Re: system heavy load

2006-07-11 Thread Dave Patterson
* Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-11 21:34:53 -0400]:

 
> I would start simpler than that.  Make sure that DMA is enabled on your
> hard drive(s).
> 
It is:

# hdparm /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
multcount=  0 (off)
IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
unmaskirq=  0 (off)
using_dma=  1 (on)
keepsettings =  0 (off)
readonly =  0 (off)
readahead= 256 (on)
geometry = 16383/255/63, sectors = 195371568, start = 0

And still, occaisionally I see the same style system loading as the
original poster mentioned.  I've been curious about this for a while.

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Re: How to create autorunning CD?

2006-07-11 Thread Johannes Wiedersich

Indraveni wrote:

Hi,

I want to know how to create an autorunning CD in Linux especially

debian Linux. As soon as I insert the CD it opens up in a browser in my
system but along with this i also want a script to run automatically or
some html page should open.. Like in windows we create this using
autorun.inf file is there any method to do in Linux.


Can anyone give me any ideas about this sort of work pleaese? >


Some people argue that enabling autorunning CDs is a feature, but in 
fact in most of the cases it is a security hole, if anyone can run 
programs on your computer by just inserting a CD[1]. Therefore any kind 
of autorun is disabled in linux by default, no matter what you put on a CD.


So, the computer on which the CD is to be run has to explicitly 
configured to enable actions on inserting CDs. I've never done this 
myself, but one way to do it could be to add some udev rule. See

$ man udev
for a starter on that topic. Also try
$ apt-cache search autorun

The advantage of this approach is that you could specify exactly what 
kind of programs you would like to allow to be run from a CD.


HTH, Johannes

[1] or if anyone can put a secret program on a CD that gets executed 
(later hosing your system) when you insert that unsuspicious looking 
audio CD.



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Re: 2.6 kernel image for AMD-K6-2

2006-07-11 Thread Eduard Bloch
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* Joop [Wed, Jul 12 2006, 03:47:18AM]:
> Maybe I got it wrong since I am a bit new to the scene.
> But this is what I did.

You got it wrong. That's about the linux-image-... kernel packages which
have only few profiles, not including -k5, -k6 and many others.

Eduard.


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Re: Why?

2006-07-11 Thread Ron Johnson
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> Good Lord...I can see how the spiral was chosen.  Was the contest
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> DG logo, and that looks like something for Amalgamated
> Consolidated, Inc.

Ah, you just triggered a memory.  /Robocop/.  The DG logo reminds me
of the OCP logo,

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Re: No sound on flash movies

2006-07-11 Thread Wulfy

Iván Alemán wrote:

Yes, you're right in order to use "aoss" you need to be using alsa,
follow the intructions here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75237 
I did that and now my sound is back!  Thanks, Iván!  And everyone else 
who answered!


Well it was... I have a slow dial-up so flash movies take forever to 
load.  I usually stop them until they're fully loaded so I don't get 
them in little bits.  I restarted the movie and no sound...  :(


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Re: xfce panel missing on startup

2006-07-11 Thread Chris
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 22:38, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 09:51:27PM +0200, Chris wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i have xfce4 installed as below.  With some users on my system it works
> > as expected, with another user it seems to start, but there are no panels
> > and no mouse buttons result in any menus.  I am using kdm.
> >
> > I tried removeing .config and .cache but something still seems to be
> > wrong.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions what the problem might be?
>
> maybe there is something in ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession that is
> conflicting? hmmm... does kdm even look at these though?

I don't see either in ~/

Strange.  With a newly created user it works fine.  Logon using kdm, I can 
start kde and xfce sessions fine.

The home directory of the user with the problem is old and full of all sorts 
of .* directories and files.

Thanks,

C


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Re: No sound on flash movies

2006-07-11 Thread Wulfy

Jochen Schulz wrote:

Wulfy:
  

Jochen Schulz wrote:


Iván Alemán:
  
  

While a flash movie loads very well on firefox, I can't get any sound,


I solved this problem a few days ago by editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc.
Since I am not using a sound daemon (I don't use Gnome or KDE), I put
"aoss" in there.
  
I have the same problem. I use KDE.  What should I put in there?  I 
tried "aoss", "artsd" and "alsa" but they don't work...



For "aoss" to work, you need to have alsa-oss installed (and use Alsa,
obviously). Maybe that's missing. I don't know whether KDE still uses a
sound daemon.

J.
  

I have these installed:

Yewdales-lodge:~# dpkg -l alsa*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
uppercase=bad)

||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  alsa-base  1.0.8-7ALSA driver 
configuration files
ii  alsa-oss   1.0.8-1ALSA wrapper for OSS 
applications

ii  alsa-utils 1.0.8-4ALSA utilities
ii  alsamixergui   0.9.0rc2-1-7   graphical soundcard 
mixer for ALSA soundcard driver
ii  libwine-alsa   0.9.7-0bpo1Windows API 
Implementation (ALSA Sound Module)



As I use the 2.6 kernel, I don't need the -modules, I don't think.

I think KDE uses the artsd sound daemon.


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Re: No sound on flash movies

2006-07-11 Thread Iván Alemán

Yes, you're right in order to use "aoss" you need to be using alsa,
follow the intructions here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75237




On 7/12/06, Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Wulfy:
> Jochen Schulz wrote:
>> Iván Alemán:
>>
>>> While a flash movie loads very well on firefox, I can't get any sound,
>>
>> I solved this problem a few days ago by editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc.
>> Since I am not using a sound daemon (I don't use Gnome or KDE), I put
>> "aoss" in there.
>
> I have the same problem. I use KDE.  What should I put in there?  I
> tried "aoss", "artsd" and "alsa" but they don't work...

For "aoss" to work, you need to have alsa-oss installed (and use Alsa,
obviously). Maybe that's missing. I don't know whether KDE still uses a
sound daemon.

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Re: disappearing text in gtk apps in upgraded Sid

2006-07-11 Thread Andrew Green




I just tried turning ON anti-aliasing in the Gnome font preferences dialogue, and the problem went away. But... err... I hate using anti-aliased fonts in my UI... ! Where should I look to try to get non-anti-aliased fonts to work again?

El mié, 12-07-2006 a las 00:00 -0500, Andrew Green escribió:

Help! I just upgraded my Sid box, and all of a sudden all of my gtk-based apps, including the Nautilus-run desktop, are behaving all wonky. Basically in menus and widgets of all kinds, including text areas, most text is invisible after the first space of any line. Then when the control is highlighted, or when I select text in a text area, the missing text is suddenly visible again. This does not happen with OpenOffice, nor with KDE apps, nor with gtk apps running on a different machine and forwarded over to the X server on this machine. It _does_ happen with Firefox. I have no idea where to start looking for the problem. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Andrew





Re: hostname for sqwebmail

2006-07-11 Thread Ken Moffat
Found this old post and wondered if there is an answer to setting the 
hostname on outgoing posts for sqwebmail. My outgoing smtp mail uses  
the local box hostname instead of the fully qualified domain name of the 
server.



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Re: No sound on flash movies

2006-07-11 Thread Jochen Schulz
Wulfy:
> Jochen Schulz wrote:
>> Iván Alemán:
>>   
>>> While a flash movie loads very well on firefox, I can't get any sound,
>> 
>> I solved this problem a few days ago by editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc.
>> Since I am not using a sound daemon (I don't use Gnome or KDE), I put
>> "aoss" in there.
>
> I have the same problem. I use KDE.  What should I put in there?  I 
> tried "aoss", "artsd" and "alsa" but they don't work...

For "aoss" to work, you need to have alsa-oss installed (and use Alsa,
obviously). Maybe that's missing. I don't know whether KDE still uses a
sound daemon.

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disappearing text in gtk apps in upgraded Sid

2006-07-11 Thread Andrew Green




Help! I just upgraded my Sid box, and all of a sudden all of my gtk-based apps, including the Nautilus-run desktop, are behaving all wonky. Basically in menus and widgets of all kinds, including text areas, most text is invisible after the first space of any line. Then when the control is highlighted, or when I select text in a text area, the missing text is suddenly visible again. This does not happen with OpenOffice, nor with KDE apps, nor with gtk apps running on a different machine and forwarded over to the X server on this machine. It _does_ happen with Firefox. I have no idea where to start looking for the problem. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Andrew




How to create autorunning CD?

2006-07-11 Thread Indraveni
Hi, I want to know how to create an autorunning CD in Linux especially debian Linux. As soon as I insert the CD it opens up in a browser in my system but along with this i also want a script to run automatically or some html page should open.. Like in windows we create this using autorun.inf file is there any method to do in Linux.Can anyone give me any ideas about this sort of work pleaese? Regards, K.Indraveni, Project Engineer, CDAC -Chennai. 
	

	
		 
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Keyboard no working after Debian kernel upgrade from 2.4.27-2 to 2.6.8-3

2006-07-11 Thread Faaiez Sallie
Hi Guys


Excuse me. I am a new user to Debian so forgive any errors.
I have recently installed Debian 3.1R2 onto a Fujitsu Siemens S6010 lifebook.
This installed kernel 2.4.27-2. Everything worked perfectly except for the
sound.
I read somewhere that upgrading the kernel would solve this problem.
I then ran ‘aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8-3’ command to install a
newer kernel.
After rebooting into the newer kernel the keyboard did not work on the
logon screen in X.
The keyboard does not work in recovery mode at the command prompt either.
I have tried ‘dpkg-reconfigure console-data’ as well as ‘dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xfree86’ without any success.

Any assistance to solve this problem will be appreciated.

Regards



Faaiez


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Re: dell poweredge 830

2006-07-11 Thread Mihira Fernando

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

its got, more or less: 


intel p4, 2GB, 2x 187GB scsi drives, integrated XGI XG20 VGA
controller, unknown integrated gigabit NIC.

I'm mostly concerned about hardware support and mystery devices that
don't "just work" on this machine. 

Better get a NIC that is known to work with Debian.

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dell poweredge 830

2006-07-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
okay gang, help me out here. I've got a buddy coming over tomorrow
with a dell poweredge 830. So, he calls and asks if i have any windows
server software for his sweet new server for hishouse. I laugh and say
(as i do every time I talk to him), why don't you put linux on
it... well, he's finally taken the bait, and tomorrow is the
day... hopefully new convert on the way...

So, i've googled around a bit and I haven't seen any showstoppers for
putting debian on this box except maybe the SATA drive support in
sarge. he claims to only have scsi in the thing, but we'll see. I've
got both sarge and etch beta2 netinst.iso's ready to go.

my question: are there any gotcha's I haven't seen in my research that
you all know about that would prevent an easy clean install on a
poweredge 830? 

its got, more or less: 

intel p4, 2GB, 2x 187GB scsi drives, integrated XGI XG20 VGA
controller, unknown integrated gigabit NIC.

I'm mostly concerned about hardware support and mystery devices that
don't "just work" on this machine. 

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Re: Why?

