Re: KDE Clarification

[Brendon Lloyd Higgins]

David R. Litwin wrote (Friday 02 September 2005 1:44 pm):
> > The way I understand the current status, the answer is "No, KDE 3.4.2 is
> > not
> > ready to be installed on Sid." The ABI transition is still underway and
> > it looks like many 3.4.2 packages have been uploaded, but some still have
> > not been, so it's still a little early to try upgrading.
>
> I assume, then, that the message *Qt, aRts and KDE C++ ABI transitions:
> time to upload your packages *does not apply and / or that this is for
> Maintainers.?

It applies to maintainers. It's urging them to upload new versions of their 
packages that depend on newer KDE and C++ ABI stuff. Not all of them have 
been uploaded yet so, naturally, not all of them can be downloaded by you 
yet. This is what's causing all the conflicts and things you are seeing in 
synaptic.

Peace,
Brendon


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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Chen Wei]

Yes, screen is a good choice.

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Subject: Re: Starting background process in ssh session


>* Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-01 16:45]:
>> Is there a way to get it start the process in the background
>> and then detach from the shell? 
> 
> I use "screen" for these sorts of things
> 
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Re: KDE Clarification

[David R. Litwin]

The way I understand the current status, the answer is "No, KDE 3.4.2 is not

ready to be installed on Sid." The ABI transition is still underway and itlooks like many 3.4.2 packages have been uploaded, but some still have notbeen, so it's still a little early to try upgrading.

I assume, then, that the message Qt, aRts and KDE C++ ABI transitions: time to upload your packages does not apply and / or that this is for Maintainers.?
-- —A watched bread-crumb never boils.—My hover-craft is full of eels.—[...]and that's the he and the she of it.

Re: KDE Clarification

[Brendon Lloyd Higgins]

David R. Litwin wrote (Friday 02 September 2005 12:59 pm):
> Forgive me for asking but,
>
> I should like to have a bit of clarification. Is KDE 3.4.2 ready to be
> installed on Sid under the i386 architechture.
> [snip]

The way I understand the current status, the answer is "No, KDE 3.4.2 is not 
ready to be installed on Sid." The ABI transition is still underway and it 
looks like many 3.4.2 packages have been uploaded, but some still have not 
been, so it's still a little early to try upgrading.

Peace,
Brendon


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KDE Clarification

[David R. Litwin]

Forgive me for asking but,I should like to have a bit of clarification. Is KDE 3.4.2 ready to be installed on Sid under the i386 architechture. I got KDE 3.4.1 from Alioth; perhaps this explain the long list (see below).? I ask for I am getting the following message with synaptic (I switched from apt-get, so here is what the latter says:)
(Forgive me again, this is long. Thank you in advance.)The following packages will be REMOVED:   akregator (3.4.1-1)   atlantikdesigner (3.3.2-4)   dbus-qt-1 (0.23.4-3)   gtk2-engines-gtk-qt (
0.60-1)   kaddressbook (3.4.1-1)   kaddressbook-plugins (3.3.2-4)   kalarm (3.4.1-1)   kalzium (3.3.2-3)   kandy (3.4.1-1)   karm (3.4.1-1)   kate-plugins (3.3.2-4)   kbruch (3.3.2-3)   kcmlinuz (
3.3.2-1)   kde (44)   kde-amusements (44)   kdeaddons (3.3.2-4)   kdeaddons-kfile-plugins (3.3.2-4)   kdeedu (3.3.2-3)   kdelibs4 (3.4.1-1)   kdepim (3.4.1-1)   kdepim-kfile-plugins (3.4.1-1
)   kdepim-kio-plugins (3.4.1-1)   kdepim-kresources (3.4.1-1)   kdepim-wizards (3.4.1-1)   kdewebdev (3.3.2-6)   keduca (3.3.2-3)   kfilereplace (3.3.2-6)   khangman (3.3.2-3)   kicker-applets (
3.3.2-4)   kig (3.3.2-3)   kimagemapeditor (3.3.2-6)   kitchensync (3.4.1-1)   kiten (3.3.2-3)   klatin (3.3.2-3)   kleopatra (3.4.1-1)   klettres (3.3.2-3)   klinkstatus (3.3.2-6)   kmail (
3.4.1-1)   kmailcvt (3.4.1-1)   kmessedwords (3.3.2-3)   kmplot (3.3.2-3)   knode (3.4.1-1)   knotes (3.4.1-1)   kommander (3.3.2-6)   konq-plugins (3.3.2-4)   konsolekalendar (3.4.1-1)
   kontact (3.4.1-1)   korganizer (3.4.1-1)   korn (3.4.1-1)   kpercentage (3.3.2-3)   kpilot (3.4.1-1)   ksig (3.3.2-4)   kstars (3.3.2-3)   ksync (3.4.1-1)   ktnef (3.4.1-1)   ktouch (
3.3.2-3)   kturtle (3.3.2-3)   kverbos (3.3.2-3)   kvoctrain (3.3.2-3)   kwordquiz (3.3.2-3)   kxsldbg (3.3.2-6)   libarts1 (1.4.1-1)   libcvsservice0 (3.3.2-3)   libgmp3 (4.1.4-6)   libkcal2a (
3.4.1-1)   libkdeedu1 (3.3.2-3)   libkdenetwork2 (3.3.2-3)   libkdepim1 (3.4.1-1)   libkgantt0 (3.4.1-1)   libkleopatra0a (3.4.1-1)   libkpimexchange1 (3.4.1-1)   libkpimidentities1 (3.4.1-1)
   libksieve0 (3.4.1-1)   libktnef1 (3.4.1-1)   libmimelib1a (3.4.1-1)   libmusicbrainz4 (2.1.1-3)   libopenexr2 (1.2.2-2)   libqt-perl (3.008-1.3)   libqt3c102-mt (3.3.4-3)   libsmokeqt1 (3.3.2-1
)   libtag1 (1.3.1-1)   libtunepimp2 (0.3.0-3)   networkstatus (3.4.1-1)   noatun-plugins (3.3.2-4)   python-qt3 (3.14.1-2)   python2.3-qt3 (3.14.1-2)   qgo (1.0.2-1)   quanta (3.3.2-6)
   vimpart (3.3.2-4)The following NEW packages will be installed:   dbus-qt-1c2 (0.23.4-6)   kdelibs4c2 (3.4.2-3)   libarts1c2 (1.4.2-4)   libflac7 (1.1.2-3)   libgmp3c2 (4.1.4-10)   libiw28 (27+28pre8-1)
   libmusicbrainz4c2 (2.1.1-3.2)   liboggflac3 (1.1.2-3)   libopenexr2c2 (1.2.2-4)   libqt3-mt (3.3.4-7)   libtag1c2 (1.3.1-1.1)   libtunepimp2c2 (0.3.0-7)   libxcomposite1 (6.8.2.dfsg.1-6)
   libxdamage1 (6.8.2.dfsg.1-6)   libxfixes3 (6.8.2.dfsg.1-6)   perl-suid (5.8.7-4)The following packages will be upgraded:   akode (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   amor (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   ark (3.4.1-1
 => 3.4.2-1)   arts (1.4.1-1 => 1.4.2-4)   artsbuilder (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   atlantik (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   dbus-1 (0.23.4-3 => 0.23.4-6)   dbus-1-dev (0.23.4-3 => 0.23.4-6)   dbus-glib-1 (
0.23.4-3 => 0.23.4-6)   dbus-qt-1-dev (0.23.4-3 => 0.23.4-6)   dcoprss (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-2)   eyesapplet (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   fifteenapplet (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   juk (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1
)   kaboodle (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kaffe (1.1.5-5 => 1.1.5-cvs20050808-2)   kaffe-common (1.1.5-5 => 1.1.5-cvs20050808-2)   kaffe-pthreads (1.1.5-5 => 1.1.5-cvs20050808-2)   kamera (3.4.1-1
 => 3.4.2-1)   kappfinder (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kasteroids (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kate (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   katomic (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kaudiocreator (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kbackgammon (
3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kbattleship (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kblackbox (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kbounce (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kcalc (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kcharselect (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)
   kcoloredit (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kcontrol (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kcron (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdat (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kde-i18n-engb (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-2)   kdeadmin (3.4.1-1 => 
3.4.2-1)   kdeadmin-kfile-plugins (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdeartwork (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdeartwork-emoticons (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdeartwork-misc (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdeartwork-style (
3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdeartwork-theme-icon (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdeartwork-theme-window (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdebase (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdebase-bin (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdebase-data (
3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdebase-kio-plugins (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdegames (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdegames-card-data (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdegraphics (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdegraphics-kfile-plugins (
3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdelibs (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-3)   kdelibs-bin (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-3)   kdelibs-data (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-3)   kdelirc (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1)   kdemultimedia (3.4.1-1 => 3.4.2-1
)   kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data (3.4.1-1 =

Re: Debian Laptop problem and guide repository.

