Debian Etch Testing

[Bal K Paudyal]

All DVD video disk don't mount automatically. Can't be mounted manually.
Detected as Blank DVD-RW disk (which is not true).

My system is upgraded. Running i386 Etch in AMD 64 CPU.




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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Mike McCarty]

Paul Johnson wrote:

On Thursday 06 April 2006 07:01, Mike McCarty wrote:



C:\> pkzip -a -ex -p -r some_dir some_dir\*.*
C:\> pkunzip -t some_dir
C:\> deltree/y some_dir



I seem to recall a long time ago that pkzip and pkunzip have an entirely 
different set of flags, all starting with / in DOS.  Consult pk(un)zip /? 
before attempting just in case.


I am quite proficient in the use of pkzip for MSDOS. Switches may begin
either with '-' or with '/', and these are the MSDOS switches.

Here are the meanings of the switches, as given

pkzip:
-a  add files
-ex use extra compression (trade speed for space)
-p  preserve path names
-r  recurse paths, and preserve recursed path names

pkunzip:
-t  test archive for integrity

I didn't suggest -exx (extreme compression) because only the
last version of pkzip for MSDOS had that, and not everyone
got it, as (IIRC) it was not released as shareware.

Note that for Windows it is better to use WinZip since it
can preserve case in file names.

Also, naturally, one should not delete the directories if the
test of the archive fails. I didn't mention that, because it
seemd too self-evident. Perhaps I should have.


By far, the best way to go, if you simply refuse to do a backup,
is simply to buy/borrow/beg/steal another disc and do a copy using
Linux. After all data have been verified correct, reformat the original
disc and copy back. Then return the borrowed disc.



You might want to do a dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/borrowed-disk if you don't 
want the owner knowing what was on the borrowed disk and intend to return it.


I'd think that if=/dev/zero might be just a tad faster, but I suppose
that the action will be I/O bound by the disc anyway. If one is really
worried, though, a simple overwrite is not enough. Partial or even
complete data recovery might be possible. I'm not an expert on
data destruction.

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Re: apt-get, sudo and proxies

[Felipe Sateler]

Ryan Nowakowski wrote:
> There was a security hole found in sudo and the fix was to disallow most
> environment variables:
> http://www.debian.org/security/2006/dsa-946
> 
> - Ryan
Fix it adding env_keep = var_name to your Defaults line in /etc/sudoers.
Notice that var_name doesn't have a dollar sign. Otherwise you can remove
the env_reset, but that is apparently not recommended. Example from
my /etc/sudoers:
Defaultsenv_reset, env_keep = DISPLAY
Here I keep the DISPLAY variable which allows me to launch X based apps
under sudo.
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Re: win-axe clones

[Bill Marcum]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 11:04:47AM -0600, ChadDavis wrote:
> Does anyone know of an open source software that does something similar to
> Win-axe?

What does win-axe do?

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Re: help connecting two debians via dial up

[Bill Marcum]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 05:10:46PM +, enediel gonzalez wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I'm trying to connect two debians using two modems, but I've a 
> misconfiguration on mgetty and ppd that close the connection after I saw a 
> prompt, I need to have the prompt on the second computer.
> 
Which prompt did you see?  The login: prompt or the shell prompt?  Do 
you have "debug" in /etc/ppp/options on both machines?  Can you post the 
relevant lines from /var/log/syslog on both machines?

> 

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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Paul Johnson]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 22:28, Paul Scott wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > One thing to keep in mind: Windows only reads FAT-based or NTFS
> > filesystems. If you're just trying to keep your files from Windows when
> > you move to Linux, move the files you want to keep in My Documents on the
> > Windows box, then just move that off to other media.
>
> Even though it's not native to MS Windows the above is no longer true:
>
> http://www.fs-driver.org/

I tried that a while back, and it trashed the ext2 disk.  Is it usable now?

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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Paul Johnson]

Please use inline quotes.
http://ursine.ca/Top_Posting

On Thursday 06 April 2006 07:16, Mirco Piccin wrote:
> Well, the hd was fat32 formatting 'cause is an external hd!
> A friends give me with same project file inside, and i'd like to convert
> filesystem in one step.

Well, you can speed it up considerably with a live CD.  Then it's just a 
weekend away (get up, start copying, go do something, stop by home in the 
early-mid afternoon, fdisk/mkfs, start copying, take off for the afternoon.  
Get home, make things bootable, and you're done.

> Sure, i've already done a backup copy, and already fdisk & mkfs.ext3 the
> hd! Thanks anyway!

Danger!  Danger, Will Robinson!  I just beat my head against the wall and lost 
much sleep over this trying to get faubackup to work backing things up to my 
new 0.4TB external Seagate hard drive.  mkfs.ext2 was unbelievably slow, 
trying to back up would eventually panic the kernel, mentioning something 
about ext2 or ext3 but scrolling by too fast to see (and I can't scroll back 
after kernel panic on a USB keyboard).  mkfs.ext3 would bomb creating the 
journal (but tune2fs -j worked fine).

It was unbearable.  I bought a firewire card and tried that.  Even tried 
passing the sync option (which has somtimes helped me with removable media in 
the past).  No dice, same problem.

What finally fixed it, as of tonight, was using reiserfs instead.  And with a 
$26 firewire card, it really screams.

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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Paul Johnson]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 07:01, Mike McCarty wrote:

> C:\> pkzip -a -ex -p -r some_dir some_dir\*.*
> C:\> pkunzip -t some_dir
> C:\> deltree/y some_dir

I seem to recall a long time ago that pkzip and pkunzip have an entirely 
different set of flags, all starting with / in DOS.  Consult pk(un)zip /? 
before attempting just in case.

> By far, the best way to go, if you simply refuse to do a backup,
> is simply to buy/borrow/beg/steal another disc and do a copy using
> Linux. After all data have been verified correct, reformat the original
> disc and copy back. Then return the borrowed disc.

You might want to do a dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/borrowed-disk if you don't 
want the owner knowing what was on the borrowed disk and intend to return it.

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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Paul Scott]

Paul Johnson wrote:

Please quote conversationally.
http://ursine.ca/Top_Posting

On Thursday 06 April 2006 01:48, Mirco Piccin wrote:
  

Yes, of course.
But a stupid question as mine was, is finalized to know if is possible
convert the vfat filesystem without backup/copy in other location!!



No, it's not a stupid question, it's a smart question that has a stupid answer 
because of the differences between the filesystems in question.


  

If there's no way to do this, of course i'll backup/copy data before
formatting in ext3 HD!



One thing to keep in mind: Windows only reads FAT-based or NTFS filesystems.  
If you're just trying to keep your files from Windows when you move to Linux, 
move the files you want to keep in My Documents on the Windows box, then just 
move that off to other media.

Even though it's not native to MS Windows the above is no longer true:

http://www.fs-driver.org/

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Re: No shell, Only FTP access

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 21:56 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 23:30 +0200, Øyvind Lode wrote:
> > [snip]
> > 
> >>And yes I considering switching to proftpd but havn't got the time yet 
> >>and I also need to setup my own DNS service using BIND...
> > 
> > 
> > Isn't BIND kinda insecure?
> > 
> 
> In what way?

Old, crufty, written before security was a concern.

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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Paul Johnson]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 05:55, Frank Lanitz wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 06 April 2006 10:48 schrieb Mirco Piccin:
> > But a stupid question as mine was, is finalized to know if is possible
> > convert the vfat filesystem without backup/copy in other location!!
> > If there's no way to do this, of course i'll backup/copy data before
> > formatting in ext3 HD!
>
> Still a real bad idea.
>
> But maybe
> http://bolug.uni-bonn.de/archive/mailinglisten/BoLUG/2003-09/msg00388.html
> gives you some tip.

Thank you Konqueror and your easy to use babelfish menu.  (Tools > Translate 
Web Page > German to > English)

Skimming over the translated suggestions, none of those look like anything I 
would attempt without a backup handy in any case.  Waaay too easy to screw 
up.

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Re: evolution fails to start on Etch

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Wed, 2006-05-04 at 20:00 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> H.S. wrote:
> > For the last few days, I am not able to start evolution, neither by
> > clicking on its icon on KDE panel nor over command line. Command line
> > starting doesn't even give any output. Anyone knows what is going on?
> > Looks like something happened in one of my upgrades within the last week.
> > 
> > I have Debian Etch, kernel 2.6.15, and:
> > {~}> dpkg -l *evolution* | grep ^ii
> > ii  evolution  2.4.2.1-1  The groupware suite
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > ->HS
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> I just noticed that I had a bunch of evolutions processes running (pgrep
> evolution). After killing all of them and trying to start evolution
> again, I get:
> 
> $> evolution
> adding hook target 'source'
> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x08176ad0 ***
> 
> and nothing else happens. I have to kill the started process manually.
> 
> Any idea what could be wrong?
> ->HS
> 
> 

While you can get it working from a command line by prefixing an
environment variable:

$ G_SLICE=always-malloc evolution &

apparently there are packages that should be backed out of to make it
work, but they are superseded in Etch already. The 2.4.2.1-2 is supposed
to be a fix, and the bugs about this are closed as being fixed, but
apparently it isn't. I'm looking to file a bug on this, but I'm still
trying to put enough information together - if you can file one faster,
I encourage you to do so.
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Re: Problem Network and installation of Debian ETCH beta2 for AMD64/EM64T (testing)

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

2) Don't be sent to a shell at the end of the installation, but to the 
GUI (Gnome, KDE, etc) ?

Please see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/324

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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Paul Johnson]

Please quote conversationally.
http://ursine.ca/Top_Posting

On Thursday 06 April 2006 01:48, Mirco Piccin wrote:
> Yes, of course.
> But a stupid question as mine was, is finalized to know if is possible
> convert the vfat filesystem without backup/copy in other location!!

No, it's not a stupid question, it's a smart question that has a stupid answer 
because of the differences between the filesystems in question.

> If there's no way to do this, of course i'll backup/copy data before
> formatting in ext3 HD!

One thing to keep in mind: Windows only reads FAT-based or NTFS filesystems.  
If you're just trying to keep your files from Windows when you move to Linux, 
move the files you want to keep in My Documents on the Windows box, then just 
move that off to other media.

Ob-OS-comparison: Why is it MS thought the registry was a good idea for 
handling multiple user configs, when even history up to that point 
demonstrated otherwise?

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Re: No DVD download

[Paul Johnson]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 05:09, Andre Pannes wrote:
> Dear Sir, Dear Mrs.
>
> Why can I not download the DVD Editon of Debian Sarge ??
>
> Link http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-dvd/
>
> I have loaded this at 2005 on your Ftp Server and it works great now i must
> have a new DVD Editon for Private and Job (There handled better then CD´s).
>
> I DO NOT DOWNLOAD BY TORRENT or JIGDO share Networks.
[...]
> Tell me please some alternate link or make a Download available, please !

You eliminated all economical options for distributing 4-8GB of data at a 
time.