2006-07-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Chris Mattern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Jul 11 20:26 -0500]:

> >Some of the other logos considered can be seen at:
> >http://www.debian.org/vote/1999/vote_0004
> 
> Good Lord...I can see how the spiral was chosen.  Was
> the contest fixed?  The only other one that wasn't
> godawful butt-ugly was the DG logo, and that looks
> like something for Amalgamated Consolidated, Inc.

There weren't many graphics artists around F/OSS back then...

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Re: Why?

2006-07-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
* John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Jul 11 13:51 -0500]:
> Nate Bargmann writes:
> > The Debian Project, itself a part of the GNU project, or at least tightly
> > affiliated with it...
> 
> Debian was briefly affiliated with the FSF at the beginning but the
> association was dissolved before 1.1 came out.

Very well.  I knew there was a connection some time back.  Thanks for
the update.

> > A few years later, TrollTech changed the license on Qt to the "more free"
> > GPL thus leapfrogging the "lesser" LGPL.  Despite this...
> 
> Despite what?  Both are completely DFSG compliant.  There is no question of
> one being "more free" than the other.

For some time it didn't seem to matter, how Free either was, in some
minds the old Qt/KDE situation could not be forgotten.  There are
likely many remants still to be found via Google, etc.

> > ...old attitudes have been slow to change and Debian, for whatever
> > reason(s), still prefers GNOME over KDE at installation.

I recently performed a Net Install on a new machine.  Ordinarilly I
manually choose the packages I want.  That time I was feeling
lazy/adventuresome and chose the Desktop task.  I don't recall ever
being prompted to choose a DE and GNOME was the default which I spent a
fair amount of time expunging.  I agree that something needs to be the
default, but I expect that to take the form of a dialog with an
explanation/recommendation if it's deemed necessary.

> The reason is that there is no reason to change.  One or the other has to
> be the default: should we toss a coin?

No reason to change what?  I find GNOME not to my liking.  Perhaps it
is all well to introduce the rank newcomer and train them in the GNOME
way, but I have used a number of similar environments over the years
and KDE for a DE and IceWM for a simple WM suit me best.  As far as
the installer goes, everything else is second behind GNOME.

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extracting files from old DAT tape

2006-07-11 Thread Haines Brown
On a sarge machine, I have a WangDAT 3100 tape drive from the late
1990s. The tape from which I would like to recover certain files was
made back in 1998 with bru.

I loaded the module for it:

  # insmod st
  $ lsmod | grep st
st  29112   0 (unused)
scsi_mod95108   4 (autoclean) [st ide-scsi sd_mod aic7xxx]

  $ cat /proc/scsi/scsi 
Host: scsi0  Channel: 00  Id: 02  Lun: 00
  Vender: WangDAT   Model: Model 3100  Rev: 02.2
  Type: Sequential Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02

I insert a tape, the LED blinks many times and then remains on.

  # mt -f /dev/st0 status
drive type = Generic SCSI-2 tape
drive status = 318767616
sense key error = 0
file number = -1
block number = -1
Tape block size 512 byte. Density code 0x13 (DDS (61000 bpi)).
Soft error count since last status = 0
General status bits on (101); ONLINE IM_REP_EN

Now (in my ignorance) I tried:

  # tar xvf /dev/st0  *.xyz
tar: /dev/st0: Cannot read: Input/output error
tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

When I tried the tvf options for tar, I get the same result.

Can I extract individual files this way from a tape made in the first
place with bru?

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Re: Sarge and Athlon 64

2006-07-11 Thread Damon L. Chesser

Dave Ewart wrote:

On Tuesday, 11.07.2006 at 02:02 -0700, michael bailey wrote:

  
 I am interested in obtaining a new motherboard and 
 CPU. The current CPU is a Pentium III and runs Debian

Sarge (kernel 2.4.27-3-686). I am thinking of getting
an Athlon 64 as the new CPU. 


 Does anyone please know what updates would be needed
to the current kernel in order to use the Athlon 64 ?
I would obviously like to still use all my current 32
bit software and data.



The simplest option is to just install a 2.6.x-series amd64 kernel and
keep your 32-bit system.  Unless you "need" the extra facilities which
64-bit systems give you, you will find the whole setup much simpler just
doing this.  No faffing about with chroots either :-)

Dave.
  

Dave,

by "just install a 2.6.x-series amd64 kernel" do you mean that if you 
boot a 64bit kernel, you can run a 32bit system?


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Re: 2.6 kernel image for AMD-K6-2

2006-07-11 Thread Joop
Maybe I got it wrong since I am a bit new to the scene.
But this is what I did.

Download the latest 2.6.17 kernel source from kernel.org.
unpack in your sources directory.
make menuconfig
goto processor type and features
select processor familly and ypu are in business.

running happely kernel 2.6.17.X on my K6-2 box

Joop

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Subject: Re: 2.6 kernel image for AMD-K6-2


#include 
* Andrew Sackville-West [Mon, Jul 10 2006, 09:34:17AM]:
> On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:09:41AM -0700, Helen Easthope wrote:
> > Debian users,
> >
> > Is there a straightforward way to get a 2.6 kernel image for an
> > AMD-K6 machine?  The 2.4 image works fine but the 2.6 AMD-K7
> > image fails on this Compaq Presario 5330.
>
> I think you want the -686 kernels. THere seems to be no k6 in the 2.6
> series.

AFAIK no, IIRC Athlon was the first fully 686 compatible processor. You
can go with the -386 kernel instead, IMHO you won't loose much by using
it instead of -k6.

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Re: system heavy load

2006-07-11 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Dave Patterson wrote:
> * Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-11 18:01:24 -0400]:
> 
>  
> 
>>Top is quite reliable.  The load average represents how many processes
>>are ready to run.  If everything is trying to access the disk, your CPU
>>utilization will be low (at least less than 100%) and yet you will have
>>a high load average since many processes will be stuck waiting for the disk.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> Would it improve performance in this case to run a kernel with a different
> preemption model, or would it make more sense to try different i/o
> schedulers (anticipatory, deadline, or cfq) ?
> 

I would start simpler than that.  Make sure that DMA is enabled on your
hard drive(s).

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Re: Why?

2006-07-11 Thread Chris Mattern
> 
> Where did you get that logo?  When it came up on the

> gnome desktop it immediatlely reminded me of
> something being flushed down the drain.  I hope it
> doesn't mean that!




Actually, the logo is a logarithmic spiral, which has
the interesting property that it employs what the
Greeks called the Golden Ratio (an irrational number
approximated by 0.618) which is found all over nature
and man-made objects, from the ratios of body size
generally considered attractive to the slope of the
Great Pyramid at Gizeh (or is it Giza, I can never
remember which is right). Thus the logo represents
Debian's rightful place at the centre of the universe.
Uh huh.



Some of the other logos considered can be seen at:
http://www.debian.org/vote/1999/vote_0004


Good Lord...I can see how the spiral was chosen.  Was
the contest fixed?  The only other one that wasn't
godawful butt-ugly was the DG logo, and that looks
like something for Amalgamated Consolidated, Inc.


Chris Mattern


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Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-11 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2006-07-11 23:49:23 -, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Note: you shouldn't use the ncurses that come with Mac OS X. They are
> > buggy.
> 
> hmm - to the best of my knowledge, the "ncurses that come with Mac OS X"
> are some version of ncurses, just like Debian/stable, Debian/testing, etc.

This is version 5.4. Recompiling ncurses 5.5 (and Mutt) fixes the
problem. I don't know if it was specific to Mac OS X.

> Are you concerned with a specific bug, or is this just a suggestion to
> use Linux instead?

A specific bug: with Mutt, the thread display could lead to garbage
(line graphics) on the screen. I could write a testcase to reproduce
the problem.

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Re: system heavy load

2006-07-11 Thread Dave Patterson
* Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-11 18:01:24 -0400]:

 
> Top is quite reliable.  The load average represents how many processes
> are ready to run.  If everything is trying to access the disk, your CPU
> utilization will be low (at least less than 100%) and yet you will have
> a high load average since many processes will be stuck waiting for the disk.
> 


Would it improve performance in this case to run a kernel with a different
preemption model, or would it make more sense to try different i/o
schedulers (anticipatory, deadline, or cfq) ?

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Re: Horrible performance: hdparm

2006-07-11 Thread Joey Hess
Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 06:10:37PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Rich Johnson wrote:
> > > Judging from the lackadaisical disk LED activity, I doubt it's the disk.
> > 
> > Disk issues can lead to apparently low disk activity in some situations,
> > and it's the first thing I'd check: Make sure that DMA is on, make sure
> > that hdparm is optimally tuned, etc.
> > 
> > -- 
> > see shy jo
> 
> If installation guru has to tell this, is not it time to make this as
> default?

Note that the mail I replied to was about an apparently quite old
machine of the sort where the kernel sometimes conservatively doesn't
default DMA to on. That doesn't affect modern machines, AFAIK.

> We have written out 386 machines.

Parse error, especially given the above.

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Re: Why?

2006-07-11 Thread Dave Patterson
* John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-11 13:29:35 -0500]:


> The reason is that there is no reason to change.  One or the other has to
> be the default: should we toss a coin?

Maybe battlebots to the death...

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Re: Howto fix grub after converting to reiserfs

2006-07-11 Thread Matthew Dawson
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On Tuesday 11 July 2006 17:03, marc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a little problem :-o
>
> Machine has Windows on sda2 vfat, which is the MBR. (sda1 is not used),
> Linux on sda3, sda4 contains sda5 swap, sda6 ext Linux, sda7 is vfat
> shared space.
>
> Here's the story, so far
>
> - moved Linux (on sda3) to a safe place while booted on another
> partition (sda6)
> - formatted sda3 as reiserfs
> - amended both fstabs (sda3 and sda6)
> - mounted the newly formatted sda3 partition
> - moved the data back onto sda3
> - rebooted.
>
> Grub currently loads from /boot on sda3, or rather it doesn't now. I'm
> getting an error 17 : Cannot mount selected partition. I'm not overly
> surprised, but I'm not sure what to do next.
>
> I can mount the partition from a live CD without a problem, and I
> obviously mounted it from my sda6 partition.
>
> Suggestions welcomed.
>
> --
> Best,
> Marc

It would seem that grub only embeded support for ext2, which is what it should 
do because the partition was ext (it uses ext2 support for both ext3 and 
ext2).  What you have to do is embed the reiserfs support.
Try mounting the all the partitions as normal from a livecd, then chrooting 
into it and running update-grub.  That should fix the problem.
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Re: No sound on flash movies

2006-07-11 Thread Derek
I remember I had no sound in flash videos once,turns out I had jackd running.On 7/11/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Iván Alemán wrote:>> I have the same problem. I use KDE.  What should I put in there?  I
>> tried "aoss", "artsd" and "alsa" but they don't work...>> Try restarting firefox, I edited /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and changed to> "aoss" and it didn't work until I restarted the computer (in my case
> and by accident) but just restarting firefox should work fine.>> RegardsI restarted firefox after each change.  As I said, it didn't work...  :(--BlessingsWulfmannWulf Credo:
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[KDE] Save the whole session

2006-07-11 Thread Iván Alemán

Hello,


From day to day I open konqueror and firefox and happens that

konqueror saves all the tabs / pages you have visited when you close
the session and/or the computer in normally halted and then those
konquerors load again automatically when you turn-on/restart the
computer, the same happens with firefox of course this time using an
extension called "SessionSaver", everything is good with this trust
me, but here's a question

how can I export all the konqueror windows to another computer?