[David R. Litwin]

On 31/08/05, Philip Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That is exactly what I am shooting for and want to see. I have beenworking on changes to the installer and I just started working on a customcd iso that will use new versions of discover, hotplug, newer kernel
modules, and more laptop related modules/drivers. I feel there is a largeenough following for Debian on laptops to warent this.To add my useless two cents:I will (very soon now) be getting a Toshiba A70 laptop, on to which I will, of course, put Debian. So, any help I can get for this installation will be much Appreciated. In addition, I would be quite willing to assist in any way I can, though I do say earnestly that I am no Debian Guru Debugger. But, certainly, if there is some thing I can do (when I get the laptop), let me know.
And that's the he and the she of it.

OT: the GIMP; was: Debian-laptop.org

[Kent West]

charlie derr wrote:

> Here's what it looks like in firefox (where i do more browsing than
> from any other browser, though i regularly use epiphany, konqueror,
> mozilla, safari, links and lynx as well)
>
> http://people.simons-rock.edu/cderr/debian-laptop.png
>

Just in case you were using the GIMP to grab that snapshot, let me
suggest that next time you just run from a terminal (or Alt-F2 in KDE
for a one-liner) the command "import debian-laptop.png". Then you can
either click on a window to snap just that window, or draw a square
around the area you want. "display debian-laptop.png" will display it
for you. These commands are part of the imagemagick package.

Interesting note: when I used the GIMP to grab a screenshot on my
machine, just to see if perhaps that's what you had done, I had my TV
card playing the Cowboy's game, and when the snapshot took, the part of
the snap where the TV window was wound up sitting on top of the actual
TV window, and still showed the live TV images, but cropped to the size
of the snap's TV window. Weird, odd, and interesting.

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Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

[furufuru]

Andy Streich wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 August 2005 02:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
> I used java-package along with Sun's Java 5.  Instructions here:
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142

Great article!  That works for me.  Thanks for your help.

Returning to my original question of free Debian Java packages,
I think this quote from the article above summarizes the situation:

   "Whilst there [are] a growing number of open Java environments
at times installing Sun Java environment is the pragmatic
approach. . . ."

Regards,
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Re: Help with CD-ROM

[Kent West]

Don Munson wrote:

>I have searched and can find nothing definitive.  I did find a loose
>connector that went from the CD not being in the system at all (no wonder
>with no connection) to getting an error message of Unable to identify CD-ROM
>format from dmesg.
>
So you're saying you reconnected the cable, and now you're getting
different results?

>  When I try to mount the CD from within Gnome I get the
>following: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
>missing codepage or other error.
>  
>

Go into a terminal window, and run "dmesg | grep hd"; you'll should get
some information about your hard drives. Your CD drive may show up as
something like /dev/hdc.

With this info, manually mount the CD with the command "mount /dev/hdc
/cdrom"; you'll have to do this as root, so run "su -" once you've
opened the terminal window to become root within that terminal.

If you have access to another machine on which you can download and burn
a CD image, burn yourself a Knoppix, Kanotix, Mepis, or some other
LiveCD. See if you can boot from it. This is a good test to make sure
your CD drive/hardware is working properly.

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Re: how do I change language in Gnome

[Sergio Cuéllar Valdés]

Am 01.09.05 schrieb Sergio Cuéllar Valdés <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I want to change the language too, with dpkg-reconfigure locales I
> have selected german.
> But when I choose the german language with gdm, and log in, I receive
> an error message, saying that that language is not installed.
> 
> But in a shell I can make a :
> 
> $ LANG="de_DE" date "+%A"
> Donnerstag
> 
> The locales that were generated were:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
> de_DE ISO-8859-1
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] UTF-8
> de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8
> 
> 
> I am using gnome as desktop. What can be wrong ?

ooops,  I havent restarted gdm. Now my problem is already solved.   : )


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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:09:54PM -0500, Greg Norris wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:33:28PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > I occasionally log into a machine remotely and start a process in the
> > background:
> > 
> > command &
> > 
> > However, when I log out of the machine, the ssh process on my local
> > machine blocks.  I guess that it is becuase the remote still has jobs
> > running.  Is there a way to get it start the process in the background
> > and then detach from the shell?  I have already tried this:
> 
> This is often caused because the process still has a file descriptor (FD)
> referencing the tty.  Ssh doesn't like to terminate when this occurs,
> because there's a chance that the FD could still be required.  If this 
> is the case, then you probably just need to redirect the usual 
> suspects... stdin, stdout, and/or stderr.  Something like:
> 
>$ command &0 2>&0 &
> 
> It may not be necessary to redirect all of them, but that will probably 
> require some experimentation to determine.  You may want to consider 
> running your command under "nohup" as well, to protect it from the loss 
> of your session.

OK.  I should have been more precise in my explanation then.  I am
redirecting like this:

command >log.txt 2>&1 &

Is that causing it then?

-Roberto

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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Greg Norris]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:33:28PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> I occasionally log into a machine remotely and start a process in the
> background:
> 
> command &
> 
> However, when I log out of the machine, the ssh process on my local
> machine blocks.  I guess that it is becuase the remote still has jobs
> running.  Is there a way to get it start the process in the background
> and then detach from the shell?  I have already tried this:

This is often caused because the process still has a file descriptor (FD)
referencing the tty.  Ssh doesn't like to terminate when this occurs,
because there's a chance that the FD could still be required.  If this 
is the case, then you probably just need to redirect the usual 
suspects... stdin, stdout, and/or stderr.  Something like:

   $ command &0 2>&0 &

It may not be necessary to redirect all of them, but that will probably 
require some experimentation to determine.  You may want to consider 
running your command under "nohup" as well, to protect it from the loss 
of your session.


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Re: how do I change language in Gnome

[Sergio Cuéllar Valdés]

I want to change the language too, with dpkg-reconfigure locales I
have selected german.
But when I choose the german language with gdm, and log in, I receive
an error message, saying that that language is not installed.

But in a shell I can make a :

$ LANG="de_DE" date "+%A"
Donnerstag

The locales that were generated were:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
de_DE ISO-8859-1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] UTF-8
de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8


I am using gnome as desktop. What can be wrong ?

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Re: oggenc doesn't recognize my WAV

[Andrew Sackville-West]

can you open/play the .wavs in audacity? if so, you can encode ogg from 
there.


A

Michael Crawford wrote:
I have some WAV files of my piano compositions that I wan't to convert 
to ogg vorbis with oggenc.  But when I try I get the following message:


"ERROR: Wav file is unsupported subformat (must be 8,16, or 24 bit PCM
or floating point PCM"

Here's what the file command says about my WAV file:

"Michael David Crawford - Geometric Visions - 1 - Emergence.wav: RIFF 
(little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44100 Hz"


I always thought WAVE files came in RIFF containers.  I know that I've 
always been able to play the files in all the players I've ever tried.


How could I convert it to a supported format? It would be unpleasant to 
have to redigitize the file, as my master is an analog tape, and I'd 
have to hook my tape deck up to my Mac to recapture it.  It's hard to 
get it right.  I captured my WAV files years ago under the Classic Mac OS.


(I just placed my MP3s under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 
2.5 license.  You can download them from 
http://www.geometricvisions.com/music/  I'll post oggs as soon as I can 
encode them.  It's just taken me a long time to get around to it.)


Thanks for your help,

Michael D. Crawford
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[charlie derr]

Kevin Coyner wrote:


On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:24:17PM -0400, Philip Schwartz wrote..



I am pleased to announce that debian-laptop.org will be the home
of the Debain on Laptops Information and Guide repo.



Great idea but way too heavy of a website for me with all that Flash
and music.  Just my two cents.



Wow, I agree (and i'm usually not critical at all of someone else's idea of a 
busy, fun website).

Here's what it looks like in firefox (where i do more browsing than from any 
other browser, though i regularly use epiphany, konqueror, mozilla, safari, 
links and lynx as well)

http://people.simons-rock.edu/cderr/debian-laptop.png


I do think the idea of a debian laptop site is a fantastic one though, and I'll probably start randomly clicking on links to try and find the content pretty quickly even if you don't get rid of all 
the glitter :-]


keep on keepin on,
~c




Kevin





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Help with CD-ROM

[Don Munson]

I am a linux newbie - real new with just enough knowledge to be dangerous to
myself.

I have the Woody CD set and installed Debian multiple numbers of months ago.
I was running a web server with no issues and then the power supply for my
computer died.  I replaced the power supply and brought the computer back
up.  After playing around I think I messed up something and decided it would
be easier to reinstall and start over clean.

However, now the computer will not find my CD-ROM at all.  It was working
when I installed Debian but I'm not 100% sure what was "driving" the CD for
the installation (windows or linux).

I have searched and can find nothing definitive.  I did find a loose
connector that went from the CD not being in the system at all (no wonder
with no connection) to getting an error message of Unable to identify CD-ROM
format from dmesg.  When I try to mount the CD from within Gnome I get the
following: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
missing codepage or other error.

I'd appreciate any comments that anyone wants to chime in with as I'm pretty
much at my wits end at this point.

Don



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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 12:18:50AM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> 
> 
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> >On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:10:19PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> >>Do you want to use `at' ?
> >That seems a bit kludgy.  I suppose I could always do `at now + 1 min`
> >or something like that.
> >-Roberto
> 
> at -f 

Re: What value does putting dns-nameservers in interfaces do?