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Problem Network and installation of Debian ETCH beta2 for AMD64/EM64T (testing)

[Alisson Garcia]

Hi.I'm trying to install debian etch beta 2, testing, and the following problems are happening:Apt is now (etch) configured before the reboot, so I can't install my pppoe network connection. When I used to use Sarge I could boot and configure apt just after the reboot. Then I would open a terminal to configure my network connection through "pppoeconf". This command just used to work after the reboot. Now, it's needed before the reboot and it doesn't work even after the reboot when I'm sent to a shell. When I installed sarge in my old 32 bits PC, I could configure apt after the reboot, and I was sent to the GUI at the end, Not to a shell how it's happening now. As far as I could understand all the installation is now done in one stage and not in two stages (like sarge was).Can anyone help me to:1) Configure a pppoe network connection to Debian
 ETCH during the boot, while the installer is running? 2) Don't be sent to a shell at the end of the installation, but to the GUI (Gnome, KDE, etc) ? That's what I need. I hope you guys can help me.Got Debian from:http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta2/amd64/jigdo-dvd/My PC:Asus p5gd2-xGeforce 6800GSSATA 200GB SeagateLG 4167bFloppy 1.44onboard network (disabled. Debian don't recognize my network card)PCI network (Just bought to install debian ETCh. Realtek by Encore 10/100)Pentium 4 EM64T
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Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Hex Star]

/me wonders if your laptop may have died due to some messing around with the fan acpi config? :POn 4/6/06, Jochen Schulz <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Craig M. Houck:>> You don't want the processor fan to stop...at least I would never want fan
> on top of the processor of ANY compuer I used to stop.When you are using a Pentium M processor and have almost no load, it isintended behaviour that the fan doesn't run. That's the whole point ofthis processor: power saving and silence. And it is quite good at it.
To the OP: there are kernel modules to control the fan and there is anoption specifically for Asus as well. If you compile kernels yourselfyou should find it in the ACPI section. I cannot be anymore specific
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Re: downgrading a package

[Christopher Nelson]

On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:48:08AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
> 
> I'm using etch / testing and I did some upgrades (to try to get the
> hotsynch for my handheld working) but things went badly wrong.
> 
> Now I'm trying to owngrade udev to 0.79 from 0.8xx but I can't get
> synaptic to allow me to force the version I need. The menu option is 
> just greyed out.
> 
> How can I enable that menu option ?

I don't know how to use synaptic, but if you download the .deb you can
do a 'dpkg -i --force-downgrade ' and it should install 
the downgraded version.  I'm sure that before you do your next upgrade
via synaptic you should be able to put the package on 'hold' in some
manner to keep it from being upgraded.

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Re: cdrecord + udev

[Christopher Nelson]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 05:29:16PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sarge, before installing udev to be able to run 2.6.16 I invoked 
> cdrecord with dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 and all was well.
> 
> However after udev that does not work anymore. Now cdrecord -scanbus gives:
> 
> Linux sg driver version: 3.5.33
> Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
> scsibus0:
> 0,0,0 0) 'ATA ' 'WDC WD800JD-60LU' '07.0' Disk
> 0,1,0 1) *
> 0,2,0 2) *
> 0,3,0 3) *
> 0,4,0 4) *
> 0,5,0 5) *
> 0,6,0 6) *
> 0,7,0 7) *
> 
> Entry 0,0,0 is the SATA drive. Where is the CDrom drive? I can mount it 
> and look at things on the CD.
> 
> Anybody with udev know the answer?

Just a thought: have you tried using the device name, eg.
dev=/dev/ ?

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Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups

[Matthew R. Dempsky]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:28:59AM +0100, Doofus wrote:
> I'll never accept this reasoning. To my mind it takes openness to a 
> level that just causes unnecessary grief for many legitimate users.

What unnecessary grief?

Take a look through the debian-user archive for March 2006.  Count how 
many spam messages actually hit the list.

Then compare that to how many messages were spent responding to (and 
even translating) the occasional spam, arguing whether fruit is on 
topic, redundantly discussing about petsupermarket, misdirected 
unsubscribe emails, and incessent whining about the openness of the 
lists.


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Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Paul Johnson]

Please post in conversational order for ease of reading and quoting.
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On Thursday 06 April 2006 07:37, Craig M. Houck wrote:
> You don't want the processor fan to stop...at least I would never want fan
> on top of the processor of ANY compuer I used to stop.

Laptops are a special case:  They kick the fan on and off as temperature 
requires, sometimes with variable speeds as it gets hotter or colder.  This 
is done to conserve batteries and reduce noise.

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Debian md5sum

[Brian Irwin]

I have burned the 14 i386 debian CDs a couple of times using my Windows machine, but the md5sum (md5sum -c md5sum.txt) on CD1 keeps telling me there are 17 files whose md5 did not match the md5sum.txt file.
I verified the iso file I burned from is good
Here is the kicker... I took one of my CDs that failed the md5 test and created an ISO using a program called MagicISO. I then compared the MD5 from that ISO with the MD5 from Debian's site and it matched!
Am I doing something wrong? It appears the MD5 numbers for CD1 in the md5sum.txt are incorrect.

cdrecord + udev

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi,

On Sarge, before installing udev to be able to run 2.6.16 I invoked 
cdrecord with dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 and all was well.


However after udev that does not work anymore. Now cdrecord -scanbus gives:

Linux sg driver version: 3.5.33
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'ATA ' 'WDC WD800JD-60LU' '07.0' Disk
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *

Entry 0,0,0 is the SATA drive. Where is the CDrom drive? I can mount it 
and look at things on the CD.


Anybody with udev know the answer?

Thanks!

H


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Re: No shell, Only FTP access

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 23:30 +0200, Øyvind Lode wrote:
> [snip]
> 
>>And yes I considering switching to proftpd but havn't got the time yet 
>>and I also need to setup my own DNS service using BIND...
> 
> 
> Isn't BIND kinda insecure?
> 

In what way?

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Re: No shell, Only FTP access

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 23:30 +0200, Øyvind Lode wrote:
[snip]
> And yes I considering switching to proftpd but havn't got the time yet 
> and I also need to setup my own DNS service using BIND...

Isn't BIND kinda insecure?

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Re: netbeans and sid.

[Ryan Nowakowski]

On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:51:21PM -0700, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> I had installed netbeans 5 in sarge without any problem. Now in Sid, I
> tried to install netbeans-5_0-linux.bin. But I couldn't. I have set
> both JAVAHOME and JAVA_HOME to jdk1.5. I checked md5sum. It is ok. I
> tried as
> ./netbeans-5_0-linux.bin
> sudo sh netbeans-5_0-linux.bin. All failed. I got bunch of error messages
> netbeans-5_0-linux.bin: line 189: bc: command not found
> netbeans-5_0-linux.bin: line 382: [: : integer expression expected
> Is ther any way to install it in Sid?
> If anybody succeded, kindly post.

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Re: apt-get, sudo and proxies

[Ryan Nowakowski]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 11:52:04PM +0200, Renato Serodio wrote:
> Hello group,
> 
> did something change in sudo policy? I usually do my updates behind a proxy
> with the following commands:
> 
> $export http_proxy=http://proxy.host:port
> $sudo synaptic (or sudo dselect)
> 
> It appears now that the variable isn't passed to the sudo command. So, if I
> define the variable for root, and call synaptic or dselect it goes, but
> otherwise just complains it can't connect to the repository.
> 
> Well, other programs, such as the CPAN shell through perl still works, so
> I'll assume it's really something to do with sudo.
> 
> Would anyone care to comment?

There was a security hole found in sudo and the fix was to disallow most
environment variables:
http://www.debian.org/security/2006/dsa-946

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downgrading a package

[Adam Hardy]

I'm using etch / testing and I did some upgrades (to try to get the
hotsynch for my handheld working) but things went badly wrong.

Now I'm trying to owngrade udev to 0.79 from 0.8xx but I can't get
synaptic to allow me to force the version I need. The menu option is 
just greyed out.


How can I enable that menu option ?

Thanks
Adam


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Re: Bluetooth modem

[Hendrik Sattler]

Frusch wrote:

> How can I use a 56k bluetooth modem?
> 
> I can find the modem with "hcitool" but a I can't create any connection.

You should take a look at the supported bluetooth profiles as further steps 
depend on this.

sdptool browse 

If it offers Serial Port Profile (SPP), make a connection to is using rfcomm 
and then use /dev/rfcomm* like a normal serial port.

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squid and blank/empty passwords?

[Scott Ehrlich]

Hello to all:

I installed squid via apt-get -

I am trying to establish blank passwords for some squid accounts, and am 
using htpasswd /etc/squid/squid_passwd name_of_user


When prompted for a password, I just hit enter twice.   The squid_passwd file 
still shows an encrypted password.   I've tried to delete it, leaving just the 
username and colon, but I cannot seem to get a blank password.


What is the magic?

Thanks.

Scott


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Re: icewm and keys

[Jesus Arocho]

Thanks, bound by something else is the answer.

On Thursday 06 April 2006 14:30, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 06:40:54 -0400
>
> Jesus Arocho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am having problems configuring the keys in icewm.  The box is running
> > Mandriva.  I downloaded and compiled the most recent icewm.
> >
> > The problem is that some of the keys I configure do not work.  F1 and F2
> > are ok F3 and on are not.  Of the Alt+Ctrl sequence, r and b do not work.
> >
> > [... snipped key table ...]
>
> two things come to mind:
>
> 1. those programs are not in your path properly? any number of reasons for
> this but its possible.
>
> 2. those keys are bound by something else that is interfering.
>
> hth
>
> A


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Re: win-axe clones

[Jan Schledermann]

ChadDavis wrote:

> Does anyone know of an open source software that does something similar to
> Win-axe?
If you install cygwin with X11 you'll have something that works reasonably
well.
In my experience though Win-Axe is both reasonably priced, very fast and
very stable. It is well worth the price if you are frequently running X
programs on a Windoze machine.

Best regards
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apt-get, sudo and proxies

[Renato Serodio]

Hello group,did something change in sudo policy? I usually do my updates behind a proxy with the following commands:$export http_proxy=http://proxy.host:port$sudo synaptic (or sudo dselect)
It appears now that the variable isn't passed to the sudo command. So, if I define the variable for root, and call synaptic or dselect it goes, but otherwise just complains it can't connect to the repository.
Well, other programs, such as the CPAN shell through perl still works, so I'll assume it's really something to do with sudo. Would anyone care to comment?Cheers,Renato

Re: No shell, Only FTP access

[Øyvind Lode]

Hi

Thank you :-)

I'm just running a server for some friends and family so it's not that 
important.


I stopped using ftp for some time and just scp/sftp but some compained 
about poor scp/sftp support in Dreamweaver so I put ftp back online.


But I don't wan't all of them to have shell access though so for now I 
just gave these users /bin/false (and updated /etc/shells thanks to Mike 
Bird :-)


My server has grown larger and larger with quite a few domains now and 
still rising but it's still just for "trused" friends etc but still i 
dont want all of them to have shell access.


So since my service has grown a little bit more than first expected I 
will indeed check out your package suggestions because they look like 
being exactly what I need.


And yes I considering switching to proftpd but havn't got the time yet 
and I also need to setup my own DNS service using BIND... And probably 
switch from Exim to Postfix for the MTA.


And by the way I use SSL on all MySQL administration through phpMyAdmin :-)

-Øyvind



Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

Øyvind Lode wrote:

Hello all

I running a webserver with multiple users and domains.
I want some users to have no shell access, only FTP access to upload
websites and chroot'ed in their home directory.

I have all the domains located in /home/www/domainname1/ ,
/home/www/domainname2/ etc.

I give the user proper access to the domain under /home/www/.
I chroot'ed the user in /home/www/domainname1/
I gave shell /bin/false

User is denied shell access but also FTP!!!
If I give /bin/bash and test the user is logged inn and chroot'ed in
/home/www/domainame1/

I'm using vsFTPd.

How can I deny shell access and allow FTP?



You might get better answers on the debian-isp list.

Have you considered any of the following?

1) Using a package like scponly or rssh? (You probably should not let
your users use an insecure protocol like ftp anyways)
2) Using an ftp server that supports virtual users (not sure if vsftpd
does) so that they don't even have accounts on the machine?
3) Using something like linux-virtual-server to give each user their own
disk space?

-Roberto




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Re: Unable to write reliably CD-RW's!

[G.C.H.M. Verhaag]

Mike McCarty wrote:


.

Are you using previously written CDROMs? There is apparently a problem
with erasure of previously recorded CDROMs and cdrecord, which I saw
discussed on Fedora Core List. IIRC, cdrecord allows one to erase and
do some writing with on command, but this fails. If one does the erase
command separately, then it succeeds. If this sounds like it might
be part of the problem, then I suggest trying a writable but not
R/W and trying that.




Hoi Mike & Vegard,

I've indeed used rewritable CD's (CD-RW's)! But it doesn't matter 
whether they are brand-new or used, the result remains very 
unpredictable! The laser must be active; the part of the disk that has 
been used can clearly be distinguished! Also a complete blanking 
(blank=all) of the entire disk yields a perfect undisturbed surface, but 
the disk remains useless.


