that comes with Debian Sarge. I noticed that no CVS menu is available anywhere... do I have to install further packages or configure something? kdevelop3 --version Qt: 3.3.4 KDE: 3.3.2 KDevelop: 3.2.0 I have both cervisia and kdesdk installed $ dpkg --list | grep cervisia ii cervisia 3.3.2-3 a graphical CVS front end for KDE $ dpkg --list | grep kdesdk ii kdesdk 3.3.2-3 KDE Software Development Kit ii kdesdk-kfile-p 3.3.2-3 KDE file dialog plugins for software develop ii kdesdk-misc 3.3.2-3 various goodies from the KDE Software Develo ii kdesdk-scripts 3.3.2-3 a set of useful development scripts for KDE thanks in advance Lorenzo -- +-+ | Lorenzo Bettini ICQ# lbetto, 16080134 | | PhD in Computer Science| | Dip. Sistemi e Informatica, Univ. di Firenze | | Florence - Italy(GNU/Linux User # 158233) | | Home Page: http://www.lorenzobettini.it| | http://music.dsi.unifi.it XKlaim language | | http://www.lorenzobettini.it/purpleCover Band | | http://www.gnu.org/software/src-highlite | | http://www.gnu.org/software/gengetopt | | http://www.lorenzobettini.it/software/gengen | | http://www.lorenzobettini.it/software/doublecpp| +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Proliant DL360 G3 memory issue
> First, don't top post. Deal with it. > Second: Look in /var/log/dmesg. On a 2.6.12-rc4, 4G kernel, 1G phys RAM, > I have some lines very near the top: > 127MB HIGHMEM available. > 896MB LOWMEM available. > > On another box, 2.4.23, 64G kernel, 6G phys: > 5248MB HIGHMEM available. > 896MB LOWMEM available. I ended up compiling a 2.4.31 kernel from source with the appropriate settings for the particular hardware as well as HIGHMEM and it now see's all the memory: #~> free total used free sharedbufferscached Mem: 3105300 2528362852464 0 8676 34916 -/+ buffers/cache: 2092442896056 Swap: 999592 0 999592 Thanks again for you help. -- -greg "hrmmm - a Beowulf cluster of Dreamcasts and PS2s..." -Slashdot.org post -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Woody to Sarge "stable"?
I've got about 30 systems running woody right now and they automatically keep themselves up to date using cron-apt (I actually have it apply the updates). I've only been a Debian user for a little over a year but have been very impressed with the stability of the system and how well the updates to stable are truly stable and don't tend to break things. I've never been through a major version upgrade in a Debian release. I've done a few woody to sarge manual updates and had to do some hand-holding and fix a few things. My sources.list files are using specifically "stable" and I'm wondering what happens when the Sarge big, red, shiny, candy-like button gets pressed. Do all my systems go and try to install Sarge? I'm guessing probably "yes", but will we get a nice announcement with a fair warning period? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NVidia drivers & kernel compilation: version magic?
Hey ho, From my very first steps with Debian, I was taught to compile kernel sources myself, rather than the proverbial Debian way, so that's what I've been doing ever since. After compilation, an "sh ./NVIDIA_binary_driver_package.run" has never failed on me, until recently. For some reason, when it's done building the kernel module, it fails to load it. Its error log (/var/log/nvidia-installer.log) then states this: nvidia: version magic '2.6.11.11-zukunft preempt PENTIUM4 4KSTACKS gcc-3.2' should be '2.6.11.11-zukunft preempt PENTIUM4 4KSTACKS gcc-3.3 I try my very best, but I just can't see the problem... /proc/version definitely shows the kernel was compiled with "gcc version 3.3.6", so why is my kernel showing version magic including "gcc-3.2"? Googling the error message merely points to faulty symlinks or sources that don't match the running kernel, but those can't be the problem. Since I've never done this any other way, I can't imagine I'm doing something wrong, but of course, there are lots of things I never had to wonder about anyway... Could someone perhaps enlighten me on what the problem could be? Cheers, Tom -- keys: http://tmp.verbreyt.be/files/ (abwaerts.asc & verbreyt.asc) - np: Les Joyaux de la Princesse - Tiefe Sehnsucht pgpwZavPmG7r3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: can ping but mozilla doesn't work
If I make /etc/resolv.conf point directly to the DNS, nothing works, on either kernel. I think the router is blocking direct DNS. I could probably change that but don't really want to mess with it as it seems to be working fine. If I get some time mayeb I will. -- Daniel McBrearty Electronics and Software Engineering http://danmcb.sdf-eu.org/eng/index.cgi
Re: graphical ftp client that can copy/paste
Pollywog wrote: > I have to work with an ftp site that does not also have ssh or telnet access > and I need to move files between directories. gftp apparently does not have > a feature to copy and paste files. I tried it with the file manager and it > also does not work (the "paste" menu is grayed out). The command line client > on my machine, the one that came with Debian, does not have the RNFR and RNTO > commands in its repertoir. > > Is there a way to do what I want to do without resorting to MS anything? The "Connect to Server" feature in GNOME (Nautilus actually) seems to handle copy and paste fine. (At lest using version 2.10 from experimental). -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: decyphering spam
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 17:06 -0400, Darryl Clarke wrote: > On 6/2/05, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > michael wrote: > > > how do i decypher what the following HTML/javascript attempts (original > > > 'write' was all one line)? > > > > Personally, I used Python's urllib.unquote and got the following: > > > > document.write('empty..'); > language="javascript">function dF(s){var > > s1=unescape(s.substr(0,s.length-1)); > > var > > t='';for(i=0;i> > > > dF('*8HXHWNUY*75QFSLZFLJ*8I*77of% > > > 7Bfxhwnuy*77*75XWH*8I*77ktyt3ox*77*8J*5I*5F44*75XFRUQJ*75XHWNUY*75*787*752*75HFQQNSL*75FS*75J%5DYJWSFQ*75OX*75KNQJ*5I*5F*8H4XHWNUY*8J*5I*5F5') > > > > Which is then fed the above segment to decode. Don't feel like digging > > into the above javascript to make a Python equivolant decoder for that > > section. Maybe someone else will jump in? :D > > > > That final segment decodes to this: > > SCRIPT LANGUAGE="javascript" SRC="foto.js"> // SAMPLE SCRIPT #2 - > CALLING AN EXTERNAL JS FILE > which, unless there was a base reference issued in the actual spam, > leads nowhere. :) > well i can 'wget' the foto.js from the site which is (if anybody is interested!) a bit too simple to decode but those up for the challenge could decypher the index.php url = "http://www.trafficpro.us/index.php";; qwe = ' di'+'spl'+'ay:n'+'one'+';}'; rty = '" FR'+'AMEB'+'ORD'+'ER="0" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=1'+'0% >'; uio = ''; asd = ' -- > ~ Darryl ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://smartssa.com / http://darrylclarke.com > -- Michael Bane Atmospheric Physics Group University of Manchester -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decyphering spam
On Thursday June 2 2005 22:18, michael wrote: > how do i decypher what the following HTML/javascript attempts (original > 'write' was all one line)? First, you shove it through that Perl script with the line intact (isn't downloading Videos from "secure" pages fun...): #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; foreach () { s/\%([0-9a-fA-F]{1,2})/print STDOUT chr(hex($1))/ge; } Afterwards, you search the resulting JavaScript fragment for what the dF function actually does. It decodes to this: document.write('empty..'); function dF(s){ var s1=unescape(s.substr(0,s.length-1)); var t= ''; for(i=0;i
Re: decyphering spam
On 6/2/05, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > michael wrote: > > how do i decypher what the following HTML/javascript attempts (original > > 'write' was all one line)? > > Personally, I used Python's urllib.unquote and got the following: > > document.write('empty..'); language="javascript">function dF(s){var s1=unescape(s.substr(0,s.length-1)); > var > t='';for(i=0;i> > dF('*8HXHWNUY*75QFSLZFLJ*8I*77of% > > 7Bfxhwnuy*77*75XWH*8I*77ktyt3ox*77*8J*5I*5F44*75XFRUQJ*75XHWNUY*75*787*752*75HFQQNSL*75FS*75J%5DYJWSFQ*75OX*75KNQJ*5I*5F*8H4XHWNUY*8J*5I*5F5') > > Which is then fed the above segment to decode. Don't feel like digging > into the above javascript to make a Python equivolant decoder for that > section. Maybe someone else will jump in? :D > That final segment decodes to this: SCRIPT LANGUAGE="javascript" SRC="foto.js"> // SAMPLE SCRIPT #2 - CALLING AN EXTERNAL JS FILE http://smartssa.com / http://darrylclarke.com
Re: lilo to grub conversion
Incoming from Graham Smith: > s. keeling wrote: > >Incoming from Graham Smith: > >> > >>kopt=ramdisk_size=16384 > > > >I don't use it but mine has a comment: > > > > # kopt_2_6_0=ramdisk_size=8192 root=/dev/hda9 ro acpi=yes > > Thanks for the help. You do actually have a non-default ramdisk size. Actually, no I don't. That is a comment, outside the BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST directives. My real/active kopt line is: # kopt=root=/dev/hda9 ro hdc=scsi vga=1 acpi=yes fwiw. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Please don't Cc: me. - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
I think I'll still stick with unstable to be up to date.
