Re: 64-bit Flash Player

[Johann Spies]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 09:49:59PM -0500, Daryl Styrk wrote:
> I just did a fresh install.. So what I did was.
> 
> mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
> and move the .so there.
> 
> get rid of any other instances of a previous flash install.
> 
> I did nothing else, didn't attempt to install anything else..  Works
> like a charm here.

Strange.  This did not work for me on an Ubuntu Hardy installation as
well as on Debian Lenny. Although Firefox (about:plugins) would show
that the flashplayer is active, it just did not work.

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Re: How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root) privileges?

[Brendan West]

I am using gnome.  The problem I am having with user privileges,
though, is only on the gui.  I can easily use the root privileges on
the terminal.  I am trying to use AVG 7.5, but it says that I don't
have the privileges to access the executable.

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> On Tuesday 09 December 2008, "Brendan West"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'How do I make my normal
> account (not root) have administrative (root) privileges?':
>>How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root)
>>privileges?  I thought that it was set up like that already, but I am
>>unable to start some programs under my normal account.  And for some
>>reason, I can't log onto the desktop gui as root.  Any ideas?
>
> I agree with the other poster, that you should use explicit commands for
> gaining root level privledges.  su and sudo are two ways; you can even set
> sudo to no prompt for a password for things you do often.
>
> However, you should have full access if you change your user's uid to 0.
>
> As that point though, your user and root are mostly the same account.  You
> might as well just always login as root.  You can change the name of the
> root account fairly easily, by edit /etc/passwd (and associated shadow
> files).
>
> As for the login issue, what are you using: xdm, gdm, kdm or other?
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Re: How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root) privileges?

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 20:51, Brendan West wrote:

How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root)
privileges?  I thought that it was set up like that already, but I am
unable to start some programs under my normal account.  And for some
reason, I can't log onto the desktop gui as root.  Any ideas?


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Re: How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root) privileges?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 09 December 2008, "Brendan West" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'How do I make my normal 
account (not root) have administrative (root) privileges?':
>How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root)
>privileges?  I thought that it was set up like that already, but I am
>unable to start some programs under my normal account.  And for some
>reason, I can't log onto the desktop gui as root.  Any ideas?

I agree with the other poster, that you should use explicit commands for 
gaining root level privledges.  su and sudo are two ways; you can even set 
sudo to no prompt for a password for things you do often.

However, you should have full access if you change your user's uid to 0.

As that point though, your user and root are mostly the same account.  You 
might as well just always login as root.  You can change the name of the 
root account fairly easily, by edit /etc/passwd (and associated shadow 
files).

As for the login issue, what are you using: xdm, gdm, kdm or other?
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Re: How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root) privileges?

[Daryl Styrk]

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Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:51:40 -0600
> "Brendan West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root)
>> privileges?  I thought that it was set up like that already, but I am
>> unable to start some programs under my normal account.  And for some
>> reason, I can't log onto the desktop gui as root.  Any ideas?
> 
> You shouldn't give your regular account root privileges, and you
> shouldn't log into the DE as root.  Use sudo for tasks requiring root
> privileges, or su into root.
> 
>> NinjaNife
> 
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Ditto



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Re: How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root) privileges?

[Celejar]

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:51:40 -0600
"Brendan West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root)
> privileges?  I thought that it was set up like that already, but I am
> unable to start some programs under my normal account.  And for some
> reason, I can't log onto the desktop gui as root.  Any ideas?

You shouldn't give your regular account root privileges, and you
shouldn't log into the DE as root.  Use sudo for tasks requiring root
privileges, or su into root.

> NinjaNife

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How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root) privileges?

[Brendan West]

How do I make my normal account (not root) have administrative (root)
privileges?  I thought that it was set up like that already, but I am
unable to start some programs under my normal account.  And for some
reason, I can't log onto the desktop gui as root.  Any ideas?

NinjaNife


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Re: 64-bit Flash Player

[Daryl Styrk]

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Girish Kulkarni wrote:
> Thanks for all your replies (and apologies for the delay in getting
> back from my end; I'd been away and without the Internet).  I tried
> using FlashPlayer 10 by copying its libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib64
> and symlinking it in /usr/lib64/iceweasel/plugins.  Didn't work.  I
> then tried keeping that file in various other locations like
> ~/.mozilla/plugins and ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins/ but that didn't
> work too.
> 
> Finally I also tried installing the plugin from the experimental
> repository.  But apt then asked me to include the sid main repository
> in sources.list too so that it could get the correct version of
> ndiswrapper.  Enabling sid main however made apt attempt to upgrade
> every piece of software in my Etch distribution!
> 
> Am I doing something wrong here?!
> 
> Thanks,
> Girish.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Girish Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Has anyone had any success in using the new 64-bit Adobe Flash player
>> for Linux on Debian? --
>>
>> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>>
>> I tried installing it on my x86_64 Etch machine but Iceweasel doesn't
>> seem to detect it. I followed the instructions gives on the player's
>> download page (all it involved was copying libflashplayer.so to
>> /usr/lib/mozilla).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Girish.
> 

I just did a fresh install.. So what I did was.

mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
and move the .so there.

get rid of any other instances of a previous flash install.

I did nothing else, didn't attempt to install anything else..  Works
like a charm here.



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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Celejar]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:20:33 +1100
Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 04:56:53PM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:53:47 -0800 (PST)
> > Arc Roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > That would be a terrible thing to happen, that any one could appropriate 
> > > your files to themselves.
> > 
> > I've been wondering about this; what would be the problem with the OS
> > allowing user1 to chown his files to user2, assuming we don't allow
> > this to occur with suid executables, of course.
> 
> umm
> 
> chown root 

Harmless unless root chooses to run it (in which case it would be a
problem regardless of which user he chown's it to), but I agree that
it's a problem waiting to happen.

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Re: 64-bit Flash Player

[Girish Kulkarni]

Thanks for all your replies (and apologies for the delay in getting
back from my end; I'd been away and without the Internet).  I tried
using FlashPlayer 10 by copying its libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib64
and symlinking it in /usr/lib64/iceweasel/plugins.  Didn't work.  I
then tried keeping that file in various other locations like
~/.mozilla/plugins and ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins/ but that didn't
work too.

Finally I also tried installing the plugin from the experimental
repository.  But apt then asked me to include the sid main repository
in sources.list too so that it could get the correct version of
ndiswrapper.  Enabling sid main however made apt attempt to upgrade
every piece of software in my Etch distribution!

Am I doing something wrong here?!

Thanks,
Girish.

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Girish Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone had any success in using the new 64-bit Adobe Flash player
> for Linux on Debian? --
>
> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>
> I tried installing it on my x86_64 Etch machine but Iceweasel doesn't
> seem to detect it. I followed the instructions gives on the player's
> download page (all it involved was copying libflashplayer.so to
> /usr/lib/mozilla).
>
> Thanks,
> Girish.

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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Alex Samad]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 04:56:53PM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:53:47 -0800 (PST)
> Arc Roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > That would be a terrible thing to happen, that any one could appropriate 
> > your files to themselves.
> 
> I've been wondering about this; what would be the problem with the OS
> allowing user1 to chown his files to user2, assuming we don't allow
> this to occur with suid executables, of course.

umm

chown root 

you could always use sudo with commands limited to chown user2

but 

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Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[Alex Samad]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 03:05:59PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 21:21:54 +0100,
>   Carlos Carrero Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
> > to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
> > can be not interactive (of course). 
> > 
> > Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a
> > paquet is correct or not.
> > 
> > Somebody could help me?

have a look at conntrackd and conntrack (debian packages)


> 
> Look at lsof if you are interested in what programs or users correspond to
> thos connections.
> If you are more interested in flows iptables uses state (at least if you
> are using --cstate) and there should be a way to dump that information.
> This will tell you about connectionless protocols that were recently
> used in addition to connections.
> 
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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 17:34, Micha Feigin wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:46:31 -0600
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 12/09/08 15:38, Micha Feigin wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:14:23 -0600
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]
And can't you tell DHCP to associate IP addresses to MAC addresses? 
  So even though OP doesn't want to use DHCP, he'd use it but not 
for it's usual purpose...



I can't use a dhcp server on this network. These machines are exposed to the
general network which already has a dhcp server and if I add another one I'm
going to cause trouble over the whole network.

Besides a dhcp server with the specific setup is going to be a serious pain.

The machines do have disks which are meant mostly for local user data. The
idea is to have as little as possible in terms of a system on each machine
to make it easier to maintain and keep safe from the users. Looks like the
easiest solution is to have grub and a kernel installed locally on each
machine.
The existing dhcp server could point the diskless machines to the 
machine that has the boot files on it.


Or would that entail too much bureaucracy and/or interference from 
know-nothing MSCEs?




It's a university departmental dhcp server, do you think that there is any
chance that I can convince them to do something like that ;-)


Depends on how ossified and/or ignorant they are.

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Re: Tying debsecan & Zabbix (or RT) together?

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 17:21, Richard Hartmann wrote:

Hi all,

I am wondering if anyone has created a script to feed debsecan
data into Zabbix. Alternatively, a solution with lets RT parse &
classify debsecan output would be great.


Zabbix being???


How are you handling this? Self-baked scripts to parse your
daily mail? Are you doing it by hand? Not at all?


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Re: the cost of ethernet bridging

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 09 December 2008, Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
about 'the cost of ethernet bridging':
>I was thinking of using ethernet bridging to simplify naming and routing
> on my system. This system consists of four computers all interconnected.
> The question is whether there is any hidden cost, as I need the cards to
> work at full throughput (three ethernet cards). So, will this just give
> me the same ip for all three cards or will it also start copying data
> from one port to the other?