Of course without having to bookmark each page,  do I have to copy
something from /tmp directory like kde-username or from my home
directory.

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Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You should set TERM to 'macosx'. If things don't work, just fix them
> in the terminfo data and rerun tic.

that's more/less what I was advising.

> Note: you shouldn't use the ncurses that come with Mac OS X. They are
> buggy.

hmm - to the best of my knowledge, the "ncurses that come with Mac OS X"
are some version of ncurses, just like Debian/stable, Debian/testing, etc.

While I recall a handful of platform-specific bugs, there's no reason
why he can't use the terminfo, etc.

Are you concerned with a specific bug, or is this just a suggestion to
use Linux instead?

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Re: No sound on flash movies

2006-07-11 Thread Wulfy

Iván Alemán wrote:

I have the same problem. I use KDE.  What should I put in there?  I
tried "aoss", "artsd" and "alsa" but they don't work...


Try restarting firefox, I edited /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and changed to
"aoss" and it didn't work until I restarted the computer (in my case
and by accident) but just restarting firefox should work fine.

Regards 

I restarted firefox after each change.  As I said, it didn't work...  :(

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Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
Ian Brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, meant for this to go to the list (why no Reply-To?)...

tin doesn't post to email (I often followup with the same information)

> Thomas Dickey wrote:

> First off thank you for such a helpful response!

>>> "pretty garbled" could be more than one thing...

> Here are some screen shots:

> 

>>> Backing up a little, I'd edit that line to show
>>>
>>> macosx|generic color xterm,
>>>
>>> and remove the $HOME/.terminfo/x/xterm-color and
>>> $HOME/.terminfo/n/nxterm,
>>> rerun tic.  Then
>>>
>>> infocmp macosx xterm-color
>>>
>>> would show whatever changes were made other than the sgr string.

> Here is the result:

> $ infocmp macosx xterm-color
> comparing macosx to xterm-color.
> comparing booleans.
> comparing numbers.
> comparing strings.
> hts: '\EH', NULL.
> is2: '\E7\E[r\E[m\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E8\E>',
>  '\E[m\E[?7h\E[4l\E>\E7\E[r\E[?1;3;4;6l\E8'.
> kdch1: '\E[3~', '\177'.
> kend: NULL, '\E[4~'.
> kfnd: '\E[1~', NULL.
> khome: NULL, '\E[1~'.
> kslt: '\E[4~', NULL.
> meml: NULL, '\El'.
> memu: NULL, '\Em'.
> rs2: '\E7\E[r\E8\E[m\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E>',
>  '\E[m\E[?7h\E[4l\E>\E7\E[r\E[?1;3;4;6l\E8'.

ok.  Much of this is benign.  Note that is2 and rs2 are for instance just
altered order.  The macosx flavor is older.  khome/kend and kfnd/kslt are
again an older choice (modeled on vt220) versus the newer preference.

kdch1 is like backspace/delete one of the troublesome things, since it's
not the "backspace" key but the "Delete" key on the small editing keypad.
screen will do odd things if it has the same string as kbs.

>>> xterm-color is almost certainly technically incorrect because it's
>>> unlikely that Terminal was designed to match that set of data.

> I agree.

>>> Running on Debian, you should be able to use tack (part of ncurses)
>>> to step through the features.  I'd expect some differences on the
>>> color model for instance.  Seeing the test fail for either flavor
>>> of "xterm-color" should help a little.

> I'll try to learn my way around tack's tests and follow up with a
> meaningful log.

>>> Since xterm-color was not designed to match Terminal, any
>>> differences here aren't going to be applied to ncurses.  (In
>>> articular, I recall some complaints that the backspace/delete
>>> settings don't match Debian).  But it would be useful to have an
>>> accurate terminal description for Terminal.
>>>
>>> Supposedly we already have this - the nsterm entries that have
>>> been in ncurses since 2001.  There were some minor fixes to those
>>> early this year - see
>>>
>>> ftp://invisible-island.net/ncurses/terminfo.src.gz

> I compiled your terminfo on my Debian box, and ssh'd over with TERM
> set to 'nsterm'.  A few initial observations:

>   - Color is lost at the Bash prompt.

bash on Debian?  odd - since I thought it would be using ncurses (actually
the termcap interface).  It may be special-casing $TERM by comparing for
something containing "xterm".

>   - Horizontal borders in Aptitude (e.g. in the search or quit
> dialogs) become '?' characters.

This is more interesting.  Those dashes look like they're double-width.  I have
a hunch that your locale on Debian is set to a UTF-8 flavor and that aptitude
is emitting line-drawing in UTF-8, but that Terminal isn't doing the Right
Thing with that.  A quick check with uxterm shows me that aptitude sends
_something_ in UTF-8.

I seem to recall reading that Terminal can handle UTF-8, so given that, one of
these possibilities comes to mind:

a) the OS X locale isn't UTF-8 (and Terminal gets confused)

b) Terminal works for UTF-8 text, but not line-drawing (chooses
   an incorrect set of glyphs for mapping the line-drawing text).

>   - Delete works at the bash prompt, but in Aptitude it prints '^[[3~'.
>   - Backspace works in Aptitude, whereas with xterm-color it printed '^?'.


Your stty settings might not match the nsterm terminfo entry.  Bear in
mind that for *BSD the general rule is

stty erase \^H

while Debian does

stty erase \^?

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Re: Can't mount cdrom after cdrecord installation

2006-07-11 Thread Mumia W.
Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> I've just installed cdrecord in my Debian Sarge r2,
> and then changed in menu.lst the line:
> 
> kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-686 root=/dev/hda6 ro 
> 
> into:
> 
>  kernel   /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-686 root=/dev/hda6 ro 
> hdb=ide-scsi ro hdc=ide-scsi ro hdd=ide-scsi 
> 
> , but then when I try to mount a cdrom, as usual, with `mount /cdrom',
> I get the following:
> 
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
>missing codepage or other error
>(could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
>ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)
>In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
>dmesg | tail  or so
> 
> . I'm quite lost here, could anyone suggest what to do?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rodolfo
> 
> 

Since you're using Linux 2.4.x, you'll want the CD-ROM
on ide-scsi, so it should appear as /dev/sr0 (or
perhaps /dev/sr1).

I'm using 2.4.27 also, and this is my setup:

%%FILESYSTEM:
/cdrom -> /media/cdrom
/media/cdrom/ -> /media/cdrom0

%%%/etc/fstab:
/dev/sr0  /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0

I remember that originally, /dev/hdc was the cdrom
drive, and I had to manually change it to /dev/sr0 for
cd-writing to work.

Perhaps when you installed cdrecord, some script
decided to automagically fix your fstab, but messed it
up instead, so check that out.



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Re: No sound on flash movies

2006-07-11 Thread Iván Alemán

I have the same problem. I use KDE.  What should I put in there?  I
tried "aoss", "artsd" and "alsa" but they don't work...


Try restarting firefox, I edited /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and changed to
"aoss" and it didn't work until I restarted the computer (in my case
and by accident) but just restarting firefox should work fine.

Regards

On 7/11/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jochen Schulz wrote:
> Iván Alemán:
>
>> While a flash movie loads very well on firefox, I can't get any sound,
>>
>
> I solved this problem a few days ago by editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc.
> Since I am not using a sound daemon (I don't use Gnome or KDE), I put
> "aoss" in there.
I have the same problem. I use KDE.  What should I put in there?  I
tried "aoss", "artsd" and "alsa" but they don't work...

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Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-11 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2006-07-11 12:09:45 -0700, Ian Brandt wrote:
[...]
> >> Backing up a little, I'd edit that line to show
> >>
> >> macosx|generic color xterm,
> >>
> >> and remove the $HOME/.terminfo/x/xterm-color and
> >> $HOME/.terminfo/n/nxterm,
> >> rerun tic.  Then
> >>
> >>infocmp macosx xterm-color
> >>
> >> would show whatever changes were made other than the sgr string.
> 
> Here is the result:
> 
> $ infocmp macosx xterm-color
> comparing macosx to xterm-color.
> comparing booleans.
> comparing numbers.
> comparing strings.
> hts: '\EH', NULL.
> is2: '\E7\E[r\E[m\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E8\E>',
> '\E[m\E[?7h\E[4l\E>\E7\E[r\E[?1;3;4;6l\E8'.
> kdch1: '\E[3~', '\177'.
> kend: NULL, '\E[4~'.
> kfnd: '\E[1~', NULL.
> khome: NULL, '\E[1~'.
> kslt: '\E[4~', NULL.
> meml: NULL, '\El'.
> memu: NULL, '\Em'.
> rs2: '\E7\E[r\E8\E[m\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E>',
> '\E[m\E[?7h\E[4l\E>\E7\E[r\E[?1;3;4;6l\E8'.
[...]
> I compiled your terminfo on my Debian box, and ssh'd over with TERM
> set to 'nsterm'.  A few initial observations:
> 
>   - Color is lost at the Bash prompt.
>   - Horizontal borders in Aptitude (e.g. in the search or quit
> dialogs) become '?' characters.
>   - Delete works at the bash prompt, but in Aptitude it prints '^[[3~'.
>   - Backspace works in Aptitude, whereas with xterm-color it printed '^?'.

You should set TERM to 'macosx'. If things don't work, just fix them
in the terminfo data and rerun tic.

Note: you shouldn't use the ncurses that come with Mac OS X. They are
buggy.

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Re: CPU temperature question

2006-07-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 15:02, gustavo halperin wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have a temperature question. When I'm working, normally I see in a
> file '/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' something between 51 C
> to 55 C.  It is not to much ?? If it is a problem, what can I do about ?

Your CPU manual can tell you the normal operating range for your CPU.  
Generally under 70°C is where you want to be for most newer CPUs, and under 
60°C for anything more than about 4 years old.

>  Another question, if I run the 'xsensors' application I see for example
> M/B Temp: 52.0 C and CPU Temp: 50.5 C, but if I run 'torsmo' application
> I see CPU Temp: 50.5 C and MB Temp: 52.0 C. So what is the right
> temperature and what is the temperature represented in a file
> '/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature'  ??

Depending on what your machine is doing when either of those programs are run, 
they both very well could be correct.

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Re: Horrible performance: hdparm

2006-07-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 00:11, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 July 2006 19:01, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > What you *can* do that would be helpful (and really, this would be
> > best fixed in the kernel as well) is to set -u 1 by default, but
> > don't change -d (dma).
>
> Please file a wishlist bugreport against debian-installer if you really
> feel this should happen.

On second thoughts, doing this would probably mean messing with the config 
files of another package, so probably the bug report should go to hdparm 
itself...


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Re: Horrible performance: hdparm

2006-07-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 19:01, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> What you *can* do that would be helpful (and really, this would be best
> fixed in the kernel as well) is to set -u 1 by default, but don't
> change -d (dma).

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Re: changing icon theme in debian without a DE installed?