Debian & Squid & WCCPv2
Hallo all. I have Debian witch 2.6 kernel and Squid 2.5.9 I would like use squid like transparent proxy with wccpv2 in cisco infrastructure. Who have expirience with implementation this or, existing patch for WCCPv2 support for squid-2.5.9 and debian? Thanks. Juro. __REKLAMA___ PS: Jo a ještě jsem ti zapomněl říct, že na CESKADOMACNOST.cz mají nejlevnější elektrospotřebiče. http://im.impact.as/ceskadomacnost/
Re: /etc/modprobe.d/sound does't work
Hi, --- Shidai Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I try to install oss (opensound). Every time I > start the oss install > program, it complains about sound driver already > running which I removed > beforehand and 'lsmod' shows that the old driver > back again. Very annoying. > Any idea? oss is just a generic sound system (it won't load any drivers or anything for your sound card... that module is probably loaded already anyway, can you send us the output of lsmod? Cameron Matheson __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tripp-lite ups software
Anyone know how to install Tripp-Lite's pa12112_linux.bin UPS monitor software? It's Java, and says I don't have "a suitable" JVM (mine is Sun JDK-1.5), and to enter the Java home as an option. I've tried every permutation I can think of, and Tripp-Lite's tech support hasn't told me. Other Java programs run fine. -- Glenn English [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG ID: D0D7FF20 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: lilo to grub conversion
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Graham Smith: Alex Malinovich wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 15:36 +0100, Graham Smith wrote: I am running a testing machine that is currently using lilo for it's boot loader. I would like to switch this to grub but I am a little confused about how to go ahead and do this. There are some pretty easy to follow directions to be found in /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz Ok I have read the instructions but I am a little confused / concerned about the section on initrd images larger that 4MB (4194304 bytes). Almost all the stock initrd images are larger than 4MB (initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386 is 4317184 bytes and is the one I want to use) but the menu.lst files on my other machines (which all use grub already) don't have a ramdisk_size=16384 option anywhere. Where would I put this option anyway as the documentation is a little vague - I presume it should be after kopt eg: kopt=ramdisk_size=16384 I don't use it but mine has a comment: # kopt_2_6_0=ramdisk_size=8192 root=/dev/hda9 ro acpi=yes Thanks for the help. You do actually have a non-default ramdisk size. The default is 4MB you are using 8. The "comment" isn't really a comment as such. It's actually a bit of magic that is used by update-grub. To be on the safe side I stuck a ramdisk_size=16384 on my kopt. To the world in general: I'm am still interested to know whether the machine would have booted with out this option being added. If not then shouldn't update-grub probe the size of initrd images and check to make sure they are all smaller than 4MB, adding the required ramdisk_size option if they aren't? It seems to me like this would be a very simple extension as update-grub is doing it's magic on a currently running system it should be easy to find the size of the various files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems Mounting Digital Camera
> is it possible? i > mean, access my cam w/ gphoto and not mounting it? Yes, this is how my Canon Powershot S30 works, and many other cameras too I believe. I never mount my camera as a file system. Instead I just run digikam, which is a front end for libgphoto2, which "sees" my camera and knows how to manipulate its contents. Other cameras do get mounted as file systems, which seems more convenient since it allows you to manipulate their contents without the intermediary of gphoto2. But if your camera isn't one of those, there's nothing you can do about it. Of course there is the newer gphoto-fuse-fs option that I mentioned. I've never tried that, and it requires the fuse module. But it may work for you. > maybe some module > to be loaded by the kernel should fix it? FWIW, below are my notes about how I got gphoto2 to work. It seems that I needed usb support, hotplug, and Video4Linux. Good luck, Andrew. 2004-03: read /usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/README.Debian. The instructions below are somewhat dated. 2003-09: To set up gphoto2 I followed the instructions in the gphoto2 manual section 4.3, http://gphoto.sourceforge.net/doc/manual/permissions-usb.html. Also, the Video4Linux kernel module is required for USB cameras. First I set up USB. In the end all that was needed was to include USB support (especially "Preliminary USB file system support") in the kernel, and install hotplug. usbdevfs is then automatically mounted for me at boot time, presumably by hotplug, under /proc/bus/usb. To set up gphoto2, again I followed the instructions: mkdir /usr/lib/hotplug/libgphoto2 /usr/lib/libgphoto2-2/print-usb-usermap > \ /usr/lib/hotplug/libgphoto2/usb.usermap update-usb.usermap which includes the contents of /usr/lib/hotplug/libgphoto2/usb.usermap (camera descriptions) into /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap. Then I borrowed the sample script /usr/share/doc/gphoto2/linux-hotplug/usbcam.group and copied it to /etc/hotplug/usb/usbcam. All this script does is change the group ownership of a newly plugged-in camera to camera, and set the group rw permissions. I also created the "camera" group, which should include all console users. Finally I set update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/camera camera \ /usr/bin/digikam 100 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Proliant DL360 G3 memory issue
