Re: Q: List Policy

[Steve Lamb]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> But since most users (and probably developers) of Tbird are on Windows,
> they just don't have the same ethos as old-time midrange admins, and so
> I'm just thanking $DEITY that the plugin system exists.

Even then there is a huge barrier to entry.  I would love to write a
plugin for TBird which implements buttons from PMMail/2 (circa 1995).
Delete-and-Next, Delete-and-Previous, Delete-And close.  Then the same choices
for move and copy.  They made reading messages in a separate window sane and
haven't been seen since.

I've tried but TBird's plugin architecture isn't documented as a sole
entity.  There is no document, that I am aware of, that describes how to write
a TBird plugin which doesn't start with "To set up your Firefox development
environment..."

Pisses me off to no end.

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Re: Q: List Policy

[Steve Lamb]

s. keeling wrote:
> Are we still waiting for killfiles in Mozilla (et al)'s nntp clients,
> or did they finally get around to that?

Heck if I know.  I never used killfiles.  Slrn + scoring was all I needed.
 Yeah, yeah, - is killing but it isn't confined to a single killfile.  :D

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Re: Q: List Policy

[Steve Lamb]

François Cerbelle wrote:
> Yes, there is some text... But it is acceptable because it did not alter
> neither what I wrote, nor the meaning of what I wrote.

It alters the contents of your message which is exactly what the post I
was replying to said should not happen.  Now you're providing exceptions to
that blanket rule.  Of course my point is that altering the content is
acceptable under certain situations and some people find altering reply-to in
certain situations acceptable whereas you do not.  That, of course, does not
make your view any more valid than theirs nor your blanket statement at all 
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Re: [OT] less spam

[Ron Johnson]

On 11/18/08 23:02, Clifford W. Hansen wrote:
[snip]


If only they could use all that energy and time for doing good instead, 
imagine how much better Debian/Linux would be if that energy was spent on bug 
fixes instead of sending spam...


If only all the bad people would start doing good, what a wonderful 
world this would be...


But you know that isn't going to happen.

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Re: Here's something interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)

[Ron Johnson]

On 11/18/08 21:03, s. keeling wrote:

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

[snip]
 Also, it might (or might not...) be a Tbird bug that it doesn't show 
 the UNSUBSCRIBE signature.


Tbird.  I see the list sig also.


Silly man!!!  Mozila apps have no bugs!!!

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Re: Unable to mount cdrom in Lenny

[Ron Johnson]

On 11/18/08 23:02, Frank Miles wrote:

Why can't I mount cdrom?

Running Lenny with custom 2.6.26 kernel.  I don't often read CDROMs, so 
I don't
know when this failed (yes, it used to work).  Putting a CD into the 
drive no longer
causes udev to provide a /dev/hda device.  Kernel modules loaded (lsmod) 
include:

  ide_cd_mod
  cdrom
  sr_mod
Looks good to me.  Also /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules has:

# BENQ_DVD_DD_DW1620 (pci-:00:06.0-ide-0:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:06.0-ide-0:0", 
SYMLINK+="cdrom", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:06.0-ide-0:0", 
SYMLINK+="cdrw", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:06.0-ide-0:0", 
SYMLINK+="dvd", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:06.0-ide-0:0", 
SYMLINK+="dvdrw", ENV{GENERATED}="1"


which seems reasonable, given the info.  In /var/log/dmesg:

NFORCE-CK804: :00:06.0 (rev f2) UDMA133 controller
NFORCE-CK804: IDE controller (0x10de:0x0053 rev 0xf2) at  PCI slot 
:00:06.0

NFORCE-CK804: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
NFORCE-CK804: IDE port disabled
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe000-0xe007
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: BENQ DVD DD DW1620, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hda: host max PIO5 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
hda: UDMA/33 mode selected
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide-scsi is deprecated for cd burning! Use ide-cd and give dev=/dev/hdX 
as device


Is the "IDE port disabled" significant?  Even though a few lines later 
hda and ide0 seem
to be set up properly?  I haven't found anything missing from the kernel 
configuration.
Unfortunately, this is on a server system that I'd rather not put 
through a lot of reboot cycles.


Any ideas would be appreciated!


Does /dev/scd* exist?

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Re: Getting a unique ID for a system?

[Ron Johnson]

On 11/18/08 20:14, John Hasler wrote:

s. keeling writes:

What is the Debian package that offers hostid info pages?


Most likely it's in a non-free GFDL document.


Doesn't look like it...

$ apt-cache search coreutils|grep coreutils
coreutils - The GNU core utilities
policycoreutils - SELinux core policy utilities

$ dpkg -L coreutils | grep info
/usr/share/doc/coreutils/buildinfo.gz
/usr/share/info
/usr/share/info/coreutils.info.gz

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Re: 32bit vs 64bit EXT3

[Adrian Levi]

2008/11/19 Stackpole, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> The system started life out as a 32bit etch install. Then later I did an 
> upgrade to Lenny (~5 months ago) and it has been running smooth since.
>
> Since the drives were all formated as ext3 with a 32bit Etch install, should 
> I expect any problems with the ext3 file system when I install a 64bit Lenny?

As far as I understand it filesystems aren't tied to a specific
processor type or architecture. You should be safe with whatever
choice you make.

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Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?

[ajm]

> On 11/13/08 06:18, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to
> add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used
> (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and
> there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories:
>
> audio editor: audacity, sweep
>
> audio player: moc, audacious, ascd
>
> audio internet streams:  Streamtuner
>
> cd-ripper: mp3c
>
> desktop OR window manager: fluxbox
>
> DBMS: none
>
> development: Perl
>
> disc burner: gnome baker, mp3burn
>
> e-mail client: mutt, procmail, msmtp, getmail
>
> file manager: mc (midnight commander)
>
> finance: none
>
> ftp client: none
>
> games: none
>
> graphics general: Inkscape, Tgif, Xfig
>
> image editor: gimp
>
> image viewer: gqview
>
> instant messenger: none
>
> mathematics: none
>
> misc utilities: too many to list
>
> p2p: none
>
> package manager: aptitude
>
> pdf-reader: xpdf, evince
>
> ps reader: gv
>
> spreadsheet: none
>
> tag editor: none
>
> terminal emulator: Rxvt-unicode
>
> text editor: emacs, aee
>
> video player: mplayer, vlc
>
> web browser: Epiphany, Iceweasel, links2
>
> word-processor: AbiWord, OpenOffice Writer
>
> document processor: Lyx
>
> non-free: flash player.
>

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NTFS: 3g won't shut up on chmod/chown errors

[Dexter Filmore]

I use these options to mount an NTFS partition:

users,gid=fuse,umask=0002,silent,utf8,locale=de_DE.utf8

Now "silent" is supposed to suppress warnings on chmod/chown errors, each time 
a copy operation is completed I get "couldn't change permissions on XY"
I need to copy a pretty big range of files to that disk soon and really can't 
take konqueror throwing an error dialog at me for each and every operation.

In another well known debian spinoff this works alright so what do I have 
here? Bug in ntfs-3g?

Dex


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Unable to mount cdrom in Lenny

[Frank Miles]

Why can't I mount cdrom?

Running Lenny with custom 2.6.26 kernel.  I don't often read CDROMs, so I don't
know when this failed (yes, it used to work).  Putting a CD into the drive no 
longer
causes udev to provide a /dev/hda device.  Kernel modules loaded (lsmod) 
include:
  ide_cd_mod
  cdrom
  sr_mod
Looks good to me.  Also /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules has:

# BENQ_DVD_DD_DW1620 (pci-:00:06.0-ide-0:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:06.0-ide-0:0", SYMLINK+="cdrom", 
ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:06.0-ide-0:0", SYMLINK+="cdrw", 
ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:06.0-ide-0:0", SYMLINK+="dvd", 
ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:06.0-ide-0:0", SYMLINK+="dvdrw", 
ENV{GENERATED}="1"

which seems reasonable, given the info.  In /var/log/dmesg:

NFORCE-CK804: :00:06.0 (rev f2) UDMA133 controller
NFORCE-CK804: IDE controller (0x10de:0x0053 rev 0xf2) at  PCI slot :00:06.0
NFORCE-CK804: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
NFORCE-CK804: IDE port disabled
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe000-0xe007
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: BENQ DVD DD DW1620, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hda: host max PIO5 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
hda: UDMA/33 mode selected
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide-scsi is deprecated for cd burning! Use ide-cd and give dev=/dev/hdX as 
device

Is the "IDE port disabled" significant?  Even though a few lines later hda and 
ide0 seem
to be set up properly?  I haven't found anything missing from the kernel 
configuration.
Unfortunately, this is on a server system that I'd rather not put through a lot 
of reboot cycles.

Any ideas would be appreciated!

   -f


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Re: Here's something interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 18 November 2008, "S.D.Allen" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: Here's something 
interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)':
>On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:53:47 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. in 
>gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: 
>> On Tuesday 18 November 2008, "S.D.Allen"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: Here's
>> something interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)':
>>>On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:38:36 -0600, Ron Johnson in
>>> gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
 The only issue I see with it is that each line ends with a "=3D20"
 and that text MUAs might not filter that part out.
>>>
>>>Yes I agree. It doesn't here on slrn. It would be nice if the quoted
>>>printable could be turned off for this list. Boyd ... 8)
>>
>> Um, no.  Quoted-printable and UUENCODE are the only standard way to
>> include
>> 8-bit characters in email and UUENCODE isn't MIME-compliant.
>>
>> I'm not fine with
>> not being able to send non-ASCII characters to the list.
>
>Just curious why not UTF-8 as a charset then ?

You'd still need quoted-printable for all the bytes with the 8th bit set 
that are part of UTF-8 encoded characters.  Quoted-printable gets around 
the need for 7-bit cleanness (required by relevant e-mail standards) -- no 
bytes in the range 128-255. UTF-8 actually ascribes *meaning* to sequences 
of bytes in that range, mapping the to Unicode code points 128 and above.

I do have my client use UTF-8 as needed.

Also, quoted-printable also allows whitespace to end a line, which is 
required for the text/plain MIME type option format=flowed.
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Re: [OT] less spam

[Lachlan]

2008/11/19 Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:02:11 +0200
> "Clifford W. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> If only they could use all that energy and time for doing good instead,
>> imagine how much better Debian/Linux would be if that energy was spent on bug
>> fixes instead of sending spam...
>
> Can't argue with that.

the only issue i can see is when new packages start coming in called
v1agr4 and ch34p-medz

>> Clifford W. Hansen
>
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Re: [OT] less spam

[Celejar]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:02:11 +0200
"Clifford W. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

...

> If only they could use all that energy and time for doing good instead, 
> imagine how much better Debian/Linux would be if that energy was spent on bug 
> fixes instead of sending spam...

Can't argue with that.

> Clifford W. Hansen

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Re: [OT] less spam

[Clifford W. Hansen]

On Wednesday 19 November 2008 06:27:08 Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:06:36 -0500
>
> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > After the shutdown of that server I get less spam.
> > > Others have noted that too:
> >
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/18/AR2008111
> >801120.html?hpid=topnews
> >
> > > Hugo
> >
> > yep. A more graphical version of the result can be seen at
> > http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?autocom=custom&page=stats (look
> > at the monthly averages). With projects like castlecops' SIRT/PIRT/MIRT,
> > knujon, complainterator etc., spammers are having a very hard time this
> > year! Good for us!
>
> Not to worry; the spamming botnet is coming back online:
>
> McColo, a network provider that was yanked offline following reports it
> enabled more than half the world's spam, briefly returned from the dead
> over the weekend so it could hand-off command and control channels to a
> new source, security researchers said.
>
> The rogue network provider regained connectivity for about 12 hours on
> Saturday by making use of a backup arrangement it had with Swedish
> internet service provider TeliaSonera. During that time, McColo was
> observed pushing as much as 15MB of data per second to servers located
> in Russia, according to Paul Ferguson, a security researcher for
> anti-virus software maker Trend Micro.
>
> The brief resurrection allowed miscreants who rely on McColo to update
> a portion of the massive botnets they use to push spam and malware.
> Researchers from FireEye saw PCs infected by the Rustock botnet being
> updated so they'd report to a new server located at
> abilena.podolsk-mo.ru for instructions. That means the sharp drop in
> spam levels reported immediately after McColo's demise isn't likely to
> last.>
>
> >From http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/18/short_mccolo_resurrection/
>
> (hat tip: http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/11/18/219204.shtml).
>
> > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
>
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If only they could use all that energy and time for doing good instead, 
imagine how much better Debian/Linux would be if that energy was spent on bug 
fixes instead of sending spam...