[Franco Gorziglia]

2005/9/1, Eric Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> In testing, I'm installing postfix and it is pulling in this
> resolvconf package. resolvconf is trying to tell me that it is much
> better to put my name servers in /etc/network/interfaces. But why?
> What is the benefit?
> 
> Does I need this line for each defined interface or just at the top
> of the file for all interfaces?
> 
> 
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They're for each interface.

I think that the reason is because you can have different interfaces
connecting  by different ways (for example in a notebook); when you
connect by ppp or by dhcp normally the nameservers are defined by
them.

Example:

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 10.9.18.19
netmask 255.255.0.0
network 10.9.0.0
broadcast 10.9.255.255
gateway 10.9.0.2
# dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed
dns-nameservers 10.0.0.86 200.72.1.5 200.72.1.1

auto ath0
iface ath0 inet dhcp
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Re: etch netinstall

[Franco Gorziglia]

2005/9/1, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu September 1 2005 09:29 am, Ivan Glushkov wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >  I just tried to install Debian etch using netinstall on my home PC. I
> > always did it that way.. OK, when it did not find my network card I was
> > not surprised (I made an additional CD with kernel 2.6.13 and the LAN
> > divers from Marvell planning to upgrade the kernel, install the network
> > driver and then continue with the installation), but I do not know what to
> > do after I got the message that tha main system cannot be installed. What
> > does it mean? zsh: no matches found: (I made an additional CD with kernel
> > 2.6.13 and the LAN divers from Marvell).Do I have to download the whole 14
> > CDs and install it from there? (btw., I never understood why there are no
> > DVD images for Debian)
> 
> There are dvd images of Sarge. I would install the base sarge and then once
> it's up and running edit /etc/apt/sources.list to testing and apt-get update,
> then apt-get upgrade, then apt-get dist-upgrade.
> 
> This has always worked for me. I've tried the testing install iso's a couple
> times and have not had good luck with them for unknown reasons, but upgrading
> from sarge has worked well (for me anyway YMMV).
> 
> 
> --

I know that you always can perform a complete system-base instalation
with netinstall, no matter if you have your netcard running.

So, after finish the instalation of the system base, you can install
the kernel and drivers form console, and then when you have your
network card recognized run #base-config

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Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

[charlie]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 20:07:18 +0200
Guido used the keyboard to craft this:

  >|Am Mittwoch, 31. August 2005 21:15 schrieb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:  >|[...]
  >|> I wasn't asking whether there's an official Debian package
  >|> for the Sun Java.  I knew that's impossible exactly for the reason
  >|> you explain.  What I was asking was whether there are _free_ Java
  >|> components usable as a browser plugin and if there are, which
Debian  >|> package contains them.
  >|>
  >|> Well, I didn't explicitly say that, but I mentioned the standard
Debian  >|> way, which usually means that you use official _free_ Debian
packages  >|> if possible.
  >|
  >|I think you might get the info you want from this mail
  >|http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg2.html
  >|
  >|or perhaps from the Debian Java Wiki:
  >|http://java.debian.net/
  >|
  >|cheers,
  >|Guido
 

 Or maybe you might like to look at and apt-get install free-java-sdk?

Charlie

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diversity. ..anon

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What value does putting dns-nameservers in interfaces do?

[Eric Brown]

In testing, I'm installing postfix and it is pulling in this  
resolvconf package. resolvconf is trying to tell me that it is much  
better to put my name servers in /etc/network/interfaces. But why?  
What is the benefit?


Does I need this line for each defined interface or just at the top  
of the file for all interfaces?



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Re: Multiple monitors?

[Alvin Oga]

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Jeffrey Alsip wrote:
> > Is it possible to run multiple monitors under Debian? If so, what steps
> > are necessary?

http://www.Linux-1U.net/X11/Dual/

look for the MultiUser section

c ya
alvin
 
> Better yet: get 3 more keyboards, 3 more mice and you can accomodate 4 
> users on your box:
> 
> http://www.ltn.lv/~aivils/
> 


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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Jerome BENOIT]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:10:19PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


Do you want to use `at' ?



That seems a bit kludgy.  I suppose I could always do `at now + 1 min`
or something like that.

-Roberto



at -f 

Re: mounting large hfsplus partion

[Ric Otte]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 08:15:24PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> Hmmm, try:
> $ hpmount /dev/hdc2
> *** bla
> *** blo
> y 
> $ hpumount
> hpumount: destroy: bli
> $ mount -t hfsplus /dev/hdc2 /HFS
> 
> Elimar

That gave me the following:
hpmount: /dev/hdc2: This is not a HFS+ volume (Unknown error
4294967295)
I tried hpfsch -v /dev/hdc2, which gave me a long message (appended at
the end of this email) that ended with:
Volume was last Mounted by hfsplus kernel module: 
xL+H
Invalid total blocks 880, expected 0
Done ***
*** Checking Backup Volume Header:
Unexpected Volume signature '  ' expected 'H+'
hpfsck: hpfsck: This is not a HFS+ volume (Unknown error
4294967295)

I then took out that drive and put in a HFS+ drive that only had one
partition on it; that worked fine and when mounted using mount
-thfsplus device mntpoint I saw lots of gigabytes.  

So, I am guessing that the problem is that the original drive was
partitioned into one HFS+ partition and one ext3 partition.  I
originally formatted it into a HFS+ partition on the mac and a "linux"
partition, and then once it was in my linux machine, I reformatted the
non-hfs partition to ext3.  I did this because I don't know how to
format a disk as hfs+ using Linux  Evidently this doesn't work, and I
believe it was the source of the problems.

Thanks,
Ric

the result of hpfsch -v:

# hpfsck -v /dev/hdc2
*** Checking Volume Header:
This HFS+ volume is not wrapped.
signature   : +H
version : 4
attributes  : 0X100
last_mount_vers : xL+H
reserved: 0
create_date : Wed Mar 23 15:44:21 2005
modify_date : Thu Sep  1 12:29:17 2005
backup_date : Thu Dec 31 16:00:00 1903
checked_date: Wed Mar 23 23:44:21 2005
file_count  : 5
folder_count: 1
blocksize   : 1000
total_blocks: 2176
free_blocks : 1284
next_alloc  : 531
rsrc_clump_sz   : 65536
data_clump_sz   : 65536
next_cnid   : 228
write_count : 2061
encodings_bmp   : 0
  Allocation file
total_size  : 0X10001
clump_size  : 0
total_blocks: 0
extents : (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0X11000) 
(0X11+0X11) 
  Extension file
total_size  : 0
clump_size  : 0
total_blocks: 0
extents : (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0X11000) (0X22+0X13) 
(0X5ED+0X11) 
  Catalog file
total_size  : 0
clump_size  : 0
total_blocks: 0
extents : (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) 
  Attribute file
total_size  : 0
clump_size  : 0
total_blocks: 0
extents : (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) (0+0) 
  Start file
total_size  : 0
clump_size  : 0
total_blocks: 0
extents : (0+0) (0+0) (0X400+0XEA850408) (0X48280240+0X8C00408) 
(0X+0X70F7FFBF) (0X400+0XEA850408) (0X48280240+0X8C00408) 
(0X+0X70F7FFBF) 
Volume was last Mounted by hfsplus kernel module: 
xL+H
Invalid total blocks 880, expected 0
Done ***
*** Checking Backup Volume Header:
Unexpected Volume signature '  ' expected 'H+'
hpfsck: hpfsck: This is not a HFS+ volume (Unknown error 4294967295)



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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:10:19PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Do you want to use `at' ?
> 
That seems a bit kludgy.  I suppose I could always do `at now + 1 min`
or something like that.

-Roberto

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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 03:38:35PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote:
> On 9/1/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > However, when I log out of the machine, the ssh process on my local
> > machine blocks.  I guess that it is becuase the remote still has jobs
> > running.  Is there a way to get it start the process in the background
> > and then detach from the shell?  I have already tried this:
> 
> ssh -f should do what you want, and then you don't need to send the
> "&". ssh will still be running, but it will be forked off into the
> background.

Good call.  I had forgotten about that.  I occasionally use it start an
xterm or something on a remote machine and it had slipped my mind.

-Roberto

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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 12:20:10AM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:44:46 EDT, "Roberto C. Sanchez" writes:
> >> If you don't care as much about your ssh session as the command running 
> >>  on, `man nohup`.
> 
> >That wasn't it.  I still had to kill the ssh process on my local
> >machine after starting the remote process.
> 
> Of course that wasn't it. The `nohup` just makes your "command" survive
>  the closing of your ssh session.

OK.  I misunderstood your suggestion :-)

The program survives closing the ssh session, since I kill the ssh
process on the local machine, while the process remians running on the
remote machine.

-Roberto

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Netware login from linux without IPX

[Joel Peter William Pitt]

Hi all,

I was wondering if anybody knew how to get Netware interoperability in
linux working when the network uses TCP/IP instead of IPX for
communication?