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:38:18AM -0500, Greg Gilmour wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 09:18:50AM -0600, Rob Sims wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 04:38:39PM -0500, Greg Gilmour wrote: > > > I currently have an HP Proliant DL360 G3 with two 2.8 GHz Xeon > > > processors, SmartArray 5i, and 1024 MB of memory installed currently. I > > > wanted to install more memory so I purchased and installed 2 GB more to > > > make a grand total of 3 GB of system memory (PC2100 DDR ECC) -- 2x512 MB > > > sticks and 2x1024 MB sticks. > > > > > Upon boot-up the BIOS detects all 3 GB, but once I boot into Linux it > > > only registers as 900264 KB. I've tried checking the BIOS on the server > > > > You need a kernel with high memory support. In the kernel configuration, > > it is: > > Processor type and features > > High Memory Support (4G) > Hello Rob, > I have tried a kernel rebuild with this option (a snipit of my config is > below): > > CONFIG_MPENTIUM4=y > CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y > CONFIG_MTRR=y > CONFIG_SMP=y > CONFIG_MTRR=y > CONFIG_SMP=y > > But, I am still getting the same results. ... > Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. First, don't top post. Second: Look in /var/log/dmesg. On a 2.6.12-rc4, 4G kernel, 1G phys RAM, I have some lines very near the top: 127MB HIGHMEM available. 896MB LOWMEM available. On another box, 2.4.23, 64G kernel, 6G phys: 5248MB HIGHMEM available. 896MB LOWMEM available. -- Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decyphering spam
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 21:18:47 +0100 michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > how do i decypher what the following HTML/javascript attempts (original > 'write' was all one line)? > > > > > > > > document.write(unescape('%3C%53%43%52%49%50% > 54%20%4C%41%4E%47%55%41%47%45%3D%22%6A%61%76%61%73%63%72%69%70%74%22%3E% > 64%6F%63%75%6D%65%6E%74%2E%77%72%69%74%65%28%27%65%6D%70%74%79%2E%2E%27% > 29%3B%3C%2F%53%43%52%49%50%54%3E%3C%73%63%72%69%70%74%20%6C%61%6E%67%75% > 61%67%65%3D%22%6A%61%76%61%73%63%72%69%70%74%22%3E%66%75%6E%63%74%69%6F% > 6E%20%64%46%28%73%29%7B%76%61%72%20%73%31%3D%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70%65%28% > 73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%30%2C%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%29%29%3B% > 20%76%61%72%20%74%3D%27%27%3B%66%6F%72%28%69%3D%30%3B%69%3C%73%31%2E%6C% > 65%6E%67%74%68%3B%69%2B%2B%29%74%2B%3D%53%74%72%69%6E%67%2E%66%72%6F%6D% > 43%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%28%73%31%2E%63%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%41%74%28%69% > 29%2D%73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%2C%31%29% > 29%3B%64%6F%63%75%6D%65%6E%74%2E%77%72%69%74%65%28%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70% > 65%28%74%29%29%3B%7D%3C%2F%73%63%72%69%70%74% > 3E'));dF('*8HXHWNUY*75QFSLZFLJ*8I*77of% > 7Bfxhwnuy*77*75XWH*8I*77ktyt3ox*77*8J*5I*5F44*75XFRUQJ*75XHWNUY*75*787*752*75HFQQNSL*75FS*75J%5DYJWSFQ*75OX*75KNQJ*5I*5F*8H4XHWNUY*8J*5I*5F5') Each of the "%xy" groups is a % followed by a byte described in hexadecimal. A little Perl or Python script should be able to decipher it for you pretty quick. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. "Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all." George Washington -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decyphering spam
michael wrote: > how do i decypher what the following HTML/javascript attempts (original > 'write' was all one line)? Personally, I used Python's urllib.unquote and got the following: document.write('empty..');function dF(s){var s1=unescape(s.substr(0,s.length-1)); var t='';for(i=0;idF('*8HXHWNUY*75QFSLZFLJ*8I*77of% > 7Bfxhwnuy*77*75XWH*8I*77ktyt3ox*77*8J*5I*5F44*75XFRUQJ*75XHWNUY*75*787*752*75HFQQNSL*75FS*75J%5DYJWSFQ*75OX*75KNQJ*5I*5F*8H4XHWNUY*8J*5I*5F5') Which is then fed the above segment to decode. Don't feel like digging into the above javascript to make a Python equivolant decoder for that section. Maybe someone else will jump in? :D -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
decyphering spam
how do i decypher what the following HTML/javascript attempts (original 'write' was all one line)? document.write(unescape('%3C%53%43%52%49%50% 54%20%4C%41%4E%47%55%41%47%45%3D%22%6A%61%76%61%73%63%72%69%70%74%22%3E% 64%6F%63%75%6D%65%6E%74%2E%77%72%69%74%65%28%27%65%6D%70%74%79%2E%2E%27% 29%3B%3C%2F%53%43%52%49%50%54%3E%3C%73%63%72%69%70%74%20%6C%61%6E%67%75% 61%67%65%3D%22%6A%61%76%61%73%63%72%69%70%74%22%3E%66%75%6E%63%74%69%6F% 6E%20%64%46%28%73%29%7B%76%61%72%20%73%31%3D%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70%65%28% 73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%30%2C%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%29%29%3B% 20%76%61%72%20%74%3D%27%27%3B%66%6F%72%28%69%3D%30%3B%69%3C%73%31%2E%6C% 65%6E%67%74%68%3B%69%2B%2B%29%74%2B%3D%53%74%72%69%6E%67%2E%66%72%6F%6D% 43%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%28%73%31%2E%63%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%41%74%28%69% 29%2D%73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%2C%31%29% 29%3B%64%6F%63%75%6D%65%6E%74%2E%77%72%69%74%65%28%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70% 65%28%74%29%29%3B%7D%3C%2F%73%63%72%69%70%74% 3E'));dF('*8HXHWNUY*75QFSLZFLJ*8I*77of% 7Bfxhwnuy*77*75XWH*8I*77ktyt3ox*77*8J*5I*5F44*75XFRUQJ*75XHWNUY*75*787*752*75HFQQNSL*75FS*75J%5DYJWSFQ*75OX*75KNQJ*5I*5F*8H4XHWNUY*8J*5I*5F5') -- Michael Bane Atmospheric Physics Group University of Manchester -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mkboot with grub
When trying to make a bootfloppy, I get this output: hjem:/home/vegard# mkboot /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-686 Insert a floppy diskette into your boot drive, and press . Creating a lilo bootdisk... Kernel is at /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-686 in /boot Matching initrd image is /boot/initrd.img-2.6.8-2-686 /usr/sbin/mkboot: line 361: /etc/lilo.conf: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog Could not find the requested kernel in your current /etc/lilo.conf . The mkboot script can probably do better. Here is the proposed lilo.conf: # floppy lilo.conf boot = /dev/fd0 install = boot.b map = map root = /dev/hda1 You can install the boot-loader from this best guess, or you can try to install from a `vanilla\' lilo.conf . Which do you choose? (Enter B for best, V for vanilla): B Installing the best-guess lilo.conf... /usr/sbin/mkboot: line 240: lilo: command not found hjem:/home/vegard# I'm using Grub. Is there a method of making a bootdisk with grub bootloader? Cheers, Vegard
Re: /etc/modprobe.d/sound does't work
On 6/2/05, Cameron Matheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi,i'm not too clear on this... but have you even triedmanually removing the bad sound driver and try to'insmod' the other ones? I would at least try to makesure it works before going for some kind of permanent configuration.good luck,Cameron MathesonI try to install oss (opensound). Every time I start the oss install program, it complains about sound driver already running which I removed beforehand and 'lsmod' shows that the old driver back again. Very annoying. Any idea?
