Re: gnome upgrade

[Paras pradhan]

hi:Thanks.. i see gnome-core. i think this is what i need. but i got some problem while doing apt-get install gnome-core. Doing apt-get dist-upgrade doesnot have any problem. am i doing something wrong in this case ?
o/p is:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# apt-get install gnome-coreReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency tree... DoneSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you haverequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been createdor been moved out of Incoming.Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely thatthe package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.The following information may help to resolve the situation:The following packages have unmet dependencies:  abiword-common: Depends: abiword but it is not going to be installed or
   abiword-gnome but it is not going to be installed  gnome-core: Depends: bug-buddy (>= 2.12.1) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: eog (>= 2.12.2) but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: gedit (>= 2.12.1) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: gnome-applets (>= 2.12.3) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: gnome-control-center (>= 1:
2.12.3) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: gnome-menus (>= 2.12.0) but 2.10.2-1 is to be installed  Depends: gnome-panel (>= 2.12.3) but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: gnome-session (>= 2.12.0) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: gnome-terminal (>= 2.12.0) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: metacity (>= 1:
2.12.3) but it is not going to be installed or   sawfish but it is not going to be installed  Depends: nautilus (>= 2.12.2) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: yelp (>= 
2.12.2) but it is not going to be installedE: Broken packagesHelpThanksParas.On 6/15/06, Vitaliy Ischenko <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:17:22 +0545"Paras pradhan" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> hi all:>> I have a desktop system in which gnome 2.10 is running absoultely fine. I> have installed it using etch repoistory around 4 months back. Now i see
> there is gnome 2.14 in etch. I want to know how do i upgrade only gnome core> files from my 2.10 to 2.14 without upgrading my other applications. is> apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment is the right solution or there is
> another way.>>> Thanks> Paras.>there is gnome-core

HOWTO: Shuttling MP3s, jpgs, etc. on and off the Verizon LG cellphone

[Aaron Maxwell]

A good way to move files between your cell phone and Linux machine is to 
use the excellent BitPim (http://bitpim.org).  Some phones will not 
work with BitPim, however, in part because of their closed-source 
nature. [1] This post describes an alternate solution.  This should 
work for nearly all Verizon LG phones, including the LG-VX9800, 
LG-VX8100, LG-VX600, so long as it's a phone that has a miniSD card 
slot. [2]

Again, the problem is: how can you move images, mp3s, and other files 
between the LG phone and a Linux machine?  The solution is to get a 
miniSD card, as well as a reader for it (for the linux machine).  You 
can configure the phone to automatically save new camera images to the 
card. [3]  Then you can take pictures, remove the card from the phone, 
put it in the flash reader, mount the card in linux, then move and copy 
files off and on it just like any other media.  Similarly, you can copy 
MP3s onto the card from linux, and listen to them on the phone when you 
plug the card in.

USB Flash readers are pretty cheap.  Search for "external flash reader" 
on eBay and you will probably see many listings for under $20.  I 
bought a nice one from CompUSA for $30+tax.  Usually these readers are 
marketed as "8-in-1", "12-in-1", etc., which is the number of flash 
formats they read.  Make sure that the one you get reads the miniSD 
format.  Alternatively, you can get one that just reads the SD format, 
and get an SD-to-miniSD adapter.  That's what I did, and it works well.  
The adapter came for free with my miniSD card.  I don't know what they 
would cost, but it's just a bit of plastic with some metal, so I'd bet 
it's cheap.  Just try to get a miniSD card that includes the adapter.

The card must have some particular directories on it.  They will have 
names like "my_mp3", "my_pix", etc.  To put these in, insert the card 
in the phone.  The phone should automatically make them for you.  You 
may have to take a picture and save it to the card first.

Once you get the reader, plug it into a spare port on your linux 
machine, then insert the card.  The only step left is to mount it.  
After that, you can read and write to it just like any other mounted 
device.  Unfortunately the mounting is not always trivial, but it IS 
always solvable with reasonable effort.  The exact steps vary, 
depending on the specifics of your hardware.  As baroque as the process 
can be, it is really well documented on the net.  Just search and you 
will find instructions.  It might also "just work" for you without any 
trouble.  Hint: try mounting it as a vfat filesystem.

Incidentally, at least some Verizon phones have their MP3 functionality 
disabled by default.  If it is, you may have MP3s on the flash memory, 
but your phone will not play them.  This is very easy to fix.  You need 
to go into the super-sekrit Service Menu.  To do this, punch "Ok" to 
open the main menu.  Then, press "0" (zero).  You will see a popup 
titled "Service Code", and a prompt for a 6-digit password.  The 
password is "00".  Tricky, aren't they!  You should now be in 
the "Services" menu.  (There are a lot of options here, and they are 
not supposed to be user-configureable.  Be careful if you play with 
them.  It is possible to break your phone's software by misconfiguring 
something.)  Scroll down to the item titled "Music Setting" and type 
OK.  Select "MP3 Enable" and press OK.  Press End to return to the main 
screen.  Now, under Menu -> Get It Now -> Get Tunes & Tones, there will 
be a new menu option, called "My MP3s".  This will list the sound files 
on the miniSD card, and you can play them.  Note:  This is how it works 
for my setup.  I believe it will be identical or very similar for all 
recent and near-future models.

The rest is straightforward.  Incidentally, while we're talking about 
cellphones, I found a way to get internet access on the phone for $12 a 
year instead of the normal $60.  Go to 
http://hopke.net/proxy/proxyhome.php
They offer inet service for cellphones.  Just like Verizon's service, 
but much cheaper.

Finally, if someone from Verizon is reading this:  I am VERY UNHAPPY 
that you DELIBERATELY designed the firmware to prevent the phone from 
being accessed from my PC.  I *know* you did this.  I *know* that when 
you do firmware upgrades for your phones, you include "enhancements" 
that prevent people from using the phone that they BOUGHT (not leased 
or borrowed) in ways that are convenient and reasonable for them.  I 
*know* that you do this to induce people to spend money on extra 
services that they would not need if you did not put in these barriers.  
I like that you have those addons, in case I decide to get them.  Then, 
of course, it's win-win.  But if the only way for me to get my pictures 
off my cell phone is to pay $0.25 EACH to email them to myself, well, 
that is highly annoying.  I have a cable, which you sold me, that 
connects my phone to the USB port. There is no technical reason I

Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Liam O'Toole]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:18:45 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
> Marc Wilson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:07:18PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> >> It's a shame that people still think of this as a concern: For
> >> the vast majority of people, I'd suggest that using GTK-apps or
> >> QT-apps in mutual exclusion is a serious case of premature
> >> optimisation and such people are missing out on some truly
> >> great software.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, while there are lots of GTK-based applications
> > that don't necessarily require Gnome, or can be built to not
> > require Gnome, the same thing cannot be said for QT-based
> > applications.  I have never found that QT has wide acceptance
> > outside the KDE community.  Exceptions are applications like
> > scribus, but those are few and far between.
> 
> And now
> 
> $ ldd googleearth-bin | grep q
> libqt-mt.so.3 => /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0xa6d84000)
> libqui.so.1 => /usr/lib/libqui.so.1 (0xa6d4a000)

Whereas the installer is a GTK app. Goes to show that you will always
encounter both toolkits on the modern desktop.

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Re: stuck in X11 transition

[Derek]

I had that same problem when upgrading xorg because i had opera installed,I removed it by doing dpkg -r opera then apt-get -f install and that did it.On 6/14/06, 
Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 04:19:48PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
> apt-get -f remove cbb> fails, apparently because of all the problems> arising from being in mid-X11 transition (lots of unmet dependencies).Don't use apt-get to fix the problem.  Apt-get doesn't allow broken
dependencies... and if you pass -f, *what you specify on the command lineis expected to be the solution to the problem*.So you told it to remove cbb, removing cbb didn't fix the indeterminatestate, apt-get told you so.
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Re: Directory for bash profile snippets?

[Waldemar la Tendresse]

On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 04:36:05PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Why not put the alias in /etc/profile ?
> 
> Greetings
> Michelle Konzack
> 
> 
I want have aliases set depending on the package presence/absence. So I
ideally want to make the package available through cfengine/puppet plus
put an alias file in some foo.d dir.

By the way, this should be the standard behaviour for most applications,
to parse some directory for "configurations".

Cheers,

W. la Tendresse


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Re: Autofs help

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya tony

> Tony Heal wrote:
> 
> 14-series:~# cat /etc/auto.master
> #
> /opt/epace-storage  /etc/auto.epace-storage --timeout=300

of you change * to epsace-storage below.. you need to change
/opt/epace-storage 

it is best to use /.autofs instead of /opt/something
and use symlinks
cd /opt ; ln -s /.autofs/espace-storage .

> 14-series:~# cat /etc/auto.epace-storage
> *   -fstype=nsf,rw,hard,intr,tcp   192.168.2.131:/opt/epace

do you really mean nsf or nfs ??

you should NOT use *

it's best to use:

espace-storage -fstype=nfs,rw,hard,intr,tcp   192.168.2.131:/opt/epace

i would not use hard mounts, but to each their own ... if you know 
why you're insisting on simultaneously using hard and intr

> 14-series:~# ls /opt/epace-storage/vault
> ls: /opt/epace-storage/vault: No such file or directory
 
says you have an autofs config problem, that you already know about

i'd say remove "--timeout=300" in the above automaster file
( it depends on where you got the autofs start/stop scripts and files )

- or it can be "--timeout 300"   no "=" sign

- what kind of error messages do you see when you start autofs
- what error messages are in the syslog files

> 14-series:~# mount -v -t nfs 192.168.2.131:/opt/epace /opt/epace-storage/
> 192.168.2.131:/opt/epace on /opt/epace-storage type nfs
> (rw,addr=192.168.2.131)

says that permissions, nfs, firewall etc is working, everything else
except autofs is working

