configuring shell autologin

[Lee Glidewell]

First of all, why: this is for a single-user laptop with an encrypted hard 
drive. If someone gets past the initial passkey, they have all of my respect 
as well as my data. I'm trying to cut down on the amount of typing I have to 
do at startup (currently, between the hdd, the login, setting up wireless and 
unlocking the keyring that stores my e-mail/web passwords, I type 4 
passwords/-keys). 

I have so far tried two autologin solutions: rungetty, and this script (named 
as /sbin/autologin):
  #!/bin/bash
  exec 0/dev/$1 2>&1
  cat /etc/issue
  shift
  exec $*

I have setup tty1 to use these scripts for autologin, and get the same error 
message with both. Here are the inittab lines I used for each of the two:
  1:2345:respawn:/sbin/rungetty tty1 --autologin lee
and
  1:2345:respawn:/sbin/autologin tty1 login -f lee

In both cases, the response I get is that the terminal is respawning too 
frequently, and the terminal is locked for five minutes. I don't understand 
the getty applications well enough to figure out what to do next.

What am I missing? :)

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Re: Xorg broken in Lenny

[Sven Joachim]

On 2008-06-20 00:48 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> OK, time to check out in more detail what dpkg is doing when you try to
> install the package. You can use strace to see which files are being
> accessed:
>
> strace -f -e trace=file -o dpkg-file-strace.txt dpkg -i 
> /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb 

Another possibility which produces less clutter is to use dpkg's -D
option:

dpkg -D100 -i 
/var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb 
2>dpkg.log

Then grep for the offending file name in the generated log file.

Sven


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New version of fglrx broke my system

[Gabriel Parrondo]

I've been googling for hours trying to figure out how to solve this
problem that arised from the last upgrade:

I use lenny and the fglrx driver. With the last upgrade all fglrx
packages were upgraded from version 8.4.1 to 8.5.1. As with every fglrx
upgrade, I used m-a to rebuild the kernel modules.

After that, "Switching user" from gnome (GDM) crashed the system to the
point that not even sysrq would work.
Other procedures, such as stopping gdm and starting it again had the
same results (restarting it didn't).

The worst part is that there's nothing in the logs, it just crashes the
whole system silently.

I tried the following stuff with no success:
- Purging every fglrx package, reinstall and rebuild modules.
- Disabling composite in xorg.conf.
- Building xorg.conf from scratch (with fglrx-control)
- Use the vesa driver: This actually solved the Switch User problem, but
created a lot of others.

My video card is an ATI Radeon HD2400 (which means that, until the
radeonhd driver is ready, I have to stick with fglrx).


Anyway, I just downgraded to 8.4.1 and am able to switch users again
(with some limitations, but that's another story). If anyone has any
clue on what the problem could be, please let me know.



Thanks!


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Re: Root sending messages to users

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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 06:01:21PM +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>> Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> MK> Am 2008-06-17 04:01:26, schrieb i'll teach you to turn away.:
   does no one use 'talk' anymore?
>> MK> Ehm, this is for the console...  Better:  xtakl or linpopup
>>
>>  does no one use CLI anymore? :D
> 
> xmonad, urxvt, mutt, emacs-nox, mpc, irssi, screen...
> 
> A
A workable (but horrendously insecure) option i use when my housemate is
using my computer at home is to login to it, start screen.

Then login on a different pty and issue
xterm -display :0 -e "screen -x"
with vim already open in my screen session.

Can't use it with other nix users, (although i'd see them creating new
windows with my statusline), but works great for my technically
illiterate housemate.

That and putting xeyes all over his desktop remotely is hilarious.

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Re: Root sending messages to users

[i'll teach you to turn away.]

Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OT> On 18 Jun 2008 18:00:44 GMT, i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >> does no one use 'talk' anymore?
>> OT>   Talking is a viable option, though less convenient depending on the
>>  OT> distance between the computers. My brother and I used to chat over
>> i think you're going to have to leave this newsgroup after a
>>  response like that.
OT> *whoosh*, yeah, I completely missed talk(1).
OT> Where do I turn in my geek card...

well, at least you run debian & not ubuntu... right? ;D

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Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

[Mumia W..]

On 06/19/2008 02:22 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

Hi, debian!

My system: Debian Sarge, with little alteration other than a kernel
upgrade (to 2.6.8).

I currently have aptitude 0.2.15.9 compiled at Apr  7 2005 13:32:48.  I
am having severe problems with it, and have become totally confused.

I start aptitude.  This status message appears at the top right of the
screen:

#Broken: 12  Will free 16.7MB of disk space DL Size: 6215kB
[...]

Would somebody please explain what's happened to my system, and how to
fix it.  I would like to be able to _just_ install software, in
particular a >= 2.4 version of python.

Is there perhaps some command (apt-foo, perhaps??) which could rebuild
the package database on my system?

Is there perhaps a less flexible, easier to use package manager?
aptitude is about as complicated as mutt, but because I only use
aptitude at most a few times a year, I'm never going to get to grips
properly with it.

Thanks in advance for the help!



To know what is going on with your system, we would need to see your 
/etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/preferences files.


The output of this command would also help:
aptitude -sV upgrade

I suspect that your attempt to upgrade python broke your system. If you 
are not an expert with Debian, it is best to stick with a single 
distribution (e.g. "stable") rather than to mix distributions (e.g. 
"oldstable"+"stable").


One way to solve this problem would be to modify your 
/etc/apt/sources.list to contain only Sarge ("oldstable") sources and 
update aptitude. Then, using aptitude's interactive interface, remove 
those "obsolete and locally created packages" that seem to depend upon 
non-Sarge resources. Anything from "obsolete and locally created 
packages" that seems to be breaking the system should be removed. After 
that, confirm that aptitude is happy by doing another "aptitude -sV 
upgrade." Aptitude should not want to upgrade anything.


You need python (>= 2.4), and that version exists in Etch--which is why 
you wanted to mix distributions, but mixing distributions is a great way 
to break a Debian system, so you need backports. See if backports.org 
has a suitable version of python for you. If not, consider upgrading to 
Etch. As a Sarge user, you are not getting security updates, so you 
should probably want to upgrade soon anyway.


BTW, by mixing distributions, you would have problems regardless of 
which package manager you used.



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Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

[Daniel Burrows]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 07:22:24PM +, Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
was heard to say:
> #Broken: 12  Will free 16.7MB of disk space DL Size: 6215kB
> 
> .  Using the aptitude command `find broken', it reports, amongst others,
> vim as being broken, giving as further details:
> 
>   * vim depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6)
>   * vim depends on libncurses5 (>= 5.4-5)
>   * vim depends on vim-runtime (= 1:7.0-122+1etch3)
> 
> However, vim works just fine (I'm using it to write this email).

  First possible problem: aptitude uses "broken" as a shorthand for
"broken *after I apply what you've told me to do*".  Presumably canceling
the pending actions (e.g., via "Actions -> Cancel pending actions")
would drop this number to 0 (but you can't because your aptitude is too
old).  The fact that aptitude says it wants to download some packages and
change how much is installed also suggests you have some changes to your
system "queued up".

  I'm confused by those dependencies, though, because the version of vim
in sarge depends on libc6 >= 2.3.2.ds1-21 -- good thing, too, since the
version of libc6 in sarge is 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6.  Whatever vim aptitude
is looking at is not installable on sarge, presumably because you have
other releases in your sources.list and told aptitude to install vim
from one of them.  More on that later.

> #
> 
> So, I try to update aptitude itself (this will surely help me with my
> other problems ;-).  To begin with, I start aptitude, and type ":" on
> each of the 8 lines ("--- Security Updates", ., "--- Tasks") in the
> hope of clearing out dross.

  btw, to upgrade just aptitude it might be easier to run
"aptitude install aptitude".

> I now find aptitude in the list (Successively ing "Upgradeable
> Packages", "Admin", "Main", "Aptitude").  It gives a list of
> dependencies, but doesn't say whether it is the current aptitude
> (0.2.15.9) or the newest one (0.4.4-4) which so depends.  Which is it?
> Several of these are shaded red.

  The one shown by default is the default candidate version (the version
number on the far right).  If you pick a particular version, that one is
shown.

> I type "u", and it tells me it's connecting to several hosts (presumably
> to ask them if they're awake), and then that it's downloaded 0B in 21s
> at 0B/s.  Is this an error message, or an expected status message?  What
> is it trying to download here?

  When you hit "u", aptitude checks for updates to the list of available
package versions.  It doesn't download anything if there aren't any changes.

