Inquiry: run fsck in single user mode

2009-08-16 Thread hadi motamedi
Dear All
I have an Linux server that gets problemy from sudden power cut . I need to
run fsck in single user mode so I issued "#init 1" on the server . At the
server prompt , to serialize the fsck on the intended file system , I first
tried to unmount the intended file system and then issue the fsck (as the
following) :
#umount /dev/hda2
#fsck -s -a /dev/hda2
But the server returned "Device Busy" . So I checked its status under "fuser
-u /dev/hda2" but no process recorded for it . Can you please do me favor
and let me know how can I force it as unmount to be able to try for safe
fsck on it ?
Your reply is very welcome
Regards
H.Motamedi


Re: locale problem when setting up a chroot using debootstrap

2009-08-16 Thread andy baxter
Thanks a lot. I was trying to find something like that using dpkg -l and 
apt-cache search, but obviously missed it.


Cheers,

andy

Kevin Ross wrote:

-Original Message-
From: andy baxter [mailto:a...@earthsong.free-online.co.uk] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:28 PM

To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: locale problem when setting up a chroot using debootstrap

I'm setting up a chroot using debootstrap, eventually for use 
with user 
mode linux. I have got it mostly working ok, but when I install some 
packages (e.g. mc), there are a load of errors which seem to be to do 
with locales. Perl (I think) is saying something like check that the 
right locale is installed for the language code you have configured 
(en-GB). (Its hard at the moment to give the exact error 
message because 
it's on another machine and that filesystem has just died so 
I'll have 
to rebuild it before I can reproduce the error). Is there 
some package I 
need to install inside the chroot?


Thanks,

andy baxter



You need the "locales" package, which may not be automatically installed by
debootstrap.  If it is installed, simply running "dpkg-reconfigure locales"
should be enough to make the messages go away.

Hope this helps!
-- Kevin


  



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RE: locale problem when setting up a chroot using debootstrap

2009-08-16 Thread Kevin Ross
> -Original Message-
> From: andy baxter [mailto:a...@earthsong.free-online.co.uk] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:28 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: locale problem when setting up a chroot using debootstrap
> 
> I'm setting up a chroot using debootstrap, eventually for use 
> with user 
> mode linux. I have got it mostly working ok, but when I install some 
> packages (e.g. mc), there are a load of errors which seem to be to do 
> with locales. Perl (I think) is saying something like check that the 
> right locale is installed for the language code you have configured 
> (en-GB). (Its hard at the moment to give the exact error 
> message because 
> it's on another machine and that filesystem has just died so 
> I'll have 
> to rebuild it before I can reproduce the error). Is there 
> some package I 
> need to install inside the chroot?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> andy baxter

You need the "locales" package, which may not be automatically installed by
debootstrap.  If it is installed, simply running "dpkg-reconfigure locales"
should be enough to make the messages go away.

Hope this helps!
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Error while building live cd by live-helper

2009-08-16 Thread Kousik Maiti
I want to build a live cd based on debian with custom set of package. I get
the following error:

#lh_build
P: Setting up cleanup function
P: Begin caching bootstrap stage...
P: Begin bootstrapping system...
P: If the following stage fails, the most likely cause of the problem is
with your mirror configuration or a caching proxy.
P: Running debootstrap (download-only)...
I: Retrieving Release
I: Retrieving Packages
I: Validating Packages
W: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2was
corrupt
I: Retrieving Packages
I: Validating Packages
W: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/binary-i386/Packages.gzwas
corrupt
I: Retrieving Packages
I: Resolving dependencies of required packages...
I: Resolving dependencies of base packages...
cp: cannot stat `chroot/var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb': No such file or
directory
P: Begin unmounting filesystems...

Can anybody help?

Thank in advanced.
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Inquiry: How to add the "netconf" utility to Linux server

2009-08-16 Thread hadi motamedi
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know how can I add the "netconf"
utility to my Linux server ?
Regards
H.Motamedi


Re: Inquiry :Linux server Ethernet port issue

2009-08-16 Thread hadi motamedi
Dear Ron
Thank you very much for your reply . As I am far from the site , I will
check for the your comments ASAP . In the mean time , can you please do me
favor and let me know how can I add the "netconf" utility to the server as
it is a good facility to check/modify the Ethernet driver kernel module ?
Your reply is very welcome
Regards
H.Motamedi



On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:

>  On 2009-08-16 06:43, hadi motamedi wrote:
>
>> Dear All
>> Please be informed that we have an Linux server that it recenty got a
>> problem on its Ethernet port . As its communications with the outside
>> world
>> is through its Ethernet port , we recently figured it out that it can no
>> longer being PING from the other clients' sides . We checked on the server
>> and we can see the network messages when enabling the "tcpdump" on it to
>> listen to the network . Please be informed that its Ethernet driver is as
>> "via-rhine" , as can be read from the "lsmod" output .Can you please do me
>> favor and let me know what is wrong on our Linux server that prevents the
>> other clients to have reply when PING it ?
>>
>
> Can the server ping the clients?
>
> Did you set an iptables rule that rejects ICMP packets?
>
> Did someone screw up the client's routing or DNS tables?
>
> What if you try pinging the server's IP address instead of it's name?
>
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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-16 Thread John Haggerty
I don't know if this helps but by default thunderbird will just copy them
not delete I have to manually delete emails from my account to sync with
what I already downloaded to my machine.

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Thu,13.Aug.09, 16:17:30, Girish Kulkarni wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm having an issue with Fetchmail and Gmail on my system (Lenny).  It
> > will help if someone could help understand what's going on.
> >
> > While downloading archived messages (around 20 thousand of them, 800
> > MB) from my Gmail account via POP3, Fetchmail stopped after fetching
> > 9985 messages.  It now keeps saying that there are "549 read messages"
> > on the server but clearly, there are many more.
>
> Did you check that or are you just assuming? I'm asking because from my
> experience gmail was *deleting* mails as soon as retrieved via POP3 (but
> not via IMAP).
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
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Re: Happy birthday Debian

2009-08-16 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:26:20 +1200
Chris Bannister  wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 03:34:35PM +0530, Mihira Fernando wrote:
> > Debian has hit sweet sixteen today!  :)
> > 
> > And, yes its already 16th of August in this part of the world..
> 
> Still a teenager! and already with a few descendants. :)
> 
And Debian's descendants have descendants.  Debian is a grandparent at
16!

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Re: How to force a package removal?

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-16 18:42, Florian Kulzer wrote:
[snip]


/var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm

Looking at the script you might be able to figure out what it is trying
to do; then you can search for a way to change your alternatives setup
to make that work or you can comment out the problematic commands. Using
"set -x" in the script (assuming it is a shell script) should also help
to see what it is trying to do. 


Thanks.  Setting the environment variable VARIANTS="" solved the 
problem.


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Re: How to force a package removal?

