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Ron Johnson wrote:

On 01/11/09 22:34, M. Lewis wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote:




[snip]



No, but I can show you what mine look like.  It's a Sid box running a 
hand-rolled kernel based on linux-source-2.6.28.  (The machine is 
about 3 months old, so also worked with 2.6.24.)



$ lspci | grep Audio
00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio 
(rev a2)



$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_intel 435324  3
snd_pcm77896  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_seq51376  1
snd_timer  21776  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device  7828  1 snd_seq
snd60856  12 
snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device

soundcore   7952  1 snd
snd_page_alloc  9104  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm


# cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.17 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux haggis 2.6.27smp64 #3 SMP Tue Dec 23 02:25:46 CST 2008 
x86_64

Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 21

Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG



Thanks Ron, that helps some. At least I know what a working one looks 
like.


A little bit more detail, which correlates /dev/sndstat to lspci :

$ lspci -v -s00:06.1
00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio 
(rev a2)

Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device 0d12
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21
Memory at fe024000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

See how the "Card config:" matches the lspci info.



moe:~# lspci -v -s14.2
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002
Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 16
Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel


Do you happen to know what that fast devsel / slow devsel business is about?

Thanks,
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Re: howto make root emacs open in X

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:50:00PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 03:38:30PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:48:48PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:04:03PM -0600, Harry P wrote:
> > > > Osamu Aoki  writes:
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:26:07AM -0600, Harry P wrote:
> > > > >> Axel Freyn  writes:
> > > > >> > Why do you use ssh to connect to the local machine? I would 
> > > > >> > propose to
> > > > > Point of Axel is use of SSH wastes CPU resource while gaining nothing.
> > > > > His suggestion is more efficient.  .. I think.
> > > > Setting the issue of whether you have to type out a passwd aside:
> > > 
> > > Hmmm... you must have set up passwordless SSH to root.  I hope this sshd
> > > is not accessible from Internet.  You may be attacked easily.
> > > 
> > 
> > I did it with localhost public key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts and my 
> > user pub key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys .
> 
> Sorry I have come in a bit late and the answer might have been given
> previously.
> 

I gain freedom from continual typing of passwords.

I have three debian computers on a small LAN. I have deposited
authorized_keys and known_hosts files on all of them so that I can
work on files on any of them using the CPU of any of them, all from my
single desktop computer. Each time I log into my desktop I must give
my password once and run ssh-add and give my ssh key password
(once). After that I can move about the system without ever typing a
password again until I quit and have to log in again. I can abandon a
shell on a romote machine and them immediately reenter it by scrolling
back and reexecuting a previously typed in ssh command.

To do this, I use ssh and sshfs. No private keys that lack passwords
are need, just some ingenuity. This is all being done on a small LAN
protected from the internet wilderness by NAT. It's OK for me, IMHO.

YMMV 

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Re: /dev/sndstat


On 01/11/09 22:34, M. Lewis wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote:




[snip]



No, but I can show you what mine look like.  It's a Sid box running a 
hand-rolled kernel based on linux-source-2.6.28.  (The machine is 
about 3 months old, so also worked with 2.6.24.)



$ lspci | grep Audio
00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio 
(rev a2)



$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_intel 435324  3
snd_pcm77896  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_seq51376  1
snd_timer  21776  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device  7828  1 snd_seq
snd60856  12 
snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device

soundcore   7952  1 snd
snd_page_alloc  9104  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm


# cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.17 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux haggis 2.6.27smp64 #3 SMP Tue Dec 23 02:25:46 CST 2008 
x86_64

Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 21

Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG



Thanks Ron, that helps some. At least I know what a working one looks like.


A little bit more detail, which correlates /dev/sndstat to lspci :

$ lspci -v -s00:06.1
00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio 
(rev a2)

Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device 0d12
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21
Memory at fe024000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

See how the "Card config:" matches the lspci info.

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Re: /dev/sndstat


Ron Johnson wrote:

On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote:




[snip]



No, but I can show you what mine look like.  It's a Sid box running a 
hand-rolled kernel based on linux-source-2.6.28.  (The machine is about 
3 months old, so also worked with 2.6.24.)



$ lspci | grep Audio
00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio 
(rev a2)



$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_intel 435324  3
snd_pcm77896  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_seq51376  1
snd_timer  21776  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device  7828  1 snd_seq
snd60856  12 
snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device

soundcore   7952  1 snd
snd_page_alloc  9104  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm


# cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.17 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux haggis 2.6.27smp64 #3 SMP Tue Dec 23 02:25:46 CST 2008 x86_64
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 21

Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG



Thanks Ron, that helps some. At least I know what a working one looks like.
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Re: /dev/sndstat


On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote:


I'm still working on troubleshooting my sound issues. Can someone tell 
me *what* config this is referring to?


moe:~# cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux moe 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 17:25:36 UTC 2008 x86_64
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
--- no soundcards ---

Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG


No, but I can show you what mine look like.  It's a Sid box running 
a hand-rolled kernel based on linux-source-2.6.28.  (The machine is 
about 3 months old, so also worked with 2.6.24.)



$ lspci | grep Audio
00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio 
(rev a2)



$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_intel 435324  3
snd_pcm77896  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_seq51376  1
snd_timer  21776  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device  7828  1 snd_seq
snd60856  12 
snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device

soundcore   7952  1 snd
snd_page_alloc  9104  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm


# cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.17 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux haggis 2.6.27smp64 #3 SMP Tue Dec 23 02:25:46 CST 2008 
x86_64

Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 21

Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG



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/dev/sndstat



I'm still working on troubleshooting my sound issues. Can someone tell 
me *what* config this is referring to?


moe:~# cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux moe 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 17:25:36 UTC 2008 x86_64
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
--- no soundcards ---

Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Thanks,
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Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Jones

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 08:59:39PM EST, Richard Hector wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 19:49 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 01/11/09 19:24, Richard Hector wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 20:03 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:29:54PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> > >>  
> > >>> I'd be tempted to just write on something that never needs erasing -
> > >>> either a name that makes sense in a repeating cycle (eg 'Monday',
> > >>> 'Tuesday' etc) or just an index number, and keep a separate record of
> > >>> which disk you need for which date. Otherwise you increase the risk of
> > >>> damaging the disk.
> > >> What, no barcode reader in a burner?
> > > 
> > > I'm not very good at writing barcodes :-)
> > > 
> > > And I have nothing that will print on a CD/DVD. And I don't like the
> > > idea of putting sticky labels on a disk that spins that fast.

Me neither .. sounds like asking for trouble.

> > See if Lightscribe works for you.
> 
> [note that I'm not actually in need of a solution at this time]
> 
> My (laptop) burner claims to do lightscribe - but it needs special
> (expensive?) disks, doesn't it? And produces labels that the drive still
> can't read?

I'm pretty sure mine isn't .. but I have no evidence to the contrary either.

I've heard lightscribe burning takes for ever..

> I'm not actually sure where this thread is going any more though :-)

:-)


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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot

2009-01-11 Thread Paul Johnson

JoeHill wrote:

> Wow...had no idea. So badly want a portable.

PROTIP: Buy a share of IBM stock.  IBM shareholders get nice discounts
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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-11 Thread Michael Pobega

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:14:31AM +1000, Adrian Levi wrote:
> 2009/1/10 Michael Pobega :
> > On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:34PM +, Chris S wrote:
> >> Hello everyone genius type people,
> >> Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you guys)
> 
> >> they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about 
> >> the
> >> further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me 
> >> know
> >> what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I 
> >> have
> >> googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
> >> helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.
> 
> > I'm not trying to say something completely useless here, but perhaps you
> > should try updated to Lenny? Etch is soon to be an unsupported version
> > of Debian, so I would honestly upgrade before getting into anything.
> 
> Yes it is soon to be oldstable but security fixes will still apply to
> it for some time.
> 
> Updating to Lenny for a new user for your reason above is 1)
> Unnessesary to fix this problem, 2) can create more problems than he
> is trying to fix and 3) Lenny is not stable yet.
> 

I don't really agree with that. Lenny already has very few RC bugs and
has been in freeze for quite a while. In my opinion Lenny would be
easier for a new user, as it will avoid the (often) troublesome upgrade
process.