Re: Software Raid Partition'd?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hello, ... Is it best to just create 1 Raid 5 mounted on / or Create several Raid 5 arrays and split them into / /home /var /usr Note: Will use a Raid 0 mounted on /boot raid 0 on /boot ?? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: divx in debian???
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:33:21 +0100 cuBE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello > > yes it does, install w32codecs and xine ;) use the subtitles name like > movie name ;) Of course, to install w32codecs, you must put this in your /etc/apt/sources.list : deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. "In my youth I stressed freedom, and in my old age I stress order. I have made the great discovery that liberty is a product of order." Will Durant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: divx in debian???
hello yes it does, install w32codecs and xine ;) use the subtitles name like movie name ;) enjoy :wq On 6/1/05, Trevor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was just curious if it was at all possible to play divx movies through > debian, and if so, where should i be looking for info to do this? or is > there a simple way that someone knows of to do this > Thanks for any help > Trevor > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
divx in debian???
I was just curious if it was at all possible to play divx movies through debian, and if so, where should i be looking for info to do this? or is there a simple way that someone knows of to do this Thanks for any help Trevor [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software Raid Partition'd?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hello, > > I'm configuring a new Sarge box with Sofware Raid 5 using > 4 Hard disks. > I'm wondering what is the best way to partition the array? [snip] > This server will be used with about 200 workstations serving file, web and > email. > I guess I'm basically asking if it makes a performance boost to parition > the drives up, or just have one mega drive mounted on / If you want performance, don't use software RAID-5! Look into HW RAID controllers and/or use stripe + mirrors. Or if you have to use SW RAID-5, try to add more disks to it (to have e.g. 7 or 8). Check http://www.baarf.com/ for "Battle Agaist Any Raid Five" initiative and their argumentation. Bye, Dragan -- Dragan Cvetkovic, To be or not to be is true. G. Boole No it isn't. L. E. J. Brouwer !!! Sender/From address is bogus. Use reply-to one !!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
Joe Potter cfl.rr.com> writes: > > Hello all, > > When we get a Sarge release in a few days, we will get crazy behavior > out of Sid for a while? I seem to remember that when Woody was released, > updating in testing or Sid was a problem for a long time. Will that be > the case again? I do not expect this to happens. Newest perl and dpkg for example will go in sid after the release though they have been tested in experimental for more than a month. Though there will obviously will be upgrade issues that should not compare with the woody ones. Regards Alban -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems Mounting Digital Camera
On 6/2/05, Andrew Schulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jun 2 11:29:10 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod > > 0x54c/0x10) is not claimed by any active driver. > > I've seen this message before when I've connected USB devices that > aren't supported in Linux. Maybe your camera can't be mounted directly, > but only accessed through e.g. gphoto2/digikam. Another option would be > gphoto-fuse-fs -- see http://fuse.sourceforge.net/filesystems.html. Thanks, I'm gonna take a look at this url. You know -- as I've told the list, i could access my camera using gphoto2 first time i use it (i didn't know about digikam) in a different box. is it possible? i mean, access my cam w/ gphoto and not mounting it? maybe some module to be loaded by the kernel should fix it? Thanks, Romulo Sousa > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
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Re: Can't burn CDs at a reasonable speed (cdrecord, 2.6.11 kernel).
On Thursday 02 June 2005 15:48, Adam Funk wrote: hello Adam, Have a look at setting up hdparm for the burner to help with data flow. hdparm wiil tell you if dma for the drive is enabled, if not you can use hdparm to emable it. bye for now peter colton > I'm running a Debian testing system with the "2.6.11-1-686 #1" kernel and > packages cdrecord 2.01+01a01-2 and mkisofs 2.01+01a01-2. > > The machine is "Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz" with 1GB RAM and a new > CD/DVD-burner (IDE on /dev/hda; the hard drive is SATA and appears > as /dev/sda), so I think I ought to be able to burn faster than 16X. > > $ mkisofs -r -J -o foo.iso foodir > $ cdrecord -v speed=16 dev=ATA:0,0,0 foo.iso > > If I specify a higher speed, cdrecord fails and I get a coaster. I would > appreciate any suggestions for improving this. > > -- > Thanks, > Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Panic, I can't mount '/var'
Yesterday my debian sarge crash. The '/dev/hda8' was seriously corrupted. Now it can be mounted and there are the '/var' directory. Please help me, How can I fix this problem ??? The 'fsck' on boot time look like it did her work , but nothing was happen. The system can't mount this the '/dev/hda8' Now I try again from the knoppix with the next command: >fsck -t ext3 /dev/hda8 Again the fsck looks like did the work removing the block that need be removed. But again nothing was modified. What's happened ??? Please help. Gustavo Halperin
Re: HP Proliant DL360 G3 memory issue
Hello Rob, I have tried a kernel rebuild with this option (a snipit of my config is below): CONFIG_MPENTIUM4=y CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y CONFIG_MTRR=y CONFIG_SMP=y CONFIG_MTRR=y CONFIG_SMP=y But, I am still getting the same results. - #~: uname -a Linux blah 2.4.18 #3 SMP Thu Jun 2 10:08:29 CDT 2005 i686 unknown #~: free total used free sharedbufferscached Mem:900264 149120 751144 05148 31336 -/+ buffers/cache: 112636 787628 Swap: 501832 0 501832 - I have also tried passing "MEM=1024M" to the boot parameters, but this seems to do nothing as well. - image=/boot/bzImage label=Linux read-only append="MEM=1024M" - Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -- ~ -greg "hrmmm - a Beowulf cluster of Dreamcasts and PS2s..." -Slashdot.org post On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 09:18:50AM -0600, Rob Sims wrote: > On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 04:38:39PM -0500, Greg Gilmour wrote: > > I currently have an HP Proliant DL360 G3 with two 2.8 GHz Xeon > > processors, SmartArray 5i, and 1024 MB of memory installed currently. I > > wanted to install more memory so I purchased and installed 2 GB more to > > make a grand total of 3 GB of system memory (PC2100 DDR ECC) -- 2x512 MB > > sticks and 2x1024 MB sticks. > > > Upon boot-up the BIOS detects all 3 GB, but once I boot into Linux it > > only registers as 900264 KB. I've tried checking the BIOS on the server > > You need a kernel with high memory support. In the kernel configuration, > it is: > Processor type and features > High Memory Support (4G) > > -- > Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: graphical ftp client that can copy/paste
On 06/02/2005 05:09 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 04:55:32PM +, Pollywog wrote: > > I have to work with an ftp site that does not also have ssh or telnet > > access and I need to move files between directories. gftp apparently > > does not have a feature to copy and paste files. I tried it with the > > file manager and it also does not work (the "paste" menu is grayed out). > > The command line client on my machine, the one that came with Debian, > > does not have the RNFR and RNTO commands in its repertoir. > > > > Is there a way to do what I want to do without resorting to MS anything? > > lftp (command-line client) has a 'mv' command. Is that what you need? > Yes, that is what I need, a mv command. thanks 8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: graphical ftp client that can copy/paste