2009-08-16 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 14:50:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A couple of years ago, when there were some "issues" with the
> various Adobe Flash packages, I downloaded and installed
> adobe-flashplugin from Ubuntu.  It installed perfectly, and I've
> been happy with it ever since.
> 
> But now I want to replace it with the up-to-date flashplayer-mozilla
> from www.debian-multimedia.org.
> 
> However, I've hosed something, and can't figure out how to unhose it...
> 
> Currently, this is what is happening:
> 
> # dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq adobe-flashplugin
> dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
> (Reading database ... 182140 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing adobe-flashplugin ...
> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
> dpkg: error processing adobe-flashplugin (--remove):
>  subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
> postinst called with argument `abort-remove'
> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit
> status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  adobe-flashplugin

The first two errors seems to result from invocations of
update-alternatives in the pre-removal script of the package, so I would
start here:

/var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm

Looking at the script you might be able to figure out what it is trying
to do; then you can search for a way to change your alternatives setup
to make that work or you can comment out the problematic commands. Using
"set -x" in the script (assuming it is a shell script) should also help
to see what it is trying to do. 

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Re: Happy birthday Debian

2009-08-16 Thread David Fox
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Alice
Ferrazzi wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

> apt-get install debian-cake

The following packages are BROKEN:

debian-cake:

   dependency problems - debian-cake depends on debian-candles, but is
not installable


someone has to file a bug against libicing too

:)


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Re: sound volume went waaaay low

2009-08-16 Thread paragasu
I also have the same problem. Still looking for solutions..

On 8/17/09, Rick Pasotto  wrote:
> Had to reboot today (powerfailure) and now the sound volume is so low it
> can barely be heard. I keep current with testing so I'm sure many new
> updates took effect with the reboot (including the kernel, it's now
> 2.6.30).
>
> What would people suggest to make the sound hearable? All volume
> controls are set to max. Any particular program likely to have caused
> the change?
>
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Re: /sbin/reboot: symbolic link to `halt'

2009-08-16 Thread James Youngman
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2009-08-16 22:36 +0200, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
>> I noticed that /sbin/reboot is a symbolic link to /sbin/halt. How does
>> the system "know" the difference?
>
> The program notices how it is called and behaves accordingly.  Programs
> written in C can get information about their name in argv[0].

Well, the parent process sets argv[0], just like it sets argv[1] and
following.   The idea that argv[0] should be the name with which the
program was invoked is just a convention.

It's not a commonly broken convention, though.  Login shells are
started with '-' as the first character of argv[0].  The only other
example I can think of is that ldd used to call programs with argc==0
and argv[0]==NULL in order to get the dynamic linker to spit out the
list of shared libraries.  These days, this is done differrently and
argv[0] is no longer special on Linux from that point of view.  Not
sure when the changeover happened, it could be the a.out->ELF switch.

James.


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Re: skype, amd64, libc6-i386 and ia32-libs

2009-08-16 Thread Michael Ekstrand
Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:
> After returning from vacation I updated my testing, amd64 system.

> After that, skype was no longer working...
> I understand that this has something to do with bug
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535645
> At the present time, I there something I can do to run skype again?
> Skype does not play because it complains about libuuid.so missing and I
> guess it means the i386 libuuid1.so because libuuid1 (amd64) is already
> installed.

The current ia32-libs package in unstable includes libuuid1.so and thus
fixes the problem.  I have it installed on my mostly-testing system and
Skype can run.  So either update to the Sid version or wait until it
trickles to testing.

- Michael


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Re: Happy birthday Debian

2009-08-16 Thread Alice Ferrazzi
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David Fox wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Chris wrote:
> 
>> Same here... Now, where's the cake?!
> 
> It's only an apt-get install away... ;)
> 
>> --
> 
> 
> 

apt-get install debian-cake

happy birthday debian!!
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Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm

2009-08-16 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 16. 08. 2009 22:42:34 je Klistvud napisal(a):
> Dne, 16. 08. 2009 19:02:26 je Brian Marshall napisal(a):
> > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 06:35:20PM +0200, Klistvud wrote:
> > > Dne, 16. 08. 2009 16:41:43 je Ron Johnson napisal(a):
> > > > On 2009-08-16 09:30, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > > On 2009-08-16 03:20, Klistvud wrote:
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If it's of any help, according to Synaptic, these are the 
> > > > >> Flash-related packages I have installed:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> flashplayer-mozilla
> > > > >> libswfdec-0.6-90
> > > > >> swfdec-gnome
> > > > >> swfdec-mozilla
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, I'd either remove the swfdec packages, or
> > flashplayer-mozilla.
> > > 
> > > dpkg -S npviewer.bin yields:
> > > 
> > > nspluginwrapper: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin
> > 
> > I'm not sure why you have nspluginwrapper installed. Neither swfdec
> > nor
> > flashplugin-nonfree (Adobe's flash) depend on it on amd64.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Brian
> > 
> 
> Just for the heck of it, I tried to uninstall the swfdec packages, 
> and
> 
> Synaptic promptly warned me it would have to uninstall gnome as well. 
> So, for me, that was a no-go. Then, I uninstalled flashplayer-
> mozilla,
> 
> and immediately some www.miniclip.com games stopped working (8-Ball 
> Pool, to name one). I strongly suspect Miniclip games must have been 
> the reason I 
> installed it in the first place -- I have two kids who just *have* to 
> play Miniclip, as any parent will know ;)
> 
> Unfortunately, CPU-hogging is the price I must pay for that ... God, 
> how I *love* all that redundant proprietary software infesting the 
> Web!!!
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Well, what do you know... Following the above suggestions, I 
uninstalled flashplayer-mozilla, and since Miniclip stopped working, I 
googled a bit and found the "Debian" way of installing Flash Player -- 
namely, through backports, as opposed to installing it directly from 
the Adobe website. And now I've got my Miniclip working smoothly again 
-- only this time, there's no npviewer.bin to hog my CPU!!

Thanx, Ron and Brian, for the suggestions that got me thinking in the 
right direction!

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switching to proprietary ati radeon driver (was Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm)

2009-08-16 Thread Liviu Andronic
Hello,

On 8/16/09, Klistvud  wrote:
>  P.S. I've also noticed that the laptop runs hotter when the free
>  graphics driver is used, as opposed to the proprietary ATI one.
>
I also have an HP Dual core 2.1GHz, and it gets kinda to warm during
"idle" work (hovers around 65-67 C); my Debian testing is using the
default drivers for this. On Ubuntu, however, with the proprietary
drivers installed, temp will stay below 60 for idle usage. (All this
with "ondemand" cpufreq governor. With "performance" temp is steadily
75C, and the fan goes loud.)

I tried to switch Debian to use the fglrx driver following the steps
suggested on the wiki [1], but I get into trouble. I'm unable to
perform step 5,
# modprobe -r radeon drm

since I don't have the drivers loaded:
debian-liv:/home/liviu# lsmod | grep -i radeon
debian-liv:/home/liviu# lsmod | grep -i drm

Could anyone suggest how to determine the driver currently used by the system?
Thank you
Liviu

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary


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sound volume went waaaay low

2009-08-16 Thread Rick Pasotto
Had to reboot today (powerfailure) and now the sound volume is so low it
can barely be heard. I keep current with testing so I'm sure many new
updates took effect with the reboot (including the kernel, it's now
2.6.30).

What would people suggest to make the sound hearable? All volume
controls are set to max. Any particular program likely to have caused
the change?

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Re: Mutt [Was: Iceweasel 3.5]

2009-08-16 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:16:15 -0400
"S. Fishpaste"  wrote:

...