All the netware tools I have (nprint, slist, pqlist), and that other
people reference only seem to support IPX. I'm specifically interested
in just getting printing working, other aspects of the netware network
aren't that important for me.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Joel

Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[David Kirchner]

On 9/1/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, when I log out of the machine, the ssh process on my local
> machine blocks.  I guess that it is becuase the remote still has jobs
> running.  Is there a way to get it start the process in the background
> and then detach from the shell?  I have already tried this:

ssh -f should do what you want, and then you don't need to send the
"&". ssh will still be running, but it will be forked off into the
background.

Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Paul Stolp]

* Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-01 16:45]:
> Is there a way to get it start the process in the background
> and then detach from the shell? 

I use "screen" for these sorts of things


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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Jerome BENOIT]

Do you want to use `at' ?

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:52:18PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You could do this:
nohup $command

But I always usea trick I find works with bash, so when your in a 
bash shell do this:


#start another bash shell
bash
#start your background job
command &
#exit the subshell
exit
#exit your ssh connection
exit

That should work.
- D


Surprisingly, it does not work :-(

-Roberto



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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Robert Waldner]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:44:46 EDT, "Roberto C. Sanchez" writes:
>> If you don't care as much about your ssh session as the command running 
>>  on, `man nohup`.

>That wasn't it.  I still had to kill the ssh process on my local
>machine after starting the remote process.

Of course that wasn't it. The `nohup` just makes your "command" survive
 the closing of your ssh session.

cheers,
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Re: proxy on synaptic

[Joel Peter William Pitt]

On 9/1/05, Franco Gorziglia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
2005/9/1, belahcene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> Hi,> I haven't a direct access to the net, I go thru a proxy,> synaptic gives the possibility to put the proxy server,
> but there is no input for username and passwd, which required when I try> to update.> thanks for help> bela>One solution is create or edit the file /etc/apt/apt.conf ans add the line:
Acquire::http::Proxy "http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8080";Where you have to put your own user and pass, and the right addressand port of the proxy

Following from that, you could probably specify the proxy in Synaptic using the same format.



Joel

Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:52:18PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You could do this:
> nohup $command
> 
> But I always usea trick I find works with bash, so when your in a 
> bash shell do this:
> 
> #start another bash shell
> bash
> #start your background job
> command &
> #exit the subshell
> exit
> #exit your ssh connection
> exit
> 
> That should work.
>  - D
Surprisingly, it does not work :-(

-Roberto

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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[dking]

You could do this:
nohup $command

But I always usea trick I find works with bash, so when your in a 
bash shell do this:

#start another bash shell
bash
#start your background job
command &
#exit the subshell
exit
#exit your ssh connection
exit

That should work.
 - D

On 1 Sep 2005 at 17:33, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

> I occasionally log into a machine remotely and start a process in the
> background:
> 
> command &
> 
> However, when I log out of the machine, the ssh process on my local
> machine blocks.  I guess that it is becuase the remote still has jobs
> running.  Is there a way to get it start the process in the background
> and then detach from the shell?  I have already tried this:
> 
> exec command &
> 
> However, it results in the same behavior.  It is really a bit annoying
> to have to kill the ssh process on my end to terminate the connection.
> I really should be able to do something that lets me logout normally.
> 
> -Roberto
> 
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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:38:50PM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:33:28 EDT, "Roberto C. Sanchez" writes:
> >command &
> >
> >However, when I log out of the machine, the ssh process on my local
> >machine blocks.
> 
> If you don't care as much about your ssh session as the command running 
>  on, `man nohup`.
That wasn't it.  I still had to kill the ssh process on my local
machine after starting the remote process.

-Roberto

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Re: Starting background process in ssh session

[Robert Waldner]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:33:28 EDT, "Roberto C. Sanchez" writes:
>command &
>
>However, when I log out of the machine, the ssh process on my local
>machine blocks.

If you don't care as much about your ssh session as the command running 
 on, `man nohup`.

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Starting background process in ssh session

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

I occasionally log into a machine remotely and start a process in the
background:

command &

However, when I log out of the machine, the ssh process on my local
machine blocks.  I guess that it is becuase the remote still has jobs
running.  Is there a way to get it start the process in the background
and then detach from the shell?  I have already tried this:

exec command &

However, it results in the same behavior.  It is really a bit annoying
to have to kill the ssh process on my end to terminate the connection.
I really should be able to do something that lets me logout normally.

-Roberto

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Re: Lost Labyrinth

[Markus Döbele]

Hy Alex,

Thanx for the information.
I read it and just submitted a RFP.

I hope that I find somebody that can help me.

Markus

Am Donnerstag, 1. September 2005 21:49 schrieb Alexander Schmehl:
> Hi Markus!
>
> * Markus Döbele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050830 23:06]:
> > I had a look at this page, but its for submitting bugs.
> > I don't understand what that has to to with each other.
> >
> > I need someone that helps me doing a Debian package and do not want to
> > report a bug.
> >
> > Confused
>
> [ 35 lines unecessary quote deleted, please do us a favour and read
>   http://learn.to/quote/ ]
>
> Yes, Debian uses a "virtual" package called "wnpp" (work needing and
> prospective packages) to coordinate who is working on which software.
>
> So if you wan't to tell us "Please include this peace of softwaer" the
> standard way is to report a bug against this wnpp package, with "RFP"
> (request for package) in the subject.
> It's explained in detail here: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#l2
> To avoid unnecessary questions, you should mention which programming
> language you used, and that the compiler for that language is not free
> according to Debians definition of free software.
>
> If you want to package it yourself, read the New Maintainers FAQ at
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html and ask
> further questions on the debian-mentors list
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/
>
>
> Yours sincerely,
>   Alexander

Re: open /dev/sequencer: No such device

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:25:15PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> I have two machines.  One machine is a laptop with a Yamaha sound card.
> The other is a desktop with nForce2 audio.  Both have the required ALSA
> drivers loaded, including all the oss legacy emulation modules.  When
> starting Battle for Wesnoth on the laptop, it gives the error "open
> /dev/sequencer: No such device" but sound plays.  On the desktop, the
> same error displays, but I get no sound.  Any ideas why that is?  On the
> desktop I know that audio works since I can play CDs and movies in xine
> with sound.
> 
I forgot to mention that both machines run udev and have the
/dev/sequencer device present.

-Roberto

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open /dev/sequencer: No such device

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

I have two machines.  One machine is a laptop with a Yamaha sound card.
The other is a desktop with nForce2 audio.  Both have the required ALSA
drivers loaded, including all the oss legacy emulation modules.  When
starting Battle for Wesnoth on the laptop, it gives the error "open
/dev/sequencer: No such device" but sound plays.  On the desktop, the
same error displays, but I get no sound.  Any ideas why that is?  On the
desktop I know that audio works since I can play CDs and movies in xine
with sound.

-Roberto

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Re: Problem with the setup process

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Raj M wrote:
I am a newbee to the linux system. 


In order to have debian as my OS, I downlaoded from
the debain website, the stable 3.1 version. I
completed the installation as per the debian setup.
Now after rebooting and entering the login and pwd
information, I get the following information. 


"Debian GNU/Linux comes with absolutely no warranty,
to the extent permitted by applicable law. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$"


I am stuck after this message. What should I do next?
I couldn't find any tips/direction in the Debian book
that I have with me.



I may be mistaken, but I thought somewhere in the install process it 
mentions to use tasksel.


From the prompt that you were on: tasksel

That will give you the option of installing environments that you want.

H


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Re: etch netinstall

[Alan Ianson]

On Thu September 1 2005 09:29 am, Ivan Glushkov wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>  I just tried to install Debian etch using netinstall on my home PC. I
> always did it that way.. OK, when it did not find my network card I was
> not surprised (I made an additional CD with kernel 2.6.13 and the LAN
> divers from Marvell planning to upgrade the kernel, install the network
> driver and then continue with the installation), but I do not know what to
> do after I got the message that tha main system cannot be installed. What
> does it mean? zsh: no matches found: (I made an additional CD with kernel
> 2.6.13 and the LAN divers from Marvell).Do I have to download the whole 14
> CDs and install it from there? (btw., I never understood why there are no
> DVD images for Debian)

There are dvd images of Sarge. I would install the base sarge and then once 
it's up and running edit /etc/apt/sources.list to testing and apt-get update, 
then apt-get upgrade, then apt-get dist-upgrade.

This has always worked for me. I've tried the testing install iso's a couple 
times and have not had good luck with them for unknown reasons, but upgrading 
from sarge has worked well (for me anyway YMMV).


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Help with starting Totem

[[KS]]

Hi all,

Whenever I try to start Totem, it gives me an error "OSS device /dev/dsp
is already in use by another program." and quits. How can I get it to work?

All other sound applications like xine, xmms, etc work fine and don't
complain about /dev/dsp being busy.

/KS


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Re: Lost Labyrinth

[Alexander Schmehl]

Hi Markus!

* Markus Döbele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050830 23:06]:
> I had a look at this page, but its for submitting bugs.
> I don't understand what that has to to with each other.
> 
> I need someone that helps me doing a Debian package and do not want to report 
> a bug.
> 
> Confused
[ 35 lines unecessary quote deleted, please do us a favour and read
  http://learn.to/quote/ ]

Yes, Debian uses a "virtual" package called "wnpp" (work needing and
prospective packages) to coordinate who is working on which software.