2006-07-11 Thread Nick Lidakis

Liam O'Toole wrote:





You have two choices:

1. Keep your copy of ~/.gtkrc-2.0 (which looks like it was written by
the theme switcher) and put further customisations in
~/.gtkrc.mine

2. Replace the contents of ~/.gtkrc-2.0 with the following:

gtk-theme-name="Clearlooks_Cairo-Breathe"
gtk-font-name="Verdana 10"
gtk-icon-theme-name="Industrial"

and don't use the theme switcher again.

The second option certainly gives cleaner output.

  

Thanks. That is exactly what I wanted to do.

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CPU temperature question

2006-07-11 Thread gustavo halperin

Hello

I have a temperature question. When I'm working, normally I see in a 
file '/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' something between 51 C 
to 55 C.  It is not to much ?? If it is a problem, what can I do about ?


Another question, if I run the 'xsensors' application I see for example 
M/B Temp: 52.0 C and CPU Temp: 50.5 C, but if I run 'torsmo' application 
I see CPU Temp: 50.5 C and MB Temp: 52.0 C. So what is the right 
temperature and what is the temperature represented in a file  
'/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature'  ??


  Another question, is a good Idea to modify the file 
'/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points' maybe to something like: ' 
echo -n "100:0:90:80:47" > /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points'


 There are some documentation about the what is the best configuration 
of the 'Thermal_zone' files ?


Last I give you some information about my system:
   Laptop Toshiba Portege R100 (Pentium® M Processor 900MHz Ultra Low 
Voltage 733) , kernel 2.6.15.1 and MW Enlightenment (one desktop with 
size: 3 x 7 screen size).


  Thank you very very much,
  Gustavo Halperin


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Re: system heavy load

2006-07-11 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
pol wrote:
> Sometimes my laptop appear to be heavily loaded, ('top' reports an average
> around 25; moreover i can hear the fan running, sendmail is 'rejecting
> connections') although the cpu activity is well below 100 % (according
> to 'top') and no swapping on disk is occurring (as i can infer from the
> hard disk monitoring led).
> So what can i do to inderstand iwhat s happening?
> Is 'top' a reliable application? 
> 

Top is quite reliable.  The load average represents how many processes
are ready to run.  If everything is trying to access the disk, your CPU
utilization will be low (at least less than 100%) and yet you will have
a high load average since many processes will be stuck waiting for the disk.

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Re: Testing and honesty

2006-07-11 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Dave Ewart wrote:
> 
> OK, that's a reason to avoid PHP, *not* specificially a reason to avoid
> Squirrelmail.  Just because PHP may lead to insecure apps does not mean
> that any particular PHP application is badly written, from a security
> point of view.
> 

I agree. Based on the idea that squirrelmail should be avoided because
it is implemented in PHP, Linux should be avoided since it is implemnted
in C, the most insecure language of all.  Any recommendations on an
alternate kernel and alternate C library (preferrably no implented in C)?

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Re: python2.4 gtk2 broken

2006-07-11 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Kai Schroeder wrote:

Hi,

i've recenctly installed debian sid and i can't run any python2.4 apps
that use gtk. if i run democracyplayer e.g. i get:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/democracyplayer", line 8, in ?
import pygtk
ImportError: No module named pygtk

/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ contains (only):

Numeric  ORBit.so  _xmlplus apt_pkg.so  cairo.pth   debconf.pyc
deskbar  gtk-2.0 Numeric.pth  READMEapt_inst.so  cairo
debconf.py  democracygtk-1.2  python-support.pth

in python2.3 everything is fine. any ideas how to fix that?



Is this also part of the python reorganization?


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Re: /etc/hosts.deny how to use it?

2006-07-11 Thread Jude DaShiell
Why not uncomment line 19 in /etc/hosts.deny?  Then use /etc/hosts.allow 
specifically to allow certain ips.  The /etc/hosts.allow is checked first 
and anything not found in it that's covered by /etc/hosts.deny is supposed 
to be blocked.  Even so, I'd be looking at the system with last and lastb 
regularly; verify then trust.





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Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

2006-07-11 Thread Jude DaShiell
Another factor needing consideration is the quality of the manuals and 
associated documentation themselves.  If an adverse review has no problem 
proving documentation short-comings that ranks higher over here.  That 
having been said, systems like dapper drake based on intended audience do 
not aim at say the same crowd that uses only debian console mode and likes 
it.  The big reasons for X-windows on any computer system are in order of 
importance 1) to limit total control of a system to a subset of 
applications for security reasons in large organizations and 2) to enable 
people who couldn't handle something say like console-based linux well to 
still use that computer; the operating system for the rest of us approach.




On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Juergen Erhard wrote:


On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 03:27:38AM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 03:04, Brent Clark wrote:

Sorry, couldnt resist

http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1026


After reading this sentence in the above article

"Once again I should have probably read the manual, but I figured I've done
this before."

I think there is no need to give any importance to his review. IMHO, If
someone does not take time to read a manual then it is not even worth
considering his opinions/rant on a new release.


I disagree.  It all depends on the target audience.  If you target those of
little technical inclination, then an upgrade path that requires reading
upgrade notes for *important* things, is not really a good idea.

And generally, here's hoping DD's don't treat bug reports the same way
(sadly, some do).

Bye, J


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Howto fix grub after converting to reiserfs

2006-07-11 Thread marc
Hi,

I have a little problem :-o

Machine has Windows on sda2 vfat, which is the MBR. (sda1 is not used), 
Linux on sda3, sda4 contains sda5 swap, sda6 ext Linux, sda7 is vfat 
shared space.

Here's the story, so far

- moved Linux (on sda3) to a safe place while booted on another 
partition (sda6)
- formatted sda3 as reiserfs
- amended both fstabs (sda3 and sda6)
- mounted the newly formatted sda3 partition
- moved the data back onto sda3
- rebooted.

Grub currently loads from /boot on sda3, or rather it doesn't now. I'm 
getting an error 17 : Cannot mount selected partition. I'm not overly 
surprised, but I'm not sure what to do next.

I can mount the partition from a live CD without a problem, and I 
obviously mounted it from my sda6 partition.

Suggestions welcomed.

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Re: Another thread about a non-killable process

2006-07-11 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 12:58, Michael Marsh wrote:
> On 7/11/06, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 11 July 2006 12:18, Michael Marsh wrote:
> > > Does it respond to kill -HUP?
> >
> > Nope, or to 3, 6, or 11.  So, yeah, I'm down to trying random things. :)
>
> Can you attach to it with gdb ("gdb proftpd 889")?  It might start
> responding to kill at that point, or to "signal 9" in gdb.

Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll give that a try if I get a change.

j

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Re: Mapping between *.wav files and cdrecord -audio tracks?

2006-07-11 Thread Katipo

Adam Funk wrote:


I made digital copies of an old record by connecting my hi-fi line
output to my sound input and using Audacity to record the tracks (and
edit them slightly) and save them as "RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE
audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44100 Hz" files,


Have you tried gramofile?

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gramofile&searchon=names&subword=1&version=unstable&release=all


which I then
burnt to a CD with `cdrecord -audio ...`.

How good is the inverse function (ripping the CD tracks back to WAV)?

Is there any loss of information in burning the files to CD?

Is there any reason to keep the WAV files themselves backed up?

Thanks,
Adam


 




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Re: Another thread about a non-killable process

2006-07-11 Thread Michael Marsh

On 7/11/06, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tuesday 11 July 2006 12:18, Michael Marsh wrote:
> Does it respond to kill -HUP?
Nope, or to 3, 6, or 11.  So, yeah, I'm down to trying random things. :)


Can you attach to it with gdb ("gdb proftpd 889")?  It might start
responding to kill at that point, or to "signal 9" in gdb.

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Re: Another thread about a non-killable process

2006-07-11 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 12:26:57PM -0800, Joshua J. Kugler wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 July 2006 12:18, Michael Marsh wrote:
> > On 7/11/06, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Win32?  Huh?  This is a Debian system.  Proftpd is locked (won't accept
> > > connections, even though it shows listening on *:ftp.
> >
> > Does it respond to kill -HUP?
> 
> Nope, or to 3, 6, or 11.  So, yeah, I'm down to trying random things. :)

'kill -9' is the biggest gun you've got - if that doesn't work, then
nothing will.

If it won't die, then it is stuck in a kernel mode loop, which usually
means a bug in a driver somewhere. I can't think of legitimate reason
for a process to get into that state...

Regards,
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Re: xfce panel missing on startup

2006-07-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 09:51:27PM +0200, Chris wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> i have xfce4 installed as below.  With some users on my system it works as 
> expected, with another user
> it seems to start, but there are no panels and no mouse buttons result in any 
> menus.  I am using kdm.
> 
> I tried removeing .config and .cache but something still seems to be wrong.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions what the problem might be?

maybe there is something in ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession that is
conflicting? hmmm... does kdm even look at these though?

A


> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris
> 
> ii  gtk2-engines-xfce2.3.90.1-1  A GTK+-2.0 
> theme engine for Xfce
> ii  libxfce4mcs-client3  4.3.90.1-1  Client 
> library for Xfce4 configure interface
> ii  libxfce4mcs-manager3 4.3.90.1-1  Manager 
> library for Xfce4 configure interface
> ii  libxfce4util24.3.90.1-1  Utility 
> functions library for Xfce4
> ii  libxfcegui4-44.3.90.1-1  Basic GUI C 
> functions for Xfce4
> ii  xfce44.3.90.1-2  meta-package 
> for xfce4 dependencies
> ii  xfce4-artwork0.1-1   additional 
> artwork for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
> ii  xfce4-battery-plugin 0.4.0-1 battery 
> monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-clipman-plugin 0.6-1   clipboard 
> history plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-diskperf-plugin2.0-1   disk 
> performance display plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-fsguard-plugin 0.3.0-1 filesystem 
> monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-goodies4.3.90.1enhancements 
> for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
> ii  xfce4-icon-theme 4.3.90.1-1  Xfce 
> Standard icon theme
> ii  xfce4-mcs-manager4.3.90.1-3  Settings 
> manager for Xfce4
> ii  xfce4-mcs-plugins4.3.90.1-1  Special 
> modules for the xfce4-mcs-manager
> ii  xfce4-minicmd-plugin 0.4-1   Mini-command 
> line plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-mixer  4.3.90.1-2  Xfce4 Mixer 
> frontend
> ii  xfce4-mixer-alsa 4.3.90.1-2  Xfce4 Mixer 
> ALSA backend
> ii  xfce4-netload-plugin 0.4-1   network load 
> monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-panel  4.3.90.1-3  The Xfce4 
> desktop environment panel
> ii  xfce4-radio-plugin   0.2.0-1 v4l radio 
> control plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-sensors-plugin 0.9.0-1 hardware 
> sensors plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-session4.3.90.1-1  Xfce4 
> Session Manager
> ii  xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin   0.4.1-1 search the 
> web via the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-systemload-plugin  0.4-1   system load 
> monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-terminal   0.2.5.1beta1-1  Xfce 
> terminal emulator
> ii  xfce4-utils  4.3.90.1-1  Various 
> tools for Xfce
> ii  xfce4-verve-plugin   0.3.0-1 Verve 
> (command line) plugin for Xfce 4.4 panel
> ii  xfce4-wavelan-plugin 0.5.0-1 wavelan 
> status plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-weather-plugin 0.5-1   weather 
> information plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  gtk2-engines-xfce2.3.90.1-1  A GTK+-2.0 
> theme engine for Xfce
> ii  libxfce4mcs-client3  4.3.90.1-1  Client 
> library for Xfce4 configure interface
> ii  libxfce4mcs-manager3 4.3.90.1-1  Manager 
> library for Xfce4 configure interface
> ii  libxfce4util24.3.90.1-1  Utility 
> functions library for Xfce4
> ii  libxfcegui4-44.3.90.1-1  Basic GUI C 
> functions for Xfce4
> ii  xfce44.3.90.1-2  meta-package 
> for xfce4 dependencies
> ii  xfce4-artwork0.1-1   additional 
> artwork for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
> ii  xfce4-battery-plugin 0.4.0-1 battery 
> monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-clipman-plugin 0.6-1   clipboard 
> history plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-diskperf-plugin2.0-1   disk 
> performance display plugin for the Xfce4 panel
> ii  xfce4-fsguard-plugin 0

Editing run level S (was encrypted filesystem that can be mounted remotely?)