> I agree Ron, that T-Bird and to some extent Slypheed-Claws, are good
> examples of GUI e-mail clients that are probably best of breed. I left

And what, exactly, is wrong with plain Sylph? :/

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locale problem when setting up a chroot using debootstrap

2009-08-16 Thread andy baxter
I'm setting up a chroot using debootstrap, eventually for use with user 
mode linux. I have got it mostly working ok, but when I install some 
packages (e.g. mc), there are a load of errors which seem to be to do 
with locales. Perl (I think) is saying something like check that the 
right locale is installed for the language code you have configured 
(en-GB). (Its hard at the moment to give the exact error message because 
it's on another machine and that filesystem has just died so I'll have 
to rebuild it before I can reproduce the error). Is there some package I 
need to install inside the chroot?


Thanks,

andy baxter


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Re: migrate physical machine to virtual machine

2009-08-16 Thread Alex Samad
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 07:03:04AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:45:35PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> > I've got to move an old Linux OS to a virtual machine.  I'm using Debian
> > Lenny as a host.  The guest is Suse 9.2, but I'm hoping you guys might
> > have some advice for me.  It uses a 2.6 kernel.
> 
> What virtual machine, exactly?
> 
> > 
> > The physical machine had SCSI drives, and I have changed grub and fstab
> > to reflect virtualbox's hardware (hda, instead of sda).  I can boot into
> > single user mode and go about my business, but after a certain amount of
> > time it locks up hard.  It doesn't seem to matter what I do, even
> > running 'top' eventually gets it to lock up.

Virtual Box has a log facility which would record why the
guest machine has locked up, if its the host machine that has locked upt
- have you trid the magic sysrq combo ?


VB also allows for scsi controllers - but I believe the best bang for
buck is sata 

> > 
> > Is there anything I've missed as far as telling the kernel and OS about 
> > my new (virtualized) hardware?  I don't expect you guys to be Suse experts, 
> > obviously,
> > but maybe somebody here has had a similar experience w/ Debian.
> 
> Not a SUSE expert, but have you looked at /var/log/messages in the guest?
> 

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Re: Happy birthday Debian

2009-08-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 03:34:35PM +0530, Mihira Fernando wrote:
> Debian has hit sweet sixteen today!  :)
> 
> And, yes its already 16th of August in this part of the world..

Still a teenager! and already with a few descendants. :)

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Re: /sbin/reboot: symbolic link to `halt'

2009-08-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 05:22:22PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I noticed that /sbin/reboot is a symbolic link to /sbin/halt. How does
> > the system "know" the difference? 
> >   
> 
> By checking the name with which the program was called. In C it's
> available as the first element in the array of command-line arguments
> that the program receives; other languages have similar means.
> 
> There are several programs that behave like this, a look at /usr/bin
> will reveal others.

Mmmm, should have worked that one out. :( I was on the wrong track
thinking $0 was used by bash to find which program to pass the rest of
the arguments to.

Thanks Sven and Eduardo.

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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,13.Aug.09, 16:17:30, Girish Kulkarni wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm having an issue with Fetchmail and Gmail on my system (Lenny).  It
> will help if someone could help understand what's going on.
> 
> While downloading archived messages (around 20 thousand of them, 800
> MB) from my Gmail account via POP3, Fetchmail stopped after fetching
> 9985 messages.  It now keeps saying that there are "549 read messages"
> on the server but clearly, there are many more. 

Did you check that or are you just assuming? I'm asking because from my 
experience gmail was *deleting* mails as soon as retrieved via POP3 (but 
not via IMAP).

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Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm

2009-08-16 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 16. 08. 2009 19:02:26 je Brian Marshall napisal(a):
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 06:35:20PM +0200, Klistvud wrote:
> > Dne, 16. 08. 2009 16:41:43 je Ron Johnson napisal(a):
> > > On 2009-08-16 09:30, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > On 2009-08-16 03:20, Klistvud wrote:
> > > > [snip]
> > > >>
> > > >> If it's of any help, according to Synaptic, these are the 
> > > >> Flash-related packages I have installed:
> > > >>
> > > >> flashplayer-mozilla
> > > >> libswfdec-0.6-90
> > > >> swfdec-gnome
> > > >> swfdec-mozilla
> > > 
> > > BTW, I'd either remove the swfdec packages, or
> flashplayer-mozilla.
> > 
> > dpkg -S npviewer.bin yields:
> > 
> > nspluginwrapper: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin
> 
> I'm not sure why you have nspluginwrapper installed. Neither swfdec
> nor
> flashplugin-nonfree (Adobe's flash) depend on it on amd64.
> 
> -- 
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> 

Just for the heck of it, I tried to uninstall the swfdec packages, and 
Synaptic promptly warned me it would have to uninstall gnome as well. 
So, for me, that was a no-go. Then, I uninstalled flashplayer-mozilla, 
and immediately some www.miniclip.com games stopped working (8-Ball 
Pool, to name one). I strongly suspect Miniclip games must have been 
the reason I 
installed it in the first place -- I have two kids who just *have* to 
play Miniclip, as any parent will know ;)

Unfortunately, CPU-hogging is the price I must pay for that ... God, 
how I *love* all that redundant proprietary software infesting the 
Web!!!

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Re: What is the best setup to compute in the burning hot sun?

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-16 15:36, Chris Bannister wrote:

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:53:12PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2009-08-10 14:20, Mike Castle wrote:
[snip]

air every so often.  (Then again, with two cats, our laptops have more
problems inside.)
An electric cord, stripped wires, duct tape and short section of broom 
handle should "do the job"...


Ummm, are you proposing he should torture the poor animals?


Cats have never been, are not, and will never be "poor animals".

Anyway, I would *never* *propose* such an action...


 And what's
with the duct tape ... the mind boggles.


Quick way of attaching the cord to the broomstick.

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Re: /sbin/reboot: symbolic link to `halt'

2009-08-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-08-16 22:36 +0200, Chris Bannister wrote:

> I noticed that /sbin/reboot is a symbolic link to /sbin/halt. How does
> the system "know" the difference? 

The program notices how it is called and behaves accordingly.  Programs
written in C can get information about their name in argv[0].

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Re: /sbin/reboot: symbolic link to `halt'

2009-08-16 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Chris Bannister wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that /sbin/reboot is a symbolic link to /sbin/halt. How does
> the system "know" the difference? 
>   

By checking the name with which the program was called. In C it's
available as the first element in the array of command-line arguments
that the program receives; other languages have similar means.

There are several programs that behave like this, a look at /usr/bin
will reveal others.


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Re: Iceweasel 3.5

2009-08-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,12.Aug.09, 22:31:25, Tim Beauregard wrote:
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > Volatile is for software that fails to achieve its goal if it is not 
> > updated 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> the contents of this post would make a good FAQ.

http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#using

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Re: Iceweasel 3.5

2009-08-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 05:44:47PM -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote:
> Hello; First of all I'm not that familiar with a Linux GUI as I usually run
> GNU/Linux headless via CLI.
> 
> I've got Lenny running Xserver-Xorg and I've noticed that the default
> Iceweasel aka Firefox is an older version and I prefer to run the latest.
> 
> I have checked backports for stable and there doesn't appear to be a 3.5
> version, so I got Mozilla's version. Only problem it depends on XUL* which
> wasn't available via my sources list for Lenny.
> 
> So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ?

http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391

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Re: What is the best setup to compute in the burning hot sun?