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Re: [OT] less spam

[Celejar]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:06:36 -0500
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > After the shutdown of that server I get less spam.
> > Others have noted that too:
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/18/AR2008111801120.html?hpid=topnews
> > 
> > Hugo
> 
> yep. A more graphical version of the result can be seen at
> http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?autocom=custom&page=stats (look
> at the monthly averages). With projects like castlecops' SIRT/PIRT/MIRT,
> knujon, complainterator etc., spammers are having a very hard time this
> year! Good for us!

Not to worry; the spamming botnet is coming back online:

McColo, a network provider that was yanked offline following reports it
enabled more than half the world's spam, briefly returned from the dead
over the weekend so it could hand-off command and control channels to a
new source, security researchers said.

The rogue network provider regained connectivity for about 12 hours on
Saturday by making use of a backup arrangement it had with Swedish
internet service provider TeliaSonera. During that time, McColo was
observed pushing as much as 15MB of data per second to servers located
in Russia, according to Paul Ferguson, a security researcher for
anti-virus software maker Trend Micro.

The brief resurrection allowed miscreants who rely on McColo to update
a portion of the massive botnets they use to push spam and malware.
Researchers from FireEye saw PCs infected by the Rustock botnet being
updated so they'd report to a new server located at
abilena.podolsk-mo.ru for instructions. That means the sharp drop in
spam levels reported immediately after McColo's demise isn't likely to
last.> 

>From http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/18/short_mccolo_resurrection/
(hat tip: http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/11/18/219204.shtml).

> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi

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OT NOW-Tonight- Join VOIP BALUG conference online, OpenMoko Neo Phone topic

[john_re]

You might want to listen in live to the BALUG.org meeting for the next
hour or so.

We are working now on the first ever VOIP conference for a BALUG
meeting.

You can listen in two ways:
1) using a VOIP phone like Ekiga from your computer over the internet,
2) by dialing into the voip server with a regular phone
   there is no cost for the server.  
   If you have free calling to 605 area code you can connect for free
   also.

Join us on IRC freenode.net #BALUG for the full details.

The speaker will likely talk for about 1 hour, beginning about 8PM or
815PM.

This is a "first time, best efforts, experimetal basis, #1 learn
something, #2 maybe it will work" basis effort.

Hope you can join us in this next hour or so.

I hope this isn't too OT for this list.  Just thought someone here might
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Re: Here's something interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)

[S.D.Allen]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:53:47 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. in 
gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
> --nextPart1772980.aT8pGrQ5Ap
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Disposition: inline
>
> On Tuesday 18 November 2008, "S.D.Allen"=20
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: Here's something=20
> interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)':
>>On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:38:36 -0600, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user=
>=20
> wrote:
>>> The only issue I see with it is that each line ends with a "=3D20" and
>>> that text MUAs might not filter that part out.
>>
>>Yes I agree. It doesn't here on slrn. It would be nice if the quoted
>>printable could be turned off for this list. Boyd ... 8)
>
> Um, no.  Quoted-printable and UUENCODE are the only standard way to include=
>=20
> 8-bit characters in email and UUENCODE isn't MIME-compliant.
>
> I'm fine switching my messages to text/plain vs. multipart/signed by not=20
> signing them or using an inline signature.  I'm not fine with not being=20
> able to send non-ASCII characters to the list.

Just curious why not UTF-8 as a charset then ?


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Re: [OT] less spam

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> After the shutdown of that server I get less spam.
> Others have noted that too:
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/18/AR2008111801120.html?hpid=topnews
> 
> Hugo

yep. A more graphical version of the result can be seen at
http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?autocom=custom&page=stats (look
at the monthly averages). With projects like castlecops' SIRT/PIRT/MIRT,
knujon, complainterator etc., spammers are having a very hard time this
year! Good for us!

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Re: Q: List Policy (ot)

[s. keeling]

Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:27:47AM +0100, s. keeling wrote:
> > Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >  On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:30:04AM -0600, Mark Allums wrote:
> 
>  [snip]
> 
> > I'm not subscribed, and haven't been for years.  I read the list in
> > the nntp "mail to news gateway" (cf. Usenet).  Don't assume people are
> > only going to do it in the ways you know of.  There may be/likely are
> > many other ways.
> 
>  Sounds like an interesting way to look at a mailing list, might have to
>  give it a go, any con's or gotcha's

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Re: Looking for SIMPLE MTA

[Hal Vaughan]

On Tuesday 18 November 2008, s. keeling wrote:
> Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >  Seriously, the reason I've been thinking about keeping the mail on
> > the sending system is to make reference easier -- in case the mail
> > server goes wrong  or something.  In the past it seems like things
> > go wrong in bunches, so I've started to plan for multiple failures
> > when I'm setting things up.  If the messages stay on the
> > originating system until KMail picks them up, then there's no
> > chance of them getting lost on a 3rd system.
>
> I would think it more important to get them off those other machines
> and onto the mail server so they can be backed up now.  There's what,
> fifve harddrives on those machines which may fail at any time.  The
> server's only got one drive for you to worry about, and presumably it
> gets far better care than the satellite systems.

I think you're thinking of the 4 drive RAID you've heard me mention 
either here or in another list.  The system I'm working with now does 
have a RAID, but /var is on a single drive which, at this point, is 
almost brand new.  And since this is on my *business* system (called 
Scarecrow, since it's the brains of the outfit), as in the 'puter that 
generates the data that I sell to pay the rent, it is the box that gets 
1st priority on hardware.

If I had some serious problem, I could install dnsmasq and a couple 
other programs on Scarecrow and run it on its own but the mail/dns/print 
server is on an embedded Soekris box with a smaller hard drive and could 
never handle the workload Scarecrow does.

> > > >> If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!!
> > > >
> > > > You mean there are people who agree with you?!?
> > >
> > > Only those who are right-minded...
> >
> >  You misspelled Reich.
>
> Don't ask him about Paris Hilton.

I don't even bother with (media) sluts.

Hal

Re: Here's something interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)

[s. keeling]

Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:43:49AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 11/18/08 03:35, Ken Irving wrote:
> > [snip]
> >> also for some MIME forms if the last one is visible.  The list software 
> >> does not change, mung, or otherwise mess with message bodies other than
> >
> > Well it should!
> 
>  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345283
> 
>  It looks to me like the issue was dropped because the list admins were
>  satisfied that the debian lists follow RFC 2369 and put the unsubscribe
>  url in the headers.  A procmail recipe was offered to grab the multipart
>  boundary string from the headers and use it to terminate the last MIME

Drat, that leaves out those reading via mail to news gateway
linux.debian.user.  Drat.


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Re: Here's something interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)

[s. keeling]

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On 11/18/08 01:19, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On Monday 17 November 2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
> > about 'Here's something interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)':
> >> Your email, though text, is really a quoted-printable attachment.
> >> Tbird displays it as text, but eliminates the pgp-signature and the
> >> list-supplied signature.

And (sorry) looks ugly in slrn.

> > Yes, that's the S/MIME standard for signed email.  Well, the extra 
> > signature at the bottom isn't, but that's not part of the message I send 
> > the mailing list.
> > 
> > AFAIK, there's no List Policy against 7-bit clean mail (which requires 
> > either UUENCODE or quoted-printable [or bans all non-ASCI characters]) or 
> > cryptographic signatures of a reasonable (and fixed no less!) length.
> 
>  The only issue I see with it is that each line ends with a "=20" and 
>  that text MUAs might not filter that part out.

I see that also (slrn).

>  Also, it might (or might not...) be a Tbird bug that it doesn't show 
>  the UNSUBSCRIBE signature.

Tbird.  I see the list sig also.


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Re: Here's something interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)

[s. keeling]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  I'm fine switching my messages to text/plain vs. multipart/signed by not=20
>  signing them or using an inline signature.  I'm not fine with not being=20
>  able to send non-ASCII characters to the list.

What?  Why?  It's an email mailing list.  Yeah, yeah, utf-8 and all
that, but software should translate that for us, yes?  The list is
"text"?  Or do I misunderstand?


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Re: dynamic resolv.conf issues

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On Tue, 2008.11.18, 323, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> On Lenny, I am not running that tool.  What is overwriting my
> resolv.conf and how do I keep the correct data while using static IP?

Is the 'resolvconf' package installed?  If so, the resolvconf(8) man page 
outlines how to include nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces.


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Re: Getting a unique ID for a system?

[s. keeling]

Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  Tom Allison wrote:
> > Richard Hartmann wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 19:04, Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  hostid - contained in the coreutils package.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, this id is either read from /etc/hostid or
> >> calculated from the IPv4 address which a gethostbyhostname_r(3)
> >> on the system's hostname returns.  This means the id is not
> >> persistant.
> > 
> > I've absolutely no idea what you are trying to do here or why.
> > I'm a little curious about that.
> > 
> > But if you are trying to find a unique id that isn't tied to
> > hardware or pretty much anything else then why not just make one
> > up.
> > 
> > Here:  I wrote this in the middle of this email:
> > 
> > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > 
> > use strict;
> > use warnings;
> > use Time::HiRes qw[gettimeofday];
> > use Digest::MD5 qw[md5_hex];
> > 
> > my $t = [gettimeofday];
> > my $h = md5_hex($t, rand());
> > 
> > print "$h,\n";
> 
>  But take out the comma...

Critics.  
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Re: GnomeSword2 Bible Program

[green]

On Tue, 2008.11.18, 323, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> If you installed gnomesord with apt-get, it should have put the KJV in  
> English in.

The KJV package is 'sword-text-kjv'.

You may want to:
- Close GnomeSword
- Install the sword-text-kjv package
- Check for and purge other sword-text-* packages that you don't want
- Delete the ~/.sword folder (hidden, in your home directory)
   This will remove all sword modules that you have installed using 
   the GnomeSword module manager.

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Re: Getting a unique ID for a system?

[s. keeling]

Richard Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 19:42, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I was agreeing with you...
> 
>  Oups. Misread you there, sorry.

Understanding Ron's posts is an art.  It's worth figuring it out,
but it can take years.

Shut up, Ron.  I was agreeing with you.  :-)


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Re: Getting a unique ID for a system?

[John Hasler]

s. keeling writes:
> What is the Debian package that offers hostid info pages?

Most likely it's in a non-free GFDL document.
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dynamic resolv.conf issues

[Damon L. Chesser]

First saw this on a test install of ubuntu 8.10.  resolv.conf would not
keep nameserver x.x.x.x data.  Fixed that by nuking Ubuntu and installed
Debian testing.

A few days ago, I started seeing the same behavior when I reboot:  no
namserver data in the dynamically generated resolv.conf.  I can fix this
by using the gnome-network-manager or echo 'nameserver x.x.x.x'
>/etc/resolv.conf

In the case of ubuntu this was caused by a buggy
nm-configuration-manager IIRC.  Once you left DHCP you could not effect
any changes via the gui tool (permission denied to write).

On Lenny, I am not running that tool.  What is overwriting my
resolv.conf and how do I keep the correct data while using static IP?


