Re: Acer Aspire One A110 16GB Linux

[Bob Cox]

On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 00:29:17 +0200, Sven Hoexter (s...@timegate.de) wrote: 

> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 08:56:58PM +0100, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> 
> > Or I can install Debian - I know there's a Wiki page but can anybody 
> > give me clear advice on support for the Wifi / any other devices under 
> > Lenny.
> 
> I've the older model with the 8GB SSD and to be honest the SSD sucks.
> It's awful slow. I'd prefer the HDD version if possible.
> 
> - wifi works with the non-free madwifi driver.

I think this Acer uses the same Atheron wireless chipset as my Samsung
NC10.  By using the 2.6.29 kernel from sid, this chipset is natively
supported and should "just work" without any fiddling.


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can not start apache in lenny

[Vazrik Israelian]

I recently upgraded to lenny (stable), and I can not get apache to start.  It 
fails at boot time, and when starting it manually, it fails the same way:

#/etc/init.d/apache2 start

Starting web server: apache2apache2: ../sysdeps/posix/getaddrinfo.c:1463: 
rfc3484_sort: Assertion `src->results[i].native == -1 || src->results[i].native 
== a2_native' failed.
/usr/sbin/apache2ctl: line 83:  4369 Aborted $HTTPD 
${APACHE_ARGUMENTS} -k $ARGV
 failed!

I have been at this for a while.  All my searches, and readings did not result 
to any solution.

sources.list:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ stable main

Any help is appreciated. 

Thanks,

Vazrik

2.6.18 Modular Kernel has No Sound.

[Martin McCormick]

I have an etch system that has been running a 2.6.5
kernel and it is time to upgrade it to something more  modern.
The 2.6.5 kernel worked well but our organization is using VPN
so I need to update things so that vpnc will work.

After a coworker convinced me to try a modular kernel
instead of building another one, I downloaded 
what appears to be the newest kernel from debian.org:

#aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686

This got a 2.6.18 modular kernel so I tried it. It
appears to work fine except for sound. My old kernel works
beautifully with alsa. The new kernel actually found the sound
card but then begin complaining that the sound device was busy
during the boot process. Game over for sound.

Everything else appears fine.

Is there any way to guide this process a bit to make the
sound work again?

I now know the recommended way to build a custom kernel
so I could fall back to doing that again, but surely there is a
way to get the CS4236 sound chips matched up with the right
module.

Fortunately, grub still points to the old kernel by
default for now so, for the time being, I am back to the 2.6.5
kernel and sound pouring out of the speakers.:-)

Martin McCormick


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Re: Nvidia driver and second screen

[Alex Samad]

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:54:49PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Fri,01.May.09, 15:43:39, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu schreef:
> > > On Fri,01.May.09, 16:19:01, Alex Samad wrote:
> > >  

[snip]

> My reply was to Alex Samad, to point out that the 173xx driver has been 
> updated (in unstable) to support 2.6.29 kernels.
many thanks,
too many things to check 

> 
> Regards,
> Andrei



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RE: execution of exim by user

[Peter Crawford]

Chris,

"If by that you're referring to a UNIX/Linux system, ..."

Any system providing a command line is sufficient.  
It could be a DEC VT100 or an Atari or a Mac Plus. 
Cut & paste saves typing and that is enough for most 
purposes.

"I would recommend that you use /usr/lib/sendmail as 
the executable target as it's always there regardless 
of the actual MTA."

OK.  If, five years hence, sendmail moves to /usr/share/ 
my template will still fail.  But then I should remember 
to check the path.

Thanks,... p. c.



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Re: failed fsck on boot

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

2009/5/1 明覺 

> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis 
> wrote:
> > I'm using Debian Lenny i386 on my desktop. After every few months, my
> > computer would failed to boot properly (stuck on fsck). Then I need to
> enter
> > recovery mode then manually run fsck. A friend suggested that this is
> caused
> > by bad power supply. There are statics on the computer casing but I want
> to
> > clarify with those who had similar experience.
>
> I ever had experience a little similiar with yours, my debian system
> crashed 3 times in 10 days, it was said to be caused by a harddisk
> problem, but my harddisk is quit new, and windows installed in another
> partition works fine. I think it might be caused by Samba and
> Pidgin(with heavy network tranffic and frequent harddisk writes), i'm
> not sure whether my guess is true. but for my new installations, i
> didn't install samba, and disabled those accounts with heavy traffic
> in pidgin, only kept accounts with normal traffic in pidgin.
>

The only program with frequent hard disk writes is deluge. I gues that
explains no matter what OS I'm using since I'm always downloading files it
will still happens. Any workaround?

>
> >
> > TIA.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Umarzuki Mochlis
> > http://gameornot.net
> >
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Re: why must emacs depend on sound packages?

[John Hasler]

jidanni wrote:
> Why must emacs depend on sound packages?

I had never noticed that.  Pretty objectionable, I think.  I have no use
for sound in Emacs.  It should be at most a "Suggests".

Chris Jones writes:
> I don't want to turn this into a flamewar, but couldn't you use another
> editor, like vi, vim, nano, pico or ed?

I use both Emacs and Vi.

> ... and there you have it.. I think that the correct answer is that emacs
> is not an editor..

Its primary function is editing.  Therefor it is an editor.
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Re: why must emacs depend on sound packages?

[Chris Jones]

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:31:47PM EDT, Harry Rickards wrote:
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> jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> > Why must emacs depend on sound packages? Is emacs
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000 and will talk to us?
> > Isn't that an independent package, emacspeak?
> > 
> > Shouldn't there be a way to install an emacs without sound packages?
> > Even the nox version depends on them. Does emacs say things more than
> > "beep" often?
> > 
> > 
> I don't want to turn this into a flamewar, but couldn't you use another
> editor, like vi, vim, nano, pico or ed?

.. and there you have it.. I think that the correct answer is that emacs
is not an editor..

CJ


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Re: kernel-package??

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Fri, May 01 2009, Randy Patterson wrote:


> My intention at this point is to make a detailed list of the
> components on a particular system so I can remove everything that is
> not needed. These would be older systems that will never be upgraded
> or need new hardware so the kernel don't need a lot of options
> concerning hardware. For example, I have used ext3 on the drives and
> they don't need to access anything else and will remove all support
> for ext2, ext4, NTFS and everything else.  I intend to compile
> everything into the kernel without using modules. It's my
> understanding from what I have read that this will result in a leaner
> and some what faster kernel for that system. Is that a reasonable
> assumption and approach?

This is what I do. I do not use modules or initramfs, and it has
 cut down my boot time by about 50%, according to bootchard.

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Re: Acer Aspire One A110 16GB Linux

[Sven Hoexter]

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 08:56:58PM +0100, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

> Or I can install Debian - I know there's a Wiki page but can anybody 
> give me clear advice on support for the Wifi / any other devices under 
> Lenny.

I've the older model with the 8GB SSD and to be honest the SSD sucks.
It's awful slow. I'd prefer the HDD version if possible.

- wifi works with the non-free madwifi driver.

- Everything else works out of the box except for the cardreaders. I didn't
bother with it but I remember some kernel oopses when I had a XD card in the
left reader and tried to boot.

- It's a bit more complex to get the wifi to support the european channels 12+
but works after some fiddling and searching.

Sven
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Re: execution of exim by user

[Chris Davies]

> What is it you want to achieve?

Peter Crawford  wrote:
> Initiate a message via the command interface.Which has merit when
> initiating a message from a non-linux system.

If by that you're referring to a UNIX/Linux system, I would recommend
that you use /usr/lib/sendmail as the executable target as it's always
there regardless of the actual MTA.

Chris


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Re: network configuration for Eth0

[Paul Cartwright]

On Fri May 1 2009, Bob Cox wrote:
> What I would expect to see is something a bit like this:
>
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.10.103
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 192.168.10.1
> network 192.168.10.0
> broadcast 192.168.10.255
>
> (assuming you have a router of that IP address of course).
>
> If you *do* have network-manager installed then this could be the cause
> of many of your woes.

rc  network-manager 0.6.5-3 

network management framework daemon
rc  network-manager-gnome   0.6.5-3 

network management framework (GNOME frontend)


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Re: network configuration for Eth0

[Paul Cartwright]

On Fri May 1 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > this is what I had that didn't work:
> > #static setup
> > #auto eth0
> > #iface eth0 inet static
> > #address 192.168.10.103
> > #netmask 255.255.255.0
> > #broadcast 192.168.10.255
> > here is what I have now:
# The loopback network interface
auto lo 
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

> >
> > what's wrong with it?
>
> Something's missing here; what did you have, and what do you have now?
I hit SEND a bit too fast..