So if you wan't to tell us "Please include this peace of softwaer" the
standard way is to report a bug against this wnpp package, with "RFP"
(request for package) in the subject.
It's explained in detail here: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#l2
To avoid unnecessary questions, you should mention which programming
language you used, and that the compiler for that language is not free
according to Debians definition of free software.

If you want to package it yourself, read the New Maintainers FAQ at
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html and ask
further questions on the debian-mentors list
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/


Yours sincerely,
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Re: proxy on synaptic

[Franco Gorziglia]

2005/9/1, belahcene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
> I haven't a direct access to the net, I go thru a proxy,
> synaptic gives the possibility to put the proxy server,
> but there is no input for username and passwd, which required when I try
> to update.
> thanks for help
> bela
> 

One solution is create or edit the file /etc/apt/apt.conf ans add the line:

Acquire::http::Proxy "http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8080";

Where you have to put your own user and pass, and the right address
and port of the proxy


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Re: Users cannot connect to ftp server

[David Jardine]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:19:45PM +0200, Jacob Friis wrote:
> I have users who was created a long time ago who can connect to my
> server via FTP.
> Now, when I create new users, they cannot connect via FTP.
> I use vsftp on Debian stable.
> Any ideas?

Perhaps you have userlist_enable set, in which case the 
userlist_file needs to be updated.

> 
> Thanks, Jacob
> 

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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Jon Dowland]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:11:40PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I just looked up www.debain-laptop.org and it immediately reffered me
> to www.microsoft.com.  Looks like they're trying to catch people
> who misspell debian and don't know debian is not microsoft.
 
More likely, your browser did a google "I'm Feeling Lucky" or similar.
There is no IP address associated with the host 'www.debain-laptop.org'

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gconfd errors in /var/log/messages

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

Sep  1 14:18:30 localhost gconfd (raju-7859): Resolved address 
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only 
configuration source at position 0
Sep  1 14:18:30 localhost gconfd (raju-7859): Resolved address 
"xml:readwrite:/home/rajulocal/.gconf" to a writable configuration 
source at position 1
Sep  1 14:18:30 localhost gconfd (raju-7859): Resolved address 
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only 
configuration source at position 2



My /var/log/messages are full of errors such as above. I am using 
unstable. Normally I use kde but gnome is also installed on this 
machine. I checked in the BTS againts gconf and could not find any bugs 
listed. What should I do to get rid of these errors?


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chat error: Can't get terminal parameters...

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi Debian!

This is for info.

I forgot that I had changed my USRobotics External Modem to port ttyS0 
and it was still pointing to ttyS1 in pppconfig.


Then chat gives you a confusing message:
Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error

I looked all over the place and finally installed minicom to 
investigate, who told me that /dev/modem doesn't exist. Upon which I 
start looking for what I do use and found the error.


Chat should have said:
There is no modem out there, baby!

H


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kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 upgrade breaks iptables?

[rs]

Debian/sarge
$ uname -a
Linux srv 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Mon Jan 24 03:58:38 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

Hi,

It appears that "kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 2.6.8-13 -> 2.6.8-16" upgrade breaks 
iptables. After upgrade
...
/sbin/modprobe ip_tables
/sbin/modprobe ip_conntrack
/sbin/modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp
/sbin/modprobe iptable_filter
/sbin/modprobe iptable_mangle
/sbin/modprobe iptable_nat
/sbin/modprobe ipt_LOG
/sbin/modprobe ipt_limit
/sbin/modprobe ipt_state
...

results in the following errors:

FATAL: Error inserting ip_conntrack 
(/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack.ko): Unknown 
symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting ip_conntrack 
(/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack.ko): Unknown 
symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
FATAL: Error inserting ip_conntrack_ftp 
(/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_ftp.ko): 
Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting ip_conntrack 
(/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack.ko): Unknown 
symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
FATAL: Error inserting iptable_nat 
(/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_nat.ko): Unknown 
symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting ip_conntrack 
(/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack.ko): Unknown 
symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
FATAL: Error inserting ipt_state 
(/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_state.ko): Unknown 
symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

The kernel upgrade was a part of a larger system upgrade that involved other 
packages. I believe though it's kernel upgrade that's causing iptables to 
break, I think I had the same issue with iptables when I upgraded to 
"kernel-image-2.6-amd64". Had to go back to kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686.

Any ideas? Thanks

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proxy on synaptic

[belahcene]

Hi,
I haven't a direct access to the net, I go thru a proxy,
synaptic gives the possibility to put the proxy server,
but there is no input for username and passwd, which required when I try 
to update.

thanks for help
bela


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Re: mounting large hfsplus partion

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 the mental interface of
Ric Otte told:

[...]
> I have the same lines in my kernel config and mount it using the exact
> same command that you use.  I read the doc you
> suggested, but it seems to be only about the hfs filesystem and not
> the hfs+ filesystem.

Hmmm, try:
$ hpmount /dev/hdc2
*** bla
*** blo
y 
$ hpumount
hpumount: destroy: bli
$ mount -t hfsplus /dev/hdc2 /HFS

Elimar


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Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

[Guido Heumann]

Am Mittwoch, 31. August 2005 21:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[...]
> I wasn't asking whether there's an official Debian package
> for the Sun Java.  I knew that's impossible exactly for the reason
> you explain.  What I was asking was whether there are _free_ Java
> components usable as a browser plugin and if there are, which Debian
> package contains them.
>
> Well, I didn't explicitly say that, but I mentioned the standard Debian
> way, which usually means that you use official _free_ Debian packages
> if possible.

I think you might get the info you want from this mail
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg2.html

or perhaps from the Debian Java Wiki:
http://java.debian.net/

cheers,
Guido


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move from ide to scsi

[Rodney Richison]

Am attemping to move from an ide drive to a scsi drive.
Before moving I did modprobe megaraid.
Then after ghosting I fixed grub.
Now I get this right after it appeas to be looking for ide stuff.
I edited fstab to be sda rather than hda


426:cannot open /dev/console: No such file
Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!

Do you think it may be because the megaraid I did with modprobe rather 
than build add it to the kernel which I don't know how to do yet?


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Re: mounting large hfsplus partion

[Ric Otte]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 06:07:44PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 the mental interface of
> Ric Otte told:
> 
> [...]
> > I have hfsplus and hfsutils installed, so that isn't the problem.
> > I now wonder if Linux supports reading HFS+ filesystems, but not
> > writing to them, and that is causing this phenomena.  
> 
> $ mount -t hfsplus /dev/hfspluspartiotion /mountpoint works great on
> my powerbook.
> 
> Kernel config:
> CONFIG_HFS_FS=m
> CONFIG_HFSPLUS_FS=m
> 
> Read kernel-source/Documentation/filesystems/hfs.txt
> 
> Elimar

I have the same lines in my kernel config and mount it using the exact
same command that you use.  I read the doc you
suggested, but it seems to be only about the hfs filesystem and not
the hfs+ filesystem.
Thanks,
Ric


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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Philip Schwartz]

Yeah it is debian-laptop.org, but the site is not going to be up until
9/15 now because of hosting problems.

> On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:51:19AM -0400, Philip Schwartz wrote:
>> Sorry for the confusion, The flash site is not the debain-laptop.org
>> site.
> ^^
>
> I just looked up www.debain-laptop.org and it immediately reffered me
> to www.microsoft.com.  Looks like they're trying to catch people
> who misspell debian and don't know debian is not microsoft.
>
> Did you mean debian-laptop, perhaps?  debian-laptop.org just
> tells me
>
> Forbidden
> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
>
> which is a much nicer message to get from a nascent site.
>
> -- hendrik
>
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Problem with xdm

[Tim Bedding]

xdm shows a box with
Login:
Password:

However, the words Login and Password seem to be in a smaller
font than I would expect.

Can anyone think why this would be? Might I be missing a font
package?

I have
  xfonts-100dpi
  xfonts-75dpi
  xfonts-base
  xfonts-pex
  xfonts-scalable

packages installed and am running sarge.

Regards
Tim

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Re: Re: Sarge Sound Issues

[Ben Alls]

kde uses oss by default, try to set arts to use ALSA in 
the KControl panel. go to sound options, and advanced (i think) to change the 
driver to alsa rather than oss. if that doesnt work, try un-installin alsa and 
adding snd-mixer-oss and snd-pcm-oss to you /etc/modules file. it worked for me. 
i have the same sound card :) another hint dont use kde or gnome 
:P

Re: How do I create my own package revision

[John Smith]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:04:18 -0400
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:59:05PM +0200, John Smith wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > how do I create my own package revision from a "package-1.0-1_i386.deb"
> > to "package-1.0-1myown_i386.deb" ?
> > 
> > Specifically, I want to recompile snmpd with other than the compiled in
> > defaults, which I already can, but I can't find the #$%*! revision number. 
> > I think
> > the debian directory to be the most likely place, but where?
> > 
> 
> Read my package customization HOWTO:
> 
> http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/?page=debcustomize
> 
> -Roberto
> 
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Thank you, Roberto.