I think you need to be more specific.

If your network is like:
* * *
 \|/
  *
(* = computer, /, | or \ = network cable)
ethernet bridging won't buy you much speed, but it won't hurt either.  
Normally a forwarded packet goes though the iptables stack, with ethernet 
bridging is goes though the lighter ebtables stack.  Turn off STP for 
maximum available bandwidth.

If It's more like:
*---*
|\ /|
| X |
|/ \|
*---*
(- = also network cable, X = two separate network cables)
bridging still won't hurt too much, but a solution involving OpenBGP [1] or 
something that routes around congestion would help.  It would allow up to 
3x max mic speed to travel between two nodes in an otherwise idle network.  
Using bridging, you'll need STP, you won't pool bandwidth across the 
multiple, non-overlapping links, but packets will still bypass iptables in 
favor of ebtables.

It could also be like:
+=+=+=+=+=+
|  \|/  | |
*   *   * *
(+ = switch port; '=' = switch backplane)
In which case bridging should not be used and instead bonding should be 
used if supported by the switch.  If bonding is not supported, you should 
use round-robin routing, I think.

I can see "four computers all interconnected" + "three network cards" as 
any of the above.

[1] OpenBGP might not be the best idea, as I think it works at the IP 
level.  You'd really want to pool the links at the ethernet layer but I 
don't think bridging will do everything you'd need for that.
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Re: rendering problem with iceweasel in sid

[Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 02:30:12PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2008-12-09 14:03 +0100, Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson wrote:
> 
> > The device section in my xorg.conf is
> >
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier  "Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics 
> > Controller"
> > Driver "i810"
> > BusID"PCI:0:2:0"
> > EndSection
> >
> > lspci says
> >
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated
> > Graphics Controller (rev 02)
> 
> Do you use EXA or XAA?  Many problems have been reported in the Intel
> video driver, the closest I could find for your problem is #491871¹.

Nope, neither of those options are set in my xorg.conf file.

> 
> > Default font in Iceweasel is serif according to Preferences -> Content
> 
> And what is used for serif (use the "Advanced..." button to see it)?

What it says there is:

Fonts for: Western

Proportional Serif Size 16
SerifSerif
Sans-serif   sans-serif
Monospacemonospace size 12

 Minimum font-size None

I have the "allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my
selection above" checked

Default character encoding is Western (ISO-8859-1)

Tia

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the cost of ethernet bridging

[Micha Feigin]

I was thinking of using ethernet bridging to simplify naming and routing on my
system. This system consists of four computers all interconnected. The question
is whether there is any hidden cost, as I need the cards to work at full
throughput (three ethernet cards). So, will this just give me the same ip for
all three cards or will it also start copying data from one port to the other?

Thanks


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Re: Video editing

[thveillon.debian]

Rodolfo Medina wrote :
>> "thveillon.debian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> "Lives" from debian-multimedia will do the job pretty well, decomposing
>> the video frame by frame before editing it, so you'll be able to achieve
>> good precision in your cuts.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately it doesn't seem to handle larger files, and I have one about 900
> MB big.
> 
> Rodolfo
> 
> 
Yep, for this kind of files use Cinelerra, you won't suffer any size or
format limitation, there's plenty of filters/text/effects available, and
it's not crashing too often those days...

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Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:32:02 -0200
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Carlos Carrero Gutierrez wrote:
> > Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
> > to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
> > can be not interactive (of course). 
> >
> > Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a
> > paquet is correct or not.
> >
> > Somebody could help me?
> >
> > Thank you very much, and sorry (i am doing crossposting)
> 
> netstat will show open connections. There are some options for filtering
> what is displayed and what is not, check the man page.
> 
> 

There is netstat -tulpen will show you open connections and by which program
(the program feature will only work if you run as root), but is not continuous,
i.e if you want an update you will need to run it again.


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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:46:31 -0600
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/09/08 15:38, Micha Feigin wrote:
> > On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:14:23 -0600
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> >> And can't you tell DHCP to associate IP addresses to MAC addresses? 
> >>   So even though OP doesn't want to use DHCP, he'd use it but not 
> >> for it's usual purpose...
> >>
> > 
> > I can't use a dhcp server on this network. These machines are exposed to the
> > general network which already has a dhcp server and if I add another one I'm
> > going to cause trouble over the whole network.
> > 
> > Besides a dhcp server with the specific setup is going to be a serious pain.
> > 
> > The machines do have disks which are meant mostly for local user data. The
> > idea is to have as little as possible in terms of a system on each machine
> > to make it easier to maintain and keep safe from the users. Looks like the
> > easiest solution is to have grub and a kernel installed locally on each
> > machine.
> 
> The existing dhcp server could point the diskless machines to the 
> machine that has the boot files on it.
> 
> Or would that entail too much bureaucracy and/or interference from 
> know-nothing MSCEs?
> 

It's a university departmental dhcp server, do you think that there is any
chance that I can convince them to do something like that ;-)


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Tying debsecan & Zabbix (or RT) together?

[Richard Hartmann]

Hi all,

I am wondering if anyone has created a script to feed debsecan
data into Zabbix. Alternatively, a solution with lets RT parse &
classify debsecan output would be great.

How are you handling this? Self-baked scripts to parse your
daily mail? Are you doing it by hand? Not at all?


Thanks :)
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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Scott Gifford]

Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 2008-12-09 22:56 +0100, Celejar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:53:47 -0800 (PST)
>> Arc Roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> That would be a terrible thing to happen, that any one could appropriate 
>>> your files to themselves.
>>
>> I've been wondering about this; what would be the problem with the OS
>> allowing user1 to chown his files to user2, assuming we don't allow
>> this to occur with suid executables, of course.
>
> It would be a DoS against user2 if disk quotas are used.

It would also make it impossible to identify which user had created a
file, which could be important if a file is a malicious program or
just very large.

-Scott.


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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Christopher Zimmermann]

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:03:38 +0100
Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2008-12-09 22:56 +0100, Celejar wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:53:47 -0800 (PST)
> > Arc Roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> That would be a terrible thing to happen, that any one could appropriate 
> >> your files to themselves.
> >
> > I've been wondering about this; what would be the problem with the OS
> > allowing user1 to chown his files to user2, assuming we don't allow
> > this to occur with suid executables, of course.
> 
> It would be a DoS against user2 if disk quotas are used.

Before diskquotas were introduced in BSD it was possible for a user to 
give away his files. A chown was possible if UID of user and file 
matched, but setuid and setgid were cleared on the file.

I read something about capabilities(7). CAP_CHMOD looks like a
solution. But I don't manage to change the capabilities on my files:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% sudo getpcaps $$   Capabilities for 
`25117': =eip 
cap_chown,cap_dac_override,cap_dac_read_search,cap_fowner,cap_fsetid,cap_kill,cap_setgid,cap_setuid,cap_setpcap,cap_linux_immutable,cap_net_bind_service,cap_net_broadcast,cap_net_admin,cap_net_raw,cap_ipc_lock,cap_ipc_owner,cap_sys_module,cap_sys_rawio,cap_sys_chroot,cap_sys_ptrace,cap_sys_pacct,cap_sys_admin,cap_sys_boot,cap_sys_nice,cap_sys_resource,cap_sys_time,cap_sys_tty_config,cap_mknod,cap_lease,cap_audit_write,cap_audit_control,cap_setfcap-eip
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% sudo setcap 'cap_chown=eip' foo
Failed to set capabilities on file `foo' (Operation not permitted)

Do I need special filesystem support for this to work? Or whats the 
matter?


Christopher


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Re: Converting a Flash Stream to MP3

[thveillon.debian]

Hal Vaughan a écrit :
> My favorite radio station is on the web, but their stream is through 
> Flash and not a standard MP3 stream that most stations have.  Is there 
> some way I can access this without going through a browser with Flash 
> and convert it to an MP3 stream for my LAN?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> 
> Hal
> 
Hi, vlc will do that easily from it's gui, just choose "open" and
"network stream" (or anything it's called in your language, my vlc
speaks French...), enter the stream details then hit "alt + s" for the
stream dialog, or if you want to save the output for later streaming
"alt + c" to open the "convert and save" dialog. Choose the output file
and your codec settings.
FYI I am using vlc 0.9.6-1 from Debian experimental, might be different
in earlier versions.

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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 2008 December 09 16:21:54 Scott Gifford wrote:
>Christopher Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Hi!
>>
>> On my debian box using linux kernel its not possible to give away files,
>> only root can change file owners. Is it possible to configure this
>> behaviour and allow all users to chown their own files?
>
>As others have mentioned, normally this is a bad idea.  But if you
>have a specialized need for it, you can write a small program to open
>the file, check the owner with fstat, then change the owner with
>fchown.  If you install this program setuid it will let you give this
>capability to your users.
>
>If you used this approach, you would need to take great care in
>writing the program so it doesn't allow users to give away others'
>files.

While your technique is effective, it might be better to modify the existing 
chmod source.  Otherwise you lose (or have to re-implement) all the nice 
features like -R.  Do it right, (including handling the case where chown 
isn't suid, as well as various security issues) and you might be able to get 
upstream to accept it, as an option 
(e.g. ./configure --with-restricted-chown-override-when-suid-root).
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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Celejar]

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:03:38 +0100
Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2008-12-09 22:56 +0100, Celejar wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:53:47 -0800 (PST)
> > Arc Roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> That would be a terrible thing to happen, that any one could appropriate 
> >> your files to themselves.
> >
> > I've been wondering about this; what would be the problem with the OS
> > allowing user1 to chown his files to user2, assuming we don't allow
> > this to occur with suid executables, of course.
> 
> It would be a DoS against user2 if disk quotas are used.