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Re: network configuration for Eth0

[Paul Cartwright]

On Fri May 1 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > auto lo
> > iface lo inet loopback
> >
> > auto eth0
> > iface eth0 inet static
> > address 192.168.10.103
> > netmask 255.255.255.0
> > gateway 192.168.10.1
> > network 192.168.10.0
> > broadcast 192.168.10.255
>
> Nitpick: 'network' and 'broadcast' are optional and gateway is necessary
> only if this interface is used to connect to the internet.

yes gateway is my router that my PC is connected to.
router connected to DSL modem.

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Re: Question about get-selections

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Besides the discussion about how to preserve the installed packages state, I
would also backup the file /var/cache/debconf/config.dat which helps to restore
the configuration of the configurable installed packages. But I don't know how
to do it automatically but I think its described in the man page debconf(7) of
the debconf-doc package.
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Re: xorg (fglrx, radeon, radeonhd, vesa) not working after upgrade

[Anthony Campbell]

On 01 May 2009, Stefan Bellon wrote:
> thveillon.debian wrote:
> > you'll be sorry to hear that your card is now a "legacy" one
> > according to AMD/ATI. They dropped support for a bunch of card with
> > the 9.4 release.
> 
> > http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.9&lang=English
> 
> No, if you have a close look at this page, you'll notice that a lot of
> cards are legacy, but not the X1400 one which my ThinkPad T60 has.
> 
> > So I guess the Sid version is too new for you, you can install an
> > older fglrx (9.3) or stick with the free driver.
> 
> But nevertheless, even if my X1400 was legacy and not supported in
> fglrx anymore (which is not the case), then the main problem is that
> neither radeonhd, nor radeon, nor plain vesa seem to work right now.
> THIS is my problem.
> 
> Still being very grateful for hints.
> 
> Greetings,
> Stefan
> 
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I have the same card and it is working well on Sid, with 3d
acceleration, using radeonhd. Make sure have firmware-linux (see bug
523724).

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Re: network configuration for Eth0

[Paul Cartwright]

On Fri May 1 2009, Bob Cox wrote:
> > Nitpick: 'network' and 'broadcast' are optional and gateway is necessary
> > only if this interface is used to connect to the internet.
>
> Good points.  I like nitpicking ;-)
>
> As an aside, I use static IPs on everything here with no wireless and
> all manually configured as per my example.  
that is what I am trying to do, take away the DHCP and make them static. I 
have my desktop, a laptop that I connect using a wired connection, and my 
wifes laptop. I also have some other test servers that get turned on every so 
often..
I am using dyndns and port forwarding to my desktop for http..  so I want a 
static IP in my network for my desktop.

>
> The only exception to this is a recently acquired laptop with which I
> wanted to use both wireless and DHCP and be able to control it all from
> a GUI interface; something I have not done before.  I tried and failed
> with the kde front-end to network manager and in the end purged all
> traces of them and installing wicd ("aptitude show wicd" describes it
> well).  It is really excellent and just works, seamlessly restoring
> networking after suspending and so on and allowing easy switching from
> wired to wireless and so on.



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Re: Re: Re: Hideous font when printing text file

[Henk Koster]

Yup, that looks like the problem. I'll be using a2ps  for now.
Thanks.

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Re: This TLD has no whois server.

[Bhasker C V]

On Sat, 2 May 2009, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:


I wanted to see the whois entry for qeqertarsuaq.gl
$ whois qeqertarsuaq.gl
This TLD has no whois server.

But http://whois.domaintools.com/qeqertarsuaq.gl says
 Whois Server: whois.ripe.net

So why didn't we see something like
$ whois last.fm
This TLD has no whois server, but you can access the whois database at
http://www.dot.fm/whois.html

Probably because
$ whois -h whois.ripe.net qeqertarsuaq.gl
%ERROR:101: no entries found

All weird.
Anyways, what should
$ whois qeqertarsuaq.gl
really say?



very interesting ... !!!
indeed !
please do copy me with the solution once you have ...


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Re: why must emacs depend on sound packages?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-05-01 21:11 +0200, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:

> Why must emacs depend on sound packages? Is emacs
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000 and will talk to us?

No, but some people may want to use M-x play-sound-file, and libasound2
will be installed on most desktop systems anyway.

> Shouldn't there be a way to install an emacs without sound packages?

Currently you have to build them yourself or use the emacs-snapshot-nox
package from http://emacs.orebokech.com/.

> Even the nox version depends on them. Does emacs say things more than
> "beep" often?

On most systems, probably not.  Feel free to open a wishlist bug that
emacs22-nox should be built without sound support.  In fact, that is
what I had suggested in http://bugs.debian.org/503054.

Sven


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Acer Aspire One A110 16GB Linux

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

Have brought one of these and successfully hosed Linpus Lite (which is a 
Fedora derivative) by attempting update.

I can restore the original Asus stuff tomorrow once I've bought a large 
USB stick :(

Or I can install Debian - I know there's a Wiki page but can anybody 
give me clear advice on support for the Wifi / any other devices under 
Lenny.

All useful advice taken :)

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This TLD has no whois server.

[jidanni]

I wanted to see the whois entry for qeqertarsuaq.gl
$ whois qeqertarsuaq.gl
This TLD has no whois server.

But http://whois.domaintools.com/qeqertarsuaq.gl says
  Whois Server: whois.ripe.net

So why didn't we see something like
$ whois last.fm
This TLD has no whois server, but you can access the whois database at
http://www.dot.fm/whois.html

Probably because
$ whois -h whois.ripe.net qeqertarsuaq.gl
%ERROR:101: no entries found

All weird.
Anyways, what should
$ whois qeqertarsuaq.gl
really say?


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Re: why must emacs depend on sound packages?

[Harry Rickards]

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jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> Why must emacs depend on sound packages? Is emacs
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000 and will talk to us?
> Isn't that an independent package, emacspeak?
> 
> Shouldn't there be a way to install an emacs without sound packages?
> Even the nox version depends on them. Does emacs say things more than
> "beep" often?
> 
> 
I don't want to turn this into a flamewar, but couldn't you use another
editor, like vi, vim, nano, pico or ed?

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why must emacs depend on sound packages?

[jidanni]

Why must emacs depend on sound packages? Is emacs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000 and will talk to us?
Isn't that an independent package, emacspeak?

Shouldn't there be a way to install an emacs without sound packages?
Even the nox version depends on them. Does emacs say things more than
"beep" often?


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IO APIC resources couldn't be allocated

[jidanni]

At boot I see
  IO APIC resources couldn't be allocated
I checked Google and lots of people mention they see it, and then
something bad happens. So they only discuss how to fix the bad thing,
but don't mention what one should do about the message.


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Re: kernel-package??

[Dave Witbrodt]

Randy Patterson wrote:
So on a dedicated system that is used for nothing but running a processor 
intensive application 24/7, do you think there would be any real increase in 
performance from a custom kernel?


My gut reaction is "no," but I do not claim to have data to back that 
up.  If there is a measurable inefficiency introduced into system calls 
to a loaded module versus a built-in module, then you could arguably get 
some minimal throughput gain over a long time period given the situation 
you're describing.


For actual data, you might try asking on the mailing list for the Debian 
Kernel Team, or even at the Linux Kernel Mailing List.  Please read some 
FAQs first, because this may well be a question that has been 
asked-and-answered to death.


Since you're admittedly using "older" systems anyway, we're talking 
about (at the very most) losing a tiny percentage of efficiency on 
machines that weren't going to be the major contributors of throughput 
in the first place.  I'm thinking I would be a Bad and Evil person if I 
encouraged you to custom compile your own kernels for _only_ the purpose 
you are describing.  (If there were some educational goal on your own 
part that you were pursuing, it would start to make more sense, IMHO.)



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Re: Question about get-selections

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,01.May.09, 13:49:12, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 
> Even if you think you do care, you probably do.  Either that, or you have a 
> different goal.

That's more likely.