> I now type "g", and the heavens open.  In the top half of the screen I
> get the message:
> 
> --/  Packages being removed because they are no longer used:
> 
> followed by a frighteningly large list (about two hundred) packages
> shaded purple.  If this sentence were to be reformulated with the second
> verb active, e.g. "Packages being removed because X no longer uses
> them", what would X be?.  Then

  If you highlight various packages it should say what depends on them;
I might guess that they have to do with the packages being removed later.
I can't guess why the packages are being removed since you didn't say
what they are -- are they things you need or just libraries that nothing
depends on?

> --/  Packages being installed to satisfy dependencies
> 
> followed by 20 package names (such as cupsys-common, libgnutls13), then
> 
>--/  Packages being deleted due to unsatisfied dependencies
> 
> followed by an even frighteninglyier large list (~400 packages,
> including many libraries).  Lower down there is a list of 70 or 80
> packages to be updated.

  Same as above, highlighting the package will give you some sort of
information about why aptitude thinks they might be broken.  You could
also try canceling all these removals and seeing what aptitude tells you
is broken then.

  Without more information I can't really tell you why these packages
are being removed (and this version of aptitude uses the apt resolver,
which doesn't provide very detailed information about what's happening).

> How did I get into this state?  I tried several months ago to upgrade
> python (which I was trying again today), and all this happened.

  It's hard to say without more information; e.g., which packages are
being removed and why.

> I don't seem to be able to clear this dross out of my aptitude status.
> Where are the files which record all these things?  (There's no mention
> on the aptitude man page or the reference manual.)  The "u" command
> doesn't help here.  It downloads 0 bytes in 21s, again, and doesn't
> appear to do anything.

  Is there a reason you're still using sarge?  If you had the etch
version of aptitude you could use "Cancel pending actions" or
"aptitude keep-all" to throw out those actions out.  You can also remove
/var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates, but I don't recommend that except as a
last-ditch measure

Re: where is xmms?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 06/19/08 21:20, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> On 06/19/08 21:02, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>>> Ivan Glushkov wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
 to install xmms?

 lili2:/usr/src# apt-cache search xmms
>>> 
>>>
>>> I have sid i386 and xmms still shows up:
>>>
>>> ...
>>> wmxmms2 - remote-control dockapp for XMMS2
>>> ...
>>> xmms2 - Client/server based media player system
>>> ...
>>> xmms - Versatile X audio player
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Specifically wmxmms is handy with fvwm, which audacious doesn't have: it
>>> shows up as a docked application and clicking it will start it.
>>
>> It would be interesting to see what the results of this command are
>> on your computer:
>>
>> $ apt-cache policy xmms
>> xmms:
>>   Installed: (none)
>>   Candidate: (none)
>>   Version table:
>>
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy xmms
> xmms:
>   Installed: 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1
>   Candidate: 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1
>   Version table:
>  *** 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1 0
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Which indicates that it's not in Sid anymore...  Copy those .deb
files to a safe place before doing an "apt-get clean"!!!

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2008 #1154

[buyoppy]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>A common characteristic of encrypted data is that it has
a low degree
of redundancy; the method for which I provided code
performs a
rudimentary test for redundancy in the data simply by
attempting to
compress it.  If you want a better method of attacking the
problem,
and to be sure there are more sophisticated techniques,
you will need
to learn about information theory.

 Thank you very much for your teaching. I'm looking for a
way to inspect strictly which range is encrypted in a
sequence of bytes which may contain plain data partially.
So I think your method is of limited use in my case any
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Re: where is xmms?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 06/19/08 21:02, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ivan Glushkov wrote:

Hi all,
I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
to install xmms?

lili2:/usr/src# apt-cache search xmms



I have sid i386 and xmms still shows up:

...
wmxmms2 - remote-control dockapp for XMMS2
...
xmms2 - Client/server based media player system
...
xmms - Versatile X audio player
...

Specifically wmxmms is handy with fvwm, which audacious doesn't have: it
shows up as a docked application and clicking it will start it.


It would be interesting to see what the results of this command are
on your computer:

$ apt-cache policy xmms
xmms:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy xmms
xmms:
  Installed: 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1
  Candidate: 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Hugo


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Re: where is xmms?

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On 06/19/08 21:02, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ivan Glushkov wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
>> to install xmms?
>>
>> lili2:/usr/src# apt-cache search xmms
> 
> 
> 
> I have sid i386 and xmms still shows up:
> 
> ...
> wmxmms2 - remote-control dockapp for XMMS2
> ...
> xmms2 - Client/server based media player system
> ...
> xmms - Versatile X audio player
> ...
> 
> Specifically wmxmms is handy with fvwm, which audacious doesn't have: it
> shows up as a docked application and clicking it will start it.

It would be interesting to see what the results of this command are
on your computer:

$ apt-cache policy xmms
xmms:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:

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Re: where is xmms?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Ivan Glushkov wrote:

Hi all,
I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility 
to install xmms?


lili2:/usr/src# apt-cache search xmms




I have sid i386 and xmms still shows up:

...
wmxmms2 - remote-control dockapp for XMMS2
...
xmms2 - Client/server based media player system
...
xmms - Versatile X audio player
...

Specifically wmxmms is handy with fvwm, which audacious doesn't have: it 
shows up as a docked application and clicking it will start it.


Hugo


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Re: [SOLVED] Mysql fails to install after "aptitude purge mysql-server --purge-unused"

[S D]

--- On Thu, 6/19/08, Florian Kulzer 

> Maybe you can recreate the /etc/mysql/conf.d/ directory and
> the installation will be successful.

That was one of the first things I tried but it didn't work out, it leads to 
more problems.



> If that does not work then run
> 
> dpkg -S etc/mysql
> 
> to find out which packages on your system should have files

That was a brilliant suggestion. I knew about "dpkg -S" but somehow I assumed 
that everything related to mysql-server was removed when I purged it. Not so.

mysql-common was left over as some other packages depended on it and that was 
causing the problem. Purging mysql-common (and the dependent packages) and then 
reinstalling resolved the issue.

Thanks a lot for your help.


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Re: minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 05:16:47PM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote:
> A,
>
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
>> if you decide to investigate other minimalist WM's you might look at
>> xmonad. It's all keyboard controlled, tiled with a variety of
>> customizable tiling layouts. pretty fun(unctional).
>
> Actually, I was using xmonad before switching to DWM.  I'll take  
> configuring DWM via editing a C header file(config.h) and recompiling DWM 
> over Haskell any day.  :-)  Actually I've tried xmonad, ion3, ratpoison,  
> awesome, evilwm, stumpwm, and probably a few others I'm forgetting.  I  
> ended up trying DWM a couple of times before I got hooked.
>
> Oh, did I mention I use the vimperator Firefox plugin to give my browser 
> a vim look/feel.


I started with wmii, played with some others, and then stumbled on
xmonad and got hooked. to each their own. Just like
vimperator... tried it but I'm apparently not a vim guy... emacs seems
to suit me better, thus vimperator was a bad fit. I find I use a text
browser more and more.

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Has libsane to depend on libsane-extras ?

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Hi,

When trying to get to work Epson scanners which are only supported by
the iscan driver (not a Debian package, sources provided by 
http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL1.do), I find out that on 
Debian Lenny libsane depends on libsane-extras, and libsane-extras is 
getting in the way of iscan install (they are both providing 
/usr/lib/sane/libsane-epkowa.so.1 ).


I did the install on Ubuntus Hardy Heron 64 and had no problem 
(libsane-extras isn't required with libsane). But when trying to do the 
install on Lenny 64 I ran into this issue and wondered why 
libsane-extras has to be dragged along with libsane since most of the 
time it's not really required.


I got the issue worked-around by creating a .deb of iscan and "dpkg -i
--force-overwrite" it, but it's dirty, apt is going to complain on next
libsane-extras update and possibly break everything.

Can someone enlighten me about the necessity of libsane-extras being a 
libsane dependency and not a "recommended" when "extras" should only be 
that ?


Is there a way to not have libsane-extras installed along with libsane 
despite it being a dependency, and blacklist it forever from 
apt/aptitude upgrades ?


Thanks,

Tom


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Re: google toolbar for firefox 3

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Bogdan Marian wrote:

Hello,

I installed Firefox 3 on a custom place on my computer. Everything is
ok. However, i would like to install Google Toolbar for it, but it says
it is not compatible. Weird, my girlfriend has Google Toolbar installed
on her Ubuntu -> firefox 3. I'm on Etch/KDE. Any clues?



I have Sid's iceweasel 3 and had the Google toolbar for that version.
I removed it afterwards and I cannot find a reference to that version.