> 14-series:~# ls /opt/epace-storage/vault
> test-file.txt

>  
>  
> Tony Heal
> Pace Systems Group, Inc.
> 800-624-5999
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
>  
> 
> --=_NextPart_000_01DB_01C69018.63212810
> Content-Type: text/html;
>   charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> 
> 
>  charset=3Dus-ascii">
> 
> 
> I have =
> read the docs=20
> and done some googling and I think I have everything set up right. My =
> problem is=20
> that although everything looks right I can not access the mount point. =
> Here are=20
> my docs as I have them. Can anyone offer some insight as to what I am =
> doing=20
> wrong. Note that I can manually mount the nfs share and access it, but =
> autofs is=20
> not working.
>  size=3D2> class=3D179370305-15062006> size=3D2> 
>  size=3D2>14-series:~# cat=20
> /etc/auto.master## $Id: auto.master,v 1.4 2005/01/04 14:36:54 =
> raven Exp=20
> $## Sample auto.master file# This is an automounter map and =
> it has=20
> the following format# key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ]=20
> location# For details of the format look at =
> autofs(5).#/misc =20
> /etc/auto.misc --timeout=3D60#/smb   =
> /etc/auto.smb#/misc =20
> /etc/auto.misc#/net  =20
> /etc/auto.net/opt/epace-storage =20
> /etc/auto.epace-storage --timeout=3D300
>  size=3D2>14-series:~# cat=20
> /etc/auto.epace-storage#/opt/epace=20
> 192.168.1.67(rw,no_root_squash,sync)
>  
>  size=3D2>#/opt/epace-storage=20
> -fstype=3Dnsf,rw,no_root_squash,sync#192.168.1.66:/opt/epace=20
> /opt/epace-storage nfs rw,hard,intr 0=20
> 0#/opt/epace-storage =20
> -fstype=3Dnsf,rw,hard,intr  =20
> 192.168.2.131:/opt/epace*  =20
> -fstype=3Dnsf,rw,hard,intr,tcp  =20
> 192.168.2.131:/opt/epace
>  
>  size=3D2>14-series:~#=20
> mount/dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=3Dremount-ro)proc on =
> /proc type=20
> proc (rw)devpts on /dev/pts type devpts =
> (rw,gid=3D5,mode=3D620)tmpfs on=20
> /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 =
> (rw)/dev/sda5 on=20
> /home type ext3 (rw)/dev/sda9 on /opt type ext3 (rw)/dev/sda6 on =
> /tmp=20
> type ext3 (rw)/dev/sda7 on /usr type ext3 (rw)/dev/sda8 on /var =
> type=20
> ext3 (rw)usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs =
> (rw)automount(pid2141) on=20
> /opt/epace-storage type autofs=20
> (rw,fd=3D4,pgrp=3D2141,minproto=3D2,maxproto=3D4)=
> 
>  size=3D2>14-series:~# ls=20
> /opt/epace-storage/vaultls: /opt/epace-storage/vault: No such file =
> or=20
> directory face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>
> 14-series:~# mount -v -t nfs 192.168.2.131:/opt/epace=20
> /opt/epace-storage/192.168.2.131:/opt/epace on /opt/epace-storage =
> type nfs=20
> (rw,addr=3D192.168.2.131)
> 14-series:~# ls=20
> /opt/epace-storage/vaulttest-file.txt
>  
>  
> Tony Heal
> Pace Systems Group, =
> Inc.
> 800-624-5999
>  href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
>  
> 
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Autofs help

[Tony Heal]

I have read the docs 
and done some googling and I think I have everything set up right. My problem is 
that although everything looks right I can not access the mount point. Here are 
my docs as I have them. Can anyone offer some insight as to what I am doing 
wrong. Note that I can manually mount the nfs share and access it, but autofs is 
not working.
 
14-series:~# cat 
/etc/auto.master## $Id: auto.master,v 1.4 2005/01/04 14:36:54 raven Exp 
$## Sample auto.master file# This is an automounter map and it has 
the following format# key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] 
location# For details of the format look at autofs(5).#/misc  
/etc/auto.misc --timeout=60#/smb   /etc/auto.smb#/misc  
/etc/auto.misc#/net   
/etc/auto.net/opt/epace-storage  
/etc/auto.epace-storage --timeout=300
14-series:~# cat 
/etc/auto.epace-storage#/opt/epace 
192.168.1.67(rw,no_root_squash,sync)
 
#/opt/epace-storage 
-fstype=nsf,rw,no_root_squash,sync#192.168.1.66:/opt/epace 
/opt/epace-storage nfs rw,hard,intr 0 
0#/opt/epace-storage  
-fstype=nsf,rw,hard,intr   
192.168.2.131:/opt/epace*   
-fstype=nsf,rw,hard,intr,tcp   
192.168.2.131:/opt/epace
 
14-series:~# 
mount/dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)proc on /proc type 
proc (rw)devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)tmpfs on 
/dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw)/dev/sda5 on 
/home type ext3 (rw)/dev/sda9 on /opt type ext3 (rw)/dev/sda6 on /tmp 
type ext3 (rw)/dev/sda7 on /usr type ext3 (rw)/dev/sda8 on /var type 
ext3 (rw)usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)automount(pid2141) on 
/opt/epace-storage type autofs 
(rw,fd=4,pgrp=2141,minproto=2,maxproto=4)
14-series:~# ls 
/opt/epace-storage/vaultls: /opt/epace-storage/vault: No such file or 
directory
14-series:~# mount -v -t nfs 192.168.2.131:/opt/epace 
/opt/epace-storage/192.168.2.131:/opt/epace on /opt/epace-storage type nfs 
(rw,addr=192.168.2.131)
14-series:~# ls 
/opt/epace-storage/vaulttest-file.txt
 
 
Tony Heal
Pace Systems Group, Inc.
800-624-5999
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

Re: testsaslauth works but sendmail will not authenticate -- please help.

[John covici]

ahh, I didn't know they were different -- there is a mysql in sasl
itself which I might try.

Thanks.

on Wednesday 06/14/2006 Richard A Nelson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
 > On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, John Covici wrote:
 > 
 > > I have a Debian system where I have the sasl2 library set up -- there
 > > were some problems doing that which I will get to in another message,
 > > but the main problem is that I have used
 > > testsaslauthd with a userid and password using my imap server for
 > > authentication.  The imap server uses a mysql database and that part
 > > works.  Now, what baffles me is that sendmail will still not
 > > authenticate -- even though I have pwcheckmethod: authdaemond it still
 > > tries to use pam somewhere and it fails.
 > 
 > I've never used authdamon for SASL - but your comment about PAM usage
 > is interesting...
 > 
 > You'll want to verify the following settings in /etc/mail/sasl/Sendmail.2
 > auto_transition:  <-- should be false
 > pwcheck_method:  <-- make sure it only has your authdaemon, not also auxprop
 > allowanonymouslogin:   <-- probably not relevant, but check
 > allowplaintext:  <-- this may need to be set to 0
 > 
 > My understanding, is that for plaintext passwords, PAM is called by
 > SASL and /etc/pam.d/smtp is used for authentication.
 > 
 > For non-plaintext, the pwcheck_method kicks in
 > 
 > -- 
 > Rick Nelson
 >  my client has been owned severely
 >  this guy got root, ran packet sniffers, installed .rhosts and
 >   backdoors, put a whole new dir in called /lib/"   ", which has a
 >   full suite of smurfing and killing tools
 >  the only mistake was not deleting the logfiles
 >  question is how was root hacked, and that i couldnt tell u
 >  it is, of course, not a debian box
 > * netgod notes the debian box is the only one left untouched by the hacker
 >  -- wonder why

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How do
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Strange cdrw behavior

[Dave Patterson]

SID laptop:

Running KDE on a HP Compaq nx7010 with a TEAC DW-244E-A DVDR/CDRW Drive.
I get this error during boot:

Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel: hdc: packet command error:
status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel: hdc: packet command error:
error=0x34 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x03 }
Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel: ATAPI device hdc:
Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel:   Error: Medium error -- (Sense
key=0x03)
Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel:   (reserved error code) --
(asc=0x57, ascq=0x00)

On an empty drive.  The drive light constantly flashes, and opening and
reclosing the drive (empty) results in hal calling it a blank cd.  How
do I get hal to stop this strange stuff?  Same behavior with Gnome.
X
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Re: (SOLVED?) Re: MP3 encoding?

[David E. Fox]

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:29:08 -0700
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Well, lame does a conversion and does not give me any errors.  I can 
> play the file with 'play' from sox, and sox will take it as input to 

iirc it depends if sox has come with links to the libmp3lame or other
mp3 related libraries on by default. Maybe this is not the case, since
mp3 encoding is by definition encumbered.

Here on 'etch' sox is linked against libvorbis but not any mp3
libraries, so I expect "native" saving in mp3 format isn't going to
work, unless of course you recompile 'sox'. Ogg vorbis should work
though.

Over here it seems to play (using 'play anmp3file.mp3') just fine.
However, its screen output gives me the impression it's actually ogg
vorbis doing the playing.



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Re: stuck in X11 transition [SOLVED]

[Ross Boylan]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 07:03:39PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 04:19:48PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
> >   apt-get -f remove cbb
> > fails, apparently because of all the problems
> > arising from being in mid-X11 transition (lots of unmet dependencies).
> 
> Don't use apt-get to fix the problem.  Apt-get doesn't allow broken
> dependencies... and if you pass -f, *what you specify on the command line
> is expected to be the solution to the problem*.
> 
> So you told it to remove cbb, removing cbb didn't fix the indeterminate
> state, apt-get told you so.
> 
> Use dpkg to remove the cbb package.
> 
Thanks; that did the trick.  I used dpkg -P to get rid of cbb and 2 
other packages (xext, guitar) that had similar problems.

Joey Hess documented this general problem and solution in the
"x11-common installation" section of http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7.

As directed there, I'll file a bug against x11-common noting that it
needs to conflict with these packages.

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Re: MP3s from an analog signal ?

[David E. Fox]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:46:01 -0700
"Cameron L. Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
> 
> A friend of mine uses a "user friendly" Windoze box
> to record (with permission) radio shows in background,
> on a predetermined schedule.  It's the last thing he still
> needs Windoze for.

The "analog signal" throws me. Is he recording the signal over the Net
(streaming) or with a radio hooked up to a soundcard's line in?

I used to do just that (record a radio show at a predetermined time)
when i was recording shows like Schickele Mix on PRI. No local station
carries this anymore, so I got it (after a couple tries) set up so that
it basically uses mplayer's stream dump facilty, shuts down after an
hour, then after that I can run mplayer to turn that into a .wav, edit
with audacity, burn to CD, etc.

> According to the Linux Sound HOWTO, which seems unmaintained,
> I can get raw samples from /dev/dsp0 with dd.  This works

Probably don't need to go that deep. There's a trick to doing this
right off the sound card's dsp, it goes something like:

#! /bin/sh
sox -V -c2 -r 44100 -t ossdsp -w -s /dev/dsp $1.ogg

start and stop when needed. That'll automatically go to 128-bit ogg,
seems sox can't do any better, or you can send it to mp3, or just
raw/wav format.

> Cameron


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Re: testsaslauth works but sendmail will not authenticate -- please help.

[Richard A Nelson]

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, John Covici wrote:


I have a Debian system where I have the sasl2 library set up -- there
were some problems doing that which I will get to in another message,
but the main problem is that I have used
testsaslauthd with a userid and password using my imap server for
authentication.  The imap server uses a mysql database and that part
works.  Now, what baffles me is that sendmail will still not
authenticate -- even though I have pwcheckmethod: authdaemond it still
tries to use pam somewhere and it fails.


I've never used authdamon for SASL - but your comment about PAM usage
is interesting...

You'll want to verify the following settings in /etc/mail/sasl/Sendmail.2
auto_transition:  <-- should be false
pwcheck_method:  <-- make sure it only has your authdaemon, not also auxprop
allowanonymouslogin:   <-- probably not relevant, but check
allowplaintext:  <-- this may need to be set to 0

My understanding, is that for plaintext passwords, PAM is called by
SASL and /etc/pam.d/smtp is used for authentication.

For non-plaintext, the pwcheck_method kicks in

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Re: google earth and sid...

[David E. Fox]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:34:31 +0200
Nicoco Kinlidex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hello
> 
> i can't get the brand new google earth for linux (R) (C) (TM) working.
> installation is OK but i get this :

I get that if I try the Direct option. (basically a debug message that
originated from a sig11).