Good point.  I suppose that danger will also exist if user2 has any
file at all that is world writable.  Running 'find  ~ -perm  /o+w -type
f' seems to indicate that I don't have any, so I guess I'm safe ...

> Sven

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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Scott Gifford]

Christopher Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi!
>
> On my debian box using linux kernel its not possible to give away files:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% touch foo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% chown otheruser foo
> chown: changing ownership of `foo': Operation not permitted
>
> only root can change file owners. Is it possible to configure this
> behaviour and allow all users to chown their own files? I read this was
> possible on solaris and several other unices and wonder if it is
> possible with linux.

As others have mentioned, normally this is a bad idea.  But if you
have a specialized need for it, you can write a small program to open
the file, check the owner with fstat, then change the owner with
fchown.  If you install this program setuid it will let you give this
capability to your users.

If you just need this for particular application, it could check if
the files match some other criteria, like being in the right
directory.

If you used this approach, you would need to take great care in
writing the program so it doesn't allow users to give away others'
files.

-Scott.


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Re: Video editing

[Rodolfo Medina]

On 12/09/08 13:31, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut
 off and select pieces of a video file.

 Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that?


Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Try gopchop.


Thanks!  It seems to work perfectly.  But now I need also to append two video
files one another.  What I'm trying to do is to select pieces from a dvd.

Thanks for further help
Rodolfo


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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2008-12-09 22:56 +0100, Celejar wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:53:47 -0800 (PST)
> Arc Roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> That would be a terrible thing to happen, that any one could appropriate 
>> your files to themselves.
>
> I've been wondering about this; what would be the problem with the OS
> allowing user1 to chown his files to user2, assuming we don't allow
> this to occur with suid executables, of course.

It would be a DoS against user2 if disk quotas are used.

Sven


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Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[Sjors Gielen]

Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 21:21:54 +0100,
>   Carlos Carrero Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
>> to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
>> can be not interactive (of course). 
>>
>> Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a
>> paquet is correct or not.
>>
>> Somebody could help me?
> 
> Look at lsof if you are interested in what programs or users correspond to
> thos connections.
> If you are more interested in flows iptables uses state (at least if you
> are using --cstate) and there should be a way to dump that information.
> This will tell you about connectionless protocols that were recently
> used in addition to connections.

When we're using netstat anyway, I'd suggest netstat -p for that.

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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Celejar]

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:53:47 -0800 (PST)
Arc Roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That would be a terrible thing to happen, that any one could appropriate your 
> files to themselves.

I've been wondering about this; what would be the problem with the OS
allowing user1 to chown his files to user2, assuming we don't allow
this to occur with suid executables, of course.

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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 11:38:39PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:

> I can't use a dhcp server on this network. These machines are exposed to the
> general network which already has a dhcp server and if I add another one I'm
> going to cause trouble over the whole network.

Etherboot and others support using port 1067 for the DHCP server, if 
you're in a network with a hostile DHCP server.

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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Arc Roca]

That would be a terrible thing to happen, that any one could appropriate your 
files to themselves.
The other user could copy your file if you set it through chmod properly, and 
therefore the problem would be solved. 

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From: Christopher Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unrestrict chown?
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 4:40 PM

Hi!

On my debian box using linux kernel its not possible to give away files:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% touch foo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% chown otheruser foo
chown: changing ownership of `foo': Operation not permitted

only root can change file owners. Is it possible to configure this
behaviour and allow all users to chown their own files? I read this was
possible on solaris and several other unices and wonder if it is
possible with linux.


Christopher



  

Re: Video editing

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 16:29, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

On 12/09/08 13:31, Rodolfo Medina wrote:


I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut
off and select pieces of a video file.

Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that?



Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Try gopchop.



Thanks!  It seems to work perfectly.  But now I need also to append two video
files one another.  What I'm trying to do is to select pieces from a dvd.


I *think* that plain old cat will successfully join them.

$ cat f1.mpeg f2.mpeg > big.mpeg

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Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 2008 December 09 14:21:54 Carlos Carrero Gutierrez wrote:
>Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
>to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
>can be not interactive (of course).

Besides netstat, which was already mentioned, I've also seen iptraf used a 
bit.
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Re: Xen kernel and make-kpkg

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 01:53:58PM +0100, Stefan Goebel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to build a custom Xen (DomU for now) kernel using the Debian
> sources (i.e. linux-source-2.6.26 (2.6.26-11) with Debian's Xen patches
> from linux-patch-debian-2.6.26 (2.6.26-11)) and kernel-package (11.015),
> on an i386 system running Lenny.

Aren't there pre-built kernel packages with those Xen patches?

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Re: Unrestrict chown?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2008-12-09 22:40 +0100, Christopher Zimmermann wrote:

> On my debian box using linux kernel its not possible to give away files:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% touch foo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% chown otheruser foo
> chown: changing ownership of `foo': Operation not permitted
>
> only root can change file owners. Is it possible to configure this
> behaviour and allow all users to chown their own files?

No.

> I read this was possible on solaris and several other unices and
> wonder if it is possible with linux.

This is deliberately not possible.

Sven


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Re: Problem compiling in amd64

[Eugene V. Lyubimkin]

Jesus arteche wrote:
> hey,
> 
> I'm compiling a mod for apache ...and i discover that it is designed jus
> for x86 not for amd64...and i get this error :
> 
>  relocation R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when
> making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
> mod_waklog.o: could not read symbols: Bad value
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> apxs:Error: Command failed with rc=65536
> 
> I found some help in their web...but the help is just for RH...someone
> know how to to do it in debian...thats the trick:
> 
> edit src/cf/osconf.m4 to set CCOBJ to -fPIC for whatever platform you
> have (amd64_linux26?)
This is not a trick, this is a solution. Find top-level Makefile (or some its 
source it is
generated from) and add '-fPIC' to CFLAGS variable.

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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 15:38, Micha Feigin wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:14:23 -0600
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]
And can't you tell DHCP to associate IP addresses to MAC addresses? 
  So even though OP doesn't want to use DHCP, he'd use it but not 
for it's usual purpose...




I can't use a dhcp server on this network. These machines are exposed to the
general network which already has a dhcp server and if I add another one I'm
going to cause trouble over the whole network.

Besides a dhcp server with the specific setup is going to be a serious pain.

The machines do have disks which are meant mostly for local user data. The idea
is to have as little as possible in terms of a system on each machine to make
it easier to maintain and keep safe from the users. Looks like the easiest
solution is to have grub and a kernel installed locally on each machine.


The existing dhcp server could point the diskless machines to the 
machine that has the boot files on it.


Or would that entail too much bureaucracy and/or interference from 
know-nothing MSCEs?


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Unrestrict chown?

[Christopher Zimmermann]

Hi!

On my debian box using linux kernel its not possible to give away files:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% touch foo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% chown otheruser foo
chown: changing ownership of `foo': Operation not permitted

only root can change file owners. Is it possible to configure this
behaviour and allow all users to chown their own files? I read this was
possible on solaris and several other unices and wonder if it is
possible with linux.


Christopher


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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:14:23 -0600
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/09/08 13:47, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On Tuesday 2008 December 09 11:49:42 Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 12/09/08 11:25, Micha Feigin wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:27:28 -0600
> >>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  On 12/09/08 09:58, Micha Feigin wrote:
> > I want to setup three machines to boot over the network from an nfs
> > root. The network doesn't have a dhcp server (I prefer if it's possible
> > to do it without one) and the network card is only supported with newer
> > kernels (2.6.28-rc).
> >
> > Is there a way to do it through grub or do I need to setup a minimal
> > system and boot from it?
> >
> > Any pointers on how to set this up?
>  PXE boot seems like what you want, where the client's NIC requests
>  the boot files from the server.
> 
>  Or am I misunderstanding your questions?
> >>> Yes, theoretically that is what I want, but if I'm not mistaken PXE boot
> >>> is dependent on a dhcp server giving the machine an IP and declaring that
> >>> it has a boot image to provide, or am I wrong.
> >>>
> >>> I want to give the ip as an option and use a given nfs server as a root,
> >>> not resolve these values at run time
> >> Hmmm, yes, you're right.  There's got to be a way, though, using
> >> bootp, MAC address and tftp, since that's how we did it 10 years ago
> >> with X Terminals.
> > 
> > DHCP is an extension to bootp.  Anything you were doing with bootp 10 years 
> > ago should be done with DHCP today.  IIRC, dhcpd from ISC can do bootp 
> > without the DHCP extensions.
> > 
> > And, yeah, for a full PXE boot, you will need a TFTP server on the
> > network. (It could be the DHCP server, but doesn't have to be.)  I could be
> > wrong, but I believe that PXE is actually proprietary Intel extensions to
> > and older, standard "netboot" protocol.
> > 
> > If you just want NFS root, it's suppored by the kernel, I think something
> > like root=IP:/path, but you'll need some storage in the clients for the 
> > bootloader, kernel image, and initrd (if any).
> > 
> > If you want the kernel image and initrd loaded from the network, you'll
> > need a DHCP server that responds to requests with the IP of the TFTP server
> > (as path to the file?).  That response will have to include some IP
> > address, possibly with a very short lease, that the client will use during
> > the TFTP download. This IP can, of course, be overridden with configuration
> > in the kernel/initrd.
> > 
> > You can do both and, if the client needs access to more data than fits in
> > RAM, you'll need to.  The kernel/initrd will be loaded from the TFTP server 
> > specified in the DHCP response.  The initrd will then mount the NFS root 
> > filesystem and chroot/switch_root/pivot_root into it.
> 
> And can't you tell DHCP to associate IP addresses to MAC addresses? 
>   So even though OP doesn't want to use DHCP, he'd use it but not 
> for it's usual purpose...
> 

I can't use a dhcp server on this network. These machines are exposed to the
general network which already has a dhcp server and if I add another one I'm
going to cause trouble over the whole network.