2006-07-11 Thread Digby Tarvin
Leading on from the earlier posters question about configuring an
encrypted filesystem that does not interrupt the boot process with
a password prompt...

Can anyone tell me what the 'Debian way' is to remove something
(in this case 'cryptdisks') from runlevel 'S'?

The relevent links are:
  /etc/rc0.d/K48cryptdisks
  /etc/rc6.d/K48cryptdisks
  /etc/rcS.d/S28cryptdisks

Ultimately I just need to achieve the equivalent of
rm /etc/rc[06S].d/*cryptdisks
but in a way that won't fall faul of the APT system..

I am sure I have seen 'update-rc.d' suggested in the past,
but the manpage warns:
   Please note that this program was designed for  use  in  package main?
   tainer  scripts and, accordingly, has only the very limited functional?
   ity required by such scripts.  System administrators are not encouraged
   to  use  update-rc.d  to  manage runlevels.  They should edit the links
   directly or use runlevel editors such as sysv-rc-conf and bum  instead.

indicating that it isn't the approved way to do it..

I tried the graphical runlevel editor 'bum', but it
gives a message stating:
Editing in run level S is not allowed!
Playing with rcS.d symlinks is an administration activity
requiring deep knowledge of the runlevel system.
(it also bus-errors when I try to run it on a remote Xterm, but
 that is another story...)

Finally, I tried using 'sysv-rc-conf', and it seems that it did allow
me to deactivate cryptdisks - although not by just removing the links,
but instead changed the 
/etc/rcS.d/S28cryptdisks
symlink to
/etc/rcS.d/K48cryptdisks

which I suppose has the desired effect, although I am not clear on
the logic behind doing it this way...

Does anyone know what is 'best practice', and what the logic is
behind the way things are being done?

Regards,
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Re: Another thread about a non-killable process

2006-07-11 Thread heba

2006/7/11, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Win32?  Huh?  This is a Debian system.  Proftpd is locked (won't accept
connections, even though it shows listening on *:ftp.



yes...^^...also this is a debian system is not exempt by trojan and virus...^_^





This is what top shows:

  899 ftp   39  19  4164 2216 3460 R 98.4  0.2  27190:02 proftpd

Output of lsof|grep proftpd

proftpd 899  ftp  cwd   DIR9,1 4096  2 /
proftpd 899  ftp  rtd   DIR9,1 4096  2 /
proftpd 899  ftp  txt   REG9,1   568812
501112 /usr/sbin/proftpd
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,190248
646521 /lib/ld-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,118876
646565 /lib/tls/libcrypt-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,111024
646488 /lib/libcap.so.1.10
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,128880
646421 /lib/libwrap.so.0.7.6
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,173304
646569 /lib/tls/libnsl-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,1   198576
486306 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.7
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,1  1029672
486305 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.7
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,130360
646516 /lib/libpam.so.0.76
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,1  1254468
646564 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,1 9872
646566 /lib/tls/libdl-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,134748
646572 /lib/tls/libnss_files-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,128616
646570 /lib/tls/libnss_compat-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,133440
646574 /lib/tls/libnss_nis-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,113976
646571 /lib/tls/libnss_dns-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,164924
646578 /lib/tls/libresolv-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp0u IPv4   2776 TCP *:ftp
(LISTEN)
proftpd 899  ftp1uW REG9,2 1056
670463 /var/run/proftpd/proftpd.scoreboard
proftpd 899  ftp4r  REG9,1 1248
586047 /etc/group

So, if it's a back door, it's really good at opening all the right files to
look the the real thing.

j



I think, that, the demon of proftpd make a problem, like a loop or a
overflow...:S

other command to kill the process other that suggest by Michael Marsh

killall -9 899

good night and good luck. I close.

heba


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Re: Another thread about a non-killable process

2006-07-11 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 12:18, Michael Marsh wrote:
> On 7/11/06, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Win32?  Huh?  This is a Debian system.  Proftpd is locked (won't accept
> > connections, even though it shows listening on *:ftp.
>
> Does it respond to kill -HUP?

Nope, or to 3, 6, or 11.  So, yeah, I'm down to trying random things. :)

j

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Re: How to diagnose kernel panic?

2006-07-11 Thread Mark Copper
Thank you for your suggestions how to chase down this intermittant panic.

This did occur from beginning with this machine (Supermicro P4SCi MB,
Ablecom 420w power, Seagate Barracuda SATA HD's, Crucial RAM, Debian
testing with 2.6.15 kernel, software RAID1).

All HD tests from manufacturer passed (thanks for idea).  Search for
others reporting same panic message was interesting but seemingly no
exact matches--seems to indicate the problem is in the hardware
somewhere.  Data center guy suspects static zap during assembly.

Can't imagine what conditions from being on-line at data center I am
unable to replicate...  Guess I'll just wait, run [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
occasionally bombard with http requests.  It's gotta happen again
sometime, especially if it's the power supply.

Any further test suggestions would be welcome.

Mark


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Re: Another thread about a non-killable process

2006-07-11 Thread Michael Marsh

On 7/11/06, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Win32?  Huh?  This is a Debian system.  Proftpd is locked (won't accept
connections, even though it shows listening on *:ftp.


Does it respond to kill -HUP?

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Re: Another thread about a non-killable process

2006-07-11 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:56, heba wrote:
> 2006/7/11, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > OK, so I understand you can't kill a process in a 'D' state.  That makes
> > sense.
> >
> > But, why can't you kill a process in state 'R'?
> >
> > This is what ps aux shows:
> >
> > ftp899 64.9  0.2  4164 2216 ?RNs  Jun12 27137:59 proftpd:
> > (accepting connections)
> >
> > BTW, top shows that process taking 100% CPU.
> >
> > Hmm...proftpd, oddly enough (as was the subject of the other recent
> > thread). Plain kill won't work.  Kill -9 will not kill it.  Right now, I
> > have it set at the lowest possible priority, until I get a chance to
> > reboot the machine, but is there anyway to kill an 'R' process when kill
> > -9 won't work?
> >
> > j
>
> seems a w32 or perhaps a backdoor seen the process run to ftp.

Win32?  Huh?  This is a Debian system.  Proftpd is locked (won't accept 
connections, even though it shows listening on *:ftp.

This is what top shows:

  899 ftp   39  19  4164 2216 3460 R 98.4  0.2  27190:02 proftpd

Output of lsof|grep proftpd

proftpd 899  ftp  cwd   DIR9,1 4096  2 /
proftpd 899  ftp  rtd   DIR9,1 4096  2 /
proftpd 899  ftp  txt   REG9,1   568812 
501112 /usr/sbin/proftpd
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,190248 
646521 /lib/ld-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,118876 
646565 /lib/tls/libcrypt-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,111024 
646488 /lib/libcap.so.1.10
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,128880 
646421 /lib/libwrap.so.0.7.6
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,173304 
646569 /lib/tls/libnsl-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,1   198576 
486306 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.7
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,1  1029672 
486305 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.7
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,130360 
646516 /lib/libpam.so.0.76
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,1  1254468 
646564 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,1 9872 
646566 /lib/tls/libdl-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,134748 
646572 /lib/tls/libnss_files-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,128616 
646570 /lib/tls/libnss_compat-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,133440 
646574 /lib/tls/libnss_nis-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,113976 
646571 /lib/tls/libnss_dns-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp  mem   REG9,164924 
646578 /lib/tls/libresolv-2.3.2.so
proftpd 899  ftp0u IPv4   2776 TCP *:ftp 
(LISTEN)
proftpd 899  ftp1uW REG9,2 1056 
670463 /var/run/proftpd/proftpd.scoreboard
proftpd 899  ftp4r  REG9,1 1248 
586047 /etc/group

So, if it's a back door, it's really good at opening all the right files to 
look the the real thing.

j

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Re: Another thread about a non-killable process

2006-07-11 Thread heba

2006/7/11, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

OK, so I understand you can't kill a process in a 'D' state.  That makes
sense.

But, why can't you kill a process in state 'R'?

This is what ps aux shows:

ftp899 64.9  0.2  4164 2216 ?RNs  Jun12 27137:59 proftpd:
(accepting connections)

BTW, top shows that process taking 100% CPU.

Hmm...proftpd, oddly enough (as was the subject of the other recent thread).
Plain kill won't work.  Kill -9 will not kill it.  Right now, I have it set
at the lowest possible priority, until I get a chance to reboot the machine,
but is there anyway to kill an 'R' process when kill -9 won't work?

j



seems a w32 or perhaps a backdoor seen the process run to ftp.

If you post us the process that top displaying you, please?

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Re: No sound on flash movies

2006-07-11 Thread Wulfy

Jochen Schulz wrote:

Iván Alemán:
  

While a flash movie loads very well on firefox, I can't get any sound,



I solved this problem a few days ago by editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc.
Since I am not using a sound daemon (I don't use Gnome or KDE), I put
"aoss" in there.
I have the same problem. I use KDE.  What should I put in there?  I 
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xfce panel missing on startup

2006-07-11 Thread Chris
Hello,

i have xfce4 installed as below.  With some users on my system it works as 
expected, with another user
it seems to start, but there are no panels and no mouse buttons result in any 
menus.  I am using kdm.

I tried removeing .config and .cache but something still seems to be wrong.

Does anyone have any suggestions what the problem might be?