I'm running Etch though, but have a recent (if not the latest) xorg and
running kernel 2.15.1 (with the No Dma Init workaround in xorg.conf)
and DRI works - enough to run other DRI stuff like stellarium and
celestia, those being pretty much the only glx apps I run routinely
here, other than screensavers.

I'm also using a Matrox G450. 

The upshot is either a) that the driver can't support 24 bit color
depth (google earth requires 32) and/or it requires more graphics ram
than I have (16 megs).


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Re: DRI Broken On Recent Sid

[David E. Fox]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:30:29 +0300
David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Other programs, ppracer, work in software mode and are unusable. Ysflight 
> actually seems to be using DRI though this program works nicely in software 
> mode as well.

I posted about this a few days ago when updating to 2.6.15.1. It may be
kernel - related from what I can tell. I'm still running Etch and I
don't have the same video environment (Matrox G450) but the fis is
either to upgrade to 2.6.16 or change a line in xorg.conf -in the
display section put Option "OldDmaInit" "true" save, exit X and
restart. That fixed the DRI for me.

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Can't write DVDs under Sarge

[Jack Dodds]

My newly purchased Pioneer DVD-111D will not write DVDs on my Debian
Sarge Pentium 1.8 GHz system. I am using HP 8X DVD-Rs and trying to
write at 4X.

I applied the dvd-record patch to cdrecord.  It writes between 30 and
200 MByte to the disk and then stops.  The written area on the DVD is
clearly visible. 

The same thing happens if I add the -dummy option, but of course there
is nothing actually written on the disk.

The same drive and program writes CD-Rs no problem.

I have also tried growisofs and dvdrecord with similar results.

Here are the results of a dummy write, as well as some information from
the -checkdrive and -prcap options.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Jack Dodds



DUMMY WRITE RESULTS

Note: The -force option gets me past the message
"cdrecord.mmap: Cannot get disk type".

#cdrecord -dummy -sao -force speed=4 fs=10m dev=/dev/dvd image.iso

Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C)
1995-2004 Jörg Schilling
Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support
Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original.
Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in
this version.
NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of
cdrecord
  and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
  Please send bug reports and support requests to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
  The original author should not be bothered with problems of this
version.

cdrecord.mmap: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.8
cdrecord.mmap: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
cdrecord.mmap: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or
Solaris.
cdrecord.mmap: Warning: Linux-2.6.8 introduced incompatible interface
changes.
cdrecord.mmap: Warning: SCSI transport does no longer work for suid root
programs.
cdrecord.mmap: Warning: if cdrecord fails, try to run it from a root
account.
scsidev: '/dev/dvd'
devname: '/dev/dvd'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-RW  DVR-111D'
Revision   : '1.02'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
cdrecord.mmap: Found DVD media: using cdr_mdvd.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc DVD-R(W) driver (mmc_mdvd).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: PACKET SAO
cdrecord.mmap: Cannot get disk type.
scsi_set_streaming
Speed set to 5540 KB/s
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed   4.0 in dummy force SAO mode for
single session.
Last chance to quit, starting dummy write0 seconds. Operation starts.
trackno=0
cdrecord.mmap: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0) using -150
cdrecord.mmap: Success. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 01 32 3F 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 08 03 00 00
Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x08 Qual 0x03 (logical unit communication crc error
(ultra-dma/32)) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
resid: 63488
cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 200s
write track data: error after 160561152 bytes
cdrecord.mmap: A write error occured.
cdrecord.mmap: Please properly read the error message above.




CHECKDRIVE RESULTS

#cdrecord dev=/dev/dvd -checkdrive

Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C)
1995-2004 Jörg Schilling
Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support
Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original.
Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in
this version.
NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of
cdrecord
  and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
  Please send bug reports and support requests to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
  The original author should not be bothered with problems of this
version.

cdrecord.mmap: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.8
cdrecord.mmap: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
cdrecord.mmap: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or
Solaris.cdrecord.mmap: Warning: Linux-2.6.8 introduced incompatible
interface changes.
cdrecord.mmap: Warning: SCSI transport does no longer work for suid root
programs.
cdrecord.mmap: Warning: if cdrecord fails, try to run it from a root
account.
scsidev: '/dev/dvd'
devname: '/dev/dvd'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-

initial horde install is unable to find its login page

[John Covici]

Hi.  I am using a Debian testing server and I have installed horde,
imp and its sub packages on the server and configured a virtual host
at least for testing from my local box.

Now what I get isThe requested URL /horde/horde3/login.php was not
found on this server.

There are several login.php files -- one in /usr/share/horde3 one in
/usr/share/horde3/lib/auth and one in the imp subdirectory.

Here is my apache2 configs:


 DocumentRoot /usr/share/horde3/
 Alias /horde/ /usr/share/horde3/
 Alias /horde /usr/share/horde3/
 Alias /horde3/ /usr/share/horde3/
 Alias /horde3 /usr/share/horde3/
 Alias /imp/ /usr/share/horde3/imp/
 ServerName webmail
 ServerAlias webmail.*
 UseCanonicalName Off
 
  
   php_admin_flag engine on
   php_admin_flag magic_quotes_gpc off
   php_admin_flag safe_mode off
   php_admin_value open_basedir
 "/usr/share/horde3:/etc/horde:/usr/share/php:/tmp:/var/log:/usr/share/doc"
   php_admin_value include_path
 "/usr/share/horde3:/etc/horde:/usr/share/horde3/pear:/usr/share/php:."
php_flag session.auto_start Off

  
  
   php_admin_flag engine on
   php_admin_flag magic_quotes_gpc off
   php_admin_flag safe_mode off
   php_admin_value open_basedir
  
"/usr/share/horde3:/etc/horde:/usr/share/php:/tmp:/var/log:/usr/share/doc"
   php_admin_value include_path
  "/usr/share/horde3:/etc/horde:/usr/share/horde3/pear:/usr/share/php:."
  
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all
 


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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Marc Wilson]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 08:44:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> If you want to fork the library, and convince app writers to use it.

Gnome and company realized that they couldn't fork GTK... no one would pay
attention.  Instead they co-opted it.

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Re: stuck in X11 transition

[Marc Wilson]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 04:19:48PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
> apt-get -f remove cbb
> fails, apparently because of all the problems
> arising from being in mid-X11 transition (lots of unmet dependencies).

Don't use apt-get to fix the problem.  Apt-get doesn't allow broken
dependencies... and if you pass -f, *what you specify on the command line
is expected to be the solution to the problem*.

So you told it to remove cbb, removing cbb didn't fix the indeterminate
state, apt-get told you so.

Use dpkg to remove the cbb package.

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Re: Problems with installing samba via apt-get.

[Steve Langasek]

Mattias,

Your mail client incorrectly claims that you are using iso-8859-1 as a
charset when your message is encoded in windows-1252.  Please fix this.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 09:46:59PM +0200, Mattias Wiberg wrote:
> apt-get install samba

> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> samba is already the newest version.
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 2 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B of archives.
> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
> Setting up samba (3.0.22-1) ...
> Starting Samba daemons: nmbd failed!
> invoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action "start" failed.
> dpkg: error processing samba (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1

Check /var/log/samba/log.nmbd, try to run "sh -x /etc/init.d/samba start" by
hand, check for other already-running nmbd processes on your system.

If you need additional help with this, please ask on debian-user.  If it
turns out to be a problem in the samba package they should be able to help
you submit a bug report for it as well -- though that seems unlikely.

> Debian r3.2 is installed on the machine

There is no such version of Debian.

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Michael Marsh]

On 6/14/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Save As" is what I'm talking about.

http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Save_As.png


Ah.  That's rarely been a problem for me.  Generally, I either put all
downloads in the same directory or use wget.

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Ron Johnson]

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David Zelinsky wrote:
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Michael Marsh wrote:
>>> About 27s for me.  I type in the path and click "OK" for the
>>> small dialog that pops up when you start typing.  It's then
>>> about 27s before that dialog goes away and I can click "OK"
>>> on the actual file picker.
>> Ah. That delay actually occurs when the actual file picker (for
>> lack of a better term) displays the /usr/bin directory.
>> 
>> The amazing thing is what it's doing. This includes:
> 
> [- description of atrocities omitted -]
> 
> This being Free Software, couldn't someone (preferably who knows
> what they're doing -- i.e. not me) simply change the code so it
> doesn't do these silly things?

Sure.

If you want to fork the library, and convince app writers to use it.

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For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed (solved?)

[John Hasler]

Dave writes:
> Figure out how to make APT point to BASH and file the bug there.  Be
> interesting to see what the APT people have to say.

Policy requires that /bin/sh point to a POSIX shell.  Zsh is not
POSIX-compliant.  You can break many things other than Apt by pointing
/bin/sh to Zsh.
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emacspeak : stty problem

[gustavo halperin]

Hello

I installed the emacspeak, but all the servers have the same error. 
When I test the servers using for example "tcl accent" I get an error in 
the line when is call the "stty" function, for example:

 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers# tcl accent

 Error: stty: standard input: Input/output error

 while executing

 "exec stty sane 9600 raw  -echo crtscts <  $port "

 ("Linux" arm line 3)

 invoked from within

 "switch -exact  -- $machine {

 DEC { #osf and ultrix

 exec stty sane 9600 raw  -echo < $port

 exec stty ixon ixoff  <  $port

 }

  ..."

 (file "accent" line 843)

and if I test this command I get an Input/output error, for example:
 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers# stty sane 9600 raw  
-echo crtscts < /dev/ttyS0


 stty: standard input: Input/output error


Any Idea what can be the problem ??

By the way, the file /dev/ttyS0 have the group "dialout" and the user 
that I'm using is part of this group, the permissions of the file 
/dev/ttyS0 are  "c---rw1  root  dialout".


 Thank you in advance,
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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[David Zelinsky]

Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Michael Marsh wrote:
> > About 27s for me.  I type in the path and click "OK" for the small
> > dialog that pops up when you start typing.  It's then about 27s before
> > that dialog goes away and I can click "OK" on the actual file picker.
> 
> Ah. That delay actually occurs when the actual file picker (for lack of
> a better term) displays the /usr/bin directory. 
> 
> The amazing thing is what it's doing. This includes:

[- description of atrocities omitted -]

This being Free Software, couldn't someone (preferably who knows what
they're doing -- i.e. not me) simply change the code so it doesn't do
these silly things?

-David


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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

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Michael Marsh wrote:
> On 6/14/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You can add direct, persistent links to the File Picker dialog
>> box. That should alleviate some of your pain.
> 
> Which dialog box do you mean?  If you mean the one that gives you
> the option of saving to disk, opening with the default, or
> selecting some other (via another dialog box), then I've got xine
> associated with most appropriate file types (and use few other
> programs that way).  If you mean the directory-browsing file
> picker, then I haven't seen a way to create a persistent link for
> more than a particular directory.

"Save As" is what I'm talking about.

http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Save_As.png

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Re: Have DVD burner, will backup!

[Daniel Johnson]

On 5/1/06, Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>I use DAR and a script called DARomizer which is designed to backup a
>hard drive to multi DVD-RW disks.
>
>DAR:
>http://dar.linux.free.fr/
>
>DARomizer:
>http://www.catherders.com/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=1
>
Thanks, that sounds great.  I notice too that dar is packaged in the
repositories.  I'm going to give it a try.