Besides a dhcp server with the specific setup is going to be a serious pain.

The machines do have disks which are meant mostly for local user data. The idea
is to have as little as possible in terms of a system on each machine to make
it easier to maintain and keep safe from the users. Looks like the easiest
solution is to have grub and a kernel installed locally on each machine.


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gnome-system-tools cannot access system configuration

[Andreas Schroth]

Hello,

recently I noticed that gnome-system-tools like e.g. users-admin no longer 
work on my system. In all cases the error messages states that the 
configuration cannot be accessed. This happens even if I log in as root.

I checked the permissions of the executables. They seem to be allright. 
Adding a new user with the appropriate kde-tool works, but not with the 
gnome-tool.

I run lenny with kernel 2.6.26-1-amd64.

Any hint is appreciated.

Thanks,
Andreas


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Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/12/9 Carlos Carrero Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
> to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
> can be not interactive (of course).
>
> Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a
> paquet is correct or not.
>
> Somebody could help me?
>
> Thank you very much, and sorry (i am doing crossposting).
>

Here is a great Wireshark tutorial:
http://www.chrissanders.org/?p=47

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Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/12/9 Carlos Carrero Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
> to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
> can be not interactive (of course).
>
> Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a
> paquet is correct or not.
>
> Somebody could help me?
>
> Thank you very much, and sorry (i am doing crossposting).
>

I think that you forgot to cross post to the Suse and Gentoo lists.

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Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 21:21:54 +0100,
  Carlos Carrero Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
> to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
> can be not interactive (of course). 
> 
> Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a
> paquet is correct or not.
> 
> Somebody could help me?

Look at lsof if you are interested in what programs or users correspond to
thos connections.
If you are more interested in flows iptables uses state (at least if you
are using --cstate) and there should be a way to dump that information.
This will tell you about connectionless protocols that were recently
used in addition to connections.


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Re: Dhcp and dns update

[Alex Samad]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 11:09:51AM +0100, Jesus arteche wrote:
> hey,
> 
> I have a dhcp server and a bind9 installed in my server...both works
> perfectly...but now i want teh dhcp server update the bind... i think my
> conf its right but it doesnt work...my conf files

You need to tell dhcpd which key to use to update bind.  Notice you have
defined a key to allow for updates in the allow update statement, you
also have a key called TRANSFER, you need to tell dhcpd about the update
key.


you can use nsupdate to test

a

> 
> dhcp.conf

[snip]

> 
> 
> include "/etc/bind/rndc.key";
> 
> key "TRANSFER" {
> algorithm hmac-md5;
> secret "FCi9fs/xGz/61FX3GTX8fw==";
> };
> 

[snip]

> zone ".es" {
> type master;
> file "/etc/bind/zones/master_x.es";
> allow-update { key "rndc-key"; };
> notify yes;
> };
> zone "." IN{
>type slave;
>file "/etc/bind/db.root";

[snip]

> 
> In the file dhcpd.leases not appear any leases.
> someone knows what is wrong?
> 
> thanks

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Re: Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux)

[lee]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 06:00:34PM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> lee wrote:
> > Exim4 is another example. I can configure it easily bypassing the
> > automatic configuration, but I'm unable to configure it using the
> > auomatic configuration.
> 
> Well, you can't, but other people can (at least one, ie, me). It's a
> matter of preference, and Debian respects that.

It doesn't ask you what you prefer.

> > Well, where is the option to have the automatic configuration create a
> > single configuration file that you can easily check and then use to
> > configure your program if you want to
> 
> It's explained in the README.Debian file, which contains all the details
> about how exim works in Debian and the peculiarities relevant to this
> distribution.

Where does it explain how to use the automatic configuration to create
a single configuration file? Where does it explain how to use the
automatic configuration to create a single configuration file that has
the exact same options I'm using now?

And it's another readme I won't have to read if they hadn't changed
the way exim is configured from exim3 to exim4.


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Converting a Flash Stream to MP3

[Hal Vaughan]

My favorite radio station is on the web, but their stream is through 
Flash and not a standard MP3 stream that most stations have.  Is there 
some way I can access this without going through a browser with Flash 
and convert it to an MP3 stream for my LAN?

Thanks for any suggestions.


Hal

Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 2008 December 09 14:14:23 Ron Johnson wrote:
>Can't you tell DHCP to associate IP addresses to MAC addresses?

I suppose it depends on the server software, but dhcpd from ISC certainly 
provides that feature though the "fixed-address" and "hardware" directives.
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Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[JDaniel Jimenez]

What about "netstat -nputa | grep ESTABLISHED"?. If I have understood
correctly, that is what you need.

rgr

2008/12/9 Carlos Carrero Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
> to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
> can be not interactive (of course).
>
> Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a
> paquet is correct or not.
>
> Somebody could help me?
>
> Thank you very much, and sorry (i am doing crossposting).
>
>
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Re: Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux)

[lee]

On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 05:10:06PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Sunday 07 December 2008, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: 
> Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean 
> registry in Linux)':
> >On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 03:42:42AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> >> On Saturday 2008 December 06 02:03, lee wrote:
> >> > On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:45:28AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. 
> wrote:
> >> > > I disagree with this.  It should be possible to establish "hooks"
> >> > > so that the administrator should not ever have to edit an installed
> >> > > file, but instead place additional or overriding instructions in a
> >> > > separate file which the packages manager would not read or modify.
> >> >
> >> > How exactly would that work?
> >>
> >> There are lots of ways to do this, but it basically boils down to
> >> having a distribution/upstream provided configuration and locally
> >> provided configuration.  This is actually ALWAYS the case, as the
> >> source code has some default behavior
> >
> >Yes, I guess you have to have something in the source to compile it. I
> >don't really consider that as "configuration", though.
> 
> But it is.  It's the underlying "defaults" that 1) your configuration 
> alters and 2) could change the same way a distribution-provided 
> configuration might.

You have a program that does (or does not) something. Then you can (or
can not) configure it to do something else. Or you can change the
program.

> >> When the program only reads from a single file, it's difficult to
> >> separate distribution settings from locally administered settings,
> >> even though those are two different things.
> >
> >It's the configuration of a program, not two different things.
> 
> It is.  They are maintained by two separate entities.  Just like the 
> default behavior is maintained by the original author and the 
> configuration is maintained by others.

It's the same thing, i. e. configuring a program. There may be
different configurations and different ways to configure it.

> >When a program uses a number of different configuration files, it's
> >much more difficult for the administrator to configure it.
> 
> I completely disagree here.  Your specific examples, apache2 and exim4 
> simply convince me further that you are wrong.  I maintain a exim4 
> installation and multiple apache2 installations and I greatly prefer 
> separated files to a single file.
> 
> It's easier to work with that way, not harder.

Well, it's not.

> >As you want or need to
> >distinguish the administrators configuration from the package
> >managers, that could (better) be done by having different sections in
> >the configuration file or by some other way to have and keep the
> >package managers configuration within the file together with what the
> >administrator has set up.
> 
> No, separate files is better, since files are already a natural unit.  'rm 
> my.conf' (and leaving debian.conf) is easier than editing a single file to 
> remove local changes.

That might be easier or not, but configuring a program involves not
only removing something. It involves knowing the configuration,
knowing what options are available and knowing how to change them. The
automatic configuration of apache2 and exim4 makes this extremely
difficult. It turns "knowing the configuration" into a puzzle with no
way of putting it together to see the whole picture. It turns "knowing
what options are available" into a puzzle of juggling with many
different pieces, also without a way to put them together to see the
whole picture, and it adds another level of difficulty by eventually
forcing you to find more pieces in various documentation --- pieces
that otherwise would be readily available within the configuration
file as comments. It turns "knowing how to change" options into having
to to try to figure out how to use the automatic configuration --- and
that alone is extremely annoying because you can't just configure one
thing (the program you're about to configure) and focus on that, but
instead you have to "configure" an automatic configuration at the same
time while you don't want to have to deal with that.

There is nothing easier or better about that, not for the one who
tries to configure a program. It only makes it much more difficult. It
might make it easier for programs to configure programs, but for every
case in which you need to do it yourself anyway, adding complexity and
difficulty doesn't make it easier.

> >> When/where the defaults work administrators have no worries, the
> >> package maintainer updates the conffiles as needed.  When the
> >> defaults don't work, you get the dpkg prompt, which is usually
> >> enough; administrators that have made changes keep their old file,
> >> until they see an incompatable change (e.g. in the conffile format)
> >> and then have to rebuild their configuration.  At this point they'd
> >> generally have to rebuild their configuration anyw

creative xmod sound card

[Arc Roca]

Has anybody been able to use creative xmod usb sound card?, I am having a tough 
time trying to make it work. It recognizes it if you plug/unplug it, even the 
volume buttom works (in the sense that the applet shows the master going up or 
down, to the other sound card) but if you try to use it with say, aplay -d Xmod 
song.ogg, it will not work.