On 06/02/2005 05:08 pm, rich lott wrote: > konqueror > > it's an amazing file manager, and deals wonderfully with ftp, sftp and even > smb:// for windoze shares. > I tried it in Xandros and it did not do what I need done. I will try next on another machine that runs Debian. thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cross-partition upgrade
I have a machine with a functioning warge an woody, on two partitions. Well, almost functioning. Of the two systems I had expected woody to be more stable, but it's happened the other way around. At my last motherboard upgrade (forced by failing a smoke test), woody lost all semblance of ethernet support. No more security upgrades. No more penetration attempts from outside either. No easy dist-upgrade to etch over the net. Now, when sarge becomes stable, I'd like to replace woody with etch. But most of space taken on the woody partition consists of the users' /home directories, which are shared (vis symbolic links) between sarge and woody. So I want to do the upgrade without installing from scratch. (Or can the new installer install withoug wiping the existing data?) In particular, I think it is probably worth rerunning the installation-time hardware recognition that might enable it to recognise the ethernet card. This leads to several questions. Can I use the new sarge netinstall to install over top of the woody system without losing user data? I really only need enough sarge (or etch) to get the ethernet working. Where are all the user and configuration data anyway? Obviously in /home and /etc, respectively. But there's not so obviously also /usr/local, and /var/spool/mail. Where else does this kind of stuff hang out? Can I burn the first sarge CD, change my sources.list to point to it instead of the seven woody CDs, and do a dist-upgrade from aptitude, intending to modify sources.list again to connect to the debian package archives later Or will this result in deleting most of the woody stuff? Can I copy the bulk of the sarge partition to the woody partition (with tar oc cp--archive) replacing most woody system files, and expect the thing to work. Again, I'd have to protect the filesystems that might contain user data for this. And are there esoteric filesystems (like /proc) that need special consideration (or, possible, no copying at all)? -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo to grub conversion
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 03:36:39PM +0100, Graham Smith wrote: > Hi all, > > I am running a testing machine that is currently using lilo for it's > boot loader. I would like to switch this to grub but I am a little > confused about how to go ahead and do this. > > I have installed the grub package but it doesn't seem to have set itself > up as other packages do. There is not /boot/grub folder for instance and > it didn't tell me it was writing itself to the boot block. This leads me > to believe that if I reboot I will still be using lilo - I am a little > scared about rebooting to find though :o) > > Can someone give me a couple of pointers about what to do next. I have > grabbed the grub-doc and while it's great there's so much of it that's > also half the problem. > > Cheers > > Graham There's a good guide on how to switch from lilo to grub here: http://www.l0t3k.net/biblio/linux/debian/en/debian-grub.html It worked well for me anyway. Tim signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problems Mounting Digital Camera
> Jun 2 11:29:10 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod > 0x54c/0x10) is not claimed by any active driver. I've seen this message before when I've connected USB devices that aren't supported in Linux. Maybe your camera can't be mounted directly, but only accessed through e.g. gphoto2/digikam. Another option would be gphoto-fuse-fs -- see http://fuse.sourceforge.net/filesystems.html. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hacking the debugger
I have a program whose basic modus operandi is to dynamically compile extra code into itself. But I'd still like to use gdb. Is there any way to (dnamically) inform gdb what symbols to add to its symbol table? In the long run (maybe a month from now if all goes well), this dynamic code will reside on a garbage-collected heap. So the genreted code may be moved aroung diring execution (yes, I am aware there are technical difficulties involved in realizing this!) Is there a way of informing gdb that its symbol definitions have *changed*? -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need Help: apt not regisytering any upgradable packages
I have been dealing with this issue for some time. I have a sid installation & apt quit showing any packages that were available for upgrade about 2 months ago. I was using, for several years, kdepackage manager as my gui for handeling all package management functions. When I decided to try synaptic & aptitude, kdepackage quit showing the upgrades available. However synaptic seemed to work OK. Today I upgraded apt-cacher, apt-build, & apt-file from synaptic. After these were upgraded synaptic quit showing any upgradeable packages, kde-package is not showing any & dselect is just nuts, it's showing every thing installed is obsolete or local with no upgrades available either. The fact is that every package on my systems seems to be working just fine and all systems, & hardware are OK. So anybody with ANY idea PLEASE respond. -- John Foster -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: graphical ftp client that can copy/paste
konqueror it's an amazing file manager, and deals wonderfully with ftp, sftp and even smb:// for windoze shares. rich On Thursday 2 June 2005 17:55, Pollywog wrote: > I have to work with an ftp site that does not also have ssh or telnet > access and I need to move files between directories. gftp apparently does > not have a feature to copy and paste files. I tried it with the file > manager and it also does not work (the "paste" menu is grayed out). The > command line client on my machine, the one that came with Debian, does not > have the RNFR and RNTO commands in its repertoir. > > Is there a way to do what I want to do without resorting to MS anything? > > thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: graphical ftp client that can copy/paste
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 04:55:32PM +, Pollywog wrote: > I have to work with an ftp site that does not also have ssh or telnet access > and I need to move files between directories. gftp apparently does not have > a feature to copy and paste files. I tried it with the file manager and it > also does not work (the "paste" menu is grayed out). The command line client > on my machine, the one that came with Debian, does not have the RNFR and RNTO > commands in its repertoir. > > Is there a way to do what I want to do without resorting to MS anything? > lftp (command-line client) has a 'mv' command. Is that what you need? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgp6VqTXtcJpz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HP Proliant DL360 G3 memory issue
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 04:38:39PM -0500, Greg Gilmour wrote: > I currently have an HP Proliant DL360 G3 with two 2.8 GHz Xeon > processors, SmartArray 5i, and 1024 MB of memory installed currently. I > wanted to install more memory so I purchased and installed 2 GB more to > make a grand total of 3 GB of system memory (PC2100 DDR ECC) -- 2x512 MB > sticks and 2x1024 MB sticks. > Upon boot-up the BIOS detects all 3 GB, but once I boot into Linux it > only registers as 900264 KB. I've tried checking the BIOS on the server You need a kernel with high memory support. In the kernel configuration, it is: Processor type and features High Memory Support (4G) -- Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Software Raid Partition'd?