I made a perl script to backup to DVD's, and put it on sourceforge
back in April.  111 downloads so far, and not one support request.  It
worked for me, but I'm not sure how well anyone else is doing with it
because no one has sent me mail about it.

http://lazybackup.sourceforge.net/


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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Ron Johnson]

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Joey Hess wrote:
> Michael Marsh wrote:
>> About 27s for me.  I type in the path and click "OK" for the 
>> small dialog that pops up when you start typing.  It's then 
>> about 27s before that dialog goes away and I can click "OK" on 
>> the actual file picker.
> 
> Ah. That delay actually occurs when the actual file picker (for 
> lack of a better term) displays the /usr/bin directory.
> 
> The amazing thing is what it's doing. This includes:
> 
> open /usr/bin getdents
> 
> for each file stat it (to get modification time?)
> 
> That's reasonable, and most programs would stop here with about 
> .2 seconds used. Although a non-generic "pick a program to use" 
> chooser shouldn't need to even care about getting modification 
> times, which would bring it down to more like 0.001 seconds used.
> 
> 
> 
> for each file open file use fstat on it (to get modification 
> time? again?) read 4k of file contents, apparently to determine 
> the file type to use in displaying various (identically 
> meaningless) icons
> 
> The second loop is the killer when it needs to read 3000 files. 
> Tens of thousands of system calls, and the disk seeking all 
> around to read some 12 mb of data. Pretty absurd indeed.

This is a generic file picker.  You'd have to code in some sort of
exception handler.  "if the directory is in $PATH, only care about
file names".

I hereby give you permission to file a wishlist bug.  :)

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Re: Totem-gstreamer still not working

[Daniel Johnson]

On 6/13/06, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi folks,

I have a fresh install of sarge stable and am trying to get totem to
work.


The only totem-gstreamer I have gotten to work well on debian is the
one that came out in sid around two weeks ago.  Every version before
that was broken in some way or another.  It still can't play some
things, but stuff that conforms to open standards seems to all work,
and things that won't work will rarely cause the program to exit.
Playback of an unencrypted dvd will only work up to the point where
the menu loads.

totem-xine on the other hand works very well on sarge.  You may need
some extra packages to playback everything you want to, which you can
probably get from an unofficial apt repository in I think France.
Some of the packages may, or may not be legal in your country.

deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main


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Re: which editor can display Chinese?

[tom arnall]

i am trying to get better graphics performance from my toshiba sattelite. 
apparently i have the 855GM chipset, and apparently the driver is avail' at:

http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Detail_Desc.aspx?

agr=N&Inst=Yes&ProductID=922&DwnldID=9722&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng

but the install instrux are for suse. how do you set the driver up for debian?

thanks,

tom arnall
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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed (solved?)

[Joey Hess]

Carl Fink wrote:
> Shouldn't apt-get then refuse to run under zsh, or itself spawn /bin/sh and
> run scripts under that instead of the default shell?

/bin/sh is the default shell, and it is required on Debian that that
symlink only be pointed to POSIX compliant shells.

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[Joey Hess]

Michael Marsh wrote:
> About 27s for me.  I type in the path and click "OK" for the small
> dialog that pops up when you start typing.  It's then about 27s before
> that dialog goes away and I can click "OK" on the actual file picker.

Ah. That delay actually occurs when the actual file picker (for lack of
a better term) displays the /usr/bin directory. 

The amazing thing is what it's doing. This includes:

open /usr/bin
getdents

for each file
stat it (to get modification time?)

That's reasonable, and most programs would stop here with about .2
seconds used. Although a non-generic "pick a program to use" chooser
shouldn't need to even care about getting modification times, which
would bring it down to more like 0.001 seconds used.

for each file
open file
use fstat on it (to get modification time? again?)
read 4k of file contents, apparently to determine the file type
to use in displaying various (identically meaningless) icons

The second loop is the killer when it needs to read 3000 files. Tens of
thousands of system calls, and the disk seeking all around to read some
12 mb of data. Pretty absurd indeed.

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Re: MP3s from an analog signal ?

[Dale Hair]

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 17:16 -0500, Dale Hair wrote:

> > > 
> > > Is there anything in Debian that can take a raw samples
> > > file and turn it into an MP3?
> > > Has some other form of documentation replaced the collection
> > > of HOWTOs at TLDP.org?  Thanks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Cameron
> > 
> > If you use alsa sound system you can use arecord which is part of
> > alsa-utils and lame to encode mp3.
> > 
> > I have recorded from Internet radio stations with the command
> > 
> > arecord -t wav -D copy -d (length of recording) -f cd | lame - -V 0
> > filename.mp3
> 
> arecord will record what is going to the sound card.  You might be
> better served with vlc.  Check out
> http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch03.html .
> 
> After posting this I read up on arecord and it does record from soundcard 
> input.
> If you're using stable you are probably using oss and will need to switch to 
> alsa.

http://linux-sound.org/quick-toots/3-arecord_and_rtmix/quick-toot-arecord_and_rtmix-1.html
http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/arecord1.html


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Re: Sharing /usr

[hendrik]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 11:04:48PM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote:
> Dear Debian users,
> 
> According to the [1]FHS, /usr is supposed to be sharable between
> computers, mounted using e.g. NFS. Likewise, /usr/share is supposed to
> be sharable between machines of different architectures.
>  [1] http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
> 
> What would be the preferred way for doing such things under Debian?
> Assume I have several i386 boxes and a few sparcs, how would I install
> Debian on these machines, upgrade, remove packages... while
> sharing /usr/share between all the machines, and /usr between all the
> machines of a given arch?
> 
> Best regards, Thibaut.
> Note: my question is out of curiosity, it's not a real life problem.

I asked this a few months ago about /usr/share -- I have several 
machines with different architectires, and got no useful methods.  
Apparently the package system just isn't designed for this.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed (solved?)

[Dave Patterson]

* Charles Hallenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 14:51:22 -0400]:

> The strange problem of the "not fully installed or removed" packages I 
> have been reporting has been resolved...

Hooray!

> 
> It seems that a short while ago I have switched shells from bash to zsh 
> to explore its new features. I did it gradually, first doing a usermod 
> for each of my accounts to make /bin/zsh the login shell, then after 
> hammering out an agreeable configuration, changing the symbolic link 
> /bin/sh to point to /bin/zsh instead of /bin/bash. 
> 
> After looking at those files in /var/lib/dpkg/info mentioned by Dave and 
> Joey, I changed the link to point to /bin/bash again, re-ran apt-get -f 
> install successfully, then ran apt-get upgrade also successfully, and I 
> have a resolved system.
> 
> But why? I do upgrades at least once a day, and they usually went 
> without a hitch using zsh. But evidently this was somehow the cause of 
> the current problem.
> 
Hmm...

> It's a little vague to report it as a zsh bug just yet, I think.

Agreed. I think it's more of a problem with APT.  It should call bash if it
wants to use it.


> So what do I do? give up zsh? 
> 
Nah. Figure out how to make APT point to BASH and file the bug there.  Be
interesting to see what the APT people have to say.

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Re: Ruby Docs

[Arafangion]

On Thursday 15 June 2006 09:41, Tom Allison wrote:
> After running with Perl for some 7+ years I decided I would see what else
> is out there and my pick was to go from Perl directly to Ruby, passing
> Python entirely.
>
> And so it's been an interesting adventure so far.
>
> But I have two questions about Debian and Ruby and playing well together.
>
> I've run into a number of modules (fcgi, dbi, dbd) which have no
> documentation when they are installed via the debian package system.
>
> So my first question is this -- is this a Debian problem or an upstream
> problem?
>
> Second, is there something like perl's dh-make-perl for Ruby?
>
> Third, does gems have an assurance of bringing in these documents any
> better?

I wouldn't ignore Python altogether, but that aside, Ruby's documentation and 
maturity has always been lacking (I did my project in Python, because Ruby's 
wx binding sucked)


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Re: changing user id for all files in a file system

[hendrik]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 05:16:05PM -0400, Stephen R Laniel wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 05:07:35PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > chown --recursive onion: foo
> > 
> > will change the owners of all the files in the foo file-tree to onion, 
> > and change their gropu IDs accordingly.  Leave off the colons if you 
> > want them to stay in the old group.
> 
> But this will change *all* the files, not just the files
> currently owned by user [blah]. Which is not what the
> original poster wanted.
> 
That's right!  I missed that bit of the requirement.

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Re: Getting PostgreSQL to work with PHP

[James Westby]

On (15/06/06 09:56), Xavier Elizalde wrote:
> I have the default Sarge installations of PHP4 and PostgreSQL. But I  
> can't get PHP to work with PostgreSQL. The php command phpinfo()  
> shows that it was compiled with the following parameters...

[snip ./configure flags]

> It says "--without-pgsql" in there. I'm sure it should say "--with- 
> pgsql" instead for it to be working. Is there a way I can change this  
> using apt-get and compiling from source? I know it can be done  
> manually in a /usr/local directory, but currently PHP is in my /usr/ 
> lib64 directory. I'm kind of hesitant to compile anything outside of / 
> usr/local unless it is done automatically through apt-get for the  
> sake of keeping things organised. Any suggestions?
> 

Maybe php4-pgsql is what you are after.

James

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Re: Moo! (WAS Re: upgrade only if installed)

[Hal Vaughan]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 20:15, Felix C. Stegerman wrote:
> * Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-15 00:49]:
> > try "apt-get moo"
> > then "aptitude moo"
> > then "aptitude moo -v"
> > then "aptitude moo -vv"
> > and so on
>
> Now that was funny!

So it isn't super cow powers, but at least it has some super powers.

Hal


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Getting PostgreSQL to work with PHP

[Xavier Elizalde]

I have the default Sarge installations of PHP4 and PostgreSQL. But I  
can't get PHP to work with PostgreSQL. The php command phpinfo()  
shows that it was compiled with the following parameters...


'../configure' '--prefix=/usr' '--with-apxs2=/usr/bin/apxs2' '--with- 
config-file-path=/etc/php4/apache2' '--enable-memory-limit' '-- 
disable-debug' '--with-regex=php' '--disable-rpath' '--disable- 
static' '--with-pic' '--with-layout=GNU' '--with-pear=/usr/share/php'  
'--enable-calendar' '--enable-sysvsem' '--enable-sysvshm' '--enable- 
sysvmsg' '--enable-track-vars' '--enable-trans-sid' '--enable-bcmath'  
'--with-bz2' '--enable-ctype' '--with-db4' '--with-iconv' '--enable- 
exif' '--enable-filepro' '--enable-ftp' '--with-gettext' '--enable- 
mbstring' '--with-pcre-regex=/usr' '--enable-shmop' '--enable- 
sockets' '--enable-wddx' '--disable-xml' '--with-expat-dir=/usr' '-- 
with-xmlrpc' '--enable-yp' '--with-zlib' '--without-pgsql' '--with- 
kerberos=/usr' '--with-openssl=/usr' '--with-zip=/usr' '--enable-dbx'  
'--with-mime-magic=/usr/share/misc/file/magic.mime' '--with-exec-dir=/ 
usr/lib/php4/libexec' '--without-mm' '--without-mysql' '--without- 
sybase-ct'


It says "--without-pgsql" in there. I'm sure it should say "--with- 
pgsql" instead for it to be working. Is there a way I can change this  
using apt-get and compiling from source? I know it can be done  
manually in a /usr/local directory, but currently PHP is in my /usr/ 
lib64 directory. I'm kind of hesitant to compile anything outside of / 
usr/local unless it is done automatically through apt-get for the  
sake of keeping things organised. Any suggestions?