  

Problem compiling in amd64

[Jesus arteche]

hey,

I'm compiling a mod for apache ...and i discover that it is designed jus for
x86 not for amd64...and i get this error :

 relocation R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when
making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
mod_waklog.o: could not read symbols: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
apxs:Error: Command failed with rc=65536

I found some help in their web...but the help is just for RH...someone know
how to to do it in debian...thats the trick:

edit src/cf/osconf.m4 to set CCOBJ to -fPIC for whatever platform you
have (amd64_linux26?)

If someone knows another trick is welcomed.

thanks

Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[Jeff D]

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Carlos Carrero Gutierrez wrote:

> Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
> to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
> can be not interactive (of course).
>
> Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a
> paquet is correct or not.
>
> Somebody could help me?
>
> Thank you very much, and sorry (i am doing crossposting).
>
>
>

lsof will do what you want, for example to see all open connections
on port 80:
lsof -i:80 -n


hth,
Jeff


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Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

Carlos Carrero Gutierrez wrote:
> Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
> to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
> can be not interactive (of course). 
>
> Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a
> paquet is correct or not.
>
> Somebody could help me?
>
> Thank you very much, and sorry (i am doing crossposting)

netstat will show open connections. There are some options for filtering
what is displayed and what is not, check the man page.


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Re: building entire Lenny from source

[Javier Barroso]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to build the whole of Lenny from source and am looking for
> advice on the easiest tools to use. I looked at pbuilder and rebuildd
> and nearly had a headache. Are there tutorials out there?

Did you take a look at apt-build ? (http://packages.debian.org/lenny/apt-build)

Regards


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pulseaudio: working in Testing and Unstable

[H.S.]

Hello,

Just restarting this discussion again.

I had earlier written about how pulseaudio was a pita when installing on
Debian. Well, since I have had an opportunity to install it on Ubuntu
and get it working. After that experience, I revisited it on Debain
Testing, and followed the same steps and it worked great! Next, I was
able to make it work on Debain Unstable as well.

Now youtube is working, BBC vidoes are working, skype is working, etc.
Haven't tried audacity yet.

I can change the output device from pulseaudio's device chooser. The
applet is working nicely in KDE. However, in KDE's sound system, ESD
needs to be selected for pulseaudio to work.

Just my few cents.

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I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs

[Carlos Carrero Gutierrez]

Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order
to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it
can be not interactive (of course). 

Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a
paquet is correct or not.

Somebody could help me?

Thank you very much, and sorry (i am doing crossposting).


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Re: Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux)

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 2008 December 09 13:33:19 lee wrote:
>On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 08:24:45PM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>> From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> > When a program uses a number of different configuration files, it's
>> > much more difficult for the administrator to configure it.
>>
>> I'd say it's a matter of preference. I like exim's split configuration.
>
>Well, I don't like it.

So, you clearly agree with Eduardo.  It's a matter of preference.  Oddly 
enough, exim4-config provides the option of split or single.

>Using a single configuration file, you as well 
>only need to deal with the parts that need to be changed. But you
>would know what is configured and what needs to be changed which is
>impossible with the automatic configuration.

It's also impossible for exim4 for work immediately after installation without 
an automatic configuration.  Packages need to work immediate after 
installation so that other packages can use them during their installation.

Distribution-shipped configuration files aren't going away.  Perhaps they 
should be moved to somewhere you don't see them -- like /usr/share -- and 
then overridden with your configuration in /etc, but they aren't going away.  
If you want to use your version of the configuration file, but tell dpkg not 
to use the maintainer's version; it'll ask you before replacing files marked 
as conffiles.

>> For those who prefer a single file, debconf allows that, satisfying all
>> kinds of people. You can even dump debconf altogether and do all the
>> configuration yourself.
>
>Yes, it's good to have a choice. The problem is that the choice
>eventually gets taken away.

How so?  While I would don't see myself using single-file exim4 configurations 
in the future, I certainly think it should be an option.  I used to 
use /etc/apt/sources.list.d, but now I think I prefer 
the /etc/apt/sources.list approach.  It's supposed by more programs and my 
list never gets over 24 lines anyway.

>> > Just
>> > packages like exim4 or apache2 that use an approach which makes it
>> > very difficult to impossible for the administrator to configure them
>> > break it.
>>
>> That's your opinion. Do not take it as absolute.
>
>It's a matter of fact.

No, it's not.  It's opinion.  I found configuring apache2 on Debian easier 
than Gentoo or FC particularly because it was split up *well*.  I even split 
up my configuration across multiple files.  It's nice to be able to disable 
just a single site with a single command (okay, two; apache2 has to reload 
the configuration) rather than commenting out multiple set of lines and 
hoping I've got it all.

>You can try it by, for example, installing php 
>for apache2. You're not being told what needs to be done with the
>apache2 config, it gets modified automatically. Then you find that it
>doesn't work, not before restarting apache2 manually.

Done it, for running Drupal.  Yes, I had to ask apache to re-read it's 
configuration files.  That's about it, and I was expecting that.

>Exim4 is another example. I can configure it easily bypassing the
>automatic configuration, but I'm unable to configure it using the
>auomatic configuration. What about changes if you use the automatic
>configuration? Would you be told what is being changed? Or would your
>mailserver suddenly be configured differently without you even knowing
>about it?

You are basically worried about the behavior you haven't specified changing. 

Unfortunately, even with a single file that can happen due to changes in the 
source code.  If you need specific behavior, don't default to it, explicitly 
specify it.

Personally, I only needed to tweak things in the exim4 configuration, so most 
(maybe all) of my changes were adding files to the existing directory 
structure.  The split in to multiple files made it easier to work with.

>> I don't know about apache, but as I said, with exim it's quite easy
>> to use a single file, if you prefer it that way.
>
>Well, where is the option to have the automatic configuration create a
>single configuration file that you can easily check and then use to
>configure your program if you want to?

Do you mean specifically for exim4?  I think the option to use a single file 
is the first or second question asked by dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config.
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Re: Video editing

[Arc Roca]

Use ffmpeg, it allows you to select the start-time and end-time of cut you 
need. First do ffmpeg -i file.avi , it will tell you the info about vthe 
original file. Go from there.
man ffmpeg

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From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Video editing
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 3:15 PM

On 12/09/08 13:31, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Rodolfo Medina a écrit :
> 
>>> I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in
general, cut off
>>> and select pieces of a video file.
>>> 
>>> Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does
that?
> 
> 
> 
> "thveillon.debian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> 
>> "Lives" from debian-multimedia will do the job pretty well,
decomposing
>> the video frame by frame before editing it, so you'll be able to
achieve
>> good precision in your cuts.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately it doesn't seem to handle larger files, and I have one
about 900
> MB big.

Try gopchop.

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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Rick Thomas]

On Dec 9, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:

Yes, theoretically that is what I want, but if I'm not mistaken  
PXE boot is
dependent on a dhcp server giving the machine an IP and declaring  
that it has

a boot image to provide, or am I wrong.
I want to give the ip as an option and use a given nfs server as a  
root, not

resolve these values at run time


Hmmm, yes, you're right.  There's got to be a way, though, using  
bootp, MAC address and tftp, since that's how we did it 10 years  
ago with X Terminals.


Setting up a DHCP server that does exactly what your bootp server did  
10 years ago is not that hard.


DHCP doesn't *have* to assign IP addresses from a dynamic pool.  It  
can have fixed IP addresses for each of the MAC addresses you want to  
serve, and refuse to supply anything for unknown MACs.


Total time to install the DHCP server software, read the  
documentation, and configure the setup should be no more than a few  
hours.  At least, that's how long it took me to do an equivalent  
setup for my home network.


Rick


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Re: Video editing

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 13:31, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Rodolfo Medina a écrit :


I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut off
and select pieces of a video file.

Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that?




"thveillon.debian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


"Lives" from debian-multimedia will do the job pretty well, decomposing
the video frame by frame before editing it, so you'll be able to achieve
good precision in your cuts.



Unfortunately it doesn't seem to handle larger files, and I have one about 900
MB big.


Try gopchop.

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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 13:47, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Tuesday 2008 December 09 11:49:42 Ron Johnson wrote:

On 12/09/08 11:25, Micha Feigin wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:27:28 -0600
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 12/09/08 09:58, Micha Feigin wrote:

I want to setup three machines to boot over the network from an nfs
root. The network doesn't have a dhcp server (I prefer if it's possible
to do it without one) and the network card is only supported with newer
kernels (2.6.28-rc).

Is there a way to do it through grub or do I need to setup a minimal
system and boot from it?

Any pointers on how to set this up?

PXE boot seems like what you want, where the client's NIC requests
the boot files from the server.

Or am I misunderstanding your questions?

Yes, theoretically that is what I want, but if I'm not mistaken PXE boot
is dependent on a dhcp server giving the machine an IP and declaring that
it has a boot image to provide, or am I wrong.

I want to give the ip as an option and use a given nfs server as a root,
not resolve these values at run time

Hmmm, yes, you're right.  There's got to be a way, though, using
bootp, MAC address and tftp, since that's how we did it 10 years ago
with X Terminals.


DHCP is an extension to bootp.  Anything you were doing with bootp 10 years 
ago should be done with DHCP today.  IIRC, dhcpd from ISC can do bootp 
without the DHCP extensions.