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Re: sarge, aptitude, archives

[s. keeling]

jeremy bentham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  Please, no {advice, orders} to upgrade to etch.  Consider this a
>  question about aptitude/sources.list/archives.

Fine.  Why would you expect Sarge to work anymore?  Just curious.


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Re: octal dump

[Ron Johnson]

On 11/18/08 18:44, mike wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 11/18/08 05:50, mike wrote:

Girish Kulkarni wrote:

Hello,

I was trying to understand octal dumps today that can be obtained
using od.  But two questions cropped up:

1. When would an octal dump be useful?  Surely not in perusing text
   files?!  And when people say they use octal (or hex) dump to check
   and edit binary files, how do they learn to do so?

2. I understand that od shows the file offsets in decimal if I say 'od
   -Ad'.  But I find that the offset of the last line does not match
   with the size of the file given by 'du -h'.  Why is that?

I really am puzzled after bumping into this command by chance.  Any
comments would help.

  
In my work I collect a lot of data from the serial port, spit out by 
other machines.  od is VERY useful when I collect data from a new 
machine.  Are there carriage returns? Are there other strange 
characters? After those questions are answered it's much easier 
to parse the data and do stuff with it.


But do you do a pure od, or an "od -tx"?

I use od -c which puts ASCII chars and backslashes the rest.  makes it 
easier to spot the funny chars.


IOW, you're not using od to dump octal...

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Re: Getting a unique ID for a system?

[s. keeling]

Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Mon Nov 17, 2008 at 18:58:15 +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> 
> > I am wondering if there is any sane way to get a unique ID for a system.
> > That means both hardware- and Xen-based.
> 
> > Of course, I could try to mangle all this into an ID, but that process
> > is error-prone. Maybe there is any tool which can achieve this?
> 
>hostid - contained in the coreutils package.

Corollary, it recommends that hostid is best documented in info.  What
is the Debian package that offers hostid info pages?  I ought to know
this by now but this sort of thing has been bugging me for a while.

Thanks.


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Re: octal dump

[mike]

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 11/18/08 05:50, mike wrote:

Girish Kulkarni wrote:

Hello,

I was trying to understand octal dumps today that can be obtained
using od.  But two questions cropped up:

1. When would an octal dump be useful?  Surely not in perusing text
   files?!  And when people say they use octal (or hex) dump to check
   and edit binary files, how do they learn to do so?

2. I understand that od shows the file offsets in decimal if I say 'od
   -Ad'.  But I find that the offset of the last line does not match
   with the size of the file given by 'du -h'.  Why is that?

I really am puzzled after bumping into this command by chance.  Any
comments would help.

Thanks,
Girish.

  
In my work I collect a lot of data from the serial port, spit out by 
other machines.  od is VERY useful when I collect data from a new 
machine.  Are there carriage returns? Are there other strange 
characters? After those questions are answered it's much easier 
to parse the data and do stuff with it.


But do you do a pure od, or an "od -tx"?

I use od -c which puts ASCII chars and backslashes the rest.  makes it 
easier to spot the funny chars.



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Re: [OT] Re: Looking for SIMPLE MTA

[Ron Johnson]

On 11/18/08 17:45, s. keeling wrote:

Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

 On Sunday 16 November 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:

If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!!

 You mean there are people who agree with you?!?


Well, I agree with him that you ought to turn off HTML for mail to the
list.

People used to get flayed alive for having a couple or three extra
lines in their .sigs, yet we put up with html multipart mails.  :-P


People can get accustomed to a *lot* of things that would have 
horrified them only months ago.


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Re: How to send tunes to MP3 player?

[Dennis Wicks]

Michael Pobega wrote the following on 11/16/2008 05:28 PM:

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 05:08:42PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:

Michael Pobega wrote the following on 11/16/2008 03:36 PM:

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 03:29:23PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:

Greetings;

Is there a program on Debian/lenny that will send/write tunes onto an 
MP3 player? It is one of those little ones that you plug into a USB 
port. On windows we use Win. Media Player but haven't found anything 
shat seems to work on Debian yet.


TIA!
Dennis


We're going to need more information before we can help you -- Does the
mp3 player have a brand name? Is it a mount'n'drop? Or does it need some
sort of proprietary tool like iTunes?


Michael, et al,

The device is a Sandisk model Sansa Clip. On Windows it works with 
Windows Media Player with no special software or tools so I would guess 
that there should be something similar in linux that it would work with.


TNX,
Dennsi




Have you tried just simply mounting the device and looking through the
filesystem? There is most likely a directory named music with mp3s in
them.

Yes. There isn't. There are a few directories, but nothing 
shows in them that are MP3s. I know there are songs on the 
device so I don't want to try and risk the chance of wiping 
out what is there.


Music Player comes up when I plug in the device but even 
though it shows the device It isn't accessible, either to 
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Re: octal dump

[s. keeling]

Girish Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  I was trying to understand octal dumps today that can be obtained
>  using od.  But two questions cropped up:
> 
>  1. When would an octal dump be useful?  Surely not in perusing text

Sure.  ftp any text file from a Windows or Mac using binary mode.  od
-c that file, and you'll be enlightened.

> files?!  And when people say they use octal (or hex) dump to check
> and edit binary files, how do they learn to do so?

I used to work with seismic data, and dumping a field tape in hex to
paper was the simplest way to figure out what recording format they
used.  SEG-A, -B, -C.  This was in the '70s.


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Re: Looking for SIMPLE MTA

[s. keeling]

Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  Seriously, the reason I've been thinking about keeping the mail on the 
>  sending system is to make reference easier -- in case the mail server 
>  goes wrong  or something.  In the past it seems like things go wrong in 
>  bunches, so I've started to plan for multiple failures when I'm setting 
>  things up.  If the messages stay on the originating system until KMail 
>  picks them up, then there's no chance of them getting lost on a 3rd 
>  system.

I would think it more important to get them off those other machines
and onto the mail server so they can be backed up now.  There's what,
fifve harddrives on those machines which may fail at any time.  The
server's only got one drive for you to worry about, and presumably it
gets far better care than the satellite systems.

> > >> If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!!
> > >
> > > You mean there are people who agree with you?!?
> >
> > Only those who are right-minded...
> 
>  You misspelled Reich.

Don't ask him about Paris Hilton.


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[OT] Re: Looking for SIMPLE MTA

[s. keeling]

Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Sunday 16 November 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> > If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!!
> 
>  You mean there are people who agree with you?!?

Well, I agree with him that you ought to turn off HTML for mail to the
list.

People used to get flayed alive for having a couple or three extra
lines in their .sigs, yet we put up with html multipart mails.  :-P


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Re: Q: List Policy

[Chris Jones]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 09:20:13PM EST, s. keeling wrote:
> Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Patrick Wiseman a écrit :
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > And why do you send message in text+HTML format to this list ? ;-)
> > 
> >  Yeah .. it took me a while to figure out how I could get mutt to display
> >  the text/plain version rather than the text/html version which ended up
> >  a total mess with no indentation.. no ">"'s and naturally no coloring. 
> 
> Please elaborate?  :-)

(1) http://www.geocities.com/fcky1000/fckx/before.png
(2) http://www.geocities.com/fcky1000/fckx/after.png

When hitting  in mutt's index display I was getting some rather
messy rendering of the html version of the message via "urlview->elinks"
as demonstrated by the "before" (1) screenshot above.

I had lived with this annoyance for ages but decided it was time to do
something about it.

I googled for a while and not coming up with anything useful, I posted to
the mutt mailing list and s/o knew immediately what I was talking about
and advised I add the following to my .muttrc:

alternative_order text/plain text/html

.. and read the fine manual, of course.

This apparently did the trick -- see the (2) screenshot.

Now I can tell right away who says what, thanks to the ">"'s and ">>"'s
and everything is correctly indented.. icing on the cake, my "coloring"
choices -- more like different shades of gray -- make it easier to read
through the message at a glance.

Now that I had the proper keyword .. "alternative_order" I googled
further and found some interesting posts that give me a feeling that
there's more to it than what I implemented .. but since it works for me
so far, I decided that I have no time to become a mail expert just  now
and will keep it on the back burner to investigate further is other
messages start causing trouble.

Sorry about my earlier post being cryptic.

Thanks!

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Re: adding a web user?

[Paul Johnson]

Zach Uram wrote:
> I would like one of my friends to host some files on my apache
> webserver, but I only wish him the ability to upload files into the
> web directory, but don't want to run an FTP server since that is very
> risky. Any solution?
>   

The way I solved this for myself is I don't run an FTP daemon, but I do
run OpenSSH.  This allows users to access their shells and SFTP and SCP
as needed.




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32bit vs 64bit EXT3

[Stackpole, Chris]

Pardon me if these are basic questions, but I have only ever done clean 
installs of 64bit Debian before and I am having difficulty getting the answers 
I am looking for from Google.

I have a 32bit system with a bunch of 500GB hard drives. The system is 64bit 
capable and so I would like to format/reinstall with 64bit Lenny. 

The system started life out as a 32bit etch install. Then later I did an 
upgrade to Lenny (~5 months ago) and it has been running smooth since.

Since the drives were all formated as ext3 with a 32bit Etch install, should I 
expect any problems with the ext3 file system when I install a 64bit Lenny?

I know that the major benefits of the 64bit ext3 don't really have any 
influence on my <500GB drives. I just don't know if it would be safer to just 
verify the backup of the whole system and format them all with 64bit Lenny. I 
guess my real concern is that if I just rebuild and wipe / but keep the other 
file systems as-is then I will have the following layout *:
hda1 64bit /
hda2 64bit swap
hda3 64bit /tmp
hdb1 32bit /home
sda1 32bit /media/sda1
sdb1 32bit /media/sdb1
sdc1 32bit /media/sdc1

So I will have a mixture of 32bit and 64bit ext3 filesystems.

Also, I would really like to keep my /home partition as is. Will there be 
problems when I install 64bit and it places info on top of it?

If anyone can comment, I would be appreciative. I have a full backup of the 
system, so if I need to I can just give it a go and see what happens. I just 
would not rather spend a day doing a restore if I could prevent it.

Thanks!
~S~

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Re: inline pgp not working in evolution (when using base64 encoding?)

[Paul Johnson]

Bob Cox wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ base64 -d email_inline_pgp_failes.txt | gpg -d
> gpg: encrypted with ELG-E key, ID 5515B7F0
> gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available
>
> Presumably this is the sender's key - but where is the recipient's?
>
> Something is not quite right.  But you already knew that ;-)
>   

If I were the OP, I'd have the original sender send again, this time
making sure to encrypt against your public key in addition to himself...




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Re: Why do I need a passphrase???

[Paul Johnson]

Paul Johnson wrote:
> Chris Jones wrote:
>   
>> I have noticed that in order to reply to their posts some users on this
>> list require that I provide a "PGP passphrase" .. whatever that may be.
>>
>> I would gladly comply .. but I have no idea what that "PGP passphrase"
>> is and how I can obtain it.
>>   
>> 
> You are running a mail client that has OpenPGP support.  You can find
> out more about OpenPGP at Wikipedia. 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP.  I strongly reccommend you
> familiarize yourself with this technology as it is commonly used verify
> that an email hasn't been tampered or modified in shipping, or to
> provide end-to-end encryption.
>
> To get started with GnuPG, the GNU OpenPGP implementation, check out
>   
>
I just noticed I forgot to include the URL.
http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/book1.html




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Re: Why do I need a passphrase???

[Paul Johnson]

Chris Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:07:22AM EST, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>   
>>   I don't think it's a default, but if you have the line
>>
>>  set crypt_replysign=yes
>>
>>   in /etc/Muttrc, /etc/Muttrc.d/*, or ~/.muttrc, you'll see this
>> behavior.
>> 
>
> Absolutely .. never removed it from the .muttrc I used as a template
> some 4-5 years back .. hoping that one day I'd find the time to set it
> up correctly .. play with it a bit .. and start understanding what it's
> about.
>   

I would just get it set up correctly.  The only real sticking point in
OpenPGP is getting your head around key management (the "web of trust");
and even that becomes clear quickly.