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Re: Question about get-selections

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <20090501183939.ga10...@think.homelan>, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>On Fri,01.May.09, 13:26:50, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> Because we are talking about restoring the saved state, and which package
>> satisfies an "virtual | package-i-don't-like | package-i-like"
>> Depend/Recommend does matter, even if that package is marked automatically
>> installed.
>
>I can't talk for others, but if that package was automatically installed
>on my system then I didn't care about possible alternatives ;)

You do if the order the alternatives are listed has changed and it confuses 
the dependency resolver when you are installing.  Ideally, this would be so 
scriptable as to be non-interactive -- which is why I included instructions 
for saving/restoring debconf data as well.  You won't have debconf data for 
the alternative you didn't have installed, so you will have to configure it 
when you already have a working configuration for something else.

Even if you think you do care, you probably do.  Either that, or you have a 
different goal.
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Re: xorg (fglrx, radeon, radeonhd, vesa) not working after upgrade

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <49fad646.40...@googlemail.com>, thveillon.debian wrote:
>I don't know if I am the only one, but the attachment you sent in the
>first message has been messed up, to the point that it's impossible to
>understand anything:
>
>begin 644 xorg.conf
>M"B,@>&]R9RYC;VYF("A8;W)G(%@@5VEN9&]W(%-Y[...]
>
>Maybe it's just my mail client ?

That's a uuencoded attachment.  Uuencode is an older method of handling 
attachments, more common in newsgroups rather than mailing lists.  MIME 
attachments are the standard, and most common attachment method in use today.  
Even newsgroups are mostly MIME now.

uuencode and uudecode from the sharutils package can be used to create and 
read uuencoded attachments.
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Re: Question about get-selections

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,01.May.09, 13:26:50, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> 
> Because we are talking about restoring the saved state, and which package 
> satisfies an "virtual | package-i-don't-like | package-i-like" 
> Depend/Recommend does matter, even if that package is marked automatically 
> installed.

I can't talk for others, but if that package was automatically installed 
on my system then I didn't care about possible alternatives ;)

Regards,
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Re: kernel-package??

[Randy Patterson]

On Friday 01 May 2009 09:34:58 Dave Witbrodt wrote:
> Faster?  I promise that you would not notice the speedup.  Conceivably
> your kernel will boot slightly faster without having to carry out the
> hardware detection for the 99% of modules that have no relevance for
> your particular system, but you would have great difficulty measuring
> the alleged time savings accurately.  (There are great opportunities for
> decreasing the time needed to boot a Debian system, but these have to do
> with customizing the initialization scripts, not with replacing the
> kitchen-sink kernel with a custom kernel.)

Interesting, I would have thought the difference would have been a little more 
noticeable. I may have to reconsider.

> As far as being in a hurry to leave out unnecessary things like ext2,
> ext4, and NTFS... I would ask you to reconsider.  What happens if you
> meet other Linux users in your area, and they want to give you some
> files off of their USB flash drive formatted in ext2 or ext4?  Or what
> happens if some Windows user you meet has some files on their external
> hard drive... formatted in NTFS?  Now your really great idea about
> compiling your own kernel is really going to make you look smart to
> those folks, right?  Your choices at that point will be to recompile
> your custom kernel, or boot to a Debian kitchen-sink kernel.  (Which
> just raises the question of why you weren't using the Debian kernel in
> the first place.)

A very good point but one I have considered. The systems I have in mind are 
some that I don't use for anything but grid computing. I run Bionc on projects 
at the World Community Grid, these systems will just run 24/7 until they break 
and I will then throw them in the trash. They are older systems not worth my 
time to fix so your point above although valid in most cases doesn't apply to 
my very particular goal. None of my daily use systems would be running a 
custom kernel.

> I'm not trying to discourage you from building your own kernel.  I'm
> trying to offer information that I think you should consider, and I'm
> offering the advice that you shouldn't bother building your own kernel
> unless you have some really good reason.  (Really good reasons might
> include a burning desire to simply know how, or to be able to say you
> did it, but if one of those is you only reason then I think you will
> regret it by about halfway through the process.)

I understand there is a time investment and learning curve to consider.  But 
if I can get a little extra processor and ram use from a leaner kernel, this 
is something I may do many more times in the future so it would be worth that 
investment. But not if the increase in computing power has to be measured in 
milliseconds per day!

> The Debian kernel team works really hard to make sure that the kernels
> work, and they do a good job.  In the end, I was able to customize my
> kernel configuration to the point that I can compile a kernel in about
> 6 minutes on my desktop machine... which is (at least) 6 minutes longer
> than it would take me to install a Debian kernel.  ;)  If I hadn't had
> problems with ALSA support with this machine when I first put it
> together, I probably would not have bothered to learn to compile my own
> kernels.  The amount of time in invested in learning how to do it now
> causes me to want to keep doing it, so I don't have the feeling that I
> wasted those dozens of hours -- and so I am condemned to the punishment
> of Sisyphus.

So on a dedicated system that is used for nothing but running a processor 
intensive application 24/7, do you think there would be any real increase in 
performance from a custom kernel?

>
> HTH,
> Dave W.

Thanks for your time and input Dave,
Randy


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Re: Question about get-selections

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <20090501074519.gu10...@think.homelan>, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>On Thu,30.Apr.09, 20:59:40, J.M.Roth wrote:
>> dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == "install"' > packagesNG_installed
>> aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' > packagesNG_autoinstalled
>
>I'm curious, why not replace these two with
>
>aptitude -F '%p' search '~i!~M' > packagesNG_not_autoinstalled
>
>Auto-installed packages are really not important (at least for me) and
>they might change from one version to the other of some package. Let
>apt/aptitude figure out what additional packages need to be installed,
>that's what they were created for.

Because we are talking about restoring the saved state, and which package 
satisfies an "virtual | package-i-don't-like | package-i-like" 
Depend/Recommend does matter, even if that package is marked automatically 
installed.

It is possible that some of the packages you capture with the dpkg --get-
selections end up not being installed at all if the Depends/Recommends change 
because package versions have moved forward between your save and your 
restore.  However, having them in the "install" and "automatically installed" 
state gives hints to the dependency resolver about which package(s) you want 
to satisfy dependencies.
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Re: No sound on fresh 5.01

[Kelly Clowers]

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:16, Sthu Deus  wrote:
> Good day.
>
> I just have installed Debian 5.01 on Athlon 1.6 computer with an old
> sound card. When I try to play a sound file w/ mplayer - I see how the
> time digits are changing but hear no sound. I tried to run alsamixer -
> it shows all the channels of the card and set everyone to max - still
> no sound.
>
> I have added the user to audio group, even tried to play under root -
> the very same result.
>
> How I can investigate the culprit?

Check to see if you have a sound server installed (esd, arts, PA).
They can get in the way (although I happen to like PA). Check your
sound modules with lsmod. Check that you don't also have a sound
chip on your motherboard.


Cheers,
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Re: Postfix Transport Maps and MXs Ignored After Upgrade to Lenny

[Eric Cunningham]

I think I've found a/the fix for re-enabling the original behavior of my 
transport maps and MX relaying.  I added .$mydomain to mydestination in 
main.cf.  This is in addition to $mydomain which was already in 
mydestination.


$mydomain vs. .$mydomain is subtle but apparently important.

-Eric

Eric Cunningham wrote:
I just upgraded from etch to lenny and my previously working postfix 
transport map seems to now be ignored under postfix 2.5.5-1.1.  Messages 
that used to be relayed successfully are now rejected with "Relay access 
denied."  Also, messages addressed to any machines whose MX points to 
this server running lenny postfix 2.5.5-1.1 are also rejected with 
"Relay access denied."


I've found a workaround in listing the subdomains in 
/etc/postfix/transport and MX'd machines as relay_domains in 
/etc/postfix/main.cf, but this seems redundant.


Have there been any similar reports of this behavior?  Any thoughts on 
how to address this issue?  If anyone is able to look into this, I'd be 
happy to send along any needed details & info.