Let me give you the output of some typical runs:

$ cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 
J?rg Schilling
NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of 
cdrecord

and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
Please send bug reports and support requests to 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version.

Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-24102B ' '5S0D' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *

Seems allright doesn't it?!

Generating the iso-file:

$ mkisofs -v -r -J -o test.iso /home/verhaag/tobewritten
INFO: ISO-8859-1 character encoding detected by locale settings.
Assuming ISO-8859-1 encoded filenames on source filesystem,
use -input-charset to override.
mkisofs 2.01-unofficial-iconv (i686-pc-linux-gnu)
Scanning /home/verhaag/tobewritten

... [left this part out]

Writing: Initial Padblock Start Block 0
Done with: Initial Padblock Block(s) 16
Writing: Primary Volume Descriptor Start Block 16
Done with: Primary Volume Descriptor Block(s) 1
Writing: Joliet Volume Descriptor Start Block 17
Done with: Joliet Volume Descriptor Block(s) 1
Writing: End Volume Descriptor Start Block 18
Done with: End Volume Descriptor Block(s) 1
Writing: Version block Start Block 19
Done with: Version block Block(s) 1
Writing: Path table Start Block 20
Done with: Path table Block(s) 4
Writing: Joliet path table Start Block 24
Done with: Joliet path table Block(s) 4
Writing: Directory tree Start Block 28
Done with: Directory tree Block(s) 9
Writing: Joliet directory tree Start Block 37
Done with: Joliet directory tree Block(s) 6
Writing: Directory tree cleanup Start Block 43
Done with: Directory tree cleanup Block(s) 0
Writing: Extension record Start Block 43
Done with: Extension record Block(s) 1
Writing: The File(s) Start Block 44
18.25% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 5 20:43:06 2006
36.44% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 5 20:43:06 2006
54.67% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 5 20:43:07 2006
72.91% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 5 20:43:07 2006
91.13% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 5 20:43:07 2006
Total translation table size: 0
Total rockridge attributes bytes: 9114
Total directory bytes: 16384
Path table size(bytes): 54
Done with: The File(s) Block(s) 27254
Writing: Ending Padblock Start Block 27298
Done with: Ending Padblock Block(s) 150
Max brk space used 21000
27448 extents written (53 MB)
$

Okay I'd say!

The actual burn:

$ cdrecord -v test.iso
cdrecord: No write mode specified.
cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode.
cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent 
defaults.

cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds...
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 
J?rg Schilling
NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of 
cdrecord

and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
Please send bug reports and support requests to 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version.

TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.25
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
SCSI buffer size: 64512
atapi: 1
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities :
Vendor_info : 'LITE-ON '
Identifikation : 'LTR-24102B '
Revision : '5S0D'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Current: 0x000A
Profile: 0x000A (current)
Profile: 0x0009
Profile: 0x0008
Profile: 0x0002 (current)
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1966272 = 1920 KB
Drive DMA Speed: 5032 kB/s 28x CD 3x DVD
FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data 53 MB
Total size: 61 MB (06:06.00) = 27450 sectors
Lout start: 61 MB (06:08/00) = 27450 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 5
Reference speed: 2
Is not unrestricted
Is erasable

Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On 2006-04-06, Tudi LE BLEIS penned:
> On 4/4/06, Monique Y. Mudama <...> wrote:
>
>>  Months later, I had filled half my quota, entirely with mailing
>>  list entries.  But there's no way to delete more than a page of
>>  messages at a time via their web interface (please, someone, prove
>>  me wrong!)
>
> Either I don't get your point, or you can cimply click on "ALL",
> "READ"... well I have to admit that I never tried.

I'm pretty sure that "ALL" applies only to the current page.  If I'm
right, there's no way to do something to all messages, period.

If I am wrong, someone please tell me!

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Re: No shell, Only FTP access

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Øyvind Lode wrote:
> Hello all
> 
> I running a webserver with multiple users and domains.
> I want some users to have no shell access, only FTP access to upload
> websites and chroot'ed in their home directory.
> 
> I have all the domains located in /home/www/domainname1/ ,
> /home/www/domainname2/ etc.
> 
> I give the user proper access to the domain under /home/www/.
> I chroot'ed the user in /home/www/domainname1/
> I gave shell /bin/false
> 
> User is denied shell access but also FTP!!!
> If I give /bin/bash and test the user is logged inn and chroot'ed in
> /home/www/domainame1/
> 
> I'm using vsFTPd.
> 
> How can I deny shell access and allow FTP?
> 

You might get better answers on the debian-isp list.

Have you considered any of the following?

1) Using a package like scponly or rssh? (You probably should not let
your users use an insecure protocol like ftp anyways)
2) Using an ftp server that supports virtual users (not sure if vsftpd
does) so that they don't even have accounts on the machine?
3) Using something like linux-virtual-server to give each user their own
disk space?

-Roberto

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Re: ntp.conf and ntpd

[Account for Debian group mail]

Thanks,

Ken


On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Greg Folkert wrote:

> On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 21:57 -0700, Account for Debian group mail wrote:
> > Is there a way to configure ntpd to listen to a select number of
> > interfaces? I have it set up on a virtual server and the ntpd program has
> > attached itself to hundreds of interfaces.
>
> If you were to look at the ntp-docs that are
> in /usr/share/doc/ntp-docs/html/
>
> Specifically:
> file:///usr/share/doc/ntp-doc/html/ntpd.html
> about 2/3rds of the way down the file.
>
> You will find a section called: Command Line Options
>
> In there you will find the "-L" option.
>
> -L
> Do not listen to virtual IPs. The default is to listen.
>
> So if you are using Debian Sarge (I assume), to the
> file /etc/init.d/ntp-server change the following partial line:
>
> /usr/sbin/ntpd -- -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -u $UGID
>
> to this
>
> /usr/sbin/ntpd -- -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -L -u $UGID
>
> adding the -L will make ntpd not listen on Virtual IPs.
>
> Hope this Helps.
>
> Sorry if you are subscribed to Debian-User, I haven't seen you on here
> before.
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Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups

[Doofus]

Pascal Hakim wrote:


Hi,

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:51:30AM +0100, Doofus wrote:
 


Can you quote:
   



I can't do the last twelve months, as we don't keep our data that far
back, and some of these numbers have to be counted invidually, but
here are the numbers for March.

Due to our multi step filtering process I can't even get numbers for
the whole of March, but we can make some assumptions.

 

1. the total number of posts from all sources received by the d-u list 
servers in the last twelve months,
   



The first step is dropping things at the MTA stage. Those logs don't go
back that far as they get pretty big. I've picked a full 7 days at
random that to be used as a sample and we get: 5891.

Since we're playing with round figures anyway, let's say that works out
at: 4.3 * 5891 = ~25300

All the rest of the numbers are for March:
CrossAssassin: 7375
SpamAssassin: 4672
Other filters: 333
-> subtotal: 12380
Total blocked spam: ~37700


Actual messages pushed through the list: 3404

 



Total trapped spam > 91.5%
Good show.


2. the number of posts received by non list members in the same period,
   



This can mean two things. If you want the numbers above but for
non-subscribers only, we can't do that for a large chunk of them, and
it would take too long for the rest.

If you want to know simply how many posts were made by non-subscribers
that then made it to the list and were posted, it's 862.
 




As Hendrik pointed out, I did of course mean *from* non list members.

I see no ambiguity in "how many posts were received from non list 
members [in sample period]?", and can't see how you could reach your 
second interpretation above. It's an interesting point though, and 25% 
of legitimate posts originating from non subscribers certainly 
strengthens the case for an open list.



3. the number posts actually published on d-u after all filtering in the 
same period
   



3404

 


and

4. the number spam (or non-spam) posts actually published on d-u in the 
same period?
   



I went through the archive for March, and pulled out the numbers. I
found 25 spam messages[1], which leaves us with 3379 valid messages.
 



Not a lot really, I concede.

The answers to these should go some way to highlight the scale of the 
problem, and also how much benefit is gained by allowing everyone in the 
world aim their crap at all of our mailboxes. I'll be surprised if a 
statistic is available for (4), but would appreciate the answers if 
they're available.
   



Even if we assume that I fell asleep on the page down key while counting
4., and guess that I missed half, we're still talking about blocking
over 800 valid messages.

25/37700 works out to be 0.066% of spam not being blocked. It's still
annoying of course, as the metric to use is the number of spam messages
that make it through rather than the percentage that make it through.
SNR and all that.



No, we need all the numbers. Only percentages describe the efficiency of 
the filtering. Your figures indicate some pretty impressive filtering 
though...


I could have asked another question: How much of the spam that gets 
through originates from non list members? I'll have a guess - all of it. 
What exactly *is* the argument for allowing non subscribers to post? All 
answers other than "debian=blind freedom" appreciated.


And thanks for your effforts and answer Pasc.


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Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups

[Tudi LE BLEIS]

On 4/4/06, Monique Y. Mudama <...> wrote:
> On 2006-04-04, Pascal Hakim penned:
> > I'm sorry, but I don't believe you can say something is another
> > user's responsability. The last thing the listmaster team wants to
> > have to do is to go through every message that has leaked the
> > headers and deal with that. Someone's already mentioned that it
> > looks like gmail does that by default. We have a lot of gmail
> > subscribers, and that number is only going to grow.

as a matter a proof, I removed the between <> mail address myself.

>  Months later, I had filled half my
> quota, entirely with mailing list entries.  But there's no way to
> delete more than a page of messages at a time via their web interface
> (please, someone, prove me wrong!)

Either I don't get your point, or you can cimply click on "ALL",
"READ"... well I have to admit that I never tried.

For me I keep all of them in gmail. And I'm far from having filled it.
That's true that at the begining I was poping them down to my disk but
now's no longer the case since 6 months.

> Web interfaces FTL.

Sometimes as replacement they can be of some help.

But to the question that started this discussion I would emphasize on
few points that are of importance for me
1) if we have google groups in parallel as d-u list... how should the
link between them be? Should one subscribe to both to get all
messages? I fear it will be make more mess than really solve the
problem.
2) to go to gmail, or google groups (even though the only google
groups I've read would really prevent me from going there, since they
were... well let's say not well visited), that would force everybody
to go there instead of letting anyone choose its own way? I do not see
any reason to take this liberty out. (even if gmail, allows anyone to
pop messages and deal with anyway you want on your computer later, but
it is slightly more complicated).
3) company dependent... sucks
4) one reason why some people would like to post questions without
subscribing is the amount of mails (not necerraly spams) that comes
with the list. I've seen very simple/naive questions from people not
knowing too much about Debian... do they have to have questions about
how to require a "at least 64 bits integer on a amd64" while they ask
for why emacs doesn't work?
5) I definitely do not have so much spams... let's say that I have 5
spams per day, 3 are from other sources (ebay...) and 2 from Debian ML
(only one recognised by gmail) for more than 120 regular mails. I can
live with it myself.
6) What's most painful are people not able to unsubcribe properly...
and if you think that google groups will solve it, then go and re-read
1)... apparently they are clever enough to read part of it, but not
all... they would continue simply...

and btw, thx for the figures.

Tudi.

Re: No shell, Only FTP access

[Mike Bird]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 11:18, Øyvind Lode wrote:
> I give the user proper access to the domain under /home/www/.
> I chroot'ed the user in /home/www/domainname1/
> I gave shell /bin/false
> 
> User is denied shell access but also FTP!!!
> If I give /bin/bash and test the user is logged inn and chroot'ed in 
> /home/www/domainame1/
> 
> I'm using vsFTPd.
> 
> How can I deny shell access and allow FTP?

You can add /bin/false to /etc/shells.

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Re: win-axe clones

[Steve Block]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 11:04:47AM -0600, ChadDavis wrote:

  Does anyone know of an open source software that does something similar to
  Win-axe?


That depends. What is win-axe?