And, yeah, for a full PXE boot, you will need a TFTP server on the network.  
(It could be the DHCP server, but doesn't have to be.)  I could be wrong, but 
I believe that PXE is actually proprietary Intel extensions to and older, 
standard "netboot" protocol.


If you just want NFS root, it's suppored by the kernel, I think something like 
root=IP:/path, but you'll need some storage in the clients for the 
bootloader, kernel image, and initrd (if any).


If you want the kernel image and initrd loaded from the network, you'll need a 
DHCP server that responds to requests with the IP of the TFTP server (as path 
to the file?).  That response will have to include some IP address, possibly 
with a very short lease, that the client will use during the TFTP download.  
This IP can, of course, be overridden with configuration in the 
kernel/initrd.


You can do both and, if the client needs access to more data than fits in RAM, 
you'll need to.  The kernel/initrd will be loaded from the TFTP server 
specified in the DHCP response.  The initrd will then mount the NFS root 
filesystem and chroot/switch_root/pivot_root into it.


And can't you tell DHCP to associate IP addresses to MAC addresses? 
 So even though OP doesn't want to use DHCP, he'd use it but not 
for it's usual purpose...


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Re: building entire Lenny from source

[Mike McCarty]

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to build the whole of Lenny from source and am looking for
advice on the easiest tools to use. I looked at pbuilder and rebuildd
and nearly had a headache. Are there tutorials out there?


May I suggest Linux From Scratch?

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

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Re: Building kernels the Debian way

[Sven Joachim]

On 2008-12-09 20:02 +0100, lee wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 10:22:51PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> 
>> > Create new default link to new source code 
>> 
>> This is absolutely unnecessary and maybe even harmful.  Read the README
>> in the Linux kernel tree why you should not do it.
>
> The NVIDIA driver doesn't install when it wants to compile a kernel
> module and you don't have the source in the default location.

Well, in the Debian package you are supposed to set MODULE_LOC if you
are not building the module in /usr/src.  Doesn't that work with
make-kpkg?

> "
>Do NOT use the /usr/src/linux area! This area has a (usually
>incomplete) set of kernel headers that are used by the library header
>files.  They should match the library, and not get messed up by
>whatever the kernel-du-jour happens to be.
> "
>
>
> Who or what puts header files into /user/src/linux? It didn't exist
> before I created it.

Nobody, hopefully.  But some mad people (and old distributions!)  create
symlinks from /usr/include to /usr/src/linux/include.  That way lies
madness, see e.g. http://linuxgazette.net/issue62/tag/4.html.

Sven


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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 2008 December 09 11:49:42 Ron Johnson wrote:
>On 12/09/08 11:25, Micha Feigin wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:27:28 -0600
>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On 12/09/08 09:58, Micha Feigin wrote:
 I want to setup three machines to boot over the network from an nfs
 root. The network doesn't have a dhcp server (I prefer if it's possible
 to do it without one) and the network card is only supported with newer
 kernels (2.6.28-rc).

 Is there a way to do it through grub or do I need to setup a minimal
 system and boot from it?

 Any pointers on how to set this up?
>>>
>>> PXE boot seems like what you want, where the client's NIC requests
>>> the boot files from the server.
>>>
>>> Or am I misunderstanding your questions?
>>
>> Yes, theoretically that is what I want, but if I'm not mistaken PXE boot
>> is dependent on a dhcp server giving the machine an IP and declaring that
>> it has a boot image to provide, or am I wrong.
>>
>> I want to give the ip as an option and use a given nfs server as a root,
>> not resolve these values at run time
>
>Hmmm, yes, you're right.  There's got to be a way, though, using
>bootp, MAC address and tftp, since that's how we did it 10 years ago
>with X Terminals.

DHCP is an extension to bootp.  Anything you were doing with bootp 10 years 
ago should be done with DHCP today.  IIRC, dhcpd from ISC can do bootp 
without the DHCP extensions.

And, yeah, for a full PXE boot, you will need a TFTP server on the network.  
(It could be the DHCP server, but doesn't have to be.)  I could be wrong, but 
I believe that PXE is actually proprietary Intel extensions to and older, 
standard "netboot" protocol.

If you just want NFS root, it's suppored by the kernel, I think something like 
root=IP:/path, but you'll need some storage in the clients for the 
bootloader, kernel image, and initrd (if any).

If you want the kernel image and initrd loaded from the network, you'll need a 
DHCP server that responds to requests with the IP of the TFTP server (as path 
to the file?).  That response will have to include some IP address, possibly 
with a very short lease, that the client will use during the TFTP download.  
This IP can, of course, be overridden with configuration in the 
kernel/initrd.

You can do both and, if the client needs access to more data than fits in RAM, 
you'll need to.  The kernel/initrd will be loaded from the TFTP server 
specified in the DHCP response.  The initrd will then mount the NFS root 
filesystem and chroot/switch_root/pivot_root into it.
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Re: Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux)

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

lee wrote:
> Exim4 is another example. I can configure it easily bypassing the
> automatic configuration, but I'm unable to configure it using the
> auomatic configuration.

Well, you can't, but other people can (at least one, ie, me). It's a
matter of preference, and Debian respects that.

> Well, where is the option to have the automatic configuration create a
> single configuration file that you can easily check and then use to
> configure your program if you want to

It's explained in the README.Debian file, which contains all the details
about how exim works in Debian and the peculiarities relevant to this
distribution.



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Re: Video editing

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo Medina wrote: 

>>> I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut off
>>> and select pieces of a video file.
>>> 
>>> Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that?


JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Avidemux.


Rodolfo:

> Thanks, this works, but the audio is eliminated!  Anyone can help about why
> this happens and to work it out?  Even when trying to play the original file,
> avidemux claims that there is `trouble initialising audio device', whereas
> Mplayer plays it without problems.  What can I do?



Olivier Deckers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It is normal that there is no sound during the editing. After exporting the
> video, there should be sound.



In Avidemux, after editing the file, I save it.  Then I play it with Mplayer
and there's no sound.

Rodolfo


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Re: Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux)

[lee]

On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 08:24:45PM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > When a program uses a number of different configuration files, it's
> > much more difficult for the administrator to configure it.
> 
> I'd say it's a matter of preference. I like exim's split configuration, it 
> makes upgrades easier as I only have to deal with the parts that I've 
> changed. And perhaps not even that, if I can make a change by adding a new 
> snippet file instead of changing an existing one.

Well, I don't like it, it would make configuring exim impossible if I
couldn't bypass it. Using a single configuration file, you as well
only need to deal with the parts that need to be changed. But you
would know what is configured and what needs to be changed which is
impossible with the automatic configuration.

> For those who prefer a single file, debconf allows that, satisfying all 
> kinds of people. You can even dump debconf altogether and do all the 
> configuration yourself.

Yes, it's good to have a choice. The problem is that the choice
eventually gets taken away.

> > Well, that already has been achieved to a great deal, hasn't it? Just
> > packages like exim4 or apache2 that use an approach which makes it
> > very difficult to impossible for the administrator to configure them
> > break it.
> 
> That's your opinion. Do not take it as absolute.

It's a matter of fact. You can try it by, for example, installing php
for apache2. You're not being told what needs to be done with the
apache2 config, it gets modified automatically. Then you find that it
doesn't work, not before restarting apache2 manually.

Exim4 is another example. I can configure it easily bypassing the
automatic configuration, but I'm unable to configure it using the
auomatic configuration. What about changes if you use the automatic
configuration? Would you be told what is being changed? Or would your
mailserver suddenly be configured differently without you even knowing
about it?

> I don't know about apache, but as I said, with exim it's quite easy
> to use a single file, if you prefer it that way.

Well, where is the option to have the automatic configuration create a
single configuration file that you can easily check and then use to
configure your program if you want to?


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Re: Video editing

[Pedro Insua]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 07:33:54PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> On 12/08/08 07:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> 
> >> Another thing I want to do is adding a simple text presentation at the
> >> beginning of the file
> 
> 
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Kino might.
> 
> 
> But it only handles dv files.  So, there's no hope for other formats like 
> mpeg*
> etc?

  You can use 'mplayer' to convert the file, and then, import it with
  'kino'.

> 
> Thanks
> Rodolfo
> 
> 

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Re: kernel panic

[Olivier Deckers]

Is it possible to update the kernel with default options? Because I have 
no idea what modules should be included in the new kernel.


Emanoil Kotsev schreef:

Olivier Deckers wrote:

  

Hello,

I have a machine running debian in text-only mode, and I am having a lot
of kernel panics lately, while downloading torrent files with rtorrent.
An image with the screen dump can be found at
http://users.telenet.be/olivierdeckers/kpanic.jpg
I have no idea what I can do about it, and I would appreciate any help
because this machine is also used as a server.

Many thanks in advance,
olivier



why not trying newer kernel?

regards


  



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Re: Building kernels the Debian way (was: DPT2044W SCSI adaptor with disk installed but no /dev/sd* devices created)

[lee]

On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 10:22:51PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
> 
> > Create new default link to new source code 
> 
> This is absolutely unnecessary and maybe even harmful.  Read the README
> in the Linux kernel tree why you should not do it.

The NVIDIA driver doesn't install when it wants to compile a kernel
module and you don't have the source in the default location.


"
   Do NOT use the /usr/src/linux area! This area has a (usually
   incomplete) set of kernel headers that are used by the library header
   files.  They should match the library, and not get messed up by
   whatever the kernel-du-jour happens to be.
"


Who or what puts header files into /user/src/linux? It didn't exist
before I created it.