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Re: Why do I need a passphrase???

[Paul Johnson]

Chris Jones wrote:
> I have noticed that in order to reply to their posts some users on this
> list require that I provide a "PGP passphrase" .. whatever that may be.
>
> I would gladly comply .. but I have no idea what that "PGP passphrase"
> is and how I can obtain it.
>   
You are running a mail client that has OpenPGP support.  You can find
out more about OpenPGP at Wikipedia. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP.  I strongly reccommend you
familiarize yourself with this technology as it is commonly used verify
that an email hasn't been tampered or modified in shipping, or to
provide end-to-end encryption.

To get started with GnuPG, the GNU OpenPGP implementation, check out
> Someone just asked a question to the "community".. So, I try to help,
> right? .. I try to give them some kind of answer, right? .. and now that
> I have painstakingly put together something that may help them and I'm
> about to post it.. 20 minutes of my time, could be .. and I try to
> post..  Well guess what .. I'm bloody stuck .. because of course I have
> no f***ing idea what their "PGP passphrase" is in the first place.
>   
Nor are you supposed to.  The way OpenPGP works is if you're trying to
encrypt a message to someone else, it will ask you for the passphrase to
your private key, and it will attempt to encrypt the data to your
recipient's public key.  Make sure you're mailer isn't trying to encrypt
the message when you're intentionally trying to send a message to a
public list.  If you do, everybody will get a copy of the message, but
only the people for whom you encrypted it will be able to decrypt and
read the message.
> Am I mistaken .. or are the "PGP passphrase" wise guys another ilk of
> trolls & spammers that should right away be BANNED from this list and
> every other list and restrained to "PGP passphrase land" for trying to
> look "knowledgeable" and "important" and waste everybody's time in the
> process .. or I am totally missing something and is there any good
> reason they should have the right to demand that I provide a
> "passphrase" in order to post to a list that as far as I understand is
> open to the general public??
>
> Could anyone explain why a subscriber to the list who as far as I know
> has no higher privilege than myself should have the ability to ask me
> for a "PGP passphrase" in the first place?
>   
It's unwise to make assumptions this grossly out of line with reality,
particularly if you haven't tried to look up the answer in Wikipedia or
Google yet.




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Re: Talking with Yahoo Messenger

[Paul Johnson]

steve wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>   
>> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
>> 
>>> AFAIK, gaim can't do voice chat. Use Skype for voice chat. Skype works both
>>> in Linux, Windows.
>>>   
>>>   
>> To use Skype is to say that it's perfectly OK to grossly violate the
>> GPL.  Boycott Skype.
>>
>>
>> 
>
> wasnt skype found violating gpl because of a hardware voip phone they
> developed?
>
> I wasnt aware there was anything in violation of the gpl in the skype
> software that is being talked about, is there?
>   

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware there were good and bad GPL violations.  Which
violations can we trust to be benevolent, and which shouldn't we, again?



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Re: Electricity Cutoffs, EXT3 and Filesystems

[Paul Johnson]

Chris Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 03:09:38PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>   
>> Lastly do NOT connect a printer to the UPS.
>> 
>
> Why?
>   
They're unholy electricity hogs. Plus, how badly do you need to print in
a power outage?  What are you going to do, read hard copy in the dark?



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SATA CD/DVD recording fails on Etch - MSI K8MM-V

[KEBRA]

Hi everybody, after trying for a couple of weeks, I decided to ask you 
about this.
The installer recognizes perfectly (I guess) all drives and the 
installation works fine, no errors, everything ok. I can read perfectly 
any CD or DVD, but when I try to record, kaput.
The records process starts ok, but somwhere in the middle it crashes and 
K3b shows me the error once the recording is done, and I end up whit 
corrupted files.

The recording speed is also very slow.

I've been searching the web and found a driver on viaarena.com but it 
doesn't work with my kernel.


The chipset is VIA K8M800-CE + VT8237R.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.


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xft description of a font

[Micha]

I am running compiz (using fusion icon) for some unknown reason at the moment
and for some reason if I run urxvt without xft fonts then occationally it stops
drawing some of the text properly (messes it up)

so to keep things short, I'm looking for how to describe my favorite font as a
xft font

I currently have in .Xresources:
URxvt.font: -*-fixed-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
which i believe should translate to an etl font
how do i translate it to something that would work with -fn command line as the
following doesn't produce the desired font
urxvt -fn "xft:family=Fixed:foundary=etl:weight=medium:pixelsize=16.0" -rv

thanks


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Re: multicast arp QAUD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM

[Grant Maxwell]

Thanks Alex thats exactly what I needed.

Don't know why I did not get the other posting but thanks for posting  
again.


regards
Grant


On 19/11/2008, at 8:06 AM, Alex Samad wrote:


On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 07:35:45AM +1100, Grant Maxwell wrote:

Can anyone point me at another group that might be able to help ?

thanks



You must have missed the earlier reply.  the package you are looking  
for

is iproute, the command ip maddr. More information google lartc


you might also want to look up xorp


[snip]



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Re: OT: Looking for free email service with disposable email addresses

[Ananda Samaddar]

Celejar wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:11:13 -0500
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Well, are there any good alternatives to Gmail? I can't really afford to
purchase mail space, or a web host, so I'm kinda stuck to free services.


Check out lavabit.com.  There's a free account option, although it's
limited to 128 MB of storage, 1024 incoming emails a day and 256
outgoing.  They do offer IMAP, though, and they use FLOSS.  I have had
good results with them, although I haven't used the service heavily.

http://lavabit.com/personal_e_mail.html
http://lavabit.com/hardware_software.html
http://lavabit.com/features.html

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Lavabit's webmail is limited to say the least.  Stone age may be a more
appropriate description.  And I don't think they have server side filtering


Ananda


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Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

[lee]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:22:08AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> Have you read the excellent aptitude manual (I think its in package
> aptitude-doc)?  Also, be sure to use the curses interface (rather than
> the command-line apt-get replacement).

Not yet, but I'll take a look at it, thanks.


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Re: Very slim Desktop Manager

[lee]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 05:17:29PM +0200, Micha wrote:

[installing gpm]
> but then I lose the touchpad capabilities related to synaptic such as
> scrolling and tap lock to drag, no?

That I don't know, I don't have a touchpad.


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Re: Getting a unique ID for a system?

[Richard Hartmann]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 19:42, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was agreeing with you...

Oups. Misread you there, sorry.


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Re: [OT] Broken flashplayer installation.

[Jack Schneider]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:13:18 -0600
"Stackpole, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > From: Jack Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Broken flashplayer installation.
> > 
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:18:55 -0600
> > "Stackpole, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > > From: Jack Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:01 PM
> > > > Subject: Broken flashplayer installation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, all.
> > > > Debian "lenny"
> > > > Linux Speeduke 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 14:16:53 UTC 2008
> > > x86_64
> > > > GNU/Linux
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- I get the following errors from Synaptic when trying to
> reinstall
> > > > flashplayer-mozilla.  RE:
> > > >
> > > > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libidn11_1.10-0.0_amd64.deb:
> > > trying
> > > > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libidn.so.11.5.39', which
> is
> > > also
> > > > in package libidn11-emul
> > > > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libssh2_0.18-0.0_amd64.deb:
> > > trying to
> > > > overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssh2.so.1.0.0', which is
> also
> > > in
> > > > package libssh2-1-emul
> > > > E:
> /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libcurl3_7.18.2-0.0_amd64.deb:
> > > trying
> > > > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.1.0', which
> > > > is
> > > also in
> > > > package libcurl3-emul
> > > > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnspr4_4.7.1-0.1_amd64.deb:
> > > trying
> > > > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libplds4.so.0d', which is
> > > > also
> > > in
> > > > package libnspr4-0d-emul
> > > > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnss3_3.12.0-0.1_amd64.deb:
> > > trying
> > > > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssl3.so.1d', which is
> also
> > > in
> > > > package libnss3-1d-emul
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what the /emul/* stuff is or where it came
> from...
> > > >
> > > > How do I get started fixing this...??
> > > >
> > > > TIA  Jack
> > > >
> > >
> > > This is probably not the answer you were expecting, so I labeled
> > > it Off Topic.
> > >
> > > Have you looked into the new 64bit version from Adobe?
> > > http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
> > >
> > > I had many problems with getting 32bit flash working right. I
> > > ended
> up
> > > getting something usable, but nothing satisfactory. Adobe still
> claims
> > > that the 64bit version is "Alpha" and it was only released
> > > yesterday but I have not had any issues with it yet. I have
> > > already seen a noticeable decrease in system resources while
> > > getting much better performance. The 32bit wrapper would take
> > > minutes to load a youtube video and would crash if I skipped
> > > around too much. None of those issues so far with the 64bit
> > > version. All of the sites I visit work without problem (YMMV of
> > > course).
> > >
> > > I have 2 64bit Debian Lenny systems with flash. So far 0 problems
> with
> > > the 64bit flash player 10.
> > >
> > > It is something you might want to consider.
> > >
> > > Have fun!
> > > ~S~
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Hi, Chris
> > 
> > Got the libflashplayer.so.So where exactly do I put it???
> >  FWIW, just spent a few minutes removing the 32bit stuff...
> > Thanks again!
> > 
> > Jack
> 
> 
> I just put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/, restarted iceweasel, and as soon
> as iceweasel came back up it said it found a new add-on. I verified it
> by checking Tools->Add-ons and it worked for me from there on out.
> 
> Have fun!
> ~S~
> 
> 
Thanks, Chris
That did it!!  You're the man!
Ain't DEBIAN folks wunderfull!!  8-)

Jack




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RE: [OT] Broken flashplayer installation.

[Stackpole, Chris]

> From: Jack Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] Broken flashplayer installation.
> 
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:18:55 -0600
> "Stackpole, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > From: Jack Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:01 PM
> > > Subject: Broken flashplayer installation.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, all.
> > > Debian "lenny"
> > > Linux Speeduke 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 14:16:53 UTC 2008
> > x86_64
> > > GNU/Linux
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- I get the following errors from Synaptic when trying to
reinstall
> > > flashplayer-mozilla.  RE:
> > >
> > > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libidn11_1.10-0.0_amd64.deb:
> > trying
> > > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libidn.so.11.5.39', which
is
> > also
> > > in package libidn11-emul
> > > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libssh2_0.18-0.0_amd64.deb:
> > trying to
> > > overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssh2.so.1.0.0', which is
also
> > in
> > > package libssh2-1-emul
> > > E:
/var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libcurl3_7.18.2-0.0_amd64.deb:
> > trying
> > > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.1.0', which is
> > also in
> > > package libcurl3-emul
> > > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnspr4_4.7.1-0.1_amd64.deb:
> > trying
> > > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libplds4.so.0d', which is
> > > also
> > in
> > > package libnspr4-0d-emul
> > > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnss3_3.12.0-0.1_amd64.deb:
> > trying
> > > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssl3.so.1d', which is
also
> > in
> > > package libnss3-1d-emul
> > >
> > > I don't know what the /emul/* stuff is or where it came
from...
> > >
> > > How do I get started fixing this...??
> > >
> > > TIA  Jack
> > >
> >
> > This is probably not the answer you were expecting, so I labeled it
> > Off Topic.
> >
> > Have you looked into the new 64bit version from Adobe?
> > http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
> >
> > I had many problems with getting 32bit flash working right. I ended
up
> > getting something usable, but nothing satisfactory. Adobe still
claims
> > that the 64bit version is "Alpha" and it was only released yesterday
> > but I have not had any issues with it yet. I have already seen a
> > noticeable decrease in system resources while getting much better
> > performance. The 32bit wrapper would take minutes to load a youtube
> > video and would crash if I skipped around too much. None of those
> > issues so far with the 64bit version. All of the sites I visit work
> > without problem (YMMV of course).
> >
> > I have 2 64bit Debian Lenny systems with flash. So far 0 problems
with
> > the 64bit flash player 10.
> >
> > It is something you might want to consider.
> >
> > Have fun!
> > ~S~
> >
> >
> 
> 
> Hi, Chris
> 
> Got the libflashplayer.so.So where exactly do I put it???
>  FWIW, just spent a few minutes removing the 32bit stuff...
> Thanks again!
> 
> Jack


I just put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/, restarted iceweasel, and as soon
as iceweasel came back up it said it found a new add-on. I verified it
by checking Tools->Add-ons and it worked for me from there on out.