Thanks,

Chris

ii  gtk2-engines-xfce2.3.90.1-1  A GTK+-2.0 
theme engine for Xfce
ii  libxfce4mcs-client3  4.3.90.1-1  Client library 
for Xfce4 configure interface
ii  libxfce4mcs-manager3 4.3.90.1-1  Manager 
library for Xfce4 configure interface
ii  libxfce4util24.3.90.1-1  Utility 
functions library for Xfce4
ii  libxfcegui4-44.3.90.1-1  Basic GUI C 
functions for Xfce4
ii  xfce44.3.90.1-2  meta-package 
for xfce4 dependencies
ii  xfce4-artwork0.1-1   additional 
artwork for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
ii  xfce4-battery-plugin 0.4.0-1 battery 
monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-clipman-plugin 0.6-1   clipboard 
history plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-diskperf-plugin2.0-1   disk 
performance display plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-fsguard-plugin 0.3.0-1 filesystem 
monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-goodies4.3.90.1enhancements 
for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
ii  xfce4-icon-theme 4.3.90.1-1  Xfce Standard 
icon theme
ii  xfce4-mcs-manager4.3.90.1-3  Settings 
manager for Xfce4
ii  xfce4-mcs-plugins4.3.90.1-1  Special 
modules for the xfce4-mcs-manager
ii  xfce4-minicmd-plugin 0.4-1   Mini-command 
line plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-mixer  4.3.90.1-2  Xfce4 Mixer 
frontend
ii  xfce4-mixer-alsa 4.3.90.1-2  Xfce4 Mixer 
ALSA backend
ii  xfce4-netload-plugin 0.4-1   network load 
monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-panel  4.3.90.1-3  The Xfce4 
desktop environment panel
ii  xfce4-radio-plugin   0.2.0-1 v4l radio 
control plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-sensors-plugin 0.9.0-1 hardware 
sensors plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-session4.3.90.1-1  Xfce4 Session 
Manager
ii  xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin   0.4.1-1 search the web 
via the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-systemload-plugin  0.4-1   system load 
monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-terminal   0.2.5.1beta1-1  Xfce terminal 
emulator
ii  xfce4-utils  4.3.90.1-1  Various tools 
for Xfce
ii  xfce4-verve-plugin   0.3.0-1 Verve (command 
line) plugin for Xfce 4.4 panel
ii  xfce4-wavelan-plugin 0.5.0-1 wavelan status 
plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-weather-plugin 0.5-1   weather 
information plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  gtk2-engines-xfce2.3.90.1-1  A GTK+-2.0 
theme engine for Xfce
ii  libxfce4mcs-client3  4.3.90.1-1  Client library 
for Xfce4 configure interface
ii  libxfce4mcs-manager3 4.3.90.1-1  Manager 
library for Xfce4 configure interface
ii  libxfce4util24.3.90.1-1  Utility 
functions library for Xfce4
ii  libxfcegui4-44.3.90.1-1  Basic GUI C 
functions for Xfce4
ii  xfce44.3.90.1-2  meta-package 
for xfce4 dependencies
ii  xfce4-artwork0.1-1   additional 
artwork for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
ii  xfce4-battery-plugin 0.4.0-1 battery 
monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-clipman-plugin 0.6-1   clipboard 
history plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-diskperf-plugin2.0-1   disk 
performance display plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-fsguard-plugin 0.3.0-1 filesystem 
monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-goodies4.3.90.1enhancements 
for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
ii  xfce4-icon-theme 4.3.90.1-1  Xfce Standard 
icon theme
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manager for Xfce4
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Re: Force kill a process?

2006-07-11 Thread heba

2006/7/11, Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:




Think of the 'D' state as saying "The operating system will be damaged
if the process is allowed to exit now".

DigbyT



thanks, I'm understanding...^__^

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Another thread about a non-killable process

2006-07-11 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
OK, so I understand you can't kill a process in a 'D' state.  That makes 
sense.

But, why can't you kill a process in state 'R'?

This is what ps aux shows:

ftp899 64.9  0.2  4164 2216 ?RNs  Jun12 27137:59 proftpd: 
(accepting connections)

BTW, top shows that process taking 100% CPU.

Hmm...proftpd, oddly enough (as was the subject of the other recent thread).  
Plain kill won't work.  Kill -9 will not kill it.  Right now, I have it set 
at the lowest possible priority, until I get a chance to reboot the machine, 
but is there anyway to kill an 'R' process when kill -9 won't work?

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Re: ~/.xsession crashes xserver

2006-07-11 Thread Jochen Schulz
Haines Brown:
> 
> I find it difficult to interpret ~/user/.xsession-errors, but it does
> contain the line: "g_object_ref: assertion 'object->refcount > 0'
> failed". I needed the .xsession file to hold the lines:
> 
>   xset s off 
>   xset -dpms

I had difficulties with xset a few weeks ago, too, and have since
abandoned it. I didn't bother to hunt down the reason or write a bug
report which you might want to do.

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Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-11 Thread Ian Brandt
Sorry, meant for this to go to the list (why no Reply-To?)...


Thomas Dickey wrote:

First off thank you for such a helpful response!

>> "pretty garbled" could be more than one thing...

Here are some screen shots:



>> Backing up a little, I'd edit that line to show
>>
>> macosx|generic color xterm,
>>
>> and remove the $HOME/.terminfo/x/xterm-color and
>> $HOME/.terminfo/n/nxterm,
>> rerun tic.  Then
>>
>>  infocmp macosx xterm-color
>>
>> would show whatever changes were made other than the sgr string.

Here is the result:

$ infocmp macosx xterm-color
comparing macosx to xterm-color.
comparing booleans.
comparing numbers.
comparing strings.
hts: '\EH', NULL.
is2: '\E7\E[r\E[m\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E8\E>',
'\E[m\E[?7h\E[4l\E>\E7\E[r\E[?1;3;4;6l\E8'.
kdch1: '\E[3~', '\177'.
kend: NULL, '\E[4~'.
kfnd: '\E[1~', NULL.
khome: NULL, '\E[1~'.
kslt: '\E[4~', NULL.
meml: NULL, '\El'.
memu: NULL, '\Em'.
rs2: '\E7\E[r\E8\E[m\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E>',
'\E[m\E[?7h\E[4l\E>\E7\E[r\E[?1;3;4;6l\E8'.

>> xterm-color is almost certainly technically incorrect because it's
>> unlikely that Terminal was designed to match that set of data.

I agree.

>> Running on Debian, you should be able to use tack (part of ncurses)
>> to step through the features.  I'd expect some differences on the
>> color model for instance.  Seeing the test fail for either flavor
>> of "xterm-color" should help a little.

I'll try to learn my way around tack's tests and follow up with a
meaningful log.

>> Since xterm-color was not designed to match Terminal, any
>> differences here aren't going to be applied to ncurses.  (In
>> articular, I recall some complaints that the backspace/delete
>> settings don't match Debian).  But it would be useful to have an
>> accurate terminal description for Terminal.
>>
>> Supposedly we already have this - the nsterm entries that have
>> been in ncurses since 2001.  There were some minor fixes to those
>> early this year - see
>>
>>  ftp://invisible-island.net/ncurses/terminfo.src.gz

I compiled your terminfo on my Debian box, and ssh'd over with TERM
set to 'nsterm'.  A few initial observations:

  - Color is lost at the Bash prompt.
  - Horizontal borders in Aptitude (e.g. in the search or quit
dialogs) become '?' characters.
  - Delete works at the bash prompt, but in Aptitude it prints '^[[3~'.
  - Backspace works in Aptitude, whereas with xterm-color it printed '^?'.

Thanks Again,

Ian



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Re: Force kill a process?

2006-07-11 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 08:19:42PM +0200, heba wrote:
> 2006/7/11, helices <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >man ps
> >
> >Read this section:
> >
> >PROCESS STATE CODES
> >
> 
> 
> thanks very much. But I've a question. Is it possible change the D
> state in other state that it is possible to kill the process?
> 
> thanks again

The kernel trumps any user process, including root, so no - if 
the kernel code doesn't want to exit, you can't force it (except
of course by shutting down - because then it doesn't matter if
the termination damages the system).

The 'D' state is just a an indicator telling you that the process is
suspended at some point in the kernel code where the author has
decided it would not be safe to return prematurely. It is not
the 'D' state that is stopping you from killing it - it just tells
you that the kernel won't let you..

In general the 'D' state tells you that the process is suspended
waiting on some I/O operation to complete, and the code doesn't
allow for any way to exit earlier. 

As an example, if you issue a write request to a serial port when
XOFF has been asserted, the system won't let the task exit
until the write is finished. If this is just normal flow control,
that won't take too long, but if it is being used as a screen pause
by someone who has gone home, it could imply an arbitrarily long
delay...

Think of the 'D' state as saying "The operating system will be damaged
if the process is allowed to exit now".

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Can't mount cdrom after cdrecord installation (was: dvd burning)

2006-07-11 Thread Rodolfo Medina
I've just installed cdrecord in my Debian Sarge r2,
and then changed in menu.lst the line:

kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-686 root=/dev/hda6 ro 

into:

 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-686 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdb=ide-scsi ro 
hdc=ide-scsi ro hdd=ide-scsi 

, but then when I try to mount a cdrom, as usual, with `mount /cdrom',
I get the following:

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
   missing codepage or other error
   (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
   ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail  or so

. I'm quite lost here, could anyone suggest what to do?

Thanks,
Rodolfo


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Re: Why?

2006-07-11 Thread John Hasler
Nate Bargmann writes:
> The Debian Project, itself a part of the GNU project, or at least tightly
> affiliated with it...

Debian was briefly affiliated with the FSF at the beginning but the
association was dissolved before 1.1 came out.

> A few years later, TrollTech changed the license on Qt to the "more free"
> GPL thus leapfrogging the "lesser" LGPL.  Despite this...

Despite what?  Both are completely DFSG compliant.  There is no question of
one being "more free" than the other.

> ...old attitudes have been slow to change and Debian, for whatever
> reason(s), still prefers GNOME over KDE at installation.

The reason is that there is no reason to change.  One or the other has to
be the default: should we toss a coin?
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Re: Problem Stopping mplayer

2006-07-11 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 10:00 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> I start mplayer from mozilla and listen to a radio station not available 
> locally - works perfectly.
> 
> There is a hitch though.  If mozilla is stopped there is no longer a 
> window for mplayer.  I stop it from a console by getting its pid and 
> killing it.  This works but shouldn't there be a better way?
> 

Stop using - mozplugger

It hasn't really been needed for a bit now.
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Re: quotaon fails - "Quota format not supported in kernel"

2006-07-11 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 07:56 -0400, Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
> I'm attempting to enable quotas on a Sarge system running a custom
> 2.6.17.3 kernel.
> 
> # grep -i quota /boot/config-`uname -r`
> CONFIG_QUOTA=y
> CONFIG_QUOTACTL=y
> 
> # quotaon -uv / 
> quotaon: using //aquota.user on /dev/hda3 [/]: No such process
> quotaon: Quota format not supported in kernel.
> 
> I've posted an strace of the quotaon command here:
> 
> http://adam.rosi-kessel.org/temp13/quotaon_strace
> 
> Running the quota init.d script fails similarly.
> 
> I'm not using any NFS mounts or exports.
> 
> Any ideas why this is failing?

What does you /etc/fstab entry for your file-system look like?

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Re: Force kill a process?

2006-07-11 Thread heba

2006/7/11, helices <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


man ps

Read this section:

PROCESS STATE CODES




thanks very much. But I've a question. Is it possible change the D
state in other state that it is possible to kill the process?