Hugo


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Re: can't print from adobe reader

[Paul Cartwright]

On Thu June 19 2008, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > I changed it to custom. With my printer selected, it showed:
> > Status: lpq: Epson 880:unknown printer
> > with custom selected, the printer command showed:
> > /usr/bin/lp
>
> Can you print with the custom setting?
>
> If not, does changing the command to "/usr/bin/lpr" improve the
> situation?
I changed it to custom and used /usr/bin/lpr as the command. It accepted it, 
then did nothing. No error, but no print.
>
> In an X terminal, what do you get from these commands:
>
> lpq
# lpq
no entries

>
> lpstat -a
# lpstat -a
Epson_880 accepting requests since Sun 10 Feb 2008 12:42:12 PM EST
epson_greyscale accepting requests since Sun 10 Feb 2008 12:43:20 PM EST
EpsonR380 accepting requests since Thu 19 Jun 2008 06:42:49 PM EDT
HP_8100_photoSmart accepting requests since Wed 30 Jan 2008 08:32:36 AM EST
paulandcilla:/etc/dhcp3# lpstat -t
scheduler is running
system default destination: EpsonR380
device for Epson_880: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20COLOR%20880
device for epson_greyscale: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20COLOR%20880
device for EpsonR380: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R380
device for HP_8100_photoSmart: 
usb://HP/Photosmart%208100%20series?serial=MY4681M0GS040Z
Epson_880 accepting requests since Sun 10 Feb 2008 12:42:12 PM EST
epson_greyscale accepting requests since Sun 10 Feb 2008 12:43:20 PM EST
EpsonR380 accepting requests since Thu 19 Jun 2008 06:42:49 PM EDT
HP_8100_photoSmart accepting requests since Wed 30 Jan 2008 08:32:36 AM EST
printer Epson_880 is idle.  enabled since Sun 10 Feb 2008 12:42:12 PM EST
printer epson_greyscale is idle.  enabled since Sun 10 Feb 2008 12:43:20 PM 
EST
printer EpsonR380 is idle.  enabled since Thu 19 Jun 2008 06:42:49 PM EDT
printer HP_8100_photoSmart is idle.  enabled since Wed 30 Jan 2008 08:32:36 AM 
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Re: where is xmms?

[Paul Johnson]

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 19:24 -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
> It has been replaced by Audacious, which looks and works exactly the 
> same.
> 
> I liked XMMS, and am happy with Audacious.

Wow, that package changes names every few years, doesn't it?  It was
X11Amp, then XMMS, now Audacious...

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Re: A symlink that stays

[Hubert Chathi]

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:50:41 -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> On 06/18/08 21:25, Hubert Chathi wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:00:14 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>> 
>>> Hi.  I am installing ewire on a customers server and it needs a
>>> symlink from libssl.so.0.9.8 to libssl.so, I am worried if apt
>>> updates the version and the symlink suddenly stops working.
>> 
>>> Any suggestions as to how to keep track of this? Or another clever
>>> solution?
>> 
>> The symlink should be installed in the libssl-dev package.

> Why?  Why not in libssl?

> IOW, why should a production server need to install -dev packages?

It shouldn't.  Any program (other than a linker) that requires that
symlink is broken.

The soname indicates the version of the ABI (Application Binary
Interface) for the library.  If a program tries to use the libssl.so
symlink, and was compiled against one version of OpenSSL, but finds a
different version of OpenSSL with a different ABI version, bad things
may happen.  That symlink really should only be used by the linker to
link against the latest version of the library at compile-time, and
shouldn't be used at run-time.

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Re: where is xmms?

[Curt Howland]

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It has been replaced by Audacious, which looks and works exactly the 
same.

I liked XMMS, and am happy with Audacious.

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Re: Xorg broken in Lenny

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 17:16:36 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:27:22 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
> >> Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:25:16 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
>  Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 16:03:33 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
> >> Xorg stopped working after a recent dist-upgrade of Lenny (Testing). 
> >> The problem
> >> seems to be that the package xserver-xorg-core will not install. dpkg 
> >> is unable
> >> to create `./usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so'. 

[...]

> > Check if you can actually extract the file (and all other files in the
> > deb) to some $TEMPDIR with:
> > 
> > dpkg-deb -X 
> > /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.4.1~git200800517-1_i386.deb 
> > $TEMPDIR
> > 
> > Then check what "file" reports for the extracted libfbw.so in the
> > temporary location.
> > 
> The deb file extracts to ~/tmp OK and libwfb.so exists:
> 
> ~# file tmp/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
> tmp/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386,
> version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, not stripped
> 
> [...]
> > 
> > Can you generate libwfb.so in the proper location with touch (as root)?
> 
> Yes, I can create the empty file /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so using touch.
> 
> > Does the existence of an empty libwfb.so help with the installation?
> > What if you extract the file from the .deb and put it into place
> > yourself?
> 
> No. The installation halts even though /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so exists
> (copied from the temporary extraction directory).

[...]

> I've tried using dpkg directly to install the deb. I get the same error, of 
> course:
> # dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.4.1~git20080517-
> -1_i386.deb
> [...]
>  unable to create `./usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so': No such file or 
> directory
> 
> The dot in front of the install path worries me slightly. Shouldn't dpkg 
> install
> directly into /usr ?

The leading dot means that the path starts from the current working
directory, which should be / at this point, so all should be OK. (Note
that all paths in a "dpkg-deb -c" listing have the leading dot.)

OK, time to check out in more detail what dpkg is doing when you try to
install the package. You can use strace to see which files are being
accessed:

strace -f -e trace=file -o dpkg-file-strace.txt dpkg -i 
/var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb 

The generated output, dpkg-file-strace.txt, will be too long to be
posted on the list. The best option would be if you could put the file
on a publicly accessible website or FTP server.

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Fwd: Root sending messages to users

[Brian McKee]

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The wife uses one computer, I use another. We are both connected to
> the internet via a router, as such we can SSH into one another's
> boxen. Is there a way to pop up a message on the wife's machine, by
> SSHing in and having root access. We both use KDE 3.x if it matters. I
> notice that when I shutdown her machine remotely, she gets a popup
> message stating that the computer is going down, so I see that the
> basic infrastructure of having root pop up messages to users is in
> place.

Does 'sudo wall' work for you?  I don't have a machine handy to try -
but it used to pop up in X too IIRC
Sends it to everybody - but if it's a one user box...

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Re: can't print from adobe reader

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 21:47:18 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Wed June 18 2008, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > I'm assuming this is because adobe reader is setup with LPR ?? as opposed
> > > to CUPS?? if so, how do I change it to CUPS ??
> >
> > I see all my defined CUPS printers in the Adobe reader print dialog and
> > they all work. I think this depends on having "cups-bsd" installed.
> > (Lenny still uses the name "cupsys-bsd" for the relevant package right
> > now.)
> except that I have that installed:
> ii  cupsys  1.3.7-5   
>   
> Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server
> rc  cupsys-bsd  1.3.7-5   
>   
> Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands
> 
> >
> > > oh yeah, running Lenny on my desktop
> > > just ran the latest updates this morning..
> >
> > You can also set the printer name to "Custom..." in the print dialog in
> > the Adobe reader, then you can define the print command yourself. If you
> > are using KDE anyway then you can simply set this command to "kprinter"
> > (without any parameters) then you will get the usual KDE print dialog
> > with all its features once you press "OK" in Adobe's print dialog. I
> > like setting up my system like this because it gives me easy access to
> > kprinter functions like "Send to Fax" from within the Adobe reader.
> 
> I changed it to custom. With my printer selected, it showed:
> Status: lpq: Epson 880:unknown printer
> with custom selected, the printer command showed:
> /usr/bin/lp

Can you print with the custom setting?

If not, does changing the command to "/usr/bin/lpr" improve the
situation?

In an X terminal, what do you get from these commands:

lpq

lpstat -a

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Re: Mysql fails to install after "aptitude purge mysql-server --purge-unused"

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 15:46:41 -0700, S D wrote:
> > That line in the script reads:
> > 
> > echo -e "# created by
> > debconf\n[mysqld]\nold_passwords = $RET" >
> > /etc/mysql/conf.d/old_passwords.cnf
> > 
> > This does not seem to require that old_passwords.cnf exists
> > beforehand.
> > Is there still enough space on all the relevant partitions,
> 
> Yes, free space doesn't seem to be a problem, there's plenty of it.
> 
> > does the
> > /etc/mysql/conf.d/ directory exist? 
> 
> The "/etc/mysql" directory no longer exists, so no. As I remember the
> first time I tried to purge mysql the "/etc/mysql" directory wasn't
> purged as it had some files in it, so I removed it manually, I wanted
> a new, fresh, clean installation. That, perhaps, was the beginning of
> my downfall.