Sincerly,

Jan.


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Re: etch netinstall

[Andrew Sackville-West]

Ivan Glushkov wrote:

Hi all,

 I just tried to install Debian etch using netinstall on my home PC. I
always did it that way.. OK, when it did not find my network card I was
not surprised (I made an additional CD with kernel 2.6.13 and the LAN
divers from Marvell planning to upgrade the kernel, install the network
driver and then continue with the installation), but I do not know what to
do after I got the message that tha main system cannot be installed. What does 
it mean?



saw a similar problem with etch over debootstrap. there is a dependency 
problem with libslang2 not being installed. is it possible the same 
install scripts and same problem?


A

Cheers,
Ivan





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etch netinstall

[Ivan Glushkov]

Hi all,

 I just tried to install Debian etch using netinstall on my home PC. I
always did it that way.. OK, when it did not find my network card I was
not surprised (I made an additional CD with kernel 2.6.13 and the LAN
divers from Marvell planning to upgrade the kernel, install the network
driver and then continue with the installation), but I do not know what to
do after I got the message that tha main system cannot be installed. What does 
it mean?
zsh: no matches found: (I made an additional CD with kernel 2.6.13 and the
LAN divers from Marvell).Do I have to download the whole 14 CDs and install it
from there? (btw., I never understood why there are no DVD images for
Debian)
Cheers,
Ivan


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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Hendrik Boom]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:51:19AM -0400, Philip Schwartz wrote:
> Sorry for the confusion, The flash site is not the debain-laptop.org site.
^^
 
I just looked up www.debain-laptop.org and it immediately reffered me
to www.microsoft.com.  Looks like they're trying to catch people
who misspell debian and don't know debian is not microsoft.

Did you mean debian-laptop, perhaps?  debian-laptop.org just
tells me

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.

which is a much nicer message to get from a nascent site.

-- hendrik


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Re: mounting large hfsplus partion

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 the mental interface of
Ric Otte told:

[...]
> I have hfsplus and hfsutils installed, so that isn't the problem.
> I now wonder if Linux supports reading HFS+ filesystems, but not
> writing to them, and that is causing this phenomena.  

$ mount -t hfsplus /dev/hfspluspartiotion /mountpoint works great on
my powerbook.

Kernel config:
CONFIG_HFS_FS=m
CONFIG_HFSPLUS_FS=m

Read kernel-source/Documentation/filesystems/hfs.txt

Elimar


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Re: How do I create my own package revision

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:59:05PM +0200, John Smith wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
>   how do I create my own package revision from a "package-1.0-1_i386.deb"
> to "package-1.0-1myown_i386.deb" ?
> 
>   Specifically, I want to recompile snmpd with other than the compiled in
> defaults, which I already can, but I can't find the #$%*! revision number. I 
> think
> the debian directory to be the most likely place, but where?
> 

Read my package customization HOWTO:

http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/?page=debcustomize

-Roberto

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How do I create my own package revision

[John Smith]

Hi All,

how do I create my own package revision from a "package-1.0-1_i386.deb"
to "package-1.0-1myown_i386.deb" ?

Specifically, I want to recompile snmpd with other than the compiled in
defaults, which I already can, but I can't find the #$%*! revision number. I 
think
the debian directory to be the most likely place, but where?

Sincerely,

Jan.


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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Philip Schwartz]

Sorry for the confusion, The flash site is not the debain-laptop.org site.
The server it was on is having a few problems. I will have it fixed and
the site up by the 15th.

Sorry everyone.

--Philip

> Derek Wueppelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I would have to agree. I'm not a fan of flash to begin with, but to
>> rely on it for navigation, especially with no alternative, that's a
>> bit much to ask users who are just looking for information to cope
>> with. Just an opinion though.
>
> Using flash for navigation also excludes users of text based browsers,
> many of which, myself included, are blind or vision impaired.
>
>>
>
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Re: mounting large hfsplus partion

[Ric Otte]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:35:08AM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 the mental interface of
> Ric Otte told:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have a 300gb drive that I separated into two 150gb partitions: one
> > hfsplus (for macs to backup to) and one ext3.  I formatted the hfsplus
> > partion on a mac, but when I mount it using mount -thfsplus /dev/hdc2
> > /HFS, the partion does not show up being anywhere near 150gb; instead
> > it shows up as being 8.5mb with 3.4mb of that being used by the simple
> > partitioning.  I tried to copy data to this partition, but it fills up
> > immediately.  Does anyone know how to mount a hfs+ partition and get
> > access to the whole partition?  Thanks,
> 
> apt-cache show hfsplus
> apt-cache show hfsutils
> 
> Elimar

I have hfsplus and hfsutils installed, so that isn't the problem.
I now wonder if Linux supports reading HFS+ filesystems, but not
writing to them, and that is causing this phenomena.  

My initial plan was to have a HFS+ partition so that mac users could
use rsync to backup to it, without losing their resource forks.  Now
I'm beginning to think that may not work.

Thanks,
Ric


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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Robert D. Crawford]

Derek Wueppelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would have to agree. I'm not a fan of flash to begin with, but to
> rely on it for navigation, especially with no alternative, that's a
> bit much to ask users who are just looking for information to cope
> with. Just an opinion though.

Using flash for navigation also excludes users of text based browsers,
many of which, myself included, are blind or vision impaired.

> 

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Re: oggenc doesn't recognize my WAV

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:06:05AM -0300, Michael Crawford wrote:
> I have some WAV files of my piano compositions that I wan't to convert to ogg 
> vorbis with oggenc.  But when I try I get the following message:
> 
> "ERROR: Wav file is unsupported subformat (must be 8,16, or 24 bit PCM
> or floating point PCM"
> 
> Here's what the file command says about my WAV file:
> 
> "Michael David Crawford - Geometric Visions - 1 - Emergence.wav: RIFF 
> (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44100 Hz"
> 
Odd.  I have a wave file that shows up exactly the same as yours:

RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo
44100 Hz

I just converted it to a .ogg last night without a hitch.

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Users cannot connect to ftp server

[Jacob Friis]

I have users who was created a long time ago who can connect to my
server via FTP.
Now, when I create new users, they cannot connect via FTP.
I use vsftp on Debian stable.
Any ideas?

Thanks, Jacob

Gnome panel already running - error message

[Preston Boyington]

After a recent update (I am running Unstable) I receive an error message at 
GNOME startup that states that there is already a panel running.  Once GNOME 
finishes starting it offers me a box to "ok", but how can I tell it to only 
open one panel to begin with?  Where do I edit this configuration?

Thanks,
Preston

Re: xorg + xinerama - but on an on-demand basis

[Hendrik Boom]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 03:46:45PM +0200, Kai Grossjohann wrote:
> You could start two instances of the X server, each running one
> instance of gdm.  One would be running on vty7, one on vty8, and you
> could switch between them with Ctrl-Alt-F7 and Ctrl-Alt-F8.

I tried that.  It didn't work.  gdm detected that it was already running
and wouldn't atart again.

> I don't know how to tweak the gdm setup to start two of them.

Here's what did work for me.  Somewhere in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf you find a line

0=Standard

Replace it by

0=Standard
1=Standard
2=Standard

and you'll have three virtual consoles, each with its own gdm login prompt.
You'll probably have to restart gdm so it reads the configuration again.
Rebooting accomplishes this.

-- hendrik

> 
> Kai
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Marc Koschewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: xorg + xinerama - but on an on-demand basis
> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user
> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:17:56 +0200
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I've been searching the Net a couple of times for now but I didn't find a
> solution to my 'problem'. The thing is I use my mobile at home and at
> work. At home I usually only use my laptop monitor only whereas I use a
> TFT screen at work. When I start X 'by hand' (without gdm on boot) I may
> use the Xinerama layout using the '-layout' parameter. But how can one
> achieve that using gdm? gdm just starts the default layout which is the
> non-Xinerama one (as a save bet). Does anyone have any hint how to make
> gdm 'detect' the laptop has a second monitor attached? Maybe by some
> sort of script in my $HOME dir or something? Any hint would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> Rrgards,
> Marc
> 
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Re: Messaging Users

[Paul Johnson]

On Thursday 01 September 2005 02:27 am, Ms Linuz wrote:

> >And with that, I say what's wrong with running your own jabber server and
> >using Psi?
>
> 100% Agree.
> Even I prefer eJabberd server with client using Gaim or Kopete ;-)

Gah!  How can you stand to use Jabber when you only use clients that don't 
have proper service discovery?


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help: self compiled kernel reboot problem: unable to mount root fs on unknow

[weiyun lv]

VFS: cann't open root device "hda2" or unknown-block(0,0)
Please append a correct "root=" boot option.
Kernel Panic -not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown 
-block(0,0)


hello, I am a newbie and I just installed sarge and want to work on it, 
trying to write a device driver for an IO card. Today I

1. download kernel source 2.6.10 from kernel.org
2. reconfig the kernel, disable module versioning, and enable most of 
kernel-hacking options.