Have fun!
~S~


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Re: multicast arp

[Alex Samad]

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 07:35:45AM +1100, Grant Maxwell wrote:
> Can anyone point me at another group that might be able to help ?
>
> thanks
>

You must have missed the earlier reply.  the package you are looking for
is iproute, the command ip maddr. More information google lartc 


you might also want to look up xorp


[snip]

>>
>> regards
>> Grant

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Re: merge 2 vpns to one broader tunnel

[Alex Samad]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:17:52PM +0600, Vladi Lemurov wrote:
> Hello!
> I have 2 vpn connections from my provider and would like to use them as  
> if it were 1 tunnel. These connections are not phisycal lines but PPP  
> vpns. The provider doesn't give the possibility to increase the  
> bandwidth (I mean I could pay for two vpn but have only one with double  
> bandwidth). Is there any possibility to merge these two tunnels into one
> virtual for example or some other way to merge their bandwidth?
>   Thanks, Vladi.

do a google for lartc and multi default gateway's - it has the potential
to let you you use the full bandwidth, with out isp help you will not be
able to bond the ppp's. ask them if they do mppp (has to come from the
same isp)

Alex

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Re: [OT] Broken flashplayer installation.

[Jack Schneider]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:18:55 -0600
"Stackpole, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > From: Jack Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:01 PM
> > Subject: Broken flashplayer installation.
> > 
> > 
> > Hi, all.
> > Debian "lenny"
> > Linux Speeduke 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 14:16:53 UTC 2008
> x86_64
> > GNU/Linux
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- I get the following errors from Synaptic when trying to reinstall
> > flashplayer-mozilla.  RE:
> > 
> > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libidn11_1.10-0.0_amd64.deb:
> trying
> > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libidn.so.11.5.39', which is
> also
> > in package libidn11-emul
> > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libssh2_0.18-0.0_amd64.deb:
> trying to
> > overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssh2.so.1.0.0', which is also
> in
> > package libssh2-1-emul
> > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libcurl3_7.18.2-0.0_amd64.deb:
> trying
> > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.1.0', which is
> also in
> > package libcurl3-emul
> > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnspr4_4.7.1-0.1_amd64.deb:
> trying
> > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libplds4.so.0d', which is
> > also
> in
> > package libnspr4-0d-emul
> > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnss3_3.12.0-0.1_amd64.deb:
> trying
> > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssl3.so.1d', which is also
> in
> > package libnss3-1d-emul
> > 
> > I don't know what the /emul/* stuff is or where it came from...
> > 
> > How do I get started fixing this...??
> > 
> > TIA  Jack
> > 
> 
> This is probably not the answer you were expecting, so I labeled it
> Off Topic.
> 
> Have you looked into the new 64bit version from Adobe?
> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
> 
> I had many problems with getting 32bit flash working right. I ended up
> getting something usable, but nothing satisfactory. Adobe still claims
> that the 64bit version is "Alpha" and it was only released yesterday
> but I have not had any issues with it yet. I have already seen a
> noticeable decrease in system resources while getting much better
> performance. The 32bit wrapper would take minutes to load a youtube
> video and would crash if I skipped around too much. None of those
> issues so far with the 64bit version. All of the sites I visit work
> without problem (YMMV of course).
> 
> I have 2 64bit Debian Lenny systems with flash. So far 0 problems with
> the 64bit flash player 10.
> 
> It is something you might want to consider.
> 
> Have fun!
> ~S~ 
> 
> 


Hi, Chris 

Got the libflashplayer.so.So where exactly do I put it???
 FWIW, just spent a few minutes removing the 32bit stuff...
Thanks again!  

Jack


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Re: Q: List Policy (ot)

[Alex Samad]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:27:47AM +0100, s. keeling wrote:
> Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >  On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:30:04AM -0600, Mark Allums wrote:

[snip]

> 
> I'm not subscribed, and haven't been for years.  I read the list in
> the nntp "mail to news gateway" (cf. Usenet).  Don't assume people are
> only going to do it in the ways you know of.  There may be/likely are
> many other ways.

Sounds like an interesting way to look at a mailing list, might have to
give it a go, any con's or gotcha's



> 

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> 

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Re: Here's something interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 18 November 2008, "S.D.Allen" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: Here's something 
interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)':
>On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:38:36 -0600, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user 
wrote:
>> The only issue I see with it is that each line ends with a "=20" and
>> that text MUAs might not filter that part out.
>
>Yes I agree. It doesn't here on slrn. It would be nice if the quoted
>printable could be turned off for this list. Boyd ... 8)

Um, no.  Quoted-printable and UUENCODE are the only standard way to include 
8-bit characters in email and UUENCODE isn't MIME-compliant.

I'm fine switching my messages to text/plain vs. multipart/signed by not 
signing them or using an inline signature.  I'm not fine with not being 
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Re: [OT] Broken flashplayer installation.

[Jack Schneider]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:18:55 -0600
"Stackpole, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > From: Jack Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:01 PM
> > Subject: Broken flashplayer installation.
> > 
> > 
> > Hi, all.
> > Debian "lenny"
> > Linux Speeduke 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 14:16:53 UTC 2008
> x86_64
> > GNU/Linux
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- I get the following errors from Synaptic when trying to reinstall
> > flashplayer-mozilla.  RE:
> > 
> > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libidn11_1.10-0.0_amd64.deb:
> trying
> > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libidn.so.11.5.39', which is
> also
> > in package libidn11-emul
> > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libssh2_0.18-0.0_amd64.deb:
> trying to
> > overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssh2.so.1.0.0', which is also
> in
> > package libssh2-1-emul
> > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libcurl3_7.18.2-0.0_amd64.deb:
> trying
> > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.1.0', which is
> also in
> > package libcurl3-emul
> > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnspr4_4.7.1-0.1_amd64.deb:
> trying
> > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libplds4.so.0d', which is
> > also
> in
> > package libnspr4-0d-emul
> > E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnss3_3.12.0-0.1_amd64.deb:
> trying
> > to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssl3.so.1d', which is also
> in
> > package libnss3-1d-emul
> > 
> > I don't know what the /emul/* stuff is or where it came from...
> > 
> > How do I get started fixing this...??
> > 
> > TIA  Jack
> > 
> 
> This is probably not the answer you were expecting, so I labeled it
> Off Topic.
> 
> Have you looked into the new 64bit version from Adobe?
> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
> 
> I had many problems with getting 32bit flash working right. I ended up
> getting something usable, but nothing satisfactory. Adobe still claims
> that the 64bit version is "Alpha" and it was only released yesterday
> but I have not had any issues with it yet. I have already seen a
> noticeable decrease in system resources while getting much better
> performance. The 32bit wrapper would take minutes to load a youtube
> video and would crash if I skipped around too much. None of those
> issues so far with the 64bit version. All of the sites I visit work
> without problem (YMMV of course).
> 
> I have 2 64bit Debian Lenny systems with flash. So far 0 problems with
> the 64bit flash player 10.
> 
> It is something you might want to consider.
> 
> Have fun!
> ~S~
> 
> 
Thanks, Chris

I am off to see the (that) wizard...

That may help... alot.

Jack

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Re: multicast arp

[Grant Maxwell]

Can anyone point me at another group that might be able to help ?

thanks

On 16/11/2008, at 10:33 AM, Grant Maxwell wrote:


Hi Folks

This is my first posting to the list so smack me if i muck up :).

I am trying to assign an multicast mac address. My environment is:

(cat /proc/version)
Debian Linux version 2.4.27-3-386 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version  
3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Thu Sep 14 08:44:58 UTC 2006


This is runnning on an ESXi vmware virtual machine.

The use of multicast mac addresses is new for me and so I may very  
well be just doing it wrong. I have searched a lot but not found a  
resolution.


I have two machines setup the same with just the ip address and  
hostname being different. I want to assign a multicast mac address  
to each machine but get an error message.


I have tried a number of ways including (with each result)

ifconfig eth0 add 01:00:5e:01:01:84
01:00:5e:01:01:84: Resolver Error 0 (no error)


ifdown eth0 ; ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:00:53:01:01:84 ; ifup eth0
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Invalid argument  
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Invalid argument
Failed to bring up eth0.


I can assign other addresses no problem - its just when I try to  
assign a multicast range address that the problem occurs.


Can anyone help please ?

regards
Grant





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Re: problems with module-assistant and gspca

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 20:32:15 -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 19:40:14 -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 20:48:53 -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am running etch and I have a pleomax pwc-2100 webcam by Pixart  
> Imaging  Inc. The pwc-2100 doesn't run out the box. After 
> googling a bit, I found  that it needs the gspca module.

[...]

>>> but still, skype and ekiga are not able to detect any webcam present...

[...]

> I just installed camorama, and when I try to run it, the message "could  
> not connect to video device (/dev/video0)" appears... this goes in line  
> with your suggestion. Now the outputs you ask for are the following  
> (sorry for the initial garbage, but I posted it to be sure gspca is 
> loaded)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo modprobe -v gspca
> Password:
> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l2-common.ko
> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l1-compat.ko
> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/videodev.ko
> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/extra/gspca/gspca.ko
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod |grep gspca
> gspca 600336  0
> videodev   21120  1 gspca
> usbcore   112644  6 gspca,usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /dev/video*
> ls: /dev/video*: No such file or directory
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo grep -E 'gspca|videodev|v4l' /var/log/syslog
> Password:
> Nov 17 20:02:40 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver gspca
> Nov 17 20:02:40 localhost kernel:  
> /tmp/buildd/linux-modules-extra-2.6-2.6.18/debian/build/build_i386_none_686_gspca/gspca_core.c:
>  
> gspca driver 2.6.18 registered
>
> So, the device /dev/video0 is not there...

This might mean that this camera is not recognized/supported, at least
with the Etch's version of gspca. The best thing to look for are the USB
device and vendor IDs, what do you get when you run "lsusb" with the
camera plugged in?

Also, it might help to see all the syslog entries related to the camera.
You can run

tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog

then plug in the camera and wait at least 30 seconds. Post all the
messages that appear. (CTRL-C to exit)

> (besides, is there a way to load gspca automatically, without calling  
> modprobe each time I want to use the cam?)

If the device is recognized and supported then the module should be
loaded automatically with the help of the information in modules.usbmap
in your kernel's module directory. If that fails then you can add the
module to /etc/modules to have it loaded at startup.

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[OT] Broken flashplayer installation.