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Re: encrypted filesystem that can be mounted remotely?

2006-07-11 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 05:00:56PM -, Anonymous wrote:
> I'd like to keep some of the data on my computer's hard drive
> encrypted, but not necessarily all of it. But I also need to be able
> to reboot the computer remotely and log into by SSH without the
> encrypted FS mounted, then mount the encrypted partition in the SSH
> session (from a trusted machine, of course) presumably by giving a
> sort of mount command and entering the passphrase.
> 
> I've never used an encrypted FS before. Is what I want possible? What
> encrypted FS supports this?
> 

apt-get install crytsetup
man 8 cryptsetup...

The only customization you will need is to remove the link to
/etc/init.d/cryptdisks from your start runlevel so that the system
doesn't stop and request a password during the boot process...

When your system has finished booting, log in and run
/etc/init.d/cryptdisks
enter the password, and finally mount the encrypted filesystem.

In my opinion it would be better if cryptdisks actually did the
mounting (as I believe /etc/init.d/boot.crypto does on SuSE).

It seems in Debian there is an assumption that someone will be
on hand to enter a password at boot time, so that the normal
fstab 'mount -a' can be used to mount it.

For me it makes sense to delay the mount, not just to avoid preventing
a successful unatended reboot, but because if data is sensitive enough
to store on an encrypted filesystem, it should only be mounted when
needed...

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~/.xsession crashes xserver

2006-07-11 Thread Haines Brown
I placed into ~/user a file .xsession that even without any content
causes the xserver to crash for user (root has no problem running
xserver).  

I find it difficult to interpret ~/user/.xsession-errors, but it does
contain the line: "g_object_ref: assertion 'object->refcount > 0'
failed". I needed the .xsession file to hold the lines:

xset s off 
xset -dpms

On my current machine, I have no problems with an .xsession file being
present, although I'm not using any desktop manager (just IceWM). 

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Re: Force kill a process?

2006-07-11 Thread helices
* heba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006:07:11:19:55:24+0200] scribed:
> 2006/7/11, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >You cannot kill processes that are in the D state.  They are in
> >uninterruptable sleep in the kernel.
> >--
> >John Hasler
> 
> excuse me for my ignorance, but what is the D state, please?

man ps

Read this section:

PROCESS STATE CODES

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Re: Force kill a process?

2006-07-11 Thread heba

2006/7/11, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

You cannot kill processes that are in the D state.  They are in
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excuse me for my ignorance, but what is the D state, please?

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Re: encrypted filesystem that can be mounted remotely?

2006-07-11 Thread Michael Dominok
On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 17:00 +, Anonymous wrote:
> I'd like to keep some of the data on my computer's hard drive
> encrypted, but not necessarily all of it. But I also need to be able
> to reboot the computer remotely and log into by SSH without the
> encrypted FS mounted, then mount the encrypted partition in the SSH
> session (from a trusted machine, of course) presumably by giving a
> sort of mount command and entering the passphrase.
> 
> I've never used an encrypted FS before. Is what I want possible? What
> encrypted FS supports this?

I would suppose all of them?
Add an encrypted Partition, with data or whatever on it, to a running
system can be done easily. 
If you can mount a filesystem locally you can also mount it from within
a ssh-session. 

Another problem is if you put "things" essential for booting up the
system into the encrypted partition. Then you'll have to invest some
extra work... 

Cheers

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Re: No sound on flash movies

2006-07-11 Thread Iván Alemán

Yup, it works right now, the link I posted supposed to send you to the
same solution you're proposing.

So what you just suggested works, firefox only needed to be restarted.

Thanks a lot.

On 7/11/06, Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Iván Alemán:
>
> While a flash movie loads very well on firefox, I can't get any sound,

I solved this problem a few days ago by editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc.
Since I am not using a sound daemon (I don't use Gnome or KDE), I put
"aoss" in there.

> I have tried the following solution with no luck
> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu...ree/+bug/29760

This URL in invalid.

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Re: Weird cups problems

2006-07-11 Thread David A. Parker

Thanks for your reply, George.


Whenever I start cups, it puts several random network printers located
in other people's offices into my /etc/printcap file and they show up
when I go to localhost:631.


There is an option in the config file to stop this happening (can't
remember which one.)



Reading through the documentation, the "Browsing" option seemed to apply 
to this, so I turned it off but it had no effect.



I do not actually have access to these
printers, I can't delete them from within the web interface.  When I try
to delete them, the "Delete Printer" button is a link to IP address of
the printer, not to localhost.  For example, my IP address 10.3.1.40,
and one of these printers show up as "i9900" and the device URI is
"ipp://ip-3-1-216.utica.edu:631/printers/i9900".  The "Delete Printer"
button is a link to
"http://ip-3-1-216.utica.edu:631/admin/?op=delete-printer&printer_name=i9900";
and I get a "Forbidden" error when it tried to connect to 10.3.1.216.


Your issue is probably similar to this:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=323796

If so, you can get around it by entering URL by hand and



I tried manually altering the URL to go to localhost and it seemed to 
work, but the printer was still in the list when I went back to the 
"Printers" screen.



Does anyone have any ideas about this?  Is cups just plain broken right
now, or can this be corrected?


Dude, if this is your biggest problem with cups right now then you are
lucky. Apparently it is really broken in Testing/Unstable for some
people at the moment.



Not my biggest problem, just my latest one.  :-)



Hope this helps,



Indeed it did.  Thanks!

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Re: encrypted filesystem that can be mounted remotely?

2006-07-11 Thread Alec Berryman
Anonymous on 2006-07-11 17:00:56 -:

> I'd like to keep some of the data on my computer's hard drive
> encrypted, but not necessarily all of it. But I also need to be able
> to reboot the computer remotely and log into by SSH without the
> encrypted FS mounted, then mount the encrypted partition in the SSH
> session (from a trusted machine, of course) presumably by giving a
> sort of mount command and entering the passphrase.
> 
> I've never used an encrypted FS before. Is what I want possible? What
> encrypted FS supports this?

I believe that at encfs, an encrypted file system that uses FUSE, and
libpam-encfs, a PAM module to load encfs at user login, would fit your
requirements.


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Re: Why?

2006-07-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
* S Clement <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Jul 10 22:12 -0500]:
> I am new to Debian - within the last two weeks - and two things puzzle me.
> 
> Why do you seem to prefer gnome over kde?  I have examined both and kde seems 
> to me to be easier to use.  There must be something I am missing.

Back in the mists of time, somewhere around 1998 or so, when the
TrollTech Qt library was not DFSG free, the GNOME project was created
built upon the GIMP Tool Kit, GTK.  GNOME is an official Project of
GNU. The Debian Project, itself a part of the GNU project, or at least
tightly affiliated with it, chose GNOME as the default DE.  Neither KDE
or Qt apps were included in the official Debian archive although
unofficial packages were made available by kind souls.  Flamewars
ruled the day between the two camps.

A few years later, TrollTech changed the license on Qt to the "more
free" GPL thus leapfrogging the "lesser" LGPL.  Despite this, old
attitudes have been slow to change and Debian, for whatever reason(s),
still prefers GNOME over KDE at installation.

Personally, I use either KDE or IceWM when they make sense and nothing
else.  I use a couple of GTK based apps regularly.

> Is it worth hunting for a way to change the default?

Yes.  It's your productivity and enjoyment at stake here.  By default
vi/Vim is forced on me at every turn.  I have successfully replaced
them with FTE.  My first experience with a moded editor was edlin, so
vi/Vim don't impress me.  Neither does emacs.

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encrypted filesystem that can be mounted remotely?

2006-07-11 Thread Anonymous
I'd like to keep some of the data on my computer's hard drive
encrypted, but not necessarily all of it. But I also need to be able
to reboot the computer remotely and log into by SSH without the
encrypted FS mounted, then mount the encrypted partition in the SSH
session (from a trusted machine, of course) presumably by giving a
sort of mount command and entering the passphrase.

I've never used an encrypted FS before. Is what I want possible? What
encrypted FS supports this?

Thanks.


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system heavy load

2006-07-11 Thread pol
Sometimes my laptop appear to be heavily loaded, ('top' reports an average
around 25; moreover i can hear the fan running, sendmail is 'rejecting
connections') although the cpu activity is well below 100 % (according
to 'top') and no swapping on disk is occurring (as i can infer from the
hard disk monitoring led).
So what can i do to inderstand iwhat s happening?
Is 'top' a reliable application? 

thank you 

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Re: Horrible performance: hdparm

2006-07-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> What does people feel to make hdparm with DMA enabled to be default for
> etch?

Leave the DMA default for the kernel (hint: it is already on for disks, and
unless we are compiling our kernels with the "DMA only for disks" option,
also for ATAPI devices when the IDE bridge is not crap).

What you *can* do that would be helpful (and really, this would be best
fixed in the kernel as well) is to set -u 1 by default, but don't change -d
(dma).

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Re: Weird cups problems

2006-07-11 Thread George Borisov
George Borisov wrote:
> 
> If so, you can get around it by entering URL by hand and

... and changing the hostname in the URL to "localhost".


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Re: Weird cups problems

2006-07-11 Thread George Borisov
David A. Parker wrote:
> 
> Whenever I start cups, it puts several random network printers located
> in other people's offices into my /etc/printcap file and they show up
> when I go to localhost:631.

There is an option in the config file to stop this happening (can't
remember which one.)

> I do not actually have access to these
> printers, I can't delete them from within the web interface.  When I try
> to delete them, the "Delete Printer" button is a link to IP address of
> the printer, not to localhost.  For example, my IP address 10.3.1.40,
> and one of these printers show up as "i9900" and the device URI is
> "ipp://ip-3-1-216.utica.edu:631/printers/i9900".  The "Delete Printer"
> button is a link to
> "http://ip-3-1-216.utica.edu:631/admin/?op=delete-printer&printer_name=i9900";
> and I get a "Forbidden" error when it tried to connect to 10.3.1.216.

Your issue is probably similar to this:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=323796

If so, you can get around it by entering URL by hand and

> Does anyone have any ideas about this?  Is cups just plain broken right
> now, or can this be corrected?

Dude, if this is your biggest problem with cups right now then you are
lucky. Apparently it is really broken in Testing/Unstable for some
people at the moment.


Hope this helps,

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Re: Horrible performance: hdparm

2006-07-11 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Osamu Aoki wrote:

> What does people feel to make hdparm with DMA enabled to be default for
> etch?

Is is not the kernel that needs to be tuned to enable/disable this by
default? It also seems more reliable than simply brute-forcing this on.


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Horrible performance: hdparm

2006-07-11 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 06:10:37PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Rich Johnson wrote:
> > Judging from the lackadaisical disk LED activity, I doubt it's the disk.
> 
> Disk issues can lead to apparently low disk activity in some situations,
> and it's the first thing I'd check: Make sure that DMA is on, make sure
> that hdparm is optimally tuned, etc.
> 
> -- 
> see shy jo

If installation guru has to tell this, is not it time to make this as
default?