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Re: xorg (fglrx, radeon, radeonhd, vesa) not working after upgrade

[Kelly Clowers]

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 04:18, Stefan Bellon  wrote:
> thveillon.debian wrote:
>> I don't know if I am the only one, but the attachment you sent in the
>> first message has been messed up, to the point that it's impossible to
>> understand anything:
>
> Ah, didn't know that. I'll put the files inline then (line breaks may
> be wrong then, but hey ...).
>
>
>
>
> xorg.conf:
>
>
> # xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
> #
> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool,
> # using values from the debconf database.
> #
> # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
> # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
> #
> # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades
> # *only* if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the
> # xserver-xorg package.
> #
> # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically
> # updated again, run the following commands as root:
> #
> #   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
> #   md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
> #   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
>
> Section "ServerLayout"
>        Identifier     "Default Layout"
>        Screen         "Generic Screen" 0 0
>        InputDevice    "Generic Keyboard"
>        InputDevice    "Generic Mouse"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Files"
>
>        # local font server
>        # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
>        FontPath     "unix/:7100"
>        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/"
>        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/"
>        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/OTF"
>        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/"
>        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/CID/"
>        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/"
>        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Module"
>        Load  "i2c"
>        Load  "bitmap"
>        Load  "dbe"
>        Load  "ddc"
>        Load  "dri"
>        Load  "evdev"
>        Load  "extmod"
>        Load  "freetype"
>        Load  "glx"
>        Load  "int10"
>        Load  "record"
>        Load  "type1"
>        Load  "vbe"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>        Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
>        Driver      "kbd"
>        Option      "CoreKeyboard"
>        Option      "XkbRules" "xorg"
>        Option      "XkbModel" "pc105"
>        Option      "XkbLayout" "de"
>        Option      "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>        Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
>        Driver      "mouse"
>        Option      "CorePointer"
>        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
>        Option      "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
>        Option      "EmulateWheel" "on"
>        Option      "EmulateWheelButton" "2"
>        Option      "EmulateWheelTimeout" "300"
>        Option      "EmulateWheelInertia" "25"
>        Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
>        Option      "XAxisMapping" "6 7"
>        Option      "YAxisMapping" "4 5"
>        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>        Identifier   "LCD"
>        DisplaySize  286        214
>        HorizSync    30.0 - 67.0
>        VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0
>        Option      "DPMS"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
>        Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
>        Driver      "fglrx"
>        Option      "ForceMonitors" "LVDS,CRT1"
>        Option      "EnableMonitor" "crt1,lvds"
>        Option      "VideoOverlay" "True"
>        Option      "OpenGLOverlay" "False"
>        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
>        Identifier "Generic Screen"
>        Device     "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
>        Monitor    "LCD"
>        DefaultDepth     24
>        SubSection "Display"
>                Viewport   0 0
>                Depth     1
>                Modes    "1400x1050" "1024x768"
>        EndSubSection
>        SubSection "Display"
>                Viewport   0 0
>                Depth     4
>                Modes    "1400x1050" "1024x768"
>        EndSubSection
>        SubSection "Display"
>                Viewport   0 0
>                Depth     8
>                Modes    "1400x1050" "1024x768"
>        EndSubSection
>        SubSection "Display"
>                Viewport   0 0
>                Depth     15
>                Modes    "1400x1050" "1024x768"
>        EndSubSection
>        SubSection "Display"
>                Viewport   0 0
>                Depth     16
>                Modes    "1400x1050" "1024x768"
>        EndSubSection
>        SubSection "Display"
>                Viewport   0 0
>                Depth     24
>                Modes    "1400x1050" "1024x768"
>                #Modes    "1024x768"
>        EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
> Section "DRI"
>        Mode         0666
> EndSection
>
> Section "Extensions"
>        Option      "Composite" "true"
> EndSection
>

I would st

RE: execution of exim by user

[Peter Crawford]

> 'man sendmail' and you should figure it out.

Changed little, if any, from years ago.  
sendmail links to exim.  Should be no harm 
in using exim rather than sendmail.
>> What is it you want to achieve?
> 
> Initiate a message via the command interface.Which has merit when initiating 
> a message 
from a non-linux system.

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Re: Desktop Search Engines

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

For the command line there is swish++.
Its worth a try but it requires a configuration file (see 
/usr/share/doc/swish++).
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No sound on fresh 5.01

[Sthu Deus]

Good day.

I just have installed Debian 5.01 on Athlon 1.6 computer with an old
sound card. When I try to play a sound file w/ mplayer - I see how the
time digits are changing but hear no sound. I tried to run alsamixer -
it shows all the channels of the card and set everyone to max - still
no sound.

I have added the user to audio group, even tried to play under root -
the very same result.

How I can investigate the culprit?

Thank You for Your time.


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Re: execution of exim by user

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,01.May.09, 09:32:53, Peter Crawford wrote:
> >   ...
> > /usr/lib/sendmail -v chris # Yes this is exim
> 
> pe...@dalton:~$ which exim
> pe...@dalton:~$ which /usr/sbin/exim
> /usr/sbin/exim
> 
> My error was not having the path in the command or in 
> $PATH.  I'll look at sendmail in case it is advantageous.
 
You don't need to, exim already provides a sendmail binary for 
compatibility reasons.

> > What is it you want to achieve?
> 
> Initiate a message via the command interface.

'man sendmail' and you should figure it out.

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RE: execution of exim by user

[Peter Crawford]

Andrei & Chris,

> From: chris-use...@roaima.co.uk
> Subject: Re: execution of exim by user
> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:40:58 +0100
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>   ...
> /usr/lib/sendmail -v chris # Yes this is exim

pe...@dalton:~$ which exim
pe...@dalton:~$ which /usr/sbin/exim
/usr/sbin/exim

My error was not having the path in the command or in 
$PATH.  I'll look at sendmail in case it is advantageous.

> What is it you want to achieve?

Initiate a message via the command interface.

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Re: network configuration for Eth0

[Bob Cox]

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 19:04:25 +0300, Andrei Popescu 
(andreimpope...@gmail.com) wrote: 

[snip]

> Nitpick: 'network' and 'broadcast' are optional and gateway is necessary 
> only if this interface is used to connect to the internet.

Good points.  I like nitpicking ;-)

As an aside, I use static IPs on everything here with no wireless and
all manually configured as per my example.  

The only exception to this is a recently acquired laptop with which I
wanted to use both wireless and DHCP and be able to control it all from
a GUI interface; something I have not done before.  I tried and failed
with the kde front-end to network manager and in the end purged all
traces of them and installing wicd ("aptitude show wicd" describes it
well).  It is really excellent and just works, seamlessly restoring
networking after suspending and so on and allowing easy switching from
wired to wireless and so on.

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alternative of grsecurity

[Alex]

Hello everybody,

Is there any alternative of grsecurity that is supported well by debian
developers in latest stable debian lenny?

It seems that current linux-patch-grsecurity2 don't compatible with stable
debian kernel and isn't supported by package maintainer. So I'm looking
for some alternative solution for kernel hardening.

Thank you.

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Re: network configuration for Eth0

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,01.May.09, 15:11:17, Bob Cox wrote:
 
> What I would expect to see is something a bit like this:
> 
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
> 
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.10.103
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 192.168.10.1
> network 192.168.10.0
> broadcast 192.168.10.255

Nitpick: 'network' and 'broadcast' are optional and gateway is necessary 
only if this interface is used to connect to the internet.

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Re: Nvidia driver and second screen

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,01.May.09, 15:43:39, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> Andrei Popescu schreef:
> > On Fri,01.May.09, 16:19:01, Alex Samad wrote:
> >  
> >> the 173.x drivers are okay, but they stop at around 2.6.28 (or .26 I
> >> think)
> > 
> > ,[ /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-source/changelog.Debian.gz 
> > ]
> > | nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-173xx (173.14.18-1) unstable; urgency=low
> > |
> > |   * New upstream.
> > |   * Patched for Debian 2.6.29 thanks to Lennart Sorensen 
> > | (closes: #523024, #504626, #523024)
> > |   * Remove suggesting of nvidia-settings (closes: #524107)
> > |   * Divert proper package in ia32 package (closes: #521690) 
> > |   * Remove video-2 Provides.
> > |
> > |  -- Randall Donald   Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:10:22 -0700
> > `
> Can you please explain what you mean with this mail? I am not using this
> package.
 
My reply was to Alex Samad, to point out that the 173xx driver has been 
updated (in unstable) to support 2.6.29 kernels.

Regards,
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sound stuck in loop/reverberation

[Ross Boylan]

My sound often gets stuck and just repeats the same short sound over and
over again, like a reverberation or an echo.  The volume goes up and
down cyclically--in fact it may be playing a single tone.

This sometimes happens after a period in which the sound works OK, or a
period in which there is no sound at all.

I've run into this most recently while trying to watch a show at
hulu.com (thought the day before things worked OK).  I've run into it at
other sites.

Can anyone suggest how to diagnose or fix the problem?

I have stuff from Marillat's AV repository installed, and used
iceweasel.  The system is Lenny, with Intel HDA ICH7 onboard.  The logs
and .xsession-errors don't seem to have anything.  The alsa site
suggested HDA Analyzer
(http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa.git;a=blob_plain;f=hda-analyzer/run.py;hb=HEAD)
 but it says (run as root)

No HDA codecs were found or insufficient priviledges for
/dev/snd/controlC* and /dev/snd/hwdepC*D* device files.