Maybe you can recreate the /etc/mysql/conf.d/ directory and the
installation will be successful. I see the following directory on my
system:

$ ls -ld /etc/mysql/
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-06-11 11:27 /etc/mysql/

$ ls -l /etc/mysql/
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-15 19:11 conf.d
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3865 2008-04-25 17:58 my.cnf

Try to create these directories with the same ownership and permissions.

If that does not work then run

dpkg -S etc/mysql

to find out which packages on your system should have files in
/etc/mysql. Then try to reinstall all these packages.

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Re: selecting desktop when installing

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 00:02:30 +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote:
> Hi
> 
> This is probably a very basic question but i'd appreciate any tips. 
> 
> I installed lenny recently and selected my iso image from here: 
> 
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-kde-CD-1.iso
> 
> I didn't have any problem installing it's just the desktop is gnome not
> kde. The same happened when i selected the iso below it in from the same
> mirror which is the xfce desktop. 
> 
> The installer didn't give an option to select which desktop environment
> i wanted, i just assumed it would be kde. 
> 
> What should i do to get the desktop environment i want?

With the system up and running you can use your preferred package
manager to install the "kde" metapackage. This will automatically pull
in all the KDE components. Install the "kdm" package as well if you want
a graphical log-in screen. (Do not hesitate to ask for further
clarifications about this procedure if necessary.)

At install time you can type something like

install tasks="kde-desktop, standard"

or

installgui tasks="kde-desktop, standard"

at the boot prompt to get KDE directly. (I hope I remember these
commands correctly; have a look at the installer documentation if this
does not work.)

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Re: where is xmms?

[Eugene V. Lyubimkin]

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Ivan Glushkov wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
> to install xmms?

Xmms has been removed from Debian archive.
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Re: where is xmms?

[Michael Shuler]

On 06/19/2008 02:46 PM, Ivan Glushkov wrote:
I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility 
to install xmms?


Audacious is a fork of xmms and works quite well for me.
http://audacious-media-player.org/

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Re: where is xmms?

[Michal R. Hoffmann]

On 19/06/08 22:34, Mark Allums wrote:

Ivan Glushkov wrote:
 > Hi all,
 > I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
 > to install xmms?
 >

If I understand correctly, xmms is no longer considered stable or 
reliable; it has no maintainer, and has been abandoned by the upstream 
maintainer.  So, people using it need to transition to something else. 
I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.


I would recommend Audacious. Previously I used winamp on Windows and 
xmms on Linux. Audacious is very similar in 'feel', very sleek and does 
the job. Plays mp3, mpc, ogg, flac, possibly many more :) Install 
plugins package as well.


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Re: where is xmms?

[Mark Allums]

Ivan Glushkov wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
> to install xmms?
>

If I understand correctly, xmms is no longer considered stable or 
reliable; it has no maintainer, and has been abandoned by the upstream 
maintainer.  So, people using it need to transition to something else. 
I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.



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Re: HP Pavilion serrie DV6700

[Forsaken]

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:11:12 -0400
Tenant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> The 17" has room for two hard drives. Has anyone set up dual booting 
> on such a machine?

I don't have an hp laptop, but I do have one that has 2 hard drive bays
in it. Depending on the BIOS, you have to be a little careful... mine
has built in raid options which don't appear in the bios unless there
are two hard drives installed, and it defaults to a RAID1 setup. After
turning that stuff off so that both drives could be seen individually,
it's just like multi-booting on a desktop. I currently have Ubuntu,
OpenBSD and Windows XP on the multiboot for mine.


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Re: Xorg broken in Lenny

[Chris Lale]

Mumia W.. wrote:
> On 06/19/2008 11:16 AM, Chris Lale wrote:
>> [...]
>> I've checked the exact size of the deb with "ls -l" (4070872 Byte),
>> which is the
>> value given on the Debian website [1]. However, I cannot check the MD5
>> checksum
>> (bca5e59168c73a3c8661069df80f368a) using
>> # md5sum --check xserver-xorg-core_1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb
>> md5sum: xserver-xorg-core_1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb: no properly
>> formatted
>> MD5 checksum lines found
>> In fact, I get the same error for any .deb file, so I'm missing
>> something here.
>> [...]
> 
> "md5sum --check" wants to see a file listing the MD5 hashes for files in
> the current directory:
> 
> md5sum --check MD5SUMS.txt
> 
> If you don't have such a file, just view the hash yourself:
> 
> md5sum xserver-xorg-core_1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb
> 
> 
> 

OK, thanks Mumia. The md5sum is generated and is correct.

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Re: Hooks for read-only /usr

[Mumia W..]

On 06/19/2008 03:12 AM, James Youngman wrote:

I like to have a read-only /usr filesystem.   So I have ...

# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50readonly-usr
DPkg
{
   // Auto re-mounting of a readonly /usr
   Pre-Invoke {"mount -o remount,rw /usr";};
   Post-Invoke {"mount -o remount,ro /usr || true";};
}


Unfortunately this works quite badly.   During execution of apt,
services are stopped and started again, so it is frequently the case
that by the time apt runs the Post-invoke hook, processes are holding
open files in /usr.   This prevents /usr being re-mounted (that's the
reason for the "|| true").  Is there a better way to do this?

One idea that occurred to me was to have dpkg do this; it could
remount /usr read-write before removing the old files and unpacking
the new, and mount it read-only after perhaps the package
configuration stage (before restarting things).

Anyway, is something like this already possible?

Thanks,
James.




It may be possible. You could use "at" to schedule the remounting of 
/usr at a later time, e.g. 10 minutes:


Post-Invoke {
  "echo 'mount -o remount,ro /usr' | at now + 10 minutes
}

You'll have to hope that whatever processes using /usr have finished by 
the time the mount command executes, and there will be a window during 
which time /usr will be writable. It's kludgy, but I don't think you'll 
find a non-kludgy solution for this.


Anyway, good luck.


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Re: Xorg broken in Lenny

[Mumia W..]

On 06/19/2008 11:16 AM, Chris Lale wrote:

[...]
I've checked the exact size of the deb with "ls -l" (4070872 Byte), which is the
value given on the Debian website [1]. However, I cannot check the MD5 checksum
(bca5e59168c73a3c8661069df80f368a) using
# md5sum --check xserver-xorg-core_1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb
md5sum: xserver-xorg-core_1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb: no properly formatted
MD5 checksum lines found
In fact, I get the same error for any .deb file, so I'm missing something here.
[...]


"md5sum --check" wants to see a file listing the MD5 hashes for files in 
the current directory:


md5sum --check MD5SUMS.txt

If you don't have such a file, just view the hash yourself:

md5sum xserver-xorg-core_1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb



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where is xmms?

[Ivan Glushkov]

Hi all,
I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility to
install xmms?