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Re: kernels: i386 vs optimized

[Andreas Rippl]

On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 07:30:07AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> Chris Bannister wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 09:26:13AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>drifting OT, but to help improve your "snappiness" try some of the 
> >>lightwieght WM's (like IceWM) or a tiled one like WMII which I'm really 
> >>starting to like.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Or even fvwm. Check it out - very lightweight - very configurable.
> >Checkout some of the screenshots at http://www.fvwm.org/ - very nice!
> >
> > 
> >
> I'll second fvwm.  I have been using it ever since I started with Linux 
> and Debian (somewhere around Bo, or Hamm, on a 12 MB 486 box, IIRC).  I 
> have briefly looked at others when someone has recommended a wm that 
> sounds interesting, but it has ALWAYS been BRIEFLY.  I come right back 
> to fvwm.  It is small, lightweight and configurable.  I don't need icons 
> on the desktop, they just get in the way, but I have read that even that 
> is possible.
> 
> NOTE: I am now running a box with an Athlon K7 2400+ and 1.25 GB of 
> memory and I am still quite happy with fvwm.

I used to use fvwm myself, then changed to WindowMaker. One of the main
things I liked about wmaker was the 'snapping' feature where windows
glue themselves together when you move them next to each other. Do I 
make any sense? If yes, is there such a feature available in
fvwm? Last time I watched I didn't find anything...

Cheers

Andreas
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Re: default group ownership of a file

[Joe]

ChadDavis wrote:

Hello.  I need to know how the group ownership of a file is decided in
debian.  Also, is it the same for all linux systems?



To actually answer your question: files are saved with the user and
group ownerships of the effective user. For almost all applications,
this is the user who is logged in and operating the application.

System programs will run under different user and group IDs than the
person logged in, and will assign file ownership accordingly e.g. in
/var/log under Debian, most files are root:adm, some are root:root.

Vulnerable programs such as mail and web servers normally run as a
reserved, unprivileged user to minimise the damage they can do if
compromised. Apache normally runs as www-data:www-data on Debian.
Many, such as Samba, use the nobody:nogroup user and group but the
danger here is that if one such program is compromised it can damage
the files belonging to the others. Separate users and groups are better.
User and group allocations of system programs vary between Linux
distributions, though standardisation is slowly creeping in.

When a user is created, a group is also created with the same name and
ID. This is the primary group the user belongs to, and is the owning
group of a new file created by that user using most applications. These
are defaults and can be changed and as far as I know, other Linux
distributions do the same.


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Re: icewm and keys

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 06:40:54 -0400
Jesus Arocho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am having problems configuring the keys in icewm.  The box is running 
> Mandriva.  I downloaded and compiled the most recent icewm.
> 
> The problem is that some of the keys I configure do not work.  F1 and F2 are 
> ok F3 and on are not.  Of the Alt+Ctrl sequence, r and b do not work.
> 
> [... snipped key table ...]

two things come to mind:

1. those programs are not in your path properly? any number of reasons for this 
but its possible.

2. those keys are bound by something else that is interfering.

hth

A

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Re: tex broken

[Florian Kulzer]

David Wainberg wrote:

Thank you for your response.

Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



The same version of pdfetex works fine for me. (Debian Sid, "tetex-bin"
package version 3.0-16) 



Yes, I am using the same version.



Did you try to specify the full path explicitly,
starting from root, e.g. "latex /home/username/directory/template.tex"?



Good idea. I did so, and it worked...but, then proceeded to request
the paths of every tex component it needed to compile the file.



I have the suspicion that something is screwed up in the search paths of
your tex installation. You could try to reconfigure or reinstall the
tetex packages and "libkpathsea3" or "libkpathsea4". (I don't know any
specifics about the texlive packages, unfortunately.)



I have purged and reinstalled everything tex related (that I know of),
including libkpathsea4, but the problem persists. What else might
effect the tex search paths?


I do not know the details of latex/tetex that well, but I can suggest a
few more things to try:

1) Can root run "latex template.tex" without errors? If it is a problem
of environmental variables, it might even make a difference if you use
su or if you log in as root on a console. You could also try to generate
a new user and see if latex behaves differently when you log in as that
user.

2) Run "mktexlsr" as root. This should make tex rebuild its index of
files. Does the behavior change after that, do you get any informative
error messages?

3) "env | grep -i tex" will tell you if you have any environmental
variables which might affect the behavior of tex.

4) As root, run "texconfig-sys conf > texconfig.txt". This will save
information about your tex configuration in the file "texconfig.txt". I
have just pasted my output to http://pastebin.com/644517
You can use the download link to save my version and compare it to yours
with "diff". Maybe that will turn up something.

5) "kpsewhere" will tell you where tex finds certain files. You can run
"kpsewhere article.cls", for example, to see if your tex knows where to
find the class file for articles. Again I am hoping that you might get
an error message which gives us a clue.

Regards,
   Florian


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No shell, Only FTP access

[Øyvind Lode]

Hello all

I running a webserver with multiple users and domains.
I want some users to have no shell access, only FTP access to upload 
websites and chroot'ed in their home directory.


I have all the domains located in /home/www/domainname1/ , 
/home/www/domainname2/ etc.


I give the user proper access to the domain under /home/www/.
I chroot'ed the user in /home/www/domainname1/
I gave shell /bin/false

User is denied shell access but also FTP!!!
If I give /bin/bash and test the user is logged inn and chroot'ed in 
/home/www/domainame1/


I'm using vsFTPd.

How can I deny shell access and allow FTP?

-Øyvind




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Debian package for Freeradius_Postgresql module

[lmyho]

Hello All,

We have a project which is built on postgresql and freeradius on debian system. 
I
have installed postgresql-8.1 on the Debian system, and lately freeradius-1.1.0
also. Things seems ok, but when we started to test, we found that the postgresql
module of freeradius is missing in the debian distribution! 

After desperately checking, we were told that debian doesn't distribute the 
binary
module of freeradius for postgresql because of the incompatible license of 
these two
apps! However we can build the debian pkg from the source ourself if we need.  
So
we did it.  But this problem: we got so many...so many warnings during the 
process
of building the debian packages, tons of the warnings!  So although we have the
packages now, we don't know if we can use them with so many so many warnings??!

I want to post some of the warnings here for your advice.  Please tell me with 
such
kind of warnings, will the built packages still usable??  Further more, I am 
afraid
it is because our system is not purly dev system, so that we got those 
warnings...
so, if any one of you could possibly help us to get a v1.1.0 postgresql module 
of
freeradius, I would be so much grateful!! Or, if you can help us to get the 
newest
v1.1.1 freeradius package set fro debian (include the postgresql module), that 
will
be great also!  I deeply hope to get help from you...  

We specifically need this module bacause the codes in postgresql to work with
freeradius have been built, can't imagine all work will be trashed...:(


Please see the warning samples:

radius.c: In function 'make_secret':
radius.c:167: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'librad_MD5Update'
differ in signedness
radius.c: In function 'make_passwd':
radius.c:205: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'librad_MD5Update'
differ in signedness
radius.c: In function 'make_tunnel_passwd':
radius.c:294: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'librad_MD5Update'
differ in signedness

rlm_passwd.c: In function 'build_hash_table':
rlm_passwd.c:218: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'hash' 
differ in
signedness
rlm_passwd.c:232: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'hash' 
differ in
signedness
rlm_passwd.c: In function 'get_pw_nam':
rlm_passwd.c:299: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'hash' 
differ in
signedness
rlm_passwd.c: In function 'passwd_authorize':
rlm_passwd.c:536: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c: In function 'cisco_vsa_hack':
rlm_preprocess.c:126: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of
'__builtin_strchr' differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c:144: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in 
signedness
rlm_preprocess.c: In function 'rad_mangle':
rlm_preprocess.c:203: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of
'__builtin_strchr' differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c:206: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strcpy'
differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c: In function 'huntgroup_access':
rlm_preprocess.c:375: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 
'strNcpy'
differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c:376: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strlen'
differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c: In function 'add_nas_attr':
rlm_preprocess.c:404: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of
'ip_hostname' differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c:425: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of
'ip_hostname' differ in signedness
rlm_radutmp.c: In function 'radutmp_checksimul':
rlm_radutmp.c:658: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
rlm_realm.c: In function 'check_for_realm':
rlm_realm.c:209: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strcpy' 
differ
in signedness
rlm_sql.c: In function 'sql_groupcmp':
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strlen' 
differ in
signedness
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'__builtin_strcmp'
differ in signedness
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'__builtin_strcmp'
differ in signedness
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strlen' 
differ in
signedness
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'__builtin_strcmp'
differ in signedness
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'__builtin_strcmp'
differ in signedness
rlm_sql.c: In function 'rlm_sql_authorize':
rlm_sql.c:824: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
rlm_sql.c: In function 'rlm_sql_checksimul':
rlm_sql.c:1227: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
...

Please advise me if these warnings are serious??  

Any help would be greatly appreciated!  Thank you!!

Regrads,
leo

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SOLVED: group use of a Windows game in Wine (WAS: default group ownership of a file)

[hendrik]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 05:38:49PM +0200, Albert Dengg wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:10:41AM -0500, Michael Schurter wrote:
> > ChadDavis wrote:
> > >Hello.  I need to know how the group ownership of a file is decided in 
> > >debian.  Also, is it the same for all linux systems? 
> > 
> > All Linux (and probably Unix) filesystems store a group ID number (gid) on 
> > a per-file basis.  The gid is looked up in /etc/group to get the textual 
> > group 
> > name you're used to seeing.
> > 
> > All users have a primary group membership as well as any number of 
> > secondary group memberships.  (use the /usr/bin/id command to get that 
> > info)  When a 
> > user creates a file, that file's group owner is set to the users primary 
> > group.
> well that is not _completly_ true...
> at least in my expirience if the user has write permisions in the diectory 
> only 
> because of a certain group membership (for example in /usr/src with the
> src group) the gid of the file is set to respective group and not the
> users primary group.

Hooray!  I've been looking for this information for ages and didn't know 
this was the question to ask.  What this does is anable me to run 
multiuser Windows games under Wine!  Not multi at the same time, but 
each user saves.  If the game keeps all the saves in one file, or even 
has a file where it keeps *some* of the per-user information, the 
question of ownership arises.  If it's save using the user's uid, no one 
else will be able.  But if we install the entire game with a gamer group 
ID and a user ID that no one uses, enable writing in the proper 
directories (if necessary, all of them) then everything will just work, 
because the gamer-group ID will be used for all the files!

> 
> yours
> Albert



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[SOLVED]Re: xorg config-problem -- no mouse (on laptop with synaptics touchpad)

[Søren Christensen]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 05:59:08PM +0200, Søren Christensen wrote:

> Thank you, Florian, I'll try this out in the evening. I think this
> should work, it sounds right.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 

A kernelupgrade and a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg was enough to get X
running again. Needs some smaller ajustments and finetuning.

/severino


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help connecting two debians via dial up

[enediel gonzalez]

Hello:

I'm trying to connect two debians using two modems, but I've a 
misconfiguration on mgetty and ppd that close the connection after I saw a 
prompt, I need to have the prompt on the second computer.


Could somebody advice me where I can find the right documentation for my 
case.


Thanks in advance for any answer
Regards
Enediel

Linux user 300141
Debian GNU/Linux



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Re: How often should I fsck my ext3 partition?

[Brad Sawatzky]

On Thu, 06 Apr 2006, Greg Folkert wrote:

> On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 02:59 -0400, Brad Sawatzky wrote:
> > If you're really stuck (ie. remote access to your box and you suspect fs
> > damage), get as close to single-user as you can (shutdown what you can
> > without hosing your connection), remount ro and give it a shot.  (Having
> > /var and /home on separate partitions would help minimize problems.) 
> > Not recommended though.
> 
> Having /var and /home on separate partitions is not
> advisable/recommended?

Nope, that's not what I meant.  The 'Not recommended' referred to
remounting ro and fsck'ing.  If you *were* to remount and fsck you would
run into fewer problems if /var, /home (and /tmp) were on different
partitions (as they are mostly likely to have files open with write
access).  That would be one of several advantages to distributing your
filesystem across several partition (as you well know).