You may also check, if you compiled HDA driver with HWDEP
interface as well or close all application using HWDEP.

I have the controlC* files but no hwdepC*D*; maybe the driver isn't
compiled with HWDEP on Debian?

I have a lot of plugins; I wonder if they are interefering with each
other (list at bottom--is there any easy way to capture this info?).
hulu appears to use Flash 9, judging by http://www.hulu.com/about.  My
flashplayer 10 (not 9) plugin (libflashplayer.so) is from
flashplayer-mozilla  1:10.0.22.87-0.1 
in Marillat's repository.

--/proc/asound/card0/codec#2 ---
Codec: SigmaTel STAC9221 A1
Address: 2
Vendor Id: 0x83847680
Subsystem Id: 0x80860b0b
Revision Id: 0x103201
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
rates [0x7e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x0e, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x7f, nsteps=0x7f, stepsize=0x02, mute=1
GPIO: io=4, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=1, wake=1
  IO[0]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0
  IO[1]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0
  IO[2]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0
  IO[3]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out R/L
  Amp-Out caps: N/A
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x6c 0x6c]
  Converter: stream=5, channel=0
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Delay: 13 samples
Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out R/L
  Amp-Out caps: N/A
  Amp-Out vals:  [0xe7 0xe7]
  Converter: stream=5, channel=0
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Delay: 13 samples
Node 0x04 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out R/L
  Amp-Out caps: N/A
  Amp-Out vals:  [0xec 0x80]
  Converter: stream=5, channel=0
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Delay: 13 samples
Node 0x05 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out R/L
  Amp-Out caps: N/A
  Amp-Out vals:  [0xff 0xff]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Delay: 13 samples
Node 0x06 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x1d0541: Stereo
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Delay: 13 samples
  Connection: 1
 0x17
  Processing caps: benign=0, ncoeff=0
Node 0x07 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x1d0541: Stereo
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Delay: 13 samples
  Connection: 1
 0x18
  Processing caps: benign=0, ncoeff=0
Node 0x08 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x40211: Stereo Digital
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  Digital:
  Digital category: 0x0
  PCM:
rates [0x7e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
  Delay: 4 samples
Node 0x09 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x140311: Stereo Digital
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  Digital:
  Digital category: 0x0
  PCM:
rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
  Delay: 4 samples
  Connection: 1
 0x11
Node 0x0a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo
  Pincap 0x08173f: IN OUT HP Detect Trigger ImpSense
Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80
  Pin Default 0x0221401f: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Front
Conn = 1/8, Color = Green
DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0xf
  Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP VREF_HIZ
  Unsolicited: tag=30, enabled=1
  Connection: 1
 0x02
Node 0x0b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo
  Pincap 0x081737: IN OUT Detect Trigger ImpSense
Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80
  Pin Default 0x01a19022: [Jack] Mic at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0x2
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT VREF_HIZ
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 1
 0x04
Node 0x0c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo
  Pincap 0x081737: IN OUT Detect Trigger ImpSense
Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80
  Pin Default 0x01813021: [Jack] Line In at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Blue
DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0x1
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN VREF_HIZ
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 1
  

Re: kernel-package??

[Dave Witbrodt]

Randy Patterson wrote:
My intention at this point is to make a detailed list of the components on a 
particular system so I can remove everything that is not needed. These would 
be older systems that will never be upgraded or need new hardware so the 
kernel don't need a lot of options concerning hardware. For example, I have 
used ext3 on the drives and they don't need to access anything else and will 
remove all support for ext2, ext4, NTFS and everything else.  I intend to 
compile everything into the kernel without using modules. It's my 
understanding from what I have read that this will result in a leaner and some 
what faster kernel for that system. Is that a reasonable assumption and 
approach?


What is "reasonable" is a matter of opinion.  Even though I carried out 
the massive research project you are describing above, and determined 
the exact set of configuration options needed to compile a custom kernel 
which exactly fits my hardware (and _only_ my hardware), I would not 
recommend anyone else to do so unless they had some specific need or 
purpose.  My purpose has been to learn how Debian works "under the 
hood," with the intent of being able to contribute useful work later -- 
in the form of fixing bugs, writing and packaging my own software, and 
(possibly) becoming a Debian developer.


Leaner?  My own experience is that my kernel binaries are _larger_ than 
a Debian kitchen-sink kernel, while the disk space taken up for the 
initial ramdisk (initrd) and loadable modules in /lib/modules goes away 
almost entirely:


# ls -lA /boot | cut -f5- -d' '
[...]
7653318 2009-04-20 07:43 initrd.img-2.6.28-1-amd64
[...]
2041664 2009-02-18 13:02 vmlinuz-2.6.28-1-amd64
2921024 2009-03-21 12:57 vmlinuz-2.6.28-2s13145.090321.desktop.uvesafb

# du -s -b /lib/modules/*
210911107   /lib/modules/2.6.28-1-amd64
15089013/lib/modules/2.6.28-2s13145.090321.desktop.uvesafb

The 15 MB of modules in my current custom kernel's /lib/modules path are 
mostly unnecessary, and could easily be reduced below 2 MB (maybe even

1 MB).

Faster?  I promise that you would not notice the speedup.  Conceivably 
your kernel will boot slightly faster without having to carry out the 
hardware detection for the 99% of modules that have no relevance for 
your particular system, but you would have great difficulty measuring 
the alleged time savings accurately.  (There are great opportunities for 
decreasing the time needed to boot a Debian system, but these have to do 
with customizing the initialization scripts, not with replacing the 
kitchen-sink kernel with a custom kernel.)


As far as being in a hurry to leave out unnecessary things like ext2, 
ext4, and NTFS... I would ask you to reconsider.  What happens if you 
meet other Linux users in your area, and they want to give you some 
files off of their USB flash drive formatted in ext2 or ext4?  Or what 
happens if some Windows user you meet has some files on their external 
hard drive... formatted in NTFS?  Now your really great idea about 
compiling your own kernel is really going to make you look smart to 
those folks, right?  Your choices at that point will be to recompile 
your custom kernel, or boot to a Debian kitchen-sink kernel.  (Which 
just raises the question of why you weren't using the Debian kernel in 
the first place.)


I'm not trying to discourage you from building your own kernel.  I'm 
trying to offer information that I think you should consider, and I'm 
offering the advice that you shouldn't bother building your own kernel 
unless you have some really good reason.  (Really good reasons might 
include a burning desire to simply know how, or to be able to say you 
did it, but if one of those is you only reason then I think you will 
regret it by about halfway through the process.)


The Debian kernel team works really hard to make sure that the kernels 
work, and they do a good job.  In the end, I was able to customize my 
kernel configuration to the point that I can compile a kernel in about
6 minutes on my desktop machine... which is (at least) 6 minutes longer 
than it would take me to install a Debian kernel.  ;)  If I hadn't had 
problems with ALSA support with this machine when I first put it 
together, I probably would not have bothered to learn to compile my own 
kernels.  The amount of time in invested in learning how to do it now 
causes me to want to keep doing it, so I don't have the feeling that I 
wasted those dozens of hours -- and so I am condemned to the punishment 
of Sisyphus.



The whole subject of initrds scripts is something I will need to study up on. 
But are you saying that if I don't use modules that I don't need to worry 
about needing these scripts?


When you boot a kernel, then any feature required by your system to be 
able to boot will have to be available before your hard disks are 
mounted.  There are two ways to accomplish this:


1.  Build the features directly into the kernel binary, instead of 
building th

Re: Nvidia driver and second screen

[Dave Patterson]

* Sjoerd Hardeman  [2009-05-01 15:40:22 +0200]:


> Probably no Nvidia for me next time.
 
I'm going crazy with fglrx over here, so I don't know if you'd have
better luck on ATI.

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Re: network configuration for Eth0

[Bob Cox]

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 05:36:06 -0400, Paul Cartwright (a...@pcartwright.com) 
wrote: 

> I seemed to have a problem with my static setup of eth0 that stopped my 
> debian 
> lenny setup from coming up correctly. I kept getting errors in logs.
> To redo my network config, just eth0, what is the best way to do it. I tried 
> dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown, but that didn't change the interfaces file.
> this is what I had that didn't work:
> #static setup
> #auto eth0
> #iface eth0 inet static
> #address 192.168.10.103
> #netmask 255.255.255.0
> #broadcast 192.168.10.255
> here is what I have now:
> 
> what's wrong with it?