lili2:/usr/src# apt-cache search xmms
abraca - A simple and powerful graphical client for XMMS2
ample - A simple MP3 server easy to use
audtty - ncurses based frontend to audacious
cynthiune.app - A free software and romantic music player for GNUstep
esperanza - XMMS2 client which aims to be as feature-full and easy-to-use as
possible
flac - Free Lossless Audio Codec - command line tools
fvwm-crystal - Pretty Desktop Environment based on fvwm
gdesklets-data - Applets for gdesklets
gkrellxmms2 - GKrellM plugin to control xmms2
gxmms2 - xmms2 client for the GNOME desktop
icecast-server - MPEG Layer III Streaming Server
kicker-applets - applets for Kicker, the KDE panel
libaudio-xmmsclient-perl - XMMS2 - perl client library
libflac++-dev - Free Lossless Audio Codec - C++ development library
libflac++6 - Free Lossless Audio Codec - C++ runtime library
libflac-dev - Free Lossless Audio Codec - C development library
libflac-doc - Free Lossless Audio Codec - library documentation
libflac8 - Free Lossless Audio Codec - runtime C library
libmodplug-dev - development files for mod music based on ModPlug
libmodplug0c2 - shared libraries for mod music based on ModPlug
libsmpeg0 - SDL MPEG Player Library - shared libraries
libxmmsclient++-dev - XMMS2 - client library for c++ - development files
libxmmsclient++-glib-dev - XMMS2 - glib client library for c++ - development
files
libxmmsclient++-glib1 - XMMS2 - glib client library for c++
libxmmsclient++2 - XMMS2 - client library for c++
libxmmsclient-dev - XMMS2 - client library devel files
libxmmsclient-glib-dev - XMMS2 - glib client library - development files
libxmmsclient-glib1 - XMMS2 - glib client library
libxmmsclient-ruby - XMMS2 - Ruby client library
libxmmsclient-ruby1.8 - XMMS2 - Ruby bindings
libxmmsclient3 - XMMS2 - client library
pidgin-musictracker - Plugin for Pidgin which displays the current music
track in your status
pidgin-plugin-pack - 30 useful plugins for pidgin
prokyon3 - A mp3 and ogg/vorbis manager and tag editor
pulseaudio - PulseAudio sound server
python-xmmsclient - XMMS2 - Python bindings
pytone - Music jukebox with advanced features for DJs and a text-mode user
interface
somaplayer - player audio for the soma suite
vorbisgain - add Replay Gain volume tags to Ogg Vorbis files
wmauda - remote-control dockapp for Audacious
wmxmms2 - remote-control dockapp for XMMS2
xfce4-goodies - enhancements for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
xmms2 - Client/server based media player system
xmms2-client-avahi - XMMS2 - avahi client
xmms2-client-cli - XMMS2 - cli client
xmms2-client-medialib-updater - XMMS2 - medialib-updater client
xmms2-core - XMMS2 - core package
xmms2-dev - XMMS2 - plugin development files
xmms2-et - XMMS2 - phone home package
xmms2-plugin-all - XMMS2 - all plugins
xmms2-plugin-alsa - XMMS2 - ALSA output
xmms2-plugin-ao - XMMS2 - libao output plugin
xmms2-plugin-asf - XMMS2 - ASF plugin
xmms2-plugin-asx - XMMS2 - ASX playlist plugin
xmms2-plugin-avcodec - XMMS2 - avcodec decoder
xmms2-plugin-avformat - XMMS2 - avformat demuxer
xmms2-plugin-cdda - XMMS2 - CDDA plugin
xmms2-plugin-cue - XMMS2 - CUE playlist plugin
xmms2-plugin-curl - XMMS2 - curl transport for HTTP
xmms2-plugin-daap - XMMS2 - daap plugin
xmms2-plugin-faad - XMMS2 - faad decoder
xmms2-plugin-flac - XMMS2 - flac decoder
xmms2-plugin-gnomevfs - XMMS2 - GnomeVFS transport
xmms2-plugin-ices - XMMS2 - ogg streaming output
xmms2-plugin-icymetaint - XMMS2 - shoutcast metadata plugin
xmms2-plugin-id3v2 - XMMS2 - ID3v2 plugin
xmms2-plugin-jack - XMMS2 - JACK output
xmms2-plugin-lastfm - XMMS2 - Last.FM plugin
xmms2-plugin-m3u - XMMS2 - M3U playlist plugin
xmms2-plugin-mad - XMMS2 - libmad based mp3 decoder
xmms2-plugin-mms - XMMS2 - MMS transport
xmms2-plugin-modplug - XMMS2 - modplug decoder
xmms2-plugin-mp4 - XMMS2 - MPEG-4 plugin
xmms2-plugin-musepack - XMMS2 - mpc decoder
xmms2-plugin-normalize - XMMS2 - Normalize plugin
xmms2-plugin-ofa - XMMS2 - OFA plugin
xmms2-plugin-oss - XMMS2 - OSS output
xmms2-plugin-pls - XMMS2 - PLS playlist plugin
xmms2-plugin-pulse - XMMS2 - pulseaudio output plugin
xmms2-plugin-rss - XMMS2 - RSS podcast plugin
xmms2-plugin-sid - XMMS2 - libsidplay2 based decoder
xmms2-plugin-smb - XMMS2 - Samba transport
xmms2-plugin-vocoder - XMMS2 - vocoder plugin
xmms2-plugin-vorbis - XMMS2 - vorbis decoder
xmms2-plugin-wma - XMMS2 - wma decoder
xmms2-plugin-xml - XMMS2 - XML plugin
xmms2-plugin-xspf - XMMS2 - XSPF playist plugin
xmms2-scrobbler - Audioscrobbler/Last.FM client for xmms2
xmms2tray - systray integration for XMMS2
libflac++5 - Free Lossless Audio Codec - C++ runtime library
libflac7 - Free Lossless Audio Codec - runtime C library
liboggflac++-dev - Free Lossless Audio Codec - C++ development library (ogg)
liboggflac++2 - Free Lossless Audio Codec - C++ runtime library (ogg)
liboggflac-dev - Free Lossless Audio Codec - C development library (ogg)
liboggflac3 

Solved: google toolbar for firefox 3

[Bogdan Marian]

I just realized that because i had both iceweasel 2.0.0.8 and Firefox 3 
on my system, they were both reading the same config file, and Firefox 
was named 2.0.0.8 in there...that's why google toolbar was 
complaining...Edited it to 3.0.0 and that solved my problem.


BR,

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Hello,

I installed Firefox 3 on a custom place on my computer. Everything is
ok. However, i would like to install Google Toolbar for it, but it says
it is not compatible. Weird, my girlfriend has Google Toolbar installed
on her Ubuntu -> firefox 3. I'm on Etch/KDE. Any clues?

Thx,

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google toolbar for firefox 3

[Bogdan Marian]

Hello,

I installed Firefox 3 on a custom place on my computer. Everything is
ok. However, i would like to install Google Toolbar for it, but it says
it is not compatible. Weird, my girlfriend has Google Toolbar installed
on her Ubuntu -> firefox 3. I'm on Etch/KDE. Any clues?

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Re: Root sending messages to users

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/6/17 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> From your machine you could do a:
>
>> ssh root wife-machine -c 'su - wife -c\"echo "I will kill your machine NOW! 
>> |xmessage -display :0.0 -file -\" && shutdown -r now'
>
> or:
>
>apt-get install linpopup
>

Thanks. Linpopup doesn't quite fit the bill, but xmessage does. Well,
it would if it supported UTF-8...

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

[Alan Mackenzie]

Hi, debian!

My system: Debian Sarge, with little alteration other than a kernel
upgrade (to 2.6.8).

I currently have aptitude 0.2.15.9 compiled at Apr  7 2005 13:32:48.  I
am having severe problems with it, and have become totally confused.

I start aptitude.  This status message appears at the top right of the
screen:

#Broken: 12  Will free 16.7MB of disk space DL Size: 6215kB

.  Using the aptitude command `find broken', it reports, amongst others,
vim as being broken, giving as further details:

  * vim depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6)
  * vim depends on libncurses5 (>= 5.4-5)
  * vim depends on vim-runtime (= 1:7.0-122+1etch3)

However, vim works just fine (I'm using it to write this email).

#

So, I try to update aptitude itself (this will surely help me with my
other problems ;-).  To begin with, I start aptitude, and type ":" on
each of the 8 lines ("--- Security Updates", ., "--- Tasks") in the
hope of clearing out dross.

I now find aptitude in the list (Successively ing "Upgradeable
Packages", "Admin", "Main", "Aptitude").  It gives a list of
dependencies, but doesn't say whether it is the current aptitude
(0.2.15.9) or the newest one (0.4.4-4) which so depends.  Which is it?
Several of these are shaded red.

I type "u", and it tells me it's connecting to several hosts (presumably
to ask them if they're awake), and then that it's downloaded 0B in 21s
at 0B/s.  Is this an error message, or an expected status message?  What
is it trying to download here?

I now type "g", and the heavens open.  In the top half of the screen I
get the message:

--/  Packages being removed because they are no longer used:

followed by a frighteningly large list (about two hundred) packages
shaded purple.  If this sentence were to be reformulated with the second
verb active, e.g. "Packages being removed because X no longer uses
them", what would X be?.  Then

--/  Packages being installed to satisfy dependencies

followed by 20 package names (such as cupsys-common, libgnutls13), then

   --/  Packages being deleted due to unsatisfied dependencies

followed by an even frighteninglyier large list (~400 packages,
including many libraries).  Lower down there is a list of 70 or 80
packages to be updated.

At this point, I type "q" to quit, for fear of utterly fubarring my
system, and in a state of high confusion.

#

OK, my system works.  Nothing I do on my Debian box from day to day
seems affected by any of the alleged dependency problems.  To be honest,
I don't really believe aptitude's assertions of brokenness.

How did I get into this state?  I tried several months ago to upgrade
python (which I was trying again today), and all this happened.