2009-08-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:53:12PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-08-10 14:20, Mike Castle wrote:
> [snip]
>> air every so often.  (Then again, with two cats, our laptops have more
>> problems inside.)
>
> An electric cord, stripped wires, duct tape and short section of broom 
> handle should "do the job"...

Ummm, are you proposing he should torture the poor animals? And what's
with the duct tape ... the mind boggles.

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Re: how to silence speaker during reboot/halt

2009-08-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 03:21:36PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 2009-08-09 04:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>> On Sun,09.Aug.09, 05:32:55, Long Wind wrote:
 I use sarge
 When I reboot/halt, the speaker beeps
 Is there any way to config speaker not to beep?
>>>
>>> Does your system beep whenever you trigger a shutdown or halt? The  
>>> only way I know is to disable the pc speaker completely (is there a  
>>> more elegant one?).
>>
>> This is why Nuno Magalhaes pulled out the Asking Smart Questions link...
>>
>
> ..and said to himself: "pc speaker on the wall what is the best question  
> of them all..."

:) , exactly, how could the question be any clearer?

I'd suggest a google on ((beep | bell) AND (reboot | halt | shutdown)

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/sbin/reboot: symbolic link to `halt'

2009-08-16 Thread Chris Bannister
Hi,

I noticed that /sbin/reboot is a symbolic link to /sbin/halt. How does
the system "know" the difference? 


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Re: Happy birthday Debian

2009-08-16 Thread David Fox
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Chris wrote:

> Same here... Now, where's the cake?!

It's only an apt-get install away... ;)

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Re: Iceweasel 3.5

2009-08-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,12.Aug.09, 19:35:21, S. Fishpaste wrote:
 
> I used XFce back in the day, now it seems bloated and slow on this P3. I've
> also heard it has a nasty memory leak;

That has been fixed AFAICT. I also installed Xfce 4.4 on my mothers 
laptop (p...@1.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM) and it is quite ok.

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Re: inline JPGs

2009-08-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 16 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Folder -> Preffer HTML to Plain Text
>
> Except that this is a crime against humanity, besides being contrary
> to published debian-user netiquette.

right, except the majority of people that email me use HTML/Windowz products, 
and send inline JPGs, usually in HTML format... that's all they know.

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Re: inline JPGs- SOLVED!

2009-08-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 16 2009, Mihira Fernando wrote:
> Did you try :
> View -> Attachments -> Inline
>
ack, not a preference, but a VIEW menu.. no, I had it as smart.
set it to inline, and now I see the images!!!
thanks!

> Also :
> Folder -> Preffer HTML to Plain Text

already had that set.



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How to force a package removal?

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

Hi,

A couple of years ago, when there were some "issues" with the 
various Adobe Flash packages, I downloaded and installed 
adobe-flashplugin from Ubuntu.  It installed perfectly, and I've 
been happy with it ever since.


But now I want to replace it with the up-to-date flashplayer-mozilla 
from www.debian-multimedia.org.


However, I've hosed something, and can't figure out how to unhose it...

Currently, this is what is happening:

# dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq adobe-flashplugin
dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
 Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
 reinstall it before attempting a removal.
(Reading database ... 182140 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing adobe-flashplugin ...
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin.
dpkg: error processing adobe-flashplugin (--remove):
 subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
postinst called with argument `abort-remove'
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit 
status 1

Errors were encountered while processing:
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Re: where's my xorg.conf?

2009-08-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 01:49:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-08-16 11:35, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>> On 8/16/09, Ron Johnson  wrote:
>>>  In the Section/EndSection wrapper.  That's what I'd try.
>>>
>> Should such syntax avoid breaking anything? Inspired from here [1].
>>
>> Section "InputDevice"
>> Option  "SHMConfig" "true"
>> EndSection
>
> Can't hurt to try...
>
>> Thank you
>> Liviu
>> [1] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=492984
>>
>>
>

In an emergency: Kill gdm/kdm/xdm to stop any currently running X 
Windows session.

Run 

Xorg -configure 

as root.

This generates an new xorg.conf based on an X best guess as to your 
hardware.

The screen of output ends:

Your xorg.conf is /root/xorg.conf.new

To test the server, run 'X -config /root/xorg.conf.new'

[If you do run that command and you get the grey screen with an X shaped 
cursor, then the automatically generated configuration file is probably 
correct and can be copied to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ].

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Doubt about apt pinning

2009-08-16 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi all!

At the moment I'm using Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze in my workstation and
to doing tests on VoIP I'm needing to install the Twinkle package
specifically in its version of the stable branch. According to what I
was reading, this is possible to be done with pinning and I was reading
the man pages of apt_preferences, but not yet I know clearly how the the
priorities works, reason why I would like if somebody can help me to
understand how it works. 

For example, I was trying creating the /etc/apt/preferences file with
the following content:

Package: twinkle
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 900

Then, I verify the priorities:

# apt-cache policy twinkle
twinkle:
  Instalados: (ninguno)
  Candidato: 1:1.2-3
  Pin del paquete: 1:1.2-3
  Tabla de versión:
 1:1.4.2-2 900
500 http://debian.freesoftware.org testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1:1.2-3 900
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org stable/main Packages

According to man pages of apt_preferences, if it doesn't have defined a
"target release", to installed packages a priority of 100 is assigned
and to the rest is assigned 500. I think for that reason there is a
'500' associated to each reposity. Although the candidate is the package
for stable as I try that it is, is not clear to me why are associated
the priority 900 as much for testing as for stable.

Independent of this doubt, according to which I was testing, the package
of the stable branch are installed and it stays, that it is what I
wanted; that is to say, if I do upgrade, beyond which the package of
testing has a newer version, it isn't updated the installed one of the
stable branch. 

Continuing with my understanding of how the priorities works, I tried
adding in my sources.list the unstable repository and adding a block in
the preferences file:

Package: twinkle
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: twinkle
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 950

Here I pose a similar doubt to which I exposed above: why the value 950
appears associated to each version if I assigned in the preferences file
a priority of 900 to the version of stable branch and 950 to the version
of the unestable branch? 

Like additional data, I see that /var/lib/dpkg/status moved of place
with value 100. This suggests to me that this file has a listing of all
the installed packages and since those that are under this condition we
said that a priority of 100 is assigned to them, I imagine that this is
the form in which Debian says to us 'all the packages that are in this
file have priority of 100'. Bah, in fact, instead of the _last_
installed, would be the last ones that sometimes could be installed,
since later I did 'remove'.


Thanks in advance for your reply.

Regards,
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Re: Weird startup problem with 2.6.26-2-686 in lenny - EDD

2009-08-16 Thread Dexter Filmore
Am Sonntag, 16. August 2009 18:00:38 schrieb Thomas Hochstein:
> Dexter Filmore schrieb:
> > (And what's EDD? I had to put edd=off to the lenny kernel else they
> > borked one step later)
>
> "Enhanced Disk Drive"
>
> 

So.. sounds ancient. What about it, safely turn off anyway?