3. use the following command to recompile and install the new kernel:
 # make-kpkg clean
 # make-kpkg --append-to-version=.0901 kernel-image
 # cd /usr/src
 # dkpg -i kernel-image-2.6.10.0901_10.00.Custom_i386.deb
4. after installation the menu.lst reads as: kernel 2.6 boot with the above 
error message and kernel2.4 can boot successfully.

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title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.10.0901
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10.0901 root=/dev/hda2 ro
savedefault
boot

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.27-2-386
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-386
savedefault
boot
==

PS: 1. I have met this problem on ubuntu too and haven't resolved it yet.
2. maybe something wrong with my kernel configuration and can anybody 
provide some material for this.

3. I use ext2 file system.



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Re: Apache2 & MySQL

[Ben Bettin]

> Yeah I have everything installed that I need -- Did PHP4-MySQL get enabled
> automatically for you, or did you have to add the module manually to
> 'apache2.dconf' ? What syntax does the apache2.conf file use for this module ?

In addition, I don't think you even have to tell apache2 about mysql. 
There's no direct relationship/interface between apach2 and mysql,
it's inferred from both their relationships with php4.

libapache2-mod-php4 tells apache2 about php4 and how to "talk" to it. 
php4-mysql tells php4 about mysql and how to "talk" to it.  I don't
think apache2 even needs to know about mysql, php4 takes care of it
all.  Although I could be wrong?

Ben

Re: Apache2 & MySQL

[Ben Bettin]

Everything was automatic.

/etc/apache2/apache2.conf - didn't even touch it

/etc/apache2/sites-available/default - edited it to limit access to my
sites (think of it as apache's own personal firewall)

/etc/php4/apache2/php.ini - edited it to enable register_globals (yeah
it's not overly secure, but I havn't converted one of the sites yet)

/etc/mysql/my.cnf - edited it to comment out the bind-address line so
that the mysql server would accept outside connections.

Ben

On 9/1/05, Steve Å <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:41:42AM -0400 or thereabouts, Ben Bettin wrote:
> > I just reinstalled my LAMP (Linux/Apache/Mysql/PHP) development server
> > at my office.  I'm keeping track of -everything- I do while setting it
> > up so my coworkers can have some idea how to do it themselves.  I
> > installed the following packages (selected via aptitude), and then
> > installed any "recommended" packages as well.
> >
> > apache2-mpm-prefork
> > libapache2-mod-php4
> > php4
> > php4-cli
> > php4-mysql
> > mysql-client
> > mysql-server
> >
> > That assortment of packages should do it for you, and allow you to use
> > php4 and mysql at the command line as well.  The rest comes down to
> > setting up the config files for each of them;
> > /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini for php4, /etc/mysql/my.cnf for mysql,
> > /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/apache2/sites-available/default for
> > apache2.
> 
> Hello Ben:
> 
> Yeah I have everything installed that I need -- Did PHP4-MySQL get enabled
> automatically for you, or did you have to add the module manually to
> 'apache2.dconf' ? What syntax does the apache2.conf file use for this module ?
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Apache2 & MySQL

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Steve Å wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Ben:
> 
> Yeah I have everything installed that I need -- Did PHP4-MySQL get enabled
> automatically for you, or did you have to add the module manually to
> 'apache2.dconf' ? What syntax does the apache2.conf file use for this module ?
> 

It's not the apache config you need to edit. It's the
/etc/php4/apache(2)?/php4.ini file, add check to see if there is a
`extension=mysql.so' line there. If not, add it.

> 
> Thanks.
> 


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Re: Best way to apt update the kernel from 2.6.8 to on server running sarge?

[Matt Zagrabelny]

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 02:11 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a number of servers that I have running Sarge. The stable repository 
> does  not have later kernels than 2.6.8.
> 
> what is the best way "debian" to get the later kernels onto my servers? 
> 

i dont know what the *best* way is, but you could:

1) download whatever kernel source you want from kernel.org
2) untar it, and copy the /boot/config-2.6.8- to the source
directory
3) make oldconfig
4) fakeroot make-kpkg clean
5) fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=.20050901.0 kernel_image
6) dpkg -i kernel-image.deb

-matt zagrabelny


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Re: xorg + xinerama - but on an on-demand basis

[Kai Grossjohann]

You could start two instances of the X server, each running one
instance of gdm.  One would be running on vty7, one on vty8, and you
could switch between them with Ctrl-Alt-F7 and Ctrl-Alt-F8.

I don't know how to tweak the gdm setup to start two of them.

Kai

-Original Message-
From: Marc Koschewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xorg + xinerama - but on an on-demand basis
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:17:56 +0200
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Hi folks,

I've been searching the Net a couple of times for now but I didn't find a
solution to my 'problem'. The thing is I use my mobile at home and at
work. At home I usually only use my laptop monitor only whereas I use a
TFT screen at work. When I start X 'by hand' (without gdm on boot) I may
use the Xinerama layout using the '-layout' parameter. But how can one
achieve that using gdm? gdm just starts the default layout which is the
non-Xinerama one (as a save bet). Does anyone have any hint how to make
gdm 'detect' the laptop has a second monitor attached? Maybe by some
sort of script in my $HOME dir or something? Any hint would be greatly
appreciated.

Rrgards,
Marc


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oggenc doesn't recognize my WAV

[Michael Crawford]

I have some WAV files of my piano compositions that I wan't to convert 
to ogg vorbis with oggenc.  But when I try I get the following message:


"ERROR: Wav file is unsupported subformat (must be 8,16, or 24 bit PCM
or floating point PCM"

Here's what the file command says about my WAV file:

"Michael David Crawford - Geometric Visions - 1 - Emergence.wav: RIFF 
(little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44100 Hz"


I always thought WAVE files came in RIFF containers.  I know that I've 
always been able to play the files in all the players I've ever tried.


How could I convert it to a supported format? It would be unpleasant to 
have to redigitize the file, as my master is an analog tape, and I'd 
have to hook my tape deck up to my Mac to recapture it.  It's hard to 
get it right.  I captured my WAV files years ago under the Classic Mac OS.


(I just placed my MP3s under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 
2.5 license.  You can download them from 
http://www.geometricvisions.com/music/  I'll post oggs as soon as I can 
encode them.  It's just taken me a long time to get around to it.)


Thanks for your help,

Michael D. Crawford
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Re: Apache2 & MySQL

[Steve Å]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:41:42AM -0400 or thereabouts, Ben Bettin wrote:
> I just reinstalled my LAMP (Linux/Apache/Mysql/PHP) development server
> at my office.  I'm keeping track of -everything- I do while setting it
> up so my coworkers can have some idea how to do it themselves.  I
> installed the following packages (selected via aptitude), and then
> installed any "recommended" packages as well.
> 
> apache2-mpm-prefork
> libapache2-mod-php4
> php4
> php4-cli
> php4-mysql
> mysql-client
> mysql-server
> 
> That assortment of packages should do it for you, and allow you to use
> php4 and mysql at the command line as well.  The rest comes down to
> setting up the config files for each of them;
> /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini for php4, /etc/mysql/my.cnf for mysql,
> /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/apache2/sites-available/default for
> apache2.

Hello Ben:

Yeah I have everything installed that I need -- Did PHP4-MySQL get enabled
automatically for you, or did you have to add the module manually to
'apache2.dconf' ? What syntax does the apache2.conf file use for this module ?


Thanks.

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[Ben Bettin]

I just reinstalled my LAMP (Linux/Apache/Mysql/PHP) development server
at my office.  I'm keeping track of -everything- I do while setting it
up so my coworkers can have some idea how to do it themselves.  I
installed the following packages (selected via aptitude), and then
installed any "recommended" packages as well.

apache2-mpm-prefork
libapache2-mod-php4
php4
php4-cli
php4-mysql
mysql-client
mysql-server

That assortment of packages should do it for you, and allow you to use
php4 and mysql at the command line as well.  The rest comes down to
setting up the config files for each of them;
/etc/php4/apache2/php.ini for php4, /etc/mysql/my.cnf for mysql,
/etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/apache2/sites-available/default for
apache2.

I also installed phpmyadmin because I like administering things
remotely, and php4-sybase because some of the sites I develop connect
to an mssql database on another server.