(Man, first I screw-up and reply to the wrong post, then get flam^H^H^H^H
lightly-toasted for abmiguous phrasing :-)  This has not been my finest
thread...)

Err, note the smiley, I'm not actually upset or anything.  Just a little
humor to lighten the mood.

-- Brad


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win-axe clones

[ChadDavis]

Does anyone know of an open source software that does something similar to Win-axe?

Postgresql module of Freeradius on Debian

[lmyho]

Hello All,

I am working on a project which need postgresql and freeradius to work 
together. I
have installed postgresql on the Debian system, and recently freeradius-1.1.0. 
But
during the test, we found that the freeradius software installed on the debian
doesn't have the postgresql module we need!

After desperate chacking, we were told that debian doesn't distribute the binary
module of freeradius for postgresql because of the incompatible license of 
these two
apps! But we were told we can build the debian pkg from the source by our own.  
So
we did.  But the problem was we got so many...ao many warnings while building 
the
packages, tons of them!  Now I have the packages I built, but with so many 
warnings,
I don't know if I can still use them for real??

I want to post some of the warnings here for your advise.  Please tell me with 
such
kind of warnings, will thebuilt packages still usable??  And more, if any one 
can
help me to get the v1.1.0 postgresql module of freeradius, I would so much
grateful!!  Hope to get help from you...  

We desperately need this module bacause the codes in postgresql to work with
freeradius have been built, can't imagine all work will be trashed...


Please see the warning samples:

radius.c: In function 'make_secret':
radius.c:167: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'librad_MD5Update'
differ in signedness
radius.c: In function 'make_passwd':
radius.c:205: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'librad_MD5Update'
differ in signedness
radius.c: In function 'make_tunnel_passwd':
radius.c:294: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'librad_MD5Update'
differ in signedness

rlm_passwd.c: In function 'build_hash_table':
rlm_passwd.c:218: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'hash' 
differ in
signedness
rlm_passwd.c:232: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'hash' 
differ in
signedness
rlm_passwd.c: In function 'get_pw_nam':
rlm_passwd.c:299: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'hash' 
differ in
signedness
rlm_passwd.c: In function 'passwd_authorize':
rlm_passwd.c:536: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c: In function 'cisco_vsa_hack':
rlm_preprocess.c:126: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of
'__builtin_strchr' differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c:144: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in 
signedness
rlm_preprocess.c: In function 'rad_mangle':
rlm_preprocess.c:203: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of
'__builtin_strchr' differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c:206: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strcpy'
differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c: In function 'huntgroup_access':
rlm_preprocess.c:375: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 
'strNcpy'
differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c:376: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strlen'
differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c: In function 'add_nas_attr':
rlm_preprocess.c:404: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of
'ip_hostname' differ in signedness
rlm_preprocess.c:425: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of
'ip_hostname' differ in signedness
rlm_radutmp.c: In function 'radutmp_checksimul':
rlm_radutmp.c:658: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
rlm_realm.c: In function 'check_for_realm':
rlm_realm.c:209: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strcpy' 
differ
in signedness
rlm_sql.c: In function 'sql_groupcmp':
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strlen' 
differ in
signedness
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'__builtin_strcmp'
differ in signedness
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'__builtin_strcmp'
differ in signedness
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'strlen' 
differ in
signedness
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'__builtin_strcmp'
differ in signedness
rlm_sql.c:564: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 
'__builtin_strcmp'
differ in signedness
rlm_sql.c: In function 'rlm_sql_authorize':
rlm_sql.c:824: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
rlm_sql.c: In function 'rlm_sql_checksimul':
rlm_sql.c:1227: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
...

Are these warnings serious??  

Any help would be greatly appreciated!  Thank you!!

Regrads,
leo

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Re: How often should I fsck my ext3 partition?

[hendrik]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:02:06AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 02:59 -0400, Brad Sawatzky wrote:
> > If you're really stuck (ie. remote access to your box and you suspect fs
> > damage), get as close to single-user as you can (shutdown what you can
> > without hosing your connection), remount ro and give it a shot.  (Having
> > /var and /home on separate partitions would help minimize problems.) 
> > Not recommended though.
> 
> Having /var and /home on separate partitions is not
> advisable/recommended?

His sentence "Not recommended though" did not refer to the sentence on 
parentheses, but the sentence before that outside parentheses.

> 
> Is that what you are saying, the "/" and "/var" and "/home" all be on
> one filesystem? If that is the case, why not "/tmp" and "/usr" and
> "/usr/local", huh?
> 
> I have to disagree with you.
> 
> Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda2   975136127620847516  14% /
> tmpfs  1038080 0   1038080   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/sda1   135468 18781115242  15% /boot
> /dev/sda7   975104  1456973648   1% /tmp
> /dev/sda6  5845408   1702848   4142560  30% /usr
> /dev/sda5  3893504   1682560   2210944  44% /var
> /dev/mapper/datavg-homeLV
>   31441920  13232872  18209048  43% /home
> tmpfs10240   736  9504   8% /dev
> /dev/mapper/datavg-usr.localLV
>   22787256   2645304  20101952  12% /usr/local
> 
> That right there is a typical installation. I am guessing you have never
> actually supported large numbers of users. This particular machine hosts
> 15 domains and plus their sub-domains.

If anything, he's quilty of not having a team of readers looking for 
ambiguity in his written words.  But how many of us do that, except 
maybe professional writers?

-- hendrik


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Re: amd64: why is sizeof(int) =4? why not =8?

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 10:29 +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ron Johnson  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 06:48 -0500, Mitchell Laks wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I wanted to find out more about amd64, so I installed the debian distro 
> >
> >Did you install the 64 bit version?
> >
> >> (etch/sid) on my amd64 dual core system. 
> >   
> >
> >Which one?  Etch or Sid?
> >
> >> I wanted to see if it is really 64 bit. So naively i compiled the 
> >> following 
> >> example program I found on the internet:
> >> 
> >[snip]
> >> Size of double is 8
> >> 
> >> So how do I see the 64 bittness of the operating system if  not this way 
> >> with 
> >> gcc? I would think tha size of int would be 8?
> >> uname -a
> >> Linux Rashi 2.6.16.1-meshulum-2006-4-5 #1 SMP Wed Apr 5 13:34:46 EDT 2006 
> >> x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >
> >If you did actually install the 64 bit build, do a sizeof(int *) 
> >and you'll see that it is 64 bits.
> >
> >AMD decided that, to help with compatibility with s/w written when
> >sloppy programmers assumed that sizeof(int) == sizeof(*), integers
> >will be 32 bits, even in 64 bit mode.
> 
> Hmm? That's a decision of the GCC guys. They decided to make int
> 32 bits. Remember it's just a C data type.
> 
> It makes sense because this way, you have a standard C data type
> for every size of integer:
> 
> char  8 bit
> short 16 bit
> int   32 bit
> long  64 bit

Thanks to Ray Lanza for reminding me that this is called the LP64
model, developed by DEC for the Alpha and OSF/1.

http://www.unix.org/version2/whatsnew/lp64_wp.html

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Re: xorg config-problem -- no mouse (on laptop with synaptics touchpad)

[Joe]

Søren Christensen wrote:

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:00:52AM +0200, Søren Christensen wrote:

I just made an dist-upgrade from Sarge to Etch. I switched from XFree86
to Xorg, but it will not start.

here is a part of the Xorg.log

[...]

(EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
(II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
(II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 0.14.4 (1404)
Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 14 nodes)

 ^^^

Synaptics Touchpad The evdev kernel module seems to be missing



(**) Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux
No such device.
Synaptics driver unable to open device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Synaptics Touchpad"


I just reread the error-message. I've been trying to get output from the
synaptics device -- no success.

The above mentioned evdev kernel module seems to be missing. How can I
fix that?



Did you do the upgrade from apt or Synaptic? I did this three months ago
and had the same kind of problem, and of course now I have no idea how
I fixed it. I had just done the same on a desktop, and had a working
setup to compare it with, but I have a feeling I didn't actually repair
or install anything. I *think* Synaptic failed to complete the
dist-upgrade, and using apt-get -f install from the command line
(followed by several more apt-get upgrades until no further activity)
was enough to restore things. I'm not sure, though. I may even have
gone to dpkg and ripped out one or two things to clear a logjam. Apt
is good, but sometimes it paints itself into a corner and needs some
fairly brutal surgery to get back to a consistent state.

Quick test: does apt-get update, apt-get upgrade return without error?


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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 10:24 +0200, Mirco Piccin wrote:
> Hi all.
> A little, stupid,  question.
> It's possible to "convert" a vfat (fat32) filesystem to ext3 without
> loss data?
> (...i hope i hope i hope...)
> Thanks!

No one has written a FAT->ext2 converter similar to the FAT->NTFS
converter that MSFT wrote many years ago.

Sorry.

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Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Mike McCarty]

Craig M. Houck wrote:

You don't want the processor fan to stop...at least I would never want fan
on top of the processor of ANY compuer I used to stop.


In laptops, often the CPU is put into some sort of "low power mode"
in which most functions are shut down, and the CPU can run without
a fan in this situation.

I'd appreciate it if you didn't top-post.

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Re: How often should I fsck my ext3 partition?

[Mike McCarty]

listrcv wrote:

Sorry to reply to you, but I can't find the message you
replied to.


Greg Folkert wrote:


On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 02:59 -0400, Brad Sawatzky wrote:


If you're really stuck (ie. remote access to your box and you suspect fs
damage), get as close to single-user as you can (shutdown what you can
without hosing your connection), remount ro and give it a shot.  (Having
/var and /home on separate partitions would help minimize problems.) 
Not recommended though.




Having /var and /home on separate partitions is not
advisable/recommended?


What he said is that remounting ro and trying is not recommended.

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Re: default group ownership of a file

[Albert Dengg]

On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 01:58:55AM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote:
...
> That should only happen if you have the setgid flag set on the
> parent directory. 
ah sorry i forgot... i _have_ learned that sometime in the past...
now that you mention it i remeber ;)

yours
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Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups

[Mike McCarty]

Pascal Hakim wrote:

'lo,

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:19:27AM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:





I predict that

(1) two already-formed factions will immediately chime in
(2) a near flame war will ensue
(3) no such figures will be forthcoming



Sorry.


No, no; as I wrote below I'm *hoping* to be proven wrong!

Thanks for the info (in the other message).


I'm hoping to be proven wrong on all counts.



Pasc
(with his listmaster hat on)


Thanks for the reply. I'm delighted to be wrong (so far).

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Re: default group ownership of a file

[Mike McCarty]

Michael Schurter wrote:

ChadDavis wrote:

Hello.  I need to know how the group ownership of a file is decided in 
debian.  Also, is it the same for all linux systems? 



All Linux (and probably Unix) filesystems store a group ID number (gid) 
on a per-file basis.  The gid is looked up in /etc/group to get the 
textual group name you're used to seeing.


All users have a primary group membership as well as any number of 
secondary group memberships.  (use the /usr/bin/id command to get that 
info)  When a user creates a file, that file's group owner is set to the 
users primary group.


This is also affected by the newgrp command, I believe.

You can change the group ownership of a file with the /usr/bin/chown or 
/usr/bin/chgrp commands.  You can change the group membership of a user 
with the /usr/sbin/usermod command.


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Re: xorg config-problem -- no mouse (on laptop with synaptics touchpad)

[Søren Christensen]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 03:52:51PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> OK, so at the moment both are not installed, but their configuration
> files are still present. The last versions that were installed
> correspond to the old "matching pair" from Sarge. These were probably
> removed because of dependency conflicts during the upgrade. udev was
> most likely not replaced because the Etch version needs a newer kernel
> (2.6.12 or higher). I guess the best thing to do is to install the
> appropriate linux-image-2.6.15, boot into it and then reinstall udev.
> (I am not 100% sure here, it might also be possible to reinstall udev
> before booting into the new kernel.) You will probably see a message
> which asks you to purge the hotplug configuration scripts. After you do
> so, run "udevsynthesize" as root and I would hope that then your
> /dev/input/mouse.. devices will work normally again.
> 
> Regards,
>Florian

Thank you, Florian, I'll try this out in the evening. I think this
should work, it sounds right.