As others have commented Paul, there's not a lot here to go on.  Your
setup which didn't work is all commented out and the rest is just blank.

What I would expect to see is something a bit like this:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.10.103
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.10.1
network 192.168.10.0
broadcast 192.168.10.255

(assuming you have a router of that IP address of course).

If you *do* have network-manager installed then this could be the cause
of many of your woes.

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Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

[Dave Patterson]

* Miles Fidelman  [2009-05-01 09:52:58 -0400]:

> As much as I'm a proponent for good manuals, vs. google... you can  
> always add "-ubuntu" to your search query

Good point.


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Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

[Miles Fidelman]

Paul Johnson wrote:

Osamu Aoki wrote:

  

I also feel that google tends to rate *.debian.org sites high so you are
likely to see these more than any random blog posts with good reasons
(especially if you have debian in keywords).



I just wish i could get google to stop giving me useless answers I can't
use revolving around Ubuntu when I search for Debian.  If I wanted
Ubuntu answers, 1) I'd be special in the head to start with, and 2) I'd
search for Ubuntu, not Debian...
  
As much as I'm a proponent for good manuals, vs. google... you can 
always add "-ubuntu" to your search query



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Re: Nvidia driver and second screen

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Andrei Popescu schreef:
> On Fri,01.May.09, 16:19:01, Alex Samad wrote:
>  
>> the 173.x drivers are okay, but they stop at around 2.6.28 (or .26 I
>> think)
> 
> ,[ /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-source/changelog.Debian.gz ]
> | nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-173xx (173.14.18-1) unstable; urgency=low
> |
> |   * New upstream.
> |   * Patched for Debian 2.6.29 thanks to Lennart Sorensen 
> | (closes: #523024, #504626, #523024)
> |   * Remove suggesting of nvidia-settings (closes: #524107)
> |   * Divert proper package in ia32 package (closes: #521690) 
> |   * Remove video-2 Provides.
> |
> |  -- Randall Donald   Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:10:22 -0700
> `
Can you please explain what you mean with this mail? I am not using this
package.



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Re: Nvidia driver and second screen

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Alex Samad schreef:
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:01:18PM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
>> >> Hi list,
> > I have seen this on a hp laptop 8510w and with the second deisplay.
> >
> > the 173.x drivers are okay, but they stop at around 2.6.28 (or .26 I
> > think)
I am currently using the 180.44 driver, and even tried nvidia's current
180.51. These drivers show similar problems. Yet, I did succeed in using
beamers with my laptop in the past. Actually, one of those which worked
stopped working.
I also tried the 173.x series drivers, to no avail.
> >
> > I have tried to log a nvidia bug report, but I haven't heard anything
> > back
I haven't heard anything either, not even an confirmation of arrival.
Probably no Nvidia for me next time.

Sjoerd


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Re: network configuration for Eth0

[Thorny]

On Fri, 01 May 2009 05:36:06 -0400, Paul Cartwright posted:

> I seemed to have a problem with my static setup of eth0 that stopped my
> debian lenny setup from coming up correctly.

This doesn't tell us anything that we could use to troubleshoot. Do you
mean the system doesn't come up or just doesn't come up the way you want
it?

> I kept getting errors in logs.

If you would detail the errors, it might be easier to make a
troubleshooting decision of what to check first.

> To redo my network config, just eth0, what is the best way to do it.
> I tried dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown, but that didn't change the interfaces
> file. this is what I had that didn't work:
> #static setup
> #auto eth0
> #iface eth0 inet static
> #address 192.168.10.103
> #netmask 255.255.255.0
> #broadcast 192.168.10.255
> here is what I have now:
> 
> what's wrong with it?

Do you by any chance have network-manager running on the system?

I agree with Celejar, did you leave part of your description out or do you
mean that it is now blank?


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Re: network configuration for Eth0

[Celejar]

On Fri, 1 May 2009 05:36:06 -0400
Paul Cartwright  wrote:

> I seemed to have a problem with my static setup of eth0 that stopped my 
> debian 
> lenny setup from coming up correctly. I kept getting errors in logs.
> To redo my network config, just eth0, what is the best way to do it. I tried 
> dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown, but that didn't change the interfaces file.
> this is what I had that didn't work:
> #static setup
> #auto eth0
> #iface eth0 inet static
> #address 192.168.10.103
> #netmask 255.255.255.0
> #broadcast 192.168.10.255
> here is what I have now:
> 
> what's wrong with it?

Something's missing here; what did you have, and what do you have now?

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Re: Can't create RAID 0 with Debian Lennny and mdadm on EC2

[Chris Davies]

Raleigh Guevarra  wrote:
> We're trying to make a RAID 0 with four 150Gb each of volumes but we
> are getting this error [...] on Amazon EC2

> # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level 0 --metadata=1.1 --raid-devices 4 /dev/sdl 
> /dev/sdm /dev/sdn /dev/sdo 

> mdadm: /dev/sdl appears to be part of a raid array: 
>     level=raid0 devices=4 ctime=Thu Apr 30 20:48:41 2009 
> [...]

> # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=0 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdl1 /dev/sdm1 
> /dev/sdn1 /dev/sdo1 

> mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdl1: Device or resource busy 
> [...]


You appear to be trying to use a device that's already part of a RAID
array to create a RAID array. You can't do that.

Take a look at output of /proc/mdstat to see what your system thinks
are RAID devices.


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Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Fri, 1 May 2009 20:55:09 +1200
Chris Bannister  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 06:27:03PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Peace.
> > >
> > 
> > I wish for it every day, my friend. You have no idea.
> 
> Whereas in a previous post …
> 
> > I am serious, and I have access to automatic weapons.
> 
Not so unusual in a soldier, especially one in Israel.

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Re: kernel-package??

[Randy Patterson]

On Thursday 30 April 2009 14:30:42 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30 2009, thveillon.debian wrote:
>
> ers are non-essential.
>
> > Installing the created .deb will take care of all the linking (/initrd,
> > /vmlinuz, build dir...), boot-loader update (with grub at least), initrd
> >  creation/update and such.
>
> Actually, with the 12.XX branch, you get to choose what happens
>  when the kernel image is installed, by dropping scripts into
>  /etc/kernel -- by default, no action is taken
>
>  For example, to create an initramfs, I did:
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
>  cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/yaird \
> /etc/kernel/postinst.d/
>  cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postrm.d/yaird \
> /etc/kernel/postrm.d/
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>
> Or, alternately, you could do:
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
>  cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs \
> /etc/kernel/postinst.d/
>  cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs \
> /etc/kernel/postrm.d/
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>
> To run grub, I have in /etc/kernel-img.conf:
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> postinst_hook = update-grub
> postrm_hook   = update-grub
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>
> But really, you can substitute your own scripts, or decide not
>  to use initrds (which is a sane option if you are building your own
>  kernels and thus might not have any modules at all).
>
> manoj

My intention at this point is to make a detailed list of the components on a 
particular system so I can remove everything that is not needed. These would 
be older systems that will never be upgraded or need new hardware so the 
kernel don't need a lot of options concerning hardware. For example, I have 
used ext3 on the drives and they don't need to access anything else and will 
remove all support for ext2, ext4, NTFS and everything else.  I intend to 
compile everything into the kernel without using modules. It's my 
understanding from what I have read that this will result in a leaner and some 
what faster kernel for that system. Is that a reasonable assumption and 
approach?

The whole subject of initrds scripts is something I will need to study up on. 
But are you saying that if I don't use modules that I don't need to worry 
about needing these scripts?

Thanks,
Randy


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Re: ubuntu debian question

[Abhishek Amberkar [अभिषेक]]

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:04 AM, George Phile  wrote:
> Sir/Madam,
>
> Is there any web site I can go to to search for Greeting Card Software
> which run on Ubuntu - Debian?
>
> A handfull of people have advised me to go to this platform and operating
> system but it is for my wife and the only thing she does is search the web,
> manage her email and make greeting cards.
>
> I have spent the last hour or so trying to find Greeting Card Software for
> Ubuntu - Debianall to no avail.
>


You can use
* scribus
* inkscape
* glabels
* openoffice.impress

for greeting card creation
All of the above mentioned packages are available in Debian/Ubuntu repos.

Following 2 tutorials might help you to use openoffice.impress

http://showmedo.com/videotutorials/video?name=153&fromSeriesID=153
http://showmedo.com/videotutorials/video?name=1530010&fromSeriesID=153

You might also find following link useful for printing purpose
http://www.bolis.com/amillar/linux/printing-greeting-cards-linux

Also check this for Scribus
http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/135

Alternatively you can install "Wine". Wine lets you install Windows
programs on GNU/Linux systems.
So, try installing American Greetings Create-A-Card using Wine.