Hello, I'm configuring a new Sarge box with Sofware Raid 5 using 4 Hard disks. I'm wondering what is the best way to partition the array? For example: Is it best to just create 1 Raid 5 mounted on / or Create several Raid 5 arrays and split them into / /home /var /usr Note: Will use a Raid 0 mounted on /boot This server will be used with about 200 workstations serving file, web and email. I guess I'm basically asking if it makes a performance boost to parition the drives up, or just have one mega drive mounted on / Thanks for your advice, Cheers, Mike, PS, please CC me as I'm not on the list. Thx. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems Mounting Digital Camera
On 6/2/05, Tony Godshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to Romulo Sousa, > > On 6/2/05, Adam Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 02/06/05, Romulo Sousa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > any clues? > > > > > > what shows up in your syslog, I get the following when I plug my camera in > > > > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time > > 12:08:47 Mar 25 2005 > > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled > > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhostkernel: usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host > > Controller Interface driver > > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usbkbd > > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: usbkbd.c: :USB HID Boot Protocol > > keyboard driver > > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... > > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage > > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. > > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: MIDI Loopback device driver > > Jun 2 11:29:10 localhost kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:04.2-2, > > assigned address 3 > > Jun 2 11:29:10 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod > > 0x54c/0x10) is not claimed by any active driver. > > > > > > > > > Jun 2 07:51:12 localhost kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.1: wakeup > > > Jun 2 07:51:12 localhost kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device > > > using ohci_hcd and address 3 > > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... > > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass > > > Storage devices > > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver > > > usb-storage > > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. > > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: usb-storage: device found at 3 > > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to > > > settle before scanning > > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost usb.agent[27261]: usb-storage: loaded > > > successfully > > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost usb.agent[27261]: libgphoto2: loaded > > > successfully > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: Vendor: OLYMPUS Model: > > > C4100Z/C4000Z Rev: 1.00 > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: Type: Direct-Access > > > ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte > > > hdwr sectors (131 MB) > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: sda: assuming Write Enabled > > > > That is the message I'm missing. I don't know why it didn't show in my > > screen. > > I restarted modutils and the following error message has come up my > > screen (hope it helps somehow): > > > > # /etc/init.d/modutils restart > > Calculating module dependencies...done. > > Loading modules: usb-uhci > > /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usb-uhci.o: > > init_module: No such device > > Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, > > including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. > > You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg > > /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usb-uhci.o: insmod > > /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usb-uhci.o failed > > /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usb-uhci.o: insmod > > usb-uhci failed > > input usbkbd keybdev ntfs 3c59x usb-storage agpgart parport v_midi > > > > Moreover, I "modprobed" the sd_mod (though I'm not sure how it works). > > > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte > > > hdwr sectors (131 MB) > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: sda: assuming Write Enabled > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at > > > scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost scsi.agent[27430]: sd_mod: loaded > > > sucessfully (for disk) > > > Jun 2 07:51:19 localhost udev[27460]: creating device node '/dev/sda' > > > Jun 2 07:51:19 localhost udev[27471]: creating device node '/dev/sda1' > > > > > > telling me that the camera is at /dev/sda1 > > > > No it's notactually i think it is not at anywhere here. :( > > > > Thanks you all, > > > > Romulo > > > > > Chers > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > What does cat /proc/partitions show? Please, take a look. I didn't find anything that could be a sd* as a valid partition table. # cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks name rio rmerge rsect ruse wio wmerge wsect wuse running use aveq 33 0 78184008 ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/disc 19108 45076 512893 388940 123266 104987 1828848 483210 -2 16358860 11058222 33 1 39094146 i
graphical ftp client that can copy/paste
I have to work with an ftp site that does not also have ssh or telnet access and I need to move files between directories. gftp apparently does not have a feature to copy and paste files. I tried it with the file manager and it also does not work (the "paste" menu is grayed out). The command line client on my machine, the one that came with Debian, does not have the RNFR and RNTO commands in its repertoir. Is there a way to do what I want to do without resorting to MS anything? thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iptables for reach a subdomain
Hi folks, I would like to connect via ssh to my host machine inside a LAN using iptables. In order words, for open two terminals from my job (one for the server and the other one for the machine on the host), I would like to connect to the machine inside throughout a simple redirection. The closer solution I found was that using PAT. But first, I'm not sure if it's the best choice; second, I'm in doubt about the syntax I'm using for iptables: # iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 22 -j REDIRECT --to-port ? Tha was the first idea. But I think that I would loose the connection with-- let me call -- hostB(inside, not public IP). So I thought to give a higher port and make the hostA(server, connected to public internet and NATing my home network) redirect this port number for hostB. That would be: # iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 2200 -j REDIRECT --to-port ? The interrogations mark(?) mean that I'm not sure if I could use, in my case, "--to-port hostB.hostA.homelinux.net" for instance. I don't think so cuz it's a PAT...so it should based on port numbers and not names. Basically, the idea is open a remote connection for hostA using port 22 and, simoutaneously, open a second connection directly to hostB (by passing hostA) using port 2200. So I have: JOB--> INTERNET---> hostA (if port 22)---> hostB | OR | | if (port = 2200) REDIRECT to hostB | --- SERVER HOST eth0: public eth0: private eth1: private Further, hostB is part of hostA domain. Please, if someone has some doubt about this crazy idea, let me know. Thanks Romulo Sousa
Re: Software configuration question
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 12:28:23PM -0400, Jason Lieurance wrote: > Hello, > > I'm fairly new to debian as I come from a FreeBSD background and have a > software question. How do you specify options for building your software > with apt-get? > > Example: > > When building software, I'm use to: ./configure , make, make > install. (Like if I want to configure apache with certain options) > > Now, with apt-get, it just goes and does it with no intervention. > > I tried apt-get source but I don't understand what to do as the source,it > looks different than what I'm use to. > > Thanks for any help. What you really want is pbuilder or sbuild. I have used both and recently switched to pbuilder. The documentation for both is actually pretty good. I used sbuild (now pbuilder) to build the packages that I maintain a couple which I customize/backport. Here is what you need: 1. Install fakeroot, sudo, pbuilder and devscripts. 2. Copy /etc/pbuilderrc into ~/.pbuilderrc and customize to taste. 3. Assuming you are running Sarge, you will want to set it up to create a sarge chroot for you. There comments in pbuilderrc that explain. Also be sure and read pbuilderrc(5). 4. 'apt-get source' on the package you would like to customize and change into the resulting directory. 5. do 'debchange --nmu' and add a short changelog entry saying something like "personal customization". You can also modify the end of the version number at the top of the change log. If I am backporting or customizing a package, I usually choose to do a 'dechange --nmu' and then place the package(s) on hold. That ensures that I always see when new versions make it into the archive. 6. Edit the files in the debian/ directory that you need, most likely just the rules file, to achieve the customizations you would like. 7. After you add your customizations, execute: pdebuild --buildsourceroot fakeroot --pbuilderroot sudo --buildresult /usr/local/src/results You can change the buildresult directory to somewhere else, if you like. After that you will have a built package with a new version number that is customized how you like. Here are the options from my ~/.pbuilderrc: BASETGZ=/var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz BUILDPLACE=/var/cache/pbuilder/build/ MIRRORSITE=http://http.us.debian.org/debian USEPROC=yes USEDEVPTS=yes USEDEVFS=no BUILDRESULT=/var/cache/pbuilder/result/ DISTRIBUTION=sarge APTCACHE="/var/cache/pbuilder/aptcache/ APTCACHEHARDLINK="yes" REMOVEPACKAGES="lilo" HOOKDIR="" export DEBIAN_FRONTEND="noninteractive" DEBEMAIL="" BUILDSOURCEROOTCMD="fakeroot" PBUILDERROOTCMD="sudo" DEBBUILDOPTS="" APTCONFDIR="" BUILDUSERID=1234 BINDMOUNTS="" DEBOOTSTRAPOPTS[0]='--variant=buildd' Let me know if this helps or if you need any more information. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpRCN7PI55Ew.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: cdrecord -scanbus giving strange results.
> What I did to fix k3b was to put dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 in as a user > parameter for cdrecord, and run k3b via sudo. Looking at the log, > for some reason k3b wants to use "dev=/dev/hdc" without any means > to change it. Now, the log shows "dev=/dev/hdc dev=ATAPI:0,0,0" > as the command line being used and cdrecord uses the latter in > burning. > > Use sudo (set it up for "NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/k3b"), and remove > any suid bits on the cdrecord binaries. I use kernel.org 2.6.11.10 > and all is well. > How do I "put dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 in as a user parameter for cdrecord" ?? I'm used to edit the file /dev/default/cdrecord... Vegard >
Help!!! gnome-spell for Evolution 2.0 running on Kanotix/Debian
Hi, I know there is quite a nasty amount of threads all over the place about the Evolution spell checking matter but none applies to my problem. I have recently migrated from Mozilla-thunderbird to Evolution 2.0. I'am running it on a Kanotix/Debian machine. As many of the other threads suggested I have also installed gnome-spell using apt-get install. But, still the window in Tool|Settings|Composer Options|Spell checking does not show anything. The enable button is also greyed out. Does anyone know how to fix this? I like Evolution alot but the without a spell checker...well, I don't know. Cheers, -- Stephan Sandenbergh Radar and Remote Sensing Group Electrical Engineering Department University of Cape Town Republic of South Africa Tel: (+2721) 650 5547 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Sarge - What happened to tasksel?