Thanks again.

/severino


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Re: default group ownership of a file

[Pascal Hakim]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 05:38:49PM +0200, Albert Dengg wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:10:41AM -0500, Michael Schurter wrote:
> > ChadDavis wrote:
> > >Hello.  I need to know how the group ownership of a file is decided in 
> > >debian.  Also, is it the same for all linux systems? 
> > 
> > All Linux (and probably Unix) filesystems store a group ID number (gid) on 
> > a per-file basis.  The gid is looked up in /etc/group to get the textual 
> > group 
> > name you're used to seeing.
> > 
> > All users have a primary group membership as well as any number of 
> > secondary group memberships.  (use the /usr/bin/id command to get that 
> > info)  When a 
> > user creates a file, that file's group owner is set to the users primary 
> > group.
> well that is not _completly_ true...
> at least in my expirience if the user has write permisions in the diectory 
> only 
> because of a certain group membership (for example in /usr/src with the
> src group) the gid of the file is set to respective group and not the
> users primary group.

That should only happen if you have the setgid flag set on the
parent directory. 

Cheers,

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Re: dpkg-repack question

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,




The md5sum of your recreated package does not match the md5sum of the
package in the archive (according to the package listing downloaded from
the archive).  Since they both have identical version numbers, apt is
(rightly) convinced that your local versions have been corrupted through
some mechanism and that it must do a fresh download.  An alternative
would be to create local repository [0] from your rebuilt packages and
pin it to higher priority than everything else.


Potentially this is great because now I have to carry
/var/cache/apt/archives around all the time when I reinstall new systems
and if dpkg-repack would work as advertised (I think ;-) ) then I would
not have to!


-Roberto

[0] http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debrepository



Thanks Roberto. I am going to follow the directions in your website and 
build a depository. Then "all" I would have to do is use my install 
script and point apt at the depository. Thanks.


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Re: default group ownership of a file

[Michael Schurter]

Albert Dengg wrote:
at least in my expirience if the user has write permisions in the diectory only 
because of a certain group membership (for example in /usr/src with the

src group) the gid of the file is set to respective group and not the
users primary group.


Excellent point.  Thanks for the clarification.

Michael Schurter


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Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Greg Folkert]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 16:57 +0200, Ivan Glushkov wrote:
> I do not need to cool down my processor down to 37 degrees, as it is in 
> the moment. I need to make my fan speed dependent on the cpu 
> temperature. This will save battery & reduce noise. Any idea how to do 
> that? btw, I have loaded the modules:
> radeon111264  1
> drm74324  2 radeon
> thermal13640  0
> fan 4996  1
> button  6864  0
> processor  23464  1 thermal
> ac  5124  0
> battery 9796  0
> asus_acpi  11540  0
> ipw2200   114476  0
> ieee80211  33800  1 ipw2200
> ieee80211_crypt 6784  1 ieee80211
> snd_intel8x0   34140  7
> intel_agp  24796  1
> agpgart33932  2 drm,intel_agp
> firmware_class 11200  1 ipw2200
> snd_intel8x0m  17996  0
> snd_ac97_codec 98080  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m
> snd_ac97_bus2688  1 snd_ac97_codec
> tg3   106180  0

http://sourceforge.net/projects/cpufreqd

http://sourceforge.net/projects/acpid

or just use what is in debian already.

apt-get install acpid cpufreqd

Then look at the configs for them. They are pretty straight forward and
typically work Out Of the Box.

But you can change the settings tremendously, to your liking.
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Re: default group ownership of a file

[Albert Dengg]

Hi

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:10:41AM -0500, Michael Schurter wrote:
> ChadDavis wrote:
> >Hello.  I need to know how the group ownership of a file is decided in 
> >debian.  Also, is it the same for all linux systems? 
> 
> All Linux (and probably Unix) filesystems store a group ID number (gid) on a 
> per-file basis.  The gid is looked up in /etc/group to get the textual group 
> name you're used to seeing.
> 
> All users have a primary group membership as well as any number of secondary 
> group memberships.  (use the /usr/bin/id command to get that info)  When a 
> user creates a file, that file's group owner is set to the users primary 
> group.
well that is not _completly_ true...
at least in my expirience if the user has write permisions in the diectory only 
because of a certain group membership (for example in /usr/src with the
src group) the gid of the file is set to respective group and not the
users primary group.

yours
Albert


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Re: debian vs redhat

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Ron Johnson wrote:

On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 20:03 -0700, charles norwood wrote:

On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 17:58 -0700, John wrote:
Hi, just wanted to say I've used various versions of linux, and have 
mainly stuck with redhat/fedora (yeah, I know), but the latest versions 
have sort of bothered me.  So, today I tried debian for the first time, 
and wow, am I impressed.  I plan on migrating all my servers, home and 
office, to debian in the next few months.


Thanks!



Under redhat 9 I had a number of problems that caused server crashes
about once a month.  Under Debian stable (Sarge) everything is so
solid. Debian stable may be able to run on an unplugged

^

computer 

Hmmm   I'll try it 


Maybe it's because you use Stable?  Why I unplug the machine while
using Sid, it just dies.  :)



Ha! My Sarge keeps running! Due to my Back-UPS LS 500 with apcupsd 
3.13.2 (22 February 2006) no doubt ;-)


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Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Quoting Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Even if we assume that I fell asleep on the page down key while counting
4., and guess that I missed half, we're still talking about blocking
over 800 valid messages.

25/37700 works out to be 0.066% of spam not being blocked. It's still
annoying of course, as the metric to use is the number of spam messages
that make it through rather than the percentage that make it through.
SNR and all that.



That is crazy.  How is the spam filter that good?  On my own server I 
block a ton of stuff at SMTP time, but an annoyingly high amount of 
stuff still gets past SpamAssassin.  Is the filter processing all this 
mail regularly trained?  I know that we can now report mail in the 
archive as spam, e.g., if it actually gets through.  Has that 
contributed to an increased level of effectiveness?


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Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups

[Pascal Hakim]

'lo,

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:19:27AM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> Doofus wrote:
> >
> >Can you quote:
> 
> H! Someone calling for reasoned, rational discussion!
> H! Someone start a flamewar, instanter!!!
> 
> >1. the total number of posts from all sources received by the d-u list 
> >servers in the last twelve months,
> >
> >2. the number of posts received by non list members in the same period,
> >
> >3. the number posts actually published on d-u after all filtering in the 
> >same period
> >
> >and
> >
> >4. the number spam (or non-spam) posts actually published on d-u in the 
> >same period?
> 
> 5. what percentage of (2) is actually spam [or is that what you mean by (3)]

You should be able to work it out from my previous post. I hadn't seen
yours when I wrote my reply.

> 6. the number of times a reasonable, rational, calmly stated suggestion
> to list admin was actually responded to in a reasonable, rational way,
> instead of being rejected out of hand as "not being the Debian way",
> or "we've already discussed that a thousand times here, and we're not
> going to change"

I'm afraid I can't find any of those. Can you please refresh my memory?
I know that some of the list admins have at time lost their tempers,
but this is not really a common occurrence.

> >The answers to these should go some way to highlight the scale of the 
> >problem, and also how much benefit is gained by allowing everyone in the 
> >world aim their crap at all of our mailboxes. I'll be surprised if a 
> >statistic is available for (4), but would appreciate the answers if 
> >they're available.
> 
> I predict that
> 
> (1) two already-formed factions will immediately chime in
> (2) a near flame war will ensue
> (3) no such figures will be forthcoming

Sorry.

> (4) even if some are, and even if they clearly support your
> position, it won't sway those who disagree with you
> (5) some will consider you foolish for trying yet again, though
> secretly they will admire your courage
> (6) others will think you foolish for being so stupid as not to
> understand why letting everyone send his crap is a good idea
> (7) the group mentioned in (6) will prevail.
> 
> I'm hoping to be proven wrong on all counts.
> 
> Mike

Cheers,

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Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups

[Pascal Hakim]

Hi,

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:51:30AM +0100, Doofus wrote:
> 
> Can you quote:

I can't do the last twelve months, as we don't keep our data that far
back, and some of these numbers have to be counted invidually, but
here are the numbers for March.

Due to our multi step filtering process I can't even get numbers for
the whole of March, but we can make some assumptions.

> 1. the total number of posts from all sources received by the d-u list 
> servers in the last twelve months,

The first step is dropping things at the MTA stage. Those logs don't go
back that far as they get pretty big. I've picked a full 7 days at
random that to be used as a sample and we get: 5891.

Since we're playing with round figures anyway, let's say that works out
at: 4.3 * 5891 = ~25300

All the rest of the numbers are for March:
CrossAssassin: 7375
SpamAssassin: 4672
Other filters: 333
-> subtotal: 12380
Total blocked spam: ~37700


Actual messages pushed through the list: 3404

> 
> 2. the number of posts received by non list members in the same period,

This can mean two things. If you want the numbers above but for
non-subscribers only, we can't do that for a large chunk of them, and
it would take too long for the rest.

If you want to know simply how many posts were made by non-subscribers
that then made it to the list and were posted, it's 862.

> 
> 3. the number posts actually published on d-u after all filtering in the 
> same period

3404

> 
> and
> 
> 4. the number spam (or non-spam) posts actually published on d-u in the 
> same period?

I went through the archive for March, and pulled out the numbers. I
found 25 spam messages[1], which leaves us with 3379 valid messages.

> The answers to these should go some way to highlight the scale of the 
> problem, and also how much benefit is gained by allowing everyone in the 
> world aim their crap at all of our mailboxes. I'll be surprised if a 
> statistic is available for (4), but would appreciate the answers if 
> they're available.

Even if we assume that I fell asleep on the page down key while counting
4., and guess that I missed half, we're still talking about blocking
over 800 valid messages.

25/37700 works out to be 0.066% of spam not being blocked. It's still
annoying of course, as the metric to use is the number of spam messages
that make it through rather than the percentage that make it through.
SNR and all that.

Cheers,

Pasc

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Re: default group ownership of a file

[Michael Schurter]

ChadDavis wrote:
Hello.  I need to know how the group ownership of a file is decided in 
debian.  Also, is it the same for all linux systems? 


All Linux (and probably Unix) filesystems store a group ID number (gid) 
on a per-file basis.  The gid is looked up in /etc/group to get the 
textual group name you're used to seeing.


All users have a primary group membership as well as any number of 
secondary group memberships.  (use the /usr/bin/id command to get that 
info)  When a user creates a file, that file's group owner is set to the 
users primary group.


You can change the group ownership of a file with the /usr/bin/chown or 
/usr/bin/chgrp commands.  You can change the group membership of a user 
with the /usr/sbin/usermod command.


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Re: How often should I fsck my ext3 partition?

[Mike McCarty]

Brad Sawatzky wrote:

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006, Mike McCarty wrote:


A related question is how to do it without taking the machine down
uncleanly or fiddling an arcane file somewhere. I've thought about
perhaps doing...



FYI, if you simply want to force a fsck on the next boot (ignoring the
various filesystem flags), just run 'touch /forcefsck' anytime before you
shutdown.  (Apologies if this was mentioned in an earlier post, I missed
the start of the thread.)


It wasn't, but I did mention "fiddling an arcane file somewhere".
This is the "fiddle" I had in mind. Thanks for the reply.

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default group ownership of a file

[ChadDavis]

Hello.  I need to know how the group ownership of a file is
decided in debian.  Also, is it the same for all linux
systems?  

Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Craig M. Houck]

Michael;

Thanks for the heads up on that. I missed the fact that this was a
laptop...AND I just built a new box with a P4.
Yes, a P4 would make smoores very nicely!!