Please take into consideration that, I have not used any of the above
softwares but Wine. Those are the google results.
Hope that helps.

I think you hit "Reply" button instead of "Reply All", so you sent me
a private mail rather than replying to the list.
Please do take care next time when replying. :)


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Re: Can't create RAID 0 with Debian Lennny and mdadm on EC2

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Raleigh Guevarra  [2009.05.01.1224 +0200]:
> # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level 0 --metadata=1.1 --raid-devices 4 /dev/sdl 
> /dev/sdm /dev/sdn /dev/sdo 

what type of device are those? which driver provides them?

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Re: xorg (fglrx, radeon, radeonhd, vesa) not working after upgrade

[Stefan Bellon]

thveillon.debian wrote:
> I don't know if I am the only one, but the attachment you sent in the
> first message has been messed up, to the point that it's impossible to
> understand anything:

Ah, didn't know that. I'll put the files inline then (line breaks may
be wrong then, but hey ...).




xorg.conf:


# xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool,
# using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades
# *only* if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the
# xserver-xorg package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically
# updated again, run the following commands as root:
#
#   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
#   md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Generic Screen" 0 0
InputDevice"Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice"Generic Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath "unix/:7100"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "i2c"
Load  "bitmap"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "ddc"
Load  "dri"
Load  "evdev"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "glx"
Load  "int10"
Load  "record"
Load  "type1"
Load  "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option  "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
Option  "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option  "EmulateWheel" "on"
Option  "EmulateWheelButton" "2"
Option  "EmulateWheelTimeout" "300"
Option  "EmulateWheelInertia" "25"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
Option  "XAxisMapping" "6 7"
Option  "YAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "LCD"
DisplaySize  286214
HorizSync30.0 - 67.0
VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
Driver  "fglrx"
Option  "ForceMonitors" "LVDS,CRT1"
Option  "EnableMonitor" "crt1,lvds"
Option  "VideoOverlay" "True"
Option  "OpenGLOverlay" "False"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Generic Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
Monitor"LCD"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
Modes"1400x1050" "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
Modes"1400x1050" "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
Modes"1400x1050" "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
Modes"1400x1050" "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
Modes"1400x1050" "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes"1400x1050" "1024x768"
#Modes"1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option  "Composite" "true"
EndSection




Xorg.0.log.fglrx:


_XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
_XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/io:0
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6

X.Org X Server 1.6.1
Release Date: 2009-4-14
X Pr

Re: xorg (fglrx, radeon, radeonhd, vesa) not working after upgrade

[thveillon.debian]

Stefan Bellon wrote :
> thveillon.debian wrote:
> 
>> So maybe you have another problem on top of that,
> 
> Yes, of course, that's the reason for my posting.
> 
>> some leftovers from fglrx installation that don't go well with free
>> drivers, like proprietary libGL maybe ?
> 
> Unlikely. In the past I have switched between fglrx, radeon and vesa
> quite some times if one or the other did have some issue. And switching
> to another one always worked without having to change more than the
> driver line in the xorg.conf file.
> 
> It looks like the new Xorg has some very fundamental change which I am
> not aware of.
> 
> So, if anybody has any comments wrt. to the configuration and log files
> I presented in my initial posting, I'm very grateful for hearing them.
> 
> Greetings,
> Stefan
> 

I don't know if I am the only one, but the attachment you sent in the
first message has been messed up, to the point that it's impossible to
understand anything:

begin 644 xorg.conf
M"B,@>&]R9RYC;VYF("A8;W)G(%@@5VEN9&]W(%-Y&]R
[...]
and:

RiscOS filetype : FFF


begin 644 Xorg.0.log.fglrx
M7UA315)65')A;G-3;V-K971/<&5N0T]44U-E

network configuration for Eth0

[Paul Cartwright]

I seemed to have a problem with my static setup of eth0 that stopped my debian 
lenny setup from coming up correctly. I kept getting errors in logs.
To redo my network config, just eth0, what is the best way to do it. I tried 
dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown, but that didn't change the interfaces file.
this is what I had that didn't work:
#static setup
#auto eth0
#iface eth0 inet static
#address 192.168.10.103
#netmask 255.255.255.0
#broadcast 192.168.10.255
here is what I have now:

what's wrong with it?

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Can't create RAID 0 with Debian Lennny and mdadm on EC2

[Raleigh Guevarra]

Hi, 

We're trying to make a RAID 0 with four 150Gb each of volumes but we are 
getting this error:  /dev/sdl   /dev/sdm   /dev/sdn   /dev/sdo onn Amazon EC2

Linux MyServer 2.6.16.33-xenU #2 SMP Wed Aug 15 17:27:36 SAST 2007 x86_64 
GNU/Linux


# mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level 0 --metadata=1.1 --raid-devices 4 /dev/sdl 
/dev/sdm /dev/sdn /dev/sdo 

mdadm: /dev/sdl appears to be part of a raid array: 
    level=raid0 devices=4 ctime=Thu Apr 30 20:48:41 2009 
mdadm: /dev/sdm appears to be part of a raid array: 
    level=raid0 devices=4 ctime=Thu Apr 30 20:48:41 2009 
mdadm: /dev/sdn appears to be part of a raid array: 
    level=raid0 devices=4 ctime=Thu Apr 30 20:48:41 2009 
mdadm: /dev/sdo appears to be part of a raid array: 
    level=raid0 devices=4 ctime=Thu Apr 30 20:48:41 2009 
Continue creating array? yes 
mdadm: RUN_ARRAY failed: Invalid argument 
mdadm: stopped /dev/md0 

and 

# mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=0 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdl1 /dev/sdm1 
/dev/sdn1 /dev/sdo1 

mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdl1: Device or resource busy 
mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdm1: Device or resource busy 
mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdn1: Device or resource busy 
mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdo1: Device or resource busy 
mdadm: create aborted 


What are we missing? 


Thank you in advance,

Raleigh





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Re: repotbug not loading ui

[Dave Witbrodt]

Amit Uttamchandani wrote:

I have used reportbug successfully a few times with the urwid interface
without any problems. However, recently I can't get reportbug to load
urwid or even gtk2 ui settings.

Tried to look at the bug reports posted on debian but no luck. Even
tried reconfiguring and using debug mode but can't figure it out.

Any ideas?

This is reportbug 4.1 with debian squeeze all packages up to date as of
this email.


I have also never been able to try out the new gtk2 interface.  When I 
try to get the GUI interface from a menu, nothing happens -- not even an 
error message in a log file.  When I try from an X terminal, I get the 
text interface instead of the GUI interface.


I believe this is a known bug:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=524857

I'm waiting for this bug to be closed, and the next release of 
'reportbug' after than, before pursuing this problem further.  I'm so 
used to using the text interface, anyway, that merely consider the 
situation annoying.



Dave W.


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Re: [Reportbug-maint] repotbug not loading ui

[Sandro Tosi]

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:07, Dave Witbrodt  wrote:
> Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
>>
>> I have used reportbug successfully a few times with the urwid interface
>> without any problems. However, recently I can't get reportbug to load
>> urwid or even gtk2 ui settings.
>>
>> Tried to look at the bug reports posted on debian but no luck. Even
>> tried reconfiguring and using debug mode but can't figure it out.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> This is reportbug 4.1 with debian squeeze all packages up to date as of
>> this email.
>
> I have also never been able to try out the new gtk2 interface.  When I try
> to get the GUI interface from a menu, nothing happens -- not even an error
> message in a log file.  When I try from an X terminal, I get the text
> interface instead of the GUI interface.
>
> I believe this is a known bug:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=524857
>
> I'm waiting for this bug to be closed, and the next release of 'reportbug'
> after than, before pursuing this problem further.  I'm so used to using the
> text interface, anyway, that merely consider the situation annoying.

This is a known issue, already fixed in our git repo; the next upload
will fix this too.

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repotbug not loading ui

[Amit Uttamchandani]

I have used reportbug successfully a few times with the urwid interface
without any problems. However, recently I can't get reportbug to load
urwid or even gtk2 ui settings.

Tried to look at the bug reports posted on debian but no luck. Even
tried reconfiguring and using debug mode but can't figure it out.

Any ideas?

This is reportbug 4.1 with debian squeeze all packages up to date as of
this email.