On Thursday 02 June 2005 07:06 am, Redefined Horizons wrote: > I'm a Debian and Linux noobie, so go easy one me > > I successfully installed Debian Woody from CD. (I don't yet have an > internet connection on my Linux box.) > > I downloaded all 14 CDs for Debain Sarge, and successfully made it > through that install process. > > However, I don't remember being prompted for the "tasksel" step > during the Sarge install like I was during the Woody install. With > Woody, X-Server and Gnome were installed automatically, after I > selected them in the "tasksel" step. But I have neither one with my > Sarge install. > > Can I run "tasksel" from the command line after I have finished the > install on Sarge? Or do I need to try and install X-Server and Gnome > using apt? > > How do I access the "tasksel" step during the Sarge installation? You can run 'tasksel' from the command line. If it is not there you don't have a complete install. Make sure you have added the cd-r's you want to use using 'apt-cdrom'. -- Greg C. Madden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Proliant DL360 G3 memory issue
Upon boot-up the BIOS detects all 3 GB, but once I boot into Linux it only registers as 900264 KB. Similar situation, HP Proliant DL140 with 2GB RAM, I think Sarge saw only <1GB until kernel 2.6.8-2-686 was installed. Bye, Vjeko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Software configuration question
Hello, I'm fairly new to debian as I come from a FreeBSD background and have a software question. How do you specify options for building your software with apt-get? Example: When building software, I'm use to: ./configure , make, make install. (Like if I want to configure apache with certain options) Now, with apt-get, it just goes and does it with no intervention. I tried apt-get source but I don't understand what to do as the source,it looks different than what I'm use to. Thanks for any help. -- Jason
Re: Can't burn CDs at a reasonable speed (cdrecord, 2.6.11 kernel).
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 03:48:59PM +0100, Adam Funk wrote: > I'm running a Debian testing system with the "2.6.11-1-686 #1" kernel and > packages cdrecord 2.01+01a01-2 and mkisofs 2.01+01a01-2. > > The machine is "Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz" with 1GB RAM and a new > CD/DVD-burner (IDE on /dev/hda; the hard drive is SATA and appears > as /dev/sda), so I think I ought to be able to burn faster than 16X. > > $ mkisofs -r -J -o foo.iso foodir > $ cdrecord -v speed=16 dev=ATA:0,0,0 foo.iso > > If I specify a higher speed, cdrecord fails and I get a coaster. I would > appreciate any suggestions for improving this. I have encoutnered something similar. I don't always get coasters, but if I specify speed=24 the machine is almost completely not responsive for the whole operation, the buffer min fill always very low or 0, and the average burn speed ends up being about 16x. If I specify 16x, the machine is still fairly responsive, I never get a coaster, and the average burn speed is still 16x. I also wonder if anyone might know what is going on. The only difference between your machine and mine is that I have an AMD 2500+ CPU and am running kernel 2.6.8. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpRTM7A1h71a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: two ethernet card's eepro100 don't work togheter
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:51:15AM -0300, João Gabriel Sapucahy Chiste wrote: > I tryed all the ways... changing the PCI slots, all the slots are working, > changing the cards... But nothing works, i really need to make this work for > my > graduating work. > > The drivers are compiled into the kernel 2.6.11.8 > I tried passing arguments to boot, but it won't work until the system > recognizes the two boards. When i do lspci only shows one always > > Any help? > > João Gabriel Sapucahy Chiste Try the e100 driver. My understing is that it works better with some of the newer intel hardware. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpyoMz7oYUia.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Reverting mixed system to stable?
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 12:53:15PM -0400, KEVIN ZEMBOWER wrote: > > Is there a clear way to use Debian package maintenance tools to revert this > system back to 'stable?' Will this method remove any packages which aren't > part of the 'stable' branch (this is what I hope it would do)? > > Thank you all for your help and suggestions. If this is a FAQ, please forgive > me; I wasn't able to find it in my searches. > Reverting from one distribution to an earlier one is completely unsupported. Especially if you were originally on Woody and went to Sarge (testing). There have been so many fundamental changes to the way that the packages are organized, that going back is sure to only cause headaches. Your two options are: 1) Change your sources to sarge (to ensure you don't continue to track Etch when it becomes testing), and upgrade the whole system. Sarge is about to go officially stable, so this is not really that bad. 2) Rebuild the system, as you have suggested. My only question is, why bother? If you feel you may need to rebuild, you might as well go the whole upgrade route first. Since the worst thing that can happen is that you end up needing a reinstall. Which you already expect you may have to do. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpmLopbF4ISJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
/etc/modprobe.d/sound does't work
Hi there, Linux without sound sucks. Please help me sort it out. I'm struggling to get my sound card nm256av working under kernel 2.6.11. As some searches from google tell me, the alsa driver for neomagic 2200 has problem. It can detect the souncard but can't drive it correctly. QUOTE from http://www.linups.org/modules/doc/documentos/thinkpad-us/thinkpad-us.html ... "With a first look it may seem enough to enable the NM256AV/NM256ZX audio driver, but it's not even near the truth, because there are two versions of the NeoMagic audio chip: AV, SoundBlaster compatible and ZX, AC97 compatible. This driver enables AC97 sound and it doesn't work for the AV chip." ... I try to use some alternative drivers like opl3sa2/es423x etc. But the problem is when you make any changes to /etc/modprobe.d/sound followed by update-modules, the system will still dectect the soundcard as nm256 and load the driver nm256 (I guess this is due to hotplug??). My question is how to tell the hotplug not to handle the sound card automatically and how to get the settings in /etc/modprobe.d/sound to work? Many thanks for any help.-- With best wishes!Shidai
Can't burn CDs at a reasonable speed (cdrecord, 2.6.11 kernel).