Xavier


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Re: Moo! (WAS Re: upgrade only if installed)

[Felix C. Stegerman]

* Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-15 00:49]:
> try "apt-get moo"
> then "aptitude moo"
> then "aptitude moo -v"
> then "aptitude moo -vv"
> and so on

Now that was funny!


- Felix

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Ruby Docs

[Tom Allison]

After running with Perl for some 7+ years I decided I would see what else is out 
there and my pick was to go from Perl directly to Ruby, passing Python entirely.


And so it's been an interesting adventure so far.

But I have two questions about Debian and Ruby and playing well together.

I've run into a number of modules (fcgi, dbi, dbd) which have no documentation 
when they are installed via the debian package system.


So my first question is this -- is this a Debian problem or an upstream problem?

Second, is there something like perl's dh-make-perl for Ruby?

Third, does gems have an assurance of bringing in these documents any better?


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Re: upgrade only if installed

[Bill Thompson]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:08:15 -0400
Stephen R Laniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I'm pretty certain that you can't do 'apt-get upgrade
> [package]'; you can only do 'apt-get upgrade' -- the latter
> of which upgrades *all* packages on your machine. See the
> manpage for apt-get(8):

Whoops! You are correct Sir! I thought I had used "apt-get upgrade
" in the past, but I just tested it and I am mistaken. Thanks
for the correction.

(Wasn't I complaining earlier today that users shouldn't need to read
the man page before upgrading in an Ubuntu thread? Note to self: Always
always always read the fine man-pages)

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stuck in X11 transition

[Ross Boylan]

Somehow I've gotten into a big mess with the  6.9-> 7 transition.
My initial upgrade failed with the message that there was stuff
remaining in /usr/X11R6/bin and I should move it out of the way.  I
did so, actually moving the entire bin directory (perhaps part of my
problem).  
   apt-get dist-upgrade
wouldn't run, so I did -f install.

This failed because, while unpacking x11-common, it said "trying to
overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin which is also in package cbb".

  apt-get -f remove cbb
fails, apparently because of all the problems
arising from being in mid-X11 transition (lots of unmet dependencies).

I tried recreating the /usr/X11R6/bin (empty), but now
  apt-get -f install
gives an error processing x11-common, preinstallation script returned
error exit status 1.

I'd appreciate any assistance.  My ability to search for answers in
text mode browsers is not so good.  Please cc me on the reply.

Thanks.
Ross Boylan

P.S. The stuff still in the bin directory was
cbb dialog4duplicate joycal


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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Kelly Clowers]

On 6/14/06, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What are the odds I can plead someone into forking FireFox to use a
different set of widgets, either QT or something more generic (wxWindows?)?



There is some QT code in FF already, but I think it is unmantained,
so I don't know if it will actually build that way and if it does, it might
be pretty buggy. As far as finding someone to maintain it, good luck.
It has been there for years, and it hasn't been used, so I guess no one
who could work on it wants to.

Cheers,
Kelly


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Re: Moo! (WAS Re: upgrade only if installed)

[Kelly Clowers]

On 6/14/06, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Wow...here's a silly one for the archives.

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 13:46, Bill Thompson wrote:
> In addition, the command "aptitude" is now recommended in place of
> "apt-get". The aptitude program handles package dependencies better
> than the apt-get program.

When you do apt-get --help, at the bottom you are told:

"This APT has Super Cow Powers."

But aptitude says:

"This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers."

I thought that was a cute little way of saying that apt-get was "more
advanced," and thus would be preferable.  This:
http://www.eeggs.com/items/36008.html supports the "more advanced" theory, in
that apt-get can do dist-upgrades.  Can aptitude as well?  Even if it is geek
humor, why does one have super cow powers and not the other?


try "apt-get moo"
then "aptitude moo"
then "aptitude moo -v"
then "aptitude moo -vv"
and so on

Cheers
Kelly

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Carl Fink]

What are the odds I can plead someone into forking FireFox to use a
different set of widgets, either QT or something more generic (wxWindows?)?
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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed (solved?)

[Carl Fink]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 11:15:05AM -0800, Joshua J. Kugler wrote:

> I believe the issue is that /bin/sh is expected to be a bourne shell, or at 
> least closely compatible.  zsh, "most closely resembles ksh but includes many 
> enhancements."  ksh has "command language [that is ] is a superset of the 
> sh(1) shell language."  While this means, in theory, ksh should do everything 
> sh would do, there might be expected behaviors that zsh (which "resembles" 
> ksh) does not live up to.

Shouldn't apt-get then refuse to run under zsh, or itself spawn /bin/sh and
run scripts under that instead of the default shell?
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Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

[Gnu-Raiz]

I wrote this on one of the forums I visit. 

I have been running breezy without any problem, and when I did a 
apt-get update dist-upgrade it borked my system.

I have quake4 and utk4 installed, after the upgrade quake4 would not 
even run, xorg was broken. This is what I get from filling a bug 
report! This is one of the bug reports I filed,
bug report 47369, filed against nvidia-glx.

This was the response I got!

status Rejected
Ubuntu cannot support manually installed drivers.

** Changed in: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (Ubuntu)
Status: Unconfirmed => Rejected

Or what about this one!

Bug 47391 which had an strace file attached and filed against xorg, 
note quake4 was running fine in breezy.

This is what they responded with.

Quake 4 is not supported by Ubuntu. Contact the quake developers for
debugging quake.

The strace pointed to xorg, so this guy is just clueless, why would 
I file a bug report with ID when its Ubuntu problem to get proper 
support, with the xorg packages.

I don't think I will install any Ubuntu distro again with support 
like that! Not to mention all the undocumented changes they make 
that bork stuff up.

For the brave of you try to compile a vanilla kernel.org kernel and 
see what mistakes you get. They have a whole thread of just making 
it Ubuntu friendly. Even if you follow the howto's I get errors. 
See this bug report 47376, in short it gives me device-mapper: 
dm-linear: Device lookup failed. This is using old.config off a 
breezy smp kernel.

So tell me how is this a good distro?

In response to the blog entry, I do think it's important to point 
out the history of some packages, this just shows the lack of 
professionality of the writer.  Right now I have very little time, 
and I am seeing if another bug fix of xorg in Ubuntu's line will 
fix my quake problem. 

If I had the time, I would wipe ubuntu from every system I have just 
out of spite for the way they treat bug reports. I have it on a 
amd64 system which right now is a dual boot system, and an old 
laptop that crunches rc5-72.  

Gnu_Raiz


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Re: upgrade only if installed

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 02:46:04PM -0700, Bill Thompson wrote:
> apt-get upgrade 
> will upgrade a package if it is already installed in your system and an
> upgrade is available.

I'm pretty certain that you can't do 'apt-get upgrade
[package]'; you can only do 'apt-get upgrade' -- the latter
of which upgrades *all* packages on your machine. See the
manpage for apt-get(8):

   upgrade
  upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all  packages  
currently  installed  on  the  system  from  the  sources  enumerated  in
  /etc/apt/sources.list.  Packages  currently  installed  with new 
versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no circumstances are
  currently installed packages removed, or packages not already 
installed retrieved and installed. New versions of currently installed pack
  ages  that cannot be upgraded without changing the install status 
of another package will be left at their current version. An update must
  be performed first so that apt-get knows that new versions of 
packages are available.

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Re: MP3s from an analog signal ?

[Dale Hair]

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 16:36 -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 13:46 -0700, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
> > [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
> > 
> > A friend of mine uses a "user friendly" Windoze box
> > to record (with permission) radio shows in background,
> > on a predetermined schedule.  It's the last thing he still
> > needs Windoze for.
> > 
> > We'd like to replace that setup with a cron-driven
> > shell script on his Sarge box.
> > 
> > According to the Linux Sound HOWTO, which seems unmaintained,
> > I can get raw samples from /dev/dsp0 with dd.  This works
> > on about half the sound cards/motherboards I've tried.
> > I suspect the rest have some kind of mixer issue, or
> > maybe the codecs just aren't wired right on those motherboards.
> > 
> > But once we have that raw samples file, we don't know how
> > to make a usable MP3 out of it.  Searching with Google,
> > I find a lot of people asking the same question, and people
> > barking one-word "answers" at them, that don't lead anywhere.
> > 
> > Is there anything in Debian that can take a raw samples
> > file and turn it into an MP3?
> > Has some other form of documentation replaced the collection
> > of HOWTOs at TLDP.org?  Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > Cameron
> 
> If you use alsa sound system you can use arecord which is part of
> alsa-utils and lame to encode mp3.
> 
> I have recorded from Internet radio stations with the command
> 
> arecord -t wav -D copy -d (length of recording) -f cd | lame - -V 0
> filename.mp3

arecord will record what is going to the sound card.  You might be
better served with vlc.  Check out
http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch03.html .


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Moo! (WAS Re: upgrade only if installed)

[Joshua J. Kugler]

Wow...here's a silly one for the archives.

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 13:46, Bill Thompson wrote:
> In addition, the command "aptitude" is now recommended in place of
> "apt-get". The aptitude program handles package dependencies better
> than the apt-get program.

When you do apt-get --help, at the bottom you are told:

"This APT has Super Cow Powers."

But aptitude says:

"This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers."

I thought that was a cute little way of saying that apt-get was "more 
advanced," and thus would be preferable.  This:  
http://www.eeggs.com/items/36008.html supports the "more advanced" theory, in 
that apt-get can do dist-upgrades.  Can aptitude as well?  Even if it is geek 
humor, why does one have super cow powers and not the other?

j

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Michael Marsh]

On 6/14/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You can add direct, persistent links to the File Picker dialog box.
 That should alleviate some of your pain.


Which dialog box do you mean?  If you mean the one that gives you the
option of saving to disk, opening with the default, or selecting some
other (via another dialog box), then I've got xine associated with
most appropriate file types (and use few other programs that way).  If
you mean the directory-browsing file picker, then I haven't seen a way
to create a persistent link for more than a particular directory.

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Michael Marsh]

On 6/14/06, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Michael Marsh wrote:
> Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
> you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
> /usr/bin.  Unless they've fixed that recently.  I really don't like
> typing "/usr/bin/xine" and then waiting a minute for the "OK" button
> to become clickable.  Well, perhaps not a full minute, but on a 1GHz
> laptop it's an excruciatingly long wait nonetheless.

Hmm, on my 1.3 ghz laptop it was under 2 tenths of a second (from dry
cache).


About 27s for me.  I type in the path and click "OK" for the small
dialog that pops up when you start typing.  It's then about 27s before
that dialog goes away and I can click "OK" on the actual file picker.

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Re: upgrade only if installed

[Bill Thompson]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:00:19 -0400
Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would like to upgrade a package only if it is installed. If the
> package is not already installed, I would not want it to be
> installed. Is this possible? 
> 
> Currently when I use
> 
> apt-get install 
> 
> apt-get does not distinguish between whether the package has already
> been installed or not. Is there any other program which distinguishes
> between the two?