[Stackpole, Chris]

> From: Jack Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:01 PM
> Subject: Broken flashplayer installation.
> 
> 
> Hi, all.
> Debian "lenny"
> Linux Speeduke 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 14:16:53 UTC 2008
x86_64
> GNU/Linux
> 
> 
> 
> -- I get the following errors from Synaptic when trying to reinstall
> flashplayer-mozilla.  RE:
> 
> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libidn11_1.10-0.0_amd64.deb:
trying
> to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libidn.so.11.5.39', which is
also
> in package libidn11-emul
> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libssh2_0.18-0.0_amd64.deb:
trying to
> overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssh2.so.1.0.0', which is also
in
> package libssh2-1-emul
> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libcurl3_7.18.2-0.0_amd64.deb:
trying
> to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.1.0', which is
also in
> package libcurl3-emul
> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnspr4_4.7.1-0.1_amd64.deb:
trying
> to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libplds4.so.0d', which is also
in
> package libnspr4-0d-emul
> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnss3_3.12.0-0.1_amd64.deb:
trying
> to overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssl3.so.1d', which is also
in
> package libnss3-1d-emul
> 
> I don't know what the /emul/* stuff is or where it came from...
> 
> How do I get started fixing this...??
> 
> TIA  Jack
> 

This is probably not the answer you were expecting, so I labeled it Off
Topic.

Have you looked into the new 64bit version from Adobe?
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/

I had many problems with getting 32bit flash working right. I ended up
getting something usable, but nothing satisfactory. Adobe still claims
that the 64bit version is "Alpha" and it was only released yesterday but
I have not had any issues with it yet. I have already seen a noticeable
decrease in system resources while getting much better performance. The
32bit wrapper would take minutes to load a youtube video and would crash
if I skipped around too much. None of those issues so far with the 64bit
version. All of the sites I visit work without problem (YMMV of course).

I have 2 64bit Debian Lenny systems with flash. So far 0 problems with
the 64bit flash player 10.

It is something you might want to consider.

Have fun!
~S~


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Broken flashplayer installation.

[Jack Schneider]

Hi, all.
Debian "lenny"
Linux Speeduke 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 14:16:53 UTC 2008 x86_64 
GNU/Linux



-- I get the following errors from Synaptic when trying to reinstall
flashplayer-mozilla.  RE:

E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libidn11_1.10-0.0_amd64.deb: trying to 
overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libidn.so.11.5.39', which is also in 
package libidn11-emul
E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libssh2_0.18-0.0_amd64.deb: trying to 
overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssh2.so.1.0.0', which is also in package 
libssh2-1-emul
E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libcurl3_7.18.2-0.0_amd64.deb: trying to 
overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.1.0', which is also in package 
libcurl3-emul
E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnspr4_4.7.1-0.1_amd64.deb: trying to 
overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libplds4.so.0d', which is also in package 
libnspr4-0d-emul
E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs-libnss3_3.12.0-0.1_amd64.deb: trying to 
overwrite `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libssl3.so.1d', which is also in package 
libnss3-1d-emul

I don't know what the /emul/* stuff is or where it came from...

How do I get started fixing this...??

TIA  Jack



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Re: problems during debian installation

[Kent West]

raman narasimhan wrote:
> i study in an engg. college student and recently our department
> (computer science and engineering) decided to switch from WINDOWS to
> LINUX.. A few of us formed linux awareness group and since i was
> already a linux user i volunteered to help... we chose DEBIAN as our
> OS.. we downloaded the debian binary dvds from the debian.org
>  website.. made copies and distributed it amongst
> our friends who needed it..
> we encountered a few problems while installation:
>
> 1. installation was successful on a system but on re-boot after
> installation it showed *gdm failed. X-server errror. Screen not
> found*. cant access gnome desktop.

This generally means X is not properly configured for the video card.
Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing the video driver from
whatever it is (nv? ati? other?) to "vesa". Once you've saved the file,
try restarting gdm ("/etc/init.d/gdm restart"). If that works, you know
you'll need to tinker with your video settings to get it right. (Setting
up X's video settings is still a lot harder than it needs to be,
unfortunately.)

> 2. installation was successful on a system. but on re-start it showed
> "*GRUB LOADER ERROR*". unable to access both windows and debian on it

I'd try reinstalling grub. Boot from a LiveCD (Ubuntu, Knoppix, etc --
do the Debian installation DVDs function as a LiveCD?) and from a
terminal issue the command "grub-install" (or is it "install-grub"? or
other? I forget). Other than that attempt, I'm afraid I'd next turn to
Google or this list's archives, or ask more pointedly, with a specific
subject line about "grub loader error".


> 3. this happened to a friend of mine.. he installed debian.. but on
> boot-up his screen showed  the following box
> ..
> | Hz?   |  
> 
>
> this box was moving to and fro on the screen...(i think it's due to
> some resolution mismatch) 

Does this happen immediately on power-up? After the lilo/grub prompt has
passed? During the basic boot up? After the machine should be running X?

I'm guessing it's happening after X tries starting. In that case, try
pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1, which should drop you to the text-based virtual
terminal number one, where you can start working on making repairs to
the X resolution (see caveat about X being hard to configure in #1 above).

> also files from his *system32 got corrupt* how come??? poor guy
> couldn't accesss windows or linux
> he got fed up and reinstalled xp!!!

About the only way this could happen is if the Windows partition were
shrunk during the install and something went wrong in that process,
especially if Windows had not been defragged first. Playing with
partitions is always dangerous and warrants a good backup before doing so.

No other part of the install should have corrupted "system32"; it could
have corrupted the initial boot process, but not the "system32"
"process". At least not in normal space-time as I'm cognizant of things.

But honestly, knowing the fragility of Windows (I'm a tech support
person, and I KNOW the fragility of Windows), I tend to suspect that
Windows just happened to choose this moment to cough up blood, and it's
only a coincidence, which unfortunately, makes Debian look bad.

> 4.  two of my friends have wipro laptops that are supposed to be linux
> compatible.. the installer couldn't identify the hard disk itself...
> they told me it was SATA so i tried all the SATA options in VGUI
> mode..(normal mode was not supported dont know Y!! ) but was of no
> use!!! cant create partitions if hard disk is not detected...

I had the hardest time installing any Linux on a specific Dell model
once (don't recall the model now); I eventually had to install from an
external USB drive before the internal drive would be recognized. It was
the craziest thing! Really generated a negative impression of Dell in my
mind, even though I've had very little trouble with the many various
models of Dells I've used before.


I'm unsure if you're making a report on your experiences, or asking for
help. If the latter, you'll probably get better responses if you break
the issues up into separate emails with meaningful subject lines.

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Re: more openssh trouble?

[en0f]

markus reichelt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> http://www.cpni.gov.uk/Docs/Vulnerability_Advisory_SSH.txt
> 
> how does one switch from CBC mode to CTR mode?

>From sshd_config(5)-

Ciphers
 Specifies the ciphers allowed for protocol version 2.  Multiple
 ciphers must be comma-separated.  The supported ciphers are
 ``3des-cbc'', ``aes128-cbc'', ``aes192-cbc'', ``aes256-cbc'',
 ``aes128-ctr'', ``aes192-ctr'', ``aes256-ctr'', ``arcfour128'',
 ``arcfour256'', ``arcfour'', ``blowfish-cbc'', and
 ``cast128-cbc''.  The default is:

aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,
arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,aes128-ctr,
aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr


So, get rid of cbc to ctr in your sshd_config file (typically found in 
/etc/ssh/).




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Re: bug advice

[Mark Allums]

Earl Sullaway wrote:

Not sure where this bug should be reported.
 
New install of Lenny amd64 on HP Proliant DL360G5, onboard SAS RAID, 
Broadcom G-Ethernet
 
During install, message indicated install of bnx2-06-4.0.5.fw required 
for ethernet adapter, installed from USB drive
 
During boot, grub error 2 message
 
Checked menu.lst, AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST. 
Entry for root indicated (hd1,0), changed it to (hd0,0) and rebooted fine.
 
I don't know if it did this because of the usb drive in the system when 
grub was installed or something else.

System seem to be working otherwise.
 
Not sure where to report the bug.


Uh, file a Debian bug, possibly; you might ask this question again on 
the bug list.


Mark Allums


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apt-cacher-ng

[Stackpole, Chris]

Caching is perfect for those that consistently use the same packages in
their builds or for those who have to update many systems and do not
want to use lots of bandwidth. One package that I have been using for
sometime and am a big fan of is apt-cacher. I have mentioned it to
several people on this list and have I helped a lot of people setup and
configure it. Today, I discovered apt-cacher-ng in Lenny.

The about section describes it as: "Apt-Cacher NG is a caching HTTP
download proxy for software packages, primarily for Debian/Ubuntu
clients. It's partially based on concepts of Apt-Cacher but is rewritten
with a main focus on performance and low resource usage."

I thought I had used most of the cacher/mirrors that Debian provided for
apt, but this one was new to me. So I gave it a shot. Apt-get installed
it with no problems. I added my own local repository to
/etc/apt-cacher-ng/backends_debian (just because I don't mind hammering
my own servers for testing purposes). I updated
/etc/apt-cacher-ng/acng.conf with the port and directories that I
wanted, and started it up.

I opened Firefox and went to localhost: (default is 3142) to be
greeted by page describing what I need to do to configure apt to use
apt-cacher-ng. It also provides a link to a usage report.

It was a really simple setup. So far I see only one major difference
between apt-cacher-ng and apt-cacher: the fact that the reports are
generated on page load (apt-cacher-ng) and not once a day by a cron job
(apt-cacher). Other then that one detail I have not noticed a huge
difference in the two programs. 

I have attached a few systems to it and am planning on letting it run
for a while to see if any problems show up. Even though it doesn't
appear that different to me now the updated reports are worth giving it
a longer test run. I use those reports often and it is nice to have them
auto updated.

Here is the link to the main webpage if anyone is interested:
http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~bloch/acng/

I am very interested in others experiences with apt-cacher-ng. If there
is a feature that makes it stand out over the other cachers that I
missed, please let me know. Thanks!

Have Fun!
~S~


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Re: bandwidth logger/report

[Michael Shuler]

On 11/18/2008 12:23 PM, Celejar wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:50:18 -0800 (PST)
Phillipus Gunawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Is there any application to log bandwidth for each clients/hosts connected to 
debian gateway?


Won't bandwidthd do what you want?  I haven't tried it, but from the
description, it seems to.


bandwidthd looks pretty slick - thanks, Celejar.

I have been using net-acct to log network stats on a bunch of web 
servers as an additional bit of data beyond web logs - it's extremely 
lightweight and does not output anything other than the log files, but 
then you can do whatever you want with the data  :)


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Re: GnomeSword2 Bible Program

[Kent West]

Donny Forbes wrote:
> I am trying to use this program, however it is all in Arabic. I don't
> know this language or speak it. My question to you is does this support
> English or other bible text? I did go to edit -> preferences -> modules
> -> main and saw a drop down for Biblical Text however there is no other 
> options for this. It is only AraSVD which I believe is the Arabic one.
> Please help me to get this to work.
>   

Go to Edit/Module Manager.

Then Sword/Configure.

Change the Install Source from Local to Remote.

Now still in Edit/Module Manager, change to Modules/Install, and click
on Refresh.

Now you can select more modules to install, including various Biblical
texts and Commentaries and Dictionaries, etc.

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Re: Getting a unique ID for a system?

[Ron Johnson]

On 11/18/08 11:14, Richard Hartmann wrote:

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:02, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The Debian installation I am writing this from was first installed on almost
completely different hardware.  The only commonality between that PC and my
current box is that I brought the boot disk (hda) with me.


In this case, the scheme I have in mind would result in a new ID for your
system once it is using the new processor, etc.


I was agreeing with you...

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bug advice

[Earl Sullaway]

Not sure where this bug should be reported.

New install of Lenny amd64 on HP Proliant DL360G5, onboard SAS RAID,
Broadcom G-Ethernet

During install, message indicated install of bnx2-06-4.0.5.fw required for
ethernet adapter, installed from USB drive

During boot, grub error 2 message

Checked menu.lst, AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST.
Entry for root indicated (hd1,0), changed it to (hd0,0) and rebooted fine.

I don't know if it did this because of the usb drive in the system when grub
was installed or something else.
System seem to be working otherwise.

Not sure where to report the bug.