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Re: where's my xorg.conf?

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-16 11:35, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On 8/16/09, Ron Johnson  wrote:

 In the Section/EndSection wrapper.  That's what I'd try.


Should such syntax avoid breaking anything? Inspired from here [1].

Section "InputDevice"
Option  "SHMConfig" "true"
EndSection


Can't hurt to try...


Thank you
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Installing a Wireless Card

2009-08-16 Thread ray
I would like some help in completing the installation with a wireless pcmia card.I just installed 502 from CDs on a Dell laptop. I did not have the Belkin wireless pcmcia card (HSM model no. F5D7011. Chipset BCM4306/BCM2050) in place during the installation.  Now I would like to get the wireless card working.  After reading the installation guide and several help pages, it seems to be getting somewhere but not there yet.  The session is below.  I have added some comments as .  debian session:su -/sbin/modprobe b43     'there was no response/sbin/lspci -vnn|grep14e4    02:00.0 Ethernet controller ... gigabit ...04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corp BCM4306 ... [14e4:4320] (rev 3)/sbin/iwconfig  lo    no wireless extensions.eth0    no wireless extensions.wmaster    no wireless extensions.wlan0    IEEE802.11 ESSID:""...link quality:0    Signal level:0    Noise level:0Rx invalid nwid:0    Rx invalid crypt:0    Rx invalid frag:0Tx excessive retries:0    Invalid misc:0    Missed beacon:0/sbin/ifconfig wlan0    wlan0    Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr     BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1    /sbin/ifconfig up  up: error fetching interface information: Device not found/sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up  SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directoryI would appreciate all comments.Thank you,ray


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Re: where's my xorg.conf?

2009-08-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:47:56 +0100
Liviu Andronic  wrote:

Hello Liviu,

> I'm on a fresh Debian testing, and I do not seem to find the correct
> xorg.conf. The usual file is empty.

That's fine.  X.Org is pretty good at detecting what's needed.  However,
if there are things you specifically require (nVidia driver rather than
nv, for example) xorg.conf is still the place to specify them.

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Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm

2009-08-16 Thread Brian Marshall
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 06:35:20PM +0200, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 16. 08. 2009 16:41:43 je Ron Johnson napisal(a):
> > On 2009-08-16 09:30, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On 2009-08-16 03:20, Klistvud wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > >>
> > >> If it's of any help, according to Synaptic, these are the 
> > >> Flash-related packages I have installed:
> > >>
> > >> flashplayer-mozilla
> > >> libswfdec-0.6-90
> > >> swfdec-gnome
> > >> swfdec-mozilla
> > 
> > BTW, I'd either remove the swfdec packages, or flashplayer-mozilla.
> 
> dpkg -S npviewer.bin yields:
> 
> nspluginwrapper: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin

I'm not sure why you have nspluginwrapper installed. Neither swfdec nor
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Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-16 11:35, Klistvud wrote:

Dne, 16. 08. 2009 16:41:43 je Ron Johnson napisal(a):

On 2009-08-16 09:30, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2009-08-16 03:20, Klistvud wrote:
[snip]
If it's of any help, according to Synaptic, these are the 
Flash-related packages I have installed:


flashplayer-mozilla
libswfdec-0.6-90
swfdec-gnome
swfdec-mozilla

BTW, I'd either remove the swfdec packages, or flashplayer-mozilla.



dpkg -S npviewer.bin yields:

nspluginwrapper: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin


Ah, you're running x86_64...

What exactly do you mean by "I'd either remove the swfdec packages, or 
flashplayer-mozilla"? Could you kindly elaborate on that? Do you think 
they might be in some sort of conflict or what?


Yes.  Two libraries trying to accomplish the same task.

 What 
would be achieved by removing them?


Since your arch is amd64, I'd remove flashplayer-mozilla and see if 
swfdec is up to the task of viewing the Flash you need to see.


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Re: Weird startup problem with 2.6.26-2-686 in lenny

2009-08-16 Thread Thomas Hochstein
Dexter Filmore schrieb:

> (And what's EDD? I had to put edd=off to the lenny kernel else they borked 
> one 
> step later)

"Enhanced Disk Drive"




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Re: where's my xorg.conf?

2009-08-16 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 8/16/09, Ron Johnson  wrote:
>  In the Section/EndSection wrapper.  That's what I'd try.
>
Should such syntax avoid breaking anything? Inspired from here [1].

Section "InputDevice"
Option  "SHMConfig" "true"
EndSection

Thank you
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Re: where's my xorg.conf?

2009-08-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-08-16 17:59 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 2009-08-16 10:47, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I'm on a fresh Debian testing, and I do not seem to find the correct
>> xorg.conf. The usual file is empty.
>> debian-liv:/home/liviu# ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf -l
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-08-02 18:33 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>>
>> Please advise. Thank you
>
> That appears to be normal in newer versions of x.org.

It is normal in the sid version, but for the version in testing it is a
bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535624.

The solution is to upgrade xserver-xorg to version 1:7.3+20, available
in lenny-proposed-updates, and to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
afterwards.

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Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm

2009-08-16 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 16. 08. 2009 16:41:43 je Ron Johnson napisal(a):
> On 2009-08-16 09:30, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 2009-08-16 03:20, Klistvud wrote:
> > [snip]
> >>
> >> If it's of any help, according to Synaptic, these are the 
> >> Flash-related packages I have installed:
> >>
> >> flashplayer-mozilla
> >> libswfdec-0.6-90
> >> swfdec-gnome
> >> swfdec-mozilla
> 
> BTW, I'd either remove the swfdec packages, or flashplayer-mozilla.
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dpkg -S npviewer.bin yields:

nspluginwrapper: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin

What exactly do you mean by "I'd either remove the swfdec packages, or 
flashplayer-mozilla"? Could you kindly elaborate on that? Do you think 
they might be in some sort of conflict or what? What 
would be achieved by removing them?

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Re: where's my xorg.conf?

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-16 11:18, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On 8/16/09, Ron Johnson  wrote:

 That appears to be normal in newer versions of x.org.


But then, how do I add the option ` SHMConfig' 'true' '? Do I pluck it
to the empty file?


In the Section/EndSection wrapper.  That's what I'd try.

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Re: where's my xorg.conf?

2009-08-16 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 8/16/09, Ron Johnson  wrote:
>  That appears to be normal in newer versions of x.org.
>
But then, how do I add the option ` SHMConfig' 'true' '? Do I pluck it
to the empty file?
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Re: where's my xorg.conf?

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-16 10:47, Liviu Andronic wrote:

Dear all,
I'm on a fresh Debian testing, and I do not seem to find the correct
xorg.conf. The usual file is empty.
debian-liv:/home/liviu# ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf -l
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-08-02 18:33 /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Please advise. Thank you


That appears to be normal in newer versions of x.org.

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where's my xorg.conf?