Unless I misunderstand your question, I believe you should be using
"upgrade" and not "install".

apt-get install 
will install a new package into your system.

apt-get upgrade 
will upgrade a package if it is already installed in your system and an
upgrade is available.

apt-get upgrade
will upgrade all installed packages if an upgrade is available.

In addition, the command "aptitude" is now recommended in place of
"apt-get". The aptitude program handles package dependencies better
than the apt-get program.

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Re: MP3s from an analog signal ?

[Dale Hair]

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 13:46 -0700, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
> [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
> 
> A friend of mine uses a "user friendly" Windoze box
> to record (with permission) radio shows in background,
> on a predetermined schedule.  It's the last thing he still
> needs Windoze for.
> 
> We'd like to replace that setup with a cron-driven
> shell script on his Sarge box.
> 
> According to the Linux Sound HOWTO, which seems unmaintained,
> I can get raw samples from /dev/dsp0 with dd.  This works
> on about half the sound cards/motherboards I've tried.
> I suspect the rest have some kind of mixer issue, or
> maybe the codecs just aren't wired right on those motherboards.
> 
> But once we have that raw samples file, we don't know how
> to make a usable MP3 out of it.  Searching with Google,
> I find a lot of people asking the same question, and people
> barking one-word "answers" at them, that don't lead anywhere.
> 
> Is there anything in Debian that can take a raw samples
> file and turn it into an MP3?
> Has some other form of documentation replaced the collection
> of HOWTOs at TLDP.org?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Cameron

If you use alsa sound system you can use arecord which is part of
alsa-utils and lame to encode mp3.

I have recorded from Internet radio stations with the command

arecord -t wav -D copy -d (length of recording) -f cd | lame - -V 0
filename.mp3


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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

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> On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for
>> the GTK file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT
>> version, but ever since I learned that you can just start
>> typing a path, it hasn't bothered me much. Of course, I also
>> usually just download to ~/Downloads and if it needs moved, I
>> move it from the command line.
> 
> Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is
> when you need to specify that a file should be opened with a
> program in /usr/bin.  Unless they've fixed that recently.  I
> really don't like typing "/usr/bin/xine" and then waiting a
> minute for the "OK" button to become clickable.  Well, perhaps
> not a full minute, but on a 1GHz laptop it's an excruciatingly
> long wait nonetheless.

You can add direct, persistent links to the File Picker dialog box.
 That should alleviate some of your pain.

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Re: changing user id for all files in a file system

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On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 05:07:35PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> chown --recursive onion: foo
> 
> will change the owners of all the files in the foo file-tree to onion, 
> and change their gropu IDs accordingly.  Leave off the colons if you 
> want them to stay in the old group.

But this will change *all* the files, not just the files
currently owned by user [blah]. Which is not what the
original poster wanted.

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Re: changing user id for all files in a file system

[hendrik]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 10:02:43PM +0200, Johannes Zellner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> is there a simple and fast way to change the user id for all files in
> the file system, say from 1234 to 5000?

chown --recursive onion: foo

will change the owners of all the files in the foo file-tree to onion, 
and change their gropu IDs accordingly.  Leave off the colons if you 
want them to stay in the old group.

Read
man chown
first, to make sure you know what it's doing.

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Re: Re: gdm fails after 3.1r2 desktop install

[Phil Hammond]

(1) I had used tasksel to do the installation, selecting desktop only.

(2) from apt-get -s -V install x-window-system:

-

stdout:

Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  x-window-system: Depends: xprt-xprintorg but it is not installable

stderr:

E: Broken packages

-

I have done further testing and it turns out that I may have needed 
only the X server. Installing xserver-xfree86 got me past my original 
problem, which was that gdm could not find a server. Now I'm trying 
to figure out why that one crashes, but I've got some ideas.


Thanks!
PH

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John Miller wrote:

Can you run tasksel?  That would be a painless way to get all the
packages you need.

The point of apt is to resolve dependencies, though, so if
xprt-xprintorg is really necessary for x-window-system, it should come
along for the ride.  If your /etc/apt/sources.list file only has a CD
for its source, though, that could be a problem.

Can you send us the output of 'apt-get install x-window-system' ?  That
would be helpful in solving your problem.

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Sharing /usr

[Thibaut Paumard]

Dear Debian users,

According to the [1]FHS, /usr is supposed to be sharable between
computers, mounted using e.g. NFS. Likewise, /usr/share is supposed to
be sharable between machines of different architectures.
 [1] http://www.pathname.com/fhs/

What would be the preferred way for doing such things under Debian?
Assume I have several i386 boxes and a few sparcs, how would I install
Debian on these machines, upgrade, remove packages... while
sharing /usr/share between all the machines, and /usr between all the
machines of a given arch?

Best regards, Thibaut.
Note: my question is out of curiosity, it's not a real life problem.


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Re: changing user id for all files in a file system

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On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 05:16:25PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
> >sudo find / -uid [old UID] |xargs -i sudo chown [new UID] '{}'
> Shouldn't it be followed by a semicolon?

Had I done

sudo find / -uid [old UID] -exec chown [new UID] '{}' \;

then yes. But with xargs, no.

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Re: Sound with ATI IXP150 AC'97

[Derek]

You need to install alsa-ossOn 6/14/06, Nicolas Sabouret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,I use debian etch on my Compaq laptop and I don't understand how the soundcard works. I installer alsa packages, the sound card was detected andsome applications (like gcompris) work perfectly.However, most other sound application (
e.g. esd) don't work. It appearsthat the system has no /dev/dsp or /dev/audio device (even after aMAKEDEV).I really don't understand what the hell is going on. Can anybody help mesolve this issue or give me any hint ?
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Re: changing user id for all files in a file system

[H.S.]

Stephen R Laniel wrote:


sudo find / -uid [old UID] |xargs -i sudo chown [new UID] '{}'



Shouldn't it be followed by a semicolon?


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Hardware 3D Support

[Max Velasques]

Hi,
 I have a laptop with Debian Sid and I would like to activate the
hardware 3D support.

The video chip is the follow:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM
Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)

My Xorg.conf has the follow lines:

Section "Module"
.
  Load"dbe"
  Load"ddc"
  Load"dri"
  Load"glx"
.
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier  "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
Graphics Device"
  Driver  "i810"
  BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
  Option  "DPMS"
  Option  "RenderAccel" "TRUE"
  Option  "DRI"
EndSection

Section "dri"
  Mode0666
EndSection


The output of "$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep rendering" is

(II) I810(0): direct rendering: Enabled

But the output of "$ glxinfo | grep rendering" is:

direct rendering: No

The module "i915" is loaded.
"drm" and "AGPPart" are active.

$ dmesg | grep agp
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected an Intel 855 Chipset.
agpgart: Detected 32636K stolen memory.
agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xe800


$ dmesg | grep drm
[drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
[drm] Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 0
[drm] Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 1

I already look on the Internet, but I still could not make this work.
So, if someone could help me, will be great!!

Thanks!!

Max

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Mailman and Postfix in Debian Unstable

[Lukas Ruf]

Dear Siggy, dear All,

for any strange reason, postfix rejects emails sent from my
yahoo-Account to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailinglist with the
following message:

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
80.254.163.99 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Relay access denied
Giving up on 80.254.163.99.

I do not understand why!  Until recently, it worked

According to "/etc/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py", I have
configured my postfix installation with

/etc/postfix/main.cf:
relay_domains = lists.lpr.ch
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport.hash
mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1

/etc/postfix/transport.hash:
lists.lpr.ch  mailman:

#> grep lists /etc/bind/db.lpr.ch
lists   IN  MX  5   mail2.lpr.ch.
lists   CNAME   mail2

euphrat:postfix!64> egrep '(MTA|DEB_LISTMASTER)' /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py
# Uncomment this if you configured your MTA such that it
MTA=None   # Misnomer, suppresses alias output on newlist
DEB_LISTMASTER = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
# MTA='Postfix'

I restarted and 'check'ed postfix and mailman several times -- the
same error happens.

Does anybody know what goes wrong?

Thanks for any help!

wbr,
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Re: MP3s from an analog signal ?

[Wackojacko]

Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:

[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]

A friend of mine uses a "user friendly" Windoze box
to record (with permission) radio shows in background,
on a predetermined schedule.  It's the last thing he still
needs Windoze for.

We'd like to replace that setup with a cron-driven
shell script on his Sarge box.

According to the Linux Sound HOWTO, which seems unmaintained,
I can get raw samples from /dev/dsp0 with dd.  This works
on about half the sound cards/motherboards I've tried.
I suspect the rest have some kind of mixer issue, or
maybe the codecs just aren't wired right on those motherboards.

But once we have that raw samples file, we don't know how
to make a usable MP3 out of it.  Searching with Google,
I find a lot of people asking the same question, and people
barking one-word "answers" at them, that don't lead anywhere.

Is there anything in Debian that can take a raw samples
file and turn it into an MP3?
Has some other form of documentation replaced the collection
of HOWTOs at TLDP.org?  Thanks.


Cameron

LAME will do this, google if you need more info.  I use audacity to edit 
the raw wave first and then export as mp3 providing you have the LAME 
libs installed.


HTH

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Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images

[Leonard Chatagnier]

I now have only 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 kernels in my cache
file, while a short time ago I had from 2.4.18-bf2.4
to 2.6.16 and everything in between.  Aptitude removed
a working installed 2.6.15 linux-image before I could
blink and I would like to reinstall it but its not
there. I did do an autoclean but didn't think that
would remove all the linux-images and leave just the
2.6.8 and 2.6.16 in the cache. Would appreciate anyone
telling me how to get all the kernel/linux-images back
int my cache files so I can pick the one I want
instaled. Plz copy my email-not subscribed.

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MP3s from an analog signal ?

[Cameron L. Spitzer]

[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]

A friend of mine uses a "user friendly" Windoze box
to record (with permission) radio shows in background,
on a predetermined schedule.  It's the last thing he still
needs Windoze for.

We'd like to replace that setup with a cron-driven
shell script on his Sarge box.

According to the Linux Sound HOWTO, which seems unmaintained,
I can get raw samples from /dev/dsp0 with dd.  This works
on about half the sound cards/motherboards I've tried.
I suspect the rest have some kind of mixer issue, or
maybe the codecs just aren't wired right on those motherboards.

But once we have that raw samples file, we don't know how
to make a usable MP3 out of it.  Searching with Google,
I find a lot of people asking the same question, and people
barking one-word "answers" at them, that don't lead anywhere.

Is there anything in Debian that can take a raw samples
file and turn it into an MP3?
Has some other form of documentation replaced the collection
of HOWTOs at TLDP.org?  Thanks.


Cameron



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Sound with ATI IXP150 AC'97

[Nicolas Sabouret]

Hi all,

I use debian etch on my Compaq laptop and I don't understand how the sound
card works. I installer alsa packages, the sound card was detected and
some applications (like gcompris) work perfectly.
However, most other sound application (e.g. esd) don't work. It appears
that the system has no /dev/dsp or /dev/audio device (even after a
MAKEDEV).