Re: bandwidth logger/report

[Celejar]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:50:18 -0800 (PST)
Phillipus Gunawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi There,
> 
> Is there any application to log bandwidth for each clients/hosts connected to 
> debian gateway?
> I got a debian act as gateway for each hosts.
> The purpose is to produce report on periodically (daily, monthly...) on how 
> much bandwidth each hosts used up, either they currently online or offline
> 
> I've been googling around, but most app only display the bandwidth rates/speed
> If they do logged the bandwidth, it would only when the host/user connected 
> and using it and it will re-start counting when they re-connected.

Won't bandwidthd do what you want?  I haven't tried it, but from the
description, it seems to.

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Re: Re: how to change date of system

[Andres Migliazzo]

You can consider these aproaches depends of the situation:

1-  Synch. your system with a reliable NTP server and change the hardware
clock. This is what I do in my home's system.
# rdate time.mit.edu && hwclock --systohc

2- Install openntpd and run the an ntp client as a daemon. This is what I do
in my servers at work.
NTP, the Network Time Protocol, is used to keep the computer clocks
synchronized. It provides the ability to sync the local clock to remote NTP
servers and can act as NTP server itself, redistributing the local clock.

3- Add a line in the crontab which synchronizes the time hourly:
# crontan -e
0 * * * *  /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s time.mit.edu

ntpdate is a simple NTP client that sets a system's clock to match  the time
obtained by communicating with one or more NTP servers.  It  is not
sufficient, however, for maintaining an accurate clock in the long run.
ntpdate by itself is useful for occasionally setting the time on machines
that do not have full-time network access, such as laptops.

more openssh trouble?

[markus reichelt]

Hi,

http://www.cpni.gov.uk/Docs/Vulnerability_Advisory_SSH.txt

how does one switch from CBC mode to CTR mode?

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Re: Getting a unique ID for a system?

[John Hasler]

Richard writes:
> I would simply do

>  uuidgen > /etc/hosts

> if I could rely on IDs of that kind. Unfortunately, I can't :(

Why not?
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Re: Memory known only 1G

[Andres Migliazzo]

Try the 686 Kernel instead of the 383.

Re: GnomeSword2 Bible Program

[Cheryl Homiak]

If you installed gnomesord with apt-get, it should have put the KJV in 
English in.





On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Donny Forbes wrote:


Hi,

I am trying to use this program, however it is all in Arabic. I don't
know this language or speak it. My question to you is does this support
English or other bible text? I did go to edit -> preferences -> modules
-> main and saw a drop down for Biblical Text however there is no other
options for this. It is only AraSVD which I believe is the Arabic one.
Please help me to get this to work.

Thanks,
Df


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Re: Getting a unique ID for a system?

[Richard Hartmann]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:02, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The Debian installation I am writing this from was first installed on almost
> completely different hardware.  The only commonality between that PC and my
> current box is that I brought the boot disk (hda) with me.

In this case, the scheme I have in mind would result in a new ID for your
system once it is using the new processor, etc.


Richard


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Re: problems during debian installation

[Adrian Chapela]

raman narasimhan escribió:
i study in an engg. college student and recently our department 
(computer science and engineering) decided to switch from WINDOWS to 
LINUX.. A few of us formed linux awareness group and since i was 
already a linux user i volunteered to help... we chose DEBIAN as our 
OS.. we downloaded the debian binary dvds from the debian.org 
 website.. made copies and distributed it amongst 
our friends who needed it..

we encountered a few problems while installation:

1. installation was successful on a system but on re-boot after 
installation it showed *gdm failed. X-server errror. Screen not 
found*. cant access gnome desktop.


2. installation was successful on a system. but on re-start it showed 
"*GRUB LOADER ERROR*". unable to access both windows and debian on it


3. this happened to a friend of mine.. he installed debian.. but on 
boot-up his screen showed  the following box

..
| Hz?   |  



this box was moving to and fro on the screen...(i think it's due to 
some resolution mismatch) 

also files from his *system32 got corrupt* how come??? poor guy 
couldn't accesss windows or linux

he got fed up and reinstalled xp!!!

4.  two of my friends have wipro laptops that are supposed to be linux 
compatible.. the installer couldn't identify the hard disk itself... 
they told me it was SATA so i tried all the SATA options in VGUI 
mode..(normal mode was not supported dont know Y!! ) but was of no 
use!!! cant create partitions if hard disk is not detected...

What is the version are you using ?



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problems during debian installation

[raman narasimhan]

i study in an engg. college student and recently our department (computer
science and engineering) decided to switch from WINDOWS to LINUX.. A few of
us formed linux awareness group and since i was already a linux user i
volunteered to help... we chose DEBIAN as our OS.. we downloaded the debian
binary dvds from the debian.org website.. made copies and distributed it
amongst our friends who needed it..
we encountered a few problems while installation:

1. installation was successful on a system but on re-boot after installation
it showed *gdm failed. X-server errror. Screen not found*. cant access gnome
desktop.

2. installation was successful on a system. but on re-start it showed "*GRUB
LOADER ERROR*". unable to access both windows and debian on it

3. this happened to a friend of mine.. he installed debian.. but on boot-up
his screen showed  the following box
..
| Hz?   |


this box was moving to and fro on the screen...(i think it's due to some
resolution mismatch)

also files from his *system32 got corrupt* how come??? poor guy couldn't
accesss windows or linux
he got fed up and reinstalled xp!!!

4.  two of my friends have wipro laptops that are supposed to be linux
compatible.. the installer couldn't identify the hard disk itself... they
told me it was SATA so i tried all the SATA options in VGUI mode..(normal
mode was not supported dont know Y!! ) but was of no use!!! cant create
partitions if hard disk is not detected...

GnomeSword2 Bible Program

[Donny Forbes]

Hi,

I am trying to use this program, however it is all in Arabic. I don't
know this language or speak it. My question to you is does this support
English or other bible text? I did go to edit -> preferences -> modules
-> main and saw a drop down for Biblical Text however there is no other 
options for this. It is only AraSVD which I believe is the Arabic one.
Please help me to get this to work.

Thanks,
Df


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Re: Installing Debian on late 2008 MacBook Pro

[jsmurf]

Hi all,

(This is both an install report and a help request, so I'm cross-posting on
debian-boot and debian-user.)

I'm trying to install Debian on a late 2008 MacBook Pro.

I had no luck with Debian Etch 4.0r5 (AMD64): the keyboard couln't be set
correctly (it reacted as if the control key was continuously pressed) and
the CD drive was not recognized ("No common CD-ROM drive was detected", said
the installer).

With Debian Lenny RC1 (AMD64), everything was correctly detected.  I
formatted the third partition (/dev/sda3) as a LVM physical volume and
volume group.  I splitted that volume group into two logical volumes, one
for the root filesystem and one for swap.  I had to reboot to sync the MBR
and GPT tables (in rEFIt), and the install process finished without any
problems; LILO installed its boot record on /dev/sda3 without complaining,
and the Linux partition is recognized by rEFIt.  However, when I booted the
system, LILO loaded the kernel, but it failed miserably at the very
beginning of the boot process (it's the fifth line it prints):

Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs or
unknown-block(253,1)

I rebooted with the install disk in rescue mode to debug the problem.  My
first idea was that the LVM module was not build into the kernel, which
could prevent Linux to access the LVM partition.  I was right, so I compiled
a new kernel:

apt-get install linux-source-2.6.26
cat /boot/config-2.6.26-1-amd64 | sed -e
's/CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM=m/CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM=y/' > .config
make-kpkg --initrd --revision foo kernel_image
dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.26_foo.deb

The boot process indeed goes a few steps further, but fails again:

RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0
VFS: Cannot open root device "fd01" or unknown-block(253,1)
Please append correct "root=" boot option; here are the available
partitions:
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs or
unknown-block(253,1)

I then tried to add the ext2, ext3 and cramfs modules in the system, but
with no more luck.

I also tried various configurations for LILO, again with no luck:
 - root=/dev/mapper/vg-root (default setup by Debian installer)
 - append="root=/dev/mapper/vg-root"
 - root=/dev/ram0 append="lvm2root=/dev/mapper/vg-root"
 - append="root=/dev/ram0 lvm2root=/dev/mapper/vg-root"

When the "root=/dev/ram0" option is passed to the kernel, I get IIRC the
following error:

RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0
VFS: Cannot open root device 100 or unknown-block(0,0)
Please append correct "root=" boot option; here are the available
partitions:
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs or
unknown-block(0,0)

and with "root=/dev/mapper/vg-root" I get:

RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0
VFS: Cannot open root device "mapper/vg-root" or unknown-block(0,0)
Please append correct "root=" boot option; here are the available
partitions:
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs or
unknown-block(0,0)

Any ideas?


By no means an expert, but if the installer boots, have you tried
breaking out into a shell / rescue mode, finding out what modules are
loaded, and compiling them in?  Dirty, but may just work...



Just tried it, it does not help...



What is your lilo config?



boot=/dev/sda3
map=/boot/map
default=Linux
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
initrd=/initrd.img
read-only

I tried various configurations with a "root=..." option (see higher).



Are you sure your initrd is being found?



I guess, but I'm not sure.  LILO prints "LILO 22.8 Loading Linux[dots][a 
space][dots][return]" with that config; if I remove the "initrd=" line, it 
prints "LILO 22.8[dots][return]".


Thanks,

jsmurf


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Re: Here's something interesting... (was Re: Q: List Policy)

[Ken Irving]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:43:49AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 11/18/08 03:35, Ken Irving wrote:
> [snip]
>> also for some MIME forms if the last one is visible.  The list software 
>> does not change, mung, or otherwise mess with message bodies other than
>
> Well it should!

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345283

It looks to me like the issue was dropped because the list admins were
satisfied that the debian lists follow RFC 2369 and put the unsubscribe
url in the headers.  A procmail recipe was offered to grab the multipart
boundary string from the headers and use it to terminate the last MIME
section, then add the unsubscribe footer.

Ken

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Re: Getting a unique ID for a system?

[Richard Hartmann]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:20, Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've absolutely no idea what you are trying to do here or why.  I'm a little
> curious about that.

I want to assign all hosts a unique id that is consistent across all
monitoring and accounting solutions.
The existance of VMs makes a simply solution like /etc/hostid
imossible to use.


> But if you are trying to find a unique id that isn't tied to hardware or
> pretty much anything else then why not just make one up.

Actually, I do want an ID that is unique and tied to the hardware.


> Here:  I wrote this in the middle of this email:

I would simply do

  uuidgen > /etc/hosts

if I could rely on IDs of that kind. Unfortunately, I can't :(


Richard


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[OT] less spam

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi,

After the shutdown of that server I get less spam.
Others have noted that too:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/18/AR2008111801120.html?hpid=topnews

Hugo


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Re: OT: Looking for free email service with disposable email addresses

[Mark Allums]

Ananda Samaddar wrote:

All this rubbish could have been avoided by simply using folders and not 
labels - but no Google had to do their own way.  The cynics, me 
included, would argue that Google doesn't want you to delete e-mail so 
they can data mine it.  You make up your own mind.


This is true, they've publicly stated this.  After complaints, they 
changed their policy slightly.  Not significantly.  I'm sorry, I don't 
have a reference, but I am sure a diligent searcher can find one. 
(Mightn't want to use Google for this, use Ask or MSN Search instead. 
Speaking of cynicism.)


Mark Allums


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Re: Q: List Policy

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,  Here is fact ...

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 01:43:53PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> I was fairly sure that the policy for this list, and most of the Debian 
> mailing lists was to NOT CC the poster in replies unless they requested 
> it.  Is that correct?

See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct

# When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon
# copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be
# copied.