2009-08-16 Thread Liviu Andronic
Dear all,
I'm on a fresh Debian testing, and I do not seem to find the correct
xorg.conf. The usual file is empty.
debian-liv:/home/liviu# ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf -l
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-08-02 18:33 /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Please advise. Thank you
Liviu


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Re: Mozilla rebranding

2009-08-16 Thread Chris
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:13:32 -0500
Chris  wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> I'm unsure if this was a topic - Could someone explain or point me to
> a resource that enlightens me why the Mozilla re-branding.
> 
> For now, I have opted not to use IceW and IceOwl in lieu of the actual
> Linux binaries that are (newer and) offered at Mozilla.
> 

Gah! Got the answer., Sorry folks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_by_the_Debian_project


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Mozilla rebranding

2009-08-16 Thread Chris
Greetings,

I'm unsure if this was a topic - Could someone explain or point me to a
resource that enlightens me why the Mozilla re-branding.

For now, I have opted not to use IceW and IceOwl in lieu of the actual
Linux binaries that are (newer and) offered at Mozilla.

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Re: inline JPGs

2009-08-16 Thread Mihira Fernando
On Sunday 16 August 2009 08:22:57 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-08-16 05:15, Mihira Fernando wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > Also :
> > Folder -> Preffer HTML to Plain Text
>
> Except that this is a crime against humanity, besides being contrary
> to published debian-user netiquette.

In that case, inline JPGs are a crime against humanity as well..


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Re: Happy birthday Debian

2009-08-16 Thread Chris
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:08:27 +0930
Dale  wrote:

> Happy Birthday Debian :-)
> 
> I have only been using Debian a couple of years, but it a great OS to
> be using :-)
> 
> Cheers
> Dale
> 
> 2009/8/16 Mihira Fernando :
> > Debian has hit sweet sixteen today!  :)
> >
> > And, yes its already 16th of August in this part of the world..
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Same here... Now, where's the cake?!

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Re: Inquiry :Linux server Ethernet port issue

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-16 06:43, hadi motamedi wrote:

Dear All
Please be informed that we have an Linux server that it recenty got a
problem on its Ethernet port . As its communications with the outside world
is through its Ethernet port , we recently figured it out that it can no
longer being PING from the other clients' sides . We checked on the server
and we can see the network messages when enabling the "tcpdump" on it to
listen to the network . Please be informed that its Ethernet driver is as
"via-rhine" , as can be read from the "lsmod" output .Can you please do me
favor and let me know what is wrong on our Linux server that prevents the
other clients to have reply when PING it ?


Can the server ping the clients?

Did you set an iptables rule that rejects ICMP packets?

Did someone screw up the client's routing or DNS tables?

What if you try pinging the server's IP address instead of it's name?

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Re: inline JPGs

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-16 05:15, Mihira Fernando wrote:
[snip]


Also :
Folder -> Preffer HTML to Plain Text


Except that this is a crime against humanity, besides being contrary 
to published debian-user netiquette.


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Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-16 09:30, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2009-08-16 03:20, Klistvud wrote:
[snip]


If it's of any help, according to Synaptic, these are the 
Flash-related packages I have installed:


flashplayer-mozilla
libswfdec-0.6-90
swfdec-gnome
swfdec-mozilla


BTW, I'd either remove the swfdec packages, or flashplayer-mozilla.

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Weird startup problem with 2.6.26-2-686 in lenny

2009-08-16 Thread Dexter Filmore
Just upgraded my server from etch to lenny, all fine so far.
But: 2.6.26-2-686 bootet ok about 10 times, then all of a sudden the system 
stops after this point:

http://www.vaultofsages.de/~dexterf/pub/boot.jpg

Funny thing is: 2.6.26-1-686 still works fine.

I even purges the -2 package and reinstalled it, regenerated the initrd.. no 
go.
Help?

(And what's EDD? I had to put edd=off to the lenny kernel else they borked one 
step later)

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Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-16 03:20, Klistvud wrote:
[snip]


If it's of any help, according to Synaptic, these are the Flash-related 
packages I have installed:


flashplayer-mozilla
libswfdec-0.6-90
swfdec-gnome
swfdec-mozilla



Try this:

dpkg -S npviewer.bin

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Re: WRT54G WAN access failure -- Solved!

2009-08-16 Thread Joel Roth
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 03:53:11AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-08-09 02:41, Joel Roth wrote:
>> Ron Johnson  wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-08-07 21:47, Joel Roth wrote:
 I'd like to ask for help setting up a used router for my
 brother.

 First of all, I get usual internet services without the
 router:

 Computer ---> DSL modem

 I have problems with basic configuration: 

 Computer ---> Router ---> DSL modem

 The panel LEDs display normally, and the router gets a pingable WAN 
 address from the DSL modem.
>>> By this, do you mean a routeable IP address?
>>
>> Wrong terminology I think. 
>>
>> Yes, I mean something like 192.168.1.46
>
> That's the internal, unroutable address.
>
> The WRT54G should have both a routeable address (provided by your ISP) 
> *and* an unrouteable 192.168.x.y address which it provides itself.
>
 However

 ping google.com returns 'unknown host'

 ping 74.125.45.100 (google.com) returns 'destination unreachable'
>>> What if you ping 74.125.45.100?
>>
>> destination unreachable
>>
>> (That's what I meant above.)
>
> Your routing tables or DNS aren't configured properly.

Coming back to the problem after a few days away I found
the issues:

1) the router default address was 192.168.1.1, the same as the ADSL modem

Solution: set router to 192.168.0.1 

2) the router's default gateway needed to be set manually,
was not picked up automatically by DHCP from the DSL modem.

Solution set router gateway to 192.168.1.1

Thanks to all for your advice. I appreciate your help.

Joel


 Resetting the router to factory defaults doesn't help.

 Any ideas for what to try? Thanks.
>>> Can your PC see the router itself?  My WRT54GL has a web interface,  
>>> and one of the pages shows the external IP address, DNS addresses, 
>>> etc.
>>
>> Yes, I can see the router's web interface
>
> Well, that's a start!
>
> So, tell us what's on the router status page...  It should give you  
> information like this:
> Firmware Version: v4.zz.yy, Aug. X, 200Y
> Current Time: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:47:47
> MAC Address:  00:1E:AA:BB:CC:DD
> Router Name:  WRT54GL
> Host Name:
> Domain Name:  no.cox.net  
> Login Type:   Automatic Configuration - DHCP  
> IP Address:   70.xxx.yyy.zzz  
> Subnet Mask:  255.255.248.0   
> Default Gateway:  70.aaa.bbb.ccc  
> DNS 1:68.105.28.12
> DNS 2:68.105.29.12
> DNS 3:68.105.28.11
> MTU:  1500
>
>>> Also, how is your PC configured?  For DHCP, static, etc?
>>
>> for DHCP
>
> Then the PC gets it's IP address from the WRT54G.
>
> Also, what does the PC think it's DNS servers are?
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vsftpd only allow access for a group

2009-08-16 Thread Soren Orel
How can I do that? I mean to only allow FTP access for a certain group?
Like when doing SFTP with openssh-server with "Subsystem sftp internal-sftp"
and using the "AllowGroups GROUPNAME", "Match Group GROUPNAME", etc in
"/etc/ssh/sshd_config"?
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Re: Happy birthday Debian

2009-08-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-08-16 15:34:35, schrieb Mihira Fernando:
> Debian has hit sweet sixteen today!  :)
> 
> And, yes its already 16th of August in this part of the world..