Also, Lenny may include some updated video drivers that may or may not
fix Chris' problem; I don't see how trying to nip something like this in
the bud could create problems.

Though it's really up to Chris in the end anyway -- This is all just
idle chatter.


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Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-11 Thread Richard Hector

On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 19:49 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 01/11/09 19:24, Richard Hector wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 20:03 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:29:54PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> >>  
> >>> I'd be tempted to just write on something that never needs erasing -
> >>> either a name that makes sense in a repeating cycle (eg 'Monday',
> >>> 'Tuesday' etc) or just an index number, and keep a separate record of
> >>> which disk you need for which date. Otherwise you increase the risk of
> >>> damaging the disk.
> >> What, no barcode reader in a burner?
> > 
> > I'm not very good at writing barcodes :-)
> > 
> > And I have nothing that will print on a CD/DVD. And I don't like the
> > idea of putting sticky labels on a disk that spins that fast.
> 
> See if Lightscribe works for you.

[note that I'm not actually in need of a solution at this time]

My (laptop) burner claims to do lightscribe - but it needs special
(expensive?) disks, doesn't it? And produces labels that the drive still
can't read?

I'm not actually sure where this thread is going any more though :-)

Richard



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Re: howto make root emacs open in X

2009-01-11 Thread Alex Samad

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 03:38:30PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:48:48PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:04:03PM -0600, Harry P wrote:
> > > Osamu Aoki  writes:
> > > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:26:07AM -0600, Harry P wrote:
> > > >> Axel Freyn  writes:
> > > >> > Why do you use ssh to connect to the local machine? I would propose 
> > > >> > to
> > > > Point of Axel is use of SSH wastes CPU resource while gaining nothing.
> > > > His suggestion is more efficient.  .. I think.
> > > Setting the issue of whether you have to type out a passwd aside:
> > 
> > Hmmm... you must have set up passwordless SSH to root.  I hope this sshd
> > is not accessible from Internet.  You may be attacked easily.
> > 
> 
> I did it with localhost public key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts and my 
> user pub key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys .

Sorry I have come in a bit late and the answer might have been given
previously.


But isn't it the same as using sudo, sudo caches your password (access)
for a user specified amount of time. Both methods seem to require a
password sudo can be setup to limit access what command and files can be
edited.

and as for X access I can run sudo xterm from my machine and a root
xterm pop's up on my X, what doesn't work is sudo su - and then xterm
but there is a simple work around for that as well - set XAUTHORITY and
DISPLAY

Alex

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Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's


On 01/11/09 19:24, Richard Hector wrote:

On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 20:03 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:29:54PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
 

I'd be tempted to just write on something that never needs erasing -
either a name that makes sense in a repeating cycle (eg 'Monday',
'Tuesday' etc) or just an index number, and keep a separate record of
which disk you need for which date. Otherwise you increase the risk of
damaging the disk.

What, no barcode reader in a burner?


I'm not very good at writing barcodes :-)

And I have nothing that will print on a CD/DVD. And I don't like the
idea of putting sticky labels on a disk that spins that fast.


See if Lightscribe works for you.

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Re: Corrupt data - RAID sata_sil 3114 chip

2009-01-11 Thread Tejun Heo

Robert Hancock wrote:
>> There are apparently some reports of issues on NVidia chipsets as
>> well, though I don't have any details at hand.
> 
> Well, Carlos' email bounces, so much for that one. Anyone have any other
> contacts at Silicon Image?

I'll ping my SIMG contacts but I've pinged about this problem in the
past but it didn't get anywhere.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming


On 01/11/09 17:31, Celejar wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:39:56 -0600
Ron Johnson  wrote:


On 01/10/09 19:27, Celejar wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:49:18 -0600
Ron Johnson  wrote:

...


clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.

I'm not sure that there's generally any need to convert them; mplayer is
perfectly happy with files with .flv extensions.

True.  But IIRC, the mp4 files are smaller.


Will transcoding reduce the quality?


I haven't noticed any reduction.

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Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-11 Thread Richard Hector

On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 20:03 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:29:54PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
>  
> > I'd be tempted to just write on something that never needs erasing -
> > either a name that makes sense in a repeating cycle (eg 'Monday',
> > 'Tuesday' etc) or just an index number, and keep a separate record of
> > which disk you need for which date. Otherwise you increase the risk of
> > damaging the disk.
> 
> What, no barcode reader in a burner?

I'm not very good at writing barcodes :-)

And I have nothing that will print on a CD/DVD. And I don't like the
idea of putting sticky labels on a disk that spins that fast.

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Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty

On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:29:54PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
 
> I'd be tempted to just write on something that never needs erasing -
> either a name that makes sense in a repeating cycle (eg 'Monday',
> 'Tuesday' etc) or just an index number, and keep a separate record of
> which disk you need for which date. Otherwise you increase the risk of
> damaging the disk.

What, no barcode reader in a burner?

:)

Doug.


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Re: Debian AMD64

On Sun January 11 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> # ls -1 NVID*177.82*run
> >> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run
> >> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.82-pkg2.run
> > 
>
> > wait, you have 177.82 ???


latest nvidia version now:
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run

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Re: Debian AMD64

On Sun January 11 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > I think you meant ls -l
> > ls -l NVID*
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 pbc  pbc  19865216 2008-07-08 08:00
> > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.09-pkg1.run
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 pbc  pbc  19869479 2008-08-06 19:20
> > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run
>
> That's two different 32-bit versions.

Right, I always keep at least 1 older version that I KNOW works, in case the 
new one crashes, burns or doesn't work..
>
> > wait, you have 177.82 ???
>
> Yes.  The 32- and 64-bit "editions" of the same version of the
> binary driver.

right, I'll get both.
>
> >>> I'm assuming this is the part that needs to come from the amd64 build?
> >>
> >> I don't remember that part.  Are you running a 64-bit kernel yet?
> >
> > no, just getting my ducks in a row first.. I did get the kernel & header
> > files and updated grub, I just haven't rebooted YET..
>
> You'll need to get the NVIDIA versions from nvidia.com, since the
> packaged versions don't support this.

yup, same place I got the ones I have now, I just haven't looked recently 
because sgfx -c updated them for me.




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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot

Tzafrir Cohen wrote: 

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 06:42:37PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
> > Celejar wrote:   
> 
> > > Suspend to disk; once you begin using it, you won't be able to do
> > > without it.  
> > 
> > How long does that last? Could you suspend to disk while you're commuting
> > for, say, an hour or more?  
> 
> Suspend to ram: much faster, but time-limited (memory runs on the battery.
> 
> Suspend to disk: slowwer, but unlimited in time.
> 
> $ uptime
>  01:51:08 up 130 days,  3:35,  4 users,  load average: 1.28, 1.21, 1.14
> 
> That's after countless of s2disk :-)

Wow...had no idea. So badly want a portable.

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009/1/12 Chris Jones :
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 05:16:14PM EST, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> 2009/1/11 Robert Brockway :
>> > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>> Like fine underwear, passwords should be changed every few months for good
>> measure.
>
> What? You recommend changing underwear every few months..??
>
> I certainly envy you for the tolerant disposition of your relatives, friends,
> or fellow workers.
>

I've heard it said once that passwords are like underwear: you don't
share them with your friends, you don't hang them on your monitor, and
you change them twice yearly. I only wish that I could take credit for
that poetic quote.

(it's an ingenious quote, because of the humour users tend to remember it)

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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot

2009-01-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 06:42:37PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
> Celejar wrote: 

> > Suspend to disk; once you begin using it, you won't be able to do
> > without it.
> 
> How long does that last? Could you suspend to disk while you're commuting for,
> say, an hour or more?

Suspend to ram: much faster, but time-limited (memory runs on the battery.

Suspend to disk: slowwer, but unlimited in time.