>> You don't want the processor fan to stop...at least I would never want fan
>> on top of the processor of ANY compuer I used to stop.
>
>In laptops its very common to at least dramatically slow down system 
>fans when they're not needed.  When modern laptops are in an idle or 
>near idle state their processors use very little power and therefore 
>generate very little heat.
>
>Now I wouldn't ever try to slowdown the fan on an Intel P4 ... you can 
>probably roast marshmallows over P4s.
>
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Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Ivan Glushkov]

Michael Schurter wrote:

Craig M. Houck wrote:
You don't want the processor fan to stop...at least I would never 
want fan

on top of the processor of ANY compuer I used to stop.


In laptops its very common to at least dramatically slow down system 
fans when they're not needed.  When modern laptops are in an idle or 
near idle state their processors use very little power and therefore 
generate very little heat.


Now I wouldn't ever try to slowdown the fan on an Intel P4 ... you can 
probably roast marshmallows over P4s.


Michael Schurter


I do not need to cool down my processor down to 37 degrees, as it is in 
the moment. I need to make my fan speed dependent on the cpu 
temperature. This will save battery & reduce noise. Any idea how to do 
that? btw, I have loaded the modules:

radeon111264  1
drm74324  2 radeon
thermal13640  0
fan 4996  1
button  6864  0
processor  23464  1 thermal
ac  5124  0
battery 9796  0
asus_acpi  11540  0
ipw2200   114476  0
ieee80211  33800  1 ipw2200
ieee80211_crypt 6784  1 ieee80211
snd_intel8x0   34140  7
intel_agp  24796  1
agpgart33932  2 drm,intel_agp
firmware_class 11200  1 ipw2200
snd_intel8x0m  17996  0
snd_ac97_codec 98080  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m
snd_ac97_bus2688  1 snd_ac97_codec
tg3   106180  0

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Re: amd64: why is sizeof(int) =4? why not =8?

[Mike McCarty]

Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ron Johnson  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 06:48 -0500, Mitchell Laks wrote:




AMD decided that, to help with compatibility with s/w written when
sloppy programmers assumed that sizeof(int) == sizeof(*), integers
will be 32 bits, even in 64 bit mode.



Hmm? That's a decision of the GCC guys. They decided to make int


No, he's talking about the instruction set.


32 bits. Remember it's just a C data type.


The GCC guys also made a decision, but that's not the one he's
referring to.


It makes sense because this way, you have a standard C data type
for every size of integer:

char8 bit
short   16 bit
int 32 bit
long64 bit


This is not every size of integer. I have used machines with
18 bit integers, 24 bit integers, and 36 bit integers. There
were even machines which used base 3 for a while (trits), but C
insists that integral types use a pure binary storage, though
which one is unspecified. (I've used at least three I can think
of right off.*) Anyway, there is nothing to preclude that
CHAR_BIT is 8, and sizeof(int) is 3 or 12.

We loved those 36 bit integers and FORTRAN. That machine used
true ASCII, that is 7 bit characters. So we could read with A5
format, and have one bit LEFT OVER to do ANYTHING WE WANTED TO
WITH. (Although CHAR_BIT cannot be 7, so this trick can't be
used with C.)

(irony, in case you didn't notice)

On another note...

The IBM 6250 was a sort-of natural octal/hex machine, but the ALU
used tables loaded from cards to do arithmetic, and it could
be programmed to do decimal arithmetic as well. Some wiseacres
sometimes programmed other, unusual, bases. There are possibly
more decimal computers in the world today than binary ones.


And this does not help compatibility with s/w written by sloppy
programmers who assime that sizeof(int) == sizeof(*), in fact it
breaks that compatibility, because sizeof(*) == 8. You can generally
assume that sizeof(long) == sizeof(*) on most Linux platforms nowadays
though. That will probably break on future 128-bit systems.


This was one of the rationales for introducing the size_t and
ptrdiff_t types. Also, one should realize that sizeof(int *),
sizeof(char *), and sizeof(int (*)()) may not be the same,
though sizeof(void *) and sizeof(char *) are guaranteed to
be the same, and to have the same format in memory. So

void*Vp;
char(*Fp1)(), (*Fp2)();

Fp1 = ;
Vp = Fp1;
Fp2 = Vp;

May not have the same results as

Fp1 = ;
Vp = (Fp2 = Fp1);

as Fp2 may not have the same value. The former code risks Fp2 being
invalid due to type conversion to (void *) along the way.


64 bit integers are of type "long long" and int64, which are just
different names for the same type.



On most current Linux platforms, yes, but on 128 bit platforms,
long long will likely be 128 bits.

And on amd64 with gcc, "long" is also 64 bits.

If you need exactly 64 bits, int64 is your best bet. If you need
at least 64 bits, long long will probably work fine.


Umm, there's a type for that, so for portability use int_least64_t.

* For unsigned types, it's all laid out, but for signed integral
types, the format of storage is unspecified. I've used signed-
magnitude (two styles), ones-complement, and twos-complement machines
at least. I may have used others, but if I have, I don't recall it.

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Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Jochen Schulz]

Craig M. Houck:
>
> You don't want the processor fan to stop...at least I would never want fan
> on top of the processor of ANY compuer I used to stop.

When you are using a Pentium M processor and have almost no load, it is
intended behaviour that the fan doesn't run. That's the whole point of
this processor: power saving and silence. And it is quite good at it.

To the OP: there are kernel modules to control the fan and there is an
option specifically for Asus as well. If you compile kernels yourself
you should find it in the ACPI section. I cannot be anymore specific
right now because my notebook is dead atm. But the fan works fine in my
Asus M2400N (Pentium M 1.3GHz).

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Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Michael Schurter]

Craig M. Houck wrote:

You don't want the processor fan to stop...at least I would never want fan
on top of the processor of ANY compuer I used to stop.


In laptops its very common to at least dramatically slow down system 
fans when they're not needed.  When modern laptops are in an idle or 
near idle state their processors use very little power and therefore 
generate very little heat.


Now I wouldn't ever try to slowdown the fan on an Intel P4 ... you can 
probably roast marshmallows over P4s.


Michael Schurter


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Re: Wireless roaming/configuration

[Doug Miller]

On 4/5/06, Z F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>
> I could not locate the description of the switches, for example what is
>
> wep_tx_keyidx=0
>
> 

wep_tx_keyidx=0 will use the '0' WEP for transmission.  Usually you
have 4 WEP keys, labeled 0 through 3.  By default you ususally use the
0 key for everything.  However, as with most things, you can use any
of the 4 keys.  This just gives wpa_supplicant the correct key to use.

For ASCII strings, you do surround the string in quotes.

HTH

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Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Craig M. Houck]

You don't want the processor fan to stop...at least I would never want fan
on top of the processor of ANY compuer I used to stop.


At 03:20 PM 4/6/2006 +0200, Ivan Glushkov wrote:
>Hi all,
>since few hours my processor fan does not want to stop, and the 
>temperature if my Centrino is 45 degrees. Do you know a way to configure 
>that on which temperature the fan should switch on?
>
>Cheers,
>IVan
>
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Re: debian vs redhat -fair

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However, Woody (which was released analogous to RH9) was just as rock 
solid stable as Sarge. I agree completely that we must compare 
relatively equal systems, but doing so does not change the outcome: 
Debian Stable lives up to its name.

I was using RH in 2000-2001, and couldn't figure out why the company 
stayed with it. I put Debian on my own system, and wow-ed them with 
dselect and apt. Oh well, Management was inflexible. And, that 
company is long gone. Maybe there's a connection there

Curt-

On Thursday 06 April 2006 05:10, Alvin Oga wrote: 
> On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > To be fair, RH9 was released 03/31/2003, while Sarge was released
> > 06/06/2005.  I would say that a difference of 2+ years would be
> > quite significant in terms of hardware support and general
> > application stability.
>
> bingo ...  
>
> some folks like to compare oranges to dogs ... vs a fair comparison
> of like systems from the same era ..
>
> 2 yrs is way way too long ... it'd be like comparing p4-1G vs p4-3G
> w/ hyperthread or something similar and yet vastly different
>
> c ya
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Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups

[Mike McCarty]

Doofus wrote:


Can you quote:


H! Someone calling for reasoned, rational discussion!
H! Someone start a flamewar, instanter!!!

1. the total number of posts from all sources received by the d-u list 
servers in the last twelve months,


2. the number of posts received by non list members in the same period,

3. the number posts actually published on d-u after all filtering in the 
same period


and

4. the number spam (or non-spam) posts actually published on d-u in the 
same period?


5. what percentage of (2) is actually spam [or is that what you mean by (3)]

6. the number of times a reasonable, rational, calmly stated suggestion
to list admin was actually responded to in a reasonable, rational way,
instead of being rejected out of hand as "not being the Debian way",
or "we've already discussed that a thousand times here, and we're not
going to change"

The answers to these should go some way to highlight the scale of the 
problem, and also how much benefit is gained by allowing everyone in the 
world aim their crap at all of our mailboxes. I'll be surprised if a 
statistic is available for (4), but would appreciate the answers if 
they're available.


I predict that

(1) two already-formed factions will immediately chime in
(2) a near flame war will ensue
(3) no such figures will be forthcoming
(4) even if some are, and even if they clearly support your
position, it won't sway those who disagree with you
(5) some will consider you foolish for trying yet again, though
secretly they will admire your courage
(6) others will think you foolish for being so stupid as not to
understand why letting everyone send his crap is a good idea
(7) the group mentioned in (6) will prevail.

I'm hoping to be proven wrong on all counts.

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Re: horde ?!?

[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:25:57 +0200
"Meni Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hello plp,
> 
> Sorry for the off-list question:
> does anyone know what happen to horde.org ???
> I can't reach it by web nor ping nor traceroute...nothing??
> can anyone try:
> http://www.horde.org
> 
> Is it just me or they  have a problem? (did they close the site??)
> 
> Thanks
> 


Try rde.org

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Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Ivan Glushkov]

Michael Ott wrote:

Hi all,
since few hours my processor fan does not want to stop, and the
temperature if my Centrino is 45 degrees. Do you know a way to configure
that on which temperature the fan should switch on?


Here is an example for an Thinkpad laptop.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ACPI_fan_control_script
  

Yes, I think this is strictly for Thinkpad. It says:
The following requires only ibm-acpi 
 0.11 or higher...
Looking at the script, and comparing with what I have on my laptop, I 
saw that I do not have anything in

/proc/acpi/fan

If you send us more informations about your laptop we can found more
informations.
  

I have an ASUS M6842NW, Centrino 1.5, kernel 2.6.16/etch

   Cheers,
   IVan


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Re: How often should I fsck my ext3 partition?

[listrcv]

Greg Folkert wrote:

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 02:59 -0400, Brad Sawatzky wrote:


If you're really stuck (ie. remote access to your box and you suspect fs
damage), get as close to single-user as you can (shutdown what you can
without hosing your connection), remount ro and give it a shot.  (Having
/var and /home on separate partitions would help minimize problems.) 
Not recommended though.



Having /var and /home on separate partitions is not
advisable/recommended?


He didn't say that :)


GH


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Re: Who is?RPSL format?