And I have now 10 1/2 years Debian GNU/Linux usage:  starting with Slink
Being 8 years Debian GNU/Linux Consultant...  Time flys!

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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Inquiry :Linux server Ethernet port issue

2009-08-16 Thread hadi motamedi
Dear All
Please be informed that we have an Linux server that it recenty got a
problem on its Ethernet port . As its communications with the outside world
is through its Ethernet port , we recently figured it out that it can no
longer being PING from the other clients' sides . We checked on the server
and we can see the network messages when enabling the "tcpdump" on it to
listen to the network . Please be informed that its Ethernet driver is as
"via-rhine" , as can be read from the "lsmod" output .Can you please do me
favor and let me know what is wrong on our Linux server that prevents the
other clients to have reply when PING it ?
Regards
H.Motamedi


Re: Happy birthday Debian

2009-08-16 Thread Dale
Happy Birthday Debian :-)

I have only been using Debian a couple of years, but it a great OS to
be using :-)

Cheers
Dale

2009/8/16 Mihira Fernando :
> Debian has hit sweet sixteen today!  :)
>
> And, yes its already 16th of August in this part of the world..
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Re: Happy birthday Debian

2009-08-16 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Mihira Fernando  [2009 Aug 16 05:07 -0500]:
> Debian has hit sweet sixteen today!  :)
> 
> And, yes its already 16th of August in this part of the world..

Happy Birthday indeed, Debian.

In another month or so I'll mark ten years with Debian.  I recall
downloading 8 floppy images and then doing a net install.  Over dialup!

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Re: http://packages.qa.debian.org/ down?

2009-08-16 Thread Magnus Pedersen
Sven Joachim wrote:

> On 2009-08-16 10:16 +0200, Magnus Pedersen wrote:
> 
>> Have I missed something? I'm not able to connect to
>> http://packages.qa.debian.org/ ?
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-
announce/2009/08/msg0.html
> 
> Note that packages.qa.debian.org is the same host as 
master.debian.org,
> according to nslookup.
> 
> Sven
Ok, that explains it.

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Re: inline JPGs

2009-08-16 Thread Mihira Fernando
On Saturday 15 August 2009 03:46:24 pm Paul Cartwright wrote:
> My wife & I both use kmail on our Debian Lenny system. When I get a jpg,
> all I see is the filename.jpg at the bottom of the page & as attachments in
> the preview window. My wife sees the photo on her screen in the preview
> window. I've looked all over the settings & can't figure out what to
> change. thanks,

Did you try :
View -> Attachments -> Inline 

Also :
Folder -> Preffer HTML to Plain Text


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Happy birthday Debian

2009-08-16 Thread Mihira Fernando
Debian has hit sweet sixteen today!  :)

And, yes its already 16th of August in this part of the world..


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Re: Is there any security risk using p2p client ?

2009-08-16 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:05:08PM +0300, ??  wrote:
> Is that so? The torrent file you download from debian (= you trust
> that), doesn't contain the checksum?

If you're verifying the checksum, then you implicitly don't trust the
file 100%.  And you shouldn't have 100% trust in any file obtained over
the public internet unless solid end-to-end encryption is in place to
secure the transfer against man-in-the-middle attacks, DNS-based attacks
(which could result in you downloading from a different source than you
think you're getting it from), etc.  This goes double for any sort of
p2p download, since the whole point of p2p downloads is that you're
getting small pieces of the file from many different sources, meaning
that any one of those sources could potentially have maliciously altered
the pieces they're giving you.

If you don't trust the file 100%, then why would you trust the checksum
it contains?  A maliciously-altered file would almost certainly also
contain a new checksum which matches the altered version of the file.

Always obtain your checksums via an alternate (cryptographically-
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Re: http://packages.qa.debian.org/ down?

2009-08-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-08-16 10:16 +0200, Magnus Pedersen wrote:

> Have I missed something? I'm not able to connect to 
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/ ?

http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2009/08/msg0.html

Note that packages.qa.debian.org is the same host as master.debian.org,
according to nslookup.

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Re: Is there any security risk using p2p client ?

2009-08-16 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 02:30:11PM -0600, John Haggerty wrote:
>   
>> Just use intelligence based on the fact that you are downloading random
>> programs. 
>> 
>
> E.g.: if you download Debian CDs, it might be a good idea to verify
> their checksums from Debian sites.
>
>   


Is that so? The torrent file you download from debian (= you trust
that), doesn't contain the checksum?



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Re: http://packages.qa.debian.org/ down?

2009-08-16 Thread Peter Jordan
Magnus Pedersen, Sun Aug 16 2009 10:16:14 GMT+0200 (CEST) :
> Have I missed something? I'm not able to connect to 
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/ ?
> /Magnus
> 
> 

It seems to be down.

Peter


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Re: Performance of encrypted filesystem

2009-08-16 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
Teemu Likonen wrote:
> On 2009-08-12 09:38 (+0300), Teemu Likonen wrote:
>
>   
>> Do you (or anybody) have numbers or educated guesses on how much it
>> slows down the disk operation or how it will affect CPU load?
>> 
>
> I found such an article and it seems to indicate that LUKS system has no
> much performance penalty on disk IO.
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/locking-linux-creating-a-cryptobook,1303.html
>
>
>   

This has been discussed numerous times on this list. Most people using
it (me also) report that there is no observed performance impact...

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http://packages.qa.debian.org/ down?

2009-08-16 Thread Magnus Pedersen
Have I missed something? I'm not able to connect to 
http://packages.qa.debian.org/ ?
/Magnus


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Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm

2009-08-16 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 16. 08. 2009 04:38:45 je go...@dobosevic.com napisal(a):
> Klistvud wrote:
> >> Especially when the nspviewer.bin
> >> process 
> >> is running,
> > 
> > That's npviewer.bin, of course. My apologies, but it's 2 AM here in 
> > Ljubljana ;)
> > 
> Hi Ljubljana,
> Zagreb here! Nice to met neighbor :-)
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Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm

2009-08-16 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 16. 08. 2009 02:08:50 je Ron Johnson napisal(a):
> On 2009-08-15 19:02, Klistvud wrote:
> >> Especially when the nspviewer.bin
> >> process 
> >> is running,
> > 
> > That's npviewer.bin, of course. My apologies, but it's 2 AM here in 
> > Ljubljana ;)
> 
> Hmmm, why don't I have npviewer.bin, even though I have Adobe's 
> Flash player?
> 
> How did you install the Flash player?
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Wouldn't know. I thought it got installed with the default Iceweasel 
install. Or with the installation of the "dirty" codecs...?

If it's of any help, according to Synaptic, these are the Flash-related 
packages I have installed:

flashplayer-mozilla
libswfdec-0.6-90
swfdec-gnome
swfdec-mozilla

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Re: installing a realtek 8139 lan card on 2.4.18

2009-08-16 Thread steef

Sandip Sandip wrote:




*From:* Neal Hogan 
*To:* Sandip Sandip 
*Cc:* debian-user@lists.debian.org
*Sent:* Thursday, 13 August, 2009 7:41:02 PM
*Subject:* Re: installing a realtek 8139 lan card on 2.4.18

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Sandip Sandip> wrote:
> I am trying to install a realtek 8139 lan card on an old debian 
machine -

> 2.4.18-bf2.4
>
> The card is properly installed - as in when I connect the lan cable 
it the

> lights on the card start blinking.
>
> However, I am unable to access internet. Do I need to install 
drivers and

> how do I do that?