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Re: Xen kernel and make-kpkg

[Stefan Goebel]

Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 09 2008, Stefan Goebel wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to build a custom Xen (DomU for now) kernel using the Debian
>> sources (i.e. linux-source-2.6.26 (2.6.26-11) with Debian's Xen patches
>> from linux-patch-debian-2.6.26 (2.6.26-11)) and kernel-package (11.015),
>> on an i386 system running Lenny.
>>
>> Applying the Xen patches with "../kernel-patches/all/2.6.26/apply/debian
>> -a i386 -f xen" works, running "make-kpkg --revision='1.0'
>> --append-to-version='-foo' kernel_image" does not work, apparently
>> make-kpkg tries to run "make bzImage" on the kernel sources and there is
>> "Nothing to be done for 'bzImage'". A "make deb-pkg" on the sources
>> works, however, I would prefer make-kpkg. Any hints?
> 
> Try rm -rf ./debian; and then run make-kpkg again.

No luck, I already tried it dozens of times with different options,
always from a clean source tree (i.e. freshly untarred and then patched,
so there is no debian/ directory). The problem seems to be that once Xen
is enabled the bzImage target doesn't work (and neither does zImage when
using the --zimage option), but this target is called by make-kpkg. I
also tried using the --arch=xen option (it was mentioned on the Xen
mailing list IIRC), but this results in some "unary operator expected"
messages, similar to those in bug #446879 (which is closed). I tried
setting --arch and --subarch to different values, IIRC this solved some
problems with Xen kernels some time ago. Well, it doesn't anymore  :)

Manoj, should I file a bug report for this or is there something else I
can try first?

Regards,
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running evolution in KDE and the wallet/keypass integration

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Hello to everybody,

How can I make evolution use the kwallet when started in KDE. It was working
perfectly in SuSE and Kubuntu, but under Debian it looks for password in
the gnome keypass manager.

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Re: kernel panic

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Olivier Deckers wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have a machine running debian in text-only mode, and I am having a lot
> of kernel panics lately, while downloading torrent files with rtorrent.
> An image with the screen dump can be found at
> http://users.telenet.be/olivierdeckers/kpanic.jpg
> I have no idea what I can do about it, and I would appreciate any help
> because this machine is also used as a server.
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> olivier

why not trying newer kernel?

regards


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Re: Video editing

[Olivier Deckers]

It is normal that there is no sound during the editing. After exporting 
the video, there should be sound.


Rodolfo Medina schreef:

Rodolfo Medina a écrit :

  

I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut off
and select pieces of a video file.

Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that?
  




"thveillon.debian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  

"Lives" from debian-multimedia will do the job pretty well, decomposing
the video frame by frame before editing it, so you'll be able to achieve
good precision in your cuts.




Unfortunately it doesn't seem to handle larger files, and I have one about 900
MB big.

Rodolfo


  



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Re: Umlaute

[Emanoil Kotsev]

lee wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 09:18:08PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> On 2008-12-07 20:38 +0100, lee wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > how can I get xterm and xemacs to display German Umlaute correctly?
>> > I've configured locales so that they are available, but changing LANG
>> > in xterm or trying to change the encoding xemacs uses for a buffer
>> > don't get the Umlaute displayed. I've never had this problem before,
>> > it just worked fine after configuring the right locales. The only
>> > difference is that I don't have a German keyboard now and that I'm
>> > using amd64 instead of i386.
>> 
>> Please show the output of "locale".
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale
> LANG=en_US
> LC_CTYPE="en_US"
> LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
> LC_TIME="en_US"
> LC_COLLATE="en_US"
> LC_MONETARY="en_US"
> LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
> LC_PAPER="en_US"
> LC_NAME="en_US"
> LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
> LC_ALL=
> 
> 
> I tried it with de_DE.ISO-8859-1, and it didn't work, either.
> 
> But when I gave up trying to get it to work and started to answer the
> mail containing Umlaute, it suddenly worked. I don't know why, but
> even xterm shows them now.
> 
> 

try export LC_ALL=de_DE

this is equivalent to ISO-8859-1/15
 export LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8
speaks for itself

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Re: Video editing

[Rodolfo Medina]

On 12/08/08 07:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

>> Another thing I want to do is adding a simple text presentation at the
>> beginning of the file


Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Kino might.


But it only handles dv files.  So, there's no hope for other formats like mpeg*
etc?

Thanks
Rodolfo


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Re: Video editing

[H.S.]

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> 
> Another thing I want to do is adding a simple text presentation at the
> beginning of the file, also for mpg and other formats.  Will avidemux or the
> other tools mentioned do that?

I have used Kino to do this in my movies grabbed with a minidv
camcorder. Text fade in, fade out, overlay, scrolling text at the
bottome, rolling credits, etc.

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Re: Video editing

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo Medina a écrit :

>> I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut off
>> and select pieces of a video file.
>> 
>> Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that?



"thveillon.debian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Lives" from debian-multimedia will do the job pretty well, decomposing
> the video frame by frame before editing it, so you'll be able to achieve
> good precision in your cuts.


Unfortunately it doesn't seem to handle larger files, and I have one about 900
MB big.

Rodolfo


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kernel panic

[Olivier Deckers]

Hello,

I have a machine running debian in text-only mode, and I am having a lot 
of kernel panics lately, while downloading torrent files with rtorrent. 
An image with the screen dump can be found at 
http://users.telenet.be/olivierdeckers/kpanic.jpg
I have no idea what I can do about it, and I would appreciate any help 
because this machine is also used as a server.


Many thanks in advance,
olivier


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Re: Video editing

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo Medina wrote: 

> I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut off
> and select pieces of a video file.
> 
> Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that?


Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> With Kino you can import the video and edit it.  I have recently
> worked on a few mpg's and used kino.  I found it a bit easier to work
> with than avidemux.  The drawback is that kino converts the mpg to a
> .dv which is about 9 times bigger than the mpg.


With Kino I didn't manage to import *any* file.  Can anyone explain why?  It
simply says that it `couldn't import' that file.

Thanks
Rodolfo


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Re: Video editing

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo Medina wrote: 

>> I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut off
>> and select pieces of a video file.
>> 
>> Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that?



JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Avidemux.


Thanks, this works, but the audio is eliminated!  Anyone can help about why
this happens and to work it out?  Even when trying to play the original file,
avidemux claims that there is `trouble initialising audio device', whereas
Mplayer plays it without problems.  What can I do?

Thanks for any help
Rodolfo


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Re: totally crashed workstation

[Jussi Nurminen]

François Cerbelle wrote:
> 
> Check the frequencies (FSB and core) in the BIOS, your Mother Board or CPU
> could be overclocked and become too hot to work.
> 

I will check, but I don't think that's the problem. Everything is at factory
defaults and I can e.g. stress the CPUs without any indication of
overheating. The cooling on the Precision workstations is pretty powerful...



> Look in the SMART information from your disks. If a disk with a SWAP
> partition fails, it might freeze the kernel too.
> 

That's a good point, I will look at the SMART monitoring tools.



> It can also be because of a power weak. Too much power asked by the
> DVD+Disks + Video +... and not enought for the CPU. Often, there is a
> limit, even if the manufacturer says "2 rails".
> 

Probably not. Normally, the system can take all kinds of stress without any
complaint and I think the PSU is actually overrated for the components.
Also, it wasn't under heavy load when it crashed.

Maybe it was a cosmic ray?

Thanks for your suggestions!

Jussi


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Re: Проблемы с модемом

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Richard Möhn wrote:

> U.S.Robotics 56k модель 5633A

Being new to linux it depends on your computer skills to succeed but it
looks like a proprietary winmodem that requires special software.

you may also try http://linmodems.org/ and the kernel usb list as it seems
to be a usb modem

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Re: Xen kernel and make-kpkg

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Tue, Dec 09 2008, Stefan Goebel wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to build a custom Xen (DomU for now) kernel using the Debian
> sources (i.e. linux-source-2.6.26 (2.6.26-11) with Debian's Xen patches
> from linux-patch-debian-2.6.26 (2.6.26-11)) and kernel-package (11.015),
> on an i386 system running Lenny.
>
> Applying the Xen patches with "../kernel-patches/all/2.6.26/apply/debian
> -a i386 -f xen" works, running "make-kpkg --revision='1.0'
> --append-to-version='-foo' kernel_image" does not work, apparently
> make-kpkg tries to run "make bzImage" on the kernel sources and there is
> "Nothing to be done for 'bzImage'". A "make deb-pkg" on the sources
> works, however, I would prefer make-kpkg. Any hints?

Try rm -rf ./debian; and then run make-kpkg again.

manoj

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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 11:25, Micha Feigin wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:27:28 -0600
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 12/09/08 09:58, Micha Feigin wrote:

I want to setup three machines to boot over the network from an nfs root.
The network doesn't have a dhcp server (I prefer if it's possible to do it
without one) and the network card is only supported with newer kernels
(2.6.28-rc).

Is there a way to do it through grub or do I need to setup a minimal system
and boot from it?

Any pointers on how to set this up?
PXE boot seems like what you want, where the client's NIC requests 
the boot files from the server.


Or am I misunderstanding your questions?



Yes, theoretically that is what I want, but if I'm not mistaken PXE boot is
dependent on a dhcp server giving the machine an IP and declaring that it has
a boot image to provide, or am I wrong.

I want to give the ip as an option and use a given nfs server as a root, not
resolve these values at run time


Hmmm, yes, you're right.  There's got to be a way, though, using 
bootp, MAC address and tftp, since that's how we did it 10 years ago 
with X Terminals.