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Quoting Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Oskar Abley wrote:


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Even better ... "I am committed to protecting the privacy of 
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From a gmail account?  Where you have agreed to give Google perpetual 
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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Mirco Piccin]

Well, the hd was fat32 formatting 'cause is an external hd!A friends give me with same project file inside, and i'd like to convert filesystem in one step.Sure, i've already done a backup copy, and already fdisk & 
mkfs.ext3 the hd!Thanks anyway! On 4/6/06, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Frank Lanitz wrote:> Am Donnerstag 06 April 2006 10:48 schrieb Mirco Piccin:>
>>But a stupid question as mine was, is finalized to know if is possible>>convert the vfat filesystem without backup/copy in other location!!>>If there's no way to do this, of course i'll backup/copy data before
>>formatting in ext3 HD!>>> Still a real bad idea.>> But maybe> http://bolug.uni-bonn.de/archive/mailinglisten/BoLUG/2003-09/msg00388.html
> gives you some tip.>> Kid's, you better don't try this at home! :)>> Frank>For those who don't speak German, here's a translation of the keypart...10 FAT-Partition auf Mindestgröße schrumpfen
20 im freien Bereich ext2-Partition anlegen30 Linux booten, soviele Daten wie passen verschieben40 wieder DOS/PartitionMagic starten50 FAT-Partition auf Mindestgröße schrumpfen60 ext2-Partiton so weit wie es geht vergrößern
70 goto 3010 shrink the FAT-Partition to the smallest size possible20 in the free space create an ext2-Partition30 boot Linux, and copy over as many files as will fit40 start DOS/Partitionmagic again
50 shrink the FAT-Partition to the smallest size possible60 enlarge the ext2-Partition as much as possible70 goto 30I suppose one should delete the copied files and defrag.I agree with the admonishment that this is not for the
faint of heart. I'd do a backup first, anyway. I supposeone could use a compressed format for the files. Say,compress one directory at a time using PKZIP likeC:\> pkzip -a -ex -p -r some_dir some_dir\*.*
C:\> pkunzip -t some_dirC:\> deltree/y some_dirOn the Linux side, one could use$ cd copied_files$ mkdir some_dir$ cd some_dir$ unzip -La ../some_dirI believe that there is also a TAR for MSDOS around somewhere.
Another possibility is to copy off to another Linux machine, usingSAMBA and MSCLIENT or LANMAN for MSDOS. I've got an MSDOS machinewhich can do that set up now. It wasn't easy, but it works.Or, if you are starting from Windows, then it sets up easily using
a share on one side, and SAMBA on the other.By far, the best way to go, if you simply refuse to do a backup,is simply to buy/borrow/beg/steal another disc and do a copy usingLinux. After all data have been verified correct, reformat the original
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Re: How often should I fsck my ext3 partition?

[Greg Folkert]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 02:59 -0400, Brad Sawatzky wrote:
> If you're really stuck (ie. remote access to your box and you suspect fs
> damage), get as close to single-user as you can (shutdown what you can
> without hosing your connection), remount ro and give it a shot.  (Having
> /var and /home on separate partitions would help minimize problems.) 
> Not recommended though.

Having /var and /home on separate partitions is not
advisable/recommended?

Is that what you are saying, the "/" and "/var" and "/home" all be on
one filesystem? If that is the case, why not "/tmp" and "/usr" and
"/usr/local", huh?

I have to disagree with you.

Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2   975136127620847516  14% /
tmpfs  1038080 0   1038080   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1   135468 18781115242  15% /boot
/dev/sda7   975104  1456973648   1% /tmp
/dev/sda6  5845408   1702848   4142560  30% /usr
/dev/sda5  3893504   1682560   2210944  44% /var
/dev/mapper/datavg-homeLV
  31441920  13232872  18209048  43% /home
tmpfs10240   736  9504   8% /dev
/dev/mapper/datavg-usr.localLV
  22787256   2645304  20101952  12% /usr/local

That right there is a typical installation. I am guessing you have never
actually supported large numbers of users. This particular machine hosts
15 domains and plus their sub-domains.

Can you honestly tell me how you arrived at your conclusion? If it is
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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Mike McCarty]

Frank Lanitz wrote:

Am Donnerstag 06 April 2006 10:48 schrieb Mirco Piccin:


But a stupid question as mine was, is finalized to know if is possible
convert the vfat filesystem without backup/copy in other location!!
If there's no way to do this, of course i'll backup/copy data before
formatting in ext3 HD!



Still a real bad idea.

But maybe 
http://bolug.uni-bonn.de/archive/mailinglisten/BoLUG/2003-09/msg00388.html
gives you some tip. 

Kid's, you better don't try this at home! :) 

Frank 



For those who don't speak German, here's a translation of the key
part...

10 FAT-Partition auf Mindestgröße schrumpfen
20 im freien Bereich ext2-Partition anlegen
30 Linux booten, soviele Daten wie passen verschieben
40 wieder DOS/PartitionMagic starten
50 FAT-Partition auf Mindestgröße schrumpfen
60 ext2-Partiton so weit wie es geht vergrößern
70 goto 30

10 shrink the FAT-Partition to the smallest size possible
20 in the free space create an ext2-Partition
30 boot Linux, and copy over as many files as will fit
40 start DOS/Partitionmagic again
50 shrink the FAT-Partition to the smallest size possible
60 enlarge the ext2-Partition as much as possible
70 goto 30

I suppose one should delete the copied files and defrag.

I agree with the admonishment that this is not for the
faint of heart. I'd do a backup first, anyway. I suppose
one could use a compressed format for the files. Say,
compress one directory at a time using PKZIP like

C:\> pkzip -a -ex -p -r some_dir some_dir\*.*
C:\> pkunzip -t some_dir
C:\> deltree/y some_dir

On the Linux side, one could use

$ cd copied_files
$ mkdir some_dir
$ cd some_dir
$ unzip -La ../some_dir

I believe that there is also a TAR for MSDOS around somewhere.

Another possibility is to copy off to another Linux machine, using
SAMBA and MSCLIENT or LANMAN for MSDOS. I've got an MSDOS machine
which can do that set up now. It wasn't easy, but it works.

Or, if you are starting from Windows, then it sets up easily using
a share on one side, and SAMBA on the other.

By far, the best way to go, if you simply refuse to do a backup,
is simply to buy/borrow/beg/steal another disc and do a copy using
Linux. After all data have been verified correct, reformat the original
disc and copy back. Then return the borrowed disc.

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Re: xorg config-problem -- no mouse (on laptop with synaptics touchpad)

[Florian Kulzer]

Søren Christensen wrote:

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 12:08:58PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:


[...]


in /dev/input/ I find 13 files:
event[0-3]
js[0-3]
mice
mouse[0-3]

I get the same message, with each file: no such device


[..]


If I remember correctly the upgrade from Sarge to Etch takes you from an
old version of udev which still depends on hotplug to a newer version of
udev which includes the hotplug functionality and hence conflicts with
the hotplug package. This will lead to the removal of hotplug, and
problems can arise if its configuration files remain in place. Check the
status of udev and hotplug on your system:

dpkg -l udev
dpkg -l hotplug

Maybe that will give us a clue where things go wrong.




Here is output from dpkg -l udev (with a danish locale):
Ønsket=Ukendt/Installér/Afinstallér/Udrens/Tilbagehold
| Status=Ikke/Installeret/Opsæt.-files/Upakket/Opsætn.-fejl/Halvt-inst.
|/ Fjl?=(ingen)/Tilbageholdt/Geninst.-krævet/X=begge-dele (Status,Fjl: 
versaler=slemt)
||/ Navn   VersionBeskrivelse
+++-==-==-
rc  udev   0.056-3/dev/ management daemon

Here is output from dpkg -l hotplug:
Ønsket=Ukendt/Installér/Afinstallér/Udrens/Tilbagehold
| Status=Ikke/Installeret/Opsæt.-files/Upakket/Opsætn.-fejl/Halvt-inst.
|/ Fjl?=(ingen)/Tilbageholdt/Geninst.-krævet/X=begge-dele (Status,Fjl: 
versaler=slemt)
||/ Navn   Version Beskrivelse
+++-==-===-
rc  hotplug0.0.20040329-22 Linux Hotplug Scripts


OK, so at the moment both are not installed, but their configuration
files are still present. The last versions that were installed
correspond to the old "matching pair" from Sarge. These were probably
removed because of dependency conflicts during the upgrade. udev was
most likely not replaced because the Etch version needs a newer kernel
(2.6.12 or higher). I guess the best thing to do is to install the
appropriate linux-image-2.6.15, boot into it and then reinstall udev.
(I am not 100% sure here, it might also be possible to reinstall udev
before booting into the new kernel.) You will probably see a message
which asks you to purge the hotplug configuration scripts. After you do
so, run "udevsynthesize" as root and I would hope that then your
/dev/input/mouse.. devices will work normally again.

Regards,
   Florian


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squirrelmail-configure changed mysteriously

[Juergen Fiedler]

Hi,

I am running Squirrelmail 1.4.6-1 on a system that is mostly sarge
with some etch packages. This morning, tripwire reported that
/usr/sbin/squirrelmail-configure has changed and indeed, in line 388,
'Organization Title' was changed to 'Organization Ditle'.

I am not aware of upgrading Squirrelmail recently, and even if I had,
the introduction of this typo as the only change to squirrelmail-configure
seems quite odd. The times tamp on the file was March 10th - quite a while
ago.

Now, of course, I am quite concerned that someone may have been
tampering with my system - though, again, it would seem odd to do
something that obvious, yet pointless. 
Can anyone offer any alternative explanations as to what may have
happened there? Any input would be appreciated.

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Re: how do I stop my processor fan

[Michael Ott]

> Hi all,
> since few hours my processor fan does not want to stop, and the
> temperature if my Centrino is 45 degrees. Do you know a way to configure
> that on which temperature the fan should switch on?
Here is an example for an Thinkpad laptop.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ACPI_fan_control_script

If you send us more informations about your laptop we can found more
informations.

CU

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Re: amd64: why is sizeof(int) =4? why not =8?

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
* Miquel van Smoorenburg [Thu, Apr 06 2006, 10:29:00AM]:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ron Johnson  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you need exactly 64 bits, int64 is your best bet. If you need
> at least 64 bits, long long will probably work fine.

I guess you mean int64_t and uint64_t (in contrary to int32_t/uint32_t,
etc.). And IMO one should use these types nowadays when the value range
is known upfront. Symbolic names are unreliable, int may be anything
larger than 16 bit and long may be anything larger 32 bit, but you can
never know for sure without testing.

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Re: ntp.conf and ntpd

[Greg Folkert]

On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 21:57 -0700, Account for Debian group mail wrote:
> Is there a way to configure ntpd to listen to a select number of
> interfaces? I have it set up on a virtual server and the ntpd program has
> attached itself to hundreds of interfaces.

If you were to look at the ntp-docs that are
in /usr/share/doc/ntp-docs/html/

Specifically:
file:///usr/share/doc/ntp-doc/html/ntpd.html
about 2/3rds of the way down the file.

You will find a section called: Command Line Options

In there you will find the "-L" option.

-L 
Do not listen to virtual IPs. The default is to listen.

So if you are using Debian Sarge (I assume), to the
file /etc/init.d/ntp-server change the following partial line:

/usr/sbin/ntpd -- -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -u $UGID

to this 

/usr/sbin/ntpd -- -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -L -u $UGID

adding the -L will make ntpd not listen on Virtual IPs.

Hope this Helps.

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Re: vfat to ext3 without data loss

[Frank Lanitz]

Am Donnerstag 06 April 2006 10:48 schrieb Mirco Piccin:
> But a stupid question as mine was, is finalized to know if is possible
> convert the vfat filesystem without backup/copy in other location!!
> If there's no way to do this, of course i'll backup/copy data before
> formatting in ext3 HD!

Still a real bad idea.

But maybe 
http://bolug.uni-bonn.de/archive/mailinglisten/BoLUG/2003-09/msg00388.html
gives you some tip. 

Kid's, you better don't try this at home! :) 

Frank 


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how do I stop my processor fan

[Ivan Glushkov]

Hi all,
since few hours my processor fan does not want to stop, and the 
temperature if my Centrino is 45 degrees. Do you know a way to configure 
that on which temperature the fan should switch on?


   Cheers,
   IVan


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Re: No DVD download

[Steve McIntyre]

Andres Pannes wrote:
>
>Dear Sir, Dear Mrs.
>
>Why can I not download the DVD Editon of Debian Sarge ??
>
>Link http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-dvd/
>
>I have loaded this at 2005 on your Ftp Server and it works great now i must
>have a new DVD Editon for Private and Job (There handled better then CD´s).
>
>I DO NOT DOWNLOAD BY TORRENT or JIGDO share Networks.
>
>The othters download-links in the INet link to your Ftp also there´s
>nothing to Download. Then I´ve tryed another DVD Download,
>on screen Displays the DVD 4GB when I try the Download are Displays 300 -
>400 MB.
>
>Whats going on 
>
>Tell me please some alternate link or make a Download available, please !

http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#small-dvd

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