$ uptime
 01:51:08 up 130 days,  3:35,  4 users,  load average: 1.28, 1.21, 1.14

That's after countless of s2disk :-)

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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot

Celejar wrote: 

> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:17:57 -0500
> JoeHill  wrote:
> 
> > Ron Johnson wrote: 
> >   
> > > On 01/11/09 11:49, Dean Chester wrote:  
> > > > Hi
> > > > Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot time. Its embarrassing that 
> > > > Vista boots up quicker than debian.
> > > 
> > > If you only reboot your machine once or twice a month, does it 
> > > matter whether boot times are slow?  
> > 
> > maybe if it's a laptop ;)  
> 
> Suspend to disk; once you begin using it, you won't be able to do
> without it.

How long does that last? Could you suspend to disk while you're commuting for,
say, an hour or more?

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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot

Ron Johnson wrote: 

> On 01/11/09 16:17, JoeHill wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote: 
> >   
> >> On 01/11/09 11:49, Dean Chester wrote:  
> >>> Hi
> >>> Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot time. Its embarrassing that 
> >>> Vista boots up quicker than debian.
> >> If you only reboot your machine once or twice a month, does it 
> >> matter whether boot times are slow?  
> > 
> > maybe if it's a laptop ;)  
> 
> Laps are for girls, not computers.

Desks can be for girls too, depends on who you work with.

>  (Is that ragingly sexist?)

If it is, I'm in real trouble now.

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Jones

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 05:16:14PM EST, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/11 Robert Brockway :
> > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:

> Like fine underwear, passwords should be changed every few months for good
> measure.

What? You recommend changing underwear every few months..?? 

I certainly envy you for the tolerant disposition of your relatives, friends,
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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-11 Thread Celejar

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:39:56 -0600
Ron Johnson  wrote:

> On 01/10/09 19:27, Celejar wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:49:18 -0600
> > Ron Johnson  wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> >> clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.
> > 
> > I'm not sure that there's generally any need to convert them; mplayer is
> > perfectly happy with files with .flv extensions.
> 
> True.  But IIRC, the mp4 files are smaller.

Will transcoding reduce the quality?

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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot

2009-01-11 Thread Celejar

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:17:57 -0500
JoeHill  wrote:

> Ron Johnson wrote: 
> 
> > On 01/11/09 11:49, Dean Chester wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot time. Its embarrassing that 
> > > Vista boots up quicker than debian.  
> > 
> > If you only reboot your machine once or twice a month, does it 
> > matter whether boot times are slow?
> 
> maybe if it's a laptop ;)

Suspend to disk; once you begin using it, you won't be able to do
without it.

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Re: Unknown network traffic (Conclusion)

2009-01-11 Thread T o n g


> I've tried all the network bandwidth monitoring tools that I know to find
> out the unknown network traffic I'm having now . . .

As for tools to further analysis the traffic,

Both Allen Kistler @gmail.com & Javier Barroso @comp.os.linux.networking
suggested tcpdump and wireshark, which are pretty much the standard tools
for capturing and dissecting traffic.

Chris Davies @comp.os.linux.networking suggested tshark (the console version
of wireshark) and showed its usage as well (thanks!):

   tshark -nlp -i eth0

James Youngman @gnu.org suggested to run 

 tcpdup -n -i eth0

although I didn't find where the executable comes from.

> My normal network bandwidth is almost 0. Now, with 1.95Kb outbound and 
> 4.71Kb inbound, I don't know what's exactly going on with my network.

As for analyzing the cause of the unknown traffic,

>   bps% desc
>  107.2   0% icmp unreach port 192.168.0.100 -> 119.40.7.39
>  107.2   0% icmp unreach port 192.168.0.100 -> 122-121-216-117
>  107.2   0% icmp unreach port 192.168.0.100 -> 17
>  107.2   0% icmp unreach port 192.168.0.100 -> 220-136-240-189
>  108.5   0% icmp unreach port 192.168.0.100 -> 227
>  105.4   0% icmp unreach port 192.168.0.100 -> 77.81.248.210
>  105.4   0% icmp unreach port 192.168.0.100 -> 83-157-127-150
>  . . .

Both James Youngman @gnu.org and Eric Pozharski @comp.os.linux.networking
explained the actual meaning of "icmp unreach port":

... these ICMP port-unreachable errors indicate that the remote systems are
trying to communicate with a network port you're not listening on.

... those hosts attempt to open port on yours address...; then, since you
(supposedly) don't have those services enabled on your host, yours kernel
REJECTs them (that's what "icmp unreach port" means).

Knowing this, I feel much relieved. 

> First of all, these are very small numbers.   This almost certainly is
> not a summary of what's using up all your bandwidth (if that's indeed
> happening). 

The explanation for this is that I didn't list all the traffic. There are
many and they do add up to all my bandwidth.

The actual reason, I think, is that I've used a Bittorrent client
before. But it was *hours* before -- didn't expect the Bittorrent clients
on other side were so persistent... 

Thanks again to everybody!

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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot


On 01/11/09 16:17, JoeHill wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote: 


On 01/11/09 11:49, Dean Chester wrote:

Hi
Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot time. Its embarrassing that 
Vista boots up quicker than debian.  
If you only reboot your machine once or twice a month, does it 
matter whether boot times are slow?


maybe if it's a laptop ;)


Laps are for girls, not computers.  (Is that ragingly sexist?)

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Re: howto make root emacs open in X

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:48:48PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:04:03PM -0600, Harry P wrote:
> > Osamu Aoki  writes:
> > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:26:07AM -0600, Harry P wrote:
> > >> Axel Freyn  writes:
> > >> > Why do you use ssh to connect to the local machine? I would propose to
> > > Point of Axel is use of SSH wastes CPU resource while gaining nothing.
> > > His suggestion is more efficient.  .. I think.
> > Setting the issue of whether you have to type out a passwd aside:
> 
> Hmmm... you must have set up passwordless SSH to root.  I hope this sshd
> is not accessible from Internet.  You may be attacked easily.
> 

I did it with localhost public key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts and my 
user pub key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys .


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Re: Debian AMD64


On 01/11/09 15:33, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On Sun January 11 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:

The .run files are containers,

18 meg shell scripts..

More than that!

# ls -1 NVID*177.82*run
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run
NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.82-pkg2.run


I think you meant ls -l
ls -l NVID*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 pbc  pbc  19865216 2008-07-08 08:00 
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.09-pkg1.run
-rw-r--r-- 1 pbc  pbc  19869479 2008-08-06 19:20 
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run


That's two different 32-bit versions.

wait, you have 177.82 ??? 


Yes.  The 32- and 64-bit "editions" of the same version of the 
binary driver.



I'm assuming this is the part that needs to come from the amd64 build?

I don't remember that part.  Are you running a 64-bit kernel yet?
no, just getting my ducks in a row first.. I did get the kernel & header files 
and updated grub, I just haven't rebooted YET..


You'll need to get the NVIDIA versions from nvidia.com, since the 
packaged versions don't support this.



$ uname -m
x86_64

uname -m
i686

ls -l /boot
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   88589 2008-07-18 16:22 config-2.6.25-2-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   91651 2008-12-15 17:43 config-2.6.26-1-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   85599 2008-12-15 17:47 config-2.6.26-1-amd64
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root4096 2009-01-10 15:59 grub
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6793424 2008-08-18 07:39 initrd.img-2.6.25-2-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6795167 2008-08-15 15:56 initrd.img-2.6.25-2-686.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7217562 2008-12-20 08:40 initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6943610 2008-10-06 09:15 initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7290666 2009-01-10 15:58 initrd.img-2.6.26-1-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   20068 2007-12-04 17:21 memdisk
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  103212 2008-03-24 16:08 memtest86.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  124152 2008-10-02 21:27 memtest86+.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  918470 2008-07-18 16:22 System.map-2.6.25-2-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  928053 2008-12-15 17:43 System.map-2.6.26-1-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1225518 2008-12-15 17:47 System.map-2.6.26-1-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1484448 2008-07-18 16:21 vmlinuz-2.6.25-2-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1505712 2008-12-15 17:43 vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1755088 2008-12-15 17:46 vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-amd64







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Re: howto make root emacs open in X

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:26:07AM -0600, Harry P wrote:
> Axel Freyn  writes:
> 
> > Why do you use ssh to connect to the local machine? I would propose to
> 
> To make use of the ssh-agent and circumvent typing the password every
> time I want a root shell.
> 

Another approach to avoiding password typing is to use sshfs to mount an
access poing thru which you can access (rw) the file with root priveleges
from a user shell. Have I said it so its understandable? I do it and it
works. There is some automagical redefining of rwx to root for those which
pass thru the sshfs deamon. 