We have written out 386 machines.  It may be a time to assume decent DMA
support (Of couse with some boot option to disable it just in case.)

What does people feel to make hdparm with DMA enabled to be default for
etch?

Osamu


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LDAP, Kerberos trouble

2006-07-11 Thread Ron Rademaker

Hello,

I'm setting up a central user directory with LDAP, password are in a 
kerberos database. It looks like everything works. However, it just 
doesn't work. If I remove LDAP and just get passwords from kerberos I 
can login just fine. Things go weird (in my opinion, no doubt I'm doing 
something wrong but useful error messages seem to be missing) as I blend 
in LDAP. Here's my nsswitch.conf:


# /etc/nsswitch.conf
#
# Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality.
# If you have the `glibc-doc' and `info' packages installed, try:
# `info libc "Name Service Switch"' for information about this file.

passwd: files ldap
group:  ldap files
shadow: files

hosts:  files dns
networks:   files

protocols:  db files
services:   db files
ethers: db files
rpc:db files

netgroup:   nis

With this, getent passwd  and id  give me exactly 
the information I'd expect and want. This tells me nss  is setup ok 
(right?).


Now to PAM (I expect the problem to be here), here are the contents of 
my files:


--- common-auth
#
# /etc/pam.d/common-auth - authentication settings common to all services
#
# This file is included from other service-specific PAM config files,
# and should contain a list of the authentication modules that define
# the central authentication scheme for use on the system
# (e.g., /etc/shadow, LDAP, Kerberos, etc.).  The default is to use the
# traditional Unix authentication mechanisms.
#
#
authsufficient  /lib/security/pam_krb5.so
authsufficient  /lib/security/pam_unix.so try_first_pass
#auth   optional/lib/security/pam_ldap.so


--- common-password
#
# /etc/pam.d/common-password - password-related modules common to all 
services

#
# This file is included from other service-specific PAM config files,
# and should contain a list of modules that define  the services to be
#used to change user passwords.  The default is pam_unix

# The "nullok" option allows users to change an empty password, else
# empty passwords are treated as locked accounts.
#
# (Add `md5' after the module name to enable MD5 passwords)
#
# The "obscure" option replaces the old `OBSCURE_CHECKS_ENAB' option in
# login.defs. Also the "min" and "max" options enforce the length of the
# new password.

passwordsufficient/lib/security/pam_krb5.so use_authtok
passwordsufficient/lib/security/pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 
max=8 md5


--- common-account
#
# /etc/pam.d/common-account - authorization settings common to all services
#
# This file is included from other service-specific PAM config files,
# and should contain a list of the authorization modules that define
# the central access policy for use on the system.  The default is to
# only deny service to users whose accounts are expired in /etc/shadow.
#
account required/lib/security/pam_access.so
account sufficient  /lib/security/pam_ldap.so
account sufficient  /lib/security/pam_unix.so

--- common-session
#
# /etc/pam.d/common-session - session-related modules common to all services
#
# This file is included from other service-specific PAM config files,
# and should contain a list of modules that define tasks to be performed
# at the start and end of sessions of *any* kind (both interactive and
# non-interactive).  The default is pam_unix.
#
session sufficient  /lib/security/pam_krb5.so
session sufficient  /lib/security/pam_ldap.so
session sufficient  /lib/security/pam_unix.so

And to conclude, the problem:

(from an open root account):

LDAP has my shell set to tcsh

#ssh -l ron localhost
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
Broken pipe
myhost:~>

Changed my shell to sh
ssh -l ron localhost
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
-sh: [: : integer expression expected
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ doanything
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 


But if I try to execute a command:

# ssh -l ron localhost touch testfile

testfile is created!

Any help would be very much appreciated!

Thanks,
Ron

PS. Could you please CC any replies?


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Re: apt-get and Proxy configuration

2006-07-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:09:59 -0400
"Hansel A. Ortiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi... people..
> 
> Now im having problems with a apt-get because it requires
> authorization be the ISA server, but the configuration i made to see
> if i can fix the problem was this..
> 
> i have an user in the isa server with all access to the internet...
> but i never configured debian with it... so now is asking my for that
> configuration... dont know why..
> 
> i declared in the /etc/apt/apt.conf file
> 
> Acquire::http::Proxy "http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port";
> Acquire::ftp::Proxy "ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port";
> 
> 
> but... it didn`t work
> 
> linux-debian:~# apt-get update
> Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages
>   407 Proxy Authentication Required ( The ISA Server requires
> authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy service
> is denied.  ) Err http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages
>   407 Proxy Authentication Required ( The ISA Server requires
> authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy service
> is denied.  ) Ign http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Release
> 
> 
> i tryed to configure the apt-setup and re-configure the http access
> but it didn`t work either..
> 
> 
> 

The ISA server requires that clients connecting to it understand the
NTLM protocol, something that apt-get does not. Fortunately, ntlmaps[1]
is here to help.

The configuration file /etc/ntlmaps/server.cfg is well documented. Once
you get ntlmaps up and running (), set your proxy variable to
http://localhost:5865.

[1] http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/ntlmaps

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Re: Wiki for Java Developers Using Debian

2006-07-11 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Redefined Horizons wrote:

> Other developers that are working with Debian are welcome to
> contribute to the wiki page. Hopefully it will mature into a helpful
> knowledge base for Java development on Debian.

Why not integrate it into official Debian wiki?


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Re: Wiki for Java Developers Using Debian

2006-07-11 Thread Alec Berryman
Redefined Horizons on 2006-07-11 08:22:28 -0700:

> I have created a little wiki to assist newbies to Debian with Java
> development on the operating system.

It would be great if that were integrated into the Debian wiki,
wiki.debian.org.


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Wiki for Java Developers Using Debian

2006-07-11 Thread Redefined Horizons

I have created a little wiki to assist newbies to Debian with Java
development on the operating system.

I'm still new to Linux myself, although I have been programming with
Java for a little while. I hope others will find the wiki useful and I
am open to suggestions for its improvement. There isn't much on the
wiki right now, but I will add more as I learn more about developing
Java on Debian.

You can find the site here:
http://tips4javadevelopmentondebian.pbwiki.com/


You can find my notes about using Eclipse, Subversion, and Subclipse
on Debian here:
http://tips4javadevelopmentondebian.pbwiki.com/Working%20With%20Eclipse%2C%20Subclipse%2C%20and%20Subversion

Other developers that are working with Debian are welcome to
contribute to the wiki page. Hopefully it will mature into a helpful
knowledge base for Java development on Debian.

Scott Huey


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Wacom Mouse Problem

2006-07-11 Thread Thomas H. George
If gdm is started with the mouse on the wacom tablet, the mouse wont 
work.  If gdm is started with the mouse off the tablet and the mouse is 
placed on the tablet after the sign in screen is displayed it will 
work.  This is with a debian testing box and a 2.6.15 kernel.


I discovered this about a month ago and posted messages on the 
debian-user list and on the Sourceforge wacom project site (at the time 
the linuxwacom.sf.net link did not work).
This is no problem to me since I know how to make the mouse work.  I 
mention it only in case others are still struggling with the issue.


Tom George

I posted this message to

linuxwacom-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net

this morning but it was returned with a message that a remote SMTP server had 
rejected the address.  I am putting it on the debian-user list in case anyone 
is interested.

Tom George


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apt-get and Proxy configuration

2006-07-11 Thread Hansel A. Ortiz
hi... people..Now im having problems with a apt-get because it requires authorization be the ISA server, but the configuration i made to see if i can fix the problem was this.. i have an user in the isa server with all access to the internet... but i never configured debian with it... so now is asking my for that configuration... dont know why..
i declared 
in the /etc/apt/apt.conf fileAcquire::http::Proxy "http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port
";Acquire::ftp::Proxy "ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port";but... it didn`t worklinux-debian:~# apt-get updateErr 
http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages  407 Proxy Authentication Required ( The ISA Server requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy service is denied.  )Err 
http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages  407 Proxy Authentication Required ( The ISA Server requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy service is denied.  )Ign 
http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Releasei tryed to configure the apt-setup and re-configure the http access but it didn`t work either..-- Hansel A. Ortiz PeraltaAnalista de Sistemas
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Weird cups problems

2006-07-11 Thread David A. Parker

Hello,

I am running Debian Etch, and I have recently upgraded cups on my 
system.  Aside from all of the other problems which have already been 
reported with the new version of cups, I have one I can't seem to find 
much information on.


Whenever I start cups, it puts several random network printers located 
in other people's offices into my /etc/printcap file and they show up 
when I go to localhost:631.  I do not actually have access to these 
printers, I can't delete them from within the web interface.  When I try 
to delete them, the "Delete Printer" button is a link to IP address of 
the printer, not to localhost.  For example, my IP address 10.3.1.40, 
and one of these printers show up as "i9900" and the device URI is 
"ipp://ip-3-1-216.utica.edu:631/printers/i9900".  The "Delete Printer" 
button is a link to 
"http://ip-3-1-216.utica.edu:631/admin/?op=delete-printer&printer_name=i9900"; 
and I get a "Forbidden" error when it tried to connect to 10.3.1.216.


I can't delete the /etc/printcap file because it just comes back the 
next time I restart cups.  I have removed and purged all cups packages, 
deleted the /etc/cups and /var/run/cups directories and the 
/etc/printcap file, reinstalled, and the same thing happens.  I have 
edited /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, turned browsing off and restarted cups, but 
it continues to find these same printers and place them into the file.


Does anyone have any ideas about this?  Is cups just plain broken right 
now, or can this be corrected?


Thanks!
Dave

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Re: Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version

2006-07-11 Thread Kent West

Dr Adrian Midgley (In th e office) wrote:

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Hash: SHA1

Dell Poweredge 1850 SCSI RAID
Running Sarge 2.4
Backports version of MySQL


Routine running of apt-get update ... upgrade produced this:-


Setting up linux-image-2.6.14-2-686-smp (2.6.14-6bpo1) ...
Running depmod.
Finding valid ramdisk creators.
Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version
2.6.14-2-686-smp on running kernel 2.4.27-2-686-smp in mkinitrd.yaird
mkinitramfs
dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.14-2-686-smp (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9


I've searched with Google and don't understand it.

I'd appreciate comments, advice etc.
  


I had this problem a few weeks ago, but I'm afraid I don't recall what 
fixed it. I vaguely remember having to reinstall initrd-tools or 
something similar.


I know this isn't any help, but at least you know someone else has seen 
a similar problem.


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Re: Force kill a process?

2006-07-11 Thread John Hasler
You cannot kill processes that are in the D state.  They are in
uninterruptable sleep in the kernel.
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Re: Force kill a process?

2006-07-11 Thread heba

2006/7/11, Hans du Plooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 09:28 -0400, Alec Berryman wrote:
> Can you 'invoke-rc.d proftpd stop'?
It runs without any error, but the processes are stillthere.

> will ask the process to exit.  kill -9  will tell it to quit, now.

Doesn't do anything :-(

Thanks
Hans



other way to kill the process...

_exit number of pid
_Exit number of pid
exit number of pid

these the easier commands, other are:

wait
wait2
wait4
waitpid

read the man and good luck.


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