Thanks,
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Re: xorg (fglrx, radeon, radeonhd, vesa) not working after upgrade

[Stefan Bellon]

thveillon.debian wrote:

> So maybe you have another problem on top of that,

Yes, of course, that's the reason for my posting.

> some leftovers from fglrx installation that don't go well with free
> drivers, like proprietary libGL maybe ?

Unlikely. In the past I have switched between fglrx, radeon and vesa
quite some times if one or the other did have some issue. And switching
to another one always worked without having to change more than the
driver line in the xorg.conf file.

It looks like the new Xorg has some very fundamental change which I am
not aware of.

So, if anybody has any comments wrt. to the configuration and log files
I presented in my initial posting, I'm very grateful for hearing them.

Greetings,
Stefan

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Re: xen, connecting to a domU

[Javier Barroso]

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:49 AM,   wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:27:18PM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:43 AM,   wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I finally got enough of  a grasp on xen to create a guest
>> > system.  But I think it didn't get created properly because
>> > I can't log in to it.
>> >
>> > I tried xen-shell expecting a prompt but only got what looks
>> > like an unfinished sequence of boot args:
>> >
>> >  begin excerpt 
>> > Activating swapfile swap...done.
>> > Setting up networking
>> > Configuring network interfaces...done.
>> > INIT: Entering runlevel: 2
>> > Starting enhanced syslogd: rsyslogd.
>> > Starting periodic command scheduler: crond.
>> > --- end excerpt 
>> I think this is a serial_device issue [1]. There is a bug with the
>> same sympthoms [2]
>>
>> Does this link helps ?
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#AdditionalnotefordomUonlennyusingxen-tools
>> [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502798
>
> Yes, thanks.  Uncommenting "serial_device = hvc0" in
> /etc/xen-tools/xen-tools.conf was enough to get me to a login prompt with
> "xm console .  But it still didn't allow an ssh login:
>
> --- begin transcript -
> ~# ssh 192.168.153.110
> ssh: connect to host 192.168.153.110 port 22: Connection refused
>  end transcript --
>
> I tried another run of xen-create-image with the udev role appended.  That
> didn't fix the ssh problem.  It appears that ssh is not installed:
>
> --- begin transcript -
> ~# xm console 1
> .
> .
> .
> Starting periodic command scheduler: crond.
>
> Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 mabelle hvc0
>
> mabelle login: root
> Linux mabelle 2.6.26-2-xen-686 #1 SMP Thu Mar 26 06:51:04 UTC 2009 i686
>
> The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
>
> Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
> permitted by applicable law.
> mabelle:~# dpkg -l | grep ssh
> mabelle:~#
>  end transcript --

Simply install ssh with aptitude or using xen-tools roles.

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Re: "Mutt, Exim4, Debian, Ubuntu and BCC. FAIL" (debian-news.net).

[David Jardine]

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 06:45:15PM -0600, s. keeling wrote:
> Hey.  Please see:
> 
>   
> http://www.debian-news.net/2009/04/29/mutt-exim4-debian-ubuntu-and-bcc-fail-fix-included/
> 
> Do any of you out there have any more details on this problem?  I've
> tried the fix suggested, and on my first test (no Bcc:) exim4 bounced
> it saying no recipient addresses found.  I've since reverted it until
> I can sort it out.  Exim4:
> 
>--
>A message that you sent using the -t command line option contained no
>addresses that were not also on the command line, and were therefore
>suppressed. This left no recipient addresses, and so no delivery could
>be attempted.
>--
> 
As far as I remember, /etc/Muttrc has always had the lines

# Exim does not remove Bcc headers
unset write_bcc

by default, which seems to suggest that mutt solves the problem rather 
than being one of the causes.

David

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Re: xorg (fglrx, radeon, radeonhd, vesa) not working after upgrade

[thveillon.debian]

Stefan Bellon wrote :
> thveillon.debian wrote:
>> you'll be sorry to hear that your card is now a "legacy" one
>> according to AMD/ATI. They dropped support for a bunch of card with
>> the 9.4 release.
> 
>> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.9&lang=English
> 
> No, if you have a close look at this page, you'll notice that a lot of
> cards are legacy, but not the X1400 one which my ThinkPad T60 has.

Yep, it's not named on the page, which I guess is a mistake, but you
will be redirected on the "legacy" page if you try to select a driver
from the AMD/ATI drivers selection page, so...

>> So I guess the Sid version is too new for you, you can install an
>> older fglrx (9.3) or stick with the free driver.
> 
> But nevertheless, even if my X1400 was legacy and not supported in
> fglrx anymore (which is not the case), then the main problem is that
> neither radeonhd, nor radeon, nor plain vesa seem to work right now.
> THIS is my problem.

So maybe you have another problem on top of that, some leftovers from
fglrx installation that don't go well with free drivers, like
proprietary libGL maybe ?

> Still being very grateful for hints.
> 
> Greetings,
> Stefan
> 

Good luck,

Tom


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Re: Admit that the typical Debian machine has tons of cruft(8)

[Chris Bannister]

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:26:21PM +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> Agreed, yet there's a techical question in there. What's your take? I
> usually run apt-get autoremove and orphaner, clear /var/log stuff and
> /var/cache/apt as well; yet i always do have the feeling that my /
> oughta be smaller. Is there an option to autoremove unused files?

You mean like those Italian and French manpages. :) Seriously though,
You mean like those Italian and French manpages. :{

localepurge to the rescue -- but do read the Description *before* using
it.

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than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other
possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 06:27:03PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 
> 
> > Peace.
> >
> 
> I wish for it every day, my friend. You have no idea.

Whereas in a previous post …

> I am serious, and I have access to automatic weapons.

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Re: xorg (fglrx, radeon, radeonhd, vesa) not working after upgrade

[Stefan Bellon]

thveillon.debian wrote:
> you'll be sorry to hear that your card is now a "legacy" one
> according to AMD/ATI. They dropped support for a bunch of card with
> the 9.4 release.

> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.9&lang=English

No, if you have a close look at this page, you'll notice that a lot of
cards are legacy, but not the X1400 one which my ThinkPad T60 has.

> So I guess the Sid version is too new for you, you can install an
> older fglrx (9.3) or stick with the free driver.

But nevertheless, even if my X1400 was legacy and not supported in
fglrx anymore (which is not the case), then the main problem is that
neither radeonhd, nor radeon, nor plain vesa seem to work right now.
THIS is my problem.

Still being very grateful for hints.

Greetings,
Stefan

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Re: execution of exim by user

[Chris Davies]

Peter Crawford  wrote:
> Is there a practical way for  exim to be executed by a user?
> Putting a user in the Debian-exim group doesn't allow this.

Exim can already be executed by a user for sending email (this is what
the MUAs such as "mailx" use to send a message):

/usr/lib/sendmail -v chris  # Yes this is exim
From: Chris
To: Chris
Subject: TEST

hello
.

What is it you want to achieve?
Chris


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Re: execution of exim by user

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu,30.Apr.09, 17:25:55, Peter Crawford wrote:
> 
> Is there a practical way for  exim to be executed by a user?
> Putting a user in the Debian-exim group doesn't allow this.

Please explain what you are trying to achieve. Do you want to run the 
daemon as a user or just send some mail?

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Nvidia driver and second screen

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,01.May.09, 16:19:01, Alex Samad wrote:
 
> the 173.x drivers are okay, but they stop at around 2.6.28 (or .26 I
> think)

,[ /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-source/changelog.Debian.gz ]
| nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-173xx (173.14.18-1) unstable; urgency=low
|
|   * New upstream.
|   * Patched for Debian 2.6.29 thanks to Lennart Sorensen 
| (closes: #523024, #504626, #523024)
|   * Remove suggesting of nvidia-settings (closes: #524107)
|   * Divert proper package in ia32 package (closes: #521690) 
|   * Remove video-2 Provides.
|
|  -- Randall Donald   Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:10:22 -0700
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Re: Question about get-selections

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu,30.Apr.09, 20:59:40, J.M.Roth wrote:
> I have done more experiments and have come up with these notes for now.
> 
> #BACKUP
> dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == "install"' > packagesNG_installed
> aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' > packagesNG_autoinstalled

I'm curious, why not replace these two with

aptitude -F '%p' search '~i!~M' > packagesNG_not_autoinstalled

Auto-installed packages are really not important (at least for me) and 
they might change from one version to the other of some package. Let 
apt/aptitude figure out what additional packages need to be installed, 
that's what they were created for.

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