Ben

On 9/1/05, Steve Å <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm familiar with how Apache 1.3.x is to be setup, but confess I don't
> understand Apache 2 well.
> 
> I'm doing a new Sarge installation (offsite) on a box which won't be on the
> Internet. I installed Apache 2 and PHP 4. PHP is working fine, however in
> checking my configuration via phpinfo(); I notice that PHP-MySQL isn't 
> enabled.
> I have installed anything related to MySQL and PHP4 found via 'aptitude 
> search'.
> 
> I have searched the archives via Google, I'm not finding anything on how to
> enable MySQL for Apache 2 specifically. Shouldn't this be set up automatically
> when the relevant modules are installed via aptitude ?
> 
> Suggestions ?
> 
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> -- William Shakespeare, "Henry VI"
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Re: Apache2 & MySQL

[Steve Å]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 01:46:56PM +0100 or thereabouts, Dave Ewart wrote:
> On Thursday, 01.09.2005 at 08:14 -0400, Steve Å wrote:
> 
> > I'm familiar with how Apache 1.3.x is to be setup, but confess I don't
> > understand Apache 2 well.
> > 
> > I'm doing a new Sarge installation (offsite) on a box which won't be
> > on the Internet. I installed Apache 2 and PHP 4. PHP is working fine,
> > however in checking my configuration via phpinfo(); I notice that
> > PHP-MySQL isn't enabled.  I have installed anything related to MySQL
> > and PHP4 found via 'aptitude search'.
> > 
> > I have searched the archives via Google, I'm not finding anything on
> > how to enable MySQL for Apache 2 specifically. Shouldn't this be set
> > up automatically when the relevant modules are installed via aptitude?

Hello Dave:

> Specifically, have you installed php4-mysql?

Yes.

> And you've restarted Apache after installing stuff, yes?

Absolutely, 'apache2ctl restart'. I realize that the 'php4-mysql' module
probably isn't linked to my Apache conf. 

Problem is, I'm not familiar with Apache2. I believe I had to do a symlink
manually for this to work in Apache 1.3.x -- I'm not sure how to do this with
Apache2. 

I'll keep digging.

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RE: Exim4 & Mail Headers

[Eric van der Paardt]

> Received: from localhost.localdomain
(camax5-065.dialup.optusnet.com.au
> [203.164.4.65])
> 
> What I don't like is the localhost.localdomain bit, but of course I
don't
> have
> a valid domain that I'm sending from, so what is the correct value to
have
> this set to and where do I set it?

There is a 'qualify_domain' over ride somewhere in exim4, and hacking
exim may be the easiest way to go if you don't understand DNS.

I believe this is just the first value in /etc/hostname (or /etc/hosts
see 'man hostname').  I haven't set up a Linux box with out a DNS PTR
record in so long I could be wrong, but I believe you could set this
with a line similar to this.

hostname.domain.lan hostname {Public IP}
localhost.localdomain localhost 127.0.0.1

Now of course you would have to write this line from your ppp script or
similar every time you connect, but I *think* that would get rid of you
localhost.localdomain problem.

Personally I use ddns on my public server and have myself signed up with
a dynamic dns service.  That way I have real DNS on my public adapter.

Then on my local adapter I just create a BS zone called
{MySMBWorkgroup.lan}, and use a DHCP -> DNS script to keep these records
current.  The nice thing about having everything on your lan have both a
resolvable local address and a stub address on the internet is that it
makes things like iptables rules very dynamic, rather than using client
IP address, you can get away with using the host names, and makes
rulesets and such very readable.

E

xorg + xinerama - but on an on-demand basis

[Marc Koschewski]

Hi folks,

I've been searching the Net a couple of times for now but I didn't find a
solution to my 'problem'. The thing is I use my mobile at home and at
work. At home I usually only use my laptop monitor only whereas I use a
TFT screen at work. When I start X 'by hand' (without gdm on boot) I may
use the Xinerama layout using the '-layout' parameter. But how can one
achieve that using gdm? gdm just starts the default layout which is the
non-Xinerama one (as a save bet). Does anyone have any hint how to make
gdm 'detect' the laptop has a second monitor attached? Maybe by some
sort of script in my $HOME dir or something? Any hint would be greatly
appreciated.

Rrgards,
Marc


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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Ken]

Philip Schwartz wrote:

I am pleased to announce that debian-laptop.org will be the home of the
Debain on Laptops Information and Guide repo.



Doesn't work with Konqueror on FreeBSD :(


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Re: Apache2 & MySQL

[Dave Ewart]

On Thursday, 01.09.2005 at 08:14 -0400, Steve Å wrote:

> I'm familiar with how Apache 1.3.x is to be setup, but confess I don't
> understand Apache 2 well.
> 
> I'm doing a new Sarge installation (offsite) on a box which won't be
> on the Internet. I installed Apache 2 and PHP 4. PHP is working fine,
> however in checking my configuration via phpinfo(); I notice that
> PHP-MySQL isn't enabled.  I have installed anything related to MySQL
> and PHP4 found via 'aptitude search'.
> 
> I have searched the archives via Google, I'm not finding anything on
> how to enable MySQL for Apache 2 specifically. Shouldn't this be set
> up automatically when the relevant modules are installed via aptitude?

Specifically, have you installed php4-mysql?

And you've restarted Apache after installing stuff, yes?

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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Jon Dowland]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 03:43:32PM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
> besides the publication of that link was a bit fast, that site doesn't
> work at all... or maybe its my flash implementation that is no new/old

I don't think that's the site.. I think it's a parking page.

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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Bruno Boettcher]

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:24:17PM -0400, Philip Schwartz wrote:
> I am pleased to announce that debian-laptop.org will be the home of the
> Debain on Laptops Information and Guide repo.
heh isn't a site devoted to free software but build with proprietary
means denying access to whoever doesn't can or want to install flash a
bit ironic?

besides the publication of that link was a bit fast, that site doesn't
work at all... or maybe its my flash implementation that is no new/old
enough?

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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Derek Wueppelmann]

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 08:21 -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:24:17PM -0400, Philip Schwartz wrote..
> 
> > I am pleased to announce that debian-laptop.org will be the home
> > of the Debain on Laptops Information and Guide repo.
> 
> Great idea but way too heavy of a website for me with all that Flash
> and music.  Just my two cents.

I would have to agree. I'm not a fan of flash to begin with, but to rely
on it for navigation, especially with no alternative, that's a bit much
to ask users who are just looking for information to cope with. Just an
opinion though.

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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Kevin Coyner]

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:24:17PM -0400, Philip Schwartz wrote..

> I am pleased to announce that debian-laptop.org will be the home
> of the Debain on Laptops Information and Guide repo.

Great idea but way too heavy of a website for me with all that Flash
and music.  Just my two cents.

Kevin


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Apache2 & MySQL

[Steve Å]

I'm familiar with how Apache 1.3.x is to be setup, but confess I don't
understand Apache 2 well.

I'm doing a new Sarge installation (offsite) on a box which won't be on the
Internet. I installed Apache 2 and PHP 4. PHP is working fine, however in
checking my configuration via phpinfo(); I notice that PHP-MySQL isn't enabled.
I have installed anything related to MySQL and PHP4 found via 'aptitude search'.

I have searched the archives via Google, I'm not finding anything on how to
enable MySQL for Apache 2 specifically. Shouldn't this be set up automatically
when the relevant modules are installed via aptitude ?

Suggestions ?

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Re: subscribe - unsubscribe

[Ken Heard]

I forgot to add that I had not unsubscribed to debian-user-digest, nor 
did I resubscribe to it after I stopped receiving it.  (I subscribed to 
debian-user instead.)  Does debian-user-digest still exist?

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Re: subscribe - unsubscribe

[Ken Heard]

I had the same problem.

  I was subscribed to the debian-user-digest list, but for some reason 
the last digest I received was number 2141 at 01:16 Toronto time on 
2005-08-25. Usually there are five or more digest posts every day; I 
thought it odd that they stopped abruptly when they did.  I also checked 
my Junk folder; they were not there either.


Finally, I re-subscribed to the debian-user list, but this time to 
receive all individual messages, not the digest.  The first such

messages I received at 13:00 on 2005-08-27

So, somehow I managed to miss all posts between 01:16 on 2005-08-25 
and 13:00 on 2005-08-27 -- how I don't know. I can now only conclude 
that there was a server glitch, but nobody is telling.

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Re: Debian-laptop.org

[Jon Dowland]

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:24:17PM -0400, Philip Schwartz wrote:
> I am pleased to announce that debian-laptop.org will be the home of the
> Debain on Laptops Information and Guide repo.

It might be worth trying to get laptop.debian.net CNAME'd onto your
site, once running, if a DD gets involved :)

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Re: RH -> Debian migration breaks CGI script under Apache

[Jon Dowland]

I suggest starting a new message, rather than replying to an unrelated
one, when you are asking a new question. By replying to an unrelated
question your message will appear threaded with the first discussion and
could be passed over by people who may otherwise be able to help you.

Yours,

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Re: Messaging Users

[Ms Linuz]

Paul Johnson wrote:

>On Wednesday 31 August 2005 06:21 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>  
>
>>On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 07:30:24PM -0400, Scott wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Is there a utility like M$'s "Net Send *" that will pop up messages on
>>>connected users' x-sessions?
>>>  
>>>
>>Not by default.  Precisely, becuase it is insanely *stupid* to allow
>>some random host on the network to pop up a window in your GUI.  MS must
>>not have been around when the X protocol was being developed, becuase
>>there are many reasons why things like xauth and magic cookies were
>>developed.  Not the least of which is that you should be in *complete*
>>control of what pops up in *your* session.
>>
>>
>
>And with that, I say what's wrong with running your own jabber server and 
>using Psi?
>
>
>  
>
100% Agree.
Even I prefer eJabberd server with client using Gaim or Kopete ;-)


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