I don't seem to be able to clear this dross out of my aptitude status.
Where are the files which record all these things?  (There's no mention
on the aptitude man page or the reference manual.)  The "u" command
doesn't help here.  It downloads 0 bytes in 21s, again, and doesn't
appear to do anything.

Would somebody please explain what's happened to my system, and how to
fix it.  I would like to be able to _just_ install software, in
particular a >= 2.4 version of python.

Is there perhaps some command (apt-foo, perhaps??) which could rebuild
the package database on my system?

Is there perhaps a less flexible, easier to use package manager?
aptitude is about as complicated as mutt, but because I only use
aptitude at most a few times a year, I'm never going to get to grips
properly with it.

Thanks in advance for the help!

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Re: windows prog on linux

[Manon Metten]

Hi Bela,

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:01 AM, abdelkader belahcene
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a program written for XP, I want to run it on my linux debian,
> I tried wine, I didn't do want, is ther another emulator or another
> procedure;

Check out this link: http://win4lin.net/content/
The only other thing you need is an XP license.
Though it's not open source, it works perfect for me.

Manon.


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Firefox 2.0.0.14 crashing (was Re: .xsession-errors)

[Manon Metten]

Hi Raju,

On 6/7/08, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Manon Metten wrote:
>
>  > The only problem I have lately is Firefox 2.0.0.14 crashing regularly.
>  > Everything else is running fine.
>
> No. The opcode errors do not correspond to the firefox crashes. The best way
>  to track down the iceweasel crashes is to disable all the add-ons and start
>  iceweasel in a safe mode using "iceweasel -safe-mode". Another thing to
>  look for are the flash packages installed on the system. FWIW, I am running
>  Debian Etch, iceweasel 2.0.0.14 and it does not crash at all!


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Re: We need your Feed Back to evaluate the restaurants in Damascus

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On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 22:41 +0530,   wrote:
> I feel very odd, receiving a mail from a reputed list like
> this. :( Why it happens..? I request to remove mails of this type from
> thread..

Please don't reply to spam on the mailing list, especially when quoting
it, as it can be problematic for bayesian mail filters to learn right
from wrong then.  Just look up the offending spam in the list archives
and click the report as spam link.

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Re: Iceweasel upgrade - can I go back?

[Petteri]

Hugo Vanwoerkom kirjoitti ke 18. kesäkuuta 2008 09:20:33:
> Alan Chandler wrote:
>> On Wednesday 18 Jun 2008, Robin wrote:
>>> 2008/6/18 Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 I am running Sid, and in the past couple of days it upgraded
 iceweasel. Now I can't run firebird - essential for development of
 some facilities on my web site.

 Can I easily undo that upgrade?  If so how
>>> Unless you have cleaned out packages or clean out packages
>>> automatically you can cd to /var/cache/apt/archives and dpkg -i
>>> iceweasel-version from there.
>>
>> Unfortunately they are cleaned automatically and are gone
>>
>>
>
> Ans you don't have an other installation with the previous
> installation of iceweasel to run dpkg-repack?

There is also http://snapshot.debian.net site, which is an archive of
debian packages.


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Re: Xorg broken in Lenny

[Chris Lale]

Hello Florian. Thanks for your suggestions.

Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:27:22 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
>> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:25:16 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 16:03:33 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
>> Xorg stopped working after a recent dist-upgrade of Lenny (Testing). The 
>> problem
>> seems to be that the package xserver-xorg-core will not install. dpkg is 
>> unable
>> to create `./usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so'. 
>>> [ snip: We verified that there is enough space on left on the root
>>>   partition. /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so does not exist so far; I am
>>>   not sure if that is OK. (I suspected some problem with attributes
>>>   making it impossible to overwrite the file.) ]
>>>
>>> Just to be on the safe side: Check with "mount" if your root partition
>>> is mounted rw.
>> Permissions of root partition (/dev/hda11) look OK:
[...]
>> The file .deb file exists in the cache:
[...]
>> The file libwfb.so in the .deb seems OK:
[...]
> 
> Check if you can actually extract the file (and all other files in the
> deb) to some $TEMPDIR with:
> 
> dpkg-deb -X 
> /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.4.1~git200800517-1_i386.deb 
> $TEMPDIR
> 
> Then check what "file" reports for the extracted libfbw.so in the
> temporary location.
> 
The deb file extracts to ~/tmp OK and libwfb.so exists:

~# file tmp/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
tmp/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386,
version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, not stripped

[...]
> 
> Can you generate libwfb.so in the proper location with touch (as root)?

Yes, I can create the empty file /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so using touch.

> Does the existence of an empty libwfb.so help with the installation?
> What if you extract the file from the .deb and put it into place
> yourself?

No. The installation halts even though /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so exists
(copied from the temporary extraction directory).

> 
> Try to download the .deb again, maybe from another mirror, etc.
> 

I've already tried changing mirrors and clearing the cache (aptitude clean)
before downloading. I've also switched from the "lenny" to "testing"
repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list.
[...]

I've tried using dpkg directly to install the deb. I get the same error, of 
course:
# dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.4.1~git20080517-
-1_i386.deb
[...]
 unable to create `./usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so': No such file or directory

The dot in front of the install path worries me slightly. Shouldn't dpkg install
directly into /usr ?

I've checked the exact size of the deb with "ls -l" (4070872 Byte), which is the
value given on the Debian website [1]. However, I cannot check the MD5 checksum
(bca5e59168c73a3c8661069df80f368a) using
# md5sum --check xserver-xorg-core_1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb
md5sum: xserver-xorg-core_1.4.1~git20080517-1_i386.deb: no properly formatted
MD5 checksum lines found
In fact, I get the same error for any .deb file, so I'm missing something here.

I've checked that libwfb.so only exists in two packages, so there are no 
duplicates:
/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.soxserver-xorg-core-dbg
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so xserver-xorg-core

I've tried installing other random packages eg "smartmontools", but aptitude
always wants to upgrade xserver-xorg-core, and will fail. If I keep pressing "n"
for other solutions I end up with this:
*** No more solutions available ***
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
xorg
xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-input-all
xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-kbd
xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-input-wacom
xserver-xorg-video-all
xserver-xorg-video-apm
xserver-xorg-video-ark
xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-chips
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
xserver-xorg-video-dummy
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-glint
xserver-xorg-video-i128
xserver-xorg-video-i740
xserver-xorg-video-i810
xserver-xorg-video-imstt
xserver-xorg-video-intel
xserver-xorg-video-mga
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
xserver-xorg-video-newport
xserver-xorg-video-nsc
xserver-xorg-video-nv
xserver-xorg-video-rendition
xserver-xorg-video-s3
xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
xserver-xorg-video-sis
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
xserver-xorg-video-tga
xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-tseng
xserver-xorg-video-v4l
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-vga
xserver-xorg-video-via
xserver-xorg-video-vmware
xserver-xorg-video-voodoo
Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
gdm recommends xserver-xorg
Score is -12096
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
I chickened out at this stage.

I have run a SMART check in case this is a failing hard disc. An 

Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[John Hasler]

ndemou writes:
> rtf is NOT OPEN: we have a technical reference but we don't have a
> license to use it...

No one needs a license to use a format.
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Re: ssh connection without passwd

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:

abdelkader belahcene wrote:

Hi every one,

I am using DSL on small miniPC.

I tried the ssh-keygen it seemed running correctly, it generates the
key (pub and priv),


Use ssh-copy-id to copy your public key to the ssh server. This requires 
that password based connections are allowed to that server.

I think he knows that, but want to use ssh-agent to store the keypasswd.
Make sure you start up ssh-agent properly, just entering ssh-agent will 
*not* work. Did de googling for you, see eg.

http://mah.everybody.org/docs/ssh#run-ssh-agent

Sjoerd




but the ssh-add  gave  cannot open a connection to
 authentifcation agent   , I tried it after ssh-agent I got same 
error.



In fact I want an automatic (  from scrpit without passwd ) connection
to myserver using ssh. I don't know if ssh has an option to disable
the passwd or  to send it thru the command ???

thanks a lot
best regards
bela










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Re: ssh connection without passwd

[Anthony]

Hello,

if a understand, you want to connect to a host without password throught
ssh.
Use the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys

add the pub key of HostA in the authorized_keys of HostB.
You will be able to connect to HostB from HostA.

by

Anthony

abdelkader belahcene a écrit :

Hi every one,

I am using DSL on small miniPC.

I tried the ssh-keygen it seemed running correctly, it generates the
key (pub and priv),
but the ssh-add  gave  cannot open a connection to
 authentifcation agent   , I tried it after ssh-agent I got same error.