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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot

Ron Johnson wrote: 

> On 01/11/09 11:49, Dean Chester wrote:
> > Hi
> > Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot time. Its embarrassing that 
> > Vista boots up quicker than debian.  
> 
> If you only reboot your machine once or twice a month, does it 
> matter whether boot times are slow?

maybe if it's a laptop ;)

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009/1/11 Robert Brockway :
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>> On a machine that I have root access to, how can I see who is logged
>> into the machine? Specifically, I suspect that  a malicious entity is
>> logging on in a compromised account over SSH, even while the account's
>> user is sitting at the machine and logged in, so if I can catch two
>> simultaneous login sessions (one on the physical hardware, one over
>> ssh) then I can be sure. Thanks.
>
> w and who have been mentioned.  I generally prefer finger (which runs quite
> happily locally without a fingerd to connect to).
>
> You probably also want to look at last[1] which will show a history of when
> users were logged in.
>
> But...
>
> If you really think the a/c has been compromised then don't wait for the
> baddie to log in again.  Lock the account.  Scan the box for anomalies (eg,
> checkrootkit) and take a particular interest in that a/c.
>
> If you don't find any evidence that the baddie broke root then may wish to
> reset the a/c password and move on.  If you find any evidence that the
> baddie broke root then best practice is to restore the box from known good
> backups.  You can never guarantee that you found all of the backdoors that a
> cracker may have left on a system.
>
> I'll stop now as there is a lot more I could say on this topic but it isn't
> necessary at this stage.
>
> [1] I comment out the entry concerning wtmp in /etc/logrotate.conf as this
> allows the login history to remain indefinitely.  Even for multi-user boxes
> that have been running for years I haven't found a problem doing this.  wtmp
> is tiny so disk space is hardly an issue.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rob
>

Thanks, Rob. Although I found no evidence of the breakin that I had
suspected, I changed the password anyway. Like fine underwear,
passwords should be changed every few months for good measure.

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009/1/11 Michael Shuler :
> Since it has not been mentioned in the other replies, I would certainly
> think that scrutiny of /var/log/auth.log is due.  The logs should show
> you when the user has logged in, and from what remote IP addresses.  it
> should be quite simple to correlate those times and locations with your
> user.
>

Thank you, that did give me the information that I needed.

> 'whois 11.22.33.44' on those IP addresses will get you an idea of the
> physical location (not precise in all cases, but an idea) the logins
> came from.
>

I did not realize that whois worked with IP addresses. Thanks.

> In any case - do not delay changing that user's password to a new strong
> one!
>

Done! Even though it was already strong (over 12 characters,
AlphaNumeric of varying case)

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Re: Unknown network traffic

2009-01-11 Thread Javier Barroso

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:08 PM, T o n g  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've tried all the network bandwidth monitoring tools that I know to find
> out the unknown network traffic I'm having now, I've tried iftop, netstat,
> lsof and pktstat, and still can't find out the result. Please help.
Perhaps capturing packets with wireshark / tcpdump could help you to
interpret that traffic.

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Question about twisted.conch.telnet

Something on one of my computers is triggering a warning 
message form cron.daily about deprecation twisted.conch.telnet.
I have no idea what this is, and little confidence that I
could arrive at a workable fix thru self study. Is this a
known problem? i.e. known to release manager for Lenny? Or
someone else? 

The message arrives by email. It reads:
Subject: Cron  test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts
--report /etc/cron.daily )

/etc/cron.daily/logrotate:
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/twisted/manhole/telnet.py:8:
+DeprecationWarning: As of Twisted 2.1, twisted.protocols.telnet is deprecated.
+See twisted.conch.telnet for the current, supported API.
  from twisted.protocols import telnet
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/twisted/manhole/telnet.py:8:
+DeprecationWarning: As of Twisted 2.1, twisted.protocols.telnet is deprecated.
+See twisted.conch.telnet for the current, supported API.
  from twisted.protocols import telnet

Nothing that I notice is misbehaving on gq. I don't use telnet. I'm puzzled.

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Re: Debian AMD64

On Sun January 11 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> The .run files are containers,
> >
> > 18 meg shell scripts..
>
> More than that!
>
> # ls -1 NVID*177.82*run
> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run
> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.82-pkg2.run

I think you meant ls -l
ls -l NVID*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 pbc  pbc  19865216 2008-07-08 08:00 
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.09-pkg1.run
-rw-r--r-- 1 pbc  pbc  19869479 2008-08-06 19:20 
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run

wait, you have 177.82 ??? 
> 
> >
> > I'm assuming this is the part that needs to come from the amd64 build?
>
> I don't remember that part.  Are you running a 64-bit kernel yet?
no, just getting my ducks in a row first.. I did get the kernel & header files 
and updated grub, I just haven't rebooted YET..

>
> $ uname -m
> x86_64
uname -m
i686

ls -l /boot
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   88589 2008-07-18 16:22 config-2.6.25-2-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   91651 2008-12-15 17:43 config-2.6.26-1-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   85599 2008-12-15 17:47 config-2.6.26-1-amd64
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root4096 2009-01-10 15:59 grub
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6793424 2008-08-18 07:39 initrd.img-2.6.25-2-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6795167 2008-08-15 15:56 initrd.img-2.6.25-2-686.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7217562 2008-12-20 08:40 initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6943610 2008-10-06 09:15 initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7290666 2009-01-10 15:58 initrd.img-2.6.26-1-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   20068 2007-12-04 17:21 memdisk
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  103212 2008-03-24 16:08 memtest86.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  124152 2008-10-02 21:27 memtest86+.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  918470 2008-07-18 16:22 System.map-2.6.25-2-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  928053 2008-12-15 17:43 System.map-2.6.26-1-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1225518 2008-12-15 17:47 System.map-2.6.26-1-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1484448 2008-07-18 16:21 vmlinuz-2.6.25-2-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1505712 2008-12-15 17:43 vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1755088 2008-12-15 17:46 vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-amd64




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Re: lenny cd live problem

2009-01-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 06:47:29PM -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Hi!,
>
> I am trying to test lenny using the i386 cd live image from  
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/, dated in 12/20/2008. After  
> downloading the iso file and verifying that the md5sum is ok, I burned  
> the cd, using 4x to be safe. But each time I want to boot using this cd  
> image I get the message:
>
> Loading /live/vmlinuz1.isolinux: Disk error 20, AX=42AC, drive EF
>
> I tried in two different machines, with the same result. Could the  
> isolinux file be corrupted?

Insert the cd and check its checksum . e.g.:

  md5sum /dev/cdrom

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Re: lenny cd live problem

2009-01-11 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin

Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
>> Hm... try another media?
>>
> 
> I tried 2 medias. The first burned at 24x, the second burned at 4x. All
> media are from the same cd set. I didn't have any problem with this
> media set before
Then, maybe, it's an error in daily build. Please use 'reportbug' ulitity
to report this against 'installation-reports' package.

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Re: lenny cd live problem

2009-01-11 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin

Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Hi!,
> 
> I am trying to test lenny using the i386 cd live image from
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/, dated in 12/20/2008. After
> downloading the iso file and verifying that the md5sum is ok, I burned
> the cd, using 4x to be safe. But each time I want to boot using this cd
> image I get the message:
> 
> Loading /live/vmlinuz1.isolinux: Disk error 20, AX=42AC, drive EF
> 
> I tried in two different machines, with the same result. Could the
> isolinux file be corrupted?
Hm... try another media?

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lenny cd live problem

2009-01-11 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini


Hi!,

I am trying to test lenny using the i386 cd live image from 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/, dated in 12/20/2008. After 
downloading the iso file and verifying that the md5sum is ok, I burned 
the cd, using 4x to be safe. But each time I want to boot using this cd 
image I get the message:


Loading /live/vmlinuz1.isolinux: Disk error 20, AX=42AC, drive EF

I tried in two different machines, with the same result. Could the 
isolinux file be corrupted?