What else have you done? Did you just plug it in?


I also read up the network howto and tried things like putting eth0 in 
/etc/network/interfaces, trying eth0 up, etc.


No use - till now.


What does you system think of the card (eg, what is the output of
lspci | grep Realtek of dmesg)? What's the output of ifconfig -a?


lspci shows 00:0b.0 Ethernet Controller: MYSON Technologies Inc: 
Unknown device 0803 (dont know from where has this MYSON come in)


grep of dmesg of realtek/ real/ myson/ 0803/ 8139 shows nothing!

ifconfig -a shows eth0 Link encap Ethernet HWAaddr 00:A1:B0:etc.
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU etc.
Some RX TX data - all zeroes
Interrupt:5 Base address:0xf

*Only* ifconfig shows lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0..1 Mask 255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric: 1

modconf shows has option to install a module for realtek 8139, though 
there are other network cards



How is your IP assigned? Do you have an ISP provided router or is this
machine on the inside of a personal network?


It is a cable internet connection. On my Win XP laptop, I need to 
connect the cable in my lan card port and I can access internet. The 
IP address, DNS Server address is auto-assigned - DHCP.


What is in /etc/network/interfaces?

/etc/network/interfaces shows:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback



There are a bunch of debian networking tutorials. Google lead me to
the following (among other things):
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/An_introduction_to_Debian_networking_setup

http://www.aboutdebian.com./

http://wiki.debian.org/Network [+]


Sure - tried these and a couple of others. But most *assume* that the 
network card is installed, recognized properly. In my case, I think 
that is the missing link - but I may be wrong.



Hope I am able to resolve it!

Sandip


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...AFAICT the bf24-kernel was used with woody, and, if i remember 
well, had during installation of the os, to choose out of a list to 
install the rtl-chip by hand. so,if i am right, go to the realtek 
website, try to find the driver and install it by and.


regards,

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RE: HP DL180 G6 with Debian Lenny

2009-08-16 Thread Richard Pijnenburg
Hi,

The G5 serie indeed uses the broadcom network card.
The BNX2 driver I already build back in.

The G6 serie usually uses the E1000 driver.
The strange thing is that I see it in the list of available drivers but it's
not being used.

Knoppix live cd, debian testing live cd and a rescue system I use, all say
that it's an Intel Gigabit card which uses the e1000 driver.
With all these live cd's the network card is detected and I can use it.
Also Ubuntu 9.04 installer recognizes the network card ( 8.04 & 8.10 don't )


Regards,

Richard Pijnenburg


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Alex Samad [mailto:a...@samad.com.au] 
Verzonden: zondag 16 augustus 2009 8:38
Aan: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Onderwerp: Re: HP DL180 G6 with Debian Lenny

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 09:42:56PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> [ Please try to turn off the HTML part. ]
> 
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 15:14:29 +0200, Richard Pijnenburg wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm trying to install Debian Lenny on a HP DL180 G6 server.
> > 
> > This server seems to have an Intel network card which needs the 
> > e1000 driver.
> > 
> > But for some reason it's not recognized because using the 
> > netinstaller it asks what kind of network card is in the server.

This might be a broadcom network card (usually used in HP DL), some time
around 2.6.28 ( i think) the firmware got removed from the install this
could be your problem 

not sure if the below install help with that :)

> > 
> > I see that the e1000 driver is in the list but it does nothing with it.
> > 
> > Could it be that the bundled e1000 driver in the netinstaller is to old?
> 
> It would help to know the PCI vendor and device IDs of the network card.
> Does the installer let you switch to a terminal with CTRL + ALT + F2 
> (or another function key)? In that case you can try to run "lspci -nn" 
> and find the line(s) of the ethernet controller(s). The relevant 
> information will be (almost) at the end of the line(s); it consists of 
> two four-digit hexadecimal numbers that are separated by a colon and 
> enclosed in square brackets (an example: "[10ec:8139]").
> 
> You could also try one of Kenshi Muto's customized Lenny installer 
> images, they have newer kernels: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
> 

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[SOLVED] gthumb, photo import error

2009-08-16 Thread Dale
Hi All,

I have fixed the problem accessing my camera with gthumb by adding

ATTRS{idVendor}=="04cb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="01c7", MODE="0664", GROUP="plugdev"

to /etc/udev/rules.d/025_libgphoto2.rules

and then restarting udev and plugging the camera into the laptop

Regards
Dale


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From: Dale 
Date: 2009/8/16
Subject: gthumb, photo import error
To: Debian Users 


Hi All,

I am currently setting up a new laptop for myself. The laptop is a
Acer Aspire Timeline 4810T running Debian Lenny with the
'2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 5 11:07:47 UTC 2009 x86_64
GNU/Linux' kernel from backports.org.

My digital camera is a Fuji Film FinePix A900

# tail -f /var/log/messages
..
Aug 16 14:26:34 laptop kernel: [69770.772081] usb 8-3: new high speed
USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
Aug 16 14:26:34 laptop kernel: [69770.906353] usb 8-3: New USB device
found, idVendor=04cb, idProduct=01c7
Aug 16 14:26:34 laptop kernel: [69770.906362] usb 8-3: New USB device
strings: Mfr=0, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Aug 16 14:26:34 laptop kernel: [69770.906368] usb 8-3: Product: USB PTP Camera
Aug 16 14:26:34 laptop kernel: [69770.906372] usb 8-3: SerialNumber: 
Aug 16 14:26:34 laptop kernel: [69770.906550] usb 8-3: configuration
#1 chosen from 1 choice
..

Above is the output of my laptop being connected to the laptop.

This is the error that I get when trying to import photos from the
camera with gthumbs

An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB
device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make
sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680,
spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the
device.


Does anyone know how I can get my camera to work under Lenny please

Dale

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Re: Is there any security risk using p2p client ?

2009-08-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 02:30:11PM -0600, John Haggerty wrote:
> Just use intelligence based on the fact that you are downloading random
> programs. 

E.g.: if you download Debian CDs, it might be a good idea to verify
their checksums from Debian sites.

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Re: migrate physical machine to virtual machine

2009-08-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:45:35PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> I've got to move an old Linux OS to a virtual machine.  I'm using Debian
> Lenny as a host.  The guest is Suse 9.2, but I'm hoping you guys might
> have some advice for me.  It uses a 2.6 kernel.

What virtual machine, exactly?

> 
> The physical machine had SCSI drives, and I have changed grub and fstab
> to reflect virtualbox's hardware (hda, instead of sda).  I can boot into
> single user mode and go about my business, but after a certain amount of
> time it locks up hard.  It doesn't seem to matter what I do, even
> running 'top' eventually gets it to lock up.
> 
> Is there anything I've missed as far as telling the kernel and OS about 
> my new (virtualized) hardware?  I don't expect you guys to be Suse experts, 
> obviously,
> but maybe somebody here has had a similar experience w/ Debian.

Not a SUSE expert, but have you looked at /var/log/messages in the guest?

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