In fact I want an automatic (  from scrpit without passwd ) connection
to myserver using ssh. I don't know if ssh has an option to disable
the passwd or  to send it thru the command ???

thanks a lot
best regards
bela


  



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Re: ssh connection without passwd

[Anthony]

Example :

su - usera
ssh-keygen


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.ssh$ cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
ssh-rsa 
B3NzaC1yc2EBIwAAAQEAw7KhpWfG/RRZhaAZlUVK9iH07LnzeO1dgs1vmOX1vK1EZ+p/Pru6UZqSl0sOaBNOIffjG1F4IeRTVw+7CRdnPPcil4htRwFCjMQi11uJcCqfTjaHS5gcvqOOtUPoBlY6WM+35BRzPNdAhnwSWpxVmEfgtDI4Hi18XVU3V9IHTK645oNgHix4GMAQc8IlESmf2HWifAmJogT4qozKZwpA8lyCeOKTMAvTa3GyeqMWx5weuvuI5thMa+bTlIByUGPjqJvWISEiKXXaZt6ioFdXxXMgFC+Or5zzWG5yBouXJQCbKDwyuhsFuEOVu83ykHU+YIytA0/FXcBZjg6tiGgnVQ== 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



on hostb:

su - userb
vi ~/.ssh.authorized_keys
add the key:
ssh-rsa 
B3NzaC1yc2EBIwAAAQEAw7KhpWfG/RRZhaAZlUVK9iH07LnzeO1dgs1vmOX1vK1EZ+p/Pru6UZqSl0sOaBNOIffjG1F4IeRTVw+7CRdnPPcil4htRwFCjMQi11uJcCqfTjaHS5gcvqOOtUPoBlY6WM+35BRzPNdAhnwSWpxVmEfgtDI4Hi18XVU3V9IHTK645oNgHix4GMAQc8IlESmf2HWifAmJogT4qozKZwpA8lyCeOKTMAvTa3GyeqMWx5weuvuI5thMa+bTlIByUGPjqJvWISEiKXXaZt6ioFdXxXMgFC+Or5zzWG5yBouXJQCbKDwyuhsFuEOVu83ykHU+YIytA0/FXcBZjg6tiGgnVQ== 
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From HostB
ssh HOSTA



Raj Kiran Grandhi a écrit :

abdelkader belahcene wrote:

Hi every one,

I am using DSL on small miniPC.

I tried the ssh-keygen it seemed running correctly, it generates the
key (pub and priv),


Use ssh-copy-id to copy your public key to the ssh server. This 
requires that password based connections are allowed to that server.



but the ssh-add  gave  cannot open a connection to
 authentifcation agent   , I tried it after ssh-agent I got same 
error.



In fact I want an automatic (  from scrpit without passwd ) connection
to myserver using ssh. I don't know if ssh has an option to disable
the passwd or  to send it thru the command ???

thanks a lot
best regards
bela








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Re: ssh connection without passwd

[Raj Kiran Grandhi]

abdelkader belahcene wrote:

Hi every one,

I am using DSL on small miniPC.

I tried the ssh-keygen it seemed running correctly, it generates the
key (pub and priv),


Use ssh-copy-id to copy your public key to the ssh server. This requires 
that password based connections are allowed to that server.



but the ssh-add  gave  cannot open a connection to
 authentifcation agent   , I tried it after ssh-agent I got same error.


In fact I want an automatic (  from scrpit without passwd ) connection
to myserver using ssh. I don't know if ssh has an option to disable
the passwd or  to send it thru the command ???

thanks a lot
best regards
bela





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ssh connection without passwd

[abdelkader belahcene]

Hi every one,

I am using DSL on small miniPC.

I tried the ssh-keygen it seemed running correctly, it generates the
key (pub and priv),
but the ssh-add  gave  cannot open a connection to
 authentifcation agent   , I tried it after ssh-agent I got same error.


In fact I want an automatic (  from scrpit without passwd ) connection
to myserver using ssh. I don't know if ssh has an option to disable
the passwd or  to send it thru the command ???

thanks a lot
best regards
bela


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Re: HP Pavilion serrie DV6700

[Damon L. Chesser]

On Thursday 19 June 2008 09:11:12 am Tenant wrote:
> Although the poster doesn't say, the dv6700t is Intel and the dv6700z is
> AMD.
>
> However he does say it's a Core 2 Due, which of course is Intel. So
> I'm wondering then why would one install debian with the AMD version?

amd64 is the catch all for 64 bit debian.  It dates back to the days when amd 
had the only consumer 64 bit cpu.  If you want a 64 bit system, this is what 
you install for amd and intel consumer cpus.
>
> On a related issue, I'm looking at the dv9700t and wondering how does
> the T8300 chip stack up? Is it quick or lagging? I'm thinking about
> the next step up, the T9300, which has 6M L2 cache instead of 3M L2
> cache of the T8300.

Don't know this, I have been a amd guy.  I guess, short of a break through for 
amd, I will have to change now.
>
> The 17" has room for two hard drives. Has anyone set up dual booting
> on such a machine?

I have not, however, I have 4 hds in my desktop.  Nothing to it barring some 
strange bios settings (raid) that will not allow your machine to "see" two 
hds.  I will go out on a limb and say this is not the case.  Just pick your 
hd to install to, install grub on the MBR and away you go.

HTH

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Re: HP Pavilion serrie DV6700

[Tenant]

Although the poster doesn't say, the dv6700t is Intel and the dv6700z is AMD.

However he does say it's a Core 2 Due, which of course is Intel. So 
I'm wondering then why would one install debian with the AMD version?


On a related issue, I'm looking at the dv9700t and wondering how does 
the T8300 chip stack up? Is it quick or lagging? I'm thinking about 
the next step up, the T9300, which has 6M L2 cache instead of 3M L2 
cache of the T8300.


The 17" has room for two hard drives. Has anyone set up dual booting 
on such a machine?



At 09:03 AM 6/19/2008, you wrote:

Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:31:48 +0300
From: Volkan YAZICI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bartosz BOGUSZEWSKI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: HP Pavilion serrie DV6700
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

"Bartosz BOGUSZEWSKI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've just bought notebook HP Pavilion serrie DV6700 with Core 2 Duo
> T8300 (2.4GHz) and my question is which version of debian should I
> install?? Is Etch AMD64  this one ??

I'm writing this e-mail from a HP Pavilion dv6580et using emacs
installed from Debian GNU/Linux Etch (amd64) repositories. Bluetooth and
fingerprint thingy are the only stuff I couldn't/didn't manage to
install. The rest works ok. (You'll need latest alsa-driver packages
installed seperately; and an extra "alsa model=laptop" line in your
/etc/modules file. I compiled alsa-driver from scratch using source
tarballs.)



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Re: usb camera for skype & etc.

[Bob]

Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:

On 18/06/2008, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

 I used Skype video conferencing yesterday and the quality was nowhere near
as good as SIP, though in all fairness it is a bit easier to setup.



Yuck, Skype. I've been earnestly looking for free alternatives.
wengophone was good before it was abandoned and forked off upstream;
I'm still hopeful, but right now it crashes and is not usable. Which
SIP have you been using? Ekiga? Something else I'm not aware of?
  


Ekiga under Linux, x-lite under windows & MacOSX, I'm seriously looking 
forward to Ekiga 3 when the 2 should meet with video.



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Re: Debian (Stable Version)

[Star Liu]

the first time i install testing package to my stable OS is to install amsn,
it installed many new libs, and resulted in a segment fault error, from that
time on, i never install testing packages to my stable OS, instead I add a
testing OS to my another PC :)

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Tony R Quilkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Daniel Ngu wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've always been a Debian stable user, using Gnome as my desktop manager,
>> currently using Etch and have always wondered about the following:
>>
>> Sometimes there are software that I want to use but they are not yet in
>> the
>> Debian stable repositories.
>>
>> I can compile them from source into .deb package and install it that way.
>>
>> However, most often the libraries needed to compile the software will be
>> newer
>> than that in the repositories.
>>
>> In which case there are two options really:
>>
>> I can try and compile those libraries and use them parallel to  stable
>> version
>> for those software that I wanted to use in the first place (which could
>> potentially be a lot of work since who knows in the worst case scenario I
>> might
>> need to compile a newer version of the compiler or even system dependant
>> libraries like gnome libraries), basically the list goes on due to
>> dependencies.
>> Or alternatively scrap stable version completely and use the testing
>> version of
>> Debian instead.
>>
>> Any suggestions of what have been your solution in the above scenario?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>  You can mix Debian releases by using a feature of apt called pinning.
> There is an article on the wiki http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning that
> might be of interest.
>
> Tony
>
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Re: selecting desktop when installing

[Jamie Griffin]

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 09:49:32PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Wed June 18 2008, Jamie Griffin wrote:
> > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-
> >i386-kde-CD-1.iso
> >
> > I didn't have any problem installing it's just the desktop is gnome not
> > kde. The same happened when i selected the iso below it in from the same
> > mirror which is the xfce desktop.
> 
> when you are at the login screen, there are 2 options on the screen ( lower 
> left?) one I think is session type. If you select that, is KDE an option??