Thanks in advance!

Marcelo

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009-01-11 Thread Robert Brockway


On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:


On a machine that I have root access to, how can I see who is logged
into the machine? Specifically, I suspect that  a malicious entity is
logging on in a compromised account over SSH, even while the account's
user is sitting at the machine and logged in, so if I can catch two
simultaneous login sessions (one on the physical hardware, one over
ssh) then I can be sure. Thanks.


w and who have been mentioned.  I generally prefer finger (which runs 
quite happily locally without a fingerd to connect to).


You probably also want to look at last[1] which will show a history of 
when users were logged in.


But...

If you really think the a/c has been compromised then don't wait for the 
baddie to log in again.  Lock the account.  Scan the box for anomalies 
(eg, checkrootkit) and take a particular interest in that a/c.


If you don't find any evidence that the baddie broke root then may wish to 
reset the a/c password and move on.  If you find any evidence that the 
baddie broke root then best practice is to restore the box from known good 
backups.  You can never guarantee that you found all of the backdoors that 
a cracker may have left on a system.


I'll stop now as there is a lot more I could say on this topic but it 
isn't necessary at this stage.


[1] I comment out the entry concerning wtmp in 
/etc/logrotate.conf as this allows the login history to remain 
indefinitely.  Even for multi-user boxes that have been running for years 
I haven't found a problem doing this.  wtmp is tiny so disk space is 
hardly an issue.


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Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-11 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

On Sunday 2009 January 11 08:17:19 Joerg Schilling wrote:
>Then please follow the Nettiquette rules and send Cc:'s!

The rules for this mailing list are available from the URL I posted.  Please 
follow them and do not CC me on posts to the list.  If you would like to be 
CC'd on posts to the list, you'll need to ask for them.  I will take the 
quoted text as a request to be CC'd on this message.

>"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."  wrote:
>> I claimed
>> that wodim has had more stable releases since the fork than cdrtools. 
>
>The minimum requirements one need to have on a "stable release" is that it
>does not have known bugs at the time of piublishing.

We have different requirements for a stable release.

>Cdrecord had 50 stable releases that match the requirements within the past
>three years.

These do not meet my requirements for a stable release.  They are explicitly 
marked as "alpha" by the person/group releasing them.  For me, that means 
they are not stable releases.

>If you speak for the Debian community,

I speak for only myself.

>> cdrkit, wodim in particular, is working.  I've used it many times in the
>> last few years.
>
>cdrkit is not working

I disagree.  Next time I burn a CD with wodim, shall I send you the logs to 
show that wodim is working?  Or perhaps post them to a public forum?

>If Paul makes a bug report, this will just add another bug to the long list
> of bugs in cdrkit but it will not result in a bugfix.

Since previous bugs files have resulted in a bugfix, I choose not to believe 
your predictions of the future.

> People who like to 
> write CDs, DVDs or BDs just use the original software because Debian does
> anything to prevent a vanilla Debian to be useful for this task.

I like to write CDs and DVDs; I use wodim (and other programs from the cdrkit 
project).  Unfortunately, I do not yet own a BD writer.
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Re: parallel to scsi converters question


On 01/11/09 12:48, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I have a parallel to scsi converter and a jazz drive.  If I hook that up 
to the debian box I have running, how will debian see that drive?  I 
expect I can activate parallel port support but once done what kind of a 
new device should I expect to find?


Probably an sd or sg device.

If the parport driver is loaded and udev is running, I'd just plug 
it in and see what happens.


# tail -f /var/log/syslog

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Re: Debian AMD64


On 01/11/09 13:07, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On Sun January 11 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:

The .run files are containers,

18 meg shell scripts..


More than that!

# ls -1 NVID*177.82*run
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run
NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.82-pkg2.run

I wouldn't do this from within X.  But then, I'm chicken and use startx.


with --no-kernel-module

You need both the 32-bit *and* 64-bit .run files.

64-bit for the module, and 32-bit for everything else.


do you still have a copy of the file you used that worked??

I see the part in the I686 for local_arch:

# Perform a platform check

LOCAL_OS=`uname 2> /dev/null`
LOCAL_ARCH=`uname -m 2> /dev/null`

[ "$LOCAL_ARCH" = "i386" ] && LOCAL_ARCH="x86"
[ "$LOCAL_ARCH" = "i486" ] && LOCAL_ARCH="x86"
[ "$LOCAL_ARCH" = "i586" ] && LOCAL_ARCH="x86"
[ "$LOCAL_ARCH" = "i686" ] && LOCAL_ARCH="x86"

I'm assuming this is the part that needs to come from the amd64 build?


I don't remember that part.  Are you running a 64-bit kernel yet?

$ uname -m
x86_64

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Dell E5500 notebook and Debian support

2009-01-11 Thread tanushyam bhattacharjee

Hi All,

I am going to purchase a dell E5500 notebook and Debian Linux will be used as 
OS.I am interested to know whether latest Debian kernel supports the wireless 
and graphics of this model or not.
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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot

2009-01-11 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom


Pavlos Parissis wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:49:23 +
"Dean Chester"  wrote:


Hi
Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot time. Its embarrassing that
Vista boots up quicker than debian.
Dean



http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/620



good hint

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parallel to scsi converters question

2009-01-11 Thread Jude DaShiell

I have a parallel to scsi converter and a jazz drive.  If I hook that up 
to the debian box I have running, how will debian see that drive?  I 
expect I can activate parallel port support but once done what kind of a 
new device should I expect to find?




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Re: Debian AMD64

On Sun January 11 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> The .run files are containers,
18 meg shell scripts..

>
> > with --no-kernel-module
>
> You need both the 32-bit *and* 64-bit .run files.
>
> 64-bit for the module, and 32-bit for everything else.

do you still have a copy of the file you used that worked??

I see the part in the I686 for local_arch:

# Perform a platform check

LOCAL_OS=`uname 2> /dev/null`
LOCAL_ARCH=`uname -m 2> /dev/null`

[ "$LOCAL_ARCH" = "i386" ] && LOCAL_ARCH="x86"
[ "$LOCAL_ARCH" = "i486" ] && LOCAL_ARCH="x86"
[ "$LOCAL_ARCH" = "i586" ] && LOCAL_ARCH="x86"
[ "$LOCAL_ARCH" = "i686" ] && LOCAL_ARCH="x86"

I'm assuming this is the part that needs to come from the amd64 build?

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming


On 01/10/09 19:27, Celejar wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:49:18 -0600
Ron Johnson  wrote:

...


clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.


I'm not sure that there's generally any need to convert them; mplayer is
perfectly happy with files with .flv extensions.


True.  But IIRC, the mp4 files are smaller.

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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot


On 01/11/09 11:49, Dean Chester wrote:

Hi
Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot time. Its embarrassing that 
Vista boots up quicker than debian.


If you only reboot your machine once or twice a month, does it 
matter whether boot times are slow?


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Re: Debian AMD64


On 01/10/09 13:58, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On Sat January 10 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:

Linux paulandcilla 2.6.26-1-amd64

Yup.  I did it myself at the beginning of last month.  (Except I
rolled my own kernel.)

I tried that once, I obviously didn't do everything right..


It takes some practice.  And hardware knowledge...


Note that, officially, you'll have to get rid of any binary video
driver and go with the corresponding xserver-xorg-video-* driver,
but you *can* run the 64-bit nvidia driver and 32-bit libs with a
little effort.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=112900


I have a Dell with NVIDIA GeForce card.. right now I use the sgfx -c from a 
terminal to update the driver.

are you saying you use the NVIDIA..###.run and then:
Extract the .run and then run the 'nvidia-installer' inside it 


The .run files are containers,


with --no-kernel-module


You need both the 32-bit *and* 64-bit .run files.

64-bit for the module, and 32-bit for everything else.