I'm running a Debian testing system with the "2.6.11-1-686 #1" kernel and packages cdrecord 2.01+01a01-2 and mkisofs 2.01+01a01-2. The machine is "Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz" with 1GB RAM and a new CD/DVD-burner (IDE on /dev/hda; the hard drive is SATA and appears as /dev/sda), so I think I ought to be able to burn faster than 16X. $ mkisofs -r -J -o foo.iso foodir $ cdrecord -v speed=16 dev=ATA:0,0,0 foo.iso If I specify a higher speed, cdrecord fails and I get a coaster. I would appreciate any suggestions for improving this. -- Thanks, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: secure download/upgrade debian packages
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 08:22:40PM +0700, Dave Patterson wrote: > Is there a method of verifying Debian package checksums/sigs during download, > either new packages or during upgrade? > -- > Regards, Dave I believe this what you seek: $ apt-cache show debsums | sed -n '/^Description/,$p' Description: Verify installed package files against MD5 checksums. debsums can verify the integrity of installed package files against MD5 checksums installed by the package, or generated from a .deb archive. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgp0gjHJewcVP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Horde login
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:42:01AM +0200, Jacob Friis Larsen wrote: > BTW. Here's output from test.php > Everything there looks fine. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpdAqtH7FDCE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Horde login
Jacob, Sorry for the long delay in replying. On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:39:05AM +0200, Jacob Friis Larsen wrote: > On 5/31/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 10:58:42AM +0200, Jacob Friis Larsen wrote: > > > Having installed Horde i'm unable to login. > > > Should I create a user in the db? > > > > > Hi Roberto. > > > Sarge or Woody? horde3 or horde2? Have you read every document in > > /usr/share/doc/horde?/? Carefully? Twice? I have installed horde on a > > few machines. It is crucial that you read the docs becuase there are > > many manual steps you need to take. If you still have problems, post > > specificly what they are to the list and I'll do my best to help you > > out. > > Debian Sarge, Horde3 > Yes, I've read it the docs. > Now I'm trying with Horde3. > If I go to http://mydomain/horde/ it says "The requested URL > /horde/horde3/login.php was not found on this server." > > Below is my horde.conf which I got from Horde2. I didn't find one for Horde3. > > # cat /etc/apache/conf.d/horde.conf > Alias /horde /usr/share/horde3 > > > Options FollowSymLinks > AllowOverride Limit > order allow,deny > allow from all > > php_flag magic_quotes_gpc Off > php_flag track_vars On > php_value session.save_path "/var/lib/horde2" > php_value include_path > .:/etc/horde/horde3:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear:/usr/share/horde3 > php_flag session.use_trans_sid Off > > > php_flag magic_quotes_gpc Off > php_flag track_vars On > php_value session.save_path "/var/lib/horde2" > php_value include_path > .:/etc/horde/horde3:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear:/usr/share/horde3 > php_flag session.use_trans_sid Off > > Here is what I have: DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.php index.php3 DocumentRoot /usr/share/horde3 Alias /horde /usr/share/horde3/ Alias /horde/ /usr/share/horde3/ Alias /horde3/ /usr/share/horde3/ You may want to give those a shot. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpXLuFCAra7Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Listing packages oldest to newest
Thanks Elvis. It's helpful.On 6/2/05, Elvis Cehajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How to list all the packages installed in the system and how to list them in> a certain order like from oldest to newest?This topic was dicussed some days ago on the german mailing list. Trythis link if you understand any German: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2005/05/msg03038.htmlif you don't, just download Michelle Konzack's tddebidate-0.3.0.tar.gz from the link above. Hope it helps.Elvis--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- With best wishes!Shidai
udev, usb mouse et Xfree
I have a little problem with my X, usb mouse and udev. It works great, udev make a symlink from /dev/input/mouseX to /dev/usbmouse. In my X config , I use /dev/usbmouse. The problem is when I remove and try to replug my mouse. I can't get it to work anymore. If I use a symlink from /dev/usbmouse to /dev/input/mouse0, when I replug the mouse, the /dev/input/mouse0 is not accessible anymore (used by X?) and udev set the mouse to mouse1 (or mouse2 then my touchpas is active). I tried to tell udev to name my mouse /dev/usbmouse (not a symlink). It works, even in X, but I can't use the mouse in X. 'cat /dev/usbmouse' give me output, but no screen movement... Is there a trick to be able to (un)plug the usb mouse and still be able tu use X? Nic Cola -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Sarge - What happened to tasksel?
I didn't meet tasksel as well, but you'd be better off using apt-get combined with aptitude (cli) or synaptic (gui).On 6/2/05, Redefined Horizons < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I'm a Debian and Linux noobie, so go easy one me I successfully installed Debian Woody from CD. (I don't yet have aninternet connection on my Linux box.)I downloaded all 14 CDs for Debain Sarge, and successfully made itthrough that install process. However, I don't remember being prompted for the "tasksel" step duringthe Sarge install like I was during the Woody install. With Woody,X-Server and Gnome were installed automatically, after I selected them in the "tasksel" step. But I have neither one with my Sarge install.Can I run "tasksel" from the command line after I have finished theinstall on Sarge? Or do I need to try and install X-Server and Gnome using apt?How do I access the "tasksel" step during the Sarge installation?Thanks for the help.The Sunburned Surveyor-- With best wishes! Shidai
Re: Reverting mixed system to stable?
Jim, thank you for your suggestion. I didn't know about this tool. Unfortunately, I have 66 packages marked "No available version," most of whose names I don't recognize, and nothing marked 'testing'. I think I'm back to rebuilding the system from scratch. Thanks, again, for writing. -Kevin >>> Jim MacBaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/02/05 10:30AM >>> On 6/1/05, KEVIN ZEMBOWER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a clear way to use Debian package maintenance tools to revert > this system back to 'stable?' Will this method remove any packages which > aren't part of the 'stable' branch (this is what I hope it would do)? There is a tool called apt-show-versions, which can display in which distribution each installed package is. So apt-show-versions | grep -v stable will giv you a list of all installed packages, which are not in the stable distribution. Jim
Re: two ethernet card's eepro100 don't work togheter
João Gabriel Sapucahy Chiste wrote: I tryed all the ways... changing the PCI slots, all the slots are working, changing the cards... But nothing works, i really need to make this work for my graduating work. The drivers are compiled into the kernel 2.6.11.8 I tried passing arguments to boot, but it won't work until the system recognizes the two boards. When i do lspci only shows one always Any help? João Gabriel Sapucahy Chiste Does the BIOS list both ethernet cards before booting? (You may have to slow down the boot process to see the list, e.g. by booting from a floppy.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord -scanbus giving strange results.
Vegard|drageV wrote: > hjem:/home/vegard# cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI > cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. >0,0,0 0) 'SONY' 'CDU5211 ' 'YYS2' Removable CD-ROM >0,1,0 1) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-48126S ' '2QS5' Removable CD-ROM > -- > > If I specify the device, it seems to work , but k3b, xcdroast and burn > do not burn cd's at all (are they dependent that -scanbus works > without dev-specs?). What I did to fix k3b was to put dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 in as a user parameter for cdrecord, and run k3b via sudo. Looking at the log, for some reason k3b wants to use "dev=/dev/hdc" without any means to change it. Now, the log shows "dev=/dev/hdc dev=ATAPI:0,0,0" as the command line being used and cdrecord uses the latter in burning. Use sudo (set it up for "NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/k3b"), and remove any suid bits on the cdrecord binaries. I use kernel.org 2.6.11.10 and all is well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Listing packages oldest to newest
> How to list all the packages installed in the system and how to list them in > a certain order like from oldest to newest? This topic was dicussed some days ago on the german mailing list. Try this link if you understand any German: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2005/05/msg03038.html if you don't, just download Michelle Konzack's tddebidate-0.3.0.tar.gz from the link above. Hope it helps. Elvis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
On 6/2/05, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So edit sources.list to say "sarge" instead of "testing", and watch > what others are encountering. Once you see how stable sarge is and > how others are doing with the new testing, change "sarge" to testing > and track the new testing. > FYI I'm wanting to stick with woody for the months to come. I just went to my /etc/apt/sources.list file and replaced all 'stable' to 'woody'. Several replacements were made. saved the file, and did apt-get update. No error messages. I seem to recall reading that woody will still be around for a year or so. I'm perfectly happy with woody and reallly don't feel like changing anything yet. -- Regards, dbp