I really don't understand what the hell is going on. Can anybody help me
solve this issue or give me any hint ?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: changing user id for all files in a file system

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 10:02:43PM +0200, Johannes Zellner wrote:
> is there a simple and fast way to change the user id for all files in
> the file system, say from 1234 to 5000?

sudo find / -uid [old UID] |xargs -i sudo chown [new UID] '{}'

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

[Joey Hess]

Joey Hess wrote:
> set -e

Of course that should have been -x, the point being to see where the
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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Philippe De Ryck]

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 12:33 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On 6/14/06, Michael Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
> > > file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but ever since
> > > I learned that you can just start typing a path, it hasn't bothered
> > > me much. Of course, I also usually just download to ~/Downloads
> > > and if it needs moved, I move it from the command line.
> >
> > Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
> > you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
> > /usr/bin.  Unless they've fixed that recently.  I really don't like
> > typing "/usr/bin/xine" and then waiting a minute for the "OK" button
> > to become clickable.  Well, perhaps not a full minute, but on a 1GHz
> > laptop it's an excruciatingly long wait nonetheless.
> 
> Oh yeah, I always forget about that because SeaMonkey has a
> non-GTK path field for that (you can click on the "Chose" button
> and get the GTK picker, but why would you, unless you forgot the
> path or the name?). Yeah, the "waiting on /usr/bin isssue" is bad
> and needs to be fixed.
> 

I run Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) here (shame on me :)) and it takes long to
load indeed, but I can select the app and click the "open" button while
the contents are loading. This is in Gnome 2.12.1.

Regards

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Re: upgrade only if installed

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 04:00:19PM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> I would like to upgrade a package only if it is installed. If the package is 
> not already installed, I would not want it to be installed. Is this possible? 

There's probably a nice prepackaged way to do it, but you
could first look through the output of
'dpkg --get-selections' for any packages with the specified
name that are installed. So for instance, if you want to
upgrade firefox only if it's installed, you could do

dpkg --get-selections |grep -v 'deinstall\|purge' | cut -f1 |grep '^firefox$'

Using '^firefox$' prevents the command from matching
packages with firefox in their name, like
firefox-gnome-support.

That command will return 0 if it finds anything, 1 if it
doesn't. That should get you on your way.

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Toshiro]

> > > Thanks for that little rant; it made my day. I recently switched from
> > > mozilla to firefox and the new file dialog is driving me up the wall...
> >
> > Ah, if it were only a rant.  The problem is that the Gnomies actually
> > feel they're in the right.
>
> I'd noticed recently that file dialogs were stupid in Firefox, but I hadn't
> realised that it was being imposed on me more generally.  I don't even USE
> Gnome, I use Xfce.  And yet now this stupid file dialog shows up
> everywhere.  Who ARE these people who think they can dictate what happens
> on my computer?  Gnomies, huh?  Well they need to get a clue.

I'm using konqueror since I've found that nasty file dialog (that crap didn't 
even allow me to download in my own home directory, it forced me to use 
Desktop (?) folder).  The only thing I really missed from firefox is 
Tabbrowser extension, hopefully konqueror developers will add some similar 
functionalities in konqueror :)

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changing user id for all files in a file system

[Johannes Zellner]

Hello,

is there a simple and fast way to change the user id for all files in
the file system, say from 1234 to 5000?

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upgrade only if installed

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

I would like to upgrade a package only if it is installed. If the package is 
not already installed, I would not want it to be installed. Is this possible? 

Currently when I use

apt-get install 

apt-get does not distinguish between whether the package has already been 
installed or not. Is there any other program which distinguishes between the 
two?

thanks
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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Joey Hess]

Michael Marsh wrote:
> Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
> you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
> /usr/bin.  Unless they've fixed that recently.  I really don't like
> typing "/usr/bin/xine" and then waiting a minute for the "OK" button
> to become clickable.  Well, perhaps not a full minute, but on a 1GHz
> laptop it's an excruciatingly long wait nonetheless.

Hmm, on my 1.3 ghz laptop it was under 2 tenths of a second (from dry
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Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

[Gustavo Franco]

On 6/14/06, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

(...)
Some DDs don't even acknowledge/close a fixed bug, 3-4 years after its
been fixed.


It's of course not in the Debian's best practices list and you're
welcome to help us fixing the problem sending a summary to
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Re: How to find play length of .ogg file using python?

[Digby Tarvin]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 11:19:08AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> I am writing a program using pygame to play musical sound cues.  I need 
> a way to determine the play length of a sound file.  I can get the 
> length of .mp3 files with python-pymad.  I have also installed 
> python-pyogg and python-pyvorbis.  It seems that I should be able to get 
> the length of .ogg files with one of these packages, but the 
> documentation and examples do not show how.
> 
> I have googled for these packages and basically have found that 
> documentation does not seem to exist, yet.  It was suggesated to check 
> the docs for libvorbis, but I haven't been able to find this, either.
> 
> The output of VorbisFile.info() seems to be an object with various 
> attributes, probably including the play length, but the only attributes 
> shown in the example are channels and rate.  The module is a .so file, 
> so I can not look at python source to determine the other attributes and 
> I would rather not have to download C source code and plow through 
> that.  Is there a list of the attributes for this object, somewhere?
> 
> Can anyone give me an easy way to find the play length of an .ogg file, 
> or point me to where the documentation exists.

I would take a look at the source for the 'ogginfo' command, or if
performance is not important, just parse its output:

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  filename=/home/digbyt/work2/localize/testdata/alphabet.ogg
  header_integrity=pass
  stream_integrity=pass
  file_truncated=false
  version=0
  channels=1
  bitrate_upper=-1000
  bitrate_nominal=128000
  bitrate_lower=-1000
  bitrate_average=84458
  length=59.443084
  playtime=0:59


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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Kelly Clowers]

On 6/14/06, Michael Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
> file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but ever since
> I learned that you can just start typing a path, it hasn't bothered
> me much. Of course, I also usually just download to ~/Downloads
> and if it needs moved, I move it from the command line.

Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
/usr/bin.  Unless they've fixed that recently.  I really don't like
typing "/usr/bin/xine" and then waiting a minute for the "OK" button
to become clickable.  Well, perhaps not a full minute, but on a 1GHz
laptop it's an excruciatingly long wait nonetheless.


Oh yeah, I always forget about that because SeaMonkey has a
non-GTK path field for that (you can click on the "Chose" button
and get the GTK picker, but why would you, unless you forgot the
path or the name?). Yeah, the "waiting on /usr/bin isssue" is bad
and needs to be fixed.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed (solved?)

[Joshua J. Kugler]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 10:51, Charles Hallenbeck wrote (edited):
> changing the symbolic link
> /bin/sh to point to /bin/zsh instead of /bin/bash.
>
> I changed the link to point to /bin/bash again, [ran apt commands
> successfully 
>
> But why? I do upgrades at least once a day, and they usually went
> without a hitch using zsh. But evidently this was somehow the cause of
> the current problem.
>
> It's a little vague to report it as a zsh bug just yet, I think. And I
> am nervous about trying to replicate the problem. So what do I do? give
> up zsh?

I believe the issue is that /bin/sh is expected to be a bourne shell, or at 
least closely compatible.  zsh, "most closely resembles ksh but includes many 
enhancements."  ksh has "command language [that is ] is a superset of the 
sh(1) shell language."  While this means, in theory, ksh should do everything 
sh would do, there might be expected behaviors that zsh (which "resembles" 
ksh) does not live up to.

j

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Michael Marsh]

On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but ever since
I learned that you can just start typing a path, it hasn't bothered
me much. Of course, I also usually just download to ~/Downloads
and if it needs moved, I move it from the command line.


Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
/usr/bin.  Unless they've fixed that recently.  I really don't like
typing "/usr/bin/xine" and then waiting a minute for the "OK" button
to become clickable.  Well, perhaps not a full minute, but on a 1GHz
laptop it's an excruciatingly long wait nonetheless.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

[Charles Hallenbeck]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 02:26:18PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 23:57 +0700, Dave Patterson wrote:
> > * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 12:21:32 -0400]:
> > 
> 
> Chuck needs to have a large scrollback and paste it to here for us to
> understand the entire functional problem.
> 

I have had good luck using "script" to capture as much output as 
necessary. If someone would like to tell me what to run, I'll be happy 
to generate output. But I sure don't want to put my system to risk, now 
that it is resolved.

I have not seen my mail describing the resolution of the problem yet. 
Turns out to be a problem of dueling shells, zsh vs. bash.

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

[Kelly Clowers]

On 6/13/06, Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:07:18PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> It's a shame that people still think of this as a concern:
> For the vast majority of people, I'd suggest that using
> GTK-apps or QT-apps in mutual exclusion is a serious case of
> premature optimisation and such people are missing out on
> some truly great software.

Unfortunately, while there are lots of GTK-based applications that don't
necessarily require Gnome, or can be built to not require Gnome, the same
thing cannot be said for QT-based applications.  I have never found that QT
has wide acceptance outside the KDE community.  Exceptions are applications
like scribus, but those are few and far between.


Don't forget Psi (psi-im.org). Of course I don't know exactly how many people
use it, but it seems to be fairly popular.


Starting a Gnome application ends up starting up gconfd, maybe loading a
comple libraries.  Starting a KDE application leaves you with all sorts of
crap running, that doesn't go away.  Thank you, but I don't need kdeinit
hanging around.


I used to get that problem (kdeinit hanging around), but I don't anymore.
I guess it was fixed in some upgrade.


Finally, I have never seen a KDE app that was worth bothering with.  I'm
sure that someone will throw up k3b, but I'm not about to install all of
KDE just so that I can burn CD's.  I found k3b's cutesy-poo interface
completely off-putting the one time I actually messed with it.


Well, I will mention k3b. And Amarok, Koffice, Quanta+ and Konq
(which is not my main browser or file manager, but still pretty nice).
But to each their own :-)


Of course, there are very few Gnome applications that're worth bothering
with, either.


Evince is the only one I can think of, but I haven't tried F-Spot (I don't
have any photos to speak of), or Epiphany (looks nice, although it
couldn't pull me away from Mozilla/SeaMonkey). Rhythmbox and
Totem seem like they will be good (but not great) if they can fix
the crashing problems they had last time I tried them.

I think both the actual desktops look great, but I get less distracted
when I use boring old Fluxbox (and FB has tabs).

And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but ever since
I learned that you can just start typing a path, it hasn't bothered
me much. Of course, I also usually just download to ~/Downloads
and if it needs moved, I move it from the command line.

Cheers,
Kelly


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Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

[Greg Folkert]

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 15:16 +0200, Juergen Erhard wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 03:27:38AM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> > On Wednesday 14 June 2006 03:04, Brent Clark wrote:
> > > Sorry, couldnt resist
> > >
> > > http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1026
> > 
> > After reading this sentence in the above article
> > 
> > "Once again I should have probably read the manual, but I figured I've done 
> > this before."
> > 
> > I think there is no need to give any importance to his review. IMHO, If 
> > someone does not take time to read a manual then it is not even worth 
> > considering his opinions/rant on a new release.
> 
> I disagree.  It all depends on the target audience.  If you target those of
> little technical inclination, then an upgrade path that requires reading
> upgrade notes for *important* things, is not really a good idea.