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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot

2009-01-11 Thread Pavlos Parissis

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:49:23 +
"Dean Chester"  wrote:

> Hi
> Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot time. Its embarrassing that
> Vista boots up quicker than debian.
> Dean
> 

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/620


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Speeding up Debian Boot

2009-01-11 Thread Dean Chester

Hi
Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot time. Its embarrassing that
Vista boots up quicker than debian.
Dean

Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009-01-11 Thread Michael Shuler

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On a machine that I have root access to, how can I see who is logged
> into the machine? Specifically, I suspect that  a malicious entity is
> logging on in a compromised account over SSH, even while the account's
> user is sitting at the machine and logged in, so if I can catch two
> simultaneous login sessions (one on the physical hardware, one over
> ssh) then I can be sure. Thanks.
> 

Since it has not been mentioned in the other replies, I would certainly
think that scrutiny of /var/log/auth.log is due.  The logs should show
you when the user has logged in, and from what remote IP addresses.  it
should be quite simple to correlate those times and locations with your
user.

'whois 11.22.33.44' on those IP addresses will get you an idea of the
physical location (not precise in all cases, but an idea) the logins
came from.

In any case - do not delay changing that user's password to a new strong
one!

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Re: Re: AMD Turion ZM82: freeze with 2 cores, works with 1 core (maxcpus=1)

2009-01-11 Thread Mitchell Laks

On 11:28 Sun 11 Jan , Adrian Levi wrote:
> 2009/1/11 Mitchell Laks :
> 
> 
> > I would try to explore the idea that the CPU or motherboard is defective. 
> > Perhaps the second core is bad.
> >
> > I had a problem with memory sticks that was similar. One stick worked and 
> > not two. I first found that
> > there was a bad memory stick ( 1 out of 2). then after replacing it, it 
> > happened again and it needed a
> > bios upgrade of the motherboard to work. I used memtest96+ to diagnose my 
> > problems.
> >
> > Perhaps you can find a testing software for the dual  core cpu from your 
> > cpu or motherboard vendor
> >
> > Mitchell
> 
> UBCD has numerous cpu testing programs on it, perhaps one of those?
> 
> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
> 
> Adrian

I have reconsidered the issue.

I would approach your problem in a systematic way. You have some data. 

CPU seems to lock up with dual core set up. You find it with Debian install, 
but not with Windows. Bah I don't believe that. 
Check using live CD: knoppix or finnix or some other ones. After booting try 
some tests.

Make sure to do Mem86+ test for the ram and make sure your ram is good. Very 
often RAM is bad and can be confusing.
you need to systematically test this stuff.

Look at this Great Article:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-hw1/
Linux hardware stability guide, Part 1
CPU and memory troubleshooting
Daniel Robbins (drobb...@gentoo.org), President/CEO, Gentoo Technologies, Inc.

Good luck,

Mitchell

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> ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my
> apartment it is.
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Re: Lightweight alternative to imagemagick?

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 08:41:55 -0600, Kumar Appaiah 
(a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in) wrote: 

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 07:40:37AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> > > I want to resize jpeg images (in order to create thumbnail images for a
> > > webpage) from a bash script and know that I can use 'convert' from the
> > > imagemagick package to achieve this.  This will be run on a (headless,
> > > no X) lenny/armel NSLU2 "slug".
> > 
> >  GIMP  ships  with a second binary called gimp-console. This binary is a
> >console-only version and  behaves  as  if  gimp  was  called  with  
> > the
> >--no-interface command-line option.
> 
> I think you refer to gimp-console. Does it solve the OPs problem of
> Imagemagick being too heavy? I suspect that installing Gimp will also
> pull in several X and GTK+ based dependencies which offer little value
> on a Slug...

Thank you for the suggestion Paul, but you are right Kumar: Gimp wanted to
pull in nearly 70 packages totalling 107MB.

> As for other options, I cannot think of any myself. However, I suspect
> that while Imagemagick convert will stress your SLUG a little, it
> might still do the job for you as long as you don't run much else on
> the Slug...

As it happens I have gone ahead and installed imagemagick and it works
fine.  I just wanted to avoid installing what seems like unnecessary
packages.  They won't actually be doing anything and I am not short of
disk space, so really it does not matter at all I suppose.

The slug is kept busy running motion (movement detecting with a webcam)
and saving the resulting images.  Using convert from imagemagick to
reduce these images for viewing on a webpage will only add a bit more
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Re: howto make root emacs open in X

2009-01-11 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2009-01-11 16:40 +0100, Martin wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 03:19:03PM +0100, Tom Rauchenwald wrote:
>> I don't emacs as root, i use tramp... simply open a file you want to
>> open as root with /sudo:: or /su:: prefixed. You will be prompted for a
>> password, and can then edit the file from your user's emacs.
>
> I try this but it does not work!
> I typed
> /sudo::/var/log/syslog
> to find-file prompt and this is what I got:
> FTP Error: OPEN request failed: ftp: sudo: Host name lookup failure
>
> I use emacs that comes with etch
> GNU Emacs 21.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
>  of 2007-01-04 on saens, modified by Debian
> Copyright (C) 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>
> I also have setup that enable user to use sudo without password and run
> all programs.
>
> My question is what exactly do I type in find-file prompt or do
> I need to use newer emacs?

For Emacs 21 you need the tramp¹ package.  It is included in Emacs 22
and later.

Sven


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Re: howto make root emacs open in X

2009-01-11 Thread Martin

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 03:19:03PM +0100, Tom Rauchenwald wrote:
> I don't emacs as root, i use tramp... simply open a file you want to
> open as root with /sudo:: or /su:: prefixed. You will be prompted for a
> password, and can then edit the file from your user's emacs.

I try this but it does not work!
I typed
/sudo::/var/log/syslog
to find-file prompt and this is what I got:
FTP Error: OPEN request failed: ftp: sudo: Host name lookup failure

I use emacs that comes with etch
GNU Emacs 21.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2007-01-04 on saens, modified by Debian
Copyright (C) 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

I also have setup that enable user to use sudo without password and run
all programs.

My question is what exactly do I type in find-file prompt or do
I need to use newer emacs?

Martin

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Re: Lightweight alternative to imagemagick?

2009-01-11 Thread Kumar Appaiah

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 07:40:37AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> > I want to resize jpeg images (in order to create thumbnail images for a
> > webpage) from a bash script and know that I can use 'convert' from the
> > imagemagick package to achieve this.  This will be run on a (headless,
> > no X) lenny/armel NSLU2 "slug".
> 
>  GIMP  ships  with a second binary called gimp-console. This binary is a
>console-only version and  behaves  as  if  gimp  was  called  with  the
>--no-interface command-line option.

I think you refer to gimp-console. Does it solve the OPs problem of
Imagemagick being too heavy? I suspect that installing Gimp will also
pull in several X and GTK+ based dependencies which offer little value
on a Slug...

As for other options, I cannot think of any myself. However, I suspect
that while Imagemagick convert will stress your SLUG a little, it
might still do the job for you as long as you don't run much else on
the Slug...

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming-SOLVED

2009-01-11 Thread Chris S

2009/1/11 Chris Bannister :
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:48:22AM +, Chris S wrote:
>> reult from last advice seemed to install ok details to follow but no affect
>> on the frame rate on u tube, I get a picture update about one a sec and a
>> half, I know it can't be hardware as nothing has changed in hardware or
>> connection speed, oh and when I right click the video and go to ? it lists
>
> Just a thought ... how many instances/tabs of iceweasel are you running?
>
> To eliminate network issues, I'd grab the youtube video and play it in
> mplayer. Install clive (or youtube-dl if its available) and get the
> video. Install mplayer. then:
> mplayer cvxdssd.flv (or whatever the .flv is called that clive or
> youtube-dl grabbed).
>
> The output from the "mplayer cvxdssd.flv" command may give some clues to
> your problem.
>
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> possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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Hey guys, just to let you all know that this problem is now solved
thanks to everyone for all your help, it was an issue with cpu load
using the flash plug in, I'n now using mplayer and it works perfectly.
Oh and thank you Paul for showing me how to close a problem in here, I
was away from PC last night or would of done it then. Again many
thanks for all your help and suggestions. May you all be blessed with
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Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-11 Thread Joerg Schilling

"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."  wrote:

> On Friday 2009 January 09 09:25:31 Joerg Schilling wrote:
> >There recently have been some mails from Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. and
> >Johannes Wiedersich that have not been send to me, so it seems that the
> >authors are not interested in a discussion.
>
> Actually, we are interested in discussion, but the are following the 

Then please follow the Nettiquette rules and send Cc:'s!