# If you want to complain to someone who sent you a carbon copy when you
# did not ask for it, do it privately.

Osamu


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Re: mencoder crash permanently

[Jochen Schulz]

Michelle Konzack:
> Am 2008-11-17 14:18:26, schrieb Michelle Konzack:
>> Now I have tried
>> 
>> ffmpeg -i 2007-08-05_Tehran.flv 2007-08-05_Tehran.mp4
>> 
>> But the video looks a little bit weird...

Define "weird". By the way, it might help to set a bitrate and video
dimensions (-b, -s).

> And then I get for other videos:
> 
> Seems that stream 0 comes from film source: 1000.00 (1000/1) -> 7.50 (15/2)
> Input #0, flv, from '2007-08-14_Re:_We_Need_Your_Help!.flv':
>   Duration: 00:00:05.8, bitrate: N/A
>   Stream #0.0: Video: flv, yuv420p, 480x360,  7.50 fps(r)
^
>   Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, mono
> Output #0, mpeg, to '2007-08-14_Re:_We_Need_Your_Help!.mpg':
>   Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg1video, yuv420p, 480x360, q=2-31, 200 kb/s,  5.00 
> fps(c)
 
You might want to use -r to use the samt framerate as in the input file.
But only after upgrading your ancient ffmpeg, of course.

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Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:24:02AM -0600, lee wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:39:10PM +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> 
> > > Maybe I even come to like to aptitude if I can figure it out.
> > >
> > 
> > If you can't figure it out, that doesn't mean it sucks.
> 
> That you can figure it out doesn't mean that it doesn't suck.
> 
> Maybe I did figure it out but found that it wouldn't do what I wanted
> it to do. There's no way to know now.
> 

Have you read the excellent aptitude manual (I think its in package
aptitude-doc)?  Also, be sure to use the curses interface (rather than
the command-line apt-get replacement).

Doug.


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Re: Very slim Desktop Manager

[Micha]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:15:15 -0600
lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:44:54AM +0100, s. keeling wrote:
> 
> > Not to mention, gpm config is a black art.  I have no clue how to gpm
> > my mouse, and haven't for years.  I knew how long ago, but gpm is not
> > easy these days.  What protocol does a three button, serial, logitech
> > mouse use?  None of what I've tried work.  M/N:M-M35?
> 
> It worked out of the box for me, I have a Logitech Trackman Marble
> FX. It has 4 buttons, and at least three of them work.
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/gpm.conf
> #  /etc/gpm.conf - configuration file for gpm(1)
> #
> #  If mouse response seems to be to slow, try using
> #  responsiveness=15. append can contain any random arguments to be
> #  appended to the commandline.
> #
> #  If you edit this file by hand, please be aware it is sourced by
> #  /etc/init.d/gpm and thus all shell meta characters must be
> #  protected from evaluation (i.e. by quoting them).
> #
> #  This file is used by /etc/init.d/gpm and can be modified by
> #  "dpkg-reconfigure gpm" or by hand at your option.
> #
> device=/dev/input/mice
> responsiveness=
> repeat_type=none
> type=exps2
> append=''
> sample_rate=
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> 
> What gpm doesn't like is when by using setfont the number of lines on
> the screen changes, but restarting it fixes that. It eventually
> doesn't like starting X11, but that is probably because I still have
> X11 configured to access the mouse instead of using gpm because I
> didn't use gpm before. For the protocol:
> 
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Configured Mouse"
> Driver "mouse"
> Option "CorePointer"
> Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
> Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false"
> EndSection
> 
> 

but then I lose the touchpad capabilities related to synaptic such as
scrolling and tap lock to drag, no?

> Just give it a try and install it, if it doesn't work, you can still
> remove it.
> 
> 


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Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

[Daniel Burrows]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:33:39AM -0600, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to 
say:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 07:51:30PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> 
> >   The "expected" workflow in aptitude is that you pick all the changes
> > you want to make, then ask aptitude to show you all the changes that
> > will be made (including ones that were required by your past changes).
> > If you like it, you confirm that it's OK and aptitude applies the
> > changes.
> 
> Then how do you know what changes cause what? Are you going through
> the list and somehow trace back all the dependencies to figure that
> out? And when you make another change, you have to start all over
> again?

  If you select a package in the preview screen, aptitude will show you
packages that are related by dependencies.  You can also type "i" a few
times to see a package that you selected manually which requires each
newly installed package (but this isn't perfect in some corner cases).

> BTW, how do you tell aptitude to tell you what it would do? I just
> started it and couldn't figure that out. I would like to see what it
> would do without me making any changes.

  Press "g" and you get a summary of all the changes you've made.

  Daniel


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Re: How to find out monitor range?

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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> Hi everybody,
> 
> i often set up debian (or debian based) systems. But with old CRT
> monitors i often get problems because of wrong default values for the
> monitor range.
> Which command is good for finding out the range?

ddcprobe from the xresprobe package.

regards,

Johannes
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Compact Flash (CF) boot question

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Hello,

I have a fanless board by Acrosser with Geode GX CPU. The board has a CF
slot that is seen as primary/secondary HDD in Bios. I've jumpered to
primary as I don't have a HDD attached. The card is a CF card (hda: ELITE
PRO CF CARD 4GB, ATA DISK drive).
Now the problem is that the system can not boot from this card. Can someone
tell me how to debug, please.
I'm thinking that may be the bios is not supporting such a big CF card.

The other think is that when I boot from USB or other drive I have this
following error couple of times after that the CF card is mounted:

Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver
cs5535 :00:0f.2: IDE controller (0x100b:0x002d rev 0x00)
cs5535 :00:0f.2: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: ELITE PRO CF CARD 4GB, ATA DISK drive
hda: host max PIO4 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO2
hda: host side 80-wire cable detection failed, limiting max speed to UDMA33
hda: UDMA/33 mode selected
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: max request size: 128KiB
hda: 7831152 sectors (4009 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=7769/16/63
 hda:<4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21
hda: DMA timeout error
hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
hda: DMA disabled
ide0: reset: success
 hda1 hda2 hda3

There was an option to pass CHS on the command line at boot time, but I'm
not quite sure what the root cause is. I'm using kernel 2.6.26.2 or
2.6.27.6, but same behaviour with both except that with 2.6.27 I can not
boot some times (it hangs after reading the intrd file).

Thank you in advance

regards


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Re: mencoder crash permanently

[Ron Johnson]

On 11/18/08 07:53, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Am 2008-11-17 14:18:26, schrieb Michelle Konzack:

Now I have tried

ffmpeg -i 2007-08-05_Tehran.flv 2007-08-05_Tehran.mp4

But the video looks a little bit weird...


And then I get for other videos:

FFmpeg version SVN-rUNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard


That's a *really* old version.

The one I have is from www.debian-multimedia.org.

$ ffmpeg -version
FFmpeg version SVN-r13582, Copyright (c) 2000-2008 Fabrice Bellard, 
et al.
  configuration: --prefix=/usr --libdir=${prefix}/lib 
--shlibdir=${prefix}/lib --bindir=${prefix}/bin 
--incdir=${prefix}/include/ffmpeg --enable-shared 
--enable-libmp3lame --enable-gpl --enable-libfaad 
--mandir=${prefix}/share/man --enable-libvorbis --enable-pthreads 
--enable-libfaac --enable-libxvid --enable-postproc 
--enable-libamr-nb --enable-libamr-wb --enable-x11grab 
--enable-libgsm --enable-libx264 --enable-liba52 --enable-libtheora 
--extra-cflags=-Wall -g -fPIC -DPIC --cc=ccache cc --enable-swscale 
--enable-libdc1394 --enable-nonfree --disable-mmx 
--disable-stripping --enable-avfilter --enable-libdirac 
--disable-decoder=libdirac --enable-libschroedinger 
--disable-encoder=libschroedinger --disable-altivec 
--disable-armv5te --disable-armv6 --disable-vis

  libavutil version: 49.7.0
  libavcodec version: 51.58.0
  libavformat version: 52.16.0
  libavdevice version: 52.0.0
  libavfilter version: 0.0.0
  built on Oct 22 2008 15:22:08, gcc: 4.3.2
FFmpeg SVN-r13582
libavutil   3213056
libavcodec  3357184
libavformat 3411968
libavdevice 3407872



  configuration:  --enable-gpl --enable-pp --enable-pthreads --enable-vorbis 
--enable-libogg --enable-a52 --enable-dts --enable-libgsm --enabl
e-dc1394 --disable-debug --enable-shared --prefix=/usr
  libavutil version: 0d.49.0.0
  libavcodec version: 0d.51.11.0
  libavformat version: 0d.50.5.0
  built on Mar 26 2007 15:50:40, gcc: 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 
4.1.1-21)

Seems that stream 0 comes from film source: 1000.00 (1000/1) -> 7.50 (15/2)
Input #0, flv, from '2007-08-14_Re:_We_Need_Your_Help!.flv':
  Duration: 00:00:05.8, bitrate: N/A
  Stream #0.0: Video: flv, yuv420p, 480x360,  7.50 fps(r)
  Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, mono
Output #0, mpeg, to '2007-08-14_Re:_We_Need_Your_Help!.mpg':
  Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg1video, yuv420p, 480x360, q=2-31, 200 kb/s,  5.00 
fps(c)
  Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 44100 Hz, mono, 64 kb/s
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
  Stream #0.1 -> #0.1
[mpeg1video @ 0xb7decf08]MPEG1/2 does not support 5/1 fps
Error while opening codec for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters 
such as bit_rate, rate, width or height


Any suggestions?


Corrupt file?

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Re: OT: Looking for free email service with disposable email addresses

[lee]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 06:11:13PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote:

> Well, are there any good alternatives to Gmail? I can't really afford to
> purchase mail space, or a web host, so I'm kinda stuck to free services.

DynDns maybe? You can create an MX entry for your domain, and if you
can forward all mail from an "other" (like gmail) account, you only
need to set up your mailserver to recieve mail. If you don't want to
send mail directly, you can use the "other" account as a smarthost.

The great advantage is that you can get a full-featured mail server
without a static IP; the disadvantage is that when your IP changes,
there's a chance that mail is being forwarded to the old IP address
where it could eventually be recieved by someone else (But how likely
is that?).

When your server is offline (like when you're on vacation), cancel the
forwarding for the time and pick up the mail from the "other" account
later. I've been using that for more than a year, and now I'm doing it
that way again, and I've never had a problem with it.


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Re: mencoder crash permanently

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-11-17 14:18:26, schrieb Michelle Konzack:
> Now I have tried
> 
> ffmpeg -i 2007-08-05_Tehran.flv 2007-08-05_Tehran.mp4
> 
> But the video looks a little bit weird...

And then I get for other videos:

FFmpeg version SVN-rUNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard
  configuration:  --enable-gpl --enable-pp --enable-pthreads --enable-vorbis 
--enable-libogg --enable-a52 --enable-dts --enable-libgsm --enabl
e-dc1394 --disable-debug --enable-shared --prefix=/usr
  libavutil version: 0d.49.0.0
  libavcodec version: 0d.51.11.0
  libavformat version: 0d.50.5.0
  built on Mar 26 2007 15:50:40, gcc: 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 
4.1.1-21)

Seems that stream 0 comes from film source: 1000.00 (1000/1) -> 7.50 (15/2)
Input #0, flv, from '2007-08-14_Re:_We_Need_Your_Help!.flv':
  Duration: 00:00:05.8, bitrate: N/A
  Stream #0.0: Video: flv, yuv420p, 480x360,  7.50 fps(r)
  Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, mono
Output #0, mpeg, to '2007-08-14_Re:_We_Need_Your_Help!.mpg':
  Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg1video, yuv420p, 480x360, q=2-31, 200 kb/s,  5.00 
fps(c)
  Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 44100 Hz, mono, 64 kb/s
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
  Stream #0.1 -> #0.1
[mpeg1video @ 0xb7decf08]MPEG1/2 does not support 5/1 fps
Error while opening codec for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters 
such as bit_rate, rate, width or height


Any suggestions?








Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack
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Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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