Hi Paul

thanks for replying! i did check that already but no, it's not showing
there either. 

surely it must be an option i select or something else i need to do
during the installation?

Jamie


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Re: HP Pavilion serrie DV6700

[Volkan YAZICI]

"Bartosz BOGUSZEWSKI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've just bought notebook HP Pavilion serrie DV6700 with Core 2 Duo
> T8300 (2.4GHz) and my question is which version of debian should I
> install?? Is Etch AMD64  this one ??

I'm writing this e-mail from a HP Pavilion dv6580et using emacs
installed from Debian GNU/Linux Etch (amd64) repositories. Bluetooth and
fingerprint thingy are the only stuff I couldn't/didn't manage to
install. The rest works ok. (You'll need latest alsa-driver packages
installed seperately; and an extra "alsa model=laptop" line in your
/etc/modules file. I compiled alsa-driver from scratch using source
tarballs.)


Regards.


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HP Pavilion serrie DV6700

[Bartosz BOGUSZEWSKI]

hi,

I've just bought notebook HP Pavilion serrie DV6700 with Core 2 Duo
T8300 (2.4GHz) and my question is which version of debian should I
install?? Is Etch AMD64  this one ??


thanks in advance

Bartek


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Postfix and smtp auth

[Magnus Therning]

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To send email at work I have to go through an exchange server.  It
requires authentication to send emails externally, but doesn't require
it when sending internally.  My current configuration for postfix
doesn't enforce successful authentication it seems, so if I change my
system (ActiveDirectory) password and forget to update my password map
for postfix then the result is that internal emails are sent fine and
external emails result in a mail-undeliverable message.  It would be
better if postfix would hold on to the emails if authentication fails.
 Is it possible to configure postfix in that way?

The relevant part of my current config is:

smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl/passwd
smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous

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Hooks for read-only /usr

[James Youngman]

I like to have a read-only /usr filesystem.   So I have ...

# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50readonly-usr
DPkg
{
   // Auto re-mounting of a readonly /usr
   Pre-Invoke {"mount -o remount,rw /usr";};
   Post-Invoke {"mount -o remount,ro /usr || true";};
}


Unfortunately this works quite badly.   During execution of apt,
services are stopped and started again, so it is frequently the case
that by the time apt runs the Post-invoke hook, processes are holding
open files in /usr.   This prevents /usr being re-mounted (that's the
reason for the "|| true").  Is there a better way to do this?

One idea that occurred to me was to have dpkg do this; it could
remount /usr read-write before removing the old files and unpacking
the new, and mount it read-only after perhaps the package
configuration stage (before restarting things).

Anyway, is something like this already possible?

Thanks,
James.


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Re: cut and paste with the screen program

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 05:34:17PM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using screen. (So I can have many terminals in one text-console).
> How can I cut and paste between screen terminals? (using the keyboard) I'm 
> totally blind and use braille and a little bit of speech.
> 
> Cheers, (And thanks for any help)

ctrl-a ]

Screen shows two help screens when you press ctrl-a ?

  Command key:  ^A   Literal ^A:  a

  break   ^B b license ,removebuf   =
  clear   Clockscreen  ^X x reset   Z
  colon   :log Hscreen  ^C c
  copy^[ [ login   Lselect  '
  detach  ^D d metaasilence _
  digraph ^V   monitor Msplit   S
  displays*next^@ ^N sp n   suspend ^Z z
  dumptermcap .number  Ntime^T t
  fit FonlyQtitle   A
  flow^F f other   ^A   vbell   ^G
  focus   ^I   pow_break   Bversion v
  hardcopyhpow_detach  Dwidth   W
  help?prev^H ^P p ^?   windows ^W w
  history { }  quit\wrap^R r
  infoireadbuf 
  killK k  redisplay   ^L l xoff^S s
  lastmsg ^M m remove  Xxon ^Q q

^]  paste .
"   windowlist -b
-   select -
0   select 0
1   select 1
2   select 2
3   select 3
4   select 4
5   select 5
6   select 6
7   select 7
8   select 8
9   select 9
I   login on
O   login off
]   paste .

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Re: windows prog on linux

[Paul Johnson]

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 08:01 +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> I have a program written for XP, I want to run it on my linux debian,
> I tried wine, I didn't do want, is ther another emulator or another
> procedure;

Have you tried debugging it in wine at all?  Wine is really your best
shot short of installing Windows in a Virtualbox (debian package
virtualbox-ose).

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Re: windows prog on linux

[Johann Spies]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:01:37AM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote:

> I have a program written for XP, I want to run it on my linux debian,
> I tried wine, I didn't do want, is ther another emulator or another
> procedure;
> 

If you have a legal copy of XP you can install it inside virtualbox
(install virtualbox-ose) and run XP inside your Debian and then close
it if you are not using it.

sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose

You can then use module-assistand (m-a) to build and install your
virtualbox-ose-modules.

Regards
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cut and paste with the screen program

[Daniel Dalton]

Hi,

I'm using screen. (So I can have many terminals in one text-console).
How can I cut and paste between screen terminals? (using the keyboard) I'm 
totally blind and use braille and a little bit of speech.


Cheers, (And thanks for any help)

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Re: A symlink that stays

[Sven Joachim]

On 2008-06-19 08:57 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 06/19/08 01:34, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> Because it would be wrong.  When the library ABI changes, a new
>> libsslx.y.z has to be created _in addition_ to the current libssl0.9.8.
>> And the symlink should then point to the newer version.
>
> But wouldn't it be the responsibility of package libssl0.9.newer to
> make that change?

The source package building libssl-dev is and will be openssl; if the
bumps ABI, maybe a package openssl098 containing the older version of
the library will be created.  But the libssl.so symlink should always
point to the newest version.

You can see that this happened in the past, just look at the packages
[0],[1] in etch.

Sven

[0] http://packages.debian.org/source/etch/openssl097
[1] http://packages.debian.org/source/etch/openssl


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Re: correct "Debian" way to log iptables to seperate file

[Alex Samad]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:16:15AM -0500, JW wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Iptables is annoying me by:
> 
> 1) printing logs to the console
> 
> 2) filling my /var/log/messages up with the same logs, which then get picked 
> up and uselessly emailed to me by logcheck and logwatch.
> 
> Of course all the logging is controlled by syslog, not iptables.
> 
> What I really want is for those logs (which are not worthy of 
> their "kernel.warning" status) to go to their own file.
> 
> Google searching has turned up dozens of possible options, all of which seem 
> like rather untidy hacks.
> 
> What's the "right" way to do it?

iptables LOG messages come from kernel: if you want to keep using
syslogd, then you need to change all your LOG rules to ULOG (install
ulogd) which gives you more options files, syslog, DB etc

> 
>   JW
> 
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windows prog on linux

[abdelkader belahcene]

Hi,
I have a program written for XP, I want to run it on my linux debian,
I tried wine, I didn't do want, is ther another emulator or another
procedure;

In fact I want to display the graphic not on my local machine but on
remote Light PC (mini PC), I coudn't install a complete debian distro,
I used DSL, which hasn't for example vnc.

So I tried  myprog --display=address:0.0, address of my remote
machine, it didn't work,.

vnccreates a display  to receive the graphic, you just need to
prcecise the display for example   :1  to use after that  :emyprog
- - display=:1

thanks  for help
best regards
bela


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Re: correct "Debian" way to log iptables to seperate file

[martin f krafft]

also sprach JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.06.19.0716 +0200]:
> Iptables is annoying me by:
> 
> 1) printing logs to the console
> 
> 2) filling my /var/log/messages up with the same logs, which then
> get picked up and uselessly emailed to me by logcheck and
> logwatch.

So remove the rules that jump to the LOG chain.

I assume you're using some sort of "firewall" tool which generates
those. You ought to look there for the problem and then hit the
maintainer with the cluebat.

> What I really want is for those logs (which are not worthy of 
> their "kernel.warning" status) to go to their own file.

Check out syslog-ng, which can do filtering based on line
content/regexps.

PS: nothing Debian-specific in this at all...

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