> I never claimed that there were no new releases of cdrtools.  I claimed that 
> wodim has had more stable releases since the fork than cdrtools.  Anyone can 
> verify my claim be going to http://www.cdrkit.org/releases/ and 
> ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ then counting the number of releases since 
> 2005 displayed.

Well, face the reality:

The minimum requirements one need to have on a "stable release" is that it
does not have known bugs at the time of piublishing. With this contraints,
wodim never had a stable release in it's lifetime.

Cdrecord had 50 stable releases that match the requirements within the past
three years. 

For wodim (better cdrkit in general), there are dozens of documented bugs that
are not fixed since years. Instead the people behind wodim publish fix typos
in the man pages and in the source comment in order to pretend activity.

If you speak for the Debian community, then it looks like Debian is if Debian
is completely uninterested in the Debian users.

> cdrkit, wodim in particular, is working.  I've used it many times in the last 
> few years.

cdrkit is not working and besides the problems from the _current_ thread
there are dozens of other bugs in cdrkit. Many of them are show stopper bugs as 
they make it impossible to use th software at all.

> > Did the 
> > initiator of wodim intentionally introduce bugs that make "cdrkit" unusable
> > in order to support closed source software?
>
> Doubtful.  Still, Debian and the cdrkit project welcome bug reports, which 
> will not be ignored.

 Are you again ignoring reality?

There is a Debian user (Paul) who cannot write DVDs because Debian does not
include working software (cdrtools).

Paul asked here and did not get help from the Debian cummunity.

Paul did get help from me and simply going to the vanilla original software
fixed his problem.

If Paul makes a bug report, this will just add another bug to the long list of
bugs in cdrkit but it will not result in a bugfix. People who like to write 
CDs, DVDs or BDs just use the original software because Debian does anything to
prevent a vanilla Debian to be useful for this task.

Do whatever you like but don't forget that your current habbit is anti-OSS and
against Debian users.

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

On Sun January 11 2009, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > Just typing "w" (without the quotes) should be adequate.
>
> While we're at it:
>
> "w" # (with the quotes) will actually do the same thing on the shell ;-)

wow.. fully formatted and much better info than even who -uT!!!

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

On Sun January 11 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> how can I see who is logged
> into the machine?

# who -uT
pbc  + tty7 2009-01-08 11:28   . 18900 (:0)
pbc  + pts/02009-01-08 15:58   . 19067 (:0.0)
pbc  + pts/12009-01-08 11:28 00:16   19067 (:0.0)
cilla+ tty8 2009-01-08 18:11 00:58   28825 (:20)

shows whether they are active & how long they have been logged in. and where 
from..
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Re: Lightweight alternative to imagemagick?

On Sun January 11 2009, Bob Cox wrote:
> I want to resize jpeg images (in order to create thumbnail images for a
> webpage) from a bash script and know that I can use 'convert' from the
> imagemagick package to achieve this.  This will be run on a (headless,
> no X) lenny/armel NSLU2 "slug".

 GIMP  ships  with a second binary called gimp-console. This binary is a
   console-only version and  behaves  as  if  gimp  was  called  with  the
   --no-interface command-line option.


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Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

On Sat January 10 2009, H.S. wrote:
> Brand and model is, I think, a personal choice depending on quality.
> Most important of these is the size and a reliable brand. For example, I
> have a little portable hard disk here (320GB I think) which I can
> connect to a laptop. It draws its power from the USB port and is a 3.2"
> disk (the ones that go in the laptops). I have another USB disk, which
> is actually a normal hard disk in an enclosure.

the MyBook models have their own transformer that plugs into the back of the 
unit, along with the USB cable. I have the 500Gb model, as does my son. He 
uses his for music, I use mine for backups..


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Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

On Sat January 10 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > yes, that is my bug report. When I type "reportbug" it started the
> > process. I'm not sure how it picked that namd/email combo, unless I
> > signed up for reportbug with it long ago I use my yahoo account for
> > some online STUFF where I don't want to give out my good email IDs..
>
> On my system, that information is stored in $HOME/.reportbugrc

yes, it is,thanks!
# name and email setting (if non-default)
# realname "Paul Cartwright"
email "x...@yahoo.com"

I'll change that!

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Yo! PR: Shawty Lo Drops First Single "Supplier", "Carlos" In The Works

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Re: Corrupt data - RAID sata_sil 3114 chip (solved)

2009-01-11 Thread Bengt Samuelsson




I hope the problem is solved!

Make sure you do not run dmraid and mdadm !
So, if you have truble mdadm RAID, check you do not run dmraid !

I found this.

/etc/rcS.d/S04dmraid
/etc/rcS.d/S25mdadm-raid
/etc/rc0.d/S50mdadm-raid
/etc/rc0.d/S51dmraid
/etc/rc6.d/S50mdadm-raid
/etc/rc6.d/S51dmraid

They is now like this
/etc/rcS.d/K04dmraid
/etc/rcS.d/S25mdadm-0-sata_sil_slowdown
/etc/rcS.d/S25mdadm-raid
/etc/rc0.d/S50mdadm-raid
/etc/rc0.d/K51dmraid
/etc/rc6.d/S50mdadm-raid
/etc/rc6.d/K51dmraid

I also make this just before mdadm_raid start to set the "15" block write.
/etc/init.d/sata_sil_slowdown just to make it a bit safer.
---
#!/bin/sh
#
chmod 0644 /sys/modules/sata_sil/parameters/slow_down
echo 1 > /sys/modules/sata_sil/parameters/slow_down
chmod 0444 /sys/modules/sata_sil/parameters/slow_down
#
exit 0
---

I have now, during I write this, run a testcopy for 29hrs, still running
copytest without errors. Before it shuld got in ro-mode.  :-)


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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009/1/11 Koh Choon Lin :
>>> "w" # (with the quotes) will actually do the same thing on the shell
>
> who has more info than w. :)
>

You tell me!

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Re: serial port program

2009-01-11 Thread Martin Kraus

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 04:47:50PM +0900, J.H.Kim wrote:
> Hi, everyone
> 
> Is there serial program like windows hypertermal in debian other than
> minicom?
> When I use minicom, it is killed after being received non-ascii characters.
> I want to serial program to minitor rs-232 which shows ascii characters
> and hex data.

you may use screen like this:

screen /dev/ttyS0 115200

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009-01-11 Thread Koh Choon Lin

>> > Just typing "w" (without the quotes) should be adequate.
>>
>> While we're at it:
>>
>> "w" # (with the quotes) will actually do the same thing on the shell

who has more info than w. :)


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Re: Who is logged into this box?

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:01:59 +, Tzafrir Cohen (tzaf...@cohens.org.il) 
wrote: 

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 09:01:57AM +, Bob Cox wrote:
> 
> > Just typing "w" (without the quotes) should be adequate.
> 
> While we're at it:
> 
> "w" # (with the quotes) will actually do the same thing on the shell ;-)

You are right - thank you!   Next time I shall have to say something
like "the quotes are not necessary", or, more correctly "the quotation
marks are not necessary".

Personally, I call them inverted commas, but I think that's a British
English thing.

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Re: howto make root emacs open in X

2009-01-11 Thread Osamu Aoki

Hi,

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 02:07:38AM -0600, Harry P wrote:
> Osamu Aoki  writes:
> 
> > Hmmm... you must have set up passwordless SSH to root.  

Come to think of ... passwordless SSH is quite secure.  I was tired :-)

> I hope this sshd
> > is not accessible from Internet.  You may be attacked easily.
> >
> > You can set sudo not to request password to become root too.  (Setting
> > this up like this also makes your user's system less secure but at least
> > intruders must have shell access first with sudo.)
> 
> Probably should really start a new for this but let me ask about
> something above:
> 
> First, no the sshd is NOT accessible from internet and it is setup
> with authorized_keys so still some security.

Yes.