So, since GNOME in general is targeting Windows Users, you are saying
that Windows Users just Upgrade all willy nilly and never get burn't?

I have some very catastrophic news for, Average Joe Six-pack Windows
users just go ahead and upgrade to newer versions of windows. Many,
Many, Many of them lose everything and have to re-format and re-install.

Then they can;t get it to work because they don't have drivers for that
new fangled Disk controller supplied with Windows. They then bring the
machine to "Best Buy's Geek Squad" and get charged $300 to re-format and
reload Windows. Even if there was software pre-installed on the machine,
they will not get it back with the R&R.

I have to say, your assumption that any upgrade HAS to go perfect even
for important things, is far from what *IS* happening in the Windows
World Right NOW. Sure, Linux would be nice. But in the long run,
technical knowledge or at least the ability to comprehend what a dialog
says will be and fully is needed to successfully upgrade you OS on your
machine.

We can draw the analogy about computers and cars, Where Windows upgrade
on a computer, would be akin to putting a really different and much more
complicated Engine and transmission in the car. Which one would you
expect to read the manual? Me? I'd expect both. But then I'd also expect
to have to fix many cars with "upgrade" problems, just like I fix many
computers with upgrade problems.

> And generally, here's hoping DD's don't treat bug reports the same way
> (sadly, some do).

Some DDs don't even acknowledge/close a fixed bug, 3-4 years after its
been fixed.
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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed (solved?)

[Charles Hallenbeck]

The strange problem of the "not fully installed or removed" packages I 
have been reporting has been resolved, but I do not understand it.

It seems that a short while ago I have switched shells from bash to zsh 
to explore its new features. I did it gradually, first doing a usermod 
for each of my accounts to make /bin/zsh the login shell, then after 
hammering out an agreeable configuration, changing the symbolic link 
/bin/sh to point to /bin/zsh instead of /bin/bash. 

After looking at those files in /var/lib/dpkg/info mentioned by Dave and 
Joey, I changed the link to point to /bin/bash again, re-ran apt-get -f 
install successfully, then ran apt-get upgrade also successfully, and I 
have a resolved system.

But why? I do upgrades at least once a day, and they usually went 
without a hitch using zsh. But evidently this was somehow the cause of 
the current problem.

It's a little vague to report it as a zsh bug just yet, I think. And I 
am nervous about trying to replicate the problem. So what do I do? give 
up zsh? 

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Re: gnome upgrade

[Vitaliy Ischenko]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:17:22 +0545
"Paras pradhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi all:
> 
> I have a desktop system in which gnome 2.10 is running absoultely fine. I
> have installed it using etch repoistory around 4 months back. Now i see
> there is gnome 2.14 in etch. I want to know how do i upgrade only gnome core
> files from my 2.10 to 2.14 without upgrading my other applications. is
> apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment is the right solution or there is
> another way.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Paras.
> 
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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

[Greg Folkert]

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 06:55 -0400, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> Hi Simone,
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:36:47PM +0200, Simone Soldateschi wrote:
> > 
> > I had a similar problem two days ago trying to update 'libwx2.6-dev' from
> > backports.
> > 'apt-get' failed package upgrade due to  unmet dependencies and I was unable
> > to fix the problem with 'apt -f install'.
> > A debian user suggested me to fix the problem using synaptic and filtering
> > defective packages..  it did the job.
> > 
> 
> 
> I do not have synaptic installed, and can no longer install anything 
> until I get this thing fixed. Catch 22! I'll keep that in mind though.

There is always dpkg-deb

dpkg-deb -X /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%
3a7.0.20_i386.deb /

That will extract and make certain things usable until you can get the
packages correctly installed. Personally I have saved a couple of
peoples machines this way. One fixing an upgrade from Breezy Badger to
Dapper Duck (being of course Ubuntu)... but I digress.

Use of these commands is exceptionally "use at your own risk of blowing
up your machines config, with no sympathy from anyone". So use caution.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Hi Joey,

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:21:32PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> 
> Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common.config and
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/debconf.postinst and add a new line as the second
> line of each script:
> 
> set -e
> 
> Then re-run this apt-get -f install and we should be able to figure out
> what's really wrong.
> 

The first of those files, x11-common.config, does not exist, and the 
other one, debconf.postinst, already has set -e on the second line.

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nvidiia kernel patch with the 2.6.15-486 kernel

[Freddy Freeloader]

Hi all,

I think the kernel number in the subject line is the correct one.  
Anyway, it's the kernel for an AMD 64 cpu with the 32 bit version of 
Etch installed.  What I'm looking to do is install the kernel patch with 
module-assistant but it tells me there is no kernel source for any such 
kernel. 

Has anyone done this?  I have used this same kernel on my laptop and an 
ATI video card, but am definitely having problems getting an nVidia card 
to run with this same kernel on a desktop system.


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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

[Greg Folkert]

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 23:57 +0700, Dave Patterson wrote:
> * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 12:21:32 -0400]:
> 
> :
> > 
> > set -e
> > 
> > Then re-run this apt-get -f install and we should be able to figure out
> > what's really wrong.
> > 
> This will tell you where in the script it's exiting...

Seeing as Joey Hess has a big hand in debconf and many other critical
packages, he wants to see what is really wrong, because the script may
exit in a completely different area than where the script hits the bad
function/command/typo.

Chuck needs to have a large scrollback and paste it to here for us to
understand the entire functional problem.

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How to find play length of .ogg file using python?

[Marc Shapiro]

I am writing a program using pygame to play musical sound cues.  I need 
a way to determine the play length of a sound file.  I can get the 
length of .mp3 files with python-pymad.  I have also installed 
python-pyogg and python-pyvorbis.  It seems that I should be able to get 
the length of .ogg files with one of these packages, but the 
documentation and examples do not show how.


I have googled for these packages and basically have found that 
documentation does not seem to exist, yet.  It was suggesated to check 
the docs for libvorbis, but I haven't been able to find this, either.


The output of VorbisFile.info() seems to be an object with various 
attributes, probably including the play length, but the only attributes 
shown in the example are channels and rate.  The module is a .so file, 
so I can not look at python source to determine the other attributes and 
I would rather not have to download C source code and plow through 
that.  Is there a list of the attributes for this object, somewhere?


Can anyone give me an easy way to find the play length of an .ogg file, 
or point me to where the documentation exists.


TIA

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Re: dvd movie playing

[Wackojacko]

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Hi all the debian listers.

In order to play dvd movies, I downloaded from:

 ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/

the package libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_i386.deb, and want to install it
by hand.
1) How to do so? `apt-get' doesn't do the job.
2) Will that package be enough to play dvd movies (e.g., with totem)?
I have Debian Sarge.

Thanks for any reply,
Rodolfo




dpkg -i  should work, but it would be better to add 
marillat repository to your sources list and use apt-get in order to 
satisfy dependencies.


HTH

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Re: dvd movie playing

[Vitaliy Ischenko]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:25:06 +0200
Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all the debian listers.
> 
> In order to play dvd movies, I downloaded from:
> 
>  ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/
> 
> the package libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_i386.deb, and want to install it
> by hand.
> 1) How to do so? `apt-get' doesn't do the job.
dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_i386.deb
if you will see errors about dependency problems run "apt-get -f install"
> 2) Will that package be enough to play dvd movies (e.g., with totem)?
totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
> I have Debian Sarge.
> 
> Thanks for any reply,
> Rodolfo
P.S. debian-marillat has moved to  http://www.debian-multimedia.org
P.P.S. If you want to install packages from debian-multimedia with apt-get add
"deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main"
to file /etc/apt/sources.list
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dvd movie playing

[Rodolfo Medina]

Hi all the debian listers.

In order to play dvd movies, I downloaded from:

 ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/

the package libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_i386.deb, and want to install it
by hand.
1) How to do so? `apt-get' doesn't do the job.
2) Will that package be enough to play dvd movies (e.g., with totem)?
I have Debian Sarge.

Thanks for any reply,
Rodolfo


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Re: Fwd: Debian sarge 3.1\apache2 not surpport cgi

[John Miller]

What do the server logs say?  The /var/log/apache2 directory, for
instance?  What user is your web server running as?  Can you view
regular HTML files placed in the /~lover/mytest.cgi directory?

--John



Rocky Ou wrote:
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Rocky Ou* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> Date: Jun 6, 2006 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Debian sarge 3.1\apache2 not surpport cgi
> To: Jiann-Ming Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>
>
>
> On 6/6/06, *Jiann-Ming Su* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> On 6/5/06, Rocky Ou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> >
> >y machine support the cgi please
> > ? Any hint will be highly appreciated!
> >
> >  Thanks a lot in advance
> >
>
> Search for "cgi-bin" in the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file.
>
> --
>
>
> Jiann-Ming Su, thanks very much  for your hint! I find the line and
> comment it out as following:
>
> #
> # To use CGI scripts outside /cgi-bin/:
> #
> AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
> #
> Well after that I got the following error:
>
> #
>
>
>   Forbidden
>
> You don't have permission to access /~lover/mytest.cgi on this server.
>
> 
> Apache/2.0.55 (Debian) mod_python/3.2.8 Python/2.3.5 PHP/4.4.2-1+b1
> mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at localhost Port 80
> 
> Though I've did chmod 777  mytest.cgi.
>
> Can anybody help me please?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> Rocky
>
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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

[John Miller]

Apologies for not reading the original message closely enough.  I got
stuck on the 'x11-common' part and didn't pay enough attention to the
debconf error.

If debconf is having trouble, that's really weird.  Perhaps doing a dpkg
-r debconf, then doing a clean reinstall of debconf?  Using wget to
download a fresh .deb of debconf and installing with dpkg -i? 
Reinstalling from your /var/cache/apt/archives?  dpkg-reconfigure
debconf?  I know that there is a reinstall option to apt  That's
about all I know at this point.

--John



John Miller wrote:
> Why not just keep x11-common?  It looks like a whole ton of X libraries
> are already installed.  Otherwise, figure out which programs depend on
> each individual library, either by dpkg --show , or by
> trying to remove each library individually.
>
> Up until a month or two ago (when I gave it away), I ran a console-only
> laptop (sarge, however) that ran into these issues from time to time. 
> I'm just now checking e-mail and saw the words 'reinstall' float by
>
>
>
> Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
>   
>> Hi Joris,
>>
>> When I add either the --force-depends or the --force-all option to the 
>> dpkg --purge x11-common command, they also fail to remove the package. 
>> When I then do an apt-get -f install, I get the same familiar failure as 
>> I reported earlier.
>>
>> I may have to save what I can and reinstall my system, although there 
>> has GOT to be a better way. I am beginning to think like a Windows user, 
>> and I have never been one! 
>>
>> Chuck
>>
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Message-ID Suffix Change Mozilla Thunderbird

[Anthony Simonelli]

I'm using Mozilla-Thunderbird with my MS Exchange IMAP
server at work.  When I send an email to the Internet,
my Postfix MTA gives the following message:

forged name in Message-ID: header: 

and rejects the email.  I've successfully sent email
from Kmail by changing the Message-ID Suffix in the
Composing settings but I can't find a similar setting
with Thunderbird.  Any ideas?  Maybe found in about:config?


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