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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Eric Gerlach]

Micha Feigin wrote:

Yes, theoretically that is what I want, but if I'm not mistaken PXE boot is
dependent on a dhcp server giving the machine an IP and declaring that it has
a boot image to provide, or am I wrong.

I want to give the ip as an option and use a given nfs server as a root, not
resolve these values at run time


Are these diskless machines?  If not, then theoretically you could set 
up your initial RAM disk to give the IP and mount the NFS root.  I 
couldn't tell you exactly how to go about it, though.


If they're diskless, you'll need a DHCP server (I think).

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Re: Making sure eth interfaces are numbered consistently

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 11:22, Micha Feigin wrote:

Hello,

i have 4 network interfaces in my machine all using the e1000e driver.

Can I be assured that they are all numbered consistently on each boot (i.e that
the same card is always eth0) or if not, is there a way to force it?


Yes.  Look in:

/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:27:28 -0600
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/09/08 09:58, Micha Feigin wrote:
> > I want to setup three machines to boot over the network from an nfs root.
> > The network doesn't have a dhcp server (I prefer if it's possible to do it
> > without one) and the network card is only supported with newer kernels
> > (2.6.28-rc).
> > 
> > Is there a way to do it through grub or do I need to setup a minimal system
> > and boot from it?
> > 
> > Any pointers on how to set this up?
> 
> PXE boot seems like what you want, where the client's NIC requests 
> the boot files from the server.
> 
> Or am I misunderstanding your questions?
> 

Yes, theoretically that is what I want, but if I'm not mistaken PXE boot is
dependent on a dhcp server giving the machine an IP and declaring that it has
a boot image to provide, or am I wrong.

I want to give the ip as an option and use a given nfs server as a root, not
resolve these values at run time

thanks


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Making sure eth interfaces are numbered consistently

[Micha Feigin]

Hello,

i have 4 network interfaces in my machine all using the e1000e driver.

Can I be assured that they are all numbered consistently on each boot (i.e that
the same card is always eth0) or if not, is there a way to force it?

Thanks


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Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 09:58, Micha Feigin wrote:

I want to setup three machines to boot over the network from an nfs root.
The network doesn't have a dhcp server (I prefer if it's possible to do it
without one) and the network card is only supported with newer kernels
(2.6.28-rc).

Is there a way to do it through grub or do I need to setup a minimal system and
boot from it?

Any pointers on how to set this up?


PXE boot seems like what you want, where the client's NIC requests 
the boot files from the server.


Or am I misunderstanding your questions?

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NFS boot with a dhcpless network

[Micha Feigin]

I want to setup three machines to boot over the network from an nfs root.
The network doesn't have a dhcp server (I prefer if it's possible to do it
without one) and the network card is only supported with newer kernels
(2.6.28-rc).

Is there a way to do it through grub or do I need to setup a minimal system and
boot from it?

Any pointers on how to set this up?

Thanks


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Re: Xen kernel and make-kpkg

[Stefan Goebel]

François Cerbelle wrote:
> Le Mar 9 décembre 2008 13:53, Stefan Goebel a écrit :
>> Applying the Xen patches with "../kernel-patches/all/2.6.26/apply/debian
>> -a i386 -f xen" works, running "make-kpkg --revision='1.0'
>> --append-to-version='-foo' kernel_image" does not work [...]
> 
> You should try to use "make-kpkg ... clean", and then use either the
> environnement variable or the command line option to ask make-kpkg to
> patch the kernel (with the patch you want), to ask you for the menuconfig
> instead of silentoldconfig and to compile the package as you want.

You are thinking of make-kpkg's "--added-patches" option, which does not
work - neither for Xen nor, for example, the vserver patches. Using this
option results in a "Could not find patch for xen" error. Though I do
think that manually patching the kernel with Debian's Xen patches and
then running make-kpkg did work some time ago.

> The exact options and environnement variables are in the make-kpkg man
> page, if I'm right.

You are, but it doesn't work :)

> Fanfan


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Re: totally crashed workstation

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/09/08 08:40, Jussi Nurminen wrote:


Hi,
when burning a DVD today, our new Debian workstation suddenly froze. I could
move the mouse cursor, but the system did not respond to any keypresses
(even magic sysrq). I could not ssh to the box and it did not even respond
to ping. 


With no other options, I powered it down and back up again, and it come up
nicely. None of the logfiles show nothing interesting, at some point the
logging just stops.

How can I investigate this further? I already burned and erased a DVD-RW
dozens of times in a loop without a problem. Currently I'm running
memtest86. I suspect some kind of hardware problem, because our other Debian
workstations have never done this kind of thing.

The machine is a Dell Precision 690 with 2 dual-core Xeon processors, 4 GiB
of memory and two SAS hard drives, running Debian Lenny.


I've experienced these same symptoms (when simply surfing the web, 
when my system is under a heavy memory load, not when burning a DVD) 
in Unstable, running 2.6.2[0-4] kernels, but, like you, haven't been 
able to find a cause.  Hasn't happened with 2.6.2[567] kernels, yet. 
 Of course, the kernel might have nothing to do with the error...


My suspicion, though, has been memory overcommit issues, since I 
have this in my /etc/sysctl.conf :


vm.overcommit_memory = 2

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Re: setting default package grouping mechanism in aptitude

[Jukka Salmi]

Daniel Burrows --> debian-user (2008-12-09 06:57:48 -0800):
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 03:29:09PM +0100, Jukka Salmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
> heard to say:
[...]
> > Aptitude::UI::Default-Grouping
> >   { "task,status,section(subdir,passthrough),section(topdir)"; };
[...]
>   You need to do this:
> 
> Aptitude::UI::Default-Grouping
>   "task,status,section(subdir,passthrough),section(topdir)";
> 
>   Curly braces introduce a new sub-group, so the config file fragment
> you wrote is the same as this:
> 
> Aptitude::UI::Default-Grouping "";
> Aptitude::UI::Default-Grouping:: 
> "task,status,section(subdir,passthrough),section(topdir)";
> 

Thanks, I missunderstood the syntax.


>   You need to file a bug saying that the documentation didn't change
> the last time that the default did.

I'll do this as soon as reportbug is installed...


Regards, Jukka

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Re: setting themes in aptitude

[Daniel Burrows]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 03:47:50PM +0100, Jukka Salmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> on a recent 4.0r5 system I tried setting the aptitude theme but failed.
> I added
> 
> Aptitude::Theme "Dselect";
> 
> to ~/.aptitude/config, but aptitude simply didn't show _any_ package
> anymore.  Same for the "Vertical-Split" theme.  Both themes _are_
> defined in /usr/share/aptitude/aptitude-defaults, and that file _is_
> read by aptitude.
> 
> What could be the problem here?

  The theme system is utterly broken, perhaps?  That would be my first
guess...

  Daniel


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Re: setting default package grouping mechanism in aptitude

[Daniel Burrows]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 03:29:09PM +0100, Jukka Salmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> seems to do what I want.  But I'd like this to be the default package
> grouping mechanism and not to enter it every time I use aptitude.  Thus
> I tried setting
> 
> Aptitude::UI::Default-Grouping
>   { "task,status,section(subdir,passthrough),section(topdir)"; };
> 
> in ~/.aptitude/config, but this doesn't seem to work: All files are
> displayed at once, apparently sorted alphabetically, and hitting `G'
> shows an empty grouping order.
> 
> What am I missing?

  You need to do this:

Aptitude::UI::Default-Grouping
  "task,status,section(subdir,passthrough),section(topdir)";

  Curly braces introduce a new sub-group, so the config file fragment
you wrote is the same as this:

Aptitude::UI::Default-Grouping "";
Aptitude::UI::Default-Grouping:: 
"task,status,section(subdir,passthrough),section(topdir)";

> 
> And, BTW, according to the documentation, the default for
> Aptitude::UI::Default-Grouping is
> 
> filter(missing),status,section(subdir,passthrough),section(topdir)
> 
> but this is not what an initial `G' shows (see above, `filter(missing)'
> vs `task').  Any hints?

  You need to file a bug saying that the documentation didn't change
the last time that the default did.

  Daniel


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Re: totally crashed workstation

[François Cerbelle]

Le Mar 9 décembre 2008 15:40, Jussi Nurminen a écrit :
[...]
> How can I investigate this further? I already burned and erased a DVD-RW
[...]
> The machine is a Dell Precision 690 with 2 dual-core Xeon processors, 4
> GiB of memory and two SAS hard drives, running Debian Lenny.

Check the frequencies (FSB and core) in the BIOS, your Mother Board or CPU
could be overclocked and become too hot to work.

Install something to monitor the thermal and fan sensors on the CPU (and
the disks). It might be because of CPU too hot, a deffective fan.

Look in the SMART information from your disks. If a disk with a SWAP
partition fails, it might freeze the kernel too.

It can also be because of a power weak. Too much power asked by the
DVD+Disks + Video +... and not enought for the CPU. Often, there is a
limit, even if the manufacturer says "2 rails".

But, dont ask me why the mouse pointer still worked.

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Re: Partition damaged

[Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso]

2008/12/7 Patricio Inzaghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is the last partition, and i executed the command with the start and
> end parameters, and before, I provide the partition device to the
> parted command. What more information can i pass to it?

If you literally provided START and END instead of numbers, that won't
work (but I don't know why the rescue command wouldn't work). You have
to provide approximate numbers, in megabytes, on where you expect the
partition to be.

- Jordi G. H.


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