> About setting sudo for passwordless... yes I know how to do that, but
> I ran into some confusing problems with environment when using sudo.
> 
> For example, many functions I keep in a file on ~/.SYS_RR_ENV that I
> pass from machine to machine  (also at /root/.SYS_RR_ENV), these
> functions are unknown to the root I get through  sudo.
> 
> I know that can be tweaked too but I found it confusing and would
> sooner use ssh which gives full login env.

sudo without -H option keeps $HOME as old user's one.  If you want what
you said, use "ssh -H".


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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009-01-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 09:01:57AM +, Bob Cox wrote:

> Just typing "w" (without the quotes) should be adequate.

While we're at it:

"w" # (with the quotes) will actually do the same thing on the shell ;-)

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009-01-11 Thread Rick Thomas



On Jan 11, 2009, at 4:16 AM, steve wrote:


i often wondered where some of these commands got their name from
myself. w?  and that is short for user in what way??



It's short for "who(1)", which does much the same thing, but  
differently.


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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009-01-11 Thread steve

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/11 steve :
>> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>> On a machine that I have root access to, how can I see who is logged
>>> into the machine? Specifically, I suspect that  a malicious entity is
>>> logging on in a compromised account over SSH, even while the account's
>>> user is sitting at the machine and logged in, so if I can catch two
>>> simultaneous login sessions (one on the physical hardware, one over
>>> ssh) then I can be sure. Thanks.
>>>
>> I believe just type w in a command line should dump all users.
>>
> 
> What ever happened to long, complicated commands?!?
> 
> Thanks!
> 

ok lol

 w -h -u -s -f -o  >users.txt


i often wondered where some of these commands got their name from
myself. w?  and that is short for user in what way??






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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009/1/11 steve :
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> On a machine that I have root access to, how can I see who is logged
>> into the machine? Specifically, I suspect that  a malicious entity is
>> logging on in a compromised account over SSH, even while the account's
>> user is sitting at the machine and logged in, so if I can catch two
>> simultaneous login sessions (one on the physical hardware, one over
>> ssh) then I can be sure. Thanks.
>>
>
> I believe just type w in a command line should dump all users.
>

What ever happened to long, complicated commands?!?

Thanks!

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:54:25 +0200, Dotan Cohen (dotanco...@gmail.com) 
wrote: 

> On a machine that I have root access to, how can I see who is logged
> into the machine? Specifically, I suspect that  a malicious entity is
> logging on in a compromised account over SSH, even while the account's
> user is sitting at the machine and logged in, so if I can catch two
> simultaneous login sessions (one on the physical hardware, one over
> ssh) then I can be sure. Thanks.

Just typing "w" (without the quotes) should be adequate.

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Re: Who is logged into this box?

2009-01-11 Thread steve

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On a machine that I have root access to, how can I see who is logged
> into the machine? Specifically, I suspect that  a malicious entity is
> logging on in a compromised account over SSH, even while the account's
> user is sitting at the machine and logged in, so if I can catch two
> simultaneous login sessions (one on the physical hardware, one over
> ssh) then I can be sure. Thanks.
> 

I believe just type w in a command line should dump all users.





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Who is logged into this box?

On a machine that I have root access to, how can I see who is logged
into the machine? Specifically, I suspect that  a malicious entity is
logging on in a compromised account over SSH, even while the account's
user is sitting at the machine and logged in, so if I can catch two
simultaneous login sessions (one on the physical hardware, one over
ssh) then I can be sure. Thanks.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Bannister

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:48:22AM +, Chris S wrote:
> reult from last advice seemed to install ok details to follow but no affect
> on the frame rate on u tube, I get a picture update about one a sec and a
> half, I know it can't be hardware as nothing has changed in hardware or
> connection speed, oh and when I right click the video and go to ? it lists

Just a thought ... how many instances/tabs of iceweasel are you running?

To eliminate network issues, I'd grab the youtube video and play it in
mplayer. Install clive (or youtube-dl if its available) and get the
video. Install mplayer. then:
mplayer cvxdssd.flv (or whatever the .flv is called that clive or
youtube-dl grabbed).

The output from the "mplayer cvxdssd.flv" command may give some clues to
your problem.

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than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other
possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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Re: serial port program

2009-01-11 Thread Arthur Marsh

J.H.Kim wrote, on 2009-01-11 18:17:
> Hi, everyone
> 
> Is there serial program like windows hypertermal in debian other than
>  minicom? When I use minicom, it is killed after being received
> non-ascii characters. I want to serial program to minitor rs-232
> which shows ascii characters and hex data.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards, J.H.Kim
> 
> 

You may wish to look at ckermit in non-free or grab the latest source
from ftp://ftp.columbia.edu/kermit/test/tar/x.tar.gz

Information on C-Kermit is available at http://www.columbia.edu/kermit

Arthur.


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Re: AMD64 No sound



M. Lewis wrote:

M. Lewis wrote:

Lenny
KDE

I decided to change from 686 to AMD64 architecture after all the buzz 
the past few days about the virtues of using the AMD64 architecture. 
After installing Lenny, I have no sound at all. (with 686, I had sound 
from the install, no problem).


moe:~# lspci | grep -i audio
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)

moe:~#  cat /proc/asound/cards
--- no soundcards ---

moe:~# cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux moe 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 17:25:36 UTC 2008 
x86_64

Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
--- no soundcards ---

Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

moe:~# ls -l /dev/{snd,dsp}
ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
/dev/snd:
total 0
crw-rw 1 root audio 116,  1 2009-01-10 07:28 seq
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 2009-01-10 07:28 timer


I've done a good bit of searching in the archives, but as of yet I've 
not found a solution.


Thanks in advance,
Mike



Doing more digging, I find I also have this [1] problem (problem #1). 
I'm not sure if the two issues are related at all. I have tried booting 
with iommu=soft, still no sound.


[1] http://marc.info/?l=debian-user&m=122797497510015&w=2


I may be getting closer to the solution. I did get sound out of the 
machine a few minutes ago. I found this entry in /var/log/messages when 
the sound was working:


Jan 11 02:04:28 moe kernel: [ 6431.540366] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 
:00:14.2[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
Jan 11 02:06:39 moe kernel: [ 6578.403702] hda-intel: Invalid position 
buffer, using LPIB read method instead.



After a reboot and trying to use the sound, I see these messages in 
/var/log/messages:


Jan 11 02:16:20 moe kernel: [  354.828388] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 
:00:14.2[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
Jan 11 02:16:20 moe kernel: [  354.858407] ACPI: PCI interrupt for 
device :00:14.2 disabled
Jan 11 02:16:29 moe kernel: [  364.409661] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 
:00:14.2[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
Jan 11 02:16:29 moe kernel: [  364.437812] ACPI: PCI interrupt for 
device :00:14.2 disabled
Jan 11 02:17:12 moe kernel: [  410.171457] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 
:00:14.2[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
Jan 11 02:17:12 moe kernel: [  410.203559] ACPI: PCI interrupt for 
device :00:14.2 disabled



So it would seem that my sound is not getting (for some strange reason) 
an interrupt because it is disabled. Note, nothing was changed in the 
BIOS during this reboot.


Thanks for any clues,
Mike



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Re: howto make root emacs open in X

2009-01-11 Thread Harry P

Osamu Aoki  writes:

> Hmmm... you must have set up passwordless SSH to root.  I hope this sshd
> is not accessible from Internet.  You may be attacked easily.
>
> You can set sudo not to request password to become root too.  (Setting
> this up like this also makes your user's system less secure but at least
> intruders must have shell access first with sudo.)

Probably should really start a new for this but let me ask about
something above:

First, no the sshd is NOT accessible from internet and it is setup
with authorized_keys so still some security.

About setting sudo for passwordless... yes I know how to do that, but
I ran into some confusing problems with environment when using sudo.

For example, many functions I keep in a file on ~/.SYS_RR_ENV that I
pass from machine to machine  (also at /root/.SYS_RR_ENV), these
functions are unknown to the root I get through  sudo.

I know that can be tweaked too but I found it confusing and would
sooner use ssh which gives full login env.

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Lightweight